40k-lore-chat

[green loom]

Idk the imps are a bit busy rn

[crisp heath]

That is a family guy siutation.

[crisp heath]

And LBH chaos is about to see how that feels very soon https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Hive_Fleet_Kronos

[green loom]

I'm sure the Black Legion fleet will notice this

[tulip brook]

chaos just got extra boost with vashtorr relic and angron being angry too

[crisp heath]

In its current state yes ......remeber the Kronos was just formed recently but the thing is A. A minor tyranid fleet is enough to consume an entire planet 2. Tyranids can grow very quickly 3. while demons can not be consumed human followers of chaos are another matter and those who are weak willed enough to turn the ruinous powers are practically vulnerable to the machinations of genestealers Also to address @tulip brook while Angron did make some gains against the imperium ...what he did will certainly piss off the green skins and a wagggh of epic proportions is heading to the Dark Imperium as the one thing orks hate is a kill stealer and Angron just killstole from one of the most powerful warboses out there.

[green loom]

Lol

No he did not

Point 1

He didn't Kill Yarrick

Point 2

If he DID kill Yarrick, a core part of Ghaz's character is that this would not matter to him in the slightest

[storm jungle]

Ghaz basically sees Yarrick as a fight he likes to fight against.

Not bros for life.

💀

[crisp heath]

Point 1 We dont know how yarrick died YET that is going to be revealed when 4th War of Armagaddon comes out Point 2 ....you clearly do not know anything about orks ....Gazul saw Yarrick as a worthy opponent Gaz is either A going to be mad at angron and go after him or 2 See Angron as a fight ESEPIALLY worth having and going after him.

[green loom]

Yeah that's true for orks

It's not true for Ghaz

[storm jungle]

ANGRON

DIDNT KILL HIM

[crisp heath]

Is fantasy and 40k in the same universe

[green loom]

Angron hasn't even been to Armageddon right

[storm jungle]

He has

[green loom]

I mean post rift

[storm jungle]

back when Yarrick wasnt even around

[crisp heath]

4th War of Armagaddon is not out yet then we will find out how yarrick died.

[storm jungle]

oh yeah no lol

[storm jungle]

Nope.

but GW makes cheeky "wink wink" to it once in awhile

but in reality no

[green loom]

There was an old easter egg about a ball in a wizard's room but beyond that not really

[crisp heath]

I heard the fantasy universe is in the 40k Unverse but is covered in a warp storm.

[outer wave]

Erm no, he actually sees him as his real husband and after beating the shit out of him, he's going to marry him and they'll have 3 half orkoid kids together!!!

[storm jungle]

LMAO

okay that got me

thats literally how grimdank sees them at least

[outer wave]

Kek

[brisk vine]

I'd watch that movie

Gripping romance

[tulip brook]

leviathan is going after imperium and most likely lose BUT a splinter of leviathan is enough to doom chaos

I don't really see the logic there

[green loom]

They're as capable of perceiving subtext as the guy that wrote this gem of a post

[storm jungle]

"Uncorrupted by sexuality"

Has Dark Angels pfp

the jokes write themselves

[green loom]

I swear you can't make this up

[storm jungle]

I hate it thanks

[outer wave]

Same guy probably looks at SoB porn

[green loom]

Hah, fool, he only looks at Femboys

[storm jungle]

god

[outer wave]

LMAO

[tulip brook]

well there are many fans unironically eating up all the fascism and dystopian future parodies, eh

[storm jungle]

Yeah uh

[green loom]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

you should see the discord banlog

[green loom]

Well

The loud ones anyway

In all likelihood they're as shut in as me

[winter vessel]

The only canon femboy is a night lord named Gendor Skraivok

[green loom]

So they have a substantial online presence but never leave their basement

[outer wave]

Has more or less of those kinda folk been banned since Darktide released?

[storm jungle]

So uh the spectrum was

[crisp heath]

Alsoi this

[storm jungle]

pre-Darktide there was lots

Post-Darktide not a lot?

but now its REALLY increased

[green loom]

See there's full on hints for that

[outer wave]

OH NO MORE ARE HERE

[green loom]

Guilliman and Yvraine have interacted once

[green loom]

Can't imagine why

[storm jungle]

[green loom]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/735819155608961044/1168588181499805796/sussy_af_fam.mp4?ex=65524f8d&is=653fda8d&hm=10ef8c75d8d50bb905e0a25411862a91f20044be72355653d0b32f5ac68aca85&

[storm jungle]

God this always makes me laugh

[storm jungle]

Yeah the dead giveaway is if they have space marine pfps, almost every person we banned had one and it was genuinely a bingo game

its that or a Caesar's Legion from New Vegas pfp

"Actually enslaving women is a good thing."

>Instant ban

[outer wave]

WHO SAID THAT

OH MY GOD

[storm jungle]

Have you met

legion fans

💀

"NO ROME IS GOOD"

shut the fuck up

[green loom]

Have you met New Vegas fans

[winter vessel]

I mean…I’m an NCR fan

[patent ivy]

Caesar's Legion hahahahahahah

[outer wave]

Oh my god

[storm jungle]

NCR is at least mostly normal people with corruption

Legion is just rome larpers

[patent ivy]

I'd liked the legion because of the armour lol

[storm jungle]

same

rome is cool

the society less so LOL

[crisp heath]

Mr House was the only right answer.

[winter vessel]

But occasionally I swing between NCR or Mr.House

[outer wave]

I had a whole ass debate with a dude from the steam forums about how women in this game are fine but he wanted them either gone or only in if they were hot

[patent ivy]

My PC backgrounds are Roman ahaha

[outer wave]

It was like talking to a brick wall I swear

[green loom]

It's really not that shocking when you realize how aware some people are

I'm like

[outer wave]

Best chance

Haha no, Im going with Tau thanks

[green loom]

60% certain this was a deliberate shitpost

It's just

Too ironic

[outer wave]

I could be a shitpost, it also couldnt be

Who knows

[storm jungle]

There was a super good reply there

"If the Imperium is humanity's last chance id rather we go extinct."

[outer wave]

LMAO

HAHAHAHAH

[patent ivy]

What do you think about Turkey renaming Constantinople to Istanbul?

[storm jungle]

Honestly no biggy

a name is a name

both sound neat

[patent ivy]

What does Istanbul mean

[green loom]

It means they really like bulls

[storm jungle]

The name İstanbul (Turkish pronunciation: [isˈtanbuɫ], colloquial Turkish pronunciation: [ɯsˈtambuɫ]) is commonly held to derive from the Medieval Greek phrase "εἰς τὴν Πόλιν" (pronounced Greek pronunciation: [is tim ˈbolin]), which means "to the city" and is how Constantinople was referred to by the local Greeks.

[crisp heath]

I mean I dont understand why someone who would saying somthing like that and like 40K considering these ladies exist.

[patent ivy]

Ah okay

[storm jungle]

because its a fascist hellhole

and those women will summarily execute you

💀

[green loom]

"I" refers to you and me
"stan" refers to stalker fan, or current slang for supporting
"bul" is short for Bull, a weird animal thing

[patent ivy]

Ah yes, I stan bulls

[winter vessel]

I mean in terms of the Eldar not giving a clear explanation to things they got a point. Something bad happens and they try to warn others they do it like they’re playing Dance Dance Revolution.

[green loom]

Also these are literally indoctrinated orphans

[storm jungle]

You say that like Eldar giving explanations stops the Imperium from shooting at them.

[green loom]

That's provided they get a chance to explain and aren't just shot

[crisp heath]

I mean LBH the sisters of battle have the apperance of Strong Indepdendent women and Eldar Farseers have the mindset of them.

[storm jungle]

because the writers also just cant write eldar

[green loom]

They're literally entirely subservient to the church and big e

[storm jungle]

^

[tulip brook]

and they are very likely to put you in torture machines and make you fight to death just because you weren't dying fighting

[storm jungle]

^

[green loom]

Well less the church now with Morvenn but still

They're very much not girlbosses

[storm jungle]

Reminder, sisters do this to their own members as well

[green loom]

Forget their own members, they do it to themselves

Some want to become Repentia

Or get into Penitent engines

[storm jungle]

yep lol

martyr complex

[patent ivy]

Yeah I was gonna mention that

[green loom]

Because they're indoctrinated, violent fanatic zealots

[patent ivy]

Seems brutal

[storm jungle]

you should learn these early Fett

most newcomers legit get indoctrinated into thinking the Imperium is good

so be careful lmao

[green loom]

Yeah don't fall into the funny "actually tue imperium isn't so bad" trap

[outer wave]

^

[storm jungle]

^

Its entirely fine to find them cool

just you know, dont say genocide and fascism is good

[patent ivy]

I treat the Imperium the same way I treat Caesar's Legion. Looks cool, not a good form of rule though

[storm jungle]

LMAO

a true gigachad opinion

🤝

[outer wave]

[green loom]

Dilara you're just a woke tourist who doesn't understand the tradchad ways of the chadperium of man

[crisp heath]

I fought they werte just very fanatical.

[storm jungle]

thats uh one way to put it

[green loom]

They're trained in the schola progenium

[winter vessel]

I like the Imperium. But it’s funny to learn stories about them falling victim to their own Narcissism. Like when that one planet was being invaded by Tyranids and the Ecchlesiarchy members that were there would shoot those who would even just talk about those Xenos were considered heretical. AS THE TYRANIDS WERE INVADING THE PLANET.

[green loom]

A place stocked almost entirely with war orphans

[storm jungle]

"FAKE NEWS."

[winter vessel]

Or those techpriests who got owned by a Man Of Iron

[outer wave]

Some people argue that its the Imperium's only way to survive in such a hostile environment, just remember that this is one that they also made themselves (killing off any alien species that could have likely allied with, refused to innovate so they use humans as robot substitutes, etc)

[green loom]

Also don't be like Mr Genghis here

[outer wave]

They shat in this bed, and now they're sleeping in it

[storm jungle]

Yep thats the Imperium's whole thing.

GW literally had to come out and say this

[winter vessel]

They refuse to clean the bed

[outer wave]

God thats embarrassing

[green loom]

But Dilara, GW are woke and bad for saying Nazis are bad!
Why am I getting angry about this post, specifically and only calling out weird Nazis?
So much for the tolerant left!

[green loom]

They do this a lot lol

[outer wave]

This guy specifically?

[crisp heath]

Actually the Imperium as Xenopohbic as they were are quite tolerant of same gender romances case in point

[green loom]

A whole crowd of like minded morons

[outer wave]

Zamn

[green loom]

They've called John Blanche and Graham McNeil tourists too

[outer wave]

I think alot of the books actually have LGBT+ couples in from time to time

[outer wave]

Dumbasses

[winter vessel]

Think there was a lesbian couple in one book, can’t remember which one exactly

[patent ivy]

Don’t be like him in the way he talks or his beliefs?

[green loom]

There was a thread where some of these guys were complaining and trying to reason how GW does stuff

Then a guy comes in

Who was head of marketing at GW for over two decades

And tells them how they did things

And they say he's a woke tourist and ignore him

[green loom]

Ideally both

[patent ivy]

Gotcha alright

[green loom]

It's not hard just
Avoid the pitfalls
Should be easy to spot

[crisp heath]

Like I said I will accept female space marines but in turn there needs ot be male farseers and male "sisters" of battle.

[green loom]

There are male farseers?

Shit the most prolific farseer is a guy

[outer wave]

In return GIVE ME A GOD DAMNED OGRYN FACTION PLEASE

PLEASE GIMME OGRES IN SPACE

[patent ivy]

So is the common consensus that there are, or should be, female SM?

[storm jungle]

Basically its going to happen at some point

[green loom]

Eldrad is basically the faction leader for craftworlds

[storm jungle]

GW realised unisex model lines sell really well

But to put it short since space marines have been guys forever a lot of male players hate the idea.

[outer wave]

The biggest shitstorm will happen with that news

[storm jungle]

YUP

Its such a chaotic topic that a lot of 40k subreddits banned the topic

[green loom]

So far there aren't, but I think it's reasonable to say there should be some

[patent ivy]

Ah ok

[storm jungle]

Yeah basically that

[green loom]

It's not even like, that serious

[storm jungle]

"Its been in the lore forever that space marines are guys due to biological reasons so they should not change it"

[green loom]

Some people just get really passionate about it

A lot of said people have

Literally no stake in the setting

[outer wave]

Literally the lore changes so much from codex to codex

[green loom]

Yeah it's entirely irrelevant

[outer wave]

Stuff from 1st edition like with beastmen and such dont really exist now

They kinda do but its weird

[storm jungle]

KINDA but super background

yeah exactly lol

[green loom]

Fyi this guy basically said that they didn't do fem marines way back because they were selling smaller sets and the female ones didn't sell that well, so they just defaulted to all male for convenience

It's not some political statement, it was just cold marketing

Now though marines are

Absurdly popular

[crisp heath]

Oh I thought eldar was a Matricarcal society.

[green loom]

No lol

[storm jungle]

What, no

[green loom]

I mean

There is the one craftworld

[storm jungle]

Yeah Iybraesil

but thats because most of their men folk died

lmao

[outer wave]

Erm open your FREAKING eyes dude they CLEARLY were saying that they HATE women just as much as I do!!!!

[green loom]

But eldar basically have no gender roles

So it's pretty irrelevant

[storm jungle]

Again i think it'd be neat

but im not advocating for it just yet

but when it happens I'll love the chaos

[winter vessel]

“That’s not an elf maid”, looks at male howling banshee

[outer wave]

Lets also bring back ork women

[storm jungle]

💀

[outer wave]

Like copy pasted straight outta blood bowl

[green loom]

I want them to spite the people who go "but you have sisters of battle"

[storm jungle]

its also mostly because people will bitch then go back to buying them because thats what 40k fans do

"I HATE THIS, I HATE GW"

Wallet already empty

[crisp heath]

Honeslty I am not trying to be political I just hate dopuble standards and I think the pendulum must swing both ways.

[storm jungle]

I mean it does

thats what we are saying

lol

[green loom]

Yeah Sororitas aren't even an all female faction

[storm jungle]

they got uh

ugly priests

so i guess that counts

[green loom]

Arco flagellants

But being all female is their gimmick

For marines, being all male is NOT a gimmick

It's not central to their identity

[winter vessel]

I mean I’m just impressed they managed to pull of a mostly female faction without having to use an existing template(Space Marines)

[crisp heath]

Eh you have a point besides we do have an all male faction to balance out the sisters of battle.

[green loom]

There are female Kriegers I think

At least there was one in Pariah nexus

[burnt maple]

There are.

[green loom]

The only guard groups I know of who even had anything relating to like, full on misogyny
Were the Tanith but only initially
And the Vostroyans until recently

[crisp heath]

Are there females on Krieg yes ...do they serve in the Korpss possibly rarely ...I mean remeber Kreigs main investment to the Imperium is soldiers.

So very likley any females in krieg are those who are unable to bear children.

[burnt maple]

Eh, not that.

[green loom]

I mean idk, cadians commit the same and they have females in their ranks

[winter vessel]

Love the Guard. Hate the Grey Knights

[burnt maple]

Kriegers are rarely "born". They are low-key clones, created from a set of gene templates en masse.

[winter vessel]

Vat born

[crisp heath]

Yea LBH most Kreigers are clones anyway.

[green loom]

Ye, and they still provide less than Cadians

Or provided anyway

[storm jungle]

All Krieg serve.

[burnt maple]

Wym less?

[storm jungle]

theres no gender qualification

[green loom]

There are a lot, a LOT of Cadians

[storm jungle]

The mother and father give their genetic data to a viate womb and out pops a krieger.

[crisp heath]

Yea I think they just clone.

[winter vessel]

Krieg is Krieg. That’s it

[storm jungle]

They aren't clones.

See above.

every krieger looks unique

[burnt maple]

Ederius, yes.

Want acomparission?

[crisp heath]

So they are test tube babies AKA Great Value Brand Astarties.

[outer wave]

So its Votaan?

[storm jungle]

Yep

They are artifically made in a sense but are still unique and their own person.

[winter vessel]

“Me Mum was a test Tube!!”

[storm jungle]

And Krieg still have naturally born soldiers too

the Vitae bomb stuff is just a speedier side method

[burnt maple]

Cadians provide regiments to the Imperium.

Krieg providesARMIES.

[storm jungle]

yeah because they cheat

[green loom]

And they also lose most of their campaigns anyway

[burnt maple]

They do. For the Emperor xD

[winter vessel]

“With a million more on the way”

[storm jungle]

Nice.

[burnt maple]

Say what?

[green loom]

Like per Fall of Cadia there were only a few million Cadians on Cadia, and potentially billions off world

[storm jungle]

yeah a lot of them didnt make it to the defense

uh

whoops

[green loom]

Off the battles the Death Korps have taken part in, they've won a single proper fight, some minor ones
And lost the majority

Actually no, two proper fights
I gotta include them nuking their homeworld to oblivion

[burnt maple]

Maybe because they are sent to the worst there are, because they barely give a shit and clearly Astartes should have handled it xD

Don't get me wrong.

[green loom]

The Cadians should've handled it

[burnt maple]

I love Cadians as the next person, but we oughta give credot where credit is due.

[green loom]

Astartes aren't built for protracted Ground warfare

[burnt maple]

No. They land, wipe a planet clean in a couple of months and go.

[winter vessel]

That was just a worldwide family bonding exercise.

[green loom]

No they land and get blown up immediately

[burnt maple]

I sense salt.

Why do you say such things about Astartes?

[green loom]

Marines are force multipliers, lethal in their own right but built for precise strikes on hard points, not full Frontline warfare

A tank can still kill them easily

[burnt maple]

Tell that to Flesh Tearers.

[crisp heath]

Space marines are like special forces they show up as the hammer but the hammer need an anvil that is where the Imperium guard come in.

[burnt maple]

They LITERALLY wiped a system clean.

[green loom]

The guys banned from cadia for butchering their allies?

[burnt maple]

Who gives a shit about Cadia.

Except Cadians.

[crisp heath]

Yera I mean its gone now Abbaon the Armless delt with that.

[burnt maple]

Yep.

[green loom]

Well seeing as it was a vital strategic point defended by a massive assortment of imperial factions I'd assume a not-insignificant number of people

[burnt maple]

It still blewup.

[green loom]

So you'd have to be pretty heinous and annoying to be barred from there

[burnt maple]

Doesn't change a fact that they did wipe planets clean of life.

Oh, I know!

[crisp heath]

The Flesh Tearers aren't sending their best

[burnt maple]

How about the Black Templars?

GW said that if all crusades went onto the Tau, they would wipe them.

Wespeak of say 6k marines against an empire.

[patent ivy]

Do you guys think any human inhabited planets escaped being captured by the Imperium?

[burnt maple]

Yes.

There still are hundreds of planets that are not known to the Imperium.

[crisp heath]

Adeptus Vaelarii coolest marines, Fite me

[green loom]

40k is inconsistent and marine feats are dependent on flavour text and the author, personally a few marines being capable of doing more than a handful of strikes is stupid so I prefer that interpretation
If you want the boring marine power fantasy I can't really stop you

[crisp heath]

I hate the "100 marines can take a world" shit

Like, quite simply, no they can't

All due respect

[crisp heath]

I like to think the black tempalrs continue their crusades just to exploit a loophole int he codex astatrties.

[green loom]

Flashback to that one heresy book where they land on a primitive world and lose a bunch of marines to old ass tanks

[green loom]

The loophole doesn't exist

[burnt maple]

I hate it too.
Then again it is written as an event that happened. The Flesh Tearers one.

[winter vessel]

They's the ones who are comprised of three chapters right? One of em being them Celestial Lions?

[crisp heath]

My very first 40k book had a chaos marine getting his head blown off by a lasgun and I was like "why is everyone scared of these guys?"

[burnt maple]

XD

[winter vessel]

Black Legion?

[burnt maple]

He wore no helmet, right?

[crisp heath]

Yeah, Star Scorpions (now The Pure), Emperor's Spears, and Celestial Lions

[green loom]

Gaunt?

[crisp heath]

Yeah First and Only

[patent ivy]

Interesting. Wonder how they're doing and if they know about what's going on in the "known" universe

[burnt maple]

Bet 6o as Gaunt.

Bet yo ass*

[burnt maple]

Various state of development. From medieval to "our" times.

[green loom]

Callback to the Siege book where the one Imperial Fist Captain unceremoniously drops dead because a single bullet fired from a crappy autogun by a random slave dreg hits his eye lense

[queen laurel]

if i remember there was actually a planet once where there were kaijus that are so dangerous that they can even Fuck up Titans

[burnt maple]

Now thatis bs.

[queen laurel]

Of course that planet got glassed to oblivion

[winter vessel]

was more of a Fire Angels fan. They're like BT who believe in Big E being a god, but, are less angry than the templars.

[queen laurel]

Mechanicus doesn't like it when something is superior to their creation

[burnt maple]

The Emperor giveth, the Emperor taketh away.

[patent ivy]

What's crazy to me is how I heard that the civilizations erected on the new planets reused the tech from their ships to set up, but can be in such ancient tech ages

[patent ivy]

Hmph

[green loom]

Oh you mean knight worlds

[crisp heath]

The filter caught me because I was too excited about Emperor's Spears oof

Does anyone else's discord crash when they get filtered in this server?

[green loom]

I'm not sure why my discord crashes anymore

[patent ivy]

Haven't tried, but I'd assume the size of the server probably is responsible

[green loom]

It's become random

[queen laurel]

Discord crashing is like tzeentch's personality

it's quite hard to figure out

[burnt maple]

Anyway. Astartes bones should be hard enough to stop a bullet in eye socket.

Eh, remember we have book where eldar anti-armor weapons that melt baneblades couldn't go past a makeshift barricade.

[crisp heath]

But yeah, more politely, I was saying I like the Spears because they hate Guilliman, hate fascism, love avenging fallen brothers

And their homeworld isn't a complete hellhole, it's no worse than the real world bronze age

[winter vessel]

They hate the big blue nerd? Ok they got my stamp of approval

[queen laurel]

Even if it's not strong enough to stop a bullet from a normal gun would just take out his eye he can still function

[crisp heath]

They're Ultramarine successors too iirc lmao

They hate their dad

[winter vessel]

oooo sweet irony

[jade holly]

Is there an Inquisition army for the table top?

[crisp heath]

They think he's a daemon pretending to be a primarch

[burnt maple]

ACKSHYUALLY, Emperor's Spears hate Calgar and Macragge.

[crisp heath]

Imperial Agents

[green loom]

They sound based, unfortunate that I hate their colour scheme

[winter vessel]

Because blue?

[queen laurel]

do you play kill team?

[green loom]

Specific shade of blue

[jade holly]

Theoretically can’t you make your own Inquisition army with units from other armies (besides the big stuff like chaos and other Space Marines and Custodes)?

[crisp heath]

They call Guilliman a false primarch very explicitly

[green loom]

It just doesn't mesh with me

[jade holly]

I don’t play any tabletop but I’m watching a lot of tabletop

[burnt maple]

Holy shit xD I did not know that.

[winter vessel]

Alpha Legion blue is my favorite.

[green loom]

Imperial agents is that more or less

[crisp heath]

Yes it does ....you see the loophole I am talking about is one that involves how a chapter is limited to a certain number of space marines.

Inquisitor 28 is a fan-maintained game that's based around the inquisition, some rules are d&d type rpg and other rules are just very small scale 40k

[green loom]

Yeah there's no crusade loophole

[crisp heath]

It might be what you want

[green loom]

It's not a thing lol

The community just psyopped itself

[jade holly]

How high up are Witch hunters?

[crisp heath]

Inq28 is mostly a hobby who get 90% of their fun from the community and making minis, not actually playing the game, though

[jade holly]

In terms of authority in the Imperium?

[green loom]

Boundless like any other inquisition body

[winter vessel]

wasn't the minimum size of the organization for the Legiones Astartes 10,000? BT are about as close as we could get to a legion then?

[burnt maple]

Inquisitors. As any other Inquisitor.

[jade holly]

Oh so Rogue Traders and Witch Hunters count as Inquisition?

or am I misunderstanding?

[green loom]

They're never in one place and have horrific casualties

[green loom]

Not rogue Traders, they're their own brand of "above the law"

[crisp heath]

Witch Hunters are Ordo Hereticus of the Inquisition

[green loom]

But witch hunters ar- what they said

[winter vessel]

Fair. Considering the amount of Emperor's Champions they burn through every crusade with

[crisp heath]

Rogue Traders technically have less power than inquisitors, but in practice they're almost untouchable

[burnt maple]

Yes and no. Witch hunters are Inquisitors of Ordo Hereticus or Ordo Malleus.

[jade holly]

So they’re a tier above your usual Inquisitor?

[crisp heath]

No, equal

[jade holly]

Ah ok

[green loom]

Yeah they're all equal

[crisp heath]

All Inquisitors are answerable to no one except other inquisitors

[jade holly]

Ever since I saw this image I’ve wanted to play one

[green loom]

Specific strength varies based on invidividuals

[jade holly]

Zealot skin when

[winter vessel]

Much as I like the Guard. Working in a Rogue Trader's retinue is about as close to a good life you can live in 40k.

[crisp heath]

There are Lord Inquisitors, but those are just highly respected individuals, it's not like, a proper hierarchy

[tulip brook]

unless an inquisitor touches them

[burnt maple]

Rogue Traders have 'warrants of trade' that allow them to do the fuck they want so long it benefits the Imperium.

[green loom]

Yeah your power as an inquisitor revolves entirely around how well you can actually practice said power

[queen laurel]

Inquisitorial Agents are coming to Kill Team

[burnt maple]

Some of these were signed by tye Emperor himself.

[green loom]

Like

Yeah tommy from maintenance will believe you if you say you're an inquisitor

[jade holly]

I guess that’s where the Rogue in Rogue Trader comes from

[winter vessel]

Rogue trader: "Not to worry, i have a permit" hands it to an Inquisitor Inquisitor: "this just says" I can do what I want". "

[crisp heath]

Seriously, look into Inq28, it's all supported by fans so it's free except for the minis and using 3rd party minis is highly recommended so you can kitbash for cheap

[jade holly]

Doing some nigh heretical shit to benefit the Imperium

[tulip brook]

as always, practicality plays a role too, last time an inquisitor tried to boss around space wolves and custodes... it didn't go as planned

[burnt maple]

And it fucking works to a degree.

[green loom]

But Militant General Megul Warpbane who is 406 years old with 3 crusade victories under his belt will be harder to sway

[crisp heath]

There are role-play heavy versions of the game so you can actually play as your inquisitor, which isn't how 40k games usually work

[queen laurel]

Speaking of rogue trader I heard they can have worlds under their thumb like control them

Is this true

[burnt maple]

An inquisitor needs PROOFS of treachery to do anything to a rogue trader.

[crisp heath]

Yeah they have trade empires which are basically real empires

[queen laurel]

they can have their own planets

The power that comes with one isn't something to underestimate huh

[jade holly]

Damn Rogue Traders sound like they’d be very elitist and egotistical ngl

[crisp heath]

They usually have multiple planets, "for safekeeping", you know, "until the imperium claims them"

[burnt maple]

Rogue trader shows up with an aeldari escort? The inquisitor can have a cardic arrest out of anger, but cant forbid it.

[crisp heath]

Really they're building mini empires on the fringes of Imperial space

[green loom]

They're literally just prospectors lol

But considerably larger scale

[winter vessel]

Inquisitor: "HNNNGGH!" collapses on floor in a seizure

[green loom]

You find a perfect colony world
You gain absurd political clout
You find a resource rich shit hole
You gain absurd profits

[queen laurel]

I'm not kidding like if you have an ork you can even have him in the crew, just find a way to get rid of the spores that is coming out of him to not infect a spot and he will be allowed to accompany you

[green loom]

Unless you meet a radical

[burnt maple]

Eeeeh, no. Businessmen, warriors, explorers... Depends on a rogue trader, what suits his fancy.

[crisp heath]

I like how Rogue Traders were made specifically so you could have a 40k character who isn't an evil asshole, and everyone collectively decided they were actually the biggest dicks of them all

[winter vessel]

Sounds like a weird way of pet grooming to avoid shedding.

[tulip brook]

radical one materializes a demon after collapsing

[green loom]

If it's a radical they'll probably start courting the damn thing

[burnt maple]

XD

Radicals are dangerous.

[crisp heath]

There are radical inquisitors who think they can use Chaos to resurrect the Emperor, which is just hilarious to me

[crisp heath]

If you want the same result in a techpriest give them one of these.

[queen laurel]

orks don't have hair though, just let's say you have some kind of cream that kills that come out of him

[winter vessel]

what do you think gets better results. Radical or Puritan?

[tulip brook]

depends on individual

[green loom]

They're probably not wrong
The results would likely be catastrophic and awful
But they're probably not wrong

[burnt maple]

Lmao, no answer.

[green loom]

Both

Neither

[queen laurel]

It really depends because a puritan inquisitor once I'm pretty sure decided to genocide multiple worlds to just avert the tyranids I mean it work but you know innocence loss

and a radical is a radical

[green loom]

Kryptman was a radical I think

[winter vessel]

Hehehehehe Kryptman

[queen laurel]

oh he was

[green loom]

Radical can fairly consistently translate to "at any cost"

[tulip brook]

puritans have the consistency but some problems require extraordinary solutions

[winter vessel]

Bet they froth at the mouth in rage when they see Deathwatch experiment on xenos weaponry

[burnt maple]

Let us not forget that puritan/radical are only ideologies.

There are also FACTIONS within the Inquisition that regularly cull one another.

[tulip brook]

given their job, most of them probably end up doing some radical stuff either way

[green loom]

And puritan/radical are both more a scale than hard labels

[crisp heath]

Speaking of whihc waht is with the emchanicus and worshiping toasters.

[burnt maple]

Ywp.

[crisp heath]

Is there some sort of hisotrty behind that or.

[burnt maple]

Yes.

[tulip brook]

what's wrong with that? toasters are cute

[queen laurel]

it's a joke, the mechanicus worship old technology toaster is old technology they worship it

[green loom]

Tech cult that may or may not have been influenced by a certain shard of a certain thing being on their planet

[winter vessel]

sigh if only it was a rice cooker

[crisp heath]

Oh my God my discord keeps crashing trying to send the filtered message, so I reopen it, and it automatically sends it again, and it crashes again

[green loom]

I've never used a toaster, I prefer microwaves

[storm jungle]

Do people even use toasters anymore

[crisp heath]

I had to move lightning fast to intercept it so I could break the loop

[green loom]

I hate toast

[storm jungle]

get machine spirited nerd

[queen laurel]

i don't know to be fair it's just that it only cooks bread most of the time

[winter vessel]

or a pop tart

[queen laurel]

I could literally just pop that thing in a toaster oven if I wanted to toast bread

[crisp heath]

Anyway, re: inquisitors, puritans are usually absolutely terrible but probably have a moral compass keeping them in check. A radical could either be the friendliest guy in the galaxy, only executing the most severe of heretics, or worse than Horus

Puritans are terrible in a consistent way, radicals are completely unpredictable

[burnt maple]

Inquisitors are NEVER friendly. Radicals recognize heresy - they simple are willing to fight fire with fire.

[queen laurel]

a puritan will only use this method because you can predict what they believe in, a radical can literally pull out a giant alien gun they just have in their pocket because well they got it

[green loom]

"he's not a puritan, he's not even a radical! He is, and may Malcador forgive me for uttering these words, a Pacifist!"

[burnt maple]

Boom, another civil war in a sector over a rumored xenotech somebody has.

Emperoor, I love me some inquisitorial politics.

[burnt maple]

LOOOOOOOOL

[crisp heath]

You just know there's some inquisitor sitting on a backwater world in his massive, golden palace, being served by pretty peasant girls, who sends heads of people who died of plague stamped "nurgle cultist" to the nearest Inquisitor Lord to "prove" he's doing his job and should stay there indefinitely

[burnt maple]

Nah.

[winter vessel]

first time learning them was through the phrase, "Innocence proves nothing". that alone was enough to tell me how far down the moral ladder these guys are.

[burnt maple]

Inquisitors are scrutinized for their work.

Remember: the Inquisition is the most paranoid organization in galaxy.

[crisp heath]

Inquisitor Toth seemed rather chill.

[green loom]

You also terrify the shit out of everyone, so if they can get away with killing you, they'll probably just do it

[crisp heath]

Second most, the most paranoid organization is the place that supplies Vect's body doubles

[burnt maple]

Being chill and being friendly is a different manner.

[tulip brook]

secret police of galaxy with near infinite resources

[burnt maple]

An Inquisitor can literally treat you likehis own grandchild - just to get information, have a use of you.

[storm jungle]

Nah

some are good people forced to do evil things

its literally their job description

[winter vessel]

"why would you murder the entire hive city?!" Inquisitor: "Ah, eto...BLEH!" puts both hands on head

[crisp heath]

He comfortbed Gabriel when the future Chapter master was forced to execute a close from the Heresy as weell as remind him that Cyrine was not his fault to not blame himself.

There are plenty of genuinely humane inquisitors

[storm jungle]

yeah this

you balance that niceness by making them have to do bad stuff to protect the Imperium

[crisp heath]

They'll still kill a heretic, but they're genuinely nice people when work isn't involved

[storm jungle]

being an Inquisitor is an extremely thankless job

nobody will care about the sacrifices you make

so that takes its toll

[burnt maple]

Being humane, having humane reactions is not being friendly.

[storm jungle]

We arent talking about that

[queen laurel]

man this is just the green goblin quote from spiderman all over again

[storm jungle]

lol

we are talking about them treating the acts they do with sorrow and not giddiness

[winter vessel]

😆 yeah

[storm jungle]

and not treating their retinue members like shit

or canon-fodder

[crisp heath]

Willem Dafoe would make a great Inquisitor

Cavill better cast him

[queen laurel]

100%

He can even act as crazy as one

[burnt maple]

Again,depends on person.

[winter vessel]

"do you know how much I SACRIFICED?!" that can work as something an Inquisitor would say

[crisp heath]

General Zola is another example of the inuqisiton not being that bad as people think by introducing our character a former Criminal into the warband she was sticking out her neck a fair bit.

[storm jungle]

Yes. Thats what we are saying.

[burnt maple]

Some inquisitors do a general purge of every planet they investigate just for the kick of power,lol.

[storm jungle]

💀

[queen laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-green-goblin-norman-osborn-love-more-hero-gif-24182986

[storm jungle]

this was basically Eisenhorn

[storm jungle]

Its not power, they do it because they deem it fit and to be the "right" thing.

[crisp heath]

Oh no back to Emperor's Spears posting: the plot twist gutted me in "Spears of the Emperor"

[storm jungle]

that doesnt mean its correct

but power hungry inquisitors get removed fast

[tulip brook]

they are constantly dealing with "shit hits the fan" situations. that should come with a certain harshness but no point in discussing their morality

[crisp heath]

I did not genuinely hate the Inquisition until that plot twist

[burnt maple]

By the book? Yes.

Some use said book for the kick.

[green loom]

For every Toth there's a Coteaz

[storm jungle]

Nah

power hungry inquisitors dont last long

if ever

[burnt maple]

They are still humans. And some are power hungry sadists.

[storm jungle]

Their colleagues or ambitions still kill them at the end of the day

[queen laurel]

They are these guys right the ones with the Spartan aesthetic

[storm jungle]

no Inquisitor goes unchecked

they basically police themselves

[green loom]

The good ones end up dead, the bad ones also end up dead

[storm jungle]

^

[burnt maple]

They dont last long, true. But long enough to earn themselves their untimely demise.

[queen laurel]

Giving authority to someone with that much freedom is a death sentence unless you always keep a sniper rifle ready to pull the trigger on their head

[storm jungle]

its a self-fufilling prophecy

[winter vessel]

hmm really? I always felt like that went to the Minotaurs

[green loom]

There's probably inquisitors that do this

[crisp heath]

Inquistor Zola kind of did that by introduing our chatcter into the Warband.

Huge spoiler:

||The Chapter Master of the Celestial Lions had just teamed up with the Spears to completely destroy the Chaos presence in the sector, and then its revealed the protagonists were tricked into sneaking an assassin into the meeting by the Inquisition, who assassinates him over that whole "whistle-blower" thing and dooms the sector and the chapter||

[queen laurel]

Yeah that is true it's more in the minotaurs

[crisp heath]

Celts, but yeah that's them

[burnt maple]

She aint inquisitor.

[crisp heath]

Romanized celts, I should say

[green loom]

Zola isn't an inquisitor

[winter vessel]

Explicator

[crisp heath]

Well they have a feraking servitor leading this branch of the inquison so....

[queen laurel]

Always like how they looked

[green loom]

Technically it's Rannick leading the branch

[crisp heath]

I mostly love them for the Druids tbh

[winter vessel]

yeah. The servitor was the equivalent of being on a Payphone call with your boss.

[crisp heath]

So this is what grendel is to the inquisiton then?

Their tech marines, librarians, chaplains, and apothecaries are all part of a Druid order in black armor and even though they specialized they can all do the job of the other

[burnt maple]

And as long as reports and RESULTS check out, a safist is free.
Then comes the retribution in form of another inquisitor that deems this guy a maniac and kills him.

[crisp heath]

Emperor's Spears druids are so cool and it's a shame it doesn't really translate to tabletop

[green loom]

Grendyl is probably running a much larger operation

[queen laurel]

ohhh that's cool

[green loom]

Rannick's warband is likely just a major asset

[crisp heath]

You just have apothecaries or tech marines in black armor on the table but the lore is much cooler

So the whole I am a warrior scnee was a glrofied Zoom meeting.

[patent ivy]

Is the cannon team comp 1 of each class?

[storm jungle]

Correct

[crisp heath]

Yes lol

[storm jungle]

Grendyl has important shit to do

[burnt maple]

Eh, yes.

[winter vessel]

but it was fun, i kinda like the speech

[queen laurel]

yep

[crisp heath]

There's more than 1 reject team, but more or less

[storm jungle]

They really arent

anything big an inquisitor does will get found out

[warm notch]

Do you think Rannick is 💅

[winter vessel]

tf

[storm jungle]

judgement is not passed on like its nothing and you cannot get away without consequences

[crisp heath]

Each voice is a distinct character but because of the whole "player character" thing it's hard to say what exactly they look or act like ''canonically"

[green loom]

When will they send a hunter after you

[burnt maple]

Never said it will.

Hence untimely demises.

[storm jungle]

HUNTER FROM L4D????

https://tenor.com/view/l4d2-hunter-left4dead2-louis-mod-gif-23718796

[warm notch]

Hunters are kinda hot ngl

[storm jungle]

💀

[queen laurel]

i'm going to feed you to a tank

[warm notch]

Like?????

[green loom]

Average Night Out in Ankara

[warm notch]

That hoodie 😳

[crisp heath]

THANK YOU I TOLD MY HOMIE THIS IN 8TH GRADE AND HE CALLED ME GAY

[storm jungle]

the best part is that footage is a mod

the Hunter usually fucking mauls you to death

[queen laurel]

yeah i was wondering what was off with it

[winter vessel]

witches scared me

[queen laurel]

Oh yeah they're not ripping out my *** **** intestines

[warm notch]

Stop stop I'm already so attracted to them

[crisp heath]

No one of these ladies are sent.

[storm jungle]

ah yes

what happens when you can tell the entire studio is filled with guys

Overwatch character design

[green loom]

In fairness the dudes aren't better

[warm notch]

LOL

wtf is that design

[queen laurel]

a tyranid stands in front of you you will say "bite me daddy" wouldn't you ?

[crisp heath]

Assassins look like they hang out in the same bar as the Lion if you catch my drift

[winter vessel]

That's not an entire studio is filled with guys. BEHOLD! Dramatically unfolds poster

[warm notch]

yes

[crisp heath]

Trust me you don't want to see one of these ladies when they appear that is because someone of high rank committed heresy and needs to be removes silently and that includes all witnesses.

[storm jungle]

I have a shotgun so

[crisp heath]

Haha stolen necron phase weapons go zzzzt

[warm notch]

What ladies need is battle gear that specifically accentuates their boobas

That definitely makes it better

[queen laurel]

Alright I have now predicted your behavior patterns

[warm notch]

Was I ever trying to be unpredictable? 💀

[queen laurel]

Should be easy to not be weirded out with the **** you say

[storm jungle]

get em Bulgur

[winter vessel]

loads bolter with malicious intent

[warm notch]

CLOSE, KILL, AND DO IT AGAIN

[storm jungle]

Kill for my entertainment

[crisp heath]

Yall just don't understand the appeal of tyranids, clearly

[queen laurel]

ohh you radical inquisitor, why is it always me who is the meat shield

[warm notch]

IF YOU CAN BREATHE YOU CAN KILL

[warm notch]

Do you think Rannick is a Xenny

[storm jungle]

no

heres Hereticus 💀

[winter vessel]

what like a tervigon? The thing that presses its birthing sac on a wall to release termegaunts?

[crisp heath]

Good choice

[burnt maple]

There is none.

[warm notch]

that funny animated series with space marines fighting furries like

Who tf thought of that 💀

I wonder if its canon

[queen laurel]

It's just one of the old parts of the Internet

[warm notch]

What are the lore implications of colorful furries

[burnt maple]

Ofc not.

[crisp heath]

Should've bought that instead of Astartes and put it on WH+

[storm jungle]

Jackie im legit gonna shoot you with a nerf gun

[winter vessel]

throw a void grenade

[warm notch]

This is so sad

[burnt maple]

Make it a sharp ammo nerf gin.

Gun.

[warm notch]

You should shoot me with that time eraser gun that erases the people from time when they're shot

[storm jungle]

Almost like

its a time-eraser gun

[warm notch]

NO WAY

[winter vessel]

No...put em in the walls looks at Schola Progenium building

[crisp heath]

TBH I have only seen once converation involinv 40K lore that made me laugh out loud.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RWBY/comments/j3nlhr/can_rwby_survive_in_warhammer_40k_inspired/

[queen laurel]

Oh boy

[storm jungle]

RWBY

40k

[queen laurel]

hold on let me get my mega armor

[storm jungle]

both fandoms make me wanna die

so its a lose-lose situation

[warm notch]

Clicks video
40 min

Ain't nobody got time for that

[storm jungle]

should have been "which fandom is cringier"

[winter vessel]

I pour one out to Monty.

[warm notch]

Fallout fandom honestly

[storm jungle]

Lmao

[warm notch]

CAESER IS BASED CAESER IS BASED

[crisp heath]

The answer is Hell no.

[warm notch]

NO NO YOU DONT GET IT

[storm jungle]

The answer is both universes suck

[queen laurel]

I still don't know what's wrong with those people

like i can't last even just few minutes with the legion

[winter vessel]

I never liked RWBY's idea on weaponry. cough gunblade.

[queen laurel]

trying to be the bad guy i'm a bad guy but not that much of a bad guy

[storm jungle]

Im glad 40k is not like that

oh wait

[crisp heath]

Gunblades are the only cool part of it and also historically accurate

[winter vessel]

[queen laurel]

i will kill people a quick merciful death

i will not torture them because that's just no fun

fallout new Vegas totally allows you to be the most psychopathic psychopath to have ever psychopathed

[crisp heath]

I am a man who belives int he greater good that is why I chose Mr House.

[lapis wadi]

Freeside best option

[tulip brook]

electrified spears with mini missile launcher attached... I'm ok with gunblade

[storm jungle]

You chose Mr House because you think he will save the wasteland.

I chose Mr House because im an evil asshat and hes funny af

[warm notch]

Do bisexuals in the 40k universe have a 10% damage bonus to both genders like in Fallout New Vegas?

[storm jungle]

LMAO

STOP

[crisp heath]

I'm the only trans person who has never played a fallout game ama

[warm notch]

why

[queen laurel]

there is the other option

becomes the lord death of murder mountain

[winter vessel]

STONKS. NCR ending for me because I'm too much of a goody two shoes.

[crisp heath]

Mom didn't let me play video games as a youngin

[warm notch]

I played Fallout 3 and instantly thought it sucked

The vomit filter made me so sick

I should've played New Vegas this is so sad

[crisp heath]

No the wasteland is fucked Mr house even garees with that ....he plans to bascially do what did in Outer worlds and find a more habitable planet for th ehuman race.

[winter vessel]

I actually learned how to play blackjack more better because of NV. When to hit and knowing which hand to hold, or split.

[storm jungle]

the human race can SUCK me

[tulip brook]

I played FO4 recently. I got so bored I quit around midway to the story

[winter vessel]

i was 13

[warm notch]

Fallout 4 with mods is so much fun tbh

[queen laurel]

Yeah I played it and I don't even plan on just grinding the game I'm cheating as ****

[warm notch]

Much more fun than St*rfield

[queen laurel]

also fuck shaun

[warm notch]

Call me Horus cuz I'm about to commit patricide

[crisp heath]

Only thing F4 did right was power armor.

[queen laurel]

ohh definitely it actually makes you feel like tank

[arctic talon]

nah the actual guns

feel better in Fallout 4

[winter vessel]

"another settlement needs your help" Man B* Fuck you!. I'm gonna mark your grave on the map when Im through with you.

[arctic talon]

then other fallout games lol

[queen laurel]

Also that

[lapis wadi]

NCR win a bad option for NCR in the future. Its why I go Freeside. NCR needs to be pushed back from rampant expansion and start developing internal infrastructure.
The Strip is a white elephant that will divert massive amounts of resources to it from the NCR. Instead I stop them at the Mojave, and force them to trade with a political player they can't just roll over and crush economically.

Yes I know this is the 40k lore channel. So uh.. wonder how laser rifles compare to Lasguns.

[queen laurel]

Definitely because of the modern game engines allowing more freedom basically

[tulip brook]

that actually made me quit, too many settlements and followers I don't care about

[queen laurel]

preston garvey can suck my ass

[arctic talon]

Laser rifles seem pretty destructive, and much more destructive to the flesh then lasguns

[warm notch]

Fallout 4 with the Horizon mod makes the game infinitely better to play through

[arctic talon]

Like

it disintegrates people lol

[warm notch]

If you guys ever want to play through it again you should

[arctic talon]

Lasguns just blow holes in them

Which is still very high power

[crisp heath]

Fuck Maxen too Lyons is spinning in his grave.

[queen laurel]

They also have like plasma rifles that don't hit as hard as are plasma rifles but it's basically cheaper to make and it's quite dangerous because they literally turn people to Goo

[lapis wadi]

Hate how idealistic the Minuteman are, there's no bite, no compromise, no.. human messiness.
Just "we help people :))))"

[arctic talon]

Maxen ironically is more in line with the true brotherhood of steel

Then again

the west coast brother hood of steel went native lol

[winter vessel]

one day, after I had already completed everything in FO4. I took Jet, Psycho, AND PsychoJet. Equipped my Fat Man Launcher and wiped everyone in the Commonwealth from Existence.

[queen laurel]

Even the evil option in the game feels boring

[arctic talon]

The BoS in FO3 is like

[queen laurel]

You're telling me I still need the Commonwealth faction to beat the institute

[arctic talon]

the least BoS out of all the brother hoods of steel

[queen laurel]

I can't just raid their place as a Raider just right

[warm notch]

I wonder what hyperfixation I can connect to 40k tomorrow to annoy everybody in this channel again

[crisp heath]

Though say what you want about F4 at least its not 76.

[arctic talon]

Also yeah its pretty funny that the NCR taking New Vegas would be pretty self destructive

[queen laurel]

ohh yeah no

[arctic talon]

to their other less developed areas

[queen laurel]

that one can burn in hell

[arctic talon]

Mostly since they'd overinvest in it

also where NCR cars I know its because the engine hates vehicles but its still dissapointing lol

[queen laurel]

Yeah if the brotherhood of steel was actually smart they wouldn't even be here and wouldn't have even taken the power plant

Fallout new Vegas brotherhood of steel is practically nonexistent

[arctic talon]

The Mojave Chapter of the brotherhood of steel were pretty crippled

compared to other chapters tbf

Like they cut ties with the west coast Brotherhood lol

[queen laurel]

Yeah no definitely they were crippled trying to defend helios

[arctic talon]

yeah

also I'm still salty we didn't get a followers of the apocalypse ending

since we were gona get one originally

[queen laurel]

Only to get a one intelligence ******* to have access to a super weapon

[arctic talon]

and it got cut

[winter vessel]

For me its the best case Scenario. Caesar we know is Option F for "Fuck Dat". an Independent Vegas only leads to more Anarchy. And I never trusted that Overgrown Microwave Yes Man from the start. House Is a valid option but I was skeptical of an autocracy.

[arctic talon]

NCR taking over Mojave is arguably the best for the Mojave

[lapis wadi]

With what resources, who funds the Minuteman, who decides who gets their protection in civil disputes, are the Minutemen trying to be police or military, will they cede their duty to another faction in the future if a nation develops or colonises the commonwealth, who watches the watchmen.. so many bits of nuance I want to know.
There's no cells Ican see, do they take prisoners or is just lethal force only?

Minutemen suck.

[arctic talon]

but it also is a fucking issue for the NCR

since now they need to begin developing all this territory

to the level of the rest of the NCR

[queen laurel]

I kid you not the Minutemen literally relied on you the general to do the ******* dirty work

[arctic talon]

Which has a pretty decent standard of living

[queen laurel]

I'm pretty sure they have regained the significant portion of their soldiers why is it me who has to deal with the Raiders

[crisp heath]

I disageewe Mr House might be not good in the short term but hes our best chance or rebuilding the old world or finding a new one where we can do that.

[arctic talon]

compared to the Mojave where its a roll of a d100

[queen laurel]

I mean yes I have a power armor and fat man but come on

[lapis wadi]

Minutemen are just the equivalent of Elder Scrolls guards. They appear like mildew in the guard barracks with no humanity to them

[queen laurel]

Why can't I send the ******* soldiers who I own to deal with the problem

[arctic talon]

House is good for the strip and areas around it, but the rest of the Mojave might be left to rot potentially

[lapis wadi]

You never see those guards take their armor off on their days off

They're too NPC-ish

[queen laurel]

skyrim guards are more bland than vanilla ice cream

[winter vessel]

I base it on a "what would give better long term results". The NCR has a lot of flaws, no lie, but its certainly better than being under the thumb of Tyranny with grown men cosplaying as Roman soldiers. House Only invests in Vegas, so that is limited.

[arctic talon]

Legion is by far the the worst option lol

Like

its going to fucking implode

the moment Caser dies

[lapis wadi]

You see why I hate the Minutemen now

[queen laurel]

no contest

[arctic talon]

beyond just the general

slavery

and other horrible things

[queen laurel]

Let's see

[lapis wadi]

Yeah there's no real upside to Legion. Wow they keep.. safe trade links? That's thr best you got?

[queen laurel]

opens the bible of caesar

this is too long

[crisp heath]

Actually house had bigger plans he was going to FUck earth and leave to find a non nuked planet to colonize.

[arctic talon]

The reason why is they weren't going to be an ending originally

but they had to scrap several other ones

[storm jungle]

I love how Caesar is like

"Yeah I just opened a history book and made these morons follow me."

[arctic talon]

so they had to glue together the legion as an ending

lol

which is

fine

but it really fucking shows

[winter vessel]

Joshua Graham is still my favorite character in NV to this day.

[queen laurel]

OK so i base my society on one of the worst things possible I don't like taxes even though the society I have extremely loves it

[lapis wadi]

Also you can be a female courier and back thr Legion if you're somehow -1 Int

[arctic talon]

Joshua Graham is quite cool

[queen laurel]

brother what the **** does he want

[arctic talon]

"you're one of the good ones"

💀

just ignore the fact that the slaves warn you that a bunch of the members of the legion are sizing you up

and are probably going to try to kill/rape you

[lapis wadi]

Why not both

[arctic talon]

most likely both

[queen laurel]

and you know what's funny?

this said girl can rip a human's head off with her bare hands and carry a mini gun no problem they will still do it

[warm notch]

"Do you know Hegelian Dialectics?" is like the nerdiest thing you can ever talk about

[winter vessel]

I could listen to him read the Book of Revelation and not get tired. And the VA did the Doctor in Dead Space. The only other decent human being throughout that game.

[arctic talon]

The Legion is the definition of unsustainable

[lapis wadi]

Apparently Ceasar doesn't even get them right. Not qualified to say either way.

[queen laurel]

Arcade literally offed himself because Caesar was talking too much

and that guy was a respected scientist

[storm jungle]

THE best response to say to someone in any scenario.

"Why do you hate Space Marines so much man?"

Me: It's Hegelian Dialectics, not personality animosity

[arctic talon]

I don't even think the Legion look cool

they look like a bunch of Roman LARPers

[warm notch]

I don't know them either, but no normal person would ever apply theory to a conversation with another person to persuade them

[arctic talon]

in football gear

[warm notch]

Its such a funny touch

[crisp heath]

Do you know what is funny ...When I saw point lookout the first thing I fought was "It seems that bombs did not hit Rural Georigia.

[warm notch]

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fgm1gm3885ro81.jpg

[lapis wadi]

I'll give Ceasar this, he does recognise this and wants to move to a peacetime Legion after Vegas.
But like.. wheres your architects, your lawmakers, your teachers bro? You brought tribal thugs and yesmen

[winter vessel]

Headcanon: “Caesar started talking about the world of 40k”

[lapis wadi]

Caesar kept going on about how Chaos are actually rhe good guys

[arctic talon]

answer is enslave the existing population

I'm not joking

I'm like 99% sure

thats his plan

[winter vessel]

Caesar said “Magnus did nothing wrong” and that was enough for Arcade to silt his own throat

[queen laurel]

"Arcade, have you heard of the glory of the emperor?"

"It was the most glorious thing I've ever heard"

"it comes from a series that calls itself warhammer 40k"

"i especially like the Night Lords and the ecclesiarchy"

[crisp heath]

Once read a fan fic where this guy was the sucessor to the god emperor.

[warm notch]

Isn't that Lelouche

[winter vessel]

Some dude with pink eye?

[crisp heath]

Yes.

[queen laurel]

It's an anime character where his entire point is being smart

[warm notch]

And his super power is literally saying "nuh uh"

[winter vessel]

So tumblr?

[queen laurel]

warhammer players when you tell them that what they believe in is not right

[winter vessel]

A friend introduced me to this back in my HS years…and I still don’t get it.

[crisp heath]

Also speakong of smart guys thig guy would fit right in with 40K or fantasy.

[queen laurel]

it looks like a crusty elf who is this guy

i'm not that deep into elder scrolls lore

[crisp heath]

I pity your childhood.

[queen laurel]

brother I live in the Philippines we don't have a lot of that shit here

[warm notch]

Michael Kirkbride really was on some wild shit when he wrote the lore

We love him for it

[winter vessel]

Luzon or Visayas?

[lapis wadi]

Arcade runs Tau
Raul is Knights
Boone is Dark Angels
Lily is Orks
Rose is Guard
Veronica is AdMech

[queen laurel]

Yeah I'm in Visayas

[crisp heath]

That is from Legaxy of Kain.

[winter vessel]

Cool. I lived in Luzon for a while, got family there. Last time I was in Visayas was a trip to Bohol.

[queen laurel]

ain't that something

My father is from Bohol

[warm notch]

Because I'm Filipino, every Filipino person I see greets me in Tagalog. Its super awkward everytime having to explain that I don't know the language 😭

[winter vessel]

Y’know, just me, I always thought the Beaches in Bohol were nicer than Borocay

[queen laurel]

yeah the beaches there look very amazing

[queen laurel]

OK i know i'm sloppy with tagalog but what the hell

Since I spent most of my time on the Internet I don't use tagalog a lot

[winter vessel]

I know how to greet and say thank you so that’s about it

[warm notch]

Is it an American-Filipino thing???

Its prolly an American-Filipino thing 💀

[queen laurel]

no some filipino kids here grew up on like english heavy household

So yeah it's normal for someone to just speak English without even knowing their base language

So you probably just grew up into one

[queen laurel]

I had a friend once who told his brother that I'm taking a **** in Filipino is I love you

it did not end well

[warm notch]

lmao

[lapis wadi]

Talking about languages made me think about low/high gothic.
The Moebian sector does a good job in keeping their low gothic standardised, all the rejects speak freely despite being from a variety of planets.
Hope we see some true High Gothic nonsense tho. A zealot mumbling prayers in mangled Latin while on a killstreak

of course the real answer for the universal low gothic is that language barriers are boring

[warm notch]

There is a conversation with Female Loner Psyker criticizing Female Judge Zealot for having shitty high gothic lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czfopZHbZ9c

[lapis wadi]

Yeah she's just bullshitting in low gothic and speakingeth fancy

[winter vessel]

thats one of the best "I'm calling YOU out, bitch" moment i've seen in a game.

[lapis wadi]

I run that zealot voice, hope to get that conversation in the wild one day

[crisp heath]

Like literally an entire planet clensed by one Ultrasmurf breakie.

[winter vessel]

ah Mallum Caedo. The astartes who got his gene-seed switched with a Black Templar.

[lapis wadi]

Are there any lasguns that fire in beams?

[plush mason]

afaik they all do. just hold down the trigger but that will overheat it quick

[crisp heath]

No no no What happend was they found Doom guy Switched him to random Space marine whose gene seed has been damaged ...Mind wiped him ....stuffed him in a beakie suit.

[lapis wadi]

Even recon just pulse

[plush mason]

the pulse afaik is just the soldiers pressing and releasing the trigger

atleast for the standard

the recon idk

[lapis wadi]

I'd like a beam variants some time then, i just think it would be neat

[lapis wadi]

https://youtu.be/cSrdmYubl0A?si=n15r1haF0bQ0KCl_

Honestly tho, Ultramarines can be cool too

[plush mason]

they get memed on too hard

[winter vessel]

I still blame Ward

[plush mason]

i dont

poor sod got screwed by GW

they told him "write codex ultramarine" then when he was almost done they said "good now write the codex for the rest of the marines" but didnt give him any extra time to do that

typical management assholery

[winter vessel]

my biggest gripe was the 5th edition codex for the Grey Knights and Sororitas. it got a reaction out of me in the form of " What TF? Who TF? and Why TF?"

[plush mason]

yeah thats another matter

[arctic talon]

if we want to talk about balancing codex's

ward was

not great at that

The Grey Knights one was absurdly broken iirc

[plush mason]

reminds me of the meme of the CSM challanging the custodies and the custodies just says "this isnt the TT heretic" and the CSM runs away screaming lol

classic lore verse gameplay stuff

[arctic talon]

Bolter tabletop vs bolter lore

Shuriken rifle tabletop vs shuriken rifle lore

ect.

[plush mason]

oh so me and friend where listen to a leution09 video, its possible for dark eldar to get so high off of fear and suffering they can easily be ambushed and cut down?

[arctic talon]

yes

They get high

off of it

[plush mason]

the iron snakes did that on some mining world

[arctic talon]

if they're way too high

there's 0 way for them to like

be rational in combat

its also why the haemonculus in vaults of terra freaks out when he's on terra

there's so much suffering he's intoxicated by it and can't think straight

[queen laurel]

fallout protagonists injecting 50 types of drugs on their body

And they're about to send someone flying

[arctic talon]

thing is casulties in real space barely matter

to the Dark Eldar

mostly since any dark eldar in real space has a contract with a haemonclus coven to get revived

[queen laurel]

yeah they revive

[arctic talon]

Yeah

And unless you feel like attacking a haemonclus coven in comorroagh

[plush mason]

yeah 600 raiders likely meant nothing to the dark eldar kabol that sent them

[arctic talon]

well

it does mean something

[queen laurel]

The only factions I know where losing members is quite a big problem is the eldar and of course the necrons

[arctic talon]

it means they become a laughing stock lol

[plush mason]

true

[arctic talon]

for losing 600 Kabalites on an attack

[queen laurel]

Eldar reproduction is slower than Congress

[arctic talon]

and also while they're reviving 600 kabalites

[queen laurel]

Necrons can't reproduce

[arctic talon]

they're more vulnerable

[queen laurel]

they just have a lot of spares basically

[arctic talon]

Death matters to the Kabal/Cult

but the individual Dark Eldar isn't gona care too much

[plush mason]

it must have really hurt given it was only 40 SM and a few guardsman that did it lol

[arctic talon]

anyone participating in that raid would be a laughing stock

for years lol

and most likely get demoted lol

[plush mason]

yeah

[arctic talon]

was it a pure Kabalite raid as well lol

because those are even more "high profile"