40k-lore-chat

[near wasp]

I mean if a keymind managed to capture some necrons maybe, but necrons would be very good at fighting the flood due to there weaponery

[spice ridge]

Yeah Necron weaponry would be very troublesome

[spare osprey]

Only thing I can really think of standing an actual chance are chaos daemons

[spice ridge]

But if the Flood rolls up with actually working plasma weaponry and dark age tech level stuff

[spare osprey]

No true form after all

[crisp heath]

They'd definitely inevitably breach it, but till then it'd be the only relative safe pocket

[spice ridge]

Well daemons would probably find it increasingly difficult to manifest

Though the Flood couldn't infect them, most likely

[near wasp]

Flood would just need to get a solitare to figure out the webway

[spice ridge]

Since the 'Nids can't eat daemons either

But they can evolve anti-daemon stuff

So most likely the Flood is figuring out how to be anti-daemon as well

Whoops, meant can a-la Hive Fleet Kronos

Er, splinter fleet?

[crisp heath]

If the flood existed in 40k, I bet it would be tied to the warp actually, unlike the nids

[spice ridge]

If the Flood were in 40k they'd just be the Old Ones but turbo fucked up and utterly insane

And true masters of evolution

Point is 40k galaxy's only hope is to try and snuff out the Flood before it reaches any point of no return

If it does that, they win

If not, Flood wins

[near wasp]

Theres psychic powers and phenomenon in halo right

[crisp heath]

Nids are super tied to the warp, they use it differently

They're a psyker army

[spice ridge]

If you count Neural Physics as psychic powers, sure

[jade holly]

So those vox videos on YouTube

What the Hell are they teasing

[crisp heath]

Because it has far closer to a humane consciousness, as weird as it sounds, than the nids. The nids are theorized to come from a whole other Galaxy they are so alien and different. So idk, maybe they would have potential in the warp

[spice ridge]

More missions/DLC maybe?

[jade holly]

Yeah but what specifically

[spice ridge]

Beats me tbh

Maybe the second hive city

[jade holly]

What is that creature that “killed” Wyrmwood

that said your soul is mine

[spice ridge]

I think I've heard plaguebearer thrown around?

[crisp heath]

I don't think it's a tease anymore. I used to think the same, now I just think it's a way for them to carry some sort of narrative in the story

[near wasp]

Sounded like a true demon possibly a plaugebearer but if fatshark wanted to get jiggy with it could be a daemon prince

[crisp heath]

@jade holly I want to say it's moebian 6th leader, or whoever he knelt to in that one cutscene

[jade holly]

Hell if we’re being spicy watch it be a PM or a DG

[near wasp]

Your soul is mine is more a daemon thing

Since you know they eat them

[jade holly]

Yeah

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/ntuni-cat-chew-crunch-funny-gif-23922784

[crisp heath]

Right but we don't know who Moe 6 bowed to in that cutscene

[outer wave]

Honestly I interpreted that as two entities: one that actually killed Wyrmwood, and one thats actually talking and is the de facto leader of Admonition.

[spice ridge]

Does Chaos time travel all that often? I know Ahriman could but even then it's not a surefire way and it still depends on where the Flood starts. Like yeah Tzeentch rightfully seeing it as a massive threat is entirely justified but depending on the world it'd be tremendously difficult to rush it down to kill it right away.

As for a big galactic alliance, might be too late by the time they realize just how bad the Flood is when it's wielding Dark Age of Technology levels of stuff once it reverse engineers the Imperium's tech and figures out how to actually make it work/build more of it.

[jade holly]

Wait Be’lakor’s in 40k too?

[winter vessel]

He went all "the snack that smiles back! Soul Fish". but honestly im not even sure who the big bad is in the transmission

[outer wave]

There's a whole ass cabal dedicated to time magics

[spice ridge]

Daemon Prince is well beyond our paygrade as rejects

[crisp heath]

This could be it too

[jade holly]

I mean we’re killing Beasts of Nurgle and Daemonhosts

[crisp heath]

I really think it's moe 6

[spice ridge]

That'd be like a Great Unclean One showing up and expecting this squad of goobers to kill it

[crisp heath]

People that say this... forget it's a game...

[near wasp]

Not necessarily, princes can vary wildly in power

[spice ridge]

Beasts of Nurgle, Daemonhosts and Plague Ogryns are pre strong but at least kinda believable

[jade holly]

If this were entirely lore accurate we’d all be dead after the first Beast of Nurgle due to corruption and all that

And be forced to be executed

[crisp heath]

This^

[spice ridge]

And yes I get it's a game but people would prolly find it hard to be taken seriously if we're murking greater daemons

[winter vessel]

Same reason when they ask how we aren't sick from inhaling all that toxic nurgle gas without proper decontamination equipment. shrugs game logic, man.

[spice ridge]

Idk if they brought in anything of that level in vermintide?

[jade holly]

I mean, people liked Boltgun

[green loom]

It's not really a paygrade issue

More a thematic issue

[spice ridge]

Yeah if a greater daemon is showing up it should mean that the world is even more screwed than we initially thought

[crisp heath]

Like..
Let the super powerful stuff come and let's have fun for once without criticizing it to oblivion cause it wasn't lore accurate. At least there's a plague ogryn on the screen that we can fight, and that's dope

[near wasp]

I doubt its a guo

[green loom]

I mean guard characters have dealth with XYZ before

But

[spice ridge]

Usually they die

[green loom]

It's not really thematic for us personally to just go and deal with it

[spice ridge]

Maybe the Rejects pave the way to deal with something big

But it'd be a tad silly if they're killing stuff like a chaos knight or smth

Just in my opinion tho

[jade holly]

I wonder if Be’lakor hates Typhus cause Typhus is Nurgle’s favorite

[crisp heath]

I think the way you explain it is the Grey nights arrive, just in a different portion of the city

[spice ridge]

If others would be all for it then so be it

[outer wave]

We're really being used more for espionage work and stuff behind enemy lines

[crisp heath]

Then it's lore accurate to be that screwed

[outer wave]

So straight up fights with GUOs is a bad idea for us

[verbal path]

Yes.

[jade holly]

Well duh we’re not going to knock on Morty’s door and make him our bitch as well

[spice ridge]

But yes being vored by a beast of nurgle should be game over but maybe the rejects are just too stupid and determined to get super mega turbo flu from nurgle

[jade holly]

even tho we can totally do that cause he’s a pushover

[crimson hatch]

Watch me

[winter vessel]

We wouldn't even get close at a ten mile radius without being diagnosed with a mutated version of Polio.

[spice ridge]

Morty is getting SO many more initials carved on his heart

[crisp heath]

Like, I agree it'd be silly and lore inaccurate, but like... 40k has very few good games. Maybe once, let the lore fall a bit for the experience

[jade holly]

Mf has no heart left with how many carves it’s got

[outer wave]

Tbf we should be pox walkers by now from the amount of Nurglite exposure

[crisp heath]

Especially with this being most people's primer into 40k, like... they aren't going to care if their puny human can actually fight the demon or not

[verbal path]

I mean, we're already very high power fantasy levels of power with what we already kill.

[jade holly]

When will we get to fight Nurglings

[spice ridge]

Plague Ogryns aren't that big of a step away from Plague Marines from what I hear

[jade holly]

I wanna punt one of those mfs

[spice ridge]

Or at least a Chaos Space Marine

Even though people like to act as though marines are just demigods (which, they're not)

[winter vessel]

i view it as, we only get powerful "just for the occasion, at this point in time, and at this very moment". Its only powerful for the sake of the narrative.

[spice ridge]

Primarchs are demigods, space marines are just supersoldiers

[verbal path]

People watch Astartes and think they're unkillable.

[jade holly]

How many Marines died to Orks is the real question

[crisp heath]

@verbal path they're kinda supposed to be nigh on....

[spice ridge]

Watching Space Marines murk a bunch of rabble and thinking that nothing comes close to them

[verbal path]

Its like how Spartans never die in universe in Halo.

[spice ridge]

We even see in the post credit sequence a Marine getting jumped by orks

Or two of them surrounded by Hormagaunts

[verbal path]

They're hyped up a lot but the truth is they die hard but do die.

[crisp heath]

Literally lol

[spice ridge]

Yeah to be fair to space marines, they tend to take a LOT of enemies with them before they go down

[winter vessel]

Well I've never seen a Space Marine ride a bomb in Zero G's at a Xeno Space ship to blow it up and get the highest kill count in the first hour of the battle.

[verbal path]

Space Marines aren't gonna be cannon fodder but they could be a mini boss like the others.

[spice ridge]

Lore accurate spartans...

They're called demons for a reason!

[crisp heath]

He was talking about astartes

[jade holly]

Give me a DG raid boss

[crisp heath]

And they very well could do some dumb shit like that lol

[jade holly]

[spice ridge]

Space Marine power also varies from book to book

Sometimes they're fast enough to literally catch bullets/bolt shot

[winter vessel]

ik

[spice ridge]

Sometimes they get murked by what should just be stubbers

On tabletop they tend to get mulched

[radiant lance]

Plot armour is widely distributed in any Warhammer media

[verbal path]

Plague marines become the new assassination target for Auric missions.

[celest dome]

No difficulty dependent unit pls

[crisp heath]

Ughhh they used to have an animation of master chief fighting an ultra marine.... I can't find it!!!!!

Bleeeeeh

Fatshark already confirmed no marines why do we keep asking for marines

[spice ridge]

Plague Marine being a boss of some sort would be pretty cool

Cuz marines cool....

And chaos space marines would be neat to fight

Granted hasn't Fatshark gone back on certain claims in Vermintide?

And introduced things they said wouldn't be added anyways?

[crisp heath]

I don't even want to fight a marine, I want to fight a dude named David who has mega herpes that he sprays all over you with a gun attached to his butt. This is nurgle baybee

[verbal path]

Fatshark's confirmations don't mean much tbh

[crisp heath]

Nothing fatshark ever says means anything

[celest dome]

Depend on the subject

[crisp heath]

If they ever say anything at all

Xbox learned that hard

[celest dome]

Fs want to do something
Yes that may not happen
Fs doesn't want to do something
That's unlikely to change

[crisp heath]

Look at vermintide, and what you said is wrong...

A lot they said they wouldn't do they did, and a lot they said they would do, they didnt

[celest dome]

What did they say they wouldn't do that they did ?

[crisp heath]

Honestly I feel the most likely thing on new enemies/story will be that they have missions in Secundus, where you fight genestealers

[celest dome]

The most likely expansion enemy wise are 1st and foremost new Dregs. Like Daemons

[spare osprey]

Not the nids again

[spice ridge]

They've claimed they're not going to do 'nids but again, who knows

[crisp heath]

Honestly would be a pretty good story, nurgle cult starts a plague and daemonic incursion, but one hive city manages to push them back and establish a safe haven, so the planet starts evacuating people there, and oops get gene stole

[spare osprey]

Nah

We already got a nid game coming

[celest dome]

Then it's dependent on what the narrative will swerve toward but I think it's gonna be one of the Cult, so that they leave space for the other cult for different expansion during the course of the game

[spare osprey]

Just leave this chaos

[spice ridge]

Imperium
Evacuation
Eh?

[crisp heath]

The imperium evacuates people all the time

[spice ridge]

Not like the Morningstar is about to start grabbing anyone but maybe some nobles up off the planet

[winter vessel]

Its a shame really. The whole thing about genestealers being added as a new enemy has turned into a "tinfoil hat conspiracy theory" scenario. Aliens man! I saw Aliens!

[spice ridge]

From thoroughly chaos infected planets though?

[merry vale]

manpower is a resource, if you can maintain the resource you do

[crisp heath]

Moving your workers from one city to a safer one is absolutely something a planetary governor will do

[merry vale]

the whole point of hive cities is manpower generation

[spare osprey]

Except the governor has their own shit goin on

Whole noble war and all

[spice ridge]

Until it's mentioned I ain't buying them evacuating civilians

Where else are all these poxwalkers coming from

[crisp heath]

@spare osprey looked online, can't find the old reports. 🤷‍♂️. That said, Fatshark has come out that they've developed a system we're ai can battle one another potentially, and I believe there was talks of adding it to this game with multiple factions. I can almost guarantee you we get more than a nurgle faction to fight.

[merry vale]

the non evacuated

[celest dome]

Yup, which is sad. Like there are things that we can talk about GSC teases, but they really burned any goodwill I had about it.

[crisp heath]

Idk who that faction will be, genestealer, other chaos, who knows...

[celest dome]

It's in the Necro Dev Blog

[crisp heath]

But I bet money it's coming

[spare osprey]

And I could believe it. Tho I find other chaos cults more likely

[spice ridge]

Slaanesh cultists 😳

[merry vale]

tertium had a population of like 17 billion? so theres plenty of poxwalkers to be made while still evacuating people

[crisp heath]

Tertium probably already had a few billion people living in the sewers that weren't documented or able to communicate

Because you know, hive city

[spice ridge]

Tru

[winter vessel]

and logistics is REALLY bad when trying to keep track of everything in the Imperium.

[celest dome]

The thing with GSC is that on most maps they wouldn't really mesh, like at the very least they would have to change the eye Daemon for flair.

[crisp heath]

I think the one thing I wish Darktide had more of is environmental storytelling. Like it's there, don't get me wrong, but I would love to be able to duck into a small row of tiny apartments with barely any possessions that aren't work related and just look at how the people lived

The atmosphere is so good and is a great excuse to take that kind of angle

@spare osprey especially when you consider vermintide had 3 factions you could fight against. Imagine nugles, Khornes, and slaneshs demons all having a three way (hehe giggity) fight and our 4 walk n all like, "Hey all, I brought snacks!" Lolol

[crisp heath]

Yeah that's why I expect new maps (Hive Secundus) and new enemies to come out together

[celest dome]

Beds under workstations in Metalfab would be great

[crisp heath]

Sometimes Darktides environmental storytelling is just

"They made tanks here"

• finds a tank *

Storee

Lol but then it's sometimes amazing too...

[celest dome]

New sector I think will always be tied to Tertium unless we go back to the Prison ship

For the second Hive I think it will be the setting for the Chaos Waste like system

[crisp heath]

Eh new maps are easier to do than a lot of the stuff people are asking for, and vermintide 2 has missions in some pretty exotic locations

[celest dome]

But Hives are really big and can have quite varied districts

[viral yacht]

how often do guardsmen use "fraggin" as a swear?

[crisp heath]

For me I don't doubt we'll see another hive, but the question is if they can make it feel like a different city or if it will just be tertium with some extra lore

[celest dome]

Karcking

[viral yacht]

yea

[crisp heath]

I guess it'd depend on the homeworld

[viral yacht]

karkin and fraggin

[crisp heath]

These are definitely the most common

[celest dome]

It's not really possible to make it a normal sector and not make it feel too similar to Tertium

Where putting it for the Chaos Waste would be an easy choice

[crisp heath]

It'd have to be a whole new like section and everything, with its own aurics and so on. For me at least

[celest dome]

Likewise I don't think we will see them make a née sector where only new enemy can go and vice versa

[crisp heath]

For me it's if you lean into the Gothic, the junkyard, or the explosion

Tertium is mostly pretty gothic

So you could make a second hive feel different but right by just leaning into a different aspect

More scrap heaps, garbage, broken stuff

Or just completely hollowed out

[celest dome]

But those could also be explored by having new sectors in the hive

While on the other hand, having the Chaos Waste system in the same hive would be a bit weird, as you have the winds of Chaos and all that

[crisp heath]

They need to release 1 to console

[near wasp]

We could be sent into the wastelands outside the hive

[celest dome]

For me the difference between the 2 hives will be in the mode they will be in

[winter vessel]

they got an asian dude this time? kinda neat

[celest dome]

Yes but that should be attached to Tertium and part of the normal mode

[crisp heath]

@crisp heath idk but whoever does should

I don't think races like that really apply anymore in 40k lol...

Not like Asia exists or has existed for thousands of years lol

[winter vessel]

Brother Markiplier...

[dense salmon]

Chrisean rock a 40k fan???

[crisp heath]

Imperium might be the least racist country humanity ever made

[storm jungle]

Humanity has spread across the stars, all ethnicites included.

A lot of the current ethnicities we know exist in 40k.

[dense salmon]

I went to high school with this girl and she became famous lol, just thought the random tweet was funny

[storm jungle]

like, Chogoris is literally still mongols

[dense salmon]

It's almost literally 1:1 space mongolia too

[storm jungle]

Yep

like theres no new ethnicity in 40k

mostly because lazy writing

and prob because if you tried to invent new ones it'd be a bit racist lol

[crisp heath]

@storm jungle right, but I mean it's not what distinguishes you I guess anymore in the imperium. Your home planet I'd say does that more

Instead of being Asian, you're cadian for instance

And that carries the same weight and connotation I guess

In society

[storm jungle]

Yeah but that form of racism still exists yeah

like Catachan hate on Cadians all the time to a ridiculous level

sexism also still exists to a degree

[crisp heath]

Exactly

[storm jungle]

but IRL racism almost non-existant yep

though thats probably also because it would be awkward to write lol

like that scene in attack on titan where the main cast see a black guy for the first time and someone asks him why is his skin dark

💀

[crisp heath]

🤣 🤣

[storm jungle]

THOUGH I WILL SAY

He answers it incredibly smoothly

let me get the scene

https://youtu.be/j6UuIAxZnLA

My guy has absolute rizz

[crisp heath]

Alright, that was smooth

[storm jungle]

Love it

but yeah people in the Imperium realistically speaking would definitely have some cultural shock moments like this for a brief moment or two

but its not something to really focus on because not every 40K writer can write a smooth scene like the one above

[dense salmon]

Be someone on nostramo

Leave your planet for the first time

See someone with dark skin

Imagine their confusion

Better yet, someone whose eyes aren't dark pitd

[crisp heath]

I find it hard anyone, even melanated fam would get very dark in a hive city without strong genetics...

Eventually without a lot of sun that will fade

[storm jungle]

AYO

[dense salmon]

Are the cadian purple eyes genetic? Or would a second generation born far away from the eye of terror have normal eyes

[spare osprey]

New wyrmwood?

Sounds like a different person

[crisp heath]

What... that's just evolution... it would happen over time. It would be slight and take a Loooong time, but eventually they would lose color, going from dark to tan to pale within however many generations.

[warm notch]

I wonder if Vitamin D deficiency is common in Hive Cities

[crisp heath]

@spare osprey wormwood dead, would have to be right?

[spare osprey]

Seems so

[warm notch]

Unless the artificial lights help with vitamin D somehow

[crisp heath]

Wouldn't doubt it

Bet malnutrition is rampant

[warm notch]

That’s awful huh

You’d expect the Imperium would at least do the bare minimum for their workers

[crisp heath]

It's like animals trapped in caves. Over time pigment dies without contact with the sun

[warm notch]

Otherwise the war machine would grind to a halt

[median marsh]

Alright boys, who wants to go for drinks it Gutbucket

[warm notch]

But I guess that’s the point

[median marsh]

(sign seen in the video )

[warm notch]

They just don’t care

[storm jungle]

I was reacting to the trailer whoops

[crisp heath]

Ahhh

[storm jungle]

Wyrmwood is also the main gal and she has more agents

[warm notch]

Veteran keystones are interesting

[near wasp]

Welp my grandparents sent me money to buy models for my bday. Lets gooo

[warm notch]

I’m glad they added a tagging keystone

Would’ve been weird if there wasn’t at least one ability in the game that featured tagging as a crucial ability

I’m also afraid if the nodes are still as restricted as current vet tree

[crisp heath]

@storm jungle right, it's more a designation for those type of agents, right?

[green loom]

New trailer?

[crisp heath]

That gets confusing lol

@green loom ye

[warm notch]

Wonder if we’ll find Wyrmwood’s (as in the agent from the vox videos) corpse

[green loom]

Hubba hubba hubba

[warm notch]

Or find her taken hostage

[storm jungle]

Have you ever watched Dark Knight Rising

Same energy on the opening was

"Dr. Pavel, I'm CIA."

[median marsh]

i dont think shes a hostage considering by the sound of it her soul got ripped out

[crisp heath]

Hahaha yesss!!!

[crisp heath]

This would be dope... I really want these voxs to be incorporated into the game somehow, and not just out here as pike secondary story.

That's great and all, I guess I'm just greedy and want more lol

[echo vault]

WELCOME TO THE CARNIVAL

[warm notch]

Would be funny

I want missions to be unexpectedly changed

Cuz every mission is just “go there do this”

I want something that’ll actually make us pivot and do something else

[median marsh]

i can already see the programmers committing seppuku

[warm notch]

What?

[green loom]

Can you link it to me?

Where are these being revealed

[crisp heath]

@green loom it's the beginning if the video above

This one

[green loom]

Oh i meant for SM2

[crisp heath]

@crisp heath

Ahhh mb

[green loom]

Where are these from

[outer wave]

So Wyrmwood refers to both an organization and this one particular agent?

[median marsh]

Wyrmwood is a codename

when they send their reports they all use it, instead of usual callsigns and whatnot

[crisp heath]

Wyrmwood is the codename for all the agents

Basically, they are intelligence agents that work for Inquisitor Gryndel, sorta like her own private CIA, and they perform similar functions. Espionage, reconnaissance, potentially assassination.

And as her most Profaned Beauty and Malificent Debauchery stated previously, Grendyl seems to have deigned to use one code name for all the agents. Perhaps for simplicities sake. Perhaps as some strategy to make it harder on the enemy to gain counter intelligence should any one get captured. It could lead them to stop looking for a time.

Idk there honestly

[celest dome]

Isn't it Grendyl ?

[median marsh]

Grendyl yeah

[crisp heath]

Thanks my brain was hating me lolol

[lapis wadi]

Hard to tell how many agents there are if they're all "Wyrmwood" from the traitor side.
There could be 10, there could be 100, they could be there, they could be here

https://tenor.com/view/imposter-tf2-hidino-it-could-be-you-it-coud-be-me-gif-23428091

[outer wave]

Moebian 6th members discussing who's a Wyrmwood agent

[lapis wadi]

The roots go far

Wyrming their way into every crevice

[outer wave]

HAH

[storm jungle]

Thats mostly for the necrons.

Their technology is basically space-magic.

[arctic talon]

Necrons managed to destroy a law of physics

Gj necrons

[lapis wadi]

When you have even just a tenuous grasp on time manipulation, things get.. weird.
Though to be fair with Time's Arrow, that's a C'Tan with bonafide "I'm a God I can do what I want" power

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[lean crypt]

Let's not forget the Necrons also have that thing that can blow up a star with the push of a button. I can't remember the name of it, but I think it was called the Celestial Orrery or something?

[storm jungle]

Yep thats it

but its only for one dynasty

one thats thankfully very responsible and enjoy not waging war on anyone

though other necron dynasties are waging war on THEM to get the Orrery

[lean crypt]

And I know Trazyn "I collect moments" the Infinite went there a couple of times as well

[crisp heath]

@lean crypt oh yeah lol that's a funny story

[lean crypt]

watch we're gonna see Trazyn as an Easter egg in Darktide one of these days

[crisp heath]

@lean crypt I would love that, then die

[lean crypt]

As most Guardsmen do.

[crisp heath]

If someone kills Lucius and then that dude is immediately killed by another guy is Lucius done for?

Or would it transfer to the next dude

I bet it'd just transfer

[lean crypt]

I would think it'd transfer since Lucius is eternal

[crisp heath]

Gross I hate this guy

Unless it was like perfectly simultaneous

Someone blow him up

Then it might split his soul or something

[storm jungle]

Lucius has one of the strongest plot armors in warhammer

if Slaanesh wills it he will return

lol

so it doesnt even have to be someone else

[lean crypt]

I wonder if a Condemner Pattern Bolter would do damage to him...

[crisp heath]

The most plot armour and literally almost never uses it

[lean crypt]

Well there was that one Hammer and Bolter episode

[storm jungle]

Everything does damage to him

hes just a chaos marine with a duellist gimmick

[lean crypt]

Fair point.

[storm jungle]

yeah hes basically the epitome of a DeviantArt OC

[crisp heath]

Man I hate slanesh so much

Good writing I guess to have such a bad reaction

They are so gross

[green loom]

I think he and Farsight are the worst NGL

[crisp heath]

Farsight is basically tau Jesus as far as I’m aware

[lean crypt]

Tau Jesus with a Warp powered sword.

[green loom]

He's Phil Kelly's epic OC

[lean crypt]

His original OC, plz do not steal

[green loom]

Tau super general swordsman who is immortal and broke off to make his own faction of reasonable peoples

[bold veldt]

and 1v1'd a bloodthirster and won because why not

and fended off an orc invasion

[crisp heath]

reasonable not brainwashed people lolol

[lean crypt]

Totally not

[storm jungle]

Damn its not like generic imperial characters dont do that constantly

also the ork invasion bit is not that ridiculous, hes literally a commander and did it with an army

[bold veldt]

they.. dont?

[storm jungle]

Bruh

[crisp heath]

I hate factions of reasonable people

Didn't like a random adeptus sororitas cleave a demon in two once?

That’s not why I got into 40k

[storm jungle]

Pretty much every faction has that yeah

[crisp heath]

@storm jungle right lol

[storm jungle]

if you want them to look badass have them kill a Big Enemy Man

[bold veldt]

one of em parried a bloodthirsters sword.. they got cut in half by the second swing, but its cool they parried the first

[storm jungle]

so much for "they dont"

[crisp heath]

@bold veldt that might be what I'm remembering

[lean crypt]

And Cain himself went against Khornate Space Marines and won (with outside help since he is stupid lucky)

[bold veldt]

sometimes lore just "plot armor" and then boom, a random guy kils a bloodthirster because they need to keep 40K alive

[crisp heath]

Lol but, hey, that makes it cannon

Shit happens, daemons fuck around and fuck up, and die lol just like the rest of us

[green loom]

Sex is canon in Warhammer t

[storm jungle]

[crisp heath]

We all trip sometimes lolol

[bold veldt]

alot is canon

[lean crypt]

Like the M1911...... For some reason

[green loom]

I think a lot is cannon

[storm jungle]

cant be

I thought the Horus Heresy was all a bad dream

[crisp heath]

.... I'm sorry to say that was just the chloroform Lucius used

[storm jungle]

man if only that was what happened

💀

[crisp heath]

Oh I just meant you waking up. Oh yeah, horus fucked up sangy, chaos gods reign, and I'm gonna plunge your bung hole Slurp

🤣

[lean crypt]

Inquisitors? Yeah we got another Slaaneshi cultist.

[crisp heath]

It completely slid off my brain that ed posted this at first

Might change my name and pfp to Lucia's for shits and gigs

[storm jungle]

Next you'll tell me women exist in warhammer

[bold veldt]

have i got a character for you

names Minka Lesk

[crisp heath]

... I have this amazing thing to show you

Ever heard of death metal nuns with guns?

[storm jungle]

Read all her books.

shes ok

[bold veldt]

theres also these people called Adeptas Sororitas

legit nuns with guns

[lean crypt]

Yeah everyone knows the Sisters of Battle and Sisters of Silence are a myth spread by Cadian soldiers to raise morale.

[bold veldt]

oh and their Repentia are amazing

[storm jungle]

change "Cadian soldiers" to "40k fans" and you are semi-correct

[lean crypt]

The best kind of correct next to technically

[crisp heath]

@lean crypt till your lying there festering from rot missing every limb and a shining angel comes to put a bullet to your brain

I'd say yeah, most might think their myths

[green loom]

I'm allowed to have fun sometimes

[lean crypt]

It's like when Guilliman made a joke in front of Sicarius.

[crisp heath]

Sorry, I'm the final arbiter of who gets to have fun and your application hasn't passed by my desk yet

@green loom DAILY ALLOTMENT OF "FUN" EXCEEDED. PLEASE REPORT TO THE MALEFECTORUM FOR SANCTION

[bold veldt]

"attention citizen, mutliple third party individuals have reported one or more of your actions as innapropriate"

[crisp heath]

😆 This has happened somewhere in the 40k universe.

No doubt

[green loom]

Besides I'm in a good mood for once

[crisp heath]

Some poor bloke passing jokes gets caught and ends up becoming a clown version of a serviter or some shit lolol

[tight stratus]

People keep telling me that female Ogryns DO exsist technically, if thats the case, why dont we have female ogryns in darktide?

[lapis wadi]

Fatshark didn't trust the userbase with them

Tell me I'm wrong

[celest dome]

Cause GW never revealed what they look like before

[storm jungle]

GW didn't allow it

[tight stratus]

gotcha

[storm jungle]

because they got no visual representation in the tabletop

[celest dome]

But yes they do exist and we have named character of them

[tight stratus]

Yeah they bring up the hero

[celest dome]

A tally I think we may have 2. Cassia and one that Jurgen woed

[tight stratus]

i know next to nothing about warhammer lore so I thought I'd ask here. My knowledge comes from my highschool friends bringing in the warhammer shopping catalogue into school and talk about the different races

[crisp heath]

@storm jungle @tight stratus Pyscher Ogryn exist too. We should get multi classing lol

[lapis wadi]

It's kinda weird they're just absent tho I admit

[tight stratus]

I didnt know this! That's wild!

[crisp heath]

That is represented in tabletop if I'm not mistaken

@tight stratus yea, and they're generally insanely powerful if I'm not mistaken

[bold veldt]

"yes sah, i popped his brain sah!"

[lapis wadi]

Artificially psionically awoken Ogryn, mind you

[celest dome]

Not really represented, but Necromunda does have rules for them.
Not models though

[lapis wadi]

The mad scientist chose ogryn because they survive a whopping 20% of the time.

[storm jungle]

Basically ANYTHING in this game that is gonna be added like cosmetics, weapons, locations, characters, etc etc has to be approved by GW since they are extremely protective of their IP and careful on what they want to present in games because they aren't a game-company more just a miniature/tabletop one, so this is treated as a side-gig for them, its a very annoying and corporate approach but thats just how GW is lol

8 writers from Black Library (GW's book writer division) also worked on the dialogue for the entire character cast.

[crisp heath]

Ok fair enough@celest dome

[bold veldt]

over 19%

[crisp heath]

I wasn't 100 percent sure

[storm jungle]

You are still correct, psychic ogryn are starting to occur across the galaxy due to the Rift.

Necromunda ones are made through drug-usage.

[celest dome]

Draught iirc

[storm jungle]

it had a really dumb name

Ghast i think?

[tight stratus]

That's super interesting, some the outfits look wild to me its nice to know most of the shops cosmetics come from somewhere...something.

I always often wondered about the Power Mauls Ogryns have, they look so out of place from the rest of their arsanel!

[storm jungle]

its specifically made for them

[tight stratus]

That's wild! I wonder if someones ever made models of ogryns with glowey little l.e.d mauls in their hands like people do with the necron models!

[celest dome]

Isn't Ghast the Delague Psyker drug ?

[storm jungle]

I THINK so? Like i said the drugs have super dumb names i cant remember

[lapis wadi]

Correct! Wow it's not even 20% success rate.

[tight stratus]

I legit didnt even know Bullgryns were a thing till the other day, I ordered some warhammer models thanks to darktide and I ORDERED ogryns. But what came was a box called Bullgryns but you can make both from them apparently.

[storm jungle]

Yeah bullgryns are the heavy-armor ogryns

[green loom]

Joegryn supremacy

[tight stratus]

Yeah they look super rad!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/861735313583636530/1171803681830740098/IMG_20231108_132912_8.jpg?ex=655e0238&is=654b8d38&hm=361ae7629e3067771d437090b35e137b67683ff2538dc6a04767cd905dfceaac&

[storm jungle]

They are great

also darktide is doing its job making you buy GW stuff

[lapis wadi]

They added the 'tank track' armor to the store... now I just wish I had the aquillae to buy it

[rose thorn]

Km so glad they gave you a free character in your box o ogryn now

[tight stratus]

Haha, its my goto game atm. Nothing else really scratches my Itch. I'm bored of TF2 even, and I have 8000+ hours in that.

[storm jungle]

Thats a mood alright 💀

[green loom]

I feel like we're gonna finally see actual regular content updates now

[tight stratus]

Me too! Though when I walked into my games workshop in Leicester and told the shopkeeper I've been addicted to Darktide he looked at me dumbfounded and said "Warcraft?" And had to tell him Darktide again and that he should know cause its Warhammer!

[rose thorn]

I’m sick of playing video games but now I only have energy to play them lately

[tight stratus]

So explaining that I wanted ogryns was even harder!

[storm jungle]

Lmao that sucks

[green loom]

That sounds like an experience

[tight stratus]

I'm thankfully quite extroverted but I know a decade ago little baby introvert me would go "Oh thank you for your time anyway" and leave. XD

[storm jungle]

Im 30 years old and I literally do that in the GW shop i go to here 💀

"Okay just walk in and buy the books you want and leave"

stares at models im never gonna buy for 20 minutes incase someone might look over at my direction

[rose thorn]

I need to make a list of things h wnana get and the items I would want isntead lol

[green loom]

I've never seen a GW Store

[rose thorn]

‘Okay j want thsi character, and if they don’t have it I want Thai instead, and if not that then I’ll buy this book’

[arctic talon]

Not missing much

[celest dome]

"Do not talk to the people, do not talk to the people"
"Get the Skit and scram"

[arctic talon]

Most of them are

Small

[tight stratus]

Mood, I spent most of my 20's isolated and still am quite lonely so I think something clicked in my brain that went "Look we gotta start getting more extraverted otherwise we gonna grow cobwebs"

Lots of life improvement happened and still doing my best x)

[outer wave]

Mood

[tight stratus]

I was honestly a bit dumbfounded to see GW was called Warhammer now, definately sells more than Games Workshop but still.

[green loom]

I'm finally getting good at drawing so hopefully I can get me more models and actually buy things instead of waiting 3 years to get a game

[celest dome]

Impressive, applaudable

[arctic talon]

Yeah all the gamesworkshop stores are just called warhammer stores now lol

Sorta weird

[tight stratus]

I seem to remember a hot minute ago Games Workshops used to also sell model planes and trainsets too, as well as the warhammer. But I didn't see any of that now

[storm jungle]

at the moment the only non-warhammer stuff they sell is uhh Lord of the Rings

they mostly dropped every other non-IP they didn't own and solely focus on WH now

[green loom]

I feel like there was a fairly large surge of popularity for it in the last decade

Which might be why

[tight stratus]

Specially among my american friends. Almost every american friend I know loves it, and if they don't know about it they've heard about it and think its cool.

[misty brook]

I'm still awaiting the day they'll reveal the 2nd and 11th Primarchs with their Legions.

[arctic talon]

So never

Got it

[near wasp]

Here is where id put my rhino, if i could get one!

[tight stratus]

So from what I remember from when I was in year 6 at the table with my warhammer friends.

Chaos space marines/space marines: POG
Imperial: POG
Tau: You're so lame but atleast you're not ELDAR
Tyranids: yeaaahhh boy
Eldar: Ew
Dark Eldar: Ew x2
Necrons: Yeah I guess its cool, the weird monolith is kinda freaky tho

Is that still true or?

[storm jungle]

I mean no

[misty brook]

You forgot Exodite Eldar.

[storm jungle]

everyone has their own faction they like

[lapis wadi]

Basic™️ taste tbh

[storm jungle]

^

dont listen to what people say to you to like

judge and differentiate them yourself

[lapis wadi]

I have a friend who runs Eldar and they look cool

Craftworld eldar that is

I.. forget which one

[tight stratus]

That's what puzzled me, everyone always riffed on Eldar, but everytime I went to the warhammer club just to look at the models I'd always see those...fish...tank things on the table that Eldar have

[storm jungle]

Its literally just

"Ew elf bad."

they are a pretty cool faction

[misty brook]

I only thing I don't like is them being snobbish as they're literally dying out. Their empire is scattered to the four winds in the galaxy from their own hurbis.

[storm jungle]

damn

[lapis wadi]

There's good reason for a bunch of factions to dislike the eldar in-universe but the models are cool and they have interesting lore
Also Harlequins are rad

[storm jungle]

sounds kinda familiar

[crisp heath]

Eldar bad because they're ugly and weird. Everything else is fine about them.

[storm jungle]

Its like everyone in this universe is arrogant or something

[misty brook]

I blame that the Emperor for being a bad dad...

[tight stratus]

I remember in the catalogue they'd open I'd always comment on how I liked the look of the boat ships the...I think Dark eldar had? That looked rad even if it was silly

[storm jungle]

Yeah they are suppose to be re-purposed pleasure craft made for raiding

its to envoke that space-pirate vibe

[crisp heath]

Vect is the coolest mini in existence

[misty brook]

The models are, yea. The hair is way too long for me though.

[lapis wadi]

I don't even think the Emperor was a bad father these days, I just think he was a bad leader.
Kill Angron, take the time to do the Crusade right, move on to Webway only after the Imperium is secure

[marsh berry]

They always felt very Star Wars desert skiff to me

[storm jungle]

thats probably half the inspiration

[lapis wadi]

...also like, notice the Laer Blade

How did you NOT

[storm jungle]

He was following the script

[misty brook]

He saw them as tools not as his actual sons which Erda did.

[crisp heath]

https://miniset.net/files/set/gw-99140112030.jpg

[lapis wadi]

"Hey sonny boy that shit is like, SUPER cursed. Swap you for one of mine."

[tight stratus]

I unironically loved Tusken Raiders and used to play that strange gamemode in battlefront 2 on PS2 just to play as them all the time with their god aweful rifles vs the Jawas

[lapis wadi]

I mean that's the point, he mistreated his tools. I don't give a shit about him not connecting with them emotionally.
Sure that's the ideal but he didn't even use them as tools properly.

[storm jungle]

GW writers be like

"SHIT WE DIDNT EXPLAIN THIS, WRITE ANOTHER BOOK TO EXPLAIN IT"

[lapis wadi]

You gotta clean your tools, recognise when they're broken

[storm jungle]

HH in a nutshell

[lapis wadi]

And clean up your shop before you start a new project

If I didn't know better I'd have assumed the Emperor was trying to speedrun the Crusade

[tight stratus]

A friend got me to start listening to some of the necron audio books. I loved how spanish accented one of them was, thats about my extent of warhammer book reading lol

[near wasp]

Necron books are great

[storm jungle]

the best part?

theres like 4 of them

so you wont be lost reading like 10000 imperial books instead

[tight stratus]

The way people make Necrons sound is that they're scary mother heckers though.

[marsh berry]

I know I read the Ultramarines Omnibus as a kid lol

[lapis wadi]

Okay admittedly he might have been trying to get the Crusade over and done with to replace the Navigators and Astartes asap before they became entrenched
But like.. a couple more centuries really wouldn't have made much a difference would it

[marsh berry]

No idea if it was good

[near wasp]

Thats the worst part

[misty brook]

If did he try to speedrun. Then he would've built the Webway project first after conquering the Sol System.

[tight stratus]

I could be a necron scholar

[crisp heath]

Necrons in guard or even space marine books are terrifying ancient abominations that come out of the ground to kill and will never rest until you are utterly destroyed

Necrons in necron books are mostly elder queers with dementia

[tight stratus]

Their guns always looked like tennis ball launchers to me.

[misty brook]

The Twice-Dead King is my favorite.

[storm jungle]

All you need to know before you start reading.

[lapis wadi]

Why did they name necron guns as gauss weapons

[storm jungle]

because it sounds cool

[green loom]

Me when the server bans AI Art

[lapis wadi]

They are not gauss though
They might as well be named tesla guns or quantum guns.

[crisp heath]

Wait, is that banned now too...?

[misty brook]

It has a tesla looking coil in the weapon.

[green loom]

Rule 7 I think

No

Rule 9

[crisp heath]

But... like... why...?

Not even 40k themed ai art? Some of its bangers...

[lapis wadi]

No commercial AI art generator is ethically trained or provable as such

[celest dome]

Protect real artists

[crisp heath]

... and GW is the most ethical company...?

[lapis wadi]

That's not a good excuse for you to proliferate art theft

[misty brook]

I wanna see Szarekh The Silent King vs Imotekh The Storm Lord. One must rule, the other must serve. Or be destroyed.

[crisp heath]

Seems weird for a game discord to die on that hill...

I'm gonna be real chief

[lapis wadi]

Don't knock the few bits of morality there are

[crisp heath]

Has to be proven it's a form of theft first...

[lapis wadi]

Though it's probably a legal reason

[crisp heath]

Szarekh does not give a shit what Imotekh is doing

[green loom]

I'll be the first to say it depends on the generator
But 90% of the ones making said generators probably list ethics and intellectual property as their greatest enemy

[near wasp]

It stole peoples art to generate its results

[lapis wadi]

Even if the server was cool with it, you really shouldn't be

[celest dome]

It's not a Discord rule, it's a broad FS rule

[misty brook]

They both want to reunite their people, except one wants them to be fleshy being again.

[crisp heath]

It also doesn't give you back that same art, cant do it without direct human input, and can't reproduce the exact image twice no matter how manybtimes you try... so it's not really stealing their art...

[storm jungle]

We have many artists that post in the fanart channel and they don't appreciate their art being in the same place as things you just put in a machine and produce it in like 2 minutes.

[green loom]

Don't think it's a discussion for this chat tbh

[storm jungle]

Also yeah this.

[crisp heath]

Szarekh sees imotekh reunited the Necrons with conquest and is just like "that's cool. You kill tyranids now."

[near wasp]

[crisp heath]

Why do I care what they appreciate. If a sketch artist doesn't like I paint. Does that matter? Or if I bring clays out and make a mess... or sketch on a digital pad? How much tech is allowed in my art before it's not ok....

Just seems weird to me to be so anal about it.

[lapis wadi]

Dude take the L

[near wasp]

When you no longer draw it and a machine generates it. End of story now drop it

[crisp heath]

Lol ok mini mods

[celest dome]

What effort or talent do you bring to the table ?

[crisp heath]

Learning how to prompt for one

[celest dome]

By using Ai art ?

[crisp heath]

Setting up my own ais for two

It is a team effort between the prompter and the machine...

[lapis wadi]

And who's art you going to train it on

[celest dome]

learning how to prompt

[green loom]

Not for this chat

[storm jungle]

Yeah lets move on please.

[near wasp]

Ok thief we dont care

[storm jungle]

I don't want to time out anyone here.

[crisp heath]

@lapis wadi literally doesn't matter, because it's not like it will ever make an exact match to their product...

But yea I'll stop

[tight stratus]

Drew this 2 years ago cause when I took apart my fan it reminded me of necron

[spare osprey]

Beautiful

[green loom]

Oh my god it's a chaos android from ye olde days

[lapis wadi]

Man of Iron mk 0.00001

[near wasp]

What the humans saw on serenade

[lapis wadi]

Do they survive in any capacity in modern 40k?
Like, chaos heretek robots or something?

Even just fluff, no models

[green loom]

As a matter of fact Genefather makes mention of them

[lapis wadi]

Hey, neat

[near wasp]

Im pretty sure there are still rouge ai wandering in the wastes of mars

[crisp heath]

@near wasp there absolutely is

And other horrors

[celest dome]

Are there still those Orks cyborg ? Like SM, Squats and Eldar like bots

[crisp heath]

Yeah Brutal Kunnin talks about tinboyz

[tight stratus]

from what I know Orcs come from mushrooms and were made to kill Necrons? I think. And everything they imagine just is real so long as they believe it so

[lapis wadi]

Thinking of cyborgs, do eldar have like wraithbone prosthetics?

[near wasp]

I still need to finieh that book

[misty brook]

I remember the Dark Angels had twelve Men of Iron, but lost five of them against the Dark Mechanicum.

[lapis wadi]

Oversimplified but.. yeah basically

[lapis wadi]

Dark Dark Mechanicum
Is that the SUPER evil Mechanicum
Or just regular Mechanicum (who are also evil)

(Yes I saw you editted but the thought of the Dark Dark Mechanicum amuses me)

[arctic talon]

They can just regrow their flesh

[misty brook]

Spell check hates me a lot.

[crisp heath]

The three great machinist factions of the warp: dark mechanicum, darker mechanicum, dank mechanicum

[lapis wadi]

Oh. Yeah that.. that makes sense.
Sensible of them. Yup.

Nowhere near as cool as living bone arms with psyker powers

But yeah.. sensible.

[storm jungle]

Eldar only get prosthetics as a fashion statement or if it looks cool, otherwise as Wolf said their technology is super advanced to regrow limbs.

very relatable imo lol

[lapis wadi]

I WANT CORSAIRS WITH WRAITHBONE PEGLEGS

[crisp heath]

The Locked Tomb series has a major character who has this if that's your poison

[arctic talon]

Vashtorr ironically doesn’t like the dark mechanicum much

[storm jungle]

yeah which is kinda weird

[arctic talon]

Stealing his customers

[storm jungle]

its literally his thing

[arctic talon]

SMH

[crisp heath]

Lol the Uber culty guys who found Vashtorr and began worshipping him

[arctic talon]

He’s too much of a selfish bastard ig

Lol

[lapis wadi]

I'd have thought the Dark Mechanicum would BE his customers, huh

[near wasp]

The chaos gods are his customers

[lapis wadi]

He should look into franchising

[arctic talon]

He runs the forge of souls which spits out daemon engines and daemonic weapons

Dark mechanicum also like making daemon engines

Ergo they’re his competition

[misty brook]

They worship the Omniessiah still. Aka the Void Dragon which they don't know it is. Since they know for certain that the Emperor isn't the Omniessiah.

[near wasp]

The dark cogboys also do that, they are competitors

[arctic talon]

As of end and the death part 2

[crisp heath]

@misty brook wouldn't a better god for them be Vashtorr?

[arctic talon]

We have a better idea

Of what they worship lol

[lapis wadi]

He's a god of machines, right? You'd think a bunch of Dark Mechanicus would go "Oh hey, the REAL Omnissiah!"

[arctic talon]

And it’s not the void dragon

[crisp heath]

And not the dragon, since it's caged. Plus Vashtorr would fit the dark dark theme

[arctic talon]

We don’t quite know what Vashtorr is the god of

It’s most likely technological like

Progress

Of both the good and bad kind

[near wasp]

Vashtor is the machine god

[arctic talon]

Considering the Necrontyr bio transference fed him a ton

[lapis wadi]

It's hard to say he's NOT a god of machinery in some form

[arctic talon]

And was his proper “awakening”

So to speak

[misty brook]

The Void Dragon is trapped under Mars, because of the Emperor and they are hidden catacombs of who know what lurks down there. Hidden treasues of STDS and lost tech from the Dark Age of Technology.

[arctic talon]

The dark mechanicum doesn’t worship the void dragon

As of end and the death part 2

[near wasp]

Std xD you mean stc

[arctic talon]

[lapis wadi]

ponders what happens if you put Vashtorr artifacts and Jokaero together

[arctic talon]

They’re worshipping whatever the fuck ||the dark king|| is

Kelbor Hal even calls it the “true omnissiah”

[lapis wadi]

I really hope so

...then again bioweapons are also stored on Mars so

There's probably more than 0

[crisp heath]

@arctic talon @near wasp
Idk how much we trust lexicanum, but he's the Ruler of the Forge of Souls, and "Having long kept himself shrouded from most races, Vashtorr is a demi-god of inventors, engineers, scientists, and artisans. He is empowered by acts of curiosity (like Slaanesh) and innovation (like Tzeentch) in the Materium, shorn of morality and driven to its darkest extremes. He has only manifested a handful of times in galactic history, and some crypto-scholars maintain he was created amidst the reckless arms race of some ancient galaxy-spanning war. Others propose he was brought about by the horrors of the Dark Age of Technology, where he proved a patron to many of its technological horrors. He is also said to have been empowered by events such as the rise of the Necrons, the Cursed Founding, and the creation of Primaris Space Marines."

[arctic talon]

It’s pretty accurate

It’s a summary of what was said in the arks of omen book

Except we have confirmation his “birth” was related to the necron bio transference

[lapis wadi]

Lex is pretty trustworthy

It's a wiki so like, never fully but.. yeah

[crisp heath]

Then, yea. I'd say there ya go

[arctic talon]

Lexicanum often has bullshit sources

Which is annoying

[lapis wadi]

Look at least it's not the fandom wiki

[lapis wadi]

Okay but that doesn't answer the question why the Dark Mechanicus doesn't flock to him

[normal light]

But it’s better than Fandom

[lapis wadi]

You just reposted his wiki entry

[arctic talon]

Probably because he kills them lol

He has like almost 0 mortal followers

He prefers the company of daemons

[lapis wadi]

Yeah that'd do it

[crisp heath]

@lapis wadi I literally went to lexicanum... like I said...

[keen stratus]

Has the meme channel been reomved? i cant find it

[green loom]

Yes

[near wasp]

Yes

[keen stratus]

Why?

[normal light]

We were oppressed by the state

[crisp heath]

@keen stratus nazis

[arctic talon]

Vashtorr realistically speaking shouldn’t even be in the csm book lol

Mostly since he’s

[near wasp]

Check gen pins

[arctic talon]

Not a fan of mortals?

[normal light]

[arctic talon]

He’s weird

He’s also trying to become a full blown major chaos god

[lapis wadi]

He wants to be a chaos god without worshippers?

[misty brook]

Can we all agree, being a Psyker sucks.

[keen stratus]

sons of bitches, the fuck they mean they mental health?

[lapis wadi]

Yup

[keen stratus]

it was horny postin mostly

and then other things

[arctic talon]

He wants worshippers who don’t compete with his product

[keen stratus]

but like not bad shit

[arctic talon]

Aka he wants slaves

[crisp heath]

Yea, I know. Just thought he'd fit for an Uber, doubly dark mechanicum cult to stumble onto and worship lol

[arctic talon]

Lol

[green loom]

Yes it was

[arctic talon]

He wants to drag them into the forge of souls to work for him

[green loom]

Do you know how much shit I had to report???

[normal light]

Make servitors?

[arctic talon]

Instead of working on his own

[green loom]

And I checked it infrequently

[keen stratus]

No thats the thing

[arctic talon]

Idk

[keen stratus]

i checked it all days

[arctic talon]

The forge of souls

[normal light]

Like

[arctic talon]

Is 100% daemon operated

[keen stratus]

never saw nothing i consider that bad

[arctic talon]

As of now

[green loom]

You either ignored it or were doing it then

[arctic talon]

It’s only daemons running it

[green loom]

Or it got deleted before you saw it

[arctic talon]

And being fed into it

It’s pretty funny

[normal light]

YOO LETS SPLICE DEAMON AND SERVITOR AND SEE WHAT COMES NEXT?

[misty brook]

Belakor has beef with Vashtor too, lol.

[green loom]

Belakor has beef with everyone

[lapis wadi]

Daemonhost basically?

[arctic talon]

bela’kor has beef with every minor chaos god

[odd tulip]

That is because we were spending unreasonable amounts of time deleting the horrible stuff.

[normal light]

But lobotomised

[crisp heath]

@lapis wadi with mech parts lol

[keen stratus]

Oh, good job then

quick question, where am i supposed to post memes now?

[arctic talon]

Nowhere

[keen stratus]

well i mean

people posted memes here also

maybe.......

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/pikmin-white-pikmin-death-gif-19148419

[crisp heath]

@keen stratus you dont here lol

[normal light]

All you memes were confiscated and now belong to STATE

[crisp heath]

But pics and vids if you're brave

[odd tulip]

If they're Darktide related and made by you, you could put them in picsvids. Otherwise, use r/grimdank

[keen stratus]

oh ok

[arctic talon]

Unironicially Bel’akor doesn’t get along with anyone

It’s kinda funny lol

[keen stratus]

im not into reddit

cause reddit

[lapis wadi]

There's got to be a general 40k discord out there too

[odd tulip]

This is totally fair, but I need you to understand that 99% of the memes you saw on our memes channel came from r/grimdank

[arctic talon]

It has a memes channel

[crisp heath]

I'm sure there's multiple

[keen stratus]

ohright

[arctic talon]

There’s 2 big warhammer ones

One for like all warhammer

And one for 40K specifically

There’s also an age of sigmar one

[misty brook]

Quick question, which hive city if your guy's favorite? For me it's Necromunda.

[arctic talon]

Varguanta bcs warhammer crime

[plush mason]

isnt that a world?

[misty brook]

Yes, but people call it that most, instead of The Palatine.

[plush mason]

ok

[crisp heath]

Hive city?

Hmmm....

Probably Acheron... I always liked the name, lol my rpc shares it. And it's good for the empire.

So yea, I'd say it

[storm jungle]

Necromunda for me too because its like the only fleshed out hive-world in 40k

[crisp heath]

Unfortunately this is true....

[storm jungle]

yeah people always say this because like

"Bro most hive-worlds get 5 sentence of lore."

[celest dome]

Gothrul always seemed the most intreaging

Other wise the Elysian ones or Harkoni, don't remember which

[warm notch]

Why don’t they write whole novels over the trillions amount of worlds owned by the imperium of man? Are they stupid?

Idk that sounds like awful worldbuilding

./s

[storm jungle]

Lmfao

this is where if you are in the GW office you get kicked out the window

💀

[spark zenith]

There’s a planet in the imperium called Birmingham

The most well written planet aside from terra itself

[storm jungle]

[near wasp]

Like almost half the books ive listened to take place on terra

And no im not listening to the heresey

[storm jungle]

lmaooo

[near wasp]

All those books take place during or near the opening of the rift xD

[green loom]

Dudes I think I'm making it

[near wasp]

Yeah?

[green loom]

Joseph I'm gonna redo your pilot guy when I'm done this week

Just learned a ton

[near wasp]

Oh?

https://tenor.com/view/grinch-smile-grin-devious-evil-scheming-gif-24073832

[warm notch]

Ew

Never thought I’d see The Grinch 60 FPS 4k interpolated

That’s genuinely

🤢

[crisp heath]

Whatcha mean he's gorgeous

[warm notch]

🤮

[crisp heath]

Totally a slanesh demon. I mean the waves of straight, just "Ugh, F#€k ME Daddy Dom energy" amiright?

Or amiright

Just the perfect mix of revolting and sensual, off-putting and beckoning

Gotta love it

[warm notch]

Ew

I’d rather play Genshin than to 60 fps 4k interpolate

[crisp heath]

Lol

[warm notch]

https://tenor.com/view/the-grinch-evil-smile-creepy-smile-gif-7618321

Much better

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/home-alone-grinch-smile-smug-evilsmile-gif-4792953

Home Alone 2 GO

[green loom]

Dilara I think I'm gonna be able to make actually nice warhammery art within the next few months

[warm notch]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-home-alone-gif-19928774

[storm jungle]

[green loom]

By far my favourite cameo has been Bobby Kotick

It was so fkn random seeing him in a movie about baseball

He was playing soulless corporate dude so ig it's at least meta

[green loom]

Check fanart

[storm jungle]

I did. Big lady 🙏

[green loom]

only 2 hours spent on it too

Very good omens

[warm notch]

It better be toxic Yuri Saltzpyre x Sienna

[green loom]

Please, if I ever do Yuri it's gonna be Greyfax and Celestine

[warm notch]

PLS

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-jotaro-kujo-jojos-gif-7297252

I keep instinctively scrolling down to go the memes, old habits die hard

[storm jungle]

Truly tragic.

[green loom]

Gooooood riddance

[near wasp]

If only people didnt break the rules constantly

Anyyyyyyways. About them heretics am i right

[storm jungle]

Lmao

either way

[crisp heath]

Lol "if only people didn't break the rules. Now then, let's talk about the biggest rule breakers ever!"

Seriously though... wish people didn't ruin nice things...

[storm jungle]

very true to the spirit of 40k

[crisp heath]

Damn... you right though lol

[warm notch]

Omg

Memes was removed????

💀

[queen laurel]

Sister when we were having a conversation yesterday it was already gone way before that

[warm notch]

No no no the memes is still there

The chat timeout is now permanent

Instead of 3 years

[warm notch]

I’m blind unfortunately

[queen laurel]

oh ma fault

[grave sparrow]

so who would Corvus beat in a 1v1 pre HH? Dude's allegedly pretty underrated, but I keep hearing he's a top tier fighter

[green loom]

Corpse starch mentioned

[lapis wadi]

Only Corvus primarch duel I can find is he beat Lorgar... in daemon Primarch form.

So.. yeah he's a scary good 1v1 fighter. Less fancy duelling though so much as fighting like Wolverine except you can't even see him properly

[green loom]

He beat lorgar twice

They fought at Istvaan

[lapis wadi]

Yeah but the more impressive one is the daemonic-boosted time

Hard to actually rank them, but he's definitely at the top tier

[wary geode]

Anyone knows a good place to buy ebooks regarding 40k. I dont tend to read a lot but I wouldnt mind listening to someone while I do other things

[arctic talon]

Audible is best for audio books for 40K

[wary geode]

oh right they are called audiobooks 🙈

confused the 2

any recommendations

somewhat new

I bought the eisenhorn trilogy but havent gone through it yet

as in a physical copy

[arctic talon]

Uhhhh

Assasinorum Kingmaker

Warhammer Crime in general

Do you want xenos and chaos stuff as well?

Or just imperial

[wary geode]

also how does audible function

I can listen to anything I want as long as I pay the subscription

or are there additional costs

[wary geode]

just imperium of man should suffice for now

preferably something in order

unification wars, crusade into horus heresy

[green loom]

You pay for the sub and get 3 points you can trade in for any audiobook

You get 3 for every month

[arctic talon]

Also some audiobooks are free

But I don’t think any of the warhammer ones are

[green loom]

Or you can buy the bucks for raw cash or that

They're also cheaper if subbed

And I mean like half price

[wary geode]

fair

[spare osprey]

The Long Night is pretty good

[dense salmon]

After the first month you can pay 40 or so for 3 credits, which is a good deal if you consider the average audio book is 20 dollars

But you also get your credits for your monthly subscription every month

I hadn't checked audible in some time and came to find 12 credits lol

[storm jungle]

yeah its a surprisingly good deal/site as far as subscriptions go

[wary geode]

thank you for the clarification 😄

[wary geode]

ty 😄

[dense salmon]

I've been listening to various books while I work, but having the audiobook as you read the actual book can sometimes be very nice

[storm jungle]

its a bit dependant on the voice actor too

thankfully most of them are great

[green loom]

I've managed to stick through an audiobook in a few days by drawing

I like them now because typically I listen to music, and I forget to go back and swap songs on YouTube, so I end up just drawing in silence for hours on end

Also the YouTube ad thing doesn't help

[storm jungle]

Just download another adblocker

it worked for me

[green loom]

I've gone through 4

[queen laurel]

Alas the days of ad blocking YouTube has been over

[storm jungle]

Its working for me

i just downloaded the first random one 💀

[queen laurel]

Yeah i think the ad blockers are fighting back

[storm jungle]

yep they are all actively

[hazy pecan]

ublock origin works perfectly

[outer wave]

^ Just update it from now and again when you get Youtube blocking your vids

[storm jungle]

Yup they did an update to combat it lol

[dusky scroll]

I was told here that Necrons aren't ruling the galaxy because most of them are like sleeping beauty and that 1% who are awake are squabbling like game of thrones.
Eldars aren't ruling because that Slaanesh incident.
How big of a threat Orks and Tyranids are to them?

[crisp heath]

Orks and tyranids both are considered the two biggest physical threats to the universe, with nids being first and orcs a close second

Chaos being a non physical threat

[queen laurel]

If united orks are going to pull some serious punches

And they are absolutely going to overload the WAAAGH, it is been said that if they truly unite and stop fighting each other nothing will stop them

It has been shown in the beast with how horrifying they can get

[dusky scroll]

But... won't superior tech Eldar give them the edge?
Or, the planet/star deleting tool for Necrons?

[crisp heath]

Nids 100 percent are the single most dangerous and deadly faction in all of 40k

Not over the nids

[green loom]

Elder are a Stone's throw away from extinction

[queen laurel]

The beast had attack moons that get bigger by eating a planet

Ork tech is nothing to scoff at if they get smart enough to build more advanced stuff

[green loom]

The Necrons have horrible weapons and tech, but there's really not that many of them and they're somewhat fractured/insane

[crisp heath]

Nids are basically 40ks less powerful by like .5 a percent Flood lol

They are insanely, obtuse powerful and overwhelming in mass, and as far as we know, there is so much more coming

[queen laurel]

Smart too, while yes most of the time they ain't no technician these guys are still capable of pulling some quite impressive tactics

[crisp heath]

The only thing the Flood really has on the is the reality warping power and tech

I'd say they're equally smart

With potentially 40ks being smarted do to it all being one being

[dusky scroll]

Can you rephrase this sentence...? I didn't understand due to lack of knowledge.

[queen laurel]

I will say the flood is smarter on that regard considering that it literally convinced forerunner ai to turn on its creators

[crisp heath]

And not multiple separate minds

[crisp heath]

So you know the flood from halo?

Tyranids are basically that

But slightly less powerful

[queen laurel]

Yeah the flood makes tyranids look tame

[crisp heath]

Kinda

[dusky scroll]

and what's "the beast" thing y'all mentioning?

[crisp heath]

I'd disagree. The flood is literally a god like intelligence. Every single nids is the same mind. Every one. Whereas the flood has multiple separated minds.

That only have their own intellect and experience

[queen laurel]

An ork the size of 10 meters, and was the largest in the setting, he is incredibly smart and his orks can speak perfect english, basically gothic