40k-lore-chat

[terse flume]

what kind of xenomorph is missing acid blood

[storm jungle]

It KINDA depends

Tyranids don't really have blood so much as an internal fluid filled with phage cells, its definitely venomous and filled with deadly micro-organisms but its not really acidic iirc

because people get doused in tyranid blood all the time lol

probably just uhhh avoid skin contact

[terse flume]

sometimes micro organisms are bad, sometimes don't think about it

[storm jungle]

💀

[earnest snow]

Orcs when they hear the local humans says "my squigga" and start a waagh!

Humans never learn v.v

[shadow plover]

me stumbling into a mcdondalds at 4am after 15 pints

[queen laurel]

abominatus, it would be fun to see him with modern art

[crimson kayak]

i don't know tbh lol, does guns and arms literally sprout from out of nowhere lol

the miniature was very much less fancy lol

[queen laurel]

It's a Titan possessed by a demon so

eh

It's cool

[crimson kayak]

oh no i don't meant it's not cool, i mean more like it would need a bit of a redesign to fit them all properly on "modern" image

like, his left arm is coming straight out from under it's face in the old art lol

[queen laurel]

i don't mind that as long as they keep his general aesthetic

[crimson kayak]

yeah yeah that for sure

the design is there

but like now that i look at that left arm more the minigun is literally just a servo arm with minigun barrels, it looks more like a kanabo lol

(a kanabo)

[queen laurel]

now that i got a good luck yeah i can see where you're coming from

[winter vessel]

It always looks like someone made an art piece for a Luchador

[queen laurel]

Must be one hell of a luchador if he uses chainsaws for hands

[winter vessel]

It more or less reminds of a teen's sketch in a notebook where he's at the edgy phase.

like disregard the background and just outline the titan, I can picture that being drawn in a student's notebook you'd share a class with

[queen laurel]

"Guys this is my original character blood saw"

Yeah I can see it

[winter vessel]

But yeah, Abominatus needs to get pulled off from the dusty shelves and get put in the spotlight again. Getting an updated art piece for it would be metal.

[queen laurel]

It's one of those old things that is so cool you wonder why they haven't used it yet

[winter vessel]

I wonder if they even remember it exists at this point.

[queen laurel]

don't worry i'm sure they will remember it

turns on the copium chamber

[crimson kayak]

Cause it's an imperator titan fused with a bloodthirster, they would need an Asspull bigger than the emperor ex machina of Godblight to bring it down

(also probably keeping it for an Arkifane/Dark mechanicus future army thingie)

[winter vessel]

I'm going through copium therapy until the Astra Militarum gets some more love again and updated minis, speaking as an I.G fan boy.

[crimson kayak]

I'm still surprised how almost no one even knew Ku'Gath was slain by a guardsmen in the plague wars

[queen laurel]

there is another option

[winter vessel]

I thought it was the Grey Knight's Librarian

[crimson kayak]

Colonel Odrameyer

He rammed ku gath with a leman russ, climbed out, and pulled a shadow of the colossus by stabbing him in the skull with his PS

[queen laurel]

Bro is the definition of "that guy"

[summer rover]

every time someone calls them "astra militarum" they delay working on guard new models another day.

[crimson kayak]

Best part is that he killed another Gto before in the same war lol

My man has a daemon kill count higher than most marines

(also the heavy bolter growing legs and getting the fuck out was funny)

[queen laurel]

bro is built differently

[winter vessel]

Capital B for being an absolute Badass. Any story that doesn't have an Astartes taking the limelight is always cool to listen to. Just the average human in the Guard kicking Chaos in the ass.

[crimson kayak]

Sadly this is in Godblight so... Lots of marines

[winter vessel]

it perfectly fits the phrase "Drive me closer, I want to hit them with my sword."

[queen laurel]

He doesn't seem to have a lot of art

I'm pretty sure he's just explained on words right?

[crimson kayak]

Ye

He's the colonel of a regiment where miracles and other stuff started happening a tad too muxh

And so was approached by Mathieu and the gang

With like a "oh you got fake living saints too? Sweet" kind of vibe

Especially after one of their preachers saved the regiment by channeling a tornado of flames That only hurt poxxers

With a literal stare-down from the heavens by the emperor as that happened

[winter vessel]

he was part of the Cadians which are essentially the poster boys for the Guard. just like how the Smurfs are to the Space Marines.

[queen laurel]

god damn that preaching must be extra spicy

[crimson kayak]

Yep, lol

[crimson kayak]

Sadly he literally disappears into nothingness Literally the moment it ends

[near wasp]

It was extra spicy

[queen laurel]

the preacher just disappeared?

[crimson kayak]

Yep

They literally look around and only find a 100 foot circle of zombie ashes

[queen laurel]

" Alright so you casted this powerful spell and as for the payment it's not your energy it's your life force, fuck off"

• the emperor claiming his soul

[winter vessel]

He got “Malcadored” like on the golden throne

[near wasp]

I loved godblight

[crimson kayak]

Now if only they brought up this whole fake living saint stuff any other time after it Atleast once lol

[winter vessel]

“I don’t have time to explain why I don’t have time to explain” moment

[near wasp]

|| big e kinda had a huge part in the battle and it was the most weve ever seen his power manifest ||

Spoilers for godblight be wared

[queen laurel]

if only he manifested his power to be a better father

[near wasp]

Yeahhhh

Or you know thrown lorgar in manarchia when he glassed it

[queen laurel]

even a basic lecture would have just worked fine

[frosty stag]

So is fulgrim and cringe deamon fulgrim gonna fight or some shit

[storm jungle]

No.

Clonegrim is just a plot device forever locked away in trazyn's museum, hes not going anywhere.

[arctic talon]

Clonegrim was literally falling to chaos

so they might just become friends lol

[frosty stag]

Oh damn

[arctic talon]

also the author has stated he felt Clonegrim was a mistake

which is why he got fridged lol

[frosty stag]

Lmao

[arctic talon]

but he was in too deep

[frosty stag]

I thought the concept was cool when i heard he was cloned

[arctic talon]

by the time he realized hm fuck

[storm jungle]

its cool but like

[arctic talon]

this is an issue

[storm jungle]

fans overblew the hell out of it

when its just a mcguffin plot point

if it was anything but a primarch nobody would remember it

[arctic talon]

Yeah

Also idk why people think hes a loyalist

he's literally falling

[frosty stag]

Cant wait for the fulgrim and clonegrim romance arch

[arctic talon]

to chaos the same way as fulgrim lol

and bile realizes this

and has a oh shit moment

[frosty stag]

Yeah that makes more sense

Kinda seemed half baked ever more info i learned about it

[arctic talon]

really shows how many people read that book

it is a good book

but clonegrim is arguably the least intresting part of it

[frosty stag]

Hes the primarch of slaneesh it would make sense

I want to own all the books

But i already play the game so my wallet couldn’t handle it

[arctic talon]

the omnibus is still being sold iirc

but if you like chaos books

and want like actual evil people

but not like too comically evil

the Bile books are great

[frosty stag]

Where should i start for like lore wise

Any book?

[arctic talon]

Uhh

what are you intrested in

[frosty stag]

This is gonna sound so vague

But lore

[arctic talon]

well what part of lore

[frosty stag]

I think im autistic how hyper focuse and lore hungry i get on things i like

[arctic talon]

if you want like an overview of everyone I'm gona recomend the core rule book

bcs it has every faction

pretty much sumarized

if you want chaos books, Night Lords Trilogy, The Talon of Horus and Black Legion, Ahriman trilogy and The Bile trilogy

are my recomendations

[frosty stag]

Alrighty

The bile trilogy sounds cool i might look into that

[arctic talon]

Its got a lot of chaos stuff

its not just Emperors children

Talon of Horus and Black Legion sorta fall into bolter porn territory

same with the Night lords book

but it isn't that bad

[frosty stag]

I also really enjoy salamanders so any books containing them are good for me too

[arctic talon]

all the 40k salamander books are uh

very bad

I do not recomend reading them

[queen laurel]

He is a very based guy from what i heard

So i think you would enjoy it

[crimson kayak]

Tuchulcan engine when it gets reused by Vashtoor after decades of not being mentioned be like

[storm jungle]

Toçolka Engine my beloved

[arctic talon]

Unusually large W of GW allowing legends units in comp play as stand ins for existing units

[crimson kayak]

Legends as in 30k and stuff!

? *

[arctic talon]

Just stuff thats no longer in production

this is one of the first times they've just striaght up said you can proxy x thing as this list of stuff

[crimson kayak]

Neat

[crystal forum]

didn't know the gorgon heavy transport was a legend unit

[nocturne crest]

So here's an odd question, but which space marine gene line has the highest successor chapter to traitor warbands?

[storm jungle]

Thats a good question actually

might actually require a lexi visit... hm

[arctic talon]

Nvm

I misread

[storm jungle]

[nocturne crest]

I forgot the word ratio.

[storm jungle]

Wait so

you mean like Loyalists who have traitor roots?

not the opposite?

[uneven temple]

Probably ultrarmarines, by sheer number variety

[arctic talon]

They meant ratio

of like loyalist to traitor

which we don't have much info on

[storm jungle]

Yeah i dont think so

[uneven temple]

Yeah, my guess is through the sheer number of marines it's probably Guillimans like

[nocturne crest]

I'll give an example. Before the Primaris came about, there only one loyalist successor to the space wolves. However, there are currently 3 chaos warbands that are from the space wolves.

[storm jungle]

AH I see

[arctic talon]

Oh

[uneven temple]

There's a lot of odd chapters descended from him as it is

[arctic talon]

like loyalist sucessors to traitor warbands

Prolly space wolves pre primaris

[crystal forum]

we could start by eliminating all the founding chapters which don't have any traitor successors

[arctic talon]

They had 2 traitor war bands from them

[crystal forum]

i don't think imperial fists have any

[arctic talon]

and then 1 that was probably a traitor warband

[storm jungle]

Yeah i hate giving this answer but you might have to go to the lexicanum and search for every little chaos chapter that the wiki mentions might have traitor roots.

Because some have been mentioned in lore.

[arctic talon]

They have a few iirc

[storm jungle]

Like there was one successor chapter which got trapped on a nurgle planet

and got slowly corrupted

etc

[crystal forum]

dark angels?

[arctic talon]

Yes

one momento

brb

[crystal forum]

is there any squeaky clean chapter

[storm jungle]

they are all bad

Dark Angels also have the uhhh

The Fallen

from Transformers 2

iirc

[crystal forum]

i don't think we should count split off traitors

just successors

[arctic talon]

yeah there's a slaaneshi warband descended from the Crusaders of Dorn

[storm jungle]

Lmao

yeah the issue is

a lot of these chapters are like

1 fucking note on a codex sentence

so finding them is very difficult

theres not many famous ones

[crystal forum]

it's an interesting challenge though

[arctic talon]

Def

[crystal forum]

finding the cleanest founding chapter

[nocturne crest]

The ratio has changed now that there are primaris successors for the space wolves.

[arctic talon]

There's a death guard warband called the Dusk Raiders

[storm jungle]

Id help out with the effort but im occupied making an Attillan atm, you guys go get em

[storm jungle]

SUBTLE BTW

[arctic talon]

I think its still space wolves

but thats bcs they have like no sucessors

[crystal forum]

there's an iron hands successor chapter called iron fists

that isn't confusing at all

[nocturne crest]

They have got 3 successors thank to primaris.

[storm jungle]

Yooo

MARVEL REFERENCE?

[arctic talon]

There's 2 warbands called The Foresworn

like same name

[nocturne crest]

We just just don't know anything about them about the wolfspear.

[arctic talon]

one of them is a world eaters warband

the other is a word bearers warband

THE FUCK IS GLADIATOR GROUP 138????

oh my god their leader is called fucking "kraagon gorefist"

who has a "slaughtercrown" from khorne

[crystal forum]

i don't think iron hands have any traitor successors at all

[arctic talon]

hm

makes sense

[crystal forum]

does it?

of all loyalist founding chapters it's like the one with the least reasons to love the imperium

[nocturne crest]

But they love the admech.

Also, has anyone ever managed to make a model of their unique dreadnought carrying land raider?

[arctic talon]

They have a stick up their ass

unironically there prolly is one

but GW isn't gona name them

bcs almost all the traitor warbands in codexes boil down to

used to be loyal now traitor

[storm jungle]

google it

40k kitbashers do some crazy shit

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/745324840097153167/1131571324335181824/b62l5hys2b151.png?width=545&height=534

Witness Orktimus Prime as one example

[arctic talon]

man this guy is not having a good time lol

[storm jungle]

Oh man I have all the types of those artworks

they basically had 1 chaos marine

in that same pose

and edited it like 10 times

lmao

[crystal forum]

maybe the fact that they don't have a chapter master and instead put power to a council has a lot to do with their loyalty

[arctic talon]

Found a traitor iron hands warband

Brazen claws

[crystal forum]

we're not counting split off factions

[arctic talon]

true

but a chunk breaking off is still a chunk imo

[nocturne crest]

Seems like someone only done a cad model of it.

[storm jungle]

Damn

[nocturne crest]

Huh.

[storm jungle]

actually wait

isnt that the big 30k marine carrier?

[arctic talon]

I can't tell

[storm jungle]

ah wait nvm it isnt

i mixed it up due to the steep front

[crystal forum]

i've perused the store enough to know that this thing is originally from a 40k land raider so no

[nocturne crest]

It's just someone's interpretation.

[storm jungle]

ah yeah my bad

[crystal forum]

i prefer the horus heresy land raider so much more

[arctic talon]

they use the 40k one tho

or are you talking about the proteus

which is the Rogue trader lookin one

[crystal forum]

yeah proteus

modern land raider looks too much like a rhino

[arctic talon]

God I have never seen this thing lol

like ever

[crystal forum]

is that tau

[arctic talon]

yeah

same with this tbh

[storm jungle]

I only see these in warhammer games

like the video ones

lmao

They are cool props tho

[arctic talon]

lmao

yeah everytime I see them

they're being used as terrain

not the actual like tabletop thing

[arctic talon]

Oh my fucking god it has an upgrade sprue????

[crystal forum]

modular defences

[arctic talon]

I wonder why they don't use that tau scheme

for like their units

its a very nice sandy color

[storm jungle]

post that one which sounds like a star wars character

aka Tidewall Gunrig™️

[storm jungle]

based

literally in this case i guess

[nocturne crest]

Huh. I wonder if the fist exemplar got reborn when the primaris came out, like the soul drinkers did.

[crystal forum]

and the lamentors

kind of a cheap out by GW to have them magically recover their numbers

[storm jungle]

Checking and nope

very weird because they aren't a one-note Chapter either

lol

[nocturne crest]

Well, they did get disbanded after a company signed up with the iron warriors.

[arctic talon]

Far from the worst thing a marine chapter has done

[storm jungle]

they simply did a little bit of trolling

[keen stratus]

I still cant get over the fact that Dilara is a warhammer fan AND a woman, i tought those conditions repelled each other

[winter vessel]

Tf is that a toilet lid?

[arctic talon]

No

its like a drone docking port

[storm jungle]

Ive been a fan since like 2008 and going strong ✊

The best way to love warhammer is to also hate it

[winter vessel]

sounds like my relationship with Destiny 2

[keen stratus]

FUHHH, thanks for taking as a joke, i said it without realizing, and the i just hit me the repercussions it could have gone, thanks for understanding the joke

fuhh

i just had shitty day and didnt tought it that much

thanks

[storm jungle]

Lmao its a common joke i get its okay

its funny because its also true 💀

[keen stratus]

yeah sorry i have a lot of shit going on, im sick, i have to study for a final, light cutted in my town today for 4 hours and its hot

[storm jungle]

Its alright dude, you cool

[keen stratus]

a lot of shit going on

[nocturne crest]

So how much flavour is there within the dark mechanicus?

[storm jungle]

Basically anything and everything

they are allowed to invent and do whatever they want but the authors just stick to

"PUT DAEMON INTO ROBOT"

They suffer a bit from barely being explored in the lore unfortunately so kinda fall into generic pitfalls.

[arctic talon]

Tbh that is the best way to get something to work

[storm jungle]

Ok Steve Jobs

[keen stratus]

Ok so i have a question

if you kill a lot, but like A LOT, like a changoos amount, were talking warhammer amounts here, but you get morbid pleasure out of it, wold that be Khornate or Slaneeshi?

[storm jungle]

A big part of it is why are you fighting?

Do you love the thrill of putting yourself in mortal danger? Do you care more about proving you're the best by winning the fight than actually killing your enemy? Do you show off when you fight, with lots of flashy moves that are more about looking cool than being effective? Do you get hard at the thought of feeling the vibrations through the handle of your weapon as it cuts through flesh and snags on bone? Do you look at combat injuries as a nice little bonus instead of something to be avoided?

If you answered yes to any of these, you're probably empowering Slaanesh when you fight.

On the other hand, do you love to just RIP AND TEAR? Do you think the blood of your enemies is the only acceptable paint color? Does being a better warrior only matter to you in the context of killing more dudes? Have you ever killed someone just because you thought they had a neat skull? Are guns, magic, tactics, strategy, mercy, and reasonably sized melee weapons only for pussies?

If you answer yes to any of these, then Khorne is probably your dude.

[keen stratus]

Right so this makes me realize something

games workshop probably invented khorne first

and then the rest of chaos gods

and thats why he is kinda basic in comparasson

[summer rover]

the first three were khorne, nurgle and malal

[keen stratus]

(and also thanks, but next time you dont have to write a fucking bible, like jesus chirst are you ok?)

[storm jungle]

I just like lore

[summer rover]

khorne was basically just a bargin sale khaine though, he was also in the book.

[keen stratus]

Least dedicated warhammer fan

[storm jungle]

legit

also dont listen to Orin thats not how it is

Basically all 4 chaos gods were made together way back when

like if you mean as a product for the lore obviously

none of them really came after each other, all 4 were written together for a release on the narrative when warhammer was first around

[summer rover]

bookwise, tzeentch and slaanesh are a year and change later.

5

all 5

malal was a core part of it.

being the "undivided chaos" element.

[storm jungle]

no he wasnt

[keen stratus]

Right, so this make me realize what i could turn into if i keep reading warhammer

like geez louis, this bitch is pulling out some tzeentch shit right here

[summer rover]

you either become insufferable, or you stop taking it seriously.

i chose the righteous path of jokey banter.

and yes, malal was

[storm jungle]

He didnt exist when Realm of Chaos came out

so no

[summer rover]

he existed before realm of chaos, in the RPG with khorne and nurgle

that's the older book.

[keen stratus]

Ok, so who is this malal guy and why is he lookin me good?

[summer rover]

he's legally forbidden from appearing in GW products due to GW trying a little too hard to not pay their writers at the time, but he's also the chaos god of chaos.

[storm jungle]

That comic series is old af and nobody here is old enough to probably even remember it.

Neither him or even ya boi Kaleb Daark

either way when the chaos gods were first made he wasnt a part of the big 4 so that shoves him straight into the dumpster bin that is the warp

[summer rover]

he believes there's not supposed to be any chaos gods or any hieachey within chaos and is in an endless bitchfit about it trying to kill the other four.

[keen stratus]

Wait, so that means that all the chaos gods are his bitches'

[storm jungle]

Not really

Malal is kinda stupid as a concept too

[summer rover]

no, but also yes, but again no.

[storm jungle]

its why he went nowhere, well that and copyright

that and hes weak

[summer rover]

malal is the core of what makes chaos work, though.

[keen stratus]

Me when someone asks me if theres good guys on warhammer:

[storm jungle]

hes so integral that nobody remembers he even exists

[summer rover]

which is sort of the problem for chaos. it doesn't work if you math it out without the element of pure chaos, which is malal, but because you can't have a malal without GW having to address legal nonsense the hole remains.

[storm jungle]

like hes basically a meme

also not that deep either

[summer rover]

oh like chaos players care if they operate on plotholes.

[storm jungle]

They kinda do

and it has nothing to do with plotholes

he just doesnt matter

[summer rover]

i never said he mattered. none of the chaos gods mattered,

[storm jungle]

They clearly do

mfers get their own codexes and shit

also armies

and rules

[summer rover]

you could replace them every couple years and nobody would care.

[storm jungle]

They would

lmao

[summer rover]

that's not importance, that's just being legally salable.

[storm jungle]

the big 4 have been a part of the setting since almost warhammer was made

also it is importance

people like the Big 4's schticks

changing them basically would make no sense

[summer rover]

if GW owned malal we'd have a crapton of product for him.

[storm jungle]

and they didnt because copyright

so now hes in limbo

[keen stratus]

So basically youre saying that chaos cant have order?

[summer rover]

according to malal, no. according to selling plastic toys, they can.

[storm jungle]

Malal is just not around because they just didn't want to invest anything in some rando deity.

So into the bin he goes

🗑️

[summer rover]

you mean they don't want to lose a lawsuit.

[storm jungle]

They wouldnt

its some guy vs a company

the entire thing with legal cases is just hiring the best lawyer

[keen stratus]

Sometimes i just fucking hate capitalism

[summer rover]

the law is pretty much settled, if they try to claim him they have to either buy him off the guy or get hit with the eaiset lawsuit in the world. dudes will happily do it on contingency just to shit on GW.

[storm jungle]

Okay but like again who cares

They arent going to

[keen stratus]

~~(and england) ~~

[summer rover]

and GW's famous for being skinflints.

[storm jungle]

You already have an entire range with the 4 chaos gods that make money.

Why go for some edgy side-project

[summer rover]

slaanesh is "some edgy side-project"

[storm jungle]

Not really, again.

[keen stratus]

Because theyre british?

[keen stratus]

Never subestimate the internets horniness

[storm jungle]

Chaos in its general is fun because its edgy though so its also kind of missing the point.

[summer rover]

no, because they've got the most dumbass businessmen in the hobby industry.

chaos is arguably entirely missing the point as a faction.

[storm jungle]

Its really not.

I feel like you are just having another hot take moment

about the same reign as "GW is hiding their sales from stockholders"

[keen stratus]

I mean, im not into tabletop, but if i had the money, i will buy this good looking fella, to have it in a shelf

[summer rover]

i feel like you're unwilling to accept chaos is a really stupid faction in context of warhammer itself, but is popular due to imaging.

[storm jungle]

Im not unwilling to accept anything

chaos does its job fine

[summer rover]

man i pity anyone dumb enough to try to paint that thing as their first mini

[storm jungle]

they are interdimensional evil gods with crazy mortal followers

its really not that deep

theres no point to it

its a plastic toy game

lmao

[keen stratus]

(reminds him that dilara is a mod, and she can be a mean bitch if she wants to)

[storm jungle]

💀

anyway

Also the entire reason they even exist is GW was just ripping off Michael Moorcock at the time

and it just stuck

Same as how they just stole the chaos star because yolo

[summer rover]

if a mod slaps me with infractions because they're losing an argument, it looks worse for them than me.

[storm jungle]

Im not losing anything but alright

[keen stratus]

Yes but again, this is discord, and this crazy ass bitch demonstrated some passion, never doubt her

[summer rover]

it's funny how lawsuit happy GW is given all their works are mostly counting on nobody bigger noticing and suing them for infringement.

[storm jungle]

I mean thats how business works?

Money is money

At the end of the day its their product

[summer rover]

skirting the law is usually very stupid business. it's mostly that the hobby industry doesn't go noticed by most other industries.

[keen stratus]

(and theyre british)(im argentinian)

[storm jungle]

You can copyright stuff as long as you change a few minor things.

GW has done it for a long time and has gotten pretty good at it.

[summer rover]

i mean i wouldn't say good. practiced.

[storm jungle]

same reason how when they sell LOTR minis they include a trademark in almost every unit name since it doesnt belong to their company

I mean it doesnt matter if its good

its their product still

and money has to come from somewhere

[keen stratus]

Isnt there a faction that is straight a copy from terminator?

[storm jungle]

Nah

The necrons terminator thing was more just an influence that got dropped fast.

[keen stratus]

and one they created just to sell figures to gundam fans?

[storm jungle]

Tau?

Kinda?

The eastern market appeal never really went through with them since anyone just bought them instead.

It was pretty funny.

[summer rover]

early necrons were, now they're a mishmash of the lefotover tomb king ideas and a couple 80s novels novody's read.

[keen stratus]

https://youtube.com/shorts/2qg0ex4NAlA?feature=share

[storm jungle]

And people love em still

they pretty much have gotten their own identity

the tomb king thing doesnt go much beyond the egyptian aesthetics

[keen stratus]

Is the imperium ripped from somewhere?

[storm jungle]

Yes

everywhere lol

Mostly just influenced from IRL fascist regimes with catholic rome

and anything else GW just threw in for aesthetics

[summer rover]

although to be fair, briton had a wierd thing for catholic rome so that could have just be to sell minis.

[keen stratus]

(this infomration makes me wonder why warhammer is even populat tbh)

[summer rover]

BLIND LUCK

[storm jungle]

It wasnt really to sell minis

it was just to parody a corrupt church system

the ecclesiarchy was always cringe

the general cathedral aesthetic tho was simply because it looked cool

[echo vault]

Im fairly surprised the empire in Warhammer fantasy isn't more British, they stuck to the German/Holy Roman empire thing pretty well

[storm jungle]

Its a mish mash of every sort of thing in fiction genre wise, it attracts people from that.

[summer rover]

all their competitors at the time suddenly came down with a bad case of "goddamn idiots" and destroyed themselves so warhammer had no real competition for about a decade and by then they were too big to take on.

[keen stratus]

and so im a moron if i like the videogames?

[storm jungle]

I mean no

that means you are smart

dont buy minis from GW and go broke

[vast heart]

Kinda. They're closer to an Undead skeleton army faction the terminator thing is more visual and they pulled back pretty hard on it later

[storm jungle]

Yeah the terminator thing really didnt last long

now its just a leftover "cool" aspect thing

[keen stratus]

You did?

[storm jungle]

No lmao

i dont give a crap about minis

im here for lore

[vast heart]

I can't believe you'd say that in front of my sloppity bilepiper

[keen stratus]

Ok so you see, thats why i find being a woman and a warhammer fan incompatible, bad financial managmente is a dudes thing tbh

[summer rover]

i can't even tell if that's a real unit.

[storm jungle]

it is

and its great

[summer rover]

chaos players standards are so low....

[storm jungle]

god shut up

lmao

[summer rover]

this is just a soccer fan.

[storm jungle]

I mean yes?

[keen stratus]

WHAT THE HECK IM A LOOKING AT

[storm jungle]

Nurgle bagpipe player

hes gonna bring you joy by giving you acidic death disease

[summer rover]

what happens when the sculptors don't recieve their hourly beatings.

[storm jungle]

Its a good mini

stop being a downer

[keen stratus]

I have a question, what the heck is a noise marine?

[storm jungle]

its a space marine devoted to slaanesh

[summer rover]

marine that likes noise.

[storm jungle]

they blast you with sonic weapons

[keen stratus]

And how is that related to slaanesh at all?

[storm jungle]

the sensation of sound mostly

[summer rover]

well, they blast away with sonic weapons and presumably you have to fight them.

[storm jungle]

Slaanesh is about excess which can be anything

[summer rover]

their choice of sound is mostly heavy metal and such.

the old ones had super guitars. for some reason it was deemed more silly than awesome

[storm jungle]

and its not, its just ear-rupturing noises and daemonic "music" which cant really be put into any category as per the books for the most part

[summer rover]

which is wrong

[storm jungle]

they'll get an update at some point this year though so thats good at least

[summer rover]

really the "that's no real music them kids play" joke overshooting people keeps surprising me.

[keen stratus]

(as its natural on slaanesh)

[storm jungle]

You also really need to read more into Slaanesh

and forgo the whole "shes just about sex" thing

[keen stratus]

Ok so yure telling me that if fall down the stairs and that hurts A LOT, that can be slaaneshi?

[storm jungle]

no lmao

[summer rover]

i mean...

did you do it on purpose?

[storm jungle]

it has to be about excess

if you deliberately hurt yourself then yeah

[keen stratus]

Im telling, you it hurts me in excess

[storm jungle]

and get enjoyment out of it? Thats when it starts

[keen stratus]

ah ok

[storm jungle]

If you enjoy it then yeah

[winter vessel]

The sonic blaster of a noise marine is actually whispering three words every time its fired. "Raid Shadow Legends".

[storm jungle]

banned

[summer rover]

so modding a server for free because you like it could count as service to slaanesh.

[storm jungle]

I dont enjoy it

so no

[summer rover]

[storm jungle]

its more like Khorne

[winter vessel]

how about an Excess of Hoarding minis you have to paint?

[keen stratus]

So why havent you killed us yet? no, its tzeench

[storm jungle]

because im lazy

[summer rover]

banning me is pointless anyways, more of me will show up.

[keen stratus]

Thats slaaneshi

[storm jungle]

Depends

if you are wallowing in sloth then yeah

[summer rover]

nurgle is sloth do to apathy, slaanesh is sloth as amusement.

tzeentch ins sloth as a means of provoking others

khorne is gonna get mad if you ain't out killing.

[winter vessel]

I'm surprised there isn't a model or artwork of a fat Slaaneshi worshiper. Like, wouldn't an excess of eating "the finest" foods count towards it?

[storm jungle]

For example look at this lad

his name is literally "Glutos"

[winter vessel]

oh I spoke too soon

[summer rover]

i hate that models so much, no business being a tabletop unit.

[storm jungle]

shut up again

lmao

basically any creativity is bad to you

[summer rover]

it's a friggin' diorama!

[storm jungle]

ITS A SPECIAL CHARACTER

[winter vessel]

should rename the mini to Nikocadus

[storm jungle]

God

the worst part is it actually fits

[crisp heath]

Fellas, I’m still new to the whole 40k thing but from what I gathered so far, angron was kinda gonna turn out and join chaos or otherwise end up as a failure for the emperor no matter what the emperor did

Is that right?

[storm jungle]

Yep

the Emperor could not save him from the nails

he oversaw him on a literal medical slab

[lyric gyro]

What’s the line between model and diorama? Wouldn’t something with a tactical rock or decorated base be a diorama?

[summer rover]

eh, if he didn't turn chaos he woulda turned traitor regardless.

[crisp heath]

Even if he did save his friends too I think Angrons hate of slavers and overlords would make him despise the emperor over time anyway

Further by the nails

[storm jungle]

Pretty much that yeah

Angron just became broken because of the nails instead which is the only drastic difference

[crisp heath]

Poor guy never had a chance

[storm jungle]

Angron in M42 is basically nothing now

just a monster

[summer rover]

diorama has to depecit an enclosed scene. a dude standing on a chariot is not a diorama because there's no internal context. this dude is literally on a big platfrom having lunch, which does not involved any outside context.

[winter vessel]

He was ready to die. then Lorgar went " Ayyyy my brother, Im gonna do some magics to make sure I can save you."

[crisp heath]

He’s one hell of a force of nature now though

[lyric gyro]

Angron would have either forced the Emperor to kill him or died from the nails a couple decades after the HH began imo

[storm jungle]

thats the lore yea

He had no chance

[summer rover]

i mean. russ probably woulda done it before the nails got him, knowing how they used the wolves back then.

[storm jungle]

Russ literally could not even kill Horus

he fucking spared him

he did the same to Angron too

[lyric gyro]

I think he was about to die when Logan began the ritual to turn him into a daemon Primarch

[storm jungle]

they fought and then just fucking LEFT

[crisp heath]

Russ might not have killed him

[lyric gyro]

Not sure though, I’ll listen to Betrayer for the tenth time and get back to you

[winter vessel]

I'm just wishing Angron could die, out of pity for the poor bastard

[crisp heath]

Russ and the wolves together though

[summer rover]

they wrote that after they wrote the bige finale that has horus in it, so it was more the editors stepping and going "uh, actually you can't hurt him at this point".

[storm jungle]

Have you read any of the Arks of Omen books

[fair cobalt]

wasn't russ the primarch designed to kill other primarchs or am i thinking of another

[storm jungle]

[summer rover]

ehhh....

[winter vessel]

Only the one where Farsight is trying to not go crazy with the blood god whispering in his ear

[lyric gyro]

Yeah but he couldn’t kill Angron. Plus the World Eaters beat the Space Wolves

Because they killed more space wolves than they lost

[fair cobalt]

I know, i was just curious if i remembered that right

[storm jungle]

Watch arbitrator ian's recaps they are great

But the Angron book involves Angron going in to destroy a Dark Age of Technology device called the Choral Engine, its making a MASSIVE psychic noise in Angron's ears and theres an apocalpytic scale battle as he reaches the center of the device

He kills a shit ton of grey knights

And is about to destroy it

and he is HOPING

it finally fucking kills him

As he destroys it and it blows up killing him with it he just respawns later on

[winter vessel]

Choral Engine: "Death? You want it? It's yours my friend!"

[storm jungle]

LITERALLY

[fair cobalt]

well the grey knights were close to killing him no?

[crisp heath]

Dude got that Spider-Man luck

[storm jungle]

Almost

[fair cobalt]

they set a trap for him

and almost got him

[storm jungle]

like im not kidding when i say it was a massive fight

and yeah angron's plot armor came in clutch

why?

[crisp heath]

No universe where he can catch a break

[storm jungle]

they realised hes a named character

no chance

[fair cobalt]

man literally too angry to die

[storm jungle]

Before he destroys the Engine he also feels Khorne's literal presence behind him too

[winter vessel]

Eh fuck ‘em, only thing I don’t like more than the Ultramarines are the Grey Knights. So if they got pounded I’m all for it

[vast heart]

You are looking at a key player in what will eventually become my large Maraviglia inspired concert diorama

[storm jungle]

excuse me

dont you like the 666th chapter

whos recruits go through 666 trials

and only 1 out of 1000 recruits survive?

[vast heart]

I just need several thousand dollars in printed plastic and acrylic paint

[storm jungle]

actual lore btw

[crisp heath]

Can’t wait for the lion and ghaz to WWE Tag team angron

“Oh he’s got the steel chair!”

[vast heart]

God I deeply desire emps children to get a refresh Fulgrim is my favourite primarch aside from magnus

[fair cobalt]

and the Lion is on the top ropes!

[storm jungle]

I loved the part where Lion El'johnson showed up and El Johnson'd all over the place

[vast heart]

The part where the lion no longer sleeps tonight

[crisp heath]

I don’t wanna get Johnson’d

Keep that away from me

[winter vessel]

I just don’t like it when they go “That’s one less loose end” to anyone not affiliated with them if they fend off a Chaos Incursion. And that ain’t the dumbest training procedure: looks at Exorcists chapter doing another Daemon possession

[vast heart]

can we all acknowledge that they did they on purpose

The Lion has the dumbest loyalist "death" leading into 40k

[storm jungle]

Yeah its fucking moronic

[fair cobalt]

I really want the clone of fulgrim to face off against demon fulgrim and see what's happenedd to his chapter

[vast heart]

he legit just takes a long ass nap for seemingly no reason

[storm jungle]

I love it

its stupid as shit

[crisp heath]

Seepy

If you live for that long

[winter vessel]

Then there was that whole Blood thing the G Knights did with the Sisters of Battle

[crisp heath]

You gotta take POWER naps

[fair cobalt]

he's bill from L4D

just too tired of all of it

[storm jungle]

You know its bad when GW literally retcons the next edition

also based Left 4,000 reference

https://tenor.com/view/bill-gif-18513211

cigarette jumpscare btw watch out

[winter vessel]

Bring back Obi-Wan-Sherlock, a name that sounds like it was written in a Fanfic Novel

[storm jungle]

he has been referenced actually lol

only by his first letters tho

[winter vessel]

Ah nah😂

[crystal forum]

what coincidence that im playing that right now

[crisp heath]

Does angron ever catch a break?

Like any point in his life where something actually works out in their favor

[vast heart]

I'm gonna give a definitive "no"

[crisp heath]

Damn

[winter vessel]

Look at his art works. Does that look like the kind of guy that catches a break?

[vast heart]

Angron is a shakespearean tragedy

But a lot more "shake spear" than anything

[storm jungle]

Angron ironically

[vast heart]

He was meant to be the healer

[storm jungle]

is a slave to everyone

first the Imperium then to Chaos

except for the latter he has no escape

[winter vessel]

Anakin:”First time?”

[storm jungle]

unless someone true death's him

[crisp heath]

You think khorne cares for angron more then emperor?

[winter vessel]

Yeah somebody give this man a permadeath, he is just suffering

[crisp heath]

Or both just see him as a tool

[vast heart]

He basically had the ability to face tank other peoples emotions and he seemingly existed for the purpose of soothing primarchs like Conrad

They they fucking lobomized him

[storm jungle]

Bruh

hes literally an evil eldritch god

mfer does not give a single shit

Best part is Khorne also wanted Sanguinius not Angron

[winter vessel]

But at least he’s honest compared to the other three. I choose getting killed by him than the alternatives

[crisp heath]

Character development-> Character development-> Character development->

[vast heart]

If anything I'd say Khorne would kinda look down on Angron for being pathetic despite enjoying the carnage

[storm jungle]

^

like hes basically an elite pokemon to khorne nothing more

[vast heart]

Angron doesn't really have a sense of honour or fairness he's just hulk with two chainaxes

[storm jungle]

thats the best comparison i can make

also yeah that

like by M41 hes literally an animal

in his fight with Lion he says nothing

like he doesnt even remember him

LMAO

[winter vessel]

He’s the equivalent of a tractor driving across wheat crops to collect

Man cleaves through his enemies

[storm jungle]

just make the drive Alex Jones

https://tenor.com/view/alex-jones-alexjones-yell-scream-gif-25664483

[vast heart]

Khorne would have rathered Russ than Angron lol

[crisp heath]

I don’t think any of khrones dudes have honor

[winter vessel]

He wanted Sanguinius tho did he not?

[storm jungle]

yeah no they dont

[storm jungle]

Yup

and its not a theory either

[green loom]

I think khorne straight up laughs at him in echoes

[storm jungle]

literally EVERY khorne daemon in the heresy

wants to corrupt sangy

[winter vessel]

Khorne looks at Sanguinius: “MMMHHmm that blood looking mighty fine, boy”

[storm jungle]

[crisp heath]

Is it because of the blood rage thing

[storm jungle]

also I cannot believe

Sanguinius and Angron fought in the Siege

and Sanguinius went:

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914161923334214/1123609358052376706/yes.gif

sorry Angron maybe next time

[crisp heath]

Dr Manhattan moment

[green loom]

Best part is he does it after deleting Kabandha

[storm jungle]

its the fucking pause before the slap that gets me

[crystal forum]

angron not even being that good in combat for a primarch would be the funniest irony ever

[winter vessel]

It’s that one anime trope where they edgelord blade master walks by his opponent who challenges him and in a single frame cut the opponent is cut to shreds

[vast heart]

"Ay yo Kabanda: tell your homies who mcfucking sent you back" - Sanguinious thundercock m32

[storm jungle]

yeah Sanguinius is canonically aware that he has plot armor during the siege

its why he charges into everything

its fucking great

[green loom]

He's not that good, he's lost every fight he's had except against guilliman and Russ

[winter vessel]

Like Minecraft, his plot armor durability was weak when fighting Horus. He didn’t have enchantments

[crisp heath]

He can’t think tactically

[crystal forum]

kinda expected for a guy who's entire tactic is beat everything with a club

[vast heart]

Sang is like the young anime protag

[storm jungle]

the Emperor probably had an enchantment table hidden somewhere

[crisp heath]

All other primarchs are doing crazy calculations in their heads during fights

Angron just “fuck it we ball”

[vast heart]

He's gonna win by bashing his power-of-friendship-buffed forehead against everything

[green loom]

Well I wouldn't say all

[storm jungle]

Angron is just alex jones

again

[green loom]

But some don't have literally just "red" as the entirety of their thoughts

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[crystal forum]

angron is a joke without his demonic powers and god given body

[storm jungle]

thats so sad

[winter vessel]

Much as I love Vulkan, if another Primarch were to come back, I’d want Jaghatai. He’s going X games mode somewhere in the Webway

[crisp heath]

YEAH

THE KHAN IS THE MAN

[vast heart]

I fkn love the khan

But lowkey I wanna see the warp crow

[crisp heath]

Vulkan was in the beast book anyway

[vast heart]

Give us a loyal daemon primarch goddamnit

[crisp heath]

Bring back the king of sass

We will never hear the khans voice in TTS

And that’s a tragedy

[nocturne crest]

Is there any chaos space marines who use xeno weapons, apart from Fulgrim's boys?

[keen stratus]

Ok, so quick question, what i know abut this fulgrim guy is that he was an emperor child, but he wanted some slanussy and turned wrong right?

[vast heart]

He got a suspiciously shaped sword that spoke to him

It had a slaanesh daemon in it

[nocturne crest]

And implanted some xeno tech in his space marines. As well.

[keen stratus]

Wait, does the sword really looks like a?

[vast heart]

Fulgrim was always vain asf and a massive perfectionist so Slaanesh won him over eventually tho Fulgrim technically stays loyal for a long time before he's just too far gone

[vast heart]

Kinda yea

[keen stratus]

Not really, its just scymithar

[vast heart]

Nah the handle in most artwork is drawn different

[keen stratus]

Like this?

[vast heart]

Yeah basically

[keen stratus]

ok, if you think this dirty youre straight up sick

but now that i see it it kinda.....

fuck, slaanesh is getting on my mind, that good looking femboys working

[arctic talon]

Really funny how the laerblade is a power sword

And not some weird magical sword

[nocturne crest]

So yeah, any chance of Chaos pulling a deathwatch and using hand held xeno weapons.

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[echo vault]

That version is cooler

I like that style of blade that's used in other Warhammer things

[spiral linden]

Quick one

Doing some homebrew wanna check summin

Dark angels when they had a home world

Was it basically medevil era

[echo vault]

Ye just with chaos monsters too

Sucked to live on but it was like king Arthur but more sci Fi, like just below the imperium

[frosty stag]

What do purity seals do except make me mad when im painting

[celest dome]

Nothing

They just are medals

[molten brook]

perturabo did nothing wrong

prove me wrong fuckers

also

rogal dorn is a daddys boy simp

rogal is also extremely autistic, in the lack of social awareness type of way in comparison to perty so

big L

perty is a whiny bitch but at least he knows what is going on

[frosty stag]

Oh cool

[celest dome]

IW fans are really the weirdest bunch

[polar barn]

you know who else didnt? konrad

[molten brook]

ok but konrad was an actual terrorist so.....

@polar barn

[polar barn]

ok and?

[molten brook]

you tell me how perturabo was even close to konrad and ill listen to you

until then

[green loom]

From Hammer of Olympia

[polar barn]

I never said anything about perturabo

[stuck kernel]

ok here's something I been thinking about. So the Moebian 6th was apparently a specialized Imperial regiment before the corruption.
Does that mean they had dedicated units with webguns before that too? I guess for capturing high value targets or something? Or did that come after the Nurgle corruption.

And are netters/trappers even a thing in Imperial guard? 😄

[celest dome]

The netter are based on a GSC mini

But Netter are something that you can obtain in the various rpg

[storm jungle]

Also Imperial guard regiments can basically model themselves after any doctrine.

This is mostly for tabletop homebrew freedom reasons

[green loom]

And also the fight's been going a while

And they're being corrupted by chaos

Which has a nasty side effect of driving people insane

So unit cohesion and stuff will probably break down and you'll see random stuff popping up

[terse flume]

the trapper is a weirdly chill chaos cultist

like i've spent a lot of time staring at her from the floor and i'm not even sure she's angry? very giggly

[storm jungle]

Shes VERY excited about her job

if you look closer at her model you can see all the skulls she collected and also a big ass flaying knife on her back lmao

[celest dome]

I can fix her

[crimson kayak]

Warp ghosts use too technologically advanced stuff for the 40k universe, but that's due to time travel shenanigans more than xenotech

[nocturne crest]

I see.

The Warp Ghosts should get their own rule set

[crimson kayak]

Scab bruisers literally the embodiment of we had two sticks and a rock, and we had to share the rock

Nah, warp ghosts should stay misteryous and a footnote

They would break so much shit if you would get literal time traveling mastering skinwalkers

On the center stage

Kinda like how the legion of the damned lost much of their appeal after they were said to be just the Fire Hawks going batshit insane

[terse flume]

and yet she never stabs me. i wonder if that's a hint

[storm jungle]

[crimson kayak]

That's... Actually true

[storm jungle]

Jokes aside its obviously for gameplay reasons but still

[crimson kayak]

Yeah BoN still best one for the dating sim after all

[storm jungle]

[crimson kayak]

Get some old arbites, you saw nothing back there

[storm jungle]

I really do like how much their design language didnt change at all

[pliant horizon]

ok so let me get this straight

ogryn and vet are both usually either former guard, gangers, or both. Ok makes sense, the inquisition always needs a keen eye and some muscle to do their dirty work.

Psykers? They're officially sectioned and trained to not summon warp horrors and fight for the inquisition, a very usefully asset

Zealots...? They're like... Just some real angry dudes? A lot of them are preists or shrine workers so like.... former civilians basicity? Who are just really staby and loud.

Do I got that right?

[near wasp]

Honestly i have not seen anything indicating that our psykers are sanctioned.

[pliant horizon]

[celest dome]

As far as we know they are Zealous and possibly from the Ministorum

And yes, there is thing that could point toward our psyker not really being sanctioned

[near wasp]

Other than that yeah your pretty much right.

The psyker is just a wildcard (as all psykers are)

[pliant horizon]

well I hadn't considered that about the psyker lmao

[stuck kernel]

speaking of sanctioned psykers, I am trying to put together a coherent background for the Savant, with the background options we have.

We know they were Enforcers... so if I am getting it right, they probably ended up getting captured first, sent to the psyker school (forgot the fancy name) and THEN became Enforcers?

or what is the most likely scenario here for a Savant?

[near wasp]

Adeptus astra telepathica

I think

I play seer psyker so i dont know anything about the savant

[stuck kernel]

ok I booted up the game to look through the backgrounds. Most of the Psykers' "Defining moments" ends up with them being sent to Scholastia Psykana after getting captured

there is even a Black Ships option, but like... they would NOT return from that journey, no?

[near wasp]

Not all of the psykkers in blackships go to the throne. Ones with potential are given to the psykana

[stuck kernel]

I see, I see. That makes more sense then

[near wasp]

Them getting sent there was very likely ON a black ship

[stuck kernel]

so I guess the most logical timeline for a Savant would be getting sent to psykana -> become sanctioned -> get sent to Atoma to become an enforcer -> and then get jailed for one of those 4 "crimes" we can pick?

tbh, I kinda hate how limited Savant's background is with all this enforcer stuff. I should have picked Seer or Loner for less RP headache

[near wasp]

Im pretty sure the seer is not sanctioned. Dude is unstable

[storm jungle]

Loner and Seer are deffo way more character rich yeah

Its why i went with Loner personally

[queen laurel]

went with savant, probably because I needed more brain cells because I kept picking loose cannon and brawler

Considering that those two are arguably the lowest brain cell count on their respective class

[coarse pumice]

Seer is coolest

[near wasp]

Cadian vet, seer psyker, bully ogryn, cant remeber the names of the zealots

[coarse pumice]

Fanatic is the Scottish one

[near wasp]

I think i use the judge

I dont play zealot much

[crimson kayak]

zealots are really just that, zealots

really preachy, really loud, lived under the ministorum control/has a fervent adhesion to the imperial cult

[queen laurel]

They are basically paladins that are really really really really ******* loud

And they don't tank they kill

[crimson kayak]

yep, but without everything you need to properly be a paladin

[queen laurel]

Which might make them a religious berserker

[crimson kayak]

a beggar could make a good zealot if he's really fervent and eloquent for what we know

(also technically there's the whole Frateris militia thing, so you can technically be of military origin too)

[nocturne crest]

Are Redemptionists approved or disapproved by the Imperium?

[crimson kayak]

Necromunda exclusive as far as im aware, but it's not impossible that similar cults already spread up inside other imperial worlds

[celest dome]

One that aren't too dangerous are sent to the Telepatica. The more dangerous one are sent to the Throne. With some being sent to more rarer places.

[celest dome]

Necromunda lore state that the Redemptionist (which mostly control House Cawdor have allies outworld)

[crimson kayak]

just checked again, other redemptionist cults exist already, and the approval rate is entirely based on who you ask, your local governor may hate them, the local priest could love them and use them for a proxy war the next day

[celest dome]

They aren't really considered to be unique

[versed ledge]

I wish I can be as seductive as Slaanesh or Tzeentch

[nocturne crest]

Out of curiousity, but can only space marines drive their vehicles like land raiders and rhinos?

[celest dome]

No, most of the time they have Chapter Serfs that take care of their vehicles

[arctic talon]

Nah they’re drivable by normal humans

[winter vessel]

Yeah, Sororitas have their own Rhinos to drive

[nocturne crest]

So should Admech have their own rhinos then?

[celest dome]

Yes, but they have better stuff

Like lesser Forges worlds use them most lively

[crimson kayak]

tbh i want to see an iron leg and iron angel model

also yeah the mechanicus has a fashination for building vehicles with legs for their own use

they really don't like being practical when your foot soldier can literally force march across a continent without stopping

[winter vessel]

see exhibit: Iron Strider

[arctic talon]

They have alternatives but yeah the rhino is a thing they can use

Skitarii don’t complain about marching for days with little to no rest

If they really need a transport dune riders exist

[crimson kayak]

yep, or the horses, or the dunecrawler, or the atrax walker

[crimson kayak]

also yeah this

[arctic talon]

If you're wondering why its open topped it has an energy shield

refractor field

more specifically

[winter vessel]

I love how this design is based off of the Higgins boat landing craft back in WW2

[crimson kayak]

also this is already basically their rhino as it has even tank variants

[arctic talon]

Its very fun

The biggest downside of the Skorpius is that its a hover craft

which means its high maintenance

but the mechanicus is the last group to complain about fixing things

[crimson kayak]

wich tbf is just the mechanicus standard

[arctic talon]

True

but at the end of the day forgeworlds usually use whatevery they have on hand

[crimson kayak]

see the literal walkers that can't stop moving or else they don't know how to restart them

[arctic talon]

and Skitarii really don't give a shit about long distance marches so they don't use ground transports

a majority of the time

[winter vessel]

Which is just their motto from an ancient human history figure: "It just works".

[arctic talon]

yeah

lol

[nocturne crest]

They need to use the rocket version of inspiration.

[arctic talon]

there's also this thing from forgeworld

thats based on the Higgins

it costs an arm and a leg

[queen laurel]

Let me guess they aren't going to try to reverse engineer the damn thing

[arctic talon]

They have tried

the tech priest who made it left fail safes

as in the engine explodes

[queen laurel]

I mean fair precaution but Jesus Christ

[crimson kayak]

the downside of literally building a perpetual motion machine

[winter vessel]

That little extension on the front of it reminds me of the Sherman Crab Flail Tank

[arctic talon]

Like it has some sort of nuclear component to it

and that component is rigged to blow

if you remove the wrong thing

[nocturne crest]

Shame they can't just use freeze the explosion like some space marines can do.

[arctic talon]

Which the mechanicus is 99% sure is intentional

Now granted maybe it is accidental but with the amount of people that have blown themselves up trying to figure out how to make it

It probably isn’t worth it

[queen laurel]

You know what fine let the damn Turkey destroy the enemies

[arctic talon]

Tbh

The tech priest who made it struck a literal goldmine

Too bad he died before he could really set up more production lol

[crystal forum]

gorgo

[arctic talon]

did you know it used to come with like 60 DKOK minis lol

but they stopped doing it bcs they couldn't sell any infantry kits

[crystal forum]

holy shit

[arctic talon]

ultimate value amiright lol

[celest dome]

Anybody has a Psyker from lore in their head that use techniques from multiple disciplines?

[summer rover]

d'you think psykers in the stories last long enough for us to know?

i think the only example would be that inquisitor in ephrial stern and that might have just been writer confusion.

[celest dome]

But no lore state that Psyker are restricted from using techniques from only 1 discipline. Like I'm getting down voted on reddit from saying that a Biomancy based weapon shouldn't be restricted to a Biomancer (and Surge already is one)

[storm jungle]

is this r40klore

[green loom]

Joemancer

[celest dome]

Sadly no. I don't go there anymore. It was in the Darktide sub. But looking at that thread I also have a comment saying that the 2h Power Sword will most likely be for the vet which is in the negative

[storm jungle]

Oh god

im so sorry

[celest dome]

I was banned on my previous account from 40k lore iirc

[storm jungle]

How.

[green loom]

I want to see what kind of mental gymnastics it takes to say the 2h power sword won't be vet

[storm jungle]

I mean the darktide subreddit is just a toxic swamp

[crystal forum]

lore wise i think it will be for space marine class

[storm jungle]

DEATH.

[green loom]

Guard?

Death Guard?

Nurgle?

[celest dome]

Iirc it was cause I created a thread that wasn't serious enough

[storm jungle]

bruh moment

meanwhile 109304 daily Primarch posting

[green loom]

Reminds me of how the regular Warhammer discord has no homebrew channel

[arctic talon]

💀

[celest dome]

Mine was something about Imperial Saint Dogs. Like I will admit its not really a serious topic but still

[arctic talon]

R/40Klore is more friendly to homebrew