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I'd look at the Acolyte list from Inquisitors
As the base acolytes then adding in 1 or 2 normal level Xenos
Well well I already have two members that I don't think is too out of place
a heavily modified Ambot
and an Ork Blood Axe
Then I would say no more Xenos
An ork is the most sus member you can have unless you got a really good way to hide em yeah.
just tell them it's a weird ogryn
Problem solved
Alright next human members
But I would add at least 1 or 2 Admech, most likely a Tech Priest and some lower ranked one (Electro Priest, Skitarii or even Servitor)
Yeah you need to keep the ship running
So maybe two tech priests that considered themselves brothers
No Sister, but some Void-Masters and Militant
of course we also need the navigator of course
we can't fly into the warp without one
Sure, also could have some Psykers, either some themed on Telepathy or on Divination
OK so this is my crew so far
An ork kommando nob that comes from my custom llan just to make it easier for me to remember
The yellow the Ambot Tiny
two tech priests
a militant
and a navigator
do i need anything else to make it proper rogue trader ish
And of course the void masters how could I forget
I had a radical Inquisitor who runs operations through a 7000+ Viper-class ship, and to avoid the lack of manpower and information leak at the face of a real crew she has a deal with some non-chaos hereteks and a few votann outcasts who give her their services by making most of the ship automated with either proper tech or servitors

so get creative
OK **** it I'm adding my ogryn into this
Time to get creative without making it cringe
whoops not heretics, meant hereteks
Maybe some Pilot leader and stuff
OK the driver for the ship
yeah that part is covered by my ogryn and Ambot
That's just an Arch Militant (And/Or a Void-master
OK for the ship I'm going with the exorcist grand cruiser
What is the topic?
I'm making a rogue trader because I'm bored
How it’s going?
i got a pretty solid foundation
Ok
i'm going to name the ship vengeance of the fallen
Alright I have a very solid foundation time to come up with something thanks for the help
With a ship name like that the dark angels might be sniffing around
alright so which planet is known to have the best food?
now im imagining an Ork wearing a mask with a very crude drawing of a human
"Me? I aint no ork, am 'umie!"
yeah i'm just going to pull the card that it's a very weird shaped ogryn
probably will not work most of the time but hey i have a reason
"he fell into a vat of green paint when he was small, so now his skin is permanently green. Why does he have tusks? dont question it"
said Lilith Sallowgard
Nah, the tusk are alright
kinda wish we had an ogryn power fist
like
what if i just wanna punch shit
REALLY HARD
i dont mean the xplosive weapon
i mean like
power sword
but FIST
or, idk, rocket powered FIST
Sounds about right
They'll 100% add these once they run out of weapon ideas for ogryn, not that there's alot to begin with 💀
But no ranged weapon 
It can be done
I think for ease of animations they would do something like this
Adapting them to Gauntlets to avoid the difficulties
He could be in this very room
He could be any one of us


whos the worst chaoss god to be captured by? id say probably slaanesh
with khorne, you just get killed
ur dead
no big deal
with nurgle, ur decaying, yeah
but you also dont care soooooo
that leaves tzeench and slaanesh
both would do horrible things to your physical being
All of them are bad
its just kinda down to the people that captured you and how they want to kill you, they all can equally make it fast or slow, its way too dependant

As Saltz said, you should never grade evil
or else you'll find kinship with the least, yep
they can easily draw it out and have in many cases
what Dilara said, all of them are varying degrees of bad if you get captured lol
Literally all of them except khorne because at least you’ll die fast
also dope
single shot, long reload
like 10 ammo cap
when you fire, everything in a line just dies
Should those weapon still have a melee attack for the special ?
yeah, why not?
lascannons aren't fragile, they mount those things on tanks
high tech imperial weapons typically get more fragile or unstable the smaller they are
the heavy versions tend to be pretty okay
The most sensitive heavy weapon in the imperium is prolly like
Idk
The multi laser?
Those barrels look kinda fragile compared to other heavy weapons
even that goes on a tank
Yeah
There is a book where an Ogryn has a Plasma Cannon
Neat
But honestly I'd rather the Ogryn not get Plasma and Flamer
i'd be fine with plasma as an aoe
i like the plasma glow
listen the ogryn NEEDS a plasma cannon
what if we run into enemy tanks
also having just put some time into necromancer sienna i have this to say:
going back to vermintide 2 has REALLY made me appreciate the level design in darktide
That I wouldn't be against
it's too bad there's no real necromancer faction in 40k, the vampire counts aesthetic in space would be fantastic
As I want the Ogryn to have an adapted Rock Saw
vampire hunter D type beat
Yeah VT2 is hard for me to play 
Everything is much slower and choppier imo
i love the level design in vt2, don't get me wrong
but wow they did an incredible job with darktide
I saw someone saying that Deathwing: SH should influence Darktide 
haw
Deathwing is a shit game

Only thing that’s cool is the art design and the fact you feel bulky and slow
i think streumon makes cool looking games but i've never seen them bring a game together mechanically
it's interesting to play them because they're usually full of good ideas, but they never really work out in practice
Deathwing where terminator armor is made of paper
that's accurate
Have you seen chaosgate daemonhunters lol
Heavy stubber cultist
The deadliest of all
Ive played it
genestealers tear terminators to shreds
I think a Deathwing 2 which take heavy inspiration on Darktide would be great.
And seeing that there were updates to the lore of both Dark Angels and Tyr
eh, streumon had their chance
first generation genestealers have no business being as strong as they are
I mean what would it cost us if more 40k game were made, like I wouldn't buy it at launch for sure but why not after it's been tested
Like eldar get a pass because they're psychic, but a genestealer patriarch is just so powerful that I cannot accept that it's an "animal" and not some kind of machine
Are you talking about pure strains
If I'm not mistaken, they're as fast as custodes
yeah pure strains, but the patriarch just kicks it up to 11
The patriarch is some weird evolution that takes place
But it’s a giant nid
It makes sense imo
Genestealers just don't work as like, biological creatures
Probably because they are engineered creatures

The heat a pyovore generates
Shush don't apply logic when I'm ranting
Is absurd
they are not naturally evolved yeah
no
Let me find arbitrary reasons to hate genestealers even more
they got claw tips that can tear open terminator armor
thus generate more salt
I love them ❤️
The Hive Mind did not intend for tyranids to THINK
"this is bullshit" said the guardsman.
"lol" said the genestealer. "lmao"
they are an abomination unto our God
Their guns aren't even made of meat!
i hope vet gets a pet subclass like necromancer sienna
I never found Tyr and GSC really any interesting tbh
Those are the cultists
🤓
Give us a tech adept that just had a bunch of servoskulls with guns
i think GSC are absolutely fascinating
And that’s their “summon”
functionally they are just imperial insurgents
Honestly yeah I think I just found my issue with genestealers
I'd rather see one set from Bardin's Engineer
there was some stuff in the early leaked code that indicated they had experimented with giving vet a pet subclass
if the patriarch got all the cultists together and handed out meat guns like "hello, my children, partake of my munitions, which I have grown in my fleshy tumor sack" and then the cultists ran around as normal dudes with a stomach acid supersoaker
yeah I'd like that
although to be frank it would be insanely cool if every class got a pet subclass
You lean the early datamine ? That was people missreading stuff
yeah datamine, i misspoke
my brain is fried
i've played 40 hours of rimworld in the last 3 days
Yeah those were people reading things they wanted to read
Like how some people said that there are mention of GSC in the codes
Which is true
hear me out guys
But there is also mention of Nuln and Baltazar Gelt in the same file
Summon a servoskull with Guns
still, a pet class isn't out of the picture now that necromancer sienna exists
Oh god man I'm preparing to do a run where my only starting colonist is a 3 year old with biotech
I fear my own decisions
i love doing dumb insane challenges in rimworld
thriving in the worst possible places is so much fun
this is super off topic though lol

Blitz: Servo/Guardian Skull
Ability: Servitor
Keystone Gheistskull
I'm probably going to find a seed online to guarantee that he lands somewhere with a structure to sleep in
Yes I know
otherwise he'll just go crazy and get eaten by wolf
a Gheistskull would be cool
a tech priest dominus with a bunch of skitarii would be a completely unreasonable thing to ask for
however
i want it
I think they would be a cool spin for a Keystone
only issue is where the servitor would come from imo
but sounds fun
Same way the enemies do I would say
Honestly I feel like zealot would be better for a servo skull pet class, at least thematically
a tech priest mobilizing the uncorrupted servitors in the map is a neat idea
out a door would be cool
Servo skulls just come across as very ecclessiarchical
They are used but the main user are still the Admech
"oh yeah that's a floating dead guy, we could make a religion out of this"
The Ecclesiarchy prefer Cherubs
nah ecclesiarchy has-
mmmmm skulls
yeah, cherubs
Also yeah the ecclesiarchy like cherubs more
I'm pretty sure everyone who is rich has cherubs
then servoskulls
cherubs are the Iphone of 40k
For Zealot I could see Enforcer with a fused Ability/Keystone for a Petclass with a Cyber Mastiff
On the Preacher side I would say
The other getting a Crusader
I wonder how fatshark will rearrange the like
skill trees
if they're gona add more
I'd just add them to the side
the ecclesiarchy is allowed to mobilize followers for battle in emergency situations
The one that I'd like to be reshaped are the Ogryn and Psyker ones
Frateris milita
Missionary ?
right that was it
also ngl its kind of weird not all of the like paths are the same
like visually speaking its cool
zealot leading a bunch of frateris militia would be dope
idk what a psyker pet subclass could be
wyrdvanes?
Probably just Assail
I think the most fun addition that could be in the game would be letting an ogryn blitz be picking up the nearest small enemy, like a poxwalker or hound, and just throwing it, like directly into an enemy, into a pit, whatever, just yeet
hard agree
i'd also like it if ogryn was allowed to pick up all the barrels laying around the map
I'd agree but I think they won't do it for animation sake
You'd need a new ogryn anim but the enemy could just ragdoll and I think people would like that more
I would love to see the Rock sometime just have a Crusher helmet or something though
Do you think this should make this canon?
I prefer Visarch/Yvraine
No
They’ve talked with each other once in canon
and both are off doing their own thing anyways
Original story: https://www.deviantart.com/brett-neufeld/art/Thank-You-color-269764771
Added story:
what does urism mean
"to honour the yurism before (primarch) before he left"
mishearing this 🤔
You know what I find funny,.
Did you look in the mirror?
No that people ship Guilliman and Yvraine as a loving couple while Gabriel and Macha is more like Sonic and Amy .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIOv1LTEEnk This sums up their dynamic in Dawn of War 3
From the episode "The Hot Date"
YEa Gabe to me seems like a guy who is married to his work.
God no. The entire premise behind it is absolutely fucking ridiculous. They literally have two conversations.
Warhammer fans are so painfully parasocial that to them; talking to a woman twice is confirmation that you're now married
In their defense I would think the kind of people who play 40K are not the kind of people who are socially active.
You also presume that there's 1:1 overlap between people who play 40k and people who care about 40k lore and people who make 40k art
You have a point I mean the Guilliman X Yvraine ship orginated in of all places 1d4chan.
Do psykers use their powers casually? like if they dont feel like holding their mug and just make it float?
yes
there's levels of using psychic powers
While yes there us levels to Psychic powers I think most people wouldn't do that. As using the Warp (or the winds in fantasy ) is quite dangerous
tbf the question was do in general
there's some psykers who's ego's are more then big enough to do that
if it's worth doing, it's worth risking your immortal soul to do it with cool mind powers
this includes drinking coffee
Krieg soldiers caring about anything but their deaths

Seriously though they serve out of a “debt” to the emperor, they probably could give less of a shit about civilians, although that can be said about the imperium at large
Ogryn servo-skulls. Is that a thing?
Staring blankly at a servo-skull on the Mourningstar as my slab got me thinking
Silliness:
Despite all the micro-cogitator arrays stuffed into it, it remains sluggish and somewhat dimwitted, knocking aside it's cranial kin rather than routing around them and engaging in Direct Impact Protocols when endangered. The sole advantage the pattern has is it will outlast it's creator. And it's inheiritor.
Don’t see why not personally
Haven't seen any ogryn servo-skulls, but doesn't mean it isn't possible
I mean they get turned into servitors, their body composition is basically just that of a giant human so it can happen
Could probably handwave the lack of them by saying they're sub-optimal, since they're heavy enough to require extra power in order to maintain lift, and they simultaneously lack the space for cogitative hardware
Probably thinking "The Urizen"
Which is one of Lorgar's titles
Both of those are actually just normal ogryn slaves
yeah servitor slaves
There the Lobo Servitor still
Classic in the imperium
The Lobo are the only one that are technically Servitors
The rest are just Augmented
Only the lobo slave is the servitors
ok that's good to know
i mean there are normal ogryn servitors out there
So I’m gonna need an explanation on this cause idk if this is a fan made legion or not, but what the Hell are Noise Marines
Noise Marines are Space Marines of the Emperor's Children that use some Xenotech Sonic Weapony
Slannesh marines
You know, I’d expect the guys all about sound and being loud to be a chapter in Word Bearers

They were those guy
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Kakophoni
Kakophonies, also known as Cacophonies were specialized troops utilized by the Emperor's Children Space Marine Legion early in the Horus Heresy.[1]
First developed upon the corruption of the Legion as well as their Primarch Fulgrim in the aftermath of the Battle of Isstvan III, practices and experiments that had once been long secret were unleas...
as cactus said, they use extremely loud Sonic weaponry
KAKOPHONI? 
The sounds it blasts are often horrific mixtures of the sounds they find appealing
screaming civilians that are burning
People crying
people saying to stop the torture
something like that
So not funny metal band in 40k
No it's not funny considering that larger versions of these guns can make loud noises strong enough to destroy tanks
Must be one Hell of a concert
oh yeah it is
There are also some Noise Cultist, who also use and make such weapons
go back to your palace you Daemonette
Ngl, if I look up more about Noise Marines I may have to break up with mah DG
Noise Marines are awesome but they are kinda super neglected.
will probably get some more love once we get the Emperor's Children model revamp sometime this year or so
Oh look GW neglecting something awesome.
I am totally shocked
yeah i dont even remember how old the current noise marine models are, lemme check
At least im more sexy than you
yeah, we are old
yeah, cause she thirsts
And I'm pretty sure there are models that are older than that right

It's not
im calmed, this guys nervous
I hear another Slannesh is just about lust, i'm gonna commit crimes so atrocious even night lords will become impressed
If you are gonna keep up the horny shit go to #darktide-memes
It isn’t JUST lust
no, shes about seduction, little good clothes can be more seductive than nothing at all
I suppose but I think lust itself is more indulgent than seduction
Although I guess it CAN be argued so it works for modesty sake
and now its when dilara tells us that sex becomes bored quicly with slaanesh
cause thats what she always does
I don’t care much for horny
Yeah because its literally what Slaanesh is and the misconception due to internet coomers is kinda tiring.
sorry that needs to be said all the time 
When they first read slaanesh I'm pretty sure the first thing they can think about is the horny because they can't have it in real life
Are their really fat Slaanesh demons because of gluttony?
yeah
Hold on stay here
Ok that’s what I assumed
yeah me neither
Because if they cover indulgence
fatness is more a nurgle thing
It’s kinda like the 7 deadly sins activity
cause obesity its a disease
this guy is from age of sigmar but it's still basically the same thing
Now THATS Slaanesh
A perfect encapsulation of vices and indulgence
Yeah and his name is literally Glutos Orscollion
not the most subtle one now is it
Although I still think Slaanesh is a pretty narratively weak Chaos God
Like if they straight up vanished, would not care
yeah but
the honree
hornee
Maybe I’m just not the biggest fan
dude imagine if slaanesh got acces to twitter
It’s just not for me
the world collapses
But idk I just can’t find myself caring much about Slaanesh over the other 3 gigachads
A Chaos God of fear would have gone HARD
the fuck does that have to do with anything
Let him cook
no
nah
tzeentchs a bich
youre fine
next thing you know
youre a shoe
why?
cause fuck it
change

thats why
Tzeentch the shoe changer

Bro messes up your socks
Seriously though chaos god of fear????
That would have been CRAZY
Where the fuck do you live 
argentina
does this changes your opinion?
alright this is one of the rules of lore chat you need to remember, Boga Fe rather predictable
you get used to it unfortunately
Slaanesh followers shall not be allowed in any community 
he's beautiful
this is the only redeeming slaneesh feature
A lot of Slaanesh talk as of late 
Goals
End and the death spoilers, be warned
The solitaire is balling
Lmao god
Post more spoilers as they come along, I need the juicy bits

Here's the preview I'm reading
AH damn
It's making me want to read proper 40k again
Which is a scary sign since I just don't have time for it
good luck because these are like 500+ pages
audiobooks if you gotta job that allows it
Audible loves me because I buy 3 new credits every week 😭
I don't have a job, and thus no money for them 
wait part 2 is already out??
its a preview
Wait do people unironically buy books
yes
yes
Do you not?
Idk I buy books from authors I enjoy
There's an audio extract here
I don't really buy that many 40k books heh
Dan Abbnett and Guy Haley best authors btw
My lawyer has advised me not to elaborate
Do you pay your Lawyer ?
||Books are notably harder to get ahold of than vidya||
im joking dont worry
im not that coomer
its just that when someone mentions slaanesh
i make a character
Depends on the price
I'd put Graham Mcneill up there too
hard to dislike the authors who wrote the first 3 HH books, they were awesome
It's actually quite easy (they contributed to hh)
Dude, hows gorbino's quest?
of life
are the 500 hours of mind pumping action good?

GOTY
lore wise not really
I think maybe not, if it just desintegrates you
what weapon is it?
Gauss flayer
er flayer
Necron warrior gunnz
It probably feels like the affected area just numbing
Probably will still send you into shock and terrifiy you
Wdym his face melted over the course of a second of course it fucking hurts
you pretty much get all your nerves fucking disintegrated
i need to ask, lorewise, hows the plasma gun?
exactly
It can be used to bust tank armor and instantly kills pretty much anything smaller then a marine
if you overcharge it
it'll melt a marine in one shot as well
nice
The only things it can't reasonably deal with
here in darktide it doesnt melt you, but it explodes
well
thats just it overheating
which usually either gives you horrific burns
or just kills you instantly lol
ah right
whats the lore height of marine? cause in game the boltgun looks huge, but in boltgun (the game) where you use a marine, its just a regular assault rifle
Second necron question is the wiki right in that they are literally immortal and just teleport back to a tomb and get recycled until the decay takes away their sentience or is that just best case scenario if they don't take a extremely damaging/disintigrating hit ?
you cannot kill a necron without destroying the tomb/reanimation sarcophogi
If you don't deal enough damage to a necron on the field
it'll just get right back up and keep on fighting
if you do enough damage the body will either teleport our for repair or the body is destroyed and the mind is preserved
accidents can occur but generally speaking the mind is intact
.
7 to 8 feet tall so 2.1 to 2.4 meters
primaris are about 8 to 8.5 feet tall
Awesome
its also very very jarring lore wise
so youre saying me a space marine basketball team its a posibility?
Primarch Dunks and kills all human and lesser xeno spectators
Join Us
we have pleasure
and pain
The split moment where they disapear should still be unpleasent
there's different patterns/sizes/calibers of boltguns, a normal human would not be able to effectively wield an astartes pattern boltgun.
So while the one in boltgun looks proportional to the Marines, it would still be considerably larger than the ones wielded by the convicts in Darktide
Finally listening to Gaunt's Ghosts
They are different makes of Bolters
👍
that human for reference is like 4'11", is mankind also stunted in growth in the far future of M41?
POV: stormcast comrade
human height varies heavily from world to world, some peopel are super malnourished
like more malnourished then Empire Pesants from fantasy
Oh I know lol, I think the scale graph is just a lil misinformative as people/fans would compare themselves using that height to the primaris/storm cast
I mean stormcast/marines are still fucking massive
I think the person based it on the global scale of average height for men which tends to be around 170m/5ft or so
I think the person based it on the global scale of average height for men which tends to be around 170m/5ft or so
people forget how tall 7' is and how big that would be on a non lanky frame
global average height for everyone is still like 5'7"
I'm just nitpickin, it's not really important 😅
whos kruber and whos stormcast?
like i mean with you and your ex
in the height thing
Im Kruber. Actually I'm even shorter than Kruber if 5 is 170
and why did he ended you? did he found a taller boy? /j
Ghosts are pretty good so far
Seeing how the Scourged traitor chapter came into existence because they could hear every lie in the universe, would being able to hear all every truth likely drive a space marine chapter to chaos?
Ngl I’m really liking the Noise Marines
Prob because I like rock and metal and they look pretty cool
I'll be honest, I never read his work
So. Im trying to figure out the specs for a bolter and how common it actually is in universe
And how common a space marine actually is. Bc as glory be as they are made to be, it almost seems like they are more a myth in actual canon, and them doing stuff is a point bc… well… warhammer seems like it cant chill for anything
There’s around a million or so marines
Give or take a few hundred thousand
Which is tiny
Tiny compared to the size of the universe
tiny compared to the fucking imperium lol
the Imperium has a million worlds in it
give or take
since that number constantly fluctuates
99.9999% of the populace will die without having ever seen a space marine
and if they do see one, they're probably gonna be killed within the next few moments as collateral damage unless the Space Marine is a jolly green giant lol
yeah that also lol
if you see a marine you're probably somewhere where you don't want to be lol
or an aspirant, but most like what you said lol
because they only really show up in the shittiest of warzones
again thats the .0001%
of the population lol
oh hell it's probably even less than that, that's like... 1 in 10,000?
Prolly
I should have added a whole lot more 9's lol
you're infinitely more likely to see an Ork then a marine tbh
Boltgun would be a lot more common to see though. Arbites, commissars, sisters of battle.
I mean none of which are probably a good thing to see either, but they're still a bit more common. Different specs on those boltguns though than space marine boltguns
The Boltgun, also commonly referred to as the Bolter, is the standard weapon of the Adeptus Astartes and Adepta Sororitas. A .75 caliber weapon, the boltgun works similarly to a grenade launcher firing a relatively small explosive; an initial ballistic charge launches the bolt in the same way as with an autogun, after which the explosive, commo...
the squats even lol
Even some of the gangers on necromunda have their own patterns
Idk. Orks seem like the same boat as space marines.
If you see one, one of you are in the wrong place. Cause its either a lone ork about to tear stuff up or an infestation
The guard can still do a decent job of standing up against Orks at least, unless it's a massive WAAAGHH
Tyranids though, if you see them you're probably gonna either die, see space marines, or see space marines and die
It’s like one of the main ways of training them fast
If you see nids
That’s like an apocalypse scenario
Man, going through the lexicanum for bolter rounds makes me wish we get a Deathwatch version of Darktide. Could choose your chapter, boltgun pattern, bolter rounds, alternative weapons...
I was gonna say i thought tyrranids were one of those that either a) wiped you out and consumed you, or b) consumed you and wiped you out.
99% chance of being a casualty by seeing one, and being associated with a genestealer will get you disappeared with or wo you knowing about it. Which you wont anyways
or getting melted by the world eater virus lol
but yeah, unless the world has ample time to prepare before the hive fleet starts planetfall, you're screwed
But yeah. Boltguns.
Impact grenades in bullet form?
And rare, but not unheard of
Yeah, kinda. They have a propellant charge like you see in standard firearms, and then basically have a small rocket to accelerate the projectile. Armor piercing tip and an explosive charge. So they're like... rocket assisted armor piercing high explosive rounds lol
that's the standard round at least. Said to be .75 caliber
Imagine if a CoD anti-vehicle sniper wasnt bolt action, and much more graphic than the funny ragdoll
Is what im getting
Probably? I haven't played CoD since world at war lol
but yeah, they usually completely destroy their target. Like a human getting hit by one gets blown apart into little strips of meat
Meant to penetrate sheets of metal. Yeah
There's some fun bits of lore of human civilizations that fought against the Imperium during the Great Crusade having some really good armor, but the bolter rounds would still penetrate and basically just liquify the guy inside as the armor would contain the blast
or that might've been during the HH when the traitor legions were taking over Imperium planets that still had their unique technology pre-Imperium
So apparently
The more “common” versions of boltguns are not as… destructive as normal astartes boltguns.
Only bc the recoil would literally tear a normal persons arm off. But its still anti everything, for the most part.
yeah, they're very multi-purpose lol
So what are the chances dream Psyker actually has a fragment of the Emperor in their head?
Low
It won’t tear your arm off
But it’ll give you an awful fucking bruise and might break a bone
The tearing your arm off thing isn’t canon
All that’s said is that a human can’t effectively fire one and it isn’t practical
The one instance we have of a marine weapon tearing someone’s arm off while using it was a coazius that was malfunctioning
Alright I’m done being 🤓
How good would a team of 4 space marines fair in the missions our motley groups go on?
Because Plague Ogryns and Beasts of Nurgle especially are no fucking joke
Depends if they have a name or not
Gameplay wise they’d absolutely clobber everything
Lore wise well
They’d do great into most of the things we fight
Only big issues are the plague ogryn and beast of nurgle
Traitor captain with plasma pistol and power weapon lore wise also has a weapon that can easily pierce their armor so that’s a threat
Chaos spawn is prolly the weakest monstrosity lore wise
Plague Ogryns especially are often toted as “nigh unkillable” (although obviously hyperbole, and relative to weapons used)
But it’s a fucking Nurgle Ogryn
I don’t need to tell you how resilient that shit is
How about a single custodes?
Custodes would probably fare even better than a 4 man astartes team
Lore wise they’d again be fine against everything but the beast of nurgle and traitor captain
Damn is the traitor captain THAT strong???
He has a power sword, a plasma gun and a refractor field
He’s like
Custodes should completely wipe the floor with the traitor captain though
Genuinely horrifying lore wise lol
Yeah
Those guys are skilled in combat, the only one that will have a bit of a problem dealing with space marines would be the one carrying the shotgun
a standard astartes should be able to decimate the captain too
even then that guy has anti armor melee
Like a single shot would kill any of us
Instantly lore wise
Same with his melee
The shotgun maul guy is less deadly
And the fact that they were able to salvage personal Shields
But the power maul should still kill us
Yeah the fact they have functioning refractor fields either means they were very high ranking
Or salvaged a functioning one somehow
hell, we should be getting corrupted by just hearing the poxwalkers lol
Tbf
That one can be warded off
With enough mental willpower
But getting caught in melee with a pox walker would be nasty
True, plus every character is literally a named character so we got that gucchi plot armor lol
Also I'm pretty sure the zealots pray a lot and hey faith can manifest as a power
But we have body armor
Well it’s a question of if the lore is dumb or the plot armor is dumb.
the plot armor is dumb, but it makes for a fun game
Meh we see guardsmen resist the walking pox
Because even the pox walkers need to be insta kill plague op
And if we didn’t have plot armor
We’d instantly die to like
A lot of things
Sniper should instantly kill everyone but the Psyker
Yeah we would have been reduced to nothing but bones the moment the beast swallowed us
Pretty sure an Ogryn could survive a las sniper and plasma gun shot no?
The scab gunners are using hotshot valley guns
Or at least not instantly fall over dead
Lore wise the answer is not really
Depends on where the ogryn gets hit
Headshot obviously
Charged Plasma gun shots to the head == instant death for marines
but probably not either way. Plasma gonna smoke an ogryn, sniper to a vital body part gonna smoke an orgyn
Center mass it’ll hurt like hell and be one or two shots
Or a single overcharged one
Overcharged plasma blows marines open
yeah probably the Ogryns the cinematic wearing body armor can survive a few
Yeah it’s a nice carapace armor potentially
The damage a naked one would receive is even more dangerous
But it might just be fancy flak
I have to assume lore wise our groups have inquisition level armor near the end of the story
Cosmetics aside
Which is flak or carapace
they are tough but they are not invincible
Yeah
Granted
I saw someone wearing it during the closed beta, it honestly didn't look as good as I thought it would
I mean we are decently high ranking in the inquisition by the end
But the scab gunners are using a hotshot volley gun lol
That should
Probably blow a hole through us
What’s hotshot volley?
extremely strong lasguns
It’s a lasgun designed to penetrate power armor
favoring armor piercing
And be very high fire rate
Hotshot volley guns are also way more expensive in lore then a normal hotshot lasgun
So we’d prolly see less gunners with them
How strong against most las guns are marine armor really?
Seeing as they’re most likely a storm trooper equivalent
Yeah they have greater range and power but at the cost of having to lug around a giant battery
Not dangerous unless in large quantities
that's what the backpacks of the gunners are
Or being incredibly lucky
Barring a few weird exceptions in lore
early gaunts ghosts
hitting armor weak points
That also
Eye lenses and joint armor have a chance of penetrating
Eye sockets
even then those places are notoriously still pretty tough
Is the big one
"The Legionnaire that scoffs at a lasgun has not charged across an open field against a hundred of them."
Bolters vs hotguns and plasma guns
is a quote from a veteran of the black legion lol
How dangerous?
meltagun > plasma gun?
a plasma gun is a straight upgrade in killing power from a bolter in every single way
melta gun is a sidegrade imo
way more killing power
but that thing has way less range
and is slower firing
shorter range, yeah lol
however
Well it’s superheated gas
I read too much
my brain is smooth and has too much 40k lore in it
Map wise I'd like more of anything in the exposed hive areas tbh
Enemy wise we've already jumped ship because of the beast of nurgle being fightable
so why not add a plague bearer
Plague marine elites?
No Space Marine in Darktide
also yeah fatshark has said that
no space marines in darktide of any kind
well I guess there's the statue
lol
also I'd like more dreg specialists and dregs yeah
they don't have a crusher, mauler, sniper, bomber ect.
equivelent
Would love like a summoner enemy boss
I know it’s not happening but imagine we get special missions from Guilliman with some mission director dialogue
Plaguebearer should be the Ogryn equivalent for Dreg
That would be cool
And of course they have bigger options
prolly
give us a few of these guys as ogryn equivelents for dregs
Why would Guilliman care about Atoma
not super lore compliant but 
beast of nurgle exists
might as well have some fun heh
this planet offers nothing to the imperium other than tanks with better armor
To have some cool named characters
Also GW would straight up not even allow that
Explain it by the Dreg having knowledge about rituals and stuff.
Boom you have Plaguebearer available.
With Bilrpiper as special and Herald as lord
the Moebian 6th having trappers is really weird ngl
then again they might have formed post chaos corruption
rather then have existed already before it
Are trappers special?
that'd make a lot of sense, capture people for corruption
Like lore units?
no it seems to be a moebian thing
Imperium having trappers is just weird. They don't really take prisoners.
they're a non lethal unit that entierly relies on disabling people
same with the moSame with the mauler
Nett guns exist but aren't really used by the IG
Those most be some strong ass nets though
Yeah couldn't be useful to push heavily defended areas with the very little damage
your nerves are prolly seizing up
the maulers switching to chain axes could just be sigh of chaos influence
making them more blood thirsty
A seizing Ogryn though?
Wasnt it said there were roughly 1m astartes? 1k chapters, 1k units per chapter?
Whispering of the blood God I suppose
Yeah I don’t think it’s JUST Nurgle there
yeah about a million
There's no point in being concerned about it because we can't even throw off a dog that we're literally bigger than
the Moebian Sixth seem much more undivided
True 
I would love to see some different chaos worshippers
yeah, and undivided would pray to a God to bless them depending on the situation
tbf
Khrone would be so fun
Like they can pray to khorne for extra power or tzeentch to make the powers of the warp into their favor
Khorne, Slaanesh and Tzeentch don't lend to a horde as much
Maybe a full pin charger special
compared to nurgle
yeah Even Khorne whose entire tactics boiled down into sending muscular idiots into you only send them really as groups of elites
Not as much but you could make one for about any of them
I feel like the gods other than nurgle require more direct attention to be effective. Like nurgle has his diseases, doesn't really require much effort
just that it doesn't lend as well to it
I just think there is too much Nurgle in the games right now
I ADORE Nurgle don’t get me wrong
The easiest enemy type to make is the dumb shambling horde after all
yeah
But we do have 3 other gods
spoilers 😦
THAT sounds fun
I avoid trailers for games I'm excited for like the plague lol
so unless its a weird as shit warpstorm
Tzeentch sounds fun
its gona be tzeentch
yeah their terminators are even going to appear
Nice
Run from it
dread it
Tzangors arrive all the same
in every tzeentch related boxset
Bird cow demons
I quite like Tzaangor.
I think they could do a good melee Elite if we got Tzeentch in DT
💀
Tzaangors are super cool
don't get me wrong
they're just in every goddamn tzeentch related box lol
also they aren't daemons
Yeah non hordes would have to be stuff like Tzeentch
they're abhumans/mutants technically
Yeah beastman that decided magic is funny
or tzeentch cultists who get too in touch with their wild side
Seriously though Darktide is too successful for cool shit not to get put in
one of 2 ways to have a tzaangor pop up
Even if fat sharks wants cool stuff, GW is literally breathing down their neck
GW needs to CEASE with their breathing down necks
They are literally just damaging their own ip
They aren’t really
How in the fuck did canceling multiple high quality fan projects IMPROVE the brand quality
Well for one, most of them didn’t get canceled by GW

the funny SODAZ death threat incident
They knew no one would take the chance
Also TTS was clearly experiencing burnout in general
True
But that’s not an excuse for the outcome
In the first place what can he do if he disagreed with the decision of the company is making animations for
so it's better he got recruited by them to be honest
really?
Didn’t he get hired?
The community literally shot themselves in the foot
No
what did GW just do
Lol
Wait what
They offered to hire him
Explain
He posted something on his YouTube channel on how he was thinking about the offer but wasn’t sure
And then he got a bunch of death threats from the community

and death threats
fuck
And then he took down all his warhammer videos
So in the first place he can still make the videos
And then People saying GW made him take his videos down 💀
Remember the inclusivity incident?
it's just that the community decided to become pieces of shits
💀
And people really like sucking their own cock regarding SODAZ taking his animations down

"what's that? Content creator got an offer to actually get paid for their work?! BLASPHEMY"



