40k-lore-chat

[arctic talon]

But electro priests have only like 3 imperial aligned minis

And one of them is part of the rogue trader killteam

[crimson kayak]

Oh ye true

[arctic talon]

Vander grauss

Or whatever his name is

He isn’t one of the super psycho ones

But his natural eyes are still melted out iirc

[crimson kayak]

Ye, I wonder is bionics can be used as eye replacements

Grauss seems to have them

Otherwise I don't understand the googles

Also negavolt i could steal the dreadlock cables

[arctic talon]

That’s what electro priests usually use

[celest dome]

Larsen Van De Grauss
But he isn't really a Electro Monk

[arctic talon]

He’s still an electro priest

He’s just higher ranked and less insane

[celest dome]

You sure ?

[arctic talon]

Yes

He’s a lecto maester

Also he has a volt ghiest field generator

Which is exclusively an electro priest thing

[celest dome]

Though Electro Priest were a final evolution, like couldn't become an Artisan after

[arctic talon]

Nah

It’s pretty fluid

In terms of your career progression

Cawl was an assistant to a biologis at one point

[rose thorn]

Honestly I wish GW expanded upon the religious branches of the admech, correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t there 3 main religions in admech?

[arctic talon]

Sorta?

They have a holy Trinity

[rose thorn]

I know there’s the guy obsessed with info who’s like, the majority, the electric priest guys, and the uhhh

[arctic talon]

People who worship the Omnissiah, the Motive force and the machine god

[rose thorn]

Ohbyeahhh

[arctic talon]

Electro priests and other groups worship the motive force

primarily

Most people worship the omnissiah

and then the machine god is worshipped by everyone equally

On Ryza they don't worship the motive force but instead worship the blood of the machine god

(Plasma)

Which makes electro priests a rarity on Ryza

[rose thorn]

Pls gw can we have not skitsrii ?

[arctic talon]

GW did gut skitarii this edition in the rules

So its more likely then ever we'll get cult mech amiright

(Its going to be more skitarii)

[rose thorn]

Shame they won’t translate the HH stuff because the guy who was supposed to do it died

I was gonna make a joke about that happening in lore but then that would be in bad taste

[near wasp]

Perhaps

[echo vault]

The lumineth already have furries they're the spirit of the winds

[storm jungle]

I know but that wont stop me from killing you

🫵

[echo vault]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-evil-laugh-fire-flames-burning-gif-24546963

[astral whale]

Wait does this mean Fandubs are going to be the main source of non-english lore?

[rose thorn]

I mean make HH admech have 40k Loren

Huh what interesting lore

[storm jungle]

god

I hate lexi on mobile

[rose thorn]

ikr lmao

Also I found out why hive Fleet Kraken Ouroborius is called that

Because it eats other Tyranids lmao

[storm jungle]

LMAO

thats hilarious

[rose thorn]

That earned it quite a few points for me lmao

I do quite like Grendel’s colorscheme

[storm jungle]

yeah the naming for hivefleets usually tend to imply what their gimmick is

[storm jungle]

Ooze 👀

[rose thorn]

Honestly that’s fair, it’s not like the fire breathers who just happened to be able to breathe fire

[storm jungle]

tho i do say mostly

some are just "generic mythological monster name from wiki"

[crystal forum]

quick, intern, get me a list of greek mythological monsters!!!

[storm jungle]

LITERALLY

aaaaaa

[rose thorn]

I wonder why hive fleetms Carnivora’s gimmick is hmmmmm

I’m not sure if splinter fleets are supposed to operate like companies or if they are supposed to be their own thing

Like, some are just their main fleets with a slight color on top

And some are completely different

[storm jungle]

They sometimes operate as their own thing

even developing unique camo schemes

[rose thorn]

Honestly I just want that new death leaped

I might go Ouroborius because it’s scheme is cool and lore wise would use my beloved leaper best

[rose thorn]

I’m 90% sure Grendel Literally just got new lore but idk

I’m a sucker for Cotten candy blue

[storm jungle]

might be best to check the lexi to be sure

[rose thorn]

I heard it’s from the lore from the new box but idk

Oh well

Time to legally make a killteam

God I love goonhammer articles

So much spite I can taste it

[near wasp]

he lost to a railgun one to many times

[distant osprey]

How to beat the railgun:

run orks
literally just use boyz and nothing else
center your army around a 16-gallon tub of dice
make your shooting phase take so damn long that by the time the tau player gets to shoot 3/4ths of their army is molten slag

[crisp heath]

Bruh... The kindle version of the Leviathan novel is only 60 cents cheaper than the paperback...

[crystal forum]

very expensive bytes

[crisp heath]

If it's still the same price when the book properly releases I guess Leviathan will be my first physical Warhammer novel lmao

I'm surprised more people aren't hype for this book. It looks like the novelization of the 10 ed trailer and I always see complaints about how rarely tyranids actually win a conflict.

[arctic talon]

Stealth suits suck in kill team

[arctic talon]

HH admech are still around in 40K

Legio cybernetica just can’t use any of the battle automata

And thallax are rare as shit bcs no one wants to make them

Tech thrall are just a punishment

[storm jungle]

This is why being a heretek is best kids

just don't get caught

[arctic talon]

Lol

[rose thorn]

DONT TRUST STYGIES THEY ARE wonderful and completely loyal

THEY USE completely compliant technology bless the omnissiah

I will proceed to make my self into a servitor

[summer rover]

"who pasted differently lettered phrases on this scroll?"

[rose thorn]

“Why do all these virus warnings go off just to say everything is okay?”

[heavy bison]

This, I managed to find a really good Greater Blight Drone file so as soon as my printer arrives I'm printing some extra rotors for my Enginseer so he can buzz around nurge's precious demon engines. Gonna run some as Heldrakes, scaled up a little.

the old GBD's look so much better than the new Death Guard ones.

[arctic talon]

The old one is still buyable

however

its a forgeworld model

so just print it

[heavy bison]

Yee

• I honestly want to scale it up to be the same size as the Vultarax.

[cunning sierra]

Hello, if anyone knows a bit about the Black Templar lore. Can some advise on a Psyker that they'd work with?

Got the Leviathan box, wanna paint them as black Templar, but the new Psyker unit (That looks fantastic) I'm finding hard to fit due the lore.

Like due to the space fairing element to them, I'd imagine they use Psykers for warp travel. But is there a paintable faction they'd fight along side with?

[green loom]

Aren't psykers unplayable with BT

[celest dome]

Think so, they have rules that block them afaik

And Psyker aren't really needed for Warp Travel, only Navigators (Other sort of Abhuman)

[sharp grove]

So here's the Palanite Enforcer emblem

And here's some 'twin castle' spin-off found in various places in Darktide (chests, dead enforcers, riot shields, etc)

Anyone know who this new enforcer symbol is for?

[celest dome]

For the Terthium Enforcers

[crimson kayak]

Ye they don't have a name, we just know they are our local enforcers

[sharp grove]

Ah so entirely new from Darktide, that's cool

[celest dome]

Palanite Enforcer are just the only one we know of and they are from the Palanite Cluster

[crimson kayak]

And even then we only see them operate on Necromunda

[celest dome]

So basically by deduction they would just be Terthium Enforcer

[celest dome]

Technically only on certain part of Necromunda

[sharp grove]

We know from voicelines etc that there is a 2nd secret hive on Atoma, maybe that's what the 2 spires in the emblem refer to? But if it's in the enforcer emblem then it can't be that secret lol

[celest dome]

No, the 2 spires are in Terthium

[crimson kayak]

Tbh by name alone ours should be the third Hive technically, but yeah the twin spires are Tertium symbol

[celest dome]

And there are 3+ Hives Cluster

[crimson kayak]

Just don't look too deep in this stuff lol, same as the water cartel, they are just nods to other stuff and background

[crimson kayak]

Same as how the Cult working with the 6th has a name and everything and in 100+ hours never heard it in game once

[sharp grove]

Woah you're right, I never thought of that!!!

[green loom]

Look around the prison map, the symbol is plastered around

And in one of the hab block missions you can find dead enforcers

[sharp grove]

Would you mind elaborating on the different names and why we're the 3rd? And is there a Tertium emblem somewhere?

[green loom]

The hive we're in is called Tertium

[crimson kayak]

We don't know anything other than the fact our hive is name Tertium, wich more or less translates to Third

Tertium i don't think has an emblem per se

But the local pdf does use a red square thingie under the 21th symbol on their right shoulderpad

[celest dome]

It does, it's the skull everywhere on the game

[crimson kayak]

???

I... May have never noticed them

[sharp grove]

Wow, TIL it was an actual latin word

[celest dome]

Those, there are posters in the Hive with them too

[crimson kayak]

Wait till you find out Hadron literally means Thick

[crimson kayak]

Uh, always confused this for being the warband symbol

But I can see the twin spire motiff now

[green loom]

And a III

[celest dome]

It's not really explained, like a lot of things

[sharp grove]

Holy turdsmobile I never even thought of that. That makes so much sense. The two blades = two spires and the three "I I I" = tertium/3 hives

And the 3 underhives are under the 2 spires. Wow

[green loom]

It has a 3 because it's Hive Tertium(third)

[celest dome]

There are no 3 Underhive

[green loom]

It's not a stretch to assume the others will be called Primus and Secundus

Assuming similar to Necromunda, anyway

[celest dome]

Well, there are, because there are 3 Hives, but not attached to Terthium

[sharp grove]

I think you are right. I found these 2 mentions in the game text for Secundus (albeit not Atoma's)
Autogun description:

First issued in the final days of the Rezmar Campaign, this distinctive design was adopted by the reinforcing Brindelweld and Moebian regiments during the final offensive on Sunspire Secundus.

Ogryn combat blade description:

Not the most subtle of camouflage schemes, but remarkably effective on the ferrous plans of Nox Secundus, where it mimics the distinctive coat of the enormous ferro-tigers, which stalk the planet’s inhospitable plains.

[crimson kayak]

Look at the words before secundus

It's different places

Hive Secundus =/ Nox Secundus or Sunspire Secundus

[sharp grove]

yeah that's why I said not Atoma's

[crimson kayak]

Oh

Didn't see it

[sharp grove]

I just meant Ederius' assumption is very sound

This has been very enlighting y'all, thank you very much

[celest dome]

Not all Hives are just named by their numbers, but it most likely is

[crimson kayak]

Np, if you need anything just ask

[sharp grove]

Btw there is this mention of "Tertium's Enforcers" in an Ogryn chest piece description so maybe they really don't have any other particular name:

Tertium's Enforcers had a brief dalliance with seconding Ogryns in the more troubled parts of the hive.

[crimson kayak]

Ye one of the voice packs also has a past as an enforcer helper

[celest dome]

Palanite Enforcer isn't really a particular name either

[crimson kayak]

Also ye, it's literally just where they come from

[celest dome]

It's like Parisian Police and Londonian Police

[sharp grove]

Makes sense

[crimson kayak]

Now that I think about it, Corrupted Sanctioner Servo automata could be cool as elite/bosses

[sharp grove]

Also I can lookup the game's subtitles/descriptions if any of you want to see if there are mentions in game for a word

[celest dome]

Yeah, I want the Enforcer to appear as enemy as a Khornate Cult, with Convicts as Horde

[gloomy citrus]

I'd love to see some other cult then a Nurgle one.

[crimson kayak]

Ikr

[gloomy citrus]

Slaanesh cult would be a source for PTSD.

[crimson kayak]

I can understand S and T are not the easiest to get right, but you don't really have to go full Porngore or Eldritch horror to begin with

[sharp grove]

@crimson kayak @celest dome I have good news for you

[gloomy citrus]

There's always the UD option. Or not even Chaos, but simply GS.

[sharp grove]

There will be a traitor enforcer coming :)

[crimson kayak]

Wait what

[sharp grove]

Voicelines are already in the game, unused and unremoved

[crimson kayak]

Oh

Then I wouldn't race my mind toward it coming anytime soon lol

[sharp grove]

No haha

[crimson kayak]

Same with the other 10 thousand data minable buried files

[gloomy citrus]

Tzeentch would mostly be Tzaangors, other mutants, some small daemons, and a load of puzzles, labyrinths, etc.

[celest dome]

Isn't one of the Traitor Captain personality called Enforcer ?

[celest dome]

While they each would most likely have a few themed maps, they would most likely share

[sharp grove]

Some unused voice files have the soundbanks removed, so there is more likelihood of this traitor enforcer though. I also know the next zone/environment will be the entertainment/seedy/red/city district so it makes sense there will be enforcers there. The voicelines also sound like a boss and I know there will be a new boss in the new zone

[crimson kayak]

Ye but what I mean is that if it's a situation like here in Darktide, you don't even need much of the Impossible geometry/labirinth hellscape

[gloomy citrus]

Tzeentch loves to fuck with people.

Not in the Slaaneshi sense.

[tender roost]

I'm not sure if this would be the right chat for this but might anyone know what kind of pistol this is? I assume it to be a variation of plasma pistol but this one is unfamiliar to me.

[crimson kayak]

Zeus=Tzneetch confirmed

[gloomy citrus]

It could be a grav pistol.

[celest dome]

For Tzeentch
Horde: Mutant Rabble or Thralls
Bruiser: Reskin
Melee Elite: Tzaangor
Ranged Elite: Psykers
Big Elite: Horrors
Monster: Flamer of Tzeentch

[sharp grove]

If you don't get an answer here, #40k-minis-and-armies might be able to help

[crimson kayak]

What model is it?

Definetly either plasma or melta or smh like that with that muzzle

[celest dome]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Graviton_Pistol

[gloomy citrus]

Like I said.

[crimson kayak]

Oh yeah, just looked, it is a grav

[tender roost]

I'm not even really sure as this and the others I bought were second hand. They were labelled as "combat squad"

[tender roost]

Lovely thanks guys for your help :3

[tender roost]

@crimson kayak

[crimson kayak]

Ye it's a Sergeant but sadly I can't pinpoint the exact model

[tender roost]

Oh nice I thought it was a Lieutenant tbf but this whole squad is mix matched so imma just have to take creative liberty for this future Crimson fist squad bur thank you once again

[green loom]

That's the sergeant from the tac marines kit

99% sure

[tender roost]

It is. I just had a look and xD

Guess my hunch was correct I have a 5 man tac squad to paint

[storm jungle]

Bro i swear i gotta take a shot every time someone constantly has to shove sex stuff with anything related to slaanesh

[celest dome]

You'd die

[storm jungle]

I mean I hope so

[celest dome]

And feed Slaanesh due to the alcohol excess

[storm jungle]

[queen laurel]

Gottem

[vale shuttle]

take a shot everytime slaanesh is mindlessly equated to sex, drugs, or LGBT people

[queen laurel]

That would be more than the population of the imperium

[vale shuttle]

gonna make my BAC 1

[gloomy citrus]

[iron locust]

Does anyone new what the latest veteran shop cosmetic is meant to be based off

[echo vault]

If you had to serve an evil god not just the chaos gods (nagash, hashut, vampires, the misc 40k stuff) what would you choose, I mean I'd just full send it and go hashut because at least I'd look cool

[gloomy citrus]

The drawback with Hashut is that you can litteraly turn to stone.

[echo vault]

If I was a dwarf

[gloomy citrus]

No, in general if you use magic.

[echo vault]

I mean hashut likes not just his sorcerer prophets as we see with horns of hashut

But they do get favor

I just thought the turning to stone was a dwarf thing due to them not being made for it and it's a side effect of using magic

Plus if you're good enough (drazoath) you can live relatively free of the turning to stone

[gloomy citrus]

Most Chaos god related things have a shitty down-side.

[celest dome]

Tech. Not a drawback of Hashut but something innate to the Dwarf iifc

[echo vault]

Well yeah but it's a matter of you have to rather than you can, if you had the option most sane person would run away screaming instead of serving a god of hell

Or just nagash

[gloomy citrus]

Or Undivided.

[green loom]

Dwarfs turn to stone when using magic/sorcery
It's not a Hashut thing

[gloomy citrus]

Huh.

[vale shuttle]

whhy do they turn to stone

[green loom]

Unsure

[gloomy citrus]

Because they're built that way, I guess.

[green loom]

Something something winds of magic

[echo vault]

Dwarfs are mostly immune to magic outside of runes

It's like an allergic reaction

Immune as in, very difficult to harness magic and with more downsides

The only exception is being really good at being a sorcerer you're not gonna slowly get petrified, which is one guy drazoath. Like a literal skill issue

[celest dome]

Aren't made to use magic directly

[celest dome]

Drazoath also use very small magic, unlike Astragoth

[echo vault]

Haha small

Drazoath is mostly preoccupied with kdaii so I'm probably wrong but I like drazoath

So I wanna bring him up as much as possible

[green loom]

Coolest colour scheme and armour

[echo vault]

I love the classic chorf loof but the edgy welded on masks of the infernal guard are so cool

I just love it

[green loom]

Style

[echo vault]

Although first time using infernal blunderbuss units in total war I forgot that positioning matters so I was like why aren't they shooting like a dummy

[green loom]

Better image

[echo vault]

Crispier

[green loom]

It's like regular dwarfs, but infinitely cooler

[echo vault]

Definitely, and with bigger hats

[green loom]

Also Fireglaives are goated

[echo vault]

Like I wanna wear this it's so cool

[green loom]

Hashut! Hashut! Hashut!

[echo vault]

Chanting hashut in my mind has helped me get out of bed more than a few times, cringey ik but whatever helps. They need to release the trailer ost for the chorfs trailer

That music is good

[green loom]

The chaos trailers are pretty goated

"Now the time has come to reap what has been sown! The true test... awaits"

[hallow saddle]

[echo vault]

Do deff dread pilots have to be hooked in like dreadnoughts

[queen laurel]

Yeah, but the process is a lot more horrifying

They're basically like dreadnoughts piloted by an ork, but after finding out that they can't get out of it they can go insane and most of the time you have to chain them up so that they don't go rampage

[celest dome]

Killa Kan also

[queen laurel]

Surprisingly the goblin bastards are still cowards after being strapped into a ten feet tall killing machine

Like you have to put them in a group if you don't want to one of them to suddenly go the opposite direction of where your guns are firing

[celest dome]

Surprisingly ?

[queen laurel]

I mean i'm just surprised that the grots don't get any more braver, i mean you get given giant weapons and guns i'm pretty sure that would give you some bravery

[vale shuttle]

ohhh what's this from

[green loom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWqXJ8U1blU&ab_channel=GameSpotTrailers

[crimson kayak]

God i love those helmets

[crimson kayak]

Tbf shooting in ttw is bad in general

[crimson kayak]

Wait aren't they volunteers?

And get angry cause warbosses don't want to waste them on random fights and literally fighting is the only thing they can do post getting Kanned?

[crimson kayak]

Some kind of tallarn styled gear

With more visible armour

[queen laurel]

Yes, they volunteered but as their dreams of power are hampered by the fact that they are permanently wired into a metal can. This causes the Orks inside to turn a bit mad

They thought it's was just fancy armor

Didn't expect to be permanently wired into it

[crimson kayak]

Oooh, that makes sense

[tropic olive]

Why not

[green loom]

Because Curze and the Night Lords are psychopathic killers and torturers

[celest dome]

Didn't G-Man despise Curze

[storm jungle]

ah yes my favorite Primarch

Tom Cruze

[earnest snow]

I still find it very amusing that the Lion wanted to nuke Maccrage to take out Curze.

Understandable because primarch but amusing

[crimson kayak]

Tbf Curze was also on a one man Jihad against the planet and winning as long as he wasn't found lol

[earnest snow]

Because a great deal of people viewed the night lords as savages, torturers, etc etc non honorable ruffians. Guilliman definitely held this view. The idea would have worked if guilliman wasn't in that thought process, but he was. The night lords were meant to be those that made even the other legions feel uncomfortable as they're astartes brought up in a city where ||rape|| is somewhat normal. Even in the night lords trilogy they make a big deal of who these people are in the legion even before the horus heresy as these kinds of people.

So they're just the black sheep of the legions

[earnest snow]

My main man had to deal with Curze doing a round of amogus in his ship too so I can understand

[crimson kayak]

Also yeah I would find it kinda hard to trust a system conquered by the night lords to anyone else for the simple reason that if they rebel again they kind of already seen it all already too.

Cant really scare the guy that probably saw his entire town skinned alive and used as decoration if he's still able to rebel after the boogeyman is gone.

[green loom]

Curze took an L though after Corswain skewered and choked him

Corswain stays winning

[storm jungle]

Guilliman LITERALLY called an emergency meeting with Sanguinius and Lionel

[green loom]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745324840097153167/1113107072024854629/Theres_a_traitor...._among_us.mp4

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-kill-all-impostor-gif-18706928

[storm jungle]

NOOOOO

[green loom]

YOU STARTED IT

[storm jungle]

OK FAIR

[green loom]

Plus the organ theme goes hard for some reason

[crimson kayak]

Ok now when properly ripped out models are a thing i want to see the traitor cutscene but it's an emergency meeting at the mission terminal table

[green loom]

I think mr Janfon is piecing them together

[crimson kayak]

Ye i saw some

[storm jungle]

Yeah hes been doing that for awhile, its very difficulty due to the file formations

like how he has to painstakingly staple every texture to their right place since the model comes in as blank

[crimson kayak]

God how I love simply doing 2d digital drawing after hearing what 3d artists go through

[storm jungle]

I cannot imagine honestly 💀

[green loom]

I tried doing stuff in blender months ago

"What do you mean the textures refuse to show up"
"What do you mean there's no weight map"
"What do you mean the head and helmet are fused together"

[crimson kayak]

If only I had a dollar for every time I saw someone doing 3d animation and their model suddenly turning into a fifth dimensional entity for no reason at all I would be a rogue trader by this point

[green loom]

Fun fact, the helmeted models for Space Marine's guardsman have a face underneath them, but it's fused to the helmet

It took me 2 days to properly detach it

[crimson kayak]

Just as the founding golden father intended

[green loom]

It also destroys any texture map you try applying to ti

[gloomy citrus]

Are you referring to those midgets that follow around the Dark Angels?

[green loom]

What

No I meant the Cadians in Space Marine, the game

[gloomy citrus]

Oh, ok.

[green loom]

Watchers don't have faces and may not be corporeal at all apparently

[crimson kayak]

They do have metal hands, or at least some sort of glove

Also btw just found out that negavolt cultists don't actually have anything to do with electricity as they harness their negative emotions to throw actual fucking warp energy at the enemy

[green loom]

They have mini space marine limbs apparently

Sinister little bastards

[storm jungle]

Jawa Moment

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-the-old-republic-swtor-jawa-jawas-gif-23305433

[green loom]

My reaction to this information

[earnest snow]

He wanted to say hi like in the meme videos

[earnest snow]

Damn right. Still having the lead champion of sussy games like amogus in your ship is still terrifying

[gloomy citrus]

They actually seem to have faces, unlike the WitD.

[storm jungle]

Yeah I know

its pretty funny

[rain tusk]

They have a deficated short story in the vaults of obsidian

[grand obsidian]

is the inquisition symbol on the zealots chest a specific 1-to-1 or is it just a generic "I with skull and wings"

[celest dome]

Doesn't really mean anything further than Inquisition owned

[storm jungle]

Thats not the Inquisiton

its the Adeptus Ministorum

the designers just added the wings because Imperium

[celest dome]

Didn't notice

[plush mason]

"can i copy your home work?" moment

[storm jungle]

Lmao

yall say that but

[plush mason]

they have a thing for the letter I huh

[storm jungle]

Yeah thats just for some of the more "general" branches

Other imperial factions get to be a bit more unique

[plush mason]

the eagle head and the lighting bolts on the Custodius one is um, yeah

[storm jungle]

KEK

yeah the lightning bolts are mostly entirely for the Custodes

[plush mason]

ofc i doubt thunderskins where/are a thing in the UK

[storm jungle]

Yeah its based more on the roman zig-zag lightning

the designers prob knew that to avoid being too Nazi

[plush mason]

ye

[queen laurel]

My question is why is it human skulls

It's so prevalent in the imperium that it rivals khorne

[celest dome]

Skull were prevalent in the Empire in fantasy, 40k picked that up too

[queen laurel]

Ooooooh, that makes Sense

[storm jungle]

Yeee its because it just looks cool

im sure theres some random ass in-universe version for it like

"showing the sustained human form" or whatever bullshit

[green loom]

The veneration of Martyrdom and stuff probably plays into it

Just a very morbid culture

[rain tusk]

Aren't the skulls mainly a thing in the imperium after the heresy because of all the deaths and such?

In reality they did it because they (GW) thought it looked cool, but heard ppl give the events of the heresy as a reason why the imperium likes skulls as much

[arctic talon]

Its just the martyrdom culture

die for the cause and all that

[crimson kayak]

Ye

Willingness to sacrifice oneself for the community as taken from the real life use of skulls in military emblems + the added motif of the fact that even in death, the human form is better than a xeno

Also the prevalence of bones is present in a lot of religions, just look at the irl Bone Church

Mismash the whole together and you get the Imperial Skull Obsession

[summer rover]

it's not that complex, the imperium is cribbed from the nazis, because they're both authoritarian governments that spend all their energy on hating "outsiders".

of course they're gonna duplicate the iconography. warhammer is just that unsubtle.

[crimson kayak]

Also true

[storm jungle]

Its about the same as how people don't want to accept the aquila being a fascist symbol.

"Its totally based on the roman eagle bro, trust me"

[green loom]

Yeah so was the other one lmao

[storm jungle]

You love to see it

[arctic talon]

Lol

[crystal forum]

it is?

eagle symbols are so prevalent everywhere that I can't tell anymore

[storm jungle]

Its very nazified due to how hostile and sharp/angular it looks

mostly also because 80's england had a lot of anti-government movements due to Thatcher being compared to a fascist by a lot of english punk teens at the time

aka half the people that made Warhammer/Rogue Trader

[celest dome]

I mean, a lot of fascist stuff is themed on Roman stuff

[storm jungle]

Well yeah thats my point

If you showed the imperial aquila to anyone that doesnt know 40k nobody would go "thats rome right"

[crimson kayak]

Tbf fascism as a whole is roman inspired

[echo vault]

the fasces

[crystal forum]

the idea of racial superiority which always devolves into roman fandom

[storm jungle]

engage the New Vegas discussions

https://tenor.com/view/caesar-legion-red-yellow-meme-gif-22986033

[echo vault]

I've only ever played legion in my new vegas playthroughs because being a horrible asshole is fun

[crystal forum]

also the idea of "degenerate art" which is pretty much what slaanesh is about and the irony is completely lost on a lot of 40k fans

[rose thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/reappear-appear-gif-20802583

the strip is baller af

[arctic talon]

The Legion wasn't even gona be a playable faction at one point in development lol

and I'm still mad we didn't get the choice to side with the followers of the apocolypse

[rose thorn]

tahts why they have nothing pre act 1 lol

[arctic talon]

literally got robbed of that choice tbh

[rose thorn]

you can join them

[arctic talon]

Okay but they were gona get their own ending

which would be very ironic considering they're the reason why the NCR exists in the first place

[echo vault]

understandable

I mean thats why it feels hollow, both because of development, and also on purpose

because you are an invader p much

[rose thorn]

i lov eth eFOA, but i doubt they are powerful enough to beat off the 3/4 other afctions

[echo vault]

i think they can beat off the leaders of each faction quite easily

[crystal forum]

something i don't get about 40k being supposedly a parody of fascism is how the eldar are a sodom and gomorrah situation @storm jungle

[arctic talon]

yeah

[arctic talon]

Eldar aren't really part of the facism paradoy umbrella

[storm jungle]

^

[arctic talon]

They're more of the

[storm jungle]

The Eldar, Necron and Orks are basically "older race which has fallen from grace"

[crystal forum]

like why did the 40k creators justifying the imperium's paranoia

[arctic talon]

I mean

[storm jungle]

they never did

[arctic talon]

it isn't justified objectively lol

[storm jungle]

^

its the imperial fans that try to justify it

[arctic talon]

The eldar falling is literally the eldar going too far

as a society

as in making the dark eldar look like pansies

[storm jungle]

from the VERY beginning the Imperium has always been perceived as the horrible nazi-romans.

[crystal forum]

isn't it justified to fear everything if chaos is a legitimate threat that exists?

[crisp heath]

The xenos stuff isn't justified, the chaos is stuff is maaaybe you have a point vis a vis imperium

[storm jungle]

No because the Imperium actively feeds chaos

[arctic talon]

^

The suffering feeds chaos soooo hard

[storm jungle]

Thats the irony of the setting

[arctic talon]

the hatred and anger

[storm jungle]

the Imperium is its own worst enemy

[arctic talon]

feeds chaos sooo hard

the slaves feed chaos sooo hard

everything feeds chaos

[crystal forum]

it's like saying that those loser fascists who cry about moral degeneracy are correct about something. at least to me

[storm jungle]

nothing it has done in the last 10 millennia was justified

[storm jungle]

literally yeah

[arctic talon]

Except the imperium aren't correct about the craftworld eldar

[storm jungle]

the Great Crusade was also a massive galactic genocide

[arctic talon]

objectively speaking

[crimson kayak]

literally everyone except maybe nids and tau has fallen from grace at this point

[rose thorn]

"da ancient technology of da killacan'

[crisp heath]

The tau haven't had grace to begin with

[storm jungle]

The Craftworld eldar also barely if rarely ever attack without reason unless its Biel Tan, and even then they give most settlers on Eldar worlds a chance to evacuate before they rain fire on them.

Imperium fans also have this mindset

[arctic talon]

Beil tan is just racist lol

they're the racist facist eldar

thats a mirror to the imperium

[rose thorn]

i think tau lost grace around when they pulled the chinese goverment card

[storm jungle]

lmao

"Wassup Beijing."

[arctic talon]

The tau have always been authoritarian

they're an authoritairian imperialistic nascent nation

that gives you the message of join or we'll make you join

[crisp heath]

I always read the necrons actually being the way feudal nobility saw the world so not really fascist

[arctic talon]

they've always been this way

[rose thorn]

what was the tau tietaman square, when a bunch of kroot ate a bunch of civilians

[arctic talon]

Necrons are just feudal society

[crystal forum]

it's kinda funny how many 40k fans genuinely believe that the tau are the chinese government

[arctic talon]

they aren't really facist

[crisp heath]

Like you have a small collection of lords who are actually important people, and then a lot of mindless drones to carry out their will

[arctic talon]

the tau share more in common with the US government

just sayin

along with how they fight

which is clearly a parody of nato combined arms

[storm jungle]

It entirely comes from the fact that their aesthetic is asian, thats it lol

[crystal forum]

the tau aren't a real species. they have the whole psychic thing going on. why anyone would apply a fictional group to real life is beyond me

[arctic talon]

[storm jungle]

it depends

because 40k likes to parody a lot lol

[rose thorn]

i dont think the us goverment liek to enslave a population and spade them so they cant reproduce and force them to make plasma genrators until they are extinct

[arctic talon]

the reason why I like the imperium is because its awful lol

[arctic talon]

[rose thorn]

for the greater good! (for the tau)

[storm jungle]

They KINDA did

[crisp heath]

The only thing really Asian about them is the Gundams, a katana or two and maybe some of the names

[arctic talon]

I am not going to be getting into

this shit rn

[storm jungle]

same

💀

[rose thorn]

OH YEAHhh

[arctic talon]

but the US government did sorta do that lmao

[crystal forum]

please be sarcastic

[storm jungle]

Yeah lets not get into that

lmao

[arctic talon]

also the US government def engaged in uh

[rose thorn]

yeah

[storm jungle]

lets focus on fictional fascism instead

[arctic talon]

TRUE

[storm jungle]

like how the imperium literally has concentration camps

[arctic talon]

also the tau don't steralize people

[storm jungle]

but nobody mentions this

[arctic talon]

thats been out of date for a while

[crystal forum]

which ones

[arctic talon]

They're akshully labor camps to the omnissiah

[storm jungle]

Uhhh a lot

[arctic talon]

Work will set you free

[storm jungle]

theres literally entire penal-worlds designed for it

[arctic talon]

-magos idfk

[storm jungle]

basically its majorily for humans that dont do the things you should do as an imperial

[crystal forum]

it's just a source of cheap labor though right

[storm jungle]

Yep

[green loom]

They have concentration PLANETS not camps lmao

[storm jungle]

you basically get sterilized

[arctic talon]

They do have literal extermination camps

[storm jungle]

and work until you do

[arctic talon]

for undesirables

[green loom]

Oh nvm mentioned after

[storm jungle]

also yeah that too

[arctic talon]

but they also have labor planets

[storm jungle]

basically anything that existed in IRL concentration camps exist there too

[arctic talon]

so they have both early war concentration camps and late war ones

[crystal forum]

i guess the imperium does shit on such a large scale that you kinda forget how fucked up it is

[arctic talon]

one is just a really shitty labor camp

the other is you know

[green loom]

Jamie pull up the excerpt from the 40k crime drama that shows the servitor conversion facility

[storm jungle]

Pretty much

[arctic talon]

the funny volcano incident

[storm jungle]

the Imperium literally does every crime that the nazis did

[crisp heath]

Pretty much every planet that isn't a paradise or primitive world is a labor planet

[arctic talon]

The one where the skitarii guard beats somone to death? or the other one

[green loom]

I think so

[rose thorn]

i mean, whos making those planets a paradise

[arctic talon]

tbh I'd rather get beaten to death by a metal pipe then turned into a servitor

I'll grab the servitor factory exerpt brb

[storm jungle]

The Imperial guard for example might be shown as the "defenders of humanity" but they are also the type to force non-combatant civillians of the populations they defeated to walk through minefields for fun or stab them with their bayonets lol

[rose thorn]

and thats why i say knight worlds are the best worlds to live on

[arctic talon]

Here

[crisp heath]

I'm pretty sure they're just naturally not grimdark so you just plop down a dozen of your richest folks and try not to commit any atrocities

[arctic talon]

oh ew its formated badly

one moment

[crystal forum]

reminds me of that star trek TNG episode where they find a being that wants to be left alone and when picard pries info from it, it's actually so powerful that it killed an entire species of billions for killing its wife.

The being wanted to be judged by the federation but picard said there's no way to sentence such a crime

[green loom]

Hardly

Instead of an exclusively fascist hellscape you get to live as a feudal peasant beholden to fascist nobility in giant mech suits who spit on your existence

[crystal forum]

that episode always stuck with me

[arctic talon]

The cold smell hit me like a brick. Like a meat store, where astringents can’t hide the smell of incipient rot. There were notes of faeces to go with the blood and decay. The sound was the worst.

Shouting, screaming, praying, weeping, all the cries of human terror and misery.

I’m not a squeamish man, and nor do I spare tears for those who deserve punishment, but what I saw in that processorium haunts me still.

Naked human beings were standing in a switchbacked line between high fences. Outside the fences Adeptus Mechanicus menials in environment suits stood guard with shock goads in hand. The people, all mature men and women, were shepherded down the caged walk like livestock. And they were food beasts being led to the slaughter, meat for the ravenous appetite of the Machine-God. I grew up lucky enough to eat real meat. I was unlucky enough to see where it came from – another gift of my father on another damn tour of my family’s various businesses. The manufactorum produced servitors, but it was more akin to an abattoir than a workshop. Every surface was easily cleanable. Large plastek flaps divided areas from each other. Servitors with spray units surgically attached to their backs prowled about, hosing filth into slit drains set into the perfectly smooth, slanted floors. We walked above all this, past sentry pods on spikes occupied by galvanic rifle-armed snipers. Our path went from one end of the hall to the other, and I could see pretty much the whole sorting process, beginning to end.

As the line slowly advanced, the people were passed through various scanning devices, most of them mounted in ugly, functional arches that let out a constant series of acceptance chimes. Occasionally, one would let out an angry blare, and the indicator lumens would flash red. The rejected person was then swallowed up by a trapdoor opening beneath their feet. From these pits wafted a hideous stench, and the grinding sounds of industrial mincers. One rejected man grabbed on to the lip and hung there, arms and hands bloodied, shouting a stream of defiant profanities. Guards lined the grating either side of him and shocked him until he fell. The adepts wouldn’t even waste bullets on these people.
The trapdoor flipped up, and the next terrified person was ushered forward.

A number of pneumatic gates separated the people from each part of the process, snapping open and shut with bone-crushing force.

Violent metal arms snatched them up and spread-eagled them in the air, and a servitor shearer shaved them all over. At another they were subjected to a high-pressure counterseptic wash whose chemical stink made me choke from a hundred feet away. More scanners, more rejects winnowed out. Machines forcibly dressed them in the heavy rubberised garments common to all mono-tasked servitors. These were saggy on them, all one size, until another process force-shrank them to fit their bodies where metal cuffs, sockets and collars bit into vulnerable flesh. The last few prayers gave way to screams at that point, and even the most stoic shouted in pain. They were ushered over a floor buzzing with power that made them shriek with every footstep.

‘What’s that for?’ I asked.

Djelling answered only reluctantly. ‘Follicular inhibitor. To stop their hair growing,’ he said.

‘How?’ I asked. Djelling was done answering. ‘Come, come, this way.’ He waved me over to a door.

I didn’t come this way. I watched numbly. The shivering lines of terrified men and women reached a final series of gates, where a high-energy augur beam of such potency it made my dataslate buzz passed over them. Dazed, they were manhandled into different queues, and then hustled from the room to their fates.

Djelling gripped my elbow with surprising strength and pushed me out of the hall. ‘This way. Please,’ he said.

[crisp heath]

Just live on a primitive world. No worse than bronze age earth, and the only bad thing that happens to you is sometimes the Great Eagle descends and takes a few boys from each tribe every 30 years or so

[storm jungle]

One 30k book has a very similiar scenario where Ferrus and Fulgrim genocide an entire civilization of humans/aliens co-existing with each other, as the planet is fully taken over they shoot down the last escaping exodus ship of theirs in space and their last transmission is:

"We just wanted to be left alone."

[crystal forum]

yeah the ship fleet that made a joke out of horus's fleet lol

[rose thorn]

worst case, mechanicus house, best case, yuo become a guard for an imperial house

[arctic talon]

Mechanicum houses aren't terrible

[rose thorn]

worst worst case, chaso

[arctic talon]

you get a higher standard of life

then a imperial one

however you deal with all the usual mechanicus weirdness

[rose thorn]

counter argument, alot of them are on forge worlds

[arctic talon]

mmmmm

slave labor

[rose thorn]

'ah yes, lead water'

[arctic talon]

You'll be so augmented you'll be fine

[crystal forum]

tbh i dont think the mechanicus would waste lead for pipes

[arctic talon]

you won't even have to think for yourself

[rose thorn]

i dount admech would waste augmetnations on slaves

[arctic talon]

They do

[crisp heath]

Skitarii are serfs

[arctic talon]

Ironicially

[crystal forum]

augs can be really cheap. just look at servitors

[arctic talon]

Skitarii aren’t actually slaves

[green loom]

And get poisoned because the nobility is a more brutal copy paste of Game of Thrones

[arctic talon]

They’re from the class above

They’re former tech menials

[crisp heath]

Yeah, that's serfs

[arctic talon]

No those are normal menials

[rose thorn]

i love that shit, thats why klnights are my favorite

[arctic talon]

Tech menials are inducted into the cult mechanicum

[rose thorn]

poltical gaming whiel fighting literal demons

[green loom]

Ever heard of the "Half Knight" of House Hawkshroud?

[arctic talon]

They have barely any rights

Instead of no rights

👍

[green loom]

Guy's family was poisoned in their sleep, he was the last survivor
He challenged the guy who did it to a duel and got crippled because of it

[rose thorn]

to be fair alot of knight houses are just the average medieval peasent life with some scifi shinanngans

[crisp heath]

Anyway I would like to apply to be a planetary governor. I can make things much worse

[rose thorn]

king maker had cars

whcih were cool

[green loom]

The Half Knight nickname comes from the guy that crippled him

[rose thorn]

PFFFAFHJASFHAHAHAHAH

[green loom]

It's bleak as fuck

[crisp heath]

I hope one day the imperium looks at Wraith Knights and are like "oh damn that's a good idea"

[rose thorn]

im stuck between hosue griffith and house cadmus

[arctic talon]

Flip a coin

[crisp heath]

Hook up a psyker in a knight like a dreadnought, make his brother pilot his body

[crystal forum]

knights are kinda boring for me

the whole medieval aesthetic is just uuuhh

[green loom]

I like all the main Imperialis houses

Cadmus, Griffih, Terryn and Hawkshroud

[rose thorn]

theres a cool one where tey are pirates, one where they are all like nomad princes

[green loom]

Cadmus are mega chads because they used to be Questor Mechanicus but told the forge world they were beholden to to eat it after fending off an invasion without help

[rose thorn]

honestly the loyalest HH ones arent very good

loyalist*

[crisp heath]

Knights are inherently cool, just baby titans that can run at you with double chainsaws

[crystal forum]

sounds boring to me

just slightly bigger dreadnoughts but less cool

[green loom]

Not exactly dreadnoughts

[crystal forum]

yeah, less cool

[rose thorn]

i love cadmus' hunting hames

im a sucker for imperial huinters

hunter*

[crystal forum]

i just want a biggass tank

feet are for nerds

[green loom]

I like the bit where the Knight suits are sort of sentient and merge with every new pilot they have, both changing itself and the pilot to be more compatible

[crystal forum]

baneblades are nice

[rose thorn]

I love when the pilot can communicate with the past pilots too it’s cool

I really like the honors and shit too

I also love individuall character s

All of them

Are allowed to be who ever the fuck you wnat

My knight character I forgot her name

Is a raging ass who murdered her arranged husband on the day of her 18th birthday which was also the day of her wedding

He was marrying her to try to inherit her dead brother’s kngiht

The gentle blade

Note she killed him in a duel

So she takes literally any duel

I have a document of her lore

[rose thorn]

I fcuked up reading hive Fleet oruosboris’ lore

So they are named after oruosboris is because tiem travel

Hey first appeared pre first tyranic war

Then they flew into the eye of terror

Then they appeared during the second

And flew into the warp

And ordo chronos thinks they keep time traveling back and forth

Causing them to appear at both times at the same time

[summer rover]

"In we go to eat tzeentch!"
"In we go to eat tzeentch!"
"In we go to eat tze-

[versed ledge]

Nom

[crimson kayak]

They found the warp ghosts infinite biomass/manpower glitch

[rose thorn]

It’s like in a game when you lag and you get teleported around

[rose thorn]

LMAO literkaly perfect

Imagine seeing 4 swarm lords together

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[green loom]

They could make 4 swarmlords probably

[rose thorn]

The oruos meeting it self for the 800th time

[crimson kayak]

Wich Is funny cause I imagine Saronos having mastered word for word his exchange with abaddon during the 1st black crusade every time he needs a new body

[storm jungle]

thats hilarious because Ordo Chronos also fucking disappeared from the time once due to time-travel

they VERY recently re-submerged in lore after the whole ordo was declared lost

[green loom]

Ordo Chronos would make for an unironically badass game

[rose thorn]

HAHDGAHAH

[storm jungle]

Deathloop

[rose thorn]

40k has the best time travel

Because it makes no fucking sense

[green loom]

Rick and Morty snake time travel episode

[storm jungle]

Yeah basically because the writers dont care

KEK

[crimson kayak]

It's literally almost fully random for almost everyone

[rose thorn]

Less is more

[storm jungle]

time travel is also a very dangerous thing to play with

as a writing tool i mean

[crimson kayak]

Ye

[storm jungle]

it can be like End Game where its just fucking stupid

[crimson kayak]

There's a reason warp ghosts have been reduced to ferrymen and mercs

It could have been real bad if they became for any reason important

[storm jungle]

My Inquisitor character also has a miniature time travel device which sends him like 5 seconds back in time by creating a small bubble-area around him effecting anyone in it.

||The downside is the more he abuses it the more brain damage he gets||

[green loom]

You're a new recruit and meet your boss
Your boss is you but different
You're first assignment is to hunt down a grand architect of some timey wimey bs
Meanwhile you meet another head of the Ordo leading another faction, he is also you
He sets you on the path to find the big villain, on the way you encounter some sort of ellusive warrior(hint: it's you 5 hours from then)
And he helps you get to the villain
The villain is you

[crimson kayak]

(btw ollanious too time traveled back to the men of iron rebellion didn't he?)

[storm jungle]

THATS JUST THE PLOT TO SPIDERMAN SHATTERED DIMENSIONS

[green loom]

It's also the plot of uh

I think EYE

[storm jungle]

yeee

a lot of time travel stories has that "he was the villain all this time" twist with the protagonist

[green loom]

My favourite is Stranger of Paradise

My least favorite is destiny

[crimson kayak]

Wait destiny has that plot twist?

[green loom]

Well no but it has time travel bullshit that I don't like

[crimson kayak]

Oh

[storm jungle]

Destiny's actually super confusing because it accurately kinda does the whole space time continium thing.

Instead of 40k where its really handwavy

like the fucking Vex

the most brain-assault lore ive ever read

[green loom]

You caused Saint to become who he is more or less

You also see your own future/death

But it also makes no sense, because you're supposed to be kinda free of that whole destiny thing, if I understand right

[storm jungle]

mfer when your enemy's weapon is powered by the spinning of a galaxy's disk from another timeline completely controlled by the vex

💀

[rose thorn]

Also oruosboris have a witch haze might literally just be their existence is unstable from time traveling so much

[storm jungle]

sounds a lot like me

the uhhh

unstable existence bit

[rose thorn]

Mood

[green loom]

I knew Turkey wasn't a real country

[storm jungle]

aughhh

[odd palm]

🤔

[rose thorn]

Here’s a lore question, what country is the imperial palace in

[green loom]

Where are the himalayas

[rose thorn]

My money is in Britain

[odd palm]

Eredius, you mean Türkiye?

[storm jungle]

STOP LUX

AAA

[green loom]

It's in the himalayas right

Or is that the hollow mountain

[storm jungle]

Jokes aside its... a majority of the lower asian continent, the center is based in Nepal/Himalayas

1 sec

[green loom]

Greasy

Get it

Greece

Grease

[green loom]

The Mariana trench is also a canyon now

[storm jungle]

Thats a "thank god it was all a dream" tier lore

[green loom]

Most of the unification wars are

[coarse pumice]

wait what

isn't it exactly where warhammer world is located, in nottingham?

[earnest snow]

Yo I stubbed my toe on that once

[storm jungle]

No? Lmao

i think you are like, way too stuck in Rogue Trader

its not 1924 anymore

[earnest snow]

In 40k, Atlanta, Georgia got swallowed by the sea and became the lost city of Atlanta

My source is Revelation

So what happens is Revelation tries to cover up an atrocity caused by his thunder warriors when they flooded Atlanta. His warriors were called that because they would cause intense thunder storms for weeks on end. Idk if anyone at GW knows how long it takes for a city to flood like this during rain but I assume they did their research. So the city by the time of the meeting with Uriah, is completely submerged in the ocean created by the thunder warriors. Uriah witnessed this, spread the info, and now Revelation is trying to pick up the beans.

Oh right relevation is revealed to be an angry goose later on.

God i love 40k lore

[rose thorn]

That’s surprising actually

[green loom]

Not too far from home for Emps

[plush mason]

ye

[arctic talon]

The vex predict timelines as accurately as possible I.E they have seen into the future and predicted our death

however the nature of the light and the darkness make us bend reality inherently

which renders us semi immune to these pre perscribed fates

[storm jungle]

Yeah and the lore also states that any timeline the Vex enters, they automatically win eventually.

The Light/Dark really mess that up

[arctic talon]

yeah the vex win via sheer attrition 99% of the time

They turn entire solar systems into factories

and its not like they're pushovers either their weapons are hotter then the sun lol

[storm jungle]

Yep and its important to know that the robots you fight ingame are like, not even scout robots, they are literally just roombas with guns

[arctic talon]

They're akshully construction workers

[storm jungle]

Yeee

[arctic talon]

also every vex raid boss is literally

[storm jungle]

like not even war-forms

[arctic talon]

just some nerd

[storm jungle]

Yep

[arctic talon]

that we beat the shit out of lol

We broke into atheons house, killed his friend, killed his dogs, and then shot him until he died lol

[storm jungle]

also as you say their gun lore is fucking wacky as shit, where the gun is literally POWERED BY THE SPINNING OF A GALAXY'S DISK FROM A TIMELINE THE VEX COUNQUERED

[arctic talon]

mmmmmmm

yeah

[storm jungle]

also they got bio-milk

[arctic talon]

Also the fact that vex snipers aren't actual energy weapons

they're just portals to a sun

[storm jungle]

YES lmao

like when you think necron gun lore is wack

the vex are something else

[arctic talon]

Tbh dark matter guns

aren't that weird

its the weird experiments the vex have as "weapons"

that are a lot weirder

[storm jungle]

yeee

their lore gets super mindfucky

like actual brain-ache

I remember my friend trying to explain it to me and i just zoned out after like 5m

[arctic talon]

Gorgons are fun

seeing as they find a timeline where you don't exist with it, overlap it with you and then you just vanish from existance

also vex demolition shields are even weirder they just transport bullets into an alternate timeline

or other debris

[storm jungle]

Yeah its just....

"Excuse me, the fuck did you just say"

https://tenor.com/view/time-travel-time-traveling-time-traveler-hulk-mark-ruffalo-gif-22954295

[arctic talon]

also its really funny that whenever the vex start understanding the light or dark

someone just fucks it all up for them lol

be it a guardian or the hive

[storm jungle]

legit skaven moment

[arctic talon]

tbf they don't cause their own demise

they just get shot/stabbed/murderized everytime they've tried

also ngl they have one of the only wide brimmed "hat" designs I like in fiction

[storm jungle]

yeah its great

its... very star wars droid

which i like

[arctic talon]

I do think its intresting how the Descendents of the current vex

look super primative compared to the present and precursors

[arctic talon]

like those mf'ers look old lol

[storm jungle]

true units

[arctic talon]

Also Ironicially they’d do great in 40K

Bcs of how much people like melee

You’re just getting radiolarian fluid all over yourself which means you’re gona get turned into a vex

[storm jungle]

YEP

[arctic talon]

Or building material

[storm jungle]

Like Vex get nerfed a lot due to gameplay

[arctic talon]

Tbh gameplay in destiny is

[storm jungle]

in reality fighting even construction forms would be horrifying

[arctic talon]

Pretty lore inaccurate

Bcs it would be unfun

[storm jungle]

Oh yeah Guardians are like

mini-primarchs

[arctic talon]

Everything kills you nearly instantly

You kill everything but the large things nearly instantly

[storm jungle]

gets killed by Fallen drop-pod

https://tenor.com/view/amir-gta-fivem-rag-doll-rp-gif-21167471

[arctic talon]

Cabal 🤓

[storm jungle]

DAMN IT I FORGOT

been awhile

[arctic talon]

You’ll just get crushed by a fallen mech

Instead lol

Or tank

[storm jungle]

lmao i mixed it up yea

also man i forgot

a normal cabal legionary is like bigger than a space marine iirc

and about hits just as much

[arctic talon]

They’re also stronger

And have jet packs

[storm jungle]

And you know

dont die instantly when you shoot them

[arctic talon]

They get bigger

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

The cabal are the only faction in 40K to not play laser tag tbh

[storm jungle]

oh yeah like the best way to describe them is Ork Space Marines i think

[arctic talon]

Bcs they have armor and natural armor

And are like 800 pounds of muscle and hard flesh

And that’s on the small end

[storm jungle]

Yeee lasguns would also barely do anything

[arctic talon]

Tbh a lasgun is a knockoff slap rifle for the cabal

[storm jungle]

fr fr

[arctic talon]

They deal with vex weapons fine

Which brings up the question

What the fuck is cabal armor made out of

[storm jungle]

honestly same

it has that like uhhh scale-look iirc

[arctic talon]

That it can survive literal hotter then sun lasers

And dark matter based explosives

[storm jungle]

[plush mason]

arent the Cabal like one of the strongest military forces in the galaxy?

[arctic talon]

Were

The hive sorta did the funny

Turns out having an entire civilization based on war makes you a prime target for a ritual

So almost the entire core of the cabal empire got wiped out in 2 days

[storm jungle]

Imperium if it had no plot armor Moment

[arctic talon]

Tbh the fact they’re still standing as a civilization

Is a testament lol

[storm jungle]

fr lol

also god

i just realised

a Space Marine fortress monastery to Guardians is like

just a fucking random ass Raid

💀

[arctic talon]

It’s a strike

💀

[storm jungle]

LMAO

YEAH

Like i forget how OP the bosses you actually kill on the end of levels are

its actually ridiculous

[arctic talon]

You literally clear out

An entire cabal land tank

• base

For a strike lol

[storm jungle]

Yeah its fucking crazy lol

[arctic talon]

And you kill it’s entire command staff

Which includes a cabal bigger then a greater daemon

[storm jungle]

Also you literally kill C'tan tier enemies, like fucking Rhulk

https://tenor.com/view/rhulk-yeet-gif-25063300

[earnest snow]

Just as the traveler intended

[arctic talon]

Rhulk is so fucking arrogant

It’s insane

[storm jungle]

I love him

[plush mason]

HE IS BACK!!!!!! the biggest mistake of forsaken is fixed :)

[storm jungle]

lmfao

Also i like how he like

literally moves as if he is treating you like insects

the animation team did an amazing job

https://tenor.com/view/destiny2-rhulk-kick-gif-25067019

[arctic talon]

https://tenor.com/view/destiny2-the-witch-queen-rhulk-vow-of-the-disciple-raid-gif-25105179

[storm jungle]

god i love that intro

[arctic talon]

His VA goes so hard

[storm jungle]

his soundtrack even harder

[earnest snow]

God bless the player going head first into his foot

Or at it

[arctic talon]

They’ll be “fine”

[storm jungle]

Finally i get to use this meme i made

[arctic talon]

Also my favorite quote from a piece of destiny armor is prolly

“I didn’t get hit by a missile I body checked it”

[storm jungle]

also reminds me of that one part of lore

where i think

its Oryx and another Hive big-shot

fighting on a bridge for a decade killing +trillions

[arctic talon]

It’s one of oryx’s servents

And one of xivu’araths

[storm jungle]

Yep

[arctic talon]

It’s ecthar

[storm jungle]

the biggest erotic story ive read

[arctic talon]

And I forgot the other persons na@e

[plush mason]

typical Titan mindset

[arctic talon]

It’s very homo erotic ngl

[earnest snow]

Destiny homo erotic Canon? 😊

[storm jungle]

I love that about the hype

also Oryx just changing his gender

because fuck your human biology thats what

[arctic talon]

Krill moment

[storm jungle]

Always was.

Saint Moment

[plush mason]

isnt Oryx an awoken?

[arctic talon]

No

he's hive

[plush mason]

or am i thinking of someone else

[arctic talon]

Awoken are humans

[storm jungle]

Awoken are literally just the "Humans but Hot"

[arctic talon]

but fucked up by paracausual energy

[plush mason]

iirc they are humans that tried to be the craftworld eldar but not stuck lol

[earnest snow]

I saw the awoken and thought of teen drama protagonists. So I went exo

[arctic talon]

lol

[storm jungle]

Exo are great

[arctic talon]

They tried escaping the solar system during the collapse it uh

failed sorta?

they got stuck in purgatory

and came out weird

[earnest snow]

Literally saw the emo hair and I just went "no."

Ima robot through and through

[plush mason]

Exo suprimacy

[earnest snow]

My exo woke up, next thousand years ruined

[earnest snow]

I don't ever delve too deep into destiny lore because idk where to even start. Alongside content purges I won't experience it as I want to which is through the game so rip me

[plush mason]

i wonder if my exo hunter still exists

[storm jungle]

Bro

i tried with the wiki

then i saw its like 40k but even longer

and just gave up

lmao

[arctic talon]

Ishtar collective

[earnest snow]

Hell yeah

[arctic talon]

[storm jungle]

Im just here for cool aliens

[plush mason]

it cant be as bad as warframe lore tho, right?

[storm jungle]

Hive Gang

[earnest snow]

Fan wikis are the best dw

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

Warframe lore is pretty short and consice

[earnest snow]

Exo coup de tat

[arctic talon]

it just uses big words

[storm jungle]

Also yeah like

[arctic talon]

That make no sense out of universe

till you do some digging

[storm jungle]

id rather have lore that is like this more than a universe that has no lore

[arctic talon]

then it all connects together

Destiny is just

hope you wana learn about 5 different races and their history

also some extra

god I can't get over how Ecthar looks like he's smiling

[earnest snow]

The only lore contribution I'll ever give to any universe is that at one point someone was lucky enough to take a direct mortar round to the forehead and live.

No one ever seen that person again so its a galaxy wide debate if the person lived or not.

[storm jungle]

40k mfers when when Rhulk ends up soloing an entire titan armada in 10 minutes or less using just his legs

https://tenor.com/view/indieknot-rhulk-rhulk-destiny2-destiny2-ratio-gif-25233806

[arctic talon]

Rhulk just does the funny and turns off the lights

[earnest snow]

Me on vr chat finding the titan models and hearing the loud noise

[arctic talon]

of your brain and soul

[storm jungle]

Rhulk's backstory be like

"Theres no tragedy. I just genocided my entire race for memes."

[arctic talon]

He was sad about it for all of 5 seconds

then decided no

they deserved it

[storm jungle]

Legit fr fr

[arctic talon]

also his greatest failure being

[earnest snow]

Me

[arctic talon]

that he commited genocide on his students race

without convincing him

that it was the right decision

and it really pissed him off

[storm jungle]

he was just... doing a LITTLE bit of trolling

[arctic talon]

inverts the sun

onto your planet

whoopsy

the upended is genuienly horrifying especially all of Rhulks "trophies" he has from races that he's "upended"

[storm jungle]

Yeah Destiny's "grimdark" is VERY hidden under entries