#40k-lore-chat

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storm jungle
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"Oh they did THIS during the UNification Wars, fighting against the cyber-death-commandoes of the panpacific coalition bla bla bla"

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Its a lot of snippets like that interconnected together

crystal forum
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wait and the writers kept it so consistent that the community could piece together an actual timeline?

storm jungle
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Kinda yeah

rose thorn
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day -since before i was born- of me wanting a badab war book series

crystal forum
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that's crazy

storm jungle
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Yeeee

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its why i recommend just using the Lexi

green loom
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They have an entire professional company more or less dedicated to writing and curating the HH

crystal forum
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people talk shit about 40k continuity but damn

storm jungle
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Unfortunately the books also dropped in quality

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after the head writer Alan Bligh died

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he was also the one behind Imperial Armor

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one of the best series' GW had

rose thorn
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oo which HH books we talking about?

storm jungle
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not books uh

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the black books aka fancier codexes, theres 13 of them

green loom
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40k continuity does suck

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Because it's permanently stuck in either 999M41 or 000M42

rose thorn
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googels

storm jungle
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Yeah with 30k we literally got an entire written timeline

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because they fleshed it out with over 60+ books

rose thorn
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OH GOD

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WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS

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bro these look like those giant books in schoo libraries of like all of human knowledge 7 years ago

crystal forum
storm jungle
crystal forum
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i saw lion and i clapped!

green loom
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Mfw Dark Angels books vilmar

storm jungle
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ITS A MARK V CORVUS ARMOR

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I KNOW WHAT THAT IS

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I CLAPPED

green loom
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Somehow all Dark Angels books just suck

rose thorn
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HH books are cool for like, if you wanan kow about specific faction

storm jungle
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also yeah that

rose thorn
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BUT LIKE PLS ITS JUST HUMANS

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HUMANS ON HUMANS ON HUMANS

storm jungle
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he only universally SHIT HH books are the Salamander and Dark Angel ones

rose thorn
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gimme a fucking HH eldar book

storm jungle
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best i can give you is fulgrim virus bombing some eldar

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and choking an avatar of khaine

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you know

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a fucking magma statue

green loom
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Or Vulkan massacring Eldar and his own kidnapped people for being kidnapped

crystal forum
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i don't enjoy anything that involves fulgrim but that might not be the writer's fault

rose thorn
green loom
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Yeah but that's a Fallen book, not DA KEKW_ogryn

storm jungle
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nice one Ed, we got em

rose thorn
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oh, sorry auto bot

arctic talon
rose thorn
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consuming behinds

green loom
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It's more focused on luther and what he did than the Dark Angels

rose thorn
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is blocked

storm jungle
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sdfkjsdkjdskj

arctic talon
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Why does discord still give me message requests

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When I block someone

green loom
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The only cool bit is the different Grand Masters showing up

arctic talon
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This app fucking sucks sometimes

green loom
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And it being revealed that Farith was the first SupremeGM

rose thorn
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dont ask

crystal forum
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dark angels do seem like a one trick pony sort of chapter

rose thorn
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ever

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there is a reason the 'sum up of the attack on terra; said EC was just doin stuff

storm jungle
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Dark Angels have only now started to change in 2023 after like 20 years of being a one-trick pony chapter

green loom
storm jungle
green loom
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They're always chasing or fighting Fallen

storm jungle
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Yeah it fucking sucks

green loom
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Fallen Fallen Fallen Fallen

storm jungle
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Im literally

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getting Transformers 2 Revenge of the Fallen flashbacks

rose thorn
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there are 3 things all EC fans say cannon

storm jungle
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from consumign so much DA lore

storm jungle
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lmao

rose thorn
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fulgrim is possessed
bile is not apart of EC anymore
and they jsut did murder and shit on terra

storm jungle
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Nah like

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the terra thing was ALWAYS canon

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Fulgrim's possession is very wacky

crystal forum
rose thorn
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yeah but

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fulgrim said he was unpossessed

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and let his men open him up

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and do suergery to remove the demon that wasnt there from him

crystal forum
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so if lion dies to angron do dark angels go back to just doing their own shit

rose thorn
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surgery*

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because he wanted to feel the pain???

storm jungle
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Yeah that part i got no idea, no EC fan likes that part much lmao

arctic talon
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“Surgery”

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It was a

arctic talon
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Writers barely disguised fetish

storm jungle
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They shoved some stuff up his A-

crystal forum
arctic talon
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Yeah a pear of agony

rose thorn
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dont ask how fulrgim trapped a demon in a painting

green loom
crystal forum
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why does fulgrim do half the shit he does

rose thorn
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pls in like, the EC book that releases with the EC army, they can jsut say 'yeah nah the demon was fucking with them and is totally in fulgrim'

storm jungle
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because hes far gone

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also he gets bored

arctic talon
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Inb4 we get the daemon in a painting

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As a mini

storm jungle
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Lmao

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id love a canvas lord

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very easy to paint

arctic talon
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It turns out it is fulgrim

green loom
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Also you know what's funny

arctic talon
green loom
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The fulgrim clone

crystal forum
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there's a part in the soul drinkers books that a demon is straight up a gun

green loom
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Is 100% not fulgrim

storm jungle
arctic talon
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There’s a daemon in a more recent book

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That’s a literal sea of shit

rose thorn
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as yes the nurgle fisherman

green loom
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Bile just found him wandering in one of his abandoned labs
And it's specifically noted that something else took root in him

arctic talon
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Nurgle daemon Kek

crystal forum
rose thorn
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also pls gw give us more demons, pls pls psl

arctic talon
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Every faction

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Is getting at least one mini this edition

rose thorn
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all the gods need like, oen mroe demon unit

arctic talon
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During their codex launch

green loom
rose thorn
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dont do the fucking 'complmentrary hero on rock'

arctic talon
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Ngl

rose thorn
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give me a fucking unit of armored blood letters

crystal forum
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i have no clue how you all read so many 40k books when a single chapter of this soul drinker stuff is like months of material for me

arctic talon
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But running an all character daemon army isn’t suicide now

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Tbh

green loom
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Isn't that just Exalted Bloodlettees

green loom
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And one of those was on Audible

rose thorn
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that isnt in the fucking t able top

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for NO REASON

arctic talon
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Exalted bloodletters are on the tabletop akshully

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🤓

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Or rather were

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They were a points upgrade

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Originally

rose thorn
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id fucking take that

green loom
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Frankly I don't know how I learned of all the random shit I know smilecat

rose thorn
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the durkhari traitment

arctic talon
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Same with exalted of every lesser daemon type

rose thorn
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treatment*

arctic talon
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They were awful unfortunately

queen laurel
arctic talon
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Is the sad answer

rose thorn
arctic talon
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Yeah

crystal forum
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also apparently demon lords can rip open space hulks like sardine cans

arctic talon
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I don’t think it’s harmful

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To have bad units

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Especially in a big faction

green loom
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An entire Tyranid tendril got wiped out by one sword swing at some point iirc

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You don't mess with daemons on their turf

rose thorn
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damn this is cool

queen laurel
arctic talon
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So they aren’t Uber strong

rose thorn
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funnily i think tzeentch dont need an exualted foot soldier

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since thats waht pink horror basically are supposed to be

arctic talon
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They had higher Strength more attacks and higher toughness

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They just costed too much

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For it to be worth it

rose thorn
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but all the horrors have been changed so much i have no cleu waht the difference is anymore

crystal forum
queen laurel
arctic talon
rose thorn
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do they still split?

arctic talon
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Pink is pretty much an exalted blue horror

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And yes

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They split for free now

rose thorn
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FUCK YEAHH

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okay time to buy 2 units of blue horrors

green loom
rose thorn
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i love that the tzeentch cultists

queen laurel
rose thorn
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are just AOS dudes

green loom
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I already have to read American Gods and write a 15k word essay on it Sitgryn

crystal forum
rose thorn
crystal forum
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figured i should read it before the amazon series comes out

rose thorn
queen laurel
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Tzeentch melee units are born out of necessity huh

rose thorn
green loom
rose thorn
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they are a horde unit

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and are just meant to get sacrified for shit

arctic talon
queen laurel
green loom
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AoS models are all based

arctic talon
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Tzeentch still took chaos warriors

rose thorn
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in a subfaction that you can trade each model into a tzaangore

arctic talon
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In AoS

rose thorn
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model

arctic talon
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And marauders

rose thorn
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its so funny

queen laurel
rose thorn
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here is the REAL melee unit

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he hits shit so hard he casts spells

green loom
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Idk it just reminds me of a head of cabbage, very condensed from the front

crystal forum
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shadow wizard money gang

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we love casting spells

queen laurel
crystal forum
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he's doing it in a conspiratorial way

arctic talon
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Yeah but the stick is glowing

rose thorn
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god i hate daemonettes of slaanesh so much, they are impossible to fucking build

crystal forum
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instead of saying "i'm going to kill you" he says "they want you to think i'm going to kill you"

rose thorn
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i will finish my daemonttes once i buy industrial glue lmao

rose thorn
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fr

green loom
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I'm still hooked on dis

arctic talon
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Aaaaaaa bretonian

green loom
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They even have my favourite colours thumbsup_ogryn

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Anyway I got a question

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What sort of character sets people off the most, and I mean Homebrew/OC

crystal forum
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if i had the will and the money i'd kitbash guardsmen and fantasy knights

rose thorn
green loom
rose thorn
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OH

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characters that break pre established lore

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also eternals

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or what ever they are called

crystal forum
rose thorn
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the guys taht are unkillable

green loom
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Perpetuals

rose thorn
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dont worry if your character bends a faction's rule

crystal forum
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i don't think feudal world PDF should look like knights though because there's already the knight mechs lol

rose thorn
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but like, dont make a commisaar thats dating a tryanid

green loom
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I mean I know how to set off most puritan 40k fans I was just curious KEKW_ogryn

crystal forum
rose thorn
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but prison does

rose thorn
crystal forum
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maybe hive fleets just need a hug

rose thorn
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what else

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uh, dotn be racist

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your character can be xenophobic but dont be that guy who has a character who kills not white space marines

crystal forum
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most important rule: have fun

rose thorn
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yuP!

rose thorn
green loom
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Most of my homebrew efforts have been directed towards my Chapter

rose thorn
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im planning a manits warrior lieutenant and deathleaper who are at war with each other

green loom
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But I do want some other factions just so I've got other things to draw KEKW_ogryn

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Debating between a Slaanesh/Khorne champion

crimson kayak
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Slaneesh just to see your take on it

green loom
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I will make scantily clad Slaanesh SoBs

oak folio
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should make scantily clad space marines to match them

uneven temple
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thats like...the opposite of triggering puritan 40k fans

green loom
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Oh that's just making female marines

uneven temple
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slaanesh sisters are like numero uno for 40k smut

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female marines are all over r/imaginarywarhammer

green loom
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Man I wish(it's actually just normal sisters)

uneven temple
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ironically i've seen non-standard culturally themed SoB be more controversial than either of those two

green loom
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I've just met way too many nutjobs probably KEKW_ogryn

uneven temple
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this may or may not be my attempt to get someone to do more culturally themed sob. i will neither confirm nor deny

green loom
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I do have some spear themed ones I could explore

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Sororitas Chevaliers are a concept that needs to be explore more

uneven temple
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there was a japanese style SoB chapter that i thought was really cool posted last year (or year before dont remember)

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then there was that custom order that relied on psykers or whatever that was a really cool concept too

green loom
summer rover
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40k will always try to steal bretonnians, huh

green loom
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The simped for become the simps

crystal forum
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I really like this writer

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@green loom this is what im talking about

green loom
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Fancy fight

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Almost thought it was DoW Thaddeus

crystal forum
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yesssss the book gives the view of a leman russ executioner gunner

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this book really has everything

crystal forum
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im going to now bookmark my books with post its so can be even nerdier here

crimson kayak
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Wait, what kind of fucking autopistol is that lol

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It basically shot a guided armour piercing bolter round

hallow saddle
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what book is that?

crimson kayak
celest dome
crimson kayak
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Never thought fallen angel models actually existed

gloomy citrus
crimson kayak
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lol true, only thing i didn't see elsewhere is the small shield

queen laurel
gloomy citrus
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They're just company veterans but black.

storm jungle
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they dont exactly have their own unique minis lol

copper slate
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@crimson kayak maybe Asha can have a calming influence on the local warp space? Or maybe her presence helps to mask the minds of psykers?

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I mean… Warp and Void both seem to run on emotions…

crimson kayak
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depends on how you want the two to interact

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how did asha end up in 40k again?

copper slate
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Interference from Manny

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Void jump went screwy thank to Man-in-the-wall's meddling.

rose thorn
copper slate
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@crimson kayak "I don't know why you lead me here, but PLEASE, leave these people alone! They have enough problems." -Asha to her Doppleganger.

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(There is another rumor of a kid with dark eyes and an eerie smile wandering the Hunter. No one can agree on the child's appearance beyond those two traits.)

crimson kayak
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considering in 40k there's no Heart to pump void energy into the materium, you'll have to decide if you are gonna have an eye of terror-esque permanent void storm from the jump's exit or have Asha herself act like a moving Void fissure of sorts

copper slate
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More things to think about.

crimson kayak
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ye

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it could open up a lot more stuff obviously, with the first option leaving open possible corrupted/stalker and acolytes incursions or vice versa

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or the second having Asha maybe restrain herself from going full void power ham as that could release more void energies into the materium, thus amping up the man in the wall or smh

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or as more void energy is used more void storms/fissures start appearing, maybe culminating in a derelict tower popping up space hulk style

copper slate
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And now I'm thinking of the Chaos gods and what they 'see' of Asha.

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Khorne sees 'The Little Warmaster.'

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Tzeentch sees 'The Rogue Variable'.

crimson kayak
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Tzeeentch would probably freak the fuck out

copper slate
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Yeah... This being is not accounted for at all.

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Slannesh probably sees the least of Asha.

green loom
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I Wonder how Tzeentch would interact with something like paracausal shit from Destiny

crimson kayak
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aka freak the fuck out

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as paracausal stuff can't neither be predicted or overly influenced with (especially if used by the Darkness/Light)

copper slate
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Oh! Mirage Prime entertaining the children of the Hunter of the Void (because you can't tell me a ship that is practically a city unto itself doesn't have a population of children) with the Tales of Duviri.

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"Master your emotions before they master you!"

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@crimson kayak

copper slate
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"Ah ah ah!" The jester admonished with a wag of her finger. "'Mastering your emotions' doesn't mean rejecting or denying what you feel. Sometimes it's about understanding where the emotion is coming from and addressing the source, like with Lodun's Anger."

stark cargo
arctic talon
stark cargo
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Given Tzeentch's reputation for stuff that's not rooted in reality (aka magic), and the warp not being bound to linear time, I wouldn't be so sure about it.

viral halo
viral halo
arctic talon
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Ah

viral halo
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I love that kit I have one NIB

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too bad you cant use it anymore

arctic talon
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It’s got a lot of bits

arctic talon
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You can use it in the command squad

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I don’t get why GW keeps on switching between company veterans being a thing

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And not lol

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It’s so weird

rose thorn
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remember when fallen had a white dwarf 'subfaction' that only had 2 playable models

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due to the fact hte other two didnt have rules

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and the relic didnt work

arctic talon
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Lol

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They had working rules in 8e

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Funnily enough

rose thorn
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the two working models were fucking cypher and a rhino

arctic talon
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But it was just replace the word dark Angel

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With fallen

rose thorn
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because the sorcerer didnt work and the fallen had no rules

arctic talon
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💀

rose thorn
arctic talon
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Incredible

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Cypher is locked to chaos now

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Which is funny

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Bcs no one ever took him

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In LSM

rose thorn
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oh sorry auto bot

arctic talon
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lol

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I think it’s fine bcs he was honestly awful in non chaos

rose thorn
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i need to check out the new cypher book

arctic talon
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He just doesn’t synergize the way LSM want to

green loom
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I need to watch Blacktalon

storm jungle
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its very good

green loom
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Animation is a bit cartoony but I'm adoring the writing

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It's so weird seeing factions properly portrayed

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I'm surprised they picked DoK to show of all things

arctic talon
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Daughters of Khaine are cool

green loom
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Holy fuck the twist

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This just sold me on AoS all over again

storm jungle
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Lmao gottem

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thats how good the show is

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its very surprising

green loom
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I had to watch it via some breakdown youtuber since Warhammer+ doesn't exist here smilecat

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Now I just wish there were more episodes

storm jungle
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Im sure they will roll around

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i got no idea how GW percieves the receptions of these tho lol

green loom
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I guess people being weirdly against it for no reason doesn't help smilecat

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AND it's AoS so there's always the population of angry grognards who yap on about stuff

summer rover
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damn right we do.

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also i don't think GW bothers to percieve how their marketing is recieved, when they can just lie to investors.

rose thorn
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gotta love how the resin beast master model is less common then the old fuckin metal one

rose thorn
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ikr

storm jungle
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GW is entirely aware of what their products make on the money front, its mostly the book scene that usually goes unnoticed.

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Shows I got no idea but iirc WH+ hasn't been doing great since its inception.

celest dome
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Well you can lie to your investors, but if ya get found out, well it's gonna be very painful

storm jungle
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Yeah its why you don't lie.

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Unless you want to lose your job especially KEK

astral whale
astral whale
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What good content has been posted on the platform has been fan animators

celest dome
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Wh+stuff should have been added to Netflix or something, instead of being it's own thing

storm jungle
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Its basically GW being arrogant and not wanting to share their IP

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its always been their weakness

storm jungle
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Angels of Death was generic, Exodite got butchered in production so it was also bad, Iron Within I got NO IDEA what happened but was also terrible

summer rover
green loom
storm jungle
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Covid has extremely helped the company ironically

astral whale
storm jungle
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Blacktalon is pretty good though which surprised me

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shame its wasted on WH+

summer rover
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like, i've gone over their investor reports before, those things lie like dogs. they just require you to understand the habby stores to catch the lies and none of the investors buy shit in person.

astral whale
green loom
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I found a "review" of it smilecat

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If you catch my meaning

astral whale
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Ayyy thanks my brother

storm jungle
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you are also extremely oversimplifying the business aspect of these things

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💀

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You also very much underestimate how many nerds buy their stuff, there isn't anything to "lie" about.

summer rover
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think what ya like, not like it'll change anything whichever of us is right.

storm jungle
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I mean I don't care if you don't, its the truth

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mindless consumers are what makes a good chunk of the warhammer hobby

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I hate the company too but saying they lie about the profits they make is very childish

arctic talon
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It’s also literally illegal to lie in those reports

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Which yeah that doesn’t stop companies

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But also I don’t think they want an extra fire under their ass

storm jungle
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Yeah your life will be made a living hell if you try something like lying about reports.

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Its virtually impossible and someone will know the truth and your ass will be out on the street.

summer rover
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they're safe from that, they're lying about the hobby aspect which investors will never think to check to begin with.

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hiding where the money is coming from by rolling direct orders and sales to hobby stores is common and also lets them pressure hobby stores.

storm jungle
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There isn't anything to be "safe" about, they make tons of money and we have seen the evidence of it constantly from the amount of ranges and minis they produce almost monthly at this point.

I don't really understand your POV here.

celest dome
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Mate, there are companies whose job is just to check if companies are lying, and they will dig real deep

summer rover
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they don't just have to make money, they have to beat the costs of their loans. which are.....opaque

storm jungle
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What.

summer rover
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"they'll find out!" they dig deep on finance, they don't know where to LOOK on large swathes of the hobby industry. that's why there's so many small companies used mostly for money laundering.

arctic talon
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I don’t think GW is money laundering lol

storm jungle
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Yeah I give up

arctic talon
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And they’re profitable aren’t they lol

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I don’t follow your argument

summer rover
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yeah, they're not they're just trying to hide what part of their markets are profitable and what aren't.

storm jungle
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Right

storm jungle
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Damn you reminded me, I need pizza now

rose thorn
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:D

arctic talon
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Lol

storm jungle
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Time to call up UberEats and enjoy my freezing cold pizza once it arrives 👌

summer rover
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don't pizza places have dedicated drivers with stuff just to keep the pizza warm?

rose thorn
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I woke up, and I was craving BK so fucling hard and got the estrogen burger

rose thorn
rose thorn
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WARMER

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Pizza warhammer

summer rover
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oh man i hope we get a warhammer pizza tie-in, and it better not be dominos

arctic talon
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Lol

rose thorn
arctic talon
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Wish granted its Pizza Hut

summer rover
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pizza hut is acceptable, at least you can eat it without nightmare shits later

rose thorn
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The only warhammer pizza

summer rover
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they'll eat anything in the riekland, i swear.

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this is also the image that made pineapples canon to fantasy.

rose thorn
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God pineapple would be trh best food to torture someone with

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You are a dark elf

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‘Damn I’m bored, and I’m guarding the slave pits’

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‘They are complaining about being hungry

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toss in a whole ass pineapple in there

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It’s sharp

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It’s hard to eat

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Eating too much makes you throw up

astral whale
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Even funnier

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You take a dish of completley normal food and you add pineapple slices to it as they watch.

rose thorn
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The pine apple wych cult

stark cargo
astral whale
winter vessel
# astral whale Do Dark Eldar have Mukbangs?

I'm going on a leap and say yes. But they're probably not the ones eating, they force their Mon'keigh slaves to eat, its one way to get satisfaction for those sadistic pricks.

astral whale
winter vessel
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Gonna be one helluva food fight

storm jungle
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That would be too quick

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also if you want mukbang just look at your average Imperial noble

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Literally in this case

winter vessel
# storm jungle

ah fuck that's the artwork relating to a noble using Halo devices, one of the most messed up things I ever learned in 40k. I'll take the bomb collar instead please and thank you.

storm jungle
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He was forced to watch the Halo Show

green loom
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There are few worse fates

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Seriously I think it has some of the worst CGI in modern TV KEKW_ogryn

winter vessel
green loom
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My favourite bit was Atriox

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Quality CGI

winter vessel
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they broke the number 1 rule for the Master Chief, taking off his helmet. Only silver lining was Jen Taylor starring her role is Cortana. Soren-66's defection? Read the book, it was better and thrilling, not some dude who decided to settle on an asteroid where the Millenium Falcon hid in EP V. Oh I could list so many more grievances, I can create another Chaos god at this point.

storm jungle
#

god

rose thorn
stuck kernel
#

I was willing to tolerate a lot but when that part came up, I just gave up lol

celest dome
#

I remember having heard rumours that it was supposed to be a Mass Effect series but they got the right for Halo
Never really searched if it was true though

stuck kernel
#

Honestly, it would make a lot more sense too. Chief in the series just kinda runs around with no helmet, doing Shepard stuff

winter vessel
# stuck kernel I was willing to tolerate a lot but when that part came up, I just gave up lol

That's one of many on my list of grievances. He ain't even worthy of being called Chief, that's why I call him Jimmy Rings. I mean seriously if you wanted a love interest, why couldn't they bring in Parisa? Childhood friend, still clung to the promise John made her as a kid. Oh and yeah, a marine Lieutenant who isn't affiliated with the Covies. I swear, the producers of the show didn't even play the game, They just looked at the box art of each game case and winged it from there.

green loom
#

The covenant just sort of being there

stuck kernel
#

Yet another case of writers looking at the source material, scoffing, and thinking they can do better. Again Guarded

green loom
#

At least it wasn't them actively hating the source material

#

Unlike The Witcher smilecat

winter vessel
#

I would've felt more emotion if that Kwan girl was killed by a jackal sniper. Because she'll be dead which would invoke happiness. And I would laugh because she would get owned by one of the most notorious foes to ever grace Halo's campaigns(H2) in the highest difficulty.

stuck kernel
#

I feel sorry for the actress tho. Given what she had to work with KEKW_ogryn

winter vessel
#

and yet somehow, I felt more emotion for a seven minute short film called "Landfall", with a limited budget and meant to promote H3's release, than I did for 9, hour long episodes made by a bigger company.

#

Halo TV action is good, but can your average marine throw a spike grenade at a moving banshee and destroy it? no.

storm jungle
#

I miss Sodaz

winter vessel
#

yes

green loom
#

Tbh I think his current stuff is better than his 40k stuff

storm jungle
#

100%

#

Also i love watching the 40k reuploads of his vids

#

and everyone in the comments is like

#

"CANT BELIEVE GW DID THIS TO HIM, FOR THE EMPEROR MY BROTHERS"

#

Bro you are the ones that witchhunted him

#

💀

celest dome
#

Nobody ever said warhammer fans were inteligent

storm jungle
#

Can confirm, I am one

green loom
winter vessel
#

I didn't get into 40k stuff until like, a year after his channel shut down? But his videos(reuploads) lured me into the insanity that is 40k. First watched video? Iron warriors vs Imperial Fists.

storm jungle
#

They are very good

green loom
#

I think the only person straight up told off by GW was like

#

Janovich?

storm jungle
#

And some other unknown animator

#

who said GW was very cool with it

green loom
#

Whoever was doing a Vraks animation

storm jungle
#

even if what they did was very stupid lol

green loom
#

Iirc the entire point wasn't to stomp fan stuff, just so the animators couldn't make money off it

#

And also I'm told the guy that got the ball rolling on the "crackdown" was none other than everyone's favourite Norwegian KEKW_ogryn

winter vessel
#

2nd fan content video I watched was ASTARTES, which, good for him since his chapter was included into the 40k universe, but the sequel will probably not see the light of day anytime soon.

storm jungle
#

Astartes is in a very weird spot

#

its been like 2 fucking years

#

Also he was making a SHIT TON of money on his patreon before GW intervened.

#

Hes the only creator im sus about on how the "deal" exactly went down.

green loom
#

A) part 1 took forever to make
B) iirc he's basically an advisor on all the anims now so he's probably busy

storm jungle
#

Yeah but give me animations

green loom
#

40k fans when you tell them animations take a while to make Guarded

winter vessel
#

The sound of the bolter shots was mmm crisp.

storm jungle
#

Astartes was great yeah

#

a bit too Marine wanky but it wasnt too bad

#

at least one marine should have died from those autocannon blasts

winter vessel
#

That's like the only time I've seen Astartes armor take damage from non Space Marine arsenal. It's kind of hard to visually picture what it looks like in your head.

storm jungle
#

I get why they were basically invincible tho at least

#

it makes them look unstoppable before they get bodied by that alien creature.

winter vessel
#

Some channel, bless his sacrifice, managed to upload the entire Angels of Death Warhammer+ videos onto youtube into a movie few months ago. Wasn't that bad, though i'm still a novice on 40k details. Only minor issue was the lip movement when they spoke.

storm jungle
#

Angels of Death was very bad

#

just.. so much shakey cam and nonsense dialogue/action

#

also the mocap on the Marines was very awkward too

#

and the fact that they survive a lot of part where they should have just gotten bodied

#

But its made by the Helsreach guy so that was kinda expected

winter vessel
#

oh Helsreach, my favorite, starring my 3rd favorite Astartes chapter. Still get goosebumps when Grimaldus gave that speech.

storm jungle
#

thats good at least

green loom
#

Helsreach always felt janky to me

crisp heath
#

I liked Hammer and Bolter, which is apparently scandalous to say

#

Reminded me of transformers and Thundercats

winter vessel
#

Well the quality is equivalent to GMOD for a good portion and they used Louis from L4D as a model for the Salamander sergeant. Could only work with what he had at the time.

storm jungle
#

Yeah Helsreach made up for it with the plot

storm jungle
#

its a fine opinion to have

#

Theres only like... 1-2 episodes id say are just shit

crisp heath
#

Still haven't seen The Exodite yet

storm jungle
#

LEL

#

You are literally missing nothing

#

its basically nothing stretched over 30m

#

GW released a 10m ep each and padded it out over like 4 weeks

winter vessel
#

I've only liked "Iron Within" so far.

crisp heath
#

Well I like Robert Eggers films and that's the same experience so I'll give it a shot

storm jungle
#

Iron Within was also super bad

#

literally making a joke of dark eldar too

green loom
#

And then Clancy Brown monologuing for 5 minutes

storm jungle
#

TO BE FAIR

#

That part was good

green loom
#

Yes

storm jungle
#

also the ending was Looney Tunes levels of funny

green loom
#

Many death korpsmen died to being us this animation
And much more should have

storm jungle
#

agreed

#

🙏

crisp heath
#

Speaking of dead kriegers

#

When will we get pariah nexus news???

storm jungle
#

We'll get them when we get them

#

GW is very bad at that front lol

winter vessel
#

I only appreciated "Iron within" because of how they showed the Iron Warriors and the way they fought, everything else, eh, satisfied for seeing Drukhari getting their asses handed to em

storm jungle
#

When you make a faction act moronic like that yeah

#

If it was a real dark eldar raid and everyone on that planet would be dead

#

but Marine animation so not surprised

green loom
#

Maybe the Dark Eldar would've used the vehicles they were using 5 minutes prior on the marines

storm jungle
#

Or just wyches

#

Or incubi

#

Or hellions

#

Or scourges

green loom
#

Or anything other than Kabal warriors

storm jungle
#

That, thank you lmao

#

Also a fucking

#

jetbike following a road going straight at a chimera

green loom
#

Shouldn't their guns still be able to pop marines decently easily

storm jungle
#

Yes lmao

#

you see this in hammer & bolter

#

one well made shot literally kills a chaos terminator since the splinter shard goes through the visor and into the marine's brain

#

I think i quit when I saw a Raider go by a road to be hit by a landmine

green loom
#

I've been waiting for Bannerlord to launch for over an hour KEKW_ogryn

storm jungle
#

Now thats true suffering

green loom
#

Stupid wahammer mod

storm jungle
#

Empire my beloved 🙏

green loom
#

Because the other eldar one was 585724567259971604

storm jungle
#

Yep the Trazyn one

#

the actual Eldar one was indeed 💀

#

those aspect warriors stood no chance against those flying Primaris guys frozen mid-air in 1fps

green loom
#

God those were literally just

#

Scans of the models

#

Fucky proportions and all

storm jungle
#

the titans too lmao

storm jungle
#

their raids only go awry if the opposng force is waiting for them or if they drag the raid out.

#

Which 95% of the time doesn't happen since the planet will be empty by 24 hours

languid salmon
#

I’m saying the people who are dead on the planet are the lucky ones

storm jungle
#

Oh that

#

ah well close enough

#

I just brought it up since most people just dont want to accept that many Imperial officials just let dark eldar take what they want since theres no way they can usually mobilize "help" in time

languid salmon
#

Yep. Then there’s that time when they tried to raid a hivefleet and it backfired horribly

storm jungle
#

Its okay they stole a planet with Nids instead

#

Everyone wins

languid salmon
#

Isn’t there a group of dark eldar who attached genestealer parts on them that suddenly became very interested in that planet?

storm jungle
#

Uhh no

#

Thats after the planet stealing

#

It doesnt mention anything about them getting infected, just using the parts for fashion.

#

Even if an infection began Vect or another rich asshole Archon would just nuke em at worst.

languid salmon
#

Yes it was after they took the planet. It was in one of the 8th edition codexes and heavily implies a genestealer cult got started

storm jungle
#

I mean yeah but nothing comes out of that

#

as with many 40k codex lore blurbs

#

because the writers suck staregryn

green loom
#

It's probably a Haemonculi experiment

crisp heath
#

Drukhari genestealers would easily be the grossest thing in the setting

green loom
#

They're already planning on dooming the Drukhari anyway

winter vessel
#

excellent

languid salmon
storm jungle
#

they are i agree

green loom
#

Still waiting smilecat

storm jungle
#

where else will we get good memes such as the Iron Hands decimating an entire population thinking they were keeping recruits from them

#

when in reality the population was just getting stolen by human slavers

green loom
#

Ouch

storm jungle
#

Probably one of the FUNNIEST blurbs i had read

rose thorn
green loom
#

Didn't the Salamanders gun down a bunch of Nocturne natives for being caputred

storm jungle
#

That i dont remember but sounds like them

gloomy citrus
#

Does it?

crisp heath
#

I'm pretty sure they just left them to die

green loom
#

Kind of

crimson kayak
#

nope, they purged them

#

it's the same planet of the eldar child thing

gloomy citrus
#

Yeah...

#

And people simp for the chocolate boys.

crisp heath
#

They were just having a bad day ok?

gloomy citrus
crimson kayak
#

the nocturne natives were descendants of people enslaved by the dark eldar and then saved by the normal eldar

green loom
#

They're hardly chocolate, more like charcoal

storm jungle
#

^

winter vessel
#

yeah, that's why they don't make my top 5, 1st belongs to Crimson Fists in my list.

crisp heath
#

This is why I like charcarodons, who have never done anything wrong

gloomy citrus
storm jungle
#

is this because people think they are african-american

storm jungle
gloomy citrus
storm jungle
#

you are the one calling them "chocolate boys" bruh

green loom
#

Plz moar guard lore

storm jungle
#

No

#

you will get your rehashed lore and you'll like it

winter vessel
#

in order of top 5 1st to last: Crimson Fists-->Lamenters-->Black Templars-->Fire Angels--> White Scars.

#

no wait lemme fix that. there we go.

gloomy citrus
#

What's so special about Crimson Fists?

green loom
#

They're cool

gloomy citrus
#

Aside from the obvious.

green loom
#

Their Book was nice if I recall

#

And they were the OGs

storm jungle
#

They are also one of the- yep

#

To the point that they get an updated artwork

green loom
#

Pictured; tactics marines never use outside the heresy

gloomy citrus
crisp heath
#

Get ork'd losers

winter vessel
#

Pedro Kantor, MF chad of an Astartes, said to a woman with her children, "Time that someone carried you now".

rose thorn
#

Mantis warriors are my fav <3333

winter vessel
#

and the fact his name's "Pedro", in 40k!

terse flume
rose thorn
#

LMAO

gloomy citrus
#

Eldar lore.

storm jungle
#

4chan?

gloomy citrus
#

I don't use 4chan.

#

Anyway, what was this discussion about before being interrupted by that shirt?

storm jungle
#

Crimson Fists being neat

rose thorn
#

They really are the neatest of all the neat marines

winter vessel
#

Crimsons fists, the only loyalist chapter I like that wears blue. Not the Ultrasmurfs.

crystal forum
storm jungle
#

Yeah thats a classic thing in old paintings

crystal forum
#

very obviously propaganda but still cool to look at

storm jungle
#

bunch of lads bunched together in a hill or something similiar while shooting/attacking their enemy

#

warhammer does it a lot

crystal forum
#

even 40k doesn't have child soldiers

green loom
#

They're called White Shields

crystal forum
#

inb4 somebody mentions krieg

green loom
#

It's a Cadian thing

crystal forum
#

cadians are cool but could they just stop representing all militarum

green loom
#

They don't, they're the generic template and you can build anything

crystal forum
#

i read about all sorts of wacky regiments in the books

storm jungle
#

40k absolutely has child soldiers

#

its just that uh

#

along with suicide bombers you just dont really want to read about that stuff since its too close to IRL

winter vessel
crystal forum
#

get a squat model and remove the beard

crystal forum
#

time to go back to reading about the wacky misadventures of the purple nurple chapter and the inquisition

storm jungle
#

Which one

crystal forum
arctic talon
#

is the big plot hook for mass effect 1 lol

#

oh god they're making another hammer and bolter episode lol

#

with the Exorcists and Lucius the eternal in it

green loom
#

Uh oh

arctic talon
arctic talon
#

its not out yet

storm jungle
#

Oh yeah I know i mean the promo

storm jungle
#

Aw damn, not even a screenshot/image

storm jungle
#

AH there

arctic talon
#

He's fighting 2 chaplains

storm jungle
#

oh my god I hate when they do that so much, those janky ass 3d models

arctic talon
#

which is

#

odd

storm jungle
#

also Lucius looks shittier than his actual old af model

arctic talon
#

50 cents says he broke into the funny room where they shove daemons into people

storm jungle
#

Anyway ill make sure to grab it

green loom
#

Oh I know what's going to happen

#

He lets one of them kill him, resurrects in the monastery, kills his way out

storm jungle
#

I'll report back on this on tuesday

#

if you are right im gonna scream

green loom
#

I love one trick characters!!!!

storm jungle
#

Also like its very obvious too

#

I usually like H&B but including named characters is just stupid

#

they arent going to die

storm jungle
#

Nope

#

he worked

arctic talon
#

He died

#

Technically

storm jungle
#

he appears at the end as a good plot twist

green loom
#

Yeah but he's a Necron

arctic talon
#

Yeah

storm jungle
#

Yeah that too

arctic talon
#

That episode is good

storm jungle
#

fr fr

green loom
#

And Lucius' entire gimmick is resurrecting out of enemies

storm jungle
#

^

#

its his one trick

arctic talon
#

His other one is being a good dualist

#

Which uh

#

Is a dime a dozen

#

In 40K lol

green loom
#

Like he isn't going to kill his way into the Fortress Monastery

storm jungle
#

also having a sword with a daemon in it

#

which is also dime a dozen in 40k

arctic talon
#

It doesn’t have a daemon anymore does it?

#

It’s stuck in a painting

storm jungle
#

Honestly same thing at this point

#

nobody likes Lucius

#

Draco Malfoy lookin mfer

green loom
#

Bannerlord is still loading btw smilecat

arctic talon
#

Lol

storm jungle
#

I think its time for you to give up on that

arctic talon
#

Also eidolon fits better

#

As a faction rep anyways

#

He has a sonic weapon

storm jungle
#

He has been mentioned awhile ago gathering Da Boys

green loom
#

You know who else was mentioned

storm jungle
#

which isnt gonna go anywhere until the E.C codex comes out

green loom
#

Luther

arctic talon
#

Lucius is pretty

#

Meh

#

Like overall even in EC lore

#

He doesn’t even lead the biggest group

#

It’s kinda funny

storm jungle
#

he literally is the same character in every appearance, even before the Heresy

arctic talon
#

He’s the “mascot” of them rn

storm jungle
#

Yep

#

him also betraying the loyalist element of the traitor legions stuck on Istvaan is hilarious

#

Mfer's ego is fragile af

arctic talon
#

More fragile then glass

crimson kayak
winter vessel
crystal forum
#

he has so little personality that traitors left him on istvan because he didn't take any sides and they assumed he'd be with his commanding officer

crystal forum
#

He very clearly was only going with the flow and got caught off guard by the traitor situation

nocturne crest
#

Has there been any instance of a primaris Wulfen yet?

rose thorn
#

just wtached my first henshin, i now knwo what i must do

fresh quiver
#

Lucius being caught as his pawn is comedic gold.

crystal forum
#

i havent reached the part where lucius gets his champion status but i can assume that it went like:
"hey lucius, want to keep being the best swordsman and be immortal in a way that whoever beats you becomes you?"

"aight bet"

arctic talon
#

He’s so pissed every time he revives lol

#

Because he can’t go back and beat them in a dual

#

Bcs he’s turned them into a face on his armor

coarse pumice
#

I prefer Sigvald

queen laurel
winter vessel
#

wow, is this man going commando? cus something tells me that behind that loincloth isn't a layer of fabric.

coarse pumice
#

he's a slaanesh champion so it figures

dry epoch
#

Valkia would kick him in the happy sacks and take his stuff before he knew what had happened.

celest dome
#

Doesn't he has a Chapless armour in AoS ?

crimson kayak
celest dome
green loom
dry epoch
#

Seems about right for Siggy

echo vault
#

Sigvald vs lucius

#

Sigvald is somehow eviler

storm jungle
#

They are about the same

#

Sigvald is nowhere near as evil as Lucius due to how much the other character is a prick

green loom
#

Yeah Sigvald is just normal, murderous evil
Lucius is traitorous, asshole evil

storm jungle
#

^

#

Lucius' actions carry a lot more weight since he cause da lot more damage for loyalists in many areas lol

rose thorn
#

Shame lucius is kinda kicking bag for ‘super badass mega loyalists@

#

There’s like 3 times a loyalist marine killed Lucius permanently

#

But, he came back

#

So

queen laurel
#

Lucius, are you guys talking about that swordsman of slaanesh that is honestly not the even that good and the only reason why he wins is because of that stupid passive

rose thorn
#

Okay so Cannonically he’s supposed to be literally the best swordsman duelist ever

#

But is only good at 1v1s in lore

#

So he just targets teh best swordsman on the battlefield

#

Problem; it’s a blood angle book

#

Theirfore he fucking dies to make the new HH model cooler

#

So his protection from liek, getting ambushed or dying from cross fire

#

Became his only gimmick

storm jungle
#

Also Lucius is just not well written

rose thorn
#

Yeah

storm jungle
#

hes very much a Starscream character

#

he has 1 job

queen laurel
rose thorn
#

Okay when he first appears he was cool because he was just, a fuckinh psychotic upper class child

#

Like it was shocking someone loyal to the imperium would be like that

storm jungle
#

random people kill Swarmy all the time

#

so

rose thorn
#

And he was loyalists until he switched places with Rylanor

storm jungle
#

also that too

#

he was butthurt and wanted to go be with Fulgrim and his legion

#

which is

rose thorn
#

LMAO

#

Yeah

storm jungle
#

He literally betrays them mid-battle yeah

#

fucking sellout

queen laurel
rose thorn
#

Yeah it’s amazing

storm jungle
#

Swarmlord "realistically" speaking shouldnt be even possible to get near to

queen laurel
storm jungle
#

This yes

#

the Avatar of Khaine literally gets choked out by Fulgrim at one point

#

you know

#

a fucking magma statue

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

because funny

arctic talon
#

also its immortal

#

so it doesn't matter how many times it dies

rose thorn
#

honestlyy, i dont know if it would have been better or worse if lucius stayed loyal

arctic talon
#

it suffers from immortal syndrome

#

where if a character is immortal they're gona mcfucking die more

rose thorn
#

and became the champion of slaanehs jsut form how terrible of a fucking person he is

#

and no help from fulgrim

queen laurel
# arctic talon so it doesn't matter how many times it dies

This is warhammers favorite plot device

Don't worry they are disposable
this is why orks can get slaughtered left and right because well they have immense enough numbers that if one were to die he has more than 100 replacements already\

storm jungle
#

And people were like

#

"Oh hes a mcuh bigger threat now"

arctic talon
#

lol

rose thorn
#

wasnt it 8 days?

storm jungle
arctic talon
#

lmao

#

its 8 weeks

storm jungle
#

"Oh yeah hes gonna die more"

arctic talon
#

8 days if he gets a big sacrifice

storm jungle
#

Yeah that

rose thorn
#

OHHHH okay

storm jungle
#

but like

#

letsb e honest

arctic talon
#

Also 8 seconds

storm jungle
#

it doesnt matter does it

arctic talon
#

if he gets a fucking huge one

#

kek

rose thorn
#

or 8 units dead

arctic talon
#

lol

#

I love how the world eaters rules

rose thorn
#

so 8 hours

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

is literally casino dice rn

arctic talon
#

If you roll triple 6's

storm jungle
#

just cheap action

arctic talon
#

you get to revive Angron

arctic talon
#

in the overarching narrative lol

storm jungle
#

you say that like i said it never was

rose thorn
#

that oculd have been demon of slaanesh's gimmick

arctic talon
#

tbh

#

its like the blood tithe system from AoS

#

then they would have the khorne player rolling 6 dice instead of 3

rose thorn
#

litearlaly one for one it is lmao

storm jungle
#

Also nah like

arctic talon
#

tbh

#

its a good system lol

#

its fun

storm jungle
#

all the chaos gods use the number gimmick

#

even in lore

#

theres one event where uh

rose thorn
#

yeah i really like it honestly lmao

storm jungle
#

an Imperial guard planet kills TRILLIONS of invading khornates by the time they run out of men

#

and

#

the last 8 fucking berserkers

#

all turn to bloodthirsters

#

LMAO

queen laurel
arctic talon
storm jungle
#

IT IS

#

its such a "fuck you"

arctic talon
#

9 is tzeentch's special number

storm jungle
#

by that time nearly 95% of the planet is dead

rose thorn
#

oh whoops sorry auto bot

arctic talon
#

also this means they're counting down

#

9,8,7,6

rose thorn
#

tzeench players when they roll a 9:
lets FUCKING GOOOOO

storm jungle
#

also same reason uh, when you fight the Traitor Captain in the game sometimes he'll go full Ishowspeed

#

and begin muttering

#

"SEVEN SEVEN SEVEN"

arctic talon
#

yeah

#

Seven and Three are nurgles favorite number

#

mostly seven

#

but all his pox marks are in 3's

storm jungle
#

yep

queen laurel
arctic talon
#

Ork players replace oxygen with bullets

#

more at 7

rose thorn
#

i really want all the 4 mono god factions to get s ome gimmcikw hen you roll thier number

#

just make it something really stupid

arctic talon
#

imagine if they bring back the special bonus for having weirdly sized units lol

rose thorn
#

that woudlnt help

arctic talon
#

bcs back in 6th

rose thorn
#

i know tzeentch use to have a gimmick somewhere if you roll a 9 when casting a spell

arctic talon
#

you got bonuses for having noise marines in 6's, plague marines in 7's, berserkers in 8's and Rubrics in 9's

#

if you're wondering how good it was

#

like many things in 6 it was terrible

#

especially chaos things in 6

storm jungle
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also question about tabletop

rose thorn
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storm jungle
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how braindead do you have to be to play World Eaters

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is it easy

rose thorn
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oh its al movement gimmicks