40k-lore-chat

[green loom]

I'm sure you'll love it

[spare osprey]

I said this as well

I just

Can’t understand how making an unbeatable character

Or someone who’s just perfect at anything

Would ever be satisfying

[green loom]

I have some prime material ready for review I just don't want to post it here in case someone from another server sees

[crimson kayak]

Also literally doesn't talk about how Perturabo seemingly got a fucking Vaul artifact to forge the sword with

[undone zodiac]

"You are weeeaaak vulcaaan"

[green loom]

Probably answer?
Children

[spare osprey]

Man no thought was put into this thing

[crystal forum]

i think people who make OP characters just don't watch a lot of media. you can't make such characters have interesting plot lines because by nature they already have reached the end point of their journey

make them lose their power or something

[queen laurel]

Oh yeah this art style is the same guy who made my one of my favorite fanmade characters

Beastboss Skarsnagga

[spare osprey]

Hell, there’s a dreadnought from the heresy, A tech librarian and a fuckin dude with treads who’s only lore is “he’s unflinching”

[undone zodiac]

Honestly, i want bools from genestealer cults perspective

[spare osprey]

Orniris does some of the best 40K stuff. Shame is a bunch of the people with money to pay him are total shitheads with writing.

[green loom]

I found a fists successor that's

Interesting

In a derogatory way

[queen laurel]

Also the lore on this character is extremely badass

[undone zodiac]

[spare osprey]

It takes a away a really important thing when writing a character imo. Relatability

[green loom]

That's Orniris lol

[spare osprey]

Even super humans are still human. Idk how you can fuck it up anymore

[queen laurel]

I can't make relatable characters why did you think i pick orks?

[undone zodiac]

Oh i know
"Paint them blue"

[queen laurel]

That's why my war boss has a powerful klaw that has the hyperphase blades

can double as a power fist and also has a twin linked shoota

[spare osprey]

I think some orks can still be relatable. Just in extreme cases

But I mean I got a fella in my warband who’s just been through absolute hell.

And if I just made him absolutely wreck any battle field he goes on

I think it takes away from that

[undone zodiac]

I really liked the kommando nob in the catachan devil book

He was unusually reasonable ork

[green loom]

I liked the orks in that book where they interrogate Makari

[spare osprey]

I think space marines are best when their humanity shines despite their enormous power.

It’s a major reason I love fallen

They’re some of the most human marines I’ve read about

Doesn’t mean I don’t love a good Calgar massacre tbf

[queen laurel]

I actually made my own clan of ork specialized in rescue, one of their qualities is that they don't take humans slaves and they find civilians boring to fight and a waste of a good choppa or shoota

[green loom]

Here's a tasting

[spare osprey]

But damn if I relate more to a dark eldar than your space marine

Ya done something wild

Sigismund was just the poster child. Buri was the real favorite

[green loom]

There's a lot more, and I don't think it gets better

[undone zodiac]

Space marines act bit too much like robots

[queen laurel]

@storm jungle sorry for the ping but i blame you for this

[undone zodiac]

Stop

[spare osprey]

Foul

[undone zodiac]

[spare osprey]

Highly recommend Lions new book

Some of the best space marines I’ve read in a while

Damn iron hands

And their dad

Perty the gorgon

[green loom]

Remember how when

Sigismund just considered the whole religious thing

And slightly went against what dorn wanted

He was immediately disowned?

[spare osprey]

Mhm

Dear god

Jean seed

https://tenor.com/view/ave-fénix-jean-grey-x-men-gif-12287924

Wolverine is gonna be happy

[green loom]

Have you read the entire thing

[spare osprey]

I have

Guard chapter

With guard vehicles

So

Fantastic

[green loom]

Protecting a single system

[spare osprey]

I love homebrewers man

[green loom]

His reward

For, in his own words, going against orders from dorn

[spare osprey]

Multiple STC’s

[green loom]

Was being given his own planet and chapter and independence from the imperium

[queen laurel]

I was afraid of trying to make my own stuff because i was like they won't fit then i saw orks in warhammer and i just literally straight up

[spare osprey]

Orks are quite the canvas

[green loom]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/677600317063561223/1142492248563515463/video0-104.mov

[spare osprey]

Meanwhile my ass is just putting wales in space

[green loom]

Me when I read another well written homebrew

[spare osprey]

Cause he’s literally me

[queen laurel]

Yes, i made clan that specifically likes doing dangerous rescue missions and they are a sub klan of the blood axe, i even added that they give their customers free squigs, results may vary

[spare osprey]

Yay squigs

[queen laurel]

Not only that they tend to also give the people they rescued their own improvements just like your average pain boy to an average ork, so it's uncommon to see an inquisitor that got asked to be rescued get a new prosthetic arm with a built-in kannon

[spare osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/nod-kermit-nod-nodding-gif-24624072

[queen laurel]

But the unfortunate part is being saved by my klan is considered shameful and execution is common

So they tend to try their best to keep their patient alive

[spare osprey]

I had no plans on going to Paris so they may rescue me as much as they wish

[queen laurel]

Shut it it was a miss input

[spare osprey]

Alr had to find the most low quality meme I could

[queen laurel]

Funny coincidence i literally have a ork kratos

[crimson kayak]

Guard chapter?

[spare osprey]

Guard tanks, look like guard, colored like em

[spare osprey]

Gork and Mork gotta watch they ass

[queen laurel]

Funny i actually have another one

[celest dome]

Those axes look nice

[crimson kayak]

God damn people really still don't understand they can canonically give power armour to humans too if they want

[spare osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/eh-meh-jim-jim-halpert-the-office-gif-25317293

[crimson kayak]

This is getting out of hand, now there's two of them

[crystal forum]

i have yet to meet an ork that can survive a battle cannon to the chest

guard rules

[queen laurel]

Is that a new iron jawz model?

Damn that looks sick

[green loom]

Ye

[winter vessel]

love how my question gets unanswered when some guy chose to pose a picture of of a land raider on the topic of automatic copyright detections.

[green loom]

What was your question

[crystal forum]

ratio

i'm not just some guy i'm the janitor

[winter vessel]

It's not important anymore, been having a rough past two days and that was my lore outlet. But I'm gonna move on with myself.

[crystal forum]

i would have answered but i realized i dont know shit about sororitas

I bet it's the same situation as some space marine chapters. If they're cut off from the imperium then they're doing as best as they can to maintain control

[crimson kayak]

short answer is that if you are in nihilus 90% you are at constant risk of wiping out/corruption/shenanigans

[crystal forum]

can sororitas even be corrupted

[crimson kayak]

it's weird

[green loom]

Ye

As of now there's a lot of Khornate ones running around

[crimson kayak]

rare but not impossible is the best answer for that

[crystal forum]

is it like how if you've never really been chaos controlled for a bit you can't really fight it properly

[green loom]

The best way of looking at it is that the sisters are already in a Cult

[crystal forum]

@storm jungle i bet you know a lot about sororitas. which order is currently being shat on the most?

[arctic talon]

Yeah but they usually try to cover it up

[storm jungle]

Martyed Lady and Valorous Heart mostly.

Martyed is mostly because they are the poster sororitas faction so their numbers are massive and have many worlds with some having been completely lost, same goes with the Valorous Heart but their situation is a bit more dire.

The other major orders are also under siege but are more teeming in numbers and support to launch liberation crusades to re-capture lost imperial worlds.

[undone zodiac]

Sisters of battle take all the shit astartes dont due to plot convicience

[storm jungle]

Yeah no joke sororitas have been shit on for 2 decades before their army update.

It was never seen before because their entire range was updated.

was a really big deal a few years back

[arctic talon]

SoB, and admech are the imperial punching bag lul

Guard are also up there

[storm jungle]

guard deserves it

:)

[arctic talon]

Lol

Everyone deserves to be the punching bag

[green loom]

Guard can take it

[arctic talon]

Tbh everyone can take it

[green loom]

The only ones who can't are astartes since like, one army has more troops than there are marines lol

[arctic talon]

There’s as many of X as plot demands

If I had a nickel for everytime the sanguinary guard got wiped out

I’d have like 19 nickles

[storm jungle]

to be fair

they are replacable

and also Elite Goons

get em

[arctic talon]

Lol

[crimson kayak]

i mean, you also have the imperial fist getting wiped/almost wiped nickel jar

[arctic talon]

True

[frosty stag]

The horus heresy is 27,977 years away

How are yall preparing

[storm jungle]

I'll be dead by then

thats how

[frosty stag]

Coward

[crimson kayak]

Way to jump the shark, first off try surviving the men of iron rebellion

[frosty stag]

How much prep time do i have

[crimson kayak]

1 hour

[frosty stag]

Oh damn

[nocturne crest]

Would it make sense for the Genestealers make their own version of a Gorkanaut, but it's a four armed emperor instead?

[green loom]

Peachy, formerly the guy that did updates on the GW channel and some tutorials, was making a four armed knight for his genestealer cult army

[celest dome]

An Imperial Knight sure, but a Gorkanaut not really

[nocturne crest]

I take it he never finished it?

[green loom]

Dunno

[crimson kayak]

Could work with a knight or something similar, but making something like a gorkanaut would mean titan size, and so in the hands of the mechanicum

[nocturne crest]

Ah. So would a genestealer stompa be more possible than Gorkanaut?

[crimson kayak]

Wait you mean ork genestealers?

Cause in that case it could also be a gargant no problem

Imperial genestealers meawhile would have to repurpose imperial tech to make it

[crystal forum]

isn't it funny that the guard is supposed to be the faction that represents humanity and its defining feature is that there's trillions of them

other fictional settings would highlight how adaptive humanity is or how crafty we are

nah in 40k we just breed like rats

[terse flume]

there's a lot of us, we built really good hives

more like termites really

extremely dangerous to get anywhere near your property

[crimson kayak]

I mean when all your tech both doesn't advance and is entirely worked on by a cult of borgs who consider themselves above normal humans you kinda have only that left

Oh and also yeah transhuman demigods cover the adaptability part

[arctic talon]

Tbf the adaptive part is shown imo

With how many different regiments of different styles there are

[crystal forum]

is there any regiment that doesn't treat war like an excel spreadsheet

[arctic talon]

Prolly none of the famous ones

[crystal forum]

DO NOT name me a plot armour regiment like tanith

[arctic talon]

But there prolly is

[arctic talon]

Ventrillian nobels

They “donate” (bribe) imperial officials to put them in warzones with plenty of glory to be won

[crystal forum]

there's two sides of the guard spectrum

efficiency or nobility

[nocturne crest]

Do unpowered bicycles still exist in 40k?

[green loom]

I'd say there's a good amount of "Savage" ones

[crystal forum]

im willing to bet 5$ that kriegers use bicycles in some degree if they're going full WW1

[arctic talon]

Prolly

Would be weird for them not to

[crystal forum]

it's either a bunch of roughneck savages with no concept of decency or a bunch of aristocrats with more complexe uniforms than prussia

[nocturne crest]

I mean, bicycles are more a sport or form of entertainment for people than a military vehicle.

[crystal forum]

they were used extensively in WW1 and to a lesser degree in WW2

there were even bicycle divisions in multiple armies

[nocturne crest]

That is true. Bicycle infranty is a thing.

I could also see khorne uses bicycles.

[crystal forum]

i've seen many cyclists who would rather kill me than share the road so i can agree

[green loom]

I've wanted to kill so many cyclists

They made me fail my driver's exam twice

[crystal forum]

https://youtu.be/V1t3fX2SCzM?si=XPdbCtVP6QpHatPO

khorne at work

[nocturne crest]

Huh.

Electric bikes are being used in a role similar to bike infantry.

[crystal forum]

might as well just call them scooters at this point

[nocturne crest]

Huh. I wonder if the Admech could strap a servitor to a bike and use it to pull towed weaponry.

[crystal forum]

they literally already have servitors who are basically human upper bodies with motorized tracks under them

[nocturne crest]

Yeah, but surely sticking a servitor onto a bike would be much easier to maintain?

[crystal forum]

why bother? they already have factories shitting out thousands of servitors every day

[storm jungle]

Almost every form of tech we have now exists in 40k

its just a lot more basic and brutalist

[versed ledge]

What's new my fellow gue'vesa

[crystal forum]

is that an insult

[storm jungle]

we are talking iPhones

[versed ledge]

We all serve the greater good, no?

In speaking of iPhones, why don't the average imperial sla- citizen have one?

[storm jungle]

Lmao

[crystal forum]

i'll have you know that my boss lets me have two corpse starch bars if i work overtime

[versed ledge]

Does it come chocolate flavors?

[crystal forum]

what's chocolate

[arctic talon]

Poor

[queen laurel]

There are planets that have the same technology as earth but i forgot if it's still canon

[arctic talon]

There are

But the average imperial citizen is some slave

Working in a hive city

Or a forge world

[queen laurel]

Yeah that is fair

[arctic talon]

Like in terms of population

The average imperial citizen lives a horrendous life

[crystal forum]

my local preacher says if i fall into the temptation of desiring more than starvation rations i'll have my soul claimed by evil entities

[versed ledge]

I guess the best quality of life are those afforded by the nobles, and on scintilla

[queen laurel]

Bastards can just go to a pleasure world if they want to

[versed ledge]

Pleasure worlds would be nice

[storm jungle]

if you are rich

[versed ledge]

Yup

[crystal forum]

what does the word pleasure mean

[versed ledge]

Which in 40k, the rich mirrors our own

[storm jungle]

[versed ledge]

Also the Slaaneshi form of pleasure with its meaning too NSFW that would constitutes a ban

But, no, pleasure worlds are just giant zoos and gardens

That may or may not have rich people doing the Slaaneshi form

[storm jungle]

Slaanesh stuff is mostly torture/hedonism

[queen laurel]

There are pleasure cults but they are very tame by dilara standards

[storm jungle]

💀

[nocturne crest]

What's the world that turned itself into a feral world because the nobles imported non native animals?

[versed ledge]

Also in speaking of Chaos. I just realized tzeentch is the perfect chaos god for the impoverished and downtrodden

[queen laurel]

Isn't there literally an imperial guard regiment that became amazing monster hunters because that happened

[arctic talon]

Indiga

It’s not a feral world

But it’s literally monster hunter 40K edition

[versed ledge]

Do those guardsmen and women carry stupidly huge swords

[arctic talon]

Evicerators?

No

Too expensive on average

[crimson kayak]

But they do get a cool armour

[queen laurel]

Indigan praefects, had to become monster hunters by choice because one of them wanted too much zoo time

[storm jungle]

Its less expensive and more just not the Guard's thing

because Sororitas can literally dump bolters and other equipment out like its candy lol

its also a bit of a mix of "its this imperial faction's niche so other factions shouldnt use it"

[queen laurel]

Looks at eldar, space marine and Orks having a good chunk of their stuff literally mirroring each other

[arctic talon]

The trio get away with it because they’re the og factions

[queen laurel]

Yeah they are basically the three musketeers of warhammer, but eldar sure get their stuff beaten a lot huh

[arctic talon]

Lul

[queen laurel]

You can't even make fun of orks for being punched a lot because that literally works for them

[storm jungle]

yeah orks are the fodder horde faction ala Nids

their losses dont matter

[nocturne crest]

I wonder if the orks could get nid guns to work.

[arctic talon]

Nid guns are living organisms

So no

Prolly not

[nocturne crest]

Not even if you wire them up with electricity?

[crimson kayak]

But they could probably grow some squigs that act like nid guns

[queen laurel]

Like pancreas no work said

[queen laurel]

Squigs are your best bet

[arctic talon]

It’s never been explored

But nid guns are fused with their hosts normally

[storm jungle]

Yeah like

[queen laurel]

Also if you do that the guns might have a violent spasm and explode

[storm jungle]

its trying to basically take a pufferfish and trying to make it shoot its spikes

its a living organism without its host

[queen laurel]

It's still controlled by the hive mind remember

[storm jungle]

its not gonna work or listen to you

[queen laurel]

The last time a tyranid was brought back to life it did not end so well

[storm jungle]

Also yeah like the guns are literally alive and will attack you

[queen laurel]

They literally have eyes

So expect them to absolutely try their best to f*** you over

[crimson kayak]

Ye like, only the old spike rifle could work

[nocturne crest]

a tyranid got brought back to life?

[crimson kayak]

Nids can survive a lot of stuff

[queen laurel]

Well not really it was frozen then brought back to life but my point still stands, helping a tyranid get peak condition in order to find uses for it ends rather badly

[crimson kayak]

Or a devourer too

[crimson kayak]

You mean the war in the museum one?

[queen laurel]

Old one eye

[arctic talon]

Old one eye is funny

[crimson kayak]

Oh ye, but that was a mutated one before getting inserted back into the genepool

Kinda like ymgarrls were

The war in the museum one literally survived having all it's fluids removed

[crimson kayak]

And it was a normal one

[queen laurel]

Yeah tyranids are tough

[crimson kayak]

Ye, funny how it calls for gaunts and such to come close to him so he could eat them and use their body fluids to rehydrate himself

[green loom]

Ngl

Marine's Malevolent are pretty based

[shadow plover]

[queen laurel]

what part of "sacrificing civilians as bait for artillery" is based?

[green loom]

We're talking about the imperium and sacrificing civilians is the bar?

They're no more evil than other imperials

They just don't dress it up with false heroics and nobility

[undone zodiac]

Marines malevolent deserve virus bombing for colour scheme alone

[shadow plover]

nah that's the best part about them

or rather the only good part

black and yellow goes hard

hence why I'm painting my Leviathan marines as The Scythes of the Emperor once I manage to start them

[undone zodiac]

I hate yellow colour

It doesnt feel to fit with anything

[wooden ridge]

It fits well with black, but black fits well with almost every colour to be fair

Also it is fine with blue, violet and purple

[crimson kayak]

All of it?

[queen laurel]

you know what fuck it i believe ederius

[crimson kayak]

I mean he's not wrong

No faction really cares about the civs enough when my engine of war can destroy 4 hab blocks just by walking

[celest dome]

It's 40k; Civilian Murder is never the answer, it's the question, and the answer is yes

[crimson kayak]

Like, anything bigger than a human is inevitably gonna cause enough collateral damage to permanently cripple the life of anyone near that warzone anyway

A single knight fighting a stompa inside a city could spell the indirect end of thousands of civilians that may or may not have survived the battle

Simply cause they lose everything else that wasn't their lives lol

[shadow plover]

well even in 40k when a conflict is expected to happen the civilians are often evacuated if possible

or the main fighting is kept from the more populated areas

can't let good workforce to perish when tithes need paying

[crimson kayak]

Ye but said good workforce needs a workplace to go back too, wich just like irl it doesn't always happen to be the case due to the home/workplace/whatever being bombed into rubble

It's just that like always, numbers get cranked to eleven and so saying like "1000 Hive workers don't have a place to live and work in anymore" is like talking about your friend losing it's job

[celest dome]

If the work force perish then just bring people from other hives

[shadow plover]

that is true as well, the area of work is often more important than the workforce

[green loom]

In that specific case iirc the camp was already overrun

[crimson kayak]

And also also rememeber that most enemies of humanity in 40k don't even care about seizing said area of work

That's basically just a rebel/chaos/occasionally ork mentality

[spiral bridge]

well the maybe the local guard regiment has 1000 new conscripts

[shadow plover]

like on Armageddon when Angron did a quick visit there the population was sterilized and new workers were moved there after the previous population withered out just because they may have known that a large demon visited the planet

[crimson kayak]

And also don't forget all the ones that weren't so lucky to get just mind wiped and sterilized

there's no first war in Armageddon

[spiral bridge]

Nothing happened on Armageddon in 444.M41

[tropic olive]

Erebus favorite song https://youtu.be/GgnClrx8N2k

[nocturne crest]

I've always wondered if the marines malevolent were IH successors, but don't have the resources to replace the flesh.

And therefore take their frustrations out on normal humans when they get the chance.

[celest dome]

IH ? Not IW ?

[spare osprey]

It’s gonna seem bit in character for me but I like to think the MM are DA.

Same sorta personality. The icon is similar to an old one of the DA legion (same as 2 other suspected DA chapters) and the MM have shown azrael and the DA more respect than most other chapters

[nocturne crest]

I could see it.

[steel eagle]

help i got hacked

[plush mason]

is there like some history between these 2 chapters?

[coarse pumice]

i think it's just how one expression summarises Marines Malevolent in one go

[spare osprey]

The other 2 being Star phantoms and angels of vigilance

[nocturne crest]

Any thoughts about the doom warriors?

The space marine chapter that have a failed organ, so they can't sleep.

[west hornet]

never knew a space marine could be so relateable

[queen laurel]

Such a novelty in today's world

[nocturne crest]

Yeah, not sure if that means they have to sleep the same amount of hours as a regular person, or if they just can't sleep at all.

Being yellow as well doesn't help.

[west hornet]

so are they just like ... sleepy ? bc iirc space marines can go quite some time without sleeping

the god emperor gives his biggest naps to his sleepiest soldiers ...

[nocturne crest]

No, Moody.

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Doom_Warriors#

[terse flume]

fuckin lol

[storm jungle]

War in the Museum is great

[terse flume]

"i stiched you out of your dead sister, yes, but really you fuck out of your pisser don't fuckin talk down to me"

[storm jungle]

I also love how the techpriest is wilingly there

and has no issue being put in statis as a museum piece

[crimson kayak]

best part from that book imo is when Sveras or however the fuck is name is spoken becomes a pure energy being for no reason except "oh yeah the stars aligned in the right way"

[storm jungle]

Are you talking about Orikan

you uncultured fuck

[crimson kayak]

oh wait i confused Orikan name with the fucking Silent King

[storm jungle]

Szerakh and Szeras

love the naming convention

[crimson kayak]

also in that post is the tl:dr part of how Trazyn is fucking pissed the Lictor keeps going straight at him

[terse flume]

it would frustrate me yeah

plz tank

[storm jungle]

The fact that he has to keep respawning from it is even funnier

[terse flume]

in that post: i also did not know who the bad sister was referencing or supposed to be from

[storm jungle]

Yeah it doesnt give proper context

[terse flume]

so i found it kind of funny there's a section like, and she's totally at peace and doesn't feel bad at all about what happened

which i assume are like warcrimes or whatever

like that's an unusual trait in this setting

[storm jungle]

shes also a Sister from Vandire's era

so shes legit even more brainwashed than your regular Sororitas too lol

[terse flume]

right she's just like whatever lets go

i like the energy

also laughed really hard at uh sec

like obviously tau are naive sure fine

i was just imagining that guys POV

[storm jungle]

Its a bit more believable because you can actually do diplomacy with Trazyn.

Even Fabius came to him and almost became a museum piece before he managed to make a counter offer to Trazyn

[terse flume]

right they're like boy i hope this necron lord is reasonable and not totally insane it seems like not amazing odds but here i go on my first big diplomacy job boy the water caste is going to be so proud of m-

and the next frame is a flesh hound jumping on him

[storm jungle]

[green loom]

Dilaraaaaa

[storm jungle]

Whats up

[green loom]

I'm finally starting to pick up on Miguel's style and stuff

[storm jungle]

very based

[rose thorn]

Oh yee I finished terminal overkill yesterday

It’s good, ||the name makes no sense and the name drops of a bunch of units was funny||

||The child slavery was unappreciated and the fact all she got from that was a shotgun for a chapter and making a box her slave master had||

The ending was great tho

||I kept imagining the slave owner guy looked like some image of a goblin I found||

||Oh yeah and the lady with the blood pump played a metaphorical role in the ending too ig||

Let me spoiler all of this

[queen laurel]

my man has been worshipping nurgle

[crystal forum]

no he's just an exxon executive

[tough haven]

Guys, gimme some funny and or interesting orks to read about

[queen laurel]

have you read brutal kunnin?

[tough haven]

I’m not interested in actually obtaining books since I’m not exactly willing to spend money, I was just gonna like research characters/watch videos on them, etc

[tough haven]

But no, continue

[queen laurel]

oh boy are Brutal Kunnin orks Are very funny

They also did something amazing in the book I will not spoil what you can read for yourself but I recommend it because it's just classic ork fun

[green loom]

Makari

[queen laurel]

The only grot that is doing pretty good

[tough haven]

Any way to get a online version for free or anything?

[crimson kayak]

One ork turned himself into Unicron

[queen laurel]

if you don't mind spoilers you can just go to the lexicanum and type Ufthak

Read about him and you will understand what makes him based

[tough haven]

I mean like you said, I’d rather read it from the perspective of the characters in the book

[queen laurel]

ok hold on let me just pull out my freebooter cap

[tough haven]

Time for some propah lootin’

[queen laurel]

@tough haven after going through multiple imperial checkpoints and having a shootout with the arbitres i found a pdf

I don't know if it's complete

[tough haven]

Good on ya

[queen laurel]

But i will send it over to you privately

[tough haven]

The Inquisition thanks you for your discretion in this matter

Black market deals with Blood Axes in order to learn more about Ork Kultur

[queen laurel]

also if you don't receive the PDF I have the link for the website

[tough haven]

Alright

[queen laurel]

there dm finished

[tough haven]

Much appreciated, worked like a charm btw

[queen laurel]

it opened?

[tough haven]

Yup

[queen laurel]

Oh yeah so disclaimer I don't know if it's the entire book so just keep that in mind I got this from somewhere not really sanctioned by the inquisition

[tough haven]

Eh that’s ok

[queen laurel]

alright enjoy and have fun

[near wasp]

Damn inquistions working with the greenskins, oh brother

[crisp heath]

can space marines walk up normal people stairs? i mean their boots are pretty big

[spare osprey]

On their tippy toes

[crisp heath]

i can only imagine a squad trying to catch a guy who ran upstairs in some buildings and they cant get to him bc they keep falling down

[undone zodiac]

They shoot the support structure to bring upstairs to downstairs

[crisp heath]

lmao

if they had to do it on their tippy toes would that mean raven guard are the best at walking upstairs?

[spare osprey]

There’s a scene of a terminator walking up some stairs

They can’t support his weight

Dude fell through

They needed a crane to get him up

[tough haven]

Executed for misplaced faith

spreading slanderous rumors

[crisp heath]

i have terrain with stairs on it and my terminators always make it up them

maybe i should roll next time and if i get a 1 he dies

[undone zodiac]

You'd never see ravens

They would just appear upstairs

[tough haven]

falls wrong and breaks his neck

[tough haven]

I just imagine they just t-pose everywhere

[near wasp]

I died to my beliefs, if they damn my souls then so be it!

[tough haven]

https://tenor.com/view/virtual-insanity-virtual-insanity-template-walking-dancing-rearranging-furnitures-gif-27710286

Never heard from again, all records of this guardsman's existence conveniently go missing

(Or were never there to begin with because administratum moment)

[storm jungle]

https://youtu.be/CmMUJlpfl-c

[near wasp]

Jokes on you i joined choas, now im gonna misarrange your paperwork on your desk. Ill doom millions

[tough haven]

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-screaming-scared-yelling-sus-gif-24404125

[crisp heath]

i see them, bc i play them

[undone zodiac]

Hush

[queen laurel]

Oh hey Dilara, may i ask you a question

[storm jungle]

Sure thing

[queen laurel]

All right so, what was the ending of brutal kunnin if you read it, i got a pdf of it out somewhere i will not tell you where, i just want to know the ending to make sure that i just got something complete

[storm jungle]

What does the last page say

[queen laurel]

The last part was Da meklord really mad at badrukk

Like he was cursing him a bit

[storm jungle]

Hmm can you share the excerpt

I think that’s literally the opening chapters

[queen laurel]

I'm firing up the pc real quick hold on

[crystal forum]

some youtuber i watch made a poll for which regiment should represent the guard in the store and a surprising amount of people wanted elysian drop troops

[queen laurel]

I mean they look pretty cool but personally to me they look similar to Cadians, i mean for fox sake they're basically cadians with advance parachutes

[crystal forum]

they have slightly different colour schemes at least

i think steel legion is the best regiment for what i'd think of as generic guard

a bunch of dummies also suggested vostroyans

super decorated regiments would be such shitty representations of generic monkey brained guardsman

[undone zodiac]

Honestly penal legion kit would be cool

[celest cedar]

Is this good?

[storm jungle]

Not even out yet

i expect usual imperial nonsense

[celest cedar]

Utube comments says its about civilians guardsmen and salamanders and sisters

The salamanders are kinda cool

[storm jungle]

Kind of.

[arctic talon]

That salamander is literally going to burn those civilians

He’s part of the third company

[frosty stag]

Salamanders?

Ive been summoned

Looks dope

[crisp heath]

SPACE MARINE II SHALL SATIATE YOUR PALETTE

[frosty stag]

Can i be a salamander in space marine 2?

Like as a cosmetic item

[crystal forum]

can't wait for the next 20 years of people thinking space marines are insanely powerful due to this game

[crisp heath]

We await multiplayer confirmation and base colors for Legions/Chapters similar to the first game, only 3 player coop has been confirmed!

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer40000space-marine2-warhammer40000-space-marine-tyranids-gif-24403616

[arctic talon]

💀 it’s so fucking over

There’s a lot of things nids have that should just instantly kill a marine on impact

[winter vessel]

I hope we get the option of wearing a helmet. I mean yeah, feel the toxic wind and ashes of war brushing against your skin, Astartes. But I want to wear a helmet for aesthetic reasons.

From what I’ve seen, the Guard will be tagging along with us in certain parts of the story, My “Halo Marine Protection” instincts are gonna be kicking in when I start playing this.

[crisp heath]

FOR THE EMPEROR!

https://tenor.com/view/tyranid-space-marine-spacemarine2-warhammer-40k-gif-24160039

[tough haven]

Difficulty will just be fucking insane for canon reasons

90% of attacks just outright kill you

[arctic talon]

If there’s a canon difficulty option

I’ll fucking take it lol

Gaunts and stuff wouldn’t be that bad

But warriors would be horrifying lol

A Venom cannon would instantly melt you lul

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1096334626798194728/1144091187754573884/IMG_2166.webp

Lictor with the new design

[celest cedar]

Why is captain titus not wearinf a helmet

Besides the obvious main character syndrome

[arctic talon]

He’s a lt, he has an iron halo

Helmet isn’t as necessary

But he should still be wearing it from an actual like in lore perspective

Bcs if the refractor field doesn’t work he’s gona mcfucking die

[celest cedar]

Whats a refractor field

[green loom]

Shield

[celest cedar]

So he has a shield to protect him?

[green loom]

Most marines of rank tend to yes

[celest cedar]

Like an actual shield u gold

[arctic talon]

Think energy shield like halo but it’s a bubble around you that blocks almost everything but can fail under pressure

[celest cedar]

Or like somekind of energy based

[arctic talon]

Sufficient firepower or mass of fire

[celest cedar]

Ooohh

[arctic talon]

Will cause a refractor shield to fail

Or specialized munitions

Also sometimes they just don’t work

Because imperial technology isn’t great Ironicially

[arctic talon]

An example of one is the shield the traitor captain has in game, in lore they don't appear unless you're taking fire though

[green loom]

Yeah sometimes you'll be able to just tank intense fire

[arctic talon]

Sometimes it'll literally shit the bed and you'll eat a melta to the face

[celest cedar]

So thats why he has that 3 bars on him in the Hud

[green loom]

Other times a single bullet from some crappy auto gun will slip through and into your eye, killing you instantly

[arctic talon]

they're unreliable lol

and also rare

but they're very useful

[arctic talon]

Yeah I'd assume its to represent it

or some other "bonus" health mechanic

Conversion fields are the much more reliable but way more expensive and rare version of a refractor field

Instead of blocking it they somehow just turn the projectile into a bright flashes of light

they can still be broken and fail but your less likely to just eat a bullet to the face

There's a lot of weird ass energy shielding in the imperium but its all very rare and very expensive

[celest cedar]

Is the traitor captain void shield being one of those rare stuff

[arctic talon]

void shields aren't for personal use

[celest cedar]

Its able to block bullets and melee weapons

[arctic talon]

Its a refractor field

most likely

[arctic talon]

Refractor shields can do that

[crisp heath]

https://tenor.com/view/krieg-warhammer40000-gif-20755773

I hear the Death Korps prefer old school charges into the enemy with sheer tenacity

[arctic talon]

Not necessarily

[crisp heath]

No shields? Lol

[arctic talon]

Their primary speciality is long term sieges

Guardsmen lives are cheap

they don't get shields

Only Field commanders and up get refractor shields

[scenic bolt]

imagine charging to melee enemy at anything more than slow march speed

mordia says hi

[celest dome]

Wouldn't it be a Conversion field ? As it make lights when hit

[arctic talon]

Actually you might be right

[crisp heath]

Trench warfare, attrition is long term as well

[arctic talon]

Trench warfare explicitly isn't their specality

They are siege specialists

[celest dome]

Memes ≠ lore

[arctic talon]

Vraks was a shitshow where they got forced into a shitty situation

and had to engage in trench warfare

They normally use mass artillery bombardment + mechanized assaults

[crisp heath]

I heard they bombarded traitor worlds for years and years lol

[arctic talon]

Which was reflected in their army rules

It depends

they bombarded a traitor hive for years

even though they had already surrendered

The Death Korps of Krieg are very willing to spend their lives for a worthy cause and are in fact not suicidal

They don't want to die a meaningless death as thats considered extremely dishonerable

[celest dome]

Wasn't the difference between them and the Armaggeddon troops that they were cheaper due to not needing mechanised troops ?

[crystal forum]

@arctic talon name every single guard vehicle

[arctic talon]

DO I need to do varients

[crystal forum]

yes

[arctic talon]

💀

[crisp heath]

They fight as much as they can until they die

[crystal forum]

if you cant do that you dont have a right to speak about guard

[arctic talon]

this will take a bit

Jay lol

[celest dome]

They still fled on Vrak

[crisp heath]

Idk much about Vraks, tactical retreat or Commissar orders?

[arctic talon]

full on retreat against comissar orders because they deemed it a waste of their lives

to charge a fortified position

[crisp heath]

Nice

[crystal forum]

the retreat was merely temporary

[arctic talon]

also that whole krieg regiment got sentinced to a penal battalion

because of course they did

[celest dome]

Killing Commissar and fleeing

[crisp heath]

Niceeeeee

[celest dome]

Krieg is way different from the memes

[crystal forum]

the commissar merely shot themselves three times in the head

[celest dome]

They aren't as special as most think

[crisp heath]

I’m currently reading Tanith First & Only, visceral book. I’m thinking of picking up Krieg eventually

[crisp heath]

Some are just specialized in what they do due to their worlds

[green loom]

The DK are shockingly plain and boring

[celest cedar]

Steel Legion better right

They even have in game skins

[arctic talon]

meh they're a mechanized warfare regiment

they're jjust really good at it

[crystal forum]

i bet this clown has elysium minis

[frosty stag]

Im still excited

I don’t have friends so co op doesn’t matter to me

[arctic talon]

the only guard minis I own are the vet guard killteam lul

[green loom]

The korps meanwhile are just WW1 garbage with a mediocre track record

[arctic talon]

Baneblade, shadowsword, stormsword, stormblade, stormhammer, hellhammer, banehammer, doomhammer, banesword, stormlord, Gorgon, Atlas, Basalisk, bombard, Colossus, Centaur, Chimera, Cyclos demolition vehicle, Deathstrike, Griffon, hellhound, devil dog, banewolf, Hydra, Land Crawler, Lemen Russ(Exterminator, Demolisher, Vanquisher, Conqureror, executioner, annihlator, mars pattern, Eradicator, Puisher), Destroyer tank hunter, Thunderer Siege Tank, Manticore, medusa, Salamander, Sentinel(scout, armored, mars pattern, elysian pattern, catachan pattern, cadian pattern, Armaggedon pattern, tallaran pattern), Tauros, Taurox, Termite drill, Crassus armored transport, Praetor, Macharius(Vulcan, vanquishier, omega), Malcador(Annihlator, defender, infernius) , Valdor Tank Hunter, Minotaur, capitol imperialis, hades breaching drill. @crystal forum

I probably missed something

lmao

[nocturne crest]

Do the korps train their own pilots or do they purely rely on the navy for aerial transportation?

[arctic talon]

Every regiment relies on the navy for aerial transportation

[green loom]

The only regiment with it's "own pilots" are like

[crystal forum]

where's the goliath

[green loom]

The Phantine Sky Corps

But

[arctic talon]

the fuck is the goliath

[green loom]

They're still separate from the actual regiment

[arctic talon]

the truck?

[green loom]

Being the Phantine Skyborne iirc

[crystal forum]

nvm

[arctic talon]

bcs this thing is a civllian vehicle

[crisp heath]

I would like some more expansion on the Harakoni Warhawks despite similarities with the Elysian Drop Troops

[green loom]

The genestealer technical

[crystal forum]

you named mars pattern as a variant of leman russ

[green loom]

I would like some more expansions on XYZ but they're also humans

[crystal forum]

you didn't name the leman russ mars pattern with every cannon type

[arctic talon]

I think I'd rather drink bleach

[nocturne crest]

Looks like it should mount rockets in the back.

[arctic talon]

we know they have carapace armor instead of flak

regarding the Harkoni

[green loom]

Elysians get fancy flack

[crisp heath]

Lol, the majority of the Imperial Guard are humans

[green loom]

Because Elysia is pretty rich

[nocturne crest]

So like Gue'vesa or Dark Eldar Slaves/Mercenaries?

[arctic talon]

I'd rather get an expansion on non human factions tbh

even though I own mostly imperial minatures

[crisp heath]

Elysian sounds like Elysium, I wonder if their world is a semi-paradise

[arctic talon]

Its a very nice world iirc

[crystal forum]

the council of guard has reviewed your application and have decided to grant you permission to speak of guard topics on the condition that you praise cadia every time

[arctic talon]

I am going to use rocks from cadia as pocket sand

[nocturne crest]

You know, I wonder if the iron warriors could build a tyranid force through warpsmiths and the obliterator virus.

[arctic talon]

for the first time in years this section is below 100

Dear god

[nocturne crest]

https://tenor.com/view/dump-it-gif-26704933

[crisp heath]

Which ones you had in mind? I’m still going through factions, but basis of each I know

[arctic talon]

Tau(auxilia), Dark Eldar, Leagues of votaan are the 3 big ones

[celest dome]

Any Eldar tbh

[arctic talon]

Craftworld Eldar need model updates

They don’t need a range expansion

Also harlequins ig

[celest dome]

Fair

[crisp heath]

I’ll probably get into more of the Farsight Enclaves

[vast heart]

Yall

I'm back

Who's the psyker's beloved

I wanna say Tzeentch but that feels too low-hanging fruit

[shadow plover]

he/she at least thinks it's the emperor

[queen laurel]

It seems to be a fragment of the emperor if we are to believe the voice lines

[vast heart]

Yeah that's exactly what Tzeentch would want you to think

[crimson kayak]

Tau auxilia will always be sick

[coarse pumice]

AFAIK, if they released TOW tomorrow along with every single faction model as it was in 8th edition FB, I think ~~Warp Spiders/Phoenix Lords ~~Baharroth's Wings would still be the oldest models in the catalogue

[echo vault]

I mean most 8 ed models are decently new nothing huge but something

[coarse pumice]

I don't mean the models released in 8th edition alone, I mean all the models that were being sold during 8th edition for all factions

[echo vault]

Oh shit

Even older than the plague priests?

[coarse pumice]

the skaven ones?

yeah, as far as I can tell

I think the Warpfire Thower is one of the oldest models, and even that's newer than Warp Spiders and certainly newer than Baharroths Wings (1990)

[echo vault]

Ouch

[echo vault]

I love how beastmen are in 40k in any Warhammer fantasy they're like this abominable evil of chaos and pure human evil but in 40k it's like if that guy can praise the emperor and shoot a lasgun we'll deal with him and his horns later

[crimson kayak]

Beastmen in 40k are literally just mutants, and even then most of them actually are aligned to chaos

[echo vault]

Still ironically more accepting than fantasy, but fantasy is much much less people in general and lower tech

[storm jungle]

its not accepting tho

they are literally treated as freaks lmao

[echo vault]

Of course not lol

[storm jungle]

AoS is probably the most accepting one

and even then theres racism there

[echo vault]

Im just thinking they're more likely to enlist a weird beastmen if he's not like a bestigor in the head region

[crimson kayak]

Also if you had to count beastmen herds equivalent you'd have to go toward the Gorrs who are all chaos aligned and mindless ravagers

[terse flume]

the person that the psyker talks to, the "beloved", is the emperor and this is canon. beloved explicitly calls out felinids as being "exceptionally beautiful". therefore, the relatively permissive status of felinids is because the emperor is canonically furry. i'm sorry, but these are the facts

[echo vault]

Maybe whatever the 40k equivalent of an ungor is,

[storm jungle]

💀

[echo vault]

Rip that one beastmen that has horns for eyes and eyes for horns

[storm jungle]

reminds me of some IRL goats

or rather horned mammals whos horns grow and curl to stab themselves in the brain

if that isnt chaos i dont know what is

[echo vault]

The beastmen themselves needs more gross horns j agree

Like take a tuskgor or a razorgor horns and put them on a beast men, have three tusks that all stab their very lacking brain

[storm jungle]

yeah fantasy beastmen have a lot more lore even if its basic

they are also the literal black sheep of the setting lol

[echo vault]

Imagine the lore of a beastmen lord where instead of being born they corrupted from human or another species and their body legit tried to kill the corruption and shit, making it really not normal due to the organic and corrupted parts Fighting leading to certain joints just not existing being replaced somewhere else

The beastmen equivalent of a pug

[storm jungle]

🤔

[echo vault]

It's basically like your immune system is trying to kill itself so it cuts out redundant and inevitably necessary parts for survival

[queen laurel]

they also have some the most horrific monsters in fantasy, i'd say they are equal to moulder

[storm jungle]

their lore was also pretty fucked up

[echo vault]

Skaven are funny

Beastmen are not

[storm jungle]

it got softly edited and retconned over time lmao

[celest dome]

Gave ?
And Tzaangor is both 40k and AoS

[echo vault]

????

[echo vault]

I mean I'm talking like pure chaos energy not tzeentch slam Dunkin another head on a guy for fun

[celest dome]

Well Gave are that

It's Beastmen that are born from normal human parents

[queen laurel]

i mean look at this, it looks like me

[shadow plover]

Ohhh noo the men have goat faces!
I sleep

Literally the least interesting part of all of warhammer

[storm jungle]

It was less that and how more beastmen got "made"

[queen laurel]

ah yes, evolution fucking them over

[storm jungle]

Nah it didnt

its why they leaned into beastmen being made through beastwomen later

who also barely have any lore lmao

[echo vault]

There are beastwomen

In that new blood bowl game

That I heard sucks

[storm jungle]

yeah well they werent before

so you can imagine how more beastmen got made

[celest dome]

Well at least it's not Skaven Broodmothers

[echo vault]

See the skaven are at least like funny with the evil like yeah how are skaven made that's gross but like

[storm jungle]

eh skaven broodmoms are fine yeah

[echo vault]

Do we want like gross rat bug moms or do we want the molestation industrial complex

[storm jungle]

^

Broodmothers are really not that gross

its literally just a bloated female skaven that constantly pumps out kids while tied to an IV stand

theres a lot worse stuff out there lmao

[echo vault]

Gross, but I bet the multihead moulder thing is grosser

Whatever it's called

That thing is probably a brood mother hooked up with like the boys

And by hooked up we mean surgically grafted

[celest dome]

They are taken care of by gelded Skaven slaves (To avoid them breeding the Broodmothers

[queen laurel]

It's warhammer so both?

[crimson kayak]

The worst of all blood bowl games indeed, and it never was a high bar to start anyway

[queen laurel]

their ability to fuck up a simple football game is amazing

[echo vault]

There's only rats in fantasy as far as we know so we unfortunately have to just chill with thay

[crystal forum]

what the fuck is this shit

leman russ artillery

apparently the top ones are medusas???

i really need to point out how weird these models are

those tracks are leman russ

but the front hull is chimera

i want a fullscale model of this yesterday

i love the lengths they have to go to because they decided that chimeras weren't available in 30k

that's like half of the guard arsenal that can't be used

including all self propelled artillery

[crystal forum]

i wonder if they'll even bother explaining in lore why they went from leman russ to chimera

they straight up can't use the "lost technology" excuse because both the leman russ and the artillery guns are present in abundance in 40k

they might say that the leman russ is a mars pattern so it eventually became too rare to be used

but then why wouldn't krieg have any?

[celest dome]

Logistic ? Like the Leman russ being easier to procure new parts and repair ? Or even the FW producing them turned traitor so they started to become much rarer

[crystal forum]

those could work but they'd still be weak reasons imo. the malcador at least makes sense for being outdated, it literally looks antiquated and it doesn't even have a turret. these leman russ artillery vehicles would be pretty recent additions to the solar auxilia arsenal at that point too since the malcador is still in the process of being phased out

like it's obvious that GW added these artillery tanks because guard needs them but i think it would have been better to create a new malcador variant so it would make more sense that we've never seen one in 40k before

also the destroyer tank is a leman russ hull with a heavy laser destroyer. whenever the tank is disabled they rip out the gun and put it in another cheap modified leman russ. The guard can do this, leman russes are worth nothing to them and they can adapt weapons into them. It's the gun that's valuable because nobody produces them anymore

so when GW shows that there existed a leman russ with a basilisk cannon on it, it really just comes as stupid. neither the gun nor the hull are hard to obtain. Chimera hulls are weak as hell and i'm sure there's many uses for an armoured artillery vehicle that can push in dangerous areas

[nocturne crest]

Maybe it's something like that variant of the helios launcher?

[crystal forum]

which one?

[storm jungle]

All of these look the same

hunk of junk

[nocturne crest]

Sorry, the Whirlwind Hyperios.

Where because of that Admech Schism, they're not made and some chapters that do have them won't use them.

[celest dome]

It's not like the Admech can't use 90% of their 30k stuff

[crystal forum]

but that's the thing, like i explained there's precedence in lore of leman russes being modified to use difference weapons

the destroyer tank hunter and its variant the thunderer are both field modifications

[storm jungle]

Stop thinking so hard about this

[crystal forum]

the thunderer is literally a leman russ without a turret with a demolisher slapped on it

[storm jungle]

It doesn't matter.

[crystal forum]

it does to me damn it

[storm jungle]

too bad

PERISH

[nocturne crest]

I wonder if transport gliders would fall underneath the Imperial Navy or the Imperial Guard?

[crystal forum]

guard

[storm jungle]

Transport falls under navy

like Valkyries

[arctic talon]

That’s mostly for gameplay reasons unfortunately

Orodo reductor and tech thralls are still around

Same with thallaxi

Only thing that isn’t allowed lore wise is the cybernetica robots

[crystal forum]

im just mad that space marines get new shit they don't even need and guard get stuff they can't even use in 40k

[storm jungle]

I mean

thats been the case for 30 years

get used to it

[crystal forum]

it's also funny that GW have clearly dug themselves into a hole by neglecting 30k guard lore too much

[arctic talon]

Lol

It’s really funny

They keep on digging it deeper

With legiones

[storm jungle]

isnt 30k guard just

"heres a sheet of paper, go do whatever with spare models"

[arctic talon]

It’s very open ended

[storm jungle]

Lmao

so what i said basically

💀

[arctic talon]

Yeah

There’s some stuff that isn’t allowed

But I forgor

[crystal forum]

30k guard is solar auxilia because GW can't be fucked to create new regiments

[storm jungle]

literally M1984

[arctic talon]

Solar auxilia also isn’t even the guard in 30k 💀

They’re specialists

Imperial cults and militia are super neglected

Same with Daemons of the ruin storm lol

[crystal forum]

im happy they bothered to at least give militia a sheet

[arctic talon]

It’s a very good sheet

Tbh

Horus heresy is an unbalanced cluster fuck tho

Bcs of instant death

[crystal forum]

it's sad. guardsmen are super present in HH books

at least in the background

[arctic talon]

Yeah

More present the Solar auxilia

But Solar auxilia was a forgeworld employees pet project

[crystal forum]

so you're saying that i have to get a job at GW and create a 30k regiment

[nocturne crest]

Right, but it hasn't got any engines, so it can't get back up.

[crystal forum]

i'll call them the cyclopian maulers and base them off of greek hoplites

[arctic talon]

Get a job at GW at forgeworld designing minatures for Horus heresy

[crystal forum]

i wonder how's the job market for such a niche thing

[arctic talon]

Idk

Lol

[nocturne crest]

Don't they already exist?

As the Solar Auxilia?

[crystal forum]

the only open jobs they have rn with models is in management

[arctic talon]

Solar auxilia are their own thing lore wise from the imperial army

[crystal forum]

33 holday days per year, 7.5% profit share bonus

working at GW isn't so bad huh

wait no pension up to 7.5%

[arctic talon]

They’ve been pretty good to work under post Kirby

[crystal forum]

i like when companies actually give back to employees when it's profit season

[near wasp]

25 percent off, a person could actually afford to get into warhammer that way

[crystal forum]

they have positions in memphis in the US for 17$ an hour with honestly insane benefits for a warehouse job

[near wasp]

Wow my job pays better and has the same benifits

[crystal forum]

awesome!

[near wasp]

But i recon id save a bunch of money with the discount xD

[crystal forum]

it doesnt even mention the discount on the warehouse job

i'd take the job just for it alone lol

[green loom]

I sure do wonder what this implies

[celest dome]

Can love...

[arctic talon]

Mmmmmm mon’keigh

[crystal forum]

i wish i could use "unknown" as a response to my romantic preferences

[crisp heath]

"no one alive can comprehend my sexual preference" flashbacks

Honestly here's my thing with Yrliet: totally down for Eldar waifu. When you think about it, when you get to the fringes of the Imperium and start thinking about characters like our rogue trader or even inquisitors, it's pretty unlikely that human-eldar relationships are as rare as you'd be led to believe.

My issue is that they made her hot

They're cowards who won't give me a stretched-out, uncanny and unsettlingly nimble gf

Eldar just don't look good, and they should keep not looking good when you're married to them

[storm jungle]

Eldar have always looked handsome/beautiful as per the lore

so YEET

[crisp heath]

Eldar look good in writing but in art they're always either horrific distortions of the human form, space waifus, or the extremely rare form of a male eldar, your alcoholic uncle dale here to sell you magic crystals

[storm jungle]

Eh no they aren't

[queen laurel]

Why do you think they are popular to a certain audience?

[storm jungle]

the only time eldar have looked weird is due to artists

[storm jungle]

Elves are always popular in media

its not just a 40k thing because people are horni constantly lol

[queen laurel]

Also canonically they are taller than people

Which is always a plus for people who want to be degraded

[storm jungle]

They almost as tall as a space marine

shame most people also forget that

[queen laurel]

Yeah they forget that physically speaking eldar are superior to humans

[storm jungle]

Biologically speaking ye

[queen laurel]

Then at the lower end of the spectrum the tau

[storm jungle]

Tau biology is pretty weird

[crisp heath]

Eldrad is 100% a Dale

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/0/0a/Eldrad_Ulthran-0.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160902185928

[storm jungle]

Eldrad is Hugo Weaving

https://tenor.com/view/abell46s-reface-como-asi-el-señor-de-los-anillos-duda-gif-18852932

[queen laurel]

Some of them are capable of melee but they will crumple harder than joe biden at a flight of stairs

[crisp heath]

This man looks like he's going to buy me a pint of fireball and tell me who really built the pyramids

[storm jungle]

Spoilers: It was the necrons.

[crisp heath]

But honestly even with that art of Eldrad, like... yeah, i get what the black templars are saying, I can see it

[storm jungle]

Its literally just hugo weaving with long ears

[crisp heath]

his eyes are black soulless pits

[storm jungle]

Okay so

you say that like most humans are any better

[queen laurel]

A good portion of people grow up like that

[crisp heath]

I do appreciate how Yriel looks like Jetstream Sam tho

[storm jungle]

aka just has a topknot

[crisp heath]

Weird metal face mask too

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/metalgear/images/b/bd/SamPortrait.png/revision/latest?cb=20220711191615

That thingy

[storm jungle]

Chin/cheekguard

a lot of eldar have it

[versed ledge]

so why do eldar have ridiculously long hair?

I get that COs are allotted certain liberties, but that long hair is funky

[crystal forum]

there's actually very little reason to cut your hair in the military other than to enforce uniformity. a lot of ancient warriors had long hair. Modern militaries though want to have a professional look so they require strict hair lengths

also officers are pansies who are afraid of their bald spots so they force uniform baldness to hide their shame

that last part is my own theory

[crystal forum]

baldness is a sign of xenos activity

[crystal forum]

i completely forgot this vehicle was a thing in forge world https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99590105389_SolarAuxiliaBasilisk01.jpg

[crystal forum]

today i found out that forge world used to do a couple of different basilisk variants

including one with an enclosed gunner platform

[arctic talon]

It’s drip or drown

And the craftworld eldar style seems to be big pony tails

[echo vault]

Orks like ponytails too don't forget

[queen laurel]

I mean they can customize hair squigs a lot more, if properly utilized you can even get a beard

[echo vault]

Oh that's cool there should be more

[storm jungle]

Eldar can have any sort of hairstyle.

The longer hair is just one of the "default" options since they are culturally inspired by a lot of things like japanese/hindu hairstyles.

[shadow plover]

no no having short hair is slutty and therefore they'll be taken by slaanesh straight from the barber

[storm jungle]

💀

[shadow plover]

like the lil' snack they are

[queen laurel]

dilara becoming a champion of Khorne to kill people who think slannesh is all about sex and beautiful girls, fr

[echo vault]

I know the answer is yes but are there equivalents to plague zombies/poxwalkers for the other gods

I want a slaanesh army where my chaff units are just like a horde of people that just came out of the worlds worst mosh pit

[storm jungle]

Nah there isnt

its why nurgle always gets picked, he basically has the base version of what zombies are.

[shadow plover]

In some instances some other god's cultists have been described to act like a horde of raving lunatics just rushing the opposition with shivs and other weapons

[storm jungle]

Yeah thats the closest you'll get

Poxwalkers are the only literal zombies

[green loom]

The closest you'll get is

"effectively" zombies

People drive to a blood frenzy

People ensnared by some slaanesh shenanigans

People driven to madness and being puppeted by Tzeentch bs

But only Nurgle has straight up shambling corpses

[celest dome]

There aren't

YET

[celest dome]

Well at least those exist in Fantasy. Where the conjoined Twins puppet Thralls

[echo vault]

Ok now imagine the horde of slaanesh cultists but they're stuck together like a rice krispie treat

I think that could be a fun unit

[crimson kayak]

Yeah closest to pox walker you can get would be

Angron rage virus humans for Khorne
Heavily mutated humans for Tzneetch
Zealots Methheads for Slaneesh

[green loom]

Basic horde unit called "Blood Cursed Ravagers" or something

Just random imperial units

[green loom]

https://youtu.be/NCOSao1KEQo?si=ZjVDLgCF6wsFWz1X

Now this is some REAL 40k lore

[celest dome]

Mutant Rabble did exist in lore iirc. But I think they fit better as the Bruiser and Melee elites. And Puppeted Civis as horde

[arctic talon]

Mutant rabble are no where near pox walkers in lore

[celest dome]

They fit better as the Bruisers and the melee elites

Case in point

https://wahapedia.ru/wh40k9ed/factions/renegades-and-heretics/Renegade-Mutant-Rabble

[crystal forum]

i'm keeping my expectations low not because i want to be negative but so i don't get disappointed

[green loom]

The gameplay looks

Fine

Maybe a bit heavy on the spore mines

[crystal forum]

this is like the most popular game licensed by GW right? i hope they put the level of attention necessary

[green loom]

But the melee system looks like it's just what the first game had + new stuff

[crisp heath]

Should check out this clip under a minute: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uzucEQ-VhHQ&pp=ygUOc3BhY2UgbWFyaW5lIDI%3D

[crystal forum]

GW should just make its own game dev studio at this point if they want to keep associating with meh studios

[crisp heath]

There’s also around 10 minutes additional with many who have played a demo, not even final version yet

[celest dome]

You think their inhouse studio would be better ?

[crisp heath]

Reviews have started to be uploaded a few days now

[crystal forum]

i don't want to get on a high horse but these sorts of videos are absolutely useless. They're meant to sell you the product so they show selective gameplay they think looks appealing. Plus they're mostly meant to show off the graphics and imo no real gamer should care about that at all.

[crisp heath]

Surely that’s almost every game?

Why would they not appeal to audiences that have waited over a decade for Space Marine II?

[crystal forum]

no, they'd be average at best. It would be the same as if they hired the usual type of studios

[crystal forum]

for the videos? yes, that's what gameplay reveal trailers do. It's why i don't watch them because they're meant to hype you up to buy the product

[celest dome]

If anything they need to learn to be less overbearing, not to make the game less lore accurate, but to make more/better studio interested in doing warhammer games

[crisp heath]

If you watched it, it would inform you it is more than just a trailer. That link I sent is literally only gameplay with lore accurate dialogue and circumstance that is relevant to W40K’s setting

You do not have to preorder, every product has to have some reveal regardless if they’re trying to make you buy it or not

[crystal forum]

i think the reason we don't see bigger or better studios want to work with GW is that you're basically losing a part of the profit from getting the license from GW. im sure they keep a decent % of profit too. It you already have a fanbase like larger studios then you don't need 40k to make your game more popular.

imagine if fatshark didn't market its game with warhammer stuff

it would be popular now because fatshark has a fanbase but maybe not when vermintide 1 came out

[crystal forum]

im not talking about the lore and the dialogue. the gameplay is the main factor here and these trailers regularly make stuff up to make it more appealing

go watch the gameplay trailers for rainbow six siege. it's so funny seeing the game being taken so seriously and slowly

[terse flume]

completely backwards, actually

GW did do gigantic licences for ages

ages and ages

did up until the 2010s

they still do triple As occasionally

[crystal forum]

like what?

[terse flume]

i think space marine 2 is triple a? the dawn of war warhammer version is another relatively recent example

they're willing to work with big devs/publishers, but the biggest dev/publishers demand a lot of exclusivity, and their IP strategy went the exact opposite direction

extra credit did some good videos on this, sec

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOVrmfXolQg

[crisp heath]

Perhaps, either way the gameplay is solid and not quite the finished product as we haven’t seen all the weapons and animations from the entire story.

Not sure what else you can do if you only stop at showing cinematics/cutscenes and not show gameplay.

[terse flume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtY3Lto_lR4

with an IP like this for a long time they went with the best of the best, and went for high end bespoke triple a experiences

but darktide and the tides generally are examples of the inverse of this strategy

[crystal forum]

that's what i dont get. so GW wants a game company to give them money and in return GW gets to decide what's in the game? where's the up side for the dev studio

[crimson kayak]

Let's also rememeber Nurgle has Atleast 4 different types of zombies

[terse flume]

lots of granularity with IP, dividing the licence up nice and fine