40k-lore-chat

[normal light]

?

They are back in lore or what?

[green loom]

New book on Cadia

Has them appearing alot

Or not a lot but they actually appear

Stalling Abaddon and protecting the pylons on cadia

[normal light]

Ok

[storm jungle]

Goddamn this summary is long

[green loom]

Yes

[spare osprey]

From what I read

It’s like a summary of every damn page

[storm jungle]

Honestly im not complaining

This saves me time

[frosty stag]

Is the crossover with mtg cannon

[storm jungle]

theres no event

its just cards and artwork

[frosty stag]

There should have been an event

Jace shows up gets called a psyker and gets publicity executed

[storm jungle]

-A member of the Inquisition contacted Creed. He told him exposure to daemonic manifestations on any planet means mass troop purges and sector-wide sterilization bombing from orbit. Amazingly, Cadia evaded that fate for so long. But now, at the very least, Cadia requires mass quarantine and executions. If daemons continue to manifest, then Cadia will suffer the fate of extermintus.

• Creed was shocked. Virus bombing of Cadia? They just defeated Abaddon and they are rewarded with annihilation? The Inquisition would destroy the finest fortress and the recruiting world of the hardest troops in the Imperium.

• The Inquistor asked Creed to look at the bigger picture. The world can be resettled. After all, there are more Cadians off-world than there are on Cadia. The Imperium cannot run the risk of exporting tainted troops to every sector in the Imperium via Cadia's musters.

• The Inquisitor forced Creed into an understanding that should an exterminatus order be issued for Cadia, he would not order any evacuations

[normal light]

Wait what?

So in this book Cadia was just purged?

[green loom]

[green loom]

It was going to be

Though frankly

I doubt there'd be many cadian survivors left even if it DIDN'T blow up

[storm jungle]

Question

do you know much about what happened at Cadia

[green loom]

Celefax is back on the menu

[storm jungle]

• Later, while Cawl was on the vox with Creed talking about the incoming second ground invasion led by Abaddon himself and how long Cawl has to finish work, Trazyn was messing around with Cawl's stuff. Trazyn tore off a lens from a servo-skull. Cawl covered the vox and asked Trazyn what was he doing. Trazyn said that it was from a Forgeworld lost during the Heresy. It was far too good to be wasted on a servo-skull. Cawl demanded that he put it back. Cawl could have sworn that Trazyn's metal face somehow smiled before he flicked his metal hand as if pulling a magic trick, vanishing the lens into a hole in reality. Then, he took an innocent tone and said he lost it.

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-thief-steal-yoink-take-out-gif-17356971

[green loom]

This is getting blatant

[shadow plover]

so without any spoilers does the story seem good? Might get it on audible

[normal light]

Not a lot , but know that it`s should be shattered because of large space fortress crushing into planet

[storm jungle]

good enough

[storm jungle]

Its literally Gathering Storm Book 1 but detailed

This summary is long but it seems REALLY fun

well "fun"

[shadow plover]

Good because I couldn't be bothered to read the physical only book

[green loom]

I wonder if Shas' desc of Greyfax is real or him playing on it

[storm jungle]

Lmao

[green loom]

Because I'm taking this as soft confirmation

[storm jungle]

Bro shes literally falling for her 💀

[storm jungle]

Yeah basically this is the Fall of Cadia book we should have gotten instead of the Cadia Stands book. Lots of details, lots of characters, lots of cool moments

[shadow plover]

Right, sounds good

Wait was this the Reed one or by someone else

[storm jungle]

Robert Rath

how do I know

because it has a lot of Trollzyn

[shadow plover]

Rath, Reed, always mix those up

tried googling "creed book" and got the Jude Reid one

[storm jungle]

Also one part to show how great this book is

• Later, while Cawl was on the vox with Creed talking about the incoming second ground invasion led by Abaddon himself and how long Cawl has to finish work, Trazyn was messing around with Cawl's stuff. Trazyn tore off a lens from a servo-skull. Cawl covered the vox and asked Trazyn what was he doing. Trazyn said that it was from a Forgeworld lost during the Heresy. It was far too good to be wasted on a servo-skull. Cawl demanded that he put it back. Cawl could have sworn that Trazyn's metal face somehow smiled before he flicked his metal hand as if pulling a magic trick, vanishing the lens into a hole in reality. Then, he took an innocent tone and said he lost it.

• Cawl suppressed a rage-induced scream that was boiling in his throat and went back to talking to Creed.

[winter vessel]

Cadia wasn’t the only thing that fell that day.

[storm jungle]

[green loom]

I NEED to draw this

Fkn Creed slide-shotting a Black Legion terminator while smoking his cigar

[storm jungle]

he literally

pulled a Veteran Gaming move

🛝

[normal light]

[green loom]

Pictured: Creed

[normal light]

Probably hitting terminator in the eye

[storm jungle]

• The Inquisition sent an order that none escape the dying Cadia. The Ordo Hereticus ordered the forces of the Imperial Church and the Sisters of Battle on Cadia to block any evacuation effort. The dying world was under quarantine. Under gunpoint they were forcing a wounded Creed to command the Cadians to hold position and accept their deaths in service of the Emperor. Before, he could complete this order, Greyfax snatched the vox from him and told the Inquisition representative that by her supreme authority as a high-ranking inquisitor, she was voiding the quarantine order. The evacuation was to begin now post haste!

The Cadian characters encountered an Inquisitor that refused to obey Greyfax's evacuation orders. He won't allow what he saw as tainted troops to escape Cadia and become vectors of mutation and Chaos outbreaks. He won't allow them to become tools of the Despoiler like what happened with the Volscani. The Cadian leader told the Inquisitor that he should get his head down. There are Chaos snipers nearby. They had already lost two officers to them. If the Inquisitor was shot by these snipers it would be something natural. The Inquisitor was about to ask her what she was talking about when his head exploded from a las-shot. The Inquistor fell among the pile of bodies, becoming unrecognizable. The Cadian leader told her men to report that an Inquistor was downed by an enemy sniper. The Cadian characters resumed their evacuation.

[green loom]

Waiting for Robert Rath Celestine novel rn

[spare osprey]

Wonder how that effects grander imperial views of cadians

That also helps a major fuck ton with a homebrew thingy I’m up to

[storm jungle]

Yeah theres a lot in this summary

but id also say the effects are non-existant because this is a book about an event that is like 3-4 years old now

[spare osprey]

Fair

[terse flume]

i mean that really is a waste, what the fuck does cawl care

[storm jungle]

because its his fucking servo-skull

would you like it if i you were flying around your expensive toy drone and I just stole one of its rotors?

[terse flume]

motherfucker has a like, ten thousand + year old antique being used as an iphone lense

[storm jungle]

This is admech

rationality is not allowed

[terse flume]

he can go to space best buy and spend like fifty space dollars on a lovely telephoto lense and leave the priceless artifacts to the museum. i normally on principle do not agree with The British Museum But A Lich, but cmon

[arctic talon]

It might be a servoskull made out of someone he used to know or care about lol

It’s also his stuff

Some Servoskulls are sentimental to some tech priests due to their origin

[storm jungle]

Yeah like i said this is the same as me slapping your robot drone and stealing its eye lens because it looks neat.

You are literally vandalizing and stealing my shit

https://tenor.com/view/yoink-gif-21780692

[plush mason]

Trazyn really is the embodiment of the British Museum lmao

[storm jungle]

Like i do know people meme that hes a kleptomaniac but this literally is the best example of it lmao

[plush mason]

yeah lol

[tawdry escarp]

I started getting into Raven Guard lore when I chose them as my first army

[plush mason]

sneaky walking tanks

[tawdry escarp]

Corvus having the ability to turn off people seeing him is interesting

[storm jungle]

its less that and him just literally turning invisible

its like that scene with Drax

https://tenor.com/view/drax-infinity-war-galactic-republic-discord-flare-gif-21678352

[tawdry escarp]

The description of it made it seem like he was preventing people from perceiving him. It even mentions that it doesn't work on non living things like cameras

[storm jungle]

its a bit inconsistent but its more or less him turning invisible

its a really goofy power

[tawdry escarp]

Him rocking Lorgar's shit every time they fight is great

And the fact that his Warp form is his true form and that all Primarchs have a true Warp form like that is an interesting thing to learn

I'd be willing to bet money that one of the future Primarch reveals is going to be Corvus chasing Lorgar out of the Warp

[storm jungle]

its very much dependant on with loyalist Chapter with their own codex that makes money.

So possibly Russ first

[tawdry escarp]

Oh, I know it'll probably be awhile. There are several Chapters more popular than Raven Guard

I wouldn't be surprised if Lorgar and Corax were some of the last brought back to tabletop

I'm just saying their returns are going to be linked

Truthfully, Raven Guard wasn't my first choice. I was going to do Salamanders but I couldn't find the Battle Box I wanted anywhere I was comfortable ordering from

[storm jungle]

Its very much a business decision at the end of the day

by 10 years we'll probably have every primarch back so

[tawdry escarp]

I don't regret going Raven Guard, though. I like their lore and their combat doctrine

[plush mason]

as a Wulfen or not at all

just for the salt

[storm jungle]

thinking from a tabletop perspective probably non-wulfen

[plush mason]

true

you know. i wonder how broken the wulfen would be if they had the "come back to life" thing the werewolves of eastern European myth had

[storm jungle]

honestly they are goofy as it is

so maybe for the best

[vast heart]

I still want an extremely on-the-nose Legion of the Damned codex where Ferrus Manus is like a headless horseman ghost primarch who leads them. I know it's the most low hanging fruit thing imaginable but it just feels right and gives Ferrus a chance to be something other than a chewtoy for the plot

But I also want clonegrim to become the Iron Hands primarch and release alongside an Emps Children refresh so Fulgrims gets a sexy new Guilleman-style mini and a snake monster one. GW I am literally willing to give you thousands of my hard earned dollarydoos on big primarch models; you've just gotta make the things

Plus straight up warp ghost headless horseman feels like it fills out what's missing from Mortarions/The Nightbringer's aesthetic

[green loom]

Clonegrim is just gone

His only point in le plot was to show how fucked Bile is

[spare osprey]

boy i hope ferrus stays gone respectfully

like i'm all for primarchs coming back but man

bringing back dead ones is just boring imo

cause yeah ferrus was pretty much just a plot device, but he was a damn important one

[queen laurel]

Yeah, if you're going to bring back someone bring back something that can be saved not something that has been destroyed so much that's practically nothing left of em

[spare osprey]

i say we rewrite all of warhammer

the emps is dead

horus is the one who's actually on the throne

[queen laurel]

One of his sons that literally awakened back to said

" Horus should have just won that battle Royale bro what the hell is this"

[thick cedar]

How common are Psyker healers on the field

[arctic talon]

not very common because psykers are better off using their powers offensively then patching up a guardsmen

its better for a psyker to just melt a bunch of guys then heal someones wounds

[queen laurel]

psyker powers by nature are very dangerous

So controlling them to allow healing properties is very hard

something like that takes alot of practice

[arctic talon]

Tbf biomancy can regrow limbs

[queen laurel]

Yeah it's effective but very hard to learn

[arctic talon]

but a psyker is more likely to use it on themselves in the militarum

psykers in the guard are generally speaking a walking reusable bomb

[queen laurel]

yeah, one wrong engagement they can literally become a portal that a demon can just come out of

[arctic talon]

It’s a more efficient use of a psykers time to just remove the issue

[normal light]

Usually psyker will just grow armblades or something like it from his body to use as a weapon

[arctic talon]

Then try to help someone effected by it

[arctic talon]

Yeah or turn their flesh to steel

There’s very little reason to use psychic powers for medical care on a normal human

Unless they’re very important

[normal light]

Or maybe just boil enemy blood

[queen laurel]

And plus other branches of the imperium are already pretty good at that job

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[queen laurel]

Why waste your power that can turn a giant superhuman into metal soup on healing someone?

[arctic talon]

Also a lot of wounds that need psychic intervention tend to be too severe to heal fast anyways

[thick cedar]

But can they cure hang nails?

[arctic talon]

Prolly lol

Might want to make sure they know what they’re doing though lol

They might make it worse

[queen laurel]

Well yes but there is also a chance that they may mutate your hangnail into a skin snake that eat you

[normal light]

Casual psyker perils of warp

[queen laurel]

yeah a little bit of silliness you know

[celest dome]

They do have Steel Arm/Hammerhand but I don't remember them growing blades and stuff

[normal light]

Silliest psyker just randomly open a daemon portal from himself

[normal light]

Casual Biomancy

[thick cedar]

Is there a way I can read about the warp and its effect that isnt really mentioned? LIke the more mundane aspects

Kinda like how warp can make things cold

that kind of stuff

[green loom]

Literally any random book that has warp stuff lol

[queen laurel]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Warp

this should explain a good chunk of what you're looking for

[thick cedar]

ty

[crystal forum]

who tf calls it the ether

[shadow plover]

Thousand Sons probably

[storm jungle]

Tons of characters

the Warp is referred to as a lot of names in novels

most of them are just IRL terms for other planes of existence/realms

[green loom]

So Fall of Cadia references femme daemon of khorne, should I draw a blood letter with boobs or do I do something different

[queen laurel]

I mean you did say you want to try drawing female characters so

fuck it

You may as well try pissing off some people

[green loom]

Kek

First some based Binkie fan art

[rose thorn]

I hope we get another less humanoid xenos faction in the future

I really like the spindle drones and I would love if we get like

‘Remains of the old ones’ or something like that

[queen laurel]

Yeah right now the only thing i can think of that doesn't have a humanoid posture is the tyranids but even then, they have actual soldiers that walk on two legs

[rose thorn]

And they can bring humans too Lmao

Like, Tyranids and titanic legions are the only non humanoid factions I believe

Oh and demons of tzeentch

[queen laurel]

But i understand the human body shape does a lot of things, it can be dexterous to allow quick shots and amazing forms of agility, or you can alter this to turn it into
Durable and strong body capable of wielding massive weaponry

It Does a lot of things which is why the humanoid shape is a pretty common thing in fiction

[rose thorn]

Yeah and it’s Probably easier to paint, but I feel like a weirder offshoot would be interesting, even if it’s like a 5 unit army

Gets absolutely nothing, but at least it would be an option

[queen laurel]

Oh i agree, i want to see a new humanoid shape army

[normal light]

New Xenos from the ?

[crystal forum]

Some humanoids suck ass to paint too. mechanicus i hear are awful because of all the tendrils and weird machine parts

[queen laurel]

I dare you to paint belisarius cawl

[crystal forum]

i do wonder how tf somebody comes up with this shit

[frosty stag]

Im just gonna dip that thing in the army painter bucket

[crystal forum]

model sculptors can be so creative but god damn

[frosty stag]

Id cry

[queen laurel]

Whoever came up with this definitely got extra bread that day

[crystal forum]

i think it says a lot that it looks like a jumbled mess to my unartistic eye

i wish i could be that creative

anyways for the topic of new xenos... it would be a great thing if GW wasn't the one handling the lore

dwarves aren't even a new addition yet they feel like they were created in a single brainstorming session

[queen laurel]

Yeah it has some deep rock galactic elements to it too

I'm not even trying to insert deep rock galactic into the conversation to talk about it they literally have things that you can take from deep rock galactic

[crystal forum]

hey im one of the people who wishes they took more inspiration from DRG

[queen laurel]

Also they have dark age of technology tech

[rose thorn]

I love the necromunda squats so much they are why I got into it

[queen laurel]

So

[crystal forum]

dwarves are classically an industrious race, not necessarily a technologically advanced one. The problem is that modern fantasy gave them steampunk aesthetics in medieval settings so it's like GW decided that they're going to make them advanced in 40k too

[queen laurel]

They look pretty cool i will admit

[queen laurel]

Yeah, dwarves in fantasy settings are known to be the best of making weapons and armor

[crystal forum]

i dont like the idea of space dwarves looking too advanced in tech. their gear should look way more utilitarian and chunky

[queen laurel]

Masters of the forge they say

[queen laurel]

Yeah, they're basically just advance imperium tech, i want them to have their own tech different from the imperium may be taking inspiration from it because they squats, but making it different enough that i don't have to look at it in say that's an advanced bolter

[crystal forum]

i feel the same way

hopefully when GW decides to add more votaan units in 10 years they'll have more of their own style

but i'm just going to 3d print proxies made by more talented designers in the meantime

[queen laurel]

Yeah that's what i want don't just have them have imperium tech but better

[storm jungle]

Dwarves always tend to be advanced in certain industrial aspects in fiction, this has been a case in LOTR and many other fantasy media.

Theres nothing wrong with trying new things and going away from that aesthetic.

If you want grungy votann just look at the Necromunda ones imo

[storm jungle]

And they basically did tbh

a lot of shit in DRG is basically Votann in aesthetic lol

[queen laurel]

Using robots to mine

Weapons

The aesthetic shape language

A good chunk

[storm jungle]

Yeah a lot of things

DRG has a good mix of the industrial-mars-rover aesthetic

[queen laurel]

Yeah you can mimic drg armor aesthetics very well

[crystal forum]

that's why i specified industrious instead of technologically advanced. there's a difference there.

[storm jungle]

Eh its mostly the same thing

Dwarf writers are usually unoriginal

[crystal forum]

personally i see it as something different. it's why i hate when they get steampunk stuff in fantasy settings

[storm jungle]

Admech Moment

[crystal forum]

and for originality well that's not something that matters a lot in fantasy and sci fi

[storm jungle]

It doesn't but when its done well it can be excellent

theres a reason people love the Dwemer in Elder Scrolls

[queen laurel]

An unoriginal idea can still be good if executed well enough

[crystal forum]

it's not even that it's an unoriginal idea, it's just a trope

[storm jungle]

Its honestly both

[crystal forum]

you can have a completely original story while sticking to classic fantasy tropes

[storm jungle]

you cant steer away from these core ideas because people will dislike it.

and if theres anything people dislike its change

If you made a fantasy setting and made orcs a civilized race of martial prowess people would hate it lol

[queen laurel]

Also coming up with something unique in the modern-day age where ideas are consumed rapidly is very hard

[storm jungle]

Also that too.

its safer to just stick to the generic base idea

[queen laurel]

That's why in the 90s fictional comics and other media are very fun

Because back then nobody really contends and copies ideas that much

You can be a lot more free and original with your takes

Now it's hard to come up with something very original that no one really made

[storm jungle]

that moment when the Dune movie came out and you had people asking "wow this movie is 40k as fuck"

[crystal forum]

and i dont even like this idea that originality is something that should be strived for at all costs. ancient greeks didn't seem to care that they kept using the same group of gods in their stories so why should we

[storm jungle]

Originality should always be strived

its a good thing

Also ancient greece had a shit ton of gods, they werent exactly running out of material

[crystal forum]

it's still a limited amount

[queen laurel]

Yeah trying to make something you made as unique as possible to easily distinguish it is one of the core things in making something

[storm jungle]

^

Constantly stealing ideas and just never trying anything new is lazy.

[crystal forum]

and that's exactly what i mean. they could still make fresh stories using the same building blocks

hell most stories back then fell under comedy or drama and they still loved it

[storm jungle]

Yeah but you forget people are usually uncreative

[queen laurel]

That is why i made my ork clan specialized in rescuing people which is something orks are not to do, it makes them something fun while making them something unique compared to the other ork tribes on warhammer

Is something of extra flavor

[storm jungle]

pretty much

[crystal forum]

i think that's because nobody's really creative. we're all taking ideas from others and making something new out of it

[storm jungle]

Nah creativity always exists

its just down to how much you do yourself or take inspiration from

no idea is original but theres always a cap

[queen laurel]

Creativity always exist and using something to make something creative is creativity in of itself

[storm jungle]

Warhammer is an IP built on stolen ideas

but it still went ahead to mostly do its own thing

[crystal forum]

yes this is what i meant but phrased better. i agree

[queen laurel]

I love the fact that i spout this nonsense even though i make the most generic characters and homebrew ever

[crystal forum]

we all have our own styles. i've accepted the fact that my brain is limited to thinking in practical terms

if everybody was artistic then nobody would be

[queen laurel]

We all have our own things that makes us human

Yes

Nobody is truly the same in this world

All right let's stop this before we get to deep into philosophy

[crystal forum]

i just want space dwarves that aren't another advanced looking xeno faction

and yes i called them xenos fight me

[small breach]

Does the Imperial Guard have something similar to a Thunderhawk transport for fast vehicle insertion onto a battlefield?

[crystal forum]

a utility plane looking thing i cant remember the name of

it just got a new model too i think

[small breach]

I could’ve sworn it could drop in a Russ or Baneblade but I could be wrong

Oh the Valkyrie sky talon might be it

[crystal forum]

arvus lighter @small breach

[small breach]

Ah that’s it, thanks

Would the Imperial Navy have access to thunderhawks or is that pretty much an Astartes only transport post-heresy?

[crystal forum]

there wouldn't normally be a reason for normie guardsmen to have access to one if that's what you mean

sisters of battle have access to some

and some high ranking officials might have one

but i don't think they fall under naval vehicles

[small breach]

Gotcha. Just trying to figure what vehicle would quickly deploy a Leman Russ or Baneblade if there was a call for it

I’ve heard the devourer drop ship is an option

[storm jungle]

Thunderhawks are exclusively for space marines, but theres a lot of un-named dropships with no artwork that the Navy use for Guard vehicle deployments.

[rose thorn]

I read behemoth as blue tooth for some reason

[storm jungle]

[rose thorn]

Imagine someone connecting their servo skull to play some beats for the emperor

“Hey guys mind if I put some tubes for the deployment?”

fortune son

[storm jungle]

accurate

[idle phoenix]

How does the Zealot Preacher work in regards to the overarching lore, specific to the game? Are we ex prisoners turned preacher (who is in charge of a shrine and considered pretty high up in the totem pole of randos), or are we ex preacher turned prisoner turned second chance fighter?

[storm jungle]

They are all random homeless religious zealots

they were arrested for the reasons you can pick in the bio you make and sent to the Tancred Bastion prison-barge

but not any of them are anyone worthy of note

[idle phoenix]

Oh thank you, that clarifies a lot. I was asking because someone once posted an heirarchy of the in-game classes (or the closest approximation) and I saw that preachers in general are pretty high up compared to the usual raff, same as veterans and psykers. But none of the in-game stuff supported that, and now it all makes sense!

[storm jungle]

Yeah no thats just GW using the title as a form of rank

Preachers can be literally anyone Ecclesiarchy sanctioned to a rando street-ranter

same as IRL how you dont exactly need to have religious academic experience to just stand ontop of a box and scream things from the bible lol

[idle phoenix]

LOL great way to put it, thanks! I'm assuming all the other class titles are the same? Just rando excon's/someone with warp training that was arrested and released into the Ordo Hereticus as a peon?

[celest dome]

https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Adeptus_Ministorum#Preacher

[celest dome]

You mean Ogryn and Psyker ? Or Skullbreaker and Psykinetic ?

[storm jungle]

The psykers don't exactly have a rank, Veteran is just a Veteran so an actual role in the Militarum that you can read up on, was in the Guard codexes too as a position you can achieve by... well being a veteran lol

[celest dome]

Neither is Ogryn

But I didn't really understand what he meant

[storm jungle]

Hes saying if their titles are related to their actual ranks in any Imperial organisation.

[celest dome]

Just rando excon's/someone with warp training that was arrested and released into the Ordo Hereticus as a peon
This threw me in a loop

[idle phoenix]

Sorry if it's unclear, but Witchfinder Dilara is correct! Wanted to see if they were actual "titles" or just "names of the classes"

[celest dome]

But then again today's brain is a potato salad

[idle phoenix]

Haha no worries I think my question was super confusing to begin with

[celest dome]

Psykinetic and Skullbreaker never appeared before
Sharpshooter surely has before

But I forgot where there would be a source for it

[storm jungle]

Yeah very much only Vet is the person with an actual "rank"

[storm jungle]

but very much all the player characters are "rejects" as the game implies.

HOWEVER

When you reach Lvl.30 you officially become an Ordo Hereticus agent.

not like a super high ranking agent but basically an Acolyte, because the characters have rare interactions like mentioning taking the Hereticus Oath etc

[idle phoenix]

This is exactly what I was looking for and didn't know what I was looking for, thanks friend!

[storm jungle]

No worries!

[celest dome]

Isn't Morrow a Throne agent

[storm jungle]

Technically yes but Morrow is a tier above us since hes a retinue member.

aka special characters that get special roles that fit them in the warband like most Inquisitor retinues.

[celest dome]

Aren't those Throne Agent anyway ?

[storm jungle]

Anyone that works for the Inquistion is a throne agent

its more a title than a certain role

[celest dome]

With Melk being a Prime, Rannick being Interrogator, and that other lady being an Explicator, or the other wya ahouth

[celest dome]

There is a specific no ?

[storm jungle]

Basically you dont have to have a role on this board to be a high ranking member. Inquisitor retinues were made with an RPG/Roleplay thing in mind by GW

So lets say you are a part of my team and I dub you the role of Hereticus Cactitioner or something.

and I say you can command and have your own authority below me, etc

thats basically what Sgt. Morrow is

[celest dome]

But you're already my boss no ? You decreed so back in January or something

[storm jungle]

[idle phoenix]

What would be the "bounty hunter" rank in the inquisition? Would it just be an Enforcer? Or specifically a Seeker?

[storm jungle]

just a bounty-hunter

[celest dome]

They could be any

[storm jungle]

^

[celest dome]

Depend how much they rose

But in the acolyte roles, I'd say they started as a Warrior type

[storm jungle]

as I said above while there's SOME pre-set ranks an Inquisitor can give you any made-up position because their power and influence is very much mostly absolute.

[celest dome]

But that's purely for TT/rpg

[storm jungle]

^

its very much made to be flexible on purpose for RPG reasons

[celest dome]

Also cause GW suck at making good lore

[idle phoenix]

Thank you lore chat team, you guys rock and I appreciate the useful information haha. So if I wanted to be a "Star killer forgemaster Huntsman" they had the authority to handwave it?

[celest dome]

I mean, yes ? Like I don't really understand how those words interact with each other but local customs and such

[storm jungle]

Yeah very much so lmao

just make sure to use broken-latin tho

that makes anything sound good 😎

[celest dome]

"good"

[storm jungle]

good

[celest dome]

"good"

[storm jungle]

[celest dome]

You're not my boss

Oh wait

[storm jungle]

[idle phoenix]

How difficult would it be to become a Custodes? I know even being born in the right circumstances is difficult, but lets say you're the child of someone who rubs elbows with the High Lords of Terra and given the opportunity to enter training

[storm jungle]

Basically just be the newborn of a terran noble

thats it

Then you just gotta survive the initiation and gene-alchemy procedures

[celest dome]

You'd have to be born on Terra, be from a good family, then have the procedures, then survive thoses and the training

[idle phoenix]

Similar to the Astartes?

[storm jungle]

Kinda

Astartes are a lot more blunt procedure wise and mass-produced.

Custodes have to be taken in as literal infants

and you are MASTER-CRAFTED to be a gene-enhanced warrior

its an intricate process that takes a long time

the entire procedure itself is also unknown and a highly kept secret

[celest dome]

Worse than Astartes

Or better depending on the point of view

[storm jungle]

Pretty much better.

The process is just more excruciating from what we are told since its so detailed and has a higher fatality rate.

but once its done you are pretty much a demi-god warrior lol

[idle phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-pretty-cool-sam-gorski-corridor-crew-thats-cool-thats-amazing-gif-17766126

Except the excruciating process and fatality rate

[storm jungle]

Yeah they are literally just space marines but better

[idle phoenix]

So like Premium Space Marines xD thanks team!! Learned a lot today

[storm jungle]

[normal light]

Mass producing Primaris Space Marines sounds funny

Also corrupted Primaris Space Marines WHEN?

I NEED NEW RECRUITS TO MY WARBAND

[storm jungle]

already happened with the Murder Curse

[normal light]

?

Oh

Corrupted Battle Sisters and Primaris Space Marines in TTS when?

[winter vessel]

When Games Workshop pulls that stick out of their ass labeled "IP policy". So not for a while.

[normal light]

😔

[crystal forum]

is this official or fan made

[storm jungle]

Do you actually expect GW to keep up with this shit

its made by me and a friend gathering every bit of official canon imperial ship art.

but its entirely lore-accurate

[crystal forum]

so you're saying

that your source is you made it up

[storm jungle]

No because this is all official material.

We just put it on a list.

none of the ships here are made up

[spare osprey]

sounds like what someone who made up every ship on that list would say

[storm jungle]

[spare osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/seth-meyers-late-night-seth-late-night-with-seth-meyers-lnsm-lnsmgi-fs-gif-7544758

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-running-away-running-escape-animal-gif-14844387

[small breach]

Thanks for the extensive list of vessels! It looks like a tetrarch heavy lander was what I was thinking of

[storm jungle]

Happy to help 👍

[plush mason]

ngl i love that they call the orbital landers cutters

[nocturne crest]

Have the guard ever used xenos vehicles in a war?

[storm jungle]

Nope.

Any use of xenos weapons is unsanctioned and would get them executed on the spot

[tawdry escarp]

The AdMech are especially vicious about tech heresy

They'll turn you into a servitor. A fate worse than death

[arctic talon]

That’s if you’re lucky

The mechanicus has way less humane punishments

Tech thralls

Or the other “fun” execution methods

[storm jungle]

Hadron literally says ingame when you see people strung up on breaking-wheels that she could have come up with a much better punishment where they would have lived longer and suffered more instead of being dead right away

you go get em girl 💅

[arctic talon]

Average tech priest

Wonder if they get a course on torture on mars

[queen laurel]

yeah, Being the tool and one of the biggest treatment provider in the imperium, the mechanicus are quite horrifying

[arctic talon]

Because tech priests get weirdly creative with punishments

[storm jungle]

yeah Hadron is a great insight into admech if you dont know much about 40k

[arctic talon]

Then again the average STEM student is like 10 minutes away from murdering someone

So maybe it’s based on life

[queen laurel]

Yeah but out of all the admech characters I've seen on a game, she's even more grumpy

She's like a tech support that's always trying to help grandmas 24/7

And she's just done with it but she's forced to do it

[storm jungle]

Another one of my fav lines of hers is when you're being lowered to the plasma-reactor to repair it and she says that an entire merchant district has been requalified as slave-labour and that they will attend to the fixing of the reactor when we are done

[plush mason]

a course? more likely they have many courses

[storm jungle]

Also "Flesh is the cheapest of fuels."

[arctic talon]

She def has the same vibes of midranking tech priests

Where they’re stuck in their job

With no upward mobility lol

They get very spiteful or grumpy lol

Which is why they also tend to murder each other the most

[queen laurel]

This applies to the wider imperium, it's people are the only reason why that rusty machinery that is falling apart is still alive

[arctic talon]

She’s also decently young lol only 300 something for a position like she has is fast

[queen laurel]

Yeah that makes sense

She is also pretty tame in mechanical attachments

[arctic talon]

She’s past the crux like any tech priest should be

But still pretty humanoid

[storm jungle]

she has

a fucking peg leg

also will say as far as techpriest designs go shes not terrible but I hate how she has a human hand

like literally pristine, no dirt or damage whatsoever, it looks so out of place

[arctic talon]

Yeah her human hand looks way too young lol

Unless she took someone else’s hand for herself

But she sure as fuck isn’t a genator lol

[storm jungle]

Yeah her face is a literal fucking radiated potato

shame literally everyone that draws her to look sexy forgets that

[storm jungle]

yeah shes even worse if you look upclose with freecam

greatest mistake of my life

[queen laurel]

At least her name is a fun discovery

[storm jungle]

Writers doing their homework 👌

[plush mason]

isnt part of her name also omnicron?

[arctic talon]

Hadron Omega-7-7

Iirc

[plush mason]

ah

[arctic talon]

Which means she might be a vatgrown

[queen laurel]

she is also named after the LHC which stand for The Large Hadron Collider, which is the biggest particle accelerator on the world

It's funny

[plush mason]

dont most techpriests have names like that reguardless of vatgrown or not?

[storm jungle]

It depends

[arctic talon]

Nah

^

[storm jungle]

Techpriests are named after either greek letters + numbers or just straight up have normal names.

its mostly to like

make them seem inhuman by the writers

But you can literally just name them anything, greek/numbers combo is just the more popular method.

[queen laurel]

john Alpha-69

[arctic talon]

Lol

[storm jungle]

No joke that fits the bill lol

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

like Cawl's name Belisarius is just named after a famous roman figure

and so on etc

Kelbor Hal for example is just named Hal because evil robot from 2000 a Space Odyssey

because he turns traitor during the Heresy lmao

[arctic talon]

Tech priest names can range from this sounds like a robot to normal human

tech priests with “parents” often get real names

[plush mason]

smart way to do it. a technothecrocy like the admech would have their names be more mechine/robot like

[storm jungle]

Yeah very much so, it allows for homebrew

[queen laurel]

Also if I remember there was a tech priest who married another tech priest on a story once

[arctic talon]

Not exactly marriage but it’s an equivalent

The admechs definition of family is strange

[queen laurel]

so techpriests can still find human qualities

[arctic talon]

Also funnily enough skitarii celebrate their first combat anniversary

[queen laurel]

Even if it's a flocked up definition of it

[arctic talon]

As a sort of birthday

[storm jungle]

Heavily augmented techpriests can still show compassion and humanity to a sense.

[arctic talon]

^

[storm jungle]

Faustinius from Mechanicus is a great example

[arctic talon]

The way they show it is different

But it does exist in some form for some

[plush mason]

he has neural vaults that let him full on ignore his emotions when he wants too which ngl i would kill to have irl

[storm jungle]

Yeah he says he keeps his human emotions locked in his memory-brainvault but when a situation requires human thought instead of cold mathematics he will instantly utilize it, he also shows disdain when he hears how the skitarii marshall of his expedition thinks he will throw skitarii lives away like cannon-fodder

[plush mason]

yeah

[arctic talon]

Gifts that can be given on a combat anniversary range from, random pieces of technology, ammo, or relics

[queen laurel]

also, Dilara, ᛒᚢᚱᚾ ᛁᚾ ᛏᚺᛖ ᚹᚨᚱᛈ

[arctic talon]

💀

[plush mason]

Faustinius was one of the best parts of that game hands down

[arctic talon]

Bruh

[storm jungle]

Lmao

[arctic talon]

I like the entire main caste

[storm jungle]

i wont delete that since no nudity but yeah

[arctic talon]

Of mechanicus tbh

[storm jungle]

also yeah they are ALL great

like they show EVERY facet of Admech

minus the old fuck

fuck him

[arctic talon]

All of them exemplify different parts of the mechanicus

[arctic talon]

Videx is an overly religious dumbass

[plush mason]

he is metallicus so lol

[arctic talon]

[storm jungle]

Legit, fucking moron lmao

[arctic talon]

Metallica lookin ass

There’s a reason your forgeworld got fucked

[storm jungle]

Shut the fuck up and be glad i didnt put you in an airlock yet you old fuck

YEET

[plush mason]

Scaevola>>>>Videx

[storm jungle]

^

[arctic talon]

Rho and Scaevola show 2 sides of the same coin

In terms of like

Being greedy mf’ers lol

[plush mason]

"ERROR: DAMN NOT FOUND" is one of the greatest lines in gaming history imo

[arctic talon]

Rho is practically a doomsday prepped with how much crap he’s requesting you go out and get

And scaveola is a kelptomaniac lol

[queen laurel]

bro got that gene stealer dome drip

[storm jungle]

Oh my god

i forgot literally EVERY one of his dialogue bits has him quoting a fucking book

you can bet they shoved his ass into a locker

[arctic talon]

Not every one

almost

He’s the nerd

Among the nerds

[storm jungle]

I do love how his quotes are also the most fascist and ignorant shit

lmao

[plush mason]

that one time he agreed with Scaevola was the only line i remember from him lol

[storm jungle]

SAME

[arctic talon]

Prime Capatrix is just a straight up psychopath who wants to kill things lol

Which yeah

Fits

[storm jungle]

Shes all about that hunter grindset

[plush mason]

when you first fight a crypttech

[arctic talon]

She’s from Ryza lol

[storm jungle]

meanwhile

Anything: happens

Scaevola: YO I WANT THAT SHIT DAMN

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-thief-steal-yoink-take-out-gif-17356971

[arctic talon]

Literal kleptomaniac pack rat

[plush mason]

what was the name of the ship security dude the dlc added?

[queen laurel]

Speaking of mechanicus how far do you think the imperium will improve if you allowed them to innovate

[storm jungle]

Not much

[arctic talon]

Not much

[storm jungle]

they'd just be 30k Imperium

[arctic talon]

They already do innovate technically

It’s slow as shit

[storm jungle]

I actually cannot remember, his appearance is super brief

[arctic talon]

And causes a religious clusterfuck

Whenever it happens

[plush mason]

yeah it was honestly a bit disappointing

[storm jungle]

same

like the DLC is not bad

but its eh

[arctic talon]

Heratek mission one being marked as “easy”

[plush mason]

the dude was an arch-heratek that not even Stygies 8 could tolerate and we off him in like 40 mins tops lol

[arctic talon]

Stygies 8 don’t like xenarites that much tbf

[storm jungle]

Yeah also like

Stygies has Xenophiles in tons BUT

they at least ATTEMPT to keep it under wraps

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

ignore the Deathwatch killteams

[arctic talon]

Stygies being in an active Cold War

Is hilarious

[plush mason]

Stygies is my fav forgeworld purely for their color scheme lol

[arctic talon]

Also still no genestealers on Mars

The catacombs get them first

[plush mason]

with the nids pushing in on Terra i feel the GSC that is there needs to start doing stuff

[arctic talon]

They are

They’re actively fighting a war rn

[plush mason]

nice

i wonder where GW will take this part of the lore

[arctic talon]

Nids land on terra kill a fuck ton of people and devastate it even harder

Imperium stops them somehow

They’re not gona let terra fall

[queen laurel]

yeah, if Terra gets destroyed on anyway humanity is as good as dead

[plush mason]

yeah i know but im wondering what they will pull out of their asses so the imperium wins in the end

[queen laurel]

The custodies literally guarding a ton of ******** under the golden throne

They have something they can pull out of their *** in that world

[arctic talon]

Have the eldar help

[queen laurel]

has super weapons hidden there

[plush mason]

yes. more salt for the salt god

[arctic talon]

Let the eldar bail out humanity

[spare osprey]

love the time he mentions the men of iron, then has no fuckin clue what they are

[plush mason]

ohhhh and have the psytitans show back up somehow too

[arctic talon]

I love how everyone is confused about what the fuck they are lol

It’s such a good scene

[queen laurel]

Yeah no that's what I mean they will pull out the weapons that they rarely pull out just to **** ** the very strong enemy if they attack terra

[plush mason]

ngl a psytitan would be really strong against the nids

[queen laurel]

Can also be pretty weak remember that the tyranid has the shadow of the warp

[plush mason]

yeah but the psytitans are piloted by a blank and can amplify the blank's anti-warp stuff

[queen laurel]

Yeah so it really depends on how psychically powerful both side is

[plush mason]

so could just end up being an anti-synapse field

[queen laurel]

neourotyrants and things like that can also further boost the power of the shadow

[plush mason]

hell if blanks can effect the ork waaggg then they should be able to effect the synapse of the nids

[queen laurel]

yeah, I think that's fair

[nocturne crest]

So there are genestealers on Terra, but not on Mars?

[spare osprey]

yeah i'd assume there ain't many peeps for them to well

start a cult with

[nocturne crest]

I mean, the Custodes had to get involved.

[spare osprey]

i mean on mars

[crystal forum]

until nids can create bioforms from metal then mars is safe

[arctic talon]

Mars is honestly a shithole

Like people randomly go missing all the time

And the catacombs of mars are literally filled with murder machines and other horrors

To the point where armies sent to clear them out disappear

[nocturne crest]

Oh

[arctic talon]

Like

The whole army

Gone

[nocturne crest]

Did they ever send the custodes?

[arctic talon]

Why would they it would be a waste

Arkhan Land went down with a huge army

He never came back

[nocturne crest]

Oh.

Oh no.

[arctic talon]

No one survives the catacombs

And if they survive

It’s luck

There’s portions that are mapped out and secure

But it’s like 0.01% of the catacombs

Everything past that might as well be filled to the brim with horrifying murder machines

Oh also the rust wastes are also filled with mechanical abominations

A genestealer setting up on mars would have a miserable time

They’ll have to deal with the mechanicus and all the “native” horrifying things

[queen laurel]

sounds like a good place containing valuable technology

[arctic talon]

Yeah there’s tons of valuable tech down there

That’s why armies get sent in lol

It’s a smash and grab, kill anything that moves and grab whatever you can

There’s also most likely daemons down in the catacombs still lol

From the heresy

[winged laurel]

Angron vs Horus who wins ?

[plush mason]

in other words its a ready made setting for an extraction shooter :P

[arctic talon]

Yeah pretty much lol

[celest dome]

At which time ? Before Horus' death probably Horus anyway

[thick cedar]

has the eldars opinion changed since gulliman returned or is it about the same?

[queen laurel]

The eldar looks down on everyone, even though blue man leads the imperium, the eldar no matter what place, will always see themselves as superior

they have been perfected by the old ones, as such they see themselves as perfection Incarnate

[thick cedar]

Guess they didnt bother to implement empathy and love for life

[queen laurel]

Empathy and love of life has no use for a weapon that is designed to destroy a threat

[thick cedar]

true but if youre going to make a sentient bioweapon it mightve been prudent

[queen laurel]

The old ones made the orks

Need I say more?

[thick cedar]

thinking ahead isnt their strong suit

[queen laurel]

yeah you would have expected them to put a kill switch on that weapon

[thick cedar]

tbf maybe they did and losing the war meant the means to kill them is lost

[crystal forum]

i love the irony about the biggest repository of forgotten tech being mars itself

[arctic talon]

Humanity is helpful but also dangerous is still their opinion

Also humans dumb and inferior big suprise

The craftworld eldar are still dicks

[queen laurel]

I swear if i can go up to the highest ranking member and say, didn't you guys literally make a god because you were bored, i would die but their face would be priceless

[arctic talon]

Tbh they’d think you’re dumb for that as well because the craftworlds didn’t make it

They fucked off from eldar society before shit hit the fan

[crystal forum]

40k is just a big misunderstood hate piece about the irish

[arctic talon]

On the other hand you could ask them why they didn’t try to stop it

But craftworlders Ironicially aren’t at fault

[thick cedar]

didnt they try to?

but they were all like "yeah, okay, buddy"

[arctic talon]

Well among their number they did

And they sent warnings

But the eldar empire just thought they were weirdos and ignored them

[thick cedar]

mfw the hillbilly craftworlders were right

[arctic talon]

Real

The Amish and doomsday preppers were correct

If there’s anyone to blame it’s dark eldar nobility

Since they technically “inherited” the eldar empire lol

[thick cedar]

so dark eldar were all eldar that lived on worlds?

and the "normal" eldar were all craftworlders when slaanesh was born?

[arctic talon]

Dark Eldar were the Eldar of the Eldar empire that lived inside the webway

during and before the birth of slaanesh

The Craftworld Eldar saw the writing on the wall, decided they didn't like how society was going and just left a good bit before the birth of slaanesh

All the core planets of the Eldar empire got swallowed by the eye of terror lol

[thick cedar]

sucks to get sucked by the succ god

[normal light]

And now they are property of Chaos

[undone zodiac]

And slaneesh has already claimed souls of dark eldar. Except they just keep it from getting them by just torturing shit

[crystal forum]

just assembled my first terminator

i feel like a tech priest carefully cutting pieces to assemble master crafted armour

[storm jungle]

Okay so picture yourself as an eldar

would you legit try to help literal space-nazis with anything at all when they would never do the same to you and would rather see you get exterminated to the last woman and child instead

Guilliman has no alliance with eldar and never has, he just sometimes works together with a few castaway Eldar like Eldrad for a common goal, otherwise craftworlds are too distant culturally and mindset-wise from each other to usually ever unite against something, they aren't a single secular race.

[storm jungle]

And arrogance isn't that extreme

the issue is imagine chilling on a pleasure yacht but the mainland is filled with gorillas who want to smash you to paste

[green loom]

And when they DO help

They get betrayed

[storm jungle]

^

[green loom]

See: Vigilus

[storm jungle]

Eldar have every right to not help and trust the Imperium

this isn't warhammer fantasy where after a big battle the high elves and the empire shake hands and leave.

[queen laurel]

I swear the imperium is good at digging at its own grave

I'm still surprised that the sons of the emperor still haven't abandoned the empire

I mean for ***** sake if your people are so religious they can make a mortal man that is suffering in a golden chair a God you may as well abandon it

[terse flume]

a big feature of the imperium is the self contradictions, yeah

like, you're told i think literally the very first description: the empire is factually too large to govern

and has been since the DAOT, which says something

it's too big and as such it needs to overuse warp to maintain itself, and that contradiction directly lead to every misery it has inflicted on the stars

[queen laurel]

yeah having an extremely large population it's one of its strong suits because it has a lot of people to fight for it but also a lot of people to try to maintain happy

And let's just be honest a lot of imperial nobles are kind of shits

The average life of a citizen is either average or the most horrendous thing you have ever seen

[terse flume]

there's no reason for a central polity, and there wasn't one until the great crusade. like not even just in terms of population, the empire is too big from one side to the other, geographically (interstellarly?). warp goes down and within like, 100 years what half of all human colonies decay to literal cavemen?

a sensible distribution would see individual sectors have some sort of direct and snappy governance, will never happen with the empire

a sane logistics plan wouldn't expand so far beyond their borders to make it so you have to go french kiss a demon or whole planets starve to death, but that would never happen with the empire

well before you have external threats, of which there are plenty, the empire is by far it's own worst enemy, and like, u can tell that in part cause they took their christ and nailed him to a chair to make a really good lighthouse rather than try to address their technological shortcomings

i suspect strongly the empire kills more humans than any other force in the universe and it's not close

[queen laurel]

Humans are extremely varied by nature and so, uniting them all in one banner where all of them can live and accept each other is a ambitious wish

And it doesn't really matter no matter what you do not everyone will have equal life

[coarse pumice]

Nastase straight out says that humans and even orks aren’t stupid, just unsophisticated

[storm jungle]

Man whoever fucking wrote his bits was so bad

[tawdry escarp]

The only human faction that hasn't fucked over the Eldar are the Grey Knights

And the current active Primarchs haven't abandoned the Imperium because they still believe in the Dream that was Rome, so to speak

[terse flume]

also weren't orkz originally nazi coded

or, had explicitly nazi coded models? like in a ww2 sense not like, in an ideological sense

[storm jungle]

Not the orks the uhh

Stormboyz

fittingly

[queen laurel]

yeah

[storm jungle]

"So Stormboyz were named that because they storm places with their rocketpacks right?"

me:

💀

[queen laurel]

That's the only Nazi thing on them really

[tawdry escarp]

They wore Stahlhelms and whatnot

[storm jungle]

Yeah thats it

the ork glyph for "orky" uh

was also a swastika

Ghaz's warbanner also had one

[terse flume]

the lightning bolt is one but not both of the SS logo i think

[storm jungle]

Yeah it was not subtle lol

idk why they did this with the orks admittedly

when the biggest nazis in the setting is the Imperium

[terse flume]

wargames innit, world war 2 in space was always a big appeal

[tawdry escarp]

Orks bad and Nazis bad

[terse flume]

a group of people very comfortable with it for obvious reasons

[queen laurel]

old games workshop was not the most subtle

[tawdry escarp]

So make ork Nazis

[storm jungle]

Lmao STOP

god the pygmies

[queen laurel]

Oh yeah Dilara I have a question, are black Dragon bone blades retractable

[storm jungle]

Im pretty sure they cant

but its been awhile

[celest dome]

These forearm blades can be retracted into the Claw's arm, then extended at will

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Black_Dragons

[queen laurel]

fuck yeah tarkatan space marines

[green loom]

I wonder if they're kitbashable with Tyranid blades

[queen laurel]

they can be more than three metres tall, so you can try finding the blade that would fit on the forearm or maybe make a custom one big enough

[thick cedar]

Does coffee still exist in the imperium

[crystal forum]

what really makes it fucked up for me is that this was made in the late 80's or 90's

this is well past the era of being unknowingly racist

[terse flume]

the entire rpg/tabletop industry has a LOT of dodgy stuff in that period

i mean white wolf was putting out some vile stuff into the 90s

er 00s rather

[spare osprey]

Lion’s view on the whole thing is nice at least.

Just a good ol quest

[celest dome]

There's Tanna.

[crystal forum]

coffee does exist

guardsmen drink a ton of it

especially tankers apparently

if you look at the guardsman tanker uniform in game it even says so

[tawdry escarp]

It's called recaff

But it's just coffee with a sci fi name

[crystal forum]

i'd hazard to guess it's not technically coffee because it doesn't use coffee beans

[tawdry escarp]

It's like how Amesec is just a dark liquor like whiskey or bourbon

[crystal forum]

i thought it was wine

[tawdry escarp]

Recaff is synthetic coffee essentially

[celest dome]

Amasec is s broad range of alcohol

[crystal forum]

wiki and lexicanum says it's wine or distilled from wine yet lexicanum says it's also made from grain

well that's confusing

[tawdry escarp]

The real question is if they still have pizza

[crystal forum]

food is a very under represented topic in 40k

[tawdry escarp]

There's the whole corpse starch meme

[crystal forum]

it's funny though because corpse starch is far from being the only food source

[tawdry escarp]

The other thing mentioned alot is Grox

[crystal forum]

entire worlds serve as agricultural fields yet people seem to think the imperium only eats corpses

im actually surprised that guardsmen dont smoke more

maybe GW don't want models using real world drugs

[tawdry escarp]

Drugs are usually a gateway to Chaos

[crystal forum]

and remember kids when you do drugs you go to chaos when you die
-mario

[tawdry escarp]

I'm sure more than a few guardsman have fallen to Khorne from overusing combat stims

[crystal forum]

i dont think regular guardsmen get combat stims

[tawdry escarp]

That's another meme that the IG isn't well equipped

Penal legions might get the short end of the stick but legitimate Regiments are armed to the teeth

They get access to what they need to defeat the enemy

[terse flume]

right it's like, situations where things are super desperate, like necromunda, or situations where you can't waste calories, like space ships with whole cities worth of war band on it

is it used routinely? i don't think someone on an agri world would routinely eat corpse starch

presumably they'd just get the nutrients from bodies the old fashioned way

[thick cedar]

are psyker powers affected by the emotional state of the caster?

[celest dome]

Yes

[arctic talon]

It’s like one of the only supplies salvar Chem dogs get lol

[celest dome]

Penal Regiments often due

And the Chem Dogs started as one iirc

[arctic talon]

Just because they’re from a penal world doesn’t make them a penal regiment lul

Which is really funny

[storm jungle]

Yeah penal legions as the name implies are usually there to be punished and used as literal cannon-fodder.

Usually also sent to die by the thousands lol

[crystal forum]

i guess it can depend on the regiment and what their beliefs are

[arctic talon]

True

[crystal forum]

like i dont see vostroyans doing black tar heroine

[green loom]

We're effectively penal soldiers in game

[celest dome]

Well...
Seeing on what the Vostroyan and the Valhallan are based on...

[storm jungle]

Its nothing hardcore but guard definitely do drugs

soldiers usually do anything to take their minds off of war at times

we see in books like Traitor Rock and Longshot that they trade cigs and other stuff as currency or favors too

[terse flume]

like if you can get high humans do it and most evidence suggests this is true of most mammals at least

this has been true forever it would be true in the grim darkness of the future

[crystal forum]

if you're implying that soviets used combat drugs then you're (probably) wrong

it's like the only major power during the war that has the least evidence of combat drug usage

[terse flume]

Gladstones - Rocks that are slightly psyk-reactive. They can be held in the users palm of either hand, or held under the tongue. They have been documented to provide a sense of well-being (described as a warm, blissful sensation) and sublime for days, possibly weeks on a single use. However, as they alter the users state of mind, the Imperium has deemed them illegal. They are usually a pale stone (commonly yellowish in color), of small form, smooth sided, rounded and warm to the touch. They are mined on distant outworlds and are found to be extremely popular in twist clubs and lounges.

weeklong molly rocks

Grinweed - Little is known about Grinweed except that it makes the user lose all sense of reality. The name "grinweed" originates from the fact that it is known to make the user "grin" upon ingestion. It takes the form of a plant, of unknown origin, that is reputably either made into a tea, or smoked much like lho-leaf.

literally weed

[celest dome]

Was mostly on the fact that Russian have an epidemic use of drug

[crystal forum]

cigs are a morale thing really. it's not like they're meant to boost combat performance so it's hardly a combat drug

[storm jungle]

Its not really a morale thing

its both currency and just taking your mind off stuff

and like anything else you can do with cigs i guess

and who tf said cigarettes are combat drugs

[crystal forum]

the conversation was about normal guardsmen using combat drugs

[storm jungle]

I know, im just mentioning cigs as a side topic

guard dont use combat drugs en-masse but some still do here and there.

[crystal forum]

was looking up the difference between gravis armour and terminator armour. Apparently some people think terminator armour has a forcefield

like what? since when

[forest orbit]

pretty sure since never

[crystal forum]

i've looked it up and it feels like some sort of old belief that carried over from older versions of tabletop

[forest orbit]

yeah no

just dumb theories

an incel like me should know

[crystal forum]

i can't find any source saying indomitus pattern terminator armour has shields

[forest orbit]

because there isn't any

[crystal forum]

40k lore is weird

[forest orbit]

understatement of the century

[arctic talon]

It’s just very thicc

[storm jungle]

Very wholesome excerpt

[nocturne crest]

So here's a question, but can the Tyranids invade the eye of terror?

[storm jungle]

No and they have no reason to.

The Eye of Terror is an endless nightmare realm which serves no purpose to them.

[nocturne crest]

Aren't there worlds in the eye?

[near wasp]

There are

But the biomass they get from it probably wouldnt be worth it

[storm jungle]

Yeah like why go there when you got planets in realspace already

[nocturne crest]

So it would technically be the safest place from the Tyranids in that case, but you would still need to deal with the chaotic shit.

[winter vessel]

I thought something worse was going to happen to him at this portion of the text.

[storm jungle]

Nah this is just him contemplating suicide knowing Tyranids are possibly going to kill everything.

[winter vessel]

Something about excerpts detailing accounts of anyone in the Imperium about the Tyranids and how absolutely FUBAR the situation is I find hilarious. Like, I'm an Imperial Guard fan, so by extension the Imperium of Man. As much as like to see my guys gaining some victories, reading about hardened soldiers, commissars, inquisitors, officials, or even techpriests, who know they're gonna get their S kicked in by the 'Nids is funny.

[storm jungle]

At the end of the day they are still human no matter how tough they act, nobody usually wants to horrifically die in some manner

[winter vessel]

e.g: text from the book "The Last Hunt".

[storm jungle]

the guy that jumped into the acid to kill himself was the smartest person in that bridge.

[winter vessel]

It really was "No my good sir, I go out on my own." and dove for that stream of acid.

[storm jungle]

The other guy that got slowly eaten by the bio-maggots not so much

that part of the book legit borders on massive IRL phobias

[winter vessel]

The grotesque level of detail that went into it. The last time I felt that sensation was reading about the I.W's special project on that Daemon World.

[storm jungle]

Yeah its genuinely great, would never read again

[tough haven]

It’s almost as if humanity can’t stand against the tyranids alone

But no party would agree to the alternative so let’s see how this works out for em

[echo vault]

The one of a ship being dissolved by tyranids is so scary

[normal light]

Just convert to Chaos

[frosty stag]

cough cough join nurgle we got free health care cough cough

[normal light]

Chaos Undivided Enjoyer

[languid salmon]

Until hivefleet Kronos shows up

[frosty stag]

Hi sawrm lord

Hows the biomass today

[pine wedge]

based

[frosty stag]

Hi hank (in a different chat so no cooldown)

[pine wedge]

no that doesn't count

[frosty stag]

):<

Ok fine

[frosty stag]

How long is the cooldown

[pine wedge]

as long as I deem appropriate

[frosty stag]

Fair enough

[normal light]

We welcome you into the Eye of Terror*

[crystal forum]

lmao

i was wondering why so many plasma pistol models have bionic arms

[queen laurel]

I thought it was pretty obvious to be honest

[crystal forum]

apparently it's intentional. It shows that plasma users tend to lose limbs

[queen laurel]

Plasma weapons are known to be very dangerous

[queen laurel]

I'd say it's worth it though the power to blast open through a tank at the palm of your hand

[spare osprey]

One comes to mind that literally kills the user over time since its radiation shield is so low.

[queen laurel]

Of course it's radiation shielding is not the best

[spare osprey]

Found it

Plasma burner

[queen laurel]

is that supposed to be a flame thrower, instead of fire it's plasma

[spare osprey]

Yup

Plasma flamer

[queen laurel]

can't wait for the zealots to explode

[spare osprey]

Has a heavy version too

Plasma incinerator

[queen laurel]

ork burna boyz looking for that extra hot fire

[spare osprey]

There’s a moment in a story

The gun gets hit on the coils

Dude literally turns into a mini Star

Not even ashes are left

I think the radiation is so bad a marine has to have 1 of 2 things done after a few decades

Either replace most of his body with robotics or be put in a dread

[queen laurel]

this reminds me of Kaptin badrukk's shoota

A lead-lined greatcoat protects Badrukk from the deadly radiation generated by his most beloved weapon, Da Rippa, a Shoota so dangerous that merely standing near it when it is fired is essentially a death sentence by radiation poisoning. The weapon once belonged to the Ogryn bodyguard of an Imperial Sub-sector Governor and the Kaptin has modified it to fire unstable plasma canisters instead of high-calibre slugs so that each detonates with all the heat and radioactive force of a small star

• warhammer 40k wiki

He has to wear a lead lined coat to not kill himself

[spare osprey]

Damm

[queen laurel]

oh yeah

can i ask a question

[spare osprey]

Ye

[queen laurel]

i made a new hive fleet, it's super generic but I want to know what you think

[spare osprey]

Shoot

[queen laurel]

Alright here's the background
Hivefleet Bakunawa - The Rampaging Brutes of Molduga

Amidst the countless horrors and abominations that roam the galaxy, Hivefleet Bakunawa stands as an unrelenting force of destruction and carnage. Originating from the deepest reaches of the void, this nightmarish Tyranid swarm entered the galaxy with a singular purpose: to consume, conquer, and leave nothing in its wake but desolation and horror. Having terrorized the sector of Molduga, Hivefleet Bakunawa has earned a notorious reputation as a relentless and unyielding menace.

Origins and Suspected Connection to Hive Fleet Behemoth:

While the true origins of Hivefleet Bakunawa remain shrouded in mystery, many Imperial scholars and xenos experts speculate that it may be a splinter fleet of the infamous Hive Fleet Behemoth, which ravaged the galaxy in ages past. The similarities in their savage tactics and overwhelming force suggest a possible connection as if Hivefleet Bakunawa inherited the legacy of its forebear's relentless appetite for destruction

[spare osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/nod-kermit-nod-nodding-gif-24624072

[queen laurel]

heres the next part

Physical Characteristics:
Hivefleet Bakunawa's Tyranid bioforms possess a striking and ominous appearance. Their cyan-colored skin serves as an eerie contrast to the stark white carapaces that encase their powerful bodies. These fearsome creatures are further accentuated by their weapon symbiotes, which take on a chilling blue hue. The crimson-red eyes of these bioforms peer out from the depths of their nightmarish visages, a menacing sign of their relentless hunger and predatory nature.

Warrior Physiology:
The Tyranids of Hivefleet Bakunawa are renowned for their muscular physique and robust muscle fibers. Even the lowly gaunts within this hive fleet are known to possess astonishing strength, capable of smashing through reinforced metal doors with alarming ease. Their physical prowess is such that they can stagger even the mighty Space Marines, sending shockwaves through the ranks of their adversaries.

[spare osprey]

Steroid rave nids

[queen laurel]

yeah that's what makes them them

Alright for the last part

[spare osprey]

Yup yup

[queen laurel]

Way of War:
Hivefleet Bakunawa's preferred mode of warfare is a brutal and direct assault. They act as unrelenting battering rams, crashing through enemy defenses with overwhelming strength and ferocity. No obstacle is too great, no fortress too fortified to withstand their relentless onslaught. The very ground trembles beneath their relentless advance as they relentlessly pursue their prey.

While they favor raw physical might, Hivefleet Bakunawa does not neglect the subtler aspects of warfare. They employ psychic bioforms, with a particular fondness for the Maleceptor strain. These formidable creatures channel their psychic energies to unleash devastating attacks, bending the minds of their foes and sowing discord among the enemy ranks.

That is all

[spare osprey]

Nice damn start

I like the idea

[queen laurel]

Yeah they prefer to Brute force their way through

I'm going to make a hive tyrant for this

[spare osprey]

Noice

[queen laurel]

and of course i'm going to make it absolutely have maximum steroid intakes

[queen laurel]

also fun fact they are named after The Bakunawa

a serpent-like dragon in Philippine mythology

one of my favorite creatures in my country's mythology

[spare osprey]

Neat

Love nid fleet names

[queen laurel]

so Tales about the Bakunawa say that it is the cause of eclipses. During ancient times, Pre-colonial Cebuanos believed that their supreme god, Bathala(could also be Kaptan, the Visayan counterpart of Bathala), created 7 moons to light up the sky. The Bakunawa, amazed by their beauty, would rise from the ocean and swallow the moons whole,

And is often blamed for the cause of eclipses, earthquakes, rains, and wind.

So it's a perfect name

[spare osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/nod-kermit-nod-nodding-gif-24624072

Love cultural stories

[queen laurel]

Thanks for listening I'm gonna go now, have a good day

[spare osprey]

You too dude

[dull talon]

If you get an arm implant or an additional head from someone, and that person was pretty much a chaos worshipper of let's say nurgle, and you decided you hate sewer water so you want to worship tzeentch, will you be a chaos worshipper of which is stronger influence or will your arm be nurgle and the rest tzeetnch 🤔

[crystal forum]

these kinds of questions are what this channel is for

[storm jungle]

Whichever god's influence is the strongest changes you body and soul mutation wise.

[terse flume]

say you're fighting a formerly loyalist faction

you kill someone but get their head away, and it has a super swanky eye implant

could you take it to an admech and be like, lets not waste this, implant me up

are implants like guns, and are constantly reused by fresh troops, or are they non-reusable

[idle phoenix]

Wait if we're on a black ship, does that mean that there's a possibility we have a Silent Sister on board too? In game, I mean

[storm jungle]

We aren't on a black ship

its a rogue trader vessel

[terse flume]

yeah the lass on the opening video is the capt right

[storm jungle]

ye shes the rogue trader thats gonna appear in some future missions

Janfon dug up some introductory voicelines for her awhile ago

Brahms was her name

[queen laurel]

Why is her name close to that of the cow from fallout

[terse flume]

minor character in tng

[storm jungle]

because its a real name

so coincidence