40k-lore-chat

[storm jungle]

Except dark eldar can just drop a blackhole on him

[green wedge]

just go get some of that knowledge from Prosper- oh

[crisp heath]

He'll punch the black hole

[hasty coral]

This is dumb lore

[storm jungle]

Welcome to 40k

[warm notch]

How do force staves work as conduits for warp powers?

[hasty coral]

Just like the necron star chart

[warm notch]

Is it like some special metal?

[storm jungle]

basically just a focusing torrent

it helps you gather and disperse it

[warm notch]

Ahhh

[hasty coral]

Shit that exists that isn’t used just for plot

[warm notch]

That’s cool

[urban spire]

they contain a warp conducting mechanism afaik

[jade holly]

It’s basically a glorified wand

[hasty coral]

Is bad lore shit

[jade holly]

[warm notch]

Do force staves let psykers use specific powers only like in game

Or do they generally help them use powers

[urban spire]

it's just a general aid

also a melee weapon

[warm notch]

Psyker monk when

[crisp heath]

Force staves are just a special type of force weapon, which can be made out of pretty much any warp sensitive material

Crystals are very common because psychic crystals are cool

[warm notch]

Gotcha

[green wedge]

The staves seem to represent different disciplines of the Pyrae honestly

[jade holly]

What are the official lore classes for Psykers based on their psychic strength?

[warm notch]

Tho I imagine some force staves can be made to aid more in a specific power

[jade holly]

Or tiers

[green wedge]

and or Raptora I suppose

Only because I quantify psykers through that lens I guess

I think the staves imply your discipline rather than you inheriting your powers from them... at least I hope lol

[warm notch]

Oh I was questioning if the staves were more conduits for more specific powers than generally aiding in the use of powers

[urban spire]

lightning is a biomancy power, incidentally

[green wedge]

Oh like... unfortunately the strongest psykers are literally called Alpha Plus psykers lol

which feels like a holdover from the parody era honestly lol

but isnt 😐

[urban spire]

why is it unfortunate

[green wedge]

Its..... a very dumb phrase

[high musk]

You're going into the Emperor's lunch, and you're gonna like it.

[green wedge]

XD

[urban spire]

why is it dumb?

[jade holly]

What tier are our Psykers in game?

Beta?

Delta?

[storm jungle]

Zeta/Epsilon

[high musk]

You don't let higher tier psykers wander around.

[storm jungle]

actually Beta works too

[jade holly]

What about the Grey Knights

[storm jungle]

Grey Knights are mary sues

so take a guess

[jade holly]

Alpha?

[storm jungle]

Alpha/Beta

[high musk]

Grey Knights are Astartes directly under the Inqusition, and have a lot of dubious lore around them.

[storm jungle]

"dubious" in massive quotation marks

also GK can operate without inquisitorial curfew

[high musk]

Some are even double incorruptible.

[storm jungle]

its the Inquisition who calls for them

[crisp heath]

Exorcists are Grey Knights for chads

[green loom]

Yeah GK are like the Deathwatch/SoB

[green wedge]

because it is, I wont be moved on this

[green loom]

technically a Chambers Militant but also their own thing

[crisp heath]

We could very easily take a plague marine

Just like a Spartan could kill a tactical marine

[storm jungle]

yeah GK just got more autonomy as the MIB of the setting

[high musk]

Remember, if you need to become resistant to Chaos, kill some Sisters of Battle, bathe in their blood and you're now pure as can be.

[storm jungle]

that got retconned

YEET

[jade holly]

I know they’re like strictly Daemonic focused

[high musk]

Thank the Phoenician.

[warm notch]

I headcanon Loose Cannon Vet as a Low level Psyker lmao.

She talks as if she’s “lucky”

Which would be funny if she really was a low level Psyker

[jade holly]

Loose Cannon is just dumb luck

[high musk]

Did the Suprememe Grand Master I can pin down a Primarch one handed guy also get retconned?

[jade holly]

Also the Savant Psyker was apparently something called an Enforcer

[warm notch]

Space cop

[storm jungle]

no hes just stuck in the warp

[green loom]

Draigo is still canon

[jade holly]

I’m guessing the Lex Atoma was the name of his group

[storm jungle]

because Draigo is a stupid character

[high musk]

And also pull out said Primarch's heart then start writing on it.

[storm jungle]

yeah that is stupid

lmao

[high musk]

At that point, he might as well fist fight Khorne and win.

[storm jungle]

FYI this was before he was grandmaster

💀

[jade holly]

Is there a chaos equivalent to the Grey Knights? (No I’m not counting Thousand Sons)

[high musk]

Grey Knights have a cool identity but some really bad lore screwed them.

Like Ultramarines.

[urban spire]

grey knights fundamentally have the same issue as all loyalist space marines, which is that good boys who always do as they're told don't make for interesting characters

[warm notch]

Are they like the Grey Jedi

AKA uninteresting

Lol

[jade holly]

They’re basically Paladin wizards who fight exclusively daemons

[warm notch]

Booooring

[urban spire]

they are very special space marines for fighting daemons, they all have psychic powers (which they use in the least interesting way possible) and as part of their creation they literally have their memories erased

[high musk]

They are super effective against Daemons because magic powers and stuff.

[green wedge]

I just wanna ask

[urban spire]

no grey knight has ever turned traitor

[green wedge]

have you guys read that book or...

[jade holly]

They look really cool tho

[green wedge]

are you taking the idea of how dumb it is from the meme

[warm notch]

All my information about the 40k universe is from osmosis :3

I know everything from shitposts

[green wedge]

XD well

[urban spire]

which book

[high musk]

I haven't cared about 40k lore since the return of the Primarchs.

[green wedge]

Draigo cutting out mortarion's heart, suffice to say, is alot less stupid sounding in its proper context lol

[high musk]

Gonna get through the Siege of Terra then drift I guess.

[green wedge]

also, not his own name

[high musk]

Was his Grandmaster's wasn't it?

[green wedge]

Yeah and the fact Draigo made it so Mortarion would never be able to forget about it literally did more damage to him than smashing open his chest cavity in the first place

[grave sparrow]

Grey Knights are a cool concept but not much beyond that.

[green wedge]

hard agree lol

[jade holly]

Man Mortarion is only getting L’s

[green wedge]

they're best utilised within your peripheral vision

[grave sparrow]

Mortarion deserves the L's

[jade holly]

From not even being the best DG (Typhus diff) to being insulted on a level even more than Fulgrim from Rylanor

[green loom]

Judge zealot really is the best

I think he's like

[green wedge]

was about to bring that up lol, same concept haha

[green loom]

The only actual team player

[high musk]

I hope they don't make Perturabo a Daemon Prince.

[green loom]

He already is lol

[green wedge]

yeah I would probably prefer something more akin to the theory of him having made himself into some kind of dreadnought

[grave sparrow]

It'd be a lot more fun if he found a non-psyker way to harness the warp for his benefit

[jade holly]

I think all the traitor primarchs are daemon princes now

[high musk]

Supposedly.

[green wedge]

Omegon?

[green loom]

Save for the dead/missing ones

[green wedge]

yeye

[high musk]

But there's never been a Perty Daemon Prince model or description. Least I think there hasn't been.

It's at the end or after the Iron Cage when Perty supposedly is to become one.

[green loom]

Yes there was

[storm jungle]

Perturabo is confirmed to be a daemon prince

[green wedge]

but theres been rumblings about perturabo getting the retcon

[high musk]

Boo

[green wedge]

oh?

[green loom]

Iirc he's described as a giant obliterator

He butchers some imperial fists

[high musk]

Based.

[storm jungle]

he just doesnt have a model because his faction is not a main group for one of the gods

[grave sparrow]

is peterturbo chaos united then or vashtorr or whatever his name is?

[storm jungle]

its why World Eaters, Thousand Sons and Death Guard ALL got their own ranges

[green wedge]

but it was so laaaaame lol

[green loom]

He's undivided yeah

[storm jungle]

Fulgrim will also be getting his soon

[high musk]

Based.

[storm jungle]

basically if you are a money maker you get your on mini line

if not tough shit

[green loom]

Wolves will prob get leman before long

[storm jungle]

^

[green loom]

Bangels will prolly get a new Sanguinor

[storm jungle]

We will get Fulgrim + his model line then another stupid loyalist primarch returning

[high musk]

Iron Hands will be ignored for another decade.

[storm jungle]

thank god

fuck em

[high musk]

Just rude.

They're lovely, emotionless people.

[green wedge]

absolutely

[grave sparrow]

I feel like if they bring all the primarchs back then whatever happens next will be the finale of 40k lol

[high musk]

It'll suck for the Xenos.

[green loom]

Nah

[green wedge]

its kind of a shame Ferrus' characterization in the novels he actually managed to appear in was so much "horus lite"

"we have Horus Lupercal at home"

[arctic talon]

After that we won't get any more primarchs

[high musk]

Ferrus gets butchered in any novel or novella he's added to.

[green loom]

40k is too much for the primarchs' to solve

[storm jungle]

because hes not interesting

[high musk]

His Primarch Novel was a travesty.

[storm jungle]

neither is his legion

[high musk]

Doesn't appear for the first hundred or so pages.

[grave sparrow]

they really made him seem like an idiot in Fulgrim

[green loom]

At most we'll get some stories with them, but as you can see with Guilliman

[high musk]

Doesn't really command well.

[green wedge]

Fulgrim got more out of it

[green loom]

They ultimately have no real effect on the story at large beyond introducing plot points

[high musk]

Ends up blowing up the planet Big E said, hey I need this one intact.

[storm jungle]

also 💰

[green loom]

Like

If you bring back the primarchs'

[high musk]

Ferrus' novel was more about a Based Emperor's Child anyway.

[green loom]

You'll just have an easier time making a giga stalemate

Ensuring sales

[green wedge]

All of the interesting stories are in the past in 40k because the setting can only move excruciatingly slowly

[high musk]

Primarch returns will get things slightly better for the Imperium.

[grave sparrow]

Primarchs are back! Great Crusade electric boogalo part 2!

[storm jungle]

Pre-Rift era is best 40k

[high musk]

Especially since the Lion sounds incredibly chilled out with age.

[storm jungle]

I mean no

they all hate what the Imperium has become

its a fascist nazi-rome shithole

Actually nvm it was like that in 30k too

[high musk]

Least compared to his 30k self.

[storm jungle]

now its just more catholic

[green loom]

Like ultramar, but kinda worse I guess

[green wedge]

It was always rome with nazis

now its just rome with nazis but on fire

[high musk]

Only Primarch who'd consider just walking away would be the Khan, since he disliked the Imperium upon arrival/discovery.

[grave sparrow]

and the spanish inquistion!

[high musk]

They also butchered Vulkan becoming the Perpetual Downer.

Hey Vulkan wanna see some of the Salamanders who've come to assist?

Nah I'd just depress them.

[storm jungle]

The Primarchs have genuinely ruined this setting

so i cant wait for more to arrive

[high musk]

Based take.

[green loom]

The best stories have no primarchs'

Don't let r/40klore hear that though

[high musk]

I am half expecting Curze to come back from the dead.

[green wedge]

The best fucking stories in 40k are 40k crime and like gaunts ghosts and the cain series

[high musk]

Could be interesting how they do it.

[green wedge]

seriously

[green loom]

They'll feel invalidated after making their 25th post about a primarch's favourite underwear today

[high musk]

But I swear to God, if they make him a Chaos idiot I'll not be happy.

[green loom]

He doesn't need chaos, he's perfectly insane as is

[high musk]

Exactly ❤️

Perfect the way he is.

[green wedge]

like a detective story where it starts with a random seeming murder and ends with a regular guy being mauled to death by a genestealer cult has potential for being genuinely unsettling

[grave sparrow]

Oh man I pissed off so many sanguinious fanboys by telling them their favorite primarch was written by an author at the request of their 10 year old son lol

[high musk]

Even if he was talking to flesh statues.

[green loom]

"Oh yay I get to visit the servitor factory!!!"
"-Magos Calmen, what the fuck?"

[storm jungle]

have you listened to Watcher in the Rain

[warm notch]

Wait really

That’s awesome

[high musk]

Think the last 40k novel I listened to was either Twice Dead King or Krieg.

[warm notch]

Do the warhammer crime stories ever become like really mundane

I like mundanity in high concept settings

[storm jungle]

Sometimes yep

[high musk]

I'm still miffed we don't have Audio Dramas anymore.

[storm jungle]

We do

its just a bit more rare

[grave sparrow]

well no, but it feels that way.

Make him the best fighter, super nice, has angel wings, and is a vampire, but vampires are bad so he has to hide it lol

[storm jungle]

because they take some more production time

[high musk]

Still waiting on the third Harlequin Audio Drama.

[storm jungle]

oof

hitting me where it hurts

💀

[high musk]

We rarely if ever get to see stuff with Spirit stuff for Eldar.

And a Spirit Seer would be based.

[storm jungle]

Xenos barely get content as it is

[warm notch]

That’s awesome

[high musk]

I would like more Flayed Ones as they're adorable.

[storm jungle]

"Hey guys what Ork books can I read?"

Me:

"You get 3 options"

[warm notch]

Is “Xenos” more like a slur or is it actually what they call aliens lol

[storm jungle]

Xeno/Xenos means "stranger" in latin

[high musk]

The Ork audio dramas were nice.

[warm notch]

Or both

[storm jungle]

so its just 40k's slang for alien

[green loom]

It's the Latin word for foreigner/alien basically

[storm jungle]

^

[high musk]

Red Grot Rebellion.

[warm notch]

Mm okay

[storm jungle]

but humans in 40k do use it in a slur fashion

[green loom]

Keep in mind "alien" itself basically just means unknown

[storm jungle]

"FILTHY XENOS" etc

[high musk]

Getting a Stompa working.

[warm notch]

Gotcha

[storm jungle]

yeee

[warm notch]

I love fictional slurs

[high musk]

Everyone insults everyone.

[green loom]

It's used in the same way as like

Mutant for abhumans

[high musk]

To the Necrons everyone's a primitive or unclean.

[warm notch]

Abhumans technically aren’t mutants are they

[high musk]

Eldar everyone is a Monkeigh.

[warm notch]

They’re just different species of human

[green loom]

No they're more like aberrant evolutions

[storm jungle]

Yep abhumans as in the name are humans

[green loom]

But their origin is human

[warm notch]

So they can be seen as sanctioned mutants

[storm jungle]

Its basically uh

[green loom]

So since they're different

They're filthy mutants

[storm jungle]

a more PG-13/kid-friendly version of "sub-human"

lol

[green loom]

Because they blaspheme on the holy human form

[storm jungle]

because you cant really use a word like that 💀

[warm notch]

How can anyone be mad at Ogryns

🥺

[green loom]

Prejudice can do wonders

[warm notch]

I’m sure Big E created them in His image as well

[high musk]

Have they changed Ogryn lore to make them smarter than before?

[green loom]

Not really

[warm notch]

One of the Ogryn personalities are boneheads

[normal light]

Church can make people do bad things

[green loom]

The bone ead is the dumbest personality lol

[warm notch]

But they headcanon the other personalities as boneheads as well too

[high musk]

As my favourite Ogryn is the one who is a bodyguard.

Pulled a Chimera out of a ditch to get the medkit.

Because it was inside the Chimera.

Nork I think his name was.

[storm jungle]

Ogryns are dumb because they are taugth to not think and not get taught anything.

Their stupidity is not too much of an effect from their gigantism and the Ghazgkhull book has shown ogryn can be as smart or even higher than normal humans with enough education.

They are just kept stupid because they are easier to manipulate that way.

[green loom]

Bully is probably the smartest

Like their brains are still human brains

[warm notch]

I thought it was more of a eugenics approach that they’re stupid lmao

[green loom]

But they're effectively neglected 5 year olds

[storm jungle]

Its a mix of both but they can learn and be educated

[warm notch]

Tho it’d make more sense that they’re just child soldiers

[storm jungle]

they are more like kids as Ederius said

[high musk]

I think that they had to lie to Ogryns in the Heresy.

So Traitor Imperial Army ones wouldn't really question it.

[urban spire]

it can't be eugenics because eugenics doesn't work

[storm jungle]

It starts off that way but chaos ogryns can fully eventually embrace chaos.

[warm notch]

True

[green loom]

The Imperial Cult dictates their role is to be muscle, so them being intelligent is directly against their allotted purpose

[storm jungle]

^

[warm notch]

So the Ogryn Psyker can be seen as just being above intelligent

[storm jungle]

the church fully encourages you to not be smart and be ignorant

[green loom]

Not even smarter than average

She just actually got taught something

[high musk]

Kriegers have a similar thing.

[urban spire]

intelligence is the mask of the traitor

[high musk]

Thinking men got Krieg into how shit it is.

Don't be like them.

[warm notch]

Lmao

[green loom]

Blessed is the mind too small for doubt

[urban spire]

really if you want to see some batshit imperial creed quotes just mash space in the loading screens

[warm notch]

The wiki gives me the impression that Ogryn are naturally dumb like that so it’s kinda good that they changed it

[high musk]

I follow them all.

[warm notch]

Or are gradually changing it

[high musk]

As the Emperor would expect.

[storm jungle]

the wiki is outdated as fuck

[green loom]

A suspicious mind is a healthy mind

[warm notch]

Because it’s supremely on the nose that Ogryn are neglected child soldiers

I love that

[normal light]

To doubt is to question authority

[warm notch]

It’s so unsubtle

[green loom]

Happiness is the delusion of the weak

[high musk]

Ogryns were really stupid.

[urban spire]

an open mind is like a fortress with its bolts thrown and its gates left open

[warm notch]

And it’s funny because the Imperium would be more cohesive if their populace were more educated

[high musk]

Like if left alone become completely feral and mindless.

[normal light]

Nah uh

[warm notch]

But, then again, they’d have people questioning the system

And we can’t have that nuh uh

[green loom]

Yep

[high musk]

How they survived to be found, who knows.

[storm jungle]

Its a play on the medieval time era europe where you keep your population stupid and thus easier to manippulate.

[normal light]

More smart people = more food for daemons

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/will-smith-tommy-lee-jones-smart-dumb-panic-gif-20007208

[warm notch]

“More smart”

Lol

[storm jungle]

you say that like

[normal light]

[storm jungle]

smart people dont fall to chaos

aka the entire imperium nobility

and inquisitors

and rogue traders

and so many other educated people like priests

💀

[warm notch]

I guess the best resource then is from the books and lore material themselves

[normal light]

Like yeah they have even greater chances

[storm jungle]

Lexicanum.

[warm notch]

I really should start reading stuff

[storm jungle]

use that

[urban spire]

point of order: there is very little intelligence to be found in the nobility of the imperium

[high musk]

Inquisitors are fascinating.

[warm notch]

Ty

[high musk]

Personal favourite are those who follow the belief the Emperor planned everything.

[green loom]

Yeah when you've been taught enough to have some ability to think, you generally think the Big evil death gods are kinda bad
But you're also probably living a life comfy enough that their temptations mean little

[warm notch]

You mean to tell me that nobility are just people who were born fortunate and not that they were able to get their position from hard work

[storm jungle]

If you want UP TO DATE stuff use Lexicanum.

If you don't wanna buy codexes read the wikipedia, because everything on there is copy pasted from those books

its a GREAT way to save money

most people dont know this

[warm notch]

Gotcha

[storm jungle]

Yep

[green loom]

Yeah because they don't cite properly so it's a guessing game if what you're reading is from Codex spade marines 8th Ed or a Warcom articles from 2001

[warm notch]

Man the Imperium is like

So horrible it’s comical

[urban spire]

i've never bought a single codex and i know an embarrassing amount about 40k

[green loom]

That's the idea

[warm notch]

It’s literally mustache-twirling levels of horrible

And I love it

[green loom]

I've read a total of three(3) books and know more than probably most of Grimdank combined

[urban spire]

i'm working my way through the gaunt novels right now

read the cains a long time ago

[storm jungle]

good stuff

[warm notch]

No no no you don’t get it

[green loom]

I started them but can't afford audible so rip

[warm notch]

The Imperium is based

THEYRE BASED THEYRE BASED

(Coping)

[urban spire]

based on what

[green loom]

You're right I must listen to "Byzantine Basileus" and support the imperials, because the Tau are filthy fascists and not human

[warm notch]

Do you think that there are furries in the 41st Millenium

As in

Humans who are into the furry abhumans

[storm jungle]

Possibly 💀

[jade holly]

This is a Deja vu moment

I swear I’ve seen this convo before

[warm notch]

All roads lead to chuds

[urban spire]

you don't have to look to scifi to find humans who are into furries

j/s

[warm notch]

Haha yeah

sweats nervously

[urban spire]

well

it's moral

[warm notch]

Does the Imperium of Mankind have a national anthem

And how cringey is it if you put it on a speaker and bass boost it

[urban spire]

not really, it's way too big

[warm notch]

Huh yeah

It’d definitely vary from planet to planet

[urban spire]

the imperium isn't a nation, it's an empire

and a galaxy wide one at that

[warm notch]

Does it have an empire-wide anthem 🤷‍♂️

[urban spire]

not that everyone would know, no

[jade holly]

Does it need one?

[urban spire]

at least i've never heard of that

[warm notch]

The zealots speak of singing specific hymns lol

So I was wondering if there was an anthem specific to the Imperium

And the savant “um ackshuallys” into asking what key the group would sing in

Like they’d have perfect pitch

The fucker

Savant is such a nerd

[jade holly]

Well, as his name implies

He’s a Savant

[green loom]

It's probably, at most, sectorial

Like we're in the

[urban spire]

sacant

[green loom]

Moebian domain

[warm notch]

sacant

[green loom]

Which may have it's own like hymn

[jade holly]

As if you haven’t misspelled anything before

[urban spire]

sac ant

[jade holly]

Yeah yeah whatever

[urban spire]

❤️

[jade holly]

So anyways

[green loom]

We know the Tanith have their own battle hymns

[warm notch]

I know people in my choir who have perfect pitch and they say it’s a nightmare to live with

[urban spire]

had

[green loom]

And I figure that's true for most planets

[warm notch]

Because they filter every noise they hear based on pitch or something

And if it doesn’t sound pleasant it bothers them

[green loom]

To me this translates to

[jade holly]

Sucks to be them I guess

[urban spire]

imagine being bothered by unpleasant sounds

[green loom]

Doing greyscale shading

And judging only by values

[warm notch]

Savant asking what key the hymn they’ll sing implies they carry a tuning whistle with them at all times or they’re perfect pitch

Which I find amusing

They’re still a fucking nerd

[urban spire]

do you need a tuning whistle for that?

[warm notch]

He’s asking for a specific key

I mean

[urban spire]

can't you just like
earball it?

[warm notch]

You don’t need one

You can

[urban spire]

i'm not a singer or music maker of any sort, i don't know anything

[warm notch]

In my choir even if we know a song forwards or backwards you still need a tuning whistle to make everyone on the same page

Otherwise everyone can mentally start on the wrong key

Anyways I headcanon savant bringing a whistle wherever they go because they’re a nerd

Or there’s a funnier possibility that they all rehearse outside of combat

[urban spire]

would love to hear the ogryns sing

[warm notch]

Which, you know, is within the realm of possibility if during services they sing

[urban spire]

imagine how deep they can go

[warm notch]

Very

[urban spire]

rattle your bones and deform your eyeballs

[green wedge]

Use a chorus of ogryn to create the brown note, counteracting noise marine weaponry and causing them to shit uncontrollably

[warm notch]

Lol

It’s within the realm of possibility

. . . I think 💀

[grave sparrow]

bet the ogryns can sing a mean sea shanty

[plush mason]

you know. i wonder if there are SM effigies in-universe, like little statuettes people carry

[knotty saffron]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPpA1H3S_tU

[storm jungle]

He didn't do a robotic voice-filter noooo

[jade holly]

Ok I think I found my new favorite legion

The Legion of the Damned

[spare osprey]

Not really a “legion” per say but it’s a good choice no less

[thick cedar]

I heard one of the reasons humans psykers are more at risk of Chaos or warp fuckery is because they draw too much warp while Eldar dont have that problem and can control how much they draw

[grave sparrow]

Makes sense considering the eldar were created to harness warp powers.

Probably helps to also be a ancient race that has had millions of years to understand the capabilities of the warp.

[urban spire]

yeah eldar were made to use the warp, humans came about the ability naturally

[ionic rapids]

Whats the most number of planets a single person has used Exterminatus on?

Hold on I did an English there

Who holds the record for most uses of Exterminatus? And what’s the number?

[celest dome]

Kryptman probably

[ionic rapids]

Well, in the game Chaos Gate Daemonhunter, my grey knight commander has issued Exterminatus twice in one year. How evil does that make me in the lore?

[celest dome]

Exterminatus a quite rare, so depend how justified either Exterminatus were

[ionic rapids]

Well it was in order to stop the spread of a Nurgle virus

Tho in one case I was too late and the damage had already been done, so the Exterminatus was sorta pointless, something I realized too late

I feel bad about that one

[celest dome]

Where the worlds lost causes ?

[ionic rapids]

Yea

Not only lost causes, but active threats to the rest of the system

[green loom]

Then it's whatever

Kryptmann's deal was destroying inhabited worlds in the path of the Tyranids to starve them out

Though you are also playing the imperial men in black so your moral integrity isn't really in question, you're mostly just evil

[urban spire]

men in unpainted armour

wait wyrdvane psykers have been around since 6th edition?

i thought they were a recent thing

[green loom]

Anyone else notice this

[queen laurel]

yeah Body guard says this alot but I don't have a clear memory on who big boss was

[green loom]

Prolly Rannick

[queen laurel]

Yeah but considering we have seen what happens with someone when they have a brain scarab on their head in pariah Nexus it's probably just the classic old rumor

Unless you know the necrons actually adjusted the scarabs to keep the sanity of the person

[green loom]

We see that Trazyn has functional servants

[queen laurel]

Yeah so the necrons can probably adjust the way the scarab treats your brain

[green loom]

Szeras in fairness may not be the most gentle

[queen laurel]

gentleness is definitely one of the things a cryptek will need to pick up in order to become better at their job but i think their way of applying said gentleness is not compliant with OSHA regulations

Considering the wacky experiments they probably run

[urban spire]

should i watch (?) pariah nexus

[green loom]

Looks like End Vol 2 is out

Eagerly awaiting the spoiler thread

[ionic rapids]

Noooooo, I’m good I swear 😭

[storm jungle]

are you subbed to WH+?

[near wasp]

Its just trayzen doing what he does. Dont worry about it.

[storm jungle]

Its also a big waste of time from a certain POV

it looks pretty, and thats about it

[queen laurel]

I mean yes it's good but it doesn't contribute that much to the warhammer setting

It's just there for a Side Story basically

[storm jungle]

Its more that its basically just people walking around and doing nothing

at least the necron scenes were good

Game of thrones had good dialogue

its not really a good example 💀

[inland sigil]

Watcher in the Rain is honestly one of the best 40k stories outta there.
It shows that the setting is so much better when its not just blunt bolterporn but even better when its character and world driven.
Its so fucking good,

No.

Audible.
Its a Audio play, so no narrating but all dialogue, sounds etc.
Its best being listented too.

I listened to it with me mum, she hates 40k but even she enjoyed it.

[green loom]

It's greatest worth is scenes of Kriegers being butchered

https://imgur.com/a/b6cpTx3

[inland sigil]

Its a psychological horror audiobook!

[storm jungle]

Honestly some of the best parts in the animation

Krieg fans malding is worth any pain i go through 😔

[queen laurel]

One of the greatest scientific minds in the Galaxy butchering an assassination because of his OCD

[verbal path]

The best part was learning even Necrons deal with micro managers while you work.

[queen laurel]

I mean OK smart ass why do you keep annoying your assassin

In the first place the sniper was doing his job well

[green loom]

Dramatic effect

[verbal path]

When you're almost done with your job and your boss rings you up

[green loom]

Also Szeras needs to constantly reinforce that he's better than others

Because like all necrons, he's deluded and vain

[urban spire]

don't know what that is so probably not

sorry, adhd, i asked a question, forgot i asked, and then decided to go for a nice long walk

[storm jungle]

Warhammer+ is the site where GW puts all those animations in

[urban spire]

ah

[storm jungle]

aka shittier Netflix

[urban spire]

impressive

[storm jungle]

ikr

[urban spire]

a recommendation from your mum is high praise i take it

[inland sigil]

She calls me a psycho because I am "into too much senseless slaughter"

[storm jungle]

LMAO

holy shit just like my parents

[urban spire]

she sounds alright

[storm jungle]

"these books/games will make you into a psychopath"

Me literally an introvert shut-in

[inland sigil]

That was after I uh...told her what I was reading and what it was about (Word bearers and Night Lords LMFAO)

[queen laurel]

I mean you did develop your barrel habit

[storm jungle]

true true

[queen laurel]

Yeah if you're talking about warhammer for your parents avoid those two specifically

[inland sigil]

I should tell her about the dark eldar

[queen laurel]

Because they are definition of slaughter

[inland sigil]

I mean she alr knows about chaos gods and wasnt happy

[storm jungle]

💀

[queen laurel]

Yeah so you want to add more to the slaughterhouse I suppose?

[normal light]

Who would be happy knowing about them?

[queen laurel]

Ain't you something

[inland sigil]

Me

[normal light]

?

Certified Chaos Follower?

[inland sigil]

I have a big ass Khorne mark on the back of my Fencing gear lol

[queen laurel]

you warp evolved lung cancer carrying crustacean of course she is

or he

[normal light]

Okay , the blood shall flow

[inland sigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1019010053853937745/1162514074341482637/rn_image_picker_lib_temp_001d6720-7173-41f2-a65d-e03230d2be60.jpg?ex=654eab99&is=653c3699&hm=a35128033a599377eaa20d2f55334c74141e41a8ce10c9fc93154504859205fa&

[normal light]

I shall grant you a gift of grand father Nurgle

[queen laurel]

nah

[normal light]

[normal light]

TAKE IT

[normal light]

EMBRACE IT

[queen laurel]

No

[normal light]

I shall acquire a 3D print of this little fella

[verbal path]

Do it

[normal light]

I maybe need to style my Chaos Space Marines like nurglites 🤔

Add some green

[warped briar]

would nurgle approve of da boyz

[urban spire]

i think nurgle would be very passive aggressive about da boyz since they don't like him back

[queen laurel]

Orks Will accidentally sometimes worship nurgle as one of the green gods and Nurgle is just pretty chill about it

[warped briar]

hmm good point, the only allegiance we have is for gork and mork

[urban spire]

that's very funny, i've never heard of this

[queen laurel]

If my degrading memory isn't failing me the orks came across a statue and thought it was either for gork or mork, it turns out it was a statue of nurgle

They decided to worship it

and nurgle was pretty confused but pretty happy to give them blessings of course

[urban spire]

ah, nurgle's blessings, there's that toxic love

[thick cedar]

Netted by silent trapper
Sudden Pox Burster
Pox Burster explodes on me
Pox Burster sets off nearby Red Barrel
Im on fire now and netted
Go down
Teammate comes and tries to revive me in fire
He goes down too
Second team mate comes
Almost makes same mistake

[warped briar]

truly llore

[warm notch]

What are the lore implications of this

[winged jacinth]

Influence of the chaos gods

[queen laurel]

In that particular day the chaos gods decided to do a little trolling

[warm notch]

What are the lore implications of having explosive barrels littered all over habs that the PCs come across

[winged jacinth]

They need to fuel all the ancient styled atvs

[storm jungle]

Netters are literally the loudest enemy in the game

how did you not hear one

[snow fern]

I think there’s some audio issues rn, I’ve dealt with some silent specials, the bad one tho is my audio falls apart, like fragmented as hell during a horde typically.

[storm jungle]

🤔

[green loom]

I might just be weird but I can hear specials even if they're super quiet lol

Except snipers

[storm jungle]

same so not sure

[thick cedar]

The implications is that I cant read and posted that in the wrong channel

[urban spire]

if there's too much noise going on, sounds sometimes don't play i believe

[thick cedar]

Theres a bug where they sometimes are just silent until theyre suddenly up on you. Isnt just me, other people have said the same

[storm jungle]

[thick cedar]

someone said it was a server issue but idk

[tough haven]

snipers have sound cues?

[green wedge]

yes

I dont really understand how people miss it lol

[tough haven]

Unless I am just dumb, I dont think I've ever heard it

[green wedge]

one time I soloed a chaos spawn (only on malice though) while being shot at by a sniper while my whole team insisted I was dead. Showed them 😄

[queen laurel]

Yeah it's incredibly loud charge up before shooting

Like it's the most recognizable of the sounds of the specials

[green wedge]

https://youtu.be/XoijlJBxZ3o?t=177

if you wait on that sound before you dodge snipers just... cant hit you

anyway sorry this be lore room lol

[queen laurel]

I've gotten used to the charge up sound that I instinctively dodge when i hear it

Even when it's not me getting shot

[tough haven]

Oh you meant the shot sound

[green wedge]

that charge sound should only be happening if you're the target

[tough haven]

I meant like a sound cue on spawning

[green wedge]

Oh no

no cue on spawn

I think thats the point lol

[tough haven]

Ok so I'm not crazy

[green wedge]

No xD

[queen laurel]

At least when I play shield i can draw its attention

So that's a bonus

[storm jungle]

They got that and the jingling of their dogtag trophies when they move, so yeah no spawn cue for sake of surprise since they die VERY easily

[green wedge]

Snipers have soft hands brother they've got soft hands.

[queen laurel]

You breathe on the sniper wrong they die

[storm jungle]

Literally lmao

[green wedge]

haha

[storm jungle]

They are the definition of a glass cannon special

[green wedge]

quoting a video not misgendering btw lol

[normal light]

I like running up to them in stealth and knifing them down

[queen laurel]

Yeah they may not be the toughest but they hit like a rocket propelled frate train

[green wedge]

Mostly they get me while Im having a bong lol 😛

be halfway into the rip like

https://tenor.com/view/headshot-red-dot-i-dont-care-sniped-just-sul-gif-13113511

and thats on me

[warped briar]

how power are the orks magic wise

[queen laurel]

Ork weirdboys have the easiest way to get a power boost

You just need more orks in the area and have them enjoy the fight

[warped briar]

i'm pretty much a noob when it comes to lore and the bigger the waaagh the more magic eh? my kinda boyz

[queen laurel]

Yeah the more intense the WAAAGH energy around the weird boy the more powerful they are but of course the excess energy can make them into a ticking time bomb

If they can't release the energy, their heads literally explode and the other orks nearby will also get caught in the crossfire

[warped briar]

would it vaporize them completely or will spores get released from the corpses

[queen laurel]

Only the heads explode

So the spores on the body probably survive

[warped briar]

hmm then a bigger waagh will come back as a result of a weirdboy self-destruction

[queen laurel]

If the imperium can get rid of the invaders they still need to use fire weapons to clear out the spores

Because killing an ork with something that doesn't incinerate the spores will make more of them

There have been cases where if an invasion has been stopped, the spores spawn new orks in the planet and decades after the attack

[warped briar]

that is what lorehammer told me, that and warp based fire being impossible to put out

[jade holly]

I just realized something

Wait nvm

I didn’t realize anything

[warped briar]

well what was your thought

[queen laurel]

Ork WAAAGH right now is currently limited because Orks are not in their A game

[warped briar]

they will get there eventually, da boyz will do it

[queen laurel]

Like they can make a poorly built-in gun work but not make rocks float and turn into lasers

[warped briar]

no connection to the warp be funny

[queen laurel]

For that to happen they need a lot of Orks and Krorks

[warped briar]

how would that even work if the krorks are the orks, unless there's some far off planet that the krorks didn't feel a need to evolve (devolve?)

[queen laurel]

Orks grow by fighting, the more Orks win battles the larger they get, the respect of other Orks becoming like a growth formula, orks are immortal and they will keep growing unless they are killed, bigger orks are also smarter

[warped briar]

oh yeah that's true

[queen laurel]

The beast being a semi-krork is incredibly intelligent and his Orks capable of speaking english perfectly

So an actual krork is a true powerhouse

[warped briar]

that's a scary image, hearing a green-skin yelling at your imperium comrades with slurs

[queen laurel]

Nah, they will just kill you

[warped briar]

making khorne proud in the process

[thick cedar]

I know psoikahs get cold when casting, but does the fire they generate make heat? LIke if a psyker was in a snowstorm could they make a small fire in their hands to warm themselves up? Also why is Psyker fire white in Darktide?

[celest dome]

It would probably cause more heat than lose it, so should be possible

[arctic talon]

A psykers fire is normally hot yes. the fire is blue/white because it isn’t normal fire it’s soul fire

[thick cedar]

SOIL FIRE

[celest dome]

As for why it's white, just to differenciate it from normak fire

[arctic talon]

Minor spelling error

It’s referred to as soul blaze/soul fire

In the talent trees

[thick cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

[arctic talon]

So I’d assume it’s literally immolating the enemies soul

Along with their flesh

[storm jungle]

in the game artwork you can also see the lightning psyker extract the essence of a traitor and use it to power up and cast his spell too

So uh hence the "soul" part

[urban spire]

that's the brain burst side of the tree

[storm jungle]

same thing

[celest dome]

Is it ?

[celest dome]

I though that was the Smite one

[storm jungle]

you are using your psychic powers and your soul/will-power for it so yes

[arctic talon]

Point being the Psyker is most likely burning a foes soul

With their funny fire

[storm jungle]

because as we know

fire hot

[urban spire]

just happened to have the game open

[arctic talon]

Also I’d assume psykers can change the color of their powers

[urban spire]

i just flew in from auric maelstrom and boy are my arms tired

[arctic talon]

Mostly since like

There’s variety to how psychic powers look

[urban spire]

alignment seems to have a great deal of influence on how powers look

undivided has the red purple, slaanesh the pink and purple, nurgle's mostly green

and sanctioned psykers lean blue

[arctic talon]

Tzeentch is whatever damn color it wants to be

[urban spire]

oh yeah idk how he slipped my mind

[arctic talon]

Most common being neon green, dark pink almost purple and like blue

[celest dome]

Some Imperial Psyker stuff is golden too

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[urban spire]

blue and pink for tzeentch, as per the horrors

[arctic talon]

Thousand sons def have some green going on

[urban spire]

but sorcerers of tzeentch can go in for the whole rainbow

[arctic talon]

Same with may the chaos gods forgive me for saying this tzaangors

[celest dome]

🤞 that we get to see all of that in tis game

[urban spire]

doubt we're gonna see slaanesh

[arctic talon]

I sorta hope the seer’s beloved is a lord of change

Lol

Or a herald of tzeentch

[urban spire]

love how the assail side of the tree has the gunker art, while being the side least likely to employ literally any weapon other than their blitz

[celest dome]

I hope it's baby Bel

[arctic talon]

Would also be fun

Only reason I’m assuming a tzeentch related daemon is because the seer has seen Tzeentch’s impossible fortress

[urban spire]

at this point all development other than balance changes has to stop

[celest dome]

That way you can have Chaos related things that make sense against a full Chaos tide

[urban spire]

...so they can focus on making the tech priest class

[celest dome]

Let's say at 100% focus it would take them 1 year to make the Tech archetype, I'd still rather see them do like 30% of them on it with the rest working on smaller things (And on things that they are able to work on, like map teams) and gett it somewhat later

[urban spire]

it wasn't an entirely sincere comment

[keen stratus]

man, psykers are so relatable, i also have voices hunting my head constantly, except that i dont have psychic powers for some reason

[celest dome]

Sadge, all of the problems, none of the benefits

[crisp heath]

That's because you're only level 1. Need to find a goblin cave and get to level 2.

[grave sparrow]

did you even WATCH goblin slayer!?

You don't go into the goblin caves

[warped briar]

you are better off fighting wolves, at least you won't get REDACTED

[crisp heath]

Goblin Slayer is a world populated entirely by people with skill issues

[warped briar]

except gobby slayer himself

[crisp heath]

Yeah

Not even the meme, that's the background for the show

Goblin Slayer is a D&D character played by an experienced player who made a busted character who never needs to roll because he always has an item or ability that automatically succeeds. The other main characters are new players, and the DM keeps trying to sabotage Goblin Slayer by making busted encounters with weak monsters because he breezes through the hard fights, meaning they need GS to protect them.

A world of skill issues

In other words, find a goblin cave, unless you suck

[warped briar]

hmm yes the plot convenience gang

[crisp heath]

why does everyone have a english accent

[warped briar]

well 40k is like space england

hooligan orks, chav eldar etc

[arctic talon]

game made by British people

[crisp heath]

ew

[plush mason]

after Thatcher closed the mines England's main export became edgy comic books

[arctic talon]

idk why you're suprised

lol

[crisp heath]

The Imperium just conquers things, makes terrible industrial towns/planets, eats powdered corpses, and you'll be dead by the time their healthcare system processes your request. It's literally just space England

[crisp heath]

im not

[arctic talon]

The sun never sets on the British empire because god does not trust them in the dark

[warped briar]

what would the warp be similar to if we follow the space england metaphor

[crisp heath]

France

[warped briar]

oh god

explains all of the chaos gods tbh

[plush mason]

that implies God is dump enough to trust them at all lol

[green wedge]

the sun doesnt set because it is obscured by the mountains of dead left in its wake

[normal light]

His stuff is probably already in British museum

[indigo fjord]

...What has more holes, swiss cheese or 40k lore?

[plush mason]

40k lore

[outer cobalt]

40k lore suffers from having way too many authors sadly

[green wedge]

Doing OK for a group that doesnt hire continuity tsars lol

[outer cobalt]

none of them have ever had a meeting about continuity in the lore

its like they hired a bunch of fan fic authors but theyre in charge of writing canon

[indigo fjord]

The benefit of 40k is that they usually never have stories in the same place

Then they'll throw like a callback to Cadia or something

Or at least they used to :i

But attempting to find like a definitive answer to how psykers work in 40k is impossible

[plush mason]

https://tenor.com/view/speechless-no-words-i-dont-know-what-to-say-biting-tongue-dont-want-to-say-it-gif-16985510

yeah

[arctic talon]

40K lore is cohesive within its own context of the story that you’re reading

It sort of

Doesn’t work great aside from that

[indigo fjord]

Dan Abnett thinks space marines can get killed by crossbows.

[plush mason]

and like. its still a developing story so new stuff has to be made for it still

[arctic talon]

There’s plenty of cohesive elements

Across the like

Many stories

Common things, threads, Ect.

But 40K lore suffers from too many authors and the fact GW pretty much never retcons stuff

[plush mason]

in a way its like the lex imperial, always having new stuff added but never getting the old stuff removed

[arctic talon]

The only things that have been completely retconned are like 3 books, and all of 1st and 2nd edition

Which is like

Barely anything lol

[outer cobalt]

they draw on energy from the warp with which they have a natural connection to, its almost biological in nature like a gene

[arctic talon]

Also yeah psykers have like

[indigo fjord]

Yeah but I'm a detail interested guy

[jade holly]

insert Midicholrians joke here

[arctic talon]

A consistent explanation for how they work

[arctic talon]

Well

It’s not hard magic

Explicitly

Warhammer fantasy’s winds of magic and age of sigmars magic is much more like

Actual hard magic

Ironic

[indigo fjord]

Yeah the lores of magic

[outer cobalt]

psykers are like a conduit for warp energy they simply manifest and direct it with more powerful psykers being able to do reality warping shit

[arctic talon]

Tbf weak psykers can cause minor reality warping

Like generating fire from nowhere

Psykers violate the laws of physics due to the warp allowing them to do so

[indigo fjord]

I think there's a speculation that all of the characters in the game are psykers to a degree

[outer cobalt]

psykers are weird

[indigo fjord]

Like being unnaturally lucky

[arctic talon]

They could also be protected

[plush mason]

think of psykers like divine spellcasters is how i explain it lol. more akin to a cleric than a wizard

[arctic talon]

By a psyker

Grendyl/Rannick could both be psykers

[indigo fjord]

Probably are, being inquisitors.

[arctic talon]

Or one of them is

The whole “I am a warrior” thing

Could have been something to bind the rejects to them

[plush mason]

well it was clearly part of an oath ceremony

[arctic talon]

Beyond just being an oath ceremony

Is my point rather

[jade holly]

More like a cult indoctrination

[outer cobalt]

psykic abilities sometimes manifest in surface level powers like mind reading and suggestion or dont manifest at all, a person can be a psyker and never know it or show any psykic aptitude

[jade holly]

[outer cobalt]

its a wide scale

[jade holly]

I am Alph- I mean a Warrior

[arctic talon]

Being Unnaturally lucky is a warp power

One that’s often subconscious

[indigo fjord]

Also some of the voicelines are talking mad heresy, stuff you won't get away with saying on an open channel :P

[plush mason]

i swear if you say that one more time i will open every exterior door on this ship and kill us all

[arctic talon]

The Loner tbh

[indigo fjord]

I play psyker loner, best one.

[arctic talon]

For just speaking what’s on their mind

[jade holly]

Blood for the Emperor, skulls for the Golden Throne

He a little confused but his heart’s in the right place

[arctic talon]

Also I’d assume the player characters are kept around

[outer cobalt]

psykers are walking a thin line

[arctic talon]

Because they’re useful lol

[indigo fjord]

When the psyker loner starts arguing with the subtitles lol

[arctic talon]

Nah the savant is fine

[jade holly]

Walking a thin line? They fucking pirouetted over it

[arctic talon]

The loner and seer would prolly be killed on the spot if they weren’t so useful

[plush mason]

Gryndal has to be a radical so they just flat out dont care so long as we get the job done

[arctic talon]

Also yeah grendyl is having us collect nurgle corrupted heretical books lol

[outer cobalt]

talking heresies on the Vox is crazy

[arctic talon]

It’s public to the inqusitorial war band

But not the rest of the planet

[jade holly]

Either to research the enemy or to pull some heresy to combat Heresy

[indigo fjord]

Grendyl probably just wants a pet daemonhost

Nothing wrong with that

[plush mason]

ngl they likely already have a few

[outer cobalt]

the inquistors listening to the psyker blaspheme the emperor for the 9th time this mission

[arctic talon]

I doubt the handlers care unless the PCs straight up say we’re going to kill everyone

[indigo fjord]

When one of the voiceline literally called the god-emperor a carrion

I was like "You're getting away with that?!"

[arctic talon]

All of the rejects fall into the

Useful enough to not kill catagory

[outer cobalt]

the inquisition is pretty lax as long as you dont outlive your usefulness

[jade holly]

Psykers are the worst thing known to the Warhammer lore

[arctic talon]

And thankfully for them grendyl’s warband is relatively radical

[jade holly]

Liberals

[arctic talon]

Also the Loner still calls the enemies heretics

[indigo fjord]

I wonder what kind of 'assignment' a lvl 30 psyker would have in the game

[arctic talon]

As much as they hate the imperium lol

[indigo fjord]

Epsilon?

[arctic talon]

Something below primaris class

Most likely

[grave sparrow]

aren't psykers the only reason the imperium can feasibly function

[plush mason]

Zola and Rannic listening to the loner and losse cannon badmouth the imperium for over 40 mins. "we really are scraping the bottom of the barrel arent we?"

[grave sparrow]

like, astropaths and navigators

[arctic talon]

Yes

[jade holly]

Well considering the Emperor is one and needs to be fed Psykers everyday

[arctic talon]

Navigators aren’t psykers technically

Either lol

[jade holly]

I’d call it a hard maybe

[grave sparrow]

I could've sworn navigators had psyker powers

[arctic talon]

Nah no psykers means no astropaths

[arctic talon]

They have their own powers

[outer cobalt]

Psykers have their uses in the imperium beyond being batteries

[arctic talon]

I.E opening their eye

[grave sparrow]

I mean, warp powers are close enough to pskyer powers lol

[plush mason]

they have a 3rd eye which is literally a small warp portal

[grave sparrow]

They'd be classified as pskyer mutants either way

[plush mason]

they can open it and drown any fool dumb enough to be looking at in the tides of the wrap itself

[arctic talon]

They’re classified as navigators 🤓

[indigo fjord]

I also don't think inquisitors refer to themselves as psykers? But merely state they have psychic powers

[arctic talon]

Very important distinction

[grave sparrow]

Damn you lol

[arctic talon]

Blanks can’t disable navigator powers

[outer cobalt]

theyre imperial sanctioned mutants

[jade holly]

Ngl

After playing melee Psyker

[grave sparrow]

I'm still like 90% certain most navigators have basic pskyer abilities lol

[jade holly]

Ogryn feels so boring

[plush mason]

ngl having a literal gateway to hell in the middle of your forehead sounds annoying

[arctic talon]

They explicitly do not lore wise

[grave sparrow]

they can sense auras and shit though

or at least some of them can

[arctic talon]

Again not the same way as psykers do

[indigo fjord]

They can probably see warp energy or stuff, I dk.

[arctic talon]

Because blanks do not effect navigators

[grave sparrow]

OOH, ok yeah that changes it then

[plush mason]

they can but only because of the 3r eye

[arctic talon]

The literal portal to hell in their third eye as nameless says is prolly why lol

[storm jungle]

Navigators can literally blow you up just by looking at you with their 3rd eye

https://tenor.com/view/dr-manhattan-gif-18899941

[jade holly]

Besides Admech, what other class could be added?

[grave sparrow]

why don't they just keep blanks around navigators at all times to prevent warp fuckery?

[jade holly]

cause ngl I’d like a Lex enforcer

[storm jungle]

because

Navigators are rich

and influential

[jade holly]

even tho Savant was one

[storm jungle]

also a lot more important than a blank

[plush mason]

deadass i love the navigator comp in roguetrader just because of that

its so great

[arctic talon]

Navigators also still feel miserable lol

around blanks

[outer cobalt]

thats everyone though

[plush mason]

just drown the fuckin g heretics in the warp

[arctic talon]

Blanks always give off that aura of disgust

[arctic talon]

yeah, but most navigators are rich

[plush mason]

they ether explode or get debuffed

[storm jungle]

yeah people got no idea how strong navigator are

both power and influence wise

[outer cobalt]

drowned in warp spaghetti

[storm jungle]

unless uh

you are from a shitty/nobody navigator house

lol

[arctic talon]

those usually get eaten up by other navigator houses

lol

[jade holly]

If we got an enforcer class, would it be called a Lex Enforcer or an Arbitrator?

[arctic talon]

Enforcer

[grave sparrow]

The navigator in The Outcast Dead killed like 4 augmented gangers in basically in instant lol

[storm jungle]

YUP

You do not fuck with navigators

[outer cobalt]

Navigators doing the God Emperors work

[arctic talon]

opens eye 12 people looking at you have a horrific seziure

[storm jungle]

they are like Psyker+

[plush mason]

yeah good luck getting to other worlds when the navigators hate your ass

[storm jungle]

like uh

[arctic talon]

I think its hilarious

that navigators conduct duels by just

[storm jungle]

one ability in rogue trader if you play a navigator

[arctic talon]

staring at each other

[storm jungle]

is literally opening your 3rd eye

staring at someone

[arctic talon]

and whoever has a seizure first loses

[storm jungle]

and making them melt

[plush mason]

the comp is great

[outer cobalt]

Navigator opening their third eye just to make you shit your pants

[grave sparrow]

in Rogal Dorn's primarch book I remember the navigator was seriously considering exposing his third eye to dorn because he just wanted to see his warp aura lol

[arctic talon]

LOL

prolly wouldn't kill Dorn

[grave sparrow]

and he was like "nah imma fuckin die if I do that"

[arctic talon]

but it would fucking suck

and it also would kill the navigator lol

[grave sparrow]

he was more concerned about getting instantly executed if he did

[arctic talon]

yeah

[plush mason]

i heard Dorn could like quite the warp is that true or just fannon?

[arctic talon]

tbf anyone infront of him

would die

[arctic talon]

The warp "stills" around him

[plush mason]

so like a blank in a way?

[arctic talon]

but he's not immune to psychic powers

no

more like a psyker forcing the warp to calm down

[grave sparrow]

He has like a pseudo blank aura lol

[arctic talon]

yeah

[grave sparrow]

dude's just so fuckin stoic

[arctic talon]

but like

[grave sparrow]

but angry

[arctic talon]

if you throw a fireball at him

its still gona fucking hurt him

its just gona hurt him less then it would

but lore wise pretty much nothing survives a navigators third eye staring at you lol

[grave sparrow]

he's more immune to probably like, telepathic probing and aura sense and shit

[plush mason]

im just imagining his soul in the warp just going "stfu" every now and then lol

[arctic talon]

if its alive it will die

violently

[jade holly]

“Can I fucking help you?”

[grave sparrow]

I still hope dorn comes back as the next primarch and is just fucked up

I don't want stoic dorn

I want unhinged dorn

[outer cobalt]

nothing can shake Dorns Will

[plush mason]

give us pissed off gangster Dorn