40k-lore-chat

[storm jungle]

Lore accurate answer; a lot of missions fail in the background/tons of rejects usually die in incursions, so their morale would be pretty good from that

[lapis wadi]

You don't often have a choice either.
You get infected and Nurgle is the only one who can take the pain away.

Or just mental corruption

[queen laurel]

The soldier that decided to join nurgle watching his mother that got turned into a zombie get absolutely mushed into a red paste by the ogryn

[storm jungle]

[lapis wadi]

I do wonder how many scabs watch as several squads vox feeds cut out, and carefully decide to not try attacking the Rejects and stay behind those mob doors

[storm jungle]

Dozens if they know whats good for em.

Unless High Intensity + Shocktroop Gauntlet is on

[queen laurel]

To be fair i think they are facing some weird operatives after all, like literally the ogryns taunts literally stagger a plague ogryn

I don't know what type of insult that is but that is something

Because imagine insulting someone so hard they physically recoil from the damage

[lapis wadi]

The Veteran can also knock back by just shouting about Cadia

[queen laurel]

Yeah this is gameplay but it's funny to imagine

[patent ivy]

I completed my first Auric and they gave me a blue sword???

[arctic talon]

Lol

Auric is just heresy/damnation

With a high intensity modifier always

[patent ivy]

Ah fr

Disappointment

[warm notch]

"Your Honour is your life. Let none dispute it" is an oddly encouraging statement?

Its one of the loading screen texts in the game

[hasty coral]

Yeah I know the 4 monstrosities and 27 specialists are too easy

It gets easier with experience but still

My brother

They literally throw everything and your NEIGHBOR’S sink at you sometimes

[urban spire]

the scabs are cool

[rancid glacier]

I feel like the ragers don't fit very well with Nurgle's vibe. Could've made them a bit more cheerful, rather than angry

Probably just carrying the unit over from vermintide though

[echo vault]

Well inhale nothing but nitrous oxide for a couple years while on multiple stimulants your happiness turns into screaming violently nurgle cultist or not

Really I'm only concerned if the nurglings are happy or not

[median marsh]

Being cheerful isn't really a universal thing for Nurgle worshippers or even daemons

[broken zenith]

papa nurgle just wants a hug 😔

[warm notch]

His hugs require you to be in excruciating pain as you slowly decay and lose control over your body UwU

[broken zenith]

uwu

[normal light]

[broken zenith]

[urban spire]

the tallymen are all dour and grumpy

because they have to tally nurgle's plagues

and it's a pain in the ass

[broken zenith]

office work smh

smh smh

[sleek wigeon]

adding to this, some of the condition messages mention Wyrmwood now, notably vent purge

said something on the lines of "Wyrmwood field agents have reported a ventilation error in this area. Expect foggy conditions"

[median marsh]

I wrote down a big ol summary of all vox casts we have so far, it's generally a mix of "how it went down" and wyrmwoods misfortunes, plus teasing of things we haven't seen yet

She isn't mentioned ingame (yet) with only exception being a condition which describes Wyrmwood agents, which isn't really her specifically

[crisp heath]

I doubt there's even a "her specifically"

It's just a generic voice conveying information that could have been conveyed by anyone

[knotty acorn]

Ment too post this here lol. What if a Tau said fuck the "greater good" and joined the imperium? ||And I definitely didn't write a mini fiction with this idea||

[celest dome]

Well they would become Slaves to the Imperium, if not slaughtered

[sleek wigeon]

shot on sight lao

[green loom]

The Imperium would kill them, because the imperium doesn't want them

[knotty acorn]

Just a what if

[celest dome]

yeah, that's what would happen

[knotty acorn]

Mean if mr big blue can talk too an eldar just makes me wonder

[celest dome]

The Eldar didn't join the Imperium though

[green loom]

And they also still kill each other and that interaction was passive aggressive more than anything

[knotty acorn]

I think you mean ||sexual tension|| lol

[celest dome]

||No||

[knotty acorn]

|| ||

[green loom]

I won't bother

[knotty acorn]

Also what's with the necrons so they are like ancient tech things in cypts?

[celest dome]

Ancient Civ. that is mostly Skeleton like, but they were a much bigger force in their own time (Able to stand alone against the Old Ones)

[knotty acorn]

Funky fresh and apparently the tech guys want there stuff?

Or is that just a meme

[green loom]

Some of them do, others want them dead

[knotty acorn]

Does that same idea apply too like eldar and Tau tho?

[green loom]

Not really, Xenarites are a relatively small minority among the Admech

Eldar tech is also more psyker bullshit than actual tech so the Admech can't even use it really

[sleek wigeon]

i think so
Admech have a group called Xenarites who basically steal other factions tech and test it

they're usually shunned by the rest of admech and a few of them are outcast

[knotty acorn]

And the imperium dosent like that right

[green loom]

If not actively hunted

Not one bit

[sleek wigeon]

Dark Mechanicus is mostly made up of Xenarites iirc

(at least I think it would be)

[green loom]

Nah

Dark Mech is a lot of random things

[median marsh]

All xenos stuff is heretical and tainted (unless it serves their interest lel)

Callidus assassins got necron blades

[knotty acorn]

And the imperium dosent like new tech cuz it fucked something major up earlier right?

[sleek wigeon]

yep, Dark Age of Technology

also why AI is outlawed, cause it went rogue and nearly wasted all of humanity

[knotty acorn]

Ah ok

That filled hole for me

So they can't make more, use others and can only use what is now

[verbal path]

New tech is made, just either due to shit being extremely bad or it is made at a glacial pace that the Administratum seems fast.

[green loom]

The kicker is that in theory, it's not allowed to be "new" tech

[verbal path]

They're like Fantasy dwarfs. Anything outright new has to be so rigorously tested you'll probably never see your plans make it off the prototype stage.

[storm jungle]

The general creed of the Mechanicus says that all advanced technology has been invented, and that they must find it.

Innovation is heresy and therefore Bad-Bad™️, a great majority of the mechanicum believe this, the percentage of techpriests that actually want to invent stuff is very small in comparison.

And the fear of technological innovation comes from humanity's status during the Dark Age of Technology and for the most part is completely unfounded, we have no idea what caused the Man of Iron Rebellion and even without robots humanity was faring completely fine.

You can look at the Votann as an example who are pretty cool and got robots without using literal torture methods and slave labour for industrial production

[celest dome]

The Descart way of Technology, every thing has already been though, you just have to "unlock" them

[verbal path]

"Completely unfounded"

[storm jungle]

I mean it is?

Every factor of the fall of humanity was from outside factors, not technology.

And we have no idea what caused the Man of Iron rebellion either.

[tulip brook]

in a way they have a great point. being obsessed with research and constantly trying to improve something feeds at least 2 chaos gods

[storm jungle]

The admech are suppose to be religous fanatics and stupid lol

[verbal path]

The Men of Iron rebellion was a huge factor for the fall.

[green loom]

That's entirely irrelevant since not doing anything also feeds the chaos gods

[tulip brook]

not to mention they had a huge civil war back in the day

[storm jungle]

Yes and we still don't know what caused it.

the warp storms were the biggest factor

since they damaged all human colonies and cut content before the rebellion even began.

[tulip brook]

so doing just enough to maintain status quo. they figured it out

[storm jungle]

Correct.

like im not gonna point figures until we learn what caused the rebellion.

since its just stolen from Dune lol

[green loom]

I need to get more James images

[verbal path]

Blame the Eldar.

[verbal path]

The rebellion was before the storms

[storm jungle]

Was and during.

Its inconsistent

because again this part of the lore is incredibly empty and not explained.

[verbal path]

Give it a few years and GW will write books all about it like the Heresy

[storm jungle]

but either way the Mechanicus is not in the right to do anything they are doing.

[verbal path]

[storm jungle]

I mean id like that

less space marines the better

[celest dome]

The Imperium isn't known for it's historical research work

[storm jungle]

neither is GW

trust me

[verbal path]

You fool, you think GW won't shoehorn them in?

Behold. Giant soldiers with big pauldrons.

[verbal path]

They're not right but it's understandable why they do it in the setting.

[tulip brook]

it's not really relevant anyway

[storm jungle]

Eh with the Votann's release its pretty obvious that it isn't.

Servitors are not needed.

Neither is literal slave labour.

You don't need AI to automate most of your factorums.

[verbal path]

GW will grimderp Votaan, don't worry.

Can't have shit in 40k.

[storm jungle]

They already tried but they still serve as a good point against the admech.

[verbal path]

What'd they do wtf

[storm jungle]

Ancestor cores giving slow orders or just acting crazy

thats kind of it

[queen laurel]

Me watching my body get shot 50 times after i found the way to make the factory work five hundred times more easier
( Innovation is heresy )

[storm jungle]

a true Steve Jobs Moment

[median marsh]

last I remember votann had planet eating machines and they sorta ask you to vacate the planet

[verbal path]

So like the Admech

[median marsh]

That was an amusing read

[verbal path]

[storm jungle]

I mean again

they are still better

lol

[verbal path]

Well ya

[storm jungle]

Also correct

[verbal path]

Slow and crazy is admech on a good day

[median marsh]

"sir, you are living on top of my resource pile, can you leave in the next 5 work days"

[verbal path]

At least they ask

[storm jungle]

Im glad its not like that IRL

oh wait

[verbal path]

[median marsh]

[storm jungle]

[queen laurel]

Yo the classic humanity moment

[storm jungle]

Truly one of the must humanity moments of all time

[median marsh]

Me waiting for months for the gov to confirm that I am in fact actually me was interesting

[verbal path]

Thank God no one irl thinks the Imperium is an objectively good place to live.

[median marsh]

[tulip brook]

lol, you wish

[queen laurel]

Sorry to burst your tank treads

[verbal path]

[storm jungle]

Me loving the Imperium thinking im gonna die as a badass guardsman but i end up working to death as a slave in a factory

[median marsh]

[verbal path]

Me thinking I won't be a factory job

[queen laurel]

Imagine one day every warhammer fan gets reincarnated as their favorite faction

[queen laurel]

I think i would be pretty safe because it's obvious what i like

[tulip brook]

see guys, I figured it out. imperium can be bad but it's the best the humanity can have

almost daily

[storm jungle]

Orks are basically the safest if you like violence

since all they do is like

• fight

• fuck around

thats it

lmao

[jade holly]

Safest, violence

[queen laurel]

Yeah it's fun

[storm jungle]

IF YOU LIKE VIOLENCE

EMPHASIS

[queen laurel]

I might get lucky and even get a mek boy

I can make some truly funny shit

[median marsh]

Be me, stuck in depths of the hive for the rest of my life, no internet, leisure time or even quality air

[verbal path]

Average 40k player gets thrown to their favorite faction but they're as physically fit as they are now

I know not a damn person in my LGS is going into the PDF, let alone the guard

[tulip brook]

I'm not going into any kind of fight unless I'm somewhere surrounded by tons of armour

fuck being SM or guard

[queen laurel]

At least with being an ork i can reincarnate to try again

It has been proven that they can reincarnate

In one of the books after all

They have the most safest and easiest way of life you literally just fight and become better at fighting

[scenic bolt]

be nid, eat shit, get eaten, not a synapse creature so concepts of fulfilment and happiness are foreign

[verbal path]

Reborn as a grot

[queen laurel]

Nah fuck that

I said an Ork not a grot

We don't consider them as something of a part of a civilization

Like how people don't consider other people as-

( I'm not going to continue the joke because i will get shot in the head )

[celest dome]

Da red Gobbo season is upon us though

[crisp heath]

I'd make a good nid, I'm very good at eating

Also no it's still halloween

[celest dome]

Is it ?

[crisp heath]

yes

halloween ends on the solstice

[celest dome]

Like Red Gobbo Movies are already here

[crisp heath]

See ed gets it

also my h key is broken bad and I'm mad about it

[median marsh]

Warhammer version of all I want for Christmas but it's red gobbo singing about all the stuff they want to steal

[queen laurel]

Oh that is definitely something

[crisp heath]

They already did an ork "jingle bells"

stop being greedy

[queen laurel]

Because the orks already have another christmas song

[queen laurel]

Yeah but i want more

[celest dome]

Dakka through the Snow

[green loom]

"All I want for gobmas is Loot"

[crisp heath]

Sisters doing Carol of the Bells could be nice

[queen laurel]

All right now that we have already throne ourselves in this deep into the pit

[median marsh]

On the first day of Christmas, emperor gave to me

[queen laurel]

What other christmas songs would other factions perform

[median marsh]

A giant fragging shovel

[queen laurel]

Like eldar and the tau something like that

[crisp heath]

T'au would definitely be Children of Light

[median marsh]

Dance of the Harlequin fairy

[crisp heath]

Dark Eldar would be something from Norway

[queen laurel]

The eldar would have something like christmas jazz or something

An incredibly smooth and free flowing christmas song i suppose

[crisp heath]

Ew no jazz makes me think of Bill Clinton partially nude, no good

Ruined the whole genre

[queen laurel]

Ok

That is something to think about

[crisp heath]

You will, every time you hear jazz now

[median marsh]

I am kinda curious what celebrations imperium has

I remember a few mentioned but that's about it

[celest dome]

Sanguinala

[median marsh]

The one I know is Candlemas and feast of emperors ascension

[stray bluff]

Is there a “Everchosen” equivalent in 40k?

[celest dome]

Abaddon

And Horus

[crisp heath]

Wait imperials observe candlemas?

That's an awkward one for big E

[storm jungle]

Theres a Mass with lots of Candles

someone has to watch it

[median marsh]

I feel having a week long celebration of him getting put on the golden throne is a bit more akward

[crisp heath]

Yeah but Candlemas is like

[median marsh]

"I've been in horrible pain for 10k years and you celebrate it?!"

[crisp heath]

Literally about Jesus

[storm jungle]

Yeah its more a "he died for our sins" deal

[crisp heath]

Imagine being made into a God against your will, and then your worshippers turn around and worship a different God anyway

Forced into a competition you didn't want to join and then coming in second smh

[verbal path]

Not anymore.

It's all about Big E now.

[green loom]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ImaginaryWarhammer/comments/17oznvz/the_dark_king_end_and_the_death_vol_ii_spoiler/

Cool thing from new book

Emwattnot showing his real powers once again

[storm jungle]

I love how half the users are just

"I got no idea what this means."

[green loom]

"What do you mean 'read the book?'"

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[floral siren]

Well remember, the Ecclesiarchy adjust a the Imperial faith to each culture that was reassimilated into the Imperium. Could be a world that had adopted the original Candlemas on a cultural level (perhaps with a different meaning during the Dark age before the great crusade) and then when they were brought back into the fold it was tweaked to be an Emperor worship event

[storm jungle]

Or its just lazy writing.

[verbal path]

Most 40k holidays are just IRL ones with a 40k skin

[storm jungle]

^

Its mostly made for the sake of cheekiness

[green loom]

You know I've been toying with an idea

[verbal path]

And lazy writers. Why make holiday when can reuse

[storm jungle]

Pretty much

[river sequoia]

Isn;t the IG just WW1 with a 40k skin XD

[verbal path]

Depends on the regiment.

[green loom]

De- yeah

[river sequoia]

not a compalint, the asetetic is awsome

[sleek wigeon]

wait a sec, think i found mutie

Stigmartus Ogryn Brute

[celest dome]

No, the Mutie is not an Ogryn, they are smaller

They are Ragers but upgraded

[soft thunder]

Has anyone heard any lines of dialogue or read items mentioning the Moebian world of Infidus Brim? Trying to find a source for the 13th war for control of the place. So far I've only heard the world mentioned as a vassal and such in the Luetin deep dive vid.

[green loom]

Check the character creator?

If it's a moebian world it might be an option

[soft thunder]

nah it's not in there, probably closer to the fringes and not a core world. Gonna double check though

[hasty coral]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

NOT AGAIN

[warm notch]

So is there no code name for mutants because “mutant” is a catch-all term?

Like, the mutants we see in-game should be treated as just mutants with no specific designation cuz it’s unique or whatever

Idk where I’m going with this I hope I explained it enough for people to understand 💀

[green loom]

I figure since they'd be nowhere near as consistent as in game the vets just have trouble figuring out what the hell it is

[lapis wadi]

Where are Gyrinx from? Neither wiki seems to say, wondered if anyone knew.
Like, were they around in WiH times? Some kind of terran feline offshoot from the Dark Age?

[median marsh]

Mutants are incredibly varied so its basically impossible to have a code for em, as opposed to lets say a poxburster

[storm jungle]

Its never said.

They are just alien cats.

[median marsh]

Space Psychic Cats

[storm jungle]

Yep lol

they were around since Rogue Trader

[median marsh]

God, cats with psychic powers would be absolutely the worst

"Honey the fucking cat is levitating things again"

[storm jungle]

They aren't too psychic themselves but they do boost YOUR psychic energy at least.

[lapis wadi]

They can literally use assail

[warm notch]

40k bitches really said

Copy paste from elder scrolls

[storm jungle]

Deep khajit lore

[warm notch]

SMH so shameless

[lapis wadi]

Our psyker can be beaten by a gyrinx

[storm jungle]

[median marsh]

Most of the fauna/flora and other small details we simply dont get much info about sadly, like theres a whole lot of foodstuffs mentioned in books with only explanation "this is food"

[warm notch]

What’s corpsestarch?

Where does it come from?

[median marsh]

people

[lapis wadi]

Corpses

[warm notch]

I was making a stupid joke

[median marsh]

Soylent Viridian

i know

[warm notch]

Should have I made it more obvious

[median marsh]

the stuff we do know about is almost always some gross stuff

like giga grubs compressed into a grimy block

meanwhile Masozi is getting some ultra rare Scotch from hallowette

[lapis wadi]

A million stars under humanity's domain alone, yeah there's just "Food" rather than making up a dozen cuisines per world
Amasec is basically just "liquor", Recaf can be anything from tea to coffee

[warm notch]

I’m pretty sure Masozi does favors for her lol

Makes sense

[storm jungle]

She smuggles stuff in fly-runs ye

[median marsh]

Hallow got gifts for almost everyone except rannick and morrow so far

[storm jungle]

Shes running an entire operation she is

[median marsh]

Morrow because they fukin hate eachother

[warm notch]

Does this imply that Valkyrie Pilots are not common?

[storm jungle]

They are common

[median marsh]

Masozi is special

[storm jungle]

Who else will pilot valkyries

[median marsh]

she is skilled enough to do her own maintenance (much to Hadrons anger)

[lapis wadi]

I think she's unusally skilled yeah, not sure how rare pilots are in general

[storm jungle]

I mean they arent rare

[median marsh]

pilots are pretty common

[storm jungle]

pilots are in abundance

[median marsh]

good pilots are a different story

[warm notch]

Since I imagine the whole Inquisition operation is extensive, we see Masozi often because she’s the one that pilots rejects

[median marsh]

unless im fukin wrong because i remember that Tau struggle against seemingly inferior Imperial Craft because imperium pilots are war hardened

[warm notch]

Or I’m just thinking about it too hard

[storm jungle]

Theres more valkries than hers

[warm notch]

And should leave it lol

[storm jungle]

you can see some in the hangar cutscene and ones flying around the ship in the hub area

[warm notch]

Ye

[median marsh]

Shes training Mourningstar pilots

[storm jungle]

Thats basically just lore being stupid

Imperials literally utilize vietnam-era aircraft

Tau got 21st century+ modern fighters

[median marsh]

true, just something that surfaced in my brain

[storm jungle]

but of course they gotta have "trouble" otherwise every engagement would be them dying

like in reality an eldar aircraft would also wipe the floor with imperial aircraft

because its pilot literally completely controls the craft with their mind and its a modern era VTOL jet

but again, no stakes

[forest orbit]

Ye imperial aircraft is literally a fridge with wings

[lapis wadi]

I assume 40k craft have bits and pieces of supertech that the mechanicus doesn't really understand
It's why despite looking like a box with wings, they're still scarily good

[warm notch]

40k is so funny because it’s literally the Indomitable Human Spirit vs. Unknowable Cosmic horrors

[forest orbit]

aerial engagements against Tau/Necrons/Eldar realistically would be extremely one-sided

[warm notch]

And Humans can win because they have the numbers

[forest orbit]

but we need stuff for people to read so

[storm jungle]

Nah its pretty basic tech

[lapis wadi]

Yeah I have no idea then

[storm jungle]

having read some aeronautica novels it doesnt mention anything that makes the aircraft special

[median marsh]

Leman Russes literally have the chasis of early world war tanks

but with a turret slapped on top

[warm notch]

The Indomitable Human Spirit

[storm jungle]

Its mostly like i said if our heroes just got destroyed by advanced aliens it wouldn't be a fun read

[lapis wadi]

Unironically might be that

[soft thunder]

ya there's a lot of other valkyrie pilots, maybe. Thre's a lot of crashed valkyries seen throughout the maps, but Misozi is mentioned in hub-vox as training new ones. She's not alone, but the numbers could be dwindling. I mean that's why our* rejects were made acolytes after all, the need for more man-power.

[lapis wadi]

The human WAAAGH field

We believe the Emperor Protects
So he does

[forest orbit]

I love saying the Emperor protects only to die and go to the warp and get torn apart by daemons

💀

[storm jungle]

Skill issue

[median marsh]

just dont get noticed 4head

[arctic talon]

Leman Russ's are made out of whatever super material the imperium uses

fuckin plasteel

[warm notch]

The Emperor suffers the most unimaginable ass sores for our sins

Truly a gigachad

[storm jungle]

The only good thing to come out of the Siege books was saying how much of a piece of shit the Leman Russ is

a lot of people got mad at that passage

[arctic talon]

I mean

it literally is

a piece of shit lol

[storm jungle]

You tell em that

[arctic talon]

the only reason it isn't completely obsolete

is because its made out of plasteel lol

and has fancy future guns

with fancy future projectiles lol

[median marsh]

i love the dialogue that projects like, 87% of Leman Russ lossses in the upcoming battle for the foundry mission

[warm notch]

Based

[lapis wadi]

And yet there's not enough to spare to make me a good helbore.
I want a mission to retrieve that damn leman russ demolisher Morrow and Hallowette are always going on about JUST so I can melt it down into guns and blades

[median marsh]

Atoman Ore supremacy

[lapis wadi]

I thought Hadron said they have a high percentage win-rate. Might be a different line.

[median marsh]

i especially love Hadron explaining it as if i have brian damage

[warm notch]

Are Melta weapons reasonable to expect in Darktide?

Ik GW has the final say

[median marsh]

"Good, Gooderer, am i saying this right?"

[warm notch]

But like, idk

[median marsh]

well we have Plasma Guns

[soft thunder]

that's why the ogryn's love her so much

[storm jungle]

Thats more towards that if the manufactorum you are at blows up the percentage will be unrecoverable and it will heavily effect the current war-effort.

[lapis wadi]

Melta seems reasonable down the line I think

[median marsh]

so i dont think Meltas are off the table

[storm jungle]

its already confirmed and in the files

[median marsh]

there you go

[storm jungle]

people dug it up near release date

[warm notch]

EEEE

[storm jungle]

along with long-las

[median marsh]

pew pew!

[warm notch]

How long can it be

[storm jungle]

id go dig up the image but its like 1 year old

[winter vessel]

Long enough

[warm notch]

Longe

[median marsh]

gotcha covered Dilara

we got the crusher so far

[soft thunder]

do you have some of those quotes btw? about hadrons win rates things

[storm jungle]

there it is

[winter vessel]

What do you want from me? I’m in the Guard, got no time to be literate.

[lapis wadi]

Hadron: Leman Russ have a 70% success rate acoss the Imperium. They also have a 73% attrition rate.

[storm jungle]

Uh its when you are lowering into the plasma-reactor

its one of the quotes she says

[warm notch]

2h force sword lets go

[storm jungle]

will need to nab it next itme

[warm notch]

Honestly every class needs a class specific 2h weapon

[lapis wadi]

I see why the Imperium needs to print those tanks out en masse
They go through them at an astonishing rate

[arctic talon]

a better tank design would probably help

[warm notch]

Heresy

[soft thunder]

I remember something about leman russ win rates while walking past a tank, but it might've been elsewhere, only heard it once

[warm notch]

https://tenor.com/view/stranger-things-fire-flame-gif-14920648

[lapis wadi]

They're emblematic o the Imperial Guard
Dies en masse, but gets the job done

[winter vessel]

The Baneblade

[median marsh]

a couple characters comment on Leman Russes

[storm jungle]

Might be a voiceline that only triggers when you look at something, theres quite a few of those

[median marsh]

Morrow thanks the emperor for Demolishers, helping hold the bridge

"what they lack in range they compensate for with firepower"

Hallowette wants to nab the one during Ascensions Risers mission at the start

[lapis wadi]

She does, 70%. Heard the line a couple times.
Source: Trust me bro

[storm jungle]

[winter vessel]

I like the banter she has with Melk

[median marsh]

melk trying to throw his status around with her was funny

[warm notch]

Hallowette is such a funny person

[median marsh]

especially considering he then asks her to be introduced to shipmistress brahm

[warm notch]

Makes me wonder what kind of person Brahms is

[winter vessel]

Sire 🥛

[soft thunder]

i want to make a library of the voice lines so that I can actually refer to something when talking about quotes lol

[warm notch]

When are we gonna see her in game or hear from her

[lapis wadi]

I find her a little grating

[storm jungle]

We got an introduction voiceline in the files

so probably in a future update

[median marsh]

one day hopefully, so far we know what Brahm thinks of melk

[lapis wadi]

...Hallowette? She's the Aquila shop lady

[soft thunder]

Brahms is cool

[warm notch]

Soon ^tm

[lapis wadi]

Oh Brahms

[median marsh]

"i dont have time for social climbers" - according to hallowette

Brahms own words

[warm notch]

Doesn’t appear on discord mobile

So sad

[soft thunder]

are you the one helping janfon w/ the big voice files organization project btw?

[lapis wadi]

Is Hallowette with Brahms or Grendyl?

[storm jungle]

Ah nah hes the one doing all the work, I just have some of the voicelines I asked from him at times

[median marsh]

Brahms

[storm jungle]

Brahms

[warm notch]

Brahms

[storm jungle]

shes the rogue trader, Hallowette is her purser

[lapis wadi]

Thought so, wanted to confirm tho

[median marsh]

its why Hallowette gets away with so much shit

[celest dome]

Did she just say to call her Mom ?

[storm jungle]

Ma'am

its her accent

[celest dome]

Ah

make more sense

[lapis wadi]

Oh lawd being the pursar for a Rogue Trader.. she has Thrones to burn

[warm notch]

I’d also like to imagine that it would be bad for morale around the ship if she were to be judged harshly for skirting regulations so often

She is the one who gets the good shit for everybody

[median marsh]

well Rannick literally strings people up according to Morrow

[soft thunder]

grendyl warband basically set up shop inside of Brahms and Hallowette's living room

[median marsh]

its just some people are more equal than others

[celest dome]

Bramh has Hallowette, Kral, and maybe Brunt ?

[median marsh]

[winter vessel]

Good Ol’Brunt

[lapis wadi]

Hadron?

[warm notch]

Sucks that Mourningstar is kinda hollow

They wanted to turn it into a social space

But there’s like barely anything to do with other people

[celest dome]

It's difficult to say for Hadron and Sefoni

[warm notch]

Maybe they’ll decorate it for Candlemas 🥺

[lapis wadi]

A public shooting range would be ideal I think

[celest dome]

As both seem to have specially made emplacements

[median marsh]

thats Sefonis role

[soft thunder]

Hadron is grendyl's techpriest. Brunt is more than likely Brahm's armourer that we have yet to see in game.

[warm notch]

“Sefoni? She’s always been here. She came with the ship”

[celest dome]

Aha

[warm notch]

I’m kidding

[soft thunder]

Hadron is 100% grendyl's techpriest

[lapis wadi]

Yeah but it's instanced, I can't see someone hose down the superheavy target in a second and go "What the HEL is that gun?!"

[warm notch]

It would be funny if she was an unexplained presence that everyone’s too scared to off her

[celest dome]

Could she be an Astropath ?

[median marsh]

"she just showed up one day"

[lapis wadi]

"I thought she was with you"

[soft thunder]

sefoni, we have no clue really. idk if she even leaves the giant tube. She might be Brahms' astropath

[celest dome]

Not sure, she seem to lead the Technica group of the ship

[warm notch]

What if she needs to go pee

Is she just in that tube all the time

[median marsh]

i dont think she can get out

[lapis wadi]

The goo doesn't descriminate

[warm notch]

Darn

[median marsh]

aside from shackles she got tubes connected to her

[celest dome]

Nobody would notice

[soft thunder]

Ya, due to inquisitorial authority. The way alice and hadron interact give me the impression Hadron is a new arrive and there is major friction between the two

[warm notch]

Zamn

[median marsh]

even if anyone noticed, i dont think theyd have the guts to tell her

considering she can invade your mind

[normal light]

Wait what? What is that?

[warm notch]

In game files

[soft thunder]

Plus Hadron is in the lvl 30 acolyte initiation scene

[warm notch]

Showing icons for unreleased weapons

[median marsh]

stuff found in game files a loong time ago

we got Crusher from that so far

[warm notch]

2h force sword BAYBEE

[warm notch]

Maybe the 2h force sword became the Illisi Force Sword over time

I don’t see what a 2h force sword would bring to Psyker that they already don’t have

[lapis wadi]

Yeah that basically confirms Hadron is Inquisition

[normal light]

It looked like WH40K stylized Darkest Dungeon Item for me

[celest dome]

What would a 2h Chain Axe bring ?
Same question same answer, new move pattern and stuff

[median marsh]

theres a whole lot of character insignias corresponding to every weapon, most likely tied to future "mastery" penances

at least people speculate it to be their purpose

[celest dome]

There were brute codes available before (sadly aussimone cleaned them and i think some were lost) where we could see hooks for different penances and all

[median marsh]

i like looking at datamined stuff but prefer to wait and see, as it could be just leftover things that wasnt removed

[arctic talon]

The shitty mask

[median marsh]

kinda like how fallout has remaining code for scraped quests

[celest dome]

Yeah, VT2 still has 2 weapons that never were released

[soft thunder]

oh? what are they?

[celest dome]

Grenade Launcher for Kruber

And iirc Flame wall staff for Sienna

[soft thunder]

sounds neat

[soft thunder]

need some ogryn grox cav w/ rumblers

[green loom]

I highly doubt we'll see the long las

The sniper niche is already filled

[warm notch]

Oop that old UI

Back when it was more about left for dead vibes lol

[soft thunder]

who cares about long las, give me an Arquebus and some metal bits. I'm ready to go full robo-kruber and serve the Omnissiah

[lapis wadi]

We also just do not fight in situations a sniper would be useful.
I'd appreciate a helbore with a red dot, but that's about it

It's like complaining we can't set down a mortar

[soft thunder]

let me drive the tank, sah!

[celest dome]

People still wanna see it

And it's not a difficult weapon to make, also beta leak and all

[winged jacinth]

I feel like if we get a melta it will be as an admech character specific, otherwise i feel like it would be plasmagun 2 (or an upgrade to revolver for zealot they probably shouldnt get)

[lapis wadi]

I wanna see a triplex
Special action to change firemode

[celest dome]

Why would melta be an Admech only weapon

[winged jacinth]

My problem with longlas is that the guns we have fully cover the engagements we get in

[lapis wadi]

AdMech unique would be Arc-weaponry I think

[winged jacinth]

Because for vet it would be another plasma gun in terms of role and i don't think the other 3 will get guns for that role

[celest dome]

Admech would probably have next to no shared weapons

As for Las weapons, apart from Ogryn ones I don't think we need that many more of them right now

But Melta will probably be a suped up Plasma, going into heat much faster, or they are gonna go shotgun and charged beam

[median marsh]

a melta would be easy to distinguish from Plasma

range for one

[winged jacinth]

I could see a long las being added as an even slower kantrael 12 with a better optic? But not with any special mechanics or real zoom i don't think

I think whatever a new class would be will have mostly or all exclusives purely because that's a big part of selling it

[woeful hemlock]

guys! guys! I found Jimmy space!

[median marsh]

oh no its the cuppa soup man

[celest dome]

#darktide-memes

[woeful hemlock]

ty

[verbal path]

Shorter range plasma guns with even more punch through

Or ||beam heat weapons||

[median marsh]

reduce them crushers into molten slag for getting too close

Jurgen cosplay delight

[woeful hemlock]

or they could go the direction of Space Marine 1 and make them super close range shotgun style, tho I didnt personally like that as much but it would be a neiche to fill

[storm jungle]

Melta is deffo gonna be a beam weapon

[molten swan]

double laspistol would be a cool vet weapon

[storm jungle]

Space Marine 1 was the only thing in 40k ever to do that shotgun style

[woeful hemlock]

IK but there is prescedent in that, despite the criticsm, they didnt want to make a clone of the lazcannon

[celest dome]

And was only cause SM didn't have Shotgun at that time

[storm jungle]

Its pretty bad

[woeful hemlock]

it was pretty bad ye,

[arctic talon]

Also Las cannon would be an ogryn only thing anyways

[verbal path]

Nah. Lemme get a 4 man of vets to lug one around

We emplacement team now.

Grab the sandbags.

[woeful hemlock]

yeah ik im just stating why they chose to go that way.

Right now FS have a similar problem with the plasma gun

[arctic talon]

Melta would have 0 range

Lower ammo

[celest dome]

Except Plasma aren't beam

[celest dome]

Lots of heat

[woeful hemlock]

cant say it doesnt feel like that tho

[arctic talon]

The melta should realistically delete anything in its path

The plasma takes multiple shots to put down hardier foes

[median marsh]

i love my plasmagun

[woeful hemlock]

they should make the plasma have an AOE explosion if I were a game designer for FS this is where I would go

to differentiate it

[arctic talon]

For melta I’d just make it instantly kill

Every single enemy lol

And it has a recharge period

[verbal path]

It does have an aoe explosion

[arctic talon]

Low ammo pool

And one shot

[verbal path]

When you overheat

[arctic talon]

LOL

[woeful hemlock]

bigger, with far far less pierce

[verbal path]

😉

[woeful hemlock]

feels wierd

[verbal path]

They should add the meltagun but make it function like the one in ||Eternal Crusade||

[storm jungle]

[verbal path]

[arctic talon]

Die

[woeful hemlock]

IDK why it has such a high projectile speed too, can the engine even do projectiles?

[arctic talon]

Yes

[woeful hemlock]

that might be why

[arctic talon]

Grenades

[woeful hemlock]

gravityless projectiles

grenade coding is going to be a different beast

[arctic talon]

Psyker attacks

[woeful hemlock]

ye

tru

[verbal path]

I miss the game as trash as it was

[woeful hemlock]

then in that case my opinion would be to lower the projectile speed, remove the pierce completely, up the primary attack damage, and give the secondary a massive AOE

that would feel more lore accurate AND leave space for the melta

[arctic talon]

Idk

The plasma gun doesn’t need changes

It’s fine as is

[celest dome]

Yeah

[woeful hemlock]

it does

[arctic talon]

How

It feels good to use

[woeful hemlock]

how I just said

[celest dome]

Melta doesn't act like current Plasma

[arctic talon]

It’s lore complaint enough

[verbal path]

Isn't this just SM's plasma guns

[arctic talon]

And it doesn’t step on anything’s toes really

[woeful hemlock]

... maybe ...

[arctic talon]

Lol

The plasma gun in darktide fits it’s role

Which is to blow up high threat targets

[celest dome]

I do want to see Drakefire pistol return as Twinned Plasma Pistol

[arctic talon]

And be decent at crowds

[verbal path]

It needs to be changed by being smaller and in pistol form and needs an accompanying melee weapon.

Please and thank you.

[woeful hemlock]

it would still do that with my changes

just do it in a different way

[arctic talon]

No

Changing for the sake of change is bad

They’ve found a happy medium for it

Don’t fucking touch it now

[celest dome]

It's wasting Dev time
Dunno even if it would be needed for a new variant

[arctic talon]

^

[woeful hemlock]

its not for the sake of change, its so that the melta can have a neiche

[verbal path]

Touch.

[median marsh]

YOU FOOL THATS THE PLASMA COI- explosion

[arctic talon]

The melta also could be zealot exclusive lol

[verbal path]

[arctic talon]

Which means it would have its own niche

Just saying lol

[celest dome]

I'd say shared, for both Vet and Zel

[arctic talon]

Or it could be multi class

[woeful hemlock]

yeah maybe

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[verbal path]

Nah, let psyker cook. Give em the melta.

[arctic talon]

My point being

Plasma has a niche already

And melta wouldn’t take that niche

[celest dome]

Give them Molten Beam staff

[arctic talon]

It would be a very close range weapon

Compared to the plasma gun

[woeful hemlock]

molten beam should be insane damage and like 33-50% perrils

but yeah I love it

[verbal path]

Instead of exploding plasma, give vet a grenade launcher.

[woeful hemlock]

naaaah, exploding plasma

[grave sparrow]

rumbler tho

[arctic talon]

Or hear me out

It’s another varient

Problem solved

[woeful hemlock]

I'm not going to be convinced out of it.

just cant do it

[median marsh]

stop touching my plasma >:C

[celest dome]

Plasma gun:

• Good Heat management
• Good Ammo
• Good speed and RoF
• Anti Armour and long ranged
  -> Throw balls of Plasma in a straight line very fast
  Melta:
• Bad Heat management
• Mid Ammo
• Good speed but not great RoF
• Anti Armour but close ranged
  -> Beam
  -> Special attack being shotgun blast (No way to vent on your own

[celest dome]

Then perish

[median marsh]

explodes violently, evaporating everyone close by

imagine if plasma guns actually tked

what a nightmare

[grave sparrow]

if friendly fire was in this game it'd be 50x harder lol

[woeful hemlock]

yeah this sounds basicly like what I would want, just without the pierce and a bigger AOE, its not a hard change

[celest dome]

Beam staff (Molten Beam) would work quite well as a Pyromancy staff working like the Surge:

• Light attack being the Purgatus one
• Heavy attack charge a beam that then is held

[arctic talon]

Plasma vet 💀

[celest dome]

AoE on what ?

[arctic talon]

God

I’d fucking kill myself

[woeful hemlock]

plasma gun charge attack

[arctic talon]

In any game with a plasma vet

Also charging a plasma gun doesn’t make the ball bigger in lore

It just makes it better at killing shit

[celest dome]

It doesn't really have an AoE

[arctic talon]

Overcharging a plasma gun makes the plasma hotter

[verbal path]

Plasma gun variant with no overheating but each shot has a 1/6 chance to randomly explode.

[woeful hemlock]

lore accurate

[verbal path]

Disable the safety. Let the plasma burn.

[grave sparrow]

Isn't that TT accurate

[woeful hemlock]

that's what regular humans get

[arctic talon]

That’s tabletop accurate

Lore wise plasma guns don’t explode

As long as you don’t keep on firing without cooling off

Or overcharge

[verbal path]

They don't explode. They just violently vent heated gas on you if you're unlucky.

[arctic talon]

They explode if a containment failure occurs

Which is very rare

But yeah you just get vented on lol

[grave sparrow]

don't they normally have a limiter safety too you'd have to bypass to make it explode

[verbal path]

You are fucked. The gun is fine though

[arctic talon]

Yes

[lapis wadi]

Hadron might not know how to bless reliably but she knows how to make reliably plasma guns

[arctic talon]

Skitarii remove said limiter

To fire the gun faster

[woeful hemlock]

they're all dying of radiation anyway soo

[lapis wadi]

Skitarii are also fine burning their arm and face off

[arctic talon]

Only if you don’t pass the crux

The flesh is weak

Also vanguards are the only ones exposed to a fuck ton of radiation

[verbal path]

Tabletop added the safety back into plasma guns again. You can fire it safely or disable the safety and overcharge with a chance of plasma death.

[woeful hemlock]

When I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me

[arctic talon]

Back in 4e you had to wait a turn

To fire plasma as imperial

Bcs it was cooling off

[molten swan]

iirc cawl fixed plasma guns or something, they dont randomly explode, only when you overcharge

[arctic talon]

No

He made some fancy plasma guns to give out as gifts that did that

But it was too expensive to implement

[woeful hemlock]

cawl is op.

[arctic talon]

Primaris plasma guns are even more volatile

Lol

[verbal path]

Cawl doesn't give a shit on safety.

[arctic talon]

^

[lapis wadi]

Cawl: "You dense motherfuckers forgot the safety switch just turn that shit ON you dumbasses"

[arctic talon]

He has the admech grind set

[verbal path]

Look at the dreadnought he made

[arctic talon]

Safety is for cowards

[verbal path]

What do you mean dreadnoughts are supposed to keep the marine alive

[lapis wadi]

"Anyway here's my new and improved plasma gun, it doesn't have a safety so you can't forget it"

[winged jacinth]

Gee Cawl, how come the omnissiah lets you be the best at every science?

[woeful hemlock]

should I make traitor gene seed primaris?
girlyman said no.
fuck it

[arctic talon]

ALWAYS OVERCHARGE

[woeful hemlock]

do it anyway

[celest dome]

Fuck it we ball

[lapis wadi]

How many minds are under Cawl's robes?

[arctic talon]

We know at least 6

Most likely way more

And plasma guns don’t randomly explode anyways unless you ignore safety issues

Which

Most people do in the middle of a battle

If it’s between dying and dying and killing someone

Most people are gona try killing someone before they die

[molten swan]

Not under his robes per se but he has the Cawl Inferiors ye, and most plasma gunners are probably like dang, guns kinda hot, but I see a big bug over there, gonna shoot it pulls trigger and blows up because they got unlucky

[lapis wadi]

Imagining Cawl now has some other skills he's mastered and assigned a personality to but its just never come up.
Hes a galactic-grade baker but nobody ever asks him for chocolate chip cookies. Occasionally he brings one of those minds out just to showcase it to a random guard or skitarii and "No one will ever believe you"

[molten swan]

lol

[tulip brook]

Imperium favors battles of attrition too. Somewhat delicate and old equipment being used in less than ideal conditions for a long time

[arctic talon]

Skill issue tbh

[molten swan]

could be

[arctic talon]

Simply endure the pain

Skitarii straight up choosing to not feel the pain of plasma overheat in 7e was hilarious

[verbal path]

The old rule of Imp plasma need a turn to charge but Chaos going fuck it we ball and overheating

[arctic talon]

[woeful hemlock]

its only 10,000 Kelvin! how weak are u guardsmen! - attached tech priest probably

[arctic talon]

Real

[verbal path]

3rd edition was 25 years ago.

[woeful hemlock]

for real tho, it would be well beyond 10,000K, that is only the fusion temperatures in stars because of gravity, in a plasma gun the temperature would probably need to be like 10^10 K

[verbal path]

I dunno, I tank plasma shots pretty well

[lapis wadi]

Tau: "If you just turn the dials down from 10 it can fire faster and more consist-"
Imperium: "SCREW THAT IM GOING TO MAKE A PLASMA GUN THAT GOES TO 11 AND THEN I'M GOING TO SHOVE IT UP THE EXHAUST OF ONE OF YOUR BATTLESUITS"

[woeful hemlock]

on a side note, anyone know if they plan to add a skitarii charechter?

I want to spread dealy radiation

and use the more crazy shit in the lore

[lapis wadi]

I doubt full skitarii
But a tech-y guardsman maybe

[tulip brook]

And mofos be like: screw it imma overcharge it

[lapis wadi]

I want a techy Enforcer with cyber-mastiff

Or hell just go full Hired Gun and have them be a bounty hunter

[woeful hemlock]

just straight skitarii would work IMO, make it a very specialist ranged character with archebus and phosphor shit

[soft thunder]

No official or rumored dlc or hero class dlc like vermintide atm

[tulip brook]

Wrong hive city

[green loom]

IF they're gonna add a new class

It's gonna be something that can be a reject

[lapis wadi]

Cyber-mastiffs and bounty hunters exist galaxy wide

[woeful hemlock]

aww shit, this is true

[lapis wadi]

Not just Necromunda

[woeful hemlock]

voice lines and tutorial would need to fit, unless they change the intro.

this does pigeon hole them a bit

[verbal path]

Imperial plasma on safety mode is now stronger than tau pulse rifles

[woeful hemlock]

wait why not battle servitor?

[verbal path]

[lapis wadi]

Nice

[tulip brook]

They have cannibalistic butchers gang, atoma has water cartel. Necromunda is infinitely cooler

[woeful hemlock]

would be anothe big man to ballence the og

and more ranged focus to blend with the og's melee focus

[lapis wadi]

Oh yeah no doubt, Necromunda is made to be a madcap hyper-intense city of bullshit
Tertium was a pretty generic manufactory-hive it seems

[soft thunder]

As much as I want and would debate for a skitarri vet hero class, I'm not sure if I can justify it's in-game lore or production cost/value

[green loom]

You can't

[woeful hemlock]

yeah it wouldnt fit the current narrative VO lines and intro

like at all

[green loom]

It'd be fairly weird to mix in elite Cult forces with a bunch of shitty prisoner hobos

[soft thunder]

it'd have to fit in the framework of the current voice actor's and personalities as well.

[woeful hemlock]

battle servitor might work slightly better

[green loom]

No

Because Battle servitors wouldn't be able to get out of their cage

[lapis wadi]

You would need a whole new intro for that too

[green loom]

They also won't be able to jump

[storm jungle]

It could work but the issue is its WAY too much work.

You basically need to work on

• An entirely new Voice Actor group if you want more than 1 personality, since every character has 3 with 6 voice actors attached to them
• Entirely new melee/ranged weapon set
• Playstyle
• 60 perk long Skill-set

[green loom]

Or actually think

[storm jungle]

etc etc

[lapis wadi]

Hell a battle servicer can't be a reject

[storm jungle]

its basically something fatshark had to have been planning to be a core edition since the game got announced

[lapis wadi]

It would be dismantled if it broke

[woeful hemlock]

cant be a reject?

[lapis wadi]

You don't imprison a malfunctioning lasgun

[woeful hemlock]

sure it wouldnt end up in prison but could be a reject

[verbal path]

Servitor with a Text to speech voice

[storm jungle]

Its also why most of these "Wouldnt it be cool if this was a class" ideas dont really work from the amount of effort it requires for their implementation

[storm jungle]

Saves on VA-cost at least

[green loom]

Also like 90% of them are just the class archetypes anyway

[lapis wadi]

Servitors have no will

[woeful hemlock]

VT has them

im not saying it would be any time soon

[celest dome]

I prefer having Voice actors

[green loom]

That's NOT comparable

[storm jungle]

Yeah and it was all made pre-release

[green loom]

AT ALL

[woeful hemlock]

necromancer?

[storm jungle]

and an entire class for each character took like 1 year

or even longer

[green loom]

For vermintide it's the same 5 vas doing some minor variation voice lines

[storm jungle]

^

[lapis wadi]

They're scarcely better than Imperial Robots, if they're even that

[celest dome]

Archetype: Character
Branch: Career

[green loom]

For Darktide
JUST FOR A SINGLE CLASS

You'd be doing 6 vas

[storm jungle]

Darktide basically also shot itself in the foot by making a "Make your character" system.

[celest dome]

Or 3 if you do one like the Ogryn

[green loom]

And then you have to get the 24 OTHER voice actors to come in and record variant voice lines for that as well

[soft thunder]

They haven't even mentioned any type of "heroe class" akin to what's in vermintide. With the new talent trees, instead of V2 and pre-13 talent tiers, I'm not sure hero classes as we know is V2 are even practical. and it took Fatshark over 5 years just to do the 5 classes w/ talent TIERS and one 1 voice actor per character.

[storm jungle]

^

[lapis wadi]

I wouldn't mind future classes only having 3-4

[woeful hemlock]

yeah, it's probably why the "story" is so shite

[celest dome]

They didn't close the door on it though, unlike with VT2 at the start

[soft thunder]

all we know is there will be DLC and the best we can hope for is new guns and enemies

[storm jungle]

The story is not really shit its more that this game is 1 year old and we are getting it piece-meal

this is a live-service game, it wont be dropped on your lap entirely

Vermintide's entire "plot" for example literally can get resolved in 2 days

[woeful hemlock]

lets not go into this again, the traitor narrative is garbo

[lapis wadi]

Literally why is there chargen yeah
There's no stats, and no matter what home planet I pick, my enforcer psyker is from Tertium

[woeful hemlock]

surely we can agree on that, the lore is top tho

[storm jungle]

Im talking about the entire narrative around the game

[woeful hemlock]

and the voice lines

[storm jungle]

nobody cares about the Amongus Traitor

[celest dome]

Not from Tertium, sent to work on Tertium after the Psychic awekening

[woeful hemlock]

when i say story I specificly mean the cutscene stuff

[green loom]

Idk the cutscenes are pretty nice

[lapis wadi]

I didn't even recognise the character at trust 30 being executed until I went to the cosmetic store and "waaait why are you all... oooooh"

[green loom]

She shows up in all the trust cutscenes

[lapis wadi]

She does?!

[woeful hemlock]

theyre well choreographed and put together yeah but their story really is trash

[green loom]

ye

[tulip brook]

Almost all

[lapis wadi]

In the background or something?

[green loom]

Ye

[storm jungle]

Blink and you'll miss it

[green loom]

Imo they should've had her escaping with/helping you in the intro

[celest dome]

As far as we know:
New branches: Neither confirmed nor disallowed
New trees (Current archetypes): Neither confirmed nor disallowed
New archetypes: Neither confirmed nor disallowed
For VT2 at launch we had the invalidation about new Characters

[lapis wadi]

She should have been your mentor, introducing you to everyone and encouraging you when they say "Show results"

[soft thunder]

ya that reject traior isn't important to the story. Wolfer has the potential a representative of the 6th as an antagonist

[green loom]

Yus

Can't wait for anniversary

Methinks that'll be our next update

[soft thunder]

and the pearls

[woeful hemlock]

infirmed is what happened to ur grandma, unconfirmed*

[green loom]

Infirmed means alluded to no?

[soft thunder]

inferred

[woeful hemlock]

infirm: not physically or mentally strong, especially through age or illness.

[green loom]

Close enough

[soft thunder]

that alludes to deteriorating health

[celest dome]

Wolfer will prob stay as a Vocator only, we won't face him

As you lot might have noticed, English isn't my birth language

[soft thunder]

ya, just want them to tell us what he's doing and why/if he's important, we've killed hundreds of his clones already

[woeful hemlock]

no worries, English is barely the first language of the English

[soft thunder]

Then again, they could make that amongus traitor relevant to the grand narrative if she and others like her, are relaying key info to the traitors. Then alongside the newest wyrmwood vox transmission, the messages could be going to the same traitors blocking wyrmwood's incoming vox transmissions. Meaning the Mourningstar could be being lured into a trap by the traitors via the wyrmwood outgoing transmissions being the bait. This is a pretty big leap based on unfounded assumptions though.

[warm notch]

AMOGUS

Like the only thing in my mind that they can do wtih Darktide is kinda turn it into something similar to Destiny

Except Destiny has the benefit of having different game modes or whatever

idk

[woeful hemlock]

no god please no, I'd take death before destiny's monetisation strategy

[warm notch]

I meant a similar structure

Not in a monetization way lol

. . . Hopefully not

That'd be awful

I hate FOMO and "seasonal" content

Seasonal content is fine as long as it becomes permanent content in some way (which they do not do)

[storm jungle]

Darktide is nowhere near like a seasonal AAA-game to do that sort of thing

[earnest snow]

Just make game fun and I'll play and pay. I don't expect a good narrative considering the one we already have HOWEVER I do expect them to make the game fun.

So give me a virus bomb so I can detonate it in the center of Atoma and cause a disease-ridden planet shattering earthquake

[warm notch]

Definitely

[green loom]

The game is fun

[soft thunder]

are we the skaven this time?

[earnest snow]

Yes

[celest dome]

Do weaves even still have seasons ?

[soft thunder]

lol, i mean kinda

there's been like 2? maybe 3?

this season has been going on for like 2 years or something

they kinda gave up on it

[celest dome]

I think the only true seasonal thing should be a ranked mode, that doesn't work like the current missions

[marsh berry]

I think I found forbidden lore

[green loom]

Is that real

[winter vessel]

what in tf

[celest dome]

Random cosmetic mod ?

Back tome

[marsh berry]

Israel canon 😬

Yea

[median marsh]

this looks like that random text thats basically stock that gets put on blurry textures to appear that it has coherent text

[marsh berry]

Fashion Randomizer

I was expecting Lorem Ipsum

[hasty coral]

I exhaled

[marsh berry]

Then I was like "there's a 40k character named Judah?"

[winter vessel]

I vomited

[hasty coral]

How hard does Emp stomp Jesus?

[celest dome]

Basically Bible text no ?

[spare osprey]

Probably a dark angel if there is

Lotta Hebrew names

[arctic talon]

This is hilarious ngl

[spare osprey]

And biblical in general I suppose

[arctic talon]

Instead of lorium ipsum

[median marsh]

And the emperor said unto them
"Im not a god, stop following me"

[marsh berry]

Gonna see if there's anything else on the others

[median marsh]

and then he burned a child

[storm jungle]

The others have text/passages from Eisenhorn books

[winter vessel]

A Space marine named "Judah" from the Excoriators Chapter, Second Founding Successor chapter of the Imperial Fists

[median marsh]

every time i remember how emps dealt with religion i remember the Church of Thunder Stone or whatever it was called

[marsh berry]

Yea skullcage doesn't seem too interesting

[median marsh]

where he orders his warriors to throw grenades in an old mans house-church while arguing how religion is bad

[winter vessel]

Lightning Stone, close

[marsh berry]

Is this something? This pack is the only one that doesn't show up with Check All Cosmetics

[arctic talon]

Might be an NPC only thing

[marsh berry]

Oh wait there's a second pack but no text on it

[soft thunder]

I hope they make it on fire or something

[warm notch]

Like what even is the purpose of the giant book

????

It’s cool from an aesthetic standpoint

But like . . ????

[median marsh]

to record all the grudges

[warm notch]

Aye

That’s going in the book

🖋️

[median marsh]

also its warhammer, gigantic seemingly pointless objects are basically a given

i wouldnt be surprised if its full of prayers or something

[green loom]

It's a fkn

Ration can

[warm notch]

What if it’s a collection of the Imperium’s best jokes

[green loom]

That people transport food like stew and shit in

[warm notch]

And the zealot carries it around to cheer them up when times get hard

[median marsh]

it reminds me of uh

Codex Gigas i think its called

also known as Satanic Bible which is a gigantic book

this thing

more likely its an imperial take on giant medieval manuscripts

[earnest snow]

Its your main weapon against the heretic. You kill them with it so they take the energy of the book into the warp and explode upon meeting with a daemon

[marsh berry]

I was more just wondering if the text was a reference to a specific guard regiment or something

Not what kind of soup it is

[storm jungle]

It's just a ration can so

[marsh berry]

Aw

[verbal path]

Don't let the Ogryn get to it.

[storm jungle]

There was nothing implying these were ever gonna be a skulls-event thing.