You might be a good operative but you're still a reject
#40k-lore-chat
queen laurel
arctic talon
Update the amongus storyline
warm notch
Everyone’s dynamic with the PC is hilarious
queen laurel
Update the amongus storyline
It's just aliens trying to kill of a crew it's not that special
arctic talon
Lol
river sequoia
3rd generation True Hybrids basically can pass as human
arctic talon
3rd generation True Hybrids basically can pass as human
They still are bald
And have the forehead ridge
river sequoia
bra, wigs
arctic talon
Forehead ridge
normal light
And have the forehead ridge
And sharp teeth
arctic talon
We see his forehead
river sequoia
its a future wig
warm notch
Steal my genes please steal my genes
normal light
Steal my genes please steal my genes
queen laurel
I leave for five seconds
arctic talon
💀
warm notch
I leave for five seconds
All roads lead to shitposting
normal light
I leave for five seconds
And come back to this , grab your slugga , we need to purge this channel
warm notch
It’s not a discussion about 40k lore if it’s not at least a little shitposty
queen laurel
And come back to this , grab your slugga , we need to purge this channel
I ain't wasting my bullet on the runts here
You do it
river sequoia
When she steals all over my genes
ordo xenos records describe that process as...
Tyrranid implantation as one of the most horrifying and painful processes ever conceivable.
normal light
Please face the wall
arctic talon
Also all your superiors being unpleasant towards the player character makes sense
Mostly since you’re just another body
warm notch
Also all your superiors being unpleasant towards the player character makes sens...
At least when you become an official acolyte they’re not as unpleasant
Which isn’t saying much, but, you know
arctic talon
Lol
normal light
Mostly since you’re just another body
Another number in a log 
arctic talon
Hadron Ironically is kind of nice when she’s working on your equipment
When she’s prolly the most rude
Out of all the handlers lol
queen laurel
Hadron Ironically is kind of nice when she’s working on your equipment
Yeah but you leave a scratch on that thing, you better pray to god you are far enough away that the emperor can hear you
warm notch
Also I remember having to do a double take when Hadron apologized when she had a sudden outburst
It’s so unlike her to apologize 💀
queen laurel
Also I remember having to do a double take when Hadron apologized when she had a...
Mechanicus very rarely show emotions
river sequoia
hadron is the best, my ogryn got a crush on her. He likes anything that makes his clobbers and shooties more clobbery, and more shooty
queen laurel
Mostly they are professionals
warm notch
“UNLEASH THE POWER OF THE SERVO-SKULL! . . . sorry I don’t know what came over me”
arctic talon
Pretty sure that’s one of her attempts at humor
warm notch
The fact that it can read as supremely out of character for her makes it a 11/10 joke
arctic talon
It’s like her “I have total confidence in you, was that convincing”
“I can never tell”
river sequoia
Mechanicus very rarely show emotions
They do actually feel emotion, their are processes where they can suppress emotion centers in their brains, but its hit or miss. The motion they feel the most though is absolutely nerd rage fights with other magi. They really do not like their knowledge being questioned.
warm notch
Tech priests are nerds
arctic talon
Lol what’s new
river sequoia
In the mechanicus books, sometimes it literally felt like a nerd culture message board, when the techpriest argue.
queen laurel
They do actually feel emotion, their are processes where they can suppress emoti...
Yeah that is true
I guess i should have worded it more properly
river sequoia
naw, its fair, the popular perception from those outside the cult mechanicus is they are emotionless machines.
celest dome
ordo xenos records describe that process as...
Tyrranid implantation as one of t...
Dark Eldar and Slaanesh are up for the challenge
river sequoia
It has a lot to do with how the cult mechanicus views the common folk. Those inside the cult, can develop a viewpoint that unaugmented humans are basically tools (or cogs) to fuel their machines. Their forced labors and hardship are a honor, and as long as the machine they are dying to maintain continues to function, they will join the motive force honorably in death.
To those outside the cult, and worse in service to the cult. What they experience is unsympathetic slave drivers who do not care about humanity most of the time.
Its the extreme pragmatism that originates from the age of strife for sure.
versed ledge
Dark Eldar and Slaanesh are up for the challenge
Sorry, but this a emperor approved chat group
celest dome
Say the Tau simp
median marsh
Speed dialing Emps right now to verify
warm notch
Big E confirmed that he is a feminist this is so cool
arctic talon
Melk is apparently giving out corpse starch bars as “treats”
The loner has eaten one and found a body piercing inside
river sequoia
The loner has eaten one and found a body piercing inside
now that would make a tech priest in charge of the industrial grinders upset, they grind up 99.8% of all material, and that is statistically in error.
river sequoia
Probably has a extra shipment in the back, and has to get rid of em
celest dome
The loner has eaten one and found a body piercing inside
The corpse grinder guild really isn't what it used to be
river sequoia
I mean, better question, why not give them to ogryn as rock alternative amunition
arctic talon
Perfectly good food
grim shell
I mean, better question, why not give them to ogryn as rock alternative amunitio...
ogryn would eat them
celest dome
But why through him
Cause he want us to do his bidding, so he reward us so that we do what he wan
grim shell
Cause he want us to do his bidding, so he reward us so that we do what he wan
i would shoot anyone on the ship for him if he bribed me with copius amounts of plasteel
celest dome
It's not trying if it work
river sequoia
i would shoot anyone on the ship for him if he bribed me with copius amounts of ...
This, literally this. I swear I gonna have to join plasteel addiction support groups, the plasteel drip feed is so brutal.
storm jungle
least sociopathic GTA protagonist
celest dome
ogryn would eat them
That's the goal, you eat it and gain special tougness
grim shell
As a “treat”
also probably more of a threat. the corpse starch is probably the last squad that failed his contracts
arctic talon
It's not trying if it work
The loner says to not take any treats from melk lol
arctic talon
also probably more of a threat. the corpse starch is probably the last squad tha...
💀
storm jungle
also probably more of a threat. the corpse starch is probably the last squad tha...
💀
arctic talon
How the fuck did melk get their bodies
celest dome
The loner says to not take any treats from melk lol
2 out of 15 isn't bad
river sequoia
More likely those corpse starch bars are lanced with combat drugs
arctic talon
2 out of 15 isn't bad
Lol fair enough
The loner makes a lot of jokes about corpse starch
Tbh
grim shell
This, literally this. I swear I gonna have to join plasteel addiction support gr...
i wanna say something but dont wanna give fatshark ideas
grim shell
Hallowette now offers plasteel for doing crap
river sequoia
For real though, their either needs to be a currency exchange between material types or melk dockets, or plasteel should just be awarded for completeing missions. With so much RNG, would barely dent the crazy plastseel grind
arctic talon
Does melkcoin have a name
celest dome
I don't remember, I've always called them Melk Bucks
river sequoia
Melk's Monopoly Money
arctic talon
Lol
keen stratus
Slaaneshs the most fun one, shes the weakest, but the most entertaining to talk about
lofty mason
What do you get if you finished your service in Astra Militarum, and how long is the average service duration?
celest dome
Depend on your regiment
storm jungle
What do you get if you finished your service in Astra Militarum, and how long is...
There is no "service" in the Guard, you will be deployed from warzone to warzone to warzone until you die.
Your life has no worth.
Only high ranking or very luckly guardsman that are higher in rank can sometimes get ""retirement"" but that is basically impossible to attain
river sequoia
What do you get if you finished your service in Astra Militarum, and how long is...
You either become a noble bodyguard, hired gun, join law enforcement, or if ya are just done with fighting, menial work. If crippled - corspe-starch the imperium has no use for those who can't work.
storm jungle
A lot of the listed ones at the first row are also not that feasible
that would require you to basically "desert"
wet sandal
There is no "service" in the Guard, you will be deployed from warzone to warzone...
Literally untrue, there is an age after which you can muster out
river sequoia
There are lore books with a ton of ex guardsmen
storm jungle
Literally untrue, there is an age after which you can muster out
And almost nobody survives to that age
river sequoia
A lot of em ends up as noble bodyguards
storm jungle
There are lore books with a ton of ex guardsmen
Yeah because they are the lucky ones amongst billions 
green loom
Most of the footsloggers that don't die typically will start climbing ranks quickly
But if you're guard
You're basically making a career of it
wet sandal
And almost nobody survives to that age
So? That's not what you said in that message
storm jungle
Basically yeah
green loom
Like
celest dome
Only high ranking or **very** luckly guardsman that are higher in rank can somet...
Don't some regiment become settlers for new worlds if their campaign was succesful ?
storm jungle
So? That's not what you said in that message
"basically impossible"
I did say it lol
keen stratus
You either become a noble bodyguard, hired gun, join law enforcement, or if ya a...
whats the fuction of a hired gun exactly?
river sequoia
but its not, its basically unlikely
storm jungle
Don't some regiment become settlers for new worlds if their campaign was succesf...
Yeah but after that you are still getting called back when theres a war
wet sandal
"basically impossible"
Not in what I replied to + you don't have to be "high ranking"
river sequoia
but guardsmen can and do retire out of service
storm jungle
but guardsmen can and do retire out of service
Again, rarely
the guard is not made for you to live your life to the fullest
its made for you to go die in a ditch defending an unimportant world
the ones that do make it are very skillful or lucky ones at the end of the day
green loom
And at that point
river sequoia
do remember at the scale of the imperial guard, thats still many billions of retired guardsmen across the galaxy
green loom
You're in deep enough to where that is your job
storm jungle
do remember at the scale of the imperial guard, thats still many billions of ret...
Thats not the case at all.
a lot of "retired" guardsman tend to be deserters
green loom
I also wouldn't call them "retired"
storm jungle
the guard just doesnt let you go
keen stratus
the guard just doesnt let you go
And thats why so many turn to chaos
green loom
Unless you get a lucky break
river sequoia
the guard just doesnt let you go
They absolutely will and do. Their are entire regiments that have been awarded colonies for service.
storm jungle
They absolutely will and do. Their are entire regiments that have been awarded c...
The closest you'll get to a retirement as said above is being given a settlement world which is basically what that is
green loom
That's not really the same thing
storm jungle
You will still get called to service
the Imperium does not care about anything close to "retirement" for its populace
green loom
You can get settlement rights
storm jungle
^
storm jungle
Yeah you will basically raise new regiments but you will get called back, theres guard vets who are literally wheelchair bound that still service the Militarum
theres no "out"
storm jungle
Pretty much
green loom
And getting a cushy posting
warm notch
Yeah you will basically raise new regiments but you **will** get called back, th...
As in the menial work?
storm jungle
As in the menial work?
Military pencil-pusher/training work
warm notch
That doesn't sound too bad (by Imperium standards)
storm jungle
before you will basically be picked up again to act as on-site officers for the new regiment
in another shithole warzone
green loom
Or the planet is attacked and you're left as senior leadership
storm jungle
or that yes lol
warm notch
Even if you're disabled they'll still find ways to put you to work lmao
storm jungle
Even if you're disabled they'll still find ways to put you to work lmao
this man gets it
warm notch
ig thats kinda like equity in a very macabre way 💀
warm notch
this man gets it
lady uwu
storm jungle
Yeah the Imperium is not suppose to be a "good" place to serve or find a way out of not dying
green loom
The Schola always needs instructors, Garrisons need commanders, nobles need attaches
keen stratus
I wonder how corpse startch tastes like
warm notch
I wonder how corpse startch tastes like
The best MRE you've ever had
river sequoia
theres no "out"
Everyone works in the imperuim, but their is exits to guardsmen service, well documented across many books I have read, of guardsmen leaving the gaurd, to do something else. Even operating cranes for a cargo dock.
green loom
I recall something like
20 year long tours
But
That's provided you survive
And provided wherever you are isn't literal hell at that moment
storm jungle
Everyone works in the imperuim, but their is exits to guardsmen service, well do...
Exits which are like said before almost impossible to get as the stuff the Guard fight on a daily/weekly basis are hellish and can kill entire droves of them constantly.
Since we are referencing books, Gaunts Ghosts has the imperial command constantly telling the Ghosts they cant be given retirement/settlement world yet because they are too valuable to the current crusade efforts.
The only way to leave the Guard is just to get lucky, even if millions of guardsmen might get an "out" theres still trillions or more of them that go to die until they are of no use in other warzones.
thats just the authors doing the "ex-army character" trope without putting much thought into it half the time
forest orbit
that yea theres not really a proper retirement in the guard 😂
only ways you can get out are pretty Han Solo in some fashion or the other
river sequoia
I am not disputing you are likely to die before retirement as a guardsmen, but it isn't a blanket impossibility. Most survivors stay career, ones that make it through, gravitate to guns for hire, or some other service (like PDF drill sergeants). The remainder work menial jobs, or do get colony seeding roles, in regard to the Gaunts Ghost, they didn't let em go, mostly because they were a regiment that regularly fought chaos, and didn't turn traitor. Exceptionally Rare and useful.
Oh and I agree the authors write to whatever plot convivence they need at the time. But it is lore as written so it stands.
green loom
I've dug up some examples
green loom
As expected it varies
forest orbit
typical
green loom
The Tanith don't have a homeworld, but they're not allowed to settle since they're too useful
In older books something called The Tactica Imperium apparently mention a guard regiment will serve for 10 years before being rotated into an Army of Conquest, which will conquer a world that the rotated regiments will settle on
In Eisenhorn a Guard regiment is raised to handle a local campaign, and once finished they are demobilized and sent home
river sequoia
I think a part of the problem is the over representation of Cadian and Krieg. Their is no retirement there for sure.
green loom
In "Let the Galaxy Burn", an Atillan Rough Rider returns home, but he's been gone long enough for things to change drastically and just goes back to the guard
green loom
In Eisenhorn a Guard regiment is raised to handle a local campaign, and once fin...
I should mention the retired guardsmen are incredibly paranoid and go about killing people they declare "heretics", and are then put down
arctic talon
Cut throat refrence
green loom
In Ciaphas Cain regiments sometimes get rotated to their homeworlds to recoup losses
normal light
In Ciaphas Cain regiments sometimes get rotated to their homeworlds to recoup lo...
Every regiment would rotate , there is no way to constantly keep it on the front line
green loom
Considering their casualty rates no
normal light
Considering their casualty rates no <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Yes , you casual rend down whole regiment
urban spire
yeah rest and refit
river sequoia
Lets not forget their are cushier roles in the guard as well, like artillery companies.
normal light
Lets not forget their are cushier roles in the guard as well, like artillery com...
Counter-battery fire
river sequoia
oh of course they die in droves too
normal light
Lots of flying things
green loom
Ciaphas Cain thought the same
urban spire
when regiments get severely depleted, they're usually merged
normal light
Like yeah you are 5 km behing the front line
river sequoia
but you tend to try and keep the ork horde from impacting your artillery companies directly, and have aa bateries
green loom
Like yeah you are 5 km behing the front line
But a breakthrough or flyers can quickly bridge that gap
green loom
Or someone forgot to send a message saying the 12th Drempian Bibledumbers got overrun 3 hours ago on your flank, and the enemy are rushing in behind you
normal light
Like drop pods
or maybe nids from sky or underground
river sequoia
Now for sure, an artillery company vs SM, dark-normal eldar, tyranids or heretic artillery, it gonna suck royal
Ya are the primo target for the sneaky attacks.
river sequoia
Be rotated to fill in the line
From what I understand, that is only the most desperate move, guard commanders loves their artillery more then anything
green loom
Sometimes it's not really a choice
And if guard fight anything it's desperate hellwars
normal light
Be rotated to fill in the line
OH NO WE DEPLETED OUR AMMUNTION STOCKS , Time for you to go IN TRENCHES
keen stratus
normal light
river sequoia
OH NO WE DEPLETED OUR AMMUNTION STOCKS , Time for you to go IN TRENCHES
when the guard runs out of artillery, they are basically doomed anyway.
normal light
OH NO WE DEPLETED OUR AMMUNTION STOCKS , Time for you to go IN TRENCHES
It also works with every type of regiment
normal light
when the guard runs out of artillery, they are basically doomed anyway.
I think it`s a common thing
keen stratus
How can you exactly turn a las gun into a krak grenade?
normal light
because of how much they have it
river sequoia
The imperial logistics typically don't faulter, unless a regiment is cut off, or void superiorty is lost.
green loom
How can you exactly turn a las gun into a krak grenade?
You can apparently overcharge the ammo pack for it and turn it into a volatile grenade
normal light
The imperial logistics typically don't faulter, unless a regiment is cut off, or...
It WOULD faulter , because the more you mass artillery more damage you make
large amounts of artys logicaly consume more shells
keen stratus
You can apparently overcharge the ammo pack for it and turn it into a volatile g...
Oh, cause i was thinking on the not having ammo thing, but if you need to charge a pack, then its useless
How do lasgun chargers work then?
there giant batteries?
normal light
large amounts of artys logicaly consume more shells
It`s a mystery how Munistorum can supply such regiments
keen stratus
normal light
there giant batteries?
basically you can charge lasgun pack in campfire
if you are lucky enough
river sequoia
large amounts of artys logicaly consume more shells
Many many many examples of gaurd sieges going on for years, and literal mountains of spent shells piling nearby. The mechanicus don't falter with logistics typically
green loom
When they can help it
grim shell
It`s a mystery how Munistorum can supply such regiments
we just get to see the ones that live to tell the tale. which are usually the ones who get their supplies on time
arctic talon
https://youtu.be/E5wxemuiDA4?si=AjzrKl3A7kiP8OzC
Tickle the necron warrior
normal light
Like there can be situations where Guard Regiment shot of their ammo supply before they got new one
normal light
Tickle the necron warrior
celest dome
What's step 3 ?
celest dome
I have to many skulls at home, postal service doesn't reach the plains of blood
urban spire
basically if you recharge a lasgun clip in a fire it'll become prone to jamming
what that means for a laser weapon is a mystery
arctic talon
I’d assume it fucks with the connector
Somehow
Maybe it doesn’t like getting exposed to an open fire
urban spire
that is definitely not its favourite thing
yeah maybe you have to reseat the power pack or something
like a stick of ram except it can explode if you fuck it up badly enough
river sequoia
watch of TT game of 60 lasgun shots concentrated into a SM squad. Oh boy, the tickles start hurting and killing. In lore though, a SM can go from tanking melta shots to being killed by a shovel.
urban spire
i know exactly what being at 100% peril feels like
i heard the 100% peril noise the last time i had to reseat my ram
arctic talon
Lol
urban spire
in lore a lasgun can kill a space marine with careful aim or volume of fire
green loom
Or a high powered, precise shot
arctic talon
On the tabletop it’s like
urban spire
since ceramite doesn't deflect laser fire it'll absorb the heat
urban spire
space marines are all hot shit until someone brings out the autocannon
river sequoia
And then a 3+ to not die
enough spam, and lucky roles can bring anything down in TT. Its just funny.
urban spire
looking at the ffg rpgs, a hot shot laspistol is a real threat to a space marine
more so than an actual bolter
ok yeah that's actually been bothering me for a long time, how the fuck are space marines meant to fight other space marines without heavy weapons?
bolters aren't that great at penning power armour in the lore
or the ffg rpgs
river sequoia
And lets be honest with ourselves, a lot of even basic SM lore where they are 'invulnerable gods to anything but super heavy weapons' came from certain fanboy authors who should not be named. Narrative lately has made em more vulnerable.
arctic talon
ok yeah that's actually been bothering me for a long time, how the fuck are spac...
Bolters lore wise are decently good at killing marines
urban spire
of course going by the lore, a space marine could simply catch a bolter round in his teeth and digest it for nutrients with his acid saliva
arctic talon
In most tabletop games they’re like
Suprisingly bad
Even rpg’s lol
But hotshots, plasmas, bolters
All of those can mess up a marine
urban spire
i think it's fairly appropriate
river sequoia
of course going by the lore, a space marine could simply catch a bolter round in...
Those SM the bestest fanboy books
normal light
But hotshots, plasmas, bolters
Even hotshots have -1 ap
normal light
Plasma is a mystery to me because it not so relaible
arctic talon
I think 5
normal light
Plasma is a mystery to me because it not so relaible
now
arctic talon
But hotshots used to just instakill marines lol
urban spire
hot shots in only war, with lascannon for scale
arctic talon
10/10
normal light
hot shots in only war, with lascannon for scale
7 Pen
urban spire
that's 1d10+4 damage with 7 pen yeah
normal light
that's 1d10+4 damage with 7 pen yeah
Em , like everything has 1d10+4 damage
also hotshot would be strong
arctic talon
Hotshots prolly have been nerfed the most between like editions lol
urban spire
bolters
normal light
Hotshots prolly have been nerfed the most between like editions lol
I have feeling that everything got
normal light
EXCEPT FREAKING ELVES
urban spire
of course bolters can fire kraken penetrators, which brings them to
7 pen
maybe space marines should just use hotshot volley guns
arctic talon
you mean how did GW think AP2 hotshot was a good idea?
arctic talon
You are talking about TTS?
Im talking about the actual tabletop game
Lol
Older editions
normal light
Because like now they have -1
arctic talon
Yeah
Im talking about pre 8e
AP2 instakilled anything
Lol
No saves allowed aside from invulns
arctic talon
Yeah
normal light
and their counter parts in other factions
normal light
And Knights
normal light
Same with the GSC one
GSC is just one big meme about GRENADES AND MINES
normal light
GSC is just one big meme about GRENADES AND MINES
Especially with knew mortal wounds mechanic
arctic talon
But bolters are surprisingly bad at killing marines
Then again
Marines are normally not killing other marines
river sequoia
I thought they whole big deal about bolters was what they did to unarmoured targets?
normal light
Crap
normal light
I thought they whole big deal about bolters was what they did to unarmoured targ...
IN TTS THEY DON`T
normal light
Tabletop isn’t lore
True
arctic talon
Tabletop is pretty lore inaccurate so the game is actually fun
urban spire
Marines are normally not killing other marines
traitor marines
arctic talon
traitor marines
Again they don’t fight them that often
It’s usually Orks
Really really violent and big orks
Or cultists
urban spire
ok but statistically most fights in the galaxy involve orks so that feels unfair
warm notch
"Innocence proves nothing" goes so hard
arctic talon
ok but statistically most fights in the galaxy involve orks so that feels unfair
Okay true
warm notch
This society fucking sucks I love it
arctic talon
But bolters can kill marines somewhat well
In like
Most sane depictions of marine power level
river sequoia
Most sane depictions of marine power level
its usually like joint shots right?
arctic talon
Joint shots or sustained fire
Either kills a marine
And regarding marines using hotshot volley guns
Yes they should use them
normal light
Crap I still have flashbacks from Black Templars Primaris Crusader squad
river sequoia
That is something I noticed, cermamite armor is pretty brittle, and taking a bunch of hits will degrade it into broken chunks pretty quick.
normal light
Crap I still have flashbacks from Black Templars Primaris Crusader squad
95 Chainsword attacks 
urban spire
ok that's another funky thing
chainswords have ceramite teeth
how do they fight ceramite armour with those?
normal light
The meme is that
BT Chainswords somehow deal 1 more attack
Than other marine chainswords
river sequoia
I thought chainswords were adamantine or some other mythical metal?
urban spire
let's ask lexicanum
normal light
let's ask lexicanum
Chainswords were mainly against orks
river sequoia
I know the chainsword lore is inconsitent at best.
arctic talon
Aka be like the world eaters
Shove tiny power fields
Into your chain weapons
So you can just cut through stupid idiots trying to block your sword
warm notch
Chainswords just sound super inconvenient if you can’t rev it up
river sequoia
!Chainswords cutting into baneblades like they made of wood
arctic talon
Eldar chainswords are also made out of
coarse pumice
BT Chainswords somehow deal 1 more attack
It’s because they’re combined with a pistol rather than just having it with a bolter. THE ONE THE REGULAR SERGEANT HAS DOESNT COUNT DONT QUESTION IT
urban spire
ok new question: why don't they make space marine armour out of adamantium?
arctic talon
eats people and armor alive
arctic talon
ok new question: why don't they make space marine armour out of adamantium?
Too Expensive
For the scale required
coarse pumice
Too heavy
arctic talon
Also yeah it’s heavy
river sequoia
ok new question: why don't they make space marine armour out of adamantium?
Proably its too difficult to manufacture given its properites
or no STC
arctic talon
Nah
urban spire
answer: they do in terminator armour
arctic talon
Too thicc
coarse pumice
Also it might not even be practical at that width, fantasy materials and all
arctic talon
Also very expensive
Most chapters don’t own more then like
30 suits lol
Some straight up don’t have any
river sequoia
I know one thing, the imperium is the embodement of favoring cheap mass manufactured goods, even for the elite troops.
arctic talon
Economics of scale
green loom
Marine chapters typically have lots of higher end gear
The Marines just have to earn it a lot of the time lol
urban spire
idk, the guard fields a lot of precious materiel
arctic talon
Lamenters with literally 8 suits of terminator armor
urban spire
plasma guns for one
arctic talon
river sequoia
making little teeth on a chainsaw would be fairly easy to mass produce, making articulating suits of powered armor, very expensive.
arctic talon
The average lamenter army a player owns has more terminators then the chapter does
urban spire
imo space marines should have their own versions of sisters repentia
river sequoia
a goofy example is the deathwing, so many deathwings be getting clapped, you wonder just how many suits they have
arctic talon
imo space marines should have their own versions of sisters repentia
Yes
urban spire
naked marines with eviscerators would be dope
arctic talon
a goofy example is the deathwing, so many deathwings be getting clapped, you won...
First founding privilege moment
normal light
It’s because they’re combined with a pistol rather than just having it with a bo...
No it`s not
arctic talon
First and second founding have privileges
river sequoia
The 1000 marine thing was always dumb
normal light
BT just has more melee attacks
arctic talon
There’s just more then 1000 marines now lol
1000 is only for the companies
Excluding support staff and such
GW finally with slightly more sane numbers
river sequoia
GW finally with slightly more sane numbers
true dat, even GW is calling it dumb
arctic talon
Still stupid
urban spire
on one hand good, on the other, ugh more space marines
arctic talon
Just slightly less dumb
arctic talon
on one hand good, on the other, ugh more space marines
Tbh it was always practically more then 1k
river sequoia
The main thing is now we can have stories of SM chapters taking major losses and not just be wiped out.
urban spire
it was slightly funny how if you looked at the numbers there was probably less than 1 space marine to go around per world in the imperium
versed ledge
So is there deep layer to the warp?
urban spire
i think we should have more stories where SM chapters take major losses and ARE wiped out
versed ledge
Like how the ocean has with depths
arctic talon
So is there deep layer to the warp?
Yeah it goes deeper
versed ledge
Sweet, seems like a fun place to explore
arctic talon
Like the ocean
versed ledge
Cowards
arctic talon
Well tzeentch messed around with it once
urban spire
keep in mind that the warp isn't a dimension of space or a physical location
arctic talon
Also that
urban spire
it's not like a 4th dimension type deal
versed ledge
It's basically hell, and it has a second layer
spare osprey
a goofy example is the deathwing, so many deathwings be getting clapped, you won...
They’ll never tell
urban spire
it's like your spaceship fell asleep and is having a nightmare
spare osprey
Hell looking back at the heresy
The DA had the single largest amount of dreadnoughts and terminator armor
arctic talon
First legion privilege
coarse pumice
No it`s not
It’s a holdover from the old rules, the new rules just show a higher number
spare osprey
First legion privilege
Mhm
urban spire
good clean burnin first legion propane
spare osprey
Best legion
river sequoia
DA- best legion, unashamed.
urban spire
spare osprey
DA probably got some propane on em. If they had a “Cold War” era nuke anything is possible
urban spire
oh gross googling "hank hill space marine" results in SO MANY shitty AI generated pictures
spare osprey
Yeah that seems about right
river sequoia
(i will not be posting the AI art)
but they are so skilled at typing a request, while the image blender filled with stolen images does all the work
spare osprey
DA probably got some propane on em. If they had a “Cold War” era nuke anything i...
If I can write a marine who huffs promethium I’m sure a hank hill marine is out there bringing Arlen justice to the xenos and heretics alike.
vague flare
I’m bored out of my skull waiting for my medicine. Does anyone have any funny stories of Darktide? :/
urban spire
a russian man called me a homophobic slur for not having enough damage done at the end of a game
vague flare
I’m bored out of my skull waiting for my medicine. Does anyone have any funny st...
I posted this in the wrong chat, whoopsies!
urban spire
well you got my funny darktide story anyway
river sequoia
a russian man called me a homophobic slur for not having enough damage done at t...
I am getting tired of people obsessions over contextless stats. You can easly have the most damage, do something very dumb, and throw the game. Just as somebody guarding the rear of the party will have low damage, but clutch the game.
arctic talon
You can have most damage done by just smacking a poxwalker horde
storm jungle
a russian man called me a homophobic slur for not having enough damage done at t...
Meanwhile the playerbase
river sequoia
normal players, oh this build is doing better in damage, huzzah. Your typical LoL player, these numbers mean everything, watch me carry... splits and gets pinned by dog.
vague flare
I’m so glad they removed the scoreboards. It got exhausting watching people chase green circles in VT2
Also, mayyyybeee we should move this to general since that I thought I was in to begin with
storm jungle
I’m so glad they removed the scoreboards. It got exhausting watching people chas...
I do love how the scoreboard added by mods displays every useless stat/action like a mathboard lol
like what the actual fuck am i looking at
river sequoia
I have scoreboard in mostly to check if build changes actually make a difference half the time, between the lack of meaningful descriptions and esoteric math FS jammed in, never judge other players with it nope.
celest dome
Not even everything that FS track afaik, spoke with the dude who made the mod a long time ago
urban spire
i like the high detail scoreboard
the idea is that you go into the mod settings and customize it to only show the things you care about
storm jungle
urban spire
but most people are just like MORE STATS GOODERER and enable everything
river sequoia
Its also a mod, and I have def seen it really seem to do bizarro things.
urban spire
yeah it doesn't track bosses killed at all for one
and of course someone made a submod to break down the stats even more
river sequoia
The only thing I allow myself to get mad at other players from the scoreboard is when people don't pick up plasteel, my crippling plasteel addiction itches.
urban spire
although to be fair it's possible he called me the slur because he ran up to a poxburster while i was brain bursting it and got upset with me when that didn't go great for him
that's kind of on me but also maybe don't run up to the poxburster whose head is visibly about to explode
he didn't die form it or anything
river sequoia
Darktide is a hectic choatic game, players who get mad about being a pixel off in targeting should go back to CS-GO or something.
crisp heath
They should make this canon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq3b1lenNBg
river sequoia
I thought the first BFGA was better misson wise, they went for quantity of campaign in the second one, I liked the narritive driven missions in the first one better.
arctic talon
I do love how the scoreboard added by mods displays **every** useless stat/actio...
Ngl I miss the green circles
They were fun to see lol
storm jungle
desert dust
like what the actual fuck am i looking at
I cleaned it for you.
It's literally just how much damage did I take and what is my build good at clearing
crisp heath
Honestly the Necron victory for Gothic being canon would be great LBH Abbadon is kind of a poorly written character and it would put chaos on the backburner for a bit so some of the other races could show up.
storm jungle
Thats a very bad idea to just get all the chaos fanboys to hate it though 💀
river sequoia
I think its better, if the necrons are actually pushed in a bit to admit chaos winning is bad, and begrudgingly admit to helping the imperium.
arctic talon
Honestly the Necron victory for Gothic being canon would be great LBH Abbadon is...
They have said none of those endings will be canon
because it changes the setting too much fundamentally
plush mason
green loom
I do love how the scoreboard added by mods displays **every** useless stat/actio...
They need to know exactly what to flame you for
plush mason
ok "deep warp" sounds neat
green loom
Yeah it relates to shit like the Well of Eternity that Tzeentch toyed with
plush mason
yeah
green loom
Wonder if the Harrowing have anything to do with it
crisp heath
They have said none of those endings will be canon
If they wanted to do that then they should have chose the Imperium ending nothing really changes except Abbadon is dead.
arctic talon
Abbadon being dead is a big change
tbf
He is literally the glue holding together any semblance of Chaos unity together
urban spire
warhammer novels are like
"what if our protagonist DIES???"
and then i look at the wiki
and there's like 6 more omnibuses and a collection of short stories
storm jungle
LMAO
plush mason
so Malcador has a tomb
crisp heath
Abbadon being dead is a big change
There are so much better chaos space marines who are more interesting story wise What about Angron.
arctic talon
Okay
but Abaddon is still important lol
is my point
and memes aside a good ammount of people actually like Abaddon
plush mason
the more i looked into him the more i can to be impressed and respect him
dude has done more in less time and with less means than the imperium ever has
storm jungle
Abaddon is a pretty good character and anyone that doesn't like him aka 90% of the fanbase has never read any of his book, lore or knows anything about his character
storm jungle
There are so much better chaos space marines who are more interesting story wise...
Angron is literally a braindead moron who has no character ever since he became a daemon prince, so now hes just Angry Demon Man
arctic talon
only reason I don't really like Abaddon is because he's an astartes supremacist and thats kinda boring lol
plush mason
one thing people seem to not know is that chaos is actually the underdog in most categories
crisp heath
and memes aside a good ammount of people actually like Abaddon
Well then again I never liked Gullliman and Abbadon is just evil Guilliman.
crisp heath
I think they did a lot with this guy.
green loom
You mean Gabriel "Generic Good Guy" Angelos?
crisp heath
I doubt it would count as Generic good guys.
urban spire
shoutsout to breasting boobily
storm jungle
Gabriel is about as generic as you can get for a space marine character
crisp heath
TBH to understand the nuances of Gabriel you really haver to play the DoW games.
storm jungle
I have played all 3
from the weeks that they came out lol
Hes generic good guy space marine
crisp heath
Then mabye you need to replay it becuase GoW 1 alone has a lot more character for Gabrel then I felt about Guilliman.
storm jungle
No that is just you liking Angelos too much to form a bias.
Which is fine, just don't think Angelos is that deep of a character when so many carbon copies of him exist in the setting.
green loom
Angelos is kinda haunted by Cyrene and is sad that Isador betrays him
green loom
In DoW 2 he only exists to yell at you about Kyras because he can't be wrong, and then comes in randomly at the end
In 3
Actually I don't know
plush mason
there is no 3
urban spire
so with regards to the deep warp, i have only this to say
crisp heath
Angelos is kinda haunted by Cyrene and is sad that Isador betrays him
Exactly it clearly haunt him and he kind of was distrustful of the inquisitors Also I think DoW 3 involved the pursuit of the demon who he freed in DoW 1 in Gabrels eyes that demon was the physical manfestation of not only what happened to Tartarus but also Cyrine .....his failure and the evil that infested in his home planet he gave a form he could fight in the presence of that demon later on that very demon possessed his chapter master forcing Gabrel to once again destroy those who he called his brothers for the good of the Imperium but it is clear he went to that final battle expecting to die ....and he survived even though he was badly wounded he took up the mantle of chapter master not because he wanted or desrved it but as a way to atone for his past faluires. Outlawrdly he is seen as a paragon to what a space marine should be but inwardly Gabreil himself sees just one failure after another.
plush mason
so with regards to the deep warp, i have only this to say
yeah i know. if the warp has always been there then there are things in it older than even the oldest stars
green loom
I don't think it had anything to do with Cyrene
crisp heath
Imprisoned on Tartarus lol
I am not saying it did I am saying that Gabrel used the daemon as a way to pshcyailly manafest his failure for what happend to Cyrine.
urban spire
i am so unhappy about DoW3
crisp heath
i am so unhappy about DoW3
Then rejoice I heard they may be RMing the DoW games.
green loom
I am not saying it did I am saying that Gabrel used the daemon as a way to pshcy...
That's wishful thinking at best lol
crisp heath
don't know how necessary that is
What I mean is they are bascially going to give us classic DOW but with some updated mechanics and a fresh coat of paint.
urban spire
oh a remaster? that might be cool
they better patch the everloving fucking out of the balance though
crisp heath
they better patch the everloving fucking out of the balance though
They may even do what crash bandticoot did which is remaster the DoW1 and its x packs then make DoW 2 and 3 fresh.
urban spire
the worst outcome imo is if they remake dow1 in the style of dow2
don't get me wrong, dow2 is a good game, but i LOVE dow1
crisp heath
Yea I mean I think a company of heroes game basied in the 40K universe would be greatr but dont call it DoW.
green loom
It's literally just dawn of war lol
Dawn of War 2 literally shares half the mechanics and almost all the effects
crisp heath
DoW2 was more based on controling a small squad rather than a full army.
storm jungle
Yeah DoW1 and DoW2 are both loved by the seperate halves of the community for their own reasons.
DoW3 is where both those bands of fans agree to shit on the game
green loom
All they'd need to do
crisp heath
Yeah DoW1 and DoW2 are both loved by the seperate halves of the community for th...
That is ironics because the reason it failed was it tired to be both DoW1 and DoW 2.
green loom
Actually
They don't need to do anything, just add base building to 2
And you've got 40k Company of Heroes
urban spire
i wish it was easier to tell if someone was a furry or if they just have a rantsona
green loom
Because it's the same company and the same engine
storm jungle
That is ironics because the reason it failed was it tired to be both DoW1 and Do...
because DoW2 was drastic but still a pretty good game
also yeah what Ed said
celest dome
What the f is a rantsona
green loom
Like
DoW2 cover system?
Straight from company of heroes
DoW2 buildings?
Straight from company of heroes
urban spire
a rantsona is when some wordy youtuber has an onscreen avatar of some kind
green loom
Most non-plasma/magic effects?
Straight from company of heroes
Heavy weapons mechanics?
Company of Heroes
Vehicle combat?
You guessed it, company of heroes
celest dome
a rantsona is when some wordy youtuber has an onscreen avatar of some kind
Like those Vtuber ?
urban spire
no
green loom
Nah rantsonas predate Vtubers
They're like
A less evolved version of then
And typically used by weird racists/pedophiles for some reason
It's just maybe 4+ PNGs that they'll shift through to show certain moods
crisp heath
I mean I do like the abiluty to upgrade my heores and chose their abilites and the cloest I played to Company of Heores was Iron Harvest.
urban spire
iron harvest is so fucking cool
crisp heath
Though I do love how Dawn of War had more expanive buiolding options than Iron Harvest.
urban spire
DoW1 was a more traditional RTS
crisp heath
DoW1 was a more traditional RTS
TBH nothing wrong with that.
crisp heath
Actually if we wanted to combine DoW1 with something like the hero upgrading system from DoW2.
urban spire
that'd be neat
crisp heath
For example I could give my Space marine commaber a Power sword that does very well against large quanities of units A chain sword which is better against vehicels and buildings or a power first that is better agianst smaller groups of more powerful units.
plush mason
so there is or was an ordo whoms' sole task was to pervent and destroy time anomolies
star trek temporal agents but 40k lol
storm jungle
Ordo Chronos i think
funnnily enough their first lore entry was that every member of the ordo disappeared in some time anamoly
urban spire
good
arctic talon
They're back btw
storm jungle
then once the Great Rift opened up they got new lore where now they re back
arctic talon
now fighting over the calander
crisp heath
funnnily enough their first lore entry was that every member of the ordo disappe...
I think I read about them they were invovled in the Robutte Heresy story yes>
plush mason
funnnily enough their first lore entry was that every member of the ordo disappe...
yeah i just watched a video about that
or well at about a small story relatied to it
green loom
I hate the alt heresies
crisp heath
I hate the alt heresies
Yea the Roboutian Heresy bascially switches which space marines remained loyal and whcih turned traitor.
normal light
I hate the alt heresies
What are those alt heresies?
plush mason
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3DeeSxW2YA
this
green loom
I feel like ol Wes is having a nice dig through the Dark Heresy books
urban spire
did he discover space hulks?
viral halo
Im gonna shave weshammer's head
plush mason
this is from the rogue trader rpg book
green loom
It's true I also hate his hair
urban spire
i tried to run a rogue trader game a couple months ago and it did not go
plush mason
did he discover space hulks?
no this is about somekind of hellish ship graveyard
basically some dark force calling millions of dead ships and even the shards of dead worlds into a vast flotila to no where
green loom
If it's from an RPG book 99% of it is made to just be like
plush mason
the processional of the damned
green loom
Adventure hooks that the DM bullshits their way through
plush mason
yeah thats is exactly what it sounds like
green loom
I like it
plush mason
a vast fleet of death full of nightmares and treasure beyond imagining
perfect for a rogue trader an their crew to go explore and most likely get TPKed
ohhh i wonder if owlcat will include it in their rogue trader game
would be perfect for a dlc
go there, explore the derelicts, find some great loot, gtfo before what ever is in there adds you to it's collection
green loom
They might
Most likely if they do something like Wrath
Where it's literally just a tabletop campaign ported into a CRPG
plush mason
from the beta i have played that seems to be the case
tho not any specific campaign setting afaik
storm jungle
yeah you are in the Calixis sector which is where the RPG takes place
so expect some winks
indigo fjord
Random question, why do Sororitas have white hair?
Everytime I read it in a book no one ever questions it or anything.
celest dome
Only 1 Order has white hair
indigo fjord
The one of the martyred lady?
storm jungle
Random question, why do Sororitas have white hair?
Its to look like their founder Alicia Dominica
celest dome
But art and miniature often depict them as such cause it's iconic
green loom
yeah you are in the Calixis sector which is where the RPG takes place
I wonder if they'll reference the Dominate
storm jungle
who died martyr in a random battle before the Sororitas became a huge order, so the Martyred Lady changed their name to that and adorned it in her style to honor her
green loom
They're in Calixis right?
indigo fjord
I have noticed that Martyred Lady is pretty much the only one we actually see
It's like they've forgotten the other orders exist.
verbal path
They're the poster girls of the SoB.
indigo fjord
Emperor-Botheres?
green loom
Slightly varied flavours of "What the fuck?" fanatics
indigo fjord
Botherers*
green loom
Like the Order of the Wounded Heart
storm jungle
Guard is Cadians, Sisters is Martyred Lady, Necrons is Sautekh, Tau are Vior'la, etc
green loom
Who practice ritual degloving 
indigo fjord
Cadian or Krieg
celest dome
Mars for Admech
green loom
God I still can't get over the wounded heart
verbal path
Krieg are not posterboys
They are for some fans
indigo fjord
Then space marines is ultramarine or w/e they're called
plush mason
Slightly varied flavours of "What the fuck?" fanatics
the bloody rose are just martyred lady with all white armor and black robes kek
indigo fjord
I hate em
plush mason
or was it sacred rose
green loom
I kinda want to keep painting ultras ngl
crisp heath
So the emperor is supposedly insanely charismatic yeah?
green loom
Saves me moners on paint
green loom
So the emperor is supposedly insanely charismatic yeah?
Charismatic in that "Holy fuck this guy is terrifying"
indigo fjord
Wasn't there a moment when the god-emperor went to do something and the demons in the warp all collectively shat their pants?
crisp heath
I’m wondering if he could convince a random this year dude that everything he did had to happen
verbal path
So the emperor is supposedly insanely charismatic yeah?
Sometimes he turned the charisma up.
storm jungle
I’m wondering if he could convince a random this year dude that everything he di...
The Emperor was simply the guy with the biggest stick at the time, he wasnt a destined savior.
crisp heath
That’s what I’m wondering if it’s like some magical aura that makes people agree with what he says
storm jungle
Nah
plush mason
Wasn't there a moment when the god-emperor went to do something and the demons i...
the anchorite merely used his name and all daemons near him just crumbled to dust
storm jungle
its just looking like a literal messiah
crisp heath
Ah
storm jungle
when you look like that most weak-minded people (aka most of the population) will drop to a knee and bow
verbal path
I’m wondering if he could convince a random this year dude that everything he di...
If he uses his powers? Very easily.
Just Jedi mind trick to the extreme
indigo fjord
the anchorite merely used his name and all daemons near him just crumbled to dus...
Very nice
crisp heath
If he uses his powers? Very easily.
Right but I mean through actual charm and charisma not just terror
Fulgrim is a master of vocal manipulation
I’d assume the emperor would be the grandmaster
plush mason
See; Henry Cavill
got a friend that is 100% indoctrinated in the cult of Henry Cavil
verbal path
I'm sure someone would believe +10 ft tall in golden armor, magic and a flaming sword at his word.
indigo fjord
I'm still waiting for news of the 40k series Henry Cavill is supposedly interested in making
TV*
Or was it a movie? I forgot.
crisp heath
I feel like if we ask him every single question we had about his actions he would be able to talk through every one and make us think he did the right thing
celest dome
tv
crisp heath
If he is really that guy
green loom
He isn't
storm jungle
thats basically what a tyrant is yep
green loom
That's like half the point lel
"Well you see I got fragmented visions on how I could do this thing, so I committed galaxy wide genocide in a brutal conquest to unite humanity"
crisp heath
And we’d believe him is the scary part
storm jungle
yeah because Uriah was smart
"Im not like those tyrants"
"how"
"because I know im right"
"THATS LITERALLY WHAT IM FUCKING SAYING YOU ARENT"
Last Church in a nutshell
verbal path
The best part was the Emperor had converted him at the end.
celest dome
The other Perpetuals who later left Emperor does show that it was a failure
storm jungle
The best part was the Emperor had converted him at the end.
Not really
he still denied him and wanted to die with his church
celest dome
The best part was the Emperor had converted him at the end.
How did you even get this take
plush mason
>Last Church in a nutshell
its such a great story lol
verbal path
He was set to follow him until Big E decided to torch the church
storm jungle
He was denying him even before that
the irony was that the god Uriah thought WAS the Emperor
he still denied him and said he would not join him
verbal path
Only after he saw the Thunder Warriors start burning it down.
dusty comet
so me and another guy in another server are trying to explain 40k lore in its entirety to someone new to it
and the last 3 hours were spent explaining the start, the DAOT, the Age of Strife, the great crusade, and the horus heresy
verbal path
How did you even get this take
They were walking down out of the church having accepted the Emperor until he saw the Thunder Warriors start to torch the place and made him realize the Emperor was just another tyrant.
green loom
You know next time if someone starts explaining 40k lore to someone by starting with anything pre M40 I'm going to give them the Cadian special
verbal path
Give them the ol' Kasrkin double tap.
storm jungle
and the last 3 hours were spent explaining the start, the DAOT, the Age of Strif...
Yeah uh no offense
those events can be explained in like at least 20 to 30 minutes lmao
3 fucking hours is a bit 💀
verbal path
Why would you start with the DAoT???? THERES LIKE NO LORE FOR IT
dusty comet
You know next time if someone starts explaining 40k lore to someone by starting ...
they specifically asked for shit in order
dusty comet
~~Why would you start with the DAoT???? THERES LIKE NO LORE FOR IT~~
DAOT isnt what we spent most of that time on
if anything we literally just said, "basically optimistic generic sci-fi timeline here"
mentioned the men of iron stcs, and move right on to age of strife
storm jungle
I wouldn't really call DAOT "optimistic" but its close enough i guess
dusty comet
most of the time was me trying to skim through the horus heresy
storm jungle
Theres a lot of shit you can skip there yeah
dusty comet
like typing out the main events
storm jungle
dusty comet
i handed off things after explaining where each of the primarchs were after the heresy because theres no way in hell i can remember everything that happens up to the fall of cadia
bar stuff like krieg, the war for armageddon, badab, vraks, so on and so forth
green loom
Nothing really significant happens beyond like
Some isolated storylines
The Tyranid invasion of Ultramar
Damocles Crusade
Gothic War
And then just the 13th Black Crusade
verbal path
Those are the ones that really advanced the plot.
dusty comet
thats why i told him to ping me back when he got to Cadia
green loom
It's not that monolithic it's just a chore to dig out the plot from the slop
dusty comet
christ someone could literally write a whole ass CYOA literal tome with the amount of 40k lore out there
green loom
More than likely
green loom
I mean bruh the Heresy(not counting the Siege) has like 50 something books, and 40 of them are mostly irrelevant filler/background dressing
verbal path
The God Couch
The Gamer Chair.
storm jungle
christ someone could literally write a whole ass CYOA literal tome with the amou...
If you want a good general-general list here
Pretty much the most "major" events from top (old) to bottom (new)
dusty comet
basically supremely rendering it down so that we're not spending hours on the timeline alone
storm jungle
Pretty much
and even most events on this timeline arent that important
like for example the Abyssal Crusade can be explained in like 2-3 minutes
dusty comet
most to my knowledge like the shadow and thramal crusade are just for fucking with loyalists
green loom
Yeah these guys went in and got rizzed up by the unfathomable mass of murder energy so now they're slightly more evil than before
dusty comet
im looking at you night lords
green loom
Shadow crusade is mostly word bearers/world eaters getting the jump on Ultras and then getting supremely gimped by the BA/DA/Ultras
Thramas is the Night Lords being continuously butchered until Curze runs the hell away
dusty comet
chaos didnt have to do anything to them, like very little if anything about them changed which is funny if not for the fact of how fucked they are that the chaos gods took one look and said "I see nothing wrong with this"
dusty comet
Calth and nuceria was probably my favorite events
green loom
Nah theres a few that got entirely corrupted
Granted it wasn't a substantial change from the status quo
dusty comet
Nah theres a few that got entirely corrupted
i mean the nightlords overall bar the ones you mentioned
OH FUCK
dusty comet
i forgot to mention Rylanor
storm jungle
I mean
normal light
My favourite events Fall of Cadia , Seige of Vraks 💀
green loom
"violent butcher" turns into "violent butcher but glowy"
dusty comet
yeah but hes cool tho
storm jungle
I mean i guess?
dusty comet
fair
storm jungle
dusty comet
is this one of those things where its "If you forgot it, it probably wasnt that important anyway"?
green loom
The kicker about Rylanor is that he fails and no one will ever know about him except Fulgrim
verbal path
Rylanor serves no purpose
I'm just happy to find out whatever happened to him 
dusty comet
he smoked himself wile basically bitchslapping fulgrim with a virus bomb
storm jungle
The kicker about Rylanor is that he fails and no one will ever know about him ex...
The worst part about Rylanor is ||whenever I hear people reference the song made about him that incredibly boosted his popularity by that one youtuber I keep getting reminded that he admitted to being a pedo 💀 ||
verbal path
dusty comet
whomst?
green loom
Ya
storm jungle
he makes A LOT of 40k songs
dusty comet
bruh
storm jungle
especially for other 40k content creators
green loom
Mostly bad ones
storm jungle
yeah uhhh it was a bit out of nowhere
dusty comet
like who? the one named after an architectual element?
green loom
Oh I meant bad songs
It's like
generic beat
vaguely rhyming lyrics
sound effects match vocals
That's the song
storm jungle
but anyway yeah that aside Rylanor is fine, theres a lot of good loyalist elements out there with matching badass moments like that
green wedge
That song did do alot to boost Rylanor
but try the short story
its also great just saying
so much cool lore is only told to most people through memes
green loom
"cool lore" that's straight false more often than not
storm jungle
that too
green wedge
The fuck are you doing here then? lol
verbal path
Outdated memes is the lifeblood of 40k.
green loom
I like to call it the Eternal Telephone Game
storm jungle
accurate
dusty comet
me seeing the 40kth shovel meme in a row
storm jungle
the shovel meme is out of its renaissance age at this point, where before nobody ever said anything about it
green loom
You can like trace a string of YouTubers who got popular off the exact same meme back like 10 years or so lol
storm jungle
now theres a lot of people that just hate it which is new to me as an old fan
dusty comet
what about majorkill?
green loom
A macho dickweed but inoffensive otherwise
verbal path
Know an old meme that should die already? ||Matt Ward hate||
dusty comet
i think hes done a good job of coming up with content without him being super lazy about it
storm jungle
Yeah i just kinda dislike him when hes like
HERES A VIDEO OF WHY IM BETTER THAN OTHER 40K YOUTUBERS
dusty comet
honeslty i genuinely believe its only continued by people who just didnt like how much he propped up the ultramarines
storm jungle
Know an old meme that should die already? ||Matt Ward hate||
Ward is still getting hatemail to this day due to a decision that was entirely made by GW to make him write garbage which is sad
dusty comet
because his other stuff is great
green loom
Know an old meme that should die already? ||Matt Ward hate||
Ah yes, the 40k version of WW2 Tiger Fever
green loom
Yeah it's pretty much one to one lol
verbal path
Ward is still getting hatemail to this day due to a decision that was entirely m...
40k players carry longer grudges than dwarfs.
dusty comet
honestly the way that the ultramarines were presented are probably why it hurts as much as it does to watch them get slaughtered in new content
green loom
plush mason
but anyway yeah that aside Rylanor is fine, theres a lot of good loyalist elemen...
the anchorite casually deleting the word bearer's daemon army and telling the ecclisiarch they are all fools following in the word bearer's footsteps
green loom
honestly the way that the ultramarines were presented are probably why it hurts ...
See the funny part is
It probably wasn't the ultramarine thing that got him hate
It was probably his rules
dusty comet
stuff like the sergeant from pariah nexas get killed, or the homeys getting wasted by tyrannids,
nice job leaving the fucking apothecary unguarded fellas, bravo
green loom
From what I've heard from old heads
storm jungle
mid 2000's 40k fans were the epitome of chuds
green loom
Ward armies were great to throw against each other
dusty comet
i know people absolutely hated 9th edition with the tau
green loom
But you fight them with anything else? Adios
dusty comet
like outright refuse to play