actually this thing had two versions. one from gryphonne and another from another planet. one used smaller rounds to achieve more penetration and the other used a LONG barrel
#40k-lore-chat
crystal forum
green loom
I like the new gun crew models
crystal forum
i had to dig all this shit up the other day
arctic talon
ngl I imagine it getting towed around by a vehicle mostly
summer rover
I like the new gun crew models
i bet you do, you CoD lover.
arctic talon
but yeah it being man portable does make it seem a bit more awkward
could prolly remove the like
green loom
Imperial Guard logistics set when?
summer rover
i'm not even sure what gun that' supposed to be. it's sure not an autocannon or bolter.
green loom
It's field artillery
arctic talon
its a lopped off cannon of sorts
its just called the bombast cannon
iirc
this is the goofy one
it reminds me of hellstorm rocket batteries
summer rover
need a jeep to move that.
arctic talon
yeah
summer rover
also isn't that just a mortar rigged up like a fireworks box?
arctic talon
yeah pretty much lol
also just remember that sly marbo is prolly the final finecast mini GW will ever produce lol
it also is actually a really good mini
summer rover
good
crystal forum
i'm not even sure what gun that' supposed to be. it's sure not an autocannon or ...
is has the heat fins of an autocannon imo but canonically it's a heavy stubber
arctic talon
is has the heat fins of an autocannon imo but canonically it's a heavy stubber
that thing is not a stubber
a stubber cannot make a knight go kaboom lol
crystal forum
the krieg dude on the top of the modern mars pattern is supposed to replace that coaxial
trust me
it's a heavy stubber
summer rover
whatever it is, i'm pretty sure the gunner's going to get their ribs broken when it fires and the recoil launces the barrel into him
arctic talon
the krieg dude on the top of the modern mars pattern is supposed to replace that...
he was talking about the field gun
lol
crystal forum
man i keep forgetting lasers are AP weapons
could be a battle cannon
but those arent so good
if it was a demolisher cannon holy shit
crystal forum
also just remember that sly marbo is prolly the final finecast mini GW will ever...
why do they emphasize the muscles with such dark colours? makes their skin look unhealthy
arctic talon
why do they emphasize the muscles with such dark colours? makes their skin look ...
Eavy metal edge highlights everything
Its like their style
fucks sake they even edge highlighed the epic minis
also these squads are really small
for Epic
ig they're 8mm instead of 6mm
crystal forum
yeah a lot smaller than i expected
arctic talon
but still they should have scaled marines down
even smaller
bcs a default squad size in HH is 20
bit weird its just 5 legionaries
crystal forum
i thought the models in epic were just supposed to "represent" a unit
like no way was the size ever going to be accurate
arctic talon
i thought the models in epic were just supposed to "represent" a unit
yeah mostly
but epic used to have mroe marines on a base iirc
nvm
its just 5
crystal forum
i can just imagine the insane painters who will use magnifying glasses to paint super detailed
arctic talon
I'm too used to battletech ig
summer rover
it's usually 5 dudes in battletech infantry too
arctic talon
I could prolly just field my Adeptus titanicus minis in that as a whole army
arctic talon
it's usually 5 dudes in battletech infantry too
I'm coping for my stupidity okay 
arctic talon
I'd never buy an imperator anyways
I only have 2 warlords and one of them is mostly printed
I like warhounds more anyways
in the actual game
summer rover
but yeah, most not-historical 15mm games and smaller just use representative bases because historical games have you show every damn peon and 2,000 little dudes is a torment to paint.
arctic talon
it's a fucking imperator
one that my titan maniple does not need
I don't want a warmaster
I don't want an imperator
crystal forum
IT'S THE BIGGEST LAND UNIT IN THE IMPERIUM
arctic talon
it isn't
summer rover
always wants an imperator so i could put like a wlamart on top of it.
crystal forum
i said land unit
arctic talon
the capitol imperialis is a land unit
crystal forum
does it even move
arctic talon
yes
it also shows up like a wierd ammount in the horus heresy books
the thousand sons chucked one at the walls during the siege of terra lol
I'm so happy the direwolf is plastic now
I can finally justify buying one
arctic talon
looks like a cliché mad scientist death ray
its an admech gun
crystal forum
they look stumpy
arctic talon
they're Mega bolters
it'll absolutely slaughter marines
it already makes knights sad
crystal forum
can you use planes in epic
queen laurel
they're Mega bolters
You would expect you know big Bolters that are mounted on giant machinery to be able to Pierce armor but that seems to be not a thing
arctic talon
yeah
they're good at messing with void shields tho
or just chipping the paint on another titan
the main gun can make a warlord explode in one shot if its unshielded tho lul
crystal forum
put melee weapons on your warhound to make it lethal at any range
arctic talon
direwolf is a little gun platform that you run around with other warhounds tbh
you can take 1 per maniple(thank god)
crystal forum
i feel like it'll be either terrible or OP
arctic talon
in titanicus they're very strong
in Epic we'll see how titans are priced
but seeing as the starter set has warhounds
crystal forum
like usual with these sorts of units in any game where weapon size exists
arctic talon
I could prolly bring a solid chunk of my titans lol
crystal forum
"duh let's make the big gun move fast"
arctic talon
its weak in the sense that you can kill it with most heavy anti armor
but light anti armor is gona get shrugged off
crystal forum
i'll say this, a glass cannon that can move fast is NOT a glass cannon
game designers never get this
arctic talon
oh warhound aren't glass cannons lol
queen laurel
i'll say this, a glass cannon that can move fast is NOT a glass cannon
yeah that would be a michael bay transformer
arctic talon
they're scouts + murder machines
glass cannon award goes the warbringer nemesis
its slow, technically as durable as a warlord
but all your power is in the guns by default
queen laurel
glass cannon award goes the warbringer nemesis
The Titan that is supposed to be bigger than a warhound is a glass cannon?
arctic talon
yeah
it has weak void shields
everything is going towards the main gun + targeting array
crystal forum
let's see if a shadowsword will actually be useful
queen laurel
everything is going towards the main gun + targeting array
So that's why it doesn't have enough energy output to support the Shields to be a lot stronger
arctic talon
So that's why it doesn't have enough energy output to support the Shields to be ...
It has as many void shield generators as a warlord but the big gun draws a lot of power
so it can not be a glass cannon its just a waste of turns tho
also its missing the entire like upper carapace the warlord has
crystal forum
this thing isnt sold anymore right
crystal forum
huh
arctic talon
idk why you'd ever buy one in 40k but its funny
its also the only titan with like serious indirect firepower
it is very big
crystal forum
only costs a limb
arctic talon
also the main gun doesn't have a moderatii kill banner
so who the fuck is firing it lol
crystal forum
let me guess
arctic talon
both moderatiis?
crystal forum
a primarch can shrug off a hit
crystal forum
ah yes a cannon barrel that's bigger than a human
arctic talon
tbf the primarch won't be close lol
bcs the quake cannon can hit the entire board lol
and its got indirect fire
crystal forum
does it insta kill most things
arctic talon
It instakills anything that isn't a super heavy vehicle lol
and it makes most super heavy vehicles almost dead or die
crystal forum
are those upwards facing guns AA cannons
crystal forum
are planes an actual threat to titans
arctic talon
yes
in fact heavy aircraft are the biggest threat
to a titan
aside from another titan/a space ship lol
crystal forum
i bet that cannon can take out a small space ship
crystal forum
gotta love the crotch banners
hope we get the crotch gun back
this box art is so funny
the titan is shooting everywhere except the ork abomination
also i dont get the cathedrals
this is pre god emperor era
near wasp
There churchs of the omniessiah
crisp heath
storm jungle
also i dont get the cathedrals
The Imperium always had that aesthetic
it was mostly suppose to be ironic with the roman-nazis having a catholic church vibe since the guys that were making 40k at that time were also making unsubtle pokes like how the church is very bad and corrupt, well that and gothic just looks cool
celest dome
A Baroque Titan would be a real walking Fortress
storm jungle
as an architect i approve of this message
celest dome
Rococo Titan, that would fun to see
crimson kayak
I mean, Rococo and Baroque are basically the Noblebright version of Gothic
crimson kayak
Btw just noticed but Nightsiders (abhuman species) got mentioned in Darktide
storm jungle
Yeah they mention a lot of abhumans
theres just so many voicelines so the RNG doesnt do a good few of them enough justice
green loom
Vet mentions wanting a Hrud weapon
storm jungle
bet it was Loose Cannon
green loom
I think it was professional
storm jungle
that guy is literally just "As long as it doesnt wanna kill me I don't give a fuck"
terse flume
it was mostly suppose to be ironic with the roman-nazis having a catholic church...
it's funny, i've talked about this before
while there's for sure catholosism in my observation of the setting, it jumps out to me as mostly Anglian inspired
queen laurel
bet it was Loose Cannon
he is literally brave enough to say are you scared of going in an elevator?
to an ogryn
storm jungle
while there's for sure catholosism in my observation of the setting, it *jumps* ...
Its incredibly surface level yeah
40k's aesthetic when it comes to the Imperium is just
- Places arches EVERYWHERE
- Industrial/Metal
storm jungle
Arches are usually the prime one
green loom
BANNERS
queen laurel
catholic based buildings are also a thing
terse flume
like, the accents, the worshiping of a living ruler as a god, there being a slight difference of opinion on that where some people are kind of ambivalent about how literal that is (ie the cult mechanius) but some people are SUPER hardcore about it, the candles, the accents
green loom
"Vaguely sci fi gothic"
green loom
like, the accents, the worshiping of a living ruler as a god, there being a slig...
Mfw crazed Irish Catholics
terse flume
can't believe England would do Ireland dirty like this
the dog in our history books was so nice
queen laurel
like, the accents, the worshiping of a living ruler as a god, there being a slig...
He's not really living anymore he's just practically Mr. house from fallout new Vegas but in a lot worse of a condition he looks like Mashed potato if Mashed potato was a person
terse flume
right the queen analogy got more pointed as time went on :v
storm jungle
Mr. House at least understands when you shot the president
"WHY DID YOU DO THAT YOU MORON?"
"He wanted me to pay taxes."
"Ah I see."
queen laurel
"WHY DID YOU DO THAT YOU MORON?"
taxes
storm jungle
YES
near wasp
Same dude
terse flume
he's likable despite being so awful
god that game was good
like he's charismatic, you want to hear him talk
storm jungle
shame it has its own breed of imperium apologists
queen laurel
he's likable despite being so awful
He is very morally Gray as a character
storm jungle
"The roman larpers are the good guys dude"
queen laurel
The only reason why he doesn't seem so bad is because his goals help the wasteland even though he did not intend that to happen
near wasp
all i care about is crucifying the man who shot me
queen laurel
But without a second thought he will get rid of you if you interfere with his plans
queen laurel
all i care about is crucifying the man who shot me
ohh you're one of those guys
mild hill
near wasp
not even because hes rich or white, but because it was me he shot
green loom
All 4 factions are led by rich white dudes
near wasp
i wanna be a rich white dude, be hypocrital to kill him for that xD
crimson kayak
i wanna be a rich white dude, be hypocrital to kill him for that xD
Funny cause technically you can do that too lol
queen laurel
I love the fact that that benny is ballsy enough to try and fight me
"What will you do I have 4 guards"
"Umm i'm wearing armor that makes me a living tank"
near wasp
you HAD four gaurds before i took all this psychojet
queen laurel
one thing about fallout new vegas that i will consider my own personal nitpick is because how are you guys brave enough to fight me if I'm wearing armor that allows me to carry guns that are usually mounted on tanks
green loom
RPG syndrome
queen laurel
RPG syndrome
Yeah makes the role-playing elements not really that apparent a lot of the times, this is the legendary sword of an ancient family that allows me to kill a dragon with a single shot but I can't use it since I found this sword off of a random goblin that has a higher attack stat
green loom
"Never should have come here"
queen laurel
"Never should have come here"
hey i'm playing skyrim right now lmao
near wasp
thats a good idea
green loom
Morrow is Steel Legion right
storm jungle
Yep
he mentions Armageddon a few times, in the lasgun crystal heist he also makes lots of Steel Legion references
green loom
Aight cus he just mentioned the "Steel Legion handshake" or something before one of the assassinations
storm jungle
Yeee
queen laurel
he mentions Armageddon a few times, in the lasgun crystal heist he also makes lo...
Steel legion huh
That explains why he has some control on the tanks
storm jungle
he comments on that a bit
"Leaving a perfectly good Leman Russ like that? Wouldn't have happened in my regiment."
Though I'm not sure when Morrow's entire Steel Legion thing was decided during development
He has a shit ton of exploration concept art
terse flume
he has worn every uniform, having been in every battle
terse flume
this one is from that time he was in road warrior
coarse pumice
stark cargo
Skulls
40k: The setting where at least one bad guy was found out because he stopped putting skulls everywhere. 😁
crimson kayak
Flying Rhino confirmed
crystal forum
Flying Rhino confirmed
crimson kayak
https://preview.redd.it/yo81osxb4u161.jpg?auto=webp&s=de1cc31406cefdcadbe9b8513c...
Now I want a Valhallan/Vostroyan version of the Antonov but with a leman russ
celest dome
Hey, I know where this is from
crimson kayak
Soviet Russia? Well, with less steel and more cloth
crystal forum
antonov is ukrainian
celest dome
Is there a noted calibre for the human pattern Bolters ?
I only remember 0,75 and 0,9 (Heavy Bolter)
crystal forum
huh
celest dome
Someone is saying 0,5 for normal human, 0,75 for SM
crimson kayak
Ye, SoS mention once that they use smaller bolts
crystal forum
i've heard that both use the same caliber but i doubt it
crimson kayak
So going by the progression of 1,00 for heavy and 0,75 for normal it's the most logical, but there's no concrete answer technically
celest dome
I've only heard that the gun itself is smaller, due to not housing all the component that the SM get
crystal forum
I've only heard that the gun itself is smaller, due to not housing all the compo...
i think shooting 20mm ammunition would break a man's shoulder anyways
the again it's bolts so the kick might not be that bad
crimson kayak
Ye, personally I think it's .50 for the ones like the one we use seeing as stuff like the Tigris and Phobos already use smaller calibers (.60 and .70), with stuff like the Palanites boltgun being more into the .20/25 range
I'd follow the usual logic of "gw doesn't know guns, smaller means smaller bullet"
storm jungle
the again it's bolts so the kick might not be that bad
Its really not that bad yeah
people just love jerking Space Marine equipment
Before Darktide most people had no idea humans could also perfectly use normal bolt weapons either
crystal forum
some humans use heavy bolters though
celest dome
They are Catachan, they barely count
storm jungle
yeah its literally just Harker i think
but basically yeah people can use boltguns
a marine bolter wouldnt break your arm either
its just clunky and heavy
so you wouldnt even probably bother using it
celest dome
So 0.75 or 0.5 ?
arctic talon
a marine bolter wouldnt break your arm either
Tbh it’ll prolly bruise you
arctic talon
So 0.75 or 0.5 ?
Bolters are all 0.75 as far as we know
crystal forum
without a stock i can just imagine how much your wrist will hurt
celest dome
That what I though but someone told me otherway
rose thorn
Necromunda continues to look baller
crystal forum
i want the pain train trucks
you can use them in militia rules for HH
WITH trailers
arctic talon
you can use them in militia rules for HH
this thing?
crimson kayak
Bolters are all 0.75 as far as we know
Ye, only ones that have official smaller calibers are phobos and Tigris
crystal forum
this thing?
yes
crystal forum
at least in militia rules sheet
arctic talon
weird lol
but neat
bcs in 1.0 it was just a generic "transport" ruleset
that you could apply stuff to
crimson kayak
Yes, militia rules 2.0 have a lot of necromunda stuff
Along with uses for all new human models
You can even use the cadian field ordnance
crystal forum
crimson kayak
Yep, also the force commander can take human power armour
crystal forum
i really like the idea of a militia armoured regiment being a bunch of random equipment
crimson kayak
Holy shit you can have jetpack militia
And have grenadiers with volkite
This looks neater than expected
arctic talon
Jetpack militia suffer from Elsyium syndrome * 10 is the issue
you have no firepower
crystal forum
Holy shit you can have jetpack militia
right???
arctic talon
also finding jump packs is hell
crystal forum
it's just so cool
crimson kayak
Ye you have to use either 2 Las-pistols or 2 auto pistols with them
arctic talon
getting within 12 inches in horus heresy 
crystal forum
this entire army list is for rich kitbashers or printer owners
crystal forum
i bet 2 autopistols can beat angron
arctic talon
TRUE
also another thing in HH is wound bleedthrough exists
So overkilling == good
crystal forum
it's just a stupid fun rule sheet for you to bring out a random bunch of units to the table
arctic talon
ye
crystal forum
i bet most opponents wont even know how to deal with all the different units lmao
arctic talon
I mean
they do
you just play into them like Auxilia but worse
light infantry mulchers make them cry
and unfortunately bolters fall into the catagory
AP 5 == flak doesn't get to make a save
having a ton of datasheets != being unable to deal with them
it just means having a lot of datasheets
the biggest issue with not playing marines in horus heresy is that the whole goddamn game is balanced around marines
so theres a ton of things that aren't that lethal to marines but make light infantry explode
crystal forum
so theres a ton of things that aren't that lethal to marines but make light infa...
yea but seeing my vehicles blow up and my shitty militia getting turned to red paste is awesome
arctic talon
TRUE
I just make marine players cry because mechanicum is "balanced" and "fun"
everything in the book except for tech thrall murder marines
a squad of lightning lock Thallax instantly obliterating a blob of 20 marines is funny
crystal forum
can mechanicum beat primarchs
arctic talon
can mechanicum beat primarchs
They have a dedicated primarch killer character in the tabletop lol
He’s a melee monster
He just costs a lot of points
Also has a forced fights first and makes the enemy always fight last
celest dome
They have a dedicated primarch killer character in the tabletop lol
Scoria ?
arctic talon
Scoria ?
Scoria
I’ve never seen him on the tabletop but based on stats he should be able to kill one
Outside of like Mortarion
Also locks you into Xana
So hope you like dull copper
celest dome
So hope you like dull copper
You think I use official colours ?
arctic talon
No
But I like doing them for named characters
Oh nvm he can’t instakill primarchs anymore
They faq’d his melee lol
It no longer does D3 mortal wounds every time it goes unsaved
crimson kayak
Speaking of, what's this?
crimson kayak
Uh, I remember them differently
arctic talon
Uh, I remember them differently
It’s a Knight Atropos
It’s because it isn’t a questoris
It’s a cerastus pattern knight
crimson kayak
Ooh that's why
arctic talon
Cerastus knights are all tall lanky bois
The mechanicus only really gives out to mechanicus aligned houses
crystal forum
holy shit the leviathan dreadnought is massive
green loom
They got rid of leviathan dreads to sell the leviathan box
arctic talon
lol
storm jungle
Based.
rose thorn
i love that the imperium still has a court system to settle planetary disputes
crystal forum
its in the name
yeah but at that point it's just a knight who can't exit his machine lol
storm jungle
yeah but at that point it's just a knight who can't exit his machine lol
Well yeah but 40k is stupid lmao
copper slate
@arctic talon @crimson kayak someone remarks to Exumbra about how good he is at handling children. “…before Ballas turned me into a Warframe, I was a loyal Dax Soldier and a loving father.” (In my head, Exumbra sounds like Detective Voight from Chicago PD.)
crimson kayak
I mean, Umbra's should be more of an exception to the role of letting the personality show, they do have one themselves after all
Unlike the other normal/prime who are the "mass produced" version of the firsts
copper slate
Unlike the other normal/prime who are the "mass produced" version of the firsts
Point…
copper slate
Also, a little more prodding causes the whole story to spill out, Exumbra growling about how he didn’t volunteer to be a Warframe. “Ballas was a Heretic, and I found out. He infected me with an early version of the Helminth strain to shut me up.”
rose thorn
oh god im being indecicive again about picking my drukhari wych cult
crystal forum
oh god im being indecicive again about picking my drukhari wych cult
dartboard
it's how i chose my career
rose thorn
its a problem with the fact that all of them are cool, and the only one i really like and has a transfer is in teh shadow realm in terms of colorschemes
the 3 main ones are
alright
ia lso liek wrath unbown
unbound
no transfer
but
drugs are funny
crystal forum
i have no idea what any of this means but i recommend random chance
it lets you try stuff you otherwise wouldn't think of trying
rose thorn
blade denied are pretty funnt, they love thematic irony via using the enemy's weapon to kill them
crystal forum
even ork weapons?
rose thorn
IdK
problem is all of these cults are like
one note
you have the character cult
you have a cult that's evrything is a weapon
you have one that just likes bieng fast
those ar the 3 main ones
crystal forum
does anything in particular interest you in one of them
rose thorn
Cult of the Pain eternal are my favorite consept wise
they cause suffeirng and misery mainly towards religious organizations
when they attack they try to destroy churches, or libraries, or anything with any kind of spritial importance
they do the funny word bearer ashen circle
crystal forum
war crime speedrunners
rose thorn
fr
but thats mianly because they remind me of the ashen circle who are so terrible and horddific i love them
horiffic
seveneth woe dont try to kill
instead they try to remove teh enemies ability to fight
breaking their arms and legs
and leaving them as a
and i quote
'carpet of mutilated bodies'
'that writhe in agony and cry for death'
crystal forum
brutal
rose thorn
And you get cult of strife
whos gimmick is
they are popular because of one person
aka the named character
cult of the cursed blade, every thing about them is a weapon
they shapren their nails
they have pins in their hairful of poiosn
poison*
even their clothing is a weapon
and they betray everyone they interact with
arctic talon
Least psychopathic druhkari organization
rose thorn
FR
i do also like the red grief, but the kabals have basically the same thing but more interesting
arctic talon
Also I think it’s funny that wych groups are called cults
And haemonculi groups are called covens
crystal forum
i prefer my CLEAN guardsmen lore
rose thorn
i really like the kabal of the obisidion rose
obsidian*
they are those poeple who are insanely obsessed with guns
but drukhari
crystal forum
i am interested
arctic talon
Their founder was a slave
Keyword on was
But they make the highest quality guns of any druhkari organization
rose thorn
she was forced to be tortured by monotony
she eventually made guns so high quality they were a sign of prestige s
crystal forum
But they make the highest quality guns of any druhkari organization
what kind of guns 
arctic talon
The guns on the tabletop
rose thorn
and then she was called by her owner to personally deliverer a pretiege set of guns
just for him and his men
so she made the guns and delievered it her self
and then she pulled out her guns after everyone in the room grabbed theirs
and every gun in that room was made by her
and she made it so every gun would jam at the exact smae time
and killed everyone
and she took over
so now she owns a gun empire and made her company a sign of prestiege and perfection
crystal forum
by guns are we talking about those sissy eldar weapons or actual lead slamming pieces of american pride
rose thorn
to the point that if you arent skilled enough, you literally arent allowed to buy thier guns
and anyone who is hired must be extremely skilled
missing a shot might litreally get you demoted
arctic talon
by guns are we talking about those sissy eldar weapons or actual lead slamming p...
Every dark eldar gun technically fires projectiles
They just do horrific things lol
Either that or it’s a melta gun on crack
rose thorn
once a guy got close range and got blood all over his gun
and his boss
grabbed him
and hung him
crystal forum
Every dark eldar gun technically fires projectiles
not even one of those super lasguns that eldar have?
arctic talon
not even one of those super lasguns that eldar have?
They don’t use those
They’re too boring
crystal forum
i hate drukari
arctic talon
Lol
crystal forum
is it painful
rose thorn
very
crystal forum
i'll buy 20
rose thorn
theres also the liquidators who literally make you into a living pile of goo
oh and theres the guns that fire mini black holes
crystal forum
like a vortex grenade?
rose thorn
except it s agun
and more painful
oh yeah dont forget all the poison
that im pretty sure if different for everyone
on personal prefrence
correc tme if im wrong
arctic talon
like a vortex grenade?
No vortex grenades open a hole to a warp
Dark eldar use a literal black hole
Now granted the effects are similar
crystal forum
what if black holes are leaks into warpspace
arctic talon
Well going into the warp unprotected usually is instant painful death
crystal forum
you know what i dont get
arctic talon
What
crystal forum
the great rift
arctic talon
Not a warp storm
crystal forum
so if you go into it what happens
arctic talon
It’s like being in a warp storm
But shittier arguably
Since daemons can pop into reality easily
crystal forum
you don't go into the warp like the eye of terror?
arctic talon
The eye of terror isn’t in the warp either
It’s just the barrier between warp and reality is thin
It lets everything get out
crystal forum
but you can go in right
arctic talon
Yeah
It also takes way less fuel to warp jump within the eye
Since the barrier between reality and warp is so thin
rose thorn
i know is wrong but i imagine the phieonix lords like tokusatsu characters
eldar power rangers
fuckin anime teir shit
arctic talon
lol
rose thorn
like
i cant find a picture of all of them together
but like
you et what im sating
syaing
crystal forum
i once again recommend dartboard
arctic talon
even the new ones are
nah
the new ones are nice
karandras has not aged gracefuly
at all
and considering his main lore rival looks like this its even funnier lol
arctic talon
WHo totally isn't arrha guys
rose thorn
LMAO i love dazar
arctic talon
TRUST ME THEY AREN'T A PHOENIX LORD
arctic talon
Jain zarrs face mask is so weird lol
arctic talon
I usually see it painted bone lol
ik why its flesh toned but still
its weird as hell
rose thorn
Idk, the black and random mix between bone white and pure white
id rather paint him dark purple probs
arctic talon
Literally
why do they do that
the mini literally looks fine
they just chose to make his shoudler color pure white
bcs ????
rose thorn
and the skull on top???
maybe it was supposed to show that it wasnt actually bone
but hten
the skull on the back banner
is the same color
rose thorn
but i forgot gw sent hem to the rules with no model realm
arctic talon
he isn't
he literally exists
or are you talking about phoenix lords
bcs they still have models
rose thorn
phoenix lords
arctic talon
yeah
they're on rotation
(hell)
GW rotates what finecast/metal minis are for sale
rose thorn
his helmet also isn't consistant with dark reapers
honeslty i do like the silly faces, it feels pretty eldar to me
rose thorn
YEAH itS SO WEIRD
arctic talon
That is intentional
rose thorn
baharroth hasn't aged great
there are such cool design elements but damn he flat
arctic talon
Asurman is like the core khainate worshiper
also I'm 99% sure they're getting rid of the weird yin and yang symbol
when they update him lol
rose thorn
god thats sto stupid the yinn yang shit
arctic talon
also that one aspect shrine everyone forgets about lol
rose thorn
he looks, weirdly over designed
arctic talon
the paint job doesn't do them any favors
crystal forum
also that one aspect shrine everyone forgets about lol
i have no mouth and i must torture
crystal forum
missing lore
rose thorn
rose thorn
why is he so over designed
arctic talon
but the warp spiders broke into an imperial digsite
and stole a bunch of eldar crap
crystal forum
warp spider theft
arctic talon
that was an "ancient form of eldar power armor"
crystal forum
you think that's bad?
arctic talon
how many missing phoenix lords do we have lol
arctic talon
Shining spears, Crimson hunters
rose thorn
like 4 of them
arctic talon
rogal dorn is literally new
rose thorn
also its ltireally just a tank
crystal forum
even tanks are characters
arctic talon
arctic talon
give me all your painted models
no
crystal forum
worth a try
crystal forum
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/10/24/the-rogal-dorn-battle-tank-crushe...
it literally just describes the tank
arctic talon
more lore then the crimson hunters phoenix lord
a description of the tank is more then we have for him lul
or her
arctic talon
well that literally wouldn't work
crystal forum
prove it. paint all my models
crystal forum
i'll provide the paint
arctic talon
men of iron don't have a soul
crystal forum
I also pay exclusively in peanut butter m&m's™️
arctic talon
I forgot GW had cadians painted up in alternate schemes lol
crystal forum
I forgot GW had cadians painted up in alternate schemes lol
where do i buy
also i wonder how tedious it would be to paint russes in digital camo
arctic talon
where do i buy
You have to paint them yourself
arctic talon
also i wonder how tedious it would be to paint russes in digital camo
I've seen it done before one moment
crystal forum
i want some chinese minecraft aesthetics
hahaha i can just imagine a regiment inspired by the PLA
arctic talon
what about it lul
crystal forum
i still find it fucked that some dreadnoughts have the astarte's head exposed
like all you gotta do is break their neck
if you're a nid genestealer you could climb it and cut off the head
arctic talon
i still find it fucked that some dreadnoughts have the astarte's head exposed
It isn’t their head
It’s just a weird coffin
The “head” on those is a sensor array
arctic talon
just looks like a massive weak spot
Yeah it is a huge weak spot lol
storm jungle
Nah i dont play tabletop
tho I try to treat all factions respectfully to a degree
I only hate Space Marines and thats mostly from a corporate perspective, I like them as a faction mostly
crystal forum
so you're a hipster 
green loom
Playing tabletop is for people with game stores
I just want some models but even that's proving impossible 
queen laurel
Playing tabletop is for people with game stores
also for people with money to spare,
A basic box of ork boyz here would cost around ₱2,500.72 which is basically equivalent of $45
green loom
That's about normal pricing
queen laurel
It's expensive around here
green loom
Same, 1/10th of regular pay
queen laurel
hope you guys can afford printing one day
as much as I would like to have a sick ork miniature, i am not the best painter so i would probably not even try to do that
near wasp
I painted my first scarab today and i iready wanna redo it
Also i got bad paint, never opened the thing and it was super congealed and seperated and wouldnt remix
torpid narwhal
is the book godblight the first time we found out lorgar ||made what is now the imperium cult?||
i never seen it come up before
shadow plover
It's been known for a while now
at least as a reader
in-universe only a couple imperials know this
green loom
is the book godblight the first time we found out lorgar ||made what is now the ...
Yeah he wrote the big book way back in the Crusade
Mostly common knowledge for us
Though it should be mentioned that it was heavily revised by a loyalist word bearer
crystal forum
is the book godblight the first time we found out lorgar ||made what is now the ...
woah buddy next you'll tell us that horus became a traitor
torpid narwhal
Yeah he wrote the big book way back in the Crusade
i haven't read anything about that until now.
didnt know anything about lorgar
uneven temple
queen laurel
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/195404877688602624/1127844481786454117/...
This one looks even more like a crumpled up ball sack
coarse pumice
What chaos does to you
echo vault
Huron upset he lost his hair going chaos
dry epoch
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/195404877688602624/1127844481488650330/...
Good ol’ Slobberchops. I had so much fun writing him.
celest dome
I always forget that there authors here, it's like with Tumblr with Neil Gaiman
dry epoch
I’m just quiet and loiter in a corner, hissing when the light is switched on.
green loom
Just like me fr
pine wedge
Good ol’ Slobberchops. I had so much fun writing him.
for checks notes The Gildar Rift and Bitter End?
dry epoch
for *checks notes* The Gildar Rift and Bitter End?
Yup!
pine wedge
I'm getting my basic bitch 40k reading groove back on after years of negligence, got myself new copies of Gaunt's Ghosts and Eisenhorn to replace my old battered (and partially missing) volumes. once i've reread those and some of the early Horus Heresy stuff I'm planning on branching out and reading some new stuff for the first time since Obama was president. I'll add those to the list
dry epoch
for *checks notes* The Gildar Rift and Bitter End?
And a cameo appearance in ‘The Tyrant’s Champion’ when I think about it
celest dome
Only book I've read were the Valkia ones, so 
dry epoch
Only book I've read were the Valkia ones, so <:blahaj_ogryn:1063230706974724167>
Well, thank you for reading them!
crimson kayak
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/195404877688602624/1127844481786454117/...
I still hate we don't have some sort of upgrade sprue with red corsair non-chaos corrupted bits
summer rover
His old paint job is uh not great
it's actually a good paintjob, but it's a style of shading that hates photography. used to be popular butit's a mystery why they used it for the display models.
crystal forum
ork
crystal forum
new edition starter sets arriving. just a week away!
it's time to open ye olde wallet
crimson kayak
while looking for chapter master reference pictures i managed to find the one image showing off dual wielding thunder hammers
(also one handed TH)
rose thorn
oh sorry auto bot
rose thorn
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/195404877688602624/1127844481488650330/...
fuck yeahHh!!!!
rose thorn
while looking for chapter master reference pictures i managed to find the one im...
looks like either somoenes imperial fist oc or the flame eagles
the new epic game looks cool and all. but not for me in any way at all
i love the characters and stuff
that hh and horesy has
green loom
(also one handed TH)
rose thorn
oh god i forgot that was a thing
green loom
Hey I like Assault Ints
rose thorn
i mean the fucking dwarf hammer lmao
crimson kayak
ye but the image was back in 5th
crystal forum
im having so much difficulty trying to restrain myself from buying stuff i wont need
rose thorn
reverse image search time
crystal forum
i want to buy primaris stuff but then i wont be able to use it in horus heresy
but if i buy horus heresy stuff im paying so much money
somebody punch me in the face
crystal forum
assaulted by cat 
crystal forum
is that a white scar
rose thorn
idk waht the fuck it is
crystal forum
he seems to be having the time of his life
celest dome
So, can we ask again for the WP's Skull Splitter Hammer for the Zealot ? Twin Thunderhammer anyone ?
crystal forum
imagine it's like thor's hammer that you throw and it comes back
rose thorn
<:skeleton:1002329188340072549>
theres lkike 12 chaptesr that use this color scheme lmao
crystal forum
green loom
I'd get Corvus marines to paint Sons of Orar
shadow plover
it's just a random picture for a chaptermaster in the rules section from the space marine 6th edition codex
crystal forum
probably one of the best fight scenes marvel has made
tough haven
Playing tabletop is for people with game stores
Fr
shadow plover
it's black and white in that book and there's a quote from the salamanders chapter master in the same page so could just be a redraw with different colours
tough haven
I’ve been wanting to get into it but this is mainly what’s stopping me
shadow plover
he does have a massive fist on his back
crystal forum
I’ve been wanting to get into it but this is mainly what’s stopping me
you must print
thankfully printing is cheap(er) as hell these days
it's not illegal too unless you sell your models
tough haven
I don’t wanna spend that much money though
I can’t justify getting a whole printer and fixings for just this
crystal forum
it's about 300$ for a good starter resin printer
tough haven
I’ll just use TTS at that point
crystal forum
if you were to buy models you'd quickly go over the price point of a printer
shadow plover
printers will take a lot of work to take most out of them too
crystal forum
not really
it's a lot simpler these days
sure you need to learn how to level a bed and find your models online (which is hard because you need to do some digging to find stuff that hasnt been struck down by GW)
shadow plover
friend has a high end printer and does printing services, those things need quite a lot of work to get the best settings for best printing results and they don't always still succeed. I'm just glad I can take all the benefits from it without any of the hassle
crystal forum
if he has a high end printer and it's not some type of printer that's beyond consumer range then it shouldn't even be that much of a problem
high ends print so fast that retrying is a piece of cake
personally i really like being involved in the entire process of the model. creating one from raw materials and then sanding out the details adds a lot of personality
summer rover
buddy, if he wants to turn a profit he has to avoid needing to do reprints.
crystal forum
reprinting is part of the process. you're not losing 5$ every time you print
filament and resin are relatively cheap unless you go into specialized stuff
my old job bought a 1000$ filament printer that came with this really cool carbon filament thing. It didn't show any printer lines at all
crimson kayak
even industrial grade printers will have reprints sometimes, speaking from experience
crimson kayak
looks at the back of the room at the still unpainted gk squad of my brother
crystal forum
you could also just pay other people to print for you and it's significantly cheaper than what scalpers on ebay will sell 🤷♂️
these days ebay sellers will print their own stuff and sell it as genuine
there's literally no way to verify sometimes
crystal forum
man i can't believe that the new epic will have stuff like solar auxilia malcadors
it's like retroactively confirming which tanks were used at what time
crystal forum
I mean we always knew what were used
it wasn't really clear when the malcador was still being used primarily from what i could tell of my research
the malcador was created for vraks right?
arctic talon
@crystal forum its literally under the solar auxilia portion of forgeworld
and yes the malcador was created for the siege of vraks
to give traitors a distinct tank
crystal forum
that's what i mean. it's just cool that it's still being correctly used according to lore
crystal forum
the news articles seem to hint that primarchs might come to epic
i wonder if they'd suck or not
arctic talon
They'd prolly be fine
crystal forum
if they're buffy then i can imagine them being huge targets
and honestly it would be kinda dumb to have primarchs single handedly murder entire titans
arctic talon
They're already priorty number 1 to kill in the tabletop
in 40k less so but still very high value
crystal forum
yeah but you can't shoot them with 5 titans at once on tabletop
normal i mean
i just don't like them being OP when in lore they're not that powerful
arctic talon
lol
crystal forum
they're strong yes but they're leaders. unless we're talking about angron or some other one
like horus still managed to get cut by a sword
arctic talon
Too bad they must sell horrifically overpriced resin
crystal forum
i think this is an image of what would be available in an epic box
crystal forum
that's a lot of units
arctic talon
Looks like target practice for a warlord lol
crystal forum
i dont get it. i thought making tons of moulds was super expensive
crystal forum
i thought the resin was molded too
crystal forum
wait what
arctic talon
Like an order of magnitude cheaper
Resin molds are way cheaper then an injection mold
crystal forum
then why is forge world so expensive
crystal forum
are you shitting me
crystal forum
what's forgeworld east
arctic talon
Piracy
I’m making a joke about most of them being east European or East Asian
Which is east of forgeworld
crystal forum
so it's all going away?
arctic talon
None of the imperial stuff is bcs its being reused for epic
but yeah most of it is going away
green loom
pew pew
arctic talon
it also says "unsupported astra militarum units"
prolly whatever isn't heresy era but I don't really know much about aircraft lol
summer rover
that's so damn stupid looking
arctic talon
space craft ig?
crystal forum
prolly whatever isn't heresy era but I don't really know much about aircraft lol
now i feel like i should buy some stuff before it goes away
arctic talon
now i feel like i should buy some stuff before it goes away
why if you're never gona use it
crystal forum
you know what's funny though
crystal forum
usually stuff goes out of stock online fast when it's out of print and going away
urban spire
the shields are fine, what the fuck is up with the mounted spike?
crystal forum
nearly everything in nautica is still available lmao
arctic talon
the shields are fine, what the fuck is up with the mounted spike?
seems like a bayonet? but its stupid
urban spire
they're too big
arctic talon
if they have a bayonet there shouldn't be a shield
urban spire
the guns, that is
arctic talon
but meh
crystal forum
why if you're never gona use it
i want to use it for epic
urban spire
too big for a bayonet
arctic talon
I've seen worse
green loom
arctic talon
lol
crystal forum
and if epic comes to 40k then i can guarantee that old nautica models will be in legends
green loom
The term is firelance 
summer rover
i feel like the shield's stupid little footrest legs are going unnoticed.
crystal forum
the bayonets for straight up pole cannons are funny as hell
urban spire
nah people made dumb lookin shit back in the day, it looks fine
arctic talon
i feel like the shield's stupid little footrest legs are going unnoticed.
I think the whole shield is goofy tbh
but I think the idea of a spear with a gun strapped to it is fine
crystal forum
it's like a spear became a cannon and then became a spear again with the bayonet
urban spire
this is a real warhammer design
arctic talon
lol
green loom
I wouldn't say so
arctic talon
the hand is a nice touch
crystal forum
this is a real warhammer design
that's awesome
summer rover
it is, the most vital parts are just metal lace. i feel bad for whoever buys these those, those spikes are gonna be broken before the get off the sprue.
crystal forum
dont know why the spike is so curved though
arctic talon
armor stabby
urban spire
it's a modern reproduction
urban spire
i just grabbed the first one i found off google
crystal forum
it's funny because war hammers were some of the most effective battlefield weapons during the full plate era
arctic talon
it is, the most vital parts are just metal lace. i feel bad for whoever buys the...
yeah they def don't feel thick enough
they look as spindly as the admech blades which have a reputation for breaking lol
green loom
Warhammers are mid, polearms are where it's at
summer rover
"don't worry, it's only the head and chest that are exposed to enemy fire! your balls are safe behind this plywood!"
crystal forum
the cannons look like they were inspired by something i saw
but i think those poles were meant to be stabbed into the ground for the recoil
arctic talon
"don't worry, it's only the head and chest that are exposed to enemy fire! your ...
tbh its not awful as a shield
summer rover
in the old chinese firelances, yes.