it would take a millennia to literally kill every poor person on Terra
#40k-lore-chat
storm jungle
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As a custodes player and lore obsessor
green loom
Imagine Mecca/The Vatican but it's trillions of people just piling on eachother's corses hoping to get a glimpse of their respective holy sites
crystal forum
it would take a millennia to literally kill every poor person on Terra
i feel like this wouldn't be a problem for all the imperial agencies that are based on terra
storm jungle
YOU CANT JUST GENOCIDE EVERYONE ON TERRA
crystal forum
why!??!
green loom
This isn't a legal thing
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Theyre the greatest warrior poets and smartest beings in the imperium
tawdry mist
side question; i've been listening to some lore podcasts/doing some light wiki reading, but what direction are the Tyranids coming in from? iirc they're coming in from TWO directions now, right?
green loom
It's just not feasible unless you blow the planet up
green loom
side question; i've been listening to some lore podcasts/doing some light wiki r...
Everywhere
Below, above, east, west, south, north
Everywhere
crystal forum
no unwashed masses means no possibility of demon worship or gene stealer shit
storm jungle
side question; i've been listening to some lore podcasts/doing some light wiki r...
Sides of the galaxy, below it and from above with the 4th Tyrannic War
storm jungle
no unwashed masses means no possibility of demon worship or gene stealer shit
Yeah but like
green loom
no unwashed masses means no possibility of demon worship or gene stealer shit
Yeah but even with all the agencies
storm jungle
consider covid starting
you can try bombing the entirety of china
you wont stop it from spreading
humans are like rats
green loom
We're talking trillions of people huddled in masses upon masses of complexes built on eachother and buried so deep in infrastructure that you can't even bomb them out
crystal forum
it would be perfect practise for the assassins
languid salmon
no unwashed masses means no possibility of demon worship or gene stealer shit
Also means no people they can hand guns and send off when war threatens terra
green loom
I mean no they keep their own controlled population of Palace regiments
crystal forum
aren't all the terran regiments basically nobles?
green loom
All brainwashed and everything
storm jungle
You cant have an entire planet be nobles
its like real life
what do rich people have
servants
drivers
chauffeurs
in the dozens
you need people to do lower class stuff
languid salmon
Body guards
crystal forum
yeah but not in the billions
green loom
The problems is the massive, massive line of Pilgrim ships carrying millions and millions more pilgrims to the Palace every day
storm jungle
yeah basically any spot
green loom
And the flow just doesn't stop
crystal forum
i get in other sci fi settings when earth becomes bloated with population but that only works in a system where DEMONS and GENE STEALERS dont exist
green loom
Custodes tried wiping out just one Stealer cult and it killed a bunch of them
crystal forum
arent custodes actively fighting gene stealers on terra
green loom
The Inquisition and Arbites can barely keep things together
And that's in the areas they control
Just wiping out everyone would mean an immediate increase in chaos cults
crystal forum
how would it increase
languid salmon
Chaos feeds off of desperation
green loom
"Hey the authorities are coming to kill us, and the nice man down the road is promising to protect us"
crystal forum
nerve gas
green loom
You're literally lining trillions against a wall on a planet full of cults lmao
They either die or join a cult and fight back
Most will fight back
crystal forum
it would be good practise for all the regiments doing jack shit
green loom
Yeah and those regiments are outnumbered some 200000 to 1
green loom
and also, it wouldn't be open warfare
tawdry mist
hold my beer
crystal forum
bet
green loom
It'd be nonstop tunnel/urban fighting
crystal forum
call in krieg then
storm jungle
you think people will just allow this to happen?
you'll get high lords up your ass
and anyone of authority
green loom
call in krieg then
Straight up not enough of them 
crystal forum
"hey krieg if you defend terra we'll forgive your heresy"
storm jungle
Not that they care about the lives of the people mind you
its more that "what the actual fuck are you doing"
and accuse you of being a chaos worshipper or something
or just mad
and kill you
lmao
green loom
It's like if someone from a neighbouring town came over to "fix" yours and started blowing up the Ghetto
storm jungle
^
crystal forum
i'd like to see them try when im sending NERVE GAS in their direction
languid salmon
Donāt think you would have enough also there are wayās around gas
arctic talon
aren't all the terran regiments basically nobles?
The old 100 regiments are all nobles
technically
copper slate
@arctic talon @crimson kayak The bits and pieces Solomon and his agents learn about the overthrown masters' of the Warframes, the mysterious 'Orokin'. That they were Tyrants, that these 'Golden Masters' extended their life spans via a ritual called 'Continuity'.
Mentions of the Coup the Warframes headed. 'The Night of the Naga Drums.'
Mentions of Warframes former functions. "I was the Patron Saint of a school of Assassins. I grew tired of killing good men at the behest of wicked old men" Whispers Ash.
"Hmph... I was the Orokin's crimson enforcer." Scoffs Garuda, "I began to be sickened by the thought of turning my claws against another band of 'rebels' whose only weapons were pitchforks and kitchen knives."
What do you think?
copper slate
Mirage tends to spout off nursery rhymes, song lyrics, or even just laugh when she is fighting. She also enjoys treating larger opponents as if they are living jungle gyms.
rose thorn
What would be some good chapters to proxy as DA?
copper slate
DA? What?
crimson kayak
What would be some good chapters to proxy as DA?
Any Dark Angels successor?
Maybe Marines Errant and Howling Grypphons
rose thorn
Back sorry
rose thorn
Any Dark Angels successor?
True, dark angels have such a weird like, well everything
fair cobalt
Just thinking, doesnāt any death (even oneās that are done in another gods name) empower nurgle?
rose thorn
Sorta
I believe if it specifically leaves a corpse it does
But if you destroy the corpse right after then itās fine
Soemone describes the 4 gods like
āYou feed
Tzeentch by planning to kill someone
Khrone from killing someoneās
Nurgle from someone dying
And Slaanesh from enjoying that someone diedā
fair cobalt
So Iām guessing in dark tide youāre helping every god killing the heretics
rose thorn
Well nurgle is taking front stage so heās enjoying most of it
copper slate
Well nurgle is taking front stage so heās enjoying most of it
With Khorne probably taking the next biggest share.
green loom
Just thinking, doesnāt any death (even oneās that are done in another gods name)...
No death actively goes against it tbh
Unless it's death to disease
Nurgle dines om disease and despair
green loom
āYou feed
Tzeentch by planning to kill someone
Khrone from killing someoneās
Nu...
You appease Khorne by shedding blood, Slaanesh from torture, and Tzeentch from planning itself
Though I think sacrificing in someone's name works regardless
rose thorn
With Khorne probably taking the next biggest share.
Porbbbyy
rose thorn
Though I think sacrificing in someone's name works regardless
Yeah lol
arctic talon
So Iām guessing in dark tide youāre helping every god killing the heretics
Khorne is eating good from what we're doing in darktide
Tzeentch is eating good from what Rannick and Zola are up to
Nurgle is well he's doing nurgle things
copper slate
Nurgle is well *he's doing nurgle things*
Nurgle is enjoying the new garden his followers are cultivating in Tertium.
arctic talon
True
copper slate
I was busy earlier srry
You're okay!
arctic talon
copper slate
Garuda acts like a noblewoman when she's not on the battlefield. Change my mind.
Although... The first time Garuda entered the field, she got confused for a Unique Khornite Daemon.
copper slate
Exactly.
fair cobalt
Khorne is eating good from what we're doing in darktide
wouldn't the emperor also get a little bit of power from zealots killing in his name
near wasp
Yes but it also empowers khorne
queen laurel
Yes but it also empowers khorne
To be fair Khorne is basically eating a buffet every second considering the current state of events in the setting
you blink once and in that moment more than 50 liters of blood are already spilled
fair cobalt
i wonder if malice is getting anything from this
queen laurel
That guy unfortunately practically is just in the background, I mean he gets stronger the stronger the chaos gods are but he is still not going to do anything meaningful anytime soon
celest dome
Malice ? Is he even still active ?
Malal was made weaker due to the order that the CG made
queen laurel
Malice ? Is he even still active ?
Malal was made weaker due to the order that t...
malice is still around but he's practically dead because everybody doesn't know what he does
fair cobalt
Itās still interesting to think heās biding his time
green loom
Biding his time in eternity because he's not a thing
celest dome
There is no hell like legal hell
- Malal
near wasp
Malal does not even exist
celest dome
he used to
crimson kayak
literally only the Sons of Malice follow Malice and even then they appear in one story and then get a mention that they appear in the 13th black crusade
(also malice is most probably just a lower powerful daemon as it can get a host)
crimson kayak
Mentions of the Coup the Warframes headed. 'The Night of the Naga Drums.'
now that i think about it that could all be misrepresented by the imperium as something from the Daot
copper slate
now that i think about it that could all be misrepresented by the imperium as so...
Daot? Whatās that?
terse flume
dark age of tech
arctic talon
malice is still around but he's practically dead because everybody doesn't know ...
Heās weak as fuck he got summoned to real space with a sacrifice of 13 psykers
queen laurel
Heās weak as fuck he got summoned to real space with a sacrifice of 13 psykers
like i said he's just there
and he's not going to do anything meaningful anytime
arctic talon
Tbf he killed a bunch of grey knights
copper slate
now that i think about it that could all be misrepresented by the imperium as so...
Ahā¦. That the āOrokinā were simply one of the many cut-off human colonies?
arctic talon
Before getting banished
fair cobalt
He certainly does exist, even if he isnāt notable
crimson kayak
Ahā¦. That the āOrokinā were simply one of the many cut-off human colonies?
nope, that's before the cut-off (Age of Strife) Dark age of tech is more like the technological golden age of humanity
basically consider humanity in the DaoT as orokin-level, and humanity now as Ostron level by comparison
copper slate
Ah. Okay
crimson kayak
i mean, orokin kind of relate well with all the DaoT stuff up to the men of iron rebellion
with the whole men of gold/stone/iron concept
hell the sentients could probably be mistaken as men of stone/iron
spring cairn
Heās weak as fuck he got summoned to real space with a sacrifice of 13 psykers
you can summon him with 35 mcdonalds nuggets
storm jungle
no thats me
queen laurel
no thats me
writes on note
So that's how you summon the minor chaos deity of lore chat
nocturne crest
Would the Gue'vesa have any imperial navy ships?
storm jungle
Nah they wouldnt
anything the 'vesa use is supplied by the Tau
which isnt a bad deal because even the most basic tau weaponry is more advanced than half the stuff your average guardsman is given
at the end of the day they are still auxillaries, any transportation/support and such will be made by the Tau's behalf
arctic talon
They do still use their old stuff tbf
Itās just supplemented with tau stuff
Mostly guns and armor
nocturne crest
I'm just wondering if their old imperium vehicles and gear would be retrofitted with tau technology.
arctic talon
It can be
queen laurel
I'm just wondering if their old imperium vehicles and gear would be retrofitted ...
I think they will avoid doing that for the most part because the imperium tends to be very "this is mine and I will not let you change it in any way unless I do the changes myself"
Like wolf said it can be but imperials tend to have a lot of you know beliefs
nocturne crest
But Gue'vesa are ex imperium. Surely they could allow some innovation.
queen laurel
Oh definitely but I'm pretty sure some will decide to stay faithful to their weapon
nocturne crest
Ah, good point there.
green loom
They're allowed innovation
But iirc
They're mostly left to self govern
With a tau presence
storm jungle
I'm just wondering if their old imperium vehicles and gear would be retrofitted ...
Theres no real point because imperial tech is very basic, Tau stuff tends to be more advanced.
If you try putting something like a tau railgun on a captured leman russ thats basically just being an ork lol
green loom
The real advanced imperial stuff is reserved for military bases and very, very wealthy nobility(and admech)
storm jungle
Also that
green loom
Like
storm jungle
A smart guardsman knows a pulse rifle is always better than a lasgun lol
green loom
You can make a Leman Russ in a crappy old garage
near wasp
A smart guardsman knows a pulse rifle is always better than a lasgun lol
You mean a heretic
copper slate
@crimson kayak @arctic talon In other news, Iām still trying to think up a nickname that Slaanesh would use in reference to Warframe Operator Asha, but I have nicknames for the other three Ruinous Powers.
Khorne calls Asha āThe Little Weapon Master,ā because of Ashaās deceptively youthful appearance and her skill at wielding a wide variety of weaponry, including the Warframes.
Tzeentch refers to Asha as āThe Rogue Variable.ā Because thatās what Asha is to the great Architect of Fate, an unknown quantity that heās never quite able to completely pin down.
And finally to Grandfather Nurgle, Asha is the āDeathbed Orchid.ā A deceptively beautiful flower that Nurgle enjoys growing atop the victims of his moreā¦ subtle creations. The orchidās pollen has the curious property of being a vector for contagions, spreading whatever disease or diseases that the corpse it was grown on contained.
(Apologies for the wall of text, everyone!)
green loom
I should probably write down my ideas for the red thirst
copper slate
That doesnāt sound good
green loom
My vampires gots to be special
nocturne crest
A smart guardsman knows a pulse rifle is always better than a lasgun lol
I have heard that pulse rifles can destroy the gene seed organs due to their effects.
green loom
They're basically just more stable and accurate plasma weaponry
But that claim is frankly stupid since everything that can kill a marine can destroy geneseed organs lmao
arctic talon
I have heard that pulse rifles can destroy the gene seed organs due to their eff...
Pulse rifles are plasma guns but safe
queen laurel
If you try putting something like a tau railgun on a captured leman russ thats b...
No, that's when you attach three rail guns on a Leman Russ
fair cobalt
But Gue'vesa are ex imperium. Surely they could allow some innovation.
Canāt wait for a gueāvesa tabletop counterpart
green loom
They used to be a thing but have more or less been left to gather dust
rose thorn
What do Votaan societies look like
I would think they either look like fallout vaults or sci-fi coastal cities
queen laurel
I would think they either look like fallout vaults or sci-fi coastal cities
To me they look like deep rock galactic space rigs but a lot more ancient
queen laurel
Cyber punk Dwarf Gotham Japan is what Iām picking up
Fair
queen laurel
https://preview.redd.it/plj9tyoml3v81.jpg?auto=webp&s=cf9190877bef693c140f62be7c...
Oh an ancestor core
green loom
I have the weirdest feeling of deja vu
queen laurel
Is there a reason itās a big screaming head
Votann Ancestor Cores are ancient Leagues of Votann super-cogitators, which contain gestalt repositories of unimaginable inherited wisdom and knowledge
rose thorn
The ancestor;
queen laurel
Basically they are sentient STC's
queen laurel
https://tenor.com/view/scream-run-away-gif-23892939
Not that far off to be honest because since they are constantly used by the votann they have begun to develop quirks and deficiencies, due to their millennia of constant usage. Their creators did not design them with this in mind and even cogitators of near-limitless power can eventually run out of memory
rose thorn
Votann Ancestor Cores are ancient Leagues of Votann super-cogitators, which cont...
Oh they do that thing where a dwarf can hold all the information from their dead ancestors souls except itās a computer
queen laurel
Oh they do that thing where a dwarf can hold all the information from their dead...
Yes but since it's a computer memory storage is running out
you can only update call of duty so much until it takes up all of your memory
storm jungle
Also important to remember
Votann literally have one deposit of lore so far and thats their codex
they got a book coming out soon at some point
crimson kayak
Wait, the kill team didn't get a book?
green loom
Is it even out yet
rose thorn
What the fuck even is thier kill team, is it just an armory expansion like the CSM one
crisp heath
I have a question about the Oghram event going on now
rose thorn
The Votaan kill team I mean
crisp heath
Have yall been pronouncing it like Welsh (oh-ROM) or English (OG-ram)
celest dome
Oh-gram
rose thorn
Oh Iāve been saying it like og r ham
crimson kayak
What the fuck even is thier kill team, is it just an armory expansion like the C...
Seems to be unique stuff
Like the knuckle duster votann
rose thorn
Will it be itās own unique unit, or is it gonna be like āoh yeah legionaries can take a baleful tomeā
But instead āthe kin can take a fucking jaw breaker
crimson kayak
Oh no my bad
copper slate
I have a question about the Oghram event going on now
There's an event?
crimson kayak
It's an upgrade sprue for Heartkyn
crisp heath
There's an event?
Yeah if you bought the leviathan box there's a code you can use to vote for tyranids or space marines to win a canon battle
copper slate
okay
rose thorn
Iām a huge fan of the spell for the legionaries, more stuff for your basic unit is always cool
crimson kayak
Yeah if you bought the leviathan box there's a code you can use to vote for tyra...
Don't you also have to send a battle report or something?
crisp heath
I think you're supposed to, but the form literally just allows you to click "tyranid or space marine" and call it a day
People who have the box are just using it as a vote
crimson kayak
Oh no you don't have to buy the box to do that one
I chose space marine for example lol
crisp heath
Ah, maybe I misunderstood instructions then lmao
crimson kayak
Ye, that the registration
Then after that you send the battle report if I recall right
copper slate
Yeah if you bought the leviathan box there's a code you can use to vote for tyra...
ah, okay.
fair cobalt
Does the demon host eat your soul when it kills you or something?
Iām guessing itās a fallen psyker
copper slate
Iām guessing itās a fallen psyker
Could be a latent one.
celest dome
While DH are usually made with Psykers, they aren't necessarily
But seeing the current absence of Psyker among the Scab...
arctic talon
Also the loyalist psyker says the same buzz line
that might be the giant psyker eating wasps trying to lay eggs in their brain tbf
summer rover
But seeing the current absence of Psyker among the Scab...
thems the daemonhosts. having a chaos cult loitering around isn't good for psyker health.
celest dome
What I was trying to imply
urban spire
psykers are attached to a regiment but they aren't a proper part of it, they still belong to the scholastica psykana iirc
so the psykers didn't necessarily fall to chaos with the scab regiment
celest dome
Yes, in the same way Commissar are
storm jungle
Chaos Commissars and Psykers both exist too so its prob just gameplay reasons.
urban spire
probably
celest dome
Probably will happen at some point, like if they add enemies to the current groups
Same way we don't have Sorcerer
arctic talon
I love how the mutant is strong enough to pick up an ogryn lol
urban spire
fuck that, i love how the ogryn is strong enough to counter charge a plague ogryn
peak big man
arctic talon
Lol
arctic talon
Lol
storm jungle
I love how the mutant is strong enough to pick up an ogryn lol
TO BE FAIR
Its less pickup and more just pummel to the ground
storm jungle
even his throwing animation of the ogryn requires more weight since he pulls the ogryn towards himself then throws it
with the human characters uh
well yeah he just tosses them like a gorilla
lmao
storm jungle
Ogryn are heavy as hell
Yeeee true
but like im not gonna rant on it since animating shit like that is hard
š
near wasp
Sometimes its just important to aknowledge its a game and not everything is always gonna be realistic
crisp heath
I mean the mutant probably doesn't feel any pain, is hopped up on warp juice that tends to multiply strength, and is just a really chonky fella
The guy could probably toss around an elephant given the opportunity
celest dome
Bsaically is on the same juice as the Goliath Zerker I bet
crisp heath
I'm pretty sure ragers, zerkers, and mutants are all basically the same thing at different scales
copper slate
I'm pretty sure ragers, zerkers, and mutants are all basically the same thing at...
Iām not sure there is much of a mind left in those mutantsā¦
crisp heath
Well the zerker image didn't embed but basically yeah, they're all on the same drug
crisp heath
I think goliath Stimmers are on the low end, then ragers, then zerkers, then Darktide mutants
celest dome
I think Goliath Zerker>Mutant
crisp heath
Counterpoint: they're cursed/blessed by nurgle
even if they were unmodified and not on combat stims, they'd still be tough and strong compared to a normal human
Nurgle's magic tends to multiply strength and make you unkillable
celest dome
Goliath offer a better base though
rose thorn
Wow that would make a fucking baller Creation of Bile model
Maybe even with out kitbashing
storm jungle
Counterpoint: they're cursed/blessed by nurgle
The concept art says they were "enhanced" forcefully by the cult while already being mutants
its in Miguel's instagram
crisp heath
Mutant + Nurgle + the good juice, they're beefy lads
storm jungle
Speaking of highly suggest visiting his insta
lots of cool concept art there he hasnt posted anywhere else for some reason
rose thorn
I love how all the stuff is inspired by the old heretics and renegade nurgle cult models
rose thorn
I use to be an avid hater of the old cultist, but now I can appreciate how wacky and weird they are
The new ones are bettee
storm jungle
Oh yeah also
Morrow went through so many phases holy shit
half of these it makes him look like
storm jungle
My favorite is the heavy gunner with a fuckinh butchers apron
Yhere theres definitely some inspo
rose thorn
New cultists do actually look like a fucking cult
And not a fallout 2 raider design reject
arctic talon
Imo they both served their purposes
One of them is more industrial
The other is a lot more uh
rose thorn
Yhere theres definitely some inspo
I always find when stubber just look like real life guns funny
arctic talon
Insane chaos worshiper
rose thorn
Imma send that to friend who loves guns and see if they can identify it
storm jungle
I like cultists weapons a lot since they have that vibe of just uh
"We stole these from a few crates"
the industrial boxy look to the weapons helps a ton
crimson kayak
i hate chaos weapons only cause of the "5 round belt fed" addiction they got
rose thorn
the industrial boxy look to the weapons helps a ton
Itās probably better that gsc get that now
storm jungle
TRUE
rose thorn
Yeah, itās healthier to separate the twoās identity but you can easily convert one into the other
storm jungle
GSC get that Payday 2 loadout
rose thorn
Frfr
I wanna see a regal gsc tbh
See what happens when the upper class get infected and want to separate
arctic talon
GSC get that Payday 2 loadout
lol true
rose thorn
I just had flash backs to the end of ascension day
arctic talon
GSC get that Payday 2 loadout
guys the thermal drill go get it
storm jungle
I FORGOT THEY ACTUALLY HAD THERMAL DRILLS AAA
rose thorn
jHshdhhHahah
storm jungle
mfer is drilling into a space marine and it jams and you gotta restart it š
rose thorn
A crime syndicate gsc would be cool
arctic talon
who would win 1000 year old geneforged soldier or 1 thermal drill
storm jungle
if he has the other Gage Weapon Packs my money is on the cultist
arctic talon
if he has the other Gage Weapon Packs my money is on the cultist
The kellermorph bought the gage weapon packs
thats why his gun go through everything
terse flume
how are muties alive
storm jungle
storm jungle
Yes
terse flume
how did a mutant survive to adulthood
storm jungle
I mean the same way anyone does, they just werent mutated enough to die
terse flume
how did like a trillion of them, lol. they look pretty fuckin mutated!
storm jungle
Its a game
crimson kayak
gameplay reasons, also forceful mutations is not out of the question
storm jungle
^
terse flume
oh there are like mutagens in the setting?
arctic talon
yeah
storm jungle
I mean yes?
storm jungle
LMAO
crimson kayak
also yeah, chaos powers
arctic talon
Just keep on dumping biomancy abilities as you please
till you get what you want lol
and yeah liquid mutigens are also a thing as is DNA splicing
terse flume
so they're not genetic mutants, or they were like minor genetic mutants until they got the green goo that definitely isn't venom
storm jungle
The only note we have is they were born as mutants and got genetically enhanced by the cult
chaos factions in general are also known to use mutants in hordes among cultists constantly
so its not that deep of a subject, they just keep em around
terse flume
and it's not like mutants on even like, not at war hive world's are uncommon I guess
arctic talon
unatural mutants also tend to look a bit more fucked up lol
terse flume
they just live in the radioactive dust or whatever I guess
storm jungle
Yeah but in THAT case those are getting fused with daemons
storm jungle
and it's not like mutants on even like, not at war hive world's are uncommon I g...
also yeah that too
most hive cities underhives are literally chernobyl lmao
copper slate
most hive cities underhives are literally chernobyl lmao
They make real-world slums look positively pleasant...
gloomy citrus
most hive cities underhives are literally chernobyl lmao
S.T.A.L.K.E.R's edition of Chernobyl.
gloomy citrus
They make real-world slums look positively pleasant...
Brazil is probably the closest thing to that.
storm jungle
Favela Moment
gloomy citrus
More specifically the favelas.
gloomy citrus
Yeah.
arctic talon
it would be more like a low/low-mid hive
storm jungle
arctic talon
š
gloomy citrus
So, California?
arctic talon
lol
California is like mid/low upper hive 
same with most big cities
actually prolly way less violent
but still
gloomy citrus
California with the population of India.
rose thorn
unatural mutants also tend to look a bit more fucked up lol
Only like 2 of these people arenāt having a terrible fuckinh time lol
gloomy citrus
Or better yet. India itself.
arctic talon
Only like 2 of these people arenāt having a terrible fuckinh time lol
simply sucessfuly become possesed
smh
rose thorn
arctic talon
if an iron warriors slave armorer can do it so can you
She became one of Khornes greatest mortal champions what excuse do you have
rose thorn
simply sucessfuly become possesed
I love chaos and all but when the fuck has possession gone well
gloomy citrus
Gal Vorbak.
rose thorn
JAVDJAHZHAH
arctic talon
also yeah the Gal Vorbak
fusing with your former masters daemon armor and beating him to death is pretty fun
just sayin
arctic talon
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/7/7e/Beast_of_Scaidava.jpg...
They have a good time aparantly
One guy got absolutely hammered drinking
And the daemon took over for him
gloomy citrus
One guy got absolutely hammered drinking
Now it made me want to see a Space Wolf get possessed.
Wonder how that would turn out.
rose thorn
I forgot who said the lorgar model looks bad
But nah who ever painted it fruit how to thin paint
Itās genuine okay model
gloomy citrus
The blue orb reminds me of Magnus.
gloomy citrus
But not powerful enough to deal with Corvus.
rose thorn
It was actually right after the drop sight massacre I think actually
Iād need to check
arctic talon
It wasnāt
rose thorn
When he learned he had magic
rose thorn
Oh
rose thorn
Why the fuck did they make lorgar a pyker????
gloomy citrus
They made Morty a psyker.
rose thorn
They needed 2 primarchs that can cast spells??
gloomy citrus
And Morty fuckin' hates psykers.
rose thorn
They made Morty a psyker.
They did????
copper slate
Corvus fucked off to somewhere else
His specialty is stealth; he's around somewhere...
terse flume
oh hrm another question sorry
arctic talon
Something tells me that every Primarch was actually a psyker now.
tbh he's a daemon primarch
he's gona be inherently a psyker
all daemons are
yes even khornate ones technically
terse flume
do hives have dogs, or are plague dogs brought in like as shock troops after being bred elsewhere
arctic talon
they can have dogs
rose thorn
Canāt wait for angron to cast the AOS blood spells
arctic talon
the plague hound might not even be a dogh
arctic talon
he hates sorcerers
big differeance
one is stealing power/barganing for it
the other is being literally built different
also the imperium considers these things "dogs"
rose thorn
In AOS the lore is that khrone hot so angry that endless spells were made he created blood paradoxes
gloomy citrus
Well, the World Eater librarians were not sorcerers.
arctic talon
lol
Yeah
but they died bcs the nails didn't work lol
if you put nails in a psyker they uh
pop
all the librarians who tried popped
rose thorn
I would love to see some khrone sorcerers like AOS slaughter priest and that new one
Uhhh
gloomy citrus
Angron slaughtered those who didn't have the nails.
arctic talon
And we've seen khornate psykers before
arctic talon
Angron slaughtered those who didn't have the nails.
yeah
but this was originally lol
he kept his librarius around
for a long ass time
they all died trying to stop him ascending
rose thorn
Alos ignore the sorcerers that human khrone worshipers can use
gloomy citrus
I heard that they were killed by Angron once he ascended.
arctic talon
they died trying to stop him ascending
arctic talon
yeah I mea
*mean
there weren't a lot left lol
after the whole they tried implanting butchers nails into themselves
storm jungle
Yeah they murdered some of the loyalist elements in the legion because uh
arctic talon
also this is a dog as well
storm jungle
they rightfully said angron is a moron
gloomy citrus
they rightfully said angron is a moron
Not like it was his fault.
arctic talon
but it is in fact a canine
storm jungle
Not like it was his fault.
It was his fault for dragging his legion to hell with him and constantly abusing them though is the thing
he made world eaters also kill a squad member constantly if they failed to take a world in 32 hours among other nonsense
he kinda had to be put down long ago
gloomy citrus
He was in pain all that time.
gloomy citrus
Due to the nails in the fucking brain.
storm jungle
He entirely made his legion a slave to chaos
he could have went to anyone too but didnt since hes anti-authority
so all he did was just butcher and butcher
rose thorn
Lore wise you think I can get away with running the same word bearers models in HH and 40k?
Like maybe not everything but like a solid amount
gloomy citrus
Nothing's stopping you.
rose thorn
True
arctic talon
Lore wise you think I can get away with running the same word bearers models in ...
I mean I wouldn't stop you
rose thorn
Itās the only insane gothic religious style I like
gloomy citrus
Word bearers already look pretty chaosy
Because they were.
gloomy citrus
just need some chaos runes and more skulls
Skulls are mostly just a Khornate thing.
rose thorn
Yeah they were the first to betray Emp but I wasnāt sure how chaos corrupted they would be
gloomy citrus
Well, they are un-divided.
rose thorn
Physically
gloomy citrus
Well, they are un-divided.
Which means they worship each God equally.
gloomy citrus
That is a lot.
gloomy citrus
Doesn't make much sense for sorcerers.
rose thorn
Ah, casually chaos my beloved
arctic talon
Doesn't make much sense for sorcerers.
its part of the aesthetic
chaos 40k has that trim + skull aesthetic going on
gloomy citrus
Sorcery is Tzeentch's area.
arctic talon
storm jungle
Sorceror is only tzeentch's area if you are going mega-super sorceror
its like a skill-tree system
gloomy citrus
The DA only has carved skulls.
storm jungle
Its like how in Darktide you got berserkers who are nurgle alligned
its mostly just an aesthetic choice
arctic talon
The DA only has carved skulls.
I'm aware
I'm just posting him as an example of the general 40k chaos aesthetic
rose thorn
Also, is there a reason the cult marine factions canāt run the cultist crew
gloomy citrus
its mostly just an aesthetic choice
Well, you look cooler as a maniac than a walking garden waste.
arctic talon
Nurgle, Slaanesh and Khorne all ahve some skull action tbh
rose thorn
The dark uhh
arctic talon
Also, is there a reason the cult marine factions canāt run the cultist crew
lore reasons no
its for gameplay reasons
gloomy citrus
Nurgle, Slaanesh and Khorne all ahve some skull action tbh
And Tzeentch has bird skulls here and there.
arctic talon
ig its lore reasons bcs technically all 5 of those guys
are named characters
part of the black legion
but they aren't named characters on the tabletop
so L for them
arctic talon
also I think its really funny there's only 7 thousand sons kits
like exclusively for them
they have so many goddamn tzangors
gloomy citrus
Tzaangors are just cultists trying to look cool.
arctic talon
beastmen
akshully š¤
also tzaangors being racist towards other beastmen in AoS is funny
gloomy citrus
I don't know much about AoS, so I won't comment on that.
rose thorn
Slaangor too
gloomy citrus
It feels like all followers of Tzeentch are a bit arrogant.
rose thorn
Still waiting for the other two mono god beastmen
arctic talon
Khorngors and pestigors
rose thorn
Cool name for pestigors
rose thorn
But it breaks the pattern
rose thorn
I know why itās pestigors
Because you canāt say nurgors
But I still hate it
Maybe nurglgors
Would work better
WAIT
BELAGORS
great horngors
Siggors
gloomy citrus
Malagors.
rose thorn
Ngashgors
rose thorn
jaheuabwje
gloomy citrus
Khaigors.
arctic talon
Primarigors
rose thorn
Corvgors
gloomy citrus
Lorgagors.
rose thorn
Magors
JABDHAHHl lorgagors is my favorite
That will be a baller demon Prince model
Letās see
Alpharagors
Omegors
ROLGOR GORS
Gor empergor of humanigors
copper slate
@rose thorn @gloomy citrus bonks you two with a rolled up newspaper
rose thorn
newspapgor 
copper slate
stop that.
plush mason
so BG3 is gona have a player origin that is called dark urge and its more or less just playing as a Khorne berserker with amnesia
just random intrusive thoughts to kill and main everything and everyone around you
terse flume
yeah where's the escapism
plush mason
lmao
plush mason
yeah where's the escapism
well unlike IRL you can act on those urges and not suffer any real punishment
crisp heath
I'm still reeling from the BG3 bear
Honestly tho the bear thing is pretty tame for what's usually in Realmslore
I'm not going to be satisfied with any D&D video game until I get to meet Daurgothoth, the apocalyptic and eternally growing dracolich who is entirely motivated by returning to life so he can, uh, reproduce
coarse mirage
BG3 will be amazing
crystal forum
@arctic talon i can use a land raider in the militia army
arctic talon
you know land raiders are terrible in HH right
also esp for guard
the storage capacity isn't great
but yes you can
arctic talon
Termite drill is also not great for milita
its good in mechanicum, auxilia and marines
bcs they have valuble elite infantry to deliver to the backline
militia don't really have that
the nice choices militia get are just awakard bcs like
low killing power imo
crystal forum
yeah would be cool gameplay wise to have the astartes tanks but i really love having the option to use great crusade era tech for guardsmen
arctic talon
I mean you the termite drill was usable by guard
it still is but it got sent to legends
crystal forum
it's great crusade because it was used by the imperial army
arctic talon
Ig?
crystal forum
the entire point of the militia is fluff so im happy
crystal forum
I mean it won't be rusted during the heresy
well the name of the option implies the vehicles date directly back to the dark age
arctic talon
the rhino is still in active production during the heresy for the imperial army
is what I more so meant
that world has the STC for it
arctic talon
tbh Rhino is prolly the least bad
crystal forum
it'll just be a commander vehicle anyways
arctic talon
Land raiders are just horribly overpriced
arctic talon
it'll just be a commander vehicle anyways
there's the uh Deimos rhino if you want
er
Deimos command rhino?
I forgot its actual name
crystal forum
see im not sure if the thing lets you use variants
crystal forum
if i could i'd use tank versions
arctic talon
its still just a rhino
crystal forum
slow down man geez
arctic talon
the bot hates me
crystal forum
grudge
arctic talon
but there's nothing against using it
imo
esp since it still has the same profile as a normal rhino
and HH uses imaginary cover
instead of true cover(thank fuck)
crystal forum
oh also
i completely forgot to mention it lets you put jetpacks on your soldiers
arctic talon
Ye
crystal forum
is that good
arctic talon
but the weapon replacment is bad
being stuck with pistols is spooky
and no heavy weapons
crystal forum
i wonder if it can be coupled with the options that lets you switch pistols to relic stuff
also is ballistic skill reduced to 3 bad
arctic talon
Yes
actually wait
no its good
you hit on 4's
wait nvm it is worse
its to make the BS of the marine vehicles in line with milita/auxilia
crystal forum
its to make the BS of the marine vehicles in line with milita/auxilia
yeah bad aim. kinda bullshit if you ask me since most of the work is probably done by the machine spirit
and removing the astartes keyword is more than enough of a nerf
the document says that reworks will be done to it. i can't wait to see if this ever becomes more important to the meta
arctic talon
and removing the astartes keyword is more than enough of a nerf
astartes keyword doesn't do anything in HH iirc
Its only really the Primarch one that does
crystal forum
astartes keyword doesn't do anything in HH iirc
doesn't it do no retreat stuff
crystal forum
as far as i know it adds a bunch of special rules
arctic talon
yeah HH adopted the 8e keyword system
which is funny
HH is prolly the best version of the like 3e onwards system
only issue is no Xenos and almost everyone is playing marines bcs well its the horus heresy lmao
crystal forum
only issue is no Xenos and almost everyone is playing marines *bcs well its the ...
i don't get that. i thought xenos were a part of HH stuff too
arctic talon
They are
but HH used to literally just be only marines
it slowly got more stuff added
but GW doesn't want to touch the Xenos can of worms yet
also bcs every xenos faction would just be using 40k models
esp Eldar
crystal forum
also bcs every xenos faction would just be using 40k models
yeah that's why it would be so easy to add them imo. they all still use the same equipment and GW could make more sales
crystal forum
and yet they sell 3 different marine armours that all do the same thing lol
arctic talon
most of the non marine factions either skew weak or strong lol
arctic talon
and yet they sell 3 different marine armours that all do the same thing lol
its for the armorheads
who scream about eras
crystal forum
would be fun if they had stat changes
arctic talon
tbh then you'd have no reason but to run MKIV and MKVI
crystal forum
what if they gave more accuracy or mobility
arctic talon
it would still be MKIV and MKVI on top
from a lore perspective
Maximus armor is just objectively the best heresy era armor
for general use
crystal forum
Forgeworld pricing is dumb
HH stuff is forge world even on the GW store?
crystal forum
the vehicles sometimes are partialy resin
the forge world land raider is literally double the price of the GW store one
crystal forum
what the fuck
crystal forum
no the armoured proteus
arctic talon
no
its just forgeworld pricing has always been stupid
forgeworld has arguably gotten cheaper
for individual characters
esp their HH line
crystal forum
is the reason they dont merge the stores is so new people don't get cultural shock from forge world prices
i remember there being a separate tag for assembling a titan on forge world. kinda lame they removed that considering how expensive those things are
arctic talon
is the reason they dont merge the stores is so new people don't get cultural sho...
No bcs forgeworld is entierly resin and they usually focus on specialist games now
forge world used to have way more 40k
till their great cull
crystal forum
till their great cull
what cull
arctic talon
they purged a bunch of product lines and producs that weren't selling well
I.E hazardous environment guardsmen
kroot
Eldar Corsairs, Eldar Exodites
Lost and the Damned
crystal forum
thank fuck for printing so i can have this stuff
arctic talon
Chaos dwarfs
though ig chaos dwarfs were dead for a while
technically
they were just selling the minis
crystal forum
they were still selling them past the 90's?
arctic talon
oh yeah necron canopteks
a few of them
Elysium
D-99
oh yeah and a bunch of random vehicles
like the knock off warthog
crystal forum
please tell me you have a list
arctic talon
arctic talon
please tell me you have a list
I don't have a list of everything that got culled
crystal forum
i need to know what i have to print
arctic talon
but everything I mentioned is like the general gist of it
gona be honest
most of those don't even have rules anymore
some of them do in legends
but this was a purging pre legends
crystal forum
man
crystal forum
this shit would be so good for militia kitbashing
arctic talon
just remember the hellhound used to be full resin
crystal forum
holy fuck it had a turret
arctic talon
oh yeah the Tallaran and Elysium sentinels went to hell as well
though I'm like 99% sure this shit had no difference from a normal scout sentinel
arctic talon
oh yeah a bunch of horus heresy stuff also went
Destroyer squads got entierly purged
a bunch of mechanicum vehicles
and some other random marine stuff
elysian sentinel was pretty cool
crystal forum
nice
crystal forum
nobody gives a shit about guardsmen apparently
i think the internet has changed that
recently
arctic talon
nah
peopel liked guard back then
but no one bought elysium
or krieg really
Elysium was niche as hell
summer rover
**just remember the hellhound used to be full resin**
it wasn't full resin, it was a kit.
arctic talon
with their rules
arctic talon
it wasn't full resin, it was a kit.
did it have plastic?
summer rover
yee\
arctic talon
oh
huh I remember it being all resin parts
my bad
but forgeworld used to make a bunch of uber niche stuff
all of which got deleted from existance 
crystal forum
old chimera looked so dorky with the turret so far back
arctic talon
also some of the masters were straight up broken as well
iirc
D-99's in particular
summer rover
nah, the graia hellhound was a bitch because it was a big heavy resin tank that you needed to cut up the chimera to slide the kit parts in, and you had to cut out all the supports that kept it in one piece
arctic talon
Ah
summer rover
them things are a nightmare to aeemble.
arctic talon
jfc lol
also this guy
who is like mr.generic inqusitor mc inqusitor face
you've prolly seen art of him before
crystal forum
if the inquisition also prayed every say
arctic talon
but no one bought elysium
bcs their playstyle is super niche
its a hyper mobile low damage objective control based army
which meant that like you didn't do that much killing overall
you couldn't take any tanks
crystal forum
i guess now they're focusing on solar auxilia because it has a bigger niche
summer rover
also because building an IG army has to be done slowly otherwise you get overwhelemed with how much crap you haven't painted and GW forgets that they're paying people to do what their customers are paying to do.
arctic talon
i guess now they're focusing on solar auxilia because it has a bigger niche
nah solar auxilia hasn't gotten a mini in years
summer rover
no, GW just likes throwing out guard armies
arctic talon
the lead designer for them unfortunately passed away
crystal forum
nah solar auxilia hasn't gotten a mini in years
not even the tanks?
arctic talon
all of their stuff is decently old
celest dome
They're getting some in the new Epic game
crystal forum
hell yeah
arctic talon
They're getting some in the new Epic game <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
perfect for my titans to stomp on 
crystal forum
so apprently leman russes were in epic before they were in normal game
look a these dorks
and for some reason land raiders were in first edition
arctic talon
Land raiders are old
crystal forum
i guess everything was space marines back then
arctic talon
if you're wondering when they got named after land it was in like early 2e in a white dwarf lol
summer rover
because some dude kitbashed them, 1st edition has a lot of weird kitbashed stuff like the tube speeder.
crystal forum
if you're wondering when they got named after land it was in like early 2e in a ...
is that why it's stated to be from agricultural vehicles lmao
green loom
Elysians need plastic 
summer rover
i shoulda made a lemen russ with that turret style.
crystal forum
it looks a lot more WW1 right
summer rover
oh right, they were all resin, right? death sentance right there.
arctic talon
Old GW metals were metal
you could beat someone to death with them
I've seen someone drop a metal dread
that shit dented the table lol
summer rover
i mean you could do that with a few of them. a metal dread is like a pound and a half of white metal.
summer rover
great way to settle an argument, having a dread on the table.
arctic talon
I feel like I had a stroke reading this title
summer rover
is that all resin but the treads?
arctic talon
you get an entire lemen russ hull + gun with this lol
print out some treads and you get like 3 for 2 value
bcs forgeworld
crystal forum
I feel like I had a stroke reading this title
i went through an entire journey just to understand what the fuck the idea behind this model is
crystal forum
no the base under the turret used to be for the vanquisher
summer rover
at that point you're better off getting some 3rd party treads because the GW russ parts won't hold it up.
crystal forum
but then they removed the special vanquisher
and they said fuck it just make it a normal battle cannon
crystal forum
which is sad because i really like that long boy vanquisher with the autocannon
summer rover
GW doesn't understand how tank internals work (look any anything made for space marines)
crystal forum
vanquisher still exists
they're way shorter
arctic talon
GW doesn't understand how tank internals work (look any anything made for space ...
GW doesn't care I;d assume lol
crystal forum
mind you those things were probably a bitch to use on tabletop
but they looked so cool
summer rover
vanquiser's the autocannon tank right?
summer rover
oh the one that's proxied with a normal ass russ 98% of the time
crystal forum
just imagine using this thing sideways
summer rover
yeah, they gave it saibot rounds. and then acted like saibot rounds are super special and not what most tanks have
green loom
just imagine using this thing sideways
crystal forum
i really like the coaxial though gngngngn
arctic talon
ngl I really like the new like heavier weapons team
crystal forum
now it's a shitty top turret mounted gun with a krieger using it
arctic talon
also the guy behind the gun vaugely looks like a Armageddon steel legion mini
summer rover
i think they need to be lighter, myself. these are supposed to be man-portable.