40k-lore-chat

[storm jungle]

I remember reading that shit in my uni course class, god

[crystal forum]

i wish i had to read any interesting books

[queen laurel]

At least you can god damn read

[storm jungle]

Same.

[desert dust]

With sign language while talking about non sus business

[queen laurel]

I try to read and my brain goes off to another direction

[storm jungle]

Bene Genneserit are literally

LOST

in the sauce

[desert dust]

It's called audiobooks

[storm jungle]

also this

[desert dust]

You can even get them for free if your a broke school student

[crystal forum]

hey i have attention issues too. it's normal for me to read a page like 10 times before getting anywhere

but i've been reading ever since i was a loser child so i got used to it

[queen laurel]

Me give it like 20 times before i get what the f*** is going on

[desert dust]

I don't read books anymore tbh just read manga

[crystal forum]

my first book was a tintin comic

in french 🇧🇪

[crystal forum]

i got a trick for that. there's two ways i read:

slowly, where i read character and location descriptions then close the book and try to mentally create an image in my head i can remember. this takes a while but lets me visually follow the plot easier with different characters

quickly, where i just insert joe shmoe faceless character as every person and vague outlines of locations from my memories of actual locations

[desert dust]

I feel like the worse way of that is listen to the audiobook twice

[crystal forum]

idk audiobooks are nice but they don't allow you to read cool action stuff with music

music can improve the reading experience so much

[desert dust]

Could play music over the Audiobook

I completely zone music out for large stretches of time so I can't listen to music while using my brain

Can do while cooking or cleaning easily but reading or games doesn't work for me

[queen laurel]

Same, i really want to listen to spotify while playing deep rock galactic but it's just not possible

And plus the built-in music in games tends to fit the situation a lot more

The adrenaline pumping as dance of the dreadnought place while i fight a horde is always amazing

[green loom]

Imagine if we gave the server an AoS theme for April fools

Meme chat would go madn

[queen laurel]

Let the chat burn

[echo vault]

Good, pain is good. What is your guys favorite aos stuff

King brodd is cool

[echo vault]

This stuff is amazing

More artillery in general is greatly appreciated

Plus the style is perfect

[green loom]

Goons in meme chat meanwhile calling it shit while never glancing at it

[echo vault]

Well AoS equals bad, it's the channel for ppl just passing by to drop the worst 40k or fantasy takes ever, the ghoul cave

[green loom]

True!

[echo vault]

I could probably kill a crypt ghoul ez they're just like humans who eat corpses

[queen laurel]

The orcs
Oh wait
"Orruks"
I don't even care anymore i will just call them orcs i'm not going to explain any anything because i'm pretty sure you can tell why i like them

[celest dome]

I quite like the Skullgrinders

[acoustic rock]

fantasy chaos always looks cooler than 40k chaos imo

[green loom]

Joebadon vs Chadchaon

[shadow plover]

both have their positives, I like the more mutation heavy side of 40k and can't go wrong with old space marine armour but fantasy has very cool armours like the new chosen are absolutely stellar minis

so good

[acoustic rock]

Chaos space marines need to take on more of this look imo

Enough looking like mean spikey guys, have them actually look like some hellforged warriors of hell

and hellfire

[trail stone]

My friend and I had a fun little conversation about Tyranids vs Flood, and one question popped up in my mind. Since Tyranids adapts to poison and so on, how well would they adapt to the Floods spores?

Since the Flood could only be stopped by weapons that worked the same way Necrons gauss weaponry does, so the question is, to what level does the Tyranids digestive pools break down stuff?

Cause the spores have survived stuff that's not "tearing molecules piece by piece".

Tldr : Can Tyranids adapt to the Floods invasive spores?

[shadow plover]

maybe, iirc there has been a mention of tyranid and ork cells fighting each others so could probably work the same way idk

[celest dome]

It would be a statle mate, but from the moment that the Flood can infect a Tyranid Synapse it's basically done for the Tyranid, and the whole world

[shadow plover]

there could be a biological change in the nids that will repel a flood infection for example I guess

immunity of sorts

[crimson kayak]

As cacti said if a synapse creature gets infected it's over as the flood would learn how to use the synapse connection and control lesser nids

Especially worse if it happens with one of the bigger ones like Norns

[queen laurel]

and if they happen to come by the other biological races and learns of knowledge about tyranids they are even more fucked

[brittle minnow]

wonder what it fells like to get slapd by an ogryn ?

[terse flume]

i imagine you could recreate if you ever pissed off an elephant into stepping on you

probably not a great time

[brittle minnow]

i thout it whold by like bing slapd by a giant bodybuilder with no remors

[terse flume]

well they're like, from very far above average to superhumanly strong, and usually are either lacking the intelligence to or are enraged/single minded enough to not care to hold back

they non-figuratively tear people apart

so i'm thinking like, being hit by a fire hydrant that has flown off the back of the truck on a highway

[brittle minnow]

well i think ogryns boneheads will mack great body gurds for inqisetors

[celest dome]

They do, though usually Inquisitors are able to get other things that are somewhat better, like Crusaders

[arctic talon]

Ogryns are common as inquisitorial henchmen

[brittle minnow]

but think massive bodygurds and stupid enoth not to ask qustions and loyel enoth that all you need a liyel gurde for life is just seying nice things

[celest dome]

Commissar are often with Ogryn Bodyguards

[terse flume]

they're gigantic, prone to violence, fanatically loyal, will happily take small arms fire for you and will do what they are told without question. there's a reason they're one of like three abhumans tolerated mostly in the imperium, they're really useful

[brittle minnow]

wonder why there arnt any ratling in the game we can play as

[storm jungle]

because making a character like that from the ground-up is easier said than done.

Like, you know, most game development.

[storm jungle]

Also gonna be copying this to describe Turkish people 🇹🇷

[terse flume]

lol

[crimson kayak]

Have fun not being able to shoot through any cover

[queen laurel]

I'm pretty sure your head would be sent flying and would set a new world record

[storm jungle]

Totally lore accurate footage:

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914161923334214/1123609358052376706/yes.gif

[green loom]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/326859548184936448/1136349720311238677/trim.B4C2DF0B-8C50-41DB-B0CE-69F5780E7AAE.mov

[queen laurel]

Oh yeah dilara i have a question

Orcs from warhammer fantasy were smaller than that of 40k right

[celest dome]

They are the size of normal human iirc, so like Ork Boys ?

[storm jungle]

Uhh honestly no it varies

They are more or less the same as 40k orks

[queen laurel]

So there have been war bosses the size of ogres in fantasy?

Well that's something you do not want to see as a medieval peasant

[storm jungle]

Yeah fantasy orks are as horrifying as 40k orks

They are more or less just 40k orks without guns

[queen laurel]

When you get sent in the front lines and you see a giant orc missing an eye and he has a giant axe

[storm jungle]

[queen laurel]

Speaking of warhammer fantasy in a head-on fist fight who would win, an ogre or an ogryn?

Just head on brawl

[storm jungle]

Uhhh

very hard to guess

Ogryns got muscle

[celest dome]

Well stat wise I'd say they are about equal

[storm jungle]

Ogres got muscle AND belly-power

[celest dome]

But Ogre are more martial trained and have the blessing of the Maw

[storm jungle]

Yeah this is a good point

[celest dome]

So in the end I'd give it to the Ogre most of the point

[queen laurel]

That's a basic bull

The chances become even slimmer when it's an iron gut

[celest dome]

Bullgryn with the weapons ? Or with mundane weapons ?

[queen laurel]

No weapons at all just bare hands

[celest dome]

Then I'd still give it to the Iron gut over the Bullgryn

[queen laurel]

Yeah but i was thinking of the basic ones

A regular ogryn

Vs a bull

But i guess this would go to the bull right?

[celest dome]

Normal Ogryn I'd give it to the Bull 6-7 times out of 10
Bullgryn, I'd give 4-5 for the Bull

[queen laurel]

I see

[echo vault]

I wish they showed orcs in aos and fantasy using musket or blunderbuss weapons

A big tragedy

[echo vault]

They're the same I'd say the only main difference is armor and tactics

Plus it's charonites > bullgryns > regular

[celest dome]

I mean yea, a Charonite with it's upgrades and stuff would probably be able to stand toe to toe with a Iron Gut without problem

[echo vault]

I mean they turn space marines into crem brulee no problem in the 4th horus heresy black book

The only person that could easily kill them was HORUS HIMSELF

[celest dome]

Yeah, but Ogre are quite strong, like on their own they are able to destroy a Chaos Spawn without much problems

[echo vault]

An ogryn chaos spawn is a terror to behold

I'd still wager that a fantasy ogre can beat an ogryn solely because of more brain power

Plus ogre culture being the way it is

[celest dome]

More so the culture than brain power

like they aren't smarties either

[echo vault]

Yeah of course but ogryn are more chill ogres are MEAT MEAT MEAT

I just say brain power just because I think an ogre can count more than 3

There has to be some brain power in greasus or any ogre tyrants brain

Without augmentations that ogryn need

[crisp heath]

So why are people calling the Black Templars Heretics.

[green loom]

Who's saying that

Usually it's the other way around

Unless you mean the sizeable chunk of them that turned to Khorne not long ago

[crimson kayak]

It's the heretics calling black Templars people?

[green loom]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/326859548184936448/1099631166207827988/im.mp4

[celest dome]

No SM is people

[wicked vector]

Jerma my beloved

[storm jungle]

Because they suck

[green loom]

Fakt's

[crystal forum]

so apparently i burnt my sens of smell yesterday

i cant smell shit

literally

time to smoke and finish the soul drinker book finally

[nocturne crest]

I wonder if the Imperium would, like the US IRL, find the idea of the project Pluto missile too extreme.

[crimson kayak]

I mean that's a Thursday in the imperium

[crystal forum]

i love that two of the images used in the thumbnail are from literal analogies to fascism

[storm jungle]

LMAO

Holy shit this thumbnail alone is giving me a headache

and its 25 minutes

[near wasp]

Yikes

[echo vault]

My ultimate need, child soldiers

Also if jerma was a space marine what chapter would he be in

[crystal forum]

noise marines

[echo vault]

That's an occupation

[crystal forum]

then emp children

he's a sociopath, he'd fit right in

[echo vault]

I was thinking loyalist but I agree

I have an OC donut steel group of Marines that are from emp children but aren't chaos or strictly loyalist, more like mercenaries scattered across the galaxy loosely and they'd have non chaosy sound weapons and noise marines

So I can insert jerma into my epic oc donut steal lore

[crisp heath]

So I looked it up apparenlty the Black tempars killed a bunch of Primarus space marines.

[storm jungle]

No they just fell on a few bolter shells

it was an accident on the serfs behalf

[crisp heath]

Well It only a small extrmeist group and not every BT on the ship agrreed and some even tired to defend the Pirmairs OFC the exitimsits won but they soon ended up being borded by a group of World Bearrers in a fight that wiped out both the WBs and the remaining BTs.

[storm jungle]

They also killed the Custodian escort that was with the Primaris marines

because BT are kinda braindead

it was a pretty funny incident though, especially knowing Helbrecht himself was very much fine with Primaris marines, I guess this particular Crusade group of BTs was just a bit too late on the message

[crisp heath]

Well again it was not all BTs just some extimists nuts.

Also this.

[storm jungle]

I mean

all BTs are extremist nuts, their entire joke is that they are a parody of european crusaders who are massively racist and want to kill everyone.

[crisp heath]

Yea but LBTH the Mairnes Maleovlent are worse.

[storm jungle]

Ehhhh no

BT are much worse and got more numbers to prove it.

Marines Malevolent are just assholes.

[crisp heath]

Well moslty the BTS hatred is directed at the Empeors Children.

Somthing about that traitor legion really rustles their jimmies.

[storm jungle]

BT hate mutants, aliens and any human that goes against the Imperium more or less.

Actually they hate most mortal Imperials too lol

A good half of the Helsreach book has the main BT character Grimaldus constanty insult and think lowly of the guardsman accompaying them in the defense of the hive against the orks

[crisp heath]

I wonder what they think about Kreigers.

[storm jungle]

Nothing, they are another legion of mortals at the end to them.

they don't really care about anyone as long as you just do your job for the most part.

[crisp heath]

Also this guy shoiuld be made canon he is a total badass.

[fleet light]

The Gothic War still happened, but obviously the second game can't be canon

[storm jungle]

Its canon until you start the story properly

after anything Spire does it kinda goes off the rails

[crisp heath]

Well maybe not exactly but I could totally see Spire emrging from the warp aftrer the fall of Cadiaa rally the scattered imperial fleets and hold the line long enough for grind the Black Cursade for as Hailt allowing Bobby G to launch his own Crusade.

[storm jungle]

Yeah more or less that would be pretty close

[crisp heath]

Plus with Yarrick gon the Imperium needs more non Space Marine heroes.

And this guy literal;ly has everyoine set up for him.

[storm jungle]

Yarrick is not really dead

Hes probably just gonna get a miniature update at some point this year

His entire death report is very propaganda-coded too since we got no idea what even "killed" him.

[crisp heath]

Didnt they confirm it was Angron?

[storm jungle]

No lol

that was just people doing dumb memes for it

[crisp heath]

And probally he will eviehr come back as a living saint or because orks belive he cant be killed so Wagggh BS.

[storm jungle]

Thats also not a real thing

Yarrick is just a good commissar and a fighter

people just play it up for again, memes

He'll just get a mini-update at some point this year probably and have another showdown with Ghaz on Armageddon as a side content for this edition

[crisp heath]

Well Yarrick did have an ork warboss mech arm installed and don't ork tech only works becauyse orks belive it works.

[tepid peak]

Partially correct. There needs to be some basic functionality (can't just shake a bucket of bolts and call it a landmine). It works better when Orks believe it should work.

[crisp heath]

Yet they used a drawing of an engine to power a stolen leman russ tank.

[tepid peak]

Source on that?

[storm jungle]

In the Yarrick books

which are like ANCIENT at this point

they just repurpose it with admech help present on Armageddon to make it work.

It has nothing to do with ork waagh power, at the end of the day its just a giant power-claw.

[tepid peak]

I mean the engine. Is that an actual thing from a black library novel?

[storm jungle]

No lol

Ork tech is usually entirely functional to a point, the Waaagh power-field works more as a psychic duct-tape

People just assume if orks believe hard enough they can make a wooden stick fire bullets which is meme lore.

[tepid peak]

Yup.

[storm jungle]

Yeah like its the entire point why they have, you know

Mechanics who are orks.

[crisp heath]

Yet painting somthning red makes it go faster.

[storm jungle]

It doesn't.

That's also meme-lore

orks believe that it does, when in reality its not the case at all

[crisp heath]

So basically the more insane feats of Waggh energy is in the same bin as Gulliman and Yrvarines romance, and Sly Marbro.

[storm jungle]

Yeah those are all stupid memes lol

But to expand on the ork color thing a bit, These are things that Orks genuinely do believe. Whether or that belief has any effect is hard to say.

Do red trukks go faster because they’re red, or do Orks paint fast trukks red because they’re fast? Or as an even better example, are Evil Sunz vehicles fast because they’re red, or are they fast because Evil Sunz are better drivers and/or even more insane than the average Ork?

For all the talk of the Ork gestalt that is so common in the community it is incredibly rarely mentioned in lore at all, let alone described as being responsible for the physics defying feats some people attribute to it.

[crisp heath]

Yea the same people who ship Gullimran and Yrvraine are the same people who think Inquiistor Greyfax is having a lesbiant romeon and Julleit relationship with a Living Saint.

[storm jungle]

Thats honestly more plausible than anything with Guilliman and Yvraine is all ill say

Mostly because they spend an entire audio-drama being sarcastic, snarky and jokey with each other.

Guilliman and Yvraine meanwhile talked twice in lore and never again.

[tepid peak]

It gets referenced in the 4th edition codex for Red Paint Job (a vehicle upgrade) with the fluff text: "Orks believe that a vehicle that has been painted red can outstrip a similar vehicle that isn't. As odd as it may seem, they are quite right"

However it's just as likely that the Orks either painted an already fast vehicle red because of this belief, or that a red vehicle will be upgraded alongside the red paint so that it does go quicker; better fuel, more turbos, stronger engine, more gears, etc.

[storm jungle]

Its that and also this goes way back where a techpriest analyzing thing effect cites the same thing.

The thing people forget when citing these references to support the idea that Ork technology works "because of magic"...

Is that Imperial Techpriests literally pray to their machines to make them work.

The Imperium thinks their own technology relies on magic. Of course they think that Ork technology relies on magic.

Its very much a rabbit hole subject

[crisp heath]

I am curious how the whole LGBT+ thing si handled within the 40K I mean I am sure the servants of Slaneesh are like "Whatever floats your boat" but what about the ohter groups.

[storm jungle]

Slaanesh has nothing to do with being gay, they just care about skinning you alive to get a new excess off their list.

[tepid peak]

That was a helluva subject shift.

[storm jungle]

Yeah I was gonna say lol

[tepid peak]

I also dug up a thing about that recently. Lemme find the thing.

[crisp heath]

Not trying to be offesnive I was just curious since we were talking about LGBT+

[storm jungle]

but basically theres same-sex relationships in some of the books but its never really a subject thats touched upon because BL writers usually focus on plot more than relationships.

[crisp heath]

And I like that I have nothing wrong with LGBT+ or progressive stuff in wiritng as long as its does not criumvent or deraitl the story.

[storm jungle]

Yeah thats what i was getting at its never really a focal point in any book, its just off-handedly mentioned before moving on.

Its usually a side-character who usually ends up being in a relationship like that thoguh and never really the protagonists.

but its here and there, you won't see it that much.

[crisp heath]

Then again many of the protags don't engeage in romance in general at least in 40K.

[frosty stag]

What kind of video games exist in 40k

Is nintendo still around?

[storm jungle]

Uhhh

the primarchs actually play a VR game at one point

they also say that their human ancestors must have been addicted to these things and forgot to touch grass

[crisp heath]

I doubt Nintendo exists in the 40K universe and apparenlty neither is PETA.

[frosty stag]

Im literally crying in the bathroom at work rn cant be me

[storm jungle]

LMAO

mood

[storm jungle]

Not all imperial animals are badly modified like that but yeah its close lol

[tepid peak]

Only available to the wealthy, and will basically be propaganda "The Imperium is so great." There's even some kind of advanced Rock-em-sock-em robot toys for rich kids mentioned in one book (name escapes me) but it also describes them as being weighted so that the Space Marine of the Ork-Marine bots will usually always win if controlled by opponents of comparable skill, as anything else would be bad for a good Imperial child's education.

[storm jungle]

Yeah this

Its very much... uh

80's level of video games?

Simple stuff with simple "gameplay"

[frosty stag]

Are xenons just commies?

[storm jungle]

No they are just aliens.

[frosty stag]

Is this the cold war all over again

[storm jungle]

No its WW1 and 2

just more racism

[tepid peak]

I never felt like a noble gas could have a political leaning.

[frosty stag]

Ah cool

[storm jungle]

yeah 40k never really had a cold war angle

it was always against fascism

and mocking real life governments

Its important to remember it was made by english people during the Thatcher administration lol

[tepid peak]

Aye. Orks are football hooligans.

[frosty stag]

The t’au really are just the only “good guys” in 40k huh

[storm jungle]

Uhh kinda more or less

[tepid peak]

they're the least evil, but still evil.

[storm jungle]

Tau have a hidden evil side but its basically just nowhere near as bad as the Imperium

[fleet light]

They're alright if you like being a smelly alien

[tepid peak]

Rigid caste system with no mobility across what you're born into.

[frosty stag]

Humans are the problem basically

[storm jungle]

^

[frosty stag]

And eldar

[storm jungle]

Eldar not that much

Eldar dont actively wage wars unless they have to

[frosty stag]

They created slaneesh

So bad

Nekrons are just eepy

[fleet light]

Unless you're Biel'tan

[storm jungle]

Yeah because Biel-Tan is based

[fleet light]

Yes

[tepid peak]

Aeldar don't want to wage war unless it can save a single Aeldari life a century or longer into the future, in which case they'll sacrifice entire planets' worth of non Aeldari lives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqcv3KJpTZE&pp=ygUidGhlIHdhcmhhbW1lciBmYWN0aW9ucyBhcmUgYWxsIGJhZA%3D%3D

[storm jungle]

Yeah basically thats their biggest "evil" side but when your enemy would do the same to you its kinda whatever.

[frosty stag]

Does the cult of mars have a problem with nekrons or do they like them

[crisp heath]

Though consideinf this takes place in necromunda cyberpunking the dog may acutally be the best thing for it as you can grantee probally going to live longer,.

[potent nymph]

Pretty sure I heard it mentioned before 4th ed. as well. like rogue trader or 1st (the only 2 I ever played). The lore I learned was that all orks have psychic energy. If they ALL believe something, it will affect something. So, if ALL orks believe that the vehicles on the battlefield that are red go fasta, then they will. Orks are very weird though. The fact they NEED to fight to stay alive and grow... their actions and spiritualism is literally linked directly to their physical being. This is why the bigger orks are in command. Not because they are stronger but because they have more experience and because they are older because they've survived more waaaargh! ...I digressed. Sorry.

[storm jungle]

Very much so

Nah these are all fair points

Ork lore suffers from people just kinda memeing on it and theories turning into actual "lore" in peoples heads.

Its a bad case of misinformation.

[fleet light]

Aliens are bad

[frosty stag]

Fair enough

[storm jungle]

Admech fears the necrons but also goes "pog" at their technology

[crisp heath]

I mean Cyber Mastuff have basiclaly existed since roman times.

[frosty stag]

Nekron tech seems dope as shit ngl

[tepid peak]

It isn't helped by GW's habit of changing aspects of lore either slightly or greatly over the editions, with some codices even seeing lore removed.

[potent nymph]

All tau wanted to do was to join up for the greater good though. Eldar are on the back foot and fighting defensively too.

[storm jungle]

^ This too lol

[tepid peak]

T'au want to make the Galaxy T'au.

[storm jungle]

Also yeah if you lived like the eldar did in a literal paradise you wouldnt give a shit about humans dying either

[tepid peak]

Join the Greater Good or be swept aside by it.

[storm jungle]

I mean not like the Imperium cares either but still

[potent nymph]

aaah

well, we can't have that

fetch the smurfs

[storm jungle]

Necron tech is basically so advanced that it seems like magic to us so yes lol

[crisp heath]

Laugh all you want but Good War Houdns take time to grwo and train so putting some learther or chainmail armor on them to they survive a little longer in battle does help your investment.

[storm jungle]

Also they are good boys

https://tenor.com/view/good-boi-dog-doggy-doggo-good-boy-gif-21665197

[crisp heath]

And it allows the really tough ones and good fighters to survive long enough to breed and pass on their genes.

[storm jungle]

that and dog armor is cool

[potent nymph]

Mastiffs are terrible warhounds

[fleet light]

What if it is a robo mastiff

[crisp heath]

Your thinking of modern mastiffs.

[potent nymph]

Historically, the most successful warhounds (at least in the UK) was the great dane.

It used to jump over the line and attack from behind. It's the whole legend of having a "black dog" on your shoulder to describe depression etc

Whenever anyone uses the term "black dog" etc... that's generally what it's a reference to.

[crisp heath]

Really I have a friend who owns 3 and the only danger is being sat on because they think they are smaller than they are.

[potent nymph]

Well... when the danes were invading the UK, it was a very different story

breeds change over time.

[tepid peak]

Big difference between training needs from then to now.

[potent nymph]

and breeding as well.

My family spent about 20 years breeding king charles cavaliers

[crisp heath]

Thats what I am saying the Great danes back then like the Mastifs back then were a lot diff than their modern counterpary.

[potent nymph]

We managed to breed out several common genetic flaws, only to find that the Dogs were living longer and dying of other common things instead.

[queen laurel]

And there it goes my belief shattered again

[crisp heath]

Exactly breeding plays a big part that is why I can never turst these guys.

[potent nymph]

Yeah, it's like modern Dogs now. There IS such a thing as a bad dog. A Dog bread for fighting (when you take 2 violent fighting dogs and breed them together) you're not going to get a nice lap dog.

Looks can be decieving though. IF a dog comes from a long line of placid, friendly dogs but looks like an absolute unit, it could very well be a great family pet.

There are however always going to be common character traits within the breed that you simply can't get rid of.

Just like ogryns

[crisp heath]

Yes training is part of it but certain breeds to have a prtencity for violence.

[potent nymph]

Well... the siberian fox experiment proved that looks and behavior correlate. They chose which ones bread based on their agreeableness towards humans and after X generations found that they actually looked different.

Same with wolves and dogs

Ogryns and hoomans

[crisp heath]

Also

Are these things memes as well.

[potent nymph]

Squats

HAHAHAAHA

[tepid peak]

No, felinids are a real abhuman branch. But I don't think they run around acting like domesticated cats.

[crisp heath]

So anime catgirls are a thing in 40k ......

[queen laurel]

Also there one of those things in that if i'm pretty sure is just there

[storm jungle]

We got no idea what they look like

Felinids are mentioned uhh... i think 3 times in lore

[queen laurel]

For all you know they could be like khajit

[storm jungle]

Yeah that lol

we literaly dont know how they appear

[potent nymph]

I don't think that picture is realistic at all

They would be purged

[storm jungle]

Lmao

[potent nymph]

I Identify as an inquisitor

[crisp heath]

So they could look like this.

[storm jungle]

Yeah maybe that

[queen laurel]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

their only mention has been in text form

the latest i want to say was... 3 years ago?

from Xenologis book

[potent nymph]

They wouldn't serve the imperium though, because cats are selfish and don't care about humans. Only that humans can open packets of food.

[storm jungle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/291930196024754176/1131483423349944340/F1cpMmmagAAcuWK.jpg?width=477&height=462

[potent nymph]

Maybe as mercenaries but the imperium (to my knowlege) doesn't employ mercs or outsiders unless rougue traders.

[storm jungle]

Also yeah the wider Imperium doesnt

[potent nymph]

This guy knows it

[storm jungle]

nobles, highborn, governors and the such however?

thats when its sussy

some mfers will outright hire orks

then wonder why the fuck after their arrangement was done now they are bombing their planet

TRULY a mystery

[queen laurel]

And Orks hire ogryns

[storm jungle]

[potent nymph]

And wonder why orks keep on appearing everywhere, then they realize that their planet has contracted the ork fungus.

[crisp heath]

I heard somewhere that the Blood Ravens stole Bjorn the Venerable Dreadnaught.

[storm jungle]

Yeah no thats a meme

[queen laurel]

That is also why hiring them as members of your rogue trader group

[storm jungle]

if they did that their entire chapter would get annihilated by the Space Wolves lol

[queen laurel]

Ends very badly

Unless you have some kind of cream designed to get rid of the spores

They will literally just keep throwing around that shit

[crisp heath]

Ah so the Blood Ravens stealing form other chapters is a meme.

[storm jungle]

Uhh okay so let me explain

that meme comes from Dawn of War 2

in that game you get random item drops between each mission

with VERY suspicious origins

down to fucking high tier imperial items and "generously donated" ones.

It never outright says they are stolen but the fact that you think they are is what makes it funny, so thats where the meme spawned from

[queen laurel]

Some of them have been said to literally have been forge a millennium ago or some shit

[storm jungle]

Yeah and i think one was a fucking primarch weapon

Ferrus Manus/Perturabo's hammer Forgebreaker or a suit of Custodian armour. A few of them are even explicitly stated to be looted, like the Aegis armour which was taken from the corpse of an allied Grey Knight which died during Dark Crusade.

[potent nymph]

Speaking of dreadnoughts

[storm jungle]

least violent male fantasy

[queen laurel]

Not just the blood ravens to literally a lot of the factions in the game get amazing weaponry that are basically relics to them

[storm jungle]

Yep lol

like Marines never steal anything

unless they are EXTREMELY desperate

[potent nymph]

Inquisitor Grigori "The Mad Monk"

[crisp heath]

So this rivalry is also a meme.

[storm jungle]

for example the Marines Malevolent almost has half the Imperial institutes hate them so they gotta resort to stealing Imperial wargear in campaigns like thieves

[storm jungle]

Entirely yes lol

Blood Ravens are really not that prominent in lore

BUT

[tepid peak]

Took some digging; clipped from Liber Xenologus.

[storm jungle]

Trazyn himself the necron actually steals a lot of shit

like to meme levels

that is real

[storm jungle]

Also yep there it is

thats their sole mention in the book

[tepid peak]

The other mention is in the 6th ed rulebook, which I have a copy of just need to dig it out.

[queen laurel]

Finally the throne of judgment got an upgrade

[tepid peak]

Neither of them have images.

[storm jungle]

Yeah its all text like i said

they get a maximum of 3 mentions in lore

I THINK the previous older 2 are literally just

"Yes felinids exist."

"They are feline abhumans."

[tepid peak]

Indeed.

[storm jungle]

and nothing beyond that

[crisp heath]

Is this canon https://warhammer40kfanon.fandom.com/wiki/Orkperium?

[potent nymph]

WORK
OF
CHADNESS

[tepid peak]

I doubt GW will produce a headswap sprue for them, either, considering the cost of machining the new clamshell.

[storm jungle]

Okay so thats the "fanon" wiki

[crisp heath]

I just saw the fanon part...

[storm jungle]

Lmao yep

the actual wiki has uhh

guilliman fighting a lord of change in the background

[potent nymph]

Last thing I painted

[crisp heath]

I knot there is an Ork Empire the Ork Empire of Octarius Its the also the reason why the Nids have not nomed everything up.

[queen laurel]

I will give the wiki some points at times because, there are information in the wiki that you really can't find for the lexicanum

[storm jungle]

Yeah the wiki copy pastes everything from a book word by word

[queen laurel]

Bro i can't see shit

[storm jungle]

its why i recommend it if you just want to read the thing

[queen laurel]

What did you paint

[potent nymph]

First mini in about 15 years

[fleet light]

... a base?

[potent nymph]

developed a tremor since

[queen laurel]

My brother in gork it's an ork promoting peace

[potent nymph]

It has a base. It's not a gaming piece. It was a valentines day present for my GF

[crisp heath]

I remeberr hearing somewhere that the Imperium found a way to take out large groups of orks by using sisters of silence to drain all the waggh energy from a single ork then dropping that drained ork into a Waggh causing a volitile feedback loop.

[potent nymph]

oh and PURPLE ORKS ARE LORE FRIENDLY

[queen laurel]

Well if purple orks did exist it would only allow them to becomes better at sneaking not literally turn them invisible

[potent nymph]

yup

he has go fasta pants

[crystal forum]

i only see floating clothes

[green loom]

Guilliman and Yvraine barely interact at all, Greyfax and Celestine have a full audiobook where the author throws in random hints towards it
It's not canon by any means but it has far more grounds than 99% of meme lore, and Grimdankers despise the idea

[celest dome]

Geryfax with Celestine is not even that much of a reach tbh, while Guilli and Yvraine is really just Grimdank running with a small passage

[green loom]

I've got bad news for you

[green loom]

Aside from Greyfax hating Celestine and Celly being basically the antithesis to all her beliefs
But I like it, it's cute

[crisp heath]

Oh BTW Dark Elder and the Emperors Children space marines are scared of these guys.

[queen laurel]

ah my favorite chapter the Carcharodons

[storm jungle]

Dark Eldar and the Emperor's Children aren't scared of them

they are just another loyalist chapter among many at that point

[crisp heath]

I am quoting this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUMmIcOLVR4

And they supposdly did the same thing to an member of the Emperor's Children in Hammer & Bolter

[storm jungle]

Thats just 1 dark eldar

And they caught them by an ambush

and that book is very bad lol

5 Space Sharks take on an entire Dark Eldar kabal which is basically pure fantasy and impossible

[crisp heath]

Had they been any chapter but Carcharodons I would agree.

[queen laurel]

harlequin custodes beast book moment

[storm jungle]

No loll

kabalites literally are equipped with space marine killing weapons

they literally just walk through their compound and kill like 50 of them, dark eldar are not that stupid

Oh yeah they also have a mother and autistic child with them which is uh... long story i guess

[rose thorn]

🍿

[queen laurel]

oh yeah dilara this is me every time you say the most up-to-date ork lore that overwrites my current memory

[storm jungle]

accurate

[storm jungle]

Basically

they do the hollywood trope of

Autistic person can see hidden pattersn and understand alien languages

[rose thorn]

YWAH FUCKIN

[storm jungle]

And the kid leads them through hidden portal gates and shit?

[rose thorn]

That movie uh

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[rose thorn]

Where some lady used an apple to figure out an entire alien language

[storm jungle]

Honestly The Predator is the most infamous one with this trope but i now other films have done it too.

[rose thorn]

The good translator

[crisp heath]

As an autisitic person myself while I agree we can figure some logical problems by ourselves better than other people and we tend to spot things others don't being able to deshiper an alien language with no refernce or codex it too out there.

Ironicly these are more represntive of your avergae high fucntioning autisitc person anti social reclusive yet hyper intelegent.

[storm jungle]

Jokaero are great

the most underrated aliens in the setting

[crisp heath]

Yea they are one of the few aliens the imperium sort of respects.

[storm jungle]

Its mostly because they are actually a threat

you dont fuck with em unless you want a mini-nuke thrown at your face

[green loom]

Ook!

Charcharadons are pretty mid

Majorly propped up by Tyberos memes

[crisp heath]

Also 9/10 once they finish that mini nuke they will toss it in a pile of finsihed inventions for any enterprising tech priest to pick up and use.

[storm jungle]

this guy gets it

[crisp heath]

The issue is they are just as likely to make an eletronic backscratcher or a machine that turns itself off rather than a mininuke or somthing that can purge chaos corruption in an 200 mile radius.

[queen laurel]

yeah they have one of those basic factions that are being carried by a character like the goffz with ghaz

and to be fair i much prefer the black dragons

[crisp heath]

Also I dont understand Kaldor Draigo, I mean lorewise he is the Doomguy of the 40K universe yet people claims he is the TF2 Hoovy giving sandviches to random people.

[queen laurel]

I'm pretty sure it's one of those cases of it's done by the memes

[frosty stag]

Who’s more advanced with technology the silly monkey or the t’au

[celest dome]

Jokaero

No contest

[storm jungle]

^

Tau are advanced but Jokaero were literally engineered to be gigachad inventors

https://tenor.com/view/monke-gif-21149625

[celest dome]

Necron to Jokaero i think would be more difficult to decide

[storm jungle]

Necrons deffo

their tech is so advanced its basically magic to us lol

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-dance-skeletons-dancing-cool-gif-12587740

[crisp heath]

I would youse This instead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA7InlgcxbU

Also @storm jungle WHat are your thoughts on this post "Also I dont understand Kaldor Draigo, I mean lorewise he is the Doomguy of the 40K universe yet people claims he is the TF2 Hoovy giving sandviches to random people."

[storm jungle]

Basically

Draigo suffers from the fact that he was written as basically a Mary Sue character, if you read his lexicanum page you'll see why

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Kaldor_Draigo

The latter part is because of a fan animation series called If the Emperor had a Text-to-Speech Device which basically made him a comedic relief / meme dude for jokes that can mostly do anything like a cartoon character

[near wasp]

My only exposure to kaldor is choasgate

[storm jungle]

Hes portrayed pretty well there tbh

[queen laurel]

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic is honestly prettymuch common in 40k

[storm jungle]

Kind of

Necrons are a league of their own

they are one of the few factions where that phrase also gets used.

[queen laurel]

If you can make a device that literally alters the solar system, blades that vibrate in and out of dimensions, and basic infantry guns with the power to tear apart tanks and fortifications no problem, yeah you are definitely something

[storm jungle]

Pretty much.

Crypteks are also broken af

mfers can turn you into gold just by waving their hand

[queen laurel]

Ah yes alchemy

[storm jungle]

in SPAAAACE

[queen laurel]

But I'm going to be honest, necron weapons might be op, but if you want fun factor look no further than ork weapons

[storm jungle]

I mean to be fair

their basic trooper weapons can melt tanks

https://tenor.com/view/necrons-warhammer-gauss-gif-24598584

[queen laurel]

Yeah, but stabbing someone and making them teleport because you stabbed them is a funny image

[storm jungle]

also true

[queen laurel]

Zzap knife is fun

Also one of their guns is literally called the bubble chucka

It fires explosive energy bubbles

That can be rapid fired or blast a tank

[storm jungle]

yee yee ass overwatch weapons

[queen laurel]

One of their anti air weapons is a giant magnet with a magnetic pull so strong it literally pulls aircraft out of the air

That shit is hilarious

[storm jungle]

lmao god

basically Rated-R Tom and Jerry

[queen laurel]

Yes, shokk attack gun also falls in that category i think

[storm jungle]

[echo vault]

Shit like this is why I can't be mad at stuff like desolators because I bet cawl wanted to channel some ork power of imagination stuff

[queen laurel]

Bro sometimes he takes way too much inspiration

[echo vault]

I wanna see hammer and bolter do like white scars chogoris drift

Like I want the movie redline with white scars

I wanna see grimdark and also badass rogue trader boltgun as stuff

[storm jungle]

surprisingly Hammer & Bolter has explored a lot of stuff

rogue traders has not been one of them yet

[rose thorn]

besides the first epiosde

wait

no that was an inquisitor

and the rogue trader that died liek 5 seconds in

[storm jungle]

nah that wasnt a rogue trader

that was another Inquisitor

[rose thorn]

oh

[storm jungle]

he just chose to dress like a PIMP

[rose thorn]

LMAO

with tehf ucking eldar in his conclave?

adnm the random ass inforcer lmao

encofrcer*

spelling

[storm jungle]

there they are

[rose thorn]

HUH

built different IG

[storm jungle]

Also the enforcer etc are his retinue members

[rose thorn]

RETINUE thank you

[storm jungle]

YEEE

[rose thorn]

i did find it weird that a roguetrader would have a death cult member in it

[storm jungle]

lady ❤️

[rose thorn]

FRRR

[storm jungle]

Lmao i think you are uh

mixing up the plot twist callidus

https://tenor.com/view/berleezy-iberleezy-belin-edmond-she-kinda-bad-she-kinda-bad-tho-gif-19486304

[rose thorn]

FR

[celest dome]

Death Cult assassin could be attached to a Rogue Trader

[rose thorn]

beisdes it making uh, the lore for uh the fucking cards kinda werid

[storm jungle]

Yeah but they are basically just tarots

so its w/e

[rose thorn]

but only trained pykers can use it supposedly, i guess the callidus was a pyker

[storm jungle]

wait is that a thing?

[rose thorn]

or she just,

yeah

[storm jungle]

I dont know my tarot that much

[rose thorn]

the tarot cards are made ofa liquid crystal that connects the user to the emperor for like 2 miliseconds

to read fortunes

[storm jungle]

damn i never knew that, Emperors Tarot as a lorepoint never really interested me lmao

[rose thorn]

i like the idea that you speak to god through vage messages

but also its OLLDLDDD lore

[celest dome]

Divination Psyker do use the Tarot, but non Psyker also use them, just like how there are people whoread tarot

[storm jungle]

Yeha i was gonna say

with the Callidus in the episode its more uh

she knew the vindicare was the backup plan if she fucked up

so she was just trolling the Inquisitor lmao

like talking about death and arrogance and shit

[rose thorn]

oh my bad i got confsued

[storm jungle]

When you know the basics of tarot reading thats more or less what she did

Yeee all good

it is a bit random

[rose thorn]

i thought this mean only sad who ever can specalize in it

specalize

[storm jungle]

Yeah exactly

[rose thorn]

pecialilize

spelling iis hard

[storm jungle]

mood

thank god discord auto-correct exists

[rose thorn]

fr

[storm jungle]

Also the whole shot for both of their retinues

Its uh... about as basic as you can get

[rose thorn]

WAITA S ECOND HE HAD THE ELDAR

[storm jungle]

Ye

who literally has no speaking lines

and just instantly dies

so why even have him around

[rose thorn]

wasnt the main guy supposed to be uh, ordo malidictus?

hereticus?

sometjing like that

[storm jungle]

I... cant remember

hes not xenos thats for sure

[rose thorn]

yeah lol

[near wasp]

Youd think an eldar would have to be constantly reminded to shut up

[storm jungle]

they are smarter than to speak up randomly so 👀

[rose thorn]

i remember in the heretic saint book the inquistior uhh, pyker lady, had to convince the inquisitor not to come iwht her to see yvraine because not only he was ordo xenos

[green loom]

More inquisitor inspiration

[rose thorn]

but also his clothes literally had xenos skulls stapled to it

incluidng eldar skulls

just

attacched to him

[storm jungle]

fucking lmao

[green loom]

Yvraine might have looked at him and went

"Oh hey good idea"

[rose thorn]

lmao yeah

[green loom]

Before stapling the skulls of all the eldar she's gotten killed on her dress

[rose thorn]

also apparently heretic saint had a vision of 'nothingness' aka prob tyrnaids and told yvraine, and this is the first time yvraine has seen something liek that

and yvraine was like

'well when the time comes i will help you and your imperium again'

and heretic saint lady thogutht the imperium was dead

[crimson kayak]

Skaven scion spotted

[storm jungle]

beaky ass

[green loom]

The True Felenidscion

[rose thorn]

adn there was a 2 paragraphs summarizing the fucking gulliman 4ok books

dark imperium

if i remmeber correctly

[crimson kayak]

Space marine levels of bulk

[rose thorn]

im weak for beak helmets

whch i literally fucking laughed

she dropped 5 bombshells in a row on her and acts like nothing

and then disappears from the book (and lore)

[green loom]

Aight I'm gonna draw an inquisitor and his retinue tomorrow

Who wants to give me retinue ideas?

[rose thorn]

so, the ynnari said they are gonan help with the nids

so uh, wjne is that gonna happen

[storm jungle]

spoilers

never

[storm jungle]

Honestly sky is the limit

[rose thorn]

a kroot medic

[green loom]

This is an offer to draw characters

[storm jungle]

shut up nerd

[green loom]

I'm going to add uhhh

Like a guard guy and maybe one of those voidsmen from the RT set

Redesigned ofc

[near wasp]

Wow im just cpnfronted with the fact ive never made a 40k character

[rose thorn]

i want a rogue trader army so bad, i dont care if its a bad 40k version of the outcast necromunda gang

[storm jungle]

You should! Its fun!

I got tons lol

[rose thorn]

which otcastsa rae already bad

[storm jungle]

tho Dilara is my main one

[near wasp]

Dilara looks dope

[crisp heath]

It should look like he walked into a trap house and drafted 4 of the most debilitated crackheads he could find into the army

[rose thorn]

i dont have a 40k character besides like, flavor characters for hq models

[storm jungle]

Hired Gun for my friend's Rogue Trader

💵

[rose thorn]

im stuck thinkin about the water guild in necromunda

[storm jungle]

Water Guilders are fucking COOL

[storm jungle]

all 3 of them

[crisp heath]

Speaking of Rogue Trader and Inquistors

[rose thorn]

I KNOW

and the bounty hunter

AAAA I love them i need more info on them

[crisp heath]

Does anyone know if there will be more origins in the final release of Rogue Trader, or if it's just going to be the 3 they teased already?

or I guess the 3 in the beta

[storm jungle]

wish i could say

i skipped the beta for the favor of the main game release

[crisp heath]

I watched the first 30 minutes on Youtube but besides that I want to go in raw

[rose thorn]

imma i know ill regret not buying the beta

[near wasp]

Welp guess inbetween all my other rps im gonna be writing a 40k oc. Just to say i did

[rose thorn]

i might end up buying the statue on ebay

[crisp heath]

I was just hoping for an Inquistor origin for the aesthetic

[storm jungle]

If you got 70$ to spare I got an artist friend I could recommend for 40k character art

[crisp heath]

(what I really want is for Rimhammer 40k to update for 1.4 but I'll settle for Rogue Trader)

[near wasp]

Sadly i dont rn but send me there info in dms

[storm jungle]

Dunzo

[rose thorn]

i might get into necromudna, i really appreciate the aesthetic that liek is all completely differnet but looks like they all belong together

[storm jungle]

Oh man Necromunda lore is GIGA-BIG

you would love it

[rose thorn]

also they do the wasteland warfare style of 'all your models act on their own and are comepltely independent'

[storm jungle]

that too lol

[green loom]

I wanna make some

[storm jungle]

theres a ton of lore

[green loom]

necromundan rebels

[rose thorn]

yee i heard

[green loom]

Based on some WW2 hungary stuff

[rose thorn]

also thjey seem like they habe that 'are as hard to paint as you wanan amake it'

for osme dudes

you coudl jsut do the space marine treatmetn on these guys

if i see a gang cheap on amazon i might pick it up

but im also gonan buy the cities of sigmar army box so

[storm jungle]

yeah prob better to save up

[rose thorn]

a lgs is telling enforcers for 40 bucks so eh

[green loom]

Makes me think of Kultiras for some reason

[storm jungle]

its a mix of cossack/ottoman

[rose thorn]

SHE GOT THE DAGGER THING I LOVE

[storm jungle]

JAMBIYA MY BELOVED

[rose thorn]

FRRRR

[green loom]

Armour under cloth is peak design

[rose thorn]

i need to buy a bulk jambiya for tallarn or at least enough for killteam

[green loom]

Ok I've got an idea

A more tacticool version of the Arbites carapace

(they wear carapace right?)

[crisp heath]

Ok armor under cloth

I was just thinking yesterday about games that let you customize your characters clothing

Why do none of them go Base Layer (shirts, pants, dresses, etc) -> armor -> coats, capes, robes, etc

I understand why they wouldn't do it in 3d rpgs like skyrim or whatever, but I had this thought dressing my colonists in rimworld yesterday

[green loom]

WoW does shirt -> armor

And it has the potential to do the last one

But

It just doens't

[crisp heath]

I was mad because I have the royalty DLC and my royal is also my main melee fighter. Her royal rank made her want a cape, which means I had to take off her cataphract (end game) armor or she'd keep throwing tantrums and punch machinery with the force of an atomic bomb

Having to choose between a cape or armor also really just sucks from a character design point of view tbh. People wearing both, or armor + animal pelt, or something like that look dope as hell

[fleet light]

yeah like that horus fellow

[slow jacinth]

Quick I need help, I'm trying to throw a darktide reference at my DnD Dm, what's that spooky mystical place the characters talk about sometimes

[terse flume]

the warp?

[slow jacinth]

Is it the Archivum Sycorax? I know that's also the one map

[terse flume]

the citatrix maledictum?

[slow jacinth]

That thank you

[storm jungle]

its not a mysterious place FYI

its a massive warp scar in realspace that splits the galaxy in half

[slow jacinth]

Sure, what is mysterious is your lack of social understanding tho

[storm jungle]

Thanks I try!

[crimson kayak]

Spoiler, get mods

Source: literally just quality of life changes all around

[nocturne crest]

Has there ever been any lore that mentions the existence of traitor Arbites?

[storm jungle]

Not really. They can do but often arbites are some of the most loyal to the imperium due to their training and upbringing. I would argue they are more likely to fall to chaos then astartes, but a lot less likely compared to imperial guard for instance.

But chaos commissars exist so its not exactly impossible, just not very common.

[nocturne crest]

That makes sense.

What about admech or is turning renegade/traitor more due to xenos tech, like the necrons' gear?

[storm jungle]

Admech turn heretic aplenty

Theres various reasons for it but the most dominant one is just hating the dogma of the mechanicus which they are right to a point, because its very stupid with the "no invention" rule lol

The problem is they just go and turn to chaos and become even worse.

Actual "normal" hereteks that are non-chaos exist too but are much more rare.

[near wasp]

Yes, on holy terra there was a heretic who was an arbites marshall following the formation of the maladictum

But thats the only example i can think of off the top of my head

[queen laurel]

A combination of cape and armor is also literally the bread and butter of the tin tyrant villain archetype

[frosty stag]

Are squigs real or meme lore

[fleet light]

Squigs are real

[frosty stag]

I meant like the actual different versions oops

Rereading my question made me feel dumb ngl

[fleet light]

Hair squigs are real, orks don't grow hair

[frosty stag]

Damn

[queen laurel]

and also they are also the main source of fuel for ork vehicles

oil squigs make organic promethium

[fleet light]

Squigs and other orkoid fungi provide basically everything the orks need in any environment, which is perfect for bioengineered warriors that fight all across the galaxy

[queen laurel]

yeah and feral orks literally weaponize squigs to the point that they can match and even become a problem on the planet where there are people that have better equipment than them

i mean I wouldn't want to be in front of a charging Orkeosaurus

[crisp heath]

Literally Abbadon.

[crimson kayak]

Yes, squigs can basically be a anything

[green loom]

Yknow I wonder

Is there actually enough content on Vraks to make 43 videos on it

[storm jungle]

Yes

its 3 Imperial Armor books with

so much

logistics and filler content

but its well written

[nocturne crest]

How many books do you think could be made about the scouring or the Badab war?

[storm jungle]

Entirely as much as they can.

The Horus Heresy is a good display of it

[queen laurel]

Makes another book just to spite the fans

[crimson kayak]

Literally any big event in 40k can easily have as many books and stuff as HH

It's just that GW can't hold on a plot point for more than a few months these days before they must move toward a new event

[storm jungle]

Very much this

The Siege of Terra was literally like a 3-4 page battle.

They expanded it to almost 10 books now

If you give a writer some points to work with they can stretch the most basic story to entire sagas.

[dry epoch]

Man, I'd love to write Badab War stuff.

[crimson kayak]

The Tax War

[queen laurel]

Their ability to stretch stories is like me stretching for complaints it's f****** amazing

[nocturne crest]

Did they wrap up the war of the beast or is that still being written about?

[crimson kayak]

Wrapped in 2016

[queen laurel]

I'm pretty sure the stories finish because if one and i MEAN 1 beast is alive

The universe is going to be a lot more shitty

[dry epoch]

So many opportunities to write about the Amazing Adventures of Ol' Slobberchops (and Chums)

[nocturne crest]

I do wonder if they'll skip over Russ, Khan and Corax leaving the imperium in the books.

Then again, maybe they'll give them each a far-well story to their 30k setting which will then become the first part of a series where each missing Primarch returns to the setting.

[green loom]

I'm watching through Bricky's faction vids and I wonder if he had any prep/rehearsel or script ready

Because my god, he speaks like most 40k fans write

[queen laurel]

He sounds like he's just winging it

I mean the explanations are not bad but they are also not the most detailed

[green loom]

Just a funny observation

[storm jungle]

He basically shows no justice to any faction that isnt Imperium lmao

[queen laurel]

And you know the sad part is? I watch a lot of people react to warhammer factions and most of them watch him

I know i have a sad life but i feel even sad for the people who watch him

[storm jungle]

His ork video is a good example of that lol

[storm jungle]

Honestly bricky is not that bad

hes just a bit obnoxious and his content just spreads too much misinformation, and the moment you mention this its "Oh we arent trying to be lore accurate"

[queen laurel]

Oh no he's a good guy but his explanations are not always the best

[odd palm]

Wait people opt for bricky's over remleiz's overviews? O.o

[storm jungle]

I mean

40k fans

so

[odd palm]

[storm jungle]

Remleiz is also good but he does less lore content and more just "Heres events in lore, lets theorize"

[green loom]

Remleiz does theories

[storm jungle]

which is fine because its literally what his channel does

[green loom]

The lore ones are Arbitor Ian, Luetin, Baldermort etc. etc.

[brittle minnow]

i am wondering inqisetor Grendel is qurdenting remotrly the defence of Atoma Prime with his warbnd and the PDF right ?

[green loom]

He's technically head honcho on the planet yeah

[odd palm]

[queen laurel]

Oh yes speaking of lore, in aos how are ogors as a faction, are they still as good as the old world ones

[storm jungle]

Honestly literally the same

they eat

they fight

they enlist as mercs for anyone that pays them

their gigachad grindset has not been damaged

[green loom]

Except now there's some more flavours

[storm jungle]

^

the new cities of sigmar even has some ogre units

[queen laurel]

I guess the one that gets always followed by the blizzard is pretty neat

[green loom]

I see AoS Doomposters saying they got rid of XYZ from Fantasy

But the true red pill is that

They barely got rid of anything

[storm jungle]

Yeah there really isnt much changed

[brittle minnow]

becouse if there are demonhoust and beasts if nurgel how long before more demons of nurgel and the dafe gurde will show up ?

[queen laurel]

Orks still grow and fight
Ogres eat, it's just the naming conventions

And the more unrealistic setting

[green loom]

Technically we should be seeing lesser daemons

Death Guard won't show up cus it's not an astartes operation

[brittle minnow]

right like nurglings and plage berers

[green loom]

Ye

[brittle minnow]

but when demons start showing up the chaos space marins come to tack all the cradit , also its ether that or having a great unclan one on Atoma Prime

[green loom]

Fatshark have said they won't include marines so

[brittle minnow]

so wander when they will add nurgling

but there is likely a warp brech on Atoma Prime mabey ?

[green loom]

We dunno

yet

[fleet light]

The Admonition probably just have some witches summoning daemons

[brittle minnow]

spoken like a true inqisetor

[crimson kayak]

Grendel is not even in the system atm

Everything happening here is to be credited to Rannick

Also yeah, never expect Marines, Greater daemons or stuff like that, too out of the powerscale

[queen laurel]

Our characters should have died when they fought plague ogryns

[celest dome]

A Plague Ogryn is still in the type of things that we could expect our teams to defeat, ableit very difficult

[fleet light]

I think fighting off thousands of poxwalkers without getting infected is more extraordinary

Like there would be viscera everywhere

[crimson kayak]

Yeah but as I said before that's more a gameplay/lore dissonance

I'm most sure that a canon mission has more like sedition levels of enemies around

[storm jungle]

Also people kinda forget most of the Rejects are combat veterans and are armed to the teeth by the time you reach Lvl. 30

[crimson kayak]

Tbf the player characters are Not most of the Rejects to begin with

[storm jungle]

Yeah people forget you are suppose to be the luckiest few among like a hundred dead prisoners lol

Also ogryns can literally rip open tanks, so thats also a big power boost to a strike-team

[crystal forum]

so is the horus heresy series actually coming to an end when the siege of terra ends

[crimson kayak]

I mean, hopefully

[viral halo]

yea the buried dagger was the last book in the series allegeldy

siege of terra being another series technically i mean

[crystal forum]

so is it possible that GW might start a huge new thing

[queen laurel]

Adds a new modifier that straight up summons a daemon prince

[crimson kayak]

I mean while technically true it's all just semantics lol

[storm jungle]

Entirely so

after the Heresy we'll get the Scouring

[arctic talon]

They said it isn’t scouring

[storm jungle]

more or less the entire prequel story of what happened following the Heresy

[arctic talon]

The big BL writers

Are sick of marines

[storm jungle]

Yeah BL doesnt care

we will get it

[crystal forum]

oh fuck is that not 40k territory?

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

lmao

[storm jungle]

Kinda

[arctic talon]

Scouring is pre 40K

[storm jungle]

its post 30k

[arctic talon]

But like

The imperium is starting to become the like imperium we recognize lol

[storm jungle]

Also where was this said, for research

[crystal forum]

damn i didn't even imagine what kind of stuff might be written about the downfall of the imperium to what it is now

[arctic talon]

It was in one of the recent siege of terra things

Iirc

But HH was a huge dampener creatively

[storm jungle]

gimme source or it didnt happen

[arctic talon]

I’ll look for it

[crimson kayak]

Tbf I can understand them after writing exclusively marines forever

[storm jungle]

Honestly

Abnett is like

[near wasp]

In game we are basically special ops

[storm jungle]

the only guy who'll blow-job marines for eternity

others are deffo tired

[crystal forum]

seeing a picture of abnett for the release of the recent siege of terra book made me realize how old he is

[storm jungle]

Hes been around

he worked with Marvel to make the Guardians of the Galaxy

hes an actual prime boomer

[queen laurel]

Is that a slannesh unit?

[storm jungle]

LEL

Really tho

he wrote such a big thing

they seperated it into 3 books

holy shit his editor must be the most spineless mfer in existence

[crystal forum]

have you seen how massive the books are though

[storm jungle]

I have and its all filler

[crystal forum]

i was wondering how they were so massive

[storm jungle]

Basically

• Pointless side characters

• Pointless sideplots

• Pointless narration

[queen laurel]

Damn sounds like anime

[crystal forum]

i might not even read them because they look so exhausting to go through

[arctic talon]

Honestly

[storm jungle]

Yeah its just tiring

[arctic talon]

At this point a reading order

That chops up the final 3 books is necessary

There’s already a ton of duds in Horus heresy

[storm jungle]

yooo

i love reading about Fafnir Ran

[crystal forum]

im sure whatever's in these books will be quoted by the community for years to come anyways

[storm jungle]

for 30 chapters

[storm jungle]

You should see how they reacted to the first Death and the Meme book

"OMG DARK KIGN"

"WHAT IS THE DARK KING?"

"THE DARK KING IS TIED TO SOMETHING"

[crimson kayak]

But hey, if they write about the scouring we may finally see the Iron Cage actually being explained properly (hopefully)

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

Dark king

Is just a McGuffin

[crystal forum]

it's crazy how horus heresy has taken over 40k lore

[storm jungle]

Yeah

like

go to r40klore right now

its literally nothing

but Primarchs

or 30k

Its an actual plague

[arctic talon]

Inb4 black library’s next series is about Eldar or Tau

[storm jungle]

Xenos

you almost had me

[queen laurel]

At least the tau got Farsight

[arctic talon]

Nvm black library just said they aren’t doing a Scouring series

In the most recent interviews

About what comes after the Horus heresy

Thank fuck

[storm jungle]

lmao

show me

[arctic talon]

I don’t want more marine stuff

[queen laurel]

Xenos players watching another marine release

[crystal forum]

i feel like that's because there's already so much stuff about what happened after the siege of terra

[arctic talon]

I don’t want to go through a several hour long video

[storm jungle]

lmao

[arctic talon]

[storm jungle]

AT LEAST show me where its at

[near wasp]

[arctic talon]

I can’t find it

I give up

[near wasp]

L bozo

[crystal forum]

the responsible choice imo would have been to make the return of primarchs and primaris stuff into its own series following the conclusion of 30k. so we'd have a before, middle and after

[arctic talon]

At least most xenos books are decent