The oldbeards who still hate Ward probably can't even remember what exactly he did.
#40k-lore-chat
verbal path
dusty comet
which is understandable
green loom
Apparently GK were his worst
dusty comet
oof
verbal path
They just know to hate him for some reason
green loom
The oldbeards who still hate Ward probably can't even remember what exactly he d...
I mean they probably can
storm jungle
GK were just OOF
dusty comet
The oldbeards who still hate Ward probably can't even remember what exactly he d...
honestly fitting for 40k
storm jungle
and people still hate them rightfully to this day lol
green loom
The ones who came after are the problem
verbal path
For a Chapter based on secrecy, they're as subtle as an ogryn's rock.
storm jungle
yeah 4chan is like the fandom's Inquisition in the sense that they are the originators of a lot of falsehoods in the 40k community
lol
dusty comet
For a Chapter based on secrecy, they're as subtle as an ogryn's rock.
technically no one saw you if you killed everyone that saw you
space shark logic and whatnot
green loom
Your favourite blorbo loses a finger to an Ork?
Fucking Matt Ward
Your faction doesn't win outright?
Fucking Matt Ward
A gun sight is slightly different between two depictions?
Fucking Matt Ward
dusty comet
technically no one saw you if you killed everyone that saw you
keep in mind this is the entire premise of the missions in darktide
technically these are stealth missions, and heretics arent by and large aware of them because we keep killing all the ones that saw us
green loom
I know it's not a meme either, since I used to be like this, and I've encountered dozens of brainlets who are exactly like I was 
dusty comet
Your favourite blorbo loses a finger to an Ork?
Fucking Matt Ward
Your faction d...
GW give me back my infinite range deathstrike missiles you dicks
storm jungle
I love playing in another country and launching a toy missile to kill the army of another person on the other side of the world
dusty comet
i want to help call a fucking missile strike on a board in australia
verbal path
*GW give me back my infinite range deathstrike missiles you dicks*
They got tired of me calling their HQ to say I'm dropping a death strike at random tables. 
dusty comet
bastards
green loom
I love playing in another country and launching a toy missile to kill the army o...
Dilara you don't need to cause another Cuban missile crisis
plush mason
yeah 4chan is like the fandom's Inquisition in the sense that they are the origi...
ngl im sure there is an ordo who's sole job is to make up coverstories for shit
dusty comet
i mean, you can still strike other tables i guess if your table is within 16ft of another table
plush mason
ofc
verbal path
i mean, you can still strike other tables i guess if your table is within 16ft o...
ITS NOT THE SAME.
dusty comet
ITS NOT THE SAME.
YOU DONT HAVE TO TELL ME THAT
plush mason
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ordo_Redactus
dont they just erase the story?
storm jungle
same thing tbh
plush mason
and the people that recorded it
plush mason
lol
dusty comet
fr tho, i remember listening to my friend who was playing for 9th edition, and was one of the ones who refused to play against tau
arctic talon
Why
dusty comet
gunlines
arctic talon
Tau was pretty balanced
Beyond the indirect bullshit
But that applied to guard as well
green loom
Weren't Tau Castles mostly like, an 8th Ed thing
arctic talon
Nah
dusty comet
hes said that they werent "fun" to fight
dusty comet
im still not sure what he meant unless he meant theyre not satisfying to fight, because realistically he plays the same against them that he does imperial guard armies
green loom
You do play Admech
arctic talon
Tau are fun to me because they really emphasize good positioning
dusty comet
im not the only one who thinks that tau and imperial guard kinda play the same right?
arctic talon
They play
Really similar lol
IG just has better melee and slightly worse shooting
dusty comet
i mean that makes sense though
arctic talon
Now granted IG melee is still not stellar
green loom
And more world of tanks/less gundam
dusty comet
my brother would probably play tau or collect the models just for the mechs alone because he currently collects gundam
arctic talon
The 3 leman Russ’s advancing 9 inches is more of a gundam then a battle suit
green loom
my brother would probably play tau or collect the models just for the mechs alon...
He might do eldar or heaven forbid imperial knights instead
arctic talon
Imperial guard tanks moving faster then an eldar bike because a man in a hat yelled at them
plush mason
so i know flak carapace and ceramite all have materials that can resist lasers but is there any armor that can resist like plasma or other energy attacks?
arctic talon
so i know flak carapace and ceramite all have materials that can resist lasers b...
Auramite sorta
verbal path
Gimme enough flak and I'll block plasma.
dusty comet
He might do eldar or heaven forbid imperial knights instead
ngl i would do imperial knights even if forge world is just daylight robbery
green loom
Imp knights aren't Forgeworld
dusty comet
theyre not?
arctic talon
No
green loom
Not the main ones
arctic talon
They’re GW
normal light
Eldar fate dices 💀
dusty comet
ah
arctic talon
Eldar fate dices 💀
Plot armor isn’t a material smh
dusty comet
who does titans then?
plush mason
Plasma is pretty brutal
yeah its "here have a small proto star for breakfest"
green loom
Like the Porphyron
arctic talon
who does titans then?
Forgeworld
dusty comet
ah
green loom
Useful for big armour bits as it turns out
normal light
Plot armor isn’t a material smh
Meme is that the problem is how they were made , because Sororitas have similar mechanic
arctic talon
But that’s more of the wraith construct not giving a fuck it’s missing half its face
normal light
Meme is that the problem is how they were made , because Sororitas have similar...
But they don’t get a lot of them at start
arctic talon
Then wraithbone protecting you
normal light
But they don’t get a lot of them at start
Also Eldar units are memes
plush mason
Then wraith bone technically lol
what is wraithbone anyway? is it like the crystals that make up halo spartan armor but with 40k brand psykic warp fuckery mixed in?
normal light
Also Eldar units are memes
With combination of dices
arctic talon
what is wraithbone anyway? is it like the crystals that make up halo spartan arm...
It’s literal physical warpstuff
Sorta like warpstone
But less volatile
dusty comet
theres a joke that the sororitas have boob armor so that people know that they're women because if they didnt, theyd accuse the eccliessiarchy of having men under arms again
arctic talon
It needs to be “sung” into existance
plush mason
Sorta like warpstone
but can you snort it is the real question now :P /jk
arctic talon
but can you snort it is the real question now :P /jk
Prolly
normal light
https://tenor.com/view/skaven-to-war-vermintide-gif-15706902
Warpstone!
arctic talon
It’s psychically active
It’s why craftworld eldar gear and eldar empire stuff
Is unusable unless you’re a psyker
normal light
It’s psychically active
As I remember Eldar get those from their original worlds in Eye of Terror
arctic talon
Those are soul stones
normal light
Yep
arctic talon
They “rain” on their former worlds
normal light
Wanted to correct
plush mason
Is unusable unless you’re a psyker
hey if the great awakening plays out in full then humans will be just like eldar and they can use it then :P
snow fern
Man, you ever just murder fuck a deity of excess into existence screwing over everyone else in the process
arctic talon
Craftworld eldar stuck suffering because of the sins of their great great great cousins thrice removed
plush mason
They “rain” on their former worlds
they literally have to go into hell to find the stones that are the only way to ensure the safety of their souls. thats deep when you think about it
snow fern
At least Eldar might feel bad about it, unlike Elder Scrolls elves who want to literally end reality cause they’re smug bastards
arctic talon
It’s a bit funny the craftworld eldar feel bad about it
They literally had 0 part in it
Then again
Literal hole in reality
plush mason
they ran away and did nothing
dusty comet
dark eldar can piss off
arctic talon
Tbf not like they could have done anything
snow fern
Apathy is death
arctic talon
Against the eldar empire
dusty comet
feed those mf to slaneesh
verbal path
They tried warning people and they didn't listen.
arctic talon
Yeah
verbal path
Time to flee on the boats and live instead.
arctic talon
They did try
plush mason
Tbf not like they could have done anything
i know but thats where their guilt comes from is what im saying
verbal path
snow fern
https://tenor.com/view/thalmor-nervous-demanding-gif-11021863
God I hate the Thalmor, I’ll get es6 if it means killing them bastards
verbal path
plush mason
God I hate the Thalmor, I’ll get es6 if it means killing them bastards
ngl es6 will likely be set well well after the time of skyrim. like all the other games where
arctic talon
I hold 0 sympathy for the dark eldar
dusty comet
They tried warning people and they didn't listen.
to be fair the craftworlders tried to warn fulgrim who was very much compromised at this point
snow fern
They literally sat him down and said don’t touch the dildosword
arctic talon
Fate trolled him on that day
snow fern
And what did he do
dusty comet
this was after he touched the dildosword no?
verbal path
One of the few times I think Eldar gave a straightforward warning and it still didn't work.
dusty comet
One of the few times I think Eldar gave a straightforward warning and it still d...
because they gave it to the wrong fucking person
crisp heath
I mean he had to pick the one asshole out of all 18 assholes who was least likely to just flip the chessboard when he heard something he didn't like
dusty comet
robot girly man
arctic talon
I mean fulgrim was pretty levelheaded
dusty comet
vulkan
arctic talon
Pre sword lol
crisp heath
Before picking up the Bad Dragon Sword, Fulgrim would've been high on my list
dusty comet
Pre sword lol
key words there
plush mason
I mean he had to pick the one asshole out of all 18 assholes who was least likel...
i guess rowboat was busy?
dusty comet
fulgrim, sanguinius, and vulkan id say were the coolest
green loom
Clonegrim was a plot device to show off Bile
Fulgrim proper will return with an EC faction supposedly
arctic talon
Clonegrim was also going traitor
dusty comet
only difference between fulgrim and sanguinius is that while fulgrim was always trying to strive for perfection, sanguinius just was
arctic talon
again
dusty comet
Clonegrim was also going traitor
bruh the fuck why?
arctic talon
dusty comet
did he not learn from the original or are just every one that blockheaded
snow fern
I thought it was a perfect clone of preheresy fulgrim?
arctic talon
Slaanesh wanted 2 I’m guessing
arctic talon
I thought it was a perfect clone of preheresy fulgrim?
It was
dusty comet
I thought it was a perfect clone of preheresy fulgrim?
he was
green loom
Clonegrim was also going traitor
Apparently it's implied that Bile just thinks that
But it's irrelevant
dusty comet
the only reason he went traitor was the fucking laer blade
plush mason
Clonegrim was a plot device to show off Bile
Fulgrim proper will return with an ...
Bile is in a new book it seems
arctic talon
He is
dusty comet
why would he go traitor without it
arctic talon
why would he go traitor without it
Warp corruption
Bile was literally sitting in a lab in the eye of terror
Along with clonegrim lol
dusty comet
ah
arctic talon
Maybe if clonegrim got popped out and stayed in a better place sure
But he was in the eye of terror
With bile, and also met parts of the Phoenix conclave
crisp heath
I like how Fulgrim is the only traitor who seems genuinely ashamed and emotionally demolished by his actions, I just wish his motivation was stronger than "I found a sword that tells me to do coke"
arctic talon
He was on the path to damnation again
plush mason
He is
||from the title and the fact it has the old walking tank of a magos i assume he is after the rubricon primaris or something like that||
arctic talon
||from the title and the fact it has the old walking tank of a magos i assume he...
Do you want spoilers?
arctic talon
He’s after ||the progonoid glands of alpha primus and also wants to try to convince Cawl to work with him||
dusty comet
He was on the path to damnation *again*
i think it would help if he just got sent literally anywhere not touched by the warp
dusty comet
He’s after ||the progonoid glands of alpha primus and also wants to try to convi...
is bile a traitor or no? because its never been clarified to me whether hes neutral, or just an asshole of a loyalist
green loom
He’s after ||the progonoid glands of alpha primus and also wants to try to convi...
||He's also being commissioned by Abby to make an answer for Primaris||
crisp heath
Bile is a gigatraitor lmao
plush mason
He’s after ||the progonoid glands of alpha primus and also wants to try to convi...
||so yeah he wants to make his own primaris because ofc he would||
dusty comet
what was the point of clonegrim then? like in the story itself, aside from giving an in to Bile
arctic talon
is bile a traitor or no? because its never been clarified to me whether hes neut...
Bile is a giga traitor
arctic talon
what was the point of clonegrim then? like in the story itself, aside from givin...
He was trying to clone fulgrim
green loom
what was the point of clonegrim then? like in the story itself, aside from givin...
To show how fucked Bile was iirc
crisp heath
Bile likes to clone primarchs. He's not very good at it, usually
arctic talon
||so yeah he wants to make his own primaris because ofc he would||
||he thinks primaris are stupid funnily enough, it’s for his new men project||
snow fern
||so yeah he wants to make his own primaris because ofc he would||
||Pls no chaos primaris, how many factions of space marines can 1 corporation make?||
plush mason
but he doesnt worship chaos, iirc he flat out told Slannesh it isnt a god even as his body was shutting down just looking at the dark god lol
crisp heath
Atheists can betray you
plush mason
his only loyalty is to himself
dusty comet
||he thinks primaris are stupid funnily enough, it’s for his new men project||
while the concept is good, the issue is how theyre integrated
arctic talon
He also thinks the emperor not making female astartes was stupid lol
He’s busy working on his plan now
dusty comet
and i dont blame the characters who dont like the primaris
arctic talon
while the concept is good, the issue is how theyre integrated
I’m talking about biles opinion on them
He thinks there’s 0 point to them
dusty comet
ah
arctic talon
And that they should have focused on making super humans who could have kids
plush mason
||Pls no chaos primaris, how many factions of space marines can 1 corporation ma...
||GW be like: challenge accepted||
arctic talon
Aka Bile’s “new men”
green loom
Cawl is improving marines, bile is doing a project pretty much in line with what emps was trying to do
dusty comet
the loyalists dont like them because they completely disregard the process that goes into turning them into actual space marines to begin with
arctic talon
Bile is trying to ascend humanity forcibly lol
green loom
the loyalists dont like them because they completely disregard the process that ...
No they don't lol
arctic talon
And granted the gland hounds and new men are like
Absolutely a success
But bile doesn’t think they’re good enough yet
green loom
Primaris are regular marines with some 2 extra organ s
dusty comet
No they don't lol
i mean they dont go through the process of scout, to heavy weapons team, to actual marine, so on and so forth
arctic talon
Bile is ironically a perfectionist
plush mason
And granted the gland hounds and new men are like
wtf are the new men anyway?
arctic talon
i mean they dont go through the process of scout, to heavy weapons team, to actu...
They do go through as a scout
dusty comet
they do?
green loom
The big drama was the Unnumbered Sons reinforcements to chapters, who were pretty foreign and also initially lacked some of the mutations
arctic talon
wtf are the new men anyway?
Genetically modified and augmented humans
dusty comet
i was told they dont do that kind of stuff
arctic talon
i was told they dont do that kind of stuff
They do still have primaris scouts
crisp heath
Loyalists don't like the primaris because they're space fascists obsessed with genetic purity and feel threatened by a newer model coming out, especially since it's also HeReSy
snow fern
Tldr marines who can have sex
Somebody played Fallout 1 and took notes
arctic talon
Lol
A few of his new men are practically indistinguishable from marines in combat capabilities
While in power armor
plush mason
And are more stable mentally
so what the emperor most likely planned for humanity if the heresy hadnt happened
green loom
No
green loom
Emps has a more psyker oriented view
dusty comet
Yeah they still go through the entire implantation proces lol
No I mean after that
snow fern
I mean, I think Big E was gonna Thunder Warriors 2
green loom
No I mean after that
They still have scouts yes, they're not magically promoted to battle brother
arctic talon
The new men are also why bile got kicked out of the Phoenix conclave lol
snow fern
And possibly 3 idk about his true feelings on the Primarchs
crisp heath
The Emperor was a simple man, he wanted everyone to throw fireballs without also exploding into a daemon at random times
dusty comet
They’re also very inexperienced from what I’ve seen
plush mason
The Emperor was a simple man, he wanted everyone to throw fireballs without also...
why not have both?
arctic talon
They’re also very inexperienced from what I’ve seen
It depends
Primaris veterans are a thing nowadays
snow fern
The Emperor was a simple man, he wanted everyone to throw fireballs without also...
I think he shoulda tooken more notice when his Perpetual buddies left him
arctic talon
It’s been long enough in universe
dusty comet
The biggest example I’ve seen was that one who went against a chaos terminator and got his shit pushed in
celest dome
A SM getting killed by a Termi isn't really that impressive
arctic talon
Also abbadon keeps on wanting bile to make chaos primaris
plush mason
It’s been long enough in universe
they have been around for like 500 years in universe last i heard
arctic talon
And bile says no lol
green loom
I'm gonna go pass out now, gnight 40k gamers
arctic talon
More like around 100
crisp heath
The Unnumbered Sons are essentially history, Primaris Marines are just the beefy boys most chapters have now
crisp heath
The Unnumbered Sons were the inexperienced, special case primaris
arctic talon
Highest attrition rate in marines since the great crusade
plush mason
More like around 100
still more than enough time to have proven themselves
arctic talon
Yeah
dusty comet
A SM getting killed by a Termi isn't really that impressive
Primaris captain I think? Or was it a sergeant
crisp heath
I do like how resistant the black templars were, a problem that was solved by a primaris just beating the shit out of a captain
Yes, I know I oversimplified it. Let me meme.
dusty comet
I know the chaos terminator absolutely hated the guy because he “didn’t deserve his rank”
plush mason
Primaris captain I think? Or was it a sergeant
a chaos termi can kick the shit out of most firstborn
hard to beat 10k years of combat experience
arctic talon
Also yeah chaos terminators are some of the best of the best
They’re Chaos Chosen
But even better lol
plush mason
yup
arctic talon
You have a big x painted in your back in terminator armor
As a csm
Everyone wants it
dusty comet
a chaos termi can kick the shit out of most firstborn
Not that I’m not saying that that isn’t a given, but he’s basically shittalking him going on about how “This was the best that the supposed new marines of the emperor could come up with”
plush mason
classic chaos boasting
arctic talon
I wish chaos chosen in 40K weren’t just space marine veterans but slightly better
plush mason
which is higher, chosen or champions?
arctic talon
Champions
dusty comet
I want to say champion?
arctic talon
The leader of the chosen is a champion on the tabletop
plush mason
got it
celest dome
Chaos Chosen in fantasy/AoS feel like they deserve their ranks, the 40k one its just so much less
dusty comet
Aight
arctic talon
Chaos Chosen in fantasy/AoS feel like they deserve their ranks, the 40k one its ...
Because they don’t look as like
Strong
Despite their status in lore still being so high up lol
A chaos chosen is way bigger then the average chaos warrior
snow fern
I kinda wish csm had a bit more to them, like cacti says there just more to becoming a warrior of chaos than a csm.
Not to downplay peeps like Ahriman or Kharn the Betrayer
celest dome
Yeah and they have boastful statures, Termi don't really
dusty comet
I kinda wish csm had a bit more to them, like cacti says there just more to beco...
Or Typhus
snow fern
Yah
plush mason
Chaos Chosen in fantasy/AoS feel like they deserve their ranks, the 40k one its ...
i will never understand how the empire managed to hold off chaos for so long seeing how so many of their forces where living weapons incased in hellforged demonarmor
arctic talon
Faith steel and gunpowder
dusty comet
I just chalked it up to faith and numbers
dusty comet
Faith steel and gunpowder
This is a lot better
arctic talon
Magic is really useful
snow fern
Also Kislev is like all the nightmarish Slavic folk stories but real and meaner
arctic talon
Good luck in that nice hellforged armor
While you’re being cooked alive by a pyromancer
plush mason
or baba yaga has her hut step on you
celest dome
And good luck surviving this line of cannons
snow fern
Oops your bones are now lead, die
arctic talon
Like as strong as the forces of chaos are
They’re pretty low tech lol
They don’t have gun powder, barely practice agriculture
celest dome
Still sad they didn't give Baba Yaga a walking hit as mount.
Would it have been corny, yes. But it would have been a good rhing
plush mason
Oops your bones are now lead, die
can the metal magic users just crush a guy in his own armor?
arctic talon
can the metal magic users just crush a guy in his own armor?
Yes
In AoS at least
A human mage makes a chaos warrior into a crushed can
celest dome
They do have metal manipulation in fantasy too, but I don't remember if they have a set spell for it
dusty comet
Christ he hasn’t gotten to age of apostasy yet
snow fern
Also overall the various order factions in Fantasy are relatively cooperative with each other excluding Lizardmen, compared to Skaven and Norsca who can’t be bothered not to murder their neighbors
arctic talon
Also yeah order is much more friendly with each other
Chaos is uh
Busy fighting itself a lot of the time
plush mason
Also overall the various order factions in Fantasy are relatively cooperative wi...
as a player of all TWWH games i know that fact all too well. fuck the ordertide
snow fern
Probably because order also includes nagash and sometimes orks
snow fern
Ah
arctic talon
Nagash has his own little group
celest dome
Orcs are destruction and nagash is death
arctic talon
Orcs, ogres and giants have their own
celest dome
Fimir moved from Chaos to destruction
arctic talon
Nagash is angry at Sigmar
celest dome
In fairness when isn't he angry
dusty comet
The guy I’m tag teaming with to explain 40k lore is finally at age of apostasy
plush mason
Nagash is angry at Sigmar
dont he and Sigmar beef because the stormcast are the result of sigmar "stealing" souls atleast in Nagash's eyes?
arctic talon
Yeah
dusty comet
I believe so yes
arctic talon
Sigmar and the other order gods
Are stealing souls that are rightfully his
He wanted all the elven souls that got puked up by slaanesh
snow fern
I gotta say, the models for the Luminary are stunning
arctic talon
And he got told no
celest dome
Well he should have been quicker at claiming them
arctic talon
Lol
dusty comet
Skill issue
snow fern
There’s an aos rts coming out isn’t there? Wonder if that’ll be fun
celest dome
Realm of Ruin
plush mason
And he got told no
so he more or less ended up in that meme of a buch of people giving the bird to an image in the center
celest dome
Think it's getting Tzeentch as the chaos faction
arctic talon
so he more or less ended up in that meme of a buch of people giving the bird to ...
Yeah
snow fern
Finally a tzeentch rep in gaming
arctic talon
I don’t blame nagash for being angry but he also went about it in the most dickish way possible
celest dome
SM2 is also gonna have Tzeentch
arctic talon
stabbing everyone in the back
celest dome
Prim sergeant no ?
arctic talon
Lt.
plush mason
Oh I somehow missed that.
its 100% got something to do with how titus can touch pure warp matter and not die/become a chaosspawn
snow fern
Huh, wonder if we’ll be told how that meeting with the Inquisition went
He kicked the everloving shit outa a daemon prince, he deserves whatever he asks for
plush mason
Huh, wonder if we’ll be told how that meeting with the Inquisition went
penitence crusade i think
for a good 100 years
dusty comet
I think we’ve potentially broken the guy we’re explaining the lore to
plush mason
it happens
dusty comet
I think the other guy mentioning that the lore is liable to change on a whim was what did it
Nvm he’s good
snow fern
I believe Ollanius Pious is real
dusty comet
I’m pretty sure he is
snow fern
Oh I heard he got retconned, good. Humans deserve some spotlight in 30k
plush mason
he might be and his story might not
like there is literally 3 versions of the story i have heard/read of
one where all of it is real, one where its a doctored version made by a rememberncer and one where its all BS for the propaganda films
snow fern
I guess Malcador is a human, even if that human is an peerless psyker who is old beyond the concept of mortality.
celest dome
Normal Guardsman (old lore)
Space Marine or custodes
Perpetual.
Those are the 3 I know of
arctic talon
The normal guardsmen in old lore might have also just been a legend
snow fern
Which was the one who squared up to daemon primarch Angron and won?
celest dome
I mean for most people in the imp. They don't really know what perpetuals are
dusty comet
Normal Guardsman (old lore)
Space Marine or custodes
Perpetual.
Those are the 3 ...
I do the perpetual interpretation because that’s the one I like the most
arctic talon
Which was the one who squared up to daemon primarch Angron and won?
The perpetual one
Well
A human with a really similar name
But that was a normal human
Who had the brass balls to well
wet sandal
I guess Malcador is a human, even if that human is an peerless psyker who is old...
Bout as human as the big E himself, which is to say: technically
arctic talon
Square up to angron lol
plush mason
Square up to angron lol
dude had balls bigger than the emeperor's flagship
dusty comet
Square up to angron lol
I’ll do it if gw gives us bolt pistols
snow fern
Oh wait the World Eaters flagship captain, she’s awesome
plush mason
i imagine this is how it ended for him tho
dusty comet
https://tenor.com/view/skarbrand-warhammer-total-war-kick-gif-24886820
SKARBRAND punting people will never not be funny to watch
plush mason
ikr
dusty comet
Oh wait the World Eaters flagship captain, she’s awesome
Lotarra sarin
Whatever did happen to her anyway?
plush mason
SKARBRAND punting people will never not be funny to watch
best attack animation CA ever made
plush mason
Whatever did happen to her anyway?
fused with the ship iirc
dusty comet
The fact that it’s a tiny tzeentch daemon makes it even funnier
dusty comet
fused with the ship iirc
That must suck balls
snow fern
Probably eaten by the ship idk, I think the lexicanum says the captain is a different person now
arctic talon
That must suck balls
She’s still conscious
arctic talon
Probably eaten by the ship idk, I think the lexicanum says the captain is a diff...
She’s the true captain
The real command deck got fused into the ship sorta
Her “body” is still in it
snow fern
Warp fuckery never ceases to bring horror into the minds of all
arctic talon
Coincidentally angron also shows up on the real command deck now
Whenever he revives
hasty coral
Do orks get faster every time they get a kill in close range?
arctic talon
No
hasty coral
Because the blood paints them red
plush mason
no
arctic talon
As funny as that would be
snow fern
Ork waagh energy is memed on too hard
plush mason
yeah
hasty coral
Well the warp is collective thought
plush mason
its not nearly as strong as the memes claim
arctic talon
The real command deck of the conqueror is pretty horrifying mostly since well
There’s a sentient flesh monstrosity on the command throne
A bunch of dead people
Angron
hasty coral
The memes go a bit out of hand
plush mason
Well the warp is collective thought
they have no connection to the wrap
arctic talon
And some world eaters from the heresy
hasty coral
But technically
hasty coral
they have no connection to the wrap
Then what’s their collective psychic powers?
snow fern
Idk, something similar to the power of the eldar gods I reckon?
plush mason
Then what’s their collective psychic powers?
not sure if its ever really explained but the old ones made them to not use the warp because the C'Tan where immune to it
snow fern
Be eaten
hasty coral
They just happen to not use the magic system the rest of the setting does?
Or is the warp only one aspect of the power of thought in 40k
Probably the latter
snow fern
I mean, then you got the Shadow in the Warp, which some horrid third thing
hasty coral
I mean, then you got the Shadow in the Warp, which some horrid third thing
And yet they still use psychic powers
And are based around collective thought
Hive mind
arctic talon
The waaagh field is connected to the warp
But it’s reality lube
Not literal reality bending
plush mason
the shadow in the warp is like a chaff cloud the hivemind makes to cut off areas of the warp
arctic talon
It helps oil the gears of reality
hasty coral
Right
arctic talon
To make ork stuff work better
hasty coral
Is semi functional
This makes sense
arctic talon
The waaagh field makes it functional
snow fern
I mean, Ork techies know instinctively how to build stuff
arctic talon
Ork tech at best is really good
hasty coral
It has to at least simulate a vehicle
plush mason
especially for their ships iirc
hasty coral
I mean, Ork techies know instinctively how to build stuff
This could be based on their idea of what makes good machines
hasty coral
That makes sense
Because the Orks would still have to legitimately believe their vehicles work
arctic talon
But an ork shoota that normally jams
hasty coral
They don’t just will them to work
snow fern
We also got to remember the orks are a biological weapon made by the Old Ones, which, who knows what sort of bizarre powers and tech they possessed
hasty coral
They truly believe they do
arctic talon
The waaagh field makes it a fully automatic death spitter
Tldr waaagh field makes trash usable
Usable good
And good very good
plush mason
are painboys like meks in that they are just born with an instinct for medical knowhow?
hasty coral
We also got to remember the orks are a biological weapon made by the Old Ones, w...
Why the fuck did the old ones create the Krorks, I understand desperation but even back then they were collectively PSYCHOTIC
arctic talon
are painboys like meks in that they are just born with an instinct for medical k...
Pretty much but they’re more insane
snow fern
The ork equivalent to medical knowhow yah
plush mason
yeah
grave sparrow
because they were pretty fuckin desperate afaik lol
make the ultimate killing machines, and stay FAR far away
arctic talon
Painboys make meks look sane
hasty coral
Krorks were a terrible idea
snow fern
As soon as the ctan got involved, the War in Heaven got real spicy
hasty coral
Because we knew we would use them against ourselves
arctic talon
Desperation makes people even more stupid
hasty coral
I will say
I enjoy how 40k
Makes everyone terrible
Because that’s how shit would go
Everyone would hate each other, be racist, and RUIN their universe
Is there any hope for 40k
Or are we gonna get fantasy again?
snow fern
Actually even worse
Depending on who you ask, it was a show of strength to the Soviet Union, but that’s real history, and I can link you to a short (and I mean that seriously) 2 hours video on the subject.
hasty coral
Depending on who you ask, it was a show of strength to the Soviet Union, but tha...
Well it’s more that the Old Ones weren’t 100% sure the Krorks would attack them and hoped they would just war against the Necrons
We KNEW nukes would be used to kill our own kind
And even in the same countries
grave sparrow
Weren't there Ork diplomats during the war of the beast as the Orks got close to re-evolving back to Krorks?
hasty coral
Seriously is there any hope for 40k?
snow fern
Well it’s more that the Old Ones weren’t 100% sure the Krorks would attack them ...
I mean there was serious concern that nukes would evaporate the atmosphere
grave sparrow
No, it's a grim dark future of only war l ol
hasty coral
That’s what I thought
arctic talon
“Abandon all hope”
hasty coral
Like MAYBE Necrons
arctic talon
As the classic opening goes
grave sparrow
makes you wonder if there's a magic button somewhere in necronville that just erradicates their entire species lol
like they can make entire stars go poof
snow fern
I guess you could be lucky and be born on the lowely insignificant worlds owned by the tau Farsight Enclaves
hasty coral
Necrons are spilt between ego lords and disaster prepers
They simultaneously try to genocide everything
While others
Attempt to go HOLY SHIT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING
GUYS PLEASE
WE ARE SO FUCKED
snow fern
The one who originally made the necron shells, who was that one again, he was featured in the show I believe
hasty coral
WE ARE SO FUCKED
(Basically just 40k version of global warming, including that nobody will do anything about it)
snow fern
I just had an amazing idea for a Dark Mechanicum faction if they ever get a codex, ones that mess around with Necron tech to try and remake the original transformation from flesh to steel
dusty comet
Meanwhile the necrons are collectively facepalming
snow fern
Yah, but admech are kinda dumb, no matter if they like to put spikes on things or not
versed ledge
but hey we can count on the guard to defend humanity
urban spire
Why the fuck did the old ones create the Krorks, I understand desperation but ev...
the old ones were WEIRD; whenever they ran into a major problem they didn't solve it in any conventional way, they created a new species to solve the problem for them
arctic talon
Mmm monke
urban spire
the war in heaven was not between two relatively sane species
arctic talon
After the dark age of technology
urban spire
M30, apparently
safe vigil
causing Old Night right
urban spire
the start of the age of strife predates the fall of the eldar by five thousand years i believe
storm jungle
^
the Old Night was caused by various factors
ironically the Fall of the Eldar was the thing that BLEW the warpstorms away and caused way for the Great Crusade
dusty comet
We are at M39
arctic talon
M42
urban spire
yeah that
safe vigil
We technically dont know when
urban spire
isn't this M3
dusty comet
We’re 5 hours into doing that
urban spire
ah
arctic talon
Jfc lol
dusty comet
Emperor protect me
storm jungle
One day i want to witness a 40k lore seminar
arctic talon
Instead of brain
There is bun
Warhammer lore seminar will destroy any sane person
urban spire
instead of brain there is various special interests in a trench coat pretending to be an adult human brain
dusty comet
Warhammer lore seminar will destroy any sane person
We’ve been at it for 5 hours. What do you think it’s doing to us?
We’re finally at at M40
urban spire
anyway to clarify a point about ork technology
the kroot got their space flight and warp travel technology by reverse engineering ork technology
after a fashion
i mean, that is
that is to say
they ate them
anyway kroot have no access to the ork reality distortion so it's safe to say that ork technology is based on real, working principles
wet sandal
That sounds quite strange considering ork "technology", especially warp travel is held together by the gestalt field
arctic talon
That sounds quite strange considering ork "technology", especially warp travel i...
I’d assume deep down enough it actually does work
It’s just that the orks aren’t evolved enough to take advantage of it
wet sandal
They definitely do take advantage of it
jade holly
POV: me watching the one individual I locked in a room with me for over 12 hours discussing Warhammer 40k go insane
wet sandal
I mean they shoot the guns and ride the cars and fly the ships
crisp heath
I love how the Imperium talks about Carcharodons like they're bigfoot or UFOs or something
dusty comet
WERE IN M41 BABY!
urban spire
what are you watching anyway
novel moat
dusty comet
what are you watching anyway
Me and another are explaining 40k lore in its entirety to someone completely new to the setting
we’ve been at it for 6 and a half hours now
potent flare
jesus
grave sparrow
I remember making a 40k reference because it was applicable to whatever was going on and my buddy asked
Who's Horus?
What's the Emperor?
Why is Horus rebelling against the Emperor?
Why is there a Great Crusade?
and I went eh heh heh heh, you're gonna have to give me a bit
jade holly
I remember making a 40k reference because it was applicable to whatever was goin...
Daddy Issues
The answer is Daddy Issues
warm notch
When you enter Hallowette's shop, she can say something about donating to her 'retirement fund'
🤔
dusty comet
7hrs
nocturne crest
Could the acolytes use GSC weapons that were former mining equipment?
grave sparrow
so, I'm basing this entirely on speculation, but aren't pretty much all the 40k weapons just modified industrial equipment from the Golden Age?
Like Golden Age humanity just used nano-bot swarms and shit for weaponry I thought
storm jungle
Nope
Golden Age tech is super advanced stuff
more or less anything an STC can spew out and other high-scifi mumbo jumbo
the lexicanum page displays a lot of examples
Basically one of the reasons DAOT exists is for mcguffins from it to be used in 40k, which the writers can make for it to be literally anything
for example im writing an admech adventure novel?
"They are hunting and finding an STC that can instantly repair ship through cortex-mega-nonsense-repair-robots"
grave sparrow
but abominable intelligence!
grave sparrow
isn't that like a big plot point folk bring up lol.
Like if an intact STC was found, would the admech just destroy it
storm jungle
It entirely depends on the admech that find it
Some will study it
Some will destroy it
Some will use it in secret
etc
normal light
isn't that like a big plot point folk bring up lol.
Like if an intact STC was f...
No , usually
normal light
No , usually
Sometimes it might get stolen by some Blood Angels
arctic talon
isn't that like a big plot point folk bring up lol.
Like if an intact STC was f...
Intact STC machine doctrine says to destroy it but no high ranking tech priest is that stupid
Intact STC instructions
Never destroy
Because you don’t need an STC machine to use them
grave sparrow
yea, the templates and all that are like crack cocaine for the admech
arctic talon
No DRM
In the dark age of technology
Either that or the admech are really good at cracking DRM
normal light
Either that or the admech are really good at cracking DRM
“Admechs are good at cracking”
storm jungle
so, I'm basing this entirely on speculation, but aren't pretty much all the 40k ...
But to return to this
we only got like... 2-3 examples of actually re-purposed DAOT weapon tech?
Graviton guns is one
also Phosphex
grave sparrow
Phosphex ended up being outlawed for some stupid reason right lol
normal light
Arc weapons ?
arctic talon
Phosphex ended up being outlawed for some stupid reason right lol
phosphex got destroyed by a tech priest
who thought it was so horrifying it had to be destroyed
he had his implants ripped out and was killed with a phosphex gun starting from the legs up
storm jungle
It was basically semi-sentient white phosphorus clouds yeah
if you know what white phosphorus is of course 💀
arctic talon
you forgot it being acidic and radioactive
and it lingers longer then white phosphorus
storm jungle
normal light
So phosphor weapon is okay but when he got to the phosphex he suddenly realised that it was a cruel weapon
storm jungle
phosphor stuff came after as a "hey we got phosphex at home"
Phosphex itself was rare tech
so you cant get it back once its gone at least
arctic talon
So phosphor weapon is okay but when he got to the phosphex he suddenly realised ...
Phosphor isn't phosphex
phosphor is just super napalm
which is a lot less horrific
because phosphex fucking chases people
normal light
because phosphex *fucking chases people*
Wow guided napalm
storm jungle
normal light
💀
storm jungle
💀
arctic talon
Phosphor is an order of magnitude
less horrifying
like it just burns you to death
storm jungle
yeah Phosphex is semi-sentient
normal light
There were no civilians out there
storm jungle
it doesnt even go out underwater
normal light
and doesn't go out in a vacuum
Magical properties
arctic talon
which means there's something else other then fire involved
spare osprey
Phosphex is awesome
arctic talon
Either that
storm jungle
oh god
arctic talon
or it generates its own like
storm jungle
here comes the dark angels fan
storm jungle
of course he'd say this shit
arctic talon
could work
storm jungle
spare osprey
Listen
storm jungle
spare osprey
But it’s still awesome asf
Especially when you have armor that’s resistant to it
arctic talon
slightly biased
Listen archmagos
those children deserved it
they shouldn't have stood around the combat zone if they didn't want to horrifically die
spare osprey
**Especially when you have armor that’s resistant to it**
Phosphex and rad grenades
Thems the shits
normal light
those children deserved it
You meant those “eldar” children 
normal light
👍
normal light
the holy light of phosphex does not discriminate
Here , have a 
arctic talon
💀
reasons I like the Imperium
#1 they're evil
Reasons I like the Mechanicus
#1 they are incredibly evil
normal light
We have the ikaros contingency
This was classified information
spare osprey
Tho will say
watched that admech hammer and bolter animation today
normal light
spare osprey
watched that admech hammer and bolter animation today
Pretty good
spare osprey
This was classified information
To some
arctic talon
Would you kill a man for your pet that talks to you
if it meant you could save your pets life
Nothing is off the table for cybernetica datasmiths
including space marine dreadnoughts
normal light
if it meant you could save your pets life
Sorry my man points las pistol at guy’s head
arctic talon
well
because he's not useful lol
whats the comissar gona do lol
He's dead weight since he's injured
he's also clearly stupid since he made a fire
on a planet with a ton of Orks
normal light
whats the comissar gona do lol
At that point execute him because they lost a battle for the planet
normal light
Also yeah datasmith and that robot are doomed 💀
arctic talon
prolly lol
crisp heath
Blood Ravens or bust.
plush mason
ok so when i woke up just now my first thought was "how does an entire inquisitorial ordo just up and vanish"
what constitutes a small ordo? how many members would it have?
crisp heath
There are ordos with three people
plush mason
ok
crisp heath
I don't remember what they're called, but I remember digging through Lexicanum once and finding an ordo with only 5 people in it, no one knows what they do, but there's also an ordo with like 20 people whose only job is to watch them
plush mason
so they have 20 people just watching 5
idk if that says more about the 5 being watched or the 20 watchers
plush mason
is everyone's brain intact?
spring marlin
woeful pulsar
Crazy
warm notch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXfWiCCVby8
0:47 the veteran tried jumping over the Plogyrn's swipe 💀
modern tapir
Do Krieg ever customize their rifles? Like, would you think you'd ever see one carrying this sort of Helbore?
arctic talon
Do Krieg ever customize their rifles? Like, would you think you'd ever see one c...
Grenadiers and veterans yes
The average one no
In the veteran guardsmen killteam the lasguns have some small differences across them that are optional
modern tapir
Lol I'm so glad someone knows enough to answer that. Coolsies.
arctic talon
Lol I'm so glad someone knows enough to answer that. Coolsies.
I spend too much time with plastic help
modern tapir
I used to be the same.
hasty coral
Aw hell nah
💀
Bro wants that emperor booty taste
Bro bout to get the Horus treatment by the Emperor for that lick
warm notch
Is this supposed to be a deterrent for learning about aliens or does this encourage learning more about aliens so you hate them more?
queen laurel
Is this supposed to be a deterrent for learning about aliens or does this encour...
Both
you only are only encouraged to learn enough about them
Enough to hate them and kill them with no questions asked
The imperium absolutely hates aliens after all there is literally an inquisitorial order made to deal with xenos
winged jacinth
Its basically a roundabout way of saying "don't ever give aliens the benefit of the doubt" as i read it
rigid dune
lore wise, how strong are zealots preachers? Quick wiki read say that they deal "blows emboldened by pious rage" and such. Are they actualy wielding some type of magic power or do they just believe that they do? As someone who is not well versed in the universe they just seem like some madmen with a chainsaw?
median marsh
Faith in 40k actually does have a tangible effect and calling them madmen is also technically accurate
Theyre less prone to fear as a result so you have a powerhouse that is determined to shred enemies of the emperor to bits
rigid dune
Okay, im just thinking about how strong they are lore wise and if something has gotten buffed/nerfed due to gameplay reason. Like the psyker when I read about that seems that they would be a lot more powerfull and valuble to a team than "man with gun"
median marsh
Psykers have varying degrees of strength, from pretty minor stuff like being able to move small objects with their mind to extreme cases where a single Psyker can annihilate an entire squadron
Our psykers are somewhere in the middle ground, not monstrously powerful but strong enough to deal considerable damage
Lore wise best example of zealot would probably be Sisters of Battle
Since they can manifest things with their sheer faith, like Living Saints
rigid dune
Would a Sister of battle be much stronger than a Zealot Preacher? From art work they seem to wear powerarmor and stuff, which I guess have it's own weight?
median marsh
I'd say specifically our zealot is stronger in a 1v1 situation but SoBs are better equipped
green loom
They're just zealots but actually trained and equipped
median marsh
our chars have basically main character plot armor
rigid dune
So is it feasible that a team of 4 would enter a infested city and do these tasks? or is that plot armor level type of power in the works?
median marsh
our chars do mention sisters of battle and the fact if they do arrive they'll probably level the entire place to the ground
I dont think they operate on small scale
median marsh
F i r e
green loom
Sisters are the same but also worse and WAY more uncompromising
crisp heath
Honestly the rejects could probably fight off poxwalkers and even daemons pretty well in lore. I always talk about how they're total powerhouses.
The issue is they don't get sick or corrupted, which is how nurgle really gets you.
crisp heath
I dont think they operate on small scale
The first thing the Sisters do is drop a Sistine Chapel from orbit and then rush underdressed shock troops out the door before burning anything they leave behind
Small scale is definitely not their strong suit
tulip brook
normal zealots are untrained lowest rank of ecclesiarchy while sisters are elite army. normally they are not even comparable but our reject is good enough to be in inner retinue of a pretty big deal inquisitor so he's just not elite enough to be trusted with power armor
stable loom
Hey all question what is the psyker in the training room I’ve been trying to figure it out but I’m not finding anything?
Like she doesn’t seem to be a normal psyker
green loom
A plot device for us to have a training room
stable loom
So not even a bit of lore for her?
green loom
Her name is Sefoni and she creeps most of our chars out
celest dome
She is an Alpha Psyker, we don't have much knowledge on her yet, but we can guess she is a great Telepath
stable loom
She is an Alpha Psyker, we don't have much knowledge on her yet, but we can gues...
Thanks
tulip brook
I'd say she's no way an alpha psyker. that would make her more powerful than almost all sm librarians
crisp heath
She's also nowhere near crazy enough to be an alpha
median marsh
shes powerful certainly, I still wonder if the machine she is in:
A) keeping her contained
B) Keeping her stable and away from being possessed through warding
I had 3 options originally but when I thought about it, it's unlikely that the machine is using her as a battery for something else because she has a bit of "freedom" in the world she simulates
Like controlling aspects of it etc
tulip brook
pickling psykers isn't an uncommon thing. most likely for control as you said
median marsh
She also sounds pretty content with her circumstances
From dialogue she has a disdain for professional while adoring ogryns
storm jungle
Pretty much every message on the loading screen is suppose to be ironically/humourously fascist or hateful so yeah that checks out
median marsh
[I bloody hate aliens] - John Guardsman (executed for looking at the commissar in a funny manner)
tulip brook
in a universe they religiously hate everything... ig the answer to the question above is, yes.
hate to learn or learn to hate, doesn't matter
median marsh
I hate math
storm jungle
same
green loom
I hate people
lapis wadi
The first thing the Sisters do is drop a Sistine Chapel from orbit and then rush...
Be fair, that's an order militant doing a "FULL PURGE", they're fully capable of being subtle when they want to be.
But if you're calling them in specifically, it's usually because you want everything on fire, praying for emperor, dead, or all of the above.
Like if you just want a couple people in power or carapace armor as a strike team.. there's other avenues there. Us, for one.
normal light
I hate people
versed ledge
I hate people
sonic breach
Question I had,
Why is the silent king scared of the Tyranids ? I mean, the necrons are basically a hard counter to them with the weapons they have available.
storm jungle
Because if they wipe out all of the organic beings in the galaxy he thinks there will be no way to study/find a way to return necrons into their pre-transferrence selves
green loom
Violent maniac wants subjects to rule
storm jungle
Also that lol
lunar harness
have the necrons ever not genocided anyone they fought with?
sonic breach
Because if they wipe out all of the organic beings in the galaxy he thinks there...
You would think that the Galaxies biggest kleptomaniac would have that..
lunar harness
in pariah nexus the necrons kill literally everyone
celest dome
Now I wonder what the entropy rate of the Tyr is
lunar harness
it can't be bad because they can cross intergalactic distances
storm jungle
in pariah nexus the necrons kill literally everyone
I mean yeah
who gives a fuck about some imperials
storm jungle
^
But no most necrons just give a full-wide genocide order
mostly because its not like their enemies will treat them the same anyway
urban spire
most factions in 40k don't take prisoners, and if they do take prisoners you'll wish they hadn't
storm jungle
There is this REALLY interesting art from 9th edition though where it shows Szarekhan Dynasty necrons taking droves of human prisoners
Im guessing likely to be experimented on though so 
urban spire
the imperium will capture a small number of xenos for maybe interrigation, vivisection or both, low ranking chaos cultists if they surrender might be made into servitors or just executed
anyone more involved in chaos than at a really low level probably wont be trusted as a servitor
secessionist humans are the only ones who can expect any sort of lasting captivity from the imperium i imagine
queen laurel
Im guessing likely to be experimented on though so <:lmao:814476123923546162>
Maybe study them to have a new biological body I suppose
because the other time I know they were willingly take human prisoners is to make pariahs
But of course they stopped the production of those because you know it's a hassle
green loom
Well the main group also kinda want to return to flesh iirc
I think that's what Szeras is mostly looking into?
That's why you see him with so many captive guard
queen laurel
Well the main group also kinda want to return to flesh iirc
Yeah some necrons want to return to flesh they're probably studying the body to see if they can make new ones for themselves
lapis wadi
most factions in 40k don't take prisoners, and if they do take prisoners you'll ...
orks used to take prisoners, not sure if they still do
Generic forced labor, nothing that interesting
rigid dune
Is las"shotguns" something that exist in the universe?
storm jungle
Yeah but its never been at the forefront anywhere
since lasers are all about focusing the energy into a single point.
Shotlas - An illegal modification of a standard Lasgun popular amongst the techwrights and armour-mongers of the world of Footfall, the "Shotlas" is rigged to discharge more energy per shot, at the cost of beam coherence, with the weapon's shots swiftly losing power and becoming ineffective at longer ranges.
queen laurel
They still do yeah
i mean if you're entertaining enough they may keep you alive
After all humans can be more interesting pets than squigs
I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want to be a pet of a giant green killing machine that has a machine gun for an arm
median marsh
The most you can hope for is providing enough of a good fight to make them respect you, like Yarrick
rose thorn
> Shotlas - An illegal modification of a standard Lasgun popular amongst the tec...
Illegal?? Why?
hasty coral
Bro got afflicted with Nurgle’s giga aids
Fought for 18 hours
And lived to become a fucking dreadnought
What in the goddamn
queen laurel
Illegal?? Why?
A modification is often illegal in the imperium if it changes the function of the weapon from what I heard
Mechanicus being you know mechanicus
celest dome
It's illegal in the same way a Sawnoff shotgun is in RL
median marsh
Depends on ones perspective really, Plenty to choose from
queen laurel
Depends on ones perspective really, Plenty to choose from
i vote dark eldar
they are the most straightforward when it comes to their motives after all
celest dome
Admech is horrifying cause it remain something that in a way is feasible, and not cartoonesque like the Dark Eldar
queen laurel
Admech is horrifying cause it remain something that in a way is feasible, and no...
i mean yeah but you know we did get asked what to pick and I just think that dark elders are horrifying
the mechanicus are second in my horrifying factions second
warm notch
Nothing is more horrifying than humanity’s capacity for war and abject destruction.
queen laurel
Considering the Bullshit they do everyday
nocturne crest
Do you think they'll give ork dakkas to the crew if the orks ever arrive on world?
RP your acolyte as an Armageddon Ork Hunter.
queen laurel
No because thats unsanctioned and using xenos weapons is heresy
In the first place ork weaponry is incredibly unreliable
median marsh
I'm also pretty sure ork weapons don't function for anyone except them
Unless I'm wrong
nocturne crest
So the Armageddon Ork Hunters are heretical then?
queen laurel
Like the random weapon that you can pick up in the floor in tertium is a lot better than what an ork has
queen laurel
So the Armageddon Ork Hunters are heretical then?
pardons are given if they don't have a choice
the imperium might forbid a lot of things but they hate losing more
queen laurel
I'm also pretty sure ork weapons don't function for anyone except them
The thing is you can make an ork weapon function for yourself because a lot of them are just missing pieces, the WAAAAGGHHH just holds them together, so if you add extra duct tape and some extra components it should work fine but why would you waste materials on something that looks like it's been built by slapping together metal when you can get high grade weaponry, actually reliable weaponry
median marsh
The only mention of ork hunters using their weapons I could find is them using choppas
And even then only some do it
queen laurel
The only mention of ork hunters using their weapons I could find is them using c...
On the hands of a human to be fair those things are basically just scrap great swords
if you're physically strong you can definitely use it
Considering how bat shit crazy an ork hunter is
rose thorn
It's illegal in the same way a Sawnoff shotgun is in RL
oh yeah I forgot
sweats in Idaho
Also there is sawn offs in 40k which is funny and they aren’t illegal
queen laurel
Also there is sawn offs in 40k which is funny and they aren’t illegal
probably because whatever you're going up against isn't going to go down with just two shotgun shells
even the lowliest of gangs can arm themselves with quite dangerous scrap weaponry
median marsh
40k is also separate from real world, stuff that's illegal here can be legal there
rose thorn
In the game before last of necromunda I played the sawn off fucking obliterated someone’s champion
It was really funny
storm jungle
So the Armageddon Ork Hunters are heretical then?
the Ork Hunters fight their feral enemy on their own terms, and have become extremely adept at their savage purpose. Their feral appearance and coarse manner has led to the Ork Hunters being regarded as little better than the Greenskin scum that they hunt and have earned them the enmity of many other Imperial Guard regiments stationed on Armageddon.
Necessary hereticalism basically lol
rose thorn
40k is also separate from real world, stuff that's illegal here can be legal the...
Like cigarettes (losticks) being illegal for being bad for your health
Can’t believe that the imperium do man kind is against lung cancer
queen laurel
> the Ork Hunters fight their feral enemy on their own terms, and have become ex...
Yeah these guys are quite loose on the head to the point that they only really fear one ork
verbal path
Do you think they'll give ork dakkas to the crew if the orks ever arrive on worl...
Give us regular dakka first
nocturne crest
Fair enough.
verbal path
Gimme this. I want it for my vet.
celest dome
That's a reaper autocannon, even a SM can't use it without having a Terminator armour