40k-lore-chat

[queen laurel]

That is true

Even though i never read them because i'm a f****** moron

[arctic talon]

Pirate it

Only xenos books I’d say are bad are like

A chunk of the tau and craftworld eldar ones

[near wasp]

Legally you cant do that and cant recoomend that

[arctic talon]

Votaan and nids don’t count

Read path of the dark eldar

It’s good

[crystal forum]

nids is just supplement to space marine lore

[queen laurel]

I'm trying to look for a website where i can grab a few audiobooks for free

Because reading makes my brain want to grab a gun

[arctic talon]

Nids are generic enemy to supplement every factions lore

It’s like an Iron supplement

[queen laurel]

Votaan?

You mean the better imperium?

[crystal forum]

you can get audiobooks for like 7$

[arctic talon]

For someone who’s anemic

[arctic talon]

Votaan don’t exist till they get a book

[viral halo]

I had a mega file back in 2016 that had almost every single warhammer book evermade on it

I wish I still had that file

[arctic talon]

Or a real codex

[queen laurel]

That's a lot of money here in the Philippines

[arctic talon]

They have 0 lore rn

Except for the stupid ass Horus heresy stuff they released

Out of no where

In white dwarf

[crystal forum]

what's your paypal i'll send you the pocket change

[arctic talon]

Like

[queen laurel]

Nah

[arctic talon]

The LoV were in the heresy

On both sides

But they never fought each other

?????

Also no one ever questioned them about their tech

Or salvaged their gear

[crystal forum]

but they look cool

[arctic talon]

Bcs the dark mechanicum absolutely would have slaughtered them

For their equipment lol

[queen laurel]

I think they entirely exist for the deep rock galactic players

[arctic talon]

No

They were in dev before drg exploded

But like

[crystal forum]

their vehicles look like futuristic camper vans

[arctic talon]

They’re just boring bcs 9e codexes have 0 lore

And GW keeps n trying to shoehorn them in

Like holy fuck

Squats were around during the heresy

But not the LoV according to their own damn codex

[viral halo]

LoV more like dwarf tau

[arctic talon]

GW is shooting them selves in the foot with LoV

Lore wise

[queen laurel]

They basically just got imperial tech but better, and they live somewhere where you can't normally access it, and their cores are quirky?

[arctic talon]

They should just scrap everything they have

[queen laurel]

Did i run that down right

[viral halo]

its making them a bajillion dollars they do not care

[arctic talon]

It’s a totalitarian regime

Everything is focused on efficiency

Usual dwarf stuff

And they’re doomsday peppers

They aren’t greedy in the sense that they want material wealth

They’re greedy in the sense that they’re Uber paranoid

[queen laurel]

Cave dwelling rock Eaters the lot of them

[arctic talon]

and horde literally everything they can

Also unlike usual dwarf elf dynamics

They like eldar that aren’t dark eldar

And they trade regularly with corsairs and exodites

[queen laurel]

What do they think of the other races again

[arctic talon]

Humans == bad

Mechanicus == very bad

Tau == useful trading partner but too exposed

Chaos == kill at any costs

Orks == kill at any costs

Necrons == good loot

[near wasp]

Nids=stop eating us

[arctic talon]

Yeah

They have pretty “normal” relationships

For a warhammer faction

Also dark eldar == avoid at any cost

[queen laurel]

A pretty surprising thing in this universe

[arctic talon]

Also they really really hate the imperium

Since they’re scared they’ll be annexed

[crimson kayak]

Tbf that's what happens by being a merchant race

[queen laurel]

If the imperium finds out that they have living breathing ai and sentient STCs

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[queen laurel]

They will do more than just that

[near wasp]

The leagues just say "yep there gods nothing to see here"

[arctic talon]

But they really really don’t like the imperium

The only reason they work with them is bcs

They’re abhumans

And they can usually present as independent groups of squats

[queen laurel]

I mean who does?
The imperium if you're not a member of it is one of the worse

[near wasp]

The orcs like the imperium

[arctic talon]

Weirdos on the internet 💀

Also yeah orks like the imperium

It’s a good scrap

[queen laurel]

As enemies not allies, very rarely do the imperium hire Orks as allies

[arctic talon]

As Allies no one likes the imperium long term

Tbh

But they’re by far the best worst option

[near wasp]

Well the umies tell us boys to fight some spiky lads, and then wez gets to fight the umies after!

[queen laurel]

Classic ork tomfoolery

[crimson kayak]

Tbf not even the imperium likes the imperium as allies

[arctic talon]

Yes

[queen laurel]

The son of their ruler literally said, "Horus should have won"

[near wasp]

At least horus didnt lie

[arctic talon]

Oh also the LoV don’t like the Demirug

Bcs they joined the tau empire

[crimson kayak]

Tbf only two brotherhoods are confirmed to have joined the tau

Wich is like, one ship

And one of the small ones by Votann standard too

[echo vault]

I like the idea of humans, outlaws, and rogue space marine elements like the ashen claws working for the leagues like deep rock galactic

[nocturne crest]

Like an underground coalition?

[echo vault]

Yeah pretty much, the ashen claws are 30k raven guard that went on their own, they aren't powerful and are I think close to being wiped out but they exist

[green loom]

Found this post on another server, gonna post it whenever the Malice crazies act up

[green loom]

I'd hope it becomes more common now that Nihilus is cut off

And even if some places stay loyal they're effectively not part of the imperium anymore and have to become self sufficient

[arctic talon]

Ashen claws are exiled Terran parts of the raven guard

[echo vault]

Yeah, stuff like that existing in the post heresy era with black shields and stuff

[arctic talon]

Same with Carcharadons

[echo vault]

Yee they're the raven guard that liked horus' tactics more

[arctic talon]

Carchs got kicked out for being slavers lul

[nocturne crest]

And both groups have a pact with the other.

[crimson kayak]

We kind of had that in Iron kingdom

But then you know indomitus rolled up on their doorstep

[echo vault]

I do think a faction that hates chaos but it's mostly hated by the imperium for a past shame but still does the right thing is a cool idea

[crimson kayak]

So vostroyans?

Well they hate more themselves than the imperium hating them

Oh yeah, Relictors too technically

[celest dome]

Krieg ? ||Eww||

[echo vault]

I mean it'd have to be a bigger shame, like being responsible for killing thousands of Marines during the drop site massacre, where a chapter will go out of its way to try and kill you

[storm jungle]

EXTREMELY based

[nocturne crest]

But still within the imperium or outside of it?

[echo vault]

Outside, self reliant mostly from intense relic acquisition during the scouring and working for the votann living usually in the galactic core area

[nocturne crest]

Is there any recent lore that has Orks using tinboyz?

[storm jungle]

Tinboyz have not been in lore for a long time

aka since 1991 💀

[rose thorn]

reminds me of the lets fuckin g go meme

'babe its time for your being used to make character look cool batter'

'ERE WE FUCKING GO"

[nocturne crest]

I think the last time I heard that phrase was from Fury Road?

[keen stratus]

The World is not ready for Gork and Mork

[frosty stag]

Could any ork evolve back into koroks?

I’ve heard the theory that gazgoul thraka or however you spell it is basically already one but idk

[queen laurel]

He's not an krork he's approaching it but not there

The closest would be the beast

And that guy was just a semi krork

Yet he was already capable of going toe to toe with a Primarch

And the beast orks were horrifying, your basic boy are the size of nobz and nobz are the size war bosses

[queen laurel]

But to answer this question yes in the right environment under specific conditions you can get one

[frosty stag]

Damn

That would be scary as fuck

[queen laurel]

They are nearly 12 m tall and the beast was 10

So if the beast won we could've gotten a krork

[frosty stag]

Damn

[arctic talon]

Also the beast wasn’t in Krork power armor

Which is made out of wraithbone and other materials

[echo vault]

Wait wha

I wanna know how that happened

[arctic talon]

Eldar, Krorks and the old ones were all on the same side

Is literally the answer

And Wraithbone is a old ones creation the eldar utilized heavily

[echo vault]

Ohhh

Thank you, there should be more eldar titans

[arctic talon]

From a lore perspective all the good eldar stuff got lost during the fall

Or is in the dark eldars possession

[echo vault]

Dark eldar don't use wraithbonr

[arctic talon]

They don’t

Because they aren’t psychic

But they still have huge stockpiles

Of eldar empire equipment they can’t use

Because they need to be psychic to use them

And they don’t share with the craftworlds lol

But after the Krorks went out of control the eldar killed them so hard they devolved + they ran out of stuff to fight properly to grow that large

[crimson kayak]

I still want to see a Vorgh appearance someday, being the only current intelligent species naturally As big as titans

[storm jungle]

Lmao it reminds me of Valedor

where the Dark Eldar give a spirit-nuke to the Craftworlders to destroy the nids on the battle they are gonna fight in.

And the dark eldar is like

"Oh did I mention you gotta sacrifice some seers of yours as trigger-men for the bomb to go off? Haha fucking morons lmaooo"

[crimson kayak]

Remember that if the beast won we would have gotten Eye of Terror 2.0 due to the Golden Throne and the infinite daemon farm right under it

So basically war in heaven 2.0 but krorks vs chaos

[queen laurel]

oh damn

that's something to see

[near wasp]

the eternal WAAAAGH

[storm jungle]

It's a tank.

[queen laurel]

oh hey dilara, so if I play DND Grimgor would be an orc fighter with the great weapons feat and heavy armor right

[storm jungle]

pretty much!

Thats what black orks in fantasy are

the most elite and heavy armored ladz

[queen laurel]

what about megabosses are they fighters too?

[storm jungle]

Yep they are

they are just Nobs basically

just with a different name

[queen laurel]

now here's the interesting question who will win in a fight Grimgor or a basic megaboss

[storm jungle]

Grimgor.

Hes a named character and is also a beast in combat.

He literally goes to skaven invested dwarf holds and murders the entire populace just for sport.

[queen laurel]

dnd party: an orc fighter as a boss?
this should be easy
the orc in question

[storm jungle]

Grimgor is great

hes more or less a more leveled down Ghaz

[queen laurel]

i think if he somehow survived he would give gordrakk a run for his money

[storm jungle]

[celest dome]

Not just a normal Skaven infested place. He pushed in a tunnel which was used by Clan Moulder and pushed them back. And left cause he got bored

[storm jungle]

hes a gigachad like that

[queen laurel]

i used to hate the color of iron jawz, but my brain was like then just change the color

[celest dome]

Before the ET. During it I would say its more difficult to say

[queen laurel]

iron jawz make armor in the most metal way possible though

They literally beat the metal into their skin

That's fucking cool

[storm jungle]

AoS orks are legit crazy

the shroom goblins even more so

they get OP by doing weed

[queen laurel]

You remember that old boar boyz that are terrifying because they charge the front lines with enough force to send everyone flying, take that and make the boars and orcs even bigger

[storm jungle]

[queen laurel]

I'm pretty sure Gruntas are boars

[green loom]

"Hammer God never understood Gorkamorka, never saw. Gorkamorka wants to fight forever, but the Hammer God doesn’t. Hammer God wants to build walls and towers and castles... But what’s the point of that if you never knock them over? Even the Chaos-things don’t understand. They think the point is to kill everyone, but then who’d be there to fight? Nobody understands but Ironjawz, because we’re the smartest and the toughest." - Gordrakk

[celest dome]

Mushroom beer

Don't like them though

[queen laurel]

When pancreas no work said that Gordrakk is orc einstein I didn't believe him first but god damn he's right

[crimson kayak]

Me fr fr

[crimson kayak]

I mean, he's the ork who literally deus ex machina'd storm of chaos

[bold mural]

\707

[crisp heath]

reading the lore paints a very different picture of Tertium. Game play wise its your point A to B but lore it's an active frontline battlefield like Squad and such. It's a little jarring lmao

the short stories were a fun read

[storm jungle]

You can see firefights off in the distance in most missions

We are a spec ops team going behind enemy lines and overrun positions for objectives.

https://tenor.com/view/stay-frosty-sneaky-crouch-tactical-gif-20127269

[crisp heath]

ah that makes more sense then

[storm jungle]

Yeee its why most positions you enter have PDF guardsmen holding chokepoints

its mostly environmental storytelling and stuff you can hear sometimes from your commanding officers over the radio so its not super in your face most of the time.

[crisp heath]

yeah, me and a friend noticed some Leman Russ's fighting on a bridge in one of the missions

[storm jungle]

Yeah and you can see active dogfights overhead in Throneside and in the trainyard mission.

[green loom]

Or a lot of dead pdf guardsmen

[storm jungle]

Also that but lets be honest who pays attention

[green loom]

Sometimes dead enforcers spawn

[storm jungle]

also the matching grey camo with the environment makes it a bit hard

also ye that

[green loom]

They mention those a ton

They're demolishers

You go into the factory that makes them at one point

Or was it just the metal fab, dunno

[crisp heath]

we had a laugh when 2 pox bursters spawned behind us in an area with the guardsmen lol.

[green loom]

Funny thing is that demolishers kinda suck for this but it's the only variant the Planet makes

[storm jungle]

Lmao

no cover fire moment

but also yeah they are basically static animated people so lol

not even NPCs

[green loom]

Set dressing

[crisp heath]

yeah, though i do like when devs add stuff like that, fleshes out the world and area

he got me into 40k just recently, he's been a fan for years

[green loom]

It's like how in

Uhh

Space Marine

You had like squads of 5-10 guardsmen standing around

Like they shot and stuff but dealt no damage

[crisp heath]

ye, just adding flavor

[green loom]

Or how in dawn of war 1

You can find squads of guard scattered around

But the majority are pretty useless and die to a stiff breeze

[storm jungle]

literally me

[green loom]

Smh

https://tenor.com/view/rock-gif-24612425

[storm jungle]

[crystal forum]

[rose thorn]

[sweet stirrup]

Such lore going on here

[storm jungle]

I'll post something lore relevant

There, at least makes sense.

[storm jungle]

god

honestly tho 30k has some wack-ass models

[queen laurel]

You started it

[storm jungle]

[storm jungle]

Angry Marines

Death

[celest dome]

Wolfdawgartcorner

[crisp heath]

tbh its kinda spooky looking at the warp rift from the Morningstar
like space and light travel blah blah so it's in reality far far away but yet its so close

Seeing how this map was made before Atoma Prime

[nocturne crest]

What's everyone's thoughts on Abbadon and Huron sparking a war with each other?

[crimson kayak]

They are?

[nocturne crest]

Are they?

[celest dome]

Chaos against Chaos ? Nothing really out of the ordinary

[crimson kayak]

Don't know, but I'll put my money on Huron any day

[crimson kayak]

Sad we are never gonna know where the Moebian Domain actually is

[crisp heath]

[crimson kayak]

Especially considering it's the size of 2/3 of Ultramar

[green loom]

Huron is a fanatic so he may be goaded into stopping Vashtorr?

[nocturne crest]

If anything, I can see Lorgar or Perturabo trying to stop Vashtorr from reaching his goal.

[green loom]

Why?

[nocturne crest]

I don't think Lorgar would be happy with a daemon trying to an equal being to the big four.

[crimson kayak]

The fucker got gifted an Ark of Omen what you talking about mate

[nocturne crest]

I have heard that Perturabo wants to become a god himself, so maybe he'll see Vashtorr as competition?

[crimson kayak]

Oh no wait i confused it with the Blackstone fortress

And their Starfort

[green loom]

Yeah Abby bribed him for his help way back

But Chaos worshippers are always so trustworthy

And Abby is trying to flee from the grip of the big 4

[nocturne crest]

Maybe the return of Fulgrim will involve Abby getting forced back towards the big 4.

[crisp heath]

so what separates the Imperium and Khorn?
that the Imperium does it out of "survival"?

[storm jungle]

Theres no seperation tbh, the Imperium kills for the sake of killing since its incredibly genocidal, they are one of the biggest reasons why Khorne prospers as a god across the galaxy.

In the case of chaos though its "subtle" so almost no Imperial Army really has any idea that their actions of bloodshed feed him

[crisp heath]

I see

[arctic talon]

The imperium actively feeds khorne all the time lol

With how much violence they perpetrate and how bloodlusted their soldiers are

One just isn’t worshiping chaos while doing it lol

[crimson kayak]

The difference is that the imperium doesn't actively worship khorne

And then it stops there

[arctic talon]

Lol

Yeah

The imperium has slightly less gladiatorial death arenas

But that’s not a high bar

[crisp heath]

tbf, I wonder just how much your average foot soldier knows, with the whole grey knights doing secret killings against chaos infestations and well the imperium most likely killing you for the smallest amount of taint.

[arctic talon]

Knowledge of chaos daemons being real is a lot more common now

Mostly since

[crimson kayak]

Almost nothing to a lot depending on the regiment and deployment zone

[arctic talon]

There’s a giant goddamn warp scar cutting the galaxy in half

And daemons pour out of it

[crisp heath]

oh yeah lmaoo, thats true.

[arctic talon]

The grey knights only kill now if it’s like

Absolutely fucked

I.E Warzone Charadon

But they didn’t bother at vigilus

[crimson kayak]

For example the Moebian Domain is Heavily about hiding almost everything that happens in the Fringe Wars

With the Moebian 6th not even being hailed as heroes at their return even through they are the most decorated and elite regiment

Or in general hiding bad stuff under a good guise like how Enricc Baross is hailed as a hero but apparently not so much in the Inquisitorial archives

[crisp heath]

[crimson kayak]

Meanwhile a place like Ultramar post Plague Wars would be very much more lenient with their knowledge of chaos after they got invaded by the full might of the Plague Legions

[crimson kayak]

Especially cause you can't just purge five entire really important sectors

[crisp heath]

true

[crisp heath]

It's another writer thing, no hard and fast rule how much the average person would know

Abnett basically has own Canon where pretty much knows daemons exist and more or less how they work

[crimson kayak]

Something something galaxy is a big place

[nocturne crest]

Anyone got any ideas what the Grey Knights Terminus decree could be?

The thing that will either destroy or save the imperium if implemented?

[crisp heath]

I like the theory that it's instructions on how to turn off the golden throne

We do know that it's specifically a "secret" written on a slip of paper

And the seal on the box is the golden throne itself which is supposed to be the "big hint"

But honestly I don't think even GW knows and if they ever decide to do something with it, it's probably going to be thought up a few months before it's printed

But yeah, off switch for the throne, or the emperor's true name, or some kind of spell that will ressurect the emperor before he's "ready"

Something something Grey knights touch the throne and all hell breaks loose

[crimson kayak]

It most surely regards the death of the emperor

Now if that's due to a possible nu star child thingie or just to have him fully Ascend as a god its another thing entirely

With probably something regarding the Lion sword thing considering what happens in the last Cypher book

[nocturne crest]

So something they'll save for the 40k version of the end times?

[crystal forum]

so is there a consensus about what the next big lore event will be

[arctic talon]

Prolly just more nid stuff

But beyond that no

We don’t even know if GW is doing warzone supplements this edition

[rose thorn]

Imagine if they put the harlequins faction rules in a white dwarf

(Again)

[arctic talon]

Ironic

But that would be better then how it is rn for clowns

[celest dome]

What if they brought a new Harlequin named character... but make it available only to an Imperial faction

[arctic talon]

Again

[nocturne crest]

So here's an odd question, but if GW bring back Dorn, will they give him a robot hand to replace the one he lost?

[green loom]

Probablyt

[desert dust]

No he will get a pirate hook

[celest dome]

Some people think we he will get the Emp's Gauntlet thingy

[rose thorn]

What if it’s just the emperors left hand fuckinh super glued on

[nocturne crest]

Makes sense. Better be the greatest power fist in existence.

[remote widget]

Why is it less amazing if the emperor is a man, rather than a god?, to the IOM?

Surely that is better, "look at the almighty power of the Man Emperor, and what we may become, etc..."

[green loom]

Manifest destiny

There's also like

5 layers of propaganda stuff to it

If he was just a guy then he could make mistakes and be doubted
But if you doubt the sacred word of a living god you can just be killed

[echo vault]

Why aren't there more pirates

We got vampire coast, dwarf slayer pirates, and that's it

[nocturne crest]

Ashen Claws are pirates.

[arctic talon]

Same reason irl religion doesn;t

[desert dust]

Because a God represents a powerful idea and culture.
That said the Greek gods are basically humans with to much power sleeping with everything with 2 legs ||some times 4|| and getting angry over everything.

[queen laurel]

it's easier to bring down a man than a god

[echo vault]

Do high elves use crossbows

[queen laurel]

in what setting?

if you're talking about warhammer fantasy, it seems only the dark elves use it

[echo vault]

Damn I wish elves did that would be cool

[crimson kayak]

And red corsairs

And the Eldar corsairs

And Freeboota

[rose thorn]

And also regular pirates too

[storm jungle]

We got

• Chaos Pirates
• Human Pirates
• Eldar Pirates
• Alien/Human Pirates
  etc etc

The large issue of this stems from the fact that 40k makes the galaxy itself seem extremely small where you just assume theres no vacuum of space where small factions or pocket groups like this exists.

[queen laurel]

Rogue traders are legal pirates yeah

[storm jungle]

They arent pirates

going by IRL terminology they are Privateers

the pirates im talking about are actual human pirates

[queen laurel]

I'm surprised those exist must be pretty good at hiding

[storm jungle]

I mean

• Its space

• Same as IRL, avoid authorities

[queen laurel]

It's a useful skill set

[storm jungle]

[queen laurel]

Speaking of remembering stuff, I just remembered this is basically what happens to bane wolf victims

[storm jungle]

They got owned

[queen laurel]

Perks of carrying a giant gun capable of shooting corrosive sludge and having a literal gun that shoots microwaves to boil the insides of people as a secondary

When you're fighting insects the Geneva convention becomes the Geneva suggestionn

[crisp heath]

Pirate talk got me back on Kaarja Salombar. I am obsessed with this woman

[crimson kayak]

I still find it funny that's one of the only instances of Eldar actively working for chaos

[crisp heath]

Maybe she got bullied for not having her soul owned by Slaanesh so she decided to give it over willingly

[queen laurel]

Out of curiosity i looked her up, and it's implied that she apparently has eldar blood?

[crimson kayak]

She has Eldar corsairs under her command and can keep up in melee with space marines

She's basically Eldar without being said outright

[queen laurel]

that's fair

[crisp heath]

Yeah she's either a really toned down Eldar or a really kicked up human

She's always treated as if she's human even though she has an eldar face and does eldar shit

[queen laurel]

And of course it's a secret how she's that badass

[crisp heath]

She's only really heavily mentioned in one novel and one short story though

She was mentioned in 5th edition very passingly

[green loom]

Her death sounds badass and makes me like Sicarius more

[crisp heath]

Oh he makes a whole speech about it

after he kills her he actually reads almost like TTS Sicarius lmao

very, very hammy

[queen laurel]

I will give her my respect though because she is pretty amazing

[green loom]

Is that while he's trying to piss on Corsair morale?

[crisp heath]

...

"The question is irrelevant, sergeant,” said Sicarius, taking the banner from him. “I was not wrong, and I have won a great victory for the Second and the Ultramarines. That is all that matters, do you understand?”```

idk he just feels like a bit of a self absorbed dickhead to me here

[green loom]

Oh yeah that's him

He doesn't get humbled until well after Guilliman's return

[crisp heath]

I do like him in the Dark Imperium books tho

He killed the only 40k woman I would ever even consider for waifu though, so I am writing a letter to GW asking them to reconsider their current ultramarines line and convince them that Guilliman doesn't really need a bodyguard

[green loom]

Time to hit more meme-people with an axe

[crisp heath]

Oh also he got a kill assist in that fight

Like she was already dying when he finished her off

[green loom]

I know, he holds her after getting stabbed then his buddy drives a flagpole through her

This sounds incredibly sexual for some reason

[crisp heath]

Anyway worst decision in all of 40k lore, I will stand by that

Give me back my wife

[green loom]

Write her as a daemon prince?

It's what happened to that one lady and Cain

Kept dying and becoming more daemony

[crisp heath]

Ew no she'd be a slaanesh character then

She can stay dead in hindsight

Oh I guess Felicia Tayber is also waifu material, but I forgot she exists because the elf pirate entered the room, so I guess she's my rebound

[terse flume]

well, i mean every privateer is considered a pirate to the non-issuing nation, i bet rogue traders can be pretty loot and pillaging when it comes to non-imperium traffic

[storm jungle]

I mean yeah but that doesnt stop them from being privateers

[terse flume]

sure, fair

[storm jungle]

They dont really man shitty ships with disease ridden crews that want to raid and pillage everything.

Compared to actual 40k/IRL pirates

at the end of the day it is basically the same thing i agree though, one just has its own term because they do it in more Style™️

[green loom]

Funny thing I noticed about hammer and bolter
Every faction is hand drawn, except marines

Marines are all 3d scans

[storm jungle]

yeah its stupid lmao

[queen laurel]

Oh hey dilara, i have another daily question for you, how much damage will an ork the size of a imperator titan cause to the universe of warhammer?

[storm jungle]

I mean a lot

that doesnt really require an opinion i think

[queen laurel]

That is fair now i wonder how the factions will plan to bring down something like that

They will have to be pulling a lot of things out of their ass for this situation

[storm jungle]

they'd do what they always do

Use random mcguffin we never heard of before

[queen laurel]

"Quick, bring out the vegan we've been starving and drugging for the past 10,000 years"

"How is he alive"

"Not important"

[green loom]

Big bombs

Usually the go to for anything too large for conventional weapons

[queen laurel]

But to be fair a krork of that size would probably be wearing power armor of unthinkable mastery

They will need that shit to pack a real punch

[green loom]

Big bomb no care

[queen laurel]

Damnit this is way too good of an argument

[green loom]

You were overthinking, the ork way of doing things is usually not wrong

"Big thing? Make big bomb"

[queen laurel]

To be fair a krork is definitely not orky in thinking

And who knows the power armor might be big enough to have a shield capable of covering an entire hive city

[green loom]

Imperators are not hive city sized

And after a certain point, how advanced something is stops mattering provided the hammer you're using to break it is big enough

[queen laurel]

No matter how strong your building is, the force of a natural disaster will bring it down eventually

[green loom]

Breaking things is easier than making them unbreakable, or something

[crimson kayak]

Tau already have an auxiliary species that can naturally go toe to toe with super heavy walkers

So I guess take that, but bigger and angrier

[queen laurel]

That is true

But it's probably a lot more armored and has a lot more firepower

[crimson kayak]

Proceeds to use a small Hive spire as a club

[queen laurel]

Turns tower into a power sword

[nocturne crest]

Have they ever made the bane wolf's weapon use-able by infantry?

[crimson kayak]

You literally can't as the toxic fumes would also melt the user lol

[nocturne crest]

Ah.

That did slip my mind.

[crimson kayak]

"Using such a horrific weapon is not without its risks as should environmental conditions change on the battlefield, the highly acidic clouds of gas can quickly drift over the Imperial Guard's own troops, killing and maiming infantry and even affecting tank crews if their vehicle is not completely sealed against such toxic airborne contaminants. So when a Bane Wolf rumbles past, it is up to a regiment's Commissars to ensure that the Imperial Guard troops do not immediately flee in fear of the death their own engines of war can unleash "

So yeah, maybe it could be reused by skitarii

But definetly not guard

[celest dome]

Isn't there a Regiment that make a lot of use of Toxic flamer, look like Skitarii Rangers

[crimson kayak]

Miasman redcowls

But it's not toxic as much as it's extremely foul smelling, they are in general more about flames than toxins

And they love their flames at basically a SoB level

[nocturne crest]

How about servitors?

[crimson kayak]

In general the less your flesh is needed the better for such a thing

And yeah combat servitors are basically lobotomized skitarii anyway

[celest dome]

Usually they are less upgraded, so they would probably degrade much faster

[crimson kayak]

But hey, if you want people unknownwingly bathing themselves in radiation/toxic stuff you can always look at the Van Saar boys

(Btw love of Necromunda ex guard member all sports parts of the rogue trader days armour)

[green loom]

Wait a fucking minute

Arks of Omen is just the keystone plot from Starcraft 2

[crimson kayak]

??

It's literally just "Mcguffin it's hidden, treasure hunt time"

wich btw i still find it funny how the whole of arks of omen is just the setup for another setup before it will actually have a maybe proper climax

[green loom]

If it isn't just left there

[crimson kayak]

That would be even funnier

Vashtoor trying to find the Lock would become the new "Ahriman searches for the Black Library"

[storm jungle]

Bruh

adeptus ridiculous legit gave Shy's cringe dating sim game ad an advertisement in their new video

I wanna die

[crimson kayak]

Wot

[green loom]

The what

[desert dust]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5Alceyy_ufg&pp=ygUSSmltIGpvbmVzIGkgYW0gZ29k

[crisp heath]

Hey we might be 40k fans first and foremost but don't you dare blaspheme against star-crosst

I will admit though uh

I need to check and see if you can turn the voice acting off

[green loom]

What's that

[crisp heath]

It's Shy's dating sim

[green loom]

Why's that

[storm jungle]

||Because as much as she makes fun of people for being degenerate and cringe shes also one ||

Not that im denying im not one either but still

[green loom]

I only waste my time on stuff that's worth it

[crisp heath]

Do you want to date a lizard?

[green loom]

No

[crisp heath]

coward

[green loom]

Birds are cooler anyway

[crisp heath]

I will say, they made

an interesting choice

which was making a dating sim in unity

The only other (well, good enough for me to remember) dating sim I know that does that is Heaven Will Be Mine, and to call HWBM a "dating sim" is being incredibly loose with the term

[crimson kayak]

God for a second I thought it was a stronghold dating sim

[crisp heath]

Well, I briefly mentioned HWBM so I had to go on wikipedia and make sure it was made in unity

And then I see the artist is credited as "Max Schwartz" so I got really mad like "oh, are they just deadnaming her on wikipedia?"

And then I realized I didn't even know if she was trans in the first place and ended up on a scavenger hunt for her pronouns

tl;dr she's not trans she just changed her name to Max at some point when I stopped caring about her

That was my adventure for the day. Bonjour.

[rose thorn]

Question: Votaan genestealer cult,

[green loom]

Mmm

Unlikely/maybe isolated incident?

[rose thorn]

Understandable

[green loom]

What if Ragnar is just Russ reincarnated

[storm jungle]

What if, I shoot you.

[green loom]

Please?

Behold, Ventanus

[keen stratus]

Hey Guys, i found the drive where slaanesh storage all its porn

[keen stratus]

STAY AWAY KHORNATE

[arctic talon]

[nocturne crest]

What if, Dorn returned to overthrow the imperium?

[frosty stag]

That would be bad?

[green loom]

Dorn killed Abaddon and took his place

[crystal forum]

dorn sees the inefficiency in abaddon's crusades so decided to improve it

[unborn apex]

Or vulkan kills all the daemon prince primarchs what then?

[near wasp]

I think dorn would take over just so another blackstone fortress didnt get lost

[undone zodiac]

I heard he hid in word bearers flagship for months

[nocturne crest]

Can the admech be effected as badly as your regular human when fighting nurgle?

[celest dome]

Yes

[green loom]

Machinery can rust and they're not fully machine

[arctic talon]

Nurgle includes rust

And scrap code

[celest dome]

And Glitchling

[nocturne crest]

So a battle servitor infected by Nurgle would be possible then?

[celest dome]

Yes

Even full Automaton would work

Or Vehicle

[nocturne crest]

Damn.

[arctic talon]

Yeah the traitor legio cybernetica had “issues” with nurgle to say the least

[nocturne crest]

I guess that can't appear in Darktide, because that's a Death Guard unit.

[arctic talon]

I mean

It’s a plague drone

It’s got the armor of a light transport

Nothing we have except the plasma gun, psyker weapons and power sword can realistically hurt it

[arctic talon]

Technically it’s a dark mechanicum unit lore wise

[crimson kayak]

Also post Gellerpox creation the plague is literally just gonna fuse you to the machine anyway

[celest dome]

I think a Sentinel would be in the top most of what we could expect in machinery

[arctic talon]

Yeah

The plague drone is more heavily armored

[celest dome]

It is ?

[arctic talon]

And has all sorts of wonderful “gifts” to keep it going

[crimson kayak]

Also yeah in dark imperium when odrameyer bashes his tank into Ku'Gath the tank literally starts to melt and rust away in minutes

[arctic talon]

Tabletop wise yes

And from a lore perspective I’d assume so

It’s a heavily infected Legio Cybernetica automata with a daemon shoved into it

And legio cybernetica automata are notoriously durable in lore

[rose thorn]

The glitchlings!

It’s a stretch but a demon army for vashtoor themed like these fuckeds woul be cool

[crimson kayak]

God I'd love an actual cogs of Vashtoor army

[celest dome]

Dark Mechanicum
Give it a faction that is personal/tied to Vashtoor

[near wasp]

Got another of my friends into warhammer

He is a blood angels fan

[nocturne crest]

Yeah, I could see people being definitely interested with a dark mechanicum army.

[celest dome]

I managed to make a friend get interested in Warhammer 40k, then his gf got interested in it (Mostly modeling/painting minis) and then she now has 2 or 3 AoS armies

[near wasp]

Nice

I have not managed to get any of my friends to fall to choas, but im trying

[celest dome]

Think he has a Space Wolf army, she now has Fish Elf, Sky Dwarf iirc and some Crow dude, though those are not really an army I guess

[crimson kayak]

Yay another Kharadon enjoyer

Sadly due to the mix of tabletop being more niche around my parts, low income jobs and high costs of life it's kinda hard to pull people into the hobby here

[nocturne crest]

Can you imagine if they add a Digganobz sub-faction for the orks?

[arctic talon]

Lol

[celest dome]

A Digganobz Kill Team that can be picked for Ork would be quite fun

Or that Ogryn group that work for the Orks

[nocturne crest]

Maybe you could use those new Jackals.

*Jakhals.

[keen nova]

Just how powerful is a tempestus scion anyway?

[storm jungle]

basically just imagine a Navy SEAL with an automatic lasgun

thats kind of it, they act and operate the same way

[green loom]

Except with fancy armor!

Tomorrow I'm gonna be trying to draw some canon chars, any recommendations?

[crystal forum]

most lasguns can be automatic

[crystal forum]

you'll often see people saying helgun but that's just another name for hot shot lasguns. they require backpacks as you can see on the scion

[arctic talon]

Better then a normal guardsmen in every way lore wise, they have better armor, guns, training and usually deploy from ships

Scions are usually a match for the best of a guard regiment

[crystal forum]

in the overall scheme of things, scions suck ass. all guardsmen are expendable, even kasrkin who are considered the top dogs

[arctic talon]

^

Being the cream of the crop of guardsmen still means you’re unfortunately a guardsmen

On the upside you’ll prolly live way longer and you have a much better gun

[storm jungle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914161923334214/1123609358052376706/yes.gif

[crystal forum]

after a month and a half of learning about guardsmen im now an expert on this shit

[green loom]

Would it be weird for a fallen to wind up in the Red Corsairs?

[arctic talon]

No

The red corsairs aren’t picky on recruits

As long as you don’t like the imperium

And don’t hate chaos taint

[green loom]

Alright, going to make a primarily mortal group organized by a fallen

[arctic talon]

Also mortals in the red corsairs usually get a slightly less shit life

Then other legions

[green loom]

Most of the legions don't have functional empires ig

[arctic talon]

Yeah

They also are ironicailly quite diverse for a csm group

Due to how they recruit literally anyone who doesn’t like the imperium and doesn’t hate chaos

[green loom]

I've got this idea for him to run a web of cults/criminal groups through a bit of imperial space

With it being mostly centered on one planet

[arctic talon]

Sounds fun

[keen nova]

How good is it? That's the main thing for me! Also their helmets!

[arctic talon]

You can survive a bolter shot sometimes

The armor will be ruined

But you’ll live

[green loom]

They get berets

So immediately +30000 for style points

[arctic talon]

Carapace armor is very durable against small arms fire or weak lasguns

[keen nova]

Sometimes the hotshot is an overcharged (illegally) regular lasgun too. That's from luten though so I dunno

[arctic talon]

But it still suffers from guardsmen don’t get the best gear

Carapace armor is great for killing rebels, putting down riots and killing cultists

[keen nova]

Real shit? That's awesome! Wait a human size bolter or?

[arctic talon]

But a tau pulse rifle is gona blow right through it in 2 shots

[arctic talon]

Just a bolter

Bolters that are human sized and marine sized use the same caliber

You can usually eat one and live in carapace

You’ll get a bunch of bones broken potentially and it’ll hurt

But you’ll live

Carapace armor is great against basic ork shootas as well

[keen nova]

Man I really need a simulator type game to test all of this

[arctic talon]

But against anything like a bolter don’t expect to live more then a shot

[arctic talon]

Tbh tau pulse rifles are usually == to bolters or marginally better in lore

So I’m going off of that

[green loom]

Problem is when fighting most enemies with bolters
They know all this and will line shots up to double tap you and make sure you die

[arctic talon]

Against something like an eldar shiroken weapon you’re fucked

That stuff cuts through power armor like butter

Or some of the larger tyranid guns

[green loom]

Most lethal weapon

Sticks

[arctic talon]

Lol

Real

You forgot the rocks

[storm jungle]

Honestly yeah people dont realise how bad shuriken weapons are lmao

like imagine a bullet that literally twirls and cuts everything that it passes through 💀

[arctic talon]

Some of them explode

[storm jungle]

you will LITERALLY look like that guy that dies at the beginning of Cube

[arctic talon]

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

Shuriken weapons are up there in terms of lethal weapons in 40K

Their biggest “downside” is you have to be a psyker to operate them

which isn’t an issue for craftworld eldar

[storm jungle]

it also regrows its own ammo so thats good

(:

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

At least theres worse alternatives

[arctic talon]

Tbf carapace armor does let you live dark eldar splinter weapons

Real shame the dark eldar want you alive

[storm jungle]

POV: You are about to get your soul SUCC'D

[green loom]

What are some chars that don't get a lot of artwork

[arctic talon]

How obscure are we talking

Like major character with no art

Or obscure ass mf’er mentioned in 3 lines in a codex

[green loom]

They exist and are talked about but just lack art

[arctic talon]

You want marines, chaos?

Admech, guard

[green loom]

Honestly it's whatever, marines are easiest

[arctic talon]

👍

BRB

For dark angels Ezikiel, Saphion both of which are very important

Have like 0 art

If you want another chapter I can oblige but I’m lazy

[nocturne crest]

Is there any art of Marbas?

The Fallen Angel Daemon prince with the lion head?

[storm jungle]

Yeah one

because hes a footnote character

[green loom]

Marbas might be cool to make

[storm jungle]

I had a furry friend who uh

went nuts seeing this artwork

[green loom]

Why

[storm jungle]

Why the fuck do you think

[crystal forum]

that's so fucking metal

[nocturne crest]

Maybe Marbas will get a model and take over as master of the fallen angels from Luthor.

I mean, what Luthor going to do now that the Lion has returned.

[crimson kayak]

Oh shit i didn't knew he actually got art

A shame he's much worse than I thought, his description doesn't match at all lol

[storm jungle]

Hold on

nevermind this is fucking fanart

[crimson kayak]

Lol

[storm jungle]

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/aGxEW2

but of course, the morons at the 40k wiki have it on display

[crimson kayak]

Lel

I like the drawing, but it doesn't really match the mockery of a dark angel as he's described

[storm jungle]

Yeah that.

its definitely nicely made but to quote the Arch Douche himself

https://tenor.com/view/not-quite-my-tempo-jk-simmons-fletcher-whiplash-thats-not-my-tempo-gif-18304680

[crimson kayak]

Also the head is a regular daemon lion and not a Caliban lion

Oh wait... That's also a fan art

But Atleast it matches the description of a Caliban lion a bit better

Oh no wait it's not

Lol

[storm jungle]

You mean that picure above?

[crimson kayak]

Ye i saw its not fan art

[storm jungle]

yeah no its from when GW included some 30k artwork in the shit they published.

it was very comic book'y

[crimson kayak]

God how many times I saw this one colorized

[storm jungle]

same

[crisp heath]

Fuck I love abaddon not having a tactical rock to stand on so the just fuck up the one specific floor tile under his feet

[nocturne crest]

Have any of you all ever seen something from one faction that looks like it belongs in another?

I feel like should be a imperium vehicle

[crystal forum]

rooftop shingles add +3 armour

[nocturne crest]

Also, another thought. Would it be in character for the SoB to have a rhino variant with a mine flail on the front, but they use it to flagellate heretics and xenos instead of mine clearance?

[crimson kayak]

I mean yeah

I wouldn't be surprised if the flail ends also shot flames tbh

[rose thorn]

Gw worked really hard to make sure the necromunda squats look different from@the leagues of Votaan

But

Here comes forge world

Making a mode literlaly less then a head swap away from being a lov model

[queen laurel]

Me in deep rock galactic playing solo with my friend bosco

[crystal forum]

is there any functional difference between primaris intercessors and tactical marines

[arctic talon]

From a gameplay point of view intercessors are better at holding objectives and Tacticals have access to better guns

[crystal forum]

what about lore

[arctic talon]

Lore wise there’s no real difference

One is just primaris

The other is firstborn

But primaris can form tactical squads

From a lore standpoint they might as well be the same thing

[crystal forum]

i wish they kept the names

tactical and assault is straightforward

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[crystal forum]

wtf is the action of intercesating (?)

[arctic talon]

Still less of a mouthful then what they call them in HH

Who the fuck thought Legion tactical support squad was a good name

I am going to strangle them(not actually but still)

[crystal forum]

don't forget the mark of the armour

[arctic talon]

The special/heavy weapons are worse lol

[crystal forum]

legion tactical support squad mark VI armour

[arctic talon]

Legion special weapons fire support squad in MKIV power armor

Or Legion Heavy weapons support team in MKII power armor

The primaris naming scheme as bad as it is

Doesn’t make me want to blow my brains out

Reading the book

The actual name in the book for the tactical support squad is even worse tbh

Legiones Astartes Tactical Support squad

Like ???? Why the fuck

Why is it so wordy

[crystal forum]

btw

[shadow plover]

Couple extra organs and a tad bit taller

[crystal forum]

is wooden parts on bolters cringe

[arctic talon]

No

Don’t see why it would be personally

[shadow plover]

The tactics and all that are pretty identical but intercessors do have a slightly more powerful gun

[arctic talon]

Which firstborn also use sometimes

Marines are versatile with their load outs

[shadow plover]

Oh and on tabletop primaris have one more melee attack

Both have two wounds nowadays

[arctic talon]

They normalized it this edition

Iirc

[shadow plover]

Nah they still get 2 whilst primaris have 3 attacks

[arctic talon]

Oh

Nvm then

Oh yeah sternguard are in MKX

I forgor

[coarse pumice]

Afaik primaris have 3 attacks like chaos marines due to having a pistol and close combat weapon on top of their normal weapon

[shadow plover]

No it's just flat 3 with the close combat weapon, all tac marines have pistols too

[coarse pumice]

Not the 10e close combat weapon

The old rule pre 8th where you got an extra attack

This is the case for chaos

But primaris might have the old veteran bonus attack

10e has separated profiles with stuff baked in so you don’t know where the attacks are coming from

So before, if you had one guy with 2 attacks on profile but he had a pistol, chain sword and bolter he would get a bonus attack for pistol+chainsword; if took away either the pistol or chainsword only and had a bolter and pistol or bolter and chainsword, he would end up with one fewer attacks

The 10e ‘close combat weapon’ is just attacks for models without a specific weapon

[rose thorn]

Wood bolters look much better then the metal one tbh

To me

[crimson kayak]

Wood parts are always fancier

looks at the service rifle from new vegas

[nocturne crest]

There is some class to having wood furniture on weapons.

[crisp heath]

From what I see Int marines are a flat improvement over Tac marines

[arctic talon]

Tactical marines get access to special weapons

And heavy weapons

[shadow plover]

They are if you're not seeking for aforementioned special or heavy weapons

[rose thorn]

I might just end up painting my first born for HH

Idk

[crystal forum]

it won't fit the era though

which is why i find the change to primaris so weird

firstborn stuff is too new for HH yet too old for 40k

stuck in a limbo

[storm jungle]

its not really old for 40k

Marines in 40k literally use 30k gear at times

theres no reason for them to stop slapping that shit onto Mark X parts of their armor when it gets damaged our goes out of use

Tho tabletop wise the size difference is deffo an issue

[rose thorn]

I gas lit my self into thinking that gw will leave first born around so I can bulk buy them off eBay

I’ll wuat to see for the space marine reveal

[crystal forum]

i meant on the tabletop

[storm jungle]

[crystal forum]

i still hate primaris helmets

[storm jungle]

3D printing Primaris sized stuff is usually the way to go

because the artworks DO show them with pre-Primaris gear ontop of their Mark X armor

[crystal forum]

why did they have to fuck with the most iconic piece of armour in the entire franchise

primaris be like

im going to spread the rumour that they changed the helmet because disney threatened legal action due to the old one looking like darth vader

[crimson kayak]

Because anything closer to MkIV armour is an upgrade

Also get an image of a combi power fist-claw

[rose thorn]

I already had a few first born marines, I know dark angels won’t get rid of their veteran models since they are sudo the new risen models

But like

I’ve seems a few guides on converting first born into primaris

I need that paper card shit

It just feels icky that models just can’t be used despite being valid and shit

Well

Not can’t be used

But ya know what’s I mean

The threat of it being exterminated

[arctic talon]

Mfw I love MKIV power armor

[rose thorn]

Like I could run first born as primaris

Cut thus could@look good or add

Taht could* ass*

[green loom]

See top right

[rose thorn]

I love those fuckers so much

[arctic talon]

New sternguard are a lot better imo

Bcs I don’t need to do conversions to make them look like not ultramarines

[crystal forum]

i keep seeing this mentioned and i have no idea what it is

[arctic talon]

Cardstock

It’s a thingy

It’s an arts and craft product usually for fancy personal messages or birthday messages

But it’s quite durable and is great for Kitbashing

[crystal forum]

ah ok i just looked at a video

so this is what people did before 3d printing

[arctic talon]

Green stuff as well

But that stuff is super finicky

[crisp heath]

Speaking of kitbashing

I'm getting a bunch of Victoria minis stuff and I'm finally going to put together an Inq28 warband

Centered around that blank inquisitor character I've brought up before

[arctic talon]

Nice

[crisp heath]

Gonna start with this as a base, cut off the scope of one of her pistols and swap the other one out with a power claw

And then I found a female head with a tricorn hat I want to use if it looks good

[rose thorn]

OH I had no clue thanks

[rose thorn]

I had the same issue too

[green loom]

I beseech the lore chat for cultist and renegade references!

Going to make some underlings for Medraut

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/typing-computer-twitter-gif-12385391

[green loom]

Chad

[storm jungle]

No worries.

[green loom]

That rogue trader stuff looks about perfect for the more criminal part

[storm jungle]

they are the most basic cultist look since its from the minis so its a safe bet

[green loom]

Going to have a more professional "crew" portion that makes up the core of the warband
Professionals and trusted agents, competent operatives and mercs
And then the cults, that aren't directly run by them but are equipped and egged on

[near wasp]

ive been thinking about making a free blade oc and building a knight model to go along with it

[crimson kayak]

Yooo it's the Chinese new year khornate skin

[slate pelican]

Hey im new to the 30K universe, but am a fan of the Fantasy universe, what are some basics to getting into 30K

[arctic talon]

You want to get into the Horus Heresy specifically right?

If you aren't averse to buying rulebooks/piracy I'd recomend reading both Liber Traitoris and Liber Imperialis

[slate pelican]

alright sounds good, thanks man

[arctic talon]

Beyond that there's some other stuff I could recommend but unless you want to read the Horus Heresy Serise(don't read everything there's a lot of garbage)

[rose thorn]

YEs!

[nocturne crest]

Odd question, but is it within the realm of possibility for a free blade knight pledge their allegiance to the Deathwatch?

[arctic talon]

Not particularly

but they could work closely with it

the Deathwatch are very much a marine only orginization that utilizes only marine forces

[celest dome]

They could be pledged to an Inquisitor who then work with the Deathwath

[crimson kayak]

As cacti said, not Deathwatch but Ordo Xenos yes

So you can handwave it that the particular inquisitor/ordo official work very closely with the deathwatch

[keen stratus]

Bitch what the fuck calm down, they just asked you 1 thing, you say your khornate but thats some Tzeenchi shit right there

[storm jungle]

wha-

[keen stratus]

too much images

information

my brain hurts

i admire that dedication

[storm jungle]

He asked for refs so yes

im not just gonna post a single picture

[keen stratus]

yeah

just know

that you are tzeentchi now

for those images and because you write a bible every time someon asks for the time

[queen laurel]

Hey dilara i have a question, how volatile is ork programming

[storm jungle]

Programming?

[queen laurel]

Say an ork mek decides to make robots how volatile is the programmed personality

[storm jungle]

Honestly probably pretty volatile

we literally got 1 example of ork robots and its from the 90's

[queen laurel]

Yes so i want to make that but on modern day, so i'm thinking of ways to implement ork ai

My current approach is using squig

You know make a special type of squig like a brain squig

Will serve as a foundation for how the thing functions and thinks

[storm jungle]

yeah that sounds about right for orks

[queen laurel]

Yeah i would just also make it real steel as a popular pastime for the orks in Ard'Gobs ship

Of course they are deployed in battle but you know use them when you can

[nocturne crest]

Couldn't they just use grots?

Sorry, I just reread what you said.

[queen laurel]

Yes, but those are best served for the killa kans

[queen laurel]

No it's alright, i did forget to include grot brains as a good base for Ork ai intelligence

But they would be pretty cowardly, probably not ideal

[nocturne crest]

What if you rigged explosives in them in the event of cowardice?

[queen laurel]

Nah, save the explosives for the bomb squigz or the tank bustaz

I want them to stay in the front line and not leave

Something like an ambot

[nocturne crest]

I was thinking more along the lines of those bomb collar concept from Fallout

[queen laurel]

Yes, but those are wasted on scrap, why make cowardly robots if you can make robots that are aggressive and are terrifying fighters

[nocturne crest]

Ah.

What about using both Grot and Squig brains?

Then when the time comes, cut off the connect to the grot brain from the body.

[queen laurel]

Take the good parts from a grot brain like the intelligence, and add aggressiveness and ferocity of a squig

My god

Your genius

[nocturne crest]

Thank you Boss.

[nocturne crest]

I just remembered that the world eaters have or had something similar with their terminators.

[crimson kayak]

I mean, an ork robot could also just be an extremely modified cybork

[storm jungle]

yeah but its not the same thing

thats like saying a techpriest is a robot

[crimson kayak]

Also runtbots are a thing

[storm jungle]

they arent the same as Tinboyz

[crimson kayak]

I mean, Tinboyz are also said to be very simplistic in terms if machinery and actual ai and stuff

Even through they can look like this

No wait wrong image

That's a runtbot

[storm jungle]

Im gonna turn you into a runtbot in a second

[crimson kayak]

Here some proppa tinboyz

[storm jungle]

Primaris got nothing on these

[nocturne crest]

Imagine a tinboy knight.

[arctic talon]

Lmao

[rose thorn]

Imagine being a fan of warhammer around the rogue trader era and getting time travelled into the future and seeing modern warhammee

[crystal forum]

you'd have a heart attack at the prices alone

[arctic talon]

Game was expensive for a wargame back then iirc

[kind pivot]

It's a good birthday!

[crystal forum]

happy birthday man

[rose thorn]

Necromunda question, is there a good lore explanation for like, painting your gangers different or kit bashing them?

I want the squats but I don’t want to paint them that way

[celest dome]

Each gang usually have their own colours (not houses)

[rose thorn]

OhHhh

OHHHHH I see now

[rose thorn]

Thank you

[frosty stag]

The way skaven speak makes me giggle uncontrollably

[celest dome]

Gangs also some time happen to overlap over to houses too

[arctic talon]

Yes yes man thing keep smart think skaven won’t kill kill

[frosty stag]

With enough warpstone could i tame a skaven

Do skaven boggle?

[arctic talon]

Idk

But skaven are like inherently evil lol

As an entire species

[frosty stag]

I could befriend one

Name him samual

[arctic talon]

He would call you slurs and figure out how to kill you in your sleep

[frosty stag]

Id wake up and make my death dramatic af and never tell him about my warpstone stash

Warhammer is so sad

We should get a happy ending

[crystal forum]

welp im starting the second soul drinkers omnibus

time for some more wacky lore

and it's starting with a royal type guard regiment that has no history in main lore

[wicked vector]

Why does that plasma have a magazine

[coarse pumice]

I remember being able to get a pack of 4 aspect warriors for £5 and exarch for £3, and the price had already done up by then

Though some things were more expensive like Jetbikes

Which ironically haven’t gone up that much