40k-lore-chat

[crystal forum]

ingrained in my mind

that's just a radio song though

[celest dome]

Yeah, but it's not as bad as others

Payday 2 has some banger music

[crystal forum]

lol this trailer is literally just a simon and garfunkle song https://youtu.be/wy8LRlS1SCc?si=0djVU03k5X85_1VC

[celest dome]

But all were made for the game

[crystal forum]

that's soundtrack though

wait i need to look up payday 2 trailer

oh it's literally just razormind

[green loom]

Banger though

[celest dome]

ye

[crystal forum]

yes i know the names of the original soundtrack songs

[arctic talon]

Lol

Payday 3 has a nice sound track

It’s very distinct from 2’s

[celest dome]

Heist at Alepo or what ever it was called was great

[green loom]

Also the uhh

Main witcher 3 track

[celest dome]

Ye, true that

[crystal forum]

isn't the original music guy gone though?

[arctic talon]

There better be a thermal drill in payday 3 as a joke objective

[arctic talon]

He is but the new guy is just as good imo

He did the final couple tracks for payday 2

[crystal forum]

that's because its soundtrack was made by the actual artist in the mission lol

[celest dome]

Wait really, that's funny

[arctic talon]

Lol

It’s weird not hearing Bain’s voice in payday 3 stuff

[celest dome]

Hi Fi Rush had outside music but it worked seamlessly

[arctic talon]

It’s a rythm game tbf

[celest dome]

Isn't he ||dead||

[arctic talon]

If the music didn’t work with it well that would be weird

[crystal forum]

a couple of the songs were made by le castle vania https://youtu.be/cyhT0qwNe-4?si=80mr3jWMmC_e8IXA

[green loom]

God I dream to attend one of those big reveal events some day

[arctic talon]

||he’s the president of the United States lol||

[green loom]

You mean John de Lancie?

[arctic talon]

Also the cop AI looks a lot smarter in 3

Compared to 1 and 2

[crystal forum]

https://youtu.be/LvwtuRUM5oU?si=4sSZiBIJedkbUJRk

the music guy for payday 2 was really cool

[celest dome]

Did he do all of them ?

[arctic talon]

He did most of the tracks

[crystal forum]

he worked for overkill as their music guy for a while but he left in 2016 and only worked for them as a freelancer after

all the original soundtrack is him

some songs had guest musicians

like those le castle vania songs

i think what's amazing about simon viklund is how he can adapt to music genres

[celest dome]

Castlevania had good music in their old game

[crystal forum]

no le castle vania is another music guy lol

[celest dome]

Oh no just saying the Castlevania games had good music iirc

[crystal forum]

this is still my favorite song in payday 2. it introduced me to synthwave https://youtu.be/xIf7sIQ73ok?si=iCWSQz-Ey3GNhYpx

this and hot pursuit which really go together well. they were added with the hotline miami DLC

it's insane to me how well he could make songs that were in a genre he never worked in before

[celest dome]

Are you playing Bg3 ? Cause there is a boss fight song that is just the greatest

[crystal forum]

havent been able to touch it because i'm still nowhere near my PC

[green loom]

I'm waiting for Dilara to come back randomly and go

[crystal forum]

omg i just remembered this trailer for the flamethrower DLC https://youtu.be/AsEigjyLKHo?si=5yw03c-8tYqhAhiG

live action payday 2 used to be a thing lol

i abused the shit out of the flamethrower when it came out lol

[celest dome]

It wasn't half bad tbh

[arctic talon]

Simon vikmund also isn’t the voice for the cloaker in 3

Which feels weird

[crystal forum]

that video with giancarlo is amazing

i totally butchered his name

wait no i actually typed it correctly

https://youtu.be/2rOKmclX0zw?si=0FAaZVurejGUK-mJ

im trying so hard to not just know him as the breaking bad guy even though all his roles involve him playing Gus lol

so many memories

also ron pearlman

proving he'll play any role

[arctic talon]

I’m glad the dozer kept the same VA between all 3 payday games so far

[crystal forum]

i wouldn't even notice if the VA changed

[arctic talon]

Lmfao the cops can friendly fire each other

With certain attacks

The cloaker has lines for getting gassed and flash banged by friendliest

[crystal forum]

for payday 2?

[arctic talon]

No for 3

The grenadier has some sort of poison grenade along with the flashes

[crystal forum]

i hope the game will take itself seriously again

[arctic talon]

There’s a lot more serious lines in 3

But it has like 1 or 2 joke lines

Grenadier has a Geneva convention joke

[crystal forum]

i have very low expectations about the DLC situation though

and if they'll allow modding like before

[arctic talon]

Tbh

The dlc is prolly gona be like 2

Where it’s a trillion dlcs

[crystal forum]

yup

DLC's eventually ruined the game

overkill got greedy

kept adding stupid overpowered guns and skill trees

[scenic bolt]

and theyve said their monetization strat is basically the same for 3 as it was in 2

with a battlepass added on top

[celest dome]

Hopefully they don't have to go back to PD2 and make even more dlcs

[crystal forum]

you've gotta be kidding me

im one of those people who remembers when they promised they'll never add an item market

[celest dome]

I have a screenshot of something about Pay to speed exp and stuff but I honestly don't remember where I found it from

[scenic bolt]

that tracks

[crystal forum]

that'll really be the deal breaker for me. so much effort put into infamy levels in 2 only to be beat by a level 25 modder

you don't add a prestige point system then let anybody take a detour around it. it's straight up insulting

you have no god damn idea how much effort i had to put into getting the difficulty masks

[crystal forum]

i got OVERDRILL

do you know what overdrill is

you have to put a drill

on a secret vault

and wait 2000 seconds

that's 30 minutes

[scenic bolt]

I mean the embracer CEO said in their letter to investors post-failed Saudi deal that we're too investment heavy, we need to generate as much cashflow as we can from what we got

[crystal forum]

it gave you a free item box for the market. the market was just released too

i got a 3 cent skin for the bow and arrow because the payday2 market is worthless

[crystal forum]

it actually physically sickens me how greedy overkill is

it's rare i get this sort of feeling

i also got the same feeling for heroes and generals

[scenic bolt]

oh yea the other thing that rankled me is on their FAQ they said they'll be introducing microtransactions steadily post-launch (ie: after the reviews)

[storm jungle]

cant be an Overkill game without it lmao

[gloomy citrus]

The Changer has blessed SM2.

Praise him, for he'll shit on you praise you and your schemes.

[versed ledge]

Why do chaos always get the more fun toys

Modified and stronger lasguns for renegade guard units

Yet they always get killed so easily

[gloomy citrus]

Traitor guardsmen are still guardsmen.

[celest dome]

You mean in DT?

[versed ledge]

In general

Also Dark Tide too

Sure they don't have the same logistical capacity as they would have when they were loyal, but they aren't constrained by the same laws anymore

Meaning they could enhance their weapons with what ever the warp does

[round cedar]

if chaos didnt have cool stuff the imperium didnt, no one would join em

[versed ledge]

That, also there a number of good reason not to join chaos too - quality of life, is a real good one

[pliant summit]

I prefer World Eaters, Thousand Sons are just... ye...

[round cedar]

quality of life sucks in the imperium too. if you join chaos and still have a terrible life, at least you tried something different lol

[versed ledge]

Still a slave, but the question is who's the crueler master?

Chaos or the Imperium

At least with Slaanesh, one gets to enjoy the lash...or being ravished from behind very roughly

[green loom]

To quote guilliman

What reason does a wretch have to deny hell if he already dwells in it?

[spare osprey]

i enjoy luther's look on chaos

Let me tell you about corruption, for I can swear there is no other soul in this universe that has seen it the same way as these eyes. From within. And yet now I have been freed. Haven't I? Maybe not. Maybe even this story is a part of the lies woven by my deeds. I cannot tell for I am within it, and no other can gainsay me for they have not lived the life I have. There is but one witness and it is a narrator most unreliable. That is the universal truth of Chaos. Yes, Chaos. The force of the warp that has many names, all of them forbidden on the lips of man and woman. It does not corrupt. We corrupt ourselves in its service. That is why we cannot speak of it. To know is to be tempted. If I put a gun in your hand and tell you not to use it, to fire one shot is to be damned forever, and then release an Anterion tiger into the room, who is to blame for your downfall? Me, or you? Maybe the tiger, though it also cannot be other than what it is.

it's a bit more like

a fence sitter for lack of a better term

[nocturne crest]

What's Luther been up to nowdays?

[green loom]

Luthering around

Also reveals in 30 mins gamers

[nocturne crest]

We got a betting board?

[spare osprey]

just sorta

chillin

[spare osprey]

gonna be all the space marine stuff that woulda been revealed had they won ogrham

ardboyz for sigmar

deredeo and mk3 for HH with maybe rogal dorn or sangy

and i think something tomb kings for old world

[green loom]

Flesh eaters courts for AOS also

And maybe a pegasus knight for Ow

[spare osprey]

timer on the website was wrong it seems

bout another half hour

[green loom]

They're usually late apparently

[nocturne crest]

Furibundus?

[spare osprey]

you see the question too?

[nocturne crest]

I did.

[spare osprey]

i went "that's gotta fuckin be something"

you don't just mention the furibundus

[crimson kayak]

Assault marines are back on the menu boys

[nocturne crest]

Chance the same case will be made for scouts and land speeder?

[arctic talon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/713403094708387841/1146617908626198590/image.png

Klonk

My beloved

[spare osprey]

well

fuck me

[green loom]

God

DAMN

What a reveal

[storm jungle]

30k

Death

[green loom]

Did you enjoy the discord mod team for underworlds?

[spare osprey]

bro someone in the twitch chat asked if it was fuckin lizzo

[crystal forum]

wow fulgrim

[arctic talon]

He'll be in 40k eventually

[nocturne crest]

But will Fulgrim be more transcend?

[crystal forum]

who cares honestly

it's fulgrim

[arctic talon]

people like him

[rose thorn]

oh sorry auto bot

IM GONNA SCREAM

did

did the yremake the chapter company into a priamris version

i mean

what ever its called

also primaris scouts lajm

[green loom]

Yeah

[rose thorn]

thats really funny

welp

i wonder what hrous heresy chapter i should make my first born itno

[green loom]

These new kits are fkn loaded

[rose thorn]

yea lmao these ball

i really like thetstern guard

[arctic talon]

The marine kits will fund more updates for unpopular factions

As is tradition

[near wasp]

Those look dope might have to get some of them

[storm jungle]

I do.

Its a cool mini lmao

[crystal forum]

smh

ot even noticing my cool new pfp

[storm jungle]

thats what you get nerd

[crystal forum]

wow

[storm jungle]

[spare osprey]

Miasman Redcowls are better anyways

[rose thorn]

fulgrim my belvoed

idk what chapter i would do for horus heresy

maybe death guard?

my partner likes them

[arctic talon]

Be based and do Black shields so you can homebrew

Actually maybe not

They might be getting their knees blown off by GW

[storm jungle]

Lmao

shed time

[arctic talon]

They already ate shit in HH1.0

And partially ate shit with their mini update in 2.0

[rose thorn]

HAHAAH

[storm jungle]

uh oh

stinky

[arctic talon]

Death guard moment

[winter vessel]

I did the Primarch version of this on a buzzfeed quiz. I think I got Khan last I remembered.

[crystal forum]

i will only accept valhallan

[crystal forum]

the first person to compliment my pfp gets a month of nitro

[queen laurel]

that looks amazing

[frosty stag]

I got salamanders

Which thinking about it now

Idk if thats right

[winter vessel]

You got a link for this?

[frosty stag]

Uhhh

One sec

[frosty stag]

https://thehorusheresy.com/

[winter vessel]

Cool, never could find the website for this.

[frosty stag]

Its weird

You gotta go through like 3 different websites

[winter vessel]

Alright “Magic Pain Glove” time

[crisp heath]

I got Luna Wolves when I took it

I just retook it and got White Scars 🥴

[echo vault]

I got emp children

[storm jungle]

two furries in a pot

[queen laurel]

Thousand sons

Do i look like the type to cast magic or something

I mean if throwing my hands like a giant rocket ie magic then i guess that works

[odd palm]

White Scar slander?

Smh

[celest dome]

I got Alpha Legion

[green loom]

Well that fits

[crisp heath]

Honestly this quiz reminds me of how in Pottermore I wanted Slytherin but got put in Ravenclaw

"I wanted Night Lords but I got put in White Scars"

What's the Hufflepuff of Space Marines

[pine wedge]

salamanders

[crisp heath]

Ok so first off we need to settle: is Hufflepuff kind, stupid, or miscelleanous?

[celest dome]

Yes

[undone zodiac]

I got emperors children and shuddered with disgust

[pine wedge]

power of friendship, loyalty, hard work

based

[green loom]

Knights Knights Knights Knights

[celest cedar]

Can I get assigned t Alpharius legion

[wooden ridge]

Ooof

Even though I chose that humanity must be freed from ignorance

[storm jungle]

certified Word Bearer Moment

[wooden ridge]

What? Why..

[wooden ridge]

Which legion did the site give you?

[storm jungle]

Uhhhhh I forgor 💀

[storm jungle]

W.B use the "we will free mankind from ignorance" a lot

its very popular as they burn billions on pyres or sacrifice them to daemons

[green loom]

I'm betting you got Night Lords

[queen laurel]

You know what

Definitely

[green loom]

Is this a specific corsair character?

[storm jungle]

nah just a random

[shadow plover]

Seems to be Ku'loth

[storm jungle]

Ah yes

up there with such legends as

[shadow plover]

"Emperor's BAWLZ"

• Ciaphas Cain, Lord Comissar

[storm jungle]

[wooden ridge]

I asked my friend who doesn't know anything about the universe to pass the test and he got Night Lords

Should I stop communicating with him?

[queen laurel]

I don't know man, seems like a good guy to me

[shadow plover]

Hey it's literally what he keeps spouting every book and the narrator pronounces it like that

[pine wedge]

imagine being a fucking space marine and then specializing in SIEGES

idiots have only themselves to blame if you ask me

[celest dome]

And doing sieges in the worst way possible, like both Imperial Fist and Death Guard have better philosophies about sieges

[crystal forum]

i got the space marine equivalent of valhalla

which is weird because i chose loyalty

[near wasp]

when i took the test i got ultramarines

[round cedar]

ayyyy they got the firstborn helmets

nice

[spare osprey]

Are you guys just finding the HH legion test?

Think I got the DA back when I did it

[queen laurel]

I got salamanders on the first try

Second was thousand sons

[spare osprey]

Fun times

[crystal forum]

i thought the test would be like a buzzfeed quiz

"what's your zodiac sign"

ultramarines are scorpio fr fr

[covert kiln]

Hell yeah, Got Space Wolves.

[terse flume]

lol, god i forgot

i think i am remembering this right

the reason there are a bunch of forge worlds that are like, age of technology ish age, even though that would predate remotely safe warp travel

is that the mechanicum just like, shat out as many ships as they could, crewed them and more or less fired them at random at the universe in the warp, hoping some of them would hit somewhere good

[gloomy citrus]

As always.

[covert kiln]

Second or third fav legion.

I like the World Eaters too.

My choices were just ethical enough to dodge World Eaters.

Iron Warriors have a really cool schtick though. I like all of the stuff I've read with them in it.

Huh, take that back. I dodged the Night Lords.

[spare osprey]

DA, NL, SW

Top 3 legions

[covert kiln]

Space Wolves, World Eaters and Iron Warriors for me. Night Lords are nifty, and I guess the test gave them to me?

[crystal forum]

there were calm times during the warp storms of the age of strife. they tried their best to send ships during the best conditions

[covert kiln]

Really wish the Chain Axe was better in DT. It'd e my fav weapon instead of the eviscerator

I guess it's good, but it feels janky.

[crystal forum]

mars was basically the last vestige of the human empire of the age of tech. if they wanted to survive they had to make sure they had other planets to provide supplies once the warp storms ended

[nocturne crest]

Do you think the Carcharodons would give the Ashen Claws some primaris tech in an exchange of goods?

[versed ledge]

Do you guys think kroots or tyranids are edible?

Or even orks? I mean orks are just mushrooms, so they gotta be edible, maybe the squigs

[crystal forum]

you're out of your mind if you want to try eating a nid

[crystal forum]

dont quote me on this but i think you can eat ork and it tastes like mushrooms

[arctic talon]

Kroot are edible

Orks are also edible

Tyranids are do not eat

[versed ledge]

Improvised field rations

[arctic talon]

You will literally die

If you eat a tyranid

The kroot don’t touch them either

[crystal forum]

some nids might be edible but you literally have no way of knowing if the fleet gave them AIDS blood

[versed ledge]

Damn...if the kroots don't eat them, then I guess it's no go

[celest dome]

Tyranids will kill you, but Kroot would be alright unless they got shaped into being Poisonus or something

[arctic talon]

Nid blood is usually toxic

[arctic talon]

Yeah this

Kroot would prolly be really tough though

[crystal forum]

there's probably some edible parts that can't be made toxic for the organism to function

[arctic talon]

They’re mostly muscle

[arctic talon]

True

[crystal forum]

like how puffer fish are mostly toxic but edible

[versed ledge]

So you can eat orks, that means nobs would be more meatier

[versed ledge]

Hmm...so nid sashimi then

[crystal forum]

it's all fungus though

so... chewier mushroom?

[celest dome]

Nids have Micro Nids in them, they aren't poisonus per say

[versed ledge]

More like chicken of the woods then...

But would an ork taste like chicken

[crystal forum]

they also smell really bad so it wont be pleasant

and you'll probably have to remove a lot of parasites

[versed ledge]

Damn....so what about daemons? Like those dog like warp beasts

[arctic talon]

Technically pufferfish aren’t naturally toxic

[arctic talon]

Not real flesh

Nothing to eat

[versed ledge]

Darn...

[crystal forum]

i'm willing to bet tau taste like beef

[versed ledge]

So kroots, orks (with good prepping), nid (with skilled prepping like fugu), are edible and doable

[versed ledge]

Probably like veal to humanlike

[crystal forum]

well they got the hoofs

[versed ledge]

Ah, true

[arctic talon]

They’re some sort of bovine equivalent

In a way

[crystal forum]

now what would eldar taste like

[celest dome]

Well, for Nids it's cases of bacterias and viruses, so I don't think any amount of skill would make it edible

[crystal forum]

would eating eldar be considered cannibalism

[versed ledge]

Darn, and here I thought nid gumbo was doable

[celest dome]

You can drink their Ichor

[celest dome]

No, other species

[crystal forum]

but they look so human

[celest dome]

Doesn't change that they aren't

[crystal forum]

like if you ate a neanderthal it would still not be human

but it feels wrong

[versed ledge]

And apparently have a compatible reproductive system to accommodate human seed

[celest dome]

You do know Neanderthal were human, do you ?

[crystal forum]

i dont actually

[versed ledge]

So no dice, they're just too human

[celest dome]

Well now you do

[crystal forum]

i thought they were a different species

[arctic talon]

Prolly similar to human flesh

Eating an eldar wouldn’t be cannibalism

Since they aren’t human

You’d just be eating something sapient

I’d assume eldar flesh is tough because of their muscle structure

[crystal forum]

would it be moral in 40k for an imperial to eat eldar flesh

[arctic talon]

Yes they’re inferior beings

To the imperium

They deserve death

[crystal forum]

what about abhumans

[arctic talon]

It depends

World to world

[versed ledge]

They aren't human, but too similar, so there could be a risk of prions too, not accounting psionic ability

[celest dome]

In theory if you kill a Daemon in the right way via a ritual you should be able to harvest the meat

[crystal forum]

aaa now we're in the tricky area

[arctic talon]

But some places really don’t like some abhumans

Like the hive in warhammer crime

With the uh voidborn lynching incident

[celest dome]

And the Beastmen being declared Mutant not so long ago

[versed ledge]

If that's the case, would a Slaaneshi claw taste like crab meat?

[crystal forum]

gotta love how blanks are even rarer because everybody wants to kill them

[celest dome]

Probably would taste like LSD

[versed ledge]

Taste the rainbow, feel the rainbow

[crystal forum]

im sure eating any demon would make you very quickly feel things that involve the chaos god they were serving

[celest dome]

Blanks are rarer cause 1 most blank are very weak, 2 cause they aren't gonna propagate their genes as often and it's a rarer genetic mutation

[crystal forum]

yeah and they give off an aura that makes everybody hate them

[versed ledge]

I remember there was book about a rogue imperial Court drinking Slaaneshi wine

Potent stuff apparently, and with aphrodisiac properties

[celest dome]

Fantasy has a Khornate troop that are hyped up on Bloodletter blood iirc

[versed ledge]

Hardcore....what do khornattes even eat?

[crystal forum]

eating nurgle flesh is pretty self explanatory

[versed ledge]

Yeah no kidding

[celest dome]

Same as other people, maybe with more spices

[versed ledge]

I mean maybe, but I can imagine Slaaneshi cultist being like us, just more perverted. But hardcore khornattes, I'm guessing veggies aren't on the menu

Nor carbs

I mean they're Swole

[arctic talon]

Khornates prolly eat food like anyone else

Same applies to tzeentch and slaanesh worshipers

[celest dome]

Khorne does have a few plants, and the Iron Wolf subsist in fantasy by farming, fishing and raiding

[versed ledge]

And probably Nurgle, if they can still eat...

[arctic talon]

Yeah eating vegetables is kind of important

To uh not dying

[versed ledge]

A varied diet is needed to keep death away

[crystal forum]

i dont think nurgle worshipers even need to eat

[arctic talon]

They prolly don’t

Tbh

[versed ledge]

Or can at all...pretty sure that organ system has long rotted away judging by stuff we fight in DT

[crystal forum]

which is weird because burgle aesthetic is thicc bellies

[frosty stag]

Yeah we do eat

Mainly weird plants

Don’t need to tho

Just fun

[versed ledge]

Uh....about that ..just don't be in the vicinity when that belly pops

[crystal forum]

i like reading stories from the perspective of nurglers

the language is always so over the top gross

"your pestilicious highness"

[storm jungle]

the Nurgle trailer for total warhammer is probably the best use of it

[versed ledge]

Oh hey, moddy

[celest dome]

Bloated due to parasites

[storm jungle]

Also just the whole sloth thing of being fat and lazy and content with life

[crystal forum]

nurgle really has it all figured out

[storm jungle]

Nurgle is a true homie

free gaslighting and abuse

[crystal forum]

you just have to get over the gross aspect and it seems like a comfy life

no pain, no hunger

[storm jungle]

as the Cadian puts it ingame

"No fear, no pain. All at the price of damnation."

[crystal forum]

i'd take damnation over having my soul devoured in the warp

[storm jungle]

spoiler

thats whats gonna happen when you die anyway

[crystal forum]

wont happen if i just chill as a nurgle worshipper

[storm jungle]

No you will eventually die to something

and thats when grandpa gets your soul

[crystal forum]

it'll be a good life though. doing some seditious work here, some chaos revolts there...

wait im valhallan fuck

fuck chaos

[storm jungle]

Yeah valhalla is great

you get to sit in ice caves

and eat food slime oozing out of walls

[crystal forum]

then you go fight orks with the boys

is there a story where kriegers and valhallans mix

i wonder if they'd get along

[storm jungle]

Krieg doesnt get along with anyone

[storm jungle]

also nope

[covert kiln]

Wasn't there a drawing of an autopsied Eldar and it showed them basically having like sinew instead of muscle? I imagine they'd taste like gristle.

[versed ledge]

Kriegers are.just killjoys

[crystal forum]

but valhallans also like dying for the emperor

even more so than kriegers

[storm jungle]

That book is noncanon

so no

[covert kiln]

Ah, gotcha.

[storm jungle]

No they dont

Valhallans are literally just WW2 soviets

brutal but also joyous

they arent boring nihilistic morons like Krieg

[crystal forum]

so they really are just the better krieg

[storm jungle]

I mean

they have nothing matching with krieg

unless you count them wearing clothes

[crystal forum]

they both love artillery

[storm jungle]

everyone in the guard does

artillery is literally the biggest part of any militarum engagement

[versed ledge]

Can't blame the krieg for being that way, they live in trenches

And have mustard gas in lieu of fog

And artillery for rain

[storm jungle]

they have mustard gas for dinner

[crystal forum]

they both come from a world that got shit on by a catastrophic event

[storm jungle]

Krieg literally faced a nuclear holocaust

[covert kiln]

I bet they have real wonky callouses from always wearing their masks.

[storm jungle]

Valhallans just faced winter

death world regiments are very common

[crystal forum]

valhalla used to be a paradise world

[covert kiln]

Like, can't grow a beard where the mask toches anymore.

[storm jungle]

I know lmao

but like

they just saw

"oh no winter is coming from that meteorite, lets go downside"

[versed ledge]

But are sometimes sent to fight in deserts despite being more oriented for winterized warfare

[storm jungle]

Krieg was a nuclear holocaust with them wanting to be imperial lapdogs and killing the rebels to "repent" for a crime their current generations dont even remember doing

they are a cult of sacrifice

[crystal forum]

idk it feels similar to me. both regiments come from shitty worlds and are expected to die quickly on the front

[storm jungle]

Valhallans are just space soviets.

[crystal forum]

wait now that i think about it that's most regiments

[storm jungle]

they got nothing in common with each other

[storm jungle]

I literally just said that

[versed ledge]

Are valhallans space commies?

[storm jungle]

Nah just in appearance

they are based on WW2 winter soviets

[crystal forum]

i dont think living in cramped underground megacities with barely any food to go around falls in line with marxist teachings

[storm jungle]

I mean

have you seen russia throughout history

[crystal forum]

im making a joke 😫

[storm jungle]

no

[versed ledge]

Damn, they do look like patriotic war soldiers

[crystal forum]

idk what about their uniform makes me think finnish but it does

god those models are so hideous

genuinely revolting

[storm jungle]

yeah welcome to half of the entire guard range

[crystal forum]

newer models are better

im glad i can 3d print them at least

i have a fetish for WW2 soviet equipment

[versed ledge]

Yay 3d printing for better models

[green loom]

I liek SVT40

[crystal forum]

it's a very interesting rifle

too quirky for my taste

[green loom]

I prefer the G43 to it

[crystal forum]

soviets were masters are simplifying weapons

[versed ledge]

GW had all the opportunity to make the Valhallan lasgun to be modeled after the SVT40

[crystal forum]

as somebody who likes designing shit i appreciate them

[crystal forum]

i found a 3d file that can assemble like 10k different infantry valhallans and they get lasgun mosins lol

[green loom]

I'd be doing some drawing rn if I wasn't so sleep deprived

[crystal forum]

dont push yourself

[green loom]

Ye I'm chilling

But I wanna try out new brushes and draw stiffs

[crystal forum]

is there a guard regiment that has a naval theme

[storm jungle]

Nope

every guard regiment that has artwork or is famous is from IRL based ground-armies.

[green loom]

Keyword "based"/

[spare osprey]

I still stand by the redcowls

They’re the best

[plush mason]

why do they cosplay as Skitarii?

[plush mason]

the navy and the guard are 2 separate things with 0 overlap. because the heresy happened and the imperium loves to overreact to everything

[normal light]

They are IG Regiment that has close ties with Mechanicus

[plush mason]

makes sense

[spare osprey]

Complete opposite actually

No one likes them

Cause they stink like shit

They use a flamer fuel from their homeworld that produces a more destructive flame

But fuckin hell it stinks

It stinks so so bad

Think they’re nicknamed the “Fire skunks”

[green loom]

Ok but skunks are friend shaped

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vszWsYOdnPg&ab_channel=DailyPicksandFlicks

[crystal forum]

i meant real life navy

[plush mason]

ohhhh

yeah still no afaik. the navy has all the navy looks mainly form the 1600s lol

[covert kiln]

That's not a horrid tech priest. Did you do that?

[spare osprey]

Friend did

He’s doodled a few 40K thingies at my request

[covert kiln]

Not bad at all.

[spare osprey]

Full thing

[covert kiln]

Commisar is funny as hell.

[spare osprey]

He’s usually the standout that people react to Ja

Think I gave him Cain as the reference

Did a xeno one as well

[covert kiln]

Love the Eldar. So much.

[spare osprey]

Big fan of the Necron myself

Think there’s a votaan somewhere

[covert kiln]

I am biased. I love Eldar. Exodites need more love.

[covert kiln]

Hell, Craftworlders need more love. And Ynnari! Love the ynnari!

[spare osprey]

I agree on the exodite note. I really need to get more into eldar. I like Biel tan a lot tho

[covert kiln]

They protect maiden worlds, no?

Some overlap.

[spare osprey]

All I know about em is they’re assholes

And that’s enough for me

Alr last one as to not make lore chat into the art channel. Arbite and his doggo

[covert kiln]

Ulthwe are assholes too. Like, 1 billion humans die so one Eldar's fingernail doesn't get chipped? Fair trade!

[spare osprey]

I’d say so

Honestly tho outta all the eldar

I really need to learn about the corsairs

Planning a Corsair character. I don’t think I could do him justice if I didn’t know even the basic shit

[covert kiln]

I read up on their lore, It's interesting. Theyr psykers are wonky, but I am a big fan of classical casters.

[spare osprey]

Yeah I got a pysker dude planned

All for a big interaction with a fallen of mine

Cause I get the feeling having an eldar would defo help in an exorcism

Also need to read up on Eldrad

[crystal forum]

where the fuck is valhallan representation

also these drawings make me think of gorillaz for some reason

[spare osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/you-didnt-earn-it-stan-marsh-kyle-broflovski-south-park-s5e6-gif-21984513

Real answer tho

Think he started drawing it

Then class ended

And I completely forgot about em

[crystal forum]

one day you'll be fighting a xenocidal campaign on a frozen world and you'll be asking ME for help

i will remember this

[spare osprey]

That’s what the damned argent spire is for

(This is a dark angel reference I rightfully expect no one to get)

[crystal forum]

oh good because i was drawing blanks here

[spare osprey]

It’s possibly the most specific DA thing Ik

Literally a secret society of the dark angels legion that specialized only in fighting on frozen death worlds

[crystal forum]

jokes on you most valhallans have never even seen a space marine

[winter vessel]

Yep “THAT’S A LOT OF DAMAGE”-Phil from Flex Seal

[spare osprey]

Idk why but you sayin that made me think of this

[spare osprey]

When I say secret society btw I mean an actual secret society

Like secret rituals and shit all based on it

https://tenor.com/view/the-iceman-cometh-batman-forever-arnold-schwarzenegger-gif-10776182

[storm jungle]

Im here for your needs

https://tenor.com/view/youtube-twitch-meme-chair-office-gif-19928140

[spare osprey]

well right off the bat

corsairs are still pretty anti human as eldar go correct?

[storm jungle]

Nah

it entirely depends on the warband, Corsairs are independant as shit

[spare osprey]

mhm

[storm jungle]

they can be racist, not racist, and entirely flat out trade with humans

But like, you know

humans are also racist

so its like IRL piracy

so be careful who you share shit with for loot

[spare osprey]

so with that being said on independance

could you with a reasonable amount of disbelief

see a corsair help a space marine exorcise a daemon

[storm jungle]

Yes.

A lot of goofier shit has happened in lore

[spare osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/hooray-kenan-thompson-saturday-night-live-yay-celebrating-gif-23508511

[storm jungle]

Also

with the 9th edition codex corsairs for once in like 30 years actually get a big lore dump in an official eldar codex, let me share some of that, its just 4 pages

[spare osprey]

oooo yes please

[storm jungle]

They are extremely flexible to a point as a sub-faction, they haven't gotten any proper lore since the Imperial Armor book Doom of Mymeara which came out in like fucking 2015

[green loom]

There's also

That Corsair queen

Who's help Honsou won

[storm jungle]

YEET

[green loom]

I wish I could collect :((((

[storm jungle]

save money

[green loom]

I'm only paid for commissions smh

[storm jungle]

💀

[covert kiln]

The art on the bottom one is cool as hell.

[green loom]

• no shipping smh

[storm jungle]

bottom one?

[covert kiln]

the Void Dragon art

[storm jungle]

Oh yeah its based

[crystal forum]

you take commissions?

[green loom]

A month from now maybe

Mfw exams

[crystal forum]

mmmmh

[celest cedar]

@crystal forum nice new hat

[green loom]

Why do u have the snow uni on

[spare osprey]

good to know good to know

[storm jungle]

Yeah like just stick to basic eldar lore and you are mostly fine

[green loom]

Remember to sleep with rogue Traders

[storm jungle]

the entire reason they exist is to serve as a middle point for people that dont wanna be too uptight like craftworlders but dont wanna be too edgy like drukhari

[storm jungle]

also this

[spare osprey]

is a blind pysker good enough?

[storm jungle]

Yes.

[spare osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/hooray-kenan-thompson-saturday-night-live-yay-celebrating-gif-23508511

[green loom]

God if you can actually sex the ranger in RT

[storm jungle]

also legit tho a lot of 40k fans kinda forget a shit ton of imperial officials trade with aliens on an entirely daily basis, I mention this because money is good

just dont get caught

[green loom]

If they don't trade with aliens then they trade with the people that do

[storm jungle]

^

[spare osprey]

i'm joking i should mention. not lookin to make any more Illiyan Nastase's

[green loom]

He's Canon again btw

But he's just a normal eldar now

[storm jungle]

Yep

[spare osprey]

just gonna be 2 dudes

https://tenor.com/view/vine-hot-tub-two-bros-gif-10355782

[spare osprey]

oh neat

i remember that red gobbo comic GW put out a tiny bit ago had him

[green loom]

Voidsman lounge
Switches to Trader's suite
He's getting it on with the eldar

[spare osprey]

but yeah just gotta plan that whole thing

then have the corsair "brand" him

which is a whole

character thing

[storm jungle]

The psyker?

[spare osprey]

yeah idea is it's an "insult" but pysker lad holds it more as a testament to what he is

[storm jungle]

Based

humiliating scars that build character is good

[spare osprey]

it's the only different word that's on his armor (this one also being on his body)

other than is the word "neverborn" burned over and over and over all over his armor

again, exorcism's are fun times

[storm jungle]

If you are looking for any particular brands

http://eldar.arhicks.co.uk/miscellaneous/eldar_runes.php

[spare osprey]

oooo thank you

been lookin for something like that

cause otherwise i was gonna settle for like

Mon-keigh i think

[storm jungle]

Yeee all good

theres not a rune for humans but theres a rune for human worlds iirc

you can modify and work with that because a lot of these other one are eldar only stuff

[spare osprey]

nice nice

[storm jungle]

[spare osprey]

found the only reference i have for the lad.

good ol mr blind

hoping to get some art of him readin a book

just cause

[storm jungle]

As wizards should 🙏

[spare osprey]

prob with a cameo from his servo "buddy"

idk i just feel there needs to be a bit more art of dudes just chilling

cause in the grimdark future there's only war

but gawd damn just take a breather for like an hour

[storm jungle]

chill art is something you'll only see in like the fantasy flight artworks so i agree lmao

[green loom]

I've got some more Red Corsair ideas

How long ago was the Badab war in universe?

[storm jungle]

pretty recent

because like literally every event in 40k takes place in M41

since the setting was stuck in that one millenium for a LOOONG time before Gathering Storm

[green loom]

Okay good

Going to make a chaos lord/Corsair lord from UM stock

Maybe from a successor not sure yet

With a champion who's a zerker from the Lamenters, since I figure some of them might've gotten stuck

The idea is that the UM guy is attached to the Claws as an advisor/attache and goes native

[versed ledge]

So does the imperium of man still adhere to the Geneva Suggestions, throne, is there something equivalent?

[green loom]

No

[spare osprey]

defo not

[green loom]

Geneva stopped existing a few thousand years ago

[versed ledge]

banewolf goes uwu

[storm jungle]

the Imperium is basically Roman Nazis

so make of that what you will

[green loom]

I rewatched Generation War

And even if there was something they signed

The end result would be

"Well they didn't sign it so they're fair game"

[storm jungle]

also people really dont realise your common soldier does not care about war crimes.

[green loom]

Because authoritarian dystopias with a heavy hand in propaganda tend to twist the truth to allow exceptions

[spare osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/weirdo-gilbert-gottfried-cameo-creep-youre-weird-gif-18726077

[green loom]

Hopefully I'll have energy to do art in 3 weeks

[spare osprey]

keep saying "should mention" but should mention this whole eldar twink he meets is like one of the better things that's happened to him in the past "10,000 years"

i say 10,000 in quotes cause i mean

he's obviously not 10,000 years old

what am i fuckin crazy

[spare osprey]

cause out of being captured and interrogated by DA, being possessed for a bit and becoming estranged with your best friend

you need a friendly serf or passive aggressive eldar pirate here and there

[spare osprey]

either way, take your time broski. defo try and sleep well

[green loom]

Can't

[spare osprey]

Awwww come on

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-time-gif-25989081

[green loom]

I've got work to do and I dread it

So I distract myself with very nice red Corsair art

This is probably my favourite CSM piece period

[spare osprey]

just don't dread it too hard. else you'll be serving even in death

https://tenor.com/view/dreadnought-dawn-of-war-space-marines-execute-dark-angels-gif-23567064

[green loom]

I'll sleep in 6 years

[crystal forum]

you're a warrior ed

show that work what a space marine can do

[green loom]

Normally I wouldn't mind but I have exams in 3 days and I don't like my free time being wasted

Anyway I'll try passing out

[arctic talon]

why the fuck would they

have you seen the shit they do

Geneva convention is a goddamn checklist in most imperial warzones

Even the tau don't follow it bcs cluster munitions and such

[crystal forum]

i didn't even bother answering that because it sounds so far removed from 40k

like what even is a convention

[green loom]

Wolf wolf wolf

Do you wanna hear about my

[crystal forum]

people agreeing on shit in 40k?

[green loom]

Basazed red Corsair

[arctic talon]

Sure

I got time before my next lecture

[green loom]

Think of naming him Arminius, UM stock traitor

[arctic talon]

Sounds fun

you going to have the red corsair emblem

or the scratched out ultramarine one

[green loom]

Both probably

Will design tomorrow of I have any eenrty

*energy

[arctic talon]

They can agree to not kill each other for 5 seconds sometimes tbf

usually when something horrifying is trying to kill both sides currently fighting

[versed ledge]

spreading the light of imperium through roman style peace and tolerance

[arctic talon]

Nah

think more violent

[crystal forum]

ultraviolence

[versed ledge]

I did called it suggestions, things that ought to be done in 40k in the first inning

[spare osprey]

nah even like

[crystal forum]

it's important first to understand what rules of war even are

[spare osprey]

the nicest space marines

monsters man

absolute monsters

[versed ledge]

in defense of the salamanders, gotta stay loyal to solely humanity

[crystal forum]

there's no book of law for war, even if it's called legal/illegal there's no system that will punish you for breaking a rule of war

laws of war are agreements between nations

[storm jungle]

There is. If you get caught.

[spare osprey]

only nice space marines, dark angels obv

[crystal forum]

for the imperium to have laws of war it would first have to find any common ground with xenos

[versed ledge]

yup and considering agreements are a dime dozen in the 40k universe....

[crystal forum]

america and russia regularly dont even care. at the end of the day breaking a rule of war just means the enemy will use whatever you used illegally against you

[storm jungle]

Pretty much

[arctic talon]

America literally has a law in place

[storm jungle]

without going too political America literally bombed an entire nation to the stone age in the middle east and left like it was nothing

[arctic talon]

where if you attempt trying someone

in Geneva

they will invade

This is not a joke

[crystal forum]

i think understanding this also explains why rules of war dont apply to civilians being oppressed by their own nation

[arctic talon]

Yepper

[crystal forum]

nations can have revenge. citizens can't.

[versed ledge]

to be fair.....the US weren't really the first to do that

[arctic talon]

No shit

but that doesn't justify

it either lol

[storm jungle]

^

[spare osprey]

i say we bomb mars

[crystal forum]

you say that wolf but a lot of people just dont get how it works

[versed ledge]

not mars! my tech support!

[spare osprey]

common enemy

[arctic talon]

Like its understandable to have wanted to you know

fight back

but there's no reason for us to have uh

you know

[spare osprey]

i'm using this when the Martians come so we're in this together

[storm jungle]

💀

also take that Elon

[arctic talon]

I'm not afraid of some tiny ass bacteria

[spare osprey]

boutta be mole people dog

https://tenor.com/view/undermine-underminer-gif-5630951

[crisp heath]

• Tuberculosis Jones

[crystal forum]

world eaters on istvan IV

[spare osprey]

legit tho i don't think i've ever seen another chapter help deliver a baby

that's kindness

trust

no other things lurking in the shadows of the DA

[winter vessel]

I like to imagine when one of the Dark Angels are being sent off to the Deathwatch Chapter, his battle brother offers a handshake, pulls him in and whispers in his ear “You utter one word about our secrets, we will BURY you…”

[green loom]

Ykno I think there's a setting we're sleeping on

[spare osprey]

is actually how it goes

[green loom]

Anyone know MEGAS XLR?

[spare osprey]

the DA send out dudes a lot of the time to check our rumors of fallen

and they send other fellas to check up on that

[spare osprey]

defo not

https://tenor.com/view/dakota-laden-destination-fear-nopeming-sanatorium-that-scares-me-so-much-gif-17086853

[winter vessel]

The one where they use a mech to destroy the American equivalent of the “Eye of Terror”? AKA the DMV?

[green loom]

Ye

I've been looking into it after an Armoured Core meme

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/armored-core-6-armored-core-vi-ac6-gif-18304652401174134244

[nocturne crest]

I see someone make a Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo skin for armoured.

[green loom]

Wtf

Why'd this show have a great cast

Clancy Brown is the main villain
Steve Blum is a supporting char
Bruce Campbell is just casually put in

[nocturne crest]

Megas XLR or Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo?

Ah.

[green loom]

Former

[crystal forum]

i despise how fake french this name is

why does GW use almost real names

[storm jungle]

because lazy writing

[scenic bolt]

C O P Y W R I T E

[winter vessel]

Well they managed to use the name “Pedro” for a Space Marine

[crystal forum]

why is pedro such a funny name

[arctic talon]

Because it’s a normal ass name

And there’s a giant killing machine named Pedro

[queen laurel]

This mech actually has enough gadgets and weaponry that it put any ork machine to shame, the amount of weapons, and things this thing can do is actually quite amazing

[spare osprey]

also hector

[crystal forum]

hector sounds intimidating

[spare osprey]

he was

wore the crowned skulls of terran kings on his belt

[crystal forum]

terran kings?

[spare osprey]

yup

techno barbarians

old crazy fools who fought the emps during the unification wars

[crystal forum]

oh those guys

then who's hector

[spare osprey]

First leader of the dark angels. pre lion and all

Hector thrane

Legion master and one of emps most trusted space marines

he has a tomb on the DA's flagship in a little flower park

[crystal forum]

huh

hector sounds nice

why do you know so much about dark angels anyways

[spare osprey]

man

i got no fuckin idea

i played a mobile game

saw cool green dudes

and now i just keep reading

[crystal forum]

i thought their books sucked

[spare osprey]

oh 100%

yeah no most of their books are ass

but when they're done right

boy

are they done right

and then eventually i looked more into the fallen and realized their dynamic is a bit more my speed

which does sorta play into 30k lore

and so yeah

i pretty much just try and read as much as i can to know that my homebrew dude's make sense in the story

cause the first goal i'll always have

is to do the faction justice

it's the least ya can do if you really enjoy em

i also just really enjoy small detail lore

and adding little niches into characters from that

so

it's the only reason ik that the DA used a cold war nuke to kill a xenos titan

or that the lion allowed the telling of calibanite myth among his legion

some of which included satyrs

it's that stupid stuff that is never gonna be important that's neat to me

the little phrases and sayings

‘As the forests are green’ and such

also helps with backgrounds

like Týr here

he was born in Nordyc

which today would be Scandinavia

he'd have been an uncrowned prince due to his time of recruitment

alongside the likes of Astelan or Marduk Sedras

common thing among their ranks was faulty psycho indoctrination

leaves them less defendable against trauma and more likely to cause a resurgence in past memories

that's already a big thing if you wanna talk about how the early great crusade could have a toll on a marine

then you just gotta find the details to work with

the Palace Coup, where the DA first fought and slaughtered the remaining thunder warriors. maybe he could've taken a trophy from there

boom thunder warrior power pack

he was born in Nordyc, would've been a lot of minor kings there. maybe i could make him "royalty". boom plotline there with how he earns the crown and eventually forges it into his helmet

Battle of Advex-Mors, deadly first contact with the rangda

lotta dudes died, why not say he got injured. boom no right arm

and then the Siege of Mykana, a portion of DA were cornered by enemy forces and then saved by the EC. could say he lost a portion of his cranium and that builds a respect for the 3rd legion

it's just all those small details that GW throw on a page just to fill it up and make 10,000 years be less empty. i think they really work in character building

and so yeah in short of all that fuckin tangent

i just like big black armored knight welsh/jewish super monks who fight daemons and aliens

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-jake-the-dog-adventure-time-idunno-idk-gif-5265736

[green loom]

Tyr sounds pretty nice

Love me some Terran born

[queen laurel]

ok so I'm pretty sure these guys are the age of sigmar ork version of a repentia

[green loom]

Yeah it's literally just repentia lol

[undone zodiac]

Sob army but its orks

[celest dome]

It look more like a Skaramor Khornate Blade

[queen laurel]

Brute Ragerz become a thing when a Brute suffers a particularly embarrassing defeat, they may wildly overcompensate by doubling down and becoming even more outrageously arrogant, discarding most of their armour and grabbing the biggest two-handed weapons

Literally repentia

[spare osprey]

Very much agreed

And for fallen I think it’s a bit more fun

Cause you get to write up why a dude who’s served for so long

Would ever dream of turning his back on his legion

[crystal forum]

i love the handle sword

[queen laurel]

Straight up monster hunter greatsword am i right

[crystal forum]

and i like soul drinkers because they're space IRA

except they're also a second founding chapter so unlike dark angels they don't get any rules

[spare osprey]

I play fallen so don’t worry

I get the no rules thing

[crystal forum]

the funny thing about soul drinkers is we also don't know their founding chapter

so i can't even pick a chapter to represent them

[green loom]

A weapon of mass frustration

[frosty stag]

God emperor should wear this

[crystal forum]

honestly the dynamic of a female emperor would have been interesting

too much sausage in HH

is there even a single woman who writes for GW

[frosty stag]

🤷‍♂️

[storm jungle]

We got one on this server

but out of like dozens of male GW writers theres only been an legit handful female writers

[green loom]

Sarah Cawkwell yeah

[storm jungle]

3-5 or so

[green loom]

Or Captain Kentucky

[storm jungle]

yep

[crystal forum]

that's so dumb

no wonder HH reads like a boys club

[green loom]

The new creed book is written by a Lady

[green loom]

Because it is

There's like

[storm jungle]

You aren't too far off Jay, most female authors usually get delegated to writing 1-3 sororitas books.

[crystal forum]

wtf

[green loom]

The bloody rose lady is pretty cool

[crystal forum]

is there a single HH book written by a woman

[green loom]

Also fun excerpt

[green loom]

Prolly not

[crystal forum]

im punching the air rn

this is dumb

[storm jungle]

But yeah BL is dominated by like

white middle aged guys who are either bald or have beards

[green loom]

And maybe 3 or 4 of them are good

[crystal forum]

so they'll pay dan a ton of money to write his shitty fanfics

[storm jungle]

like this pic is legit hilarious

[storm jungle]

Correct

Dan has too much influence

he can basically write whatever he wants

[crystal forum]

but not a struggling female writer

[green loom]

Nick Kyme is one of their worst writers but gets to do his own shit since he's pretty high up on the hierarchy

Same for Phil Kelly

[storm jungle]

Kyme is the head editor iirc

[frosty stag]

Gw seems just as corrupt as the imperium

[storm jungle]

well yeah they are a corporation

[green loom]

[storm jungle]

at the end of the day you'll always get these types

[frosty stag]

Genuine question

[crystal forum]

And you see more women in fanfiction content but then GW copyright strikes them