#40k-lore-chat

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queen laurel
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Yeah I'm going to be back real quick the imperium has a ******* ship catalog longer than my patience

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alright that should be checked off the list

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now for the crew

queen laurel
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how do i make an interesting crew without making it seem weird

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hmm

celest dome
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I'd look at the Acolyte list from Inquisitors

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As the base acolytes then adding in 1 or 2 normal level Xenos

queen laurel
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a heavily modified Ambot

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and an Ork Blood Axe

celest dome
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Then I would say no more Xenos

storm jungle
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An ork is the most sus member you can have unless you got a really good way to hide em yeah.

queen laurel
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Problem solved

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Alright next human members

celest dome
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But I would add at least 1 or 2 Admech, most likely a Tech Priest and some lower ranked one (Electro Priest, Skitarii or even Servitor)

queen laurel
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So maybe two tech priests that considered themselves brothers

celest dome
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No Sister, but some Void-Masters and Militant

queen laurel
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we can't fly into the warp without one

celest dome
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Sure, also could have some Psykers, either some themed on Telepathy or on Divination

queen laurel
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a militant

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and a navigator

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do i need anything else to make it proper rogue trader ish

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And of course the void masters how could I forget

storm jungle
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I had a radical Inquisitor who runs operations through a 7000+ Viper-class ship, and to avoid the lack of manpower and information leak at the face of a real crew she has a deal with some non-chaos hereteks and a few votann outcasts who give her their services by making most of the ship automated with either proper tech or servitors

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so get creative

queen laurel
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OK **** it I'm adding my ogryn into this

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Time to get creative without making it cringe

storm jungle
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whoops not heretics, meant hereteks

celest dome
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Maybe some Pilot leader and stuff

queen laurel
green loom
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Crew chief

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Head enforcer

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Bodyguard

queen laurel
celest dome
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That's just an Arch Militant (And/Or a Void-master

queen laurel
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OK for the ship I'm going with the exorcist grand cruiser

normal light
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What is the topic?

queen laurel
normal light
queen laurel
normal light
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Ok

queen laurel
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Alright I have a very solid foundation time to come up with something thanks for the help

near wasp
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With a ship name like that the dark angels might be sniffing around

urban spire
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alright so which planet is known to have the best food?

median marsh
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"Me? I aint no ork, am 'umie!"

queen laurel
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probably will not work most of the time but hey i have a reason

median marsh
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"he fell into a vat of green paint when he was small, so now his skin is permanently green. Why does he have tusks? dont question it"

wicked lion
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kinda wish we had an ogryn power fist

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like

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what if i just wanna punch shit

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REALLY HARD

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i dont mean the xplosive weapon

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i mean like

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power sword

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but FIST

shadow plover
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I'd love to have these

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One promotional pic has that backpack

wicked lion
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or, idk, rocket powered FIST

storm jungle
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Sounds about right

storm jungle
celest dome
shadow plover
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It can be done

celest dome
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I think for ease of animations they would do something like this

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Adapting them to Gauntlets to avoid the difficulties

jade holly
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He could be any one of us

storm jungle
arctic talon
wicked lion
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whos the worst chaoss god to be captured by? id say probably slaanesh

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with khorne, you just get killed

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ur dead

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no big deal

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with nurgle, ur decaying, yeah

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but you also dont care soooooo

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that leaves tzeench and slaanesh

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both would do horrible things to your physical being

storm jungle
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All of them are bad

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its just kinda down to the people that captured you and how they want to kill you, they all can equally make it fast or slow, its way too dependant

celest dome
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As Saltz said, you should never grade evil

storm jungle
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or else you'll find kinship with the least, yep

forest orbit
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what Dilara said, all of them are varying degrees of bad if you get captured lol

arctic talon
urban spire
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ogryn NEEDS a heavy bolter

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mostly for emotional support

arctic talon
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Give them a Las cannon

urban spire
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also dope

arctic talon
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Instantly kill everything you shoot

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Very limited ammo

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Slow firing

urban spire
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single shot, long reload

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like 10 ammo cap

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when you fire, everything in a line just dies

celest dome
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Should those weapon still have a melee attack for the special ?

urban spire
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yeah, why not?

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lascannons aren't fragile, they mount those things on tanks

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high tech imperial weapons typically get more fragile or unstable the smaller they are

urban spire
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the heavy versions tend to be pretty okay

arctic talon
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The most sensitive heavy weapon in the imperium is prolly like

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Idk

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The multi laser?

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Those barrels look kinda fragile compared to other heavy weapons

urban spire
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even that goes on a tank

arctic talon
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Yeah

celest dome
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Ogryn should have a Multilaser too

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And a Lascutter

urban spire
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absolutely

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there are SO many heavy weapons in the imperial arsenal for the ogryn

arctic talon
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I do not trust the ogryn with a plasma cannon

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However

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It would be funny

celest dome
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There is a book where an Ogryn has a Plasma Cannon

arctic talon
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Neat

celest dome
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But honestly I'd rather the Ogryn not get Plasma and Flamer

arctic talon
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Yeah

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Feels like it steps on vet/zealots toes

urban spire
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i'd be fine with plasma as an aoe

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i like the plasma glow

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listen the ogryn NEEDS a plasma cannon

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what if we run into enemy tanks

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also having just put some time into necromancer sienna i have this to say:

arctic talon
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Hear me out

urban spire
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going back to vermintide 2 has REALLY made me appreciate the level design in darktide

arctic talon
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Give the ogryn

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A seismic wave cannon

celest dome
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That I wouldn't be against

arctic talon
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Has two firing modes

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Dispersed and directed

urban spire
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it's too bad there's no real necromancer faction in 40k, the vampire counts aesthetic in space would be fantastic

celest dome
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As I want the Ogryn to have an adapted Rock Saw

urban spire
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vampire hunter D type beat

arctic talon
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And the primary fire is like

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A sonic beam

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The alt fire is a aoe one

green loom
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Everything is much slower and choppier imo

urban spire
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i love the level design in vt2, don't get me wrong

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but wow they did an incredible job with darktide

celest dome
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I saw someone saying that Deathwing: SH should influence Darktide Sitgryn

urban spire
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haw

arctic talon
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Only thing that’s cool is the art design and the fact you feel bulky and slow

urban spire
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i think streumon makes cool looking games but i've never seen them bring a game together mechanically

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it's interesting to play them because they're usually full of good ideas, but they never really work out in practice

near wasp
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Deathwing where terminator armor is made of paper

urban spire
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that's accurate

arctic talon
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Have you seen chaosgate daemonhunters lol

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Heavy stubber cultist

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The deadliest of all

near wasp
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Ive played it

urban spire
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genestealers tear terminators to shreds

celest dome
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I think a Deathwing 2 which take heavy inspiration on Darktide would be great.
And seeing that there were updates to the lore of both Dark Angels and Tyr

urban spire
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eh, streumon had their chance

crisp heath
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first generation genestealers have no business being as strong as they are

celest dome
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I mean what would it cost us if more 40k game were made, like I wouldn't buy it at launch for sure but why not after it's been tested

crisp heath
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Like eldar get a pass because they're psychic, but a genestealer patriarch is just so powerful that I cannot accept that it's an "animal" and not some kind of machine

arctic talon
crisp heath
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If I'm not mistaken, they're as fast as custodes

arctic talon
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Or the patriarch

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Because those are 2 separate things

crisp heath
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yeah pure strains, but the patriarch just kicks it up to 11

arctic talon
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The patriarch is some weird evolution that takes place

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But it’s a giant nid

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It makes sense imo

crisp heath
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Genestealers just don't work as like, biological creatures

arctic talon
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I mean

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Neither do a lot of the nid weapons

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By that logic imo

storm jungle
arctic talon
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The heat a pyovore generates

crisp heath
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Shush don't apply logic when I'm ranting

arctic talon
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Is absurd

urban spire
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they are not naturally evolved yeah

arctic talon
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Funny melting marines

storm jungle
crisp heath
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Let me find arbitrary reasons to hate genestealers even more

storm jungle
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they got claw tips that can tear open terminator armor

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thus generate more salt

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I love them ❤️

crisp heath
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The Hive Mind did not intend for tyranids to THINK

urban spire
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"this is bullshit" said the guardsman.
"lol" said the genestealer. "lmao"

crisp heath
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they are an abomination unto our God

storm jungle
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Okay Alex Jones

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go back to Black Mesa

crisp heath
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Their guns aren't even made of meat!

urban spire
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i hope vet gets a pet subclass like necromancer sienna

celest dome
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I never found Tyr and GSC really any interesting tbh

arctic talon
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🤓

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Give us a tech adept that just had a bunch of servoskulls with guns

urban spire
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i think GSC are absolutely fascinating

arctic talon
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And that’s their “summon”

urban spire
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functionally they are just imperial insurgents

crisp heath
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Honestly yeah I think I just found my issue with genestealers

celest dome
urban spire
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there was some stuff in the early leaked code that indicated they had experimented with giving vet a pet subclass

crisp heath
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if the patriarch got all the cultists together and handed out meat guns like "hello, my children, partake of my munitions, which I have grown in my fleshy tumor sack" and then the cultists ran around as normal dudes with a stomach acid supersoaker

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yeah I'd like that

urban spire
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although to be frank it would be insanely cool if every class got a pet subclass

celest dome
urban spire
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yeah datamine, i misspoke

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my brain is fried

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i've played 40 hours of rimworld in the last 3 days

celest dome
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Yeah those were people reading things they wanted to read

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Like how some people said that there are mention of GSC in the codes

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Which is true

arctic talon
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hear me out guys

celest dome
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But there is also mention of Nuln and Baltazar Gelt in the same file

arctic talon
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Summon a servoskull with Guns

urban spire
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still, a pet class isn't out of the picture now that necromancer sienna exists

crisp heath
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I fear my own decisions

urban spire
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i love doing dumb insane challenges in rimworld

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thriving in the worst possible places is so much fun

urban spire
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this is super off topic though lol

arctic talon
celest dome
crisp heath
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I'm probably going to find a seed online to guarantee that he lands somewhere with a structure to sleep in

celest dome
crisp heath
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otherwise he'll just go crazy and get eaten by wolf

arctic talon
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a Gheistskull would be cool

urban spire
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a tech priest dominus with a bunch of skitarii would be a completely unreasonable thing to ask for

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however

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i want it

celest dome
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I think they would be a cool spin for a Keystone

arctic talon
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but sounds fun

celest dome
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Same way the enemies do I would say

crisp heath
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Honestly I feel like zealot would be better for a servo skull pet class, at least thematically

urban spire
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a tech priest mobilizing the uncorrupted servitors in the map is a neat idea

arctic talon
crisp heath
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Servo skulls just come across as very ecclessiarchical

celest dome
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They are used but the main user are still the Admech

arctic talon
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The mechanicus and ecclesiarchy can agree on one thing

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they love them

crisp heath
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"oh yeah that's a floating dead guy, we could make a religion out of this"

celest dome
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The Ecclesiarchy prefer Cherubs

urban spire
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nah ecclesiarchy has-

arctic talon
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mmmmm skulls

urban spire
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yeah, cherubs

arctic talon
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Also yeah the ecclesiarchy like cherubs more

crisp heath
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I'm pretty sure everyone who is rich has cherubs

arctic talon
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then servoskulls

crisp heath
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cherubs are the Iphone of 40k

arctic talon
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yeah

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they're to show status

celest dome
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For Zealot I could see Enforcer with a fused Ability/Keystone for a Petclass with a Cyber Mastiff
On the Preacher side I would say

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The other getting a Crusader

arctic talon
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I wonder how fatshark will rearrange the like

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skill trees

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if they're gona add more

urban spire
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zealot leading a bunch of

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what are they called

celest dome
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I'd just add them to the side

urban spire
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the ecclesiarchy is allowed to mobilize followers for battle in emergency situations

celest dome
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The one that I'd like to be reshaped are the Ogryn and Psyker ones

arctic talon
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Frateris milita

celest dome
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Missionary ?

urban spire
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right that was it

arctic talon
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also ngl its kind of weird not all of the like paths are the same

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like visually speaking its cool

urban spire
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zealot leading a bunch of frateris militia would be dope

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idk what a psyker pet subclass could be

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wyrdvanes?

celest dome
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Probably just Assail

crisp heath
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I think the most fun addition that could be in the game would be letting an ogryn blitz be picking up the nearest small enemy, like a poxwalker or hound, and just throwing it, like directly into an enemy, into a pit, whatever, just yeet

urban spire
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hard agree

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i'd also like it if ogryn was allowed to pick up all the barrels laying around the map

celest dome
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I'd agree but I think they won't do it for animation sake

crisp heath
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You'd need a new ogryn anim but the enemy could just ragdoll and I think people would like that more

celest dome
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I would love to see the Rock sometime just have a Crusher helmet or something though

urban spire
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OH

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ogryn should get brass knucks

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imagine the potential for skins

crisp heath
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Do you think this should make this canon?

green loom
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I prefer Visarch/Yvraine

arctic talon
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They’ve talked with each other once in canon

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and both are off doing their own thing anyways

broken zealot
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what does urism mean

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"to honour the yurism before (primarch) before he left"

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mishearing this 🤔

crisp heath
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You know what I find funny,.

winter vessel
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Did you look in the mirror?

crisp heath
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No that people ship Guilliman and Yvraine as a loving couple while Gabriel and Macha is more like Sonic and Amy .

crisp heath
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YEa Gabe to me seems like a guy who is married to his work.

vast heart
# crisp heath Do you think this should make this canon?

God no. The entire premise behind it is absolutely fucking ridiculous. They literally have two conversations.

Warhammer fans are so painfully parasocial that to them; talking to a woman twice is confirmation that you're now married

crisp heath
brisk vine
crisp heath
thick cedar
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Do psykers use their powers casually? like if they dont feel like holding their mug and just make it float?

arctic talon
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there's levels of using psychic powers

celest dome
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While yes there us levels to Psychic powers I think most people wouldn't do that. As using the Warp (or the winds in fantasy ) is quite dangerous

arctic talon
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tbf the question was do in general

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there's some psykers who's ego's are more then big enough to do that

urban spire
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if it's worth doing, it's worth risking your immortal soul to do it with cool mind powers

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this includes drinking coffee

hasty coral
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Seriously though they serve out of a “debt” to the emperor, they probably could give less of a shit about civilians, although that can be said about the imperium at large

lapis wadi
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Ogryn servo-skulls. Is that a thing?

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Staring blankly at a servo-skull on the Mourningstar as my slab got me thinking

celest dome
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Probably

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There are Servo Skulls made out of animals

lapis wadi
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Silliness:
Despite all the micro-cogitator arrays stuffed into it, it remains sluggish and somewhat dimwitted, knocking aside it's cranial kin rather than routing around them and engaging in Direct Impact Protocols when endangered. The sole advantage the pattern has is it will outlast it's creator. And it's inheiritor.

arctic talon
balmy tusk
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Haven't seen any ogryn servo-skulls, but doesn't mean it isn't possible

queen laurel
balmy tusk
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Could probably handwave the lack of them by saying they're sub-optimal, since they're heavy enough to require extra power in order to maintain lift, and they simultaneously lack the space for cogitative hardware

green loom
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Which is one of Lorgar's titles

rose thorn
queen laurel
celest dome
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There the Lobo Servitor still

queen laurel
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Classic in the imperium

celest dome
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The Lobo are the only one that are technically Servitors

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The rest are just Augmented

rose thorn
queen laurel
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i mean there are normal ogryn servitors out there

celest dome
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Macro Servitor

jade holly
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So I’m gonna need an explanation on this cause idk if this is a fan made legion or not, but what the Hell are Noise Marines

celest dome
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Noise Marines are Space Marines of the Emperor's Children that use some Xenotech Sonic Weapony

jade holly
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You know, I’d expect the guys all about sound and being loud to be a chapter in Word Bearers

celest dome
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Kakophonies, also known as Cacophonies were specialized troops utilized by the Emperor's Children Space Marine Legion early in the Horus Heresy.[1]
First developed upon the corruption of the Legion as well as their Primarch Fulgrim in the aftermath of the Battle of Isstvan III, practices and experiments that had once been long secret were unleas...

queen laurel
queen laurel
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The sounds it blasts are often horrific mixtures of the sounds they find appealing

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screaming civilians that are burning

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People crying

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people saying to stop the torture

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something like that

jade holly
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So not funny metal band in 40k

queen laurel
queen laurel
celest dome
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There are also some Noise Cultist, who also use and make such weapons

queen laurel
jade holly
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Ngl, if I look up more about Noise Marines I may have to break up with mah DG

storm jungle
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Noise Marines are awesome but they are kinda super neglected.

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will probably get some more love once we get the Emperor's Children model revamp sometime this year or so

queen laurel
storm jungle
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yeah i dont even remember how old the current noise marine models are, lemme check

keen stratus
storm jungle
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2002

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jesus christ

hasty coral
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For SLAANESH

keen stratus
keen stratus
queen laurel
storm jungle
hasty coral
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Why are they wearing ANYTHING????

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It’s SLAANESH

storm jungle
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Because this isnt a porn game

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yall mfers need to calm down btw

hasty coral
storm jungle
keen stratus
queen laurel
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I hear another Slannesh is just about lust, i'm gonna commit crimes so atrocious even night lords will become impressed

storm jungle
hasty coral
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It isn’t JUST lust

keen stratus
hasty coral
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I suppose but I think lust itself is more indulgent than seduction

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Although I guess it CAN be argued so it works for modesty sake

keen stratus
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and now its when dilara tells us that sex becomes bored quicly with slaanesh

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cause thats what she always does

hasty coral
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I don’t care much for horny

storm jungle
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sorry that needs to be said all the time KEKW_ogryn

queen laurel
hasty coral
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Are their really fat Slaanesh demons because of gluttony?

queen laurel
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Hold on stay here

hasty coral
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Ok that’s what I assumed

keen stratus
hasty coral
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Because if they cover indulgence

keen stratus
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fatness is more a nurgle thing

hasty coral
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It’s kinda like the 7 deadly sins activity

keen stratus
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cause obesity its a disease

hasty coral
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A good point

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BUT

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Most diseases cause extreme atrophy

queen laurel
hasty coral
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A perfect encapsulation of vices and indulgence

queen laurel
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not the most subtle one now is it

hasty coral
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Although I still think Slaanesh is a pretty narratively weak Chaos God

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Like if they straight up vanished, would not care

keen stratus
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the honree

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hornee

hasty coral
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Maybe I’m just not the biggest fan

keen stratus
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dude imagine if slaanesh got acces to twitter

hasty coral
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It’s just not for me

keen stratus
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the world collapses

hasty coral
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But idk I just can’t find myself caring much about Slaanesh over the other 3 gigachads

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A Chaos God of fear would have gone HARD

forest orbit
hasty coral
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Let him cook

forest orbit
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no

keen stratus
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tzeentchs a bich

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youre fine

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next thing you know

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youre a shoe

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why?

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cause fuck it

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change

hasty coral
keen stratus
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thats why

hasty coral
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Tzeentch the shoe changer

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Bro messes up your socks

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Seriously though chaos god of fear????

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That would have been CRAZY

keen stratus
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thing with slaanesh is

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im horny

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and those daemonettes

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ufff

hasty coral
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Ok bro

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Shower

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Cleanse yourself

keen stratus
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thats literally what im about to do now

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cause its really fucking hot where i live

hasty coral
hasty coral
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Skill issue

keen stratus
forest orbit
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Can you knock it off already

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actual coomer lol

queen laurel
# hasty coral Ok bro

alright this is one of the rules of lore chat you need to remember, Boga Fe rather predictable

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you get used to it unfortunately

normal light
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Slaanesh followers shall not be allowed in any community Nurgle

arctic talon
broken zealot
broken zealot
rose thorn
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A lot of Slaanesh talk as of late spingryn

green loom
green loom
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End and the death spoilers, be warned

arctic talon
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The solitaire is balling

storm jungle
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Lmao god

storm jungle
green loom
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Here's the preview I'm reading

storm jungle
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AH damn

green loom
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It's making me want to read proper 40k again

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Which is a scary sign since I just don't have time for it

storm jungle
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good luck because these are like 500+ pages

grave sparrow
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audiobooks if you gotta job that allows it

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Audible loves me because I buy 3 new credits every week 😭

green loom
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I don't have a job, and thus no money for them frowncat

storm jungle
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Book got sold out in under a minute btw

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love scalpers

grave sparrow
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wait part 2 is already out??

arctic talon
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its a preview

wet sandal
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Wait do people unironically buy books

arctic talon
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yes

storm jungle
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yes

arctic talon
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don't you?

gusty mulch
arctic talon
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Idk I buy books from authors I enjoy

green loom
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There's an audio extract here

arctic talon
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I don't really buy that many 40k books heh

gusty mulch
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Dan Abbnett and Guy Haley best authors btw

wet sandal
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My lawyer has advised me not to elaborate

celest dome
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Do you pay your Lawyer ?

green loom
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||Books are notably harder to get ahold of than vidya||

gusty mulch
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Kidnap lawyers instead

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They legally can't say no

keen stratus
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im not that coomer

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its just that when someone mentions slaanesh

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i make a character

spare osprey
grave sparrow
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hard to dislike the authors who wrote the first 3 HH books, they were awesome

wet sandal
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It's actually quite easy (they contributed to hh)

keen stratus
wet sandal
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of life

keen stratus
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are the 500 hours of mind pumping action good?

green loom
wet sandal
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GOTY

broken zealot
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Do you think this hurts ?

green loom
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Not as much as a Deathmark's beam

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But probably yes

arctic talon
keen stratus
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what weapon is it?

green loom
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Gauss flayer

arctic talon
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er flayer

green loom
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Necron warrior gunnz

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It probably feels like the affected area just numbing

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Probably will still send you into shock and terrifiy you

wet sandal
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Wdym his face melted over the course of a second of course it fucking hurts

arctic talon
#

you pretty much get all your nerves fucking disintegrated

keen stratus
#

i need to ask, lorewise, hows the plasma gun?

arctic talon
#

you can't feel pain

#

if your nerves don't exist

arctic talon
#

if you overcharge it

#

it'll melt a marine in one shot as well

keen stratus
#

nice

arctic talon
#

The only things it can't reasonably deal with

keen stratus
#

here in darktide it doesnt melt you, but it explodes

arctic talon
#

well

#

thats just it overheating

#

which usually either gives you horrific burns

#

or just kills you instantly lol

keen stratus
#

ah right

#

whats the lore height of marine? cause in game the boltgun looks huge, but in boltgun (the game) where you use a marine, its just a regular assault rifle

broken zealot
#

Second necron question is the wiki right in that they are literally immortal and just teleport back to a tomb and get recycled until the decay takes away their sentience or is that just best case scenario if they don't take a extremely damaging/disintigrating hit ?

arctic talon
#

If you don't deal enough damage to a necron on the field

#

it'll just get right back up and keep on fighting

#

if you do enough damage the body will either teleport our for repair or the body is destroyed and the mind is preserved

#

accidents can occur but generally speaking the mind is intact

arctic talon
#

primaris are about 8 to 8.5 feet tall

arctic talon
#

its also very very jarring lore wise

keen stratus
broken zealot
#

Primarch Dunks and kills all human and lesser xeno spectators

keen stratus
#

we have pleasure

#

and pain

celest dome
arctic talon
#

True

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But it’s not that painful

grave sparrow
green loom
#

Finally listening to Gaunt's Ghosts

celest dome
arctic talon
#

👍

celest dome
#

Kruber and that Stormcast is basically me and my ex

#

Height wise

grave sparrow
# storm jungle

that human for reference is like 4'11", is mankind also stunted in growth in the far future of M41?

green loom
arctic talon
#

like more malnourished then Empire Pesants from fantasy

grave sparrow
#

Oh I know lol, I think the scale graph is just a lil misinformative as people/fans would compare themselves using that height to the primaris/storm cast

storm jungle
#

I mean stormcast/marines are still fucking massive

#

I think the person based it on the global scale of average height for men which tends to be around 170m/5ft or so

storm jungle
coarse pumice
#

people forget how tall 7' is and how big that would be on a non lanky frame

grave sparrow
#

global average height for everyone is still like 5'7"

I'm just nitpickin, it's not really important 😅

keen stratus
#

like i mean with you and your ex

#

in the height thing

celest dome
#

Im Kruber. Actually I'm even shorter than Kruber if 5 is 170

keen stratus
green loom
#

Ghosts are pretty good so far

nocturne crest
#

Seeing how the Scourged traitor chapter came into existence because they could hear every lie in the universe, would being able to hear all every truth likely drive a space marine chapter to chaos?

jade holly
#

Ngl I’m really liking the Noise Marines

#

Prob because I like rock and metal and they look pretty cool

gusty mulch
white solar
#

So. Im trying to figure out the specs for a bolter and how common it actually is in universe
And how common a space marine actually is. Bc as glory be as they are made to be, it almost seems like they are more a myth in actual canon, and them doing stuff is a point bc… well… warhammer seems like it cant chill for anything

arctic talon
#

Give or take a few hundred thousand

#

Which is tiny

white solar
#

Tiny compared to the size of the universe

arctic talon
#

tiny compared to the fucking imperium lol

#

the Imperium has a million worlds in it

#

give or take

#

since that number constantly fluctuates

#

99.9999% of the populace will die without having ever seen a space marine

grave sparrow
arctic talon
#

yeah that also lol

#

if you see a marine you're probably somewhere where you don't want to be lol

grave sparrow
#

or an aspirant, but most like what you said lol

arctic talon
#

because they only really show up in the shittiest of warzones

arctic talon
#

of the population lol

grave sparrow
#

oh hell it's probably even less than that, that's like... 1 in 10,000?

arctic talon
#

Prolly

#

I should have added a whole lot more 9's lol

#

you're infinitely more likely to see an Ork then a marine tbh

grave sparrow
#

Boltgun would be a lot more common to see though. Arbites, commissars, sisters of battle.

I mean none of which are probably a good thing to see either, but they're still a bit more common. Different specs on those boltguns though than space marine boltguns

arctic talon
#

Yeah

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Hell even guard veterans

grave sparrow
#

the squats even lol

#

Even some of the gangers on necromunda have their own patterns

arctic talon
#

Tbf

#

Necromunda is a huge outlier

#

For hiveworlds lol

white solar
#

Idk. Orks seem like the same boat as space marines.
If you see one, one of you are in the wrong place. Cause its either a lone ork about to tear stuff up or an infestation

arctic talon
#

Orks are very common

#

By an order of magnitude

grave sparrow
#

The guard can still do a decent job of standing up against Orks at least, unless it's a massive WAAAGHH

arctic talon
#

Yeah

#

PDFs fight feral orks quite often

grave sparrow
#

Tyranids though, if you see them you're probably gonna either die, see space marines, or see space marines and die

arctic talon
#

It’s like one of the main ways of training them fast

#

If you see nids

#

That’s like an apocalypse scenario

grave sparrow
#

Man, going through the lexicanum for bolter rounds makes me wish we get a Deathwatch version of Darktide. Could choose your chapter, boltgun pattern, bolter rounds, alternative weapons...

white solar
#

I was gonna say i thought tyrranids were one of those that either a) wiped you out and consumed you, or b) consumed you and wiped you out.
99% chance of being a casualty by seeing one, and being associated with a genestealer will get you disappeared with or wo you knowing about it. Which you wont anyways

grave sparrow
#

or getting melted by the world eater virus lol

#

but yeah, unless the world has ample time to prepare before the hive fleet starts planetfall, you're screwed

white solar
#

But yeah. Boltguns.
Impact grenades in bullet form?
And rare, but not unheard of

grave sparrow
#

Yeah, kinda. They have a propellant charge like you see in standard firearms, and then basically have a small rocket to accelerate the projectile. Armor piercing tip and an explosive charge. So they're like... rocket assisted armor piercing high explosive rounds lol

#

that's the standard round at least. Said to be .75 caliber

white solar
#

Imagine if a CoD anti-vehicle sniper wasnt bolt action, and much more graphic than the funny ragdoll

#

Is what im getting

grave sparrow
#

Probably? I haven't played CoD since world at war lol

#

but yeah, they usually completely destroy their target. Like a human getting hit by one gets blown apart into little strips of meat

white solar
#

Meant to penetrate sheets of metal. Yeah

grave sparrow
#

There's some fun bits of lore of human civilizations that fought against the Imperium during the Great Crusade having some really good armor, but the bolter rounds would still penetrate and basically just liquify the guy inside as the armor would contain the blast

#

or that might've been during the HH when the traitor legions were taking over Imperium planets that still had their unique technology pre-Imperium

white solar
#

So apparently
The more “common” versions of boltguns are not as… destructive as normal astartes boltguns.
Only bc the recoil would literally tear a normal persons arm off. But its still anti everything, for the most part.

grave sparrow
#

yeah, they're very multi-purpose lol

white solar
#

Intimidating casings

hasty coral
#

So what are the chances dream Psyker actually has a fragment of the Emperor in their head?

arctic talon
#

But it’ll give you an awful fucking bruise and might break a bone

#

The tearing your arm off thing isn’t canon

#

All that’s said is that a human can’t effectively fire one and it isn’t practical

#

The one instance we have of a marine weapon tearing someone’s arm off while using it was a coazius that was malfunctioning

#

Alright I’m done being 🤓

hasty coral
#

How good would a team of 4 space marines fair in the missions our motley groups go on?

#

Because Plague Ogryns and Beasts of Nurgle especially are no fucking joke

grave sparrow
#

Depends if they have a name or not

arctic talon
#

Lore wise well

#

They’d do great into most of the things we fight

#

Only big issues are the plague ogryn and beast of nurgle

hasty coral
#

Chaos spawns aren’t nearly as dangerous as those two

#

Lore wise

arctic talon
#

Traitor captain with plasma pistol and power weapon lore wise also has a weapon that can easily pierce their armor so that’s a threat

arctic talon
hasty coral
#

Plague Ogryns especially are often toted as “nigh unkillable” (although obviously hyperbole, and relative to weapons used)

#

But it’s a fucking Nurgle Ogryn

#

I don’t need to tell you how resilient that shit is

#

How about a single custodes?

arctic talon
#

Strongest is the beast of nurgle by far

#

We shouldn’t even survive contact with it

grave sparrow
#

Custodes would probably fare even better than a 4 man astartes team

arctic talon
hasty coral
#

Damn is the traitor captain THAT strong???

arctic talon
#

He’s like

grave sparrow
#

Custodes should completely wipe the floor with the traitor captain though

arctic talon
#

Genuinely horrifying lore wise lol

queen laurel
grave sparrow
#

a standard astartes should be able to decimate the captain too

queen laurel
#

even then that guy has anti armor melee

arctic talon
#

Like a single shot would kill any of us

#

Instantly lore wise

#

Same with his melee

#

The shotgun maul guy is less deadly

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

But the power maul should still kill us

#

Yeah the fact they have functioning refractor fields either means they were very high ranking

#

Or salvaged a functioning one somehow

grave sparrow
#

hell, we should be getting corrupted by just hearing the poxwalkers lol

arctic talon
#

Tbf

#

That one can be warded off

#

With enough mental willpower

#

But getting caught in melee with a pox walker would be nasty

grave sparrow
#

True, plus every character is literally a named character so we got that gucchi plot armor lol

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

But we have body armor

hasty coral
#

Well it’s a question of if the lore is dumb or the plot armor is dumb.

grave sparrow
#

the plot armor is dumb, but it makes for a fun game

arctic talon
#

Meh we see guardsmen resist the walking pox

hasty coral
#

Because even the pox walkers need to be insta kill plague op

arctic talon
#

And if we didn’t have plot armor

#

We’d instantly die to like

#

A lot of things

#

Sniper should instantly kill everyone but the Psyker

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

Yeah

#

That also

#

Plague ogryn would have us puking our guts out

hasty coral
#

Pretty sure an Ogryn could survive a las sniper and plasma gun shot no?

arctic talon
#

The scab gunners are using hotshot valley guns

hasty coral
#

Or at least not instantly fall over dead

arctic talon
grave sparrow
#

Depends on where the ogryn gets hit

arctic talon
#

^

#

Headshot they’re dead

hasty coral
#

Headshot obviously

arctic talon
#

Charged Plasma gun shots to the head == instant death for marines

grave sparrow
#

but probably not either way. Plasma gonna smoke an ogryn, sniper to a vital body part gonna smoke an orgyn

hasty coral
#

Center mass

#

No heart

arctic talon
#

Center mass it’ll hurt like hell and be one or two shots

#

Or a single overcharged one

#

Overcharged plasma blows marines open

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

Yeah it’s a nice carapace armor potentially

queen laurel
#

The damage a naked one would receive is even more dangerous

arctic talon
#

But it might just be fancy flak

hasty coral
#

Cosmetics aside

queen laurel
#

they are tough but they are not invincible

arctic talon
#

Generally speaking

#

Very high quality flak and carapace

hasty coral
#

Yeah

arctic talon
#

Granted

grave sparrow
hasty coral
#

I mean we are decently high ranking in the inquisition by the end

arctic talon
#

But the scab gunners are using a hotshot volley gun lol

#

That should

#

Probably blow a hole through us

hasty coral
#

What’s hotshot volley?

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

It’s a lasgun designed to penetrate power armor

queen laurel
#

favoring armor piercing

arctic talon
#

And be very high fire rate

#

Hotshot volley guns are also way more expensive in lore then a normal hotshot lasgun

#

So we’d prolly see less gunners with them

hasty coral
#

How strong against most las guns are marine armor really?

arctic talon
#

Seeing as they’re most likely a storm trooper equivalent

queen laurel
arctic talon
queen laurel
#

that's what the backpacks of the gunners are

arctic talon
#

Or being incredibly lucky

#

Barring a few weird exceptions in lore

#

early gaunts ghosts

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

That also

grave sparrow
#

Eye lenses and joint armor have a chance of penetrating

arctic talon
#

Eye sockets

queen laurel
#

even then those places are notoriously still pretty tough

arctic talon
#

Is the big one

#

"The Legionnaire that scoffs at a lasgun has not charged across an open field against a hundred of them."

hasty coral
#

Bolters vs hotguns and plasma guns

arctic talon
#

is a quote from a veteran of the black legion lol

hasty coral
#

How dangerous?

arctic talon
#

Bolters > hotshot

#

Plasma gun > bolter

grave sparrow
#

meltagun > plasma gun?

arctic talon
#

a plasma gun is a straight upgrade in killing power from a bolter in every single way

#

melta gun is a sidegrade imo

#

way more killing power

#

but that thing has way less range

#

and is slower firing

grave sparrow
#

shorter range, yeah lol

arctic talon
#

however

hasty coral
#

Well it’s superheated gas

arctic talon
#

they're lore wise easier to fire from the hip

#

then a plasma gun

hasty coral
#

Cool

#

You guys are pretty smart headed

arctic talon
#

I read too much

hasty coral
#

Where would you like Darktide to go next?

#

Enemies

#

Maps

grave sparrow
#

my brain is smooth and has too much 40k lore in it

hasty coral
#

Etc?

#

What would be lore feasible

#

And fun

arctic talon
#

Map wise I'd like more of anything in the exposed hive areas tbh

#

Enemy wise we've already jumped ship because of the beast of nurgle being fightable

#

so why not add a plague bearer

hasty coral
#

Plague marine elites?

arctic talon
#

Plague marines are

#

kind of stupidly overpowered

celest dome
#

No Space Marine in Darktide

arctic talon
#

also yeah fatshark has said that

#

no space marines in darktide of any kind

#

well I guess there's the statue

#

lol

celest dome
#

SM would have worked as a Lord maybe

#

Still need a Dreg Sorcerer Lord

arctic talon
#

also I'd like more dreg specialists and dregs yeah

#

they don't have a crusher, mauler, sniper, bomber ect.

#

equivelent

grave sparrow
#

Would love like a summoner enemy boss

hasty coral
#

I know it’s not happening but imagine we get special missions from Guilliman with some mission director dialogue

celest dome
#

Plaguebearer should be the Ogryn equivalent for Dreg

hasty coral
#

That would be cool

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

give us a few of these guys as ogryn equivelents for dregs

celest dome
arctic talon
#

not super lore compliant but shrugpriest

#

beast of nurgle exists

#

might as well have some fun heh

hasty coral
#

But it would be cool

queen laurel
hasty coral
#

To have some cool named characters

queen laurel
#

Also GW would straight up not even allow that

celest dome
#

Explain it by the Dreg having knowledge about rituals and stuff.
Boom you have Plaguebearer available.
With Bilrpiper as special and Herald as lord

arctic talon
#

the Moebian 6th having trappers is really weird ngl

#

then again they might have formed post chaos corruption

#

rather then have existed already before it

hasty coral
#

Are trappers special?

grave sparrow
#

that'd make a lot of sense, capture people for corruption

hasty coral
#

Like lore units?

arctic talon
#

not really

#

they're just an odd thing to be in a military group

queen laurel
grave sparrow
#

Imperium having trappers is just weird. They don't really take prisoners.

arctic talon
#

they're a non lethal unit that entierly relies on disabling people

queen laurel
#

same with the moSame with the mauler

celest dome
#

Nett guns exist but aren't really used by the IG

arctic talon
#

The mauler could happen in a regiment

#

as a CQB specialist

hasty coral
#

Those most be some strong ass nets though

arctic talon
#

we see a mauler with a shotgun in the cinematic as well

#

tbf the net is electrified

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

your nerves are prolly seizing up

#

the maulers switching to chain axes could just be sigh of chaos influence

#

making them more blood thirsty

hasty coral
#

A seizing Ogryn though?

white solar
#

Wasnt it said there were roughly 1m astartes? 1k chapters, 1k units per chapter?

queen laurel
hasty coral
#

Yeah I don’t think it’s JUST Nurgle there

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

the Moebian Sixth seem much more undivided

arctic talon
#

then nurgle aligned specifically

#

the Dregs are absolutely nurgle aligned

hasty coral
#

I would love to see some different chaos worshippers

queen laurel
hasty coral
#

Hive cities have enough people to be corrupted for a horde

#

For not JUST Nurgle

arctic talon
#

tbf

hasty coral
#

Khrone would be so fun

queen laurel
#

Like they can pray to khorne for extra power or tzeentch to make the powers of the warp into their favor

arctic talon
#

Khorne, Slaanesh and Tzeentch don't lend to a horde as much

hasty coral
#

Maybe a full pin charger special

arctic talon
#

compared to nurgle

hasty coral
#

No not AS much

#

But I could see Khrone

#

Bloodthirsty citizens

#

Looking for blood

queen laurel
celest dome
arctic talon
#

yeah

#

not saying you can't

grave sparrow
#

I feel like the gods other than nurgle require more direct attention to be effective. Like nurgle has his diseases, doesn't really require much effort

arctic talon
#

just that it doesn't lend as well to it

hasty coral
#

I just think there is too much Nurgle in the games right now

arctic talon
#

Death guard were the big bad of 8e

hasty coral
#

I ADORE Nurgle don’t get me wrong

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

yeah

hasty coral
#

But we do have 3 other gods

arctic talon
#

tbf

#

tzeentch is gona be in space marine 2

grave sparrow
#

spoilers 😦

hasty coral
arctic talon
#

not a spoiler it was in the trailer

#

and its in one of the teaser images as well

hasty coral
arctic talon
#

no

#

its like

#

a full blown blue and purple sky

grave sparrow
#

I avoid trailers for games I'm excited for like the plague lol

arctic talon
#

so unless its a weird as shit warpstorm

hasty coral
#

Tzeentch sounds fun

arctic talon
#

its gona be tzeentch

queen laurel
hasty coral
#

Nice

arctic talon
#

Tzaangors are going to show up

#

💀

hasty coral
#

Named space marine

#

Fodder

arctic talon
#

Run from it

#

dread it

#

Tzangors arrive all the same

#

in every tzeentch related boxset

hasty coral
#

Bird cow demons

celest dome
#

I quite like Tzaangor.
I think they could do a good melee Elite if we got Tzeentch in DT

hasty coral
#

💀

arctic talon
#

Tzaangors are super cool

#

don't get me wrong

#

they're just in every goddamn tzeentch related box lol

#

also they aren't daemons

hasty coral
#

Yeah non hordes would have to be stuff like Tzeentch

arctic talon
#

they're abhumans/mutants technically

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

or tzeentch cultists who get too in touch with their wild side

hasty coral
#

Seriously though Darktide is too successful for cool shit not to get put in

arctic talon
#

one of 2 ways to have a tzaangor pop up

queen laurel
hasty coral
#

GW needs to CEASE with their breathing down necks

#

They are literally just damaging their own ip

arctic talon
#

They aren’t really

hasty coral
#

How in the fuck did canceling multiple high quality fan projects IMPROVE the brand quality

arctic talon
#

the funny SODAZ death threat incident

hasty coral
arctic talon
#

Also TTS was clearly experiencing burnout in general

hasty coral
#

True

arctic talon
#

It’s pretty evident from what the VAs had said

#

Imo alfabusa lost interest

hasty coral
#

But that’s not an excuse for the outcome

queen laurel
#

so it's better he got recruited by them to be honest

arctic talon
#

He didn’t join tho

#

And the community sent him death threats

#

💀

queen laurel
hasty coral
#

Didn’t he get hired?

arctic talon
#

The community literally shot themselves in the foot

arctic talon
queen laurel
#

what did GW just do

arctic talon
#

Lol

hasty coral
#

Wait what

arctic talon
hasty coral
#

Explain

arctic talon
#

He posted something on his YouTube channel on how he was thinking about the offer but wasn’t sure

#

And then he got a bunch of death threats from the community

hasty coral
#

OH SHIT

#

You right

arctic talon
#

And then he took down all his warhammer videos

hasty coral
arctic talon
#

I wonder why

hasty coral
#

No he literally just quit

#

Damn

#

This community is the worst

arctic talon
#

Yeah I don’t blame him

#

At all lol

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

And then People saying GW made him take his videos down 💀

hasty coral
#

Remember the inclusivity incident?

queen laurel
#

it's just that the community decided to become pieces of shits

hasty coral
#

💀

arctic talon
#

That’s a real 💀from me

#

Regarding sodaz

hasty coral
#

Really made GW’s point by the reaction

#

To the statement

arctic talon
#

And people really like sucking their own cock regarding SODAZ taking his animations down

hasty coral
arctic talon
#

Because clearly it’s all GW’s fault

#

That the uh

median marsh
#

"what's that? Content creator got an offer to actually get paid for their work?! BLASPHEMY"

arctic talon
#

Community sent death threats

#

To a content creator

#

Mmm yes