#40k-lore-chat

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jade holly
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I know they’re based on the Nomadic cultures of Mongolia

crisp heath
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This isn't true lmao

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Mentor Legion

barren ether
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I mentioned the mentors

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And no they really aren’t support based. They work more as force multipliers if you want to argue they are support based

jade holly
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I still think the Grey Knights are pretty damn cool, they’re like battle mages

crisp heath
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Please forgive me, I just woke up with a wicked hangover and my first thought was to argue with someone online about space men

jade holly
storm jungle
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Kill em Faygo, do it

jade holly
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Finish him

barren ether
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It’s okay. Yes technically the Mentors are “support” in that they work far closer with humanity than other chapters

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Like their serfs for example are highly competent operators in their own rights

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However the mentors still function as tip of the spear marines. But yes during protracted engagements the Mentors will split up and lend their collective knowledge to guard units

green loom
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They're as close as you get for marines

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There

barren ether
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The Mentor’s are really cool and a good example of how marines could use their abilities to help the Imperiums military branches in different ways as opposed to regular chapters

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Combined arms is criminally underutilized in modern 40k, however there are lore reasons for that, and good reasons to boot

jade holly
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Bruh I’m reading up on the Soul Drinkers now

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This is pretty damn cool

barren ether
jade holly
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Sarpedon?

barren ether
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One of the first omnibuses I ever read

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Yes Sarpedon thank ya

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The soul drinkers really are a case of “the road to hell is paved with good intentions”. And a lovely color scheme

barren ether
near wasp
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I heard kill. Im here to do my duty

storm jungle
jade holly
barren ether
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‘Ate me heretic. ‘Ate me’ mutant’. ‘Ate me xenos’. ‘Love me humans. ‘Love me emperor. Simple as

barren ether
jade holly
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Man the Dark Angels sure love using the word Knight in their chapters huh?

barren ether
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Well tbf they are the most knight like out of all the first founding chapters

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jade holly
barren ether
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jade holly
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They got a lot of Angels too

barren ether
spare osprey
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Angels of redemption, angels of absolution, angels of defiance, angels of vengeance, angels of vigilance,

barren ether
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Angels Encarmine

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Lots of angels I reckon to guess

spare osprey
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There’s a pretty nice deathwatch artwork with BA and DA chapters

barren ether
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Share pls

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And we need more Salamanders successors. Yes I know there are Primaris successors but I need more salamanders in my life

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FUCKING NICK KYME DO SOMETHING WITH THEM

spare osprey
barren ether
spare osprey
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Group photo

storm jungle
queen laurel
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i don't care about dark angels but i like the funny little hooded man they got

storm jungle
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oh yeah jawas

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UTINI

queen laurel
spare osprey
storm jungle
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idk man jawas pack a punch

barren ether
# spare osprey

Me and the homies on our way to keep our liege lord sedated for 10k years

queen laurel
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the fight is about to go crazy

spare osprey
barren ether
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(Yes I know Big Boss in mgsv isn’t the real big boss)

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Lion woke up and decided he was gonna make his own Outer Heaven in the form of forgiving the unforgiven and those dirty traitors

spare osprey
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Listen

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All I’m saying

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If the DA are the unforgiven

jade holly
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This may be the one time I try to do a commission, ofc I’d need to find someone who could. I want jsut a 1.5ft tall figurine of this guy carved in wood or something like that

spare osprey
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Then by logic

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The fallen are the forgiven

median marsh
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i want a lifesized replica of mortarion

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jade holly
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I swear Mortarion, besides maybe Lion’el or Vulkan, is the coolest looking Primarch

storm jungle
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Hes pretty okay

jade holly
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It’s prob cause I like Darksiders a lot and the whole heavy armor big wing design reminds me of the Angel and Demon designs in those games

barren ether
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Vulkan with the draconic imagery gets me goin

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Salamanders in general really

jade holly
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I’m just sad the best man to play him in live action is no longer with us Sitgryn

barren ether
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That was to be expected

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Sa’Karn was a g but he was only a single marine against fucking Necrons

jade holly
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Lance would have been PERFECT as Vulkan

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Or at the very least would have been the perfect voice for Vulkan

green loom
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Oh hey new Imotekh model

barren ether
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Lance Reddick? Or however his last name goes

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Because if so I agree

jade holly
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Yes

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That Lance

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Keith David could also work, but no one would do it better than Lance

green loom
jade holly
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And he is sadly no longer with us

barren ether
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Funny thing is the salamanders are literally black, not black

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So honestly any actor could do as long as they get the charcoal black skin right

queen laurel
storm jungle
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Lmaooo

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fucking crane lookin' mfer

spare osprey
storm jungle
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GOD

crisp heath
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Fun fact, these skitarii weren't originally created for war applications, they were made to help short magi get things off high shelves

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The technology for grabby claws was lost millenia ago

queen laurel
jade holly
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Oh boy I sure do love being an Eldar child, oh who are those big green guys with flamethrowers and why are they walking toward me?

barren ether
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Fuckers had it coming

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If those children didn’t want to burn, they wouldn’t have been born as xenos

jade holly
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Exactly

urban spire
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i think it's bold of them to make the skitarii a joke army

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that's a little mean maybe

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they've done some cool units for the skitarii

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but there's like

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a few too many clownshoes designs

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like the servitor chocobos that don't stop walking

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or the fucking ornithopter

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WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN FINE

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EXCEPT

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except people are making movies about Dune again so now people know what that is

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and being associated with dune is always embarrassing

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also the vanguards are cool until you think about it for a minute and realise how monstrously impractical they are

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the admech is all about preserving knowledge, so ideally you'd want your soldiers to live for as long as possible to gather information, experience, and to pass it on to others

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but the vanguards just die after a couple years

storm jungle
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It kinda works in a way?

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I like what admech does but i dont blame people that dont

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they definitely veer between cool and goofy af

urban spire
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i guess it kinda fits with the hypocrisy of considering intellect sacred while also considering human lives expendable

celest dome
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It is the 1st unit where I wouldn't use it as it is

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I will probably use a Pteratrix but with bigger wings, maybe with helices in them

urban spire
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i fucking love the rust stalkers, the spider walkers, the kastelan robots, and just the regular troops

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but fuck

celest dome
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I love the riders

queen laurel
urban spire
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i think that's the design intent

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however it is also just a guy on stilts

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but they can't take the stilts off

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that's a logistics nightmare

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how do you barrack these lads

crisp heath
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They lean upright in a really tall closet

urban spire
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what do their bunks look like? do they take the legs off to make moving them around in transports easier? if so do they have spare legs that are normal length?

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it's also weirdly light on the body horror

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i mean, not in the background lore

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the glowing blue eyes are because they have their eyelids removed and they need the goggles to keep their eyeballs moist

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good shit

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but everything looks very sanitized compared to how the lore has been depicting skitarii for decades

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i'm not too upset about this, it's just odd

celest dome
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I think you detach their stilts at the end of the day

median marsh
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"The Sydonian Skatros is a sinister sight – stalking into position on its stilt-like legs before standing deathly still, a living cyborg watchtower that scans the battlefield for targets. It’s a perfectly engineered sniper, and little escapes its all-seeing achillan eye and fine-tuned elimination protocols."

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apparently theyre part of Skitarii Vanguard, their weapons are either a Radium Jezzail or "Skatros Transuranic Arquebus"

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one is for infantry the other for vehicles/monsters

rose thorn
jade holly
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Asmech conjuring up the most wacky and inconvenient designs for their tools and cybernetics known to mankind

barren ether
queen laurel
barren ether
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Yes lmao

crisp heath
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I'm not buying this game until there's a "playersexual" mod

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The worst thing Owlcat could have done to me is deny me my waifus

barren ether
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Wym? Like every companion can be romanceable regardless of your player characters chosen gender?

storm jungle
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Oh yeah I read that article a few weeks back

barren ether
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I bought the founders edition and all I want to romance is Heinrix

barren ether
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Daddy Heinrix

storm jungle
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you can romance two eldar but literally half the human cast is unromacable, and you only get two choices and its Straight

crisp heath
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There's 1 gay male and 1 lesbian option rn

storm jungle
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Im pretty sure there isnt a gay male option

queen laurel
crisp heath
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There is

storm jungle
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Marazhai you mean?

crisp heath
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It's the drukhari lmao

storm jungle
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Lmao he isnt human he doesnt count

barren ether
queen laurel
storm jungle
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KEK

barren ether
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In 40k idk how it would be any different with humans as the Imperium of Man cares not what hole you prefer

storm jungle
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I mean its not about lore tho

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its just the devs being lazy

queen laurel
barren ether
crisp heath
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It's not gay, being gay is normal and healthy. Being a xenophile is disgusting and we'll let you'll off with a light warning and servitorization this time

queen laurel
barren ether
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Gale is hot and all but drow mommy dom is where it’s at

crisp heath
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I didn't play BG3 because everyone just talks about how it's an endless stream of sexual harassment and racial microaggressions

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Not my idea of a fun evening lmao

queen laurel
barren ether
celest dome
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Steam forum was dunny

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Funny

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Plenty of pearl clutchers

crisp heath
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No everyone else seems to love it

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I just cannot comprehend why

barren ether
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Steam forums are almost always a shitstorm regardless

barren ether
queen laurel
storm jungle
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Speaking of steam forums

queen laurel
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Which is very rare considering our climate

storm jungle
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you people havent seen what they were like when Darktide was announced

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there was people getting mad that the poster zealot is asian

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also a woman "fighting in a war???"

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💀

barren ether
storm jungle
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LMAO

queen laurel
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******* course

storm jungle
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Yeah it got so bad Aqshy had to step in

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like holy shit

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incel-fest

crystal forum
barren ether
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Which is funny as in lore there are many many cases of competent female characters

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queen laurel
barren ether
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Lotarra Sarin, Astarte, Euphrati Keeler, etc

crystal forum
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it pisses me off to no end when people who have never even interacted with a franchise act like they get to dictate what happens in it

crisp heath
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But yeah ill probably never pick up BG3. It just seems like too much. I can count the pores on some of these characters.

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I don't want that kind of thing for rogue trader, but I am mad only the straights get the waifus

spare osprey
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i'd pick it up if i had extra cash

barren ether
storm jungle
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Its what happens when you allow a studio to properly work on a game for 7 years

queen laurel
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which is very ******* rare considering today's way of life

spare osprey
# storm jungle

also, wolfdawg did a pretty neat edit. big thing for me is the bend in the legs

crisp heath
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Or I'll put it like this lmao

barren ether
crystal forum
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i think the combat isn't as good as divinity 2

crisp heath
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If I was at an actual game of D&D that was similar to BG3, I wouldn't play with that group anymore

crystal forum
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also everything is like 10 times more complicated than it needs to be for beginners

crisp heath
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The forgotten realms suck anyway, bring back Dragonlance and Dark Sun

barren ether
crystal forum
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i liked element gameplay

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and at least everything was relatively simple

barren ether
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BG3 has great combat in my own opinion. And also allows for greater freedom and experimentation with fights

crisp heath
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There is 0 doubt in my mind that BG3 is a great, well-crafted game well above current industry standards. I just wish that time, effort and talent went into a different game entirely.

barren ether
crystal forum
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also BG3 doesnt have a super tactical mode which deletes your game when you lose. shame

queen laurel
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considering that warhammer games don't receive the best treatment

barren ether
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Still holding out hope for a true freeform open world 40k game

crisp heath
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Rogue Trader looks excellent, beyond excellent

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Chefs kiss, mwag

storm jungle
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I mean

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its just a CRPG

crisp heath
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Now let me be gay

crystal forum
barren ether
queen laurel
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This is the only warhammer game I'm willing to get

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It's free and it allows me to be a driver worse than someone who plays GTA

barren ether
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(Former) Eternal Crusade players in the chat?

crisp heath
# storm jungle its just a CRPG

Dilara Darktide and Rimworld are the only games I play that I don't need to download a tileset for (I do not download tilesets because they are distracting)

crystal forum
barren ether
queen laurel
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i played the beta and this one was a painful son of a git

crisp heath
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I've been considering picking up Cyberpunk 2077 but I don't know that also seems like one I won't play much

barren ether
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It is fairly well optimized nowadays

queen laurel
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If you can run it you can try

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i heard it's pretty good

crystal forum
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people who simp for cyberpunk just watched the anime and think that makes up for the sub par gameplay

barren ether
crisp heath
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Unreal World and Cataclysm

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Oh yeah

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Yeah

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That's mostly what I play

barren ether
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Cataclysm is my most played game of all time

queen laurel
crystal forum
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cataclysm has the ability to make time disappear from your life

barren ether
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I’ve played since 2017. Each run I’ll spend roughly 50 hours on before I get bored

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Maybe make it to winter year 2

crystal forum
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i love it but christ every time i play it's like weeks go past

crisp heath
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I'm not super deep into Cataclysm, Unreal World is more my go to, but sometimes you just need to inject heroin infected with mutant blood before you storm a hospital with your killdozer to scratch that primal itch

crystal forum
barren ether
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Yes. Lots of reading

crystal forum
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i barely manage to get to winter in like 200 hours

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im always exploring

barren ether
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And both aren’t mutual. Generally I get bored by winter

crisp heath
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I just set a goal for myself, hole up in a bunker and try to survive supply runs.

barren ether
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Hub 01 quests and building in the Hub consumes a lot of time for me

crystal forum
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i usually blow up a hole in the hub and raid it

barren ether
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I like to build a base by the bar

crisp heath
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I'm a very, very safe player though, I just quit when I die, so I'll sink like 15 hours in during one sitting, die, and then not touch it for a month

barren ether
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Cozy little apartment

crystal forum
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my tactic is finding an abandoned military vehicle, grabbing the machinegun's 200 round belt and firing away forever

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really easy game all things considered

barren ether
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5.56 is so common lmao I don’t blame you

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But the damn spread on full auto

crystal forum
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nah i grab an m4 or something and go semi

crisp heath
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I like to work on vehicles and turn them into mobile fortresses

crystal forum
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i wish wandering hordes wasnt so broken so at least my base could get attacked sometimes

crisp heath
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I haven't really messed with the "human experimentation" much but it seems like something fun to get into

crystal forum
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also im a sucker for saving NPC's. i always end up with a ton of them at home

queen laurel
crisp heath
barren ether
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I used to build deathmobiles while on Adderall but I’d obsess over them too much and it was stressful lol. Nowadays I pick wayfarer and nomad and call it a day

crystal forum
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yeah no deathmobiles take so much time to make

barren ether
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Does suck though sometimes when I find a canoe

crystal forum
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i just take whatever shitty car i have, stick a bunch of cargo spaces on it and maybe an M2 on the roof to pulverize trees

crisp heath
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Yeah my runs go: spawn, make bunker, procure vehicle, fortify vehicle, drive around invincible for an hour, suddenly not be invincible, repeat next month

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I'm a creature of habit and simple pleasures

barren ether
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And how many overmaps

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I find just traveling is far more entertaining than sticking to a single area

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Especially with Mind Over Matter giving you teleportation now

crisp heath
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Like filesize or play time?

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Because I could not possibly tell you how big the files are lmao I don't check that shit

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The thing you need to understand about these games is that I'm not good at them nor do I understand them particularly well. I jump in, fun around, get really good at one particular thing, and then do that thing every time I play

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I'm not going to give much good info on the technical side and I don't know how to do anything except my one thing

queen laurel
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my man

crisp heath
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More like I don't do shit lmao

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I still never learned how water works in Dwarf Fortress lmao

barren ether
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Dwarf fortress is a whole another beast

queen laurel
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for a warhammer game i'm going to pay i'm contemplating on two things realms of ruin or Rogue Trader

barren ether
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I can’t get into it due to its tile based nature even compared to Cataclysm

crisp heath
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Oh I can play fortress until the file becomes uncorruptable

barren ether
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Rogue trader rogue trader rogue trader

crisp heath
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But I don't have any big experiments

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I just... make it functional?

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I don't get how people die in such absurd ways in dwarf fortress

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Just don't make a bad fort

queen laurel
barren ether
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You need to smoke crack and have your dwarves invade goblin towns

crisp heath
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Oh I use a mod so I play as goblins quite often

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They're great, they're immortal you know

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And very aggressive

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I feed them to each other when things get tough

barren ether
queen laurel
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So I better be able to perform these functions in rogue trader for me to like it

barren ether
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Well I used unoptimized builds such as plasma guns and power swords with whatever and it was fun

crisp heath
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Unreal World does make absolutely absurd situations though

barren ether
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Never played it

crisp heath
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One time I successfully defeated a pack of wolves with a sword and then got ambushed by a bear because I didn't pray enough, killing me instantly

barren ether
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God smote you for being an unbeliever

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Very haram

crisp heath
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It's even worse because I was playing a shaman I just didn't want to climb a tree to honor the bears 😭

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I also once led the roaming human enemies into the village so they'd protect me but none of them did anything and a circle of children gathered to watch me get beaten to death

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Also "you've got turnip. That's what you have to pay for."

barren ether
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I gotta try this game. I think I’ve heard of it

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It’s the Norse one right

crisp heath
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Finnish but yeag

crystal zealot
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Why do our characters react to the flamer as if they're reacting to something unnatural? It feels like that's how they should react to the pox burster or the mutant but not a basic human with armor and a flame thrower... what's the reason?

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They go like "Oh emperor what is that"

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and they call it a "thing"

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and vet says "Ugly karker, aint it?"

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Is it intentional shit talking since the flamer is like a traitor or something?

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and they like, wanna piss him off or something? xD

queen laurel
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I'm talking straight up crazy enough to make joker impressed type crazy

crystal zealot
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Ooh... do they have like a known reputation within lore?

queen laurel
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And that guy willingly enjoys it

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The rejects are just probably taken aback by the guys craziness

crisp heath
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My guess would be at some point in the development process flamers were more heavily mutated and the voice lines just weren't updated before release

crystal zealot
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i would understand better if that reaction was towards the toxic looking flame from the tox flamer... But our characters have a flamer of their own with the zealot

queen laurel
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Yeah that Could also be the thing

queen laurel
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Maybe the mutant

crystal zealot
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Yea i thought so too but they have a nickname for mutant

queen laurel
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Because the voice line said on the flamer is very fitting on that son of a biych

crystal zealot
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which feels like they're familiar with it

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"mutie"

queen laurel
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Someone that enjoys fire to the point that it's very horrifying basically

storm jungle
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yeah I had one of those voicelines

queen laurel
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That's the easiest explanation i can pull out of my garbage bag

storm jungle
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"Its karking Pyro from the hit videogame Team Fortress 2!"

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was very random

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but im glad fatshark pays respect to TF2 ingame

queen laurel
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Thanks for giving me something to dream about you sniveller

storm jungle
crisp heath
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The alien, the heretic, and the mutant

storm jungle
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enemy in uh

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massive quotation marks

crisp heath
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Yeah more like "victims" in a lot of cases

storm jungle
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just like real life

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like me

queen laurel
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Hold on i'm not going to finish the joke it might be offensive

barren ether
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“The gang gets cancelled”

arctic talon
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Striking scorpions are free of the curse

rose thorn
urban spire
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the imperium distinguishes between natural mutation and mutation caused by warp influence

arctic talon
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Guess the leaker was right after all heh

urban spire
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poorly

arctic talon
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Setting was wrong though

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It’s on a ocean world

urban spire
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but at least they don't burn abhumans at the stake

arctic talon
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Well

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They sometimes do

urban spire
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the beastmen in 40k are treated better than in fantasy lol

arctic talon
rose thorn
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I guess marketing thought that like, the 2 most asked redone eldar and space marines models weren’t deserving of their own release

arctic talon
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Warhammer crime’s voidborn lynching scene

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I love religious fanatics

queen laurel
barren ether
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Really just depends on the world and how fascist it is

arctic talon
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Burning voidborn alive is

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Heretical lol

urban spire
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you'd be hard pressed to find one lower than a 7 on a scale of 1 to 10 i reckon

barren ether
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Abhumans living at the bottom of a hive city are generally forgotten about

storm jungle
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I mean yeah

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because people dont see them

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they would still be killed or lynched on sight if it was any populated area

barren ether
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Ah so just like living in the south with a trans fiancé/s

urban spire
near wasp
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Abhumans are tolerated cause they are useful but mutants are despited

arctic talon
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Same difference

urban spire
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well, justifying it with the emperor's faith might be herecy

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heresy*

plush mason
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dont voidborn spend like all of their lives in ships most of the time?

arctic talon
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Yeah

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They got given leave

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And uh a few hundred got rounded up and burned alive

near wasp
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Didnt the emperor have a plan to stabilize the human genome

plush mason
urban spire
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abhumans are stable

plush mason
queen laurel
urban spire
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it isn't a theocracy

plush mason
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no such thing as secular courts in a Theocrocy

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iirc the lex imperialis is seen as a holy book

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as are the lexes of the many worlds

storm jungle
urban spire
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most of the high lords of terra are not in the religious hierarchy

plush mason
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they dont have to be

crisp heath
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Honestly GW dropped the ball with 40k beastmen

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I liked the idea that they were still humans who could be loyal, if somewhat touched by chaos

plush mason
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their authority is from the worship of the god emperor who "appointed" them

crisp heath
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But nope, they're basically just weird lesser daemons now

queen laurel
plush mason
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lol

urban spire
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kings in feudalism were appointed by religious heads but feudalism is still not fundamentally theocratic

weary bane
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Speaking of ships and people going to planets instantly being murdered

arctic talon
barren ether
crisp heath
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I'd love to have a Canon "Good guy" Gor

arctic talon
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Like

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We only get chaos beaatmen

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Because ?????

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But most beastmen are imperium aligned lol

weary bane
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Who remembers that age of tech ship that went through the warp, came out post horus heresy, the crew was like "oh hey humans" went down to the planet and were instantly executed and paraded around

arctic talon
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Tzaangors are just weird

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And I don’t really count them as beastmen in 40K

weary bane
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And their ship ai was like "and fuck that shit"

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Pretty sure it became part of a space hulk

urban spire
plush mason
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its a lot easier to relate to chaos for most people lol

urban spire
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i REALLY wish that was true

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lmao

weary bane
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I mean you spend ANY time looking into chaos and you'd be like "hmm not good"

#

The ignorant believe chaos is better

arctic talon
#

Tbh on the surface

#

Chaos is appealing

#

The imperium on the surface is

#

you know

#

Not

urban spire
#

some people will look at the imperium and be like "ah this will be my personality"

plush mason
barren ether
weary bane
#

The imperium isn't just doom and gloom, it's just the hyperbole we get shown

green loom
#

I mean it is doom and gloom

barren ether
#

Anyways my path to becoming a Changer of Things starts today

urban spire
#

nah working class in the imperium is so poorly treated that chaos straight up sounds like a better deal

green loom
#

You should join me and make a based rebel faction with many berets

urban spire
#

i think inquisitor ravenor wrote about it even

arctic talon
#

Gulllimans good ol

#

What reason does a wretch have to not choose hell when he already lives in it

crisp heath
#

The Tau is a state I would be willing to live in if I were in dire straits and had to flee somewhere but would protest, Orks are cool from a sort power fantasy, party life angle. Other than that every faction sucks.

urban spire
#

i like that we have guilliman now

arctic talon
#

The imperium is pretty shit for the average civilian

weary bane
#

Idk, consider me a national but I'd simply never betray my people staregryn

arctic talon
#

Because the average civilian

#

Is living inside a forgeworld

plush mason
#

is chattle

arctic talon
#

Or hive city

#

And thus a slave at best

weary bane
plush mason
#

nah

arctic talon
#

There’s nothing endentured

#

About working for the mechanicus

#

You’ll work your job till the day you die if you’re lucky

urban spire
plush mason
#

endentured servants still have rights. chattle slaves have none

arctic talon
#

If you’re unlucky you’ll get randomly kidnapped by a tech priest

urban spire
#

that was from abigail thorn

crisp heath
#

"Yeah I grew up in a hive city but enlisted so I could be stationed on an agriworld and finally see real nature"
The "real nature": miles of hydroponics vats, algae lakes and cotton-gin like contraptions that regularly remove hands

arctic talon
#

And then experimented on

#

There’s no silver lining

storm jungle
arctic talon
#

To working under the mechanicus

#

You’ll never become a tech priest lol

#

Unless you’re a kid

#

And even then it’s unlikely

storm jungle
#

theres a reason chaos cults exist on every world on every single planet

arctic talon
#

Adults never get “promoted” into the priest hood

weary bane
#

Humanity first whatthefuck_heresy

crisp heath
#

The Votann seem like they have their shit together, but we still have almost no updated lore so

crystal forum
#

it's ultranationalism distilled down to literal speciesism

arctic talon
urban spire
#

you can betray the imperium without betraying humanity

arctic talon
#

Based on what info we do have

plush mason
#

even then. the humans in the imperium have long lost all humnaity

crystal forum
#

the imperium wants to make humans think that betraying them is betraying humanity

arctic talon
#

Okay but the imperium vaguely gets along with the tau empire

#

So that doesn’t work

#

And by vaguely gets along

plush mason
#

only the very worst of human traits remain in the grim darkness of the far future

arctic talon
#

I mean they use them as a human shield

weary bane
#

Also, if you consider the fact the highest leading member of the imperium is g-man

arctic talon
#

G-man can’t fix anything

weary bane
#

It's members of the party, not the leader

arctic talon
#

He’s a bandaid over a hemorrhage

crystal forum
#

G-man couldn't fix his broken household

#

let alone the imperium

arctic talon
#

And the bandaid is a different flavor of totalitarianism

green loom
#

And gman is still a hyper fascist super Caesar intent on making a brutal meritocracy lol

arctic talon
#

One that’s more palletable

urban spire
#

rowboat's better than your average high lord of terra but he's not exactly great

arctic talon
#

But still comically evil

#

The imperium is meant to be comically evil

#

And awful

plush mason
#

"there is no innocence only degrees of guilt" coul never be more true when it comes to the imperium

crystal forum
#

what are we even talking about

urban spire
#

imperium bad

weary bane
#

How out of the entirety of 40k

#

I'd choose imperium

#

With no remorse

crystal forum
#

i'd kill everyone

celest dome
#

Like to live in ?

arctic talon
#

"To be a man in such times is to be one amongst untold billions. It is to live in the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable."

plush mason
#

ngl i would choose none of them

arctic talon
#

"It is to live in the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable."

celest dome
#

I choose death, or exile

crisp heath
#

Farsight Enclaves are also relatively nice. Racially segregated and barely hanging on, but at least they aren't turning babies into supercomputers.

arctic talon
#

if I was in 40k gun to my head forced me to live somewhere its the farsight enclaves

urban spire
#

it's chaos for me, i want to have a stab at sorcery

spare osprey
#

where ever modern lion is i'm perfectly fine with going. he's been quite "rational" as of late

arctic talon
#

I would just kill myself

#

otherwise

celest dome
#

I'd join chaos, if it's hell. At least its honest hell

arctic talon
#

because at least with that

#

I can rest forever lol

plush mason
#

yeah

arctic talon
#

because my soul is going to get fucking shredded in a nanosecond

celest dome
urban spire
#

glomped by some kind of warp parasite

arctic talon
#

thats how getting your soul shredded works

#

yes

#

its instant

#

its painless

crisp heath
#

I've said this a couple times, but I honestly think Nemeton is an OK place to live, if you're fine with living in the bronze age

urban spire
#

well

arctic talon
#

unless you have strong force of will

#

in which that case

urban spire
#

we don't know that it is instant or painless

arctic talon
#

have fun being some daemons torture slave for an eternity

crisp heath
#

Like the thing that makes Nemeton suck is they're poor and uneducated, they aren't basically slaves like 99% of Imperials

crystal forum
#

i just want to infiltrate slaanesh's kingdom and tell them that they're ugly

celest dome
plush mason
#

a quick painless death is the best outcome anyone could hope for in 40k

urban spire
#

hey now

#

it's always worth trying to make things better

queen laurel
plush mason
#

fair

arctic talon
#

Sentenced to becoming a craftworld eldar

plush mason
#

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

celest dome
#

In all likelihood I would try to make thing better. And die a meaningless death

crystal forum
#

do you think detroit still exists in 40k

arctic talon
#

Yes

crisp heath
urban spire
#

it does not

arctic talon
#

its the average hiveworld

crystal forum
#

you are sentenced to detroit

queen laurel
urban spire
#

earth (terra) is mostly ecumenopolis

arctic talon
#

NOOOOOOOOOO NOT DETROIT ANYTHING BUT DETROIT

plush mason
celest dome
#

Terra is just Detroit

urban spire
#

with some barren stretches of truly desolate land

queen laurel
#

Even though lowest of boyz have a place for war

#

I could sign up as a slugga boy

#

And probably die charging an infantry gun line but hey i had fun

arctic talon
storm jungle
# plush mason NOOOOOOOOOOOO

Bro being a craftworld Eldar is literally living in utopia, imagine IRL but you basically get to do whatever you want minus going to über-hell if your soulstone gets broken 💀

urban spire
arctic talon
#

Being a craftworld Eldar would be great

#

till you know

#

death

crystal forum
storm jungle
#

I mean that depends

arctic talon
#

then you pray that your soulstone doesn't get broken or stolen

queen laurel
storm jungle
#

if your soulstone gets recovered you are good

arctic talon
#

and you make it to the infinity circuit

storm jungle
#

über-heaven 🙏

arctic talon
#

if it doesn't well

#

thats gona suck

crisp heath
#

If you live on a craft world all your friends are going to be simultaneously horny and depressed 24/7 and honestly I'd prefer the sweatshop

arctic talon
#

if it does

#

👍

#

I should have written sentenced to being a Druhkari Kabalite

arctic talon
#

lol

crisp heath
arctic talon
#

because being a Kabalite would suck

#

unless you're a psycopath

#

or sociopath

#

actually that applies to being dark eldar in general

weary bane
#

A detail I guess that feeds to my reasoning for picking the imperium over other forms of self comfort choices. Is I'm built on the "serve for a purpose larger than yourself" it's been my job for the last 8 years

storm jungle
#

I mean

jade holly
#

If you had to add a 40k rep into MK, who’s your choice?

storm jungle
#

thats easy to say when you arent living like the current Imperial citizentry tho is the thing

jade holly
#

Because they just revealed Omni Man in MK1 and that’s on my mind atm

storm jungle
#

AYO

weary bane
plush mason
#

ngl i would suck as an eldar lol. i barely feel any emotions

urban spire
#

you could probably make some kind of autism-adhd analogy with how the eldar do professions but it wouldn't be great

storm jungle
queen laurel
green loom
#

Maybe a big guard/inquisition character

weary bane
arctic talon
#

Aun'shi

crystal forum
weary bane
#

I've mopped more floors in my career than I've shot bullets

arctic talon
#

this guy

#

would be funny

crisp heath
#

I think I'd survive living as an imperial, I just wouldn't be happy with it

urban spire
queen laurel
arctic talon
#

but realistically its gona be like

#

Bobby G lol

jade holly
#

Or a Titan

storm jungle
# urban spire not my intent

Its close but its more that they live so long that an Eldar can just switch "jobs" or professions at any time.

#

Craftworlds literally have no crimes and everything on shops is free lol

queen laurel
crisp heath
#

Oh working 16 hour shifts? In constant pain and can't get medical care? Eat flavorless food mainly designed to deliver nutrition? Be afraid of my government and neighbors? OK so just like real life except everything smells like incense

jade holly
#

Isn’t that all made up tho in their minds on a Craftworld?

weary bane
storm jungle
#

I mean no

jade holly
urban spire
#

post scarcity more than communism

jade holly
storm jungle
#

Its not really communism as it changes depending on the craftworld

weary bane
#

You just said everything's for free

urban spire
#

shit aint communally owned on a craftworld

green loom
#

Celestine or one of the Phoenix Lords would work great actually

weary bane
#

Define things better then PepeShrug

storm jungle
#

if thats what eldar do no wonder aliens do it better

jade holly
crisp heath
#

The worst part of a craft world is dealing with elves and I don't know if I can make that sacrifice

weary bane
#

It's a dumb ideology

storm jungle
#

Basically

#

Eldar wont bitch when someone is getting more attention than them in a job position.

#

Humans do lol

jade holly
#

Theoretically, if everyone in the community is on board with not owning anything and providing benefits to the community through hard work

#

It works

storm jungle
#

Its why craftworlds are basically post scarcity utopias

jade holly
#

But that means you get nothing for your hard work

crisp heath
#

Guys let's not talk so bluntly about communism in the plastic army man server because this is the setup for another annoying argument

green loom
#

I'd serve these guys

arctic talon
crisp heath
queen laurel
jade holly
storm jungle
queen laurel
jade holly
#

Go ahead, knock that guy’s teeth out

weary bane
#

I mean by all means the imperium is corrupt, ain't perfect, has a lot of issues. But the alternatives ngl, not really better unless you ignore their issues

jade holly
#

Do it

crisp heath
#

I've devoted a lot of thought to the ork economy and I hate it

green loom
plush mason
urban spire
#

normally i am communism defender but i don't have the energy tonight

crisp heath
urban spire
#

idk, don't talk shit about ideologies you don't understand

jade holly
storm jungle
#

Alright guys lets not get into that

#

make fun of societies that are actually shit, like you know Aquila

weary bane
plush mason
crisp heath
#

Yeah let's talk about something entirely unrelated, like Valhallans

green loom
#

They're actually all varied

jade holly
#

Wait

green loom
#

And they have a sort of historically accurate herald!

jade holly
#

Why tf do they have the Fleur de Lys on them?

arctic talon
#

Its accurate to the history of the old world

crisp heath
#

Oh man the next Grimworld (40k rinworld mods) update is adding Valhallan clothes

#

I'm pumped

arctic talon
crisp heath
#

I'm definitely doing Cain roleplay

arctic talon
#

Bretonians

#

are like French/British

green loom
#

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queen laurel
green loom
queen laurel
#

I would like to hear your reasoning

green loom
#

In general

urban spire
#

bronytonnia

plush mason
arctic talon
#

Also much like the french they have a pretty brutal like

jade holly
arctic talon
#

pesentray opression

#

lol

crisp heath
#

Teef are too abundant to use as money

jade holly
#

Arthurian is actually Welsh but y’all ain’t ready for that conversation

urban spire
#

that's correct

green loom
#

It's a mix of british/french

celest dome
crisp heath
#

A loaf of bread must cost like 20,000 teef

green loom
#

But Arthur himself is belived to be from Wales right

arctic talon
#

its why Kruber

crisp heath
#

And are they measured by weight?

arctic talon
#

starts trying to do a french accent

arctic talon
#

after he's a grail knight lol

queen laurel
jade holly
green loom
#

iirc Lancelot and the Grail are mostly French creations

arctic talon
#

and Kerellian is laughing at him proll because she's slaughtered a bunch of Bretonian presents during a great hunt

jade holly
#

Lancelot is a Gary Stu self insert made by someone else later on

celest dome
jade holly
#

Real men follow Galahad

plush mason
urban spire
#

i love warhammer fantasy so much

plush mason
#

same

queen laurel
celest dome
#

Fantasy is better than 40k

urban spire
#

i hope the version they bring back doesn't suck

jade holly
#

mfw Lancelot was so cool in battle it made the leader of the enemy give up and swear allegiance

#

Like come on

green loom
#

But TLDR a lot of elements are from France/The Isles

arctic talon
jade holly
#

That’s be and we know it

arctic talon
#

should be fine

#

Maliketh is

#

very active

celest dome
#

Very

arctic talon
#

in this timeperiod so should be fun lol

plush mason
urban spire
#

it is however pre-gotrek and felix

jade holly
arctic talon
#

Like

#

killing elves active

#

and humans

#

and dwarves

green loom
jade holly
#

and banging his mother?

arctic talon
#

maybe

celest dome
#

The only sad part for me is that Old World won't have Josef Bugmans

arctic talon
#

💀

urban spire
#

pre-fall bugman

green loom
#

It's actually weird that Repanse speaks like the nobility

jade holly
#

I’m actually watching a video of a guy playing Total Warhammer 3 and he immediately declared war on every faction

#

He’s playing some undead vampire pirate

plush mason
celest dome
jade holly
urban spire
#

vampire coast owns

green loom
#

Honour is all
Chivarly is all!

urban spire
#

one of the original factions invented for the total warhammer games

arctic talon
#

Its Aranessa Saltspite

#

I'm assuming

celest dome
jade holly
#

No

arctic talon
#

she's the only female Vampire Coast leader

#

so it has to be her lol

celest dome
urban spire
#

i wonder if TWW3 is fun yet

arctic talon
#

idk

jade holly
arctic talon
#

it has like my second favorite faction in TWW history

green loom
#

You guys catch this btw?

celest dome
green loom
arctic talon
queen laurel
plush mason
celest dome
#

As they should

celest dome
#

Hyena is canceled

plush mason
#

yeah

arctic talon
#

my favorite race in TWW is prolly Wood Elves or Daemons of Khorne lol

#

mostly since Daemons of Khorne let me turn my brain off

plush mason
#

the twilight sisters are so broken

jade holly
#

Papa Nurgle’s bois

arctic talon
#

and Wood Elves are very funny

queen laurel
# urban spire no

Oh boy yeah they tried to get into the fps market, got Obliterated

arctic talon
#

but Daemons of Khorne are great fun

#

you just need to worry about how to deliver your guys into melee

#

unless you're using skullcannons

#

in which that case have fun with artillery lol

urban spire
#

OH HYENA

queen laurel
urban spire
#

no i heard about that

celest dome
#

I once read Sega's financial reports. And damn does pachinko work well

plush mason
#

just have Skarbrand solo the enemy army

urban spire
#

no hyena failed because nobody at CA wants to make a live service FPS

#

everyone who signed up to work at that company did so because they wanted to make totals war

celest dome
#

Honestly TWW3 is way to mismanaged

arctic talon
#

Skarbrand and Bloodthirsters are all comically overpowered lol

#

which makes sense

plush mason
#

yes

jade holly
#

Is Vermintide 2 still heavily played?

arctic talon
#

yes

jade holly
#

Bruh invaded Bela’kor’s kingdom with Noctilus and Noctilus alone

#

And won

queen laurel
celest dome
#

Normand

arctic talon
#

for like

#

almost nothing

green loom
#

It's a mishmash of Medieval Britain/France

queen laurel
#

Yeah

urban spire
#

yikes

plush mason
green loom
#

Most of the cities are just pulled from France lol

urban spire
#

i guess i'm staying away from tww3 for a while longer

jade holly
plush mason
#

yeah

#

GG

jade holly
#

Also hang on

queen laurel
#

This guy covers the topic greatly

#

And basically explains why people don't like the shadows of change dlc

bold stag
#

looks inside 40k lore chat
warhammer fantasy lore

arctic talon
#

we can go back to it

bold stag
#

na I just wanted to say a silly

arctic talon
#

lol

bold stag
#

I have all total wars so

plush mason
urban spire
#

everyone here likes fantasy lore better than 40k lore

arctic talon
#

not me

urban spire
#

smarf

arctic talon
bold stag
#

this household is age of sugmar only

plush mason
#

no

crisp heath
#

Tch

jade holly
#

Dang

crisp heath
#

Weaklings

jade holly
#

Darin de Paul did NOT voice Noctilus

crisp heath
#

Bloodbowl is the one true Warhammer property.

bold stag
plush mason
urban spire
#

no american football is way more brutal

celest dome
#

Blood Bowl lore create so many implications for the broader warhammer lore

crisp heath
celest dome
#

Should have been Hurling. That's a fun sport

urban spire
#

they use less protective gear in rugby, which ironically means they can't go all out on each other as hard as they can in american football, so there's a lot less brain injury

arctic talon
#

Nuffle

crisp heath
plush mason
#

lol

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

so how about that Striking Scoprion lore

urban spire
#

i read a striking scorpions novel once

#

i don't remember a single fucking thing about it

crisp heath
#

Elves, don't care

queen laurel
#

Ok that's another one that doesn't like the Elves

#

God damn this list is getting quite long

#

I think i can even measure the mariana trench with this

storm jungle
#

Elf haters tend to be like that lol

arctic talon
#

Elves bad doesn't even work as a joke in WHF

storm jungle
#

^

arctic talon
#

it at least works in 40k

urban spire
#

i don't dislike eldar

arctic talon
#

but I don't get the people who make jokes about it in WHF lol

crisp heath
#

I would love the eldar if we got some exodite content

storm jungle
arctic talon
#

Wood elves and Dark Elves are dicks yeah

#

actually they're both straight up psycopaths

#

tbh

crisp heath
#

Wood Elves only good elves

arctic talon
#

but High Elves are the only ones who regularly interact with humans lol

#

and they're like fine

queen laurel
celest dome
arctic talon
#

Wood Elves on their way to slaughter an entire Bretonian town because some pesant pissed on a tree

crisp heath
#

As is rightful

storm jungle
#

Its not that

#

Wood Elves dont actively attack Bretonnians

#

the actual reason is a lot more funnier

queen laurel
celest dome
arctic talon
#

isn't it literally because of the Wild Hunt

#

and thats why lol

storm jungle
#

they got this yearly/annual thing where they gotta call the Wild Hunt because the tree spirits keep murdering wood elves, and they help to satiate their hunger by turning them to the Bretonnians

#

its fucking hilarious

barren ether
#

I’m doing yard work right now and I fucking hate wood elves

arctic talon
#

Yeah thats what I thought lol

#

the Tree Spirits are uh

#

not friendly

storm jungle
#

Durthu

#

is literally Hitler

arctic talon
#

yep

storm jungle
#

Very big racist tree grandpa that hates everyone

barren ether
#

Whoever created ground junipers were definitely a fucking knife ear

#

Goddamn leaf eaters

crisp heath
#

Listen sometimes you just need to be turned into fertilizer by a tall, tanned knife-ear

#

I don't see the issue

queen laurel
#

I think in warhammer fantasy the only nitpick i have one it is that orks are considered a lot more chaotic evil than in warhammer 40k

storm jungle
#

they also kill bretonnian nobles and burn their castles I see this as an absolute win

queen laurel
#

I mean they're basically exactly the same but they're just more evil on fantasy i guess

arctic talon
#

tbh Orcs in WHF are much more traditionalish

#

Orcs

#

Orks in 40k are uh

#

goofy

celest dome
queen laurel
crisp heath
#

Listen I fell in love with wood elves from Dwarf Fortress, where they spit in my face and then raised an army larger than the population of China because I cut too many trees

#

I quickly fell in love

#

And Warhammer Wood Elves are just more of that

queen laurel
urban spire
#

sort of a consistent problem with writing in warhammer 40k and fantasy is that it's primarily marketed at 14 year old boys and every now and then when the writing gets interesting the prime programming reasserts itself and you get a new ultramarines

queen laurel
#

Where everyone just hates them equally

celest dome
#

Wait, 2 population faction, who begrudgingly live together but are ready to kill each other.
Damn, I'm not a Dwarf, Belgium are Wood Elvess

arctic talon
#

just read Warhammer Crime for like

#

non space marine content

arctic talon
#

its actually good

storm jungle
#

Bretonnians are legit awful

arctic talon
#

you'll never have to hear about marines

#

or any stupid ass bolter porn

crisp heath
#

They lean a bit more french most of the time

celest dome
queen laurel
#

Holy Gork and Mork

barren ether
#

WHF Dwarf supremacy

storm jungle
#

Stunties go home

#

and get stabbed by skaven in your beds

weary bane
#

stunties gross

#

go write another petty grudge in your book

queen laurel
#

As a green skin i decided to pick up a dwarf by his beard and repeatedly slam him in the floor good times

celest dome
#

Dilara 😢 im a bloody wood elf Sitgryn

arctic talon
#

Good

normal light
arctic talon
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your life will be fine

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mostly

queen laurel
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That worship the chaos god so

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Ehhh

crisp heath
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Cacti are the Wood of the desert

queen laurel
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Not the worst faith

normal light
crystal forum
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what is north america

crisp heath
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