40k-lore-chat

[crisp heath]

They embody the IG the most imo, about as much as the Cadians do perhaps

[undone zodiac]

My favourite part was that instead of demolition veteran having detonator i gave him jerry bomb

[crisp heath]

Just otherwise normal humans totally willing to throw their lives away in the meat grinder

[dense salmon]

normal in physicality, but they're the elite fighting force

the guard is to the PDF what something like

[crisp heath]

The guard in general is more interesting to me than space marines and above

[dense salmon]

MARSOC is to the marines

and a few regiments have even further elite units

they're..., elite-er

like kasrkin for cadians

[crisp heath]

The PDF is more like the national guard while the militarum is like the federal army

[patent ivy]

I feel bad for MARSOC cuz the military almost treats them as a joke

Been trying to get rid of them the past decade

Not the servicemembers, but leadership

[crisp heath]

There’s not a whole lot of lore on PDFs but as far as I know they’re meant to be sent off to the guard when needed

[dense salmon]

the PDF are the chaff that weren't up to snuff for the guard

usually what the planet keeps after tithes

they're still an effective fighting force

[undone zodiac]

I really want guard regiment who's stick is just improvised weaponry like molotov cocktails and jerrybombs

[dense salmon]

savlar chemdogs

[undone zodiac]

Theirs is stealing

[dense salmon]

they'll absolutely convert a broken down chimaera into an explosive battering ram

they improvise stuff a lot

but yes they also steal

[undone zodiac]

Romanian speedrun

[dense salmon]

catachans improvise too

but their rules and units are too outdated to be useful in tabletop

you're throwing by building them right now

[patent ivy]

Whats the name of those flying baby things

[dense salmon]

cherubs?

[undone zodiac]

Its kinda intreating that bottlebombs dont appear much in guard

[patent ivy]

Very interesting creatures

[undone zodiac]

In necromunda and orks however do

[dense salmon]

people are generally not allowed to tamper with their equipment much

which is why you don't see many improvised weapons

in the guard

[undone zodiac]

Amasec bottle and promethium

Jerrybombs are my absolute favourite of the improvised explosives. Would fit catachans perfectly

[patent ivy]

Setting the clocks back got me tired at 7

Rather this than setting it forward though

[undone zodiac]

I hate it because its dark by 16.00 by now

I go to work its dark and i get back its dark

[patent ivy]

Hah

[undone zodiac]

Love living in the arctic

[crisp heath]

Lol lordy. I mean it isn't much different down here I guess, it gets dark early too. But I doubt it probably gets as dark maybe. I'm more against that cold yall got up there. I'm cold blooded. I need my sun and heat lol

[patent ivy]

I love the cold over heat

[undone zodiac]

Above +10 degrees c is too much

[patent ivy]

I like layering outfits so it works a lot better for me in the f/w seasons rather than s/s

[crisp heath]

Nut uh nada. I can always get naked. At a certain point, I can't add more layers with out coming out like

[patent ivy]

Could wear thinner items but thickness is preferred

We got any people from PA in here?

[crisp heath]

I'm from the buckle of the Bible belt, unfortunately

[patent ivy]

🤣

I'm in CA currently, but I do plan to move to PA eventually

Hate it here haha

[crisp heath]

I don't blame you lol

[patent ivy]

Half my family originally from PA so I've spent a fair amount of time out there

[crisp heath]

The Bible Belt should be called the Carnage Corset lol

[patent ivy]

Brah

[languid salmon]

looks like they have a need for speed and fresh coat of red paint

[patent ivy]

What was that film series they made you watch in Driver's Ed? Red Asphalt?

I think so

[crisp heath]

They made you watch a film in your driver's Ed lol?

[patent ivy]

Yeah ahah but it was only like 30 mins of it

[crisp heath]

SO during one battle against the orks there was this one modifed Leman rus tank and no matter how many times the imperials took it out of commison the orks got up and running the next day ...when the Imperials finally captured the thing they found it did not even have an engine just a crude drawing of one.

Weird. Lol we did like a written test a few times, some practice runs, then we sent it

[patent ivy]

Did you take it at your HS or through somewhere else

[crisp heath]

Private org, but this was also a good decade or so ago, soooo

[patent ivy]

Yeah I had mine through the school

[crisp heath]

🤷‍♂️

[patent ivy]

They have at least 6 films though

Cuz I got the chance to view the 6th hahah

Or maybe it was the 5th

Been 5 years almost

[jade holly]

If they wasting their time walking slow that’s a waste of gas and good money

If God didn’t want me to run over slow pedestrians he would not have given me laws that make it legal for me to run over pedestrians

[dense salmon]

maryland makes us watch like

10 films

i can't remember all of them

but if you know the meme of the guy who says "this guy moaned at least this loud... oooaaauugh"

that was one of the required films

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yovHCFCAe7k&ab_channel=rocketraccoon19

believe it or not maryland still fucking sucks to drive around

[patent ivy]

Heh

Unfortunately did not get any funny movies

Also made us watch a movie on the effects of drugs in health

[worldly gull]

are sisters suppose ot have white hair? Are there other colors?

[patent ivy]

Not all of them have that

Just one order does the white hair

These helmets remind anyone of Bioncles as well?

[worldly gull]

tbh alot of warhammer reminds me of bioncles LMAO

[patent ivy]

Hahah

[worldly gull]

There's like a robot race that looks like bionicles (I have no idea the name lmao i barely know human lore)

[lapis wadi]

boncl

[jade holly]

I remember watching this in driver’s Ed

[broken zenith]

barraki dlc when

kalmah class plz

[storm jungle]

Sir the Mortal Kombat discord is over there

https://tenor.com/view/garden-shred-mortal-kombat-baraka-gif-5493283

[queen laurel]

To be fair there is a space marine chapter that are literally just Tartakatans

[storm jungle]

TRUE

fits even more since in MK1 they now made being a Tarkatan a disease

geneseed'ish enough i guess

[arctic talon]

The Judge calls The Fanatic stupid lol

incredible

[snow fern]

The pot calling the kettle black

[queen laurel]

i mean it's hell of a disease to be able to have retractable bone swords and sharp teeth, you can even launch these bone swords at high speeds

[snow fern]

I do respect the Judge defending Ogryns having souls though

[arctic talon]

The Fanatic is the only zealot that doesn't know High Gothic 💀

so I'm assuming thats why the Judge calls them stupid lol

[storm jungle]

Judge is extremely based in a lot of things

[arctic talon]

but it is very much the pot calling the kettle black regarding

[storm jungle]

motherfuckers saying ogryns dont have souls, ill break their fucking SPINE

[arctic talon]

being an idiot lol

[storm jungle]

also yeah like

the zealots are all not too educated

maybe MINUS Judge

he seems like a very humble holy man compared to the other two zealots

[arctic talon]

The confirmed to know high gothic characters are Judge, Loner, Agitator, and Savant

Since they all have voicelines regarding it

[snow fern]

Judge talking about how the other rejects are like a misguided family to em is the sweetest convo in the game

[arctic talon]

Or melk’s like high gothic lol

[storm jungle]

It works because Judge is the least fascist zealot in the cast lmao

hes very much critical of the failings of the Imperium while still venerating Big E

[arctic talon]

Savant says that Melk’s high gothic is near incomprehensible 💀

[storm jungle]

Bri'ish Moment

[arctic talon]

When the Judge complains

About melk saying their high gothic sounds bad lol

It’s so funny lol

[storm jungle]

its even funnier since Melk is voiced by Bardin's VA

[arctic talon]

Lol

Loner knows high gothic because they insult the fanatic not knowing high gothic lol

[storm jungle]

KEK

yeah Loner is very fucking educated, probably self-taught

[arctic talon]

And agitator knows high gothic because they say that the Judge’s high gothic sounds fine lol

[snow fern]

Loner psyker knowing high gothic is hilarious

[arctic talon]

The Loner seems incredibly well educated

Despite their uh

attitude

[storm jungle]

Like i said hes definitely self-educated.

i know people like that a lot

[arctic talon]

Inb4 nobles son or daughter

💀

[storm jungle]

LOL

[arctic talon]

That’s why they’re so whiny about manual labor

[snow fern]

Loner must have met some interesting people working with gangs and dodging witch hunters

[arctic talon]

And they know so much lol

[storm jungle]

Yeah his name implies a lot

[arctic talon]

But more then likely self taught

[storm jungle]

because he very much knows entirely how uh

[arctic talon]

They’re a loner

[storm jungle]

imperial society works

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[snow fern]

Loner’s awareness and Savant’s optimism are great

[arctic talon]

All the Psyker voices are great

[storm jungle]

minus Female Seer

her old lady voice is 💀

[arctic talon]

Female seer I’m very lukewarm on

[snow fern]

Seer seems to like everybody and is kinda sad how bad their dream is to other people

[arctic talon]

Seer is great

Also the fact they aren’t allowed a knife on board the ship

[storm jungle]

Seer is a lot funnier if you imagine his Beloved as either a nice warp daemon that is just bored or an actual shard of Big E.

[arctic talon]

while the other psykers are lol

What did the seer do

[storm jungle]

We dont talk about

the Bite of 87

[arctic talon]

Lol

Loose cannon is a fun personality

Even if they’re like

An even bigger psychopath then the other veterans lol

[queen laurel]

a loose cannon?

[snow fern]

The cadian voice is so hilariously serious, and it’s great how everybody just makes fun of them all the time

[storm jungle]

Yeah you should listen to his uploaded voicelines on youtube

hes very much a tough guy with a gold heart in there

the fact that he actively fought in the Fall of Cadia very much jaded him

[arctic talon]

Lol

[arctic talon]

He loves the ogryns

Which is great

[queen laurel]

Yeah well yes it can be annoying that he doesn't shut up about cadia it's going to be understandable why you keep talking about it, if you're a soldier who fought in there as the world destroyed itself

[storm jungle]

"You shot me boss!"

"MY BAD BIG MAN!"

[storm jungle]

Also yeah this

just like real asshole friends you gotta get used to them

then you realise they are fun, just jaded

lol

[queen laurel]

Canadian regiments are the ones that are recognize the work with ogryns right

[arctic talon]

There’s also the ambush interaction with the ogryn

Which is really funny

[queen laurel]

Most promotional images

[arctic talon]

The ogryn with the bone’ead implant

Mentions that there’s no ambush yet and they’re watching

[queen laurel]

Ogryn wear cadian related stuff

[arctic talon]

Then the cut throat tells the ogryn to keep them informed

And then 5 seconds later the ogryn says “glad to report there is no ambush yet sah”

[queen laurel]

Also the interaction of him assuring that he totally did not hear Hadron watch brawler

extremely giga funny

[arctic talon]

Lol

[snow fern]

Both Savant and Judge just noticing how the bone’ead implant might be faulty is always funny when I hear it.

[queen laurel]

it's not just faulty it's straight up cooking his brain

Like Brawler said sometimes it smells like straight up cooked meat

[arctic talon]

Yeah that implant should

Be replaced

Like now

[patent ivy]

Is the Cadian guy the one who doesn't want to talk about the Guard

[broken zenith]

rip

[warm notch]

Professional also doesn’t

(Male Professional to be exact)

[soft thunder]

It just dawned on me. Tertium, nurgle, the number 3

[broken zenith]

omg

[soft thunder]

anyways yall think this is like an emblem for the city of tertium?

[warm notch]

Oh huh

Yeah probably

I wonder what the significance of “3” has with Tertium

Cultural or otherwise

[soft thunder]

It was a hive made from 3 major cities i think?

[warm notch]

Maybe there are two other sister cities 💀

[merry steppe]

what's weird is that its not hastily drawn out.

[soft thunder]

ya it's still all speculation around that still. Everything suggests Tertium is the the major settlement on the whole planet. Maybe some desert nomad cities, but nothing major.

[soft thunder]

It's from the Throneside map entrance, it looks like it's some kind of tarp or covering some construction scaffoldings. At least that's my impression, it's just kinda covering windows or w/e

[covert geyser]

pretty sure there's at least one other hive isn't there?

[soft thunder]

All the propoganda says there isn't, but there there's our reject's mission gossip coming out of no where

so we have no idea, but all the images of the planet only show 1 city, Tertium

1 big city sprawl in a sea of orange desert

[covert geyser]

okay, so, looking it up

Tertium, as in "tertium quid", describes something that is related to, but is distinctly different from, two other things, usually opposites

perhaps there are two smaller cities that were settled in opposite directions?

[merry steppe]

I find it strange how we are only one vessel to deal with an entire nurgle plague. Even though we see different colored guard, compared to the red ones we see on ship I did hear voice lines that we (the players) are deployed to do things so that the actual soldiers have room to do the nasty stuff

Not sure if its linked to the city at all, if the planet has other cities on it.

maybe the vox channels talking about xeno sightings, could be another faction entirely

[broken zenith]

need ordo sepulturum smh

wheres officio medicae

MEDIC

[covert geyser]

i believe the blue guard are local guard/pdf loyalists that come from tertium/atoma

[broken zenith]

imagine deathwatch class

or even better, xenos mercenaries for radical flavour

[soft thunder]

Ya there's like 460+ Moebian regiments across the giant Moebian sector, I assume they are all tangle up in thier own messes. Plus the Fringes are flaring up in M41, something that hasn't happened to this big of a degree since M46, i think.

[broken zenith]

gib kroot plz

[merry steppe]

lets just hope the grey knights dont show up

cause them im leaving lobby XD

[broken zenith]

rip

[merry steppe]

I dont know the power scale of a daemonhost relative to a space marine

[soft thunder]

it's era indomitus so the grey knight got bigger daemons to fry I'm sure

[covert geyser]

depends on the daemon

[merry steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/relief-phew-gif-22113399

[broken zenith]

[covert geyser]

also iirc didn't they stop with (most of) the scorched earth shit after the fall of cadia?

[soft thunder]

no idea, but it's up to the inquisitor as to when they want to try and salvage a cultist dumpster fire planet or just exterminatus it before it get too daemonic to due so. Atoma is pretty valuable though, plus being a world with possible archeo-tech. It's ancient.

and all the moebian steel tanks ppl always yelling about

[broken zenith]

TANKS

hypeeee

[covert geyser]

oh, also, what if they add in a squat class, like how necromunda still has squats

[broken zenith]

imagine stalk tank boss

[broken zenith]

that would be cool imo

ratlings too

and other abhumans

etc.

[covert geyser]

fatshark should make their own abhuman specifically originating in the moebian domain

[broken zenith]

yessssss

[median marsh]

They cant

GW has the final say on any decision

So they'd have to go through hoops of getting GW to agree to that

[covert geyser]

why not

[median marsh]

Because GW is GW

they're really weird with the IP

For example FS had to fight for Saltspyres priest career to have a flail

And GW only allowed it coupled with a shield

[covert geyser]

tbf don't half the black library books create random new species/abhuman strains just for the one book then GW never talks about them again?

[broken zenith]

wai wai

FELINIDS

[hollow falcon]

give us Felinids

[covert geyser]

lmaoooo

[broken zenith]

[median marsh]

Black Library is a whole beast of it's own

[broken zenith]

[median marsh]

Like that one fuggin author that claimed Eldar steal imperium tanks because they're better

[covert geyser]

you know what would be really fuggin funny

kroot mercenary class

[hollow falcon]

Only if we can eat the dead

[covert geyser]

WAIT

kroot mercenaries don't have special abilities of their own apart from eating their comrades when they die. when they do, the kroot gets a special ability based on the class eaten

[hollow falcon]

[median marsh]

That..doesn't feel too fun

gameplay wise

[covert geyser]

just an idea

we can workshop it

[hollow falcon]

just enable friendly fire

[broken zenith]

KROOT

birb

khibala yusra hypeeeee

hungry space birb people

[broken zenith]

feedin time

[storm jungle]

What in the fuck-

[green loom]

Hamwarmer

[queen laurel]

Hey welcome back dilara yeah the chat just had the usual brain Moment

[storm jungle]

[celest dome]

And yet it's not the worst chat

[queen laurel]

Agreed

[celest dome]

General deserve to be nuked

[queen laurel]

yeah it's a battlefield full of monsters that makes a Khorne berserker seem sane

[dense salmon]

Kroot also somehow inherit traits from whatever they eat

When kroot eat catachans they become a lot more rebellious and dismissive of their leaders

To the point the tau had to ask them to stop eating catachans

They really are what they eat

[green loom]

They start mass mutating when eating tyranids yeah?

[storm jungle]

Yeah its not something people know a lot

but Kroot can be incredibly diverse in appearance

we just always see the generic normal kroots because minis lol

the one on the bottom left is literally one of those IRL spiked desert lizards lmao

[broken zenith]

Andy Hoare's 3E 2002 WD 266 (UK)/265 (US)/CA 2003-2004 Kroot Mercenaries army list had an entire Signature Evolutionary Adaptations army wide special rule to represent it, u had Ork Hybrid for Kroot that ate Orks, Sixth Sense for Kroot that ate Eldar for example
https://web.archive.org/web/20070127182723mp_/http://uk.games-workshop.com/tau/kroot-list/assets/kroot-merc-list.pdf

[queen laurel]

I remember that Kroot of course can't eat necrons and tyranids, what other things can't they eat

I only heard them being unable to eat those two

[broken zenith]

3E Kroot Mercenaries Fast Attack choice Vulture Kindred were those that gained wings as adaptation

[storm jungle]

Man these bring me back

[broken zenith]

3E Kroot Mercenaries army list was one of the coolest things ever imo

glad that Andy Hoare still works for GW, albeit for their Specialist Games now

[storm jungle]

Prob better.

the main line has gotten very stale for non-Imperium factions

[broken zenith]

true

[shadow plover]

Necrons are fucking great, shut up

[queen laurel]

Speaking of Kroot, thinking about it there was only really one tyranid bioform that exhibited its abilities

It was just a hive tyrant

The hive tyrant would evolve after eating

[dense salmon]

Imperium eating the past 2 years

But still no new rules or units for catachan

[storm jungle]

YEP

[storm jungle]

Correction

Space Marines are eating

[green loom]

A lot of factions have been eating tbch, the Imperium is just eating fkn

[storm jungle]

everyone thats not a Space Marine?

[median marsh]

[fug]

[storm jungle]

whoops

[dense salmon]

Look at this shit man

[green loom]

Dried sticks

[storm jungle]

"I have a mold mouth and I cannot scream."

[green loom]

[shadow plover]

90% of that look is the less than perfect paintjob

[queen laurel]

Me watching space marines get another model for the 50th time this year

[shadow plover]

same model as the one in front

[storm jungle]

Yeah but issue

most people cant paint this well

[shadow plover]

wait or paint

[storm jungle]

and the models are legit outdated af

[dense salmon]

This is dramatically better but still pretty poor quality compared to the new stuff

[median marsh]

"here's your birthday cake tyranids, and here is your equal attention cake space marines"

[storm jungle]

yeah what V said

when you compared Catas to the new guard models they are lacking

[shadow plover]

of course, but the models are not that bad as people make them out to be solely based on the official picture

[queen laurel]

Yes some models are old enough that they straight up look prehistoric

[shadow plover]

stuff like normal guards men were first in line as they should

[green loom]

I want to make cadians with ponchos/short capes

[dense salmon]

I need a 3d printer

[green loom]

I need chicken

[patent ivy]

we got any veterans in here?

[green loom]

Like, Veteran class?

[patent ivy]

No

[green loom]

I see

[patent ivy]

Today is Veteran's day

I would like to thank any prior servicemembers in here

[storm jungle]

Ah i see, was gonna ask if you mean a 40k vet lmao

[crisp heath]

https://tenor.com/view/band-of-brothers-gif-27205452

[warm notch]

No they can get fucked

Overconfident power sword users that die first then rage quit

🤨

./s

[dense salmon]

Yeah thanks to any vets for their service

[green loom]

WOOO

NEW UPDATE

[winter vessel]

Oh man I loved watching this series as a kid

[warm notch]

Oh gosh

I hope the new map has more set pieces

[dense salmon]

Oh happy days

I'm excited

[broken zenith]

ikr same

[warm notch]

I want more moving parts in my maps >:V

That Archivum Sycorax level is such a standout

Hope the Carnival is the same

[crisp heath]

Question for fellow lore geeks.

Who would yall say out of all the characters in the imperium, who has the most modern sentiments? Like who thinks the most closely like us. Rights. Freedom. Civility. Equality. Xeni-friendly. Lol I know it's like, not really a thing. But who would ypu sau gets the closest to how we think today.

[green loom]

There's an Emporium?

[crisp heath]

Blah you know what I mean 🤣

[storm jungle]

Eldar, almost.

[green loom]

Yeah it's fine I just like poking fun

[storm jungle]

Tau too minus the brainwashing/propaganda

[green loom]

Well including it mostly, we just know about it

[queen laurel]

Yeah for Tau I would go with the farsight enclaves basically

[crisp heath]

Ahhhh she said it!!!!!

Lolol

[storm jungle]

Die

[crisp heath]

Hehehehehe

[storm jungle]

But yeah those two are it

every other faction is very EXTREMELY oppressive

[crisp heath]

But, like specific characters wise

Not culture

[storm jungle]

Uhhh that is a bit harder

[green loom]

Farsight/Eldrad?

[crisp heath]

Though that is interesting and I would agree with those cultures

[storm jungle]

Nah

Farsight and Eldrad are a bit too alien still to us

I THINK it might literally just be Oll Perrson ironically

[green loom]

In the Imperium there's basically no one that even comes close to modern human sentiment

[storm jungle]

^

which helps us nail down things a bit

but my vote would be Oll Perrson

He is just a man though

even if hes immortal

[crisp heath]

Lol, not even like, some of the radical inquisitors? I'd heard there were like, psycher friendly, and xeno friendly ones

[storm jungle]

That depends

[green loom]

They're still inquisitors

[arctic talon]

^

They’re nicer but like

Still you know

[green loom]

The Inquisitors that do care that much have a tendency to

[storm jungle]

like Inquisitors can still agree on some stuff but they still work for the Imperium and agree with its ideals to a point.

[green loom]

Go traitor

[storm jungle]

^

[green loom]

[storm jungle]

Humans in 40k basically cannot be too lenient, both bcause they will get kiled by their peers and for other reasons

[green loom]

Like the one Xenos guy that joined the Tau because he went "Dude the imperium fucking sucks, this is a chance at something new"

[arctic talon]

But the imperium is pretty fucked lol

It’s a death cult

[crisp heath]

Lol down sides of being the good guy I guess. The universe still screws you in 40k

[arctic talon]

I think people overlook that point a lot

But the imperium is a death cult that worships martyrdom and violence lol

[storm jungle]

Like we had a human from the Dark Age of Technology go to an imperial world to ask for assistance.

And they burned him at the stake.

[green loom]

Yeah the Imperium's point was never to last or survive, it's just a huge, bloated whale in it's last, agonizing, long lasting death throes

[median marsh]

was that the Sentient ship story?

[storm jungle]

Yup!

[median marsh]

Man that was a fun read

[crisp heath]

Right but this is kinda a perfect example. Like traitor, vs like chaos turned is different. That's still really similar to human sentiment today, I'd say maybe

[arctic talon]

There are some genuinely good people in the imperium

But they’re few and far inbetween

[queen laurel]

Yeah genuine kindness in the imperium exists it's just overshadowed by most of the things

[median marsh]

that reminds me of the zealot short story

the enforcer there geniunely felt bad for the lil guy

[arctic talon]

Traitor to xenos is at times considered worse to be a traitor to chaos💀

[median marsh]

despite resenting him originally

[arctic talon]

Because you’re a literal race traitor

[green loom]

Dilara I have a question

[crisp heath]

Lol i know, which is mind-boggling to me

[green loom]

Who will we complain about now that meme chat got what it deserved

[median marsh]

i got pinged and apparently blamed for it

despite not going to said channel

[crisp heath]

I don't think I ever went in there 🤣

[queen laurel]

ohh yeah i didn't notice

no wonder the server was rather calm today

[green loom]

I'm maybe partially to blame since i kept reporting shit

[median marsh]

good, whenever i looked there it was some weird shite

[crisp heath]

Was it like, actually bad stuff though?

[queen laurel]

i'm going to honest you keep entering that place like it's a fight pit, amount of times you interacted with the people there I've seen

[median marsh]

well Dilara apparently snipped a nazi there once

[queen laurel]

A good chunk of them are quite dumb

[green loom]

Multiple

Maybe dozens

[median marsh]

amazing

[crisp heath]

Lol slanesh saying it's weird stuff... you know it's freakydeaky

[green loom]

I'd know cus I kept reporting them

[median marsh]

Listen i am a god of excess but even i know the difference between tasteful stuff and pointless mumbo jumbo

on topic of kind people in imperium, i wonder if Cain qualifies as one

he never came off as malicious

[crisp heath]

Lol tell this to Fulgrim please

[median marsh]

Everyone hates fulgrim

[storm jungle]

Almost forgot to post this

Ok Jeff Bezos

[median marsh]

[crisp heath]

Hahahaha

Damn

Welp

[median marsh]

this is something i can see posted by Elon Musk

[storm jungle]

Same, and its not even funny at that point

[storm jungle]

Also prob the subreddit

[median marsh]

[green loom]

Dude have you seen the image from like

A tech company orientation presentation

[median marsh]

my biggest surprise was reddit taking the compensation stuff relatively well

[green loom]

Where it says

That their biggest enemies

Are ethics

[storm jungle]

Yeah like

no joke

these people

would make us all servitors if they could

[median marsh]

im pretty sure Musk is trying with his neurolink stuff

[queen laurel]

sure hope there are people out there that doesn't want this to become real

oh wait

[median marsh]

god those poor monkeys

[crisp heath]

I mean. If we take it to the companies sense... in a way, ethics are their biggest enemy

[storm jungle]

Yep lol

[median marsh]

..whos John Fatshark

and does he know John Darktide

[arctic talon]

They’re distant cousins

[crisp heath]

If they didn't have to care about the impact of their actions, they'd be able to survive much more efficiently and prosperously. It's just like any animal. And a few generations will get really wealthy before everyone gets sick and dies lol

[median marsh]

all members of elusive clan of John Videogame

[median marsh]

one day when this planet fails i can see some company release a report "Despite the death of all life, for a moment we generated incredible profit for shareholders!"

Admech grindset

[arctic talon]

[median marsh]

that kinda makes me wonder

Imperium drains planets dry of resources, but does it process meteorites?

[storm jungle]

Yep!

[median marsh]

since meteors quite often have tons on tons of stuff

[storm jungle]

ANY resources is good

it all goes to forges/wars

[green loom]

Fkn uhh

Graia

Isn't even a forgeworld

[crisp heath]

Oh yea. It'd be fairly stupid of them to let vast resources like that go to waste

[median marsh]

neat, its one of the subjects that interests me since if we can manage to catch meteors its basically almost infinite resources

[green loom]

It's just a big ass moving space station that strips planets and asteroids

[crisp heath]

First person to do it is estimated to be the first trilliinaire I believe

If not more

[queen laurel]

how fast do you think the imperium will collapse moment it isn't fighting something?

I bet faster than the speed of light

[median marsh]

i cant even imagine Imperium not fighting something

[crisp heath]

I'm sorry, that was Jeff Bezos @median marsh quadrilliinaire

[median marsh]

jeez

[crisp heath]

Yea it's an almost inconseptual amount of resources and wealth

[median marsh]

at that point money is basically meaningless

[crisp heath]

Hell it kinda already is for him

[median marsh]

i cant imagine what id do even with a fraction of a fraction of that wealth

[dense salmon]

Literally just a regular dude with regular sensibilities

[queen laurel]

it's easy to be honest

first i would upgrade my PC

[crisp heath]

@storm jungle yes, I forgot to say, I really agreed with this!!!

[dense salmon]

Emperor said "no religion, no superstition, we are SECULAR"

But persson was still catholic

[queen laurel]

The way he punished the religion worshipping him though

that's sure is something

[median marsh]

"should i calmly and rationally explain why this is bad? Nah, burn the fucking place"

[dense salmon]

Emperor would turn a blind eye to religion when it benefitted him in some way

[queen laurel]

yeah straight up incinerated the please

[median marsh]

like Admech

[crisp heath]

You mean the mechanicus, the one he planted in the first place to worship him, and how when he then found them in the future allowed them to continue when he wiped all other religions off the map?

@queen laurel

[queen laurel]

I mean people in general who decided to worship him as a God

The way they are punished is not humane

[median marsh]

he beat the living hell out of Lorgar

[crisp heath]

Didn't that mostly happen after he was interred on the throne and couldn't do anything about it...?

[queen laurel]

And made him watch the world's Lorgar converted into worshipping worlds for him burn into nothing but fire

[dense salmon]

Ironically lorgar's take on the imperial truth is literally the only thing keeping the imperium together in current setting

[median marsh]

yeah, Imperium relying on the text written by one of Arch heretics is some sweet irony

[green loom]

There were always sects of Imperials worshipping him

The Word Bearer spreading their book didn't help

[dense salmon]

The emperor's punishment of lorgar was poetic

It was less "fuck everything you've built" and more liken

[green loom]

But also the guy was a massive glowing golden superhuman so it obviously attracted some negative attention

[dense salmon]

"If you want a god, this is what a god is like"

[crisp heath]

@green loom right, hidden sect. The books spreading made it a major broadband religion

Without it, it would have never grown more then scattered cults at most

[median marsh]

its kinda funny how the vision Horus saw and desperately tried to prevent came true exactly due to his actions

[green loom]

It probably would have

[crisp heath]

@median marsh I think that was the point

[green loom]

The Ecclesiarchy formed immedaitely after the Heresy more or less

[dense salmon]

You know, the emperor always had the ability to choose his appearance

[green loom]

The Religion spread like wildfire

[dense salmon]

He's worn many faces

So for him to descend to planets like a star with a golden aura

[median marsh]

iirc Sisters of Silence could percieve his true form, unless that was retconned

[dense salmon]

How did he expect people to not see him as a God

[dense salmon]

Yes, they can see him for what he is

So could corvus sort of

[crisp heath]

And yet every face he wears, places him on a pedestal to the person he speaks. He is always higher, wiser, bigger, better

[dense salmon]

And really any blank

[median marsh]

Appears as a giant golden man surrounded by light
heals machines with a mere touch
casts spells
"im not a god"

[dense salmon]

And the fucked up part was

[median marsh]

good one emps

[dense salmon]

He actually found lorgar's worship of him charming at first

[green loom]

That was the most blatant example, since he literally appealed to the Mech's prophecy of an omnissiah

[crisp heath]

I fully believe, that at the very least, becoming a God had always been an option. The new book basically flat says it. At the very least. It was and is his back up plan.

[dense salmon]

I think whatever the emperor considers a god is clearly different from what we do

[crisp heath]

And why I think he started the mechanicus so far back in history

[green loom]

It's debatable if the things we think about are even "Gods" in the first place

Like the Custards and Eldar say

There's a fine line between absurdly powerful psykers and gods

But they can't tell

[dense salmon]

I agree

[green loom]

So the distinction is mostly moot

[crisp heath]

We can say though, that he is seemingly capable if feats equivalent to the chaos gods from whatever ethereal Space he occupies in the warp

[green loom]

If he presents himself as and does godlike things, it doesn't matter if he's a real one

[dense salmon]

If we consider a God as just some incalculable force that inspires faith and devotion

The emperor is absolutely a god

[crisp heath]

He makes saints and other imperial daemons and such, he creates miracles and visions, he influences and in many ways is similar to them

[dense salmon]

What is a miracle to us is just a process to the emperor

God of the gaps

[crisp heath]

Maybe, like perpetuals, it's simply the closest aproximation to what he is

And since it's the only label that fits, it's the one that's used

Lol honestly to clear this up, 1. We need more books. And 2. We need an incredibly powerful psycher or other arguable/questionable god figure to fight a known God figure and get their ass whooped, so that there is power scaling outside just the greater demons and whatnot lol

Basically we need another war in heaven, modern 40k style

Which I'd be kinda down for lol. Somehow get each faction in a last, all out 6 way war between the Eldar, Humanity, Necron, Orc, Tau, and Tyranids. Just everybody all at once lol, with all their biggest and best on display. Then we'd have a true power scaling lol

And probably the dopest fight scene ever before the tyranids inevitably devour everything except the necrons, who then probably looked at each other and halfed the galaxy between their two factions lol

[crisp heath]

Gulliman: To think I would be standing side by side with a Hereitc.
Abbadon: How about a brother then.
Guilliman: YEs...I could live like that
The Last stand of Humanity united against the Tyranids.

[spare osprey]

more like an over achiever nephew

[broken zenith]

enslavers would wipe the floor with everyone else smh

[spare osprey]

uh huh

and i bet the khrave and rangda woulda too

but i don't think most of em could say much atm

HUMANITY FOREVER BITCH

https://tenor.com/view/ogvhs-woo-wooo-woooo-wooooo-gif-22674107

[dense salmon]

I've always wondered how heavy a chainsword would be

[green loom]

hold on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gj8pAN7Y7E&ab_channel=AWEme

Not perfect but close enough

[cloud grotto]

Honestly I don't even remember what kind of material they make half the stuff in 40k out of

[green loom]

For marines it's tons of adamantium and ceramite

[cloud grotto]

@forest orbit i wanted to add to our discussion

cus i feel like i was doing a really bad job of getting my opinion across

[green loom]

You're saying serving the Imperium is better than serving the literal embodiments of malefic evil

[cloud grotto]

imperium of man = evil, but not everyone in the imperium of man is evil. if there's a hive fleet or a cult force approaching my planet i'd rather pick up a lazgun and join the guard to try and fend them off rather than die in the street

cus at the end of the day, if there were no innocent or good people in the imperium, then the fact that the imperium kills its own people wouldnt be a problem to begin with

[green loom]

Which isn't wrong per se

But the Imperium actively breeds said servants

Is where the issues arise

[cloud grotto]

not necessarily intentionally

[green loom]

Yeah intentionally

It's an oppressive dystopia

lol

[cloud grotto]

cus even the most miserable imperium servant will be worse off under chaos

they just dont KNOW that

but the imperium creates / maintains the situation which leads to those people being deceived by chaos

[green loom]

That's debatable, but if they do well the cycle will just go on

[cloud grotto]

absolutely

[green loom]

Well it's hardly deception
"I give you power, kill in my name"
The dreg working in a shitty factory will 100% take it up

[shadow plover]

there are other options besides serving the imperium and joining chaos or being mauled by a xenos

[green loom]

Point is

The Imperium actively pushes it's lower subjects

[cloud grotto]

probably not for most people

[green loom]

They have no reason not to deny them

[cloud grotto]

well the main reason is because they dont KNOW the fate that awaits them

[storm jungle]

Thats when you get when your entire population is literally slaves

I'd rather die than do anything in the Imperium lol

[green loom]

The spire noble doesn't care about you and would be way happier if he could just servitorise you and lock you away so he didn't have to have you stinking up the hive

[spare osprey]

nahhhhhh they're fine

[cloud grotto]

exactly yeah

[green loom]

Said spire nobles will fall to chaos anyway because 99% of them are power hungry narcissists

[spare osprey]

glorious purpose (even being turned into a zombie to clean toilets)

[storm jungle]

Yeah a big point in 40k is humans are extremely fallible lol

People are driven to chaos because their life is shit.

trading one evil for another evil.

[cloud grotto]

i mean

[storm jungle]

Okay so

[cloud grotto]

noble scions with 'great' lives turn to slaanesh

[storm jungle]

lets say you are just a regular joe

working on a factory slave job

your mom gets servitorized because she wanted to steal some bread for you to and not starve to death

this is just one example of how these people live lol

[cloud grotto]

no yeah i know, i'm not sayin thats okay either

[spare osprey]

see the smart thing to do

[storm jungle]

Well yeah none of it is.

[spare osprey]

kill people

turn them into the corpse starch lads

boom

food

2 birds one stone

then you eat the stone

[cloud grotto]

i guess i just can't be of the mind that i'd rather be dead, obviously the idea of one person making a change for the imperium for the better is laughable but if the G-Man thinks that we can do better then i believe him

[green loom]

Well yeah we've got the benefit of hindsight

[cloud grotto]

but nothing can get better if we're all soulslaves to an otherrealm tentacle god or torture-juice for a knife ear

[storm jungle]

The most based option is to join a rogue trader tbh

[green loom]

In the Imperium very few people know what the hell is up

[storm jungle]

You are still capitalist assholes but at least it's not that bad

ish

[cloud grotto]

see thats the thing if it it WAS up to me

[green loom]

Also Bobby's ideal society is still an aristocratic hellscape meritocracy so

[cloud grotto]

i'd probably go for the Lamenters

cliche i know

but they stand up for those little guys that everyone else walks over

[green loom]

You'd go for the marine supremacists who rebelled once?

That bit tends to get glossed over granted

[cloud grotto]

Tbf they rebelled against the Inquisition

[green loom]

No they rebelled against the Imperium

[cloud grotto]

Because of the Inquisition

[green loom]

It was a full war, not just quistors having fun

[cloud grotto]

and would this make them bad ?

if anything

even more based

[green loom]

Well considering what they were doing

Namely enslaving populations and installing marines as overlords to assault the maelstrom

Ye

[cloud grotto]

I guess I don't know that lore rip 💀

but i'm pretty sure they dont do that anymore

[storm jungle]

It happens 💀

[green loom]

Well no there's like 5 of them that aren't dead

[cloud grotto]

maybe i can just be an ultramarine

probably still not a nice guy but

[broken zenith]

space sharks supreme

[cloud grotto]

i'm at least big enough that a commissar can't just pop me for not stepping on a civilian or something

but nah i apologize if yall thought i was just advocating for the imperium's government that is not at all what i meant lol

more just that even if humanity is as boned as it is in 40k i would want to die in a fight (and hopefully not in an industrial incident)

[storm jungle]

Yeah nah its fine

its just that we get actual fascists here with space marine pfps saying genocide and fascism is good

if you meant what you said it like now i dont think people would be that up to your face about it

[spare osprey]

can i be a deathworld farmer?

[storm jungle]

If you like working yes

[spare osprey]

perfectly fine with that

i will have

weird goats

[green loom]

Yeah like Dil said it's hard to tell sometimes

There's people that run in here and say "Yeah I know the Imperium's bad" as a cop out

Then start unironically justifying the most gruesome shit about it like

[spare osprey]

yeah no, no justifying that shit

but i do think they should've carried out the bombing of macragge

[near wasp]

No justifying anything just accept its evil

[spare osprey]

very humanitarian decision

[cloud grotto]

the one inquisitor

[keen stratus]

I have a question about the last update theyre putting into darktide, isnt like anti imperium to have an enterteiment district on the city? like, isn everyone suppose to be 100% work oriented, and they shouldnt get entertaiment cause pleasure is a slaanesh thing?

[cloud grotto]

who like destroyed a planet instead of letting nids eat it

it reminds me of uh

arthas

culling stratholme

[cloud grotto]

i think its more of a criminal underground kind of district, not an actual dedicated entertainment district

the lower levels of hive cities are full of criminals who dont work at all

[keen stratus]

would make sense

[shadow plover]

pleasure districts aren't outlawed either

[keen stratus]

would be nice if the corruption was slaanesh in there tough, fits the whole carnival thing better

[shadow plover]

brothels, bars the deal

[keen stratus]

but pleasure is a slaanesh thing

[cloud grotto]

i would love to see another chaos cult as an enemy

[shadow plover]

excess is slaanesh thing

[cloud grotto]

frankly i'd love to see ANYTHING as a new enemy, even just a new nurgle cult

[spare osprey]

Kryptman?

[cloud grotto]

im not picky

[cloud grotto]

ye

he literally pulled a culling of stratholme

[keen stratus]

but pleasure may lead to excess

[spare osprey]

mhm

[shadow plover]

your average imperial worker is high as a kite or drunk on some amasec the hours not working to keep some joy in living

[cloud grotto]

i mean me drinking milk could lead to me excessively drinking milk

[shadow plover]

it's not flat out chaos worship if you want to have a little bit of fun

[cloud grotto]

criminals dont care and also dont know

[keen stratus]

yeah, i think the district should be infected by slaanesh then rather than nurgle, or does everyone just got aids?

[cloud grotto]

its probably just been overrun by the nurgle uprising

so it'll probably be less pleasure more pustules

[keen stratus]

i still think slaanesh would be more fitting

if it is a carnival

[cloud grotto]

oh its definitely not like

ferris wheels and cotton candy

thats probably just ONLY a name

it would make sense for there to be some slaaneshi presence though

i mean hive cities are supposed to have a problem with slaanesh cults forming at the uppermost layers because of indulgent nobles, would make sense for it to trickle downwards

[keen stratus]

wait the imperium has nobles?

how

arent all people suppose to serve the emperor

and like

rather fight or do something useful

[near wasp]

They are serving the god emperor by supressing the poors

[tulip brook]

it's a parody of worst aspects of real life politics

[storm jungle]

^

Its also medieval europe'ish

[tulip brook]

of course they have nobles

[storm jungle]

"We were chosen by god to rule over you"

[keen stratus]

yeah, cause the imperium its supposed to be like a communist dictatorship

[near wasp]

Its a neo feudal autocracy or some other word salad

[tulip brook]

wat

[keen stratus]

right i forgot about that idiot

"My child will never do anything to me"

Horus After trying some of that chaossussy:

[grave sparrow]

I'm really hoping the Carnival Zone gives us that Arts and Farts vibe Tertium's supposed to be known for

[cloud grotto]

the imperium has a TON of nobles

its hard to classify its government type but definitely not communist

[grave sparrow]

Probably Religious driven facism?

[cloud grotto]

its autocratic, theocratic, supposedly 'imperial' except it doesnt really have an emperor

[crisp heath]

It does though. He's just Schrodingers Emperor, both alive and dead lol

And always out of sight

[dense salmon]

Even the roman empire had governors who were treated like local nobility

Most monarchies have compartmentalization

A king has someone to run every county or duchy

The imperium of man is no different

Hell, guilliman was basically a mini emperor of imperium secundus for some time

Your average planetary governor is probably a count

Someone running a domain would be more like a Duke

[cloud grotto]

Well

There are actual counts and dukes

[dense salmon]

True

It mostly depends on where in the galaxy you are where terms may vary

[crisp heath]

You can say it's either an Empire, or an absolute monarchy. The emperor is the uncontested High Ruler, no matter his state.

The High Lords of terra are an appointed ruling council, the most senior adept of whatever institution has earned a seat on the council serves as a high lord, and they rule as a proxy for the emperor while he can’t do it himself.

Some Adepta have permanent seats, such as the Officio Assassinorum and the Adeptus Administratum. The Custodes Captain General also sometimes serves on the council.

From there, individual world's are feudal, with one major note, in that an Imperial Planetary Governor is not necessarily the actual ruler of a world, he is an administratum adept responsible for the tithe. As far as the imperium is concerned, the only job of this individual is to keep this one landing pad clean and its warehouse supplied for when the ship that takes the tithe arrives. And if they don't carry out this singular, simple task, the adeptus arbites are legally empowered to beat them to death and install a replacement.

If the Planetary Governor decides to install themselves and their family as a hereditary monarchy ruling the planet, that is their business. Just keep the tithe going.

[dense salmon]

The same can be said of a count, someone given a section of territory whose responsibility is to collect taxes and provide levies

And, should need arise, defend said territory from invaders

The levies in this case are local armed forces and PDF

Some etymology unique to the moebian domain is they refer to armed service members as "lasmen"

[crisp heath]

Its almost similar in a way to America. Here me out. America is both a democracy and republic. At the national, or broad level. It works one way, at the state level, it works another. Now go 40k. The interplanetary ruling government is A "Senate led" Absolute Monarchy/Empire, while on a planetary level, they are allowed to rule themselves in whatever way they see fit, so long as it serves the ruling government.

In a sense, it's a very dualistic governmental system, that arguably allows a vast amount of freedom to its citizens. It's just that that freedom was turned dark by corrupt officials, horrible record keeping, and all the other atrocities accumulated in the 40k uni.

It's be like if the US government allowed any state to run itself literally any way it wanted as long as they don't worship hellish monstrosities and paid their taxes. As long as the king of Rhode Island paid his taxes, he could rule it any way he pleased.

And if he didn't, Uncle Sam the president sends assasins to kill him, then installs a new king in the existing states government to keep the tithe working.

[warm notch]

I love Bureaucracy.

I imagine if your bureaucratic department gets forgotten they’ll overlook your position and still pay you

Probably be a funny outcome

[green loom]

This literally happens lol

I think it's Cain's regiment

That was merged from two

That still gets supply shipments enough for both regiments

[warm notch]

Gives them a cushy life in the end

As long as they lay low

[crisp heath]

Why didn’t they drop a medipack on the emperor, are they stupid?

[dense salmon]

Emperor pinged a 4 charge Medicae and didnt use it

Must be a martyrdom build

[warm notch]

He’s going to die in the next room and make the whole team lose the match

This is so sad

[green loom]

The Hive is called Tertium

What does Tertium mean

[plush mason]

"some third thing similar to two opposites but distinct from both"

its most likely named that due to it being 2 seperate hive cities that developed into each other and became one

[green loom]

It's just three

[plush mason]

not in the English dictionary lol

here is the Merriam-Webster definitions. "Tertium" is just part of "Tertium Quid"

[dense salmon]

That's actually a cool observation

[plush mason]

yeah that might be

its ether that or its due to the city being 2 cities fused into one

well the word doesnt mean 3

it means third something

so its something that is part of a group of 3 but doesnt exactly fit in that group

[marsh berry]

Does the skull symbol ever appear in game at the moment? I saw it stencilled on a wall in today’s teaser trailer but I can’t recall ever seeing it out and about in a mission

[green loom]

On Valkyries

[marsh berry]

Ah okay

[plush mason]

yeah i think its our warband symbol

[green loom]

I think it's the Symbol for Tertium

[plush mason]

could be

[green loom]

Our Valkyries have rosettes

The PDF ones that come to replace us on Consignment Yard and Enclavum Baross have that

Tertium means "The Third" Roughly, and it's got a 3

And it has two spires of alternate height at the top

Wedged into a stylized skull/aquila

[storm jungle]

It appears on Valkries, PDFs, and in many environments in the game

since its the Hive's main sigil

[plush mason]

yeah the 2 spires of the original hives

[green loom]

If you look at the holo of Tertium on the ship, you can see the two towers

[plush mason]

they are called the twins iirc

[plush mason]

i swear i remember seeing it on the side of the stormraptor but i must be misremembering

[storm jungle]

Its on the side of the ones landing when you leave missions

ours has the Inquisition logo

[plush mason]

yeah must be why i misremembered it

[lapis wadi]

Inquisitor, a second valkyrie has crashed into the Twins

[winter vessel]

MY INQUISITOR, A SECOND OGRYN IS COMING!

[lapis wadi]

||Promethium can't melt plasteel beams||

[green loom]

You can find them around tertium too

[lapis wadi]

That would imply it's the symbol for Tertium rather than one for the warband or the game in general

[plush mason]

yeah

[storm jungle]

yeah it is the city's sigil

[plush mason]

the imperium loves sigils

seems everything has one

oh btw, did the traitor in the latest vox sound like the captain from the prolog to anyone?

[storm jungle]

It was a bit more old man voice'y

and daemon stuff doesn't seem like the Moebian's thing

[plush mason]

true

[winter vessel]

All in all, hopefully they’re a boss that isn’t a complete push over

[crisp heath]

How do tyranids fight imperial knights?

I’m hoping that knight would be way bigger then anything they have but I’m not positive

[green loom]

They get bigger tyranids

[storm jungle]

^

[lapis wadi]

Nooope

[crisp heath]

God

[storm jungle]

Also knights like titans are mostly doomed the moment they get swarmed

its literally a david/goliath situation

[lapis wadi]

Also you throw enough acid at anything and it'll stop working

[green loom]

Heirophants and even Hive Guard(?) are probably more than enough to deal with them

[storm jungle]

Or just have one climb/sneak into the cockpit and eat your face too 💀

[crisp heath]

I thought they had like some shield that roasted things that get into range

May be way off though

[storm jungle]

yeah but

like with most sci-fi

damage a shield enough?

[winter vessel]

I’m thinking more of those flesh eating Beetles from the Mummy series

[storm jungle]

it goes down

and needs to recharge

its the same reason why while titans are OP they NEED escort

a single titan would just get shot at from every position and just get wittled down from attrition

knights are even worse

[lapis wadi]

The hive has biotitans, knights aren't going to pose a problem

[crisp heath]

Man I hate the tyranids so much they are just better in every way

Annoying

[hollow falcon]

just use bugspray

[crisp heath]

They use it on you the next day

[plush mason]

all big war machines need escorts, hell a capital class ship irl never leaves port without some escort ships

[winter vessel]

It’s the phrase “I hate the guy but he’s good”

[crisp heath]

Scoliosis

[hollow falcon]

😷

[nocturne crest]

If fatshark ever announced a sequel to darktide, but set within the t'au sphere of influence instead, what client races would work best for that game?

[lapis wadi]

That is a bunch of questions in one

So are we playing AS or AGAINST Tau, also I don't know how much info there really is out there

[storm jungle]

To be fair

you want lore accurate gameplay against tau?

Spawn 6 snipers

[green loom]

Maybe more like 60

[lapis wadi]

Also some drones to harass you

And a couple ragers for kroot

[storm jungle]

sounds fun to fight right

Not.

[nocturne crest]

As the t'au

[storm jungle]

oh yeah never happening

lmao

[green loom]

Tau would be against Orks

Or

And this is funny.

Nurgle

[lapis wadi]

Well dang, you've got fire caste, kroot.. and I'm running out of known client races

[green loom]

Vespid, those psyker bears

Humans

[lapis wadi]

Yeah but

[green loom]

Demiurge?

[lapis wadi]

Stingwing would involve flying mechanics

[nocturne crest]

The squats.

[green loom]

Or are they votaan now

[nocturne crest]

T'au votaan.

[lapis wadi]

Votann is more like a nation I think, there's Squat/Demiurg populations in Necromunda and Tau space that may or may not be Votann

[nocturne crest]

Do the t'au allow human psykers to serve?

[green loom]

Probably

They don't have the tendency of the imperium to butcher everything

[nocturne crest]

True.

[green loom]

Unless they're fourth sphere ig

But they got reeducated so it's fine

[nocturne crest]

Then again, small problem with setting a t'au based spin off from darktide.

They don't really have a lot of weapon variety compared to the imperium.

[green loom]

There's enough

[lapis wadi]

"Why would we have another weapon type, we have the best one?"

[green loom]

Especially if you do Tau plus aux races

[nocturne crest]

Then again, maybe the t'au let their client states keep their old weapons as emergency surplus

[green loom]

No they produce them by default

Iirc

So human worlds under Tau authority will still use lasguns and stuff I think

[nocturne crest]

I wonder if the t'au could improve some imperium weapons.

[crisp heath]

Absolutely

Lol that likely wouldn't be very hard...

Especially given time to backwards engineer, with Tau's advancement speed, it wouldn't need long

[green loom]

The Tau as a base weapon use what's essentially slightly weaker but way more stable/advanced plasma

[lapis wadi]

They could probably optimise a plasma gun at least

Since they're so used to working with similar tech

[crisp heath]

What these guys said for sure

[lapis wadi]

Lasgun.. well, I'm not sure how much more you can really push that weapon

[crisp heath]

Lol extremely far

[lapis wadi]

More power for less shots is more of a preference

[crisp heath]

It's a laser gun shooting lasers. They just need amped

[lapis wadi]

And charge-packs are goddamn wonders of technology

[crisp heath]

Lasers can be Hella dangerous

[dense salmon]

Tau are also in a technological golden age

They are progressing in current setting

Not stagnating

[crisp heath]

@lapis wadi but it doesn't necessarily have to be less shots. That could be one of the advancements. More power, and concervation.

[dense salmon]

Their main disadvantages are that they are small in number, physically weak, and lack psykers

[lapis wadi]

Where would the extra power be coming from? A backpack unit?
Then you just have a hellgun

[dense salmon]

The sector of space their empire inhabits is like

A small domain by imperial standards

[crisp heath]

Possibly. Or more powerful cells

Mini nuclear reactors Lol who knows

[green loom]

And also very isolated/peaceful as of the end of Damocles

[lapis wadi]

If they manage to improve imperial charge-packs I'll legitimately be amazed

[winter vessel]

“Peaceful”

[dense salmon]

While they aren't at peace with the empire they also aren't in open war

Just territorial disputes here and there

[green loom]

Yeah because they can't get to them, the gulf is on fire

[dense salmon]

The empire also has bigger fish to fry

THE TAU ARE NOT FISH

Weird blue cow people

[green loom]

Ye

I still wonder where that comes from sometimes

[spare osprey]

idk sounds like what a fish would say

[crisp heath]

Wouldn't their closest biological equivalent be like... a cow fish hybrid? Lol they're the Mantees/dugong of 40k

[lapis wadi]

Where is the fish part coming from even

They're not aquatic, nor have scales or fins..

[green loom]

I think their vehicle names?

[spare osprey]

Manatee moment

[green loom]

But like, they have hooves

[lapis wadi]

In that case Eldar are birds half the time

[spare osprey]

tbf with their ears they might as well be capable of flight

dumbo style

https://tenor.com/view/flying-dumbo-big-ears-disney-cartoons-gif-10526539

[plush mason]

t'au aircast have thin wing membranes on their arms lol

[crisp heath]

Lol desert manatees, but dammit, I can kinda see it so I'm keeping it

Lol it's a mantee with feet instead of a tail

[green loom]

Hollow bones as well ye?

[plush mason]

yup

because they use to be a flying sub-species iirc

[crisp heath]

Tell me these don't look similar lolol

[plush mason]

like how drunk/bored do you have to be to think the thing on the right is a hot chick?

[crisp heath]

Very, but I'm not a pirate and that's not the question lolol

[plush mason]

also that would be wild to see, a bunch of sailors catcalling a sea cow

[spare osprey]

like 12 hours

at least