40k-lore-chat

[storm jungle]

Test 2

nope still fucked

[plush mason]

beware the path. the way is sealed. we head to death. praise be the dawn.

[earnest snow]

Starboard side. Yes yes. That way

[storm jungle]

Yeah i thought it was just me

Also for whenever this message loads in; basically about as powerful as you can imagine like Grendyl, aka having a sizable amount of cells and influence, after that it can go by any way

You do things like

• Just simply ask and see if the Trader is willing to help
• Abuse your power and say you are forcefully commandeering their ship temporarily
• Get dirt on em or play into the Trader's whims (scratch my back ill scratch yours) kind of deal

Test 2

[plush mason]

mine is lagging

i sent that over 4 mins ago wtf

discord really is dying

[earnest snow]

Woe, nurgle cometh

[plush mason]

mine is lagging

IT HAPPEND AGAIN

[storm jungle]

Test 2

AAA HELP

Yeah i thought it was just me

[plush mason]

mine is lagging

[storm jungle]

Test 2

[plush mason]

PRAISE BE

[earnest snow]

Inquisitors be like "lemme inquisit you" but really they do more than inquisition stuff. They partake in a good bit of economic, political, savvy stuff.

Which is nice because they all hate each other

[storm jungle]

"Lemme inquisit you" yeah stealing that one

[plush mason]

same

[earnest snow]

Glad to be a source of humor in these trying times

[storm jungle]

but yeah with the lag gone thats the usual answer

[plush mason]

the warp is claiming discord

[storm jungle]

its pretty much "it depends" but with less leeway

AAA HELP

[plush mason]

so more muddy soft power stuff. figures

is there an echo in here?

[storm jungle]

Yeah its still fucked

[earnest snow]

I'm gonna bludgeon a plushie with a tea kettle bruv if discord keeps acting up

[plush mason]

carful. your zealot chat is coming out

PRAISE BE

PRAISE BE

SHUT UP DEMON!

[earnest snow]

Glad to be a source of humor in these trying times

[storm jungle]

its pretty much "it depends" but with less leeway

Mobile test

but yeah with the lag gone thats the usual answer

Edit: Badly aged message

[plush mason]

https://tenor.com/view/uhh-hell-really-gif-18184040

[earnest snow]

Someone put a damn warp entity in the servers

[storm jungle]

Aight im just... gonna stop talking until discord fixes itself

[earnest snow]

I get violent when discord acts up against me. Makes me wanna bonk

[plush mason]

https://discordstatus.com/#:~:text=No incidents reported today.&text=Resolved - This incident has been resolved

[storm jungle]

test

[earnest snow]

Misery

Misery

Misery

[storm jungle]

Everybody wants to be

[earnest snow]

Misery

[storm jungle]

My enemy

[plush mason]

is it fixed? has the demon been driven from the servers?

[earnest snow]

No we live in virtual insanity

[tropic olive]

Test

[summer rover]

Vest

[near wasp]

god emperor damn these glitchlings

[summer rover]

the google spyware trying to build AI chatbots off meme channel logs is breaking down already. i guess warhammer memes were too spicy for it.

[plush mason]

?

[tropic olive]

Perturabo or rogal dorn ?

[plush mason]

Pert because even a shit personality is better than no personality :P

[tropic olive]

😮

[plush mason]

that was a meme answer btw

[tropic olive]

Yeah np lol

[plush mason]

i just mis clicked and ended up in zealot chat. the horror i saw

[shadow plover]

Pert anyday

[plush mason]

yeah just not for the meme reason lol

after all

Pert forced the greatest of shames onto Dorn and all of his son, having to be rescued by Papasmurf and his blueberries

[green loom]

New 10th art dropped

[minor ingot]

Lmao why are there two chaos marines just in the middle of all the smurfs

They must be named

[rose thorn]

Hey thr fuck they blueeee

The CSM lmao

[storm jungle]

Nah its just the filter

the artwork is a mess as it is so

[plush mason]

did GW forget there are other colors for SM besides blue?

[plush mason]

are the 2 dudes in the center standing on a pile of dead ultramarines?

[rose thorn]

LamaO

[celest dome]

You can see rocks

[plush mason]

i see

[plush mason]

but the primaris captain is standing ontop of a dead ultramarine it looks like lol

[summer rover]

a primarus is not, to put it simply, an intillectual.

[green loom]

I'm redesigning my chapter master, should I give him muscle plate?

[plush mason]

ether that primarus is dead or he is actively giving his captain a boost so he can be taller than the chaos lord

[minor ingot]

The latter is infinitely funnier so I'm going with that

[plush mason]

same

[green loom]

I wonder how chaos works in rogue trader

[plush mason]

as in the new arpg?

[green loom]

Ye

[rose thorn]

Ight leviathan preorder is this Saturday, I’m not gonna be able to get it lmao

[shadow plover]

the trailer did hint that you could turn to it so might be quite interesting

[arctic talon]

its prolly gona be MTO

[plush mason]

its just like in lore. everything from annoying tricks to abject horror

[arctic talon]

just like Indomitus

its prolly why there's such a shortage of kits rn

bcs GW ONLY HAS ONE FUCKING FACTORY

[rose thorn]

WAIT REALLY?!

[arctic talon]

yes

lol

Its in Britan

[rose thorn]

Ok I get it,

[arctic talon]

why do you think their production is so weird

[green loom]

Weren't they supposed to open one in China like 3 years ago

[rose thorn]

It’s like, a niche thing

[arctic talon]

For Codexes and books

and yeah its open

[green loom]

Ah

[arctic talon]

its also why codexes started leaking KEK

pretty much everything warhammer related made by GW is made in the Brittish isles lul

[plush mason]

wouldn't it have worked better in the inverse?

[rose thorn]

I know favorites are built for specific things, like a turkey factory can’t be converted to a brick one

But

Come on

[arctic talon]

Yes

but GW is weird

[plush mason]

right the books in Britain and make the minis in China

[arctic talon]

I don't think they want to outsource

is the big thing

[plush mason]

ah

[arctic talon]

but that also leads to the issue

of the online store being horrifically out of stock

whenever a new edition comes near

[rose thorn]

I think it would be better if there was a mini factory in the US and Australia

[arctic talon]

becasue they're busy printing the new box

[rose thorn]

Anyway, hey 3d printer

[arctic talon]

TLDR GW has essentialy dug their own grave

[green loom]

They're probably too busy making 14 new space marine moulds

[arctic talon]

when it comes to edition launch boxes

[plush mason]

cant they just build/buy another factory?

[arctic talon]

Yes

but they dont' want to

for reasons

they're such an overly cautious company

who hates taking risks

which also ironically is how they came out of the pandemic in better shape then when they went in

[green loom]

But will take up a cheap cash grab they maybe won't lose money on in 4 seconds

[arctic talon]

yep

lmao

They like money

and shitty mobile games

are very low risk

[plush mason]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-mr-krabs-money-interview-krusty-krab-gif-17411565

[arctic talon]

hi

anyways 50 cents says the leviathan box is gona sell out on the storefront

and then GW is going to do it made to order

[green loom]

Scalpers buying up every single box 0.0005 seconds after launch

[rose thorn]

Gw said they are gonna limit it 2 per gw account

[arctic talon]

scalpers got fucked hard

[green loom]

Like that'll stop them lmao

[arctic talon]

back during Indomitus

which was hilarious

mostly since there were fuck tons of indomitus boxes

on Ebay

selling for way cheaper

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[green loom]

Scalpers are annoying, not smart

[arctic talon]

yep

and oddsare

its gona happen again

[green loom]

"me make quick money hurr Durr!
O no! The consequences of my actions!"

[shadow plover]

Indomitus did go pretty well in the end, pretty much anyone who wanted one got one

[rose thorn]

Tbh I’ve been taking a break from gw stuff, m main sauce atm is wasteland warfare

[arctic talon]

thats a nice game

nice minis as well

[rose thorn]

Hype af for the capital wasteland expansion

Pretty cheap too

[green loom]

I can't buy, so I draw

[rose thorn]

All the rules for models and expansions were just dropped for free

[summer rover]

my certain accounts they can't afford to get more mini production lines because they haven't finished paying off the ones they got in like 2012 so they can't get another production loan.

[rose thorn]

Since they couldn’t print it anymore

[green loom]

There's Skyrim models right

[rose thorn]

Tahts for a much much more meh game

[green loom]

Seem to recall a squad of stormcloaks

[rose thorn]

It has gotten uh, zero support lol

[plush mason]

lmao

[arctic talon]

thats

fucking hilarious actually

how much did they put in lol

[green loom]

Haven't they been making absurd profits for years?

[arctic talon]

ehhh

for a mini company

yes

[rose thorn]

Also equipment is insane expensive

[arctic talon]

compared to an actual company

HAHAHHAHAHAHA no

[green loom]

They should make a genshin style Warhammer game, that'll rake in the cash

[summer rover]

can't tell, they love to not explain their expensive in invenstor's reports. we do know that large box sets are usually loss leaders for other mini companies and GW does mostly those now

[rose thorn]

Again?

[green loom]

No a straight up genshin ripoff

With only waifus

[arctic talon]

what about husbandos

you don't want to see a half naked man smh

[green loom]

Hey Eldar are twink-adjacent

[green loom]

This is false, i only draw men

I am partially joking

[arctic talon]

lmao

[green loom]

My current plans are to make a nice piece for my chapter master, and hopefully spread that around

[arctic talon]

oh yeah the battletech reddit imploded

which was funny

[rose thorn]

My favorite part about fallout wasteland warfare, is that

a; it’s literally 2 sentence rules at most per faction
B; it’s hero hammer af
C; holy shit The models are actually really nice

I’m planning tk 3d print

Bit

But*

Bethesda has terrible painters

[green loom]

Does it have NCR models

[rose thorn]

Yea

[green loom]

Based

[rose thorn]

They are actually pretty good

[arctic talon]

NCR is good in the actual game

[rose thorn]

They are about to finish up the fallout 3 expansion

[summer rover]

the minis are terrible for a game where you're supposed to represent the weapons the model has. 80% of the guns are fused to the torso

[rose thorn]

Next is nuka world

Then 76

Or yggg

Yhhh*

[summer rover]

so nuka world then the game becomes unprofitable.

[rose thorn]

That one fallout 3 dlc

[arctic talon]

The Pitt?

[green loom]

Brad Pitt?

[rose thorn]

No the other one,,

[arctic talon]

no this

[green loom]

Rad Brad

[arctic talon]

lol

[rose thorn]

I doubt they will have 2 raider waves in a row

[plush mason]

the is a Fallout TT?

[rose thorn]

POINT LOOKOUT

[arctic talon]

OH

yeah

that

[rose thorn]

I can see it

[arctic talon]

yes

[rose thorn]

But also I doubt anyone actually wants to play mountain folk

[plush mason]

is the big robot in it?

[arctic talon]

price wise its argaubly worse value per mini but

Liberty prime

[plush mason]

yes

[arctic talon]

https://www.modiphius.net/en-us/products/fallout-wasteland-warfare-brotherhood-of-steel-liberty-prime

yes

[rose thorn]

Fun fact! He has his own mission times

Rules

You have to use if you play him

FAR HARBOR

They might actually fucking finish far harbor

They dropped 2 creatures and scrammed

[arctic talon]

lol

lmao

its just mirelurs

*mirelurks

isn't it

[rose thorn]

Nah far harbor is fucling scary

There a lot

Let me pull it up

[summer rover]

there's maine accents! terrifying!

[arctic talon]

oh

hey thats from fallout 2 lmao

I never noticed that

[rose thorn]

angler

funfact, they hide in teh water

and theres plants taht look lik ehit

s

i got jummped so fucking hard

the dlc is really really dark and foggy

[arctic talon]

yeah

also domesticated Deathclaw lmao

the only fallout 1 and 2 stuff for wasteland warfare

is enclave stuff iirc

[rose thorn]

frank horrigan was added

to wlw

and hes uhhhh

busted

imm 99% sure hes the only 3 phase character model

[arctic talon]

as he should be

[rose thorn]

yea lol

my partner loves the enclave

[crimson kayak]

Peak Mirelurk Form be like

[arctic talon]

his SPECIAL Stats in 2 are hilarious

its a 10 in every slot

also he's in power armor

which makes him even more obnoxious lol

[rose thorn]

I FORGOT FAR HARBOR HAS WOLVES

[arctic talon]

doggo

[rose thorn]

'IS DOG FORM FAR HARBOR???'

OH also rad rabbit

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/a/a5/Fo4FH_rad_rabbit.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/350?cb=20160526180436

[plush mason]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout2-enclave-frankhorrigan-gif-22807892

[arctic talon]

I think Frank horrigan is literally the only super mutant in power armor

we've ever seen

[rose thorn]

okay the thing i wasnt most from FWLW far harbor is the the hermit crab

[arctic talon]

but Bethesda likes to make all the supermutants in their games have brian daamge

so

[rose thorn]

this thing fucking jump scared me

[arctic talon]

odds are we're never seeing that again lul

[rose thorn]

they explain why in fallout 4, but not in 3

except uhh

[arctic talon]

yeah

I'm aware

[rose thorn]

fawks

[arctic talon]

Fawks seems to be the exception to the rule

in FO3

[rose thorn]

yeah lmao

[arctic talon]

I'd assume the ones in 3 are dumb for similar reasons to 4

[rose thorn]

nah theres literally no reaosn in 3, they were dipped in the sauce

[arctic talon]

also the fact in far harbor it implies the vapors from FUCKING VIM(the drink) make them more intellegent

[rose thorn]

but for osme reaosn 99/99.1 have brain damage

[arctic talon]

the solution to violent supermutants is nigh

[plush mason]

in 76 they explained how the supermutants use to be US soldiers that where part of a super soldier project

[arctic talon]

we must feed them vim

[rose thorn]

i love vim, its lore is great

[arctic talon]

that makes sense

[rose thorn]

'hey hwo the fuck am i suppose to put maine ina bottle?"

[arctic talon]

lobter

[rose thorn]

shoves fish and plad shirts into a juicer

"yum!"

[arctic talon]

Vim Captains blend

literally has lobsters in it

which is hilarious

[rose thorn]

LMAo yeah

[arctic talon]

and it tastes good

according to the game

I want to try it now

[plush mason]

seeing as the leading soda in fallout is filled with literal radiation that isnt at all surprising

[arctic talon]

Nuka-Cola also having military contracts

is hilarious

[rose thorn]

yaeh lmao

[arctic talon]

also is it bad I like X0-1 power armor

bcs it actually explains

the gap between T-51 and the enclaves power armor

[plush mason]

Coke a Cola once bought a naval destroyer irl

[arctic talon]

okay but Coke-a-Cola doesn't literally make explosives for the army

[plush mason]

true

[arctic talon]

and use the same thing that makes them explode in their drinks

[rose thorn]

also it was pepsi

[plush mason]

oh right

[arctic talon]

pepsie bought an entire goddamn navel fleet

from Russia

*pepsi

[rose thorn]

oh and dont forget the literal human experiments nuka cola does

[plush mason]

i still dont know why

[rose thorn]

because pepsi sold soda to the ussr

but they couldnt use rubles

so they use to just buy vodka form them and resell it

[arctic talon]

when does the NCR get cars in wasteland warfare/s

I want to run people over

[rose thorn]

but apparently there was a shortage of vodka so pepsi bought a bunch of decomissioned ships and sailed it to poland i think for scrapping

[arctic talon]

lmfao

[plush mason]

how much Pepsi was the bloody USSR drinking?

[rose thorn]

i have no clue actually

[arctic talon]

the real reason imo

[rose thorn]

it was literally the only soda

in the ussr

[arctic talon]

is bcs it would prolly be a bit well

unbalanced

seeing as the NCR literally can mass produce cars

in the west coast proper

and the NCR units all in wasteland warfare

[rose thorn]

i mean lore wise CL has chariots, and the NCR used cars to get to the mojave

[arctic talon]

are the new vegas ones

[rose thorn]

but then they just forgot hwo to drive apparenelty

[arctic talon]

there's a truck

in the airbase

but its non functional bcs FO3's engine shits itself

with vehicles

[plush mason]

i will never forget Mr. House's reaction to me killing the NCR president lol

[rose thorn]

i rally want to make a WlW army themed on the strip

[plush mason]

"why did you do that?"

[arctic talon]

funni

[plush mason]

"he wanted me to pay taxes." Mr. House. "understandable"

[rose thorn]

lol

[near wasp]

love that

[rose thorn]

he then proceeds to chew you out

but still that was funny

[plush mason]

yeah

[arctic talon]

tbh literally any option but the legion

works out for new vegas

mostly since the legion is set to implode

in a couple of years

[rose thorn]

OH YEAH lanius is also insanely strong in WLW

[near wasp]

but chaos is the best option

[arctic talon]

He's built like a truck in game

tbf

[plush mason]

https://tenor.com/view/legate-lanius-fnv-fallout-legion-ceasars-legion-gif-22150487

where did the legion come from originaly?

[arctic talon]

Arizona

[plush mason]

that

[arctic talon]

they pretty much turned it from Raider capital #1

[plush mason]

explains a lot actually

[arctic talon]

to totalitarian hellhole

which is an improvement

ironically

not for the women

or really anyone but Caeser

but still an "improvement"

[rose thorn]

my favorite part in wlw is that lanius can literally turn off moral

[arctic talon]

the same way being a slave is a better alternative to being tortured to death over 5 years

[arctic talon]

Tbh he’s a big guy

[rose thorn]

one model with in black range you can jsut, shut off their moral ablitlies

also how the fuck is the fhildren of atom an army

they arent a subfaction

the y are a full faction

and have 3 models

[plush mason]

tbf when a guy that big and that cruel comes close its hard to not get scared

doesnt he also have a giant hammer or something?

[arctic talon]

Because uhhhh uhhhh uhhhhh

Idfk

I’ve never seen anyone with those minis either

Online or in person

[rose thorn]

they arent very good

also they cant equip armor, clothes, power armor, or dugs

considering legion cant use drugs or power armor

and legion is really good

[plush mason]

the legion cant use drugs?

[rose thorn]

their only models are 3 child of atom, two deciples, and a preacher

[arctic talon]

I’m not suprised

[rose thorn]

if far harbor gets a wave and it has more then i get it

becuase far harbor atom is actually baller as fuck

[arctic talon]

Technically yes

But they still do in the lower ranks

[rose thorn]

OH YEAH THEY CAN PLACE TERRAIN

[arctic talon]

Getting caught just == horrific death

[rose thorn]

when you start the game you get 3 barrels

anywhere as long as its red distance from any model at the start of the game

also they get more actions for being irrated

honeslty is they had anything at all they could be cheesed really hard

but theres litearlly nothing

[arctic talon]

Ngl

Idk why people are so stuck on power armor training being a thing

When it didn’t exist in 1 and 2

And only existed in 3 bcs of balancing issues

[rose thorn]

fallout 1 it was literally avaliable in one location

[arctic talon]

You can get it pretty early in fallout 2

And the game is still balancedish

[rose thorn]

i havent played 2 yet tbh

[arctic talon]

There’s an early quest where you’re in an enclave base

And you can steal armor

[rose thorn]

also people only wanted training back because fallut 4

[arctic talon]

Bcs it’s unbalanced as hell

[plush mason]

frankly im glad there was no power armor training in 76

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[rose thorn]

lore wise, made sense

[arctic talon]

FO4 you get power armor like

15 minutes in

[rose thorn]

balance wise

whyyy

[arctic talon]

Which I hope doesn’t happen in 5

If we ever get 5

[rose thorn]

its pretty fun, in 76 alot of perks dont work wuith power amor so theres a good balance

i have a vats pistol build so i havent been botheirng with power armor

[arctic talon]

I like the way 76 did T-60

[plush mason]

sure. just got to wait till after ES6 and starfield. assuming Todd doesnt want to sell ether one or worse yet both of them like 6 different times lol

[rose thorn]

honestly 76 is way better then i was expecting

[arctic talon]

After tons of fixes yeah

[rose thorn]

i bought it a while ago and only now started playing

[arctic talon]

It’s nice now

[plush mason]

yeah its nice how

[arctic talon]

Was it it ever explained in fo4

How the brotherhood

[rose thorn]

my account was bugged so my 76 account literally was in a phantom realm

[arctic talon]

Got so much T60 power armor

[earnest snow]

Idt so. Just kinda

[rose thorn]

but i made a bethesda account that used my steam email and somehow that fixed it

[earnest snow]

Well given to them cus bos

[arctic talon]

Lol

T-60 in fo4 is weird

Since T-51 is still the “most advanced power armor”

Except T-60 is better

In game lul

[plush mason]

iirc the brotherhood use to be the US army so they still have a lot of the old stuff and the codes to get in places

[arctic talon]

Yeah

[rose thorn]

chad civilian power armor vs virgin BOS power armor

[earnest snow]

They used to be and do. More so idk where the hell they raided to get so much power armor

[rose thorn]

excivator power armor my beloved

[arctic talon]

The Enclave just wants to check on your water supply

[rose thorn]

AAAAAA IW ANT THE REPONDERS POWER ARMOR SO BADDDDD

I FUCING LOVE THE REPOSNDERS they make sense

and have a reason to exist

[arctic talon]

pay

money

[rose thorn]

• followers of the apocolypse lover

im farmign atoms and gonna wait 3 years for it to return

[plush mason]

i was about to say, i havent heard of the CHOTA in a long time lol

[rose thorn]

lMAo

[arctic talon]

the biggest shame of the Followers of the apocolypse in NV

is that they didn't get their ending

in the game

[rose thorn]

okay im not gnna send a link tot his art because its good

[plush mason]

Fallen earth is back btw lol

[rose thorn]

but god this is kinda dumb

if it sends this year

like, awesome

but

[earnest snow]

Fo3 raven rock gets blown up. Ig the airforce base would make sense if it too didn't blown up. So I'm wondering where the bos got the power armor seeing as it was a valuable asset to the US military. And it would be in secure hands or possibly out in the wastes in need of heavy repairs. Or if you're lucky enough somehow not damaged.

[plush mason]

Fallout: attack of the weebs

[earnest snow]

Maxson really did a magical important npc moment and did a ritual to summon power armor

[rose thorn]

"I studied the blade of the first repsonder""

"then why do you have a fucking stabbing stick at the end of it"

[arctic talon]

the 3000 T60 power armor sets of the bortherhood

[earnest snow]

They know their console commands

[arctic talon]

lol

[earnest snow]

Or hit a nice jackpot that we don't know about

[rose thorn]

wasnt therer lore that they stole a facility that made power armor

[arctic talon]

but it makes sense that T-60 is some sort of weird stopgap

between T-45 and T-60

[rose thorn]

or sometihing

[arctic talon]

Then why not make T-51 power armor

its not like the brotherhood lacks the ability to use and maintain it

[rose thorn]

idk

[arctic talon]

they built a giant fucking blimp ship

[rose thorn]

'its too resource expensive"

[arctic talon]

ig

[rose thorn]

pls you have an airship

made of metal

[earnest snow]

I hit the airship with a mortar it can't be that great

[arctic talon]

this shit is goofy

[rose thorn]

II HATE IT I HATE IT I HATE

[arctic talon]

very cool

but goofy

[rose thorn]

ITS SO DUMBB

[plush mason]

thats basically the actual lore reason lol. they have codes to all the old military bases and arsenals left over from before the fall

[rose thorn]

idk whats btter

that or

the enclave tank base

[arctic talon]

the enclave tank base is less stupid

imo

[arctic talon]

only marginally

[earnest snow]

Enclave tank base got me acting up

[plush mason]

literally from 40k

[rose thorn]

BRICK

[arctic talon]

literally a baby orniadtus

[plush mason]

^

[earnest snow]

Also. I never side with the bos as hitting the prydwyn with a mortar got me acting up

[rose thorn]

the worst part is taht the satalite is attacked

attached

it must be so fucking heavy

[earnest snow]

It is. I just wanna know where specifically so I can see how picked clean it is because they're like hyenas when it comes to tech

[plush mason]

lol same

[arctic talon]

ngl I wonder why bethesda didn't have the mysterious stranger copy the pc's gender still

was neat

in F01 and 2

[earnest snow]

Bet that brick base does wheelies real good

[arctic talon]

its aerodynamic

[earnest snow]

Drifts too

[plush mason]

mofos be like the blood ravens when they find a lost military bunker

[earnest snow]

^

Curious if Bethesda will have the guts to say the bos ending was Canon and they made the commonwealth terrible to live in or failed and got blown up by some funny settlers and metal tube at a fort

[arctic talon]

10,000 nukes of Liberty prime

[arctic talon]

BOS ending is canon

according to macready

bcs he says the water is drinkable

in the wasteland

but it still sucks

[plush mason]

in F:NV they replaced that by adding lady luck

[earnest snow]

No I mean for fo4

[arctic talon]

Oh

[plush mason]

she is just the wanderer but in a playboy outfit lol

[arctic talon]

the brotherhood not telling us to bang rocks together

is the most dissapointing part of4

[earnest snow]

Ik fo3 Canon. I simply long for bethesda to make the bos interesting again instead of a part of a list to check through

[arctic talon]

too bad

you will take your semi generic somewhat authoritarian faction

with vaugely facist overtones

[earnest snow]

Or just make up another faction

That's interesting

[arctic talon]

too bad

[earnest snow]

Give me enclave but they're nice and it's really awkward so they get bullied or raiders but they snell good due to prioritizing hygiene over essentials so they died out

Idk something. But nah Bethesda be like

Heeheehooahoo

[arctic talon]

Just make the brotherhood assholes again

It was a fun part of them

In 1 and 2

And NV

[rose thorn]

pls dont make them genocidle ho

tho

i hated them so much in 4

[arctic talon]

They’re just huge assholes in 1 and 2 tbh

They literally send you to die in 1

In 2 they’re just holier then thou assholes who can’t really fight back against the enclave properly

In 3 they’re actually nice for a change

In NV they’re just isolationist and that specific group hates the ncr and everyone else

[earnest snow]

Idk how the rest of the west coast is doing but if the Mojave chapter is anything to go on the bos may die out in the west coast. It's likely if things don't change for them.

Whereas on the east coast a pleb blew up the prydwyn with a mortar

[arctic talon]

The west coast is allied with the ncr

The actual west coast chapter

The Mojave chapter uh

Yeah they aren’t doing great tho lmao

[earnest snow]

Which is the Canon ending and I don't care who else says. A settler blew up the prydwyn

With a metal tube and some love

And yeah the one in f:nv really wanted to show how bad the isolated ideas can get.

[green loom]

I just shoot everyone

[arctic talon]

Lol

Ironically the east coast brotherhood would hate the west coast one

Bcs the west coast brotherhood have “gone native”

But I’m gona be honest living in a bunker would probably suck

Especially when the area around said bunker is pretty much well developed and nice to live in

[astral whale]

You mean the thing based off of an actual vehicle used to launch the space shuttle?

[astral whale]

The fallout Game I want is a game set entirely in Legion Territory but in the style of a Greek epic.

Chariots, mad max shit, the works.
A clash between new and old world stuff.

[pale onyx]

Hey guys so since the emperor is more awakened now cus of the the warp energies going haywire since the great rift, are we gonna start seeing more emperor miracles like his warp daemons like the saints? Legion of the damned? Etc

[green loom]

There's already been more weird phenomena happening

Guilliman being saved, lots of random superpowered saints, SoBs getting freakier with their faith stuff, more frequent psykers

[celest dome]

Natural Ogryn Psykers

[green loom]

Oh right and a custodes' body being pupetteered on the brink of death supposedly by emps

[pale onyx]

Oh shit when did that happen

[rose thorn]

OH YEAH FACTION NEUTRAL T-45 IS GONNA DROP SOON, I’m super excited I wanna print some of those cool as fuck concept art of institute power armor

All factions that are allowed to use power armor will be allowed to use them

[green loom]

What sort of defense batteries would be a fortress monastery have?

Those big plasma ones you see in the SM2 trailer?

[storm jungle]

basically anything and everything depending on their budget

[green loom]

Ok i'm drafting plans for mine rn

[storm jungle]

Anti-air/machine gun/plasma batteries of any kind

orbital shields

etc

[green loom]

It's barely legible but I've got a rough idea of what I want

[storm jungle]

like legit just think of any defensive measure

and of their "budget"

and put it in there

AND

id suggest looking at the Fang's lexicanum page

it has a good breakdown of a detailed fortress monastery

[green loom]

I sea

[gloomy citrus]

I never understood the concept of fortress monasteries. Except that they were space fortresses.

[green loom]

I think I did when I originally planned it years ago

[green loom]

It can be anything, it's just "Space marine HQ"

Fleet based gamers use Battle barges as Monasteries

Chapters with homeworlds usually have a crazy well defended megafortress to protect their goodies

[gloomy citrus]

It's probably more dangerous then having a chapter homeworld.

[storm jungle]

its uh

kind of in the name

is a monastery which is a fortress

[gloomy citrus]

I mean, if it gets blasted, the chapter is done for.

[storm jungle]

Its not

its literally all down to the geneseed being preserved

thats the soul of the chapter, not a building

[green loom]

Yeah you'll have vaults all over the place, battle barges

[gloomy citrus]

So, if a monastery gets destroyed, no more marines untill a new batch arrives.

[green loom]

Nah there's facilities on Barges and other installations for that

[storm jungle]

^

its pretty simple

[green loom]

Like if it's so bad that the Monastery is getting wiped out, chances are there's not much left of the chapter

[storm jungle]

Yeah like during the tyranid attack on Baal

I think its Dante who sends their geneseed away on a single ship

JUST INCASE they all get slaughtered

[green loom]

Yeah with Corbulo I think?

[storm jungle]

Yep

[green loom]

Does he ever come back

[gloomy citrus]

Wouldn't it be wiser so scatter the gene-seed on smaller ships?

So that it doesn't get destroyed in one go?

[green loom]

It isn't all stored there

All marines have progenoid glands for one

[gloomy citrus]

But you can only utilize them once the said marines die.

[green loom]

And iirc there's usually some kept hidden away

Just in case

And ships also carry them

Like the plot of Space Hulk Deathwing is finding an old DA ship with geneseed

Also it's not bad to have a super built up defensible fortress you can fall back to and recoup in

[arctic talon]

they can be removed surgically if needed

its often done before super high risk missions where everyone is expected to die

[gloomy citrus]

Basically any Flesh Tearer mission.

[storm jungle]

This is a very niche situation and it was literally like days before the tyranids entered the system

[gloomy citrus]

Just how are the Blood Angels not extinct yet?

Aside from Dante, who just can't fucking die.

[storm jungle]

Because... they make new marines?

[gloomy citrus]

"They're just Ultramarines in red armor."

• Gabriel Seth.

[storm jungle]

I mean not really

that entire quote is suppose to be exaggerated and biased

[green loom]

And Seth also turns around on the,

And it was specifically about the Greyshields

That Bobby gave the BA to recoup losses

Because you jnow

Around 80% of all Blood Angels died

Including half a dozen full chapters

[green loom]

They were near extinction 3 times in Dante's life time

Not counting Baal I think

I think the 2nd time it happened he became Chapter Master

[gloomy citrus]

I guess that's what happens when you inherit PTSD, and start to see bald men everywhere (you just slaughtered an Imperial Guard regiment).

[green loom]

Anyway

So I've got these two big garden buildings right

Would it be stupid to have two big orbital guns on top of them

[bold veldt]

are they strong buildings?

[green loom]

Ofc

[bold veldt]

then sure

wouldnt want those buildings to come crashing down

[green loom]

They're partially in the ground and built into some of the inner walls

[gloomy citrus]

What would the Astartes need a garden for?

[bold veldt]

prayers

?

[gloomy citrus]

Only Black Templars pray.

[bold veldt]

some astartes still have a lil humanity

some might want a Lilac

[gloomy citrus]

Name one chapter not coming from Vulkan's or Leman's gene-seed that does.

[bold veldt]

Mortificators?

really have no idea

im not versed in chapters

[gloomy citrus]

Exactly.

[bold veldt]

also can we call "drinking till even your astartes liver gives out" a humanity trait?

[green loom]

Blood Angels quirk

[bold veldt]

i dont think thats a real humanity trait

[gloomy citrus]

They went to war with the Grey Knights for the civillians.

[green loom]

My guys enjoy gardening and arts

[bold veldt]

wasnt it also one of their planets or nah

[green loom]

The gardening bit is almost exclusively to bash in Rose motifs on my marines

But also "Overgrown castle" is a cool looking trope

[bold veldt]

most calm blood angels

they believe the flowers to be horus?

[gloomy citrus]

Overgrown would fit nicely for Dark Angels, or their successors. Maybe to remind them about Lion's homeworld.

[gloomy citrus]

When you're in the Death Company, everyone and everything is Horus.

[bold veldt]

The Rock really does sound quite overgrown doesnt it?

[bold veldt]

even horus himself some say?

[green loom]

I don't like the unforgiven as a thing, so I rather eat the vampirism and built in PTSD

[bold veldt]

flesh eaters moment

[gloomy citrus]

Tearers, not eaters.

[bold veldt]

same difference

[gloomy citrus]

[green loom]

Both do it

[gloomy citrus]

Tearing and eating are two different things.

[green loom]

So it doesn't really mater

[bold veldt]

the Flesh Tearers, Flesh Eaters, and Blood Drinkers just have a problem man

[crimson kayak]

i mean... fortress monasteries are on the chapter homeworlds?

[bold veldt]

like i said, same difference

[gloomy citrus]

Sucks to be a Blood Angel.

[bold veldt]

nobody ever talks about the Iron Hands...

[minor ingot]

Nah some others do

[gloomy citrus]

They don't talk to anyone.

[minor ingot]

There's even an ultramarines based one that does

[bold veldt]

nah cause the Iron Hands became irrelevant on Istvaan 3 when they all almost died

[gloomy citrus]

5, not 3.

[bold veldt]

zero screentime

[gloomy citrus]

3 is where the traitors purged their loyalists.

[bold veldt]

woopsie

same system

close enough

[gloomy citrus]

Yes.

[bold veldt]

im only just reading up on it

wait wasnt it istvaan 4 tho?

[minor ingot]

No

[bold veldt]

aight

[minor ingot]

Its 3 then 5

[gloomy citrus]

Both cases were pretty bad.

For the loyalists.

[crimson kayak]

only cool bits from the iron hands i ever heard of is the guy able to rotate all of his body parts 360 degrees, some iron hands trying to build a Ferrus animatronic and the Helfathers in general with the whole Keys of Hel thing

[minor ingot]

Biggest L's of all time

[bold veldt]

i do have Galaxy in Flames with me, i should probably continue reading it

[gloomy citrus]

Iron Hands ended up in the corner after Ferrus and like 90% of their Legion died on Isstvan V.

[bold veldt]

i read a short about some Iron Hands fighting Leviathan or Kraken borders on their ship while they tried to also protect some Zenos they were studying, ALONG with the small supply of geneseed they had left on the ship

AFTER a terrible warp exit

i have an idea that the zenos were the megarachnid from Murder, but what do i know

[minor ingot]

If the nids nom the megarachnid it's gonna be a bad day for everyone lmao

[crimson kayak]

im still hoping for a ferrus comeback as a terminator style robot.

[gloomy citrus]

That's gonna happen, but for Perty.

Ferrus is dead.

If he returns, he'll probably return himself to being dead after seeing what has become of his sons.

[crimson kayak]

oh i know, but i mean, wouldn't be the first Iron Hand to come back to life after what's supposed to be sure death

[gloomy citrus]

Fulgrim decapitated him.

With a flaming sword.

Or was it his penis sword?

[green loom]

The laer blade

[gloomy citrus]

Yeah.

Well...

Ferrus ain't coming back.

[crimson kayak]

Telarrch had 3/4 of his head blasted away by melta and had the entirety of his flesh substitued with augmentics post resurrection

like, Iron Hands Helfathers are basically robots

[gloomy citrus]

Yeah, maybe Ferrus chooses not to return.

Because it would only cause his sons to become exactly like the Mechanicus.

With the toasters and shit.

[crimson kayak]

now that i think about it, Stormcast Eternals are basically just Iron Hands Revenants

[gloomy citrus]

Ferrus hated what the Iron Hands were doing to their bodies.

[crimson kayak]

oh i know that, it could be fun through, same as how Cawl Inferior said to Guilliman "the man who sat on the throne is not the god that will get up from it" when speaking of the emperor

[gloomy citrus]

Another irony in the Warhammer galaxy.

Heh. Irony.

[crimson kayak]

probably resurrecting someone from literally just a skull and a hand would probably make it a bit desensitized from what his old world views were

especially after you know, you were the one to strictly prohibit them to use it

Iron Hands resurrecting hundreds of marines and squabbling with the Salamanders right after he dies

[crisp heath]

Our fire team could kill space marines easily.

[grave sparrow]

So, I'm a big 2nd hand lore guy, but is Cheogorath one of the few non-shitty gods? I haven't looked into it a lot, but generally he seems like a not complete jackass

[bold veldt]

i think the better question is how many and what chapter

[crisp heath]

1, could be damn near any chapter including grey knights

[bold veldt]

i feel like the majority of chapters wouldnt even lose one space marine

[green loom]

He seems less good/evil, more just chaotic

[crisp heath]

Considering our vet has plasma gun and power sword, our zealot can have a bolt gun and thunder hammer, the ogryn can be a bull gryn and we have a psyker, it’s low difficulty for a four man, gets even easier if you just run gets

[green loom]

And notice

[grave sparrow]

Yeah, but from the snippets I got, he is like a stalwart defender of the Eldar

[green loom]

None of us have personal shields

[green loom]

He is a stalwart defender of his followers more like

[grave sparrow]

Don't the Harlequins even go to help the drukari though?

[green loom]

Harlequins do whatever the play demands
Which could be literally anything

[grave sparrow]

ah fair, I'll need to look more into them before I start making bad assumptions lol

[green loom]

Yeah once they become harlequins they're shown their entire lives until their deaths iirc

And they literally get the power of plot

[crisp heath]

I don’t think we need them, we can kill an sm faster than he can kill all of us

[green loom]

Provided he doesn't kill most of us in 3 shots before we even know where he is

[reef kite]

So, is Hallowette a rogue trader?

[green loom]

Is that the premium currency lady

If yes then no, the Rogue Trader would be Brahms(the old lady in the intro)

[reef kite]

ah

[storm jungle]

Isnt that the uh

mfer from Elder Scrolls?

[arctic talon]

They’re talking about the funny clown god

I’d assume

[storm jungle]

thats Cegorach

[grave sparrow]

Oh damn he right, Cegorach vs Sheogorath lol

[storm jungle]

Lmao god im glad im not alone

its literally the same name

[arctic talon]

Lol

[grave sparrow]

Well slap my knee and call me a silly goose

[arctic talon]

It’s close

Tbh

[storm jungle]

tho the personalities actually match

yeah exactly lmao

But yeah uh Cegorach is basically one of the few surviving eldar gods (theres like fucking 3) and he mostly looks after his own warriors the Harlequins

When they die their souls go to him minus the Solitaires

[arctic talon]

He gambles for those ones

Iirc

[storm jungle]

who are super elite harlequins that play the role of Slaanesh in theatre-works

Nah its only Solis

basically when they die theres a 50/50 chance

he'll either manage to rescue them or they'll be eaten by slaanesh

its a risk they willingly take to fufill his will more or less

[grave sparrow]

makes you wonder what the height of eldar power was during the war in heaven lol

because those boys be stronk

[storm jungle]

It was a lot yeah lol

same with the necrons and orks

they are suppose to fill the "Elder race" trope most fiction has where they are a shell of their former selves now while the young races slowly expand

[grave sparrow]

What made the necrons more powerful? I thought they still use the same tech

except I guess the fuckin make a planet disappear map thing they have but don't use

[storm jungle]

Basically the fact that they were awake en masse

a lot of necron dynasties atm are entirely asleep or off doing their own shit

[storm jungle]

The dynasty that owes that actually has some braincells and are fully aware that weapon is dangerous as hell and guard it unless its an emergency

another necron dynasty whos nihilistic as shit wants to use it to blow up a lot of places so they are dealing with that incursion against their own kin as well

[grave sparrow]

makes me kinda curious to see how the necrons pop off in the lore. Right now it seems like the big bad is mainly the tyranids

[storm jungle]

Basically to put it bluntly

Necrons got teased as 9th edition's big bad

we got some semi good to okay lore alongside a few box sets and warzones.

Then they just kinda fizzled out and got turned into side-blurbs in the White Dwarf miniature magazine

and it kinda went nowhere lol

Most people like me are assuming the same is gonna happen to the Nids

[arctic talon]

It’s gona happen tbh

[storm jungle]

Yeah sadly

[arctic talon]

They might not even get warzone books

This time

[storm jungle]

😔

[arctic talon]

Actually

Maybe they will

And that’s how GW nickel and dimes detachments

Lul

[storm jungle]

They deffo will for the start of the year before it fizzles out yeah lol

its how you do business

[arctic talon]

Instead of really weird subfaction rules

[storm jungle]

then once 11th rolls around its gonna be orks or some shit

[arctic talon]

Eldar when

[storm jungle]

Never

[arctic talon]

[storm jungle]

for their own sake

[arctic talon]

Lol

Wonder what their new mini/revamped one is gona be

Seeing as they almost always get more then 1 mini

For good reason

[storm jungle]

Probably VERY later down the line for 10th

because the first few codexes are all loyalist trash

[arctic talon]

Necrons sobbing

SMH

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

Wonder if GW is gona release warzone books for armies that don’t have their codexes already

To give like

More detachments out

For people to mess around with

And by give I mean sell

[grave sparrow]

Is there models for House Van Saar? The hive gang that makes its gear with an STC?

[storm jungle]

Oh boy

[arctic talon]

Yes

[grave sparrow]

I dunno why I just didn't look it up in the first place lol

[storm jungle]

Here my son, feed

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Boxed-Games?N=3281529261+2251569852&Nr=AND(sku.siteId%3AGB_gw%2Cproduct.locale%3Aen_GB_gw)&Nrs=collection()%2Frecord[product.startDate+<%3D+1685935860000+and+product.endDate+>%3D+1685935860000]

[grave sparrow]

these look SICK

[arctic talon]

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99120599006_VanSaarGang01.jpg

[storm jungle]

They are one of the coolest gangs aesthetic wise

LOOK AT THE LIL SPIDER

[grave sparrow]

Maannn, imagine if necromunda hired gun was instead about these guys, and you could use the STC to make some sick gear

and they... completely unfucked the mechanics in that game

[arctic talon]

It leaks radiation

So

Ultra cancer incoming

[storm jungle]

its ok

[arctic talon]

And it also doesn’t really work

[storm jungle]

i got a health-pack

[arctic talon]

It just pukes up random stuff

[grave sparrow]

aw

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/mystery-box-gif-25004328

[grave sparrow]

how good is their tech anyway?

[arctic talon]

True

[arctic talon]

Better then baseline imperium tech

Worse then the most advanced stuff the admech has

It’s really well made

And reliable

However it’s also super saturated with radiation

[summer rover]

that doesn't even look like 40k, that looks like they stole it off infinity.

[arctic talon]

And kind of not ergonomic

[storm jungle]

Spoilers

thats the point

not everything has to look like a stupid gothic junkyard explosion

[grave sparrow]

they look like halo weapons that have been on a tren cycle for a year lol

[storm jungle]

[arctic talon]

They’ve had that asthetic since 1995

[storm jungle]

^

also like

40k doesnt really have a "look" when you ignore the Imperium

You dropped this homie

[summer rover]

now, they were the weaid armored skinsuit guys.

[storm jungle]

Eh kinda?

[grave sparrow]

I heard you needed some more gun for your gun lol

did the STC go full scitzo when it made that one or something

[summer rover]

actually what would be a resonable combiweapon for the rejects? needlers are right out because those are high-end stuff....maybe we can pair a stubber with a melta? get the dakka with a nice panic button...

[odd palm]

It simply min/max’d dps with that combi pistol

[arctic talon]

Counterpoint

[storm jungle]

they arent high end

any hive ganger can get a needler

[arctic talon]

Combi flamer

[storm jungle]

That too

[arctic talon]

Would be really reasonable

[summer rover]

in necromunda, they can. necromunda is not reasonable.

[storm jungle]

Again no?

needlers have been around even without necromunda

[grave sparrow]

See now that, that looks like a dope utility mining suit from the dark age

instead of terminator armor

[summer rover]

needlers are super rare outside of necromunda, and are eitehr sniper rifles or high-level officer stuff.

[storm jungle]

They really arent

no gun in 40k is really rare unless we are talking volkite, grav-guns and shit

[summer rover]

it looks like yet another babay carrier suit to me.

[grave sparrow]

Dread knight looks so much worse than that

[storm jungle]

^

also the guy piloting is actually armored

mostly since this is an actual properly done exo-suit

[summer rover]

they need to stop doing it regardless.

[grave sparrow]

But it's not even a baby carrier

like this looks silly

[summer rover]

his head and for some reason tummy are too exposed. and of course it's a baby carrier, it's got the pilot dangling on the front of the mech like a baby.

why do they keep doing it.

[arctic talon]

It looks cool in art

Is the reasoning lul

[storm jungle]

because it looks cool

[arctic talon]

The minis always look

Uh

Less cool

[summer rover]

it has never looked cool

[arctic talon]

Unfortunately people like them

So

[storm jungle]

^

[arctic talon]

They sell

[arctic talon]

That’s why GW keeps puking them up

[summer rover]

the scalpers have screwed us once again.

[arctic talon]

How so lol

[grave sparrow]

I got 5 bucks on Ripley beating a dread knight

[arctic talon]

They don’t go out of stock like scalper boxes

Just saying

Scalpers only target the big boxes

Bcs those sell for way more

[storm jungle]

We must upgrade

[summer rover]

scalpers love to clean up on the first wave of figures, reselling the minis before their stats get dumpstered to those clowns who panic.

[arctic talon]

That’s

Literally false

99% of the time

For non box sets

[grave sparrow]

what is this

[storm jungle]

basically

[arctic talon]

Loader sentinel

[storm jungle]

GW watched Aliens

and was like

[arctic talon]

It’s

[storm jungle]

"lets make it dumber"

[arctic talon]

Literally one of the silliest minis ever made

Also it’s forgeworld

[grave sparrow]

Good lord how horrifying

[arctic talon]

💀