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yeah
i think Dorn coming back with one hand will be enough character development lol
Dorn with an Iron hand 
I think one of the ways to make warp travel hilarious is funny
Dorn coming back with Ferrus Manus’s Iron Ha- FUCK YOU BEAT ME TO IT
they have menials/soldiers/officers all draw straws
and whoever loses
gets sacrificed to the navigator via eye exposure lol
and the seizures get interpreted to chart a course better
holy shit lol
imagine being the seizure interpreter
Its the navigator lol
Black Library authors be smoking some good shit when writing some of these books lol
after they get 99% of the way done killing
ah yes, that spasm obviously means we need to go this way
they just interpret the spasms and seizures of the dying person lol
like. in rogue trader you have a helmsman and i wonder wtf he does
This is one of GW's codex writers doing lol
realspace most likely
Not the weirdest thing ever done
Hell not even irl
And if they're in the warp most likely for emergancy disengagment
if the captain/navigator both get incapacitated
There was a group who dug up an old king’s corpse, put it on trial, found it guilty, then executed it
humanity is weird lol
he was very important for the translocation but i think it was just to ensure the existing and entering realspace didnt end with the ship slamming into a moon or something lol
LOL
one of these days god's gonna be like "yep, lost your rights to sentience" and we all return to monkee
guess he double checks the navigators work lol
it makes me think of one of the ships comming out of the warp and the helmsman having to just rip the wheel to one side to avoid something in real space lol
"that FUCKING NAVIGATOR" - Some helmsman
excuse me, that FUGGIN* NAVIGATOR
can a hurricane?
Honestly, probably not unless Big E rises from the golden throne and goes anime mode
they are very much a force of nature
return to sender the blackstone fortress Abaddon threw at Cadia
Only way we know how to kill one
is via Ynead
maybe
And the Imperium ruined any chance of that ever happening
Just stop being horny and slaneesh dies.

Easy.
I'd like to thank the deathwatch
an impossible task for the Eldar
for deciding that disrupting an Eldar ritual
would be better then killing a Chaos God
I think you can't ever kill a choas god as much as use collective consciousness to alter them
Big E did burn one of Nurgles Gardens which is quite a feat
my guy the imperium hasnt known how to do that since before it even existed lol. it has quadrillions of quadrillions of civilians for a reason
Mass deployment of chemicals
he burned a tiny portion of it which was a good showing
before nurgle promptly told him to fuck off
and dragged mortarion into his manor
Like Slaanesh without excess would be just a god of pleasure, probably pretty chill.
Khorne without wanton blood and skulls would be an honorable warrior.
Nurgle would probably stay nurgle and Tzeentch would probably stay Tzeentch
Mortarion is prolly getting Caned still lol
Mortarion is a cringe lord
just beat with the spoon
No daddy please save me
Remove the pestilence and disease and Nurgle turns into the god of medicine and alchemy
I've noticed that a lot of authors prefer to use Nurgle in their books
Belt with studs and all
Nurgle is simple
and easy to write about
same with Khorne
Tzeentch and Slaanesh you have to put some thought into
I feel like that'd be enough of an antithesis of nurgle that'd be just powering Isha
Slaanesh you have to horny post for and Tzeentch good luck understanding that guy
Khorne is kinda boring though
nah Nurgle has a wooden spoon so he 100% uses that grandma style when he needs too
lol
but it usually goes the way of the horny
yes
Doesn’t help the Slaaneshi look like they’re wearing regal gimp suits
or any other greater daemon that displease him
Nurgle gives mortarions swirlies in his cauldron
Slaanesh has nothing to do with sex and never has
its literally 99% body torture
💀
then body horror
Slaanesh has been an unfortunate victim of the memes
Omg I just realized
and then you decide eating your neigbors kid while skinning yourself alive
sounds fun
Wait, I can't say the word for mass sex piles on a 40k server?
exess always starts off slow and simple. then just grows and grows
the autobot is really stupid
just circumvent it

Well, lotta funny ways to phrase big ol' sex piles I guess lol
Then there's Tzeentch, who's edgy.
Still funny how this is one of the only depictions of Slaanesh we have
sex pile is descriptive enough
The non relative reunion, the gang group hug, the passionate Palace, the Fleshy Sleeping bag

wtf are those waystones?
i wish we got Khornite daemons in Darktide but Nurgle works better for the setting
Giant constructs made by the Elven gods to prevent Slaanesh from breaking out of their prison
via magic
Sounds like the nids are next
you mean big ol' distracting sex toys?
And what Better way to counter genestealers than those who replaced their flesh with metal
genestealers incoming
I really wanna see how they’ll do an Admech class
while they try to get them to puke up more elf souls lol
LOL

If it isn’t nids then what are they teasing?
LITERALLY NOTHING
your mum


It's Skaven then.
isn't all the nid talk just the fact that one of the leaders of the warband fought nids before
BUT BUT THE VOX, XENOS ACTIVITY, LICTOR(??)
YES
They're coming
What would you do if it did turn out to be GSC?
FORSHADOWING, OBVIOUSLY NIDS ARE NEXT ENEMY FACTION
eat my shorts probably
Xenos activity could be some giant crocadile
thats eating people
big gator miniboss when
only acceptable if they roll around as balls during the horde
Is it at least plausible to see more classes in the future?
the thing skulking around in the shadows is actually a purple ork
Me to people saying Genestealers are coming soon
Yes. Its a lot more plausible to expect those + new weapons + new maps.
best attack animation in CA history
bro if it's a Crotalid we're all fucked.
everyone
just punt the fuckers
enforcers are just worse guardsmen
lore wise
regarding combat skill
I mean Savant was an Enforcer
the Savant is a psyker
beat the shit outta everyone
the average enforcer is a worse soldier
Mentioned he was an Enforcer for Lex Atoma
An Arbitrator would be nice
maybe with a few unique handcannons
and none of our characters are an average guardsmen
Dual wield?
they're veterans
Isn't the average guardsmen like "point your gun that way"?
the lex atoma is the laws of the city btw
not really
lex is law in latin
Dual Wielding I could see it with a Scum/Hive Ganger
quaity varies
Then idk what the group of the enforcers Savant was a part of is called
but enfocers are literally cops
theyre recruited from planetary defense forces majority of the time so no
They're cops
pretty sure most gaurdsmen are trained really well. PDF are the "hey, you're militia now, here's a lasgun"
they commit police brutality
I know that
as instructed by the god emperor
Enforcers are just cops, the cops of the Planetary governor and his office

but don’t the enforcers have a specific name?
Sometimes. Enforcer is the catch all term
or "descriptor" + enforcer
like on necromunda the enforces are just called the "insert hive city name here" enforcers
Like Necromunda has the Palatine Enforcers
I.E the enforcers on Necromunda are called Palantine Enforcers
Then what other classes could we see?
some form of tech adept
I think Scum could be reasonable
i want arbites class with a cyber mastiff
Plenty of gangers to round up and press gang
which is due to the fact the TT is played in the captial hive city of Palantine

Lmao the cyber mastiff homing missile from Necromunda Underhive wars or whatever it was
state sponsered mandatory police brutality
Yeah. The Enforcers work for the planetary goveroner
Then what’s the SWAT of Warhammer?
policing a hive city almost makes you wish for a virus bombing
Just... high grade enforcers
the arbites i guess
Damn
Arbites is more like FBI right?
ofc they are also more like imperial FBI
SWAT is FBI
I hear that FBI thing alot but I don't know enough
FBI Special Weapons and Tactics
I think SWAT is just the special weapons and tactics of a precint?
they are
the FBI has their own
SWAT is federal level tmk
no
the arbites are the galactic police force pretty much
FBI just uses local forces unless said forces cant handled it then they call in forces from near by
and theyre dripped out
- Enforcers are employed by the Planetary Governor
- Arbritiators enforce the Imperial rules on the planet and govenor and otherwise stay out of the way
arbites drip when?
Arbites also make good daemonh- Nothing.
Arbites also are usually pretty fanatical
Medieval Judge Dredd looking mf
to the imperium
Yes.
Two people could have a fist fight outside the precint doors and the Arbrities will just what. But someone throws a rock that brushes the head of an Imperial Scribe and they'll roll out the tanks
where do the arbites train anyway?
Schola
so just like the SOB and commissars
I reccomend the Shira Calpurnia books
goes indepth. Really interesting internal imperial politics
also shes cute
hell some scribes come from the schola lol
Would.
Hot take: that armor sucks
is that a holy baton?
Barely protects her
The chest plate needs to be at least half the length of the torso
ok fatshark power batons when?
I mean we have Paul
let me go full cloaker on these fool heretics
If we go by Dan Abnett then we should also easily be capable of defeating a chaos marine
i could definitely see a plague marine miniboss in the future
if we can kill chaos spawns and beast of nurgle so easily then we're ready for the big leagues
its 40k and we are the main protags of the story, we could kill mortarian himself if fatshark feels like it
we have le plot armour
yup
Yup
got that main character plot armor so ofc we win
Yeah our little convicts wouldn't make it past the first horde
more plot armor than a named ultramarine
yup
Not enough plot armor to save my headset 
Cato over in the corner crying
We are the mkvenner(s) of this story.
didnt pray to the omnissia enough
It’s that weak ass connector for the ear piece
Thin and flimsy
I’ve learned to hate headsets that use that design
we probably could have cleared the hordes but the first Beast or Chaos Spawn it would have been a wrap, hell the first plague ogryns would probably have been too much
if we hadnt already succumbed to whatever fun plague papa nurgle cooked up for Atoma
I feel like they'd run into a lot of trouble once they meet that Moebian 6th
definitely would have been a major issue
The cultists maybe, but the scabs are all veterans
killing unarmed poxwalkers is one thing but actual armed combatants is a problem
Oh are Hive scum basically your renegade underground cheap fighter?
We got Black Library named character plot armor though babbbyyyy
theyre the gang bangers of the 40k verse
I know only one way that term is used so uhhhh

that honestly the only reason i like the DKOK/SL skins, that kit just makes the most sense for this kinda battlefield
I need to learn more about hive gangers
from what I understand their basically feudal armies of the gangs
Check out the houses of Necromunda
Wasn’t there a cinematic of Death Korps vs Orks that took place in a similar setting to Darktide?
shit's whack
So Necromunda have nothing to do with Necrons
youd definitely want to be wearing PPE
Armaggedon Steel Legion got the stuff for Atoma
yeah for kill team
The trailer has just dropped for Kill Team!! It has apparently been redesigned from the ground up. The ultimate special ops game set in the 41st Millennium!
Personally I'm really looking forward to this, mainly because it lets me play with loads of different forces without collecting full armies, will you be picking this one up?
#warhammer #ki...
DKOK kit works just about the same afaik. because they both come from and fight in similar places
the krieg would probably be the ones to go in and purge the hive once things got out of hand lol
Dark Eldar definetly isn't Edlar
Remember when Hammer and Bolter was the first GW produced animations for Warhammer+ after the IP crackdown and everyone was super pissed off?
then we got things like The Exodite, Angels of Death, and Pariah Nexus
lmao
if you ask the craftworld ones they arent
if you ask the drukhari they are the only true eldar
same for the exodites afaik
Suffer not the Xeno to live
its the same crap the elves in fantasy in yup
the eldar are like the most 1:1 transfer from fantasy to 40k
The coolest elves in fantasy imo are the Dwemer in Elder Scrolls
thats a very low bar ngl lol
Based Babylonian inspired elves who killed themselves trying to play god rather than sit about and follow their predestined path as their gods plan
I thought they vanished because they discovered that their reality was all a dream and basically ascended.

No
They died because they’re so egotistical they tried to make themselves gods
Actually I’m not sure if they are dead or just trapped in some absurd plane
So, lots of one liners about ogryns wanting to eat everything. Is it safe to say they are corpse vacuums after battles? Gotta get protein somehow right?
And that, doesn't change the fact they "killed themselves/vanished" because the entirety of the Elder Scrolls takes place in the dreams of a god
its still up for interpretation
both are popular opinions about what happened to them
afaik the dwemer fucked around with the elder scrolls and found out why that is a bad idea
ngl my money is they got eaten by Acatosh or whatever
Was very likely part of how they achieved the "enlightenment" lol
it very much was
because they built all kinds of shit to be able to read the scrolls safely
iirc, they could manipulate reality via song, which is also how they made all those grand underground structures. The songs would manipulate the mind of the god head and shape their reality to their wanting
maybe they died or maybe they are in another reality, but we do have the dwemer NPC in morrowind
but yeah, I'm not entirely sure how the elder scrolls came into play, but I think when they figured out how to read them they done poofed out from extisential crisis lol
they where the only ones to be able to read them and not go blind
so maybe they just went insane instead
I'm having to look it up on the wiki, but apparently it was due to attaching their race to the Heart of Lorkhan, which is what Dagoth Ur was protecting
you use one of their devices made to read the scrolls in skyrim iirc
Yep
ye, in the black reaches I think, that shit was so cool
sunder
It's been a hot minute/couple decades since I've played morrowwind lol
my first ES game was oblivion and its still the best one to date imo
I definitely liked Oblivion, it had its issues, but it was a blast to play
Rogue Traders fit better for adventure-esque stuff
Tertium is uhhh
not super the place for that

Nah I’m sure there’s something
look. VT2 has a summoner class. so if we do get a 4th for DT it has to be one too

gonna be a tinkerer/engineer class I bet
So Admech
summoning autoguns and whatnot lol
nah, admech would deal with their own convincts probably
make a lot of sense to arrest a tinkerer/engineer for tech heresy
hell it can be a leymechainic with a servoskull that has an autopistol taped to it for all i care
that'd be hilarious lol
Enginseer?
odds are it wouldnt be a full member of the cult
oh wait
rattling quartermaster that summons a squad of rattlings
and can pass out booze to the party
I just want this either as a class or as a Zealot cosmetic
is that a witchhunter?
So does it work as a class or….
no because an Inquisitor is way above our grade
yeah
could work for that yeah
i mean if Gryndal has SL and DKOK on their payroll throne only knows what else they have
SL?
steel legion
steel legion
Oh
also i would kill to have jackboots like Marrow's
Okay ill say this, it doesnt work BECAUSE of the way the game is setup.
Now lets say if Fatshark made the Tertium situation more like Vermintide where you are a small retinue of an Inquisitor who doesnt have a massive army behind him/her and just wants to go down and solve the situation with you all together? That works.
The point i was making was thats not what the setup of THIS game is, here its just one problem among many others on Inquisitor Grendyl's radar and he has chosen Zola and his Interrogator Rannick to go and deal with it instead of him and report back to him.
Man why can I never play the cool looking crap 
isnt the fringe war still raging while all of this is happening?
just explaining so im not just being a negative nancy 
Yep but thats not our aim
yeah i know but i wonder if Gryndal is also keeping an eye on that
Inquisitors and Rogue Traders are basically built with an RPG mindset in mind, its why you can have them be in any sort of scenario with any sort of power/team-members/abilities etc
its extremely D&D esque that way
im sure the guard is doing its thing
hell afaik both of them are from GW's take on the DND tt games
Yeah its for Dark Heresy and the titular Rogue Trader
where you can do your own games/plots
40k is suppose to be a massive sandbox setting
yeah its got wargames and rng adventures just by default
Yet we get mid tier Psykers and can’t play an Inquisitor 
Yeah Fatshark chose a more safer route lol
compared to Vermintide where you are a full blown adventure team
there is the ARPG inquisitor
where you can be an inquisitor and one shot great unclean ones for kicks kekw
all while solo
Yeah you can basically do anything
though thats stuff to usually avoid
because it just enters mary sue category

100000%
And GW is also guilty of his
^
hell the ARPG's plot is about finding a freak of nature that is both psyker and blank and was made to be a copy of the emperor kek
Yeah lmao
and then yeeting her into the warp to stop a second eye of terror from opening
Inquisitor games should be just like Darktide where you deal with a small threat on your own amidst thousands of other problems across the galaxy
theres nothing wrong with them being grand, you just gotta know your limit
I’m sure they do otherwise where are these sick beats coming from?
Theres a boombox in the game
it just has a skull in the middle

The machine spirit blasting the hardest beats while I beat a rogue captain’s ass
i always punch or shoot them if they make noise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olqaqM21Dro this has been viewed 1.2 million times btw
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btw im having a mania episode rn so sorry in advance
classic Jesper Kyd reaction
lmao its alright
What are the lore implications of having such a banger soundtrack
Imagine giving your entire life to the Imperium and then your remains become part of someone's fucking boombox that some convicts randomly stumble upon and destroy 'just because'
There really needs to be more destructible objects that you can just interact with in-game
Would give the levels more flavor
'just because'
Please no, i can barely run darktide i don't want another one that would contribute to fps lost
The Imperium of Mankind is just so fucking unserious lmao
Its probably why the 40k universe is one of my favorite settings 💀
To be honest they're incredibly zealous nature and absolute belief in humanities superiority makes them one weirdest fictional factions i've met
The amount of propaganda spread and the galaxies to the point that even the lowliest of servants would die as just being slaves for their whole life
Do ogryns and ork’s like fighting each other?
I feel like in another life they’d be buddies
The fact that Darktide is literally just a workplace comedy is so fucking funny
Yeah
Orks respect ogryns
And will willingly even hire them as mercenaries
That’s a thing?
Yeah
What do they pay them with? Teeth?
friendship 🤷♂️
Lunk's Ladz, the mercenary ogryns that work for the Bad Krumpany
The mek of the bad Krumpany disabled the burst limiters on their guns, allowing them to fire fully auto without any repercussions
wow
wtf is the bad Krumpany?
worse krumpany
A group of Blood axe Orks that think that imperial tactics are good
And so they copy a lot of imperial tactics and even attire to some degree
War boss even has a pet human
think like the enemy but do it better eh? seems too smart for orks
i thought the ork commissar stuff was just a meme
Those are Blood axe
Orks of the blood axe clan are absolutely hated by the other orks because they use tactics and even retreat when needed, they like imperium tactics and are actually the first orks to meet them
They copy a lot of imperial clothing choices
So is everyone pronouncing 'Roboute Guilliman' differently lore-accurate
Nah
he has one name
Ro-BOOTAY Gul-lee-man.

at least thats how british people spell it
rowboat girlyman
I call him giant blue depressed blueberry
i call him papasmurf
I mean like
no thats me
All the rejects pronounce his name differently lmao
I'm just wondering if thats intentional 💀
yeah thats because he has a complex name
its why they all call him Guilliman
much more simple
Yeah Guilliman is already quite something to pronounce
Warhammer 40k Darktide squad dialogue/voice lines compilation and gameplay
Playlist for voicelines: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOKyPtdTuLLainwhpek-SpQ7UWd6j6zy4
#voicelines
Well the rejects pronounce it differently lmao
I find it very amusing
its the actors probably
what would you do if that name showed up on your script

freestyle that shit
fuckin goolyman
Either the voice director puts their different pronunciations in to make the personalities feel more authentic or its lack of care idk
Sorry mate i call you the local black templar that carries a shotgun
I'm nitpicky about this because of shitty English dubs that have different pronunciations for the same names (looking at you Genshin Impact)
could be more of the script writers than anything for not knowing the pronounciations or it's on purpose
It'd be funnier if its on purpose
What is Auric-Level anyway? Is that like Spec-OPs or Navy Seals?
think expendables level
Never seen that movie
high skilled band of mercs
Auric would be gold, so basically spec ops yeah
In our case, it's for actual, proper warband kill teams with full operatives(aka us post 30)
Ya know, I'm just wondering when vanilla is gonna support scoreboard and actual level or whatever it is
I don't think they want to include either
And if I'm being honest
The only argument you need against it is people who use the scoreboard mod 
i wouldnt object to scoreboard going official but it'd need some refinery
nice for spotting weakpoints in your builds or seeing where a teammate could improve
(but yeah you'd obviously have people being toxic, guilty of it myself)
having a scoreboard was the most common critism of vermintide 2
players running ahead/off to pump their numbers
tbh that's just funny
remember a friend of mine running off and activating everything in chaos wastes trying to make up for not having good matches
he proceeds to end the run then and there :D
cant really be mad at it, shits funny to me
Average kerillian player rushing ahead, downing and proceeding rq
Are the ogryns in this game one of the smarter ones? Like they can solve the interrogation device puzzles
Most, if not all of them, have undergone the bonehead procedure or at least implied that they have so they are smarter than most ogryns
Bodyguard and Bully are naturally smart
Brawler is the only one with the implant
but his implant is unfortunately cooking his brain
Guard talks about asking for the procedure
random thought just popped in my head, are there any space marine chapters that use orange as their primary color?
It's fucking annoying is what it is
So far I've only had one sweaty meta-dog rushing zealot in almost 300 hours, in VT2 I couldn't even play multiplayer because everyone ran the hell ahead
I recall one but it's uncommon iirc
Lemme looks
The Covenant of Fire and Knights of Gryphonne are both mainly orange
Can space marine scouts wear helmets or nah?
I guess not right, because they dont have the exo suit and the helmet connects to the suit?
sorry, fibro-muscle not exo suit
They do have special visors at least
They don't wear marine helmets
On tabletop people like to kitbash stormtrooper helmets on them tho
Mye methinks there's no like
Yeah, i have my own homebrew chapter but i want to keep it within lore as close as i can.
Full on rule against it
At some point I'll get a 3d printer and I think it would be cool to redesign space marine helmets to look a bit different and fit the scouts.
At least its cool to fantasise about doing so because i doubt i'd ever get around to it lol.
Very easily yes
They look bad 💀
Who is the strongest chaos god?
Their strengths are not comparable
Khorne
In terms of raw power output
he is the god of war and blood
In warhammer those two things are plenty
So basically every second he is getting powerful
That’s kinda what I figured.
Well, certainly one is arguably more powerful than the others. I mean, Bulgar raises a very good point about Khorne. He’s the chaos god of war and blood which are plentiful in Warhammer. Surely that counts for something right?
But of course, I’m aware that each chaos god has their own ways of growing stronger. Slaanesh feeds off desires and pleasure, Nurgle feeds off disease and decay, Tzeentch… I actually don’t know
Varies
Sometimes it's Khorne, sometimes nurgle, sometimes the other two
Ah fair
Tzeentch used to be the strongest thanks to the advancements of humanity Khorne and Nurgle decided to knock his *** down a few pegs
It ultimately doesn't really matter since if one gets too big the others just team up on them until the playing field is even again
the way the setting is currently going Khorne we'll get the gang up beat up treatment
Each passing second he is getting more power which the other three do not like
Interesting
Thank you all for the responses!
So in Darktide specifically, could it be said that Nurgle is the most powerful?
war is still happening in the planet so it can still indirectly affect khorne
In darktide Nurgle's influence is obviously most profound
But yes currently the cultist favor Nurgle
On Atoma Nurgle just has the largest chaos cult
Through mostly means of corrupting the populace I’m guessing, based on the cutscenes in the beginning
The great game proper transcends regular reality
The hordes of shambling corpses are unwilling yeah
But all the dregs are full cult members
Depend on the period, their power wax and wane all the time
At the moment it's mostly Nurgle which is starting to wane and Khorne that is wax
What are you guys gunna do when Dante and Mephiston sacrifice themselves to resurrect Sanguinius?
All the Primarchs are coming out the ass so like it’s only a matter of time where best boy comes back
didn't sanguinius get fragmented
I'm pretty sure he's like ripped apart to pieces right
I might be misremembering here but I'm pretty sure he got a very gruesome death
Nah it wasn’t that bad
He had gone through quite a lot before fighting Horus and just got beat by Horus
He basically got his shit kicked in
the artwork makes it look prettier than what is gonna happen to him soon

got to stay fancy even in the beating
so they say
Yea he fought Chaos Titans, Ka’Bhanda and Angron before confronting Horus so he was a little fucked up
Yeah I've read the spoilers, it ain't pretty 
Lmao yep
Wasn't his body starting to rot/blacken from Angron's stab wound too
Sanguinius basically had plot armor to the max before going to Horus since he isnt literally allowed to die yet lol
Ka'bandha straight up beat him in the first fight
Yea if not for everything else Hawkboy would’ve beaten the shit out of Horus
They had to break his plot armor and put chips in it before they could kill him. I’d say Plot Armor saved Horus from Sanguinius
Not really
Horus was literally an avatar of chaos at that point
him beating the shit out of Sanguinius is entirely fair
Yeah it can barely be called Horus
^
He's more or less just a flesh puppet by the end
Whatever was left of "Horus" got axed by Maloghurst after Russ stabbed him
Sanguinius beating everything thrown at him then acting "uwu im so mopey" already got tiring after the first few Siege books
Horus was a kind man that one was a monster
Well no Horus was manipulative and egotistical by default 
His little Davin Debacle made things much worse
eh I call him bald man
I don’t think so straight Sanguinius would’ve raw dogged Chaos Horus
Again he only lost cause of his dire injuries
He didnt
And he's also still wounded
Yeah it's like an Angel fighting the God of evil
Yeah in End and the Death it's basically not even "reality" anymore, it doesn't matter how strong who is
^
an is angel strong yes but nothing against a god
No I don’t think you realize how strong Sanguinius actually was. He was regarded as one of the absolute strongest Primarchs
Leman Russ beat Chaos Horus
Like it's been a pretty consistent story beat in the last few siege books
Horus wasnt an avatar at that point.
And Leman got his ass whooped by Sanguinius
Russ beat conflicted horus
Sanguinius lasted as long as he did because he literally has in-universe plot-armor.
Who also wasn't in the warp
This is entirely irrelevant 
Power levels are made up
Like this isn't some vague little event anymore
We've got a dozen books detailing the siege and the leadup to the fight
Horus isn't Horus anymore, he's functionally a god
Ruin Storm makes it pretty clear how Sanguinius could beat Horus
Ruin storm was a few books before this 
yeah in warhammer 40k A Guardsman could beat up a bloodthirster if the author wanted
Like you have to understand, by end and the death
There is no Terra
It's all a literal setpiece
Twisted by the warp
Horus is also on his way to become another chaos god
Horus has become so powerful that his will shapes and bends reality to his whims
Sanguinius is not beating him
as I said before the entire reason he survived this long is because he is suppose to get killed by Horus as per the script

I'd say something but that's spoilers for volume 2 
The emperor literally had to full on doctor Manhattan the guy
just to make sure he doesn't survive
Spoiler it
I need the juicy bits

Do it chapter master aren't you so brave to face an inquisitor?
||Sangy gets to the bridge because Horus lets him
He then beats Horus, but only because Horus was trying to convince him to join
Horus then grabs his next attack, bashes the Talon of Horus into his chest, and breaks his ribs, spine and neck by twisting it||
Yeah Horus is a bit beyond the others by now
More or less
"Played Cthonian Football you know"
"Could've gone pro if I hadn't joined the Emperor"
I legit cannot be arsed to read this book
From the like
full on Mortal Kombat
Vague summary I got
Now I'm picturing Horus launching sang like a ball across the deck
"Don't fuck with THIS warmaster!"
||Vulkan activates the Talisman of Seven Hammers
The real dark king may or may not have been Emps, but that hinged on him eating up warp power like crazy, which Ollanius and co tell him off from, probably why he drops dead at the end||
Huh fair enough
||wait who drops dead||
I haven't seen a proper spoiler thread yet
||As in, why he's left crippled after the fight with Horus, cus he went and fought him on what would be as close to "even ground" as we'll get||
AH okay yeah
What’s the timeline of Darktide
r40klore forbids people from posting recent releases since they are redditor neckbeards, we gotta probably rely on another source
How long has Atoma been under siege?
During the Plague Wars + we dont know the siege time
The Siege is recentish
Learning about the Cult of Admonition and their role in Darktide
The Cult's been there a while, but they finally sprung an uprising with the Moebians tagging along
How they had their influence on the Moebians and 6th regiment before it really fell
Atoma is important for the materials and Leman Russ Tanks but why don’t they just Exterminatus
The imperium wants to keep as much of their territory as possible
Exterminatus is a very extreme measure
They might be monsters but they are monsters that love their territory
It doesn't happen often
Let the Grey Knights see what’s happening 
Wasting an exterminatus on a planet like this in the first place is quite something
Kryptman blew up several worlds and got declared an idiot
Yeah Atoma is an imperial stronghold, not a random backwater
Exterminatus is much rarer than most morons think
yeah that guy at least had a reason to try to get the tyranids out of the system, wasting an entire exterminatus because a few heretics that we can deal with are just living there is another brand of stupid
That’s why I said Exterminatus why lose those resources to Chaos and not just let everyone lose the resources
because losing resources is still losing resources
Imperium isn't exactly in position to throw stuff around anymore
Idk the lore behind Darktide enough to talk like this though tbh
Yeah the meat grinder strategy of war is extremely costly
You're blowing up a hive world and sector capital 
That's not even lost
How far gone is the planet?
Not very
Seems like it’s barely standing do we even see any guard regiments?
The fact that our strike teams can still function within the deeper places means that it's not that gone
Heavier reinforcements would have been called if we can't deal with it
It's a crisis for sure, but there's still a pitched war going on
Yea but is that not plot armor?
Like how is the plague working?
Cause our characters can just walk in and out without any issues
Abnett wrote the background, the Ghosts go near daemonic shit nonstop and are mostly fine 
Theres an entire war going on around and in the hive, you can see PDF regiments holding off chokepoints and having firefights with the Moebians in the distance in some skyboxes.
Idk how our characters even beat a Daemonhost with how strong they can be
we are still fastly losing operatives
we have regular disinfection on the ship when we arrive from a mission, also gameplay and lore don't in interact well
I do see that
Morrow comments on it and constantly requests replacements
Yea I noticed
The gameplay and lore interactions I mean
The Tanith, in book one, kill multiple chaos marines, a daemon, and also go through heaps and heaps of corrupted bs and lose like 3 people to actual warpy stuff
How fucked chaos gets is entirely dependant on the author/plot relevance
40k is not a setting of cold, hard rules 
yeah warhammer has the most bendable properties for a plot ********
It's mainly just drama
like if you tell me a guardsman somehow kicked the nuts off chaos marine and win
I will 100% believe it
inconsistency in this setting is about as common as finding rocks outside of your house
iirc our pilot says the imperium controls the skies while the heretics control the rails so the hive still has a chance
That’s why we should get more stories about Chaos Space Marines decapitating poor guardsman

I’d say Fantasy was a lot more bendable look at how the series ended 
The vast majority of a hive is out of reach of air support, its like the interior to a country sized building... unless you just bomb layers off the surface like turbo belt sanding.
Idk it looks like our fellas are flying around fine
Its kind of questionable how they are, but their are probably fly zones corridors inside, with accessable landing pad zones
Yeah like we see in game 
The Hive interior is massive, Tertium isn't even a single hive
It's a Hive cluster
Or those inquisitor pilots are absolute mad lads, who are as skilled as they are crazy.
Like Consigment yard is entirely within the Hive Interior
The only maps where we can even see the sky are the desert ones
I imagine those maps are in the outer hive industrial zones, so not in the thick of it. I read Hive cities are like massive iceburgs, what you can see from the air is just a small portion of its massive volume
Look up next time on Consigment yard
Oh you mean the torrent?
Yep
There is no sky lol
still better than detroit
We also get Valkyrie exfil on uhhh
Hive Draco
Sorry
Hab Draco
Chasm Logistratum
Throneside
The torrent is literally a shanty town made in the waste system of the entire hive city
So gross
Oh wait
Yeah the chars tend to remark that the people there survive on feces
Something something something water cartel
yeah literally sifting through shit for food
you know the funny part?
It goes lower
Something something the enforcers abandoned the area
Wild
I wonder if the Nurgle invasion goes higher than throneside
No wait it does cuz we go outside the city limits for the desert map don’t we?
Or that’s not necessarily higher but rather ‘outside’ the city
Whatever my brain hurts now 
The uprising proper has hit Throneside
But they have benefactors in the spire nobility
Still inside city limits, like I said it's massive
It's just an abandoned portion
Ya think the hive nobility is in on spreading corruption?
Why wouldn’t they? 🤔
I imagine being a noble gets boring
Emperor forbid people have hobbies
One of the noble houses is helping the Moebians, that is a plotpoint in the current new map
Archivum Sycorax?
Wait really
yep
When do they say that
its the entire reason we go to the archives to get a list of suspects
Ascension Riser also
LITERALLY IN THE MISSION
Uh

Before or after the scroll
Yeah you're grabbing info on people lol
Before, after and in the middle
I’m sorry the only times I’ve been in that mission was like
When I’m literally fighting for my life
On Hi int 💀
Its nurgle, typically nobles actually live pretty good lives, so they fall into Slanessh cults. Nurgle doesn't offer much spoiled noblemen want, Nurgle offers a lot to the downtrotten lower class.
Darktide concept art is so fkn good
I need to play Heresy at some point cuz I feel like I miss so much dialogue playing on damnation all the time lmao
Power is power
They could be sponsoring the cult without being chaos tainted
To fuck things hard enough to supplant the current Lord Moebian
Can I give a quick shoutout to the name ‘throneside’
Throneside is such a fantastic name
Now using the nurgle infection as distraction to make power play moves, that is pretty much par for the course
I'm betting on using the crystals to make a Lascutter and start Pay Day 40k
‘Throneside’ implies that the area is close to the Emperor’s throne, signifying the affluence of the people there
Not the Emperor's throne
It just mean it's the religious sector
Yeah
There's a lot more temple/scholarly stuff there
I thought it meant something else
It is definitely much nicer
I wonder what the residential areas of the higher ups look like then
🤔
See here
literal doomed palices
They're called Spire Nobility for a reason
The higher you go to a hive city the more beautiful it is
Typically Houses will own their own spires and stuff iirc
imagine being able to see the sky
Power
Inb4 we get a mission where we’re sent to slaughter some nobles
Would there be like a class of people who are just a little bit more privileged than the ones we see in the habs
But not necessarily nobility
Yes but they still live in habs
Just less shit ones
Lol
Just not eating literal feces to survive
Would that be the people who run the manufactorums
Yeah now you're eating shit food to survive
Taste bad but it's better than shit
mangers get a decent living (subject to change based on planet)
No
Those are above the torrent
But live in shitty areas still
The torrent is close to the bottom rungs
No one cares if they starve
If the habs are any indication
I still don't think we have entered the underhive proper
We haven’t
I guess that means people who are a part of Grendyl’s warband get it pretty good
But the underhive might as well not be considered a part of society
We live in a gilded cage lol
It doesn't hurt for most of our chars since it's more or less a flat upgrade to what they're used to
Being a part of the warband gives special privileges don’t it?
Yes
Depends what you consider privileges 
You're just basically specialized troops for an inquisitor right now for a rank
Wish that including getting marksmen scopes for marksmen rifles
Holy shit no way
I hope they expand the mourningstar at some point
Housing system pls 🥺👉👈
Like complaining about the food can get us locked up
I need more superfluous systems that don’t add anything but flavor
Seer Psyker mentions how disappointed they are at Fanatic Zealot drinking again
Does that mean alcohol is widely accessible?
Honestly the reject story is kinda dumb, its an inquisitor warband, it would make sense that an elite team of spec ops grade vets, orgyns, priest, and psykers armed with the best equipment and purity seals, are how they make it even 10 seconds against a beast of nurgle
I wonder what would happen if the Imperium decided to make a prohibition on alcohol lmao
The beast of nurgle is honestly ludonarative dissonance
But
Oh yeah, cigrettes (lowsticks) too
Plenty of the conscripts died horrifically
A lot of operatives still die off-screen
We’re an exception to the rule
if you listen in the hub area on the ship Morrow constantly asks for more bodies
And on screen lol
Also yeah there’s dead operatives as well
All around the stages
Or dead pdf and enforcers
There was that ogryn that died fighting that hound
Probs the most recognizable one
Lol
Dude
im going to buy stuff at Melk
then the radio next to his station is blurting out operatives screaming to death

Just another day in the warband
Also there’s 0 chance that guy in the melk introduction cinematic lives lol
He’s totally fucking dead
It’s funny how powerful our operatives are to even become part of the warband proper yet we’re still disposable and treated like garbage (tho arguably less like garbage when we get into the warband)
oh its sucide missions no doubt, but that's just jobs in the inqusition in general.
We are part of the warband proper
By level 30
But like
Yet still treated like garbage somewhat lol
Everyone is ultimately disposable
The imperium is hilarious
Tbf better then treatment in like 90% of places
Yeah, also one of the reasons why hallowette is allowed considering her usual activities, she is an excellent supplier being skilled on bringing in supplies undetected
yeah at level 30, random hub dialog be like fanboy/girls oggling you
Oh yeah I’m not saying that doesn’t happen
One of the guys by the mission console still doesn’t like you
Word gets around the ship fast it seems
Probs all of them
And how many died again on the second or third
I see it trigger a lot after winning damnation missions
By that point we’re incredible lol
This guy?
Yeah leng
I've mapped all the named chars 
He mentions how trust is a strong word for how he feels about you lol
probably a genestealer
IMpossible, he has hair
Yeah he's basically careful with you

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