40k-lore-chat

[jade holly]

Y’all are fucking weird sometimes

[wet sandal]

Take a shower

[green loom]

Grimm are the weird monster things in RWBY

[hasty coral]

Yeah I saw that

[green loom]

I think

[hasty coral]

Someone legit claimed Grimm are scarier than Daemons

Needless to say I said “post that in lore chat”

[green loom]

I'm going to take a page from

Bully Ogryn

[jade holly]

Are? Do I look like an entire legion of people to you?

[green loom]

And say

"don't care"

[hasty coral]

They got mald at me

[arctic talon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/735819155608961044/1055937848886431824/bruh.gif

[urban spire]

whats a grimm

cause daemons aren't that scary

[jade holly]

Me apparently

Whatever the fuck I am

[hasty coral]

Rwby

[arctic talon]

Lol

[hasty coral]

A computer show

[urban spire]

oh lol

[hasty coral]

Monsters

[green loom]

Idk I've only seen character redesigns

[crisp heath]

Someone actually said "Now you've got me thinking about it.. Grimm are just scarier Daemons aren't they." in #darktide-memes I mean WTF Hell Team RWBY would not last a WEEK in Tertium.

[hasty coral]

Literally any greater Daemon

[jade holly]

Wait is there actually something in RWBY called Grimm?

[hasty coral]

They could MAYBE kill a beast of nurgle

[arctic talon]

The beast of nurgle in game is heavily nerfed anyways lol

Would be funny

[hasty coral]

But wouldn’t be able to go onwards

[arctic talon]

If it was at its strength depicted in other media

[hasty coral]

Would be too shitshowed

To complete the mission

[arctic talon]

Actually that wouldn’t be a fun enemy

Lol

If it was at its actual power level

[green loom]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/546763235051700314/991110991343517726/nxJjoRoS.gif

[arctic talon]

Since you just can’t get into melee lol

[jade holly]

RWBY team could maybe kill an Ork runt

[arctic talon]

Without killing yourself

[green loom]

Me when people start comparing universes and the 40k parade begins

[hasty coral]

Yang has enough AP to do some damage

[crisp heath]

<Eamwhile these 4 "Methed up idiots" could basiclaly solve the Grim problem single handedly.

[hasty coral]

And maybe Weiss

But the other 2?

[languid badge]

Power scaling is for dorkies

BoN ate of course weaker inside darktide because otherwise the balance of the game would not work

[hasty coral]

Shit out of look

[arctic talon]

This tbh

[green loom]

We should shoot all who create VS debates

[hasty coral]

A .50 cal sniper and a pistol knife

[arctic talon]

Comparing power scaling between dif settings is stupid

[languid badge]

NO warhammer game has been actually balanced with universe vs game balance

[arctic talon]

Mostly since

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[arctic talon]

It’s dumb

Lore accurate daemons are funny tho

I enjoy instantly dying

[hasty coral]

How far back you wanna go?

[woeful hemlock]

RIP Monty Oum

[jade holly]

Mfw Doomslayer in 40k argument

[celest dome]

Nah, ripping them appart

[hasty coral]

Because that’s one poor comic reader

[languid badge]

Single flash git taking down a baneblade/knight, a squad of grey knights banishing greater daemons…the entirety of boltgun.

[arctic talon]

In FFG rpgs because a blood letter shanks me

[green loom]

Two regular orks killed a warlord iirc

[languid badge]

Fair nuff but still

[urban spire]

garfield would 100% fuck up skarbrand

[languid badge]

Bit silly Innit

[green loom]

Fr fr

[languid badge]

On BROTHER

[hasty coral]

That tracks because they CAN wield enough ap

It’s unlikely

[green loom]

Gaunt and co butcher 3 plague marines with only lasguns

[hasty coral]

And an outlier

[celest dome]

Imean, it's Garfield, obv

[languid badge]

Garfield bloodlusted (no lasagna) vs khorne

[hasty coral]

Ok THAT is bullshit

[languid badge]

This

[green loom]

And take on a massive fortress of bastards with some 200 men

[languid badge]

Poison barbs moment

[languid badge]

Granted didn’t they just use Uber future geurilla tactics

[urban spire]

mail that mf to abu dhabi

[woeful hemlock]

no lasagna??!! he could be an exterminatus weapon.

[arctic talon]

Whoever wins is based on how the writer feels

As is the truth with all warhammer content

[languid badge]

TTRPG moment

[hasty coral]

That shit is EVIL

Jesus Christ

[languid badge]

I’m saying

[hasty coral]

Gg Psyker

[green loom]

Barely tbh, at least on the first fight they were pretty much fighting conventionally

[languid badge]

Yeah

[crisp heath]

I only posted that here becuase someone replied to that other person saying "Please post "Grimm are scarier Daemons" in the lore channel, it will be fun to watch" so I decided to to it instead.

[arctic talon]

Tbh this is 2 degrees of absurd failure lol

[woeful hemlock]

except avatar of khaine, they never win

[hasty coral]

Look mom I’m on tv!

[arctic talon]

First we rolled for warp phenomena

[languid badge]

Gotcha. Been a minute since I’ve heard about it

[arctic talon]

Psyker lowrolled

Then Psyker low rolled again on perils

[green loom]

It'd be fun to watch them be funny

Unfortunately

meme chat is many things, and funny isn't one of them

[arctic talon]

We were inside of a chimera

The party is also now all dead except for one person

[languid badge]

Buddy’s seen things

[crisp heath]

I mean LBH Bolter shots from a full astartes team will have difficulty dropping a Plague Ogryn alone in a reasonable time, and those are explosive .75 cal rounds on automatic fire, bolters are incredibly strong but a plague ogryn is a nurgle blessed, chemically imbued, Ogryn
Yang would have the best chance but would not be able to tank more than a couple hits from a creature boosted beyond the ability of a normal Ogryn (who can drag chimeras)

[arctic talon]

10/10 psyker moment

Would repeat again

[urban spire]

the 40k rpgs thankfully walked back the absurd risk of using literally any power in dark heresy

[languid badge]

Tbh

Ogryn’s a good boy

[hasty coral]

I might have been wrong there

[languid badge]

It’s dark in dere’

[hasty coral]

But I have watched Rwby

[green loom]

Ok but get this

[hasty coral]

I can’t tank this

[arctic talon]

Imperium maladictum still has some big risks tbf

[hasty coral]

He is just reposting

That was me

Don’t flame him lol

[arctic talon]

Here’s the series of events in full lul

[urban spire]

i mean the ffg ones, i haven't touched anything since ffg

[arctic talon]

Ah

Fair

DH was a bit absurd

[languid badge]

Okay but get this

Two different universes scale differently (ogryn mindblown emoji)

[hasty coral]

True

[green loom]

[arctic talon]

My groups gona try maladictum soon

[hasty coral]

But IF we were scaling accurately

[celest dome]

In Fantasy, one of my friend's Warrior Priest of Ranald (Used Manaan's list for a subset of Ranald iirc) rolled on Divine Intervention, had chaotic intervention, had to roll on medium table of rolls, rolled major peril and then exploded, killing the rest of us

[urban spire]

i'm running an only war game soonish

[hasty coral]

That’s how I would put it

[green loom]

You can't scale accurately

[languid badge]

I solo rwby and warhammer :3

[crisp heath]

Now this guy could survive a lot longer.

[arctic talon]

Hilarious

[green loom]

Bolter strength is about as varied as my art skills

[hasty coral]

I use the books

[green loom]

Or consistent I should say

Which means

[urban spire]

would y'all stop reposting shit from darktide memes

[green loom]

Not at all

[hasty coral]

It says .75 explosive cal

[languid badge]

Chaotic intervention? Could chaos interfere rather than your jod?

[hasty coral]

Plague Ogryns are extremely tough

[green loom]

Yeah and how effective that is changes based on how hard Abnett farted this week

[woeful hemlock]

give me a jojo spinoff with god damn sly marbo right fuckin now

[languid badge]

Tbh they also mention grenade dispensing from marine backpacks

[urban spire]

jod (jeans god)

[arctic talon]

Yes

Oath of the moment - reroll all conversations

[languid badge]

I know what I typed

[languid badge]

Funny funny

[arctic talon]

It’s pronounced Jod

[hasty coral]

I don’t think .50 cal rounds and hit based strength (Yang gains strength based on the damage she takes) is enough to easily at least, put down a plague Ogryn

[celest dome]

That was the 2nd time we had a full party wipe, the 1st time was me causing a cave in by exploding part of Barak Varr

[hasty coral]

I don’t think that’s a CRAZY assumption

[urban spire]

dear jod who art in jeaven

[green loom]

40k is a universe of drama, not logic or actual power

[arctic talon]

Lmao

[hasty coral]

Bullets are bullets

[languid badge]

Jible

[celest dome]

It wasn't a bad idea

[languid badge]

Realzies

[hasty coral]

I use the least bullshit thing I can

[arctic talon]

It just went wrong I’m assuming lol

[hasty coral]

Which are bullets

[languid badge]

40K is ackshually a shpace opera

[celest dome]

Yes ||No, i was just stupid||

Space Novela

[hasty coral]

The Slaanesh arc would be censored everywhere

[languid badge]

They just wouldn’t do one.

No love for the dark Prince nowadays

[hasty coral]

Actually true

[urban spire]

priests in fantasy are the same as other spellcasters, but they channel their talents different

[languid badge]

Tela novela

[crisp heath]

Yea we having walking murder churches ........makes it difficult to compare power levels with most other factions.

[arctic talon]

Saltzpyre is an unlicensed mage

Just saying

[urban spire]

no he's a steam tank

[languid badge]

Witch

[celest dome]

Yeah, they roll on a different page than normal casters

[languid badge]

Yep I remember that lore

[arctic talon]

Choooo choooo

[urban spire]

bless

[celest dome]

In fairness, it would be a Sorcerer, not a Magister

[arctic talon]

A quiet drink my beloved

[arctic talon]

True

[languid badge]

Guys lore question

[celest dome]

Darktide Quiet Drink ? That would be a sight to see

[languid badge]

If quizzes

[urban spire]

oh i love the callback line to that in one of the newish maps

[languid badge]

Are quizzical

[urban spire]

"it's a good thing you're not a steam tank saltzpyre or it'd be hard to get you up these hills"

[languid badge]

Lots of “kark”

[arctic talon]

I’d like to imagine all the skaven and norscans are actually the ubersriek 5’s drunken rampage through bar fights

[urban spire]

"I'M SURE I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT"

[languid badge]

40K is peak because the swears are realistic

[urban spire]

the what

[arctic talon]

Karkin hell

[languid badge]

Kark, frag. Fancy swears for fancy English

[urban spire]

oh

[celest dome]

he meant the swears

[languid badge]

I love the 40K sweats

[arctic talon]

They’re just familiar enough

[languid badge]

Space marine sweat, emperor sweat…et cetera

[urban spire]

high quality nurgle sweat

[hasty coral]

Use realistic amount of swear words for soldiers: get called edgy

[arctic talon]

Also just sometimes straight up swear words show up

Which is funny

Like bitch

[hasty coral]

Make up own swear words to use as much as you want

[arctic talon]

Or shit lol

[languid badge]

Me when hardass roughnecks who fight monsters on the daily swear

[hasty coral]

Seriously most games with adult characters would swear so much more than they do

[urban spire]

the absolute worst thing is when "feth" shows up in places where it shouldn't

[languid badge]

Haven’t seen any but I bet it’s funny

[arctic talon]

Feth is a tanith thing

[green loom]

It's less a realism thing

[arctic talon]

Isn’t it lol

[languid badge]

Which one does feth stand in for again?

[arctic talon]

Fuck normally

[languid badge]

Thought that was kark

[green loom]

More that filling your dialogue with random swears everywhere is considered "lazy"

[languid badge]

Are they all fuck?

[storm jungle]

Yes

[hasty coral]

Hey I just think it has value

[languid badge]

Oh

[green loom]

Feth is also a dif thing

[languid badge]

[green loom]

iirc

[languid badge]

Met a psyker named mindkark

[green loom]

Since they say

[languid badge]

Funi

[hasty coral]

Because that’s just how cursing has imbedded itself into our language

[green loom]

"Sacred Feth" a lot

[urban spire]

feth is specific to the world of tannith, which got blown up

[hasty coral]

Fuck is a BANGER word

[languid badge]

Holy flip

[hasty coral]

I will stand by that

[hasty coral]

Great intensifier

[arctic talon]

Feth is a Tanith thing

Again

Different planets

[crisp heath]

IMO if you go through the king of hell most IGs go through then I think you earned the right to say a fuck or a shit.

[arctic talon]

Low gothic is different

[languid badge]

I see

[green loom]

Unrelated though but I loved the ending of book 1 where Gaunt randomly uses it but has no idea what it means

[arctic talon]

Therfore different swears develop

Some common ones like

[hasty coral]

What sounds more intense?

SUPER LARGE

or

FUCKING LARGE

[arctic talon]

By the throne

Or by the god emperor

Ect.

But that’s mostly religious swears like oh my god or goddamit

[languid badge]

I always assumed low gothic was just every language now plus 2billion extra languages mashed into one

[green loom]

it's inconsistent

[arctic talon]

Low gothic varies from place to place

[hasty coral]

Well kinda

[arctic talon]

It’s a clusterfuck of a language lore wise

[urban spire]

gosh kark it

[green loom]

They all speak english regardless since we need to understand them

[arctic talon]

^

[hasty coral]

I don’t think Emps gave the slightest shit about language

[green loom]

But the "common tongue" is apparently low gothic

[languid badge]

I say “emperor preserve me” on the reg in missions

[arctic talon]

High gothic lore wise is some cursed mashup between East Asian languages, Latin and some other crap

[languid badge]

I assumed it was like how Star Wars uses words like hell

[arctic talon]

Which is hilarious

[storm jungle]

It basically would be an alien language to us.

But the issue is nobody in 40k the writers included wants to flesh it out or give it a try to see how it would work, so all you get is literally just basic british accented english.

[hasty coral]

This is actually weirdly normal among games

[languid badge]

Like realistically “hell” wouldn’t have any meaning to them

But it’s their equivalent in galactic basic

[hasty coral]

You just end up getting sucked in enough

Which is a sign of a good universe

[languid badge]

Lol

[green loom]

Yeah the most you really see of the mentioned "battle tongues" and unique languages is isolated words

[languid badge]

On brother

[hasty coral]

Eh

Place down under

[green loom]

It's a good thing Tanith 1 covers this exact thing somewhat

[arctic talon]

Tldr I like the variety of fake swear words in 40K

[woeful hemlock]

SIGMAR BLESS THIS RAVAGED BODY

[languid badge]

Yeah. Pretty much

[storm jungle]

In comparison in darktide the writers chose to make Hell as Hel, with one L for some reason, even though a lot of the books use the normal "hell" as a word lol

[urban spire]

hel is a shitty planet, they use that one

[arctic talon]

It makes the universe bigger heh

[hasty coral]

That is literally the worst and the hottest place possible?

Hell has its uses

[arctic talon]

Might be a regional thing

[languid badge]

P much

[hasty coral]

Probably to the emperor too

It’s a concept that transcends the word

A place of the worst things possible

[languid badge]

Okay the fact that a ton of soldiers got corrupted by khorne on a planet called “molach-Baal”

[storm jungle]

yeah uh

40k isnt subtle

💀

[languid badge]

Yeah

I forget that sometimes

[arctic talon]

Lol

[hasty coral]

Wasn’t there a planet called MURDER?

[green loom]

Yeah

Horus Rising

[languid badge]

Took me years to realize exodites are wood elves

[arctic talon]

That was named that because a bunch of marines died on it

Tbf

“This planet is murder”

Lul

[languid badge]

Mega-arachnids of planet murder (not Tyranids trust me bro)

[green loom]

There's two fortress worlds called something like

"Wrath" and "Spite"

Iirc

[languid badge]

Lol

[arctic talon]

There’s a ton of ships called invincible

[urban spire]

we march into the afterlife

[arctic talon]

In 40K as well

[languid badge]

When is the “unsinkable” dropping

[green loom]

Anyone want to read the cool Cadian poem I found

[urban spire]

immediately

[arctic talon]

Lol

[warped briar]

todd howard is searching for you now

[arctic talon]

But lore wise low gothic is worthless to talk with someone from like another sector with

[languid badge]

Erhm, ackshually!

[arctic talon]

They won’t understand you lol

High gothic is universal

[languid badge]

I always assumed low gothic was just like

Every language is the same family

[green loom]

Anyway here it is

[languid badge]

Or low gothic is universal but planet tongues exist

[celest dome]

In fairness i know a few places named after murder, though in other language

[arctic talon]

Low gothic is like how China labels all its languages externally as Chinese lol

[languid badge]

Chogorian

[arctic talon]

When they sure as fuck don’t sound like each other

[hasty coral]

True enough

[green loom]

That seems to be the case

But again

Afaik

It isn't consistent

[languid badge]

Nothing is

[urban spire]

there's a place in norway named rooster violence

[arctic talon]

Lol

[languid badge]

Cock fight

[woeful hemlock]

not racist, but the chinese language is dumb, look up some literal translations

[green loom]

Have you tried translating latin

[arctic talon]

Me when languages don’t translate well

[urban spire]

"the chinese language"

THE chinese language

[green loom]

Also yeah what is it

[urban spire]

you know, chinese

[arctic talon]

They mean mandarin

[green loom]

Simplified Chinese, Cantonese, Mandarin?

[woeful hemlock]

yeah ok mandarin

[thick cedar]

If Horus wasnt a loser, would the Emperors Imperium have rivaled the DAoT?

[arctic talon]

Simplified Chinese is a writing standard

[urban spire]

the language for china

china's language

[arctic talon]

Not a spoken one

[languid badge]

Buddy it doesn’t need to look smart

[celest dome]

Mandarin is a fruit, not a language

[languid badge]

We speak a Romance language

OH my god

Are they called Romance languages because “Roman”

[arctic talon]

I’m going to make you write every Chinese character in a newspaper

[green loom]

No they sound romantic, according to this girl I knew from Los Angeles

[languid badge]

Lol

[arctic talon]

She has not heard a Chinese restraunt during a rush

[celest dome]

Chinese character from whihc show

[arctic talon]

I love random racial slurs because someone ordered something

[green loom]

In response to "Romance languages"

[arctic talon]

Oh

Weird

As well lol

People just like listening to things they don’t understand

[languid badge]

Real

[green loom]

I get to be funny and speak a weird language

[celest dome]

Italian and Spanish sound great

[woeful hemlock]

then there's german

[celest dome]

German isn't a Latin language

Dutch is still the worst language

[arctic talon]

The development of modern languages is cool

[languid badge]

I find it interesting most European languages are Roman influenced and use their alphabet (besides, of course, russian and adjacent languages.) and then most Asian languages use characters (tho I believe Mongolian is closer to russian iirc)

[green loom]

I have fun with my le funny Hungarian speech

[urban spire]

dutch is the language that looks the most like swedish chef written down

[languid badge]

Dutch is silly german

[woeful hemlock]

butterfly

mariposa

papillon

!!!!Schmetterling!!!!

[green loom]

Some slavs use the more common alphabet

[warped briar]

you telling me fr*nch isn't the worst

[green loom]

Like we use Cyrillic and Latin

Croatia uses latin I think

[arctic talon]

To learn? Iirc it isn’t that bad

Among the Romance languages

[languid badge]

True

[woeful hemlock]

Glove

Gaunte

gant

!!!!HANDSCHUH!!!

[celest dome]

Yes

[languid badge]

To be fair

Glove, gaunte, gauntlet

[languid badge]

Fair nuff

[urban spire]

gaunte's geists

[arctic talon]

English be like pineapple

[woeful hemlock]

"hand shoe" litteral from english

[languid badge]

Neither an apple or from anything pine related

[urban spire]

counterpoint: french be like pomme de terre

[green loom]

Don't most countries use variations of "ananas"

[arctic talon]

[arctic talon]

Yes

Which is why I’m making fun of pineapple

[languid badge]

A good 10-20 languages in Chinese direct translations are “__ country”

[storm jungle]

Pineapple is Ananas for us

[languid badge]

Yes

[celest dome]

But we also use patate (Not French though)

[arctic talon]

It’s actually __ word

🤓

[languid badge]

I guess why English doesn’t is because of banana? Idk

[woeful hemlock]

that was from german, but yeah the chinese country names are nutty

[languid badge]

No I mean I like

Oh my god what did I type

Sorry I’m tired

I meant

[arctic talon]

Lol

[languid badge]

A lot of Chinese names for countries when directly translated are “_ country”

[arctic talon]

中國 at least China is easy to write in China

[languid salmon]

Wasn’t it called a pineapple because it looks like a pinecone which used to be called pineapples?

[green loom]

In Hungarian everything is like
"ethnicity-land/country"

[arctic talon]

Maybe?

[woeful hemlock]

oh yeah but what comes before each is also insane

lemme find some examples

[arctic talon]

America is pretty funny in Chinese

It means beautiful country

美國

[languid badge]

France is “lawful country”

Lot of their names are ironic

[arctic talon]

China is called middle country

Lol

[languid badge]

Mongolia best country 🫡

[arctic talon]

Because they thought they were at the middle of the world lul

[languid badge]

Lol

[green loom]

Sweden - Svédország
France - Franciaország
Germany -Németország
Etc.

[languid badge]

Didn’t we all?

[celest dome]

Pomme de pin

[languid badge]

Israel is bagel country/j (I am Jewish don’t execute me :3)

Anyways

Back to Warhammer

Chogoris best planet 🫡

[woeful hemlock]

belgium translates litteraly from manderin as "Time to compare profits"

[urban spire]

oh shit we're in the warhammer lore channel

i completely forgot

[arctic talon]

Lol

Don’t you love anthropological discussion

[urban spire]

"haha funny language chat time with funny people in my computer, wait where am i?"

[arctic talon]

On the roots of languages

[green loom]

Debate

[woeful hemlock]

Switzerland is "Lucky Gentleman"

[arctic talon]

Looks as silly as the admech horses I approve

[languid badge]

Yeah why not

[urban spire]

don't trust a horse

[arctic talon]

Give it a flamethrower mouth

[warped briar]

and the winged sororitas arrive

[arctic talon]

Or a melta mouth

[normal light]

Pretty normal

[urban spire]

animal with only enough intelligence to sneak up on a leaf

[languid salmon]

Needs more random holy trinkets

[woeful hemlock]

OH GOD I FOUND THE BEST ONE!

spain literal translation from manderin is....

Western class teeth

[languid badge]

124

[urban spire]

what

[urban spire]

is this some kind of dogwhistle

[languid badge]

No

[normal light]

I wish someone did a Renegade Miltia miniature from Space Marine

[languid badge]

Well

Not a racist/phobic of any kind one

Joke about a piece of media

[arctic talon]

Those exist sorta

[languid badge]

Berserk

[arctic talon]

They’re based on the vraks militia

[urban spire]

OH

THAT HORSE

[green loom]

Is it about MLP

[languid badge]

Realzies

[normal light]

Yes , but like

[urban spire]

don't like that horse either

[languid badge]

THAT HORSE.

[arctic talon]

https://blacklegionmarket.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2018/12/renmilconv.jpg

[languid badge]

Anyways :3

[languid badge]

Cool

[normal light]

Anything I can relate with is this

[normal light]

And they don`t produce them?

[arctic talon]

No one bought them

[languid badge]

Tbh I just wanna use Ash waste nomads to make nurgle cultists

[arctic talon]

Forgeworld axed renegades and militia

Elysians sold well but not well enough

And the molds wore out

[normal light]

Old Cultists looked kinda better

Need get 3d prints of those

[arctic talon]

So they also got axed lol

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99120102144_CultistsLead.jpg

The new cultists are cool

[normal light]

Nah

You either get a box of 10 melee

[languid badge]

Elysians my love

[normal light]

or box of 8 with range

[arctic talon]

I never said the box was good

They look cool tho

[languid badge]

It’s like the NEW ork boyz

They look good

Box is kinda bad

[arctic talon]

The box isn’t just kinda bad

For the new boyz

It’s awful lol

[languid badge]

Yeah

[arctic talon]

It’s like 5 melee 3 ranged and like 2 specialists

And the nob

[languid badge]

[normal light]

Nah , I like old ones more

[green loom]

Waiting patiently for plastic Elysians/Steel Legion

[languid badge]

Realzies

[green loom]

Steel legion I'm confident in

Elysians not so much

[languid badge]

They’re cool

[celest dome]

Maybe they'll get some Made to order release

[arctic talon]

I know of at least 3 people

Chomping at the bit for elysians

Who own old elysians lol

[woeful hemlock]

3d printer, nuff said

[green loom]

Maybe more

[languid badge]

1000% ratlings

[normal light]

RPG with bipod

[languid badge]

With that older rumor mill with the food crate and sandbags.

Now with a big ass sniper rifle?

Ratlings

[normal light]

Where do you see a rifle?

[celest dome]

That's not a sniper rifle

That's an rpg

[languid badge]

Eh. Same vague shape

[normal light]

It’s an RPG with bipod

[languid badge]

Me blind

Anyways yeah ratlings feel likely tbh

[normal light]

Some sort of Carl Gustav but in 40K

[languid badge]

Just waiting for the ork kit to be revealed

[safe vigil]

So I need a bit of advice for a ttrpg

So the party are all Heretics aboard a Inquisitorial Prison Barge that's lost in the warp because the Inquisitors Daemonhost killed the Navigator

[versed ledge]

In the far future of the 41st millennium, the panzer Faust and ma deuce is still in active service

[green loom]

Waddya need

[safe vigil]

Kinda two bits of advice
Should the ship still be in the warp? The Interrogator aboard the ship plans to set off a distress beacon... but I don't know how that workds in the Warp or how he would get them into real space.
and
What happens too a Daemon if his Host is destroyed and he's banished back too the warp if he's inside a Gellerfield

The Daemonhost has the goal of dropping the Gellerfield and disappearing back into the warp... but don't most Daemons want a prescence in Realspace? being a completly unbound Daemonhost seems like a pretty good deal for a Daemon

[green loom]

If they pop the field they can still translate back into realspace

Admittedly though I'm not sure how going back and forth works

[safe vigil]

It's a decent intro adventure but there's just a few little things that don't make sense.

1. How does the Interrogator plan to get out of the warp. They all entered stasis to wait for all the prisoners to die. If they were already in Realspace why didn't they already set off the beacon to call for help.
2. Being in stasis whilst in the warp would still like... torture the soul because of the whispering of daemons.
3. If their in realspace already, they should have set off the beacon straight away since who knows how long it will take. They should have done it before they got into their stasis chamber.

[celest dome]

1. You could have it that there is a Warp Storm, which do make Warp jump more dangerous, that would force him to wait it out
2. If they aren't covered by a good Gellar field
3. But with Warp storm they might have decided on doing it when it's safer

[rose thorn]

Where it looks like ratlings to me but the fingers ar tthe bottom look to slim, to me it looks like house Delaque

sorry for my spelling stroke

[safe vigil]

You'd still require either a living navigator or a powerful psyker too exxit the Warp right?

[green loom]

I don't think you need them to enter/exit

That's the warp drive's job

You need them to not be running blind

[rose thorn]

Some psykers can temporarily navigate the warp but not for too long

[safe vigil]

Right okay.

[arctic fiber]

Hey new to 40k, how do the scab and dreg differ from each other? Are they all just faction that serve Nurgle?

[green loom]

The Dregs are the Admonitionist cult, a nurgle cult in the Hive City

The Scabs are the Moebian 6th, a guard regiment turned traitor, who've teamed up with said Dregs

[celest dome]

Scab are new turned

[versed ledge]

So what happens if someone does a EVA stint in the warp? Just only using an enclosed EVA suit, will they be "fine" - physically that is, psychologically they can go drink themselves to the emperor

[arctic fiber]

Opens new google tab to understand most terms

[green loom]

You'd throw something that exists into the realm where things don't exist

In short, not a good time

[versed ledge]

So he'll be fine

[green loom]

Hive city is the big thing we're fighting in, they're monolithic cities where billions-trillions of people slave away

Darktide takes place on the planet called Atoma, in it's largest hive, called Tertium

[safe vigil]

I think in the second Night Lords book, a space marine is caught on the ships exterior when they enter the warp

[versed ledge]

Think of it as fighting in a planet size new york

Basically a special kind of hell

[safe vigil]

and he's instantly possessed by a Daemon that uses him to break inside and go murder crazy

[versed ledge]

That's a hive city

[green loom]

A hive city is like if you took new york
And replaced the sky with inverted skyscrapers
And then copy pasted all of that until you reached the lower atmosphere

[arctic fiber]

So the Moebian 6th Regiment are people who chose and weren't turned forcefully?

[versed ledge]

Add Beijing level of air quality, but worse, and you'll have a hive city

[green loom]

That's both mostly

The Moebians got fed up with the fighting

So they turned to a cult

Said cult was active in the lower hive until now

Which is a literal hellscape

So their choice was either die or join the cult

[versed ledge]

The moebian six became smooth brain giga chads

[arctic fiber]

Are there any books around the moebian 6th?

[green loom]

Nop, they were made for the game

[arctic fiber]

Ahh

Is the planet we're on also "new"

[green loom]

Yep

[arctic fiber]

Aren't any other chaos gods influencing the planet we're on too?

[green loom]

Not that we know of

At the very least, the Nurgle cult so far is by far the largest and most active

[arctic fiber]

Where would you look up all the lore about the world/planet of Darktide

[green loom]

There's articles on their website with a lot of stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjMm5_wcplI&ab_channel=Xbox

[arctic fiber]

I think starting with only this game should be enough for the moment

[green loom]

There's dis

[versed ledge]

Gotta ask, are you new to 40k?

[arctic fiber]

Yes

I know a bit how chaos works in fantasy from the TotalWar games, but now I want to dive into 40k

[versed ledge]

OI LADS WE GOT A 40K NEWCOMER!!! Welcome aboard to a fandom that will make one appreciate the phrase "sure it's bad, but at least it's not THAT bad"

[arctic fiber]

I do like that about warhammer 😄

[versed ledge]

When you're doing a round in the manufactoria, take not of the environmental plot building there. Just by looking at those places alone, one can picture how people live in a hive world

[arctic fiber]

Just like Hongkong 😄

[versed ledge]

YES! More specifically, like Kowloon

[arctic fiber]

Yes

Correct

I was there 3weeks ago it's really impressive

[versed ledge]

Real shame it was torn down, that place was a marvel of human informal engineering

[green loom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwLoEhgcyzc&ab_channel=Luetin09

Also this should be the gist

[arctic fiber]

You're talking about the old monster building?

[arctic fiber]

Thx mate

[green loom]

The "current events" are like

[versed ledge]

The one and only walled city

[green loom]

30+ minutes in

[arctic fiber]

I did start watching him and Weswarhammer

[green loom]

So feel free to skip into it

[celest dome]

Isn't one of the Levant country trying to build a giant one ?

[jade holly]

@arctic fiber very important question you must answe

Who is the greatest papa in Warhammer

[arctic fiber]

I guess you mean 40k?

[jade holly]

Yea

[arctic fiber]

The God-Emperor

[jade holly]

WRONG

It’s this boyo right here

[arctic fiber]

Fuck already failed

I more a Blood for the Blood God kinda guy

[celest dome]

Emp isn't even the best father in his family

[jade holly]

Honestly I’d have to say Vulkan was the greatest father

considering how loyal and loving his sons are

[green loom]

Ok so ngl I wasn't aware Fatshark made lore for Atoma dating back to the Heresy

[jade holly]

Is it good?

[green loom]

Yes

It's Dabnett stuff

Of course it's nice

Well
Worldbuilding wise anyway

[celest dome]

What happened during the Heresy for Atoma ? Should we ping the dude who claimed that FS besmirched Abnett ?

[green loom]

They were loyalists through and through, Atoma was devastated and the Moebian domain was periodically governed from Crucis

It's vague but it's there

Apparently Tertium is called such because it's actually a cluster of 3 hives?

[celest dome]

Didn't one of the Dev say it was cause it is the 3rd most important of the planet

[storm jungle]

yeah Tertium is literally latin for "third of something"

or just "a third"

[celest dome]

Like Tertium does have some visible secondary Hives, but not sure which spires would count for the main hives or not

[urban spire]

the planet is called atoma isn't it

[celest dome]

ye

[near wasp]

Atoma prime which implies there are secondary worlds in the system

[urban spire]

that's less significant

could just be the only habitable planet

[versed ledge]

Neom, a hive city being built in the magical land of the UAE..

[urban spire]

wish people would stop calling that a hive city

[arctic talon]

It’s even less practical then a hive city

[brisk vine]

Neom is in Saudi Arabia

And it really isn't anything close to a hive

It's just the KSA being the KSA and wasting money on grand projects that won't turn into anything concrete

[versed ledge]

Fair, but wish we could build real life hive cities, or make more kowloons

Let's make 40k a reality, who's with me!

[arctic talon]

No

[crisp heath]

Anyone happen to know if GW ever released any Decals for the Ranks of Guardsmen in a squad?

[arctic talon]

[arctic talon]

As in within a squad markings?

Or markings for a sgt.

[crisp heath]

Yes

[arctic talon]

I think there might be one

[crisp heath]

I need a Sergeant decal

[arctic talon]

One moment

[crisp heath]

Thank you.

Preferably Kasrkin Sergeant if Special Forces different from the regular Guard Infantry

[arctic talon]

https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/e/e1/Elysian_Regimental_Markings.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120627201101

I found one for elysians

Let me do some more digging

[storm jungle]

I DONT think Kasrkin have any markings?

gotta look at their kill-team box

[crisp heath]

Specifically Cadian

Old school not new edition

Since my Kasrkin OC that I'm drawing is well 110th Cadian

[storm jungle]

You got these in the boxes as decals

[crisp heath]

Been trying to find decals but there's nothing so far except home brew.

[storm jungle]

the transfer sheet ones are your best bet

[arctic talon]

I found the sgt. Insignia

[crisp heath]

Yeah so GW has never bothered to make Rank decals great...

[arctic talon]

It’s 3 bars

[crisp heath]

Very nice thank you.

[arctic talon]

It’s on the cadian sgt. For the cadian squad

And no one else

In the squad

[crisp heath]

awesome.

[storm jungle]

Yeah this ^

[barren ether]

Ya know we are talking squad markings and not talking about the fact we aren’t even guardsmen, but members of an inquisitorial retinue

[arctic talon]

This is for something else it would seem tbf

But yeah we aren’t guardsmen

[barren ether]

Anyways captain buzzkill is here to ruin the fun

[arctic talon]

There’s ex guardsmen

[crisp heath]

Just sad that GW never bothered to make Rank decals for most guardsman ranks

Kinda immersion breaking.

[barren ether]

Well yeah that’s a point I was about to make. Yeah we got vets who were in the militarum but the other 75% of the cast potentially didn’t even serve

[crisp heath]

Anyways thanks, I got what I needed :p

[arctic talon]

Kasrkin do not seem to have rank markings for sgts.

[crisp heath]

Time to make a Loyalist 110th Cadian Kasrkin

[arctic talon]

I think

Let me double check

[barren ether]

Everybody wanna be Cadian. Nobody wants to be a Vitrian Dragoon

[arctic talon]

Okay nvm I found it

It’s on their leg

[barren ether]

Scale armor fellas, scale armor

[arctic talon]

@crisp heath kasrkin rank marking goes on the left leg in a lot of art instead of the shoulders

Now you might be asking GW why

My answer is I have no fucking clue

[storm jungle]

Its more stylistic purposes yeah

Kasrkin barely got any detailed lore aside from how they get recruited/trained

[arctic talon]

Medics got a fancy emblem on their shoulder tho

[storm jungle]

Kill-Team kasrkins also fucked it up kinda

since now they dont have the boxy leg armor

[crisp heath]

I refuse to buy the new models

for kasrkin and Cadian guard

[storm jungle]

they are SO close to being good

[crisp heath]

I'll stick with my old ones.

[storm jungle]

i just hate the box-armor removal

[crisp heath]

They are ugly as all hell

and don't look Cadian

[arctic talon]

It’s covered up with the jacket

Which is fine

But it’s a bit weird

[crisp heath]

They look like somebody took the 80s US Marines in BDUs with PASGT helmets

and made them a bit Grimdark/space age

the regular guards that is.

[arctic talon]

I don’t mind the new Cadians

But that’s my opinion overall

Very neutral on them

[crisp heath]

I don't like em..

[storm jungle]

Kill him Dark

Do it.

[arctic talon]

[crisp heath]

Elitewolf is obviously a Vendolander

[arctic talon]

I think the new helmets are fine on the normal guys

[crisp heath]

5'7 at best

smh

[arctic talon]

But some of the officers/specialists

Are like

Weird as fuck

[crisp heath]

The new helmets

would fit heavy troops

with heavy weapons

[arctic talon]

Bruh I’m Asian so shorter lol

[crisp heath]

and keep the old helmets for regular line infantry?

[crisp heath]

dw im even smoller

[arctic talon]

I’m 5’5 lol

[crisp heath]

I'm like 156cm so 5'2?

I couldn't even pass myself as a Cadian kek

[arctic talon]

Lol

[crisp heath]

I'd need a second person in a coat or stilts

[arctic talon]

Cadians are really tall

And muscular

[crisp heath]

The boxy shapes of cadians really sells the "futuristic but extremely inefficient" aesthetic imo

[arctic talon]

Anyways lol

[versed ledge]

Maybe you could pass as a rattling sniper

[crisp heath]

I like awkward, square guard stuff

[arctic talon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/195404877688602624/1167229583339302942/IMG_2589-1-1.jpg?ex=654d5e42&is=653ae942&hm=8d3ba80d648ed6fa2a221a3e7554c51e4161edfb45269a5f9278049fb992e1dd&

[storm jungle]

holy shit hes literally me!!!!

[versed ledge]

Ooof

Wonder how many times a space marine has been saying that phrase

[arctic talon]

Too many

[crisp heath]

I'd rather drop off a ledge

[warm notch]

What phrase?

[arctic talon]

I am Alpharius

[warm notch]

Oh ok

<- has no idea the significance of the phrase

[arctic talon]

It’s

A battle cry mostly

Or a declaration of purpose

Alpha legionaries like to say it

Some absolutely hate it

It depends

[warm notch]

Is it like Cadians making Cadia their entire personality?

[arctic talon]

Sorta

Lol

It also helps annoy imperial record keepers

Because if a bunch of alpha legion warbands all say their chaos lord is Alpharius

And they all dress about the same

Kind of a pain in the ass to keep track of who is who

[crisp heath]

then you just kill em all

[arctic talon]

Yep

[warm notch]

[crisp heath]

FOR CREED

[versed ledge]

For Chaos!

[jade holly]

Alpha Legion specializes in making Dwight Schrute suffer

IDENTITY THEFT ISN’T A JOKE ALPHA LEGION

MILLIONS OF FAMILIES SIFFER EVERY YEAR

[storm jungle]

YOU WOULDN'T STEAL A CAR

[jade holly]

You’re right

But I would download one

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/piracy-download-a-car-piracy-its-a-crime-download-a-handbag-download-a-computer-gif-17133478

[jade holly]

[storm jungle]

I mean the general events around 40 khave been the same as all these other franchises.

Its all focused around one faction, none of the universe is ever fleshed out, and all of it is focused on Space Marines

we got the Great Rift for years now and nothing exciting has come out of it.

[crisp heath]

I now go

and make enemy dead as doornail.

LOTR has been stagnant since JRR passed.

And I refuse to aknowledge TROP Series Amazon made.

[jade holly]

Stagnant? Mf that IP dropped off a cliff when Rings of Power came out

[crisp heath]

Thats why a huge part of the Old Vanguard doesnt accept ROP as anything LOTR related.

Me included.

LOTR ended when Aragorn was Crowned king and thats the end of it

Anyways 40k chat not LOTR chat :p

However with current 40k lore it kinda feels like a dick measuring contest between Imperium and Chaos.

[broken zealot]

what's wrong with saying you are Al

[crisp heath]

And I see no real option where the Imperium could win in the current state of the galaxy/lore.

[broken zealot]

sadly not true

[storm jungle]

Its entirely true lol

Stuff like Rings of Power was just prequel stuff

theres no "new" LOTR content in ages

[crisp heath]

And bad at it

[crisp heath]

As I said.

[broken zealot]

LOTR is one of the most bastardized modern fantasy properties there is

There are like 6+ videogames alone

[storm jungle]

to the point that warhammer itself stole from it

[crisp heath]

Once Aragorn was crowned king there was no real story after except for the Appendecies and bits and pieces of Aragorn beating back the Easterlings to Far-Rhûn and the Haradrim out of Harondor and Umbar to re-claim the city.

[broken zealot]

Stealing from better authors is fine and also good

As long as it's not directly taking money off their table

[crisp heath]

After that Aragorns Sons ruled for thousands of years. in almost Eternal peace

They even rebuilt the Kingdom of Arnor.

[broken zealot]

nids attacking terra seems like a way to make them look like bitches

[crisp heath]

Yknow what they say.

Death before dishonour.

[thick cedar]

4 man teams
Get sent into whats presented as thinly veiled suicide missions
Thrust into enemy strongholds full of enemies. Including, but not limited to, traitor Guardsman, Poxwalkers, mutants, Beasts of Nurgle, Chaos Spawn, and Daemonhosts
We kill them all and win more often than not

How the fuck does the Imperium lose?

[spare osprey]

Tbf the shadow games are pretty fucking good if you sorta hold them to the side of LOTR

https://tenor.com/view/talion-attack-gif-12771107

[barren ether]

……always has been

[broken zealot]

Yeah, it's too bad someone can't take that system for something else after they set the groundwork

[barren ether]

Because one thing is a video game and another is the lore, and in the lore, more often than not, your average imperial combatant isn’t equipped with inquisitorial grade gear, survives long enough to merit the requisition of said equipment, and aren’t fuckers controlled in a video game by real human beings.

That and there are more of them than there are us

[thick cedar]

I refuse to believe my Psyker is anything but a Delta/Gamma tier

Only limited by gameplay

[spare osprey]

See the only reason we haven’t lost

No named chaos marines

[thick cedar]

Delta is pretty high on the list

High-mid tier

Point being

our Psykers are clearly more powerful than the average

[barren ether]

Mediocre actually

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/The_Assignment

[thick cedar]

Delta // Gamma
Occurring in approximately one-per-billion human births, Delta and Gamma level psykers exhibit extreme levels of psionic ability. Unless discovered quickly, death or possession are common results of the untrained mind being unable to handle this level of mental energy.

How is that mediocre

[barren ether]

Read the page on Lexicanum please and then come back to me, not some meme

[thick cedar]

What meme?

There was no meme

[barren ether]

Go read the Lexicanum page I linked as I was once in your shoes too until someone proved me wrong

[thick cedar]

Nah

Until Fatshark or GW specifies

Our Psykers are high tier

[barren ether]

Bless your heart

[thick cedar]

I dont have a fetish for being shitty

[barren ether]

Have a blessed day ❤️

[spare osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-what-does-that-mean-terry-jeffords-terry-crews-brooklyn99-gif-13243285

[barren ether]

If you can’t read then my sweet summer child

Lexicanum IS LITERALLY THE MOST ACCURATE 40k WIKI OUT THERE

[thick cedar]

Its just that a lot of the time people hate the idea of our characters obviously being special even though we do extraordinary things the average person fails at. So people do mental Gymnastics to "actually, your character is secretly dogshit"

[barren ether]

And if you can’t read a short page that clearly defines psyker scaling while on a 40k lore chat, then again: bless your heart

[thick cedar]

So I just see it as some weird fetish

[barren ether]

Your character literally IS dogshit. That’s like the entire point to the name Rejects

[broken zealot]

Ehhhhh

2nd

[spare osprey]

But

Our characters aren’t special

[thick cedar]

Rejects that surprassed every expectation

[spare osprey]

That’s the whole point

[thick cedar]

Its implied rejects die by the dozen

we dont

were clearly above average

[spare osprey]

Well yeah cause then you wouldn’t have a game

[thick cedar]

Moot point

[hasty coral]

Named characters rule

It’s a legit thing in 40k at this point

If your named

[barren ether]

we are disposable and our value is recognized by being given access to better equipment. We don’t just magically become Mary sues because muh head canon

[thick cedar]

When the games story is telling you that youre literally above average and taken aboard the inquisters warband, thats clearly a sign that youre above the normies that died before you

[hasty coral]

You get special armor

[hasty coral]

Hence, named characters

[storm jungle]

Alright yall ease with the bullying

[spare osprey]

Not when it’s almost literally impossible to survive direct contact with most of the enemies in game.

[hasty coral]

A lot of the lore

[spare osprey]

Gameplay before lore Y’know

[hasty coral]

Is rule of cool

[thick cedar]

Sounds like a convenient excuse

I dont buy it

[storm jungle]

[hasty coral]

There is so much stuff in 40k that can kill even a space marine by breathing on him

Because GW likes rule of cool lore

So it’s not a surprise a ton of it is thrown out with named characters

[thick cedar]

Basically

[spare osprey]

Which belongs to peeps not our own. Like they actively belong to other lads in the warband and all

[hasty coral]

Plot armor

That’s what I meant

Not ACTUAL armor

[storm jungle]

By level 30 you become an official member of the Ordo hereticus, not cannon-fodder, the dialogue reflects this.

[spare osprey]

Ohhhhhh

[storm jungle]

hence you also getting a rosette etc

you are still Goons but not murder-hobos to say the least

[spare osprey]

No ye

I’m just talking about like

[hasty coral]

Again killing a beast of nurgle alone is lord breaking

[spare osprey]

Character armor

[hasty coral]

But ours guys are more resistant to chaos

I guess

Which I mean

[spare osprey]

So the stuff that belongs to like the kriegers and other lads

[hasty coral]

COULD be a thing

[storm jungle]

the Beast of Nurgle and the Daemonhost are the only semi lore-break'y stuff our characters can fight against.

Everything else is pretty fair game.

[spare osprey]

The single bits I get 100%

[thick cedar]

Its funny how many people deny this. I've had people argue with me about how were not actually part of the Inquisition despite everything saying otherwise

[storm jungle]

Lmao

theres literally a level 30 dialogue that says you all take the hereticus oath

[hasty coral]

It’s more part of the war band

[storm jungle]

so yeah

[hasty coral]

But yeah

[thick cedar]

Even dialogue about how were part of the warband

[hasty coral]

Inquisitional position

[storm jungle]

yeah you become Official Goons basically

not trash hobos

[hasty coral]

Which is actually a pretty massive deal tbf

That gets you a lot of clout

[storm jungle]

Yep.

you arent a big shot but you arent a nobody either

[warped briar]

So mid

[barren ether]

Having an aneurysm rn when your particular inquisitor still treats you like trash and every single vendor treats you like trash, but no because you’re now an adept and have slightly shiny toys, suddenly that makes you worth something.

[thick cedar]

Hadron doesnt count. She treats everyone like shit

[barren ether]

But because people wanna feel special they will essentially do the very same mental gymnastics around why they still have to do grunt work

[storm jungle]

Bro Morrow treats everyone like shit 💀

he also tells you that he VOUCHED for you to Grendyl

and that to not fail him in the Ascension Riser mission

[barren ether]

Don’t mean shit when we are still treated like pieces of meat considering inquisitorial adepts are generally given more specialized tasks and roles upon ascension into any retinue.

Unless we want to call the exact same missions we do when we were nothing specialized tasks and roles

Great now we have cool toys, so where else is that oh so great clout

Just that, that’s it: the cool toys

[storm jungle]

Breaking news, thats how everyone gets treated in the Inquisition

everyone is disposable to a high degree, including your bosses

its how the setting is

[barren ether]

Ravenor over here like 🌝

[storm jungle]

Yeah because he has plot armor

but you know

[barren ether]

Eisenhorn over here like 🌝

[storm jungle]

also is cooked to shit and in a wheelchair

[storm jungle]

went radical and the Inquisition is hunting him

[barren ether]

And? What about his retinue? How did he treat them?

[thick cedar]

Gideon Ravenor was an Inquisitor of the Ordo Xenos of some renown and one of the Inquisition's most powerful psykers.
and one of the Inquisition's most powerful psykers.

Thats a bit of an unfair comparisson

[storm jungle]

Pretty well???

Its when Cherubael starts corrupting him that he does what he does

[storm jungle]

AND again this

you are giving comparison to two famous mary sue plot armor inquisitors

the author cant just kill them

[barren ether]

everyone is disposable to some degree

Then cmon you say that like please you can’t possibly argue that somehow everyone treats everyone like a piece of meat

[storm jungle]

[barren ether]

And you wanna use muh plot armor when in reality that’s a cop out for an apt example

[storm jungle]

...

Because it is plot armor.

What do you want me to say lol

Eisenhorn should just die in a street stabbed by some hobo because he wasnt careful? That doesn't make a fun book.

[barren ether]

Why is that even a defense lol

[storm jungle]

Wh-

honestly a gif comes to mind for this

https://tenor.com/view/howard-hamlin-jimmy-mcgill-saul-goodman-better-call-saul-breaking-bad-gif-22509687

This is me leaving because I gotta go make some coco so have fun i guess