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#40k-lore-chat
uneven current
We're cracked out with plot armor, they're fucking up the local PDF and Enforcers, and some of the guys in the Warband
green loom
The inquisition warband is the closest we got to a proper regi since they're all out fighting the
Errrr
I forget the name
But there's a nearby war they're all funnelled into
urban spire
some crusade
uneven current
Also, I'm under the assumption that most of the soldiers we see at the beginnings of certain missions are in fact PDF
green loom
Ye
uneven current
though they are EXCEPTIONALLY well armed for PDFs
crystal forum
We're cracked out with plot armor, they're fucking up the local PDF and Enforcer...
yeah but PDF suck in general and enforcers are only good at hurting unarmed civilians
green loom
Inquisition goons will be wearing red and black
urban spire
they are pdf of a planet that manufactures arms and armour for an ongoing crusade
green loom
I love the detail that they only have Demolishers lol
uneven current
they are pdf of a planet that manufactures arms and armour for an ongoing crusad...
It's still incredibly rare regardless to see PDF fielding TANKS
crystal forum
I love the detail that they only have Demolishers lol
blow up half the hive to save it
green loom
That's cus the local factory is being press ganged to funnel tank production to the warband/pdf
jade holly
You know what would be a really cool mission? Fighting up a Titan piloted by the Moebian. Is it lore accurate? Idfk idk how rare Titans are
grave sparrow
maybe against a Leman Russ tank? could have some single use anti armor weapons laying around
urban spire
the pdf we see that have access to tanks are using the tanks manufactured IN tertium
green loom
Titans are piloted by exceptionally rare individuals and are basically high nobility
shrewd veldt
But there's a nearby war they're all funnelled into
The Fringe war
green loom
Yes that
uneven current
You know what would be a really cool mission? Fighting up a Titan piloted by the...
Why would a Titan be on Atoma tho? It's not owned by the Mechanicus.
jade holly
Why would a Titan be on Atoma tho? It's not owned by the Mechanicus.
That’s why I said idk how rare they are
green loom
Very
urban spire
titans are very rare
jade holly
but a mission fighting a commandeered Leman Russ sounds much more likely
shrewd veldt
You know what would be a really cool mission? Fighting up a Titan piloted by the...
There are many titans
grave sparrow
watch we get some weird COD like mission where WE pilot tanks
uneven current
It'd be very finnicky in game, I'd much rather fight some really large fucking Mutant abomination or a (formerly) sanctioned Psyker
urban spire
atoma probably has close ties with the admech all things considered though
so if things escalate badly enough, maybe
green loom
Random freeblade crops up and gives us a ride
grave sparrow
would love for a mission fighting a plague priest that summons portals to the warp that floods out nurglings
jade holly
Nurgle looks like he’d be voiced by Darin de Paul
arctic talon
they absolutely would tbh
uneven current
atoma probably has close ties with the admech all things considered though
I have no doubt it does, due to being the capital for it's local volume of space, I just don't see them deploying titans unless things had gone tits up.
arctic talon
I have no doubt it does, due to being the capital for it's local volume of space...
Skitarii would make quick work of most of the enemies tbh
jade holly
So just how strong in lore is an Inquisition?
urban spire
that's what i said
arctic talon
but like
jade holly
What we’re playing in game is a Inquisition right?
arctic talon
So just how strong in lore is an Inquisition?
A single inquistor varries in what they can do
urban spire
What we’re playing in game is a Inquisition right?
we're playing as a grunt soldier working for one of the subordinates of a single inquisitor
jade holly
we're playing as a grunt soldier working for one of the subordinates of a single...
Which is Grendyl?
urban spire
yeah
shrewd veldt
so if things escalate badly enough, maybe
I mean lore wise it took quite a bit of lobbying and the presence of a heretic Titan legio to get the mechanicus to deploy titans to Vraks
shrewd veldt
The warband
green loom
We're just "Grendyl's Warband"
jade holly
That’s a boring name
shrewd veldt
Ordo Hereticus I would suspect is the specific part of the inquisition
urban spire
our group specifically, the ad hoc grunts made up of prisoners from the transport barge, is called the rejects
jade holly
Imagine a Death Guard Titan 
urban spire
the inquisitor's warband is just called a warband
arctic talon
yeah grendyl is part of Ordo hereticus
green loom
If you prefer we're a Witchhunter Warband
grave sparrow
could be Ordo Sepulturum
urban spire
i don't think it's a minor ordo
jade holly
So theoretically Grendyl looks something like this?
grave sparrow
we'd probably have more of a prescence of sisters of battle if we were hereticus though
grave sparrow
Some of the personalities mention it
Oh, gotcha
green loom
Nop, Professional Vet says the following
"You know, since signing up for Hereticus detail, I sure miss fighting xenos"
urban spire
there are way fewer sisters of battle now than there were before
jade holly
there are way fewer sisters of battle now than there were before
What happened?
urban spire
the lore changed
jade holly
Damn
urban spire
yeah
green loom
Also Sisters are a lot less Hereticus bound now
It's kinda like Deathwatch and the Ordo Xenos
sullen cape
Most got wiped out in rhe cidrix makiductum
green loom
Or GK and Malleus
urban spire
cidrix makiductum
green loom
Thas a new one
jade holly
Gesundheit
sullen cape
Tuping on phone not really good.
But yes also sobs are ordos chamber miltiant. But also a save guard for ordos hereticus. As they are able to execute them as traitors
shrewd veldt
cidrix makiductum
You having a stroke?
grave sparrow
Man I was really hoping we'd be Sepulturum, get one of those niche pieces of lore brought up more lol
urban spire
You having a stroke?
i was repeating what my man up there said
green loom
Man I was really hoping we'd be Sepulturum, get one of those niche pieces of lor...
I feel like a good chunk of the Game is just ripped from Dark heresy (maybe not as much as RT will be), so it wouldn't surprise me
jade holly
You know what would be a cool Easter egg?
urban spire
abnett has writing credits in this game doesn't he?
green loom
He wrote the background fluff
jade holly
During some missions outdoors if you look at the surroundings, and look up, you could see some spies from other factions
Like seeing a Tau or Eldar
just lurking in the background
urban spire
tau seems unlikely
urban spire
eldar are marginally more likely
you can get them scouty eldar basically anywhere
what are they called again
green loom
But yeah Daniel wrote stuff like the Fringe Wars and Moebians
grave sparrow
You can see gunfights happening in skyboxes sometimes
Yea, more background stuff like that would be awesome, makes the game feel more lively? Like there's an actual operation going on and it's not these tiny isolated strike teams.
green loom
you can get them scouty eldar basically anywhere
Rangers
urban spire
right that
jade holly
It would also be a cool payoff to see Ratlings hanging around on rooftops
urban spire
if there were orks, the game would immediately become about orks
green loom
Yea, more background stuff like that would be awesome, makes the game feel more ...
You can definitely see more of the static background stuff in the newer maps
Hopefully they keep it going
jade holly
With how much they get brought up
jade holly
It’s clearly Thousand Sons smh
jade holly
Nah it’s actually Alpharius
Maybe the real 2nd and 11th legions were the Alphariuses we killed along the way
arctic talon
I’m skinning you alive
forest orbit
though they are EXCEPTIONALLY well armed for PDFs
Bro PDFs can be armed with anything the planet has, a tank is a tank.
Yall here acting like these guys arming themselves with guns is unusual or something
arctic talon
Aroma’s pdf seems decently competent
Since at least the moebians are somewhat contained
storm jungle
Yeah people also forget the 6th are THE best regiment of the planet/sector
so us killing them is kind of a big deal and we still suffer casulties from other reject strike teams constantly dying
green loom
We're just the lucky/competent ones
Also from what I can gauge
The war on Tertium is mostly contained, in that the battle lines are still being drawn
We've only scratched the surface and all that
arctic talon
The dregs are up to something
They have to have actual cult leaders
We haven’t fought any dreg leaders yet
Just Moebian captains
grave sparrow
I do wish it was mentioned more that the other strike teams were getting massacred, like the fact that the players are god-tier warriors killing thousands of heretics per missions and we're still looked on like we're run of the mill trash lol
green loom
Ultimately just assets with higher success scores
green loom
I do wish it was mentioned more that the other strike teams were getting massacr...
Morrow/Zola mention them the most
arctic talon
We won’t get used as cannon fodder anymore
green loom
Seeing as they're in charge of the rejects
arctic talon
But we’re certainly not in a great spot lol
green loom
We won’t get used as cannon fodder anymore
That's what the PDF is for
storm jungle
I do wish it was mentioned more that the other strike teams were getting massacr...
Pay attention to the consoles and other comm equipment in the levels, you can hear a lot of screaming/dying operatives on the other parts of the hive
very nice worldbuilding
arctic talon
**very nice worldbuilding**
The funny radio with some guy being tortured to death
storm jungle
LMAO YEAH
Janfon has a clip uploaded to youtube of one of these incidents
its very fucked up
jade holly
Alright let’s see if I learned the major legions loyalist:
Dark Angels, Ultramarines, Imperial Fists, Iron Hands, Blood Angels, Night Ravens, Space Wolves, White Scars, Salamanders
Traitors:
Alpha Legion, Thousand Sons, Death Guard, Emperor’s Children, Sons of Horus, Iron Warriors, Word Bearers, World Eaters, Uhhhhhh
Who are the losers I forgot?
storm jungle
Im glad you put Alphas on the traitors because people don't wanna accept that thats what they always are
green loom
It's Raven Guard, not Night Ravens
jade holly
Im glad you put Alphas on the traitors because people don't wanna accept that th...
I always saw it as 9 loyal 9 traitor
18 total
storm jungle
Yep thats the aim
arctic talon
Alright let’s see if I learned the major legions loyalist:
Dark Angels, Ultramar...
Night lords
Missing
storm jungle
Alpha Legion was more fractured with loyalists/traitors but by M41 its entirely just traitors
they have never done anything to aid the imperium
but people gaslight each other into thinking they did
arctic talon
Any loyalists in M41 wouldn’t even be in alpha legion colors
Tbh
They’d be black shields
jade holly
Wannabe Dracula
green loom
but people gaslight each other into thinking they did
"I'm your friend, I keep breaking your hand and it'll keep healing stronger!"
"Nerve damage? Wazzat?"
jade holly
I’m gonna be honest
Alpha look so damn out of place
Almost as out of place as the Tau
how new are they?
arctic talon
The scales on their armor?
storm jungle
New?
arctic talon
They’re like 2e lol
storm jungle
They have been with the setting since forever
arctic talon
They’re old as shit
storm jungle
jade holly
Damn they stick out like a sore thumb
spare osprey
how new are they?
storm jungle
I mean do they?
green loom
Well see
jade holly
Their color scheme and texture on their armor make them look like they’re from the even further future to me
green loom
They're portrayed in their own armour
storm jungle
You think they look out of place bro have you seen the other first founding chapters
💀
jade holly
You think they look out of place bro have you seen the other first founding chap...
I’m still new to Warhammer lore
storm jungle
arctic talon
Also people always go so fucking overboard
jade holly
I didn’t even know there was a 30k until like 3 days ago
arctic talon
With customization on their marines lol
jade holly
arctic talon
Like they just put way too much drip on lol
arctic talon
Some tactical marine prolly is just gona be wearing like base armor
Maybe some purity seals and a tabard
storm jungle
also pro tip
40k is a kitchen sink setting, the Imperium is not the main aesthetic of the universe. Not everything looks like a gothic junkyard explosion.
storm jungle
Yeah uh good luck with that
jade holly
Cause Lord knows I’ll die of overexposure if I don’t
storm jungle
arctic talon
The big 4 are all you need to worry about at the start tbh
Imperium, chaos, eldar, orks
green loom
Fallen are easily the best aesthetic. Orks are a solid 2nd
I disagree
arctic talon
For the modernish settings aesthetic
jade holly
Right now my fav loyalist legion is Imperial Fists and my fav Chaos legion is Death Guard
But Salamanders and Iron Warriors are close seconds
winter vessel
But Salamanders and Iron Warriors are close seconds
nice...
crisp heath
My thing with alpha legion is the scales look like hell to paint, but if you don't paint them you're leaving out the coolest design bit
arctic talon
My thing with alpha legion is the scales look like hell to paint, but if you don...
99% of people I see don’t paint them
crisp heath
5/10 design for a hobby where painting is part of it
jade holly
Just paint A on the soldiers to let all know your units are actually Alpharius
That way you can pull the Alpharius gambit
jade holly
https://preview.redd.it/what-is-your-favorite-alpha-legion-color-scheme-v0-78lin...
Bruh their logo is a Hydra?
arctic talon
Yes
jade holly
That makes the Alpharius joke even better lmao
You kill one Alpharius and two shall take his place
crisp heath
also pro tip
40k is a kitchen sink setting, the Imperium is not the main aesthe...
Orks- Gothic junkyard explosion, emphasis on junkyard
Eldar (especially drukhari) - Gothic junkyard explosion, emphasis on Gothic
Chaos - Gothic junkyard explosion, emphasis on explosion
winter vessel
i mean hydra dominatus amirite?
arctic talon
Official eavy metal theme
Also leaves it out
I’d only do the whole scale thing on chosen or chaos lords
winter vessel
One probably dresses up as the guitarist Slash
crisp heath
Rokkers
arctic talon
More examples
The scale thing got introduced in HH
And it’s like only on praetors, named characters and head hunters
crisp heath
You haven't made me feel better about the hobby side of things you just made me like alpha legion less
arctic talon
jade holly
One probably dresses up as the guitarist Slash
Vocalist is David Draiman, guitarist is Slash, Bassist is…, Drummer is Dave Grohl
crisp heath
Then again I like Emperor's Spears
And the runes would be way more annoying than scales
I can barely write small ogham with a pen, much less a brush
arctic talon
The old alpha legion scheme was neat
arctic talon
Least you ain’t painting a Necron unit
Those aren’t bad at all
The glyphs are raised
Thank fuck
Or indented
jade holly
You think Orks would blast Black Betty?
winter vessel
Or indented
crisp heath
Orks definitely listen to Mastodon
jade holly
Orks definitely listen to Mastodon
THIS IVORY LEG IS WHAT PROPELS ME
arctic talon
crisp heath
He looks like he's doing a fortnite dance I haven't heard of
winter vessel
when second editon came around, they were like "erase all records of these fucks".
arctic talon
when second editon came around, they were like "erase all records of these fucks...
Those are 2e
💀
They got rid of them in 3e
jade holly
Not to be confused with e3
crisp heath
I'm gonna be real here
I like the fact that they dropped "Warhammer fantasy in space"
winter vessel
my favorite pic of the chaos androids "SLIDE TO THE LEFT, CRISS CROSS"
crisp heath
But the one thing they should've kept was space skaven instead of reality warping goo men
arctic talon
So is the Warhammer in Vermintide the same universe as 40k?
No
crisp heath
No
jade holly
Ok good
arctic talon
Only thing that’s the same across settings
jade holly
I was about to say
arctic talon
And even then there’s some unique chaos daemons
crisp heath
It's a common theory that the Warp and Realm of Chaos are the same place, but other than that, entirely disconnected besides some retconned/dropped lore
crisp heath
I actually like it because i know a little bit of Moorcock and it makes a lot of sense
jade holly
I actually like it because i know a little bit of Moorcock and it makes a lot of...
More cock?
arctic talon
Synessa and Dexcessa are only in age of sigmar
crisp heath
Fantasy is just (relatively) recently discovered by Chaos, but 40k has been a Chaos dimension for millions of years
jade holly
I just realized
crisp heath
More cock?
Sci fi and fantasy author that a lot of Warhammer stuff is based off of
jade holly
Huge missed opportunity for Alpharius’s demon Primarch form be him with three heads
crisp heath
Chaos is pretty much exactly as Moorcock wrote it
arctic talon
Alpharius is dead
jade holly
but nah
arctic talon
Omegon is
jade holly
He’s dead
crisp heath
Except Moorcock's chaos gods could be "good", but even the good ones are iffy
jade holly
Give Omegon the Ghidorah treatment
crisp heath
Moorcock was also way hornier than GW is but let's not touch that
jade holly
But was he as insane as Lovecraft
storm jungle
Nah he wasnt
winter vessel
I mean with a name like "Moorcock"
storm jungle
💀
jade holly
Lovecraft was another level of insane for even his time
And that’s saying something
storm jungle
Eh he wasnt insane
he was just antisocial as fuck
also was raised in an weird and awful environment
jade holly
He was legit paranoid of everything, including his wife’s apartment
storm jungle
I mean with an upringing like his yes
crisp heath
HP "only touched his wife wearing gloves" Lovecraft
jade holly
HP "only touched his wife wearing gloves" Lovecraft
Man took wearing protection to a whole new level
Speaking of women, I heard something about Robot Guile and an Eldar woman,
storm jungle
its fake and memes
crisp heath
Not canon
storm jungle
they talked once
crisp heath
Popular ship
storm jungle
40k fans are horny dudes and took it as "they must be fucking"
jade holly
Is it also a running gag to purposefully misspell Guilliman’s name?
winter vessel
then theres the whole celestine and greyfax shtick
arctic talon
Happens with slaanesh
crisp heath
There is a human woman in the dark imperium books he actually seems to be flirting with, but it's very, very minor and it's less funny so no one talks about it
arctic talon
Is it also a running gag to purposefully misspell Guilliman’s name?
Yes
storm jungle
Is it also a running gag to purposefully misspell Guilliman’s name?
Its a running gag in the fandom
not in-universe
jade holly
I bet if it was in universe that’d be instant execution
storm jungle
In-universe the traitors just make fun of Roboute for being a nerd
one of my favorites is uh
"The Avenging Bean-counter"
crisp heath
then theres the whole celestine and greyfax shtick
OK but Black Library actually kind of fed that one, "Our Martyred Lady" actually has quite a bit of ship fuel
winter vessel
OK but Black Library actually kind of fed that one, "Our Martyred Lady" actually...
The tension was real.
arctic talon
storm jungle
Celestine and Greyfax makes sense because they got 2 hours of interactions and being sly/sarcastic/snarky with each other.
jade holly
Doesn’t every Primarch have one weird kink abut them?
arctic talon
Celestine and Greyfax makes sense because they got 2 hours of interactions and b...
Yeah lol
storm jungle
Guilliman and Yvraine is just 40k fans being coomers
jade holly
Like Dorn is obsessed with building
arctic talon
Doesn’t every Primarch have one weird kink abut them?
Most primarchs are weird as shit
Dorn is a massochist lol
winter vessel
Da magic pain glove
jade holly
Vulkan is like the only wholesome Primarch
jade holly
Leman Russ is just hilarious
storm jungle
with flame weapons
crisp heath
I just want them to make Lion explicitly gay since it would make a lot of people happy and piss a certain type of person off
But that's just me
jade holly
minus him genociding countless human and alien societies
I mean compared to the rest he’s a saint
winter vessel
Vulkan is like the only wholesome Primarch
y'know what wasn't whole? that eldar child who couldn't catch those hands
jade holly
jade holly
Tbf so is everyone else
storm jungle
its really not
jade holly
Everyone’s evil
storm jungle
the Imperium in itself is wrong and GW has kinda said this countless times
crisp heath
Khan is slightly less evil but he's also racist as shit so
arctic talon
Then don’t call him wholesome
winter vessel
J Khan is probably the only other primarch I really like.
arctic talon
Khan is like 5 steps from going traitor
winter vessel
and Corvus
arctic talon
But he’s still Uber racist
jade holly
Alright fine I’ll just chill with Papa Nurgle
storm jungle
Khan is the best because he atleast isnt a hypocrite
crisp heath
I think Khan is the only character in 40k who is actually racist about human races
storm jungle
LMAO
arctic talon
LOL
arctic talon
Mongolians saying they’d do it again if they got the chance to
jade holly
Who could’ve guessed the dna of Genghis would last to 40k
arctic talon
jade holly
storm jungle
its not really his DNA
jade holly
I know
storm jungle
actually why the fuck does Jag even look asian
hes not even native to Chogoris
💀
I guess its his primarch DNA
jade holly
I mean look at Vulkan
arctic talon
winter vessel
actually why the fuck does Jag even look asian
ahem
crisp heath
@storm jungle Tzeentch typecasts
storm jungle
awful
storm jungle
I mean look at Vulkan
Vulkan was like that because he grew up in an apocalyptic lava planet
thats nothing to do with ethnicity
jade holly
That explains the Salamander part
storm jungle
yup
arctic talon
Same with Corax’s gene seed stealing your melenin lol
winter vessel
Honestly Khan's approach of warfare was really good. Unlike the other primarchs who'd pause for a selfie on their glory, Khan just goes zoomin in with his White Scars and doesn't flaunt their fighting style.
jade holly
Same with Corax’s gene seed stealing your melenin lol
No way he has Joe Biden’s power?
crisp heath
It could be a Corax situation where Khan perceives himself as Asian and can therefore become an Asian
storm jungle
no Biden Blast is what Big E does
jade holly
no Biden Blast is what Big E does
Biden Blast is his ult, everyone knows he has a special command grab useable only against the melanated
arctic talon
Corax’s gene seed just turns you way lighter skinned then you were naturally
And makes your eyes weird
crisp heath
Khan can shape-shift between a guy and a different guy is my new theory
arctic talon
And also might give you psychosis
normal light
What the hell?
storm jungle
Corax’s gene seed just turns you way lighter skinned then you were naturally
You can tell the writers put no thought into this
arctic talon
crisp heath
God I had the Raven Guard heads
storm jungle
same
jade holly
At least the World Eaters are upfront about who they are
crisp heath
Goth marines could be so much cooler
jade holly
I thought it was Word Bearers and World Eaters
jade holly
arctic talon
jade holly
I already confuse Iron Warriors and Iron Hands on a daily basis
storm jungle
Its very easy to remember
hazard striped assholes = IW
Emos = RG
no wait
you meant Iron hands whoops
i forget they exist
💀
winter vessel
I already confuse Iron Warriors and Iron Hands on a daily basis
Iron warriors for me are pretty much "Love the Legion, hate the Primarch"
arctic talon
jade holly
My dumbass was calling Sanguinis’s bois the Blood Angels and not Blood Ravens
crisp heath
Iron hands are the ones led by Iron Hands (who had Iron hands) from his ship Fist of Iron
jade holly
storm jungle
My dumbass was calling Sanguinis’s bois the Blood Angels and not Blood Ravens
THEY ARE THE BLOOD ANGELS
NOT BLOOD RAVENS
jade holly
THEN I WAS RIGHT
winter vessel
Iron hands are the ones led by Iron Hands (who had Iron hands) from his ship Fis...
Like a donut hole, inside a donut's hole
storm jungle
oh my god you wait until you see how many chapters got Blood in their name
almost every Blood Angel successor has a dumbass name
arctic talon
Sanguine. Golden, blood, crimson, flesh
crisp heath
Angels Encarmine is a sick as fuck name sorry
arctic talon
Red
storm jungle
it does
arctic talon
At least be like the Atlantean spears
winter vessel
Sanguine. Golden, blood, crimson, flesh
And then someone goes "I think they're vegans".
arctic talon
And have a unique scheme
normal light
I think I’ll stick with the legion that Embody Trump and the stinky bois
Death Guard?
crisp heath
What I hate is that when a successor of one chapter is named or colored like a different first founding chapter
jade holly
Death Guard?
They’re Unironically my fave chaos legion
normal light
They’re Unironically my fave chaos legion
True , they are pretty nice
winter vessel
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/6/6a/AtlantianSpearsChapte...
colorblind
jade holly
True , they are pretty nice
Plus Papa Nurgle is oddly familial
And I find that hilarious
A nurgling slurped up his newest plague and instead of being angry he was happy he had a new unclean one
crisp heath
People like Lamenters a lot but why do they paint themselves like a taxi
winter vessel
People like Lamenters a lot but why do they paint themselves like a taxi
to further fan the flames of hate for those who want to play Lamenters
Literally outside of the universe they manage to get hate. Meta hate
arctic talon
Checkerboards fun
jade holly
Black Templars when someone says bless you and not God bless you
storm jungle
man black templar fans are so bad
crisp heath
Oh that's another naming thing
storm jungle
💀
crisp heath
Too many Templars
arctic talon
Black Templars fans are a coin toss
crisp heath
We need fewer color coded Templars
storm jungle
Literal fascists
arctic talon
the other stereotype
normal light
A nurgling slurped up his newest plague and instead of being angry he was happy ...
It’s a shame they are one of the worst Daemons in the tabletop
storm jungle
we had a lot here
crisp heath
Black Templars are actually a pretty cool idea though so it's a shame
arctic talon
No inbetween
winter vessel
or racists
That's just 40k as a whole.
jade holly
It’s a shame they are one of the worst Daemons in the tabletop
good thing I don’t play the tabletop
arctic talon
It’s so weird
crisp heath
I like the idea of guys so loyal, they refuse to follow orders
storm jungle
We had like BT fans here
arctic talon
Nurglings are broken rn
arctic talon
storm jungle
also meme cover
jade holly
I like Black Templars cause crusaders are cool
arctic talon
normal light
Nurglings are broken rn
Not much
arctic talon
Anyways
winter vessel
I like Black Templars cause crusaders are cool <:Sitgryn:1016269420638765107>
I do too. But If there's one other loyalist Chapter that reveres the Emperor of Mankind as a god it would be the Fire Angels. They're like, BT, but just less angry.
crisp heath
I need more chapters with actual unique structures that set them apart from other chapters
normal light
I like Black Templars cause crusaders are cool <:Sitgryn:1016269420638765107>
I hate a Black Templars because in TTS they can stuck up a squad of 20 Primaris Crusaders which give out a 100 attacks with Chainsword
arctic talon
Beil’tan themed eldar
storm jungle
woop
crisp heath
Huge part of why I like Emperor's Spears is that their tech marines, apothecaries, and librarians are all the same marine
jade holly
What about Dark Eldar fans
crisp heath
They just have druids who handle it all
jade holly
What’s their stereotype
crisp heath
That's cool as shit
crisp heath
Be different
normal light
True
storm jungle
Imperium fans tend to be a lot worse
jade holly
Orks fans are there jsut there for a good time
storm jungle
because their faction has the most IRL paralels
normal light
Dark Eldar fans are pretty normal
They can be a little strange I would add
crisp heath
I hated deldar for a long time, but I got "Path of the Dark Eldar" and while I don't think the stories are banger, I appreciate the edge elves a lot more
arctic talon
But you can usually tel
storm jungle
Orks fans are there jsut there for a good time
Ork fans are either the nicest people you'll meet
Or they just wont shut the fuck up and stop talking in ork-speak
jade holly
because their faction has the most IRL paralels
I heard someone describe the Imperium as imagine siding with Hitler because they’re fighting Cthulhu
arctic talon
(they run a lot of wyches)
storm jungle
I heard someone describe the Imperium as imagine siding with Hitler because they...
Yeah but thats still a bad thing
jade holly
Yes that’s the point
arctic talon
I heard someone describe the Imperium as imagine siding with Hitler because they...
Prolly bcs hitler killed all the other alternatives
normal light
(they run a lot of wyches)
And Incubis
crisp heath
The richer parts of Comorragh sound visually beautiful and they don't lean into sex appeal as much as things like wyches might suggest. Deldar get a grudging thumbs up from me.
jade holly
The Imperium are prejudiced, totalitarian religious zealots who have heavy xenophobia
arctic talon
Comorroagh in kabal controlled areas would be nice
If you’re under kabal protection
jade holly
At least Rome had the audacity to build roads smh
arctic talon
Or cult/coven protection
storm jungle
At least Rome had the audacity to build roads smh
best we can do is warp routes
enjoy the free ride through hell
jade holly
Shame
storm jungle
crisp heath
My brother in emperor how the hell are you going to build a road in space
arctic talon
Being part of a haemonculi coven is prolly the safest you can be lol
As a dark eldar
storm jungle
And we use our vegetable of an emperor
Best I can give you is Joe Biden
winter vessel
The Imperial Guard all the way. Never changed my mind since.
jade holly
Best I can give you is Joe Biden
Can’t even use him as a GPS, mf doesn’t even know where he is
crisp heath
It's recently been pointed out The Emperor in Rimworld is hard-coded to eat antifreeze and that's caused a fun crossover event with 40k
jade holly
I wonder if it’s actually a benefit to humanity to let the Emperor die
normal light
Also funnily enough Chaos Chosen don’t have protections from their Gods in TTS
crisp heath
Like Rimworld's Emperor just can eat antifreeze and considers it as pleasant as a lavish meal, the best food in the game
Anyway I'm saying we don't need the psykers, he just needs to be winterized
arctic talon
That wasn’t the right gif
arctic talon
I wonder if it’s actually a benefit to humanity to let the Emperor die
A new eye of terror is gona open up
So
Probably not
And the imperium is gona survive
normal light
A new eye of terror is gona open up
Eye of Terror on Terra 
jade holly
Welp, if Rodriguez Guillermo and King Arthur can come back
Who says we can’t do the same with the Emperor, somehow
crisp heath
Even if nothing apocalyptic happened when the emperor died, it would still put out the astronomican, which would completely destroy what's left of the Imperiums infrastructure
And without the Imperium, the majority of humanity dies
winter vessel
Welp, if Rodriguez Guillermo and King Arthur can come back
That who you call RG and LJ? cause I call Vulkan Keith David.
crisp heath
Humanity has done nothing but make enemies and sabotage itself for 10,000 years, you really don't want an economic crisis in the middle of that
jade holly
That who you call RG and LJ? cause I call Vulkan Keith David.
Keith David and Lance Reddick both work
I miss Lance
He was such an amazing actor and a great guy
winter vessel
I miss Lance
Pour one out to the man.
jade holly
He would’ve been a PERFECT Vulkan too
crisp heath
My thing is that once all the primarchs are released, waking up the Emperor is the next logical step. However, GW releases those things so slowly and ideas change so often I doubt that would be the case by the time it's "narrative appropriate" to do so
jade holly
My thing is that once all the primarchs are released, waking up the Emperor is t...
How many loyalist primarchs are back?
winter vessel
How many loyalist primarchs are back?
two
crisp heath
Just 2
jade holly
Lion and Roberto?
winter vessel
yes
crisp heath
We're probably getting Russ next
jade holly
isn’t Jataghai Khan fucking about somewhere?
crisp heath
Something something dark eldar
winter vessel
Last seen going speed racer on those Drukhari Assholes.
winter vessel
a plot device
jade holly
arctic talon
I sincerely hope they don’t go beyond 4
jade holly
Vulkan is waiting for his kids to finish his scavenger hunt
arctic talon
For loyalists
arctic talon
Keep primarchs in heresy
jade holly
Without a hand
crisp heath
They're going to bring them all back so they can sell them all
arctic talon
Dorn is prolly dead lol
winter vessel
For loyalists
What would you want for the remaining two
crisp heath
Dorn had the most "fakeout death" ever written lmao
jade holly
What would you want for the remaining two
I’m biased to say Dorn and Vulkan
But it would prob be Leman and… Vulkan
arctic talon
What would you want for the remaining two
Selfish answer is Khan and Corax, realistically it’s gona be Russ and a wild card
crisp heath
I want Raven Daemon Corax as a mini and I'll be happy
I don't even want to play with it
Just want to own it
jade holly
I just want figurines of the Primarchs, not minis, full on figurines
arctic talon
Finding khan would be impossible
winter vessel
Khan and Vulkan
arctic talon
With how huge comorroagh is
jade holly
Finding khan would be impossible
The White Scars are too fast for mere mortals to follow
arctic talon
Kid named reaver jet bike
jade holly
Nomadic SMs on Motorcycles
winter vessel
Harley-Davidsons
jade holly
Leman Russ is in the Warp, somewhere
Khan would unironically blast Wolf Totem into battle
arctic talon
winter vessel
Oh geez Magnus' eyeball, I Just got sent one of those Pixar movie meme posters people are doing and this one was 40k.
jade holly
Send it
jade holly
You think if we plug Ferris into The Golden Throne he’ll overcharge the Emperor?
arctic talon
No
scenic iris
Hello, i want to talk about ogryn lore is now, i remember they are realy bad at thinking and focusing... and self controling, but for one we play as, arent bone headed, right?
arctic talon
Hello, i want to talk about ogryn lore is now, i remember they are realy bad at ...
the ogryns we play as are very smart for ogryns and they probably do have BONE’ead implant
scenic iris
the ogryns we play as are very smart for ogryns and they probably do have BONE’e...
There is qwote(?) that they will ask about it, cuz they smart.
arctic talon
I know one of them has a quote where they complain about the metal bits in their head itching
scenic iris
And as i know, bonehead implant is can be seen as metal plate on side of head...
nocturne crest
Would Halloween be considered a heretical holiday by the Imperium?
scenic iris
I dont think emperium (even WH40k world) have holidays...
arctic talon
And as i know, bonehead implant is can be seen as metal plate on side of head...
It can also be internal
The external version is the most common
Because it’s cheaper
arctic talon
Would Halloween be considered a heretical holiday by the Imperium?
It doesn’t even exist in 40K
Some variation might exist on some worlds
But not Halloween as we know it
nocturne crest
I dont think emperium (even WH40k world) have holidays...
Isn't there that one centred around Sanguinius?
scenic iris
The external version is the most common
If that so - i hope there will be enemies with haywire grenades, it will be hilarius when ogryns just turn on friendly fire mode
urban spire
you can celebrate pretty much whatever you want so long as it doesn't venerate gods other than the emperor
and even there the imperial cult can be pretty tolerant
what with the saints and such
weary bane
I mean every planet has its own cultural development too
So other than cross imperial celebrations
Don't doubt there are an ever increasing number of cultural holidays per planet
rose sail
I dont think emperium (even WH40k world) have holidays...
I was thinking about if a version of Christmas (called like Emperormas or some shit) is a thing. Sad to see it apparently isnt
celest dome
While we only know of Sangiunala. There might be other celebrations that are adapted which would happen here.
But they might do Sanguinala (Christmas) for Darktide, and keep the Halloween one for Vt2
But they might do Sanguinala (Christmas) for Darktide, and keep the Halloween one for Vt2
crystal forum
stoned thought: did primarchs treat all their chapter like their literal sons
weary bane
stoned thought: did primarchs treat all their chapter like their literal sons
100% didnt
celest dome
Well Angron hated then
weary bane
not like ALL didnt
celest dome
Perturabo saw them as tools
weary bane
just
100% some didnt
which was extremely ironic and hypocritical of them
they bitch fit cause daddy E didnt treat them better
so they justified their treatment of their "sons"
crystal forum
yeah but like even abusive parents have children. did they still view as at least related?
weary bane
Magnus was pretty good if i recall
literally damned himself to save his sons
dude wasnt even a traitor
he tried to WARN about horus and the heresy
he fucked up so hard he felt so guilty
celest dome
Magnus did nothing right
outer wave
Okay weird thought: does the Imperium have an Imperial version of Santa Claus?
celest dome
Sanguinus
outer wave
Damn I wanted there to be an excuse for a white bearded ogryn cosmetic for Christmas
celest dome
You mean Great Horned Rat day ?
weary bane
silly rats
weary bane
where's it happening again?
green loom
Twitch
weary bane
you think they'd have put it as a scheduled stream
green loom
green loom
Online isn't physically
green loom
Sorry bad morning 
echo vault
No blood bowl no aeronautica imperialis worthless
echo vault
no Lord of the rings extra worthless
echo vault
CraZy? I was crazy once, they put me in a room, a rubber room, a rubber room full of rats, rubber rats, and rats make me crazy, crazy? I was crazy once, they put me in a room, a rubber room, a rubber room full of rats, rubber rats, and rats make me go crazy
weary bane
HH is more cringe than Bloodbowl
HOW
HH brought dumb forgeworld to plastic
its done more for the community than bloodbowl ever did
celest dome
HH is 90% SM. That's cringe
echo vault
Eat it and then die
weary bane
their resin is so bad they actually have efficiently created a system of GETTING YOU FIXED PRODUCT
when you're shits so consistently fucked you have the means to fix the problem that fast
you got an issue
or how about foregworlds issue of using 3d printed master models for their molds then not yeh know
making sure print lines arnt visible in the fucking mold
arctic talon
This is forgeworld
Which hasn’t improved a lot
But was better then finecast
Forgeworld it’s a fucking dice roll
Some molds are great
Others suck ass
Yeah
Smaller models are generally good now
But by god
Some of the molds were fucking bad lol
arctic talon
no HH, no LI
HH already has had all its reveals anyways
It’s why it’s sharing a slot with LI for news
I’m also never touching LI unless I can run a full titan legion
Mostly since I already have a titanicus army for titanicus
weary bane
HH already has had all its reveals anyways
i just want li launch date
we wont ever see astartes 2
gw would never respect his needs
timber plinth
So
I have a question that I could probably google but here
Why do people treat psykers so poorly if the Emperor of mankind himself is a psyker
weary bane
Why do people treat psykers so poorly if the Emperor of mankind himself is a psy...
because they're direct links to the warp, aka mega hell
timber plinth
makes sense
weary bane
imagine being near someone who at any moment could explode into daemons
timber plinth
imagine being near someone who at any moment could explode into daemons
I mean I would have thought more so
"Hey this guy could pop my brain at anytime."
"Not cash money."
weary bane
that too
timber plinth
Okay sweet thanks
So Malcador apart from Magnus was the second most powerful human psyker right?
Did they treat him weirdly?
weary bane
he had Big e
celest dome
Warhammer day is usually just for TT. Skull is the one where other stuff can be shown
green loom
Why do people treat psykers so poorly if the Emperor of mankind himself is a psy...
The Emperor is the God of Mankind who can do no wrong, the psykers are witch mutants to be abhorred and feared
green loom
Did they treat him weirdly?
Nah he rarely overtly used his powers afaik and was also head honcho of a lot of the Imperium's orgs
If you caused a stink with him you were probably on track to mysteriously disappear
arctic talon
Man founded the inquisition and assasinorum lol
And his symbol is used by a majority of imperial organizations
green loom
Because he more or less ran most of them
arctic talon
Lol
celest dome
So Malcador apart from Magnus was the second most powerful human psyker right?
I think it could be debated that Malcador was stronger than Magnus
arctic talon
He was stronger then lorgar most likely
timber plinth
I think it could be debated that Malcador was stronger than Magnus
Magnus was Big E's proposed disciple for sitting on the throne and controlling the webway right?
arctic talon
Yeah
But we don’t get any huge large scale showings of malcadors power
Other then him eating a slap to the face from a primarch
And making Horus his bitch
weary bane
i mean
he held the position on the throne till big e came back
from the perspective of a naturally born psyker
dude was 2nd to big e, magnus had cheat codes
timber plinth
Magnus was kinda engineered
Malcador was natty
Natty brain gains huge wrinkles
No smooth
Thanks for letting me pick ur brains fellas
❤️
celest dome
Less mana, but better at applying it
storm jungle
HH is 90% SM. That's cringe
Best take thank you
I've seen enough generic legion captains and boring marine units in the last few weeks for HH to last me a lifetime
queen laurel
what ship class is the mourning star
storm jungle
what ship class is the mourning star
queen laurel
https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Firestorm-class_Frigate
Nice
that's actually a pretty cool ship class
storm jungle
the Imperiun has like 100 classes so it was hard to find 💀
that and almost all of them looking the same
queen laurel
that and almost all of them looking the same
yeah they really love that big frontal ramp looking thing for a design
queen laurel
Its a ram ye
i thought orks are the only ones willing to pull that maneuver, literally with the single push of a button every single thruster on their Starship would go into maximum Overdrive
storm jungle
Imperial ships are based on old naval battle stuff
hence the stupid broadside cannons and the front-ramming tips
queen laurel
hence the stupid broadside cannons and the front-ramming tips
Good thing the rest of the Galaxy are stupid enough to follow them
queen laurel
hence the stupid broadside cannons and the front-ramming tips
Oh yeah going back a little on dark side I think I found a way for a complete personality change to work, Sefoni seems to be extremely powerful so it's not far for her to say ramble your brain a little to change your personality right, for the voice good old krall can take care of that problem
storm jungle
Uhh I mean thats not really how humans work
Krall puts it best when you first meet him where he says he can literally CHANGE anything but
"Your personality? There you are on your own im afraid."
which is pretty deep 💀
queen laurel
Uhh I mean thats not really how humans work
But this is warhammer so come on
Let's just say that the funny space wizard just did that for fun
storm jungle
barren ether
Aside from the stereotypical corpse starch and what not, I wonder how good food can be if you’re a noble in the imperium
I’m craving some Zaxby’s right now but they aren’t open so all I am thinking about is food
Where’s my intergalactic fast food chains
Where’s my intergalactic soul food. I’d kill for some proper cajun marines in 40k. They’d cook up mega crawfish and some potentially literal lethal grits
storm jungle
Its basically IRL rich-dickhead meals but mix in some exotic local planetary food/animals/beverages into the mix
barren ether
Yes I feel as though I’d become ridiculously obese if I were born the son to some sector lord
Just imagine all the good food available to you
I’d easily fall to Slaanesh in the name of cuisine
Only in death does my appetite end
barren ether
So obviously one can’t really eat tyranid but I wonder how gamey orc would taste
Gotta love using an orc skull to hold muh grapes
storm jungle
There's a short story that deals with this: ||major agri combine is mixing salvaged xenos corpses with grox meat so they can fulfill Administratum tithe quotas, and killing anyone who finds out.||
barren ether
There's a short story that deals with this: ||major agri combine is mixing salva...
Well you gotta give me more then
Details, I need details
queen laurel
So obviously one can’t really eat tyranid but I wonder how gamey orc would taste
If you want to eat ork you may as well just eat squigs, apparently they taste like sweet ham if cooked properly
Theoretically you can have a controlled environment where you just grow squigs for dinner
barren ether
Alright so squigs are good for human consumption that’s good
I bet Eldar exodites have some amazing cattle to eat
queen laurel
Alright so squigs are good for human consumption that’s good
yeah but only specific types because there are squigs that are literally bombs
barren ether
yeah but only specific types because there are squigs that are literally bombs
Don’t threaten me with a good time 😤
I’m unironically hungry and am too lazy to make some food rn so all I can think about are 40k’s meat options
Now I wonder what the consistency of corpse starch is, and how one could potentially make it taste real good
queen laurel
Don’t threaten me with a good time 😤
i think you wouldn't want to eat something like this
barren ether
i think you wouldn't want to eat something like this
Look I’ll probably die of some prion disease but at least I’ll die satiated
queen laurel
Look I’ll probably die of some prion disease but at least I’ll die satiated
that is true
barren ether
This is assuming the fucker doesn’t blow up on me as you mentioned with the whole “explosive squig” bit
near wasp
I bet some pterdon wings would make a good stew
boreal fiber
Do any of the books ever go into what daily life is like for a citizen on a hive world/in the Imperium in general? Is it full dystopia or do they have Bars, "normal people problems," and entertainment?
median marsh
stuff like bars most likely exist on all levels, the higher youre up on the spire the more options you have
Enforcer Psyker for example says that Tertium has, or had, a famous theatrical scene
Zealot often gets drunk on the valkyrie apparently
near wasp
Wouldnt you
median marsh
weve also seen a bar in the Melk cutscene
near wasp
Petition for a cantina
queen laurel
weve also seen a bar in the Melk cutscene
pastimes are a thing in the ship
median marsh
ye
queen laurel
Petition for a cantina
Definitely
green loom
There's a bar on the mourningstar
median marsh
Masozi plays some card game, the name of which i keep forgetting, with the squad
green loom
You can see it in the release date trailer
median marsh
Dark Tarot i think?
near wasp
Masozi plays some card game, the name of which i keep forgetting, with the squad
The zealot accuses her of cheating
Or was it the vet
median marsh
everyone does in fact
queen laurel
Masozi plays some card game, the name of which i keep forgetting, with the squad
she even got hallowette to get her a Calthan brandy
near wasp
She definitely cheats
queen laurel
which means that hallowette probably delivers exquisitely special food and drinks on the ship
median marsh
probably yeah, Zola goes to her for some special items she needs
green loom
she even got hallowette to get her a Calthan brandy
An Ollanius classic
median marsh
she also personally knows the Shipmistress apparently
green loom
Yeah she's probably one of her Lieutenants
Since she handles smuggling and shit she's probably the supply officer
median marsh
one of the new dialogue lines has Hallowette tell melk that in Shipmistess' own words she got no time for "Social Climbers"
get wrecked melk
near wasp
Poor melk, cant climb the ladder and i wear his cloths better than him. He cant catch a break
barren ether
Poor melk, cant climb the ladder and i wear his cloths better than him. He cant ...
Truly a lore accurate 40k experience
As is we lowkey wear hand me downs in my head canon
But man the drip is real
Service in the Inquisition truly does have its perk
near wasp
At lvl 30 my psyker walked his ass down to hallowette to buy a psychics hood. Id like to think it was the first new thing hes ever owned
barren ether
I’m actually being serious when I say that. Retinues are different between inquisitors, but at least ours allows us to choose what we want to wear and use the weaponry we want
storm jungle
Do any of the books ever go into what daily life is like for a citizen on a hive...
Carrion Throne and Bloodlines along with some other Necromunda novels do a good showcase of it.
The thing is theres no "good" life in the Imperium, its full on dystopia, but people still have a lot of the things we do IRL in most major cities etc, just replace it with the likely chance of dying to anything random on the street and you are pretty much set.
Best you can do is little moments of "escape" like visiting entertainment districts to eat shitty food or drink shitty sci-fi beer for just an hour or two before you go back to your hellish lifestyle lol
near wasp
Carrion Throne and Bloodlines along with some other Necromunda novels do a good ...
That just sounds like a walk through Chicago or baltimore
storm jungle
Literally
but yeah like its not like lets say Star Wars or Star Trek
where theres just normal functioning cities with people chilling and doing random shit to have fun
40k has these too of course but its just way more dystopian about it with a darker shade behind it.
boreal fiber
Thanks. Kinda how I was picturing it in my head.
storm jungle
Yeah happy to help
don't listen to anyone that says theres "good parts" in it, it's all shit down to the bottom to the highest hive city spire 💀
queen laurel
Best you can do is little moments of "escape" like visiting entertainment distri...
yeah take night city from cyberpunk, make the living conditions like 20 times worse
storm jungle
Yeah literally that
near wasp
If your important, life doesnt completely suck only mostly sucks
boreal fiber
yeah take night city from cyberpunk, make the living conditions like 20 times wo...
I was thinking about a worse version of this.
I just got into WH40k lore this week watching Luetin videos.
median marsh
As is we lowkey wear hand me downs in my head canon
thats pretty much the case, the characters even mention that its more than likely that the stuff they buy off her will eventually find its way back to her after their demise
jade holly
The premium shop or the Commissary?
median marsh
several sets also mention previous owner, like the helmet that has the names of everyone who wore it
both
jade holly
Then where did she get the Krieg uniforms
scenic bolt
off dead krieg soldiers
like every outfit was previously owned and came into the black market supply chain
queen laurel
Then where did she get the Krieg uniforms <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
Corpses provide valuable supply
median marsh
(theres also an entire cutscene about how your weapons are pretty much salvaged from the field corpses)
jade holly
You what would be hilarious?
green loom
Then where did she get the Krieg uniforms <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
Grendyl has a squad of Korpsmen in his detinje
jade holly
If as an Easter egg you can see Yarrick’s claw on the display behind Hallowe
queen laurel
(theres also an entire cutscene about how your weapons are pretty much salvaged ...
yeah, we are scraping by the barrel here
green loom
*retinue
jade holly
Does every legion have their own chapter of Templars or something?
Apparently the Ultramarines have the Silver Templars
barren ether
Does every legion have their own chapter of Templars or something?
No
Names are just that: names
jade holly
The more I learn of the chapters the more Imperial Fist become my favorite
barren ether
There are crusading chapters yes and plenty of them, but the Black Templars are unique
jade holly
Because 1) they have the Black Templars
- they also have the Hospitallers
which If what I’m seeing is accurate., they’re a more support based chapter?
barren ether
Yes it appeals to the normie 40k fans. The Black Templars are okay
No
No chapter is support based
jade holly
Ok then the fact they have the medic color scheme is coincidence
barren ether
Like Astartes are special operators. They function as killing machines. Even chapters like the mentors who work closely with humans aren’t support based in that regard
Homie I appreciate the enthusiasm for the setting but it would do you well to look this stuff up on Lexicanum
jade holly
Yeah probably
barren ether
Many of your questions could be answered by Lexicanum, which would give far more accurate answers than all of us
As is with your original question on the Templars: games workshop isn’t always creative with chapter naming conventions. A lot of chapters have names just to give players ideas for how to name their home brews
jade holly
So making up your own chapters is encouraged?
barren ether
Heavily dude. It’s like a massive portion of the fan base and the setting
jade holly
Cool
barren ether
Part of the reason there are 2 lost legions is to make room for players to homebrew their own legions
Any fanfic will generally have self insert legions in the place of the lost legions. Like a shit ton of them lol
That’s also the reason why the number of known loyalist chapters and traitor warbands is unknown, as it makes room for players to create their own
jade holly
Damn there’s like nothing on the Hospitallers
barren ether
Thank god as every crusader weaboo already simps for the Black Templars
Need more white scars love
jade holly
Wake me when they get a Harley-Davidson inspired chapter
barren ether
Well if you wanna talk speeders than that’s literally the white scars and many of their successors
Gotta love that amalgamation of asiatic cultures
And that love for speed
jade holly
That’s why I said that