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barren ether
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Again plot armors a cop out because my point is you’re framing anyone and everyone as careless and pieces of shit, I bring up examples, and you say plot armor for why?

forest orbit
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Why are you being such an ass over this

forest orbit
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just accept that some characters got adamantine plot armor and some dont

forest orbit
viral halo
forest orbit
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LMFAO

barren ether
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No, I’m getting like this because she decides to say everyone treats everyone like pieces of meat, in the inquisition for example, I bring up example of inquisitors being actual decent people towards their retinue, and for some reason plot armor is a reason that’s brought up to invalidate my examples?

forest orbit
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No? Shes just giving a very valid example

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Inquisitors die all the time

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Eisenhorn and Ravenor cant

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because they got an entire fucking book series

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what Abnett has done instead is basically have them be ruined physically and mentally instead

barren ether
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No it’s the treatment of their retinue. No shit people die lmao

forest orbit
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I mean again same thing?

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Eisenhorn treats his guys pretty well before he starts going coocoo

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Ravenor is the same

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minus the mind-assault lol

barren ether
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That’s literally my point!

forest orbit
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Like whats so hard to get

barren ether
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That’s literally my example lmao wtf lmao

forest orbit
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some people treat their work partners like shit

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some dont

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tf is this nonsense

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lmfao

barren ether
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I’m not being an asshole I’m trying to bring up examples I’m so fucking confused

forest orbit
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man i give up

jade holly
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Oh yeah that’s right

forest orbit
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been here for like 3 minutes

jade holly
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The Imperium are cannibals

forest orbit
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im gonna follow D's example and go grab chips instead

broken zealot
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Given a quick tactical briefing on the new enemies how do you think a fully outfited Vermintide 2 crew would handle a Darktide mission ?

barren ether
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What the fuck lmao. I feel like none of you read anything I said and were like “he’s not getting it” when I was literally describing shit but alright goddamn. And I feel like I’m crazy now

thick cedar
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are you nerds still at it

warped briar
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well could the vermintide gang's armor survive lasguns and bolts

hasty coral
thick cedar
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I GOT THE PERFECT ANSWER FOR ALL OF THIS

crisp heath
hasty coral
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Bardin, magic users, and GK and SP would also do well

warped briar
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makes me thing the dreg snipers could just take em out no issue

thick cedar
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Darktide is a live service game and the dialogue to reflect our new position hasnt been added yet

crisp heath
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If its melee they would definetly be able to do it.

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But Dreg and Scab Shooters and Gunners? Doubt..

broken zealot
hasty coral
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Death magic has protective wards

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Could work

crisp heath
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I guess Kerillian can hugely benefit from stealth.

hasty coral
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Yeah those two would be tanky fuckers

crisp heath
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So shes out of eyeshot.

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90% of the time.

thick cedar
hasty coral
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Kerrilian has the least chance

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Mainly comes down to magic armor

crisp heath
broken zealot
crisp heath
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You ever seen mark of Chaos?

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And how a Single Wood Elf Ranger took out 20+ Chaos Warriors of Khorne with A bow and Dual Swords

hasty coral
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Which Bardin, Kruber, and Saltz have armor of

crisp heath
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Id say her being a Pointy Eared Wood Elf gives her a high chance of surviving.

hasty coral
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I meant durability wise

crisp heath
hasty coral
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Maybe her nature spells for healing

crisp heath
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Kill for Old Bloody Kruber.

hasty coral
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Obviously the magic ones

broken zealot
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Kerillian biggest danger would be getting murdered by the inquisition after

crisp heath
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So I dont think so :p

hasty coral
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So at most useful mutant

warped briar
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knife eared leaf lover? hmm

crisp heath
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Talabecland First.

hasty coral
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She wouldn’t immediately care for the eldar

broken zealot
crisp heath
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Though ngl.

warped briar
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not my fault i joined today

crisp heath
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I think the lad that has the most chance

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From Fantasy

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to Survive Darktide

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Stefan von Kessel.

hasty coral
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So she could be somewhat loyal enough for the inquisition

crisp heath
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Absolute Giga Chad of a Unit.

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Im not even gonna pretend I am not Biased towoards him.

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Cause Mark of Chaos was my first Warhammer game.

warped briar
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man who fights with his men huh? chad indeed

crisp heath
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He was Born with a Mark of Chaos

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On his face lol

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Got shafted permanently by anyone outranking him and doubted by everyone

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And ended up being the biggest hero to come out of Ostermark becoming its Elector Count.

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Happend 300 Years before Franz was born btw.

warped briar
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man i would give that poor dude a hug

broken zealot
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That's awesome

crisp heath
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Lets not forget.

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He goes toe to toe

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With Aspiring Champions

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and Exalted Heroes of Khorne

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and Wins.

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Cause hes that good of a fighter.

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His family stripped of their titles and wealth, Stefan made a life for himself in the Empire's army. He was determined to prove his loyalty to the Empire, and had a fiery dedication to Sigmar. He loathed Chaos in all of its guises and was vehement that the Empire would be victorious against the warbands invading from the North. He was an educated man, and a veteran of the Great War Against Chaos, with a confidence and tone of command honed on bloody battlefields across the Empire.

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Id say the Imperium would welcome him with open arms.

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Especially in current timeline.

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Cause rn the Imperium needs everyone they can get.

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Also Stefan killed an Exalted Daemonlord of Chaos... in a 1 on 1.

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Or well "Daemon Prince"

sleek wigeon
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tbh I'm thinking the imperium is gonna be fine
roboute is getting all the boys back together (we got the Lion most recently, willing to bet Leman and Khan aren't far behind)

crisp heath
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I never much cared for the Space marines tbh.

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And the ones I personally like and paint are super obscure.

sleek wigeon
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same
I'm more admech

crisp heath
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White Panthers and Star Phantoms. ❤️

sleek wigeon
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although I love the Iron Hands to death.
I just wish Ferrus didn't get wasted so fast

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legit the beef between him and Fulgrim should have been more fleshed out instead of ending then and there :(

crisp heath
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Tbh

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The reason im an utter nutter for the guard.

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Back when Winter Assault Released.

sleek wigeon
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dawn of war?
based

crisp heath
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My dad used to play Space Marines (Imperial Fists) and I used to play Guard.

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And in Winter assault.

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Guard got a Morale bonus for fighting alongside marines.

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I think 50 or 100 points.

sleek wigeon
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yep

crisp heath
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Then DOW II came out and I played that to bits with my dad.

fresh timber
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question: if the emperor is a perpatual, wouldnt his death be very temporary ?

sleek wigeon
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guard in winter assault were damn fun
especially with all the diff units you could attach to the squads
the terror of the AI hitting you with 10 "WITNESS YOUR DOOOOOM!"s at the same time on high difficulty D:

crisp heath
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Thanks to Winter Assault

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I got given my first box of the Old kasrkin models.

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for Tabletop

crisp heath
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Since then I refuse to aknowledge that Tempestus Scions exist.

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and I refuse to buy the new Kasrkinmodels.

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Yes I am biased how could you tell?

sleek wigeon
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astonomicon might be down forever if emps goes out once though, idk how it works

crisp heath
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I honestly believe.

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With how many TRILLIONS of people pray to him and believe in him.

fresh timber
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Its held by his psychic might at the location of his body and mind, i dont think itd go out

crisp heath
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If he dies he just gets birthed back into existance.

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Chaos god of Order, Zeal, Purity and Faith

fresh timber
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iirc the inquisition knows this too but arent 100% sure about what would happen, so they dont let him kick the ceremite bucket

sleek wigeon
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so it's possibly like the orks and yarrik? where they believe in him so hard they will him to keep living

crisp heath
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Didnt Angron kill Yarrick?

sleek wigeon
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angron being a little shit :(

jade holly
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Yeah Yarrick’s fucking dead

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Ghazghkull better avenge Yarrick

crisp heath
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Angron
kills Yarrick
Orks And we'ze took dat bloody personal

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lets krump dem spikey gitz.

fresh timber
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Angron is gonna get his next great assault held up by some pissed off brussel sprouts lookin for payback

sleek wigeon
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bruh it's going to be like a fucking royal rumble match when ghaz and the boys find angron

crisp heath
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Orks are evolving forwards.

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They are starting to re-gain their long lost intellect.

crisp heath
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Ghaz vs Angron

jade holly
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Angron sees Orks “who tf are you all”

“You killed our greatest rival”

“… do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?”

sleek wigeon
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I hope not
imagine if we ever got a tag team of yarrik and marbo

fresh timber
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lol "Your greatest rival? The emperor?"
"No ya git, not 'im!"
"... Robot faultyman? I havnt touched him either"
"RAAaaah NO. Da short one wiv da powah claw"
"........ The baseline? Hold up, am i being pranked. Whers the camera"
"WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH"
"Hahahahah OHSHITWOWWAITASEC"-ceaseless undending stabbing sounds-

sleek wigeon
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"It's Always Sunny on Armageddon, S2 E14: Angron Gets Jumped"

fresh timber
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angron on the way to his flag ship

sleek wigeon
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Ghaz pays Snickrot to get him like that

spare osprey
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He just sorta died

plush mason
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didnt GW discontinue the steal legion?

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at least in their metal forms

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them killing off Yarrick was likely part of that

storm jungle
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Yarrick is deffo getting a new model

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same with the Steel Legion very likely

thick cedar
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What if theres a demon that keeps whispering in your ear about how theyve been trying to reach you about your Servo Skulls extended Warranty

crisp heath
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Hey if we have any folks here who know Tau stuff

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I know castes "intermingling" is extremely forbidden, but are auxiliaries allowed to have interspecies relationships?

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I guess this goes double for the Enclaves since every caste gets their own planet but auxiliaries have to share one

storm jungle
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We literally got no idea.

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Tau auxillary already barely get any lore.

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For Tau romance is also not really a thing, its more seen as a task to be done and over with.

crisp heath
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Boring

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I need the Canon kroot smut

storm jungle
safe vigil
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I do remmeber a very early story

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where it was said that the Human Auxillaries, when they are killed are fed to the kroot

thick cedar
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They should add anurgle stealth unit

The Stinky Strangler

arctic talon
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that die

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no one in the tau empire is off the table except for Tau for Tau aligned kroot

spring belfry
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dumb question but i figure ill entertain you guys

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are there any instances of a guardsman becoming a marine?

safe vigil
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no

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or atleast not that I'm aware of

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In theory

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You could have a child soldier in the Guard. Cadian's have their Whiteshields I believe

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whom somehow proves themselves enough for the trails, but marines prefer to recruit from feral and hive worlds because the natural conditions create sturdy neophytes

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They could, become a 'demi-marine'

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in the Horus Heresy there are adult humans who are given the space marine treatment, becoming almost marines

spring belfry
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thats what im looking for

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the treatment, not so much belonging to a chapter or anything

safe vigil
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but that is the only time i've seen or heard it done. It may be lost technology

spring belfry
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the whole upgrade process, i have to read up on it again but like the surgeries and stuff.

safe vigil
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Luthor of the Dark Angels for example

arctic talon
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Dark angels had a ton of them

spring belfry
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that sounds super cool lol

crisp heath
arctic talon
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The main armory manager on board their Gloriana who I forgot the name of was a mortal woman who used to be part of the order

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I forgot her name tho lol

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But Demi-astartes treatment works on men and women irregardless of age

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Since some were old as shit

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When they got ascended

fresh timber
safe vigil
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I do think its worth mentioning that 40k was a sandbox for the longest time. You could say in some distant corner of the galaxy they still have this process, but you then have to consider all of the rammifications of such a thing

arctic talon
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Tbf it’s still a sandbox

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It wasn’t practiced commonly lore wise bcs it wasn’t efficient

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But I don’t believe the technology to do so is lost

safe vigil
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Aye. Theres certainly an orthodoxy

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I only say its lost because ive only seen them in the horus heresy

arctic talon
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True

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I just assume it’s too expensive

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It was only offered to the friends/retainers of the primarchs

safe vigil
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the church would surely make use of it

arctic talon
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If the primarchs requested it

arctic talon
safe vigil
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give me sister of battle beefcakes god-damnit

arctic talon
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They could just not know about it

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Since some of the Demi astartes are still alive

arctic talon
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Lol

desert dust
arctic talon
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But I do think that GW is gona start killing off the dark angel’s Demi-astartes

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They have the most by far

desert dust
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What's the demi astartes they new or something?

arctic talon
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Luther, that one word bearer guy

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Who was lorgar’s adoptive father

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And a bunch of other dark angel ones

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That get mentioned for like one line lol

desert dust
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Ah the ones who get like 4 organs instead of 20

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Because they old as hell

arctic talon
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Yeah the weird halfway process we have no clue how works

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It also works on women unlike the full process

desert dust
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Yeah they don't get that immortality

arctic talon
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Yeah

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The question is what process of the astartes creation process

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Makes it stop working on women in canon

safe vigil
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well Luthors still kicking around isnt he?

arctic talon
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Yeah

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But he was in stasis

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For a long ass time

desert dust
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Tbh it's probably just a waste of time putting it in women and old men unless they are extremely important for some reason but I feel like they would be better with brain augments

arctic talon
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It is a waste tbf

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But it was a sentimental thing

desert dust
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Keep Korr pharon alive to get stomped on by g man

arctic talon
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Lol

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I just realized

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They’re gona have all the dark angel demi-astartes die fighting Luther lol

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Aren’t they

crisp heath
hasty coral
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Oh well

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I guess he might react badly is he found out Horus would fall to chaos

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Mainly I think not talking about chaos was a major problem

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Like it’s pretty easy to convince people the chaos gods are BAD SHIT

jade holly
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I would tell him that despite resenting being worshipped as a god, to go along with it and use it as a way to shape laws into the Imperium to bring about a more bountiful empire

hasty coral
jade holly
hasty coral
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But decided he wanted science to prevail anyway

jade holly
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and what Big E did to him

crisp heath
hasty coral
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And it’s more that

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Divinity doesn’t exist

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But powers like a divinity

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Do

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Let’s be real

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Psychic powers are the only true strongest power in 40k

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That’s where humans dominance needed to come from

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But again

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That itself is a science

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Chaos was way too intrinsic to the universe to ignore

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And hope nothing went wrong

crisp heath
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After all the leader of the Emps childre was already walking with a pink vibrating sword.

hasty coral
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You cannot just ignore the facts you don’t like

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Or think are harmful

hasty coral
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Fuck all of that

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I wouldn’t fuck with Slaneesh

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Literally like the worst one to follow

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Easily

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Nurgle
Tzeentch
Khrone
Slaanesh

crisp heath
hasty coral
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I would join Nurgle because well, by some moral standard he could be deemed neutral, a fucked up one but on nonetheless

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That all life is equal

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And more life is better

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It’s insanity

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But

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It’s better than the others

crisp heath
hasty coral
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Maybe Tzeentch is close

hasty coral
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You always end up paying a much worse price

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In the end

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I mean you could say all of them do

crisp heath
hasty coral
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To be fair

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Alinity isn’t a bad person for the cat thing

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At most that was mean

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I would never handle my cat roughly

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But they aren’t THAT fragile

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She is a bad person for everything else

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Like she put the cat over her chair feet first, lil dude was fine

arctic talon
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Average slaanesh cultist chosen for a sacrifice

hasty coral
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The vodka incident though?

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That is fucked

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Alcohol to an ANIMAL?

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That’s so fucking degen

crisp heath
hasty coral
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And I mean THAT isn’t bad in itself

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But if you fail them

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Woof

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Not good

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Actually what are the chaos gods genders?

crisp heath
arctic talon
hasty coral
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That’s what I assumed

arctic talon
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They don’t have any

hasty coral
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Although obviously 3 are male coded

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And 1 is mainly female coded

arctic talon
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Most common are masculine for khorne, masculine for tzeentch, nurgle and slaanesh both get referred to as either male or female semi often

hasty coral
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Really nurgle?

arctic talon
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Yeah

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Mostly in fantasy tho

hasty coral
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Female Mother Nature?

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Probably

arctic talon
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In 40K lorgar’s homeworld nurgle was a worshiped as a goddess

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Same with tzeentch

hasty coral
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See that’s my thing

arctic talon
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Khorne and slaanesh both masculine

hasty coral
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It’s so hard to just call the chaos gods evil to me personally

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Because the warp WAS neutral

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Fucking Necrons

arctic talon
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Again the chaos gods gender is whatever their worshiper states it is

hasty coral
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And old ones to an extent

arctic talon
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They’ll take that form most likely

hasty coral
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Literally ruined everything

arctic talon
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Necrons started it regarding the warp turning into a shithole

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The war in heaven just

crisp heath
arctic talon
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Made it way worse

arctic talon
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Like

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There’s a reason the old ones didn’t give them immortality lol

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Or teach them how

hasty coral
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But that’s still a shitty thing to do

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Maybe it would have still ended the same

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Honestly probably would have

arctic talon
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Lol

hasty coral
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But that still doesn’t excuse the tradegy

arctic talon
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The Necrons were racial supremacists

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And practiced slavery

crisp heath
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I still think this guy would be a better choice leading the Indominus crusade I mean Girlyman semes like a guy with a lot good ideas but no real plan on how to carry themn out ....this guy on the other hand has face corruption several times and proved himself incorruptable.

hasty coral
arctic talon
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Like I’d say the old ones were justified in telling them to piss off

hasty coral
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See

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Krorks

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Say what you want

arctic talon
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Again that wouldn’t have happened without the war in heaven

hasty coral
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They were not exactly FREE creatures

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Except on slaughter

arctic talon
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They aren’t

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The Krorks were a weapon

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Like

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The old ones wouldn’t have done that if the Necrontyr didn’t you know

hasty coral
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It certainly is the Necrons fault

arctic talon
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Decide to do the thing

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Not saying the old ones are blameless

hasty coral
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But they weren’t dealt even just a shitty hand

arctic talon
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They aren’t

hasty coral
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They were dealt one of the worst hands possible

arctic talon
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And how many species before them went extinct is what I’d assume the old ones logic was

hasty coral
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Short lives full of pain

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And cancer

arctic talon
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They’re just another species to die

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In a universe’s lifetime

hasty coral
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They deserved each other in my book

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The universe just didn’t deserve them

arctic talon
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Ironic that the Old Ones created/ascended 3 species

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And all 3 are still around now

crisp heath
arctic talon
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Though I suppose the Krorks de-evolved

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The Jokaero and Eldar are still around

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And Orks are the descendents of the krork

crisp heath
arctic talon
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My point is that they’re still alive

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In one form or another lol

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Not that they were a positive impact on the galaxy lol

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Because the Fall of the eldar empire and the orks are both pretty big issues

crisp heath
# arctic talon Not that they were a positive impact on the galaxy lol

Only the Jokareo ofc that depends on who gets their hands on the mini death star or gaaxy ending nuke they build and who it is used on As for the other two ..I doubt rampaging throughh the gaxay as war hungry frat boys or IDK LITERALLY F&*^king a Chjaos god into existance is a "Positve" impact.

arctic talon
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My point was that they were alive lol

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You’re trying to make an argument when there isn’t one to be made

crisp heath
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Oh Sorry I read that as "Not ONLY that"

arctic talon
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The eldar, Krorks and Jokaero were modified by the old ones. They or their descendents have survived to the modern day

crisp heath
crisp heath
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Old Ones probably made way more than 3 species that aren't around

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The fact that exodites have dinosaurs kind of implies they made them

crisp heath
arctic talon
crisp heath
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The fact that the War in Heaven was 65 million years ago, and exodites have dinosaurs, suggests to me that dinosaurs are Old One bioweapons that were taken out by the necrons/ctan on Earth, where they were originally bred

warped briar
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as far as lore hammer told me, the krorks jokaero and eldar are the most important ones seeded by the old ones, haven't got much else

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the no drive orangutans are very funny ngl

reef tiger
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Can Tyranids be corrupted by chaos?

warped briar
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good question

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they would fit the khorne way of thinkings but not sure it would work for slaanesh, nurgle would be fed and so would tzeentch, they could add to their strength but not be corrupted since they are a hive mind

arctic talon
thick cedar
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How is Hadron sending shit to Mars if Warp fuckery is making Warp Jumps chancey?

warped briar
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plot convenience?

native charm
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I would love to have a game set in the Librarius Omnis. Think Borderlands + DT + Fallout + Metro horror https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Librarius_Omnis

Warhammer 40k Wiki

The great Librarius Omnis, also known as the Libraries Omnis, is a subterranean, continent-spanning library located beneath the sands of Mars which contains vast information from Mankind's history...

crisp heath
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darktide has taught me that even in the grimdark future there is free healthcare

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Unironically, I'm in a prepper/doomer server and like, we do talk about ways the Imperium has it better than modern America lmao

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It's not much, but it does slap you in the face when you notice it

crisp heath
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One thing I've noticed across several books is the Imperium manages PTSD surprisingly well. You'd expect them to just shoot them, but they do actually treat guardsmen with PTSD, and do give them adequate time to "recover" (as much as you can) before putting them back into the fight.

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This is a huge issue with American veteran affairs.

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You see it come up a few times on that one blog GW runs that's themed like a newspaper for guardsmen too

grave sparrow
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in the grim darkness of the 40th Millenium, the VA actually doesn't suck ass

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quality of life probably varies quite a bit from world to world, but there probably isn't any focus on the good worlds to live in the books because it'd be boring lol

native charm
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Untreated PTSD is probably an invitation to Chaos

grave sparrow
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if a guardsman survives long enough to develop PTSD they're probably pretty valuable to keep around

native charm
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though the life expectancy of a guardsman is pretty small

grave sparrow
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combat experience and all that

median marsh
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Fear those who grow old in a profession where people tend to die young

wintry scarab
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Are the skitarii recruited or conscripted? Are they willing to fight for the mechanics or are they forced to become augmented?

median marsh
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Varies

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Some are recruited, others were bred and created specifically to become Skitarii

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Augmentation is essentially mandatory in becoming a Skitarii

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Such is the way of Mechanicus, for flesh is weak

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And a machine is immortal

celest dome
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Some are Vat Grown

celest dome
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Some are not much more than normal Guardsmen

median marsh
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Some are more heavily augmented than others but iirc all of them have some augments at very least

green loom
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Getting your legs chopped off and eye augmetics placed is pretty much a given

arctic talon
celest dome
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There was a FW where the Skitarii were some sort of open school so often children of Artisans and Tech Serfs would become Skitarii

arctic talon
#

Becoming a skitarii is generally an improvement anyways in quality of life

#

If you’re a fanatic member of the cult mechanicus

#

As long as you’re okay with fighting and dying on some far off horrific battlefield lol

storm jungle
#

They sometimes deal with it and sometimes they don't, the Imperium at large doesn't care about much of its military servicemen.

#

There is an Eisenhorn short story where he laments that the Imperium doesn't offer any after service care to veterans.

It's not dealt with very well, unfortunately.

From Caves of Ice:

Going Siggy: A colloquial reference to the Guard medicae sanitorium in the Sigma Pavonis system where troopers suffering from mental illness and combat fatigue are sent for assessment and rehabilitation. The less chronic cases are returned to duty after treatment, while the more severe ones can receive long-term care, sometimes for years. Co-incidentally, the system’s other claim to fame is as a manufactoria of combat servitors, many of which find their way into Inquisitorial service.

In the Eisenhorn short story 'Pestilence,' the Inquisitor visits an asylum for retired Guardsmen, and it's not unlike something you'd have found in the late 18th century. In 'Missing In Action,' a whole Imperial Guard regiment suffers from PTSD and are killing civilians they erroneously believe are Chaos cultists; Eisenhorn ends up having to execute the lot, and it leaves a bad taste in his mouth.

In Darkness in the Blood, Dante recognises that an Imperial Navy captain suffers from PTSD, but doesn't know what to do about it. He tries to help the man by functioning as a self-taught therapist - it doesn't turn out well either

lapis wadi
#

As always, the galaxy is a huge place and the details shift as you move from planet to planet, system to system, subsector to subsector, sector to sector, segmentum to segmentum

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And with a million stars under humanity's grip, there's always room for those rare little oddities that buck the trend in any direction

#

...so long as it's still grimdark in the end, of course.

glacial eagle
#

you guys think if the entire imperium of man danced hard enough it would bring the emperor back?

lapis wadi
#

I don't think so but that much psychic energy all at once thinking about dancing would sure do SOMETHING

median marsh
#

There's a theory that Emps is on verge of becoming a full on god due to sheer amount of worship and the only thing keeping him from fully ascending is his body on the golden throne

#

But that's just one of many theories

spare osprey
#

||The main villain of the entire book, a fallen sorcerer. Believed if he could kill the emperor, he would come back a god and would save humanity and slay the chaos gods.||

#

||he made a ritual to possess the lions body to allow him to get that close to the emps||

crisp heath
#

So I’m wondering

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Theres the theory that leman russ wants to save isha (tree of life?) so she will heal the emperor

#

Would stealing her from nurgles garden make him so mad he would just immediately melt leman into goo?

#

Like khorne got attacked by skarbrand and was sent flying for a week

#

I feel like this would be a similar reaction

spare osprey
#

Honestly depends if leman can even make it that far into his realm

green loom
#

He'd have to make it out too

#

And then also get to the imperium

spare osprey
#

Mhm

green loom
#

And then also convince

#

The violently xenophobic crusader state

crisp heath
#

I feel like the laughing god would get involved

green loom
#

That a heathen, alien god

#

Can save theirs

crisp heath
#

This feels funny enough for him

spare osprey
#

She might not even agree to help tbh

green loom
#

Yeah lol

crisp heath
#

returns her to nurgles garden

spare osprey
#

Same day shipping

crisp heath
#

Morty is not worth mentioning as leman gives him a swirly on sight

#

Poor guy

median marsh
#

So it's not directly inside immaterium but pretty damn close

#

Some eldar did try to save Isha...and you can imagine how it went

#

Supposedly Magnus knows where Russ is

crisp heath
#

Magnus punching air rn watching leman have fun

queen laurel
median marsh
#

They thought they would be safe by astral projecting while being safely stored elsewhere

crisp heath
#

Be far seeer

#

Didn’t see it coming

#

Hilarious

median marsh
#

Spoilers, it backfired spectacularly and now they're screaming trees

queen laurel
#

Truly one of the moments

storm jungle
# crisp heath Hilarious

Thats because even if you are the most superior psykers in the setting you can't be too OP and gotta be forced to be stupid because the writers said so

#

A bit like how the Emperor is basically a demi-god but has to be a moron so the Heresy can happen and lack basic human sense

queen laurel
storm jungle
#

basically me irl

queen laurel
#

My man

storm jungle
#

🤝

near wasp
queen laurel
# storm jungle 🤝

Oh yeah Dilara the closest thing the setting has to something akin to nanobots is by the obliterator virus right

#

Where you can just form weapons out of your own flesh

#

Shapeshifting stuff like that

storm jungle
#

You do have nanobots in the setting

#

with stuff like phosphex etc

queen laurel
#

Does*

#

I'm talking just straight up liquid metal

storm jungle
#

no

#

its just white phosporous thats sentient

#

oh wait you mean naobots

queen laurel
storm jungle
#

I mean yeah this setting basically has lots of sci-fi tropes in it since its a kitchen-sink setting.

#

So any sort of mcguffin exists but nanobotes are definitely more advanced tech territory

queen laurel
shadow plover
#

necrons got them nanobots plus there was that one magos with nanobots beyond the halo stars

storm jungle
#

Yes.

#

we said so before

queen laurel
#

That's another idea i can have

shadow plover
#

slightly off topic I fucking hate the MCU nanobot shit

queen laurel
#

Because he actually ran out of nanobots

shadow plover
#

haven't seen that one

storm jungle
#

Nanomachines in fiction are basically "SCI FI BULLSHIT, GO"

shadow plover
#

quite

queen laurel
#

His nanobots are compact but not so compact that it can fit on my tiny brain

shadow plover
#

like imagine making a transformers movie where the robots tarnsforming is the coolest thing in the movies and then make the bad guy robots use nano technology and they'll become just pixel blobs when transforming

#

couldn't be me

queen laurel
shadow plover
queen laurel
#

Which means of is not careful it can run out which presents a weakness

shadow plover
#

a bit yeah

queen laurel
#

Iron man spider-man

#

Those characters have plenty of nanotech to spare

shadow plover
#

like this shit is the worst

#

like the fucking degeneration of design is palpable

queen laurel
#

You can watch this to see how he uses the nanotech

#

Let me tell you a lot f****** better than what the mcu did

thick cedar
#

Are servitors stinky?

#

theyre basically cyborg zombies, right?

shadow plover
#

ye I've seen them described as stinky myriad of times

#

flesh going bad and some chemicals keeping the flesh relatively lively

warm notch
#

Servitors are just cyborgified lobotomized people right?

#

Huh it didn’t register to me that they were actually dead

#

Or maybe it depends on the servitors whether the body is “alive” or not

jade holly
#

They are alive, their consciousness is what powers the machines they use

green loom
#

They're not even fully braindead

warm notch
#

Even the servitor colony we had to interact with?

#

Imagine how bad that place stinks especially with all the heretics around lmao

green loom
queen laurel
green loom
#

Whenever they get the light of day in books it tends to describe how fucked they are

queen laurel
#

And hey we had to go through the sewers to get a target once not the worst

warm notch
#

For the sewers to make the team gag in repulsion

#

Imagine how utterly awful it’d have to be since we kill so many walking corpses on a daily basis

#

It still doesn’t register to me that the hive cities have billions of people

green loom
#

Knowing hives

queen laurel
green loom
#

Those sewers probably have their share of corpses

warm notch
queen laurel
green loom
#

Actually an ogryn runs the armory

queen laurel
#

Yeah we deal with a lot of smelly crap

warm notch
queen laurel
median marsh
#

yeah, the ogryn from cutscene is Brunt

#

the servitor is basically his assistant/customer service

queen laurel
#

I'm pretty sure an ogryn can't count above 10,000 in coins anyway

median marsh
#

the smartest known ogryn could count to 4

#

(until the Psyker one appeared)

warm notch
#

Does the Psyker Ogryn have above intelligence for an abhuman or above intelligence in general

#

🤔

median marsh
#

well, from the one known she got smarter

queen laurel
#

These are from necromunda but these types of things are becoming more common thanks to the opening of the giant space hole

warm notch
#

WOO

#

Savant Psyker mentions that it’s awakening more people to psionic powers

#

So that’s exciting

queen laurel
median marsh
#

if youre curious the ogryn im referring to is Cassia from Ghazghkull novel

queen laurel
#

Mind you there are still rare but they can exist

warm notch
#

I wonder how exactly having a connection to the warp equates to higher mental capabilities 💀

#

But we can chalk it all up to “warp fuckery”

queen laurel
warm notch
#

Do they do a dwarf thing where the women are practically indistinguishable from the men

#

That’d be funny

median marsh
#

if i were to guess being able to channel warp etc has to cause some physical changes in the brain, maybe even barely noticable visually but improving stuff like neurons etc

#

the brain is basically a big, wrinkly (in our case) lump of slightly salted fat that sends electricity through you

storm jungle
median marsh
#

im only guessing so dont take it for granted

warm notch
#

Psykers are considered mutants . . . but are they technically mutants?

#

Lore is wild

median marsh
#

its a "next step in human evolution"

#

or at least some describe em as that

storm jungle
#

So yes.

warm notch
#

Mmmm eugenics

#

My favorite

#

I wonder how people with 6 fingers get treated lmao

storm jungle
#

they get killed

warm notch
storm jungle
#

the Imperium basically has most of the same generic purity principles as nazis.

#

its not that big of a surprise lol

warm notch
#

Funny

#

I love how unsubtle the Imperium is

median marsh
#

there are exceptions like Navigators but thats because theyre basically essential to imperium functioning

queen laurel
warm notch
#

Toenail on the forehead?

#

Wha

queen laurel
green loom
#

There's a thing where Longshanks(humans with longer legs) got butchered for being mutants

storm jungle
#

they were on shoreleave btw

warm notch
#

Michael Phelps wouldn’t live in the Imperium

storm jungle
warm notch
#

This is so sad

#

RIP Michael Phelps

storm jungle
#

who tf is Michael Phelphs

#

💀

median marsh
#

living in imperium is a nightmare for pretty much everyone, even the nobles

warm notch
#

Competitive swimmer

#

Who has a larger than average wingspan

#

Making him more capable at swimming than the average person

median marsh
#

instead of starvation and work to death the nobles are constantly backstabbing eachother

queen laurel
warm notch
#

Michael Phelps is a mutant this is so sad

queen laurel
#

I can just be sitting in a planet then a space marine bustdown my door because apparently another noble said i worship chaos

outer wave
#

Do you think Michael Phelps could run a swimming team in 40k?

warm notch
outer wave
#

But wait

#

He states he's doing it for the Imperium

warm notch
#

This changes everything

queen laurel
outer wave
#

Ermm

queen laurel
#

He will get shot

warm notch
#

We need an intergalactic Olympics now

outer wave
#

Tactical bog men strats

warm notch
#

Wait isn’t that bloodbowl

median marsh
#

technically every single person alive harbors mutations, 99% of em are just on cell level

queen laurel
outer wave
#

He swims butterfly and kills all the heretics with his massive girth and arms

warm notch
queen laurel
outer wave
#

50 m Free

#

He beats every xeno

#

He's making it like 22 seconds per length

median marsh
#

Commorragh olympics

#

introducing events such as javelin throwing at live targets

queen laurel
warm notch
#

#MichaelPhelpssweep

median marsh
#

wrestling with Homunculus creations

queen laurel
#

Baby pie eating contest

warm notch
#

Are they really that depraved lmao

#

That’s awesome

#

I love that

median marsh
#

they make furniture out of people

#

said furniture is still alive

warm notch
#

So do people irl

#

Lol

#

OH THATS COOL

#

That’s cool

#

I love that

median marsh
#

Homunculi are basically the weirdest dark eldar

#

compared to them the usual shenanigans are basically nothing

#

theyre expert flesh crafters and torturers and experiment on everything, even themselves

#

for example some have almost all their organs removed and carried on outside

warm notch
#

So like

#

That wall person in doctor who

#

That’s sick

queen laurel
queen laurel
outer wave
#

They'll lacerate themselves, then make a peanut butter out of you

queen laurel
#

Yeah

outer wave
#

They probably will try it once then throw it away

#

They're kinda dicks

warm notch
#

Does sliced bread still exist in the imperium of mankind

#

I wonder if they could eventually put some human peanut butter on sliced bread

warm notch
outer wave
#

And they did it so you could call them that

lapis wadi
#

Bread exists, sure.
Agri worlds produce grain. Civilised Worlds where you get to live in houses instead of hab-blocks exist.

Corpse Starch is for underhivers and rationing, real food is around and people get to eat grox burgers when there's not blockades and massive overpopulation and plague everywhere

#

But like, that's the boring part of the story before shit goes down and the plot begins in 40k.

#

Even the Guard has decent MREs

#

If you're eating corpse starch, you've run out of actual food.

rose thorn
#

Just bought the strombringer premium subscrpiton

lapis wadi
#

...that said the protein blocks in the rations are like, homogenous slab blocks someone threw spices at.

rose thorn
arctic talon
#

like its disgusting super processed meat

#

thats the color grey

#

but like could be worse

warped briar
#

so tofu

arctic talon
#

Nno

#

because tofu is soft

#

and usually smooth to go down

#

Slab is like not that soft

#

and its somewhat dry and chewy

normal light
arctic talon
#

lol

#

tbh to get an experience like eating slab

#

maybe like use some whey powder

#

and make a brick out of it

#

and stick some chunks of shredded beef jerky

clear kelp
#

So if warhammer 40K takes place in the 41st Millennium, why isn’t it it called 41K?

arctic talon
clear kelp
#

Epik

#

Oh wait I thought Darktide took place in the 41st

storm jungle
#

it is

clear kelp
#

Neat

arctic talon
#

Darktide takes place a bit after the Citrix malidictim opens

clear kelp
#

The huh?

storm jungle
#

the massive warp portal

#

splitting the galaxy in half

clear kelp
#

I dunno anything bout that

green loom
#

The big red thing

clear kelp
#

Woah

storm jungle
#

How new are you to the setting

clear kelp
storm jungle
#

damn

clear kelp
#

I am stoopid

storm jungle
#

you got a long way to go

clear kelp
#

Yea

storm jungle
clear kelp
#

All I know is Space Marines are epic doods thumbsup_ogryn

celest dome
#

Boss Dilara being da big Boss chadgryn

storm jungle
#

lmfao damn it

near wasp
#

Praise be!

clear kelp
near wasp
# storm jungle

Ive been feeling groggy and tired allday and this gave me energy, i do not understand

clear kelp
near wasp
#

For the emperor!

clear kelp
#

For the Emperor

warped briar
#

Nah fo da war bozz

spare osprey
green loom
#

Someone needs to make an actual animated comp with Imp advance

jade holly
jade holly
#

Ngl I’m conflicted on getting an army

#

I have never painted a mini before nor have the space or tools to do so

#

But having an army for collection purposes would be neat

urban spire
jade holly
#

Because from 0-99 is technically the first century

#

then 100-199 is the 2nd and so on and so forth

near wasp
jade holly
#

What I would def pay money for would be nice like 6-7” statue/figurines of prominent Warhammer characters

#

I did find this like 4” figure of Roubute Guilliman

near wasp
#

Models are smaller than that generally, i think gw models are 1/18 scale maybe look at joytoy

jade holly
#

$150 whatthefuck_heresy

near wasp
#

Oh yeah xD

jade holly
#

Like I want good figures for display that are bigger than the tabletop models

#

that I do not have to paint

#

as they would be painted already

#

ofc I could just buy a painted army but that would be no fun for my wallet

near wasp
#

Look on ebay after nerfs

jade holly
#

I want a DG army for collection purposes

near wasp
#

Deathguard?

jade holly
#

Yeah

#

They’re my fav legion

#

Besides the Noise Marines

near wasp
#

Im a ultramarines fanboy soooo

jade holly
#

Boyscout

near wasp
#

XD i was indeed a boyscout

jade holly
#

I bet you like iced water

near wasp
#

I do i also like vanilla icecream too

jade holly
#

I’m seeing a size comparison this is EXACTLY what I am looking for

#

HOLY SH- staregryn staregryn staregryn staregryn

near wasp
#

Even in death i still serve!

jade holly
#

Ok I’ll stop flooding this channel with images

jade holly
near wasp
#

Luckly ive not had to take out a loan yet

jade holly
#

I’m not dumb enough to do so

near wasp
#

Im certain there are people who do

keen stratus
#

Man, moments like this really make appreciate dilara as a mod

#

blud thinks he really serves the god emperor of mankind

near wasp
jade holly
#

I have come to the conclusion that I need a favorite loyalist group as well KEKW_ogryn

near wasp
#

my fav traitors are deathgaurd

keen stratus
#

And also i hope that dilara doesnt remembers she has this power

#

or were all doomed

sick copper
#

i just finished thousand sons, and im debating whether i want to pay 15 dollars for the next book

jade holly
#

Oh my God they have a figure for Lion El Johnson

keen stratus
#

Dilara, thanks for being as nice as you are

#

and tolerating my slaaneshi ass

#

other mods arent like you

soft thunder
#

anyone know if shipmistress Brahm is a former rogue trader or still considered one if her family still have a warrant of trade?

storm jungle
#

Shes still a rogue trader

jade holly
#

For the most part

storm jungle
jade holly
#

I’m not good at painting nor have the resources for it so it’d be a pain to get full armies

#

But I found figures that are just as cool imo

storm jungle
#

OH yeah Kill-Team is great if you want a cheap but not massive army option

keen stratus
#

What is a rogue trader?

jade holly
#

Oh not that

storm jungle
#

figures can be a bit more expensive

storm jungle
keen stratus
jade holly
#

I’m talking a brand called JoyToy that make like 1/18 model figures like this

storm jungle
#

ah I see

jade holly
#

Downside is

storm jungle
#

honestly good choice KEKW_ogryn

jade holly
#

That’s $150

storm jungle
#

oh 💀

jade holly
#

Worst part?

#

No Deathguard

storm jungle
#

yeah uh

#

these figures are almost all Imperium so KEK

jade holly
#

I mean they’re still really damn cool

#

They do have some chaos

keen stratus
jade holly
#

I’ve been looking

keen stratus
#

thats why we dont buy figures

#

and we just buy the games

jade holly
#

The fact that you can take off his helmet and he has a fully sculpted and painted face beneath it tho

#

Oh wait it’s actually different heads you can place on it

soft thunder
storm jungle
#

Ingame files, one of our mods Janfon dug it up a few months ago

soft thunder
#

need to swing by his channel, haven't checked it in months. Hope the lad is still killin it

jade holly
#

They actually have some Black Legion figures

storm jungle
#

Yeee its because they are the posterboys, so makes sense

storm jungle
#

just busy with life stuff mostly but still makes content here and there

jade holly
#

They have a Word Bearer too

green loom
soft thunder
jade holly
#

Nvm

#

I found the best figure they made

#

The fucking White Scars bike

warm notch
spring belfry
#

lore people

#

is the emperor a vegetable

#

like can he actually communicate or is it all a facade for the ecclesiarchy

green loom
#

Former

#

Actually both

#

Since there's probably hundreds of priests who yap about the Emperor speaking to them

#

Maybe thousands

#

Or more

spring belfry
#

right people are insisting he's cognizant because i guess he spoke to guilliman but who's to say guilliman isnt full of it

arctic talon
#

It’s more like getting your brain blasted with commands, orders, visions

#

Ect.

#

But he isn’t really cognizant the way he used to be imo

#

It’s like talking to someone who’s had a stroke

jade holly
#

It’s like talking to Stephen Hawking if when he spoke it was in your mind

#

He’s just sorta, there in the meat space

green loom
#

But the Ecclesiarchy doubtless has priests that claim he speaks to them

dusky scroll
#

Are there any standardization of PDF? Like basic criteria that needs to be filled or something?

arctic talon
#

and thats about fucking it

#

PDFs are even more varried in quality lore wise

#

then guard regiments

desert dust
#

Guard regiments are professional soldiers who are highly trained.
Unlike the memes the guard are pretty dam strong in pretty much everything

#

It's just if they are smart they see something they can't deal with they start calling artillery support in

#

If they are dumb because the book requires it they are normally just to proud to retreat

#

||ar least the commanders are||

#

PDF are basically the police and special forces and conscripted men and almost always worse than regular guardsmen

#

But if you live on a death world or cadia PDF are probably better trained than a lot of guard units

broken zealot
dusky scroll
dusky scroll
sick oxide
desert dust
dusky scroll
#

How bad can the armament of PDF get? As far as I knew weapon capability-wise a barebones lasgun is as low-tier as it gets in 40k universe.

formal gyro
#

PDF depends upon the planet

arctic talon
#

like

#

pike and shot lol

sick oxide
# dusky scroll How bad can the armament of PDF get? As far as I knew weapon capability-wise a b...

I think autoguns for PDF are as bad as it gets honestly. Autoguns are considered worse due to needing to haul around ammunition as well as the mags for the ammo. Las weapons are preferred because they simplify logistics massively and despite the memes very powerful.

Why they seem bad in tabletop/ lore in some cases against more powerful units are because for example a space marine's armor mostly negates las weapons.

sick oxide
arctic talon
#

its still a PDF by technicality

sick oxide
#

so if you can rotate out troops to backlines or rotate new powerpacks to the frontline and bring the drained ones to the backline you could in theory have unlimited ammunition for what is your standard issue weapon.

formal gyro
#

Now if we are talking las weapons. Las locks are the weapons the god emperor intended

sick oxide
#

funnily enough 40k is the only sci fi setting where i actually like the las/plasma weapons.

#

Mostly because they actually sound like weapons and not pew pew noises in most media i've seen depicting them.

formal gyro
#

Wish there were more depictions of guardsmen taking down space marines with las weapons

#

The only two I know of are in gaunts ghosts

#

And those were full power and 2 platoons worth of troopers

sick oxide
#

ceramite is no joke.

arctic talon
#

Gaunts ghosts also has some weird power scaling issues early on

#

but its very good

#

so I can't complain heh

formal gyro
#

Well after the 2nd one they toned it down to mostly human action

arctic talon
#

yeah

#

I love laslocks tbh

formal gyro
#

Vervunhive was really good

arctic talon
#

oh it was great

#

I love it

formal gyro
#

I finished only in death recently and the laslocks in that book were cool

#

To me they seemed like reverse engineered necron gauss weapons

arctic talon
#

laslocks honestly have such like

#

big differences between the shittiest ones

#

and the high quality ones

celest dome
arctic talon
#

Nah those are laslocks

#

mitralock is fatter

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

Yeah

#

Mechanicum laslocks in HH have AP5

queen laurel
# arctic talon Yeah

I'm a big fan of the laser musket from fallout so this is definitely going to be up my alley if they add it on the game

arctic talon
#

which means you instakill guys in flak lol

#

While normal laslocks have AP6 which I don't even think applies to anything

tough haven
#

Ok, idk if I should ask here or or in book club, but I'm looking for a book that I thought was being advertised not too long ago, and the reason why I bought and read all the farsight books in order, I thought it was called War of Secrets, but upon looking that up I found something different, I thought the premise of the book was Commander Farsight being interrogated by an imperial inquisitor, idk if that exists or if I'm insane

#

I could have sworn I saw something about that

crisp heath
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If a tyranid eats a necron will it get the necrons curse

celest dome
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No, but they can't really eat Necrons

celest dome
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Next one is gonna be Slaanesh. That one will be more difficult

celest dome
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The only idea I currently have for Slaanesh is to have their lower units have painted clothes and skin. Like the Indian festival of Holli, but I feel like it would be somewhat offensive

keen stratus
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it shouldnt be offensive as long as your intention isn't mockery

celest dome
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It is a tight line though. Like Tzeentch it's sorta easy as its simply Tertian civilian who are puppetted by cultist.
Khorne it's just civilians who are whipped in a Frenzy by cultist.
But for Slaanesh I only have drugs but I don't know how to make it visible without being offensive

near wasp
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Have a dude wearing a bong gasmask

verbal path
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Have them be the richer well dressed citizens with bright garish colors

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Like lime green scouts

keen stratus
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@celest dome Here are some references, you gotta make them seductive, they dont need to look like junkies, they need to look like really prestigous strippers

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So Like

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"Damn boy i wanna rip that skin of yours"

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"and feast on your flesh"

median marsh
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Remember, Atoma has a theatrical scene that's pretty renowned

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You could use that for the idea, the cult consisting of excellent performers who constantly chase perfection

urban spire
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the psyker enforcer is pretty bougy huh

misty vector
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So where do pox hounds come from? Are they regular pet dogs that became infested or some special breed

jade holly
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Psyker Savant is nice to listen to

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I like the actor they got for him

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But I’m gonna be real honest with y’all

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Fuck the one that keeps going on about “my beloved” or “You’re all in my dream”

green loom
celest dome
median marsh
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They're either canids or mastifs infected by plagues, maybe even a special strain of weeping pox due to horns that grew on them

jade holly
keen stratus
jade holly
celest dome
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Yes but if they introduce new factions they would have (at least it would be nicer) if they introduce an analogue to them

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Poxwalker for Dreg and Groaner for Scab

celest dome
sullen notch
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I just started one discussion about adding Adeptus Mechanicus as class, now we debate about what exactly is Omnissiah. One says that its Emperor, other that its C'Tan.

storm jungle
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a Man of Iron from Blackstone Fortress confirms this

near wasp
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The machine god is vashtor emoji_20

green loom
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We dunno what it is exactly

keen stratus
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@storm jungle hey, @celest dome Needs ideas for his slaanesh figures

near wasp
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The red robes are weird and esoteric

green loom
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We know it's not the Void Dragon
We know it's not Emps

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The End and the Death Part 2 may or may not imply it's actually the Dark King smilecat

keen stratus
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so i told him that they should be seductive more than anything

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like really prestigious exotic dancers

storm jungle
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There isn't much to say basically just be like the Hedonites from AoS but more sci-fi