#40k-lore-chat
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Emperor is really setting the bar low then
fr
also they wear chains for some reason
into like
their skin
i dont knwo ifi ts supposed ot be liek a tattoo
or like like literal chians
Yeah, the mechanicus straight up refuses to share the same comms with other imperial factions aside from at the highest level lol
Skitarii and tech priests on the field are on their own comms
rad weapons go brrrrrr
Noosphere > vox anyways
hey warhammer fandom wiki im starting to think this is fan fiction and not actual lore
What are you reading lol
lexicanum has more sources
like SOURCES sources
not just "hey its on a wiki"
im going through the sources right now
Unfortunately sometimes lexicanums sources are bullshit
it doesnt even link WHAT claim is related to WHAT source
They're probably just posting on obscure messages boards all the while battling necrons at the same time
On a page on about the imperial guard
i mean admech do have their own language
basically vocalized binary
binharic cant, Lingua-technis, hexamathic code, noospheric bleed and Novabyte
apparently
Lingua technis is the big one
Overall
It’s also what’s “spoken” in the mechanicus game
its in the hwo to paint, with no lore
its in teh 5th edition codex on the fucking map no lore
im about to reread those armour volumes but im 99% sure htey werent in the badab war
and i dont have that short story
ITS AF UCKING MECHANICUS STORY
yeah that could literally mean naything
my bad its AN IMPERIAL GUARD SOTRY
All of the voice beeps for the tech priest characters, minus the Heretek DLC
Couldn't find this anywhere, so i made it myself
heretek dlc voices: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-cZkW30IHI
controllable tech priests and troops: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqr8Bx1V5n0
Timestamps:
Captrix - 0:00
Faustinus - 1:14
Khepra - 2:11
Reditus - 3:18
...
Faustinus sounds like a fuckin BOSS
teh quote might be from it

Mechanicus has so much good dialogue lol
I’m probably gonna do knights of the raven, the same chapter I shit talked for being literally 2 colors lol
(Main this is they paint their company color on their knee)
Its been like 3 years
it literally would have been out before if GW didn't buy the guy
💀
hate
We'll see kinda doubt it
they already butchered the Exodite but this has space marines so i hope its not the same.
The creator was also making a lot of fucking money before GW picked him up and made him delete his videos
he also moved onto an entirely different animation project on his patreon so I guess Astartes 2 might be the end of it
I mean yeah because he isnt producing 40k content on his patreon anymore

^
He has entirely moved on, I was there the exact day he got picked up by GW and did the mass video delete, he lost a lot of patrons after that, he probably built them up after like 3 years but its nowhere near as much as it was before
Ah yeah maybe, got no idea at this point
his patroen is full on non-40k content
whats new lol
unironically better then doing nothing
Ikr
also its very obviousy not a lot of people care about what Syama does after he just dropped Astartes which sucks.
yeah
Its very obvious he'd have made more Astartes content if GW didn't pick him up.
Yeah but like i dont care is the thing
real
yeeee
I don't count dice check because I don't think he's running that
I too wish I could sit and talk with a guy who goes "JEYSUS" at everything I read off a wikipedia page as we laugh for an hour.

It kinda is but also kinda isn't
I legit only put up Ad ridiculous when im playing something on in the background.
Yeah pretty much
ironically I like their detective stuff a lot more

creepy IRL crime cases inject that into my arm
mmm
Murder mysteries
I think its funny
how multiple content creators
of different games I played
ended up making Warhammer content

Its a very easy IP to make money from if you can get a good audience following
its definitely an amazing piece of animation but at the end of the day its pretty much classic marine wankery
yeah
Uhh depends
Astartes is shut your brain off and wojak point at cool setpieces, a lot more cinematic and zero corporate shit
Pariah Nexus is a good piece of animation that is super corporate and stretched into 3 episodes with awful formatting
Like Bricky and Shy are 2 dif content creators I used to follow lol
for dif games

God shy is so cringe
lol
she still plays warframe
I also dont really like people whos entire personality is "Haha im a shithead"
which shy is someone like that, she said so herself 
same YEET
Only reason I remotely enjoy their content is because they managed to get the awful old melee system fucking killed in warframe lol
I thank allah every day for not letting me play Warframe
tried 40m of it and yeah no thanks
oh shit i made it all the way to adulthood without getting a personality, what do i do
hears the I'm An Asshole song
oh thank god
also it helped that back when she still made warframe content she was actually half competent at the game
unlike most of the people who still make Warframe content today
warframe makes me want to die a little bit every time i play it
He took over that show from Magickarpusedfly
Yeah they had a huge burn out and Magick gave over ownership to Bricky
tragic
but expected with how much content they were like
putting out
Yeaaaah now Magick has made like
One video talking about horror movies?
I havent watched it yet but it looks pretty good and well made, as are his videos
I dont think hes been on an episode of Dice Check since
isn't there a 40k horror short story collection or something
Probably
Warhammer Horror
its very good
highly recomend both Warhammer Crime and Warhammer Horror
Mostly since I want more small scale stuff
same
Speaking of, Watcher in the Rain, yay or nay?
Absolutely and 100% yay
prob one of the best 40k audio-dramas out there, not too long not too short, very easy to digest story.
Pog
Watcher in the rain
Better as an audio book or a book to read?
Poggy
Im pretty sure its an audio-drama?
unless theres a book version I got no idea
oh LOL
Funny how they all used to be League youtubers 
somewhere floating around online
I have no comment on how long I've played League of Legends
only that it has not driven me insane
over the years
please help
Only one Im still subbed to is Darkmane and his stuff hasnt really changed except for his art (his art's gotten better tbh)
It did
But oh god I feel the stagnancy with his channel sadly
He's a funny guy but wow his jokes feel almost the same per vid
this art style was peak
Bricky really is the most successful of the three tbh
yeah
I still follow this one ancient ex pro player called TRM 
Poor guy is banned everywhere so has to play on South America
Whew
I remember when people like Videogamedunkey were League youtubers before he entirely quit, thank god for that
My fav will forever be Robbaz probably
got real sick of his content
TRM is uber toxic lol
I stopped watching Dunkey after some of his weirder takes and him trying to be serious while being hard if he actually was being serious
Warband
Im still subbed to him! I dont watch his videos
What videos
Lmao
Im literally only into League for the lore and characters, the game can burn in the deepest pits of Tartarus.

the game ironically
Im not into any of it except Sion
is in a better state then its ever been
Sion my boy
also Arcane Season 2 please
and way less toxic lol
2024 winter iirc
Taratrus
always sell out
Wouldn't call it selling out
Fr
nothing is worth being poor
not yet at least heh
Majorkill is more famous for his patreon imo
AR's patreon makes more money in a month than my family does in a year 
||its not even good||
True and fair
if someone tries to tell you that being poor and starving is the only way to be an artist, immediately destroy them
Legit depressing tbh
"You should make art to inspire others!" is a take I've heard lol
Just make furry art and youll be well off
Which like, if you can afford it cool 
get commissioned by the guy who pays people to draw women buying wonderbread
i dont
Once I'm good enough I'm sure the like
5 people who commission all warhammer artists to make their OCs will eventually get to me
Long way off though 
Oh yeah it'll take some time
you'll get there
Man I wish I started much much earlier and kept at it
I started like, a year before COVID or so
Hell yeah
Also pro tip
make sure to ABSOLUTELY exploit space marine fans
they are legit money whales
i want to draw more but i hate drawing on paper, and that's all i got
Oh 100%

👀
With big mammaries if possible
Oh yeah that too, generic female 40k characters also make good money
Working on it 
Still, good progress on both!
Anyway lores
Where are my Ogre Kingdoms in Space
Random hyper intelligent ogryn would be fun
That'd be pretty rad
Gimme Ogres that get high off combat drugs and drive delerict old age tech around at high speed
I want secessionists
Nope!
Grey Pfryn
is that the psyker ogryn?
Ogryn
Votaan are getting slower cause they haven't emptied their cache in a long time
For Grey Ogryns ? No, those are mythical Ogryn that would be uber smart. We don't yet know if they really exist
ah
They are gonna be around its just that they JUST came out, a book is underway by Gav Thorpe, it just takes awhile to get a faction properly rolling.
also its very hard juggling all these factions and GW departments when it comes to lore/minis etc are very disconnected from each other
feels like they came out a minute ago
yeah time is like that 
Also you can't have them interacting with factions much
Since like
Their lore rn is no one knows they're in the core lmao 
Yeah we had A FEW interactions
but its been like
"Oh they were there during the Murdercurse and instantly bailed"
Demiurg are the Demiurg because the Tau aren't aware of the other guys
I think a cool bit is the ironheads for Necromunda
yeah they're neat
but i mean, since they're back in the game i imagine they're going to be playing at least some kind of role in the lore
also their region of space is like directly intersected by the cicatrix maledictum
Yeah but don't expect anything much.
They are in the xenos category and we know how xenos get treated by GW lol
I still find that hilarious
Corpo Moment 💀
why care about space dwarves when you got generic tin-men in big armor

Tbh
The best bet for 40k games
Is Rogue Traders/Inquisition
But
Marines are just that stupid popular
they're fine
Man I can't wait for Rogue Trader
i didn't really like their other games, the pathfinder ones
I liked the Pathfinders a good bit
hopefully not being D&D will change that
Honestly like
if there was a Marine he would literally play no different than the Ogryn
you'd just have more Veteran-esque tactical-shooter skills and thats kind of it.
yeah
so its really not that big of a deal as much as people back during the teaser trailer demanded it 
Sister of battle would just be preacher
honestly yeah lol
shoutsout to the latest steam thread about how the player characters in darktide could never even hope to make the merest scratch in a space marine's armour
you can literally RP as one just get the bolter for a female zealot
meanwhile
4 Ogryn team exists
4 psykers would wipe the floor with a marine
Yeah like we are way more than equipped to kill a marine lol
Krak, Plasma, Nades, Power-weapons etc
we can kill a beast of nurgle
We can kill a coked up chaos spawn
the only stretch with the Beast is that the whole infection/radius thing but otherwise yeah 
the infection thing is kind of silly in the lore anyway
you can't have every interaction with nurgle related stuff cause incurable death illness
Yeah and they acknowledge it by saying you go through quarantine
aka shit ton of soap and holy incense probabpy

You can have a bit of corruption, as a treat
also most of the unlockable gear has like rebreathers and stuff
there's an implication that surviving your first couple missions entitled you to some additional protection there
hey apropos of that, the new penance drip owns
oh no yeah if you get eaten you are fucking dead
shame the penances still kinda suck
List of things we have that would murder a marine, power sword, power maul, thunderhammer, eviscerator, plasma gun, the psykers entire goddamn collection of staffs and abilities, ogryn
also like
I don’t need to elaborate beyond ogryn
Because an ogryn can tear a marine apart
Harlequins lul
LMAO
Marines move very fast
;-;
yeah Astartes and Space Marine 1 does a good job of showing it
they are fast fridges
i love the argument that a marine would win because he would simply instantly detect the rejects and shoot all 4 of them simultaneously to death
Custodes fans be like
Custodes fans are weird
its really not weird
Dying an ignoble death is
they are just playing THE mary sue faction
I would resent that if it were not true

Harlequin solitaires are fucking stupid tbh lol
if marines were as good as marine fans make them out to be they wouldn't need the geneseed stuff, none of them would ever have died
Custodes players being angry the Norn emissary murders like 4 custodes
what is the norn emissary
New model
Specialized nid assassination creature
Basically high high ranking bioform
the onle people who have a right to be upset are eldar and tyranid fans
Massive assassin IIRC
It’s like a lictor on crack
its literally a Hive Tyrant
And a contortionist
but basically what everyone here has said
It’s not a synapse creature
literally everyone has killed an avatar of khaine it feels like
Is what’s weird
Mfw one of the best showings of the avatar of khaine
Is in a mechanicus book

Please let the avatar of khaine slaughter things
Custodes drop like flies sometimes
But only when the plot demands
no. their blood is just pure copium
imagine a psychic entity killing something
stuffs ravenor under the bed
couldn't be real
inhale Cavill is just like me inhale he's so based!!!!
But the Norn emissary killing that many people is like
Pretty fucking accurate lol
It’s huge. It’s psychic, and its entire goal is to kill a specific person
And then everything else it can
i love its called the emissary
i hope cavill keeps it together long enough to make one good 40k thing
That'd be nice
ye
send like 30 to the emperor
arent they fairly close?
No
We gonna take bets on what gate they reach
Lol
nah just
Getting into the palace is the hard part
Mean?
someone has to kick the empra off the throne sooner or later
Never gona happen
i know
Changes the status quo way too much
Nah leave this guy alone
Unless we get 40K end times lol
He is mostly serving as GPS
the resulting amount of seething would be legendary
Doubt it’s gona happen
Empire Nihilus Moment
deathleaper has thigh highs
i bet they will reach 1 more gate than Horus did then get wreaked by some plot McGuffin
cant prove me wrong
Unless 40K becomes hugely unprofitable
Imperium even shittier edition
Nids are getting thicker with newer bio-forms
Like the lions gate or the eternity gate

Do not the bug
hornying the nids is moral
Do not the nid
do the nid
this post was writted by a Genestealer wasnt it
have you SEEN the genestealer magus?
How to get acid burns 101
Ok , I call for support from Imperial Guard
Genestealers Kiss is some messed up stuff
i have a soft spot for nids, i like everything organic/hive/bug
My man got the french-kiss treatment from that lictor

Nids range from "very hot" to "kind of silly" to "sir that is a dog'
i like that they are a very slow tide of near certain doom
even before they arrive the mere fact that theyre zoning in on you causing cataclysms
Just remember
The genestealers don’t have sex with you, they just violate you in different ways
Genestealers literally do

No they don’t
they are based on giger's work
The kiss is genetic manipulation via injection I forgot about
And then when you have a baby
It’ll make a nid hybrid
That’s how it works
if a genestealer makes you part of its reproductive cycle, that's sex
Until given sauce I'll never not consider the patriarch with a harem of brain washed peeps
sorry that's the rules
Lol
That is true actually
which is to say
Hey. Nobody said they did it like humans do
holding hands?
No you do that after
Holding hands
sorry you're gregnant now
pregante
💃
il tempo pregante
Hey
gambling on at least one other person here being scandinavian enough to get that joke
Are eldar ACTUALLY impotent basically or are they just selective as hell and don't wish to fall into shit again?
Define long time
They take a while to have a baby
You need to have sex multiple times
Across multiple months
To conceive a baby
Lol
Charging the eldar baby bank
like a dark souls status effect
Also eldar don’t make kids
Unless they have excess soul stones
I’m talking about craftworld specifically
For obvious reasons
that's cra- yeah
So it's not that they can't it's that they are intentionally massively restrictive of it?
The druhkari don’t give a shit
Yeah
They don’t want to give birth to a kid
And have their kid damned to eternal torment
which is fair honestly
The drukhari just vatgrow there's because no drukhari woman would risk being pregnant in comorragh
I mean there are some
that's one of the reasons i'll probably never have a kid
Naturalborn Dark Eldar act and behave like theyre the most elite things to ever exist
In fucking comorroagh
the primary reason being womb surgeries still aren't very widely available and i don't have money
But man
You just know the exodites are down 24/7
You don't have a hippy planet without turning it into a hippy planet ykno
joining the exodite polycule
But eldar don’t live a boring life by any means
The amount of partying a craftworld eldar does would prolly kill a human lol
The reason GW never shows us exodites planets is because they don't want their product to be considered 18+
It’s just considered restrained
Whats the deal with the dark eldar and their whole bein sadistic mf
By eldar culture lol
its how they dont get snatched by me slaanesh
They’re grown from what’s left of the old eldar empire
inflicting suffering "refills" their souls which are constantly, slowly drained away
parting?
Partying
ah
Slaanesh keeps stealing souls out of the soul jar so they have to top it off
Slaanesh is eating it
What's the dif for them vs normal eldar?
Slaanesh has a claim on every eldar soul
They don’t have a soul stone
Or world circuit
Because they snoo snoo'd a God into existence
craftworld eldar have soul stones which keep their souls from being snacks
To protect them
the location stops their souls from getting violently ripped out instantly but it cant prevent a slow trickle
exodites have given up the hedonistic lifestyle which means slaanesh no longer has a hold on them
Dude Comorragh weed must be insane
webway is funky
So eldar would happen too without a soulstone?
That's why they have such controlled offspring
If they lost their soul stone
They’re technically infinite
a soulstone is basically to instantly trap your own soul before an eldritch monster slurps you up
Except to get them you uh
How?
Also a craftworlder can be such a freak it's soul stone is grossed out and stops working
And wait for like
The warp weather to start raining the stones
Tldr it’s very high risk
To get a soul stone
And they’re literally raining down from the sky on eldar crone worlds
that's why returning eldar soul stones to craftworlds is like the one thing that will get them to be kinda okay with you
unless you're ravenor
i guess they just thought he was groovy
Tbh
If it’s not beil’tan
You can negotiate
If it’s beil’tan it’s imperium eldar edition
Tbf Eldar mostly like humans, they're just stuck up pricks who think we're the stuck up pricks because humans don't always listen to the superior species
no no
Beil’tan is comically xenophobic
eldar have a VERY good reason to dislike humans
It’s almost silly
Eldar don’t like killing humans
Ironicially
Unless it’s beil’tan
In which that case all aboard the genocide train
its generally a good idea to not poke something that, if pressed enough to actually notice, can reduce you to dust
Beil’tan are so comically racist they don’t consider dark eldar or eldar from some craftworlds as real eldar
Occasionally the harlequins will find some less xenophobic human world on the fringe of the imperium and be like "wow these sad fucks need a puppet show"
it's very funny to me that craftworld eldar are the less technologically advanced ones, but the deldar don't use their coolest shit for combat because they'd rather fly on green goblin hoverboards
Dark eldar also can’t even use the best stuff lol
Since you need to be a Psyker
To use it 
Vect is balling
i had a long argument with someone once about whether or not they could build a dyson sphere
Eldar?
Why would Vect even want the best tech when he rides around like this
Or the imperium
drag a space marine cruiser into the city so SMs invade to get it back and kill your rivals
yeah eldar
no way the imperium can
not at this point in time
Vect's mini makes him the coolest guy in 40k
conveniently put your new rivals really close to the demon gate thats about to bust open
the scale of a dyson sphere is so massive
Dark eldar prolly could build one
But craftworld nah
They don’t have the ability to
i don't think the deldar have the infrastructure either
theyre always busy scheming
Necrons probably have like 5 active and 6 that are the personal property of a guy who forgot how to turn them on
Trazyn has one without a shred of doubt
necrons could have done it back in the day but it doesn't seem like they have
They can’t do it now for sure
They made the Pariah Nexus pretty recently
Which is much more impressive than a Dyson sphere
what is the pariah nexus anyway
Then a Dyson sphere
Giant blackstone pillar arrays
Set up on a bunch of worlds
It pretty much calms the warp into a still sea
ah
sometimes i look at Necron tech and have a stroke because they have shit like a black hole on wheels
Instead of an ocean of waves
(not literally but similar)
like the thing on cadia?
i wish we'd see more of the warp
Shame it uh fucking sucks your soul out lol
Warp was the one thing Necrons new forms were suspectible too iirc so they, in typical fashion made counter measures
"Fuck your space magic, nerd"
It's a ring of Necron Pylons on dozens of worlds, with a system-spanning Blackstone structure at the center and a fleet of satellites and manned vessels protecting it
Basically warp go away juice
that's still not on the scale of a dyson sphere
Yeah
Cawl tried understanding how they work, the rest of Mechanicum would probably immediately commit die at a mere suggestion of working with a xenos
We could make a Dyson sphere with enough money and a spare sun
We couldn't make a pariah nexus
The mechanicus in general is hoarding blackstone now lol
They’re staging smash and grabs
we do not have the material science
On necron operations lol
Remember when abandon just yeeeted an irreplaceable balckstone fortress into cadia
It was already disabled
He salvaged a bad situation with it
well yeah, when the entire galaxy gets ripped in half you have to rethink your ways
We literally do, it would just have to he a fleet
that's not a dyson sphere though
Throw enough money at that problem, make a Dyson fleet, and keep throwing satellites at it until it turns into a sphere
a swarm is a different thing
^
or fleet, whichever
I will repeat it until it becomes true
i don't think that's a very big problem in modern society
The earth is hollow and we're on the inside
Lol
it strangely keeps popping up and i refuse to believe its not an elaborate troll
Just thinking how the age of technology humanity were rediculous
Skulls are like, the easiest thing to get in 40k
True
Life is the cheapest currency in the imperium
she probably doesn't even know where the skulls came from they just had them laying around
Lol
"if you lose my servoskull i shall look to you for a replacement"
Bloodtide
love Hadron, despite being mechanicus she doesnt shy away from occasional humor
An ai conciousness made of uncountable numbers of nanomachines
"access...denied, lmao get pranked"
Hadron sounds so done with everything lol
no, this is darktide
she did say shes been alive for like 300+ years and most of em she was angry
relatable
Wonder how many rivals she’s made “have accidents” to get where she is
You know i didnt fully grasp what she meant by that until now. At first i was like "oh shes gonna make us go get her a new one" now i realize its "oh shes gonna turn us into one"
The hels it is
🪚

turning into a servoskull is like
"You served Mr Bezos well, now we will turn you into an Alexa box."
being turned into a servoskull is an honor when you died of unrelated causes
lmaoo
hadron disemskulling you to get a new one less so
could be worse, could be turned into a servitor
the medicae one makes me feel so bad for him lmao
"Can you take me with you? Please? im so lonely.."
He prolly deserved it
"Pieces of my mind are slipping away..."
Whoever made that servitor
you never know in the Imperium
Did a terrible job
i don't think he deserved that
Stole some bread and he got his punishment
No one deserves to be turned into a servitor
looked at a noble at wrong time
ogryn should be able to rip the medicae servitor out of the wall and carry him to extraction for bonus dockets
theyre supposed to be lobotomized and be basically unfeeling but it is not always the case
Unless they are traitors 
it has to be a balance
no i don't think that's good to do to traitors either
Of there's not enough "human" then it's just AI or something stupid
Honestly given that hes still semi mental capable he likely did do sommething bad since being able to speak and think are not really needed for his task
You need enough brain power left
But whatever tech priest made the Medicae servitor
Is uh
Doing a terrible job
also lobotomies have WILDLY varying results, human brains are not all identical
Mechanicus loophole of "its not Ai, it has human bits" and "Its not Ai its a ghost that lives in this technology" is my favorite thing about them
Tech-prankster
They are going to get executed lol
If someone finds out 
like not to get too graphic here but lobotomies were a standardized procedure in real life and they did not produce a uniform result at all
Im suree the mechanicus knows what they are doing to a much high extent than what we were doing
Given they do them so routinely
you have demons in your blood, you should do cocaine about it
It’s time to chop your leg off because it has arrow in it
well lobotomies were a lot more recent
One French Knight died from this type of surgery
Yep
I wouldn’t call it older medicine
your dentist was also your barber
No
Turns out chopping off your leg randomly has a decent chance to just kill you
It’s like
True
1940 something era lol
i remember watching an explanation of how removing an arrowhead looked like
gee i wonder why
the soviet union banned lobotomies the year after the inventor of the procedure got the nobel prize for medicine for it lol
Well it also banned genetics for some period of time
As anti-scientific
True
Every medical discovery basically has a horrific history behind it 
Most of genetics were then oppressed 
Nah , make lot of mistakes and don’t do them ever again
💀
Same thing
lmao
That’s how it works
Man I'm very excited for more content
😬
I hope we get to see more of Wolfer
honestly? me too
i still believe he specifically is not just a random captain, there has to be more to him
doctors barely managed to claw back a crumb of credibility in like the late 20th century
also true kek
“Vaccines cause autism” 💀
and then proceeded to blow it on opioids
remember when Therac burned holes through people
Not Penicillin
GW doesn’t have the balls to call a admech relic therac-25

i think there's a Well There's Your Problem episode about the therac 25
Phosphor weapons 
Phosphor nades , Serpentes
Tldr me about therac 25
Programming issue
an error caused it to shoot insane amounts of rads into people
Led to a super big dose of radiation
Therac 25 was a radiotherapy machine for treating cancer
an enduring problem in medicine
the most awkward part is the victims dying to completely unrelated things later, like a car crash
but the machine still did some horrific damage
radiation in general can be spooky, like the story of Hisashi Ouchi, bless this mans soul
shoutsout to marie curie whose notebook has a half life
his death brought many advancements, but i felt it in my soul reading and listening about it that the poor man needed to be let go
meanwhile Admech utilize troops that irradiate themselves
Vanguard moment
Makes you wonder
I don’t know how Admech Deactivate Planets after their Rad Bombardments
Is it immoral to use information derived from torturous experiments that cost innocent lives done by war criminals? Or is it good cause "at least their lives didn't go to waste"
information is information, however most of the time those atrocities don't produce any useful results
Pretty sure in some ways we found certain incubation periods from some diseases and such
there are better ways of figuring those things out
Doesn't mean it didn't happen
It's essentially a moral conundrum of
"If the thing you need is done in a bad way. But it gets you the results you need, would you still refuse the result?"
And if so, is it wrong for you to?
You arnt the one going through with the immoral acts
But, you are the recipient of the results of such
well if you're going to live under capitalism you're going to have to purchase some things from companies that do child slavery
If you go down the rabbit hole enough, everything in the world has been wrought on the backs of immorality
Antibiotic Resistance 
The inventor of Penicillin foresaw the decline in effectiveness due to evolving bacteria from over exposure
This is why I say we need to side with Papa Nurgle
He will protect us from rot and decay by gifting it to us

it lowkey makes my blood boil that some life saving medicine, like insulin, is technically cheap but is used for profit instead
They don’t

Hadron when citizen HL-1491841 complains:
"Too hot too cold too hurt too tired, all you do is complain!"
true
Speaking of corporations that are nigh dystopian, how does the Ad Mech get paid? Do they get paid at all or is it more like exposure for them and their religion?
the imperium uses money, the admech probably allocates resources according to some arcane system
They make stuff for the imperium/guard, they work/die instead of them
I see I see
i saw a lore video that each manufactorium is literally just a company town from hell
everything you need is bought right there with money only accepted in that manufactorium's zone
the workers don't get paid, the tech priests usually get paid in material resources
or permission to persue projects
it can vary a lot
Admech need the Imperium for protection + bc they see Emprah as an avatar of the Omnissiah (or something along those lines). Plus, the AdMech would rather keep....AdMeching, then fighting.
The Imperium needs the Admech for tech + knowledge.
Symbiotic, they are way stronger together than seperately
And if the Imperium lost the Admech, they'd crash and burn, If the AdMech lost the imperium, they'd suddenly be cut off from massive research areas + astronomicon
atleast thats my understanding of it
The admech would starve both of resources and food
I mean they'd def take a nasty hit to resources and food, but you can't tell me the admech don't have some fucky, 40k hydroponics farm tucked away somewhere
true
i think the food would be a bigger issue than resources tho, don't forget the admech do have their own entire planets
forge worlds etc etc
- worlds Knights hail from are almost(?) all loyal to the Mechanicus first, the Imperium second
I could imagine workers on a forge world or any member of the Ad Mech not getting payment
just like, food stamps to extract rations, allocated housing that sort of thing
Yeah I don't think the Menials on Forgeworlds are particularly happy
''Capitalism is an iniffiencent means of extracting labor from human resources''
Hold on I'm mixing it up, Admech have Tech Thralls, not menials
''Despite the never ending back-breaking service to the Mechaniucs, they still try to have some semblance of society. Adsecularis have the same hopes and desires as Imperials on other worlds do and a rare few are even defiant against their fate. However their spirits are worn thin by the drudgery of their existence at the Mechanicus' hands. There are some Adsecularis who have become so mentally broken by their life, that they become mute and numb to the world. Those that do so, will then be obediently compliant to whatever authority figure gives them orders, even if they are not given by the Mechanicus[4]. Considered a lower order than most Servitors, the ultimate fate of most Adsecularis is to end their lives recycled into Servitor components and their Augmetic implants harvested for further use.[1]''
Jesus
Usual Imperial Dankery
I guess the typical imperial state has some totalitarian oppression, religion and paranoia to spice things up a bit
No they have menials
Tech thralls are like
A Uber punishment lol
Would everyone please shut up about how mfs are "Multiversal" or "Galaxy Level" or "Massively Faster Than Light" when you know damn well we're talking about some goofy ass Demon Slayer character who'd get bodied by Tony Tony Chopper
i think this applies to 40k
whenever people ask if a space marine can beat X enemy
But can a Space Marine beat Goku?
Powerscaling is in fact cringe
or whenever people compare titans to other media mechs
like holy shit that's the most cringe thing possible
but we're nerds and we can't help comparing different media
so who wins between star wars empire and imperium
Just safer, to give the not satisfying answer of "it depends"
Just double checking as my post heresy knownledge of the IW Legion is sparse but would I be correct in assuming this is Iron Warriors heraldry.
Nope
that's an enforcer.
I don't see a reason for the IW to get involved (aside from causing a headache for the Imperium which is usually reason enough for them)
As Dess said, they're just Hive Enforcers
a proper guard regiment would probably easily change the tides of darktide
The proper Guard Regiment is currently fucking up Hive Tertium lel.
and they suck
How so?
moebian 6th, traitor guard
we kill tons of them easily




