40k-lore-chat

[dense salmon]

Im pretty sure some chapters treat the failed aspirants somewhat well

They serve, just not as marines

Depends on the chapter

[tulip brook]

spending their lives serving "what they could've been"

[lapis wadi]

Tabletop doesn't have special units for Astartes serfs does it?

[near wasp]

I mean somebody has to bring ammo to the front and a marine sure isnt gonna take the time out of his long day of purging when he can just yell at some failed aspirants to do it

[patent ivy]

For that primarch with the faulty butcher's nails, is that all that wiring he got going on?

[tulip brook]

all the later nails are modeled after his

they are all "faulty"

[rigid charm]

what's a good starting point to get into the lore of this game?

[lapis wadi]

Feels like a reasonable addition to the game, infantry unit of aspirants and failed aspirants, not augmented but they've gone through training that makes the Schola Progenium look tame.
Give 'em a +1 or two over standard guardsman and bump the point price up a lil

[patent ivy]

But all that wiring behind his face are the butcher's nails, right?

[near wasp]

Yes

[patent ivy]

Okay

[lapis wadi]

I'll never understand why the Emperor didn't "Okay SHIT that's messing you up uhhh... okay I can spare a year or two to fixing this"

Even if he had 0 love to his sons, that's "Damn they ruined my tools, I'd better clean it up"

[patent ivy]

Freaky mod

[near wasp]

He couldnt fix it

[patent ivy]

Looks like he's just a cyborg at this point

Skin mask

[tulip brook]

see? wire hair on all

[lapis wadi]

The master biomancer and ultimate psyker couldn't remove 'em?

[near wasp]

Nope angrons brain was completely fucked

[dense salmon]

Parts of his brain were literally removed to make the nails fit

He was fucked

[near wasp]

Big e called arkan land for help because he couldnt do it himself

[dense salmon]

And what was left of his brain had either begun fusing to the nails or had been scrambled

To the point it couldn't be stated where the brain began and the nails ended

This was due to angron's unique biology as a primarch

[lapis wadi]

Now I'm just amazed the Emperor kept him around

[near wasp]

Honestly angron should of been mercy killed

[lapis wadi]

"Wow you're irreparibly broken and a ticking time bomb."

"Also your legion is now wanting this?"

[dense salmon]

Malcador saw angron as nothing more than a broken tool

[lapis wadi]

"Also I am aware of the existence of Khorne"

[dense salmon]

If malcador had his way angron would probably have been euthanized

[lapis wadi]

"This is fine"

[near wasp]

I mean having a bomb you can just send to a world when it needs to disappear can be useful

[dense salmon]

Which is a shame. He was a healer before that power was stolen from him

[patent ivy]

What's the gold dots on some people's foreheads do/for

[dense salmon]

He likely would have been a noble and kind soul like vulcan

[lapis wadi]

Oh I'd absolutely have pushed him into a suicide mission

Martyr him intentionally

[dense salmon]

Iirc space marines wear them as a symbol of their time served

[patent ivy]

Ah okay

[lapis wadi]

Service Studs they're called

[near wasp]

Each stud is 100 years

[patent ivy]

😦

[lapis wadi]

There's not a strict timeframe for what each one means, but that seems to be the average (maybe codex) length

[tulip brook]

check the pinned message in book club channel if you like reading, if you don't, luetin's channel has a playlist of detailed videos I can suggest, there are so many different lore youtubers too, amber king, remembrancer, majorkill, weshammer... pick your poison

[lapis wadi]

gold studs are worth more I think

200 or something

[dense salmon]

For reference the average lifespan of a space marine is a millenia

[rigid charm]

any quick guide which can get me upto speed on dark tide lore -

[lapis wadi]

Exactly why they decide to mark this by putting a rivet in their skull is unclear

[near wasp]

Id be certain big e tried

[dense salmon]

Some live way longer like dante

[lapis wadi]

Skill Issue

[rigid charm]

or videos which explain darktide

[dense salmon]

Weshammer

Has a good video

Beginner lore for darktide players

[rigid charm]

okokok

tx

i have seen that so good shout

[tulip brook]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gYZ5ZazxjY the guy literally have that on title kek

[lapis wadi]

Man, I wonder what the setting would be like if Malcador had been listened to more

[arctic talon]

Even more authoritarian

[lapis wadi]

Man, that's a worrying thought
The current Imperium is a compromise

[dense salmon]

Malcador was a spy master who started the assassinorum

[arctic talon]

Malcador founded the assasinorum and inquisition lol

[dense salmon]

He was a master of political intrigue

[arctic talon]

Indeed

[lapis wadi]

Well yeah, you do need assassins at that level of statecraft, and an internal investigative service

Like absolutely no judgement against him for founding those, completely necessary

[arctic talon]

But my point is he was like

[patent ivy]

Freaky ogryn

[arctic talon]

Very authoritarian

[dense salmon]

Malcador is like

Space CIA

[arctic talon]

He believed in an iron fist

Even more then the emperor

[lapis wadi]

Even in a noblebright setting of knights and lords, you need a spymaster

[tulip brook]

roided up supersoldier assassin temples debatable

skinsuits is a must tho, you can't skip those

[dense salmon]

The assassinorum is unbelievably devastating and brutal

[lapis wadi]

Considering what the Imperium fights.. you do sorta need super-assassins

[dense salmon]

Lord help you if an Eversor is deployed to your planet

[lapis wadi]

Like what's an average dude gonna do to assassinate a Farseer?

[arctic talon]

Eversor’s are completely unnecessary lol

[dense salmon]

Eversors are grimdark dialed up to 15

[arctic talon]

There’s very few instances when you actually need them

[dense salmon]

Even if you kill one they are walking nukes

[lapis wadi]

Okay yeah Eversors are a bit much

[dense salmon]

Dont get me wrong

[lapis wadi]

Effective tho

[dense salmon]

They are badass

But if one is deployed

They basically have accepted that planetary collateral is acceptable

[patent ivy]

What do you guys think of the Interex? Pretty interesting lookin species

[dense salmon]

Even space marines get cut to ribbons by eversors

[lapis wadi]

Interex were both human and aliens

[tulip brook]

even callidus think they are way better than space marines

[lapis wadi]

Do you mean the uhh

Kinebrach

[crisp heath]

1. Kronos is a part of Leviathan sort of 2. I am not saying Kronos will be but CHAOS will likley be otherwise kronos being in Sanctus would make no sense.

[arctic talon]

Kronos being in Sanctus makes perfect sense

It’s much safer at present

And it allows for them to bulk up their forces

[arctic talon]

Tbh with what they’re armed with they could kill one no problem

[patent ivy]

Yeah but whaddya think about em

[lapis wadi]

Hmm

monke

[patent ivy]

Hmph

[desert dust]

You need them to send a message.
Mainly don't fuck with the throne.

[arctic talon]

You can just murder them with brute force the old fashioned way

With an off world army

[dense salmon]

Them and the civilian population when they get to fighting

[lapis wadi]

Okay honestly I'm curious if their balancing of chaos stuff might have worked long-term in a vacuum, but I doubt it

[crisp heath]

Also for those who thionk Malum is not canon I mean this guy is canon.

[patent ivy]

That drawing is?

[arctic talon]

Why are you pinging me with this

[patent ivy]

Wait

[dense salmon]

Is that meant to be sly marbo

[arctic talon]

That isn’t even related to what I said

[patent ivy]

This is Avatar

[crisp heath]

Accident I was going to reply and got distracted.

[near wasp]

[arctic talon]

[crisp heath]

Then forgot what I was going to reply so I posted this but forgot to take you off reply.

[crisp heath]

Yes

[arctic talon]

[lapis wadi]

How do they... recruit Eversors?
Might explain the Temple's existence some.

"Well we have a hyper-skilled killer but they're a bastard. Indoctrinate him, stuff him with drugs, and throw at a heretic base."

Waste not

[arctic talon]

They recruit them from the same pool as other assassins

[dense salmon]

Usually extremely violent killers

[arctic talon]

Any of the people in the pool

Who are super violent

Get chosen for it lol

[dense salmon]

Aren't the eversors specifically the hyperviolent murderers?

[lapis wadi]

Well okay then, so if you fail the mental tests they can throw you to the Eversors

[tulip brook]

literally throw them to enemy

drop pods with stasis

[arctic talon]

Yeah if you’re too violent/insane you get chosen as an eversor

[dense salmon]

An eversor is quite literally a one man army

[tulip brook]

they wake up and choose violence

[arctic talon]

Also ironically eversor’s are capable of friend and foe identification

[dense salmon]

And if they die, they go out in a big boom

[arctic talon]

And rational thought

They just simply do not care

about collateral

[dense salmon]

Many eversors are actually quite charming

[arctic talon]

Unless they’re working with other assassins lol

[near wasp]

Thats even scarier

[dense salmon]

At least the few we read of

[arctic talon]

Yeah

They’re pretty fun characters normally

[lapis wadi]

So you can release an Eversor in a cultist base, flag their prisoner as friendly, and come in the next day to literally everything dead but a terrified, blood-soaked prisoner?

And distant screaming

[arctic talon]

Yeah

Pretty much lol

[lapis wadi]

Though wow I kinda assumed Eversors were like.. borderlands junkies even when not on the job

[near wasp]

Your mark might because paste as well

[arctic talon]

There's an eversor who sees a crying civillian during a mission

[storm jungle]

They get put under cryo-sleep

[arctic talon]

and mentions how killing them

would make it easier for them to approach

so they just kill them lol

[storm jungle]

LMAO

good guys btw

[arctic talon]

Eversor's have a complete and total lack of humanity compared to the other ones

tbh

[near wasp]

Who ever said the assassins were good guys

[lapis wadi]

Man I totally agree with the Imperium they are bad ass and manly :))))))))

[dense salmon]

An eversor is so chemically and mentally conditioned that they become literal killing machines

[arctic talon]

Like at least the other assassins have like a shred of humanity left

[dense salmon]

Emphasis on machine

[tulip brook]

never doubt the guy in spandex

[dense salmon]

The other assassin temples are tame compared to the eversors

I have a vindicare in my army

[tulip brook]

culexus sounds just as terrifying

[lapis wadi]

Bet the Admech are a little proud of the Eversors
"Man we really turned that guy into a hyper-deadly killing machine at the expense of all else. We're really efficient."

[storm jungle]

Vindicares and Calliduses also actually show personality

the two assassins in Kingmaker are fucking hilarious

The Callidus does not stop shit-talking how much of a loser the Vindicare is

[arctic talon]

"what are you chemically dependent"

[storm jungle]

KLDSFKLDS

[near wasp]

Guess im picking up kingmaker to add to my growing collection of unread books

[storm jungle]

PLEASE do

[arctic talon]

Kingmaker is so good

highly recomend it

[storm jungle]

its such a fun book

literally zero grimdark

it has violence and gore sure but its fun

lol

[dense salmon]

There's an ork book thats similar fun

[arctic talon]

its prolly one of the least grimdark 40k books

[dense salmon]

Can't remember the title rn

[storm jungle]

Yeah id describe it as like

James Gunn's Suicide Squad movie

[arctic talon]

there's dark humor to an extent

well

a lot of dark humor

[storm jungle]

like where they kill an entire camp of rebels, then they realise they were the people they were suppose to be helping out

that kind of humor

[arctic talon]

god

[storm jungle]

fucking love that movie

[near wasp]

That sounds so funny

[storm jungle]

its not in the book but it has the same vibe

https://tenor.com/view/peacemaker-nothing-like-a-bloodbath-to-start-the-day-bloodbath-start-the-day-massacre-gif-24261858

also you can finish it in like

2 days

[arctic talon]

also tbf the Vindicare is sort of a loser lol

compared to like

[storm jungle]

lmao he is true

[arctic talon]

other Assasins lol

[storm jungle]

hes just trying to give a fucking briefing and the Callidus is just

"Why are you in charge of this mission"

[lapis wadi]

If the Vindicare were better at their job Vraks wouldn't have happened

[storm jungle]

also hey

that Vindi tried his best

[arctic talon]

he used the wrong bullet

[patent ivy]

Peacemaker was a pretty good show

Can't believe season 2 still hasn't dropped

[arctic talon]

this cover is great as well

fun how they're hanging out on a knight helmet

[patent ivy]

Reminds me more of Star Wars

I think its just the sleek suits

[arctic talon]

the suits def don't feel super warhammer

[patent ivy]

Warhammer loves that bulk

[lapis wadi]

Assassin looking through his scope as the round impacts the refractor field and the entire city turns towards his position:

[storm jungle]

I think its the font

that is LITERALLY fucking star wars

[patent ivy]

TRUE

[storm jungle]

like down to the curved box around it LMAO

[patent ivy]

I didn't even make that connection until you said that

[storm jungle]

yeah it bugged me forever

[patent ivy]

Probably registered subconsciously

[arctic talon]

OH SHIT YOU'RE RIGHT LOL

[arctic talon]

and if you want another reason to read Kingmaker The Calldius calls Guilliman a ||blue bastard||

[patent ivy]

Hah

[dense salmon]

Vindicare are my favorite

[patent ivy]

Did the 1st edition make the emperor seem as bad as the more modern ones do?

[dense salmon]

One of the best hero killer units

[dense salmon]

A lot of 30k lore was not fleshed out in that time

[lapis wadi]

Wasn't he barely mentioned?
Like it was all Badab war

[molten swan]

wym by bad?

[patent ivy]

Evil

[verbal path]

1st edition was wild and goofy.

[dense salmon]

40k was barely on its feet

It was a spinoff of rogue trader

[storm jungle]

if we are talking about like WAY back 90's 40k then the Emperor was basically a background figure yeah, basically big war-man that got injured during the Horus Heresy (which was like a single sentence) and put on a more wackier golden-throne

[lapis wadi]

The war of Badab

[storm jungle]

the Imperium was even MORE comically evil back then

[dense salmon]

And the lore wasn't regarded very seriously

[patent ivy]

Ah okay

[molten swan]

the 90's was a dark time

[storm jungle]

but they were also a satire on uh fascist britain

[arctic talon]

Imperium was even more comically evil

[storm jungle]

its why space marines were psychopaths

[arctic talon]

while also less evil

[dense salmon]

For example the first inquisitor was named

[patent ivy]

How so?

[arctic talon]

at the same time

[storm jungle]

and also arresting people

[dense salmon]

Obi wan Sherlock

[arctic talon]

Obi Wan Sherlock Clouseou

[molten swan]

yeah a lot of the lore back then was really goofy

[verbal path]

They also used shuriken catapults.

[lapis wadi]

Who discovered a planet of definitely-not catpeople

[molten swan]

Looks at you, Pimp World holding mutant cat people

[green loom]

40k lore is still stupid goofy people/it just take it seriously

[dense salmon]

Space marines were literal meathead barbarians in 1e

There's a game from the 90s where a commissar bosses space marines around

[storm jungle]

It was a parody of Britain pop-culture in a lot of aspects, a lot of people that made 40k also really hated Margharet Thatcher and thought England was becoming too uptight and fascist, its one of the reasons why the Space Marines were constanstly invading places and shooting punk-looking people having fun and doing silly stuff.

Same reason how the aquilla was also basically WW2 Germany inspired look-wise lol

[patent ivy]

Ah hmm

[storm jungle]

a lot of people say "Nooo its the european historic double-headed eagle!!!" but like no

GW had an aquilla infront of their HQ once

you can guess why they put it down

because the locals kept saying its the "nazi building"

[verbal path]

[storm jungle]

EVEN the city taxi-drivers

its why the warhammer logo is now this

[verbal path]

Imagine being a criminal in modern 40k and the Space Marine shows up to be a cop.

[patent ivy]

Bro that it too funny

[lapis wadi]

I mean arbites aren't much better

[molten swan]

It could be worse, you could get an Arbite

[patent ivy]

Got punk rockers from the 80's hahahahaha

[lapis wadi]

Not space marine but still Judge RoboDreddCop

[verbal path]

Behold old 40k

[dense salmon]

Sex drugs and rock and roll

[patent ivy]

Was the old logo the Aquilla as well?

[storm jungle]

Yep

[molten swan]

it sucks we have an enforcer and not an arbite for the retinue, but a corrupt arbite would be pretty rare to have as a reject

[dense salmon]

Old tribes artwork is very reminiscent to old 40k

[storm jungle]

the aquilla was in a lot of promotional/marketing material

it has slightly become rubbed off on more official products

but its still usually there

[verbal path]

Pretty much. Arbites are very serious business guys. The FBI to the Enforcers police man.

[lapis wadi]

I don't think you can have psyker-arbites, can you?

[patent ivy]

Damn he definitely looks period appropriate 🤣

[molten swan]

yeah

there are psyker arbites

detectives sometimes are psykers

[lapis wadi]

Oh no

[patent ivy]

I used to be really into punk rock

Think I've mellowed out of it though

[dense salmon]

Old tribes art

Of a diamond sword

[patent ivy]

Damn

[dense salmon]

Made in the same era as 40k

[near wasp]

I mean having ghost sense and future sight might be useful for hunting criminals

[patent ivy]

Dope drawing

[verbal path]

They got pretty toned down afterwards

Then GW released this bad boy recently as a throwback miniature

[patent ivy]

Thats cool

[arctic talon]

he's fun as an aniversry mini

scupt is nice

[patent ivy]

How much they charge

[verbal path]

Too much

[arctic talon]

25 pounds

lol

[verbal path]

$40.

[patent ivy]

Is he a named character or just a guy

[verbal path]

Just a dude.

[dense salmon]

They do the same with the goff rocker around christmas

[verbal path]

He's a fancy anniversary miniature

[arctic talon]

^

you don't buy him unless like

you want a fancy guy

[patent ivy]

Crazy mane he got going on

[verbal path]

He's a good test of your painting prowess.

[patent ivy]

If you showed me him before I learned more about the Imperium I would not think they are bad guys

[storm jungle]

yeah an actual proper noise marine looks a lot worse

[verbal path]

Ya, goofy noise marines were quickly shoo'd away for actual horror

[patent ivy]

Yikes

So I assume these guys must be Chaos variety?

[lapis wadi]

Oh no they're perfectly friendly normal humans, guy on the right is Jeff

[patent ivy]

🤣

[lapis wadi]

...ye they're Slaaneshi chaos space marines

There's a cool story on their creation too

[arctic talon]

they like loud noises

if you couldn't tell

[verbal path]

Mhm.

[patent ivy]

What kinda gun guitar is that

[storm jungle]

Its literally just

a guitar

[patent ivy]

Boolter

[storm jungle]

but has a gun on the end

[patent ivy]

Ah

[storm jungle]

Yeah their gimmick is really basic

[lapis wadi]

𝕋ℍ𝕀𝕊 ℚ𝕌𝕀𝔼𝕋 𝕆𝔽𝔽𝔼ℕ𝔻𝕊 𝕊𝕃𝔸𝔸ℕ𝔼𝕊ℍ

[verbal path]

Its a really loud guitar.

[lapis wadi]

Look someone had to

[arctic talon]

Do not give a noise marine the aux cord

[verbal path]

It attacks with loud sonic waves or something. Look up the Sonic Blaster

[storm jungle]

Really interested to see what their new range will be like

mfers have been ignored since 2006

[lapis wadi]

Alas the Imperium seems to have forgotten sonic tech

Mostly

[arctic talon]

Admech uses it

[verbal path]

Update Eldar Warp spiders. They're still from 1994

[arctic talon]

But that’s it

[arctic talon]

No

[lapis wadi]

I think there's a couple admech, maybe a sister?

[arctic talon]

I’m gona give mine more beer

[patent ivy]

So this guy from back in the day, was he supposed to be a Chaos marine then too, just without the transformation?

[lapis wadi]

They just need power and maintenance, like discount melta or something

Good logistics

[verbal path]

Ya, that's just what they looked like back then. Old 40k was REALLY goofy.

[dense salmon]

What happens when you give a slaaneshi marine the aux: https://youtu.be/tHDZlMhOUYI?si=IPKpqMIWcIishFP4

[patent ivy]

Ah

[lapis wadi]

Even goofier than what you're thinking

[patent ivy]

Just imagining Chaos marines to be causing chaos but not because of some warp god

[patent ivy]

Huh???

Ah hell nah

[rose thorn]

Memes aside those banners in the back are bad asss

I love that sword and rose

[lapis wadi]

Would make some cool heraldry for a homebrew chapter

And deep down you'd know where its from

Think if I ever did have the disposable income and decided to go SM I'd have to go homebrew, coming up with my own dumb story would be too tempting

[storm jungle]

Hack into and take it over but that was never going to go anywhere

the webway itself was already responding to his incursion by cutting off paths and locking the Imperial forces/Custodians in as per Master of Mankind book

[dense salmon]

There was potential, magnus ruined it just as the work began

The truth is we simply don't know what the human webway project would have looked like

[storm jungle]

it was still a fools dream

and like basically impossible

You can't really ever reliably use webway tech

[dense salmon]

The warp, and by extension the webway, are fickle and capricious

[crisp heath]

So why are those Emperor's Children dressed like Ultramarines?

[dense salmon]

That being said, given enough time I'm sure the emperor could have made something sustainable with magnus, malcador, and other powerful psykers

[dense salmon]

LOL

[storm jungle]

💀

[lapis wadi]

I assume he has some kind of plan for that, but never got to the point where he could give himself admin powers

[storm jungle]

He basically is a walking talking Gary Stu so wouldnt surprise me

"I have the ability to now make paths within the Webway using my neuro-god-psychic powers."

https://tenor.com/view/monday-typing-monkey-working-hard-funny-animals-type-writer-gif-12177139

^ BL writer

[green loom]

Dilara 🐳

I'm gonna make people angry soon

[lapis wadi]

The Golden Throne has some weird stuff in it too, wouldn't surprise me if it was a webway control booth of sorts

[storm jungle]

Lmao

[green loom]

[storm jungle]

hol' up

[lapis wadi]

Honestly, just accept you'll never rule the entire galaxy and just use ether/grav drives or warpskimming if you must.

[hollow falcon]

na

[storm jungle]

the fate of every wannabe conqueror basically

just stick to what you got you morons

[hollow falcon]

never settle for less

[crisp heath]

I meant no offensive with that joke I just saw space marines in copromising posioins and I thouhght "Emperors Children"

[green loom]

[storm jungle]

Yeah there wasnt any issues, you didnt have to delete it

[rose thorn]

Oh The yeah just checked the black ralon, the whole box is 980 poinys

[dense salmon]

Given the emperor's own ambitions for the human race

[rose thorn]

Black talon*

[green loom]

You cna probably guess what it is

[dense salmon]

His ruling at the council for nikaea set a horrible precedent

[storm jungle]

Im very interested and I can guess

If you want refs let me know

[crisp heath]

Also it seems that both I have no Mouth and I must Scream and the Robocop movie surived the Dark Age of Mankind.

Imperium: We beliver that true AI is an abomination and an affront to mankind
Also Imperium:

[green loom]

Do send

[dense salmon]

The war with the Iron men has a very butlerian jihad from Dune vibe

[crisp heath]

Those new necrons came in and I have exciting news

[storm jungle]

Prob because it was what they stole it from

[crisp heath]

Their legs are broken

[storm jungle]

[storm jungle]

OOF

[crisp heath]

Lmao I'm not mad about it, it's just funny because I had to glue literally a meme tier amount of stuff back together

One of them is still missing half a foot but I'll just act like it's supposed to be like that

So considering how many mech walkers are used in the 40K verse I am suprised this does not happen more often.

Dark Angels meme incoming

Flesh Terarers > Dark Angels.

I mean that's just factually incorrect but not what I was getting at

‘Some kind of sub-level here,’ reported Daellon. ‘Descending.’

‘Wait!’ yelled Telemenus, but his warning came too late. The audio pick-ups brought the sound of splintering woods and crumbling ferrocrete followed by an almighty crash.

Daellon cursed without pause over the vox.

‘Report,’ barked Arbalan.

‘Brother Daellon misjudged the load bearing of some internal stairs, brother-sergeant,’ said Telemenus, trying not to laugh. For once he was glad somebody else was attracting the negative scrutiny. There was a chuckle from Cadmael and a sigh from Arbalan.

‘Daellon, can you climb out?’ asked the sergeant.

‘Negative, a three metre drop at least. The floor will not hold my weight to pull myself up.’

‘No threats detected,’ Telemenus added, his auspex sensors encompassing the long row of huts.

‘Understood,’ said Arbalan. He sounded impatient. ‘Daellon, remain in place, I will signal for an armoury extraction team. Telemenus, rejoin the squad.```

[grave sparrow]

because titans wouldn't be the embodiment of the cool factor if they were subject to physics lol

[crisp heath]

The scarabs turned out nice at least :3

[crisp heath]

Not titans mabye but Sentinels Ravagers Killa Cans.

[grave sparrow]

They got the WAAAGGHH magics to help keep them upright

[crisp heath]

BTW IU found this.

[dense salmon]

Gorgeous

[crisp heath]

That is certainly a well-painted marine

[crisp heath]

Lol "Marine"

I don't really get what the joke here is

[crisp heath]

That you dont know who that is.

Is it supposed to be Caedo?

[green loom]

I think the VA for Caedo made that?

[dense salmon]

He's the MC of boltgun i think

Looks like him at least

[green loom]

I think you should take topics like this to #darktide-memes ngl

[crisp heath]

I agree

Well no we can make this a lore discussion

Which primarch is most likely to own a waifu body pillow and why is it magnus

[dense salmon]

Unironically? Fulgrim

The waifu is himself

[crisp heath]

No because Fulgrim still respects himself even if he fails to respect anyone else

[grave sparrow]

I bet it would be Ferrus. He puts on this hardass facade only to go back to his quarters to his waifu body pillow

[crisp heath]

Magnus exclusively respects others and never himself

[grave sparrow]

she's still waiting for him :'(

[dense salmon]

Magnus is a walking talking example of hubris

[crisp heath]

Liking anime does not mean you are a dengerate worthy of slanesh and also wasent there a head librarian in the smurfs who was Half Eldar.

No, he just wishes he is

Magnus is a tryhard

[grave sparrow]

that sounds like something a degenerate Slaneshi cultist would say

INQUISITOR! THIS ONE, RIGHT HERE!

[dense salmon]

Magnus the type of dude to barter with a warp god and think he is the senior partner of the deal

[crisp heath]

Sir I only like anime approved by the Imperium of man you can search my browising history the only thing I have is JJBA.

Magnus is the type of dude to post Alpha Male memes on facebook all day and then have an anxiety attack because he's late for work

[grave sparrow]

Would the Imperium approve anime?

Actually like... what sort of passtimes do they have other than drinking and board games.

The kids run around playing Thunder Warriors I guess

[crisp heath]

I know there are sports played in the Imperium.

[grave sparrow]

True, but from what I can remember, there's never been anything like a TV, and radios/Vox casters are like news and alerts only

I guess with technology being sacred it would be kinda sacrilege?

[dense salmon]

There are definitely visual entertainment mediums

Ciaphas cain novels reference televised sports and holodramas

[grave sparrow]

Ahh, gotcha. I ain't gone through those yet, still just getting through the HH series

Isn't the Cain series kinda off the rocker a bit though too?

[crisp heath]

Isn't there a running gag across multiple books about there being a play about sanguinius no one actually likes but everyone praises because they don't want to sound heretical

[crisp heath]

THat is usually reserved for nobility Apparently Religious ceremonies drinking and drug use are the common form of recuration in the imperium and Gladiatorial combat depending on which planet you are on.

[dense salmon]

Yeah, I'm just acknowledging its existence

The average imperial probably doesn't have access to that kind of recreation

Well, maybe they do. The average imperium world isn't really that different from ours

[grave sparrow]

Hive worlds are pretty far and few inbetween right?

it's just that since they're important most things happen there so it feels like every planet is a hive world?

[dense salmon]

Hive worlds have insane populations

Hive city tertium has a higher population that real world earth iirc

[grave sparrow]

yeah I think it's like 8 billion or so

[dense salmon]

Thats just one city

[grave sparrow]

which would be pretty insane. I mean the hive city is also absolutely massive

I wonder if there's a hive city that isn't a shitshow. Like relatively clean and has actual greenery in it

atmospheric cleansers and whatnot

[crisp heath]

I know there is game called Scrumball ...however I only heard about it in a Warhammer/RWBY crossover fan fic so tke my word with a grain of salt.

[dense salmon]

The general idea of a hive world is to cram as many people on one planet as possible

These worlds usually pay their tithes in people or in factory production

[storm jungle]

yeah hive-cities are suppose to be always shitty

when you cram this many people into such an unhabitable space it will always go sideways

[dense salmon]

Downtown LA times 1 billion

[storm jungle]

^

[dense salmon]

Houses on top of houses on top of houses

Except the house is more of a broom closet

[grave sparrow]

houses in houses on top of houses

[dense salmon]

Literal sardine can

[hollow falcon]

It also provides good recruits

[dense salmon]

Comfort is an afterthought

[grave sparrow]

does Ultramar have a hive city?

[dense salmon]

I can't remember which chapter, but there is a chapter of space marines that source recruits from necromunda

[grave sparrow]

Imperial Fists

iiirc

[hollow falcon]

And the Night Lords too

[grave sparrow]

and Ultramar does have a hive city that got hit by a black crusade, so def a shithole

[dense salmon]

While no hive city is pleasant to live in, some are much worse than others

Before the war of atoma, hive city tertium is stated in-game to be a thriving hotbed for the arts

[hollow falcon]

depends what your position is

[crisp heath]

Aren't there literal pleasure world's in the imperium

[dense salmon]

Yes

[crisp heath]

I bet their hives are pretty enjoyable

[dense salmon]

A pleasure world wouldnt have a hive

[crisp heath]

I heard Necromunda is an ok place to live.

@dense salmon do we know that for sure?

Idk if a pleasure world has ever been looked at in depth so idk

[storm jungle]

Pleasure Worlds tend to be just palaces on green plains

[dense salmon]

Usually pleasure worlds are given to aristocrats or heroes

[storm jungle]

with like

a really suppressed work-force lol

[dense salmon]

And usually them and their families live on those worlds alone

[burnt maple]

So long you are reasonably high within the hive? Yes.

[dense salmon]

With an army of servsnts

[storm jungle]

since half the nobles are usually hedonistic chaos worshippers

[dense salmon]

There were two soldiers who found an STC that was a slightly better knife design than what the AM had previously been using

[crisp heath]

Ironically its one of the few places where the Imperium and the Rinous powers tend to get along because neither side wants to ruin one of the few peaceful places in the 40K universe.

[dense salmon]

The survivor was gifted a pleasure world

For finding it

[burnt maple]

The Yang one?

[crisp heath]

No the one where Cadia and Steel Drakes end up in Remmaint.

[storm jungle]

yeah thats from Gaunt's Ghosts

[burnt maple]

Maybe I will try that one.

[storm jungle]

its when they find the corrupted STC and one of the soldiers off-handedly mentions it

[dense salmon]

Thanks for reminding me to reread

[storm jungle]

[dense salmon]

I still have my dad's old copy

[storm jungle]

I try

[burnt maple]

Prriv it, k?

Is 2am, gonna sleep soon.

[dense salmon]

One of the yarrick novels mentions a theater where the people of Armageddon would hold plays

So even on worlds where the quality of life is low, humans still find time to pursue art and recreation

[arctic talon]

I mean yeah

It’s a very human thing

[grave sparrow]

oh yeah, plays are pretty common. The remembrancers had a bunch of interesting stuff while on the great crusades too

[dense salmon]

Yes, culture will always persist even in the worst of times

[grave sparrow]

Mofos on prospero would literally go out to like Cafe's and coffee shops lol

[dense salmon]

They would have their food brought to them before they even spoke to a waiter

The psychic staff just knew what you wanted

Probably the best world any of the primarchs landed on

[grave sparrow]

Damn you Leman, Prospero would've been cool as hell in the modern setting

[dense salmon]

Space alexandria

In Leman's defense

He didn't want to sack prospero

[grave sparrow]

oh, Magnus, you aren't answering through your alleged pskyer spy that we're assuming is a thousand son's spy

LAUNCH THE NUKES

like what if Magnus was just takin a shit and forgot his pskyer phone, Leman.

Dude just went nutso because he didn't get texted back immediately

[burnt maple]

It is called not losing sanity. Art usually helps in dealing with stress.

[dense salmon]

A creative outlet

[grave sparrow]

Fulgrim almost murdered a dude because he got his art called "too perfect"

[dense salmon]

The real world British empire would equip its navy with costumes and props to hold plays aboard ships if they were away for a long time

[burnt maple]

Your art may be whatever. A song? Drawing? A list of lewd puns?

Still helps, gives you a place to put your mind to outside reality.

[lapis wadi]

Honestly we should be seeing MORE artwork on the walls of the manufactorums other than cult-sign

[arctic talon]

The mechanicus wouldn’t allow it

[lapis wadi]

Crude murals of the Emperor and his Sons and stuff

[arctic talon]

Desecration of a holy site

[grave sparrow]

I feel like any artword would just be destroyed/vandilized by cultists

[arctic talon]

^also this

Factories directly controlled by the mechanicus are holy temples

[burnt maple]

Eh, true and untrue.

[lapis wadi]

The Gutter, then

[arctic talon]

They’re a place of worship to the machine god already

[dense salmon]

There is a reject voiceline where they mention asking Zola to specifically send people to defend tertium's artwork

[arctic talon]

Yeah should have more stuff around

[grave sparrow]

Zola's the one you save in the intro and was a Tertium native right?

[lapis wadi]

There's also voielines of the enforecer psyker mentioning some religious plays iirc

[burnt maple]

You see, barracks of the poor sods working in manufactorums arent sacred. Nor are whatever halls of a space ship, where thousands of people live, make fucking markets on and so on.

[lapis wadi]

Yeah Zola's the.. head acolyte? She's not an Interrogator but is kinda high up

I forget her title

[arctic talon]

She’s an explicator

[dense salmon]

Explicator

[arctic talon]

She’s next in line to become an interrogator

If Rannick bites it early

Or if she proves herself worthy

[lapis wadi]

Ah, right

I forgot about that rank entirely

[crisp heath]

And more than likely an unknowing genestealer

[arctic talon]

They don’t seem to have barracks they’re retooled closets

[arctic talon]

I’m killing you

[crisp heath]

Lol please?

[arctic talon]

[burnt maple]

Depends 9n manufactorum, you see.

[lapis wadi]

I think the Techpriests wouldn't care about their workers decorating their quarters in their own time, so long as it didn't impact production

[arctic talon]

The manufacotrum we’re going to in game

Doesn’t have barracks

Or living quarters

It has the repurposed closets

But they don’t seem like proper living spaces

[burnt maple]

Forge worlds are MINMAXED to allow barracks and shit.

Hive world? Too many people to afford barracks.

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[grave sparrow]

I mean there's that one area in the Investigation mission where you're in a hab block, place even has showers

[arctic talon]

Yeah the hab block

Should be more decorated

[lapis wadi]

Forge Worlds would make Cities Skylines and Factorio players nut

[arctic talon]

Lol

[burnt maple]

Holy shit.

[arctic talon]

Forgeworld factorio + city skylines

[burnt maple]

Imagine factorio game but 40k.

[crisp heath]

Broooooo

[grave sparrow]

Someone needs to make one in Satisfactory lol

[lapis wadi]

Also Prison Architect

[arctic talon]

The ultimate time sink

[arctic talon]

True

[burnt maple]

Anyway, these wallsSHOULDbe decorated.

[crisp heath]

Can you imagine??? That would be a dope city builder sim

[lapis wadi]

Dear god the amount of work to balance that and make structures look distinct

[burnt maple]

Why they aint? A minor taste that is honestly skippable for all but the biggest lore nutcases.

[lapis wadi]

That said a 40k city-builder sounds fun

[grave sparrow]

I mean environmental story telling is pretty important for players who pay attention to detail

[burnt maple]

It is.

[lapis wadi]

I wonder if Grendyl has other Interrogators

[burnt maple]

For sure.

[dense salmon]

Probably part of a subsidiary warband overseeing the other planets of the moebian domain

As well as other cities on atoma

[grave sparrow]

Like seeing remnants of torn canvases along walls and whatnot would honestly fit the setting pretty well. Maybe some are left relatively untouched

[burnt maple]

^

[crisp heath]

Dude.... I need to know more about Grendyl. And I wonder if the name has any hidden meaning from the og Beowulf tale

[lapis wadi]

Murals of the Emperor either still managing to shine gold in the dim green light or desecrated with the Mark of Nurgle would make sense

[burnt maple]

I would like to remind you it is 2023, not 2005 or so where l4d was a thing.

[lapis wadi]

??

[storm jungle]

I mean Grak is right tho

[grave sparrow]

Thank you, I almost forgot I wasn't in 2005 lol

[burnt maple]

Culture of game-making.

[storm jungle]

theres a lot of environmental storytelling in this game

[lapis wadi]

What does L4D have to do with paintings on walls

[crisp heath]

Lol you mad L4d did it better way back then or something...? It's a valid complaint I don't see how bringing that up meant anything...?

[storm jungle]

Very clearly they meant the spray button

[dense salmon]

You see what look to be makeshift barricades made by either loyalist survivors or the cult

[storm jungle]

[burnt maple]

I am not against your complaint.

[dense salmon]

In a lot of missions

[burnt maple]

I find it sad it is how it is.

[storm jungle]

What it is how it is

[crisp heath]

@dense salmon this I have seen and thought was cool when passing

[dense salmon]

The uh

Train missions

WHatever they're called

[crisp heath]

Made it feel like things happened before we dropped in

[dense salmon]

You see a lot of overturned/ransacked luggage

Like people were trying to escape but stopped by the cult

[lapis wadi]

Oh god just imagine how overcrowded other parts of the hive are now

The areas we explore at least partially evacuated

[dense salmon]

There's a full scale war we dont even see

[lapis wadi]

And all those people had to go SOMEWHERE

[crisp heath]

This

[grave sparrow]

Ooh, yeah probably pretty bad. Folk be starvin'

[burnt maple]

Scarce enviromental storytelling. It is there, where it matters most, yes. But like people said: murals should be popular. Some more specific for culture stuff.

[lapis wadi]

Probably on the corpse starch now

[crisp heath]

I think everywhere is just as screwed, we just see our tiny portion of the war

[storm jungle]

I mean yeah but we go through the shittiest parts of the hive

where you wont see "art" stuff all that much

[burnt maple]

True.

[dense salmon]

The massive hololiths we see in missions are that art

[lapis wadi]

Also just like, conventional graffiti

[storm jungle]

there is some paintings/artwork in metal canvases tho

[grave sparrow]

Environmental story telling peaked at Half Life one, after that it was all downhill 😢

[burnt maple]

Even throneside is said to be pretty mid, lol.

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/hecu-half-life-half-life2-get-real-patrick-casey-gif-23973196

[lapis wadi]

Lil' hivers tagging territory didn't begin only after they became nurgle cultists

[storm jungle]

Hell no

throne side literally has a ton of shit

[lapis wadi]

I hope not literally

[dense salmon]

Throne side is one of the most beautiful areas I've seen in a game

[burnt maple]

I know, but characters say.

[storm jungle]

merchant carts, artworks on walls, churches, pulpits

[burnt maple]

Heard it like 2 days ago, that throneside is AT MOST mid-class area.

[lapis wadi]

OOoh middle class

[burnt maple]

Which blows my mind.

[lapis wadi]

I thought you meant "middling quality of worldbuilding"

[storm jungle]

Yeah the characters mention it in the intro

"This is the middle of the hive, wait till you see the top some day."

[grave sparrow]

where do they live though 😦

[storm jungle]

Uhhh

[grave sparrow]

We don't see no houses in throneside

[storm jungle]

like any rich district IRL

the streets

[storm jungle]

Well we do

[burnt maple]

If this is mid class, what in the Emperor's dusty balls is the top class stuff?

[storm jungle]

its just that everything is locked

[lapis wadi]

Imagine like, white and gold as far as the eye can see, grand marble statues and greenery

[crisp heath]

Look, all I know is now that it's out to Xbox, now that it is relatively working, is getting hype on YouTube and actually being considered one of the better 40k games... all I know is I need more from it. I need actual story, I want dlc. I need Fatshark to actually not be the piece of shit I know it is and deliver.

[green loom]

We're also going through monastery cloisters basically

[storm jungle]

^

[grave sparrow]

Ah, fair. I get tunnel visioned too hard or feel rushed too often to actually look beyond the most obvious things

[storm jungle]

Yeah play on lower difficulties like Sedition

[green loom]

Like they mention the preachers not being there a lot

[storm jungle]

it gives you a lot of time to explore

and look around

[lapis wadi]

Still hits me when I look up and see the roof

[grave sparrow]

and its upside down city lol

[green loom]

That happens everywhere btw

Next time you're on consigment yard

Look up

[burnt maple]

Ikr.

[green loom]

You'll look up, see the roof

[crisp heath]

Bro that would be tripping as hell, Living as a hiver and seeing the underside of the city above you

[green loom]

And also see there's an ongoing air battle and ships in drydock

[grave sparrow]

I really wish more of the maps were naturally darker, give you that feeling that you are in the depths of an urban hellscape

[crisp heath]

I mean, I bet there's tripper parts, but still

[storm jungle]

Theres a reason a track as epic as this is reserved for Throneside

https://youtu.be/w32uLAkqY44?t=59

[burnt maple]

Also, who loves the first 20 sec of music when entering throneside?

[burnt maple]

Emperor guides you.

[green loom]

You could mix this into a killer song

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/piano-piano-on-fire-man-playing-piano-fire-gif-18619744

[lapis wadi]

What locations folks want to see in future? Spaceport? Starch manufactory?

[hollow falcon]

Outside

the wastelands

[green loom]

Spaceport would be cool

We'll probably see Spires before long

[wet sandal]

Ehh

[burnt maple]

Oh I hope.

[green loom]

Tied in with how we're looking for names in the Archivum map

[wet sandal]

Not much out there, believe it or not

[green loom]

I'm betting next update will have more underhive stuff though

[storm jungle]

yeah its literally Generic Desert

[wet sandal]

You can't really make an outside map without losing that 40k flare

[lapis wadi]

I kinda doubt Spires, keep the opulance mysterious and always "Oh it gets better further up", and it wouldn't quite fit the dark gothic look of the rest of the game to suddenly emerge into somewhere like an Orokin Tower

[hollow falcon]

just fill with nomadic mutants and acid rain

[wet sandal]

Inside a hive city? That's 40k. Outside? That's generic shooter #64283

[lapis wadi]

Oooh, idea. What about a desert cave system

[storm jungle]

40k is about presentation tbh

you can easily do it

its what Necromunda Ash Wastes is all about

[hollow falcon]

however, the most important part is: new maps.

[burnt maple]

FINALLY!

[storm jungle]

Luv my Not-Tusken-Raiders

[crisp heath]

Bro hell no

[wet sandal]

Necromunda had baller units, which darktide doesn't, at least not outside it won't

[crisp heath]

They absolutely could do outside maps wym??

It'd be dope too

[burnt maple]

Itwould.

[wet sandal]

Outside map would require a new enemy faction at least

[storm jungle]

I mean no?

[crisp heath]

Massive battle fields you have to weave through, broken mechs

[storm jungle]

Why would it

[burnt maple]

Nah.

[crisp heath]

It'd 100 percent be way doper than the flat no yall are making it out to be

Massive infrastructure in the background

Full views of the hive on the horizon

I can definitely see it

[wet sandal]

Ok so how wasteland are we talking then

Suburbs or desert

[burnt maple]

You are correct. Outside can be amazing.

[storm jungle]

The Hourglass proves this

so

[wet sandal]

Ok if we're counting hourglass as outside then sure lol

[molten swan]

Hive worlds generally turn the world inhospitable outside of the hives, or the world already was inhospitable, def no suburbs, could have big desert like areas with shanty towns or something, but who knows if the cults even out there

[crisp heath]

@wet sandal talks of genestealers coming, that could allow for it

[wet sandal]

That's what I said earlier

[crisp heath]

And there's been talks of inter faction conflict based off their new mechanics

[storm jungle]

Bro

Genestealers

are not

coming

💀

[molten swan]

They’re coming!!!!

[crisp heath]

Could be

Idk

[wet sandal]

Yeah and genestealers are definitely not coming

[crisp heath]

I'd be down for anything new honestly

[hollow falcon]

could even 4 crackheads take on a genestealer?

[storm jungle]

yes

and we arent crackheads 💀

[dense salmon]

We're something alright

[burnt maple]

GOOD MEME XD

[storm jungle]

We're something of uhhh

Suicide Tide

[dense salmon]

Suicide...

Killteam...

[storm jungle]

Lmao god

[hollow falcon]

how so? those dudes can tear through terminator armor

[winter vessel]

We really need another enemy type

[arctic talon]

Squishy

[storm jungle]

The playerbase cant even handle the current enemy types rn, so 💀

[arctic talon]

The melee would hurt like a motherfucker tho

[burnt maple]

Beast of nurgle melts you because it hugs you.

[arctic talon]

And it should

And also lore isn’t equal to gameplay

Bcs then the game would be pretty lame

[crisp heath]

Lol table top anyone

[dense salmon]

A genestealer purebreed would be fucked to deal with

Regular genestealers wouldn't be any harder than the mutated cult of admonition

[hollow falcon]

those guys are fast from what i remember

[arctic talon]

They’re very fast

[dense salmon]

The rejects can handle plague ogryns and beasts of nurgle

[arctic talon]

They’re as fast as eldar aspect warriors

Only saving grace is pure strains are squishy

[burnt maple]

Speaking of tyranids: reminder it is the shittiest faction ever.

[arctic talon]

Most of our weapons would lay them out

[arctic talon]

The Beast of nurgle isn’t lore accurate tbf

[crisp heath]

Bro.... the stuff we already are taking on should be too much for us if it was lore accurate

[dense salmon]

100%

[arctic talon]

It doesn’t have that funny melt aura

[dense salmon]

We should turn into moldy rotten meat being near one

[arctic talon]

Very fun boss however

[storm jungle]

Nah, minus the Beast and Daemonhost its all pretty grounded

[arctic talon]

I’m a big fan of it

[dense salmon]

Just seeing one should infect us with something

[burnt maple]

Ofc it isnt lol

[arctic talon]

The daemonhost also seems to actively be fighting the Psyker

That it’s controlling

[molten swan]

Does the beast give you corruption?

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

A lot

[arctic talon]

The puke

[winter vessel]

Yes

[storm jungle]

especially if you get vored

[molten swan]

Basically the same feature as the melting

[winter vessel]

We

[arctic talon]

It’s prolly the most corrupting

Enemy in the game

[dense salmon]

Corruption in-game can be healed

And it lowers hp

[arctic talon]

Excluding the fucking DH

[dense salmon]

Corruption in lore is like

Permanent mental attrition

It infects your soul

[winter vessel]

I always silently turn at the knob face who pissed off the daemonhost before we get mauled

[dense salmon]

Just seeing a daemon corrupts you to a certain extent

[molten swan]

Theoretically it can be cleansed, but if you give in it’ll infect your soul yeah

[dense salmon]

Though some people are incorruptible

[crisp heath]

Idk too much about permanent, but it definitely is far more sinister and long lasting than the game let's on

[molten swan]

You can fight it tho with faith in the Emperor

[dense salmon]

True

Yarrick is said to have lingering corruption

But the circumstances he was in are

[burnt maple]

Had*

[dense salmon]

Far worse than the ones we see in darktide

[burnt maple]

He ded yo.

[dense salmon]

Totally dead youre right

[crisp heath]

Rip

[storm jungle]

That death-report he had was not sus a tall

[dense salmon]

One can dream though

[storm jungle]

and he totally isnt gonna come back

with a brand new mini

because money

[dense salmon]

He'll uh

Lets just say

[hollow falcon]

Just handwave it that those 4 crackheads have the emperors protection or something

[crisp heath]

Naaaaah nope nada no sus here

[dense salmon]

Gotta catch em all

[molten swan]

Nah yarrick should be dying soon anyway

He’s too old even for rejuv soon

[dense salmon]

Yarrick is pretty fucking old

[storm jungle]

Nah

like people need to understand

nobody dies in 40k unless the plot says so

[dense salmon]

Yeah yarrick could come back at any time

[arctic talon]

Plot said he had to die

But no like

[dense salmon]

Same with creed

[arctic talon]

Big push yet

From GW

[dense salmon]

Og creed not Ursula

[molten swan]

Creed lived but ye

[burnt maple]

What about yarrick-ish skull on Angron?

[storm jungle]

that isnt yarrick's skull

[arctic talon]

Most likely just some comissars skull

[storm jungle]

^

its literally just with an eye bionic

[molten swan]

He’s in stasis, that’s how you really never get killed in GW, end up in Trayzns vault

[arctic talon]

Angron hasn’t been on Armageddon

[storm jungle]

that uh

[arctic talon]

Recently

[storm jungle]

everyone has

[burnt maple]

Fair.

[arctic talon]

He is presently

[dense salmon]

Gotta catch em all

[crisp heath]

Dante feels this so hard

[arctic talon]

Making his way to Armageddon

[molten swan]

It should be pretty easy to tell it’s the bale eye mod tbh

[arctic talon]

[winter vessel]

Walking fast

[arctic talon]

War for Armageddon 4

Angron 2

[molten swan]

Marbo comes to intervene (three wars was the limit)

[burnt maple]

Ghazgul invading chaos for ol' bale eye.

Ah, dreams.

[molten swan]

It does feel kinda weird with the relationship ghatz and yarrick had if they did fake out and not kill yarrick

[arctic talon]

Tbh

[dense salmon]

I remember when darktide released

[arctic talon]

Yarrick has prepared Armageddon

[dense salmon]

People in this server

[arctic talon]

For the future

[dense salmon]

Were begging for a plague marine boss

[arctic talon]

Mmmm

[dense salmon]

You do NOT want to fight one of those guys

[molten swan]

Idk why people want marines lol

[arctic talon]

Rot

[arctic talon]

Mfw they tank repeated plasma in imperial bolter porn

[burnt maple]

Preach.

[arctic talon]

It’s kinda funny

[marsh berry]

Fat Shark where is my space marine class

[arctic talon]

How plague marines are like

Almost never jobbers

And then their primarch is the biggest loser of all

[dense salmon]

The rejects are not at all equipped to fight even one plague marine

[burnt maple]

Next to Fulgrim.

And Magnus.

[arctic talon]

Fulgrim isn’t a jobber

Magnus also isn’t really a jobber

[dense salmon]

Magnus is a jobber

[burnt maple]

Well, true.

[dense salmon]

Daemon prince magnus is at least

[molten swan]

A plasma gun and a bolter would do pretty well against a plague marine, but they’d likely die of some plague before he dies

[arctic talon]

He gets deus ex machina’d

Into losing

But he isn’t pathetic about it

[dense salmon]

Pre-heresy magnus is more impressive

[arctic talon]

Unlike Morty

Morty takes so many L’s

[dense salmon]

Morty gets jobbed by his own patron God

He is rhe quintessential loser

[arctic talon]

It would be a lot of shots tbh

[molten swan]

Then you have the true hero of the siege of terra, Perturabo

[dense salmon]

Dude is in indefinite timeout rn

[arctic talon]

He’s getting the beating of a lifetime

Lol

[burnt maple]

Nurgle always loved Typhus more.

[crisp heath]

Sly Marbo is a perpetual and Ciaphus Cain is a saint.

https://tenor.com/view/ap-bio-burn-revenge-satisfied-happy-gif-11916950

[molten swan]

Perpetual? Please, marbo can’t die

[hollow falcon]

People were just desperate to kill something new

[arctic talon]

Well we got plenty of new stuff to kill

Or

2 big boys

Ig

[hollow falcon]

Only the chaos spawn was added later

[arctic talon]

Oh that’s right

Beast was public beta

I forgor

Also the daemonhost got added

Even though you shouldn’t fight it

[molten swan]

A pestigor could be a cool mini boss

Something like the mauler but tougher and slower

[arctic talon]

Give us a plaguebearer

As a stronger crusher equivalent

[crisp heath]

This is out of left field, but I want more info on the Tau god/goddess. I have some theories, and also like, instant ship with the Emperor, amiright? Like, Sky Goddess 6 Arm Mommy Queen for Golden God Turbo Dad King? Anyone, no, just me?

[molten swan]

Ehh I don’t think they’re that strong, idk how they’d work tbh

[crisp heath]

Lolol

[molten swan]

The Tau god is slavery

[arctic talon]

Plaguebearers are very strong lore wise

They can be a crusher equivalent

Imo

[molten swan]

Def not as strong as ogryn, they’re tanky tho

[arctic talon]

Yeah

They hit less hard

But Tankier

Cause corruption

[crisp heath]

@molten swan and the emperor isn't lolol? They're perfect for one another

[burnt maple]

ACKSHYUALLY.

[arctic talon]

[crisp heath]

Lol they typing up a storm

[burnt maple]

We simply dont know, lol. Did the Emperor even know if slavery was within the Imperium? Dod he care?

[crisp heath]

You know that's scary

[burnt maple]

(no he did not)

[arctic talon]

He knew but he didn’t care

Iirc

[dense salmon]

The emperor is inconsistent

He loves humanity but sees them as like cells of one body

He loves his sons but sees them as tools

[burnt maple]

His goals were so beyond comprehension, that a speck of dust that was Johnny on a planet of Shithole was not his concern.

[crisp heath]

Imo he enslaved himself, at the very least in so far as to his beliefs. He literally ended all religions and forced everyone to his own way of thinking

[dense salmon]

He is not a paragon but not evil

He has been selfish and selfless

[crisp heath]

I mean he enslaved, not that others did

[green loom]

A real shelfish

[dense salmon]

The emperor is like all of us. No one thought is binary and things are often complex

[burnt maple]

The Emperor was a man of compulsive behaviors, lol.