40k-lore-chat

[barren ether]

And there are far more suits than marines. It’s just that the Tau have an astronomically lower population than the Imperium (duh lol)

[arctic talon]

Yep

Also the other thing about tau is they aren’t bad at cqb

they have pistols

Like sure they suck at melee but they have close quarters options

[barren ether]

Hey now if the God Emperor wanted you to have a laspistol, he’d have issued you one

[queen laurel]

I mean it's not gonna help me against a green skin with enough muscle to tear me limb from limb, but hey an option is an option

[arctic talon]

Real

[barren ether]

The Tau also are relatively more intelligent with their battle doctrine and tactical decisions lol

Not like the Guard are comprised of bumbling idiots, but man it’s grating sometimes

[arctic talon]

Tau combat doctrine being based on NATO

[barren ether]

Even in the Ghaunt’s ghosts attritional warfare is seen and can be a real head scratcher

[arctic talon]

GW is very unsubtle

About what the Tau are

[barren ether]

People say the Tau are space commies but then forget the Valhallan’s exist

[arctic talon]

Tau have a caste system

💀

[barren ether]

So space India

[arctic talon]

Sorta

Aesthetically they’re mostly East Asian

Combat doctrine wise they’re very much NATO

I.E drones, aerial superiority

[queen laurel]

mother fuckers even have something similar to rice

[arctic talon]

So does the imperium

[barren ether]

Lamellar type aesthetics were even used by the Byzantines so personally I think it’s silly.

[arctic talon]

🤓

[arctic talon]

True

[barren ether]

Now naming conventions? Definitely Asian

Or rather anime in my opinion

[queen laurel]

sounding peaceful yet badass at the same time type deal yeah

[arctic talon]

The emperors shadows are the most aggressively Japanese group in the setting

Yes they’re canon, they showed up in a single white dwarf

They’re a GW employees army iirc

[barren ether]

And a badass one at that

[queen laurel]

Not so subtle that one

[arctic talon]

As subtle as a bomb

I should have chosen my words better

💀

[barren ether]

Need more Asian space marine chapters that aren’t the amalgamation of asiatic cultures that are the scars

[arctic talon]

Maybe white dwarf will do something again

Idk

[queen laurel]

did you just say nuke while talking about the Japanese space marine chapter

[arctic talon]

Yes

I did not mean it

[barren ether]

Joke was as bright as 2 suns

[arctic talon]

If I had a nickel for every time I know GW made a employees marine chapter canon I’d have 3 nickels

Which isn’t a lot but it’s fun it’s happened that many times

[barren ether]

Ironically there are the unsubtly named Sensei as well

However they aren’t marines and GW has forgotten they exist

[arctic talon]

Sensei are non canon all but explicitly tbh

With how they’ve changed big E

And his uh interactions

[barren ether]

You see them in the HH 🌝

It’s just nothings been done with them

[arctic talon]

Are you talking about that tech adept who’s like distantly related to him

[barren ether]

And I am NOT talking about perpetuals. Literally the offspring of the emperor. Afaik you see one in the Outcast dead

[arctic talon]

I forgot her name

[barren ether]

No I am not

[arctic talon]

Oh

Neat

[barren ether]

However the Outcast dead is like horrendously fucked

Same book where a naked world eater punches the spine out of a fully armored Custodes

[arctic talon]

Oh yeah the funny one

[barren ether]

But you do see a couple Thunder Warriors so that’s neat

Albeit aged and barely hanging on by a thread

[arctic talon]

I wonder how closely related

[normal light]

WH40K Books are wild as I see

[arctic talon]

To the emperor you have to be

To have weird abilities

[barren ether]

Gonna be semantic and say it’s technically 30k

[normal light]

ok

Don`t change anything too much for me

[arctic talon]

Because Dalia was literally just a normal person

[echo vault]

I remember there was at least one thunder warrior that became like a gang leader or maybe km just dumb

[barren ether]

Yes

[arctic talon]

Till she got a glimpse of the dragon of mars

[barren ether]

Can’t remember his fucking name for the life of me but you are right

[arctic talon]

There’s a bounty hunter on necromunda

That’s rumored to be a marine lol

Bcs of how big he is

[barren ether]

Casual glimpse at a C’tan

[arctic talon]

Pretty much, except because of what she says about it it’s not clear if it’s even a C’tan lol

[barren ether]

Look the Void Dragon is like the daddy C’Tan of all C’Tan

[arctic talon]

It’s not the void dragon as far as we know

It could be a huge shard tho

[barren ether]

Sir it’s name is a shard of the Dragon

We can put 2 and 2 together until GW explicitly states otherwise

On top of that it’s presence on mars is theorized to influence the AdMech’s technological prowess

Considering the Necrons are THE tech faction, I think it’s a very safe bet

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[barren ether]

On top of that, there’s an excerpt where Necron ships sneakily landed on mars for whatever purpose

More than likely looking for the shard, if they didn’t already know where it is

Anyways I really enjoy the Necrons. I need more Necron books

The books we do have are like crack to me

[arctic talon]

We have 3 good ones

And 3 necron books

3 for 3 so far heh

[barren ether]

The Pariah Nexus series is also like the ultimate work of art. My beloved Salamanders get the spotlight, and we see Necrons annihilate a world

[shadow plover]

Waiting for the Fall of Cadia book to be properly released to see some more Trazyn action

[queen laurel]

illuminor Szeras is good

[barren ether]

The sound design for him is immaculate. So heavy

And he seems to be a unique breed of eccentric Necron we haven’t seen yet with his experimentation

[arctic talon]

His mini where he’s liquifying someone is great

[barren ether]

Pokéballs being thrown around left and right

[queen laurel]

he's a Cryptek

[barren ether]

Oof my bad

[normal light]

need to try out necrons (as a TTS armie)

[echo vault]

I thought he was just sucking someone's soul out

The slurpee machine at 7/11 be like

[wooden ridge]

I was wondering if the Imperium uses electromagnetic weapons, like gauss or railguns.

I know that Tau does, but it seems, that humans also had to know the technology 🤔

[arctic talon]

The mechanicus uses it in smaller forms and keeps it to themselves, it’s also used on space ships with nova cannons

Tldr it’s rare

[wooden ridge]

Thank you

It seems like Mechanicus keeps all sweet technologies to themselves and doesn't share them with the Emperium

[arctic talon]

Even if they did share it they wouldn’t be able to produce it in quantities for it to be common

Galvanic weaponry and arc weaponry is relatively rare

[queen laurel]

Of course they wouldn't they don't trust those flesh bags

[arctic talon]

Also arc weaponry tends to electrocute the user

[queen laurel]

Like in the beast, if i remember correctly the have a protocol to teleport mars just in case things don't go well

[echo vault]

Railguns are more of a votann thing they have it handheld and on vehicles

[arctic talon]

Galvanic weaponry also suffers from the issue of

Must be augmented to use to its full potential

Because you can’t steer the fancy servitor bullet without implants

[echo vault]

Speaking of servitors is it just me or is the cosmetic servitor the heretic

[arctic talon]

It is

[echo vault]

Ok I saw the resemblance like immediately

[arctic talon]

Not sure how she survived Rannick’s headshot

[echo vault]

Robot

[arctic talon]

Servitors can’t be made out of a corpse

[queen laurel]

The name is atonement servitor too

[echo vault]

They can be vat grown

[arctic talon]

Those aren’t corpses

[echo vault]

Shit I forgot

[arctic talon]

Those are actual human beings

Just with no real intelligence at that stage

You’re supposed to pop them out earlier if you want them to develop normally

[echo vault]

Uhhh

Insert anyone that has survived a gunshot to the head, although he has a fancy gun

Fancy guns in Warhammer usually do more damage

[arctic talon]

Rannick is just a good shot ig

[echo vault]

The funniest bolter variant I wish had photos since it was clearly in the Inquisitor RPG games but the bolter cane

[arctic talon]

Fancy archeotech pistol he has

[echo vault]

AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

[echo vault]

I wouldn't call it archaeotech but it's a fancy gun

Well maybe

[arctic talon]

The bullets seem exotic

At the very least

[echo vault]

I'm only thinking of archaeotech pistols from horus heresy

[arctic talon]

Archeotech guns can be funny

[echo vault]

Which were for marine praetors

[arctic talon]

There’s a revolver looking one

Skitarii get

[echo vault]

But archaeotech pistols are also for mechanicus

Yeah

[arctic talon]

And some other random varaties

[echo vault]

Maybe it's like an archaeotech revolver version thingy

Doohickey

[arctic talon]

Like the rogue trader one

With the bayonet lol

[echo vault]

I keep imagining a double barreled version of the archaeotech pistol that eidolons model has

[wooden ridge]

Yes and it's somewhat horrifying

[echo vault]

Like this but a stormbolter

[arctic talon]

The imperium really does know how to make shit guns

[echo vault]

I want that rogue trader game to have like a futuristic duck foot pistol

[arctic talon]

Would be funny

[echo vault]

Just put any Warhammer fantasy or aos weapon into rogue trader and add some mechanicus bits so they fit

Like a hochland long rifle

That's the only one I'd want to have a 40k equivalent

I know the big arquebis exists but no

[wooden ridge]

Considering that most of the words are medieval-likes with trash technology I wouldn't be surprised if there are plenty of crazy-looking weapons

[echo vault]

The leagues of votann are just dwarf lizardmen

[wooden ridge]

Honestly, I missed this part of the lore.. What happened? Since when there is The League of Votann instead of just Squat communities?

[celest dome]

Since 2014 or something ? Like they famously got Squatted. Where their whole line became unsupported.

In setting their core worlds got munched so they became much rarer

[green loom]

They got revamped a year or two ago

Now the galactic core is space dwarf territory

[wooden ridge]

Wow.. How did I miss it.. But the models look thick

[barren ether]

They got better

[celest dome]

Nah, they don't exist anymore still
There are Squats but they are rare and live on normal Hive worlds

[barren ether]

https://tenor.com/view/montypython-igotbetter-gif-5528939

[barren ether]

Squats and Votann are the same thing. The terms are exchangeable

[celest dome]

Not really

Squats are those that are not living with Votaan

Votaan are the Ai leader of the leagues

[celest dome]

Kins are Vat Born/Clones of ancient Squats

[barren ether]

Yeah if we want to use technical terms, then they are the kin. But the reality is they are literally the Squats lmao

[celest dome]

Well, still remain that the League of Votaan don't have any Core world anymore

[barren ether]

They do actually lol

[green loom]

fandom
Though

[barren ether]

Alright let’s look at lexicanum

[green loom]

Iirc the new distinction is like

Squat is what imps use

[green loom]

Kin are votaan

[barren ether]

Literally first paragraph

[green loom]

But we know there's non-leagues kin/squats in imperial space

From what I remember from the early teaser it mentioned something about them being thought dead?

[barren ether]

Well in this case we were talking the species as a whole, not examples of like yours

And in this case the Leagues are literally Squats that indeed live in the galactic core

[crisp heath]

Kin are squats, they just consider "squat" to be a slur

[barren ether]

Thank you

Necromunda for example uses the term squat as a slur

[crisp heath]

The kin on necromunda are ok being called squats because they live in the imperium and it's probably the least racist thing they deal with

[queen laurel]

also a good way to cover up their tracks, if everyone just assumes that they are normal squats they won't know they are from the kin

if the imperium finds out about the empire of the kin, the wars they will declare just to acquire those technologies

[barren ether]

The imperium does know of the Leagues

They do not know the extent of their technology and what they worship

[queen laurel]

That's why I said empire if they find out they have an entire Kingdom with forbidden technology and AI, it will become a hell of a war zone

[barren ether]

The Leagues and the Imperium are indeed at odds by and large

[barren ether]

That much is true. Considering the Leagues are as close to DAOT humanity as 40k will get, any large scale war would almost certainly turn into a bloodbath

[wooden ridge]

Don't they have females then?

[celest dome]

They have

But also clones

[wooden ridge]

If so.. Do they make no-vat kins?

[celest dome]

Possibly, don't know much more

[terse flume]

wasn't a headshot, looks like she took one in the upper shoulder

bet she wished it was a headshot, in the end

[terse flume]

which like, it would be, i mean it's basically calling out a physical characteristic in a negative way

[white solar]

So. If the game is about chaos cults.
Why nurgle?

Or why just nurgle

[spare osprey]

Sorta just makes sense in the sorta environment

Sorta

[green loom]

Danny thought up a cult and this is what we got

[celest dome]

Cause they know Nurgle

[queen laurel]

he's the most horde centered in the chaos roster

[green loom]

Also Nurglites have convenient zombie hordes

[spare osprey]

Nurgle would spread fast, disease is easier to implement than cultists. And they’re a petty broad group

[queen laurel]

he's basically perfect for the role of horde army

[celest dome]

And Nurgle/Chaos does leave the most space for further expansions

[spare osprey]

Khorne would get pretty repetitive in a horde style game.

Just “Oops! All ragers”

[queen laurel]

and his faction would probably brutalize the frontline melee classes

[spare osprey]

Yup

[green loom]

Moebians are pretty undivided tbh

[white solar]

I guess the horde mechanic would have to be the most up front thing
And a horde of actual cultists wouldn’t be on theme for 40k i dont guess

[celest dome]

Except that there are Khornate cult that are basically the same as the Scab currently

[white solar]

Idk. I was hoping to see genestealers and Khorne themed ragers

[green loom]

Well it would but why make it weird when you've got a faction built around horses of zombies?

[spare osprey]

Ye more or less

[celest dome]

GSC, I'm fully against, other Chaos Cult could happen

[green loom]

I feel like we'll see moebians paired with other cults before long

Like we'll 100% see the spires at some point

[spare osprey]

Idk tbh. I think if you just bring in the blood pact it’s just a tactical shooter at that point

[green loom]

And that's prime ground for a slaanesh cult

[spare osprey]

They’re a bonafide army

[green loom]

And also dead

[spare osprey]

There’s some dialogue

I forget the specifics of it

[white solar]

Khorn scab groups tearing a territory in the hive sounds a cool mission prospect
But it would be more linear like a cod mission rather than a horde game

[spare osprey]

But I think it’s the vet asking about the lost city on tertium

And they say some things are best left unanswered

[green loom]

All the classes ask about it

[spare osprey]

So that’s a possible route

[green loom]

Usually morrow answers

[celest dome]

Not saying that we would see Blood Pact, but it does mean that you have space between Full Ragers or Normal army

[green loom]

"Never you mind, not good to be asking questions like that"

Or Zola.

"That information is classified, and for good reason"

[spare osprey]

I got Zola

[white solar]

Which mutant elite has the dangling tongue?

[spare osprey]

Oh 100%

I think it’s just a bit more on the rare side than anything we see in darktide

[celest dome]

I made a Khornate faction concept a while ago
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/khornate-faction-idea-clotters-enforcer-cult/82857

Basically it's Khornate faction/cultist that come from the local Penal system, which we would have joined had the Inquisition not highjacked us

[white solar]

Someone did make a point earlier.
It would be more of a tactical shooter for khorne just reskinning the scabs. Horde mechanic wouldnt make much sense unless the enemies were sprinting at you
It least the elite count would be higher
And imagine the sheer number of hounds

[celest dome]

Not really, like Nurgle and even Undivided has Traitor Guard groups where they act very much like normal Imperial Guards, and Khorne does have groups that act even more like hordes than here

[white solar]

O

[celest dome]

Sons of Slaughter, Kith and plenty of unnamed ones would be appropriate here

[celest dome]

Even Tzeentchian Cults could have an easy ways to make Poxwalker level units

[crystal forum]

it would be a doom shooter

and i'd be all here for it

[celest dome]

Boltgun is a Doom shooter and use some Nurgle units, like the origin of units don't specifies the types of game. Except certain cases

[wooden ridge]

I thought that Khorne is the most melee-oriented god

[thick cedar]

So with bio-lightning not drawing upon the warp, is it inherently "safer" than normal lightning casting?

[arctic talon]

It is still drawing upon the warp, just in a safer manner, smite is generally considered low risk

[arctic talon]

He’s just general violence and murder based

[thick cedar]

so is us not overloading from smite just a clever way to portray that?

[arctic talon]

Melee is much more violent then a gun so his followers trend to that

[arctic talon]

Most likely?

[keen stratus]

what are the pros of worshipping tzeetnch?

[arctic talon]

Knowledge, sorcery

[green loom]

Vast arcane knowledge and esoteric power

[arctic talon]

Are the big ones

Tzeentch followers can also either have insanely good “luck”

Or insanely awful “luck”

[keen stratus]

yeah i know

the two headed chicken

was an experimetn of tzeentch to try to see the future right?

[arctic talon]

Kairos?

[green loom]

You also come with an extra healthy dose of paranoia, an urge to overcomplicate everything, and a knife hand incredibly prone to backstabbing

[arctic talon]

That was tzeentch being bored

[keen stratus]

dont know its name

[arctic talon]

The two headed lord of change

[green loom]

Kairos was thrown into the well of eternity since Tzeentch got curious

[keen stratus]

thats so relatable

[green loom]

What came back out may not have been Kairos

[arctic talon]

Multiple lords of change got thrown in

And kairos is the only one that came back out

[keen stratus]

and what is the well of eternity?

[green loom]

We dunno

Some eldritch creepy thing

[keen stratus]

well

[arctic talon]

In fantasy it’s a literal giant lake of water

In the realms of chaos

In 40K it’s some weird thingy

[keen stratus]

may consider changing to tzeentch

[arctic talon]

That’s a big hole into the deep warp

[keen stratus]

counter point

slaaneshussy

[green loom]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/978617811150725161/1160973562946011258/image.png?ex=65369be3&is=652426e3&hm=ee4221769c421fbe7aeb4dc8cdb5ca192569b4d62eb38ee9fe30dca2b8470f7f&

You know it

[keen stratus]

ahrright i forgot it was you

the slaanesh guy

[green loom]

[crystal forum]

the artist

[green loom]

Maybe I should make her an artist...

[normal light]

AAAH , What`s the topic?

[keen stratus]

so youre telling everyone youre virgin as fuck

[arctic niche]

Daemonculaba

We need more Chaos Space Marines, get in the funky flesh sac.

[keen stratus]

oh no please

[normal light]

Even it`s to much for me

I will just continue making Plague Marines as a normal Astartes Chapter

[keen stratus]

the codex astartes is overrated

tzun tsu said better shit

[normal light]

Tzun Tzu suggested Daemonculaba?

[keen stratus]

no, wait,

the codex astartes suggested that?

wasnt that a chaos thing

[celest dome]

I don't think the Codex Astartes suggested that, and I hope Guilliman ever tought about it

[normal light]

I AM A FOLLOWER WHAT DO YOU MEAN?

[green loom]

Mid

Should introduce you to Gambol

[keen stratus]

well im a slaanesh follower, and for some reason i dont have an emoji for that

[normal light]

That is fine , you don`t have to , Nurgliets are the poster boys of this game

[keen stratus]

but i want to

this nurgle based enemies only

are daemonophobic

[normal light]

Slaanesh Based Posters would have +18 in the most child friendly form

So nope

[keen stratus]

i want to see genderly amboigous daemons

[storm jungle]

40k fans mentioning anything but the Daemonculaba challenge: impossible

[keen stratus]

what is that

[green loom]

They'll yap about the daemonculaba but fall apart at the mention of femboys

[keen stratus]

i love femboys

we have a lot of those in slaanesh cults

[green loom]

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/ssleho/the_bookkeepers_skull_shows_that_even_childrens/

[normal light]

That`s why you should be destroyed

[keen stratus]

come here and fuck me yourself you coward

[normal light]

Throws Blight grenade

HERE HAVE ULTRASPACE AIDS

[keen stratus]

right, khorne was the k*nky one, he likes it rough

[normal light]

Die already Throws another Blight grenade

[keen stratus]

harder daddy

[normal light]

Leaves on a dropship

[spare osprey]

Fuckin hell

[green loom]

[normal light]

Imperium of man , the best thing in the galaxy!

[spare osprey]

I uh

Think I’ll stick to being a fallen

[keen stratus]

hmppp, man

[normal light]

• HELP ME , INQUSITON DISCOVERED MY POSITION AND THEY ARE HOLDING ME....

[keen stratus]

sexy

[normal light]

And there is this horny guy...

[keen stratus]

im not witht the imperium of man

they're killjoys

im with she who thirsts

where party never ends

[arctic niche]

Incorrect, they are using you as a lure. If the Inquisition wanted you silent, you wouldn't be speaking

[arctic niche]

But muh interex

[normal light]

You will never see him again

[forest orbit]

I mean they were still a better alternative than whatever the shithole the Imperium was and is now

[arctic niche]

Who?

[normal light]

🦀

[arctic niche]

But chaos isn't real

[normal light]

He was shot on dead for Heresy

[arctic niche]

Tell me, who told you Chaos was real?

I must inform them they are incorrect

[arctic talon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/735819155608961044/1055937848886431824/bruh.gif

[normal light]

- You , are thinking to much citizen

[storm jungle]

The fuck is happening in here

[arctic talon]

Idk

[normal light]

I don`t know

[storm jungle]

did that one guy go on a horny tangent again

nvm he did the moment I left earlier 💀

[normal light]

You are talking about Boga Fe?

[arctic niche]

Wasn't there one incident where multiple intelligence agencies stung each other in overlapping sting operations

3 inquisitors stinging each other in their operations

[normal light]

What are you talking about?

Oh...

It`s [CLASSIFIED]

[arctic niche]

Dorn at the Siege of Terra trying to keep 2 idiots and an old man from ruining all of his plans in defending the Imperial Palace.

[storm jungle]

[spare osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/is-this-fun-for-you-bonnie-plunkett-allison-janney-mom-do-you-enjoy-this-gif-19776664

[storm jungle]

Its Horus Heresy so automatically no

[arctic niche]

There are no wolves on Fenris.

[normal light]

Only furries

[spare osprey]

there are no people on cthonia

https://tenor.com/view/death-star-gif-14758637425007366681

[storm jungle]

damn too soon

Lion really fucked that planet up though

[arctic niche]

Which is bizarre because the Imperium still deploys Cthonian regiments in M41, 10,000 years after Cthonia's destruction

[forest orbit]

What cthonian regiment

[arctic niche]

Cthonian 1st Armoured, Cthonian 2nd Armoured, Cthonian 26th Armoured Cavalry Squadron

[storm jungle]

Thats literally just the writers re-using the word Cthonia

it has nothing to do with Horus' world.

Same with how the Votann Cthonian Berserkers don't have anything to do with it as a random example, its just a "cool greek word" they like to re-use

[celest dome]

Cthonian mean underground right ?

[storm jungle]

Its Cthonic* technically speaking

but yeah its basically related to the underworld/hell, so it sounds "cool" as a regiment name or for any random 40k militarum thing since they like using greek stuff a lot.

[celest dome]

Right. Forgot that 40k love to butcher languages

[normal light]

Creating an Valhallian regiment

[normal light]

Regimental name: Separate Mechanised Regiment something else

[spare osprey]

they elaborated on some of the DA involvement in the recent campaign book

it's fuckin brutal

[storm jungle]

Its fucking hilarious

[spare osprey]

Sons of horus fighters meet DA dropships in orbit, Raven guard ships come to help, DA start killing both the RG and SoH

[storm jungle]

especially since its literally the writers realising theres zero lore on what happened to some of the traitor homeworlds post-heresy

"Lets just make the DA/Lion nuke everyone"

"Yeah why not sure"

[spare osprey]

mhm

[storm jungle]

also usual Heresy Raven Guard L

[spare osprey]

they even went after Nuceria

fucking Nuceria

a planet angron had already purged

[storm jungle]

I mean

better safe than sorry

[spare osprey]

that was legit their mentality tho

why bother with the ground fight

when i can just

boop

https://tenor.com/view/operation-teapot-nuke-nuclear-explosion-nuclear-test-nuclear-footage-gif-15618232923822161090

[storm jungle]

he was on a twitch stream speedrun

[spare osprey]

there's like a snippet of lore that says Marduk sedras blew up an entire imperial world just cause he couldn't be bothered to spend the time fighting a company of night lords hidden there

[storm jungle]

most realistic decision in warhammer

[spare osprey]

like they just went full psycho

hell it even got non Fallen members of the 1st to think lion was going crazy

big one is Holguin, leader of the deathwing

dude kept begging and begging they go back to caliban, get luther and everyone else, then book it to terra

Lion just said "nah"

he pretty much called lion a child

[storm jungle]

sensible decision

[spare osprey]

The Lion turned to Holguin.
‘Do you mean to fight me, Hol?’
Holguin shook his head, backing away, but it was not the invitation that he refuted – it was the primarch.
‘If the Emperor had only warned us. If you and Sar Luther could only have settled your differences on Sarosh like men, instead of banishing your most loyal Knight and forbidding that his name be spoken. How much of this nightmare might have been avoided if there was but one amongst us who could speak one word to another that was true?’
With that, the Deathbringer turned and walked away.
He did not look back.

[storm jungle]

[spare osprey]

it's a pretty good novella

has the death of Mortarions homeworld aswell

whole scene with the dark angel fleet master bursting out in laughter at the sight

briefly clapping

[void yew]

what is the lore reason for my zealot having access to a chainsword so early

[spare osprey]

found it off a corpse

or someone else did and sold it to em

[void yew]

honestly the best answer

[spare osprey]

whole thing is wild

ends with the DA leaving a bunch of robots on cthonia to defend the bombs they set while they get off world

[storm jungle]

Chainswords are just normal weapons

anyone can have them

[storm jungle]

Also lmao

[spare osprey]

all the while literal thousands of daemons pour out of the planet itself

[void yew]

I was under the impression they were a sign of rank from Dark Crusade

[spare osprey]

so the last few minutes of cthonia was literally just giant robots fighting daemons

[storm jungle]

Nope

dont look at DoW for lore

[void yew]

Ok thank you 🙏

[spare osprey]

can't forget the point where a DA cruiser one shots a warmaster titan

[storm jungle]

love warhammer

[spare osprey]

With little regard for the catastrophic
damage wrought to Cthonia, nearby fortifications and
the thousands of warriors both loyal and traitor alike
that fought at the titan’s feet, the orbiting dreadnought
let loose its macro-cannon and shrouded the warring
titan with smoke and flame. The shock waves from the
bombardment’s impact were felt as far away as Traitor’s
Gate and the dust thrown up took hours to clear, but
when it did it revealed only ruin.

Of the Imperus Nox all that remained was a single leg, still
upright amid the dust clouds and now a fortress for the
surviving infantry that fought among the corpses of the
titans, and the brave Cockatrices were little more than
unidentifiable.

course the imperial fist owners of the Imperus Nox were pissed off about that

so in turn they launched a full salvo at the ship

did nothin

The impact scarred the sky with fire as it sundered the void shields of the dreadnought, but left no mark on its ancient armour plating. The Dark Angels flagship did not even deign to return the attack, merely waiting as the flight of thunderhawks below bore down upon the Terminal Atlas as if deeming the Imperial Fists to be no threat.

such a fun time

[green loom]

Violence

[spare osprey]

just straight up genocide

and in the middle of the whole thing

Marduk just stops to collect a new bit for his sword

Old enough to remember when the Emperor first
returned to Cthonia, almost two hundred years before,
Sedras looked once more upon the world with an air of
indifference. To him it was but one more obstacle his lord
had ordered him to remove, and he paused to collect a
spar from the broken fortifications of the Terminal Atlas
that would later be added to his ever-growing blade.

https://tenor.com/view/its-just-comedy-talent-ioneemno-donttakeitpersonal-personal-gif-12842021

[remote widget]

Wait.. so the HH imperium knew about the horrors of the warp, combating its monstrosities, and that it could twist and possess, yet samael was such a shock and horror to loken that horus had to give him "snuggles and gaslight" time?

I keep rereading the start of the hh as I keep struggling to get it to stick

[arctic talon]

No, the HH imperium actively hid the truth of the warp

[remote widget]

So why did loken just admit to knowing, being trained on, and experiencing these first hand?

[arctic talon]

[storm jungle]

Bad Writing.

[desert dust]

It's just a bit of inconsistency tbh.
Hh was ment to be 3 books

[spare osprey]

a few marines did know about it.

very few

but that was all like

really really early great crusade dudes

and i got no clue when loken got recruited

[desert dust]

He was a og terran and over 200 from memory because that's how long the GC had been going

[spare osprey]

then yeah he coulda known about the whole thing

was a big battle

ended in the DA having to shut down their recently instated pysker groups

just with how bad it was

was the first time space marines fought daemons

[trail sluice]

So, how would a space marine react to seeing holovids of a full Auric Damnation Maelstrom run with zero deaths?

[desert dust]

Probably think they where blessed by the emperor

Thing is most people don't survive been near any of that nurgel gas and fluids with out some kinda blessing

[arctic niche]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Cthonian_Regiments You're wrong, I'm right, LALALALA I CANT HEAR YOU LALALALA MY SPACE DOG BARBARIANS ARE STILL ALIVE LALALALA

They even got the page numbers cited in the sources

That's when you know they got the serious pants on

[rose thorn]

i was tlaking wiht my friend about what animal i can use to repersent my dynasty

and he said rat

and iw as like 'nah'

but then

holy fuck a rat is perfect

[arctic niche]

@storm jungle But yea it's kinda like how a fuck ton, and I mean a good percentile, of Cadian Guard Regiments were lost on Cadia after the planet broke. The fact that Cadia Guard Regiments had off-world out-of-system recruitment posts means Cthonia likely had other planets or a tradition of keeping the name to maintain real numbers post-planet destruction like Cadia.

[rose thorn]

this will be the base for my rogue trader lmao

[arctic niche]

Also they might have a New Cthonia

There is a New Cadia

[storm jungle]

Naw this is just outdated.

[arctic niche]

Generic Imperial Noble No. 5

[storm jungle]

Cthonia is confirmed to have nuked to have no survivors with the new HH update.

[arctic niche]

That's not an insult

[rose thorn]

that is a vampire thank you very much

[arctic niche]

That's just gothic for you

[rose thorn]

well my noble isnt

i mean

rogue trader

[storm jungle]

to be fair

rat fur is at least original

also as usual AoS models slap

[rose thorn]

frr

problem is, the head is pre attached

[storm jungle]

aw fuck

[rose thorn]

pros, high heals

[storm jungle]

[rose thorn]

WHAT IS THIS WHACK ASS RPUE

[storm jungle]

god i forgot the robe has rat tails

[arctic niche]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Imperial_Armour_Volume_One_-_Imperial_Guard_and_Imperial_Navy da good book of dakka dakka will remain canon til geedubs sends the prophet James Workshop to tell us so.

[rose thorn]

yea i might rmeove them

[storm jungle]

yeah they are a bit too extra

[rose thorn]

i need to cut up the hair at least

i liek the sword

its extra enough to be cool

[storm jungle]

and slap some small skull bits somewhere and its pretty much done

[rose thorn]

yee maybe a holster

maybe not even

[arctic niche]

It's still pretty rad to think the Arch-Traitor homeworld has Imperial loyalists kicking ass post-10,000 years heresy

[storm jungle]

I mean not really because they aren't a part of the main lore anymore.

[arctic niche]

Ya gotta admit that's a slap to chaos

[storm jungle]

literally nobody remembers Cthonia's origin point or existence and neither does the guard regiments tho is the thing.

[arctic niche]

Oh yea! She's the rat tail lady

[storm jungle]

since almost every information about the traitor primarchs was expunged and censured.

[rose thorn]

the prince of rats is a dude

[arctic niche]

I remember her rumor engine

Oh, that's a dude.. huh

[storm jungle]

Oh yeah also before i forget

[rose thorn]

BELOVED

[storm jungle]

look at Janus Draik for some inspiration too

[arctic niche]

The peak male body

Beloved by all

[rose thorn]

im 90% sure in the lroe the corpse on back is a fashion trend

its fucking EVERYWHERE in the imperium

[storm jungle]

Pretty much same as IRL

fur mantles are a good status symbol

[rose thorn]

OH that

makes more sense

then what i thought

[storm jungle]

yeee

[arctic niche]

Dude built like that Poacher guy from Spiderman comics

[storm jungle]

the artists sometimes add the skull/head of the animal it belongs to so it looks cooler

Lmao Kraven but Civilized

[rose thorn]

OH ITS ALIVE

whoOPs

[arctic niche]

He got that Kraven energy

[storm jungle]

yeah hes a nice gentleman with pets

god

his yee yee ass jacket

I entirely forgot the goofy lion face

💀

[arctic niche]

The lion face jacket stays on.

[rose thorn]

didnt he eat one of his clones?

[storm jungle]

bro

this is Marvel

every character has done some 40k tier atrocity at some point

[rose thorn]

lMAO

[storm jungle]

like that one occassion where Spiderman' corpse was eaten by spiders

and then those spiders retained his memory

and formed into an actual Spider-Man

💀

[arctic niche]

turn slave corpses into protein bars?

[rose thorn]

i was about to say "well the comics not the movies-"

[storm jungle]

KEK

[storm jungle]

Honestly worse stuff has been done

Marvel Zombies Moment

[rose thorn]

imma be honest

marvel zombies wasnt as good

[storm jungle]

it wasnt

[rose thorn]

as people said it was

[winter vessel]

The old comic series?

[storm jungle]

it was basically jumping onto the mid 2000's zombie trend

[rose thorn]

i read it and i got so fucking sick of it

[storm jungle]

40k is also guilty of this

[arctic niche]

Turn people into daemonically possessed Chaos Space Marine breeding pods?

[storm jungle]

Almost

[arctic niche]

Fucking when?

[storm jungle]

I'll never forget sandman shoving himself into Spiderman's stomach and blowing him up from the inside though

[storm jungle]

Thats the thing its fucking everywhere

[rose thorn]

"guys theres zombies on this planet, what kind of thing could cause this!"
-inquisitor book 204

[arctic niche]

Eh...

[storm jungle]

like Marvel has done some of the sickest shit

for no reason at all

[arctic niche]

That's not really body horror

[storm jungle]

Well yeah its not

[rose thorn]

for some reason marvel's scifi stories i usually find really good

[arctic niche]

Daemonculaba is body horror

[storm jungle]

Yeah but its really bland

and 40k fans never stfu about it

[rose thorn]

daemonculaba is a fetish

[storm jungle]

at this point id agree

[arctic niche]

Oh?

[storm jungle]

anyone that thinks the Daemonculaba is horrible hasn't read stuff like the first Deathwatch novel

[rose thorn]

tahts on my list! but i have a rule to read only 1 space marine book every 3 months

[storm jungle]

good protocol

[rose thorn]

it was corax last time

which was worth it

corax is a pretty alright book

[arctic niche]

The Grey Knights Omnibus has a daemon world where there's forests of screaming flesh trees, lakes and soil that seap blood and moans, and Greater daemons who emerge from any and every surface should the need to defend itself arise.

And that's the prologue

[storm jungle]

Yeah but thats really lame too

like daemonic flesh-wall horror stuff is something where once you've seen it you've seen em all

its really not that effective when you are like a 11 year long 40k fan like me 💀

[rose thorn]

when the fuck was the last time 40k scared me uhh

[storm jungle]

I think mine was recently with that one white scar book where a void station crew gets digested by tyranids

[arctic niche]

Samus trying to be creepy: get's his ass whooped 5 pages later

[rose thorn]

gloom spite, lords of scilence,

[arctic niche]

Samus is here!
The local Astartes: "no he ain't"

[rose thorn]

OH fuckinnnn, that one short story

watcher in the rain?

i mean audio drama

[storm jungle]

oh THAT is a good one

[rose thorn]

yee

[storm jungle]

40k does horror well when its "mundane"

[rose thorn]

its been fuckin years since i listened to it

well

year and a half

imma maybe put it on this halloweenish

time

[arctic niche]

The one time 40k had me spooked was the first Caiphus Cain novel where Jurgen got separated from Cain fighting a Pure strain horde, I was like "NOOOOO THEY JUST KILLED JURGEN!"

[storm jungle]

then he survives

again

and again

and again

and again

I was the same once

[arctic niche]

Cause he's a good loyal son of the emperor

Jurgen my boy

[storm jungle]

Hes hiding that plot armor under that thick ass trenchcoat

[arctic niche]

If Jurgen die, I cry

[rose thorn]

also fire made flesh distrubed me a bit when they first revealed the big bad

made me hate cawdor tho

so

[storm jungle]

I mean

they are religious extremist sexist hobos

so not that hard to do

[rose thorn]

yea

[storm jungle]

[rose thorn]

what was uhh,, spoilers ahgain?

[arctic niche]

The Imperial cult?

[storm jungle]

nah House Cawdor

[rose thorn]

[[this?]]

no

[arctic niche]

Who?

[rose thorn]

i feel old looking at my keyboard

[storm jungle]

do you know anything about Necromunda

[arctic niche]

Oh those guys

[rose thorn]

aka the best setting

||THIS||

[arctic niche]

The fire witch hunters

[winter vessel]

Ik there’s a whole house of women called House Escher

[rose thorn]

thats the redemptionists

[storm jungle]

yeah because they are based

[rose thorn]

yee

they are popular for a reason

[storm jungle]

also their men are braindead infertile losers so

[winter vessel]

They remind me of a sorority group, but not cringe

[rose thorn]

and the goliaths!

laughs in delaque

[storm jungle]

Their amazonian/aztec-punk aesthetic helps

[rose thorn]

dont forget their death cult! they have one of thsoe

the fuckin uhh

[storm jungle]

Death Maidens

[winter vessel]

Honestly they’re the only thing Ik about necromunda. The other houses I forgot their names

[rose thorn]

yeee

[storm jungle]

yeah Escher are old school

one of the first few popular gangs

been around forever

[rose thorn]

DO NOT LOOK UP THEIR OLD ART

REPEAT

its

old hammer for sure!

[storm jungle]

Its not THAT bad

[rose thorn]

yeah but the futurama boob spikes

is really terrible

[storm jungle]

lmaooo

Im very sure

that was just for Mad Donna

💀

[rose thorn]

LmaO

[storm jungle]

GET IT

[winter vessel]

rim shot

[storm jungle]

😩

also found my Escher commission from a few months ago oof

time flies

[rose thorn]

idk if i wanan make my rogue traders venators or cold trader delegation

[rose thorn]

thats really good!

[storm jungle]

thanks!

[rose thorn]

also thats the easiest kitbash ever

for esher

/pos

[storm jungle]

[storm jungle]

also cold trader

best business

[rose thorn]

frr

the rat thing is making me rethink thier lore

originally i was htinking a house that likes xeno shit getting smahed by ordo xeno

and my character wants to return to xeno shit

to now bieng maybe liek

a stellar ass dynasty that ate shit so hard

they are cold traders

[storm jungle]

Honestly sounds good enough

especially as a fall from grace setup

because people got no idea how much xenotech rogue traders smuggle around for clients

[rose thorn]

Lol

[storm jungle]

Darktide literally has Hadron scold Hallowette for trading with aliens

[rose thorn]

[storm jungle]

so it works i think

[rose thorn]

i wanna include a xeno in my gnag but im nto sure how with out it like

'why does your eldar have a 5+ shooting?'

[storm jungle]

lmao

[rose thorn]

i was gonna make my wyrd bosion a navigator

navigators my beloved

i love navitgators so much

i know their gene techs wont allow me to love a navigator

[storm jungle]

Yeah unless you want them to get shunned and disowned forever 💀

[rose thorn]

one day i walk in at the wrong time and i get fucking labotmized by the eye

[rose thorn]

id expect they would kill them and harvest their genetic material for the genesmiths

GOD I LOVE NAVIGATORS its so horrible and poltiical

[storm jungle]

the severity of the punishment depends on the dynasty usually

but most would do that

[rose thorn]

only recently the genesmiths have stated that incest is no longer optimal for navigator production

according to the rites of passage

i cant find the quote but its like

'optimal navigator success rates are most achievable by cross house breeding'

[storm jungle]

I really do love how the navigator incest lore has stuck around for 30 years tbh

[rose thorn]

FR

[storm jungle]

also yeah like

literally the point of a dynasty

lol

[rose thorn]

also the fact the living incest era navigators live in vaults under the palace

in 'an isolated paradise'

idk how to feel about that

[storm jungle]

yeah like they do 100% get pampered and shit since their role the more they get older/isolated is extremely important.

but you also basically become Baron Harkonnen but fatter and more mutated

so you know 💀

[rose thorn]

yea they are apparently allowed to do waht ever thef uck they want

lmao

is Meravis a good dynasty name?

actually

its stupid

time to spend 4 hours thinking of a better name

i think ill replace the hand with a hand holding a sling pistol? the sword is fine i doubt i will be wysiwug about it

[storm jungle]

Open the lexi for Navigator dynasties and make some cool sounding shit up.

Sky is the limit when it comes to inspiration

[rose thorn]

i mean rogue trader dynasty

thank you Gw for having a total of 3 words for a group of people

ight lex

only literlaly huss

us a trader house name

lee
lo pan

winterscale is a good one im not gonna make fun of that one

[storm jungle]

yep like i said anything works

[storm jungle]

[rose thorn]

what great naming

Murdus?

mur means mosue

mouse*

because 40k is oh so subtle why cant i?

[storm jungle]

go for it lmao

sounds latin enough

[rose thorn]

i need the rogue t rader ost so bad

im trying not to spend 100 dolalrs on teh digital pack

literally the most excited i have ever been for a game

litearlly if a developer just asked nicely i woudl end up buying it

and then i woudl buy the box later

[storm jungle]

same but alas

[rose thorn]

100 usd

;~;

[storm jungle]

[rose thorn]

the devleoper pack is the fucking youtuber pack

and it jurts

also the exclusive cosmetic stuff is probably inside the games code that can be pulled out with a silly straw

[storm jungle]

yep that too

im actually curious so gonna peek at that tomorrow

[rose thorn]

rewatching all the trailers and stuff

theres so much old lore, rogue trader, and necromunda sutff its nutty

[serene fossil]

would tech priest be more closely related to adeptus mechanicus worshiping zealots or psykers?

[light harbor]

Feral ork gang

[arctic talon]

Adeptus mechanicus zealots, the admech is an organization that explicitly excludes psykers

You won’t find a psyker inducted into the priesthood

[arctic talon]

It’s the sigil of malcador

Or rather that’s where it grew from

Nowadays it’s used by the ecclisarchy, inquisition and a few other organizations

With variations

The I generally stands for "Imperium"

but yeah it does not stand for inqusition lol

this is the symbol the Astra Telepathica uses for example

Arbites have a very unsubtle one lol

[vast heart]

I'm so mixed on majorkill, on one hand he knows his shit and I wanna support fellow Australian creators, but my god its so unpleasant to get sucker punched with some edgy bad touch uncle joke every 6 seconds without fail

[solid valley]

so does lady alice work with / for brahms
asking cause melk has dialogue stating she isnt part of the warband
and in the current patch there is alot of on ship dialogue about her trading with xenos and having ships with unmarked cargo dock on the ship

[celest dome]

Hallowette? She is part of Brahms Rogue Trader organisation

[arctic talon]

tbh I wonder what Brahms has in terms of muscle on board the Mourningstar

[celest dome]

In theory she would have her own Guards regiment. Or similar.
Which we don't see cause we are in the Inquisitorial suite.
I do still wonder if Brunt and Hadron are attached to Brahms or Grendyl

[arctic talon]

Hadron seems to work with Grendyl

or at the very least Rannick

[celest dome]

Yeahs but I don't know what rank she could have. Like Melk is a Throne Agent. And Morrow is a Prime

But Hadron that's more difficult

[arctic talon]

She's most likely an Artisan or Fabricator tech priest, she most likely doesn't hold a true rank inside the Warband/Grendyl's retinue like the other members

She has no real path up in terms of her position is more so what I mean

she seems to be in charge of all the Tech priests and Tech adepts in the Inqusitions little area at the very least

[celest dome]

But are those attached to Grendyl or to the ship itself that'd what I mean

[arctic talon]

Oh

the tech priests? 0 fucking clue

Hadron seems to be related directly to Grendyl

[balmy dome]

im new to the Warhammer universe . watched a few video's on some lore. I was wondering did the Emperor want to be kept alive to rule?

[arctic talon]

Yes

Him getting turned into a vegetable

Was not part of his plan

[queen laurel]

At least he is somehow still sustained by worship of people so that's something

[normal light]

I think he`s mostly sustained by 1000 souls being fed to him everyday

[balmy dome]

lol, thank you wolf. i will look into some more videos on him. so his about 10k years old?

[celest dome]

Maybe even more

[queen laurel]

that and people praying to him basically gives him more power remember this is warhammer faith and belief in this setting giving you superpowers is not uncommon

[celest dome]

He was born before our time. In Anatolia

[arctic talon]

He predates the writing of the Bible

[queen laurel]

I mean for fuck sakes ****** ******* saints exist

[arctic talon]

Since the Tower of Babel was real in 40K

And he uh

Slaughtered everyone there

But he’s really fucking old

[normal light]

Emperor is just mega boomer , that`s all

[balmy dome]

lol, the lore is crazy and interesting. thank you all for the info

[queen laurel]

if you think these are crazy

[arctic talon]

But his birthplace is around modern day turkey and he’s Anatolian

As far as we know

[queen laurel]

Gets deeper my guy

[arctic talon]

Maybe he’s lying out his ass

[balmy dome]

oh i bet it does

[normal light]

NO DON`T SEND HIN INTO BOOK REALM

[arctic talon]

But he seems to be truthful about his place of origin

[queen laurel]

the Indoctrination begins

[normal light]

[arctic talon]

[normal light]

Then He should start with Imperial Creed

[arctic talon]

Gaunts ghost is 90% burly muscled men beating each other up

You can take that how you will

[solid valley]

there is dialogue between Masozi and Hallowette where Masozi says Hadron is refusing to repair the storm raptor, and hallowette replies she can get a more agreeable techpriest to handle it

[arctic talon]

There’s also a dialogue where Hadron tells Masozi to stop repairing the storm raptor on her own lol

[normal light]

Who is Masozi?

[solid valley]

pilot lady

[arctic talon]

The lady who drops us off and picks us up

Mostly

[normal light]

Oh forgot about her

[arctic talon]

There’s some new voicelines

And they’re fun

[normal light]

I didn`t pay enough attention to them , usually I just cut down poxwalkers

[solid valley]

just got one about the ammo for auric level missions going missing and morrow accusing hallowette lol

[arctic talon]

LOL

[solid valley]

so thats why we need to keep getting more

[arctic talon]

hallowete is absolutely stealing from the warbands supplies lol

Hell for the lifter mission she mentions stealing an entire Lemen Russ lol

Wonder what she does for Brahms

[shadow plover]

Speaking of dialogue, I had a new one two days ago about the time frame we've spent on Atoma. Ogryn asked how long we've been here and the vet was like "does Melk know your name?", which the Ogryn thought not to be likely. From this the vet explained then probably less than 3 months because Melk doesn't bother learning it otherwise and most reject die before that

[solid valley]

i wonder if we will personally meet brahms cause our characters have dialogue as if they have met her but she hasnt been in any cutscenes yet

[celest dome]

She is a Dealer no ? Basically act as the traders of Rogue Traders while they are occupied

[celest dome]

She is actually in the opening cutscene

[arctic talon]

Ngl I’d assume our character has seen Brahms before

But we have no reason to like interact

[normal light]

Your master helps Inquisition , it`s time to steal their equipment and sell it

[celest dome]

There are datamines voice lines hooks for proximity based voice lines for Brahms. So at some point I expect her to appear in the Ship

[arctic talon]

Also the judge seems to have picked up flagallent iron lol

[arctic talon]

Oh where can I find a list of these

[celest dome]

Your master help the Inquisition due to blackmail. You and your master know that the Inquisitor doesn't really care for its people...

[solid valley]

they said there was an event planned for the anniversary right?
i hope it adds some cool stuff cause the missions the last event add where both great and the interactions between melk and hallowette where really good

[celest dome]

https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code/blob/master/dialogues/generated/conversations_hub_shipmistress_a.lua

[normal light]

Nuh , We don`t need to know this information

[celest dome]

Don't think they have said anything. In theory they might also do one for Halloween. Though I don't know the name they use in 40k

Rogue Traders are on the same level as Inquisitors

[arctic talon]

Thanks

[solid valley]

ye dont they have like a warrant from the emperor that effectively makes them above the law?

[arctic talon]

Technically

[celest dome]

Basically. Accusing a Rogue Trader is very difficult. Just like accusing an Inquisitor

[arctic talon]

Usual thing of that only applies as well as you can back it up

Usually with force

[celest dome]

Or relations/influence

Same thing for Inquisitor

[arctic talon]

In theory limitless power

In practice the size of your gun, reputation and relationships matters

[solid valley]

i like the new lines where melk talks about our performance reviews being shit
and morrow justs say "they are still alive? the rest dont matter"

[arctic talon]

Hey we make it through Auric missions

[solid valley]

morrow really seems like the only higher up who gives a shit about us
which is ironic given zola would be fucking dead without us

[arctic talon]

Zola seems indifferent, Morrow cares about us sorta, Melk and Hadron hate us lol

Hadron has talked about executing us on 3 separate occasions

[solid valley]

there is a line at the end of i think the investigate mission where morrow tells masozi to hurry up and land cause we are gonna die

[arctic talon]

Hadron also seems to start liking you a tiny bit at level 30

Mostly because of some of the shrine lines

[celest dome]

Melk and Hadron actually have personalities dependent interaction. Certain of them they like the other they dont

[solid valley]

melk calls me a statistic

[queen laurel]

What character do you use

[arctic talon]

Holy shit lol

[solid valley]

cadian vet

[arctic talon]

What character + personality

Melk is rude to my zealot but has never said anything like that lmao

[queen laurel]

i use a brawler ogryn and he's very friendly

[arctic talon]

I’m not sure if this is new but Hadron says “Go, we both know you’ll be back” sometimes when you exit the shrine now

[celest dome]

In the thing I sent you look at the line 50+ those are the personalities array.

[arctic talon]

Lol

[green loom]

Per fall of cadia
There were considerably more cadians off world than on Cadia itself

[green loom]

These are older imperial armour books
And also, you can tell they weren't really thinking about them since if you actually check the regiments, one is noted as being mislabeled as a regiment from "Kython", so they're just flinging names

[green loom]

Just like me fr

[green loom]

He does not, in fact, "know his shit"
He does like, barely any more research than AR, maybe reads books here and there, but it's ultimately all just for entertainment
Him being a macho confrontational douche when he sees potential for viral drama doesn't help

[vast heart]

Man it's a bad time to realize 2000pts into building my army that this is the exact aesthetic I want for my thousand sons, guess who's going broke on Seraphon kits this Christmas kids

[urban spire]

rogue traders are allowed to trade with xenos, it's part of their warrant of trade, the rules of which were written when empra was still alive

he was a lot more tolerant about that sort of thing

[crisp heath]

I mean during the Great Crusade pretty much every important guy in the Imperium had a couple Eldar homies

[small breach]

For the imperium, to what extent would a “remote” turret be acceptable? AI is a big no no so I’d imagine a self-controlled turret wouldn’t be good, but what about a turret operated by a servitor or guardsman from within a tank hatch? (Ex: CROWS)

[shadow plover]

think tarantula turrets have a basic machine spirit without real intelligence so suppose it's pretty close to what you are asking

other than that a servoskull implanted to a turret I suppose

[green loom]

Servitor turrets are just

A thing

I think

[storm jungle]

yeah they are

[queen laurel]

turret emplacements are a thing

[storm jungle]

Basically simple automated turrets

or as Ed said servitor ones, both work

[green loom]

Though I wouldn't trust going infront of them

[storm jungle]

[queen laurel]

oh yeah, i just caught up to pariah nexus and i must say i like sakan

[green loom]

Sakan DN

[storm jungle]

something-something

more like sakan deez flamers

😎

[green loom]

There's no way this wasn't on purpose

[queen laurel]

that was funny

i hope szeras rips out your soul and liquefies you alive

[storm jungle]

[queen laurel]

Yeah but that scene of him ripping out someone's soul I think

It was pretty cool

[green loom]

He doesn't believe in souls

Methinks thas just data the mindshackle scarabs grabbed

[queen laurel]

yeah unscientific terminology and all that

[urban spire]

the mechanicus uses logic engines for various things, such as remote operation

the kastelan robots run on punch cards for example

they used to have sophisticated AI, but that got ripped out after the heresy

basically anything is fine as long as a human brain did all the thinking involved either in situ or ahead of time

lotta "if then"s in mechanicus code, i imagine

[versed ledge]

Aren't logic engines just augmented GAI?

[jade holly]

I’m watching a video detailing the different SM legions and ngl, I think either the Imperial Fists or the Salamanders are my favorite

[crystal forum]

what makes you like them in particular?

[keen stratus]

i wonder how people in the empire reproduce (outside of marines)