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next you'll be suggesting people who aren't white
NOOOO
actually i still can't decide whether sisters of battle were fan service or a genuine effort to put women in 40k
from a marketing standpoint it feels cheap as hell but at least writers treat them with respect
When i get to the point of biulding a stodes army ill include some sisters of silence just for you
Both.
Having been around when SoB were getting popular they were kinda coomerish but also a good way to get girls ot join the game
the problem is 40k as a fanbase is mostly dominated by men
because the setting is VERY macho
I mean this in a scientific way and less of a bigoted way but you get what I mean, im not smart

i like when artists draw them as old or battle scarred women like they should be instead of young and beautiful
This is warhammer 40K after all so if a especially isolated human colony has no choice over time they will develop improvements to their own body depending on their environment
also that too
like even if you are an Arnie sized catachan you can just die from having a face-leech drop from a tree and instantly kill you
Catachan is not a good showcase of a darwinistic place because its not fair seeing as EVERYTHING wants you dead lmao
so catachanians might be smarter than the average guardsman?
A battle scarred women can still be beautiful.
varies from Rambo-Predator style physiques up to people like sly marbo being said to be as big as an ork boy
Not that ridiculous since an average ork is around 6 feet
But with their posture it can get reduced
yeah but as big means also as large
not only as tall
Big can sometime mean just tall
They're telling me that he's wide?
Baby ogryns
Custode
you think?
im not being sarcastic
i didn't expect custodes to be the strongest
they are literally genetically engineered to be that way
i thought they were just a bit stronger than astartes
"a bit" is putting it lightly
Custodes are like ten space marines xD
a custodes is what a space marine is to a guardsman
valdor could probably go toe to toe with a primarch for a while
arent ork nobs huge though
pretty slow too
Bare minimum they clock around 7 to 8 feet
im talking pure muscle power here
with the war boss being averaged 10 feet
The first captain general did fight a primarch if i remeber right
which one?
If we're going by raw physical power alone then I guess I would go with the Ogryn
Alpharius
ogryn would beat an ork nob in an arm wrestling match?
in Solar War? Can't recall
i mean, valdor was also called a "primarch" among custodes
ah, haven't listened that one yet
yes, an ogryn can match a unaugmented average war boss in terms of strength
holy shit
but since war bosses can grow bigger than Ogryns overtime and I'm pretty sure a lot of them are above the weight class of an ogyn
an ogryn has Bane snapped a chaos terminator's spine for example
They "suffer" from an extreme form of gigantism which has been kinda ingrained into them as a human sub-species
in his armour!!??!?
yes
I mean
Nork head butted one and killed it
armor wont protect you when you are that vulnerable
Ogryns dont fuck around
The war boss I mean
also another terminator kills the ogryn afterwards
but like he still fucks the termie up
crushing power armour seems pretty strong
i mean a fully standing Nob and an Ogryn are almost the same size
Yeah so in terms of physical strength they are probably the one with the highest strengths stat in the imperium
you don't really need to crush anything if you just bend it enough to the wrong way
would some beastmen beat them
or mutants
what the ogryn did is the equilavent of just hitting a knight so hard in the head that their neck snaps from a wrong twist
tbf through Nork is the Marbo of Ogryns
They can drag around Chimera transports
An ogryn gets scared, wants to hold big hat mans hand. Big hat man needs 7 surgeries and they still can't save the other 4 fingers.
Yeah but all he received was basically just intelligent implants
and here i thought ogryns were weaker than astartes a couple of weeks ago
Physically speaking is pretty much still just a normal ogryn
Yeah ogryns are "weak" in intelligence
but like
thats because the Imperium keeps them dumb
ogryns can become super smart
My brother in Christ they can suplex Terminator a space marine can't
physically speaking Marbo too is just a catachan lol, i meant in terms of feats
don't they need implants to be smart
Nah
There was a psyker ogryn. was
the implant more or less seems to make them semi-smart while keeping them subservient
like uh
in darktide
the only ogryn with a bonehead implant
is the dumbest one
lmao
the Bodyguard and Bully meanwhile show HIGH intelligence
knowing complex english words and such
they are just blunt
Psyker ogryn was so scary the orks resorted to stealth โ you were a real one
so ogryns aren't genetically dumb?
Kind of yes and no
like i said they are kept dumb
its why they are useful and not culled
its usually down to the planet's leaders on how they are treated
when you keep someone that stupid they'll just do anything you ask them to
They are basically primitive thinking, they live in very harsh worlds so their brains are basically just designed to be basic and you know understand survival stuff
Its why even smart ogryns know when to keep their mouth shut
if they get found out as being too smart something bad can happen to them
that's way more grimdark than i expected
an ogryn otherwise is entirely capable of learning stuff
there's no point in being smart in the world where there's a dinosaur that can bite you in half
Yeah alas
they arent braindead
they are like kids
they are actively exploited and manipulated
They're simple
Yeah they aren't brain dead because in their planets they're basically just Cavemen
That are way too muscular for your own good
because you cannot be genetically dumb as an entire species
so if ogryns were put through school they'd be able to count and stuff?
Their intelligence just basically went to the Stone Age
Like they're capable of you know learning but you know they are way too back that we think that they are dumb
^
Yeah its why i say they are basically kids
the Imperium teaches them the bare necessities of their tasks
and thats it
do they live longer than humans
How to have child soldiers without the children
krieg
Well these child soldiers can rip out a tank's gun and pulverize you to bits with it
on average no, there's lots of different sorts of ogryn, but they're all abhumans and generally on the same average for natural lifespan. unless you m ean in the guard then yes, they tend to outlive the normal guardsman
ok so i know some orks hire ogryns but do all orks generally love them
I'd say "realistically" ogryns might not live too long.
IRL people with gigantism unfortunately tend to die very young, sometimes before they can even reach their 50's
oh yeah
They are basically the same
Because ogryn are big
The lifespan of all humans in 40k is kinda shit
And they smash stuff
ogryn's aren't mutants, they breed true so their condition is a lot more stable than all that.
they are mutants
so are ogryns just really deformed humans or did they naturally adapt to their planet? i know the time scale is not nearly enough for real evolution but how does GW treat it?
you know what i mean
"abhumans" is just a copyright term to not label them as such
They are mutants we tolerate
They are very deformed humans that branched off to be a human sub-species
so basically yes lol
Like all abhumans, it's a result of specialized evolution through constant exposure to their environment
Always headcanoned that Abhumans were just sanctioned, stable mutant strains
Desirable traits and capable of breeding
so their adaptations might cause a lot of problems ye
Yeee
tho i was gonna say
in darktide you can see ogryns got their own special bone structures and such
so they prob evolved enough to have a stable biology
Xenologis also shows that they are adaptable to other mutations like humans
Psyker ogryn aka a nuclear bomb
IRL humans tend to stay in like a "basic" shape so its why people with gigantism just kinda die out
i can just imagine how deadly childbirth is for ogryn mothers
Lmao
also ๐
Oh yeah ogryn psykers are also becoming a thing
all thanks to the Rift
before then the lore said ogryns psykers could not exist as per said by the Ministorum

abhumans are stable and capable of stable breeding populations (capable, not actually having them, the admech are silly), genetic mutations like IRL gigantism tend to cause people to die out because they ain't stable.
Yeah they are basically the nerd rage perk in fallout
ogryn psykers are just culled early on because ogryn are not capapble of the sort of focus required for "safe" use of psychic woooblies.
We literally dont know anything about psyker ogryns
aside from their reveal in the Ghaz book
so its hard to say what is done with them
can you imagine an alpha+ ogryn
that's just an ork.
he can crush you to paste AND turn you into a pretzel with his mind
well the one in Ghaz book was to be excecuted unless the Inquisitor hadn't stepped in right?
very strong psykers?
and got picked from a penal world
INCREDIBLY so
near the top of the chart
like they can put an entire ship's crew to sleep by command for example
ogryn are very dumb and not creative though, so execution would be the same as orks.
yeah i know they're so strong that most die young due to how dangerous unchecked psykers are
Ravenor is a massively powerful psyker and iirc even he isn't an alpha grade
Man I'm hungry
Uses magic to shape you into a pretzel
^
Alphas can literally do that yeah lmao
like i dont think you can even be one in Dark Heresy
because its basically unstoppable power level wise
yeah two alpha twins turned a fleet to dust or something right
what alpha+ psykers are confirmed characters in 40k
uhhh let me think
except malcador and emp
yeah, it's basically giving laser guns to an armored transport truck
okay yeah its literally just Malc and Big E
they can definitely exist in a galaxy this big but i guess nobody just really wrote about them
wouldn't be a good story, sinc they'd be over superman levels.
Whispers into your ear
They're being saved as plot devices
turns out Ravenor is graded as Alpha Plus
Gideon Ravenor was a renowned Inquisitor of the Ordo Xenos in the 4th century of M41. Initially a protege of the infamous Gregor Eisenhorn, Ravenor suffered crippling injuries during an ambush on Thracian Primaris, and was confined to a suspensor chair for the remainder of his life. His confinement only boosted his already formidable psyker abil...
maybe an exaggeration
what about magnus
why does the psyker have the dreamworks face
Bro got that Mister house wheel chair
that psyker's so weak i can kill him with a tire iron
LMAO
poor Mr House
he could save the entirety of the Strip if he wanted
but not himself...

my sister in christ he wants to rule mojave as a dictatorship
I have to make sure he experiences true death so I brought extra c4 
so is magnus an alpha+
wait isn't Enuncia basically just the words of power in Skyrim?
YES
but better
magic is weird to me in 40k
Enuncia is a bit complicated because it was entirely shoved in by Dan Abnett.
you can do magic rituals and shit like it's DND
Yeah but any magic is just psychic powers
what about the rituals though
Same thing
magic in 40k is just psionics
even in darktide the veteran just goes
"Dont question it, its all magic"
but what powers the rituals
warp ooze
Imagine an ork just learns about Enuncia but he only uses it to make a better gun
kek
also yeah
like
you setup a ritual
either use a psyker as bait or as a summoner
or just
pray hard and hope daemons hear you
you can make it stronger like a wifi network by using sigils, sacrifices and other classic ritual stuff
im sorry but i must bring soul drinkers into the conversation again
this dude who wants to become a chaos god does rituals that SOUND very nurgle
he's all about decay and disease
and his shtick is necromancy
but he doesn't serve nurgle
because he says the chaos gods are jealous of him
Its been AWHILE since i read soul drinkers, but thats very much unknowingly serving nurgle and not realising it
also just being outright arrogant
lmao
thats what chaos loves
but he knows he can ascend to godhood
or at least acts like it
and one of the rituals he does is said to be extremely old
Yeah nah thats not that easy, even Vashtorr is a warp-broker and hes nowhere near the powers of a god yet.
Hes basically presented as being gullible and power hungry
and
a lot of people worshipping chaos think thye are hot shit
so chaos servants might not even know they're serving a god
that's so cool
you can sometimes feed them through the most mundane things
for example corpse grinder cults in necromunda basically just grew from workers who just kept watching and watching and tossing and tossing people into grinders, hearing their bones and meat crack
until it eventually drives them mad
and they start worshipping khorne
yeah those street gang chaos worshippers are nothing against the mafia Daemon Princes
Lvl 1 Chaos Thug vs Lvl 100 Daemon Prince Godfather
i just find it interesting that in the entire book nurgle is not mentioned a single time yet this guy's subsector spanning chaos empire is all about disease, eternal disgusting life and rot
Yeah old 40k books tended to do that a lot
aka not treat the reader as a kid
and just put "hints"
and let you figure out whats happening
so you're saying i'll be extremely disappointed once i start reading other books
time to read salamanders
DONT DO IT
imagine if it had it go something like this: "yeah we do these things because our great great great grandfather Nergle invented this"
it's funny because in the previous book nurgle is mentioned a lot
like when soul drinkers assault a nurgle planet
and tzeentch is also mentioned but i will not say why

and at the end of a book the godspear is finally used in combat and i literally yelled out YEEEEEEESSS
luv me old 40k books
my first astartes minis will definitely be soul drinkers but their chapter symbol and paint colour is pretty hard to do
Hand painting symbols sucks but im commited
I've freehanded blood angels heraldry so I've mastered them all
have you done lamenters though
not yet, on the list, but done plenty of checkers
how do you even freehand checkers
steady hands I guess ๐
it's unimaginable to do such geometric shit for me
I scetch them with very thin grey on the model first usually
then just work up from there
If you have an ink printer, decal paper is actually a good investment
do you do tic tac toe lines or do you do squares individually
lines first
i understand being able to make straight lines on flat paper but on a curved shoulder pad seems impossible
it probably needs a couple sketch lines but it'll come out straight after a few tries
do you use tools to make sure it's perfectly straight after sketching
this looks so good
yoooo that's clean
Thanks, there's a year's worth of progress between the white checker termie and yellow knee termie by the way. Not sure if the progress is as notable to others as it is to me
yeah the squares look a lot more symetrical
Don't you just love it when you're looking for ideas to make a new warhammer 40K character then something just suddenly clicked
i see that it's not that easy to get it all perfectly sized equally
it's like learning to draw perspective in paper drawing but on a physical piece
oooh what's your eureka idea?
a Goff Rocker that is inspired by this guy
I will begin the preparations of making him later
i'll be honest i have no idea who that is
Chai From hi fi rush
I never played it yet but i can make a character based on him so why not
Canโt wait ti memorize all the lore for the badab war and do nothing with this infomrtion
It's really good, I recommend it
I'll keep that in mind right now I need a better graphics card to run it
it's a 2023 ps5 game
Eh, I played it on pc with gamepass and it was like, less than 20gb so I thought it was light
But I do have a 3080 and yadda yadda so I don't really know anymore
I mean when most releases are 100 or plus
yeah
I'm using a AMD Radeon(tm) vega 3 graphics, that is not good enough to run that
it's crazy
Sadge, anyhow i still reccomend it, only release i played in 2023 that I managed to 100% without encountering a single issue
triple A games don't even try optimizing space usage anymore
They don't have time to, need to be rushed out
it's all about cramming as many huge models as possible
I will keep it in mind
Though I have to say I'm quite happy that I can somehow get 60 fps in darktide sometimes while I can barely run VT2
Right now my PC has potato graphics so i am not going to kill it by running games like that
I play vt2 from GeForce now only cause I don't want to download it
wait you have a 3080 and you stream games?
just give nvidia all your money why dont ya
Lol, I was a beta tester for Now so I didn't pay my first two years
I just cancelled my founders since I can't use it anymore
Also I use it cause I still have to update my processor/actually buy an ssd or something
Between the worsening input lag and me not being home
still it's such an annoying service when you're cock blocked by anti mining features
??
you get kicked out for playing too long
Oh, that depends on the subscription
Yeah my sessions were 6 hours
And it's less anti mining and more so everyone gets a rig iirc
nah they have more than enough rigs
nvidia really hates miners who don't pay a premium
which understandable. fuck those guys
Also didn't know you could mine using now lol
you can mine with anything
you don't have to pay for electricity fees so it would be super cheap to just use now
i just hope the future of gaming isn't streaming. it feels like it's inevitable because companies fucking love subscription services
oh and i forgot to mention, geforce now even uses nvidia's cards which were designed for mining
unless they changed it
It uses 4090's
Or well, Atleast the higher subscription does
Rest use 3080/90 if I rememeber right
then my information is outdated
Subscription yes, streaming no, it's still much too early for that
yeah bandwidth limits thankfully will delay it a lot
people who can't afford good PC's generally don't have the best internet either
And also the fact we are reaching the limits of what a graphic card can do when sold in a reasonable size
Or pcs will just have to be a bit bigger in the future
i'm glad we're reaching a limit. we don't need better graphics anymore
hopefully a stagnation of graphics technology will force games to not rely on flashy visuals anymore
or at least they'll start being creative with it like they used to do in the 2000's
Yeah all games right now are becoming nature documentary levels of quality they don't do things like you know bolt gun or hifi rush
Those games don't look realistic but the game play is just satisfying
Another reason why I loved hi fi rush, style over realism/extremely good graphics
thank god for the Japanese gaming industry 
Also another note indie games have gotten to the point that they are better than AAA more times than not
I mean look at battle bit
Oh shit i forgot tango gameswork was japanese
That thing looks like Minecraft but it plays and handles better than battlefield
yeah that's not even a "sometimes" thing anymore lol
triple A FPS games are straight up garbage
yeah the art style hinted it to me but i had to make sure
Yeah, also funny how I can't connect the two as I always associate tango with The evil within
and evil within is resident evil lol
part of the reason i love resident evil is how painfully japanese it is even though it's about americans
idk why people loved evil within 2 so much
it's not bad, just not really good imo
Idk my internet is fine
Deep Rock?

deep rock is proof that you don't need flashy visuals to have a good game
DRG's biggest issue is the core gameplay gets boring fast
especially once you realise you got nothing to do but grind levels and overclocks
i tried to get back into it but the updates are just not interesting to me anymore
also the robots and biophage enemies suck
At least the level generation is good, and I play it when I have nothing else to play, unlike a certain game that starts with the letter D
The level generation is so-and-so
i encountered a bit too many samey levels which kinda surprised me
since everything is RNG lol
clearly we have different tastes because this is what i love doing
YEET
i can pretend to be a dwarf
i don't like how the modern gaming industry has conditioned us to seek new things ALL the time
Itโs weird because l4d doesnโt suffer teh same issue as hard
Rock and stone!
I mean thats what DRG does too tho
Rock and stone
literally add eyecandy items and let you play the game to earn them
always something to complete and acquire
its subtle but good way to bring players in and weave em in
L4D is just simple
in a very good way
its timeless
L4d is a game id play again if i just had friends
same
L4D's appeal is also you can just pick it up and play it at any time
theres no proper learning curve
you just shoot zombies with some thinking involved
Not only that you can also earn eyecandy by just playing the game normally
you can quickly run out of stuff to acquire
I gave up after 1,131 hours 
even then i was kinda gaslighting myself into keep playing the game
Hey dilara one of these days we should play l4d 
the infection update just kinda bored the game for me
why the fuck did you say the gameplay gets old
I mostly play Drg now cause of the community
I LITERALLY JUST SAID
I gaslighted myself into keep playing
mostly because DT wasnt out yet
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Always nice to find people actually socializing in the hub areas
for 1k hours!!?!
I gaslight myself into enjoying tarkov
I will say the additions are a bit empty but still it's still a good game it's one of the few games where I can genuinely feel like a war criminal
I'm looking at you driller
see i have ADHD so my one wish is to be a normal fucking person and find a single game i can love for years ๐
I got a few
Why would you regret playing as someone that carries three weapons that can potentially violate geneva conventions by just breathing on them?
i wish i could do that
Rn I'm just waiting for Helldivers to scratch that horde shooter itch
I need to play that game
Old
be sure to download the fan patch
vanilla game is borderline unplayable
^
Ye
Activision bullied the studio that was making the game Troika to push it out early
it killed the company
Bloodlines is their last swan song
its incredibly tragic
i got stuck at the first location after becoming a vampire for hours
Yeah you need the fan patch
hey i did manage to find my way out
Shitvision literally pushed out an unfinished version of it that wasnt even properly playtested lmao
it got stomped by Half Life 2
and some other titles
activision, same recipe since 2001
only now they are getting their comeuppance lol
In deep rock galactic I'm more of a gunner myself, right now I am leveling and trying out driller, but if anything I am happy with my dwarf
somewhat at least
Bloodhuny is ok
yeah you remember what happened to prototype when Activision decided to get their grubby hands on it?
My brother in Christ the first one was ******* amazing then the second one
dude ๐ญ
2000's games being massacred by triple A studios
Alex Mercer is better than James Heller, I will fight you for it if I must prove my point
can you fucking imagine being born in 2010 and never having played any of this stuff
^
poor young people
the mid 2000's was a golden age for people like us

now its just uh
fortnite idk
It's not the worst game to be honest but the holy crap the community is so unwelcoming
Why does that feel familiar ?
literally the best era of video games and millenials act like their 8 bit calculators are the best
I remember "Save the World"
And the original trailers
Did you know it was supposed to be a co op hero horde defense game?
Heroes 6 opening
"graphics havent improved as much as it did in the 90's" i want to punch millennial gamers so badly
i will punch anyone who thinks graphics are what equals a good game
minecraft came out in like 1924 and i still play it from time to time

I think artstyle/design overshadows how many pixels are on a cable you barely se
^
I will literally rip out the sludge gun from deep rock galactic and shoot them in the face with it
it's just annoying when they compare changing entire bit sizes of systems to adding more polygons
its the entire reason i always hated consoles
well after the PS3 that is
pour one out for our boy
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ps3 and xbox 360 were the peak of gaming
The cable on the thunder hammer has 2 million faces
I loved when i bought a PS4
and it could barely hold like 2 games installed
compared to the gigachad PS3
WHICH CAN HOLD LIKE 10
It's so overdone that using it makes my game lag
and ps3 doesn't require a subscription
^
Its just so corpo'y
but Sony so lol
or whoever tf made the PS i dont even remember
all these companies mix together
remember when gamers were pissed that game graphics were capped by ps3 and xbox 360
tbh it was pretty bad at times
those consoles lasted like 8 years
i remember the far cry 3 E3 trailer causing so much controversy
same
now its literally the biggest death knell for Far cry as a franchise
literally every new game in it hides in its shadow

god I forgot how fucking goofy Vaas looked in this
for some reason pyrocynical has a comment from 9 years ago under this video
Omg look it's Ignacio "Nacho" Varga
it's the same actor
I know
i was like that once upon a time in hollywood leo dicaprio meme when i saw him
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i love when game trailers don't lazily use a remixed boomer song to sell shit
It wasn't remixed, that's the song
that's what i said
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i still can't fogive how call of duty black ops III butchered the rolling stones
GOD
dont remind me
also BO3 butchered everything honestly
every time I play chasm terminus
all I can hear is
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oh yeah i bought black ops 3 a year ago and im very disappointed
i stopped playing after black ops 2
thankfully
Apparently infinite warfare isn't bad despite the bad rep
Yeah its fun
just nothing amazing
but it just got treated too harsly because cod was on a MASSIVE sci-fi high at the time
im a zombies fan for life so im buying the newer black ops games to see how much they fucked it up
40k fans be like
"We have the most confusing lore."
i can give you a 4 hours rant about how zombies has degenerated
the introduction of timelines was the biggest step in the lazy direction for BO3
Castro agruing with jfk
the story is ok still but it gets so bad eventually
yeah thats where it goes SUPER downhill
the time travel and alternate universe shit was bad
in BO1 and BO2 the zombies story didn't take themselves seriously
I liked it when it was just a crazy nazi experiment gon awry
not uh
fucking warp chaos god nonsense
Don't forget they also made the Upside Down from stranger things in Cold war
also godzilla
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No I meant in the zombie storyline
Still one of the cooler one
Mob of the Dead my beloved
i can still vividly remember watching theory videos as a 10 year old kid and how kino der toten's blood spurting mannequin proves 10 different ideas
Don't even remind me of that Call of Duty event like what the hell the hype was already over, they didn't even release that event near the time the movie released
"We must have been through this 50 times already."
"And we'll go through it another 50 times if we must."
Amazing foreshadowing as ever btw, we had no idea back then
kino der toten is still my favorite map
Kino is
I mean I mean
if you will
Five
lmao
The map yeah
going into the labs
sdfklldskds
just the whole
"wait wheres the zombies"
"whats this alarm"
"is that an old man"
"AA-"
Also yeah, the Pentagon thief is also the guy that in the new time line opens up the multiple universes
and 1 WEEK of doing it during holiday school days
constantly
guess how long it took me to do it on black ops 3
16 hours
so i bought cold war when it came out
mind you the last zombies game i played was black ops 2
The cutscenes are nice
and i still play the OG's occasionally
I just play dmz and shipment
But uh
You get no ammo
And all the germans look like they're from the early french army in WW1
so apparently im a pro zombies player just by being an above average classic zombies player
Because they're all in fkn sky blue
the games are so easy now
like eveybody kept saying i was a god even though i hadent played the game before lol
im usually terrible at games so this was new for me
classic zombies just makes you really good at training zombies
especially since newer zombies lets you get hit like 6 times before going down and you get heal items too
Yeah new zombies once you farm a bit attachments and stuff for weapons becomes a cakewalk
but maps are lazy as hell and zombies hit you instantly unlike the animation dependent classics so it's also harder to use movement skill
the removal of the classic wall buying gameplay was interesting in cold war
i kinda liked it even though the box was nearly useless and the wall buys were completely useless
you could just start a match with your favorite gun and upgrade it from there
but cold war is just a DLC for warzone lol
activision isn't even trying to hide it anymore that 90% of players get their other games just to unlock OP shit in warzone
And now that they introduced dominion style gamemode in warzone it's not even needed
If I saw Cuu, Erebus, and horus in a room, and I had a powersword and could stabany 2 , I'd stab cuu twice
Lijah fething cuuh
im so fucking mad that brostin doesn't get a lexicanum page
my favorite tanith dude
Cuu is a good showcase of how you dont need to make an evil and asshole/hateable character a supervillain tier threat
the shit he gets away with is a bit flimsy but serves the plot at least
welp today i spoiled myself that corbec dies
You just make.him completely invisible
no idea. i've only read a single tanith omnibus
I just say I finished book 6 and you spoil a later book
i thought that was why you hated cuuh
i just looked him up im sorry ๐ญ
When reading about guard I like to keep in mind the description of the Lvl 30 profile trim in darktide
"don't kid yourself, you're going to die here"
he does a ton of other dickhead or evil things, before that and gets away scot free, the wiki are pretty useless for gaunt's ghosts
yeah there's just so many tanith books
my only experience with them is the liberation of gereon and 2 more stories so they seem very plot armour-y
Cuuh has even more plot armour, and kills main characters repeatedly,
oh so is that the point where dan thinks he made way too many characters so he culls a few lol
Any time a non super main character saw him try to kill someone they got magically hit by a mortar instantly
Twice in one book
i love Dan but he really needs to stop writing for 40k like he's still writing marvel stuff
not every character death has to be something you can see from 10 miles away
like christ in the 4 books i read only 1 character dies and 2 books keep mentioning him constantly
meanwhile in soul drinkers, characters die for no reason all the time and you're never sure who's safe
Can you imagine if a main character just randomly died because a stray botler round turned his skull into a crater, thatd be fucking awesome
YES that's literally what happens in the soul drinker books
a sergeant that was present for 3 books suddenly dies to a chaos beast out of nowhere
like that's how war is. dying for no damn reason
Not everybody gets a heroic death
his face gets melted off too lol
If a never before seen Named unit or individual pops up in GG,90% they die by the end of the chapter
I've noticed that happen also in soul drinkers but it's not always like that and unless they immediately die they'll stay for quite a bit until you come to like them
space marine books seem to often pull names out of nowhere just to immediately die
Dan does it purely to annoy I think as I can't keep track
yeah that's a problem i noticed with a lot of 40k books
they often treat unnamed soldiers way too weakly so they have to pull names to create the faintest sense of attachment for the reader before killing them
it has a lot to do with authors not wanting to kill main characters
if the reader gets the impression that the story would still continue after the death of the main character then it adds a ton of suspense
Love how the white scars reaction to seeing 3 CM's die one after the other was:
"Fuck, dad must not be pleased, let's throw a party so that we can win more"
And it worked
Well, it worked innit ?
Also just learned that apparently half their home system is still under red corsairs hands
don't worry they'll transplant his brain into an armored wheeled coffin and he'll go faster than everyone else
But I never think they'd kill gaunt
Funny cause it's actually going better for them since he got crippled
And he basically acts as the chapter's Tactical Droid
he discovered he had a hitherto unknown really high elo at rts games, much better than his ranking in fps
I mean he does get a bunch of fake outs
He discovered that not only he had a big bike, but also a big brain
Okay... This is how Asha ends up in the employ of Solomon Al'Ismir, Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor. Solomon had been anxiously awaiting the scheduled check-in of a trusted operator, as during the last check the operator mentioned that the Slaanesh Pleasure cult they had been infiltrating had become strangely agitated. Talk of several mid-to-high-ranking cultists suddenly turning up dead in their homes. No sign of how the killer got in, and the death of the cultist was sometimes not noticed for HOURS.
This+Animated siege of vraks timeline
"Is this thing on?"
"Yes, it is on."
Two voices on the encrypted transmission. One is familiar, the other is not. The unfamiliar voice mutters something about 'obsession with skulls,' before continuing.
"I am Ash," The voice says in a soft rasp. "For that is all that is left when I have dealt with my enemies. Your agent has convinced me to lend a hand with the purging of this cult..."
Again? Isn't it still unfinished?
Or Atleast i remember it not covering up to the end
Language barriers my friend
Oh I just looked I watched part 1-6
The all in one peosode
Video*
I guess I forgot to watch the rest
The assumption is that Asha has been kicking around for long enough that she's gained a reasonable understanding of low gothic.
Then sounds good
We are up to the 11 episode now
But in summary, Ash was living up to his In-nin inspiration and was quietly assassinating members of the pleasure cult. Before the Agent of the Inquistion found Ash and managed to convince the Operator that he wasn't actually with the cult.
stares at the legions of chapters using almost the same colour's of their parent legion
I have the exact same complaint for loyalists too lmao
Also I didn't know there was this many red csm?
Theresa a lot
Like, I'm honest cause I don't really follow the minor chaos warbands too much as they manage to have even less lore than Chapter Index entries sometimes
Angrons chosen/fury/ 90 other things but thatโs cheating
Apostles of minrath
Just take a shot every time you see red
I'm gonna die am I?
Yes
Imma just keep a running tally....
Oh God I'm from my phone I only see colored blurs
LMAo
Also thsi doenst include the new primaris chapters
And that's only counting BA successors

Now count all Dark angels successors too
And then all the unrelated chapters with angel names
Emperorโs fucking anything
Stop... Please
I mean, still better than the Genesis Chapter, Omegamarines and Metamarines
get it
THE BLOOD JUICE CHAPTER
like Atlantis
maybe
Horus was right in wanting to blow everyone up

he was trying to save us from this
Lol
Also Cawl when he released the unpainted sons
lol
My BA are the cooliest ๐
Weird thr charnel guard donโt have that much. They are kinda popular and have cool gimmick of specializing in complete extermination
Theyโre forgeworld pet faction
Next question lol
They get almost no lore
Yeah but not even a colorscheme
Thereโs enough custom decals on sale for their popularity to be considerable
Based on the dread
Iโd assume black body red shoulders
Would be their actual scheme
Ah reverse flesh tearers
Also their chapter symbol is the most vampire bullshit ever
It really does carry them
Blood Angels

Angels Sanguine

@arctic talon @crimson kayak Had a thought! Limbo and his theorems! The complex mathematics that underpins the Limbo Warframe's Spatial powers! What if, while sharing some of those theorems with the Adeptus Mechanicus, someone else finds the signal, and replies back with more math?
Consider Limbo's dimension like the Webway
And it would be something no human in 40k would be able to recreate for the simple reason it requires the void to work
Unless the imperium build the Zariman II that is
Wich could be funny seeing them throw a black ship into a void fissure or something just to see what happens
I thought of Limbo getting into this whole 'talking through technique' conversation with a certain Necron, Trazyn the Infinite.
Could be a fun interaction having Limbo held in a Tesseract and then just skipping dimensions
Like, Trazyn locks him up, then two minutes later from behind him "so as I was saying"
I think it would be something a bit more cheeky... "How rude! Knowledge is to be carefully recorded and shared! Not locked away!"
(Asha's gotten into the habit of letting the Prime warframe's personality come to the fore. Limbo is a bit of a gadfly.)
the Juice Drinkers
Been meaning to ask about this does anyone know what kind of pauldron this is? I assumed it was a techmarines pauldron but the marine himself is not a techmarine. (For context I bought the squad second-hand and they came semi mismatched and pre assembled)
looks like it might be molded into the launcher. check that a bit closer, they do that with some kits.
quick question for the loremasters. Do we know where Atoma Prime/Moebian Domain is on the interstellar map? Also, is this an up-to-date version or is there a better one for me to reference?
You think the fact we get cadian rejects mean itโs not too far from there?
But it should be relatively close to cadia technically speaking, or else I don't know why a cadian would be present
Ye i think
Then again we also get a lot of catachan equipment
No the knive and blades
Oh that's just a weapon pattern
Doesn't matter
We get equipment from kinda all over the galaxy
Could have sworn catachan blades are made with materials from catachan as itโs one of the only things they export besides jungle fighters
I feel like we live just on the border below Segmentum Obscurus
Yes all weapon patterns are mostly produced on the world of its name
the rejects are all pulled from the nearby worlds listed in the character creator, so if you can extract the full map from the game you could tell from that. no idea who to ask for that.
oh wait, i guess thr forums. i'll go do that.
Cadians get dumped everywhere constantly
Tbf the Moebian domain spans 3 entire sectors
A quick glimpse of the wiki mentions that it borders disputed wilderness space (and mentions the Mobeian regiments fighting both xenos AND chaos) called the 'Fringe,' which may or may not be related to the Eastern Fringe? but i guess otherwise confirms Moebian Domain is bordering one corner of the map near the scar.
No fringe it's because it's the domain's border
Ench why they are called Fringe Worlds and fringe wars
ahhh i see
Mostly death worlds and similar it seems to be
mentioning of wilderness space still puts it way out in the borders of known space tho right?
May be, but galaxy's borders are large too
FS should really give us the ability to look back on our character's background again. All I can remember from each of my class is what planet they originated from, I've forgotten everything else at this point.
Yes that would be great
You can tell by the colour of your prisoner fatigues 
Only tells you want your crime was
i screenshot the final result for my last dude, but i wish i'd done it for my vet.
Think my zealot was Crucis, Ogryn was Branx Magna, Vet was Pavane, and Psyker was Incron.
hemoglobin heroes
I wonder why we couldnโt have our characters come from tertium? There were plenty of criminals around to draw from
It sounds like most of the criminal element in Tertium may have been swept up by the Cult of Nurgle, in one sense or another.
opratives from the hive would be at risk of being in league with the cult.
Its just a game decision
you could be a part of a chaos cult from any imperial world
So Zola must be have done something major to earn the inquisitions trust then
zola has been working as an inquisitoral agent for some time, they are not considered a loyalty risk
I mean no again, the cult has been probably operating out of the planet for decades considering their numbers/firepower, she just got picked because shes good at what she does hence her Explicator status
I feel like you guys are reading too much into a place the devs probably just didn't really bother to explain 
Yeah, itโs fun to speculate
let's speculate about the emperor instead
Also we simply dont know
the Imperium doesnt own the galaxy
and theres wilderness of space between every collection of planets
i mean they DO but they don't keep close tabs on everthing
Nah they dont
the Imperium's entire picture is the roman empire where they are stretched to the limit
they lose and gain planets daily
it doesnt own the galaxy more or less lays claim to it because space-nazis
The Imperium is like an old wet rag that has so many holes in it that it's basically garbage
^
Just place that on a map and thats basically them
humans are just around because we breed like rats
the Imperium doesnt have a dominant foothold on anywhere that isnt Segmentum Solar
it doesn't even fully control that place either
That too lmao
somewhere around here. We have information that it is not in the Nihilus side of the rift and it's about the same distance from terra as Necromunda is but the opposite direction
Ultramar is probably more secure than Terra at this point tbh
That reminds me Iโm pretty sure in the imperium the births rates per person must be similar to the Industrial Revolution given how many people the go through
Plague Wars Moment
also makes sence when Agrapinaa, Cadia and Armageddon are in that proximity when all of those are mentioned in game as well
Hive worlds have populations in the tens of Billions or something
nah they mostly just have so many worlds to pull manpower from
And more militant worlds like Cadia have full on breeding programs
where the mechanicus culls the population of a world
because it gets overpopulated

we dont talk about infinite manpower regiments
named regiments have nonsensical amounts of guardsmen
hive worlds probably automatically regulate their populations with famines
too many people = famine
and then the problem is gone
terra probably culls the population themselves
The imperial tithe normally handles that problem. More soldiers for the meat grinder
actually i don't get why the peasant class even exists on terra. does it have any manufacturing?
I mean it exists because its a hive-world
sometimes you literally got nothing to do
that makes a lot of sense, thank you!
and oo, okay. Right next to the eye of terror? LMAO
So, 40k cocktails... think they're neat or no?
if that was the case then custodes and others would just kill everybody who isn't noble
like why even have them if they do nothing
Custodes need to guard Big E
also bruh
theres literally people everywhere
Terra is a world covered in cities
It's a holy site where people flock to
yeah but it's terra




