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Hey guys russthewolfhowler2947 here and I'm about to explain how a single space wolf can take on the whole of the Tyrannic wars
You mean Zerokewl ?
i actually felt some of my brain cells die reading that. how many did you lose typing it?
Good point, mayhaps I'll take the whole engineered civil war thing they have going on
You sure are hopeful for thinking I had some before writing it
fair
Like, my favorite chapter has been unironically the alpha legion, my brain already self destructed
oh yeah it's long
I think it’s funny how the alpha legion while doing the I am Alpharius
Also hates doing it
Because it gets confusing as fuck
Because everyone says they’re Alpharius
My friend 1 is not in the discord and 2 are not the same level of obsessed as zerokewl
The enemy can't know what you are doing if you don't know either
Yea I like when John grammaticus tells them to shut up
And they're like how can you tell we're not all alpharius
and he goes you all look different
ok good
dont let them join
Yeah or ill kill them
Tbh the legionaries in one of the book
Also make fun of a guy
Who says He is Alpharius
Please do not murder the only person who will likely ever play the table top with me

Lol
Haven's thank
well i hope you have a counter to a SW army lol
Playing against space wolfs is just making sure you can screen properly
They don’t have any tricks like blood angels to get around it
I plan on having a necron army
Maybe ill have csm at some point but idk
I was thinking of making a warp ghosts csm kill team
Sadly can't think of any conversion or what to show the "futuristic" look they should have
Try using primaris bits
If you have them
Since they have “cleaner” guns
Or more futuristic looking ones
Id prolly make a mixed warband or a plague marine kill team
I mean he was pretty old
I thought he had already retired ngl
But he’s old, it’s good to retire instead of working yourself to death
Doesnt seem very only in death does duty end of him but i digress
||I though he was already dead||
💀
He did some primaris stuff iirc
Damn I had no idea
His last big contribution miniwise(that we know about) were the bladeguard veterans and the new primaris lt.
Yeah hes not been as active anymore hence why i wasnt that surprised he chose to retire as it is.
a good image of the darktide discord
Whats this even supposed to represent?
She's fatter
Damn it
I made something pretty 
i really like that
Could someone please provide an explanation of the Penitent Crusade?
"you all fucked up but we cant afford to just kill you all so go into exile and kill shit for a while and we will forgive you"
thats the gist of them
its basically a way to punish space marines or even whole chapters of them without just executing them
Die on your sword
what sorts of power armor exist than unmodified humans can wear? need it for a Dark Heresy game I plan on running
some specific criteria:
1: provides some warp resistance. This'd be used against a power psyker
2: a radical ordo malleus inquisitor would have access to it
3 (not required); would like it to be able to believably resist the vaccuum of space for a moment
they have a lot actually
a radical ordo malleus inquisitor could easily get power armor with some "questionable" tech in it to resist the warp
so long as they are in good standing with something like the xenorites of the admech
for some further context, this inquisitor is specifically assigned to watch over a dangerous psyker who's been assigned to be rogue trader because he's too valuable to kill but too dangerous to keep around. This inquisitor would likely have at least 1 set of power armor specifically requisitioned to counter said psyker if shit hits the fan
and im wondering what sorts of armor would fit that roll
idk if they have any actual classification for power armors like that. i think its just a custom made kind of thing
I mean, they can inscribe runes and have seals on it
Like you can make it believable
like an inquisitor with enough pull can have a full on suit of terminator armor made for them
what would be a good base to work off then?
isn't terminator armor meant for astartes
Typically space marine power armour is sealed off but again no one is gonna bat an eye to inquisitors having termie armour either
yes but there is a Lady inquisitor that has a suit she wears lol
yes
how would that work? if its almost too heavy for fucken astartes
^
so it'd fucking suck but a human could technically wear it
Yeah
oh ok
Space Marines Black Carapace make it seem they can move around naturally and quick
Normal humans dont have that so it looks like they’re just moving normal armour
ok. that spear looks like an eldar spear
so she is a psyker too?
i loved this guy's armor
Thing is there probably human sized termie armour
Dont know why they put her in a massive one
because cool factor and it is very in character for her to use something like that
ty man
damn this look dope ngl
yeah
her story is she hates the space marines and thinks they are all traitors
so she wants to kill them all and replace them
Is it possible for her to bring down a Grey Knight?
i, doubt it highly
I watched a video about the Grey Knights, and they seem incredibly powerful
even with a terminator suit she is still only human and no match for an actual space marine
okk
they are
a lot of their lore can be cringy sadly
even by 40k standards
Grey Knights are cool but they suffered a bit from, WE ARE THE BEST OF THE BEST writing for a bit in one of their codexes
and the whole "the guardsmen saw us! quick kill the whole regiment" stuff
they just end up going into the grimderp side of things a bit too often
still a cool chapter and the best looking space marines in 40k imo
glaives and wrist bolters and the best SM helmets ever made by GW? im all game
yerg stngink
Yeah they are incredibly powerful by astartes standards.
But it depends on the edition and writer.
They either mop the floor with everything or get shown up some regular simply to display how powerful ‘x’ character is
the later is sadly the fate of many of the smaller yet very cool factions of 40k
afaik there was a time when that was basically the whole reason the Avatar of Khaine existed
which part of me hopes is just a meme but i doubt it
Yeah Avatar’s, Greater Daemons….come to mind
yeah
I should probably read through their codex, instead of listening to summary vids on the GK. But for all their fortitude and psychic ability, I feel like they should be more effective at times than they are.
yeah but ofc that is how it works. the given faction is as strong or as weak as the current story's plot needs them to be
Also for Ordo Malleus, I would have expected them to have perhaps one or two more astartes chapters for their chamber militant or a much, much larger GK chapter
they can recruit other chapters to aid them where needed.
like you barely need to ask some chapters
like really, you can have an inquisitor call up the space wolves and mention going to kill daemons and half the chapter is already in their office wit bjorn already explaining why they MUST be part of it.
Oh yeah, no I get that Inquisitors can call up whoever they want. But I mean having a larger pool of exceptionally specialised, daemon killing marines would be pre handy
the Exorcists
theyre so good at daemon killing
they cant be seen by daemons
because you know
they exorcised a daemon out of themselves
tbf making those kinds of marines is even harder than making normal ones
like a lot lot harder
so while im sure they would love to have more its not something they can really do
They seems to adhere to the codex limit which seems odd considering they’re a secret chapter no one really knows save inquisitors, high lords and whoever else is deemed need to know.
I’m sure with enough will, they can find enough candidates and resources to increase their numbers.
As the need for GKs is more dire since the rift
GK are pretty cool but their models are very dated plus the baby carrier isn't doing them any favours
the baby carrier is great when it looks like their art
as a table top model
nope
same with paragon suits
They have a scout company that’s 3x bigger then normal
Scouts don’t count to the 1000 marine rule
is the 1k still in effect?
you would think Gilliman would have removed it given the current state of things
I dont think its a bad limit
It should be kept
But Guilliman should be spearheading developments and better response methods of Guards and Navy
Primarchs should take back the center stage and use the leverage of being the Omnissiahs Progeny to make shit again in forgeworlds
Like in some cases for 30k
Where they just improved or modified some tanks to be better or do shit specifically
That said his Battlefleet plans with sub battlegroups in fleets
The logisticarums
The fact that a battlegroup leader has the right to go
This is now a fortress world
When hunkering for a campaign
Like there’s interesting shit going on
That I feel like the community isnt fully utilising for their own little stories
Lol
Not really
It never really was
Yep, even the new excerpts from the 4 Tyrannic War show off some cool aspects of guilliman actually using tactics to fight while fully outnumbered and outmanouvered
Tbf did anyone ever get even just a slap on the wrist for not following the codex?
Astral claws ?
It wouldn't matter even if he did remove it
They got snapped for not paying the tithe
After looking into it
The codex was barely enforced
If you gave no reason for the imperium to kill you, they just didn't bother you even if you passed the limit
Though even with the limit
Yes, I wasn't sure if it would work because there are many things that led to this war
He withhold all tithes of the babab sector and then outright went for seccession after blowing up three different fleets trying to get their thite back
Took a lot to actually start that war lmao
Yeah, it's funny cause the imperium was actually chill about the whole "Tyrant of Babab" thing at the start
Also both the Space Wolves and Flesh Tearers have committed fuck tons of open treason
And they're still allowed to exist
I'm starting to think the imperium just has a policy of "is it working? Cool, deal with it when it stops/blows up in our face"
More or less yeah
Looking into it has allowed me to reee at people who spout stuff about the Black Templars loophole thing 
Black templars loophole thing is just cause no one at gw could decide their size and so went literally for "How many we need is how many there is"
Pretty much
I mean, honestly, I find it quite sad that the Imperium itself doesn't take an entire Space Marine chapter seriously as they try to cleanse an entire sector
But people tend to use it as an excuse to have like 5k marines for no reason despite it being a logistical night are and waste of resources 
I mean that's what they were made for, and they were doing a pretty good job too
I agree, but what can be done if they have limited resources? From what I understand, the Imperium doesn't provide any resources but asks the chapter to pay their taxes, which I find a bit odd
The tithe fuels fuels the imperial war machine, but also eats away at the stocks of worlds to keep them in check
Okk i see
Sad
Chapters have to pay a tithe of gene seed
So the imperium can make more gene seed + test it
Outside of that marines are tax exempt
Thank you, guys. Without you, I would still be getting confused lol
Marine recruitment worlds are also tax exempt(technically)
I figure that's case by case
Yeah
For the Chapter, some world pay part of their tithe by being a SM recruit world
Yeah
Also I'm gonna be drawing some designs for my regiment in a minute
Tbf, they were also the boss of the group of chapters tasked with maintaining order there
So technically they were doing their job until Huron bitched that the high lords didn't want him to have his crusade throughout the sector
And stopped paying any kind of thite
(and even then the war escalated only because the neighbor sector of Babab was suffering economically due to babab's isolation)
And well, three fleets "disappearing"
"Undead mace" like it was alive in the first place
I think it's from one of the Undead Skeleton kit
Yeah realized after reading "Hobglobin head cut to fit pad"
What depresses me a little is that this conflict could have been avoided
Nearly all conflict in 40k could have been avoided
That's what happens when half your characters doing important decisions are genetically enchanced manchildren
But the Badad War is years of loyalist vs loyalist combat, it's just absurd
Yes…
"the high lords of terra didn't want to give me the resources for a crusade outside of the area I'm supposed to work in, guess we are too good for them then"
Also yeah, it's actually the mantis warriors fault for starting the war itself, as they were the first to shoot other loyalist astartes
Now it's Guilliman who governs the High Lords, or is it more complicated?
Complicated
Yes
Everything
Putting out the fire
So the high lords more or less do their own thing
It's easier since the ones loyal to Guilliman killed the ones that weren't
Like, remember that guilliman started a secret Inquisitorial civil war for changing the calendar, anything regarding imperial politics is too complex to be understandable
Emperor
Guilliman
Custodes
High lords ?
More or less
isnt the captain-general a highlord?
I remember one being a high lord, can't remember if its a fixed positoon
He is but they aren't exactly beholden to the rest
also does anyone else find the captain-general title a little strange?
??
Not really
Due to title or like, the actual role he has?
due to the title itself
Eh not really
how is he a captain and a general at the same time
Semantics
He's not a captain and a general
Here in Italy many military roles use multiple rank together
He's a Captain General
Captain of the palace guard.
General of the Custodes.
ah
Monsi Lore deepen 
In france we say Maréchal
Captain General Czarniecki doesn't sound that cool.
Idk I think Captain General sounds pretty badass
Also we literally have the Brigadier Commander jacket in game
Followed closely by any flavour of "Castelllan" and most navy ranks
well that would just mean the commander of a brigade
Brigadier and brigadier commander are two different but equivalent ranks
Oh no wait
It's brigadier general in rl
yes
(also brig command is the most loose cannon cosmetic ever considering its literally stolen)
also commander is both a rank and just a job
More like, appropriated 
like for the US commander is a rank in the navy and just a job position in the army lol
i still don't get how a regular human is able to wear armor that even astartes find difficult
What armor is that
terminator armor
ah ok
More or less a vehicle
It’s just clunky
Especially compared to regular marine armor that's relatively dextrous
also, for if i hopefully do end up getting to run a dark heresy game- what would a detachment of grey knights look like in combat? i'm gonna be trying to keep most astartes relegated to the near mythical status they seem to have in some lore
esp higher end ones like GK
Incredibly fast
Lots of lightning effects flying around
and what's their main method of banishing/dealing with daemons?
Also they can straight up teleport
What size
Stabbing them, to death
Greater, lesser
Something inbetween
Anything below a greater they’re gona chop it up and use psychic powers
hm
would a powerful psyker realistically be able to summon a greater daemon if it tried
like if a psyker willingly gave into the warp
actually can i get some clarification on the "classes" of daemons
You have lesser daemons, greater daemons, and daemon princes/Primarchs
Khayon has a tarot card deck on which he has bound plenty of daemons to the cards within. Some of those are of greater status iirc which he can unleash on a whim
Greater daemons are things like keeper of secrets, bloodthirsters, great unclean ones, lord of change
specific scenario is that after the party defeats the main villain i have planned (that being a very powerful psyker) the psyker pulls a final fuck you and willingly lets himself be consumed by the warp, trying to pull a daemon into realspace to kill the acolytes
He’s also one of the strongest psykers in the setting
He doesn’t count
Well yes but we were asked if a strong psyker could do it 😄
That's not just out of nowhere though, he has the tarot prepared
which would quickly turn into Objective: Survive until help can arrive (the location in mind would likely have GK on speed-dial)
Set the daemon up before hand as whispering to him
^
Yes
Make it tempt him throughout the campaign then have him agree at the end
Desperate bid and all that
oh so, actually this is the same campaign i've talked in here about before, the major concept being that the party's working under both a psyker rogue trader (his bit being that he's too powerful and volatile to be kept around major imperium, but too useful to kill- therefore he was cut a deal where he gets to be a rogue trader so long as he has an inquisitor breathing down his neck) and the inquisitor watching that rogue trader. my intent is to hopefully have the psyker become a villain over the course of the campaign, descending into utter madness, his head filled with delusions of grandeur, likely by daemons
Him being a powerful psyker would likely help attract said daemons also
a good example of 'delusions of grandeur' in the pinnacle of his insanity (shortly before his death), he claims his goal is to "tear down the lighthouse and remake it in his own image"
tho that'd come to the surface like, at the point where the party's already either fighting or about to fight him
@upbeat dagger From top to bottom
Daemon Primarch (40k exclusive)
Named Greater Daemon
Daemon Prince
Named Herald
Greater Daemon
Herald
Beast Daemon
Lesser Daemon
Imp/Nurgling
ok what is the most likely greater daemon that a group of 3-5 acolytes could survive more than 10 seconds against
Khorne I'd say
aren't khorne daemons not really about manipulating tho
ah ok
Khorne daemons are blunt, not honourable, they'll readily deceive you
i commonly hear khorne daemons described as "they won't stab you in the back, they'll stab you in the face significantly harder"
Yeah they'll also stab you in the back though
and then laugh at you for turning your back
Wym my wholesome 100 morally gray entities of pure malignant evil aren't nice???
also i want to know if this chain of events seems reasonable
a bit of context for the scenario, this'd be towards the end of the first major arc, where the party's alr found out abt the psyker being completely insane
1st off, the inquisitor bombarding the psyker's ship so that the acolytes have a chance to not have their brain instantly splattered, and the psyker is forced to focus his power on keeping the ship together
Is there any mention of why the emperor on his throne has a cybernetic eye
when they go to eventually take out said psyker
Like who made the call to scoop it out
No
2: inquisitor arrives in some heavily modified termie armor so the acolytes can escape (along with everyone else on the psyker's ship).
Fight goes south fast, results in the inquisitor just barely escaping before the psyker blasts what remains of his ship into the warp unprotected, and the inquizi is kept alive by her armor long enough for rescue to be possible
oh who would an inquisitor answer to
like say an inquisitor fucks up who do they have to talk to
Usually inquisitors are part of larger groups and they can call meetings
If not though they don't answer to anyone
They're not bound to the adeptus terra, no other inquisitors really have authority over them either
So if they fuck up they either fix it or someone maybe eventually finds out and kills them
isn't there still somewhat of a hierarchy within inquisitors?
Other Inquisitor, in theory a more Senior one
Nope lmao
There's some that the inquisitors form themselves
Conclaves and warbands
Networks
Ordos
also aren't inquisitors technically unquestionable
There are informal hierarchy where they are brought up by other Inquisitor, so they have some sort of Hierearchy but it's not really hard coded
But it's very very very very very decentralized
You technically supercede everyone but if you're unlikeable it won't stop someone high up from throwing you out into space without objections
Except by other Inquisitor, Custodes, High Arbites...
It's more about managing to make yourself seem like you are unquestionable
Or
Being reasonable
Or
Reasonably powerful
If you can't order a hive dreg around you won't order any officials around etc.
It's both presentation and actual strength
Kind of
All Inquisitors are down to their own agendas, they arent a single coherent organisation, all of them mostly belong to a "conclave" where they hang out with other inquisitors whose ideals might match theirs or go fully lone wolf
These conclaves get to have Inquisitor Lords/Grandmasters who are sometimes in charge of entire sectors/systems in return.
But basically Inquisitors within their "workspace" will only bow to other Inqs who are much more gigachad than them
aka having a larger retinue, supplies, equipment, ships etc
My life for tor yvresse
In which branch does the Ordo Sepulturum belong?
None
those are sub-ordos
Okk ty
Malleus, Xenos and Hereticus are the top main 3
i assume the representative is the person on the senate?
Yep
the representative is the one that talks with the high lords on behalf of the entirety of the Inquisition
its a super important role and anyone can be picked for it
given the nature of their organization that has to be hell
The Inquisitorial Representative is a title held by one of the High Lords of Terra, who sits on the Senatorum Imperialis on behalf of the Inquisition. Nominated from amongst the Inquisitor Lords of the sectors that surround holy Terra, these individuals are often referred to as the Inquisitor Lord Terran.[1]
the selection progress is explained in detail here
also. what exactly is an inquisitor practical?
That I don't know since my friend made this and hes a big RPG nut 
probably something from Dark Heresy
What is a practical ?
so not all interrogators become inquisitors
By the way, in Darktide, do the prisoners work for the Ordo Hereticus or Malleus?
Hereticus
hereticus
Okk
And yeah its a very hard process
you gotta be cool enough to be approved by like 3-4 Inquisitors to become an Inquisitor
its why most interrogators are very cocky or hotheaded
ah
because we have taken the Hereticus Oath and are considered mostly an elite bunch
mix of henchmen and that 
The heretics are the ones who need to thank us for bringing them the emperors mercy
Zolla is an Interogattor or is it Rannick ?
Zola is an explicator
Rannick is the Interrogator
so hes being groomed to become an Inquisitor one day
I suppose Melk and Morrow are Throne Agent ?
he has the swag for it
The hard part with that is "it depends"
basically Inquisition retinue roles can be made up on the spot
mostly for RPG purposes for when you are playing with friends
like say I can dub Cacti the Lore Informator because he knows a lot of lore
what exactly do explicators do?
and everyone in the retinue will recognize him as such
Basically Lvl.1 interrogator
It's the rank
first steps to become one but still starting on it
i keep forgetting this whole side of 40k exists purely due to an rpg game lol
Yeah lmao
its why all those middle ranks are in the same category
as an Inquisitor you cna literally make up a rank for your agent on the spot, like i said above theres only a few pre-set ranks in there
but the Rejects once thye reach Level 30 are official agents of the throne, hence why you get a inquisitorial rosette necklace and such
The important tramp stamp
💀
in regards to the rpg game who would be the inquisitor? a player or is it more like the DM?
I bet the loose cannon vet tried to strangle somebody to death with their rossette over a game of regicide
the DM doesn't have to be the Inquisitor but they can play the Inquisitor or just make a character whos an Inq that is in charge of the party
again it largely depends on the story you are trying to tell
ngl i think the ogryn would end up trying to eat theirs
Definitely
can you have a rosette without beads?
no i mean irl
thats badass
Luv me Inqs
Just gotta get a tech preist some sacred oils
but yeah im pretty sure theres people selling it as merch too
I WANT
yup
found some on ebay
Good stuff

as stupid as they are as an organization they are still one of the best parts of 40k. and ofc they all look badass
We love em
Also alas yeah they suffer from the fact that most of their members are psychopaths or idiots
well this discord is full of 40k fans so there is that, plus its discord which is a form of social media which is always full of psychos and idiots
Do you have any names of righteous and non-psychopathic Inquisitors with a remarkable backstory? I would love to learn more
Greyfax
Ravenor is more normal id say
Im gonna read that
and ofc the OG. Obi Wan Sherlock lol
Eisenhorn, at the start ?
Ciaphas Cain series is a good Imperial Guard story too
An interesting other side of Commissars
do Eisenhorn and Drogan look kinda alike or am i just tripping?
Highly possible than one was inspired of the other
Drogan left Eisenhorn right
Interrogator's unpaid Intern
Its the massive ass forehead with the short hair
also the black outfit with gold linings
so i dont blame you 
they are both psykers and part of ordo xenos as well kek
lmao forgot about that one
ngl im glad darktide's deamonhosts dont look like this
not yet
Tbf that's a pretty specific kind of daemonhost
Oh I don't mean like, officially
But that one it's basically This close to just becoming a daemon/chaos spawn
Like, for example cherubael here, he's the most "standard" form of daemonhost you can find, obviously chaos ones are more mutated as they are not constantly chained
When you start resembling more a flesh blob with tentacles than a human the "host" part is basically gone by that point
so i want to say ive been playing in rogue trader game as a kill space marine librarian of the charcharadon chapter
is there any real lore i need to pay close attention to with them, or is it mostly standard space marine stuffs
the way they joined the party was through a warp peril sending them to macragg without most of their gear
since the party had recently landed there for supplies and repairs
But tl:Dr carcharadons are basically loyalist night lords with more chainsaws and brutality and less torture
ah ok
i just really iked tyberos' aestechic tbh
and the space sharks are just a faction i found fun to play in the war game so i transfered my cheif librarian into a playercharacter in that game
And are maori
oh near
Raven Guard and their dubious
space maori
all im gonna say is that under his armor hes covered in tats lol
Specific te paka
hes also a lightskin lel
bone white skin and black sclera eyes
thats the raven guard and successors (space sharks kinda) way
yup
first time he took off his helmet around the psyckers they begged him to put it back o cause of his eyes lol
cause TTS moxed with GE
*gw
Tbf could even just be local superstition or shit lol
i mean the commander of the kill marines is a fuckin blood angel lol
rogue trader with DW conversions
yea basically to keep em out of hot water the marines on the vessel are registered as solo kill marines and kill teams
this is TTS emperor my guy
who
for the rogue trader game we are usign amix of official and emperor with a TTS device lore
i forget dilara hates tts emperor lore more than me
I remember this one time I joined a roleplay with random empires, and one of them was following TTS Imperium lore, and had Emps in a cartoony mech suit
like nah
I... Don't remember tts ever mentioning rogue traders?
Its also been a fuckton of time since I last saw it
we also ran aground with orcs and demons so we needed the extra firepower
I hate more the way it affected the 40k fandom than the series itself
because it started off cringe before Alfa and Co. started putting actual effort into it
oh yeah we hate that, we dont hate the lore videos
Yeee the series itself is fine
we dont follow the goofy cringe shit
for the most part, there have been times its been said as jokes between crew members and stuff
Yeah I remember this first-hand when the whole alfa legion forum they had started becoming more and more "serious" and less cringy
like we are like the age of the orc seige on ultramar planets


it never was meant to be taken seriously, so it never was cringy
I came into the fandom from tts but ive outgrown it
and all this started cause i wanted to ask for help with making my spooce shark more lore abident
Lol
theres a lot of lore for them now
since theres like two authors writing for them
unheard of!
usually one person is in charge of a chapter
typically
mainly cause the dude jsut joined up with the vessel cause of the fact he got warp gated to ultramar by a warp peril
well he had protection
the protocol is clear
in the form of his armor
Adam you wanna hear something funny
which litterally burned up and forced him to requistion new armor from macrag
Macraiglist?
The Elder Scrolls fandom has its own equivalent of chaos/imperium apologists 
M'Cragge
what
you know the planet i mean
I saw people explaining why the big evil gods aren't actually evil, like how some people try to do with the big 4/imperium
It was funny
Daedra?
the planet capital of ultramar
the same demons that say they will sexually assault your corpse once they kill you?

Yes
To be fair
because their identity is tied to the thing they love
Yeah they were justifying Molag Bal and Dagon 
theyre werent bad to me
Like some Daedra are legit not that bad but Molag Bal is literally just khorne
Lol, and it's funny cause while bad, most daedra in fact are actually just very chill unless plot demands
And they obviously choose fucking Satan 1 and Satan 2
Yeah I was looking into a thread about the vigilants since I'm larping as one and it was like reading about 40k people complaining about the Inquisition
the daedra apologists were in the same thread
I wonder why people distrust them
look there are people who think Vriska was not bad
some people who think Catra was fine for committing mass genocide
George Carlin said
think of the most average person you know
half the world is dumber than that person
There's also ESO's dragon break wich was caused by menhures invasion if I remember right?
Now idk how evil Vigilants actually are but the drip is worth it and the ones in game seem nice so 
Oh no it was molag bal
Vigilants are good?
Yeah Batman isn't also a devout follower of the God of Mercy, Justice, Luck and Charity
Can't tell, people either say they just walk around clearing out problems or shout about them like they're the Spanish inquisition
Basically they act like the inquisition but only against daedra related stuff, wich also means vampires, werewolves and shit like that
From what I can tell it doesn't seem to be all encompasing since they don't go around lynching Dark Elves/Orcs
But yes quite the funny thread I found
That's cause they are more against literal daedra shit as they were founded post crisis
So you know, after the legions of hell got on earth
Literal in game dialogue
Basically a mix of the Inquisition and Brotherhood of Steel, except they hoard daedric stuff instead of tech
I c
wanna know i think could be neat to see in dark tide if we get another archetype
Tau bois
Aren't we like, on the other side of the galaxy from them
itd be neat tho
Plus veteran already covers the ranged focus archetype pretty neatly
- Xenos -> Not really found in the Penal System
- Ranged focused-> Veteran's theme
- Technology->No real way to make a Tech Priest work on it
- Not really enclined in melee combate
Why do people keep suggesting to add filthy xenos as player characters in darktide
We aren't even Ordo Xenos 
Well be happy that we ain't SM
If you dont wanna be a umie be an ogryn they arnt technically humans
....
Same can be said about the Psyker
Agreed they are abhumans
WOW
Racism?
In this discord?

Against fictional people its fine
And an healthy dose of Speciesm

Dilara its not racism. Im not insulting them for there exterior. Its specism
There lucky the emperor determined them useful and granted "rights" instead of purging them all
😩
You so done with me rn 
Idk how she tolerates our bullshit
Yeah but it has to also make sense lol
I'll give you a hint


1453
The Hun ?
So we can't speak of the World Eater, no loss here then

they where greek inspired?
ok thats what i thought
Iron Warriors are the greek inspired legion
literally a spartacus reference
if you SQUINT
they literally have Doris and Spartan Hoplons lol
Iron Warriors are school shooters inspired if you dont squint hard enouggh
still the best chaos legion
referring to World Eaters
granted that bar is very low lol
40k chaos legion, the best one is Word Bearers, 30k best chaos legion is Iron Warriors and Death Guard
im sorry but i cant take lorgar's bible thumpers seriously
and dont forget, Blood Angels are Italian Renaissance
and vampires
I just like the sheer mix of stuff for word bearers
cultists
marines
daemons
Wait what
Oh then yeah
a revival of culture
something something a master crafted veteran bolter of a blood angels is worth an entire hive spire
tbf that was also true of medieval knights. they where also big on arts like painting and poetry
thats DA
That too
also Samurai with the Ten Rings
they are humanity desired
as in thats what they strive to be is less of monsters or warriors
but also focused disciplined artists
which is like White Scars
who have a focus on their poetry
many of history's greatest warrior casts where also their culture's greatest artisans and innovators lol
Also because Italy during the Renaissance outside of arts and such was a shitshow of small kingdoms shitting on each other
They ate too many crayons
its why i always ask when people make their space marine chapter
"whats their culture like"
also if you watch some vampire films
Astorath literally looks like any main vampire dude
generic vampire long hair man
also the stupidly long collar
not just Italy, all of Europe was like that lol. ofc most of the kingdoms fighting where a lot larger
At that time Italy was at like, peak squabbling with itself for any reason, it was also the time where mercenary companies started popping up like crazy
yeah
I'm going to make my space knights gardeners and artists
bonsai lmao
Thatd be fun, would they be recruited from a agriworld?
agri world is no where close to real honest farming
I dont mean a giant farm world i mean one of the more modern farming worlds, could even be a feudal world. Agri world is just a general term
Nah their homeworld is definitely gonna be some sort of chivalric feudal/civilized world
there are no good agriworlds
Also pog
Are there human worlds in the galaxy that are similar to ours, with limited knowledge of space travel, yet affiliated with the Imperium?
Yes
Yes
The imperium just controls all space flight on and off those worlds
even heavier then usual
There's worlds that don't have any sort of advanced technology
There are worlds where humanity is tribal still
And when inhabitants of them leave or are recruited for service there's a 50/50 chance their minds will break from the tech
good cannon fodder
bonus servitors
Tons, lots of marine homeworlds in particular
Since Boltgun was recieved so well, do you think that another retro-styled Warhammer game could come to life? I got this idea of a game based on some old Metal Gear game where you play as a Raven Guard.
Maybe
How does the government of worlds similar to ours react when they see a flying church arriving from space lol
Okk
Or has heavy heavy influence from them
In super primative worlds the planetary govener isn't even a native
Yeah governors of less advanced planets are usually regular imperial nobility with access to space travel
Usually residing on space stations or their own fortresses on the world
Scary
The big thing is its usually disorientating for any normal people to see lol
Milky way is fucked up
I mean
the time when the astronomican went dark
there's a giant warp rift
really messed things up
down the middle
Yes lol
Killing billions of people ?
Probably more
humanity went dark
ships lost
billions of psykers tied to the astronomican screaming
Aka average day on twitter
It's a pain with the cooldown.
day? no more like average hour
thats not the isssue
Twitter is just a zoo with no keepers
That's quite an accurate description.
I don't use Twitter, and I don't intend to.
i dont use it but i have a lot of friends that do
Insane
Average high school description
Didnt know you went to school in America 
just more repressed feelings
We definetly are never gonna get a marine stealth game simply due to how absurd it sounds in realistic terms
If Corvus could do it, what's stopping his sons?
YOU DO NOT SEE TYBEROS
It's not the lore the problem lol
It's bringing the lore into the form of a videogame without looking like a meme for 90% of playtime
thing is, it was never really like sneaking like a spy or a cartoon spy thing
If it was a spy thing, Alpha Legion would be more fitting.
also corax designed quieter armour
But, I would love an officio assassinorum game
corax did so much bullshit to make sure they were stealthy enough
Thats be cool
Like, a tactical mix of hitman and old rainbow six/ghost recon titles
Sniper elite style vindicare
It would make DooM look kid-friendly if it included the Eversor.
Eversor is your moab equivalent lol
Though, it would kinda defeat the purpose of assassinatorum.
Doomguy does shit to daemons an eversor can barely due to a conference hall
Aren't Eversor assassins considered one man armies?
I mean kinda but not really
They can still die pretty easily under sustained fire
its why their death has a suicide-bomb feature
Their suspected fatality rate is pretty high too
I guess that it's especially true since they have a tactical mindset of a Flesh Tearer.
close enough
Or even a World Eater, yeah.
The point of the eversor is that at best you have a gore tornado and at worse a nuke goes off and takes everyone out with him
^
Also we now have the Adamus assassins that are literally the generic ninja guys
yeah they are oooold
should have been kept that way because they look lame as fuck
fucking TMNT Foot Ninja lookin' ass
They even have katana's that can cut through armor and shit without power fields or anything else
But during the coup d’état, when there were 100 Eversor assassins against the Imperial Fists, how is it that they didn’t explode ?
They did
literally all the imperial fists died
minus one
because plot armor
Imagine it like that one flower in DRG
where you shoot it and it causes a chain reaction

His sons could be picked up by sensors
Corvus couldn't
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Oh also yeah, Adamus assassins also use Autopistol size bolters
Isn’t it a powersword lol
Combi bolters I meant
They should make anime with big studios like Arcane or Demon Slayer. I’m sure it would be incredible
Space marine vs assassin

"Man these orcs are really accurate, i sure hope they don hit m-"
-Quote from an unknown Celestial Lion during the war for Armageddon
It's funny cause it's one of the times the inquisition has acted the shittiest they could, literally holding a grudge for so long they went and sent an assassin though warp storms and chaos blockades to kill the chapter master at the time the sector needed him the most lol
Definitely not there best moment
Also literally sent the assassin into the unknown just for the chance he was still alive after losing contact with the imperium
Thats legit the most unhinged Inquisition lore i had ever read
like WHY THE FUCK IS THIS SO IMPORTANT TO YOU
That order had to also
Go to Terra
Get approved
Read by a High Lord or two
Read by the Assassinorum Temple
G R I M D A R K
Axaxaxaxaxa
Maybe he pissed off the head of the assassinorun
Who am i kidding i cant justify all that
It's funny cause even in the book, it goes almost out of nowhere
It's literally boom, betrayal, decapitation, running, gets blasted, "Well, I guess you are an emperor Spear now"
Yeah i remember reading it its SO funny
it made me laugh out loud and completely ruined the tone the book was going for for me

Its like that scene in World War Z where the doctor fucking slips on the helicopter ramp and accidentally shoots himself and dies
literally out of nowhere
I'm just happy mentor legion got a small bit of love
yall seeing the new poll?
what is it
fav IG regiment
Gaurd regiments
yeah this is rigged

Wish the earth gaurd was listed but whatever 🙄
Choose multiple just to offset the Cringe Korps
OH ITS FROM HERE?
yes
What are the Earh Guards ?
the pratorians are an option so i want that lol
give me the pith helmet fatshark
Vostroyan one would be sweet too, with the bear fur hat
that was why i mentioned the poll lol
Did you just ask me who the earth gaurd is...... i wonder what planet there from
arent they called the terran guard?
But there isn't a regiment called such
Neither Earth Guard nor Gaurd
Like there are regiments from there
Like the Lucifer Black
I swear in either watcher of throne or vaults of terra they were called the earth gaurd
what a surprise krieg has most votes

