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wait and the writers kept it so consistent that the community could piece together an actual timeline?
Kinda yeah
day -since before i was born- of me wanting a badab war book series
that's crazy
They have an entire professional company more or less dedicated to writing and curating the HH
people talk shit about 40k continuity but damn
Unfortunately the books also dropped in quality
after the head writer Alan Bligh died
he was also the one behind Imperial Armor
one of the best series' GW had
oo which HH books we talking about?
googels
Yeah with 30k we literally got an entire written timeline
because they fleshed it out with over 60+ books
OH GOD
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS
bro these look like those giant books in schoo libraries of like all of human knowledge 7 years ago
yeah and human characters who have a life span of 100 years somehow get "status unknown"
i saw lion and i clapped!
Mfw Dark Angels books 
Rejuvinat treatment

Somehow all Dark Angels books just suck
HH books are cool for like, if you wanan kow about specific faction
also yeah that
he only universally SHIT HH books are the Salamander and Dark Angel ones
gimme a fucking HH eldar book
best i can give you is fulgrim virus bombing some eldar
and choking an avatar of khaine
you know
a fucking magma statue
Or Vulkan massacring Eldar and his own kidnapped people for being kidnapped
i don't enjoy anything that involves fulgrim but that might not be the writer's fault
i know first of the fallen is between HH and 40K but im defending that with my life
wow rude
Yeah but that's a Fallen book, not DA 
oh, sorry auto bot

consuming behinds
It's more focused on luther and what he did than the Dark Angels
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The only cool bit is the different Grand Masters showing up
And it being revealed that Farith was the first SupremeGM
remember! dont ask waht EC were doing during terra!
dont ask
dark angels do seem like a one trick pony sort of chapter
ever
there is a reason the 'sum up of the attack on terra; said EC was just doin stuff
Dark Angels have only now started to change in 2023 after like 20 years of being a one-trick pony chapter
Yeah like EVERYTHING is related to the Fallen
Mfers turned entire continents into drugs
They're always chasing or fighting Fallen
Yeah it fucking sucks
Fallen Fallen Fallen Fallen
there are 3 things all EC fans say cannon
from consumign so much DA lore
lmao
fulgrim is possessed
bile is not apart of EC anymore
and they jsut did murder and shit on terra
and somehow lion is not immediately resolving that plot point lol
yeah but
fulgrim said he was unpossessed
and let his men open him up
and do suergery to remove the demon that wasnt there from him
so if lion dies to angron do dark angels go back to just doing their own shit
Yeah that part i got no idea, no EC fan likes that part much lmao
He won the fight
Writers barely disguised fetish
They shoved some stuff up his A-
oh
dont ask how fulrgim trapped a demon in a painting
He did what Perturabo did basically
why does fulgrim do half the shit he does
pls in like, the EC book that releases with the EC army, they can jsut say 'yeah nah the demon was fucking with them and is totally in fulgrim'
It turns out it is fulgrim
Also you know what's funny

The fulgrim clone
there's a part in the soul drinkers books that a demon is straight up a gun
Is 100% not fulgrim
god old 40k novels are great
as yes the nurgle fisherman
Bile just found him wandering in one of his abandoned labs
And it's specifically noted that something else took root in him
Nurgle daemon Kek
im taking my time to read this shit specifically so i can keep saying stuff about it here
also pls gw give us more demons, pls pls psl
Chad.
all the gods need like, oen mroe demon unit
During their codex launch
Fingers crossed for new guard
dont do the fucking 'complmentrary hero on rock'
I really hope it isn’t oops all characters
Ngl
give me a fucking unit of armored blood letters
i have no clue how you all read so many 40k books when a single chapter of this soul drinker stuff is like months of material for me
Isn't that just Exalted Bloodlettees
I've read a total of two 40k books
And one of those was on Audible
tat is such a cool thing that has literally beein the lore, abd is in the game, and has alot of cool shit
that isnt in the fucking t able top
for NO REASON
Exalted bloodletters are on the tabletop akshully
🤓
Or rather were
They were a points upgrade
Originally
id fucking take that
Frankly I don't know how I learned of all the random shit I know 
the durkhari traitment
Same with exalted of every lesser daemon type
treatment*
They were awful unfortunately
Let me guess they got the ol gw treatment
No one took them
Is the sad answer
i bet but, id rather have that
Yeah
also apparently demon lords can rip open space hulks like sardine cans
An entire Tyranid tendril got wiped out by one sword swing at some point iirc
You don't mess with daemons on their turf
For an exalted demon that's a bit ironic isn't it?
They’re exalted lesser daemons
So they aren’t Uber strong
funnily i think tzeentch dont need an exualted foot soldier
since thats waht pink horror basically are supposed to be
They had higher Strength more attacks and higher toughness
They just costed too much
For it to be worth it
but all the horrors have been changed so much i have no cleu waht the difference is anymore
read soul drinkers i can't recommend it enough
Oh it's that
Pink is strongest, blue is middle, brimstone smol
do they still split?
Reading is for nerds and I don't have time for it
i love that the tzeentch cultists
Reading is for nerds
Says the guy who has a warhammer 40k custom made faction

I already have to read American Gods and write a 15k word essay on it 
im stuck in the north with nothing to do with my spare time so im reading the two soul drinker omnibuses and i also brought eisenhorn
figured i should read it before the amazon series comes out
Tzeentch melee units are born out of necessity huh
oh dont worry these guys are cool
My spare time is either gaming or art or being taken advantage of for free labour 
Can't actually pursue my interests because I don't control my money and am looked down on for them 
Tbh not having a melee unit in AoS or fantasy is suicide
Yeah but looking at them you can tell the entire purpose is to be a wall so that the stronger units can rain down fire
AoS models are all based
Tzeentch still took chaos warriors
in a subfaction that you can trade each model into a tzaangore
In AoS
model
And marauders
its so funny
Speaking of aos why do you call the maw krusha cabbage everytime you see one
Idk it just reminds me of a head of cabbage, very condensed from the front
"what do you mean that thing does not belong to khorne?"
'It's blue,it's not red"
"My brother in sigmar, he is beating our Forces to death with a stick"
he's doing it in a conspiratorial way
Yeah but the stick is glowing
god i hate daemonettes of slaanesh so much, they are impossible to fucking build
instead of saying "i'm going to kill you" he says "they want you to think i'm going to kill you"
i will finish my daemonttes once i buy industrial glue lmao
Gork and Mork
Old kit moment
fr
I'm still hooked on dis
Aaaaaaa bretonian
They even have my favourite colours 
Anyway I got a question
What sort of character sets people off the most, and I mean Homebrew/OC
how so?
if i had the will and the money i'd kitbash guardsmen and fantasy knights
as feudal guard or as that one regiment uhh
Something that would make them start shouting "not canon"
OH
characters that break pre established lore
also eternals
or what ever they are called
knight looking guardsmen yeah
the guys taht are unkillable
Perpetuals
dont worry if your character bends a faction's rule
i don't think feudal world PDF should look like knights though because there's already the knight mechs lol
but like, dont make a commisaar thats dating a tryanid
I mean I know how to set off most puritan 40k fans I was just curious 
love has no borders!!!
also making morally good characters is fine, you just need to be aware that everything is still doomed
maybe hive fleets just need a hug
what else
uh, dotn be racist
your character can be xenophobic but dont be that guy who has a character who kills not white space marines
most important rule: have fun
yuP!
something fun i liek to do is to make 2 characters at once who are rivals
Most of my homebrew efforts have been directed towards my Chapter
im planning a manits warrior lieutenant and deathleaper who are at war with each other
But I do want some other factions just so I've got other things to draw 
Debating between a Slaanesh/Khorne champion
Slaneesh just to see your take on it
should make scantily clad space marines to match them
thats like...the opposite of triggering puritan 40k fans
slaanesh sisters are like numero uno for 40k smut
female marines are all over r/imaginarywarhammer
Man I wish(it's actually just normal sisters)
ironically i've seen non-standard culturally themed SoB be more controversial than either of those two
I've just met way too many nutjobs probably 
this may or may not be my attempt to get someone to do more culturally themed sob. i will neither confirm nor deny
I do have some spear themed ones I could explore
Sororitas Chevaliers are a concept that needs to be explore more
there was a japanese style SoB chapter that i thought was really cool posted last year (or year before dont remember)
then there was that custom order that relied on psykers or whatever that was a really cool concept too
40k will always try to steal bretonnians, huh
The simped for become the simps
yesssss the book gives the view of a leman russ executioner gunner
this book really has everything
im going to now bookmark my books with post its so can be even nerdier here
Wait, what kind of fucking autopistol is that lol
It basically shot a guided armour piercing bolter round
what book is that?
And it even hits his target multiple times
It's a special bullet, likely an Exitus one (Think that's the name, like the one the Sniper assassin use
Never thought fallen angel models actually existed
They look like normal Angels, but black.
lol true, only thing i didn't see elsewhere is the small shield
If you didn't tell me these were the fallen I would have thought that they are black templars
They're just company veterans but black.
These models are old as shit
they dont exactly have their own unique minis lol
@crimson kayak maybe Asha can have a calming influence on the local warp space? Or maybe her presence helps to mask the minds of psykers?
I mean… Warp and Void both seem to run on emotions…
its just the da vet kit, but it comes with a shitlaod of bits, despite it saying 5 models theres enoughb its to build 6 lol
@crimson kayak "I don't know why you lead me here, but PLEASE, leave these people alone! They have enough problems." -Asha to her Doppleganger.
(There is another rumor of a kid with dark eyes and an eerie smile wandering the Hunter. No one can agree on the child's appearance beyond those two traits.)
considering in 40k there's no Heart to pump void energy into the materium, you'll have to decide if you are gonna have an eye of terror-esque permanent void storm from the jump's exit or have Asha herself act like a moving Void fissure of sorts
More things to think about.
ye
it could open up a lot more stuff obviously, with the first option leaving open possible corrupted/stalker and acolytes incursions or vice versa
or the second having Asha maybe restrain herself from going full void power ham as that could release more void energies into the materium, thus amping up the man in the wall or smh
or as more void energy is used more void storms/fissures start appearing, maybe culminating in a derelict tower popping up space hulk style
I like the second and third options more than the first.
And now I'm thinking of the Chaos gods and what they 'see' of Asha.
Khorne sees 'The Little Warmaster.'
Tzeentch sees 'The Rogue Variable'.
Tzeeentch would probably freak the fuck out
Yeah... This being is not accounted for at all.
Slannesh probably sees the least of Asha.
I Wonder how Tzeentch would interact with something like paracausal shit from Destiny
same as the vex
aka freak the fuck out
as paracausal stuff can't neither be predicted or overly influenced with (especially if used by the Darkness/Light)
Oh! Mirage Prime entertaining the children of the Hunter of the Void (because you can't tell me a ship that is practically a city unto itself doesn't have a population of children) with the Tales of Duviri.
"Master your emotions before they master you!"
@crimson kayak
"Ah ah ah!" The jester admonished with a wag of her finger. "'Mastering your emotions' doesn't mean rejecting or denying what you feel. Sometimes it's about understanding where the emotion is coming from and addressing the source, like with Lodun's Anger."
That's an assumption about Tzeentchs power right there.
They're literally photoshopped black lol
Given Tzeentch's reputation for stuff that's not rooted in reality (aka magic), and the warp not being bound to linear time, I wouldn't be so sure about it.
theyre just dark angels company vets paitned black lol, they used to be displayed on the store as "the fallen" it was a funny website joke
it was a joke on the store, they had two listings of the same exact model kit but one was vets and one was fallen lol
Ah
It’s got a lot of bits
Um akshully 🤓
You can use it in the command squad
I don’t get why GW keeps on switching between company veterans being a thing
And not lol
It’s so weird
remember when fallen had a white dwarf 'subfaction' that only had 2 playable models
due to the fact hte other two didnt have rules
and the relic didnt work
the two working models were fucking cypher and a rhino
because the sorcerer didnt work and the fallen had no rules
💀
and it was amazing
Incredible
Cypher is locked to chaos now
Which is funny
Bcs no one ever took him
In LSM
oh sorry auto bot
i need to check out the new cypher book
He just doesn’t synergize the way LSM want to
I need to watch Blacktalon
its very good
Animation is a bit cartoony but I'm adoring the writing
It's so weird seeing factions properly portrayed
I'm surprised they picked DoK to show of all things
Daughters of Khaine are cool
I had to watch it via some breakdown youtuber since Warhammer+ doesn't exist here 
Now I just wish there were more episodes
Im sure they will roll around
i got no idea how GW percieves the receptions of these tho lol
I guess people being weirdly against it for no reason doesn't help 
AND it's AoS so there's always the population of angry grognards who yap on about stuff
damn right we do.
also i don't think GW bothers to percieve how their marketing is recieved, when they can just lie to investors.
gotta love how the resin beast master model is less common then the old fuckin metal one
Resin 💀
ikr
You cant lie to your investors 
GW is entirely aware of what their products make on the money front, its mostly the book scene that usually goes unnoticed.
Shows I got no idea but iirc WH+ hasn't been doing great since its inception.
Well you can lie to your investors, but if ya get found out, well it's gonna be very painful
WH+ has been a joke since it’s inception. Hardly any content.
I know.
What good content has been posted on the platform has been fan animators
Wh+stuff should have been added to Netflix or something, instead of being it's own thing
Its basically GW being arrogant and not wanting to share their IP
its always been their weakness
Kinda even the fan shit sucked
Angels of Death was generic, Exodite got butchered in production so it was also bad, Iron Within I got NO IDEA what happened but was also terrible
none of GW's investors understand the wargame market, they're safe as starfish.
I don't think Blacktalon was fan stuff
If they didn't understand the market they wouldn't be making lots of profits in the last 2 years
Covid has extremely helped the company ironically
It was still miles better than Hammer and Bolter.
Nah all of them suck

Blacktalon is pretty good though which surprised me
shame its wasted on WH+
like, i've gone over their investor reports before, those things lie like dogs. they just require you to understand the habby stores to catch the lies and none of the investors buy shit in person.
I’ve not seen it. Lol.
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I found a "review" of it 
If you catch my meaning
Ayyy thanks my brother
Thats... not how it works, at all
you are also extremely oversimplifying the business aspect of these things
💀
You also very much underestimate how many nerds buy their stuff, there isn't anything to "lie" about.
think what ya like, not like it'll change anything whichever of us is right.
I mean I don't care if you don't, its the truth
mindless consumers are what makes a good chunk of the warhammer hobby
I hate the company too but saying they lie about the profits they make is very childish

It’s also literally illegal to lie in those reports
Which yeah that doesn’t stop companies
But also I don’t think they want an extra fire under their ass
Yeah your life will be made a living hell if you try something like lying about reports.
Its virtually impossible and someone will know the truth and your ass will be out on the street.
they're safe from that, they're lying about the hobby aspect which investors will never think to check to begin with.
hiding where the money is coming from by rolling direct orders and sales to hobby stores is common and also lets them pressure hobby stores.
There isn't anything to be "safe" about, they make tons of money and we have seen the evidence of it constantly from the amount of ranges and minis they produce almost monthly at this point.
I don't really understand your POV here.
Mate, there are companies whose job is just to check if companies are lying, and they will dig real deep
they don't just have to make money, they have to beat the costs of their loans. which are.....opaque
What.
"they'll find out!" they dig deep on finance, they don't know where to LOOK on large swathes of the hobby industry. that's why there's so many small companies used mostly for money laundering.
I don’t think GW is money laundering lol
Yeah I give up
yeah, they're not they're just trying to hide what part of their markets are profitable and what aren't.
Damn you reminded me, I need pizza now
:D
Lol
Time to call up UberEats and enjoy my freezing cold pizza once it arrives 👌
don't pizza places have dedicated drivers with stuff just to keep the pizza warm?
I woke up, and I was craving BK so fucling hard and got the estrogen burger
The broken AC is the pizza warhamer
Yeah they have bags
oh man i hope we get a warhammer pizza tie-in, and it better not be dominos
Lol
Wish granted its Pizza Hut
pizza hut is acceptable, at least you can eat it without nightmare shits later
The only warhammer pizza
they'll eat anything in the riekland, i swear.
this is also the image that made pineapples canon to fantasy.
God pineapple would be trh best food to torture someone with
You are a dark elf
‘Damn I’m bored, and I’m guarding the slave pits’
‘They are complaining about being hungry
toss in a whole ass pineapple in there
It’s sharp
It’s hard to eat
Eating too much makes you throw up
Even funnier
You take a dish of completley normal food and you add pineapple slices to it as they watch.
The pine apple wych cult
Sounds like German cantine kitchens. 😁
Do Dark Eldar have Mukbangs?
I'm going on a leap and say yes. But they're probably not the ones eating, they force their Mon'keigh slaves to eat, its one way to get satisfaction for those sadistic pricks.
Even funnier. They make an elaborate feast and tell their captives one dish will give them euphoric death when in actuality they mean literally. Inside one of the plates is a cyanide pill.
Gonna be one helluva food fight
That would be too quick
also if you want mukbang just look at your average Imperial noble
Literally in this case

ah fuck that's the artwork relating to a noble using Halo devices, one of the most messed up things I ever learned in 40k. I'll take the bomb collar instead please and thank you.
There are few worse fates
Seriously I think it has some of the worst CGI in modern TV 
yeah, didn't realize I was capable of bleeding through my eyes after watching the first few episodes of that show. that IS HERESY right there, and I've been in the game since original H2's release.
they broke the number 1 rule for the Master Chief, taking off his helmet. Only silver lining was Jen Taylor starring her role is Cortana. Soren-66's defection? Read the book, it was better and thrilling, not some dude who decided to settle on an asteroid where the Millenium Falcon hid in EP V. Oh I could list so many more grievances, I can create another Chaos god at this point.
The second image Is the average loyalest noble lmao
... not even gonna mention the crowning moment of the entire series: Chief having sex with the Covenant prisoner of war? 
I was willing to tolerate a lot but when that part came up, I just gave up lol
I remember having heard rumours that it was supposed to be a Mass Effect series but they got the right for Halo
Never really searched if it was true though
Honestly, it would make a lot more sense too. Chief in the series just kinda runs around with no helmet, doing Shepard stuff
That's one of many on my list of grievances. He ain't even worthy of being called Chief, that's why I call him Jimmy Rings. I mean seriously if you wanted a love interest, why couldn't they bring in Parisa? Childhood friend, still clung to the promise John made her as a kid. Oh and yeah, a marine Lieutenant who isn't affiliated with the Covies. I swear, the producers of the show didn't even play the game, They just looked at the box art of each game case and winged it from there.
The covenant just sort of being there
Yeah the whole show really confuses me in that regard. They must have obviously read at least some of the books, since they got a couple of details and things in, that usually only book readers (or major lore enthusiasts) would catch.
But for the general plotline and everything else... it just felt like they employed their worst fanfiction writers lol.
Yet another case of writers looking at the source material, scoffing, and thinking they can do better. Again 
I would've felt more emotion if that Kwan girl was killed by a jackal sniper. Because she'll be dead which would invoke happiness. And I would laugh because she would get owned by one of the most notorious foes to ever grace Halo's campaigns(H2) in the highest difficulty.
I feel sorry for the actress tho. Given what she had to work with 
and yet somehow, I felt more emotion for a seven minute short film called "Landfall", with a limited budget and meant to promote H3's release, than I did for 9, hour long episodes made by a bigger company.
Halo TV action is good, but can your average marine throw a spike grenade at a moving banshee and destroy it? no.
I miss Sodaz
yes
Tbh I think his current stuff is better than his 40k stuff
100%
Also i love watching the 40k reuploads of his vids
and everyone in the comments is like
"CANT BELIEVE GW DID THIS TO HIM, FOR THE EMPEROR MY BROTHERS"
Bro you are the ones that witchhunted him
💀
Nobody ever said warhammer fans were inteligent
I didn't get into 40k stuff until like, a year after his channel shut down? But his videos(reuploads) lured me into the insanity that is 40k. First watched video? Iron warriors vs Imperial Fists.
They are very good
Whoever was doing a Vraks animation
even if what they did was very stupid lol
Iirc the entire point wasn't to stomp fan stuff, just so the animators couldn't make money off it
And also I'm told the guy that got the ball rolling on the "crackdown" was none other than everyone's favourite Norwegian 
2nd fan content video I watched was ASTARTES, which, good for him since his chapter was included into the 40k universe, but the sequel will probably not see the light of day anytime soon.
Astartes is in a very weird spot
its been like 2 fucking years
Also he was making a SHIT TON of money on his patreon before GW intervened.
Hes the only creator im sus about on how the "deal" exactly went down.
A) part 1 took forever to make
B) iirc he's basically an advisor on all the anims now so he's probably busy
40k fans when you tell them animations take a while to make 
The sound of the bolter shots was mmm crisp.
Astartes was great yeah
a bit too Marine wanky but it wasnt too bad
at least one marine should have died from those autocannon blasts
That's like the only time I've seen Astartes armor take damage from non Space Marine arsenal. It's kind of hard to visually picture what it looks like in your head.
I get why they were basically invincible tho at least
it makes them look unstoppable before they get bodied by that alien creature.
Some channel, bless his sacrifice, managed to upload the entire Angels of Death Warhammer+ videos onto youtube into a movie few months ago. Wasn't that bad, though i'm still a novice on 40k details. Only minor issue was the lip movement when they spoke.
Angels of Death was very bad
just.. so much shakey cam and nonsense dialogue/action
also the mocap on the Marines was very awkward too
and the fact that they survive a lot of part where they should have just gotten bodied
But its made by the Helsreach guy so that was kinda expected
oh Helsreach, my favorite, starring my 3rd favorite Astartes chapter. Still get goosebumps when Grimaldus gave that speech.
thats good at least
Helsreach always felt janky to me
I liked Hammer and Bolter, which is apparently scandalous to say
Reminded me of transformers and Thundercats
Well the quality is equivalent to GMOD for a good portion and they used Louis from L4D as a model for the Salamander sergeant. Could only work with what he had at the time.
Yeah Helsreach made up for it with the plot
Nah Hammer and Bolter is mostly good
its a fine opinion to have
Theres only like... 1-2 episodes id say are just shit
Still haven't seen The Exodite yet
LEL
You are literally missing nothing
its basically nothing stretched over 30m
GW released a 10m ep each and padded it out over like 4 weeks
I've only liked "Iron Within" so far.
Well I like Robert Eggers films and that's the same experience so I'll give it a shot
And then Clancy Brown monologuing for 5 minutes
Yes
also the ending was Looney Tunes levels of funny
Many death korpsmen died to being us this animation
And much more should have
I only appreciated "Iron within" because of how they showed the Iron Warriors and the way they fought, everything else, eh, satisfied for seeing Drukhari getting their asses handed to em
When you make a faction act moronic like that yeah

If it was a real dark eldar raid and everyone on that planet would be dead
but Marine animation so not surprised
Maybe the Dark Eldar would've used the vehicles they were using 5 minutes prior on the marines
Or anything other than Kabal warriors
That, thank you lmao
Also a fucking
jetbike following a road going straight at a chimera
Shouldn't their guns still be able to pop marines decently easily
Yes lmao
you see this in hammer & bolter
one well made shot literally kills a chaos terminator since the splinter shard goes through the visor and into the marine's brain

I think i quit when I saw a Raider go by a road to be hit by a landmine
I've been waiting for Bannerlord to launch for over an hour 
Stupid wahammer mod
Empire my beloved 🙏
Was that the trazyn one
Because the other eldar one was 
Yep the Trazyn one
the actual Eldar one was indeed 💀
those aspect warriors stood no chance against those flying Primaris guys frozen mid-air in 1fps
the titans too lmao
If they were lucky
Dark Eldar plan their raids to painstaking detail, theres no luck involved
their raids only go awry if the opposng force is waiting for them or if they drag the raid out.
Which 95% of the time doesn't happen since the planet will be empty by 24 hours
I’m saying the people who are dead on the planet are the lucky ones
Oh that
ah well close enough

I just brought it up since most people just dont want to accept that many Imperial officials just let dark eldar take what they want since theres no way they can usually mobilize "help" in time
Yep. Then there’s that time when they tried to raid a hivefleet and it backfired horribly
Isn’t there a group of dark eldar who attached genestealer parts on them that suddenly became very interested in that planet?
Uhh no
Thats after the planet stealing
It doesnt mention anything about them getting infected, just using the parts for fashion.
Even if an infection began Vect or another rich asshole Archon would just nuke em at worst.
Yes it was after they took the planet. It was in one of the 8th edition codexes and heavily implies a genestealer cult got started
I mean yeah but nothing comes out of that
as with many 40k codex lore blurbs
because the writers suck 
It's probably a Haemonculi experiment
Drukhari genestealers would easily be the grossest thing in the setting
They're already planning on dooming the Drukhari anyway
excellent
The codex lore blurbs are quiet fun to read though
they are i agree
Still waiting 
where else will we get good memes such as the Iron Hands decimating an entire population thinking they were keeping recruits from them
when in reality the population was just getting stolen by human slavers

Ouch
Probably one of the FUNNIEST blurbs i had read

Didn't the Salamanders gun down a bunch of Nocturne natives for being caputred
That i dont remember but sounds like them
Does it?
I'm pretty sure they just left them to die
They were just having a bad day ok?
For certain chapters, every day is a bad day.
the nocturne natives were descendants of people enslaved by the dark eldar and then saved by the normal eldar
They're hardly chocolate, more like charcoal
^
yeah, that's why they don't make my top 5, 1st belongs to Crimson Fists in my list.
This is why I like charcarodons, who have never done anything wrong
Whatever.
is this because people think they are african-american

in order of top 5 1st to last: Crimson Fists-->Lamenters-->Black Templars-->Fire Angels--> White Scars.
no wait lemme fix that. there we go.
What's so special about Crimson Fists?
They're cool
Aside from the obvious.
Pictured; tactics marines never use outside the heresy
Wrist flamers? That reminds me of Star Wars.
Get ork'd losers
Pedro Kantor, MF chad of an Astartes, said to a woman with her children, "Time that someone carried you now".
Mantis warriors are my fav <3333
and the fact his name's "Pedro", in 40k!
LMAO
That’s amazing
I don't use 4chan.
Anyway, what was this discussion about before being interrupted by that shirt?
Crimson Fists being neat
They really are the neatest of all the neat marines
Crimsons fists, the only loyalist chapter I like that wears blue. Not the Ultrasmurfs.
these always give me zulu war british depiction vibes
Yeah thats a classic thing in old paintings
bunch of lads bunched together in a hill or something similiar while shooting/attacking their enemy
warhammer does it a lot
even 40k doesn't have child soldiers
They're called White Shields
inb4 somebody mentions krieg
It's a Cadian thing
cadians are cool but could they just stop representing all militarum
They don't, they're the generic template and you can build anything
i read about all sorts of wacky regiments in the books
40k absolutely has child soldiers
its just that uh
along with suicide bombers you just dont really want to read about that stuff since its too close to IRL
what like the Jopall Indentured squads?
get a squat model and remove the beard
less wacky then that one but yeah
time to go back to reading about the wacky misadventures of the purple nurple chapter and the inquisition
Which one
the soul drinkers of course
Thats a theory because the opening hook of the alien artifact beaming knowledge straight into brain
is the big plot hook for mass effect 1 lol
oh god they're making another hammer and bolter episode lol
with the Exorcists and Lucius the eternal in it
Uh oh
WHAT
yep
its not out yet
Oh yeah I know i mean the promo
Aw damn, not even a screenshot/image
AH there
He's fighting 2 chaplains
oh my god I hate when they do that so much, those janky ass 3d models
also Lucius looks shittier than his actual old af model
50 cents says he broke into the funny room where they shove daemons into people
Oh I know what's going to happen
He lets one of them kill him, resurrects in the monastery, kills his way out
I love one trick characters!!!!
Also like its very obvious too
I usually like H&B but including named characters is just stupid
they arent going to die
Trazyn kekw
he appears at the end as a good plot twist
Yeah but he's a Necron
Yeah
Yeah that too
That episode is good
fr fr
And Lucius' entire gimmick is resurrecting out of enemies
Like he isn't going to kill his way into the Fortress Monastery
Bannerlord is still loading btw 
Lol
I think its time for you to give up on that
He has been mentioned awhile ago gathering Da Boys
You know who else was mentioned
which isnt gonna go anywhere until the E.C codex comes out
Luther
Lucius is pretty
Meh
Like overall even in EC lore
He doesn’t even lead the biggest group
It’s kinda funny
he literally is the same character in every appearance, even before the Heresy
He’s the “mascot” of them rn
Pompous asshole?
Yep
him also betraying the loyalist element of the traitor legions stuck on Istvaan is hilarious

Mfer's ego is fragile af
More fragile then glass
Inb4 the episode twist is that he gets used as possession material for a marine
ah fuck its Mr Licky Licky Show-off's a lot. AKA He who Strokes his Ego. And the JUDAS who switched sides with the remaining Loyalist Defenders on Istvaan III back to the traitor legions cuz he was a bitch.
he has so little personality that traitors left him on istvan because he didn't take any sides and they assumed he'd be with his commanding officer
All part of his plan
He very clearly was only going with the flow and got caught off guard by the traitor situation
Has there been any instance of a primaris Wulfen yet?
just wtached my first henshin, i now knwo what i must do
I meant Slaanesh
Lucius being caught as his pawn is comedic gold.
i havent reached the part where lucius gets his champion status but i can assume that it went like:
"hey lucius, want to keep being the best swordsman and be immortal in a way that whoever beats you becomes you?"
"aight bet"
Yeah that’s about right lmao
He’s so pissed every time he revives lol
Because he can’t go back and beat them in a dual
Bcs he’s turned them into a face on his armor
I prefer Sigvald
why he look like he man but with extra dip
wow, is this man going commando? cus something tells me that behind that loincloth isn't a layer of fabric.
he's a slaanesh champion so it figures
Sigvald? More than likely!
Valkia would kick him in the happy sacks and take his stuff before he knew what had happened.
Doesn't he has a Chapless armour in AoS ?

Seems about right for Siggy
They are about the same
Sigvald is nowhere near as evil as Lucius due to how much the other character is a prick
Yeah Sigvald is just normal, murderous evil
Lucius is traitorous, asshole evil
^
Lucius' actions carry a lot more weight since he cause da lot more damage for loyalists in many areas lol
Shame lucius is kinda kicking bag for ‘super badass mega loyalists@
There’s like 3 times a loyalist marine killed Lucius permanently
But, he came back
So
Lucius, are you guys talking about that swordsman of slaanesh that is honestly not the even that good and the only reason why he wins is because of that stupid passive
Okay so Cannonically he’s supposed to be literally the best swordsman duelist ever
But is only good at 1v1s in lore
So he just targets teh best swordsman on the battlefield
Problem; it’s a blood angle book
Theirfore he fucking dies to make the new HH model cooler
So his protection from liek, getting ambushed or dying from cross fire
Became his only gimmick
Also Lucius is just not well written
Yeah
His entire character is a bit of a stretch reading that, you're telling me this guy can fight the swarm lord in a sword fight?
Okay when he first appears he was cool because he was just, a fuckinh psychotic upper class child
Like it was shocking someone loyal to the imperium would be like that
I mean
random people kill Swarmy all the time
so

And he was loyalists until he switched places with Rylanor
also that too
he was butthurt and wanted to go be with Fulgrim and his legion
which is

Yeah but no offense those moments the swarm Lord would have won if it weren't for the classic writer moment
Yeah it’s amazing
Yeah it sucks
Swarmlord "realistically" speaking shouldnt be even possible to get near to
The swarm Lord is basically the organic version of the avatar of Kane at this point
This yes
the Avatar of Khaine literally gets choked out by Fulgrim at one point
you know
a fucking magma statue
How can like fragments of a God get thrown around like a rag doll in a GTA game
because funny
honestlyy, i dont know if it would have been better or worse if lucius stayed loyal
it suffers from immortal syndrome
where if a character is immortal they're gona mcfucking die more
and became the champion of slaanehs jsut form how terrible of a fucking person he is
and no help from fulgrim
This is warhammers favorite plot device
Don't worry they are disposable
this is why orks can get slaughtered left and right because well they have immense enough numbers that if one were to die he has more than 100 replacements already\
I remember when a few months ago we learned that Angron can return after 8 Weeks
And people were like
"Oh hes a mcuh bigger threat now"
lol
wasnt it 8 days?
"Oh yeah hes gonna die more"
8 days if he gets a big sacrifice
Yeah that
OHHHH okay
Also 8 seconds
it doesnt matter does it
or 8 units dead
so 8 hours
In the warhammer universe this is a given if that thing has immortality or it's very hard to kill his ass will be kicked in so hard it will look like a crater
is literally casino dice rn
Yep this
no stakes
no drama
If you roll triple 6's
just cheap action
you get to revive Angron
when has it not been cheap action
in the overarching narrative lol
that hurts me so much, slaanesh's numebr is six
that oculd have been demon of slaanesh's gimmick
Yeah its weird
tbh
its like the blood tithe system from AoS
then they would have the khorne player rolling 6 dice instead of 3
litearlaly one for one it is lmao
Also nah like
yeah i really like it honestly lmao
an Imperial guard planet kills TRILLIONS of invading khornates by the time they run out of men
and
the last 8 fucking berserkers
all turn to bloodthirsters
LMAO
Why is it missing a nine it was so close so
Okay but this is hilarious
9 is tzeentch's special number
by that time nearly 95% of the planet is dead
oh whoops sorry auto bot
tzeench players when they roll a 9:
lets FUCKING GOOOOO
also same reason uh, when you fight the Traitor Captain in the game sometimes he'll go full Ishowspeed
and begin muttering
"SEVEN SEVEN SEVEN"
yeah
Seven and Three are nurgles favorite number
mostly seven
but all his pox marks are in 3's
yep
Ork players when they roll successfully in the shooting phase ( your army is going to get shot with enough bullets to make you inhale it like oxygen )
i really want all the 4 mono god factions to get s ome gimmcikw hen you roll thier number
just make it something really stupid
imagine if they bring back the special bonus for having weirdly sized units lol
that woudlnt help
bcs back in 6th
i know tzeentch use to have a gimmick somewhere if you roll a 9 when casting a spell
you got bonuses for having noise marines in 6's, plague marines in 7's, berserkers in 8's and Rubrics in 9's
if you're wondering how good it was
like many things in 6 it was terrible
especially chaos things in 6

also question about tabletop
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oh its al movement gimmicks








