40k-lore-chat

[arctic talon]

Weird

[urban spire]

yeah war spheres or something

they made them by eating ork big meks

it is funny that the kroot have better warp travel than the tau

[thick cedar]

How the fuck does anyone fall to chaos unironically? Who looks at a Nurgle worshipper whos basically a walking corpse with maggots all over him and goes "Yeah, this guy seems like he knows what hes talking about"

[normal light]

Well it works like this

[arctic talon]

It’s not willing sometimes, sometimes the only way out is chaos, and often times it starts off benign

[normal light]

For example Nurgle needs from you to be broken down

Slaanesh is for something that you crave

Tzeentch maybe involuntary

[arctic talon]

Also if you’re super depressed

[normal light]

Khorne is bloodthirsty

[arctic talon]

Nurgle will prolly corrupt you

Apathetic people

Pessimists

Ect.

[storm jungle]

Because the Imperium is a literal living hell and people choose any way to escape they can get.

Its a slippery slope, its genuinely not that complicated

[green loom]

And usually

The immediate downsides are kept from you

They just promise you power

And an escape

[normal light]

Most of traitors usually go rogue before corruption

[arctic talon]

Also yeah it’s usually way too late lol

By the time you get corrupted

[green loom]

Desperation, lack of options

[arctic talon]

You’re too deep in

[normal light]

Slaanesh followers will take this phrase differently

[storm jungle]

shut up

[normal light]

Okay

💀

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

Clearly he’s talking about the daemons ripping your muscles out and turning it into a harp

[storm jungle]

💀

[normal light]

Of course

Wait Codex Astartes is a book?

[keen stratus]

Just look at this and think for a second of why (dilara and elitewolf shut the fuck up)

[keen stratus]

yeah, its like the art of war, in the warhammer universe

[arctic talon]

That guy is about to get horrifically murdered

[normal light]

It exists in one example?

[storm jungle]

Im still here numbskull lol

[arctic talon]

Her fingers are literally under his skin

[arctic talon]

It’s a book written by Gulliman

About how to run a chapter

Tactics

Ect.

[normal light]

I know

[storm jungle]

Yeah its a literal "How to run a Chapter and what tactics to employ for Dummies"

[normal light]

Is there only one example of it?

[storm jungle]

been in lore for years

[keen stratus]

(i know, but im trying to get this guy into slaanesh, and youre always an imperial killjoy)

[crisp heath]

You fell to Nurgle because you fear death and wish to be freed from pain even as your body rots. I fell to Nurgle because it looks cool and I can now projectile vomit hydrochloric acid. We are not the same.

[storm jungle]

Probably act like a normal person and I won't be

[forest orbit]

^

you and your slaanesh coomer shit is about as annoying

[keen stratus]

My sweet sweet mod, i ain't normal, im far gone now

that normality you say

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/beer-dog-beer-gif-25345472

[keen stratus]

has leaved me way back before the twilight

[normal light]

I fell to Nurgle because we have some things in common

[crisp heath]

Also not every chapter has the same version of the Codex Astartes, which I think people overlook

[arctic talon]

My rampent alcohol consumption will have me fall to slaanesh

[thick cedar]

I have a question about Tzeentch. Wouldnt he actively be making things better? I mean if everything is shitty and youre just making it various phases of shitty isnt that stagnation in a roundabout sense?

[crisp heath]

Some of these got the Emperor James version and some got the New Intergalactic Version

[storm jungle]

No because hes evil.

[keen stratus]

there we go, good boy

[arctic talon]

No because it’s different

[keen stratus]

my horniness will in my case

[arctic talon]

I’m going to drown you in alcohol

[normal light]

I was asking about it because, is it possible that one Codex Astartes book will be acquired by Chaos?

[arctic talon]

Prolly lol

[crisp heath]

I mean they probably have a copy lmao

[arctic talon]

^

[keen stratus]

uhmmm harder

[arctic talon]

There’s more traitor marines with guillimans geneseed

[crisp heath]

Plenty of traitor marines are from after the heresy

[arctic talon]

Then traitor marines of any other kind

[forest orbit]

Its literally a manual

[crisp heath]

I mean that's just because Guilliman's geneseed is the default for making new marines

[forest orbit]

anyone can get it lol

[arctic talon]

Yeah

Just wanted to point out how it’s very likely there’s a ton of copies

That chaos has lol

[keen stratus]

so its like the bible then

[crisp heath]

If you found a new chapter or your geneseed needs replacing, they just default to ultramarine because it's the least fucked up lmao

[forest orbit]

no its just a book

💀

[keen stratus]

the bible is also just a book

[forest orbit]

god

[keen stratus]

that you can get everywhere

[forest orbit]

neat, not the same thing

[keen stratus]

(i know, im joking)

[forest orbit]

Im sure you were

lmao

[crisp heath]

Some chapters worship it literally, it says not to do that in the book though

[forest orbit]

the bible doesnt offer military tactics and stratagems so

minus cool quotes i guess

[keen stratus]

but it offers homophobia

[green loom]

Bible gets pretty wild

[keen stratus]

wich i think its a military tactic

[green loom]

From what I'm told

I can't actually be bothered to read it

[forest orbit]

Can you stop 💀

[crisp heath]

The Bible is probably one of the most fun books I've ever read tbh

[keen stratus]

after jesus died, its just a falloff, so many good characters get ruined

[keen stratus]

i know right

[crisp heath]

The phrase "drives like a maniac" derives from the Bible where a King of Judea is just booking it in a horse and carriage

Like this guy drove so poorly they identify him from miles away based purely off his driving

[forest orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/bender-futurama-neat-wow-gif-5744318

[keen stratus]

https://youtu.be/PQVkq0HJGWI?si=MsSqpJydD2d2dq-P

[arctic talon]

The Bible equivalent in 40K for the imperium is the Lecto Divinatus

Or something like that

[crisp heath]

The Monster Girl Encyclopedia

[keen stratus]

oh shit right

[crisp heath]

Borgar Book

[normal light]

Crap someone mentioned it

[keen stratus]

wasnt there an ilustration made by a disney animator of a battle sister reading a book about slaanesh?

[storm jungle]

no thats just fanart

[keen stratus]

yeah but

that exists

[storm jungle]

yeah

[storm jungle]

fanart is like that

[crisp heath]

I like how that guy took a bolt to the face and had time to grab at it to see if it's that bad

[forest orbit]

local discord user discovers people can point

[thick cedar]

the more i look at this picture the funnier it gets

[arctic talon]

[storm jungle]

90's 40k Art Moment

[thick cedar]

"ahh deary me! what travesty has befallen our fair hive!"

"fuck you people doing"

then you got this dude

[keen stratus]

Why does this guy has a flintlock gun?

[thick cedar]

and the fucking revolutionary over ehre

[keen stratus]

I WENT FIRST

[storm jungle]

because the Imperium is backwards

next question

[keen stratus]

can i be slaaneshi now?

[storm jungle]

I mean if you wanna get timed out sure

[normal light]

Oh look a walking onion

[winter vessel]

Does the Raven Guard have their own gene curse? Something about hearing the voices of the dead?

[storm jungle]

Yeah

you turn into a white guy

literally

[green loom]

Truly a grim fate

[winter vessel]

is it as bad as the red thirst?

[storm jungle]

you get black hair and your skin turns pale.

so you basically become an emo

[green loom]

You turn into an Elder Emo

[storm jungle]

id say both are tragic

[green loom]

I recently saw someone make an albino salamander to ship with their commissar

[storm jungle]

man

I hate warhammer

💀

[green loom]

It's definitely a choice

[arctic talon]

Hey if you’re black you turn grey

[winter vessel]

"Weakness is a Choice"

[crisp heath]

He owns a musket for home defense, like the God Emperor intended

[storm jungle]

an "albino salamander" is definitely going to the top of my 40k OC Mary Sue Chart

[arctic talon]

But being a raven guard

Steals your melanin

And usually makes your hair black

The same way being a blood angel turns your hair blonde normally with some exceptions

[winter vessel]

I used to call Corvus Corax Severus Snape

[storm jungle]

no

[arctic talon]

[thick cedar]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

more like

<REDACTED BY THE INQUISITION>

[green loom]

Do you want to see the image

It's nothing too bad

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

I’m terrified

[arctic talon]

[green loom]

I'll show in DMs

[storm jungle]

you can just post here lol

[green loom]

Nah I won't

[winter vessel]

typical

[normal light]

[arctic talon]

This is

One of the images of all time

[green loom]

Also listening to GG

Man the Tanith die a ton

Poor bastards

[jade holly]

After listening to the main song for Shootas, Blood and Teef one too many times

I think I have it cracked

It’s a fusion of Thrash with Death Metal vocals

Granted it is also heavier than Thrash

[rose thorn]

I wonder that chapter that is

[jade holly]

I just realized the Noise Marines are the epitome of the 80’s

Devoted to the chaos god of excess, pop rockstar outfits, wacky sci fi environment

[broken zealot]

So true

[wicked lion]

slaanesh is the final boss of "be gay do crime"

[versed ledge]

He/she/it really is

But far more fun

[jade holly]

I wouldn’t exactly say, capturing and torturing your victims to the extreme with unspeakable acts counts as “fun” but you do you

[keen stratus]

hey, everyone has their definition of fun

[nocturne crest]

Fun question: Is there any traitor legions or renegade space marine chapters that you think should be linked to a different chaos god or be chaos undivided?

For example, the Crimson Slaughter are listed as being chaos undivided. I feel like it would make much more sense if they were dedicated to Khornpop.

[hasty coral]

Well it’s complicated

Namely based on each god’s domains

Plural

So indulging in violence or torment could be Khrone and Slaanesh

Death causing could be Khrone or Nurgle

It’s not necessarily EVERY chaos god in chaos undivided factions but more that they don’t neatly fit into one

Again to the Chaos gods it doesn’t really matter

Like to Khrone blood is blood

To the other gods

Worship is worship

They LIKE devoted followers

[grave sparrow]

I feel like Tzeentch would have the least overlap with the other gods at least

[hasty coral]

But they certainly don’t care too much

[hasty coral]

Agreed

[grave sparrow]

Tzeentch is also arguably the most powerful of the chaos gods too, right? Like he could win the great game but doesn't because shit'd be boring

[hasty coral]

Imo nurgle

Entropy and life is too primordial

Nurgle is correct when he believe he can just wait

And win

[grave sparrow]

Oh yeah, I'm just guessing, I vaguely remembering hearing somewhere something about Tzeentch being the most dangerous/powerful or somethin

[viral halo]

It goes khorne, nurgle, tzeentch, slaneesh traditionally

Iirc

From strongest to weakest

[grave sparrow]

if they were in like a 1v1 duel or just in general?

[arctic talon]

Just in general

Rn the most powerful of the gods is khorne

As of end of 9e

Then Tzeentch, then nurgle

And slaanesh is at the very bottom because the great rift is not very conductive to feeding them

[grave sparrow]

How do they quantify power for the gods? Just based on galactic events?

[hasty coral]

Yes

[arctic talon]

The codex just gives a list and yes based on galactic events

[hasty coral]

Generally though Nurgle WILL win without being contested

[arctic talon]

slaanesh was on top for 2 editions

With 6 and 7e

And then nurgle was on top in 8e

Then during psychic awakening tzeentch was by far the strongest

Till every chaos god collectively decided to kick his ass

[grave sparrow]

So would like Slaanesh be the most powerful if the Dark Eldar became more prevalent I'm assuming?

[arctic talon]

They’re the most prevalent when conflict lulls

Which uh

Doesn’t happen very often lol

[grave sparrow]

Fair lol.

So which would've been most powerful during the HH? I'd assume Tzeentch or Khorne

[arctic talon]

Khorne

By far

Slaanesh was very strong during the great crusade

And early heresy

[grave sparrow]

wasn't it Nurgle that initially corrupted Horus though too lol

[arctic talon]

Unclear

[grave sparrow]

I mean he was most prevalent on Daven when Horus got the big stab with all the undead and whatnot

[arctic talon]

The knife was corrupted somehow

It’s likely it was nurgle

But the other gods absolutely forced them to share

[grave sparrow]

IIRC the knife was forged by the aliens that were part of the Interex civilization and they had some stupidly good understanding of the warp. The knife was in some museum and was treated like a weapon of mass destruction

then Erebus had to go and screw it all up 😦

[hasty coral]

Oh yeah mutants definitely need MORE health

10 rounds 80% damage mk5 ripper with maniac

Doesn’t die

Lol

Yup please buff their health fatshit, very fun

Just unlucky I guess

[grave sparrow]

Are they still gonna get smoked by ogryn grenades? I dunno if the rocks kill them or not, haven't used them yet

[hasty coral]

Probably not a direct box hit anymore no

Because again

They NEED that much health

Fatshark says so

Rocks won’t either

[grave sparrow]

That would be so disappointing if box didn't smoke mutants, that shit's way too satisfying

[hasty coral]

Health scaling is more than the box I think in next patch

[nocturne crest]

Another renegade chapter, the Brazen beasts, should be related to another god or chaos undivided due to their love of daemon engines.

[median marsh]

https://youtu.be/Edhm6vGj_cE?si=HQIzGehbrY7fy3_s

[vast heart]

Aight y'all

I just finished watching Pariah Nexus

What the fuck is up with the Cadian Guardsman that's cearly not there

[median marsh]

Hearing the effects of Walking Pox on late stage victims is pretty spooky in comparison to just reading what it does

[vast heart]

Bc it's the most obvious chaos corruption I've ever seen, but isn't the Pariah Nexus meant to be a complete no-go zone for chaos

So is this just garden variety PTSD hallucinations? or is there some supernatural/warp/necron tech element to it?

[vast heart]

Its only going to get worse now it's on console, lategame runs will just become stat checks with everyone stacking as much dps as mathematically possible into builds bc we can't expect controller shitters to turn around too much, so the only way to up difficulty will be more health and more damage on enemies

[celest dome]

PTSD of the Sister ?

[vast heart]

Yeah it's the only thing that makes sense I just remember sitting there the whole time like "The guardsmen is Tzeentch trying to trick her and get her to renounce her faith" and everything about it makes sense; but its the one place in the entire setting that explicitly can't happen, just felt weirdly like they were angling for the chaos thing but that's obviously not actually the case

Like I wanna clarify, if you interpret the Sister's struggle as if Khorne has a really strong grip on the sister and the Guardsman is Tzeentch trying to talk her out of going into full khornate corruption and siding with him instead; the whole thing still makes sense. But that's obviously not what ended up happening, I think I'm just salty that it strung me along for so long thinking it might be chaos but it literally can't be

[normal light]

Hallucinations

[urban spire]

gee i wonder who that could be

[median marsh]

Bob from accounting

[wet sandal]

That's actually me irl, took that photo yesterday

[plush mason]

yeah no, Bob is way to powerful for that

[urban spire]

wonder if squats being back means we'll get chaos squats

[echo vault]

I mean they mentioned chaos dwarfs in one of the old world articles so they have some vague interest in the concept especially since they got a dlc in total Warhammer

[urban spire]

i played chaos dwarfs in total warhammer, they're fun

fun mechanics

[median marsh]

production must never cease

[normal light]

I played them in WFB 9th edition (fans made)

Funny blunderbuss fire

@lunar harness

Write here

[lunar harness]

i know it's happened both ways in fluff. nids fled the death guard to avoid the diseases and the hyperadaptabilify overcame their plagues. its like they are both good at it so it's up to the writer

definitely either could win, but i think the thing that limits death guard in the setting is they are just a much smaller faction. psykers are terrifying but their capacity to just chain destroy hundreds of worlds is a lot less

tyranids have at least an equal ability to terraform the environment and spread disease/ injuries combined with infinite numbers, excellent troop replenishment, non warp dependent warp travel

i think the headcanon of tyranids are the strongest faction gives a lot more color to the stories involving them, because it makes the human resistance to it all the more engaging and tbh that's the thing thats most compelling about the setting

everything humans do should more or less be a series of "last stands" against a much stronger enemy

[median marsh]

GW sorta wrote themselves into a corner with Nids because the way they're written makes them literally unbeatable long term if the "main body" still didn't get here

[green loom]

Guys they finally got the point

[median marsh]

I fukin love bug boys but god is their writing odd

[lunar harness]

i think its just written that way so that the imperium can win wars against them and not have them out completely

like there is always another hive fleet coming once one is beaten/ diverted/ made too small to be a major threat

[green loom]

Because there is always new threats coming

The Imperium is a dying empire in its final death throes

[celest dome]

Plenty of forces are set as "In the end, they will destroy everything and themselves"

[normal light]

I think nids could be balanced VIA saying that they cannot traverse long distances in Space without a lot sustenance

[lunar harness]

i think the threat of unchecked nid consumption is good for the setting

they don't need to be balanced

asymmetry is the heart of 40k for me

[silent gazelle]

Agreed! It's more engaging with the overwhelming odds

[fallen summit]

I do not care for the way current tau lore is written

[jade holly]

I don’t care for the Tau in general

Not my style

[fallen summit]

That's fair, they cater to a different sci-fi aesthetic entirely

[storm jungle]

Grimm you are the same dude that says Alpha Legion dont look 40k 💀

[jade holly]

I have my tastes

[storm jungle]

[lunar harness]

i really like current tau. them getting absolutely bodied by everyone is great because it takes the insane scale of destruction and makes it more personal

when they tau lose trillions it matters way more than the imperium

[jade holly]

Also I just kinda don’t like the Alpha Legion in general

[queen laurel]

They have the ability to punch above their weight scale but the other factions if they actually put in work can actually overwhelm them

[jade holly]

Poorly written and the overall aesthetic of them ain’t my cup of tea

[fallen summit]

My issue is they've been brought from an interesting questioning of socialist societies, like the disconnect in the ethreals and the common tau in both ideals and goals, and imperialism to a just kind of bland, run of the mill puppystrangling faction, the only thing that makes them notable is everyone else just has a puppymulching machine and they don't

[lunar harness]

cool native themes, warrior bushido codes, battlesuits!!!

[undone zodiac]

Alpha legions threads that fine line of secretive is cool but knowing nothing of them makes it incredibly boring and hard to be invested in

[lunar harness]

railguns! cool tanks! HOVERING.

[lunar harness]

i think all their lore got killed by eldrad

[jade holly]

Nah the lore was just Alpharius the whole time

[lunar harness]

like literally he killed every one of their characters

and dorn did the rest

so know they are just plan within a plan within a plan

[storm jungle]

They arent

[lunar harness]

which is good because if gw tried to write that plan it would suck

[storm jungle]

They are all traitors

[lunar harness]

the fact that its ambiguous is a good thing

[storm jungle]

Its not though

Everything they do is to aid chaos

[fallen summit]

Even if the Alpha Legion's goal is actually pretty decent they're still traitors

[storm jungle]

They never help the Imperium

[fallen summit]

Actually

Is the Cabal still canon?

[storm jungle]

Yes

[lunar harness]

i think so but all dead

[storm jungle]

Never was retconned

[lunar harness]

i just read about it

[storm jungle]

40k barely does that

[fallen summit]

Eeehh

[jade holly]

Alpha Legion is the silent guy trying to be cool by looking mysterious but actually just looks like one of those guys with the fake glasses and mustache on

[storm jungle]

This lol

People hype them up WAY too much

[jade holly]

That’s why I’m team DG and Noise Marines

Yeah I rep two chaos gods tf you gonna do about it?

[queen laurel]

If I had a nickel every time a faction get overhyped to the point that it's become the lore of them being overhyped I would have two nickels that's already a lot

[lunar harness]

its because it's a cool character fantasy. i think gw should lean into it

them being double agents is a really cool idea

[fallen summit]

I think the DG are the weakest faction identity wise when talking about chaos

This is kind of an issue all chaos legions have but it's really bad for the death guard

[jade holly]

I mean they’re nigh unkillable juggernauts

They get a pass

also they have Typhon

[urban spire]

it is an issue with all space marines

[fallen summit]

True but this is also just a Nurgle Thing

[lunar harness]

and there are stories where they impersonate other chapters to do good guy stuff right? or other chaos chapters which HAPPENS to help the imperium

[urban spire]

there is no depth of emotion or character, and on top of that chaos has to deal with their gods being saturday morning cartoon villains

[jade holly]

I hate to break it to you, Alpha just ain’t as cool as you’d wish it to be

[undone zodiac]

I think iron warriors nighties and black legion have good identity. Albeit bl suffers from over exposure like ultra smurfs

[jade holly]

Hey don’t diss Papa Nurgle like that

[lunar harness]

well I like the 30k stuff

betraying for the eldar and not chaos to save the galaxy itself is a cool idea

[fallen summit]

I think lumping Iron Warriors in with the other chaos marines is unfair, Pert and the Iron Warriors in general have fucking insane characterization

The flavor goes nutty with them

[urban spire]

nurgle is an overgrown toddler whose motivation is just "like me or suffer"

[jade holly]

Angron acts as both the stereotypical demonic angry dude while also being one of the most tragic tales

[fallen summit]

Nurgle and Slaanesh interest me the least out of the chaos gods

[spare osprey]

Eh tbf it’s sorta been thrown out the window as of late. Pert being a daemon prince is a big part of that

[queen laurel]

With the reveal of the skeleton robot man Vashtorr I just grabbed the iron warriors and just throw it at him

[jade holly]

Smh, someone’s not coming to the family reunion potluck

[queen laurel]

I mean they probably work with him considering that they're like the tech savvy ones

[fallen summit]

I always forget this is a thing

Everyone else has a concrete depiction but everyone's best guess for him is big obliterator

[fallen summit]

Be'lakor....

[undone zodiac]

Id prefer if world eaters were more 50/50 of crazy berserkers and other half of more martial and honourable warriors

[spare osprey]

They do. Accompanied him and abbadon to the fight on the rock

[fallen summit]

New Angron book had some of those

[jade holly]

So basically playing off Ares and Athena

[undone zodiac]

But the crazy train kinda is what it is

[queen laurel]

Be'lakor not really related with technological stuff so

[undone zodiac]

A little yea

[queen laurel]

i just leave him be

[fallen summit]

I know but they shafted him

[queen laurel]

Is what it is if you're a little ******* prick that can't shut up about your glory

that guy is trying his hardest i'm presuming

[fallen summit]

We should put the two in a boxing match and see who wins

[spare osprey]

Him and Vash?

[fallen summit]

Yeah!

[spare osprey]

Cause that happened

[fallen summit]

I'm sorry?

[spare osprey]

That happened

They fought

On the rock

[jade holly]

Who won

[fallen summit]

On no not fight

Just a boxing match

No weapons

Pure punching

Put them bitches in a ring

[spare osprey]

Neither side technically

[undone zodiac]

Vashtorr gets those spring loaded boxing gloves

[fallen summit]

Fucking inspector gadget chaos god

[spare osprey]

Be’lakor was just there to make Vash run out of time

[fallen summit]

GO GO GADGET WARP SPAWN

[jade holly]

Go Go Gadget Murder Be’lakor

[queen laurel]

And i'm going to be honest he would probably pull a trick like this

[undone zodiac]

Belakor goes for haymaker and vash just extends his legs and dodges it

[jade holly]

Discombobulate

[fallen summit]

IT'S MALAL WITH A STEEL CHAIR

[jade holly]

Fun fact, that wouldn’t actually work out well to my knowledge

Pretty sure RPGs need to actually travel a while in the air to arm

[fallen summit]

Put every minor chaos god in a room

[queen laurel]

I don't want to be that guy but yes I know it's a grenade, needs to get far enough and pass its minimum arming distance to have a chance of exploding on impact

[jade holly]

You think the Noise Marines would blast Slipknot

[fallen summit]

Shitnot

[jade holly]

I’ll twist your nuts

[urban spire]

would impact with a human body even trigger the charge in an rpg?

[jade holly]

Not to my knowledge

still need to actually arm

[grave sparrow]

Depends on the fuse. Most RPG's I'm aware of utilize that silver crush cap filled with piezoelectric crystal that ignites the warhead on impact.

[urban spire]

it's HEAT right?

[jade holly]

idfk

[urban spire]

or something like that

[jade holly]

I know it’s a propelled explosive

That’s all I know about rockets launchers

[urban spire]

yeah i looked it up, there's a few different types of ammo for it but most are HEAT

[jade holly]

High Explosive Anti Tank?

[grave sparrow]

The type of explosive doesn't matter for arming distance, its the fuse

[urban spire]

yes grimm

[queen laurel]

yeah so if you want to blow up someone with an RPG aim at the ground where they are standing

[urban spire]

it's a shaped charge

[queen laurel]

Direct impacts on something that would not be very helpful if you want to kill someone with an RPG for some reason

[urban spire]

idk if the explosion would be very good if you hit the ground

probably still enough to kill someone

quite a trick shot though

[jade holly]

Fun fact: you can fire a bullet with a hammer

[grave sparrow]

depends on how close. But it's still an explosive that will shoot out frag

[jade holly]

[queen laurel]

Even if you didn't at best you will be severely injured

[queen laurel]

gunpowder explodes if hit with appropriate force

[urban spire]

you can but shouldn't

[jade holly]

Yeah, all a gun does is refine the firing process of a bullet, a bullet fires when force is applied to the back of it which ignites the gunpowder within

[urban spire]

modern bullets don't really use gunpowder, but cordite; the danger spaghetti

[jade holly]

Same difference

[urban spire]

whole grain death

wait apparently cordite isn't used anymore either?

[jade holly]

Man can bullets make up their damn mind on what ignition to use?

[urban spire]

apparently what we use now is just called "gunpowder", i have no idea what that is, i thought we stopped using gunpowder because it makes too much smoke

I WONDER WHAT THE AGRIPINAA INFANTRY AUTO USES

[queen laurel]

**** it I'm just gonna call the things that shoot bullets shooty powder

Until they settle on what to use I'm gonna keep calling it the shooty powder

[urban spire]

"actually the primer is powerful enough to fire the bullets on its own now, we just stuff some dirt in the cartridge to even out the weight"

or

the aperture science turret firing mechanism

[jade holly]

Wait do Orks even use gunpowder for their shootas?

Or do they just will the bullets to fire

[urban spire]

they use powder

probably mushroom based powder

the ork reality distortion is not that strong

it only makes unreliable things more reliable

it's more like it tampers with probability

things don't just happen because orks want them to, that's memes

[celest dome]

Isn't cordite made with asbestos?

[jade holly]

Smh

[celest dome]

The ork Flamers are fueled by special Squigs

Most likely the same here

[urban spire]

i'm not an expert on cordite or asbestos but no, i think asbestos is pretty inert

like the main selling point of asbestos was that it refuses to burn

[grave sparrow]

blackpowder makes too much smoke, modern gunpowder is essentially smokeless

also it's not the gunpowder initially igniting, it's the primer which creates the initial spark when struck

gunpowder when not contained (and not in large amounts) will just burn like an intense sparkler. It needs to be contained to create the pressure needed to create the force for whatever.

Like if you set off a bullet by itself, it'll go like maybe 3 or 4 feet.

[urban spire]

the bullet isn't going anywhere, the casing is going to the next time zone

[grave sparrow]

it could function like a little rocket I guess lol, but it still won't go that far

the energy gets dispersed too quickly without much direction

[urban spire]

just a little bit of hyperbole for my sins

[grave sparrow]

I've thrown rusted 7.62x39 in a fire before, while it's still dangerous as hot metal can pop out and hit you, the energy isn't directed enough to cause lethal speed. You could probably throw a bullet faster lol

[green loom]

You're trying to think of reasonable logistics where there is none

[grave sparrow]

logistics?

[urban spire]

the conversation is about real life bullets

[green loom]

3

[jade holly]

Real men pick up shotgun shells and use a hammer to fire at close range

[grave sparrow]

Let me put some emphasis on if you're going to dispose of ammunition this way, please make sure you're standing far away and preferably behind some sort of cover. As much as it shouldn't be super dangerous, deflagration can still make wonky things happen.

[jade holly]

Nah

I eat the recoil like the champ I am

[grave sparrow]

I meant throwing em in a fire lol

[jade holly]

I’ll jump in the fire with it to set it off

[grave sparrow]

this is a MAN'S MAN

[vague flare]

Can I get a quick synopsis on what happened to Cadia?

[green loom]

Black Legion invaded

Thas bout it

[vague flare]

Who or what is the Black Legion? Heretics obviously, but what else?

[green loom]

They're the main force of Chaos worshippers

[vague flare]

Ahhh

[arctic talon]

Largest chaos space marine legion by far

They used to be mostly sons of Horus

[green loom]

Led by this guy

[arctic talon]

Now they recruit pretty much anyone

[green loom]

In more detail, there were a number of Thracian regiments that helped defend Cadia
These regiments turned to chaos, and suddenly turned on the Cadians while on the planet, killing almost the entirety of the Cadian Upper Echelon

Then a ground invasion started, which newly promoted Ursarkar Creed crushed

And then the main Traitor legion force arrived

[arctic talon]

Imperial forces got overrun pretty heavily by it, till the blackstone pylons were activated

Which pretty much cut off the connection to the warp all over Cadia and began closing the eye of terror

[green loom]

Yeah, they got swamped, were down to maybe a handful of Kasrs, but mostly just Kasr Kraf

[vague flare]

Interesting. That certainly helps to explain the bitterness if the Cutthroat personality.

[green loom]

The Traitors nuked most of Battlefleet Cadia

[arctic talon]

This led to pretty much every psyker on planet freaking out

[green loom]

Then the Phalanx showed up

[arctic talon]

While any daemons got banished instantly

[green loom]

The traitors had a big weapon called a Blackstone fortress that was supposed to destroy all life on the planet, but it got crippled by both Imperial ship fire and also boarders

[arctic talon]

Also any heavily mutated CSM just straight up died

[green loom]

Abby decided it was too much trouble to keep it, so he just threw it into the planet, cracking it open

iirc Cutthroat is supposed to be the one that was there right?

Not a fun time for anyone

[arctic talon]

Cutthroat wasn’t on planet I think?

Since he says he doesn’t know what happened

Only that the imperium left their planet to die

[green loom]

Probably since he's just a footslogger

Since he watched it die I assume he was on world when the BSF hit

[arctic talon]

Tbh if they were on cadia there’s a good chance he’s fucking dead

[green loom]

Cus they had some time to evacuate still

[arctic talon]

If he was in the cadian system though that would make sense

Since the whole system was at war

[vague flare]

Still all helps to explains the bitterness, getting to see with their own eyes as their home planet was destroyed.

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[green loom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C07IBfAUaXY&t=281s&ab_channel=VedaRa

Watch dis

[arctic talon]

The cut throat is also uh

Absurdly paranoid

[warm notch]

Absurdly or just the normal amount for any person in the Imperium?

🤔

[vague flare]

How so? I must have missed some voice-lines.

[green loom]

You sure? from what I remember they shout about trusting no one quite a bit

[storm jungle]

To quote

TURN YOUR COATS

AND I'LL FIND YA

[vague flare]

I remember that line avtually

[green loom]

And when you select them their mologue is pretty much just

"EVERYONES A POTENTIAL ENEMY, NO ONE IS TO BE TRUSTED"

[warm notch]

Do you think the Adepta Sororitas have girl power

[arctic talon]

Absurdly

He pretty much says everyone is going to go traitor

And he’s going to fucking murder them

[vague flare]

Possibly.

[warm notch]

Do you think they Gaslight Gatekeep Girlboss?

[vague flare]

Actually, definitely, since they’re all women and they also operate under the rule-of-cool

[warm notch]

💅

[vague flare]

XD

[arctic talon]

Absolutely

[warm notch]

I love how ridiculous everything in the 40k universe is yet it’s taken seriously enough that you can buy that “it just works”

[green loom]

It starts to break down once you try thinking about it too hard

Like reddit does

[warm notch]

Like an all-female elite squad of warrior-nuns sounds ridiculous

[arctic talon]

[warm notch]

But it’s fucking cool

[arctic talon]

Tbf the rules lawyering that founded them is comical

No “Men at Arms”

[warm notch]

Yep

[jade holly]

Inside out or?

[arctic talon]

Ah so that’s why the Professional Veteran is in prison

[jade holly]

I feel like if he deserted he would’ve been executed on the spot instead of arrested

[arctic talon]

I’m saying they most likely got in trouble for being too “vocal” about the danger of some enemies

[warm notch]

Like wouldn’t that just be bad for morale

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[jade holly]

Oh that makes more sense

[warm notch]

Executing everyone on the spot that expresses despair

Lmao

[arctic talon]

Especially since their intro line

Mentions a comissar

Lol

They prolly said something about getting horrifically tortured by the dark eldar lol

Or something along those lines

[warm notch]

Like is it in the job description of a commissar to be a complete unfeeling dick lol

[jade holly]

“Come on men the Eldar Vs us”

[warm notch]

Ik that sending so many soldiers to their death would make you a hardened asshole

[jade holly]

“Idk man if they capture us we’ll be tortured and begging for death”

[warm notch]

Buuuut?

[arctic talon]

It depends

[warm notch]

Turn into a lobotomized cyborg or face unimaginable torment?

Decisions decisions

[arctic talon]

But they’re meant to be cold

But still keep morale in mind

Some are a bunch of absolute psychopaths though

[vague flare]

I respectfully have to disagree, it sounds awesome! 😄

[warm notch]

Oh no it’s cool because they take it seriously

[vague flare]

Granted, I’m a bit biased as I have lady on the lady-brain :3

[warm notch]

It doesn’t seem as sexualized as it seems on paper

Tho not saying that they won’t look sexy slaying heretics 💅

[arctic talon]

Reminder that marines oil each other up

[jade holly]

So they can fit into their armor?

[arctic talon]

No

It’s to get rid of sore spots and clean out the connection ports

[warm notch]

Do you think that Shipmistress Brahms has girl power

[jade holly]

Oh yeah they’re cybernetic somewhat

I keep forgetting that for some reason

[warm notch]

Also it’s funny how Commodore Hallowette can shirk regulations just because she’s part of Brahms’s staff lol

[arctic talon]

She’s a rogue trader she absolutely gaslights gatekeeps and girl bosses

[warm notch]

But does she yasss slay

💅

[jade holly]

Just

No

[arctic talon]

Good question

[vague flare]

It’s not even about being sexy or attractive at all. I just love women and love it even more when they’re badasses. Not enough franchises do this without also making them these overly sexualized caricatures.

[warm notch]

Mmmm women

[arctic talon]

Based on how she dresses no

She’s too fancy

[warm notch]

I’m wamen that likes wamen too

[jade holly]

Why is it every channel in here talk sexuality of the universe now

[warm notch]

Furry Adepta Sororitas when

[jade holly]

Why do people always make things weird

[warm notch]

Contrary to popular belief Khorne is ok with sex, he just doesn’t want you to be weird about it

[jade holly]

I fucking hate the internet sometimes

[warm notch]

Sexuality is inherent in the human condition. Figuring out how sexuality works within the worldbuilding is an interesting topic to many.

[arctic talon]

Seeing as they dislike abhumans, never

[jade holly]

Except it’s not

[warm notch]

What if she was cute 🥺

[jade holly]

It’s boring and leads to garbage ass Headcanons

[arctic talon]

Nope

[warm notch]

Lol

We’re just having a bit of fun

[green loom]

Nothing's stopping you tbf

The sisters we know are mostly just

Horribly

Horribly

Racist

[warm notch]

Just like me fr

[green loom]

Or maybe that's not the right word but they hate mutants lol

[jade holly]

They’re xenophobic

I think that’s prob the better word

Or nationalistic

[warm notch]

Specist*

[storm jungle]

Nah they are xenophobic

[green loom]

Shit they'll gut you for thinking Passage 12-7 in their version of the Big Book is missing like two words

[storm jungle]

they kill humans en-masse too

[storm jungle]

Reminder that theres a sister order who deglove their one hand

[green loom]

Bloody Rose?

[warm notch]

What does that mean

[green loom]

Degloving means removing the skin from

[celest dome]

Take off the skin

[storm jungle]

A religious tenant where they remove their arm's skin

[green loom]

Usually in a very painful way

[vague flare]

DO NOT LOOK IT UP!!!

[warm notch]

O-Oh

[green loom]

So like

[warm notch]

Ow

[storm jungle]

hence de-glove

[arctic talon]

Do not look up getting skin degolved

[warm notch]

No no more

[jade holly]

Still girlboss enough for you?

[arctic talon]

The easiest way to do it is uh

[green loom]

Your arm gets accelerated through a hole

It is now

[arctic talon]

Actually

[green loom]

Probably

[arctic talon]

I shouldn’t mention it

[green loom]

Degloved

[arctic talon]

But it involves boiling

And ice water

[celest dome]

Happen quite frequently in the industries
Never wear rings

[green loom]

Yeah it's not pleasant

[storm jungle]

Yeah do not look up degloved on google its legit just gore

[green loom]

One of the more gruesome things injury wise

[jade holly]

I saw a video on YouTube of a whale blowing up

Apparently biology screwed them over that badly

[storm jungle]

Its the oil and air buildup

[green loom]

I will never be able to feel safe in a factory thanks to Reddit

[warm notch]

Uh

Ew

[jade holly]

They just sorta go pop

they’re dead during it don’t worry

It’s not like they blow up while alive

[celest dome]

Degloving is actually the 2nd worse work related injury I could get, the 1st would Hydraulic spill/jet

[warm notch]

40k is weird

[arctic talon]

I mean

[warm notch]

Do you think that they have church on Sundays

[jade holly]

YOU AIN’T SEEN NOTHING YET BOYO

[warm notch]

Like

Real life

[jade holly]

[arctic talon]

The main group of humans are a bunch of psychopathic xenophobic religious death cult members

[arctic talon]

Every day of the week

[warm notch]

Oh okay

It’s not like an hour service is it

[green loom]

Yeah religion is heavily punched into daily life

[arctic talon]

In the mechanicus it is

Unsure of elsewhere

[jade holly]

The funniest part? The Emperor didn’t even want that but since he’s a vegetable skeleton on a toilet seat he can’t really object to it

[storm jungle]

40k also satirizes the catholic/christian church a lot since it was made in 90's england lol

[jade holly]

[arctic talon]

But workers are made to pray on the line

While working

[warm notch]

That’s for the machine spirit isn’t it?

[arctic talon]

No

[jade holly]

The Emperor

[arctic talon]

^

[warm notch]

Ah

[jade holly]

The “God Emperor of Mankind”

[arctic talon]

Machine spirit rituals are conducted by priests

Not by slaves menials

[warm notch]

Makes sense

What kind of hobbies do some people engage in

[jade holly]

Flaying

Flagellation

[warm notch]

That’s hot

[warm notch]

That’s hot

[jade holly]

you’re weird

[warm notch]

That’s hot

[grave sparrow]

Although if the operators are nice and take care of their equipment sometimes the machine spirit will operate whatever machinery it resides in in service of the Emprah

[arctic talon]

In the imperium you don’t really get hobby time as a menial lol

[grave sparrow]

they drink a lot

[arctic talon]

Considering 16 hour workdays are like

Common on hive worlds

[green loom]

There's some games people play

Some carve things

[arctic talon]

^

[grave sparrow]

Regicide

[green loom]

Like

[arctic talon]

Anything workers irl do

Someone in the imperium does

[grave sparrow]

which I think is just chess

[green loom]

It's not to the level of hobby bs we can get up to

[arctic talon]

Regicide is like sorta chess

It’s weird

[warm notch]

Psyker savant mentions festivals in the hive city

[grave sparrow]

Sanguinala?

[arctic talon]

Mandatory attendance for those heh

[warm notch]

Lol

[jade holly]

Prob just military who strikes

[warm notch]

And something about racing

[jade holly]

Showing off the “might of the imperium”

[arctic talon]

The racing is for the wealthier people

Not menials

Who are the majority of the population

[storm jungle]

yeah camel racing

since atoma is mostly deserts

[jade holly]

Camels?

How tf are those fuckers still alive in 40k

[grave sparrow]

it definitely varies world to world. Like Hive cities suck, but there's worlds that probably aren't too different from what we know

[warm notch]

I like knowing about the more mundane aspects in worldbuilding

It’s fun

[jade holly]

Hive Cities are basically places like SF, Seattle, Baltimore and NYC on their worst days ever being what better days in hive cities look like

[nocturne crest]

Which space marines probably have the most knowledge on farming?

[warm notch]

The librarian?

[odd palm]

Probs UM

[grave sparrow]

Probably which ever ones recruit from agri-worlds lol

[warm notch]

Oh so the “hobby” for all of the serfs is just having kids lmao

[green loom]

I recall the chapter master of the Scythes of the Emperor running his own farm

[warm notch]

Just like irl history

[jade holly]

Oh that’s the neat part

[green loom]

I think

[jade holly]

The Imperium ARE antagonists

[warm notch]

Protagonist????

WHAT?

No

[jade holly]

There is no such thing as the Good Guys in 40k

[warm notch]

Halo’s covenant is overtly religious

If you want an example of a comparable amount of zealotry

[grave sparrow]

There's good people and minor factions in 40k, but it could be said major factions as a whole could be considered immoral

[jade holly]

Except Orks

They’re just sorta vibing

Granted they torture and butcher any ‘umies and whatnot they come across

But they’re there for the fun of it

[grave sparrow]

yea, nah Orks are pretty fucked up lol

it is their nature, but they're still pretty evil

[arctic talon]

I don’t think there’s any faction in 40K I’d call morally good

[jade holly]

Don’t even get me started on the Dark Eldar

[grave sparrow]

Salamanders?

[arctic talon]

No

[jade holly]

Protagonist simply means the main character of the story

Example

[arctic talon]

They’re still absurdly xenophobic

[warm notch]

I want state-sanctioned catboys :(

[jade holly]

Thanos is the protagonist in Infinity War

[grave sparrow]

Good

[jade holly]

It’s his movie

[arctic talon]

Regarding religious protagonists

Like

Multiple of the 40K factions are very religious lol

Craftworld eldar, the imperium, chaos, orks

[grave sparrow]

Farsight Enclaves could probably be considered fairly good

[arctic talon]

They’re a speck

Dune

[warm notch]

Yeah like isn’t that a huge point of the setting lol

[arctic talon]

A holy Jihad to cleanse the stars

[grave sparrow]

Jedi is kinda like a religion

[storm jungle]

its almost like 40k stole everything from Dune

[grave sparrow]

Jedi code and all that

[storm jungle]

very sus

[jade holly]

There’s Starfield I guess?

[storm jungle]

Starfield existed

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/arab-cat-cat-fruity-gif-21937613

[arctic talon]

https://preview.redd.it/ludd-cat-be-like-v0-3vgj82bilhja1.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=6a6f966675d5287b1319e2783bdaddf49c210494

[warm notch]

What’s starfield

[jade holly]

Bethesda’s newest game

[warm notch]

I’m kidding

[jade holly]

I liked it

[warm notch]

Ik what it is

[arctic talon]

I like star sector because I can fund terrorists like the US government and get away with it with 0 political or economical consequences

[warm notch]

My bf’s save has been bricked for a little while cuz of an error in a mission

[storm jungle]

lmao

[warm notch]

I haven’t had a chance to finish cuz I’m waiting for the patch that fixes it lol

[arctic talon]

Actually there is a political one

The church doesn’t like you doing that

But you can also sell them drugs so does it really matter

[warm notch]

Do you think margaret thatcher had girl power

[arctic talon]

I don’t even think she was a human

[storm jungle]

Wow its like Bethesda never changed

[arctic talon]

Aparantly you have to do 214 puzzles to unlock your powers lol

[storm jungle]

Maggy got the best and hottest spot in hell im sure

[warm notch]

Especially when she funded those illegal paramilitary deathsquads to Northern Ireland

Do y’all think that Hadron is a Gaslight Gatekeep Girlboss?

Yass slay 💅

[arctic talon]

hadron is a tech priestess

so absolutely

she also probably has randomly killed a few slaves on board the ship already with "experiments" lol

[warm notch]

Apparently her amount of sassiness is unusual with tech priests?

Or are tech priests not that emotive generally

[arctic talon]

No

her personality is normal

she holds absolute disdain for meatbags unagumented, talks down to people they think are idiotic and generally has a poor attitude towards anyone they see as inferior

[warm notch]

Idk why the characters think she’s unusual then

[arctic talon]

Because

she's a tech priest

she's weird by that nature

[warm notch]

No, I’m pretty sure they mention that it’s out of the norm for tech priests?

Or she acts out of the norm

Whatever

[arctic talon]

not really

[warm notch]

I’ll get a SS of the conversation if I see it

[arctic talon]

She acts like a lot of tech priests in books

or other games

if anything she isn't as hugely petty as you would expect

[warm notch]

Lol

[arctic talon]

she straight up asks for permission to execute you instead of just doing it lol

[warm notch]

She’s so nice

[median marsh]

Admech and "normal" humans in general have a bit of a strained relation

both them and imperium understand that they need eachother

[urban spire]

depends on what you mean by genuinely religious. most brandon sanderson novels feature characters who are religious

[median marsh]

Tech priests are honestly pretty terrifying, the higher the position the more disturbing they are

look at Cawl for example

he is a towering amalgam of machinery and what little flesh remains, speaking either in code or extremely analytical detail

and when hes looking at you he is running all sorts of calculations and predictions as was shown in Battlefleet gothic cutscene where he talks with Creed about necron pylons

[arctic talon]

Cawl also moves incredibly fast

[median marsh]

id wager Zealot would have most trouble with admech because the core principle of their and imperiums union is the fact Admech is allowed to practice their own religion (even if they say that Emperor is divine)

[arctic talon]

It’s kind of horrifying lol

Like he crawls everywhere like a goddamn millipede

[urban spire]

tbf cawl is a very nonstandard cogboy

[arctic talon]

His form isn’t super weird

It’s sorta like Scoria’s

Though Scoria had way more arms

And less legs

[urban spire]

i mean ideologically

[arctic talon]

Oh

Well yeah

But appearance wise and how he thinks through situations

He’s pretty normal

For an Archmagos

[urban spire]

he has some very unusual eccentricities

like his cloned human arms

[median marsh]

there are voices within mechanicus basically saying he is a heretic, but at the same time he is pretty vital in current situation

[arctic talon]

It’s like

A bit over half lol

A chunk doesn’t care

And a chunk thinks he’s correct

[median marsh]

anyone who would try stirring shit would have to go through Guiliman and Primaris

[arctic talon]

Also his literal entire armies

[urban spire]

he is a heretic and a blasphemer

[arctic talon]

Worth of skitarii and servitors lol

[median marsh]

because i doubt big blueberry would allow anyone to try any funny buisness

[urban spire]

i think he's okay

[arctic talon]

Tbh

The fabricator general of mars doesn’t give a shit about what he’s doing

So

Approval enough for him

[median marsh]

most importantly he delivered results

[arctic talon]

Yeah

It’s not like his plan was a total failure

(21st founding)

[urban spire]

coulda used his time more productively

[arctic talon]

I don’t think he cares

[urban spire]

the marginal improvement on empy's special boys was not worth ten thousand years

[arctic talon]

Again I don’t think he cares, he’s fucking weird

[urban spire]

and yeah he doesn't care he's a fictional character he is incapable of experiencing my thoughts and opinions

[arctic talon]

It was probably some new obsession for him

Also that

[median marsh]

"heres 5 gorillion marines, have fun, im off to fiddle some necrons"

[arctic talon]

Yeah he has a new obsession now lol

Blackstone

[urban spire]

adhd fixations be like

[arctic talon]

His blackstone obsession started sometime in M.41 since he had some of his underlings begin running around researching it

[median marsh]

Trazyn showing him stuff was probably a dream come true

unless im remembering it wrong and it wasnt Trazyn in that cutscene

[arctic talon]

It was

But he still doesn’t know enough

[median marsh]

Hadron is still my favorite admech so far

her awkward jokes mixed with angry bursts and explaining things like im 3

"Spiky ones need BIG BUILDING intact to make more spiky tanks"

"Now, go kill some heretics! good varlet!"

and of course her trying to gaslight ogryn into believing shes not watching every single thing happening

[urban spire]

she's great

[undone zodiac]

Doesnt trazyn have some techpriest just sitting in his tomb just computing away and trazyn lets him just sit there

[storm jungle]

Yes he does.

Its shown in War in the Museum short story

its about as funny as you can imagine lol

[green loom]

He's used to his shenanigans as well

[undone zodiac]

"Hey techie how you doin?"
binary
"Thats good to hear"

[green loom]

They converse a bit

He's a biologis

Specialises in Tyranids

[grave sparrow]

Trayzn has an admech intern?!

[storm jungle]

Trazyn literally has everything

[median marsh]

i can imagine him just asking Trazyn to get him a nid to look at

[storm jungle]

also its not really an intern uh

he doesnt let him freely walk around

[median marsh]

hes basically a curiosity

[storm jungle]

he just thaws him out of statis because SOMEONE let tyranids escape from their frozen confines

[median marsh]

a collectible

[grave sparrow]

I mean what business lets their interns walk around freely lol

[storm jungle]

lmao wow

too real 💀

[median marsh]

[storm jungle]

[median marsh]

lmao

[warm notch]

Do you guys think that Big E is a feminist

[celest dome]

I don't event think that Big E is a humanist

[urban spire]

big e is primarily an imperialist

[spare osprey]

I mean if you’re willing to be thrown in plastic armor and thrown at the unknowable horrors

Why not

[arctic talon]

Big E believes in equal rights for all of humanity, serving under him

[grave sparrow]

Emphasis on serving under him lol

or if you have some mutation that doesn't make you entirely human.

Looking at you, Unseen.

[warm notch]

My favorite part about Darktide is just how the personalities have distinct accents and how even within the same personality the different genders read their lines differently

I love it so much like aaaaa

[storm jungle]

Such accents as

Bri'ish

but jokes aside all the performances are great

[warm notch]

Ikr

[warm notch]

And also more iconic accents such as:

Fr*nch

[hasty coral]

It may not be Vermintide buts it’s commendable how good the personalities still are

[arctic talon]

In the grim dark future of the 41st millennium everyone has a European accent

[storm jungle]

Still very much would prefer a pre-set cast tbh

[arctic talon]

Agreed

[hasty coral]

Of course Fatshark hires unbelievably talented VAs

[arctic talon]

Build a character is bad

Imo

[warm notch]

I also love the little conversations they have that imply that they all hang out with each other outside of the missions

[hasty coral]

Agreed to some extent

[storm jungle]

theres a reason for a game that came out in 2009 like L4D1 and 2 most people still remember the entire cast of characters from there.

[hasty coral]

I like no class restrictions

[storm jungle]

Yeah no thats fine

but they could have done it ala VT2 tbh

[arctic talon]

They also could have like

[warm notch]

I’m okay with the personalities

[arctic talon]

Still kept the existing personalities

[warm notch]

It just seems like a lot of work for them down the line

[arctic talon]

So you could have a stack

Like

[hasty coral]

The VAs though are just insane