40k-lore-chat

[round cedar]

so from that persepctive the idea holds water

[crystal forum]

i liked the idea earlier that the commissars just act like enforcers removing any signs of disloyalty from the grunts. It would pretty much be 1:1 the same as a commissar rule wise

[normal light]

They have authority in Battalion , Squad or other unit they connected to

[round cedar]

true not a bad idea

[normal light]

I think they need slaves

From my Chaos Follower point of View

[round cedar]

i like the idea of individual soldiers being under contract for 10 or so years at a time with a payout and retirement waiting at the end for them
goes with their mercenary nature and would keep morale high

[crystal forum]

so like that indentured service regiment

[normal light]

Or better , PENAL SQUADS

[round cedar]

yes

instead of normal slavery until death regiments

[crystal forum]

it's not grimdark enough if guardsmen have a bright future

[round cedar]

every guard regiment already has ship slaves and servitors so that wouldnt make em different tbh

[normal light]

We need more

[round cedar]

(they are sent on more suricidal missions the later into their contracts)

[normal light]

And they won’t be used as Penal Regiments

[round cedar]

few actually see the payout

[crystal forum]

you'll need to explain how they replenish their casualties too

[normal light]

Just as labour force for constructing fortifications

[round cedar]

the guard regiment that treats the rest of the imperium the worst treats its soldiers the best

[round cedar]

demanding thousands to millions of people from the worlds they extort?

pretty self expanitory

[normal light]

Maybe volunteer’s

[crystal forum]

governors using population as trade items does seem on brand for 40k

[normal light]

That are indoctrinated by Enforcers and Low Ranking Officers

[round cedar]

you get kidnapped off your world to work for this regiment, normally youd get revolty, but a fat payout awaits at the end of 10 years if you can last that long, making you more likely to be compliant

[normal light]

Well it also depends on conditions you given

[crystal forum]

so the grey market pillaging is mostly military equipment?

in that case you could use some wonky vehicles due to governors paying with vehicles found in old armouries

[round cedar]

raw materials, equipment, and such
presumably they have a forge ship they may or may not have commandeered from the mechanicus

(the mechanicus wont supply em becuase of this so they have to keep extorting or face attrition)

[normal light]

Ah yes those funky old tanks that no one knows how to operate

[crystal forum]

if they fucked with the mechanicus they're in deep shit

[round cedar]

30k guard equipment

[round cedar]

yea that is an ambitious idea, may not go that far

[normal light]

But rusted to hell and mostly not working

[round cedar]

but they are bastards and everybody hates em until they are there to save the day

so pretty funny and grimdark

[crystal forum]

the entire soul drinker saga literally only happened because of a single petty fight with the mehanicus

[normal light]

Until they fall to the Ruinous Powers

[round cedar]

yea nevermind the mechanicus aint to be trifled with

https://tenor.com/view/iron-man-gif-22205133

when the guard comes to save your planet from the orks but they demand your entire adamantine stores

[crystal forum]

more like malcadors and shit. my custom regiment is based on an extensive armoury world so they have a ton of different vehicles and weaponry. it's an excuse for me to print wacky stuff for them, especially old forge world models

[round cedar]

true and good idea

have a nice variety of old cool ships led from the back by a massive rogue trader ship

[crystal forum]

also there's vast deserts made of gold dust because it's ironic that everybody's scavenging for tech in a world made of gold

[round cedar]

lol thats epic

like the incas in a city of gold with gold spoons and such

[normal light]

My 97th Ukrack Regiment originated from fictional Forge World of Ukrack (that why they are Mechanised Regiment)

[normal light]

And they were send to fight Chaos and got encircled

[round cedar]

speaking of, soldiers in the Sellswords would be very unwilling to die and throw their lives away as mercenaries. commisars gotta do a lot of work and risk being fragged constantly

[normal light]

Enforcers you meant

[round cedar]

either or

whichever works best with the lore

i like them being called enforcers but having normal commissars for the sake of simplicity is nice

[crystal forum]

that's why i think it would be hard to apply to a guard regiment. the reason they're all super religious is because they're expected to go die immediately on the battlefield

[round cedar]

commisars wouldnt be so strict jsut like with catchans due to the high risk of being freindly fired

still can work

[normal light]

Fuck just heard a rocket

[round cedar]

but yea enforcer idea fixes that too

[normal light]

I currently have an Air Raid 🇺🇦

[crystal forum]

ok ok so i have a suggestion and it's just 2 words

[round cedar]

gl comrade

[round cedar]

whats that?

[crystal forum]

bomb collar

[round cedar]

hmm

[normal light]

Fallout

[round cedar]

not a terrible idea tbh

but seems more penal regiment than mercenary

their main thing is being mercenaries, but that would solve the not following orders to stay alive problem

[crystal forum]

i'd expect governors to give the scum of their hive cities is the thing

it's super easy for them to go sweep the underhive and send all that stuff away

[round cedar]

true: promotion 1 after X years of service is removal of the collar, promotion 2 is the payout after X years

pretty damn good idea, thanks

[crystal forum]

and there you can differentiate between experienced infantry vs the cannon fodder if you want to do models on tabletop. if they don't have a bomb collar they're sergeants and stuff

[round cedar]

baller idea and proper grimdark

the fodder would wear rounded helmets that expose their neck and the collar, the more experienced infantry wear the pointy chichak helmets

fodder:

veteran:

[crystal forum]

yeee that's awesome

[round cedar]

yea thanks, its a damn good idea

[crystal forum]

it's a good way to filter out the recruits too. if they're not good fighters they die in combat quickly and if they're not loyal enough they get their head blown off. Removing the bomb collar once experienced means they can freely voice their opinion while you're sure they're loyal to your cause

[round cedar]

fodder use a las gun version of the BAR, veterans use a las version of the bren

[round cedar]

yea veterans getting a voice is lit, and commisars think twice about executing a vet as the other vets watch out for their kind

with that in mind would a bomb collar even be needed if there were clear indicators in uniform of social heirarchy? its way easier to point and shoot at a disloyal soldier than find their number on the list and trigger that collar

[crystal forum]

the cool thing about the BAR is it was adopted by so many countries that you'll find a ton of cool looking variant. check out the polish version called the Browning wz. 1928

it has heat fins!!!!

[round cedar]

thats a cool cut down version ngl

[crystal forum]

you'll quickly notice that every country decides to add a pistol grip

ironically enough america had the worst BAR

[round cedar]

yea but no pistol grip is way cooler imo

rule of cool > practicality

[crystal forum]

i like the pistol grip. it makes the BAR look like a battle rifle

so chunky

[round cedar]

wait a sec

[crystal forum]

people sleep on the BAR. it was one of the most effective guns ever made yet america had no idea how to use it

[green loom]

You ever notice how goofy a lot of American guns look?

[round cedar]

found a cooler gun that could be easily converted into las 40k gun

las FMG42

cool af

[crystal forum]

i try not to use german guns at all

[round cedar]

i can see why

[crystal forum]

because i dont want to look like that type of 40k player

[round cedar]

fair

[green loom]

I just like the lasgun

[crystal forum]

american side mag

[round cedar]

@crystal forum with the social heirarchy of vet vs recruit, im not sure bomb collars would be necessary. vets may get a free pass to execute poor recruits every now and then

gotta think about it

[round cedar]

pretty cool but i really like wood furniture, whats this gun called?

[crystal forum]

m1941 johnson

there's both a rifle and a machinegun that look like that

[round cedar]

yeah pretty sick

[crystal forum]

the rifle was issued to some marines but it wasn't deemed superior enough to warrant replacing the garand

and i think the BAR was just plain better than the LMG johnson

[round cedar]

i see

but anyhow yea that would look sick for a las gun variant

[crystal forum]

are you looking for a mechanically complexe looking gun or something? what's the vibe you're looking for

[round cedar]

not really just different and distinct from the normal looking las guns we currently got

variety is the spice of life

but yea the bomb collar idea may be impractical, as its way easier to shoot a coward then to find their code and detonate the collar with a device you may or may not have

gotta think through it more

still coolest idea, jsut got to think how to make it work

[crystal forum]

that's what i'd think the "commissar" would be tasked with. instead of shooting disloyal grunts and risking having their fellow citizens from X planet get revenge they'd blow up the bomb collar quickly to instill fear

[normal light]

Also you don’t have to see a grunt if you have a collar on him

[crystal forum]

yeah that too. if they're running away you just have to click a button instead of finding them

[round cedar]

true

[frosty stag]

Hi lore nuts

[round cedar]

i guess commisars/enforcers would just be given wrist things that have a button for each grunt in their squad, but also their pistols just in case

[crystal forum]

well the pistol would be for fighting the enemy mostly lol

[round cedar]

commisar lookin like ben 10 messing with his watch before blowing your head clean off

[crystal forum]

to me it's mostly to explain how the regiment would have a consistent influx of loyal members without needing the RIP battalion that other regiments have

[round cedar]

wouldnt work well in big battles where a commisar finds a random soldier being a coward not within his squad, would just have to use the pistol

[round cedar]

yea thats why i like the idea, just gotta figure out how itd best work in the field

commisars have special servo skulls, they just point at someone or say a command and the servo auto detonates that collar

||xenos/chaos when they hack le skulls to auto detonate nearby collars ||

[versed ledge]

A Johnson lmg?

[round cedar]

indeed

a lasgun looking version of that would be quite sick

[versed ledge]

Agreed, however there are similar lasguns of that nature.. perhaps to pay homage to the weapon's role as a SAW, a hotshot or hellgun would be good

Or keep it as a heavy stubber

[sullen cape]

surely we can Get some hotslasguns,/hellguns and hotshot Marksman rifle along with a hotsot vollygun ability in the feature. since they are part of the typically imperium argument along with some varaints from Lucius, Cadian and Ryza.

[round cedar]

what other lasguns are there that have the mag pointing out the side/top?

i havent seen any like that

[undone zodiac]

I want sten gun lasgun

Just some shitty toob with wirestock and powerpack slammed to side

Make it be some shoddy lowtech world gun for penaltroops

[sullen cape]

Justlook at what they give the roane deepers.

[nocturne crest]

Do think the Imperium would claim the Dalek's technology if they ever learnt about their original race?

[crystal forum]

no

as far as they know they'd still be xenos or abhumans

[storm jungle]

If its admech Yesn't

this is their area of expertise and almost any sensible admech conclave hoards to copy, study, use or replicate Xenostech

But Daleks as goofy as they are uh are almost necron levels when it comes to technology and are ridiculously OP, so i dont think they could do much with it

https://tenor.com/view/dalek-doctor-who-fire-flame-room-gif-19180987

[crystal forum]

imagine the doctor in 40k

holy shit how depressed would he/she be

[storm jungle]

Probably not a lot.

Most of the Doctors have seen literal end of universes and humanity in a lot worse shapes. 40k would be just another dark fate among many.

[queen laurel]

They would definitely be wondering why there are pictures of the emperor's feet on one of the rooms of the the people

[plush mason]

they have shields that full on just remove bullets from existence. kinda hard to beat that lol

any race that is able to wage war on a race that controls time, ensure the mutual destruction of both and ensure they can survive said destruction has to be taken very seriously

[storm jungle]

Yeah like they are hilariously OP

A single dalek could just tank a bolter or insta-kill a space marine

its genuinely ridiculous when they look like anti-grav trashcans

[plush mason]

yup

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/dalek-goddbye-chat-doctor-who-gif-22275775

Also I had no idea their balls did this

[plush mason]

those balls are bombs

[storm jungle]

Quote of the year

[plush mason]

they full on kamikaze themselves with them

[storm jungle]

I do like how their appearance/armor basically does anything the plot demands, its great

Like how that toilet plunger is a brain-suck device

[plush mason]

the thing i love the most about the Dalek is they are the most OP race in the setting and they know it. the cult of skaro leader full on told the cybermen "this isnt war this is pest control"

[celest dome]

Wait they eat brains with that ?

[storm jungle]

Daleks are fucked up man

[celest dome]

Necron to any Admech

[nocturne crest]

Look up the Toclafane to see what the last of Humanity becomes.

[storm jungle]

Oh trust me I know

[green loom]

The suck brains with that

Important difference

[storm jungle]

like 40k is extremely tame in comparison to the cosmic shit that happens in Doctor Who

[plush mason]

its how they get info from people

just suck it right out their brains

ofc it kills the person

slowly

[green loom]

https://youtu.be/HH0NaVQjE2I?si=phFvZmd3_bCa72H6

[nocturne crest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXtk5fEVvy4

[spare osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/hey-grim-adventures-lime-irwin-gif-13352362

[nocturne crest]

What about the Cybermen, seeing how they either originated from their planet in the solar system or Earth?

[plush mason]

the Cybermen have different origins due to them being from 2 paralle timelines

so in the main timeline they are from another planet and in the alternant one they where made by a human that wanted to rule the world forever

[nocturne crest]

But the ones from another planet are technically influenced by Xenobiology.

[plush mason]

yeah

they both look and function the same but are slightly different

[crystal forum]

man that reminds of that episode where the doctor goes to the end of the universe and everybody's trying to find a way to survive the literal end of time. that episode really stuck with me because of how relatable a story set billions of years in the future can be

[storm jungle]

Yeah Dr Who is both very nihilistic and also very hopeful at the same time, its a good mix

[crystal forum]

i wish i could still watch it on netflix like the good old days. i have no way to watch doctor who because of weird region locks

[storm jungle]

[nocturne crest]

https://tenor.com/view/pirate-kitty-cute-gif-13005040

[crystal forum]

now that i think about it, weeping angels are probably scarier than anything in 40k

[frosty stag]

Was andré the giant the first orgyn?

[green loom]

Hardly the first

[queen laurel]

What are you smoking

[normal light]

Proto-Ogryn

[crystal forum]

man i thought this community post would be about having a full sized thunderhawk in plastic

no it's just for neo-epic scale

[green loom]

I bet you could fluff it that that weird eugenics program the one german guy did to have massive bodyguards resulted in Ogryn down the line

[frosty stag]

Im actually sober rn im just really really tired and possibly sick

[crystal forum]

apparently in 1997 they made a full scale 10 kg metal thunderhawk

10 fucking kg

[frosty stag]

Im a stupid American

Wtf is a kg

[normal light]

Typical Nurgle Follower State

[frosty stag]

Yeah fair enough

[normal light]

1 pound = 0,45 KG as I remember

[crystal forum]

22 lbs

[frosty stag]

Oh damn

[normal light]

Fucked up 💀

[crystal forum]

apparently just gluing that model together was hard

you're basically using industrial grade metal glue at that point

[frosty stag]

They should bring the metal ones back

I want a metal of that huge ass tank that came out a few months ago that I totally remember the name of

[crystal forum]

this is what it looked like

[frosty stag]

Dayum

[crystal forum]

you know what's the funniest part

[normal light]

So you can actually kill someone with them or build up muscle mass with their help?

[crystal forum]

they didn't even add any rules for it

[frosty stag]

Little bit of both

[crystal forum]

only 500 were sold and they came in wooden boxes lined with felt

i can only imagine how much that shit cost

[frosty stag]

Thanks gw

The only company to make people go bankrupt over silly plastic or metal probably

[crystal forum]

GW lore is more entertaining than 40k lore for me lol

[frosty stag]

Gw lore?

[crystal forum]

you know i doubt it was even that much back then. you could actually afford models in the 90's

[frosty stag]

I wish it was the same nowadays

I like money and i like warhammer

But i cant have both

[crystal forum]

3 space marines for 2.5 pounds

this is rogue trader era

so this would be the price today

or 8.73 usd

a tactical squad has 10 units and is priced at 60 usd

if we went by 1991 prices without any added cost it would be around 29 usd for a tactical squad

[frosty stag]

Damn

[crystal forum]

of course even back then GW models were considered expensive in the tabletop market so that 2.5£ price is probably way over the actual cost of the minis too

[storm jungle]

https://youtu.be/3y9J-03WaQI

Watching the new SM2 gameplay trailer, 20s in, already a summary execution by a commissar for cowardice on the right lol

[frosty stag]

Hi mod

[queen laurel]

Right now the only negative I'm seeing popping up is the voice actor of titus not being the same, but I will admit combat is a right proper brutal

[storm jungle]

TECHPRIEST CONFIRMED???

[storm jungle]

Yeah Titus' OG actor was Mark Strong whos actually a really famous hollywood actor, really good guy

[queen laurel]

Looks more like a skitarii

[queen laurel]

His voice is something

[storm jungle]

Has a staff and backpack, its a techpriest

[frosty stag]

Did you just make that?

[crystal forum]

holy shit this website is a goldmine!

[storm jungle]

Microsoft Paint

[green loom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JB_963L5o8&ab_channel=rkrim2008

Fortress monastery vibes

[crystal forum]

ah and i come back to SM 2 chat

[frosty stag]

Lmao

[crystal forum]

i need to point out that nearly all those squat names are guns or gun companies

there's no fucking way they didn't get sued for that

[frosty stag]

Game looks beautiful i cant wait

[frosty stag]

Lol

[storm jungle]

Its gonna melt my PC, cant wait either

[crystal forum]

some pretty obscure guns too like bergman

[frosty stag]

My 2080(?) can handle it probably

[queen laurel]

One thing that would be funny for this game though is somehow Grimskull survived, and his entrance line is " I'z Told ya i ain't done space marine"

[frosty stag]

One sec i gotta clarify with my brother on my graphics card

[crystal forum]

and the jorgensen

[green loom]

God even if the game might not be great, they at least nailed the vibe

[crystal forum]

yeah ok now im 100% sure the guy who made squats was a gun nut

[green loom]

They have like... 3 probably barely obscure names and the rest are blatant

[crystal forum]

that or he opened a book about WW2 guns

[crystal forum]

this is pre internet though

[queen laurel]

The game looks beautiful so you may be able to use it as you know finding ways for inspiration

[frosty stag]

Its a rtx 2070 super

[crystal forum]

nambu kalashnikov is probably my favorite 40k character

[frosty stag]

Lore wise wouldn’t only like 1 marine get sent?

[plush mason]

https://youtu.be/-YzgMb0AudY?t=379 that chimera driver gave 0 fucks

[green loom]

Nah

It varies but

This is a nid tendril

[crystal forum]

i will provide more squat lore after SM 2 discussion is over

[frosty stag]

Ok yeah fair enough i guess that is a big enough problem

[queen laurel]

Considering the situation from the videos I can expect that the marines have other marines around the planet it's just focused on the squad that we are playing

[crystal forum]

but not even a space marine chapter master would go fight alone

[queen laurel]

Usually to cover numbers multiple chapters are sent

[plush mason]

just like the first game yeah

[frosty stag]

Ooh

[green loom]

Titus is under a captain so there's probably a full company

[queen laurel]

yes exactly they are just dealing with their own mission

[plush mason]

yup

[green loom]

You divy up into squads, get pointed at a thing and told "Handle it"
And then the operation begins

[crystal forum]

SM are probably the least faithful games about 40k but they get a pass because it's about ultramarines

[green loom]

Uh ohhhh

[plush mason]

a 3 man squad seems small even for space marines

[queen laurel]

Is that thousand sons Terminator

[crystal forum]

is that old dread armour

[green loom]

Ye

To the former

They're Rubric termies

[crystal forum]

i've never seen a termi like that

[green loom]

Scarab occult terminators

[queen laurel]

It's the magic boys huh, back in the first game it was undivided and Khorne

[frosty stag]

Wait so is it a tyranid infestation or a chaos invasion

[green loom]

Both

[plush mason]

both

[crystal forum]

tyranids are just there because ultramarines

[queen laurel]

It seems to be both even in the first game you have to deal with the orks only for chaos to **** their heads in

[queen laurel]

bro is flexing

[crystal forum]

does titus have psych shit

[queen laurel]

no, but it has been shown that he is rather quite unusually resistant to the warp

[crystal forum]

oh right

main character syndrome i forgot

[queen laurel]

If you remember the the first game he was able to hold a warp power source no problem

[plush mason]

yeah he touched pure warp essence and was fine

should have killed him instantly

[queen laurel]

That was literally the reason why leandros got him in trouble

[plush mason]

yup

[crystal forum]

so he's either a blank or something entirely new that the game will invent

[queen laurel]

If he was a blank his presence would have an effect to everyone near him, but that is the likeliest answer

[frosty stag]

Oh fun

[crystal forum]

both choices would be terrible

[plush mason]

making Titus fit with the wider lore is a lost cause. he was captain of the 2nd company in the first game after all

[queen laurel]

And they didn't explain how he was able to be very freaking resistant to the warp

even with his shield i doubt he would survive

[crystal forum]

it just annoys me that it would have been perfectly possible to make him fit with lore

even if he's an OP character

[arctic talon]

Marines literally can’t be blanks

As far as we know

Everytime it’s been attempted the subject just fucking dies

[plush mason]

he is a named space marine so ofc he is an OP character lol

[queen laurel]

yeah, that's why him touching pure warp energy and surviving somehow is a big plothole

[crystal forum]

right so that's the "make shit up" choice. whatever's the reason it would cause even more issues with lore

[arctic talon]

Oh hey they’re in stygies VIII colors

[crystal forum]

maybe a chaos god is using him and providing protection. maybe he's just built different and he's literally a living saint like saint celestine

[plush mason]

the only known way to survive doing that is to follow chaos thus why he was sent to the inquisition

[frosty stag]

Is henry cavel gonna be an ultra marine?

[queen laurel]

yes he's unsually weird resistance to the warp got him in trouble

[crystal forum]

im willing to bet the game will go with him being favoured by the emperor as an explanation because that also has been a convenient excuse for writers

[plush mason]

afaik the show's plot hasnt even been finalized yet

[frosty stag]

Fair nuff

[plush mason]

thats what i have been thinking since the first game lol

[crystal forum]

still lazy writing. if the point of him surviving warp stuff was to show how powerful he is then why make it such a mysterious thing

[arctic talon]

Bcs we were supposed to get 2 more games

[crystal forum]

he already spent the entire game murdering entire armies

[arctic talon]

Originally

But meh

[plush mason]

yeah THQ went belly up

so all the plans for SM and the other 40k titles they had went up in smoke

[crystal forum]

was SM successful at launch

[plush mason]

it was yeah

[arctic talon]

Not really

It was decently successful

But it didn’t like explode

[plush mason]

yeah

[crystal forum]

huh i thought it was the big 40k game

[plush mason]

and SM didnt sink THQ

[storm jungle]

Yeah but it was a 40k game

so not really popular

[crystal forum]

darktide had a shit ton of people at launch

[plush mason]

back then 40k was a lot more niche

[arctic talon]

Yeah they turned a profit on space marine

40K is still niche

It just is more recognizable now

[plush mason]

yup

SM helped it become so lol

[crystal forum]

as somebody who didn't even know what 40k was before 2019 i'll say that it's 100% due to memes and community creations

[arctic talon]

It wasn’t

It really wasn’t

GW just stopped being stupid

[crystal forum]

you don't get it you've been in here too long

[arctic talon]

Pre 8e GW genuinely

Was an absolute burning dumpster fire

And if you think they’re anti consumer now

💀

[crystal forum]

GW is dog shit at advertising

[plush mason]

i learned what 40k was due to DOW2 lol

[storm jungle]

100k isnt a lot in the wider picture of things.

A big number of player dropouts was also because the game being niche and also not super complete.

[arctic talon]

They are

[crystal forum]

ask a random person on the internet what krieg is

[queen laurel]

dawn of war dark crusade first ever character i picked is Gorgutz

[crystal forum]

those 100k mostly came from brand recognition alone im telling ya

[arctic talon]

It means war in German is the answer you’ll get

Imo

[storm jungle]

That and expecting a mindless shooter

which Darktide is not

theres a reason the joke of most vet players being cod players exists

[crystal forum]

you're too stuck in 40k fandoms trust me an absurd amount of people know what 40k is without even knowing it's a tabletop game

[storm jungle]

They really dont.

40k is in its own area.

[arctic talon]

I’m not too stuck in 40K fandoms

Gona be honest

[plush mason]

krieg is like the most commonly known german word lol. been so for almost 100 years in fact

[storm jungle]

^

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

Krieg as a word is also used everywhere

[plush mason]

that and blitz which means lighting

[arctic talon]

If you say space marine

You’ll prolly get a warhammer response lol

[queen laurel]

My fingers turning into Eldritch pentagrams trying to dodge 5 things

[arctic talon]

Bcs poster child and all that

[crystal forum]

i swear more people know about krieg than space marines

[plush mason]

they make good ones that for sure

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/armored-core-6-gif-13050792135418951985

[arctic talon]

The German word yeah

What a space marine is

Prolly not

[crystal forum]

no krieg in 40k

[arctic talon]

Nah

💀

[crystal forum]

we need to ask George Washington himself

[plush mason]

NG+ makes that fight comically easy lol

[arctic talon]

Yeah bcs you have more options lol

Balteus is pretty hard bcs your loadout options kinda suck

[plush mason]

yeah

that and you dont know wtf to do or what is going on

[queen laurel]

https://youtube.com/shorts/_c_l7Ji_hGE?si=hOjuObP5u5ErH6Fk an outsider learning about tyranids

[crystal forum]

somebody tell him that nids were inspired by xenos

[arctic talon]

Lol

Real

[crystal forum]

also xenomorph lore is pure dogshit so we can't even compare lol

[plush mason]

xenomorphs are all about the horror so a lot of what they can do is unknown for that fear factor lol

[storm jungle]

yeah xenomorphs arent a horde army

well kinda

small-scale i guess

[crystal forum]

i will always remember that xenomorph in alien vs predator that force feeds eggs to pregnant women. that shit isn't even subtle about being the producer's fetish

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[queen laurel]

It was literally a hybrid too, a Predalien

[storm jungle]

That scene "inspired" a lot of people believe me

[crystal forum]

depends on the movie lol. it's very inconsistent but sometimes xenomorphs are as strong as nids and have entire planets at their control

[queen laurel]

The kind of inspiration that feeds Slannesh

[storm jungle]

Hmmm

[crystal forum]

we were never supposed to know xenomorph lore. the first movie was supposed to be an unknown horror from space

[storm jungle]

yeah but

MONEY

What if Jesus was a Xenomorph?

-Riddle Scott

[queen laurel]

This reminds me in dead by daylight, it isn't even something higher ranking or unique, it's literally a fucking drone

Not a warrior not a pretorian

a Drone

[arctic talon]

You get to use turrets against it lol

[crystal forum]

i guess xenomorphs would be pretty strong as genestealers

[storm jungle]

to be fair minus the impregnation kinda they are basically the same thing

also the first genestealers in 40k were literally xenomorphs, like exactly the same thing.

They started moving away from it later

[queen laurel]

yeah in modern day I'm sure even the hive mind would be mildly impressed with Xenomorphs and they might even try trying to take a few pieces for its own army

[crimson kayak]

I mean nids kinda do all the xenomorphs do already

[arctic talon]

Tbh acid blood is like a standard feature

For nids

[crystal forum]

having facehuggers skittering around an underhive would be terrifying

[arctic talon]

Real

[crimson kayak]

I mean they do have the little worm fuckers with claws

Can't remember the name

For nids I mean

[queen laurel]

Rippers?

[crimson kayak]

Ye

[storm jungle]

yeah but

rippers just eat you

[crystal forum]

i guess the genestealer method of slowly turning the population also adds that UFO lizard people conspiracy aspect to it

[storm jungle]

a facehugger literally puts a monster inside you

that is a lot more terrifying

lmao

[storm jungle]

GSC in general are basically a parody of communist revolutions and also worker revolts yeah

[crystal forum]

anybody with a helmet would be immune is the annoying part

[storm jungle]

Nah

[queen laurel]

And if successful they can pull something like this

[storm jungle]

facehugger saliva can turn acidic to melt through your helmet

its how they get the first guys in the movie

who was in a fully sealed suit

[crimson kayak]

Ah yes, the Xenosaurus Rex

[normal light]

Austronaut like suit

[crystal forum]

fuck i forgor that

[storm jungle]

Yeah it sfucked

they gotta pry the helmet off before they see its fully attached to Kayne's face

and the helmet glass was THICK

[crystal forum]

space marines would definitely be immune though. i doubt facehuggers would even be able to wrap their tails around thick ass necks

[queen laurel]

This is a crocodile xenomorph from a comic where Batman fights the xeno morphs

[green loom]

Predalien

[crimson kayak]

The design it's definetly different between the two images lol

Anyhow best Xenomorph is the Android one from the comics

No doubt

[crystal forum]

the comics are wild

[crystal forum]

you know what would be a more interesting alien enemy in 40k

the thing

[queen laurel]

yes jeri the man himself

[storm jungle]

god the inner mouth holding the cigar i forgot about that

[storm jungle]

The Thing would definitely vibe

the fact that it can assimilate anything doesnt help either

[queen laurel]

I still remember the texts you sent

[crystal forum]

would it? ive never read the comics and the movies never show what the thing's ultimate goals are

[crimson kayak]

Just send the redcowls lol

[storm jungle]

Basically to spread and infect a populace

[green loom]

I may draw Ken as an ultramarine

[crimson kayak]

There's too much passion for hot stuff for the thing to survive properly in 40k

[crystal forum]

like something that always frustrates me about the movies is the thing capable of multiplying itself or are detached segments still part of its body

[storm jungle]

Yes.

[crystal forum]

if it can create an army out of itself then yeah that's a large scale issue

[storm jungle]

Yeah its why they stop it from getting to the mainland

and its just Charles and Kurt Russell left knowing they are gonna die in the cold

[crystal forum]

but the thing also just wanted to survive. it's implied that it's just acting out of instinct i think

[storm jungle]

yeah but its largely unexplained

which is why the movie works

its just a "bacteria" in a sense

we dont have a clear idea of what it wants

[crystal forum]

it did kill the space ship's crew before crashing i think

[storm jungle]

Yeee

also it was building a ship itself

which shows its extremely intelligent

[crystal forum]

ok well if we go with the idea that it can infinitely multiply

how OP would it be in 40k

[queen laurel]

Still funny

[crimson kayak]

Wait

Wait a fucking minute

How are those messages from November 2023

[storm jungle]

Time travel

[green loom]

They're the 11th of last month

Dummy

[crimson kayak]

Oh, yeah I'm stupid

[crystal forum]

some countries have very stupid calendar formats dont worry

[celest dome]

What's stupid is writing Month/Day/Year

[crystal forum]

that's what im saying

[queen laurel]

that's just how things are here so

eh

[crystal forum]

my country officially does that but nobody writes it that way

so windows calendar by default is stupid

[celest dome]

Holy ISO is still best Year/Month/Day

[crystal forum]

i write the month in letters because i care

i will now go on the thing wiki to see if it would be OP in 40k

[celest dome]

I'll say it's OP in both 40k and Dragon Ball cause it'll piss enough people at once

[crimson kayak]

It's literally weak to heat so it wouldn't lol

[arctic talon]

What faction doesn’t burn stuff in 40K

[crimson kayak]

Exactly

[arctic talon]

Ig nids?

But bioplasma I’d assume

Burns stuff

[crimson kayak]

Bioplasma and lots, lots of acid

[arctic talon]

Tau breacher squads should get access to flamers

[queen laurel]

Burna boyz

I'm also I'm sure orks can tell when another ork is off

They will immediately light up the ork that is not acting right

[crimson kayak]

Isn't that how they respond to genestealer cults?

[queen laurel]

yes

what makes you think the thing will be any different?

[crimson kayak]

Oh nothing, just clarification

[queen laurel]

Yeah besides the imperium a lot of factions can tell something is off

Good luck trying to get through tau checkpoints without being regularly checked up

[storm jungle]

The new Nid artillery unit has a Pyovore variant

you can guess what that does

[arctic talon]

Lol

The pyovore is bioplasma isn’t it

Or does it shoot fire now lmao

[queen laurel]

also absorbing tyranid bio matter ends very badly

So i think the thing would have extra trouble with that

[storm jungle]

The beast’s network of stomachs gurgles with bio-chemical nastiness, which drools from its acidic maw and erupts from its dorsal symbiote as caustic jets of flammable gas

[arctic talon]

Lol

[crimson kayak]

It's literally shin godzilla beam

[queen laurel]

Now this got me thinking, how destructive the tyranids will become if they absorb Godzilla dna

[crimson kayak]

Depends on who of the 1000 variants

Because it can go from literal dream kid godzilla to a fucking planetoid

And then move to the first American one wich is a big lizard to shin godzilla that's literally close to the ultimate lifeforn

[normal light]

What started such discussions?

[crimson kayak]

Considering it can adapt on the fly and create new subspecies

[queen laurel]

Let's take heisei then

This guy has very potent regeneration

Control of radiation and on aquatic life style

[crimson kayak]

Ye this one a lot

Especially considering the 360 nuke he can make and it's burning form

[queen laurel]

Yeah base form its atomic breath and ability to release nuclear pulses is already devastating

[crimson kayak]

Shin would be scary as fuck as it would mean nids gain on the fly adaptation

[queen laurel]

Yeah, and they would find the way to negate the painful transformation

They can just transform without any problems

They can make bio plasma even more volatile

[crystal forum]

sometimes you can just enjoy small wikis

[crystal forum]

problem is that by the time the imperium even know wtf it's dealing with the thing could have already assimilated an entire hive city

[crisp heath]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GpYIuo3xGA8&pp=ygUTZm9jdXMgZW50ZXJ0YWlubWVudA%3D%3D

[crimson kayak]

I mean, exterminatus is made exactly for this kind of impossible situations

And in general it would just mean scorched earth everywhere you go

[crystal forum]

you know what's even more fucked though? the thing can build itself a space ship out of tractors and shit

[crimson kayak]

Now I imagine the 3d films godzilla, considering he beats that version of Ghidorah who's literally A God

[queen laurel]

Ghidorah was cheating but yeah, the structure of that thing was weird

[crystal forum]

apparently a character in the movies says that the entire earth population could be assimilated in 27000 hours if the thing had escaped antarctica

[queen laurel]

Muscular tree fibers that literally support its weight

That are infused with metal

[crystal forum]

that's 3 years

i guess the thing would be pretty bad against orks though because it wouldn't be emitting ork magic

[crimson kayak]

Wich tbf, it wouldn't have even done considering how it's plans were mostly "get the fuck out with ma spaceship"

[crystal forum]

it doesn't even need to willingly invade a planet is the thing. just by being in an underhive and killing its way to a space ship it would be leaving a ton of smaller forms

all those forms would then go on to kill their way to freedom and it goes in a downward spiral after that

then once the officials start noticing the things will see them as a threat and they'll start killing higher echelons of the hive

before you know it an entire hive city is things

man this is fun

what other 80's villain can be applied to 40k

[plush mason]

was the glowing eyes really needed?

[queen laurel]

Yeah, Orks can easily tell something is off

So even if the thing transforms into a perfect copy

That thing will get blown up to bits

[storm jungle]

Thats probably to showcase them being "buffed" by the Warrior

[crimson kayak]

Glowing eyes It's been a thing since the 2022 armouring of a space marine video

[storm jungle]

they dont usually have them in normal gameplay

oh wait he means the marine

[crimson kayak]

Lol

[crystal forum]

the first thing i noticed about the trailer is how floaty the movement looks

and a nitpicky detail is how they didn't make the player character's feet walk up and down stairs correctly

[nocturne crest]

Tbh, before it was revealed to be Thousands Sons, I thought it would have been Iron Warriors or Death Guard fuckery.

Both have experience with the Nids.

[plush mason]

it is unexpected to see Tzeentchian forces get a spot light

[crystal forum]

also i can't be the only one that could barely make out the nids from the environment

[plush mason]

i guess chaos isnt gona just replace the nids like they did with the orks in the first game

[crystal forum]

also the water effects look like something out of 2010

guardsman AI seems to be set to "wander and shoot"

this guy isn't even aiming

[plush mason]

i dont expect much from SM2

it will just be a TPS horde shooter

and so long as they nail that the game will do well enough

[green loom]

Folks are theorising it may be a funky flashback thing?

[crystal forum]

the ragdolls look funny as fuck though

i appreciate when games let you have fun with blowing stuff up

[plush mason]

or Titus is actively being pulled into the warp

[crystal forum]

the animations for the player character look decent but holy shit if you look at the vehicles you can see a lot of issues

[crisp heath]

I find it amusing when people dig too deep on Development Footage

[crystal forum]

amuse yourself my friend

anyways the "gameplay trailer" seems to show very little gameplay

even the HUD is turned off

it's clearly trying to show off the graphics so i'm going to nitpick the hell out of it

the cloth physics are pretty cool. you can tell they put a lot of effort into making the player character look good

i've also noticed that blood on your character can be removed by walking in water

neat detail

[arctic talon]

The guard AI in this game is better then SM1

By virtue of actually dealing damage to the targets they hit

[crystal forum]

nvm actually the blood just goes away on its own

[storm jungle]

Can they show any combat footage that isnt just you fighting Gaunts and Warriors.

[arctic talon]

No

[crystal forum]

can they show any combat footage that shows gameplay

[arctic talon]

No

[storm jungle]

That was gameplay.

Ngl i hope theres more to it

[crystal forum]

that was an intern button mashing a test demo

[celest dome]

SM 2 is gonna be a walking Sim

[storm jungle]

I will admit i feel weird saying this

but i got a bit bored watching him shoot into blurry gaunt swarms constantly.

[arctic talon]

Tbh

I’m sure chaos will change up the gameplay a bit

[storm jungle]

Hope so

[arctic talon]

Because you’ll be dealing with multiple nid warrior equivalents

[green loom]

The audio mixing and quality is fucked

[arctic talon]

Nid warriors seem a bit underwhelming

[crystal forum]

i wouldn't say no but these trailers always make games feel like walking sims by showing off the missions with a lot of shit going on

[arctic talon]

But that was expected tbh

[green loom]

I figure with more hands on we'll see better feedback

But the plasmas are unforgiveable

[celest dome]

Did his Plasma pistol feel bad for you too ?

[green loom]

https://tenor.com/view/planta-mitosis-caricatura-pea-shooter-plants-vs-zombies-gif-10877628

[storm jungle]

Honestly yes

[arctic talon]

Plasma pistol just feels like a gun

It isn’t like

[green loom]

It's passable as le generic gun

But it's like DOOM reboot plasma

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[green loom]

Not 40k Plasma

[celest dome]

That's 100% what I though

[nocturne crest]

Can you imagine if SM 2 ends with Titus turning traitor?

[crystal forum]

right? i wasn't going to say it because it might be the person's skill issue but holy shit it's so hard to tell what's going on

[arctic talon]

Nah it’s got motion blur on lol

[celest dome]

Would be baller on their part

[arctic talon]

You can’t see shit

[storm jungle]

They definitely need more Nid units because man

[crystal forum]

that's the compression loss from the video. im talking about how everything is brown and grey

[arctic talon]

Oh

[green loom]

All they've shown is

Gaunts

Warriors

And spores

[nocturne crest]

Last section of the game is fighting the remnants of the guard.

[green loom]

That you can barely see

[arctic talon]

There’s art of a lictor

[green loom]

And that one tentacle faced guy

[crystal forum]

you can tell the youtube video's struggling because of all the shit going on

[storm jungle]

Guys look

I found an easter egg nid

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/783213820544811018/1146514080069320775/Screenshot_20230825-165151_YouTube.jpg

really cool huh

[green loom]

Explodes mind

[storm jungle]

💀

[crystal forum]

pancakes

[arctic talon]

Blows up pancakes with mind

[crystal forum]

Ha

[green loom]

Blows up mind with pancakes

[arctic talon]

My fuvkin mind

[storm jungle]

🥞

[crystal forum]

im going to be super cynical

this game is going to tank

[storm jungle]

Nah

[green loom]

R6S server? Murder!

[arctic talon]

Imo it’s gona be like space marine 1

[storm jungle]

^

[arctic talon]

It’ll be a 6/10 game

[spare osprey]

There was a pic of a lictor wasn’t there.

[storm jungle]

Yeah as a shadow

lmao

[arctic talon]

That’s a 9/10 if you like warhammer

[green loom]

I think it flopping or not

[arctic talon]

It isn’t flopping

[storm jungle]

This is an important point.

[arctic talon]

Imo

[green loom]

Will depend if it has good multiplayer and customization

[arctic talon]

But it isn’t gona explode

[crystal forum]

correct me if im wrong but SM 1 had its charm

[storm jungle]

40k fans are like star wars fans

you put things from 40k into anything

and they'll go

[crystal forum]

this game feels generic as fuck

[storm jungle]

"OMG"

[arctic talon]

SM 1 was criticized for being shitty gears of war

On launch

[storm jungle]

Yeah that.

[arctic talon]

Despite not being like gears of war

Ironicially

[storm jungle]

This will probably be a cult classic.

[crystal forum]

every game was gears of war back then

[green loom]

You're complaining about this game being brown and praising the one that came out mid Ultra gritty brown trend on XBOX?

[arctic talon]

I do not like the ultra gritty brown trend

It’s ugly

[green loom]

Fkn

[crystal forum]

listen you little

[green loom]

At least you see mud

In 1 all you had was

[spare osprey]

Nah I’ll be honest

[crystal forum]

that was a stylistic choice

[arctic talon]

It was a forge world

[spare osprey]

I’m hype asf for this game

[arctic talon]

Tbf

[green loom]

"Dirty factory"
"Dirty factory"
"Dirty factory"

[arctic talon]

Good to hear

[spare osprey]

I think the cynic in a lot of people is just running rampant especially after stuff like darktide

[green loom]

"Dusty factory"

[crystal forum]

are we talking about the brown trend of the late 2000's

because i have an answer for that

[storm jungle]

Im gonna wait to see more but the presentation has been really bland atm

[crystal forum]

it was graphics

[storm jungle]

I hope its just the marketing team being stupid

[arctic talon]

Nah I’m cynical about any non miniature release lol

[green loom]

They could've definitely chosen a better hive fleet though

[crystal forum]

by making everything chonky and brown you hide the graphic limitations

[arctic talon]

Leviathan

Again

[crystal forum]

i actually ENJOY brown

[arctic talon]

We will never be free of hive fleet leviathan

[spare osprey]

Nah here we go Ravener and a Lictor

[green loom]

Or maybe like

Non Cadian guard

[storm jungle]

gay ass

[arctic talon]

Why the lictor green

[storm jungle]

Because this part did make me go AWOOGA

[arctic talon]

Lmfao

The Russ

[spare osprey]

Venom?

[storm jungle]

Eminem???

[arctic talon]

No but why are it’s eyes green

That’s what I’m interested about

[crystal forum]

the part where the chimera decides to visibly switch animation sequences?

[spare osprey]

Idk ask his mom and dad

[green loom]

Idk I really like the scenery ngl

But for some reason the fkn

moron presenting it

[storm jungle]

the scenery is great

[storm jungle]

this

[green loom]

Decides to look at the floor

[arctic talon]

They’re really putting that world war s game engine to work lol

[storm jungle]

like we were seeing a summary execution at the start of the video

and he turns away from it

[green loom]

Instead of showing off "wow cool background"

[crystal forum]

guess what? it's going to be a single mission in the game like that

[green loom]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-harvey-family-feud-kill-steve-harvey-kill-family-feud-kill-gif-21764693

[spare osprey]

Something I like about most 40K games. Map design is just always FIRE

[green loom]

Also wait

Ur wrong

[celest dome]

We really could use that tbh

[crystal forum]

darktide

[spare osprey]

?

Ain’t it like

2 planets

[storm jungle]

I think one thing i dislike is uh

[arctic talon]

Is a first person co-op

[storm jungle]

the Nid invasion looks extremely tame

[green loom]

ITS BLUE TOO

[arctic talon]

Yeah

The nids look

[storm jungle]

there should be toxic spore clouds and massive tentacles in the air and shit

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

like we are full-way into a planetary invasion

[spare osprey]

Tbf

[arctic talon]

The planet doesn’t look fucked enough

Tbh

[storm jungle]

^

[spare osprey]

I think it’s the beginning of it

[frosty stag]

Thought that was warframe for a sec ngl

[arctic talon]

The void calls

[storm jungle]

Yeah my hope is the planet worsens as the game progresses

[crystal forum]

i see more attention to detail by FS than in any of the trailers for SM 2

[storm jungle]

Oh come on

now thats just being mean

[green loom]

Yeah in the coop trailer they talk about how they've only just made contact with the tendrils on two planets

[near wasp]

[spare osprey]

Oh easily gonna happen.

[frosty stag]

The man in the walls keeps calling me cry baby ):

[arctic talon]

Well if it’s just started

[storm jungle]

yeee i hope so

[spare osprey]

There was a scene in the trailer

Think it was a forest

[arctic talon]

Then the fleet hasn’t begun spore bombardment yet

[spare osprey]

Had tons of nid bits everywhere growing

[green loom]

I mean they're evidently not averse to dramatic shifts in scenery lol

[storm jungle]

Lmao true

also god love that silver tower

[near wasp]

That looks so cool

[spare osprey]

Hope it’s not just T sons. I wanna see daemons and shit

[green loom]

What I'm concerned about is that the nids will just be like

A drawn out prologue

[arctic talon]

It’s gona be daemons

[green loom]

Before the meat of the chaos shit happens

[storm jungle]

You can see Tzaangors and Rubrics in the distance

[crystal forum]

literally all this game has to do is get an entertaining story and 40k nerds will call it amazing

[storm jungle]

i think also Horrors

they are REALLY faraway tho

[near wasp]

The lascannon firing was just awesome

[arctic talon]

Real

There’s like

Chaos bloby things

[spare osprey]

I mean

[arctic talon]

I can’t tell if they’re horrors

Or chaos spawn

[spare osprey]

What else is there to a game. It plays good

Has a good story

That sounds good

[storm jungle]

Do you remember games?

[crystal forum]

i didn't mention the gameplay

[green loom]

You can't tell because the quality and draw distance are so fucked

That they're literally rendering in and out

[arctic talon]

World war z engine is funny like that

[crystal forum]

it could have the shittiest gameplay in existence and yall will play it and quote its story for a decade

[green loom]

I thought it was like some weird warpy quirk but nah

You can see them losing detail lmfao

[spare osprey]

Ok?

I think you’re forgetting that actual thing in practice

Dawn of War 3

[crystal forum]

there's a lot of parts in the gameplay trailer where in game you're clearly supposed to look at the scenery but weirdly enough it's ignored

[arctic talon]

Dawn of war 3 💀

That story wasn’t even good

[crystal forum]

this looks like a mom get the camera scene. it even has the ammo pickup to make players look in that direction

[spare osprey]

Exactly

[green loom]

This one time I'm glad the protags don't wear helmets because the desing here sucks

*design

[spare osprey]

If a game has a good story and a bad gameplay it’s just a bad game.

[crystal forum]

is that the point i was making though

[spare osprey]

You’re saying 40K fans are just gonna sit through it and go “this is the game of the year” which like

No

Game hasn’t even come out yet like gawd damn

Judging that the gameplay sucks via a trailer. I mean Boltgun didn’t necessarily look like anything special and that was still fun asf

[crystal forum]

boltgun is a straighforward game. if you've played any doom/quake inspired game you'll know exactly what you're in for. It knew it audience and it catered to it

a lot of people weren't satisfied with the gameplay because it wasn't made for them

i'm one of those people. i can admit it's a decent game but it gets repetitive for me.

but who is SM 2 made for?

[spare osprey]

People who loved Space Marine

It’s a sequel for a reason

[celest dome]

As someone who enjoy quite a few of the Doom clones, Boltgun seemed not special enough

[crystal forum]

and those people will rip it to shreds if it's not as good as the original

[spare osprey]

Ok?

Obviously

[crystal forum]

to me it feels like the game is trying to appeal to a wider audience. when a game puts so much effort into making good looking graphics it's because it wants random shmucks to buy it for eye candy alone

and sadly that's how the industry is now. making it look good sells the product

[arctic talon]

Boltgun is a subpar doom clone unfortunately

[spare osprey]

So you have an issue with the game looking good?

[arctic talon]

It’s also not balanced at ultra nightmare/exterminatus so it loses points

[spare osprey]

Like yeah ik what you mean

But the game ain’t even out dude

[arctic talon]

Lord of change makes the doom 2 archvile

Look balanced

[spare osprey]

You’re predicting that it’s gonna be shitty just cause they showed off a couple of cool graphics

[crystal forum]

no, people associate good looking graphics with good games.

[spare osprey]

What’s the issue with a game looking good?

Like yeah some good looking games are bad

And some good looking games are good

[crystal forum]

combine the graphics with an entertaining story, sprinkle in some named characters and boom you have the talk of the town for the next 10 years in the 40k community

[spare osprey]

So

You’re upset a good game will be praised

It’s good graphics, entertaining story, the game play is yet to be seen so there’s no reason to only see it from a cynical view

[crystal forum]

if that's enough to make a game good in your opinion, then i can see why we'd disagree

[green loom]

I think what he's complaining about is that they pumped too many resources into graphics and may have neglected the other areas as a result?

[spare osprey]

But like what areas

We don’t know how the game plays

Cause we haven’t played it

[crystal forum]

to me that's what darktide did

[green loom]

Yeah it's a maybe

He just skeptic

[spare osprey]

As am I

But like

[green loom]

Ye no reason arguing

We'll see when it releases

[spare osprey]

Skepticism shouldn’t really equal criticism imo

Just wait and see if the game is trash or not

[crystal forum]

that's just my first impression from the gameplay trailer alone. i wanted to ignore it but it gets posted so many times here lol

[crisp heath]

Taking it too seriously when it said development footage, enjoy what we have been given

[crystal forum]

idk if i missed this but was a release date scheduled

[spare osprey]

Nah not atm

Just says coming 2023

So I’m thinking December maybe

[crystal forum]

winter 2023 apparently

which is like a single month

what a funny way of saying december

i guess they'll release it around that time for christmas sales

anyways 3-4 months won't be enough to change some of the visible flaws. they wont pump out better guard AI in that time

unless the trailer gameplay is cobbled together just for footage which would be an even bigger issue

[arctic talon]

The ally AI being ass is just status quo

Tbh

[crystal forum]

shoutout to the bioshock infinite trailer https://youtu.be/WYRePGtK074?si=MZB5-7gTpnqQf7hI

[arctic talon]

Since the ally AI in space marine 1 was uh

Really bad

And it also did 1 damage per shot

[crystal forum]

i dont even mind the fact that it's useless for gameplay honestly

it just looks like shit

[celest dome]

Wait, is that Halestorm ? For the music ?

[crystal forum]

no idea but infinite had some bawler music

[celest dome]

Aparently not, it's Nico Vega

[crystal forum]

https://youtu.be/gU9xBU71NTg?si=gfIv3tg-PtsXSCTB

i remember letting the menu open for long enough played a cutscene and that music

was so fucking cool

[celest dome]

A game with good "american" folk music is Wasteland 3

[crystal forum]

i never noticed the music

was too busy yelling at my friend while playing on hardest difficulty

[green loom]

I remember when games added random pop songs as trailer tracks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJqxfkgSUog&ab_channel=DragonAge

[crystal forum]

dude i HATED that

[celest dome]

In fariness they still often do it

[crystal forum]

when it was just a radio song with added drums

[green loom]

Yeah but nowadays the quality is semi tolerable and at least edited to work barely

[crystal forum]

call of duty is the worst offender

[celest dome]

Battlefied 1 was alright

[crystal forum]

https://youtu.be/qAUYNIDEJ6o?si=Y8Yr-jEU1Zk_Id_w

[green loom]

All these industry juggernauts dumping out shit like this meanwhile wings of liberty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSGmPpidDvo&ab_channel=StarCraft

[crystal forum]

WHY ARE YOU RUINING A GOOD SONG

[crystal forum]

that just sounds like generic movie music though

[celest dome]

Still one of the best Suiting up animation

[green loom]

At least it's purpose made for it!

[crystal forum]

im trying to think of a trailer with good original music

[green loom]

Wrath cinematic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCr7y4SLhck&ab_channel=WorldofWarcraft

[crystal forum]

oh right

https://youtu.be/SgSrpnW0EmU?si=506W2qHnDgCoATSl

[arctic talon]

Armored core 6 story trailer

I am not biased as someone who enjoys mecha

I swear

[green loom]

Actually

Unironically Vermintide 2?

[celest dome]

Darktide had a good music for the trailer

But it was game music

[green loom]

Left 4 dead 2 as well

[celest dome]

The dude who made the Thing, he is making a video game and it use Bon Jovis' Shot through the heart

John Carpenter ?

[crystal forum]

FUCK i forgot how good it is

[green loom]

ikr?

A riff to kill all riffs

[crystal forum]

still recognizable man

that trailer just slaps too

[green loom]

Valve was just
Impressively ahead on quality

[celest dome]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goVfYvVx5F8&ab_channel=PlayStation

This one

[crystal forum]

the stairs joke

the unfunny nick joke about chocolate helicopters