#40k-lore-chat

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queen laurel
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I watch the kill count for the movie adaptation the dog was pretty good at acting, really made the situation scary

viral halo
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single mom in car fight dog

storm jungle
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it sounds weird

queen laurel
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Really wanted me to shoot the damn puppy

storm jungle
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but this also happens daily

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to be fair at that point

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the best thing you can do is put it down

viral halo
storm jungle
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LMAO

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Look

viral halo
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PLEASE WATCH

storm jungle
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Maximum Overdrive has AC/DC

viral halo
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That's stephen COKE not stephen KING

storm jungle
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MACHINE SPIRIT RAMPAGE

queen laurel
viral halo
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In the 6th grade I was sent to the principal's office for reading "the stand"

storm jungle
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Maximum Overdrive is legit amazing.

No grimdark, no dark tones.

Its PEOPLE vs TECHNOLOGY

crisp heath
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The ending of Maximum Overdrive is the funniest thing in the world

viral halo
storm jungle
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"Arch Magos, this cogitator just called me an asshole!"

crisp heath
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I think my first Steven King experience was The Dark Tower

viral halo
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after that I don't remember what happens

crisp heath
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Dr. Sleep is actually a really good movie if you haven't seen it

storm jungle
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Dr. Sleep really surprised me on how good it was

queen laurel
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Speaking of stephen king, you guys read Christine?

storm jungle
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I have

crisp heath
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I avoided it for a long time but the bar scene towards the end tore me to shreds because I had just started going to AA

storm jungle
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really good book and movie

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also car horniness staregryn

viral halo
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His newer book about the chupacabra or whatever that got adapted into a series was crazy, mf had to add that the monster rapes everything before it kills it cause uhhhh it uhhh does it uhhh bc uhhh

nocturne crest
queen laurel
crisp heath
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Revolutionary Girl Utena is the only car kink show for me

viral halo
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I always wanted to read the one about the dome

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That King did

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I like the idea of townspeople killing each other over nothing that's why needful things is my fave king book

nocturne crest
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Has anyone seen the film threads?

celest dome
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One of my teacher when I was still at school gave us a big list, I think there were about 5 pages, about 50 lines of titles/writers separated in about 3 columns. And we had to chose books from it.
And from memory, there were lord of the ring. Harry potter, all the King, all the Agatha Christy and all that. Plenty of books that other teacher would never give us. Loved that teacher. Read an Agatha Christy, my best friend read Pet sematary

viral halo
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they werent playin no games w harry potter

crisp heath
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In elementary school The Golden Compass movie had just come out and my teacher told me that if we read the books God would punish us and our grandchildren for 7 generations

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Teachers are funny sometimes

viral halo
celest dome
crisp heath
viral halo
celest dome
viral halo
crisp heath
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I still know people who won't let their kids read Harry Potter

celest dome
viral halo
queen laurel
celest dome
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I know someone who as a kid was allowed to see Lord of the Ring but not SW and HP cause magic

crisp heath
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My mom was very chill when I came out but she sat me down as an adult and tried to preach to me because... I really like Lord of the Rings?

viral halo
queen laurel
viral halo
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I know some mf who needed to be less into hogwarts legacy and more into getting they warts hogged for their legacy yk

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giant buzzer no noise

crisp heath
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I can't judge any other Fandom because I like Homestuck

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I'm the bottom of the barrel babey

viral halo
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I saw so many homestuck memes on ifunny in like 2011-2012 and still don't know what it is

crisp heath
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You've been blessed

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Where did my $3 million go?

viral halo
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I do not understand the 3 million dollars reference but I will give it a chuckle

crisp heath
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A major character of Homestuck also had sex with Hitler canonically and the author wrote that Hitler became evil because of Einstein which was one of the greatest Fandom shitshows in history

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10/10 would recommend

viral halo
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I think I'd rather wash my face with razors

celest dome
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Safety razors or normal ones ?

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I've read a trilogy that is called "Jesus against Hitler" honestly it was fun

queen laurel
crisp heath
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Anyway my state just brought back banned books and the Bible can be taught in schools now so I'm very excited to see what popular Fandom becomes the next satanic panic

celest dome
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Honestly it wouldn't have been strange if it had happened

viral halo
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forget what it's called but the dude made a ton of those books

crisp heath
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I should buy a bunch of gay YA novels and put them in the charity libraries now that I think of it

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Time to Kickstart a Holly Black rennaissance

celest dome
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I've got a lesbian friend. And she always complained that there were such a difference in amount of gay to lesbian centred books

queen laurel
crisp heath
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Holly Black is the queen of "gay side character"

nocturne crest
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I wonder if anyone has tried to pull a 50 shades of Grey book creation moment with warhammer.

uneven temple
storm jungle
celest dome
nocturne crest
storm jungle
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Noblewomen and writers get bored

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totally happened a lot

celest dome
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I don't think there has been one, like GW is not the type of letting thosesort of things go by and none would be as famous as 50 shade

storm jungle
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oh wait

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i thought we were talking in-universe

arctic talon
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Lol

uneven temple
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Technically that's what the open submissions are, write up something and if BL likes it you might get to write some version of it

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But you couldn't just write fan fiction and then try to find a publisher, BL is the only one out there. You'd have to go through them

celest dome
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We do have a BL author here

storm jungle
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Open submissions are also always Marine related

arctic talon
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Hey not always

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There was that one guard story that won

storm jungle
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when

arctic talon
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Wait

storm jungle
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1923?

arctic talon
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Nvm

celest dome
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Wasn't that just last year, and the year before

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And the one before

arctic talon
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Anyways I feel bad

storm jungle
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Lmao

arctic talon
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For the people who have to read

celest dome
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And then it was fantasy iirc

arctic talon
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People’s fanfic

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For black library

storm jungle
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Ehhh

arctic talon
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Then again

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There’s prolly some really good stuff in there

storm jungle
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Theres a lot of good 40k fanfics.

the problem is

arctic talon
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As well so it evens out

storm jungle
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for every 5 good ones

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theres 30 bad ones

arctic talon
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So the usual issue

storm jungle
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Also smut

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aka half the 40k content I write

uneven temple
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There's been AoS open submissions

arctic talon
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Smut is never gona he published by GW

storm jungle
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Oh yeah i know

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hence why i said my content

storm jungle
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💀

arctic talon
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Lol

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True

storm jungle
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something-something

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wet leopard growl

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skintight outfit

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Half of Abnett's female characters

arctic talon
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At least he’s consistent smarf

storm jungle
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LEL

arctic talon
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Still awful

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But I’ll take shitty consistency

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Over awful inconsistency

celest dome
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hey he write better female character than Stephen king does

shadow plover
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Bequin is great though

celest dome
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Which is not saying much but still

arctic talon
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He can write good female characters when he wants to

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But he usually just doesn’t lol

storm jungle
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LMAO

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that yeah

storm jungle
arctic talon
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💀

storm jungle
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end me

arctic talon
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No

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Suffering must be shared

celest dome
arctic talon
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~~Which is why I’ll now post the Ian Watson noise marine excerpt ~~

storm jungle
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Lmaooo

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to be fair even that is not that bad

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its literally just

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orgy sex

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penis mouth

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most book readers are just very not-used to any content like this

arctic talon
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I didn’t need to see the penis get with eyes and arms described

storm jungle
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so they are like "OMG THIS IS HORRIFYING"

arctic talon
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It’s not horrifying tbh

storm jungle
arctic talon
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Its just weird as shit

storm jungle
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I mean

arctic talon
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Yeah it’s chaos

storm jungle
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Watson was literally a fetish writer

arctic talon
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Lol

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True

storm jungle
shadow plover
# arctic talon But he usually just doesn’t lol

you also forget that all the bad female writing is from like 2001 or something, he has improved a lot from then and it's less about wanting to write them good but just learning to write them good over time

storm jungle
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yeah but

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skintight outfit

celest dome
shadow plover
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pretty sure Nayl is said to have one under his coat as well

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bodyglove this bodyglove that

storm jungle
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its been like 37 years since I read Eisenhorn so i cannot remember

arctic talon
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GW should make the next assassin have a massive bulge just like the venemum one Ancestral_Trolling

storm jungle
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LMAO

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Yeah the assassins all look sex-appeal'y so i dont mind

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tho uh

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their asses are flat as fuck

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at least the male ones

arctic talon
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Yeah

storm jungle
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No 🍰

arctic talon
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Actually

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Not umbral 6 lol

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But he’s a limited time mini

celest dome
arctic talon
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Bros ass is flat

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storm jungle
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he has NO ASS

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for real

shadow plover
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in the 31 millenium the orks took all the ass for their bois by believing that hey had the most scrumptious asses in the galaxy

storm jungle
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😩

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also this joke is even worse because you are referencing the old ork boy sculpts

arctic talon
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They’re throwing it back

shadow plover
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it's exactly what I'm referring to

arctic talon
storm jungle
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💀

celest dome
crisp heath
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Finally want to dive deep into AoS lore. Any channel recs?

green loom
crystal forum
storm jungle
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Uhhh some do

crisp heath
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No sex in 40k unless you're the swarmlord

storm jungle
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I never checked

crisp heath
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Actually I take it back

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Men are gross but young Lion is 👀

viral halo
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AoS lore be like yea this shits sick but it's gonna be so hard to follow that you aint gonna know anything

storm jungle
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^

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you basically gotta read a lot

celest dome
crisp heath
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Old Lion is Old

viral halo
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in combat

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uhhhh uhhhhh

crisp heath
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Curze gets points because as we all know Curze was a woman

green loom
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Whoops youtube link broke

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I like dis guy

viral halo
crisp heath
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I understand now

green loom
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Is a lil possum

storm jungle
green loom
storm jungle
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Jetstream Sam spotted

nocturne crest
arctic talon
nocturne crest
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So seeing how some space marine chapters have a special hatred for specific traitor legions, who do the Salamanders and Raven guard hate the most?

arctic talon
nocturne crest
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Good point.

crisp heath
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They both especially hate the Night Lords actually

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Night Lords participated in the drop site massacre, plus what Curze did to Vulcan, plus the rivalry between Corax and Curze

queen laurel
crisp heath
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Although it should be noted that Raven Guard don't get along with anyone and have had beef with every other legion at some point

crisp heath
queen laurel
nocturne crest
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And then the NL got some of their assets raided by renegade raven guard.

keen stratus
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Its just me or is this too slaaneshi coming from the flag?

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arctic talon
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The flagellent is slaaneshi

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like

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x100 lol

keen stratus
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(For those who dont play DD2, hes supposed to be catholic)

arctic talon
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He literally got kicked out of church

keen stratus
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yeah but its weird you know

arctic talon
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for being a weirdo

keen stratus
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hes supposed to be catholich

arctic talon
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I mean

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sorta?

keen stratus
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Doesnt he hate the heretics?

arctic talon
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he isn't religous

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like at all

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his hero shrines point out the fact that he's just a psycho

keen stratus
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If you say so

arctic talon
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one moment

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"Drawn to the sombre depths of the church's oubliettes, he pledged his life to the clergy. There, he inflicted death by slow, delicious degrees - each crack of the lash an honour, a gift, a morbid sacrament. But his zeal proved too ardent, his brethren too timid - they cast him out, rendered him once more unto the streets. "

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He's a religous fanatic

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and got kicked out of church lol

keen stratus
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Yeah like

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he was too realigious for church

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and thats why its weird hes so slaaneshi

arctic talon
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not really imo

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Religous fanatics irl tend to break rules of their religion

keen stratus
arctic talon
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or just disregard entire parts of it that disagree with their personal ideolgy

keen stratus
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And also, the fact hes so rotten and still alive

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literally fighthing death

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isnt that nurgle?

crystal forum
arctic talon
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Also true

echo vault
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I hate this creature

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queen laurel
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out of curiosity why do you exhibit such hate on this creature

celest dome
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Beastmen chaos spawn

celest dome
queen laurel
echo vault
queen laurel
echo vault
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Like a walk in closet that's a fryer too just put him in there, like a huge smoker but for frying ofc

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After that idk I'm not eating it

queen laurel
echo vault
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I'd love a channel that's like a Warhammer mukbang channel about ogres eating everything in Warhammer

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ASMR you're at the table with the boys

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Or maybe you're skragg the slaughterer making a baller ass meal

queen laurel
echo vault
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Gobbo stew

queen laurel
echo vault
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Id actually love a series where it's orks making like squig pies and fungus beer like a British cooking show

queen laurel
echo vault
green loom
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Da Great Orkish Feest

crystal forum
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i wonder if peta ever did anything about 40k

celest dome
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Think so with the Space Wolves

queen laurel
storm jungle
queen laurel
celest dome
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Wasn't it with the treatment of the wolves no

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Or the fur on the minis

storm jungle
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It was entirely focused on the overuse of fur of animals on a lot of characters of each faction.

queen laurel
storm jungle
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He also wrote this in response as a joke lore event:

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Its not official since he wrote it as a joke but would entirely fit in KEK

crystal forum
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amazing

storm jungle
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Like I REALLY DO HATE overuse of fur clothing and show-off outfits like that IRL but in 40k its like... everyone is awful, its a parody, why are you so upset over this

crystal forum
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the fact that the letter says killing animals takes no skill

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in 40k

queen laurel
celest dome
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Does it mean that if I killed a bear in melee combat PETA would be alright with me wearing it's skin ?

queen laurel
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and you care about animals getting skinned?

queen laurel
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is probably what they will do

crystal forum
celest dome
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Oh woah really ?

queen laurel
crystal forum
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yeah. i can even get locally made leather clothes

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peta would freak

celest dome
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Oh nice

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We once found an old boaring spear at my great grandpa's house

shadow plover
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peta are hypocrites anyways, they kill hundreds of shelter dogs

crystal forum
queen laurel
crystal forum
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yeah, the inuits hunt them

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it's like a big thing to kill a polar bear

queen laurel
coarse pumice
crystal forum
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i kinda dislike how some fur is just slapped on power armour

crisp heath
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Oh, are you in Greenland?

crystal forum
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no

crisp heath
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I love old inuit ladies, they always give me the stink eye but still want to cook for us

crystal forum
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I've mostly had interactions with Cree so far

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the village is a mix of both cree and inuits

crisp heath
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I've been to Alaska and the area I go to is mostly Inuit and Yupik, probably my favorite place in the world

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I almost want to move there but I feel like letting it remain the way it is now would be better than a bunch of white people moving in

crystal forum
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I've been here for two months now and im starting to get homesick

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even though i haven't left my home province it feels like a different country up here

crisp heath
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Yeah the far north really does, but it's kind of the opposite for me

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I feel way more at home when I'm up north

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Although I'd hate it in the actual interior or yukon, I don't think I'm cut out to even survive lmao

crystal forum
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there's a reason they call those places territories instead of provinces

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nobody wants to got there except gold miners

crisp heath
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Oh Americans go into the interior all the time to escape society

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Literally get some land in some barely livable area miles from other people, build a hut, and hunt, spend all summer stocking up because you'll be snowed in all winter

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Hundreds of those guys at the least, probably thousands at this point if we're being honest

crystal forum
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i dont see the appeal but some people really like being alone

crisp heath
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I was considering doing it, but I'm just not cut out for the lifestyle

viral halo
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PETA is so funny

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They tried the same shit with wow and have a whole questline about how fucking stupid they are in wrath of the lich king

crisp heath
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Yall think a very powerful eldar (like Eldrad level) could sit on the golden throne without getting Malcador'd?

terse flume
terse flume
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i have had this conversation with so many people who visited or lived there and you never quite lose that longing. it's like living on the moon in some ways

crisp heath
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Yessss

coarse pumice
wicked vector
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Wasn't that removed from canon? Would be cool tho

celest dome
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I think it was just not mentioned anymore

storm jungle
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We dont really have any idea where its going though so lol

wicked vector
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The eeeend timmmes 👻

storm jungle
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I do love Warhammer

green loom
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You like Warhammer?

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Name every hammer

celest dome
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Ghal Maraz

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Hammer of harry

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Black Hammer of hashut

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Blessed Silver hammer

storm jungle
wicked vector
green loom
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Should I draw an inquisitorial retinue after my infinity stuff loregryn

celest dome
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Why not

nocturne crest
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How big is a space wolves great company?

green loom
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As big as the plot needs

arctic talon
green loom
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I'm not even kidding, they somehow stay in the fight despite having one of the least stable geneseeds and regularly losing large swathes of marines KEKW_ogryn

nocturne crest
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That's daft.

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But it's 40k.

arctic talon
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There’s as many of X as the plot demands

keen stratus
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Yeah like, every single time you ask yourself how many of something are in warhammer

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is truly whatever GW wants

queen laurel
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also the imperium literally has other things to win, you think you're being overwhelmed, well be happy because you have titan support now

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That's still not enough?
How about a literal living saint angel

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That still not enough?
How about demonic space marines that are always on fire

wicked vector
frosty stag
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If hypothetically every faction does actually team up once tyranids surround them do they still even have a chance at winning

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I guess nekrons boost their power by alot but it still doesn’t seem like much

celest dome
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Maybe we don't really have the scope of the full Tyranid force in the universe

frosty stag
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Id assume its high as fuck

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As one hive fleet can whip out entire hive cities

celest dome
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Well so can orks and even the IoM

queen laurel
celest dome
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Yeah but they are not gonna be alone.

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If the races ally up it mean it's their last stands. So the Tyr prob have pulled all their guns too

queen laurel
celest dome
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Which will work for a while. Till Tyr evolve again

queen laurel
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The Frontline of the main factions, is already going to be very hard to pierce for the tyranids, a front line of Orks, space marines, eldar, guardsman and more, also this Frontline will be supported by well armed armor columns, and absolutely devastating firing support

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Also each race is unique with it comes to tactics

celest dome
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Yeah but you have Tyr micro organisms that would also be a threat

queen laurel
wicked vector
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I'm trying to find the approximative year of when Darktide takes place, it is said it's by videogame ""journalist"" 40,000 which would put it in 000.M41, but the destruction of Cadia is marked in 999.M41 of the current Imperial calendar (which is incorect by almost a millenia but we'll ignore that) and clearly Darktide takes place after the fall of Cadia. So when would it take place? During the plague wars?

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Idk if there has been a date placed precisely for it

shadow plover
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around the start of the indomitus crusade

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so shortly after the fall of cadia

wicked vector
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Ooh so between 999.M41 and 012.M42 ig (end of first phase of indomitus crusade)

shadow plover
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yeah, probably closer to 012.M42 than 999.M41 because Tertium has statues of Primaris marines already

wicked vector
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O: I didn't notice that

shadow plover
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yeah in the Throneside maps you can see those about

frosty stag
wicked vector
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Mmm

frosty stag
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Warhammer is so cool

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I love the lore

shadow plover
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But yeah, the most definitive indicator of the timeline is that Guilliman is mentioned and that he has already started the Indomitus Crusade

frosty stag
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I have not yet learned of the indomitus crusade do tell

shadow plover
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it's basically the mission to reach the lost half of the imperium beyond the rift

frosty stag
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Oh cool

shadow plover
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and regain control and connection to the sectors lost

frosty stag
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That sounds dope

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I love magnus the reds story during the start of horus

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“Dad horus is being bad” magnus

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“Thank you magnus very cool” daemons

wicked vector
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Also I have a dumb question, in which sector is Tertium? In Imperium Nihilius or the other?

shadow plover
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It's in Pacificus, but Nihilus and Pacificus aren't sectors, those are much smaller areas

wicked vector
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Oh ye my bad

celest dome
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Pacificus
Moebian Domain
Atoman Sector
Atoma
Tertium

wicked vector
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Yea they're the split parts of the Imperium by the secatrix maledictum

wicked vector
celest dome
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Irrc, but we don't know where the Moebian Domain is iirc

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Segmentum wise

shadow plover
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not accurately but it's around cadia and agrapinaa, galactic north of Terra in segmentum obscurus

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some blogpost or dev's forum post stated it was around the same distance from Terra as Necromunda but to the opposite direction

celest dome
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How do we know ?

frosty stag
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Whats the tyranid fleet map look like

wicked vector
celest dome
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Yeah, it's fan made but quite accurate, though for Ed7-8 iirc

shadow plover
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yeah it's a bit old

wicked vector
shadow plover
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not as detailed but pretty good nevertheless

wicked vector
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I don't like it much tbh it's in freeeeeench

celest dome
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Eww, Frenchy

wicked vector
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So everytime I have to figure out what the french gw branch is trying to translate as when I talk with English 40k players

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Like for instance, Librarians we have a french word for it Libraire but no they were like "naah too easy" and called it archiviste, which means archivist

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Why

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It sucks

celest dome
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Tbh Libraire would sound lame (I speak French)

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Should have gone with Latin names

wicked vector
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Also idk how it is called in English but in french we call a unit necron tétrarque which sounds exactly like tetrarch's of Ultramar

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Oh it's triarch I think

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So yea

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The translation causing confusions in name

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OH NVM

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A necron tétrarque is a necron overlord

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WHY DID THEY DO THAT

shadow plover
wicked vector
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Translate everything or translate nothing I say

shadow plover
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Man am I glad there are no translations to my language

wicked vector
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Which is?

celest dome
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Krabouillator Ork KEKW_ogryn

shadow plover
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Finnish

wicked vector
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O:

shadow plover
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I know of one space hulk card game which was translated to Finnish and it's awful

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almost any media translated to Finnish just doesn't work

wicked vector
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Personally I read the books and play games in English cause I'm more used with the naming convention

celest dome
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"Capitaine avec fusil bolter lourd de maître" "Captain with Artificer Heavy Bolter"
Damn that's a mouthful

wicked vector
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Lourd de maître non mais ahahaha

celest dome
green loom
green loom
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Don't even want to start imagining

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How cringe it'd be

wicked vector
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Translating names into Latin is the only translation that won't sound like garbage imo

celest dome
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The Italian one sound not too bad iirc

wicked vector
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oh there's also the inconsistent translating of We March for Maccrage in french

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Sometimes they translate it as "allons y pour Maccrage" and then someone makes a pun and they're forced to translate it as "nous marchons pour Maccrage"

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Like that one time in Pharos in which an Ultramarine's doing a 0g assault and says "we float for Maccrage"

echo vault
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Kairos Fatweaver

wicked vector
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What about the two headed chicken

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Oh

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I just noticed the pun lmfao

wooden ridge
wicked vector
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tbh french translation could sound great, if it wasn't made by muppets

wooden ridge
wicked vector
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oooh truuue

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I can imagine using it as low gothic, since there are a lot of low gothics

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french german russian too maybe

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would sound nice

crimson kayak
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Simply cause it's either that or having to call a Bolter a dart-shooter by going for the literal translation

wicked vector
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Requiem rifle sounds cool

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How is rifle said in italian? Is it smth close to fusil?

crimson kayak
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Fucile

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Mitragliatore if automatic usually, even through it's more for s/lmg

wicked vector
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In french thankfully we kept the word bolter cause you can't really describe it as well as "it bolts stuff"

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If bolt means turning someone into a red mist

crimson kayak
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Oh shit

celest dome
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Pardon ?

crimson kayak
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I just noticed they translated Farsight name

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It's a name it just sounds stupid in italian why gw

wicked vector
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I mean yea but it's a name that means something in English so ig that's why they did it

crimson kayak
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Yeah but "Lungosguardo" just doesn't roll well out of the mouth lol

wicked vector
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Lol

crimson kayak
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Wich is even funnier when you then have stuff like the mechanicus models where they didn't even bother translating most of their names

wicked vector
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Idk how it is but none of the chapters name are translated for us

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Except the grey shields

crimson kayak
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They tried in Italy then after a while just got back to using the English names

wicked vector
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I don't remember if they tried in France at all, I assume in Quebec they had no choice because of anti English language laws

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Nah they didn't

crimson kayak
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I must say it wasn't that bad when they tried it in italy

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But they also didn't even attempt to mention the minor chapter names

wicked vector
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so the first codexes only had 2nd founding chapters in italy?

crystal forum
storm jungle
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I mean its Quebec

crystal forum
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choose your words carefully

storm jungle
crystal forum
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for some reason the french starter sets for 10th keep going out of stock

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the really expensive ones too

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i actually bought the french starter set for 9th last month because all the english ones were sold out

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so i'll have french space marines

crimson kayak
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They actually did do a pretty good job with the chapter names

wicked vector
wicked vector
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Japanese translation is just turning the name into karakana as far as I know lol

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Katakana*

crimson kayak
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Oh God... They translated scions as sons but didn't bother with Tempestus, so in italian they are the "Figli(Sons) Tempestus"

Also love how tanks are translated as stuff like the Leman Russ Battle Armour

green loom
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Is the g silent

crimson kayak
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Oh God i don't know how to explain it but no, it's part of pronouncing Gl

wicked vector
crimson kayak
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It's not in that sense but yeah it's funny how most names adapted to Italian and translated literally back to english tend to sound twice more dramatic

wicked vector
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I assume it's like french to say it's armoured?

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In french we say blindée for tanks sometimes which literally translate to armoured

crimson kayak
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Ye, more like that

green loom
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I'm not sure how to explain but we use "armour" too more or less

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But it's weird since it's a kind of adjective

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But the root word is "armour"

crisp heath
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Tbf Scion does mean "son"

crimson kayak
celest dome
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Not sure if relevant

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Not sure if warden wouldallow it

green loom
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Not sure if virus

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@storm jungle

arctic talon
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It prolly is

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Lol

crimson kayak
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I sure do trust links without context

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Ok just checked, doesn't look like a virus

celest dome
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@odd tulip You're here, what's your take on it

odd tulip
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Irrelevant for this channel. Also don't post random links to sussy websites. Do it again and there will be consequences.

rain coral
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Damn my record dry for wrong channel

nocturne crest
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Does anyone think there are some space marine chapters who should have their parentage revealed?

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Like Marines Malevolent as an example.

arctic talon
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Parentage doesn’t really mean much aside from the blood angels

nocturne crest
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True.

arctic talon
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And that’s mostly bcs of sanguinus dying

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Marines can be nothing like their progenitor primarch

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The Carcharadons are a bunch of brutal slavers who round up civilians for enslavement and kill people who aren’t supposed to see them lol

sullen cape
arctic talon
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In case you’re wondering who the Carchs dad is it’s Corax

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It’s all but confirmed at this point

sullen cape
arctic talon
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Exorcists are confirmed to be imperial fists

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not GK's

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it was in a white dwarf a while ago

sullen cape
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no there not, look in BL: steven Parker Deathwtch serries talks about how they are GK sons.

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the inqusitor state they are a bastard ofspring of the GK chapter.

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the whitedwarf recon it,

arctic talon
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Yeah and is canon right now

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the retcon is the most recent

sullen cape
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debatable

arctic talon
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They're imperial fists

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And have been fists since that white dwarf

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wether you like that new lore more or not is up to you

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but its what GW has decided

sullen cape
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it stil debateable. yeah they did that for rules purposes for the in game modesl cuase they couldn't provde the GK codex to the Exocist. there little to no relationship between the IF and the Exocist chapter comparable to that of the GK. simillar how there is debate on wther or not the Caradon are NightLord of spring or Corax it dpeend on which book your reading. form.

nocturne crest
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And they were made foolish by Lucius recently

arctic talon
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Thats my opinon

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feel free to disagree with it but imo it makes things a lot cleaner

sullen cape
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then your going to have a nightmare with SW lore.

arctic talon
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good thing I don't pay attention to it

nocturne crest
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I wonder if they'll give the GK successors when they get the primaris treatment.

sullen cape
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idg why your putting smurfs at the end of thing.

nocturne crest
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Or the true scale treatment if it something else.

arctic talon
arctic talon
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they'll just get scaled up

sullen cape
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it depends on weather gw, think they need to increase the profit margin.

arctic talon
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they had a chance to with Crowe

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GK minis are old as shit

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they're from 4e technically

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its about time they've gotten an update

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which would mean being upscaled to the new marine scale

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which Crowe is in

storm jungle
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late but

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GK having successors makes no fucking sense

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their geneseed is literally from Big E

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lol

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shit lore but its still lore

sullen cape
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yo can take that upwith steve parker.

storm jungle
#

who tf is Steve Parker

sullen cape
#

bl writer

arctic talon
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Crowe is quite a bit larger

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odd palm
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iirc a white dwarf index astartes article and maybe the recent codex for SMS confirms them as IF

arctic talon
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then the original Grey knight sizes

odd palm
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Also Steven Parker novel is a few years outta date

arctic talon
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but thats mostly since GK's are small as shit

storm jungle
#

he hasnt been with BL since 2019

arctic talon
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they were smaller then 6e CSM

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Grey knights have always been very stubby

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heh

storm jungle
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also as Wolf said, lore changes

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stupid lore especially

arctic talon
#

Bloodtide is clearly still canon despite having been rewritten and renamed

storm jungle
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Lmao

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to be fair its been retconned to be less cringe

arctic talon
#

yeah

storm jungle
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I personally didnt care

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it was funny

arctic talon
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it got renamed and rewritten

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lol

odd palm
arctic talon
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💀

storm jungle
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Yep here it is

arctic talon
#

I still think its really funny

sullen cape
#

headhunter was mention then shaodw breaker confirmed it

odd palm
#

But those have been retconned

storm jungle
#

^

arctic talon
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that the plastic GK in 5e were just recasts of the 3e guys

storm jungle
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Exorcists are IF

arctic talon
#

with just better scaling

odd palm
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So now all you have is headcannon, colonel

sullen cape
#

debatable

arctic talon
storm jungle
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Its not

sullen cape
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they did it to provide rules for the mdoels in game.

nocturne crest
storm jungle
arctic talon
sullen cape
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Also BL stuff is cannon.

storm jungle
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its not

arctic talon
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the exorcists have never had their own rules

storm jungle
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BL contradicts itself constantly

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because too many authors

sullen cape
arctic talon
storm jungle
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Yeah and GW is not that dumb

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GK cannot have successors

odd palm
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The codex’s take precedent over the novels, as it’s always been

storm jungle
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they are literally suppose to be a secret chapter

arctic talon
#

its just a custom chapter in a trench coat

nocturne crest
arctic talon
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it wouldn't add anything imo

storm jungle
#

The Grey Knights are literally of their own league

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they arent a random "secret" chapter

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they are THE secret chapter lmao

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its literally their entire thing

sullen cape
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How many Bl authories become primary authories for Codexs, current in the Loreshop (according to My local store manger) Grav thorp, justin D.hll and Robort Rath are some of the primary Codex Lore writer and they also all BL authors. So the Ideal that BL stuff isn't Cannon is disproven. as the Fall of Cadia which is mention in several book prior to the the Actual event is cannon, Flase Hope, ichar iv are cannon but they only appear in BL novels

storm jungle
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Because those guys are big shots

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and Old Guard authors

sullen cape
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GK got stuffed up by MattWard

storm jungle
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Gav Thorpe literally wrote god knows how many codexes since 40k first got established

sullen cape
#

yes. the point being the stuff in BL are cannon, HE wrote them and god know how many other authoeries expect Dan abbent are Cannon. Abbentt lore just works it way around the Warhammer unverise.

storm jungle
#

Them being canon doesnt stop them form not making sense lol

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Abnett is literally ignored by most people because he deviates so much from established lore.

#

mostly because he can just do whatever he wants

sullen cape
#

this is true. but the fact is he stuff is in the codex's which is main stream lore. look at the Guard. there are 2 version of the fall of Cadia depending on how you look at in Justin D.hill (currently in the LoreWorker room) hr wrote caida having a sucessor planet in the form of new caida. while in the Guard codex 9th there is no new planets

storm jungle
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Thats not really a retcon though and theres no 2 versions

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the upcoming book is just gonna detail the war itself

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the Cadia Stands book we had before just followed random guardsman characters that had no ties to the actual big events of Gathering Storm

storm jungle
#

its why people ignore small details like that lol

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40k lore is a fucking mess

#

Where even is this "theres no new cadian planets" thing from

sullen cape
#

it is. just been catalgoiny libarary i'm at 415 BL and Gw Lore book.

storm jungle
#

The what?

sullen cape
#

9th code

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x

storm jungle
#

Yeah but its been established by other sources that Cadians are settling on other planets.

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So you know

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🤷‍♀️

nocturne crest
#

Can they still be called Cadians if they've settled on already named worlds?

storm jungle
#

Yes.

sullen cape
#

yes justin d hill settles it

storm jungle
#

Cadia is not a planet

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its a people

nocturne crest
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Or would it be a case of renaming it to new South cadia.

storm jungle
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Basically this is the same as asking if you can still be American if you settle on another part of the world following your parental heritage.

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Its about the culture and the heritage of the regiment itself, less so the planet.

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Its basically what Odin tells to Thor in Ragnarok funnily enough lmao

nocturne crest
#

Good point.

storm jungle
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“Asgard is not a place. Never was. This could be Asgard. Asgard is where our people stand.”

nocturne crest
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Cadia stands.

arctic talon
#

There's also several planets called new cadia lol

storm jungle
#

Yeah that too lol

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minus uhhh

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those cadians that went to that one forgeworld for aid

nocturne crest
#

Oh no.

storm jungle
nocturne crest
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Idk.

arctic talon
storm jungle
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Agripinaa is the closest Forge World to Cadia and received many vessels of the displaced population as refugees, then immediately turned most of them into Servitors after the destruction of Cadia. The ones who refused starved to death.

arctic talon
#

wrong one

sullen cape
arctic talon
storm jungle
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Yeah i dont care its late

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not gonna bother remembering all these stupid latin names 😩

arctic talon
#

also

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they stoped servitorizing Cadian survivors and covered it all up KEKsplode

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Now they're just sending them straight into a meat grinder instead

storm jungle
#

I love mechanicus

arctic talon
#

Since they're under 24/7 attack

arctic talon
storm jungle
#

Admech apologists be like

#

"nOOOO THEY VAT-GROW ALL THEIR SERVITORS! ITS NOT INNOCENT PEOPLE"

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Sure Jan

arctic talon
#

Literally

storm jungle
arctic talon
#

embrace it

#

its fun being evil

storm jungle
#

about as bad as "the Imperium is not fascist"

arctic talon
#

Random tech priests literally kidnap menials to experiment on

#

its part of the fun

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embrace being a piece of shit

storm jungle
#

im glad our tech based overlords dont do that to us IRL

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oh wait

arctic talon
#

They just beat you instead

#

like skitarii

storm jungle
#

LMAO

arctic talon
storm jungle
#

idk dude

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Magos Musk wont get me

arctic talon
#

There's a reason skitarii like blunt force trauma and electric weapons

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its because they don't kill the subject

#

and can be used to "enforce" discipline

storm jungle
#

you get to experience approaching a celebrity's security detail in real time!

arctic talon
#

Lol

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I love how the arc rifle's listed functions are

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crowd suppression, anti vehicle, power source and menial obediance enforcer

storm jungle
#

You love to see it

arctic talon
#

Also skitarii being noted to like blunt force trauma weapons

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because they're less likely to kill menials

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when "enforcing discipline"

storm jungle
arctic talon
#

I love my jackboot skitarii

#

who are religous fanatics

#

Also sanguinius being asked why he slaughtred a bunch of innocent xenos civilians by a remebrancer is funny

#

His answer literally being "because I wanted to"

nocturne crest
#

Isn't every faction, apart from neurons, religious fanatics?

arctic talon
#

Druhkari, Tau, nids, Necrons are all pretty non religious

nocturne crest
#

The nids and Druhkari slipped my mind.

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But what about the t'au? Didn't they create an a.i of their main leader instead of revealing his death?

arctic talon
#

But the greater good isn’t religion

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It’s just

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General totalitarian regime bullshit

arctic talon
#

It’s a bad look

#

He was very young when he died

nocturne crest
#

Right, but surely could have said he passed away peaceful?

arctic talon
#

And he was near the front lines

#

In a command post

storm jungle
#

Also like

#

big leader figure deaths even IRL get covered up and are kept secret at times

#

they usually only spill after like 1-2 weeks lol

arctic talon
#

Chairman mao

#

Stalin

storm jungle
#

Lmao yep

#

Public morale in general is a big deal

arctic talon
#

All the North Korean leaders

#

Yeah

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It’s a bad look to have your leader get his brains blown out

frosty stag
#

How does the imperium keep morale up with emp just dying on a chair

winter vessel
#

lying

frosty stag
#

Oh cool

arctic talon
#

Religion is very powerful as a morale tool

frosty stag
#

God that sounds so familiar ngl

arctic talon
storm jungle
#

They are basically nazi romans so lol

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if you dont want your morale to be up uhh

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you can just get shot

nocturne crest
storm jungle
#

yeah because thats IRL

arctic talon
storm jungle
#

its hard to cover it up

#

sci-fi is another deal

nocturne crest
#

Good point.

arctic talon
#

And they’ll prolly do so eventually for Aun’Va

storm jungle
#

its a bit like in Equilibrium with uhh Christian Bale?

arctic talon
#

When he’d potentially die of old age

nocturne crest
#

Quick shill, but Death of Stalin is an enjoyable film.

arctic talon
#

But rn like

storm jungle
#

its peak cinema

arctic talon
#

Aun’va is young

#

Like super young

#

For an ethereal

#

It’ll be a while before he gets to that point where they just say he kicked it

#

But it’s convenient for the tau empire to say Aun’Va is alive rn

winter vessel
#

wonder when the juice on Aun'va's hologram is gonna run out.

storm jungle
#

prob never

arctic talon
storm jungle
#

compared to the Imperium, Tau tech is actually good

arctic talon
#

Aun’va was already pretty like

nocturne crest
#

Well, he's still around recently.

arctic talon
#

Unpublic

#

So he’s just even more unpublic now

nocturne crest
#

He was in the Arks of Omen, telling Farsight and his soldiers to die for turning against the greater good.

arctic talon
#

He was the leader of the tau empire sure

#

But like

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He was way less public then past leaders

#

Imo when they replace his mini they’ll kill him off to the tau empire

winter vessel
#

The last thing I want is another notable figure being either dead or alive, this f'ing limbo. My mind is already muddled dealing with Old One Eye, the Tyranid Carnifex.

arctic talon
#

The original old one eye is prolly dead

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But the hivemind keeps on replicating it

terse flume
nocturne crest
#

I do too.

nocturne crest
#

Wait, what about that t'au god the gue'vesa and t'au client states created?

arctic talon
#

Imo

#

It’s an effect of cultural homogenization

nocturne crest
#

You think it will be ever brought up again?

arctic talon
#

Maybe

#

We’ll see

queen laurel
crimson kayak
# nocturne crest You think it will be ever brought up again?

Recent Tau lore is still dealing with the aftermath of the 4th expansion sphere (starside nexus/Greater good warp entity days) with Shadowsun leading the 5th expansion and trying to deal with the now imperium level of racism survivors of the 4th

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But until then yeah, nothing for a while as the Tau race members of the 4th proceeded to exterminate the auxiliaries that were with them

crimson kayak
crimson kayak
#

As Aun'Va dies at the end of the 3rd Expansion Sphere campaign

nocturne crest
queen laurel
#

You can extend your life by using treatments of course but it's only ethereals

nocturne crest
#

Ah.

crimson kayak
#

And also you can pull a Shadowsun and just get in cryosleep between stuff

spring marlin
#

"Gonna look at some more cool models I'm never gonna buy."

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queen laurel
queen laurel
celest dome
#

Nearly all the weapon models we have are from minis

crimson kayak
green loom
spring marlin
celest dome
#

A Chain fist

#

I prefer the other one though

spring marlin
shadow plover
spring marlin
# celest dome

One of those corpse starch cultists, but I can't make-out enough of the image at that resolution to tell much.

shadow plover
#

it's the forge world leader character

#

harvest lord or something

celest dome
shadow plover
#

ye those are called heavy chain cleavers in his datasheet

#

it's missing the fist part

spring marlin
#

Cue "how aren't the rejects infected with Nurglepox, they don't wear masks/get covered in grime", except I can't imagine a loadout based on the cannibal cult with little armor and a lot of explosed flesh, armed with almost exclusively chain weapons going to fight the plague army.

crimson kayak
shadow plover
#

tbf only the vet is supposed to have been a part of any regiment so it kinda makes sense. Cultists are just random radicalized civvies hence the more casual gear

wicked vector
# spring marlin

make sense, genestealer cultist exclusively use imperial equipment that they've stole or made themselves in their hivecities

mystic geyser
#

@spring marlin also (though I think it's upscaled for the ogryn)

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storm jungle
#

ARE YOU.... FUCKING SERIOUS

shadow plover
#

this was expected KEKW_ogryn

#

and I'm all for it

storm jungle
#

Oh my god just let this garbage end already, PLEASE

shadow plover
#

the reveal of part 2 worded it funny so it was pretty easily deductible it won't end there

near wasp
#

Part 3????

storm jungle
#

KEK

#

I hope you like more primarch and space marine filler

shadow plover
#

how are y'all surprised by this

storm jungle
#

THEY LITERALLY ASID

#

IT WAS GONNA BE 2 PARTS

shadow plover
#

they literally called it second part not final part

#

no they didn't

storm jungle
#

they definitely worded it that way

#

this is just ridiculous

#

lmao

#

like let this series end already, fuck sakes

shadow plover
#

no, I remember it pretty vividly it being called second part many times and never anything about being a two parter

storm jungle
#

still cringe

#

Abnett needs to gtfo with this nonsense already

shadow plover
#

only thing that was unclear was how many there would be

#

eh the first part was stellar so I have pretty good expectations for these two

storm jungle
#

“It took me two years to write the whole thing. It was literally the biggest thing I’ve ever done, the most formidable challenge, because there’s so much expectation attached to it”, he adds. “I loved it. I was almost sorry when it was over and there was nothing left to write – but I had to have a good long lie-down afterwards…”

#

god shut up Dan

#

lmao

shadow plover
#

based Dan

queen laurel
#

There are two types of people

shadow plover
#

Dan fucking loves writing warhamemr and it shows in the work he does and how he talks about it, can't blame the guy

storm jungle
#

Yeah but i dont give a crap about that part of warhammer he writes.

#

Space Marines are boring and so are Primarchs

#

You can condense so much of the stuff he writes into simple things

shadow plover
#

that applies to so many things though

storm jungle
#

Im reading the Death and the End and i gotta waste time reading about some stupid characters pilfering Malcador's library wojak pointing at every stupid historical IRL character they found a book of

#

like I get it Dan

#

can you stop lmao

queen laurel
shadow plover
#

there was like two mentions of IRL writers or stories, rest were made up in some thousands years after our time

#

or retellings of known stories

#

I like to have connections from our time to that time, why wouldn't there be such things

storm jungle
#

maybe the human race really was a mistake

queen laurel
coarse pumice
#

I wonder if he’s partly responsible for all this mess

#

As one of the earlier authors they used

storm jungle
#

He ENTIRELY is

#

if you read the interview above it pretty much confirms it

#

it got this far because hes just writing so long and so much for every pointless part and side character lol

#

Its basically going to be his Magnum™️ Opus™️

green loom
#

His Magnus Oopsies

rigid magnet
storm jungle
#

Necrons could wipe out half the setting if they wanted but plot armor stops that so yes.

crisp heath
#

We need more wacky necron experiments in the lore

#

I want some guy to catch a lictor, mind control it, and cover that boy in necrodermis

celest dome
storm jungle
#

yes

crisp heath
#

Melt down 20 necrons and mix them into one Gigacron

storm jungle
#

thats basically just scarabs

queen laurel
#

But Necron super weapons are just way too broken

#

For fucks sake they have something that if you just click this button you can blow up terra

storm jungle
#

their literal basic units can kill tanks

#

they got a sniper unit hiding in a pocket dimension that can pop up anywhere at any time

queen laurel
storm jungle
#

Yeah necrons are massively nerfed for plot reasons otherwise they'd kill everyone.

#
  • Something something nobles infight
#
  • Something something tomb-world systems are buggy
queen laurel
storm jungle
#

yeah but that is at least given to the custodianship of an actually responsible dynasty.

#

They defend it from other necrons who want to use it to kill everyone which is funny af.

queen laurel
#

Because the thought of the imperium getting their grubby fingers on that thing

#

Is horrific

storm jungle
#

"PRESS EVERYTHING THAT ISNT TERRA"

queen laurel
storm jungle
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the lore for the Orrery actually says that funnily enough

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but I literally know nothing about how space, planets, and the science behind it works so i got no idea how bad blowing up so many planets by a artificial supernova detonation would be like

queen laurel
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Like terra will die if other planets are destroyed because they supply it anyway

crisp heath
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Climate change? No, on Terra we just turned the climate off, fixed everything.

rigid magnet
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Thats right, return to biotransferrence

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Meanwhile silent king screaming internally that he hates he sacrificed the flesh and freedom of his people and their individuality

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Question time: since humans are especially compatable with biotransferrence, could it be the old ones corrected the necrontyr’s fucked genetics and put it on earth?

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🤔

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With a less dead star no less

celest dome
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Not really

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The human that are compatible with Biotranspherance are the Pariah (Sub type of Blanks)

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Which are a Necron manipulation as far as we know

rigid magnet
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But isnt it also theoretical that pariah is from the necrons

celest dome
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Yeah it

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But it's a gene that the Necron knowingly implented in human civilisations

storm jungle
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It got shelved with the Newcrom reboot