Imperial armour does logistics a ton
#40k-lore-chat
green loom
storm jungle
^
storm jungle
Imperial Armor is the ONLY place you'll read about logistics yeah
green loom
Lemme tell ya, running ammo for 5 hours is not my idea of fun
arctic talon
Imperial Armor is the ONLY place you'll read about logistics yeah
Eldar logistics via webway gate
Lul
storm jungle
just counting battle-groups and what warriors you will be taking
not uh
HOW MANY NADES
HOW MUCH FOOD
HOW MANY MEN
HOW MANY VEHICLES
storm jungle
💀
Taros Campaign is a great example
Imps ran out of supplies and got their ass kicked
arctic talon
Where they run out of tank shells lol
storm jungle
Anphillion Project yup
arctic talon
And then get over run by a bio titan
storm jungle
No even better
Inquisitor kills a bio-titan all by himself
another fucking one shows up from the fog
book ends there
KEK
arctic talon
LOL
storm jungle
Yeah and then you cut to the logistics parts
and it just says the mission was an absolute failure
god I love Imperial Armor
green loom
But yeah logistics is funny
If you pay it too much mind you'll probably hate yourself
Like most of the people here
arctic talon
Imperial armor has a lot of dry humor
celest dome
You could do it faster and with less people by having the truck just deliver to the final line directly, or maybe having only 1 buffer lifter
green loom
Is that marvel
safe vigil
2000AD
storm jungle
2000AD
2000AD is one of the bigest inspirations behind warhammer
so that checks out
safe vigil
Aye
Definetly in style during the very early years. The kinda... slightly juevinile, punk, post-pop political satire
I'd love to see people talk more about the topic
storm jungle
its very underrated beyond some other circles
safe vigil
yeah when people talk comics it's only ever DC and Marvel
hell. Warhammer had a monthly comic strip for like 20 years
but those comics definetly took themselves more seriously then the average 2000ad Prog
storm jungle
yeah Warhammer Monthly, miss that a lot
shame it just died because GW didnt wanna invest in it
safe vigil
The Comic Book market is really really small so I can understand dropping it. The most popular batman comic at any given time only sell less then 50k units
Which to me is small atleast for how big the cultural impact feels
I trawled through Warhammer Monthly a while ago to read all the Malus Darkblade strips.
I... do not like the Strip format, must make it a real pain to read a single story from start to finish
But 2000ad, Warhammer Monthly. They were exactly the kinds of stories I wanted to read as a kid.
storm jungle
A lot of people grew up with em so i can entirely agree there
echo vault
Are the auric class operatives just the imperial guardsmen we pass by in the start of some levels
green loom
No
echo vault
Because I don't think there's any groups super powerful involved no assassins no space marines
green loom
Auric operatives are like us just fancy
warm notch
A lot of people have blamed it on how difficult it is to get into American comics compared to manga that just start at Volume 1
green loom
Actually I think we're basically the auric operatives now, seeing as we're doing auric missions
echo vault
Ye thats what I was thinking I was watching a video that was like claiming it meant theres assassins or something like no thats dumb
green loom
If you count us as assassins 
echo vault
like the guardsmen we pass by are no different to us I guess?
green loom
No they're actual military/pdf
They have Atoman markings
We're red and black, grey/blue is Atoman
echo vault
huh i swear in my head i see the red and black outfits in a few of the levels like the ones on the ship
green loom
Uhh maybe in like
The refinery
And
Ugghh
Yeah nah the refinery one
There's a squad of like 5 I think
echo vault
yeah maybe i haven't played in a while so maybe i'm misremembering
celest dome
Auric Operatives are led by Melk, the Rejects by Morrow, but we're taking on missions that should fall on Melk's group
celest dome
They probably get less replenishement than we do
arctic talon
We’re doing their job with worse ammo
versed ledge
What's ammo?
spring belfry
warhammer just has the coolest lore, its so crazy in-depth
i never played the tabletop or read a book, i think i just randomly got a youtube video recommendation years back about space marines or something and fell in love from there
im excited for the henry cavill thing, i think hes supposed to be making a netflix show
near wasp
Amazon
grave sparrow
if it were anyone else but Cavill I think I could care less, but since Cavill has proven he is a stalwart lore follower, I'm excited
green loom
That guy gets wanked on for doing absolutely nothing lmao
grave sparrow
if by nothing you mean preventing writers from bastardizing lore and being a GAMER then HELLLL YEAH
jade holly
I need this as a Zealot outfit NOW
green loom
I wonder if anyone will make a spoiler thread for the Creed book before long
Curious to see what happens
storm jungle
I wonder if anyone will make a spoiler thread for the Creed book before long
Creed book?
green loom
Ashes of Cadia
storm jungle
OH Ursula
green loom
She's Creed smh
storm jungle
Im waiting on a spoiler thing from Shaskais
i dont trust r40klore because they are dumbasses that redtape any good juicy novel spoilers lol
Every cosmetic that gets added has to be approved by GW
its been like this since Vermintide, its pretty dumb
jade holly
Everywhere I go, I see the gas mask
green loom
They wouldn't have done sets for all classes if it was even barely in doubt
storm jungle
Yeee
keen stratus
grave sparrow
So like, I get the whole thing about tech heresy and how it's basically a major plot.
But the fact that technology in the Imperium has remained stagnant for 10,000 years is mind boggling.
Like we went from horse drawn buggies to VTOL aircraft in the span of less than 100 years.
It seems so egregiously against human nature to remain that technologically stagnant for that long
storm jungle
So okay let me tell you a secret
stuff still gets invented
the admech just lie about it
grave sparrow
ok fair lol
and I guess if some smart human makes some cool shit the arbites gonna just knock his entire hab block down
storm jungle
Yeah basically its a mix of admech finding pre-existing tech to add to the Imperium's arsenal or just inventing shit in secret and calling it a new "discovery", keep in mind not a lot of the admech do this only the actually smart ones that know the mechanicus creed is bullshit do.
The point is the non-invention thing is sitll very widespread and one of the reasons why the Imperium is a shithole.
look at the Votann, they got advanced tech and work-forces that arent lobotimized innocent people and they are mostly doing great lol
nocturne crest
and I guess if some smart human makes some cool shit the arbites gonna just knoc...
Can't he just say that it came to him in a dream by the admech symbol?
grave sparrow
Not sanctioned, he's a HERETIC
nocturne crest
Maybe there is an admech version of Thorite ideal
grave sparrow
The Votann are entirely seperate from the Imperium though aren't they? I honestly don't know much about them other than they're squats lol
storm jungle
Votann in 40k are basically abhumans that evolved into their own race through cloning.
They still use semi-human looking tech it just has a dwarf flair.
the point is that the Imperium has no reason to be doing anything its doing when you compare to Votann society.
their entire thing is that they are self-defeating
grave sparrow
This is true. How about the farsight enclaves? Are they faring well enough without the Etherals guiding them technology wise?
storm jungle
Pretty much yeah, they just need supplies sometimes since they a rogue enclave but they are pretty much a Tau faction without the downsides.
grave sparrow
So all the Etherals did was basically make the Tau mind controlled into servants, creating peace, and then the Tau were always smart enough to develop technology when they weren't yeeting pointy sticks at each other?
storm jungle
We dont exactly know
Its hinted to be a bit of mind control and just massive propaganda/reconditioning?
Theres a fucking hilarious scene where an Ethereal literally goes
"Kill yourself." to a tau and they just do it
arctic talon
So all the Etherals did was basically make the Tau mind controlled into servant...
Tau empire has an absurd amount of propaganda. They might just be getting brainwashed the old fashioned way and have no reason to question it due to their quality of life
jade holly
Tau empire has an absurd amount of propaganda. They might just be getting brainw...
Then Farsight happened
jade holly
Yeah but even a small crack can lead to a major hole if left unchecked
arctic talon
He just doesn’t think the ethereals should be the ruling caste
Which yeah pretty logical
jade holly
All Farsight needs to do to begin removing the veil is to simply ask the right questions
arctic talon
Doubt it
The tau empire is super heavy with propaganda
And farsight is dead to the public
safe vigil
I believe
Colonel 'Iron Hand' Straken has an australian accent
but you could probably get awayy with any action star accent. Australian, German, Belgian... whatever Stallone has
dusky scroll
But as far as I knew they left technology because technology was corrupting them into debauchery.
What's a maiden world?
storm jungle
What's a maiden world?
Its basically a lush, green, nature world that is untouched and vibrant with life
storm jungle
~~But as far as I knew they left technology because technology was corrupting th...
It wasnt technology, it was their excessive emotions
Exodites still utilize tech.
safe vigil
inhabited by amish dinosaur riding eldar that will kick your ass for stepping on their lawn
wood elves
storm jungle
With lasers
dusky scroll
It wasnt technology, it was their excessive emotions
Then they prefer riding dinosaur into fight instead of something that would be more... high-tech and functional?
storm jungle
Then they prefer riding dinosaur into fight instead of something that would be m...
Because its a tabletop game.
You kinda need an aesthetic lol
safe vigil
and dinosaurs are kewl
dusky scroll
that part, I understand..
safe vigil
for some reason they are criminally underutilized
dusky scroll
Space Wood Elf... never thought I'd hear something like that.
storm jungle
Welcome to 40k then
we also got space orks
and space samurai
and space knights
and space monks
and space paladins
long list
safe vigil
space nuns
storm jungle
that too
lots of trademarks
that and 40k is literally fantasy in space
you'll see a lot of those tropes
safe vigil
'nothing new under the sun' and all that
storm jungle
dusky scroll
So they're not really a separate faction then? Just part of the Eldar population that decided to not to live on Spaceship and go green on the tech side and watched the animated series Dragon Booster?
storm jungle
They are a seperate faction culturally, they are still the same race.
Its like how Dark Eldar are Dark Elves, Craftworld Eldar are High Elves and Exodites are Wood Elves
and for Exodites yeah they wanted to literally be that one farm guy meme
dusky scroll
Do Dark Eldars fight with Craftworld Eldars ?
storm jungle
Dark Eldar fight with anyone
storm jungle
^
but they are mostly in their own dimension in the Webway chilling, they dont actively go to war, they commence raids for slaves
they arent a big player in the galactic theatre
dusky scroll
Dark Eldar fight with anyone
So, they (Dark Eldar) are NOT allied with Craftworld Eldars.
But according to what I was told here, Exodites are in treaty/alliance with Craftworld Eldars.
storm jungle
It depends from exodite world to exodite world
and Dark Eldar will sometimes ally with Craftworld Eldar if they wanna get something out of it.
its not a simple subject
safe vigil
Commoragh is like a MC Esher painting if was a cyberpunk hellscape complete with military factions that more so resemble the mafia and street gangs that resemble tribes
storm jungle
Basically detroit but more spikes and no physical laws.
safe vigil
I think in one of the books the DEldar's best weapon was luring an Imperial Warparty into the city itself
storm jungle
Yeah their future leader Vect also did this
safe vigil
storm jungle
he stole a Salamanders battle-barge from realspace and let them wreck havoc on the upper spires of the city's central area
that coincidentally killed all the noble families
WHAT A TRAGEDY
Anyway after that he let them leave and usurped them to become the sole tyrant of the city
dusky scroll
Now a more... broader question, How big of a threat Necrons are compared to Orcs or Tyranids?
storm jungle
EXTREMELY deadly
Necrons got tech that is basically magic to us
one Necron dynasty has a star map where if you click on a planet it just explodes lol
dusky scroll
Necrons got tech that is basically magic to us
How about compared to Eldars?
storm jungle
Still higher
Eldar are a post-scarcity society
Necrons in comparison mostly got all their tech unharmed
dusky scroll
Necrons in comparison mostly got all their tech unharmed
wdym unharmed? Eldar tech didn't survive the birth of sex god/dess?
storm jungle
Slaanesh is not a sex god
also its more that Eldar tech is already pretty advanced, its just not more destruction oriented like Necrons.
the most basic necron weaponry can kill tanks lol
dusky scroll
What's stopping them from making kebab out of rest of the factions then?
storm jungle
A lot of things
arctic talon
Eldar?
storm jungle
Necrons have dynasties
safe vigil
their dynasties are fractured
storm jungle
^
arctic talon
or Necrons
Necrons are an absolute clusterfuck of internal politics
they all hate each other
storm jungle
Most necrons have been asleep for millennia, time has not been kind to them
safe vigil
and it takes time to get them to agree to wake up and... then eventualyl wake up
arctic talon
and also they're eepy
Like most of the necron dynasties are like
under 1% operational rn
safe vigil
their ruling class is still harbouring grudges from the ancient era
storm jungle
Also yeah Necrons need these downsides otherwise they'd entirely wipe out the entire setting lol
storm jungle
yeah they are uh
oneo f the few factions that actively needs nerfing
otherwise they kill everything
lmao
safe vigil
Who wins
safe vigil
a Necron Death moon full of troopers or a SoB Celestian with a few Krak Grenades
safe vigil
ye
arctic talon
Necrons fully awakend would no diff every faction but Pre-fall eldar
arctic talon
and even then uh
safe vigil
Miriya
arctic talon
its not great lol
storm jungle
Yeah like uh
arctic talon
for the Eldar
storm jungle
the Imperium should be glad the Celestial Orrery
is under the wardenship of a good necron dynasty
lmao
dusky scroll
In that martial tech meter, where do Tau stand?
storm jungle
Tau are below Eldar and Necrons
but above the Imperium
they are pretty utopian techwise
arctic talon
in terms of average tech Tau > Imperium
in terms of peak of tech Imperium > tau
but Tau have widespread super high tech stuff
while in the Imeperium farmer blobimus is dying of dysentary
because there isn't plumbing on his planet
safe vigil
taht said I think their warp travel is under-devolped
arctic talon
Its functional now
storm jungle
its iffy
arctic talon
don't use too many at once
storm jungle
safe vigil
Right
dusky scroll
What's their (Tau) weakness then? Numbers?
jade holly
In other words
arctic talon
melee is a weakness for infantry if you can get to melee
but don't punch a battlesuit lol
arctic talon
they're the smallest faction in the setting bya long shot
jade holly
And then those guys get murdered by drones
Eh, we got numbers
You can’t shoot them all
storm jungle
Eh, we got numbers
jade holly
at least not fast enough
arctic talon
vast heart
What's their (Tau) weakness then? Numbers?
Think of them as a freshly sprouted seed, would take absolutely minimal effort for any other faction to stomp them out of existence, but the act of stomping them would leave their back turned to a real threat
storm jungle
Tau also suffer from the fact that in a realistic war they'd absolutely beat the Imperium but your WW2 tactics somehow always become superior
because dumbass writers
arctic talon
Tau also are like
way too hard to properly remove as well
you have to put enough effort in you're fucked elsewhere
dusky scroll
So, basically Human are just more civilized Orcs in a galaxy full of High-tech Aliens with population issues (of varying degree)?
jade holly
Yeah the Tau, if they’re being smart, will almost always sit back and keep zoning out troops with their superior firepower and agile battle suits
they have no reason to charge headlong into a fight
arctic talon
So, basically Human are just more civilized Orcs in a galaxy full of High-tech A...
calling a Human in 40k a fantasy orc is an insult to fantasy orcs
in terms of how racist they are
and in terms of how violent they are
storm jungle
LMAO
jade holly
Humanity is nothing more than a cautionary tale of how horrible we can become when driven to our most extreme to survive
arctic talon
Like Humanity in 40k
vast heart
So, basically Human are just more civilized Orcs in a galaxy full of High-tech A...
Yeah kinda, ironically enough you could argue that Ork's and Necrons are better at representing something we can find relatable as humanity than most of the imperium
dusky scroll
Yeah... but 40k Orcs are not as mellow as regular orcs either...
jade holly
It’s meant to show not only the horror but pure stubbornness and skill of how we can survive against all odds
jade holly
40k Orks are fucking bonkers
dusky scroll
And the biggest factor that favors the Imperium for survival is the number?
storm jungle
And plot armor
jade holly
That and their pure stubbornness
and plot armor too I guess
But mainly the stubbornness
arctic talon
Number, stubborness, plot armor
safe vigil
plot supported birth rates
storm jungle
realistically speaking the Imperium would have collapsed without Big E years after the Horus Heresy
arctic talon
yeah
storm jungle
arctic talon
lol
jade holly
And let’s be honest here none of the factions would really be doing good right now besides maybe the nids, Chaos and the Necrons
dusky scroll
Wow... it almost sounds like the Imperium won't be that much better off even if the Emperor revived.
storm jungle
I maen yeah they wont
storm jungle
Jim you are way too smart for your own good just gonna put that out there
most newcomers cant even make these correct assumptions
jade holly
I think the idea is to show the Imperium as the underdogs?
arctic talon
nah
vast heart
Make anathema
jade holly
they're never the under dogs
Like they were supposed to be shown as that but GW made them the protagonists cause humans
vast heart
Fucking do something with chaos please you've been moving pawns up the board for two decades make something happen goddamnit
arctic talon
individually or in a battle they might be but the imperium is meant to be this decaying siezure having hulk
safe vigil
the average human is an under dog
the levithan military industrial complex of the Imperium is not
well, as a whole
jade holly
What faction would y’all say is doing the best off atm?
arctic talon
Necrons by far
arctic talon
mostly since big daddy Sezerak just came home
safe vigil
isolate a single system ad throw any threat at it and sure you got an under dog fit for a glorious last stand
vast heart
What faction would y’all say is doing the best off atm?
Chaos did just catch their first dub in ages but they're just gonna fuck it up when they use Corvus or Russs to undo it and sell minis
jade holly
What was their dub?
queen laurel
yeah the Imperium survives because money
brother if i become a military general, even I who is a dumbass can give significant damage to the imperium, I think the only time they will stop me is when they pull out some ******** super weapon from out of nowhere because plot
arctic talon
Chaos did just catch their first dub in ages but they're just gonna fuck it up w...
Chaos has been winning for all of 8 and 9e
so
vast heart
Warhammer needs to start killing off major characters again it feels disney-tier safe writing wise I am so far removed from the feeling of "Oh man I'm not even sure if this main character is gonna make it to the end of the chapter"
arctic talon
I doubt Gw are going to make them get their shit stomped completely
Warhammer never kills major characters
like
ever
Like thats a constant
dusky scroll
Warhammer never kills major characters
Horus?
arctic talon
it took Endtimes for Fantasy to start killing off characters
vast heart
Chaos has been winning for all of 8 and 9e
Not really, they just undo it all to make an imperium character look cool so you end up walking back and forth over the same tile on the game board
safe vigil
Horus was always dead
arctic talon
Not really, they just undo it all to make an imperium character look cool so you...
except they haven't
Like
Chaos is absolutely beating the imperiums ass rn
queen laurel
Horus?
he really doesn't count i mean they straight up just kill a character because they have no use for it
There have been characters here who aren't even good that have been here for too long
safe vigil
Horus is also mega dead
queen laurel
Horus is also mega dead
I'm talking levels of if you try to reassemble him you're going to make a new guy because his soul was annihilated type dead
dusky scroll
I have a question about Horus Heresy, He led his Space Marines into battle against the loyalists and the emperor. But how did Traitor guard and Dark Mechanicum came to be? Were they also convinced by Horus to fight for them?
queen laurel
I have a question about Horus Heresy, He led his Space Marines into battle again...
The classic case of disillusionment
Chaos gives them an offer and they accepted
safe vigil
Guard were angry because of the great crusade being so brutal and probably seeing it more like a Civil War
Dark Mechanicum wanted to lift the restrictions the stopped them from going complete mad scientist
well, it was the Imperial Army and other protectorates of the Imperium
The institution of the Army would be split by Guilliman into Guard and Navy
queen laurel
Dark Mechanicum wanted to lift the restrictions the stopped them from going comp...
This one really makes me wonder what the emperor was thinking innovating is literally one of the things you need to keep a civilization together
safe vigil
More interesting setting
queen laurel
The old things can only keep up with the ever changing Galaxy for so long
jade holly
Honestly, as much as the Space Marines are neat on a surface level, I think the other parts of the Imperium are cooler
Like the Inquisitions
queen laurel
Honestly, as much as the Space Marines are neat on a surface level, I think the ...
100% i prefer the imperial guard
jade holly
Aka the 40k equivalent to The Suicide Squad
queen laurel
They may have not the best equipment and stuff
queen laurel
but if they pull out the W just it's extra special
jade holly
The Imperial Guard are where the true stubbornness and determination of humanity shines imo
safe vigil
they allow for different stories to be told
Space Marines are more like Greek demi-gods.
jade holly
Space Marines are fun from a mythological standpoint
safe vigil
Whilst Guard is your boots on the ground ww2 militrary fiction
jade holly
And also SMs can get hella wacky
But sometimes the wackiness of the legions and chapters are the fun parts
queen laurel
Whilst Guard is your boots on the ground ww2 militrary fiction
To be fair they also mix in other types of military tactics not just world war 2
jade holly
To be fair they also mix in other types of military tactics not just world war 2
Like how the Death Korps are pure WW1
queen laurel
Like how the Death Korps are pure WW1
We don't talk about that one
jade holly
Down to Trench Warfare and running headlong over No Man’s Land
jade holly
We don't talk about that one
Why not?
queen laurel
Down to Trench Warfare and running headlong over No Man’s Land
they don't even use trench warfare
safe vigil
sure
queen laurel
They favour infantry shock assaults and artillery
dusky scroll
Do they actually use cavalry? Is it found to be effective?
jade holly
They favour infantry shock assaults and artillery
So Blitkrieg which was essentially trench warfare strategies outside of a Trench
queen laurel
Do they actually use cavalry? Is it found to be effective?
Considering that cavalry can be effective for shock attacks yeah
jade holly
bombard the enemy then make a mad dash for them
queen laurel
So Blitkrieg which was essentially trench warfare strategies outside of a Trench
that's the specialty of the armageddon steel legion
safe vigil
Armaggedeon Steel Legion is more so Blitzkrieg with their Chimera transports
I do like me the Steel Legion
dusky scroll
There was this... animated video in youtube where they fought against a group of traitor guard and a couple of chaos marine. The cavalry charge was awesome!
safe vigil
I should read Yarrick because I know little about their unique culture
queen laurel
Do they actually use cavalry? Is it found to be effective?
Also the horses they using will literally eat meat and literally have so many cybernetic implants that they can survive a good amount of damage
jade holly
Also the horses they using will literally eat meat and literally have so many cy...
Ah yes, robo horse
safe vigil
Yarrick died of old age until they reveal he didn't
queen laurel
Armaggedeon Steel Legion is more so Blitzkrieg with their Chimera transports
Yeah mechanize infantry is the name of the game with this one
jade holly
You know what group I’m surprised GW hadn’t taken inspiration from to make Imperial Guard or SM designs?
The Winged Hussars of Poland
queen laurel
They will overwhelm a position with so many transport vehicles containing infantry that they will take it
while having armored support for those transport vehicles
safe vigil
I think the Vostryan's could do something like that
fits under their umbrella of inspiration cultures
jade holly
Those guys look like a mix of the British Royal Guard and Russian winter clothing more than anything
broken zealot
Lorgharh
jade holly
So Eastern European
safe vigil
yuh
specifically Russian Stretylize
can't spell it
Ian Arbritator has a video on the realworld inspirations of the guard
dusky scroll
After the heresy, afaik Space Marine Legions were broken into chapters, each containing 1000 marines.
So, when Guilliman returned, what happened to that structure for the chapters that were successor to Ultramarines? Did they just merged and formed the Ultramarine Legion again?
safe vigil
Nah
it was his idea to break them up in the first place
Their probably happier he's back and more willing to follow his orders
also I would think that reforming the Ultramarine Legion would be a bad move politically, considering 50 percent of all Chapters are Ultramainres (I heard this somewhere)
in their Chapter formations their more able to act independently
dusky scroll
All the chapters that were fragments of Ultramarines, Do Guilliman just command them separately now?
dusky scroll
So if he wants to lead into a battle or something, he'll have to call upon nearby chapters that are available (not preoccupied) and hope that the chapter master responds to his call?
safe vigil
probably, but I think he's all but incharge of the Ultramarines
THeir successors, he's literally their dad and would be more then happy
and given the scale of the conflicts it's more like 'X chapter go here and do this, Y chapter over there and pursue this goal' as part of the Indomitius Crusade
He is also the leader or something or the Imperium so he can also give orders to other chapters
but they aren't as beholden too him as each chapter is it's own independant war machine beholden to their own goals who offer their services where-ever they see fit
but with the great rift the proverbial backs are against the wall
dusky scroll
Given the Lion has returned as well, did it cause any friction between the two living loyalist primarch? What he (Lion) has been doing since his return?
safe vigil
One would think there would be some conflict but his return is rather recent and I don't think there has been any further lore
tough haven
Given the Lion has returned as well, did it cause any friction between the two l...
The lions pretty much just been fucking shit up in the imperium nihilus
Or whatever the darker part is caked
safe vigil
Ah yeah their spit by the great rift
tough haven
Would codex compliant space marines fire on their own units if they are in the area hostiles are in as well?
I bet they probably would if it was militarum units
But with fellow astartes I doubt they would unless it was hugely worthwhile, eg. Taking out a very high value target
safe vigil
some marines are bigger dicks then others
add in the harsh realities of warsh stuff
I know that... in the Guard the Scintillian Fusilliers are known for shelling other regiments positions
dusky scroll
Wow... took me some time to get the basic understanding of what Imperium Nihilus is!
tough haven
I mean like, does the codex forbid it, and certain chapters violate it? Or does it just say basically “use your own discretion”
grave sparrow
sounds efficient though, feed your warhorse with the corpses of your enemies (and likely own dead troops)
green loom
Would codex compliant space marines fire on their own units if they are in the a...
Depends entirely on what they're like
green loom
So if he wants to lead into a battle or something, he'll have to call upon nearb...
He grabs anyone, he's Regent of the Imperium, so functionally Emperor currently
The Ultramarines proper are still led by Calgar
Larger formations of chapters aren't uncommon rn, but any that get established from the Unnumbered Sons tend to fulfill the same purpose as chapters did before, so they operate by the same rules
green loom
I mean like, does the codex forbid it, and certain chapters violate it? Or does ...
It probably doesn't
Provided it's worth it/you're willing to risk it
tough haven
In one of the tau books it quotes a part of the codex related to civilian casualties but I didnt know if that extended to your own soldiers
green loom
We know marines like the Malevolent are willing to shell that way, and it's entirely possible a lot of others would do the same
It helps the sallies were going into a slaughter they had no real chance of stopping anyway
green loom
Not really, seems fairly standard looking
safe vigil
i dont think so. only a passing resemblance
crystal zealot
Were the "Primarchs", the emperors children, birthed normally? Or did he "create" them? Also how many are they?
normal light
Were the "Primarchs", the emperors children, birthed normally? Or did he "create...
Primarchs were created
Emperors Children made as any other space marines via modification of a human
crystal zealot
So they were birhted like a normal human then got modified?
normal light
So they were birhted like a normal human then got modified?
Yes
Like you get human child and then modify it
median marsh
Primarchs were personally engineered by emps, there's 20 of them total including the two striken from records
coarse pumice
Were the "Primarchs", the emperors children, birthed normally? Or did he "create...
Only Fulgrim is Emperors Children
Of the primarchs
median marsh
Their creation was way different than space Marines created from em later
coarse pumice
Technically they’re based on him
green loom
Were the "Primarchs", the emperors children, birthed normally? Or did he "create...
The Primarchs were all made in tubes
It's somewhat a stretch to consider them humans
median marsh
Yeah, they look human but are pretty far from an average person
wet sandal
Frankly the primarchs are slightly less human than the emperor
median marsh
iirc there was also warp fuckery involved
wet sandal
He was at least "born"
crystal zealot
Their creation was way different than space Marines created from em later
If i understood correctly, space marines were created 'from' the primarchs?
Did they like, take a sample sperm or just dna?
green loom
They use something called Geneseed, (made from the primarchs' genetic material iirc), along with a shit ton of drugs and extra organs to buff up regular humans
median marsh
Genetic samples
Each primarchs DNA was used as a base for geneseed used for their respective legions essentially
median marsh
2 of them are unknown as they were completely eradicated from all records
crystal zealot
So they're not from the emperors sperm but his genes directly?
crystal zealot
Do they have his warp prowess? Or are they physically strong only?
green loom
Magnus had the most prolific psyker bs
But it seems they all had some untapped psychic potential
crystal zealot
Are they prone to corruption as well?
I know the emperor can be, but his might is so strong that no demon can
that right?
crystal zealot
Oh xD
median marsh
They're probably immune to daemon possession due to their nature but they're not immune to corruption
crystal zealot
Is corruption just a change of ideals and like, ones own volition ? Or is it also forced like a daemon posession?
median marsh
Some go willingly, others are forced into it
green loom
Is corruption just a change of ideals and like, ones own volition ? Or is it als...
Both
green loom
They're *probably* immune to daemon possession due to their nature but they're n...
Fulgrim was possessed for a bit
median marsh
Oh ye
crisp heath
The emperor basically did Erda super dirty
She was devoted to and fawned over him for centuries
green loom
Unfortunately Emps was already dating Malcador
crisp heath
Then he hit her with "hey wanna have kids? Specifically 21. Great, give me a DNA sample. What? No, you can't raise them."
crystal zealot
Then he hit her with "hey wanna have kids? Specifically 21. Great, give me a DNA...
lmao
plush mason
nah. the twins wherent planned to be twins afaik :P
crystal zealot
So they didn't even intercourse
plush mason
nope
crisp heath
The emperor is gay
green loom
Probably
crystal zealot
for who xD
plush mason
for big men with bodies like greek gods
crisp heath
He had two boyfriends, an old wizard and a buff guy he kidnapped as a baby
median marsh
tfw still not really sure how I feel about the whole erda thing
crystal zealot
So emperor is a fan of ogryns?
plush mason
He had two boyfriends, an old wizard and a buff guy he kidnapped as a baby
Malk was just his bro and frankly the real brains of the whole operation
crystal zealot
Malk was just his bro and frankly the real brains of the whole operation
Is malk the wizard?
plush mason
yes
green loom
So emperor is a fan of ogryns?
He probably hated them considering how hard he was into eugenics
plush mason
Is malk the wizard?
Malcador
crisp heath
I'll give you that the Emperor might not have been in love with Malcador, but Malcador was definitely in love with the emperor
crisp heath
He probably hated them considering how hard he was into eugenics
I think Emps would probably be down with abhumans. They're still human and he did abolish racism among human nations.
green loom
But yeah surrounding yourself with muscular monsters with oiled bodies who can't disobey you, it kinda shines through a certain way
plush mason
I'll give you that the Emperor might not have been in love with Malcador, but Ma...
ngl i can see that, because i doubt he was able to put up with the emperor's main dumbass ideas just out of practicality
green loom
I think Emps would probably be down with abhumans. They're still human and he di...
He wanted to restore the holy human form or some bs per recent stuff, so prolly not
crisp heath
There's literally a short story where the Emperor makes Malcador sob openly by telling him he was just a pawn
green loom
Akakaka
crisp heath
And Malcador refuses to believe him but is just demolished anyway
crystal zealot
So the Emperor cares more about the big picture rather than an individuals feelings?
plush mason
He wanted to restore the holy human form or some bs per recent stuff, so prolly ...
the fact it says "holy" makes me assume its all bullshit lol
green loom
He cares about his vision
crisp heath
Oh absolutely, Emperor is mainly written as a sociopath these days
Nothing matters but the plan
plush mason
the emperor in life hated all forms of faith
green loom
the fact it says "holy" makes me assume its all bullshit lol
It's not the wording used, but his entire thing is saving the human genome
plush mason
yeah that is in line with the imperial truth
green loom
His old title pre Emp days was "The Master of the Lines"
plush mason
save the human genome, spread humanity across the stars
green loom
As in, blood lines, not "spitting bars" lines
queen laurel
There's literally a short story where the Emperor makes Malcador sob openly by t...
damn he really is a scumbag
plush mason
His old title pre Emp days was "The Master of the Lines"
neat, i only know of his title "the lord of lighting" from that time
crystal zealot
Isnt spreading humanity further increases the potential of the warp?
plush mason
yes
crystal zealot
Is this like the emperors long con to get the warp to birth a demon lord or something? xD
plush mason
the emperor was a mess of contradictory views and actions
green loom
That's one theory yeah
plush mason
"the last church" is a great showing of just how BS his ideas where
median marsh
Emps in general is difficult because he was existing as basically a plot device
green loom
I've never dug into last church but I hear it's like
A 5 year old's idea of an argument
coarse pumice
They should rewrite the Emperor like the old story and then scrap the entire HH series
Give it the Inquisitor Wars treatment
do it
Touch the cow
Do it now
crystal zealot
i might tip it
crystal zealot
They should rewrite the Emperor like the old story and then scrap the entire HH ...
whats hh
normal light
Horus Heresy?
plush mason
basically the heresy is the event that made the imperium the cess pit it is today
median marsh
My man got literally eradicated from existence
coarse pumice
It’s time to return what was borrowed
median marsh
Soul obliterated
normal light
Horus Heresy?
Message got late because of bad internet
plush mason
My man got literally eradicated from existence
an unironic act of mercy as the chaos gods controlled his soul and would have made him a slave after death
it also prevented them from bringing him back to life
normal light
It’s time to return what was borrowed
Return of Primarchs?
median marsh
I like to think that Horus realized what he did as he was getting annihilated and felt regret
plush mason
he realized it before that happened afaik
normal light
it also prevented them from bringing him back to life
Emp Children tried to make a clone of him
plush mason
I like to think that Horus realized what he did as he was getting annihilated an...
he died crying and begging for forgiveness but it was too late
normal light
Emp Children tried to make a clone of him
But Abaddon despoiled them out of existence
plush mason
Emp Children tried to make a clone of him
and failed because it lacked his soul and thus had none of Horus' power
median marsh
Fabius grew a new Horus but Abaddon was having none of that
It wasn't truly Horus yeah
Horus got completely wiped out of reality, not a trace so that chaos gods couldn't pull a "lol, lmao" and just resurrect him like Lucius
plush mason
yup
normal light
Also is a 13th Black Crusade was won by either side?
normal light
Also is a 13th Black Crusade was won by either side?
Like Chaos expanded a Great Rift a lot
normal light
Like Chaos expanded a Great Rift a lot
But lost also a lot of ships and other assets
median marsh
Technically a chaos victory
It's hard to say if it's pyrrhic because the entire galaxy did get torn in half letting chaos have a way easier access into, but some irreplaceable things were also lost, such as a Blackstone fortress
normal light
Nah , I am planning to rewrite my chaos Warband which splinted away from Black Legion because high casualties
crystal zealot
Is there a wolf like creature in wh40k?
celest dome
Yes, plenty, THunderwolves for the Space Wolf
normal light
Is there a wolf like creature in wh40k?
There are default wolfs
celest dome
Wirewolf for Chaos
normal light
Also Space Wolfs (Astartes Chapter)
crystal zealot
psyker said she had a dream of a wolf like creature that had a mind of its own. Is it just a random voice line or is it connected to something?
median marsh
Might be, might be not, Psykers have been getting a lot of interesting tibids such as the sister hive pop actually being still alive
Or Zolas growing unease
The most direct connection I can make (based only on name lul) is Captain Wolfer
The guy from prologue and who now talks to you occasionally
crystal zealot
What about the veterans dream?
He dreamt his teeth fell off and laughed at him
He also called them karkers
crystal zealot
Might be, might be not, Psykers have been getting a lot of interesting tibids su...
Is pop the hives name?
median marsh
Pop is short for Population
median marsh
He dreamt his teeth fell off and laughed at him
Just a weird dream, Psyker dreams on other hand tend to be foreshadowing of events due to their nature
crisp heath
He dreamt his teeth fell off and laughed at him
Teeth falling out and being laughed at are 2 of the most common types of dream, I've had both
Just a little funny the team did mixing them up like that
There's an inquisitor who got plastic surgery to turn him into a horse
green loom
Is this the same inquisitor that's in Gaunts Ghosts 1?
In theory
Though apparently felinids are pretty much just humans with claws
This is an observation made by Kroot, so there may be more differences not apparent to them
green loom
Abnettverse moment
Iirc Hyperion shows up in Eisenhorn before he becomes a grey knight
green loom
How did I not realize its the same guy
Is he similarly a dick in Eisenhorn?
crisp heath
Yeah Heldane fucking sucks
green loom
It's a good thing he gets 1-2d by Mkoll and Bragg
Or I forget who the 2nd guy was but Mkoll defo
normal light
psyker said she had a dream of a wolf like creature that had a mind of its own. ...
I said about it week ago or so
crisp heath
Vespids are wasp people
green loom
Not abhoomins doe
crisp heath
I was thinking specifically of furries and did not realize how broad this question was
Fulgrim is an animal person
bold latch
What are the lore of daemonhost of darktide?
this level of monstruosity is not supposed to be on board of warband's level missions
queen laurel
What are the lore of daemonhost of darktide?
A Daemonhost is a living mortal body used as a receptacle to bind a daemon, differing from a possessee in that the daemon does not possess or control the mortal, but is bound into it. The Daemonhost is used by another mortal
basically the dregs just offered a daemon a Body
hasty coral
I don’t think the victim is consenting though?
queen laurel
And the demon that's using the body is rather quite weak since our strike team is strong enough to take it down
hasty coral
The Daemon seems to take over
queen laurel
It can be consenting or non-consenting
Wasn't there literally a girl one time that her ego was so strong that the greater demons of slaanesh that tried to possess her literally died
hasty coral
Before the person is whispering about resisting and not being wicked
bold latch
yeah but is there any explanation to it being in lower-tier worlds and/or missions? since daemonhost are most seen in warfronts around the galaxy?
storm jungle
yeah but is there any explanation to it being in lower-tier worlds and/or missio...
Warfronts? No
crystal zealot
Just a little funny the team did mixing them up like that
I love those xD favorite is a psyker one. They say "So i've been thinking" and they get interrupted my ogryn saying "Yes psyker its good to think"
hasty coral
yeah but is there any explanation to it being in lower-tier worlds and/or missio...
That’s not true
storm jungle
daemonhosts can literally be made anywhere
queen laurel
yeah but is there any explanation to it being in lower-tier worlds and/or missio...
Dreg use the power of the demon to spread the corruption
hasty coral
Daemons can appear ANYWHERE
queen laurel
Some inquisitors even have them
hasty coral
That’s the point of them
queen laurel
those are radicals of course but
You can literally just live somewhere in the middle of a farm and if you wanted to you can summon a demon because why not
Who is going to stop you the imperium?
You already killed yourself the moment you wanted to try the summoning
crystal zealot
Full Daemon
I noticed even after they're awoken and attack us, they still say some of the lines. Like "You can't make me" Or "Get out of my head" .. Is it the person still kind of conscious? Or is it just the daemon saying the words the body used to say?
queen laurel
I noticed even after they're awoken and attack us, they still say some of the li...
considering that the person that they use are often still awake during the possession
yeah it's probably still the owner of the body trying her best to stop the demon
storm jungle
I noticed even after they're awoken and attack us, they still say some of the li...
They are sharing a human' body with a daemon, and having tanked daemonhosts the moment they become hostile they get giddy and constantly laugh
so its either just lucid thoughts shared by their host or just using it as bait
queen laurel
They are sharing a human' body with a daemon, and having tanked daemonhosts the ...
But there are cases in lore that people who got possessed by demons are strong enough to somewhat still control themselves while using the demonic power right
bold latch
I will suppose that the daemon is from nurgle's facction?
storm jungle
yes
queen laurel
I will suppose that the daemon is from nurgle's facction?
yep probably a lesser demon like a plague bearer
because a greater daemonhost would absolutely **** us up
crystal zealot
Does the demon itself look like that? Or is the daemonhost in the game just a human body with demonic features? Like the horns and the green stuff?
queen laurel
Does the demon itself look like that? Or is the daemonhost in the game just a hu...
no because nurgle demons look something like this
they look like me every time i wake up basically
crystal zealot
lmao
So the demon itself looks like those in the pic, and just the soul takes over basically?
crystal zealot
ooh
hasty coral
But same thing
queen laurel
So the demon itself looks like those in the pic, and just the soul takes over ba...
All demons are made-up of energy, so all the hanging guts that you see from a great unclean one, the body features of a keeper of secrets all of it are just their own design choices
Basically they just inhabit the body as what they are
concious energy
crystal zealot
What is a "Keeper of secrets" ?
hasty coral
Souls are a weird topic in 40k
storm jungle
What is a "Keeper of secrets" ?
Greater Demon of Slaanesh
hasty coral
Like they are super important but also like shouldn’t be?
storm jungle
hasty coral
Because the warp is consciousness based?
storm jungle
Souls are pretty important
crystal zealot
Is Slaanesh the big one and those around it are the greater demons?
storm jungle
Is Slaanesh the big one and those around it are the greater demons?
no Slaanesh is a god
the big one is the greater demon
hasty coral
Why can’t necrons manipulate it? Because they don’t have “souls” even though they can still think?
crystal zealot
the big one is the greater demon
Wow i dont wanna meet that
storm jungle
queen laurel
Is Slaanesh the big one and those around it are the greater demons?
no the big one is the keeper of secrets those tiny ones are daemonettes
storm jungle
prob one of the best GW models ever made ngl
storm jungle
idfk ask google
queen laurel
prob one of the best GW models ever made ngl
it looks weirdly out of place yet beautiful
Like you know something is wrong looking at it but you just can't take your eyes off of it
hasty coral
idfk ask google
Ok so just the general definition
storm jungle
Literally just your non-physical being
its like how you enter an astral state in fiction and become a ghost-like figure lol
queen laurel
Ok so just the general definition
hasty coral
Then why don’t Necrons have it but are still sentient?
storm jungle
because it was taken from them
queen laurel
Then why don’t Necrons have it but are still sentient?
They willingly sacrificed it
And only left their consciousness intact
hasty coral
But how can you lose your soul, but still think and have a consciousness, which is what the warp is about, but you somehow can’t connect to the warp anymore?
storm jungle
Then why don’t Necrons have it but are still sentient?
And because the noble necrons' consciousnesses were transported to their metal bodies during their transformation.
HOWEVER the biggest population of lower caste necrons lost their souls
its why most necrons are mindless robots serving the nobles
storm jungle
But how can you lose your soul, but still think and have a consciousness, which ...
its just space magic
dont think so hard about it
hasty coral
And because the noble necrons' consciousnesses were transported to their metal b...
Wait so some of them still have their souls?
hasty coral
Ok
storm jungle
only the elite ruling class
hasty coral
Nevermind that makes sense
storm jungle
because they got privelage
queen laurel
But how can you lose your soul, but still think and have a consciousness, which ...
i know you want to make sense but this is warhammer, I can literally pick up a gun and shoot gravity out of that shit
hasty coral
The ones who have no consciousness have no souls
storm jungle
if you were a lowborn necron though you got forcefully dragged to the bio-furnaces
crystal zealot
I assume everything we fight in the game currently is from Nurgles faction?
queen laurel
if you were a lowborn necron though you got forcefully dragged to the bio-furnac...
necrodermis is a fascinating material though
hasty coral
If you lose your soul you lose your “self”
hasty coral
necrodermis is a fascinating material though
How strong is it?
storm jungle
its "living metal"
queen laurel
How strong is it?
it literally regenerates even on an atomic level
storm jungle
pretty tough
bold latch
People is saying that we'll have genestealers added to the game soon enough
queen laurel
People is saying that we'll have genestealers added to the game soon enough
i mean yes they fit dark tide pretty well but kind of boring
I want other enemies
storm jungle
People is saying that we'll have genestealers added to the game soon enough
thats just dumb rumors and misinformation
dont trust everything you see from 40k content creators
bold latch
lorewise they would fit greatly since we're in hivecities
hasty coral
thats just dumb rumors and misinformation
Decent enough chance though
hasty coral
It’s just how FS does things
storm jungle
okay so program an entire enemy faction then
and make them unique from the base game enemies
that is a ton of work
hasty coral
FS did so for VT?
storm jungle
storm jungle
FS did so for VT?
VT is more basic
hasty coral
Winds of magic???
storm jungle
Darktide has a much more complex enemy pool
queen laurel
and make them unique from the base game enemies
Do you have any idea how many of the base enemies we have right now overlaps with the gene stealers
hasty coral
Yeah
storm jungle
pretty much this ye
hasty coral
It’s not THAT much effort lol
queen laurel
How do you make a aberrant that different from an ogryn
they basically serve the same purpose
bold latch
then what would be your guess to next facction?
storm jungle
We literally got no idea lol
crystal zealot
IF genestealers were to be added, what level would they be at? like elite or a monstrosity?
bold latch
XD
hasty coral
If we are getting a new one
storm jungle
the game is pretty chaos focused atm
hasty coral
That’s what you would get
queen laurel
the game is pretty chaos focused atm
yeah i want khorne
hasty coral
the game is pretty chaos focused atm
So was VT
queen laurel
just bull rushing us with melee weapons
hasty coral
Hell it was Skaven focused
median marsh
What did I come back to
storm jungle
yall really got no idea how hard it is to program and design an entire enemy faction with so many variants from the groundup without making them reskins
hasty coral
VT's engine is more simple lol
That doesn’t mean they won’t put in effort
Although
FS has a track record
queen laurel
What did I come back to
talked about demons then we decided to jump off the cliff what dark tide enemy faction should be next
storm jungle
That doesn’t mean they won’t put in effort
they kinda need to fix the game a bit more for anything like this first and foremost
bold latch
I love tyranids but warband's wouldn't tank it lol
hasty coral
Beasts of nurgle aren’t really tankable either to be fair
queen laurel
I love tyranids but warband's wouldn't tank it lol
genestealers we can manage
bold latch
lessers tyranids >> lesser nurgle's plague bearers
queen laurel
the actual tyranids not a chance
median marsh
GSC can work, a full Tyranid swarm can't unless you do some stupid nerfs like making it a single splinter hive ship desperately trying to rebuild
hasty coral
GSC can work, a full Tyranid swarm can't unless you do some stupid nerfs like ma...
Just use a door lol
median marsh
Wut
hasty coral
Infinite conveyer belt
Me when the 10 billion tyranids can’t all get by a single door
storm jungle
just be sure to spam it when they try to open it
median marsh
It's obligated to stay outside unless invited in 4head
bold latch
It is what I'm saying, even if it is Behemot HiveShip (arguibly the weakest after ultramarines taking its advance down) would be stronger than any enemy on actual game
queen laurel
That game you can just close the door and even a literal patriarch can't open it
i'm talking this guy is the size of a ******* hive tyrant
hasty coral
It is what I'm saying, even if it is Behemot HiveShip (arguibly the weakest afte...
It’s a fucking spaceship
median marsh
I know I saw em
bold latch
I mean, the tyranids of behemot hiveship, not the spaceship itself
hasty coral
it's a warhammer 40K deathwing reference
It’s actually a Darktide reference too
Enemies can’t open some doors
median marsh
you can kill things by closing the door on them
bold latch
They could just add another daemon facction just with the fight between them
lesser orks would fit greatly to the power level of game won't lie
queen laurel
lesser orks would fit greatly to the power level of game won't lie
brother even feral orks would be a challenge
median marsh
we had this discussion, orks would require levels tailored specifically for them to work
queen laurel
You have to seriously nerf them I mean for them to even fit this game
median marsh
boys are big
queen laurel
boys are *big*
Yeah the smallest ones are 6 foot
nobs are 7-8
Basically the size of a space marine
and a warboss is 10 fucking feet on AVERAGE
median marsh
it's already a bit awkward with the crusher trains
queen laurel
it's already a bit awkward with the crusher trains <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906...
Even feral ork meks are smart enough to create steam motherfuckin gargants
So you have to do some serious nerfing to get them to fit on dark tide
green loom
yall really got no idea how hard it is to program and design an entire enemy fac...
I saw some guy asking for an update every month with new maps and weapons
median marsh
I feel like I rain on peoples parade when they want new factions, but it's an immense amount of work
queen laurel
I feel like I rain on peoples parade when they want new factions, but it's an im...
Yeah finding a way to make the gene stealer cults different than the base faction with how many ******** overlaps is going to be something
green loom
FS did so for VT?
In a massive DLC that wasn't too well received from memory
For Darktide
You'd have to model an entire new faction
median marsh
Winds of Magic got demolished when it came out
green loom
Balance said entire new faction
Animate said entire new faction
Voice said entire new faction
median marsh
Make sure they work properly for maps
green loom
Play test said.... you get the idea
sleek wigeon
yup
should stick with the scabs and 6th but just add some new enemies
median marsh
I can see them adding new things down the line, just not anywhere in near future
green loom
And not before we wrap up more stuff with the scabs and dregs
And definitely not a year after launch
sleek wigeon
I can see them adding new things down the line, just not anywhere in near future
I reckon we'll get Nurglings as the first new special
they could mostly be recycled from vt2, it'd be relatively easy
green loom
God I'd hate that
Why do people hate themselves like this
I hate myself and I still don't want nurglings
median marsh
Nurglings exist in V2 (in form of level decorations for event)
queen laurel
And not before we wrap up more stuff with the scabs and dregs
i find dregs and scabs as amazing enemies sure fighting them over and over again can be a bit stale but the personality on their voice lines the way they move on animations it's ******* perfect
median marsh
I lowkey expected them to be ported over for same purpose
queen laurel
Imagine having to do that again and having the same quality for another faction
median marsh
Dreg gunner emulating his gun recoil with his voice lines is top notch
queen laurel
Dregs and scabs are quite the faction standard to reach
median marsh
No I meant the VA
green loom
Ah
median marsh
VA really did put their all in their stuff, it's great
queen laurel
VA really did put their all in their stuff, it's great
yeah yeah even my least favorite voices in the game I still admit are ******* amazing
storm jungle
The dreg gunner VA is fucking peak
sleek wigeon
yeah the VA team killed it
storm jungle
I DO NOT FEAR DEAAAAAAAAAAATH
sleek wigeon
The dreg gunner VA is fucking peak
flamer tho
median marsh
EAAT IIIIIIIT
storm jungle
flamer tho
WANT EM CRISPY?
queen laurel
**I DO NOT FEAR DEAAAAAAAAAAATH**
get stoned with a ******* rock
median marsh
flamers mobile bbq
Tfw according to stats there were 4,2 million rocks thrown
Ogryns doing us proud
queen laurel
flamers mobile bbq
the Brawler dialogue saying
" greenfire is not good for cooking nosh"
When fighting the tox flamer is ******* good
sleek wigeon
FIRE, DEATH, RENEWAL
median marsh
I like that dregs and scabs have very different personalities
median marsh
Dregs, being the cult, are more spiritual in their lines while scabs are tactical
median marsh
Mable sure fell on hard times huh
median marsh
ILL SELL YOU DOWN THEUAGH
green loom
I wonder if we can find out who did the flamer voice
queen laurel
Mable from Gravity Falls to me
How?
urban spire
it's funny, trapper is like a less cruel hook rat
green loom
How? <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
Have you heard her VA?
sleek wigeon
my fave voice ever has to go to Bully Ogryn though
queen laurel
Have you heard her VA?
yeah and i don't see the resemblance
they don't sound that similar
queen laurel
Vague lisp that makes me think of it
Yeah that's probably it even though I don't know what the **** you're talking about