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#40k-lore-chat
minor ingot
terse flume
so like, instead of thinking like "if only the emperor got what he wanted" like if he did we'd all go into sex pods and birth slaneesh 2: this time it's fursonal
orchid lark
nope
minor ingot
Nobody gives arbites enough credit
orchid lark
Good
minor ingot
They are enormous
plush mason
also master of the astronomicon
i wonder what that job entales
orchid lark
Navigator Paternova is a none permanent post
winter vessel
and shouting
plush mason
and just yelling at the other high lords "we need more souls!"
terse flume
oh man here is a "gw never cared about scale" thing
a thousand people dying a day
in an empire of thousands of billions at least
is a fucking rounding error
arctic talon
Over quadrillions
plush mason
is a fucking rounding error
it really is
arctic talon
Terra has quadrillions alone
1000 people is nothing
also its a bit more then 1000 now
bcs the golden throne is breaking
but 2000-3000 is still nothing
plush mason
good
tropic olive
which High Lord has the most relaxing job?
orchid lark
psykers appear out in like 1 in 10 mill or something right?
orchid lark
which High Lord has the most relaxing job?
the custodes position
arctic talon
which High Lord has the most relaxing job?
Custodes position politically
hes never there
minor ingot
which High Lord has the most relaxing job?
The Sororitas feet inspector
plush mason
but 2000-3000 is still nothing
thats still a fucking rounding error. hell the adminastratum makes bigger rounding errors than that every few hours
arctic talon
yeah
orchid lark
The Sororitas feet inspector
on it boss
tropic olive
ok ty
terse flume
psykers are eyeball what 1/1000 people?
terse flume
eyeball, as in estimate
winter vessel
Then there's the Abbess Sanctorum, who promptly went "Fuck Y'all, im going on a crusade" and dipped from Terra
minor ingot
Also I'll get back to this sometime later
terse flume
nulls are one a planet, psykers are waaaaaay more common
minor ingot
I just had a 7 hour flight
orchid lark
blanks are like a 1 in 10 billion or something ridiculously mentioned
minor ingot
But I can write 10k word Bible pa-i mean treatise on why we need to give our spirit bomb energy to Jimmy space
orchid lark
strongest ends of the two are definitely 1 in some crazier number
plush mason
i wonder what happens to the souls of the psykers feed to the astranomicon/golden throne
minor ingot
blanks are like a 1 in 10 billion or something ridiculously mentioned
And then Dan Arnett makes his o c inquisitor have a whole harem of them
minor ingot
i wonder what happens to the souls of the psykers feed to the astranomicon/golde...
Two options
Either they are burned from existence to feed the emperor
Or they join the emperor
orchid lark
And then Dan Arnett makes his o c inquisitor have a whole harem of them
and has the psyker have a hard on for one of them
minor ingot
Honestly both fates in the scale of 40k are not that bad
plush mason
Either they are burned from existence to feed the emperor
thats the massively more likely option
minor ingot
Still not that bad of a fate
plush mason
true
orchid lark
they are waiting to be Stormcast obviously
plush mason
lol
minor ingot
we Stan the emperor and his tiny realm of chaos
plush mason
that one tiny golden spot in the sea of souls
minor ingot
and has the psyker have a hard on for one of them
Legit was listening to hereticus
On my flight
Come on dan
You're better than this
bronze trellis
My interpretation of the emperor is like the gnostic intrepretation of ‘God’… a being of the physical universe, utterly incapable of perceiving the divine. He sees things in very material ways. He is stronger, wiser, smarter, and capable of otherworldly feats, so humanity, in its comparably weaker state, is below him, and must be risen to his level. But in that sense, the emperor lacks humanity on the individual level. There isn’t really any growth or struggle. No weakness or doubt. He expected everyone to share his vision of humanity, and as the only supreme being of humanity, he had the only proper view in his eyes.
plush mason
the short story "the last church" very much showed him to be like that
crisp heath
Honestly I'm more curious as to how the sacrifice is actually carried out
Like is it a big aztec-type ordeal or do they just chuck them in a furnace like coal
orchid lark
Its like meeting santa claus in the mall
bronze trellis
There was a book excerpt that implies they are hooked to a machine
orchid lark
plush mason
probably just shoved in a tube and said tube just sucks their souls out like some demonic mailshoot lol
bronze trellis
One of the silent sisters had an Existential crises when she realizes that the throne is requiring more and more sacrifices… and the infrastructure is in place for much, much more
plush mason
and then their bodies are just made into corpsestartch
crisp heath
Honestly the sacrifice isn't even that grimdark, I could make it way more fucked up
bronze trellis
Well, the dark thing was that the sacrifices were black ship rejects… so psykers not stable or strong enough to be useful. Most started showing their powers early in their life… so children and teens
crisp heath
Right but I don't think it specifically has to be human psykers
It's totally reasonable to farm eldar like cattle and feed their babies to God
plush mason
Honestly the sacrifice isn't even that grimdark, I could make it way more fucked...
the sacrifice is literally nothing, in the same time those 2/3k psykers are vored by big e many billions die across the imperium
bronze trellis
Can’t farm eldar. Their reproductive system is stunted.
terse flume
when you stop being a sanctioned psyker the characters in darktide beleive you get sent for the baaaaad suuuuuuccccc
minor ingot
I volunteer to become the first professional Eldar breeder on terra
terse flume
your retirement package is a big old straw
minor ingot
your retirement package is a big old straw
Service is its own reward
orchid lark
I volunteer to become the first professional Eldar breeder on terra
Guilliman to the High Lords
minor ingot
Getting sucked off by the emperor isn't a bad way to go
orchid lark
terse flume
My interpretation of the emperor is like the gnostic intrepretation of ‘God’… a ...
broadly if he isn't human ie is literally divine, then humanity urgently needs one less god, cause like all the things he wanted to do he fucked up, the things he did wanna do were routinely awful - personally, socially, socio-politically. if he's above us he's the kind of above us who can eg make and betray the thunder warriors cause it's expedient, for example
if he doesn't have any growth or struggle as such then like, good lord did he fuck things up
bronze trellis
The eldar apparently have reproductive cycles sparingly… and apparently, genetic material is only exchanged piecemeal, requiring several ‘sessions’. Technically, an eldar child can be made from multiple fathers.
terse flume
his stated long term objective of an enlightened star child race to protect against chaos is presented as like, acheivable, but again there were at least two preceeding ultra powerful psyker races and they all got dumpstered
probably more than two
i don't think even post awakening humanity was supposed to be equal to the old ones eg
arctic talon
Frogs are cool
minor ingot
Erebus did everything wrong
terse flume
how do you know, probably some ozymandious guys who were the great champion of the frog people
arctic talon
Also I think it’s funny lord kroak from fantasy/AoS dumpsters every psyker in 40k
terse flume
two legs remaining in the desert kinda thing
arctic talon
The funny frog man
minor ingot
Because they didn't have sick battle nuns with battlefeet
terse flume
except with squid psychics instead of sand
arctic talon
Lol
crisp heath
Szarek is cooler than the emperor you can't change my mind
terse flume
sentience is presented as horribly cyclical in this universe, or at least that seems to be the necron uh, pretty broadly accurate perspective?
minor ingot
Lol
bronze trellis
broadly if he isn't human ie is literally divine, then humanity urgently needs o...
Oh yeah, The Emperor is all over the place. You can see the failings with his ‘sons’. Even if Chaos wasn’t involved, a civil war in the Imperium was bound to happen
minor ingot
Oh yeah, The Emperor is all over the place. You can see the failings with his ‘s...
Gonna come back in a week and lecitio divinitatus both of you
plush mason
I meme post, I don't even like feet
be careful, you may just summon the ghost of Vandire
arctic talon
Doge vandire
crisp heath
Anyway we all know that there's just some vast sentience in the warp who had humans, eldar, and orks play around for a few million years until the tyranids and necrons can really duke it out for the fate of the galaxy, which is to create a power vacuum the Tau can move into
terse flume
he fuckin constantly lies, hides things, betrays his sons like a lot, is extremely hypocritical in his personal behaviour and idealistic perspective
crisp heath
#JustGodlyThings
terse flume
you get this vauge sense of greater good but he ain't some tau egalitarian
plush mason
Doge vandire
there is no gifs of him, discord has both failed and disappointed me
minor ingot
he fuckin constantly lies, hides things, betrays his sons like a *lot*, is extre...
Remember he suffered from 20 people writing him for like 20 years
Some writers much better than others
terse flume
cause he's incompetent or malicious, and i personally like incompetent
bronze trellis
Also, the eldar actually had a folk hero probably equivalent to the emperor post War in Heaven. Like… the scale of that conflict alone was massive. The proto orks, the krorks, were one such example. The Beast is heavily implied to be an ork reverting to a krork, and it took an immortal primarch to take it down
terse flume
like u can't blame all the bad stuff on external forces, he's been trying and failing since the dawn of humanity
arctic talon
tbh he can be all of them depending on the day
sometimes he's doing something malicously
sometimes its incompetency
sometimes he actually is making the best decision
terse flume
from the point at which we crawled out of the ocean to the date they nailed him to his golden cross, chair i mean, he's been at this shit
i like incompetency better. malice seems really unworkable
but you could swing it
minor ingot
I mean humanity is already the wildcard species in the 40k universe with a special connection to chaos
Saying the emperor is incompetent because he can't fully control humanity is the same as calling all 4 chaos gods incompetent because they can't do it either
orchid lark
youre right, the chaos gods are incompetent
minor ingot
40k is about a constant battle no matter who you are
arctic talon
Tbh he sometimes is genuinely malicious imo
terse flume
the chaos gods are deffo incompetent and that's why they're cool. they're like, elemental forces of incompetence
arctic talon
but its usually towards his foes
terse flume
thunder warriors thing is fucked up
crisp heath
Cruelty? Malice? Why not nihilism incarnate? The emperor cannot be cruel or just. The emperor has no will at all. The emperor is like an asteroid set adrift by its own momentum. There is no desire. He cannot be cruel because he genuinely does not care. His "vision" is just the course that his birth has mindlessly set him upon.
crisp heath
When the emperor says there is no God, it is because the only being that can be called God is not actually a being at all.
orchid lark
Dude found out his uncle killed his dad and decided to be the world’s first lawyer
crisp heath
But even with all that said, he's still gay and in love with Malcador.
minor ingot
youre right, the chaos gods are incompetent
Well yes, but then GW puts them as the unstoppable juggernauts and literally has Tzeentch
The just as planned guy
GW just sucks at writing
orchid lark
Too many cooks
minor ingot
And you can't even trust them with their own lore lol
crisp heath
I do like that the one consistent trait about the emperor is that he has terrible thoughts on tax policy
terse flume
well, alright the emperor as an abstract elemental force above such petty concerns as the things he says and does: muuuuuch worse than the chaos gods, much more actively malignant?
orchid lark
But even with all that said, he's still gay and in love with Malcador.
If Malcador is gay for somebody its with Constantin, the emperors biggest stans combined
crisp heath
Like taxes come up in the first Horus Heresy book and I so desperately wanted the civil war to be over taxation
terse flume
like if an enslaver somehow gained human form
crisp heath
like if an enslaver somehow gained human form
Yes, that would be cool. I'd follow him.
Just a soulless parasite on materiality. That's my god!
terse flume
then we've kind of circled back to malicious, in the same way that although nurgle like doesn't necessiarly wake up wanting to do malice he can't do anything else
like, nurgle and the emperor are just following their base impulses
arctic talon
GW just sucks at writing
eh not entirely, they're good at broad strokes more then anything
There's a reason 40k became a lot more popular after they started writing shit again
minor ingot
then we've kind of circled back to malicious, in the same way that although nurg...
That's certainly not true though. He actively does malicious things because he is malicious. He doesn't have to imprison that Eldar goddess, or do any of the other messed up stuff He does
He represents entropy
He could literally do nothing and fulfill his godly function
terse flume
birth is always painful
minor ingot
Not if you take your emperor approved epidural
Then it's just uncomfortable and awkward
crisp heath
Nurgle is a sweetheart, he just made a nice little house for his wife and cooks for her all the time and people get mad at him for that
minor ingot
He's literally an abusive father
crisp heath
He prolly beat the hell out of Mortarion with a whip
We know how mortarion grew up, that's probably the only affection he understands. Good father figure.
minor ingot
I mean, the emperor is too but only to angron
arctic talon
Nurgle is the definition
terse flume
no idea why this got caught
arctic talon
of an abusive spouse
minor ingot
Yeah lol
minor ingot
no idea why this got caught
I have a feeling Erebus is in the chat
See guys
Even the machine spirit sees the sus
plush mason
no idea why this got caught
that bot can be really dumb at times
crisp heath
My cat has bitten me for my nurgle comments and I trust her judgement. I retract all statements and will now stan Khorne.
plush mason
My cat has bitten me for my nurgle comments and I trust her judgement. I retract...
smart
Khorne is best
terse flume
nurgle can also do personally malicious stuff while being ambivalent about his broader outcomes, in part cause he's kinda cartoonish
like, it seems kind of a bit, idk
minor ingot
I mean, it is still worth fighting it even if the intentions are not actively malicious. Even though they have multiple instances of being portrayed as such
Chaos gods are perversions of things you can consider good
Like khorne being all honorable and shit
terse flume
right we have no reason to assume the tyranids are malicious, that's not the same thing as saying lets all share a galaxy
orchid lark
We’re back to this conversation
plush mason
like, it seems kind of a bit, idk
its because Nurgle is the most pathalogical of the 4 gods and actually does think he is being kind and loving when he isnt
terse flume
nah they're def not ok
minor ingot
its because Nurgle is the most pathalogical of the 4 gods and actually does thin...
There's no proof that he believes it
crisp heath
Nurgle is absolutely aware he's a bastard lmao
terse flume
like they're cartoon villians, they're the fuckin captian planet bad guys who pollute because it's fun to pollute
they pollute because
minor ingot
Like
They're actively malevolent
That's their point
Their entire point is malice
crisp heath
Nurgle takes a lot of joy in suffering, I only stan him because he's cute
orchid lark
“Um ackhually thats Malal”
orchid lark
Like chaos stans I don't understand when they say that they're good
Stockholm Syndrom from being in abusive relationships
plush mason
Nurgle takes a lot of joy in suffering, I only stan him because he's cute
me and you have very different ideas of cute then lol
orchid lark
terse flume
it's all this guy
crisp heath
me and you have very different ideas of cute then lol
Nurgle and his daemons are just objectively adorable, they're like 90% bloated, lacerated puppies
plush mason
ofc i think fleshhounds of khorne are cute so i really cant talk much lol
minor ingot
Like the Emperor gets a free pass on so much shit if you just take into account he's been dealing with these dickheads for 40000 years
orchid lark
He had been dealing with echoes of them
minor ingot
Well the big 3 were born in the middle ages
orchid lark
Slaanesh’s birth is what made the eye of terror no?
plush mason
yes
crisp heath
minor ingot
So he's been dealing with 3 of them at least since m1
terse flume
time doesn't work in the warp, so also no
crisp heath
They're just little guys
orchid lark
and the eye of terror is the space that thins the veil between realspace and warp right?
minor ingot
time doesn't work in the warp, so also no
That's bad GW writing. Broke is warp doesn't make aense
terse flume
slaneesh has always existed, slaneesh was born when the eye of terror was created, slaneesh still sleeps, etc
orchid lark
Slaanesh may have existed like a Vashtorr thing too
minor ingot
Bespoke is that the warp is tethered and bound by reality
orchid lark
Would be neat
terse flume
there is no bounds on what the warp does it does everything, it is macguffin in purple energy swirly form
orchid lark
minor ingot
The warp isn't real
arctic talon
I mean time in the warp just flows differently
when you leave it
you leave into an aproximate time
orchid lark
The Lake of Make or Break
arctic talon
of how long its passed
minor ingot
Time is defined by material reality
crisp heath
Realspace is tethered and bound by the warp is 10/10. Your emotions don't make sense out of chaos, fleeting moments of sense in the chaos create your emotions. Chaos isn't a perversion of reality, reality is a perversion of chaos.
arctic talon
99%
minor ingot
Time has no meaning in the warp because we give the warp meaning
crisp heath
Chaos is the real universe and we're just mold growing in its fridge
orchid lark
Plague bearers need to have funny rickshaws to pull
arctic talon
lol
minor ingot
Everyone who hates the emperor eventually turns into an erebus poster
terse flume
the warp is in fact like literally outside the bounds of the setting, somehow crossing even the bounds of intellectual property
minor ingot
The emperor protects
terse flume
it's coocoo bananas
orchid lark
Everyone who hates the emperor eventually turns into an erebus poster
Or a Tau lover
crisp heath
I love whatever other people don't like
minor ingot
Tau were better when gw didn't make them grimdark for no reason
crisp heath
Only my love for tyranids is eternal
terse flume
u can fall in the warp and wake up in vermintide, it's cray
orchid lark
What if people really loved you
terse flume
Tau were better when gw didn't make them grimdark for no reason
the fuckin fanbase did!
i love this story so much
minor ingot
I know
It sucked
The fan base doesn't deserve shit
Only the emperor deserves praise
crisp heath
What if people really loved you
My father informs me this is impossible and I don't have time for hypotheticals
minor ingot
Without him there is nothing
orchid lark
Think of the most average person in the community
terse flume
well, like see that's why i like tau
orchid lark
Half of the community read worst than that person
terse flume
because no there is a third way, just don't go into the purple screming vortex, guys
like if the federation from star trek somehow wound up in grimdark land
minor ingot
Yeah, but they're also blue
orchid lark
I mean they’re biologically not tuned to the warp arent they
arctic talon
The Tau are trying their best
minor ingot
Do you know how much I hate blue people?
arctic talon
and I love them for that
terse flume
and is constantly trying to open peaceful relations with the Green Soccer Hooligan Murder Guys
terse flume
I mean they’re biologically not tuned to the warp arent they
they are bad at it cause of brain chemistry yeah
orchid lark
Only three countries say soccer
minor ingot
The worst blue people pf all are the 
terse flume
and their ships skim the warp but don't actually dip into it, which means they're much slower
i'm canadian, hint is in the name
minor ingot
i'm canadian, hint is in the name
Your love of chaos makes sense now
arctic talon
They did try going into the warp tbf
crisp heath
I'm actually starting to come around to the drukhari. Craftworlders can still hurry along to their extinction event.
arctic talon
it didn't go well
terse flume
it's gog agog, your pal!
i don't know why you guys think i am chaos affiliated based on that. gog agog is much worse than the 40k chaos gods
terse flume
u should read kill six billion demons
minor ingot
Sounds like something a tzeentchian shaman would chant at you to cast a spell
crisp heath
Do you have any idea how difficult it is to read Kill Six Billion Demons
minor ingot
Now he's asking me to read heretical texts
terse flume
i've done it like ten times now, lol
crisp heath
It's literally 1 of 2 works I unironically think may be fragments of the Necronomicon
orchid lark
crisp heath
Entirely capable of destabilizing your brain chemistry
minor ingot
Average emperor hater discussion
terse flume
i cannot link the page my avatar is from, alas, and i can't link anything without mild spoilers
crisp heath
You can't even link the first page rip
crisp heath
The automod on this server keeps crashing my discord lmao, I was just explaining why you can't link the very first page
orchid lark
Thats a lie
I only keep up with Jojo and hopefully the new batman white knight series
terse flume
there are like, six or seven books, they're all free and all very good
vale shuttle
oh hey it's kill six billion demons
minor ingot
Don't read crossed
vale shuttle
that's my favourite
minor ingot
It's just gross
terse flume
that's my favourite
they were asking about gog agog!
vale shuttle
YS ATUN VRAMA PRESH to all you aspirants of Royalty out there
crisp heath
Kill Six Billion Demons gets a lot more fun when you realize how much of it the author literally believes
terse flume
uh, not very much of it? it's a panache of dragonball more than anything else
orchid lark
Panache or pastiche
terse flume
the author used to post in the something awful thread
didn't seem that off. pretty standard webcomic guy
crisp heath
It's weeb gnosticism with a lot of underdressed women and also women(?)
Has some cool star wars level creature design if that's your thing, very wacky fellas in there
terse flume
mores the pity, it's legit gret
vale shuttle
Is it like just
a random woman from California has a magical superweapon jammed into her skull and must deal with suddenly ending up in the centre of the Multiverse.
minor ingot
Yeah I aint feeling that
orchid lark
Im very boring when it comes to comics now
crisp heath
I think I stopped reading about book 4 because I got all caught up and did not have the stomach to continue
orchid lark
I still like Saga…
minor ingot
People passionately tell you how something is cool?
vale shuttle
Im very boring when it comes to comics now
time to go searching my backlog for the most boring webcomic i know
crisp heath
Still sad about Eva's Demon btw, really thought that was going somewhere
minor ingot
"Nah it looks like it sucks"
orchid lark
time to go searching my backlog for the most boring webcomic i know
Its called Homestuck
vale shuttle
damn
orchid lark
Still sad about Eva's Demon btw, really thought that was going somewhere
Goddamn she’s just not working on it anymore
vale shuttle
i never finished Homestuck i kinda fell off right after the first horrible intermission
orchid lark
Shes just reprinting the first book over and over
crisp heath
You can say a lot of things about Homestuck, I don't think boring is one of them tho lmao
terse flume
i got bored of it
crisp heath
Terrible
terse flume
it got very dull in the last arc
crisp heath
It's genuinely awful, incohesive, rambling
terse flume
is hivebent the game? also didn't seem very interesting
orchid lark
Its very bogstandard
Play it and enjoy
Not worth if you dont want to be part of ot
Its very much that kinda feel
Also what about Markipliers brother
crisp heath
Well one of Hussie's old "friends" who he hired to write the sequel came out and explained that Hussie intentionally ruined the comic in the second half because he really hated his fans, but then ran into financial trouble and exploited a bunch of fan creators and his "friends" to try and revive it for quick cash
orchid lark
He still doing Twokinds?
terse flume
Well one of Hussie's old "friends" who he hired to write the sequel came out and...
the artist's journey is hard
orchid lark
Hussie shouldve been honest and fucked off
crisp heath
Hussie was always kind of a loser but like, he's really sunk to new lows in the last few years.
orchid lark
Too many plates to spin and just stopped caring
terse flume
he always liked antagonizing the audience and that was part of the appeal
but it went on too long to be tolerable for me
anyway kill six billion is legit nothing like homestuck, radically different beast. weeb is waaaay closer
crisp heath
Yeah but his fans thought it was friendly ribbing and didn't really notice when it turned into genuine resentment, whenever he mentions fans or people's he's hired these days it's always absolutely wild levels of abuse and bullying
orchid lark
Oh okay Twokinds is still going
The Fischbachs staying strong on the internet
Jesus
crisp heath
Gunnerkrigg Court is also ongoing
terse flume
bummer there tbh
crisp heath
Webcomics either die too young or not at all
terse flume
fuckin sluggy freelance is still going afaik
orchid lark
20 years of Twokinds
What the hell could you even write still
Oh I still read Alfie
I almost forgot about that
Now that’s garbage
crisp heath
I used to be a go get a roomie reader and stopped reading for like 3 years, happened to check it out of curiosity one day, it was the 1,000 update and the Big Kiss scene by sheer coincidence, never touched it again lmao
orchid lark
I should read webcomics more
No
arctic talon
lol
orchid lark
terse flume
i can remember reading sluggy freelance on dialup modem and the formatting was all fucked up because every page had a large image that was a tribute to the colombia spacecraft which had just exploded
arctic talon
Anyways time for me to drop Chainsaw man propaganda
you should read it now
I am absolutely not biased
orchid lark
I didnt take to Chainsawman
arctic talon
tbh either you like it
or you don't
Mostly since Denji is weird
and he's the protaginist
arctic talon
based????
orchid lark
Like
crisp heath
OK so the most bottom of the barrel, tasteless swill I've ever consumed and loved was Vampire Cheerleaders/Paranormal Mystery Squad. Horribly misogynistic, not too pretty to look at, no comedy outside of referencing other things. It was like heroin.
orchid lark
When I was 18 and got into a relationship
I quit anime and manga
Like just stopped
arctic talon
Based?????
orchid lark
10 years ago i just watched less and less
minor ingot
Looks like you gave up on life at 18
orchid lark
And i just hated it more and more
minor ingot
Very sad
orchid lark
Looks like you gave up on life at 18
Getting a girlfriend will do that
crisp heath
Chainsaw Man reminds me of the super niche obscure Manga I really dig, namely Douman Seiman and Mizukami Satoshi, so seeing something like that get big really scratched an itch for me.
orchid lark
Three years ago i stopped watching disney stuff
Saw the first trailer of no way home and immediately went
Yeah im done
minor ingot
Lol
orchid lark
I stick to romcom animes, only read like Jojo and some batman stuff
crisp heath
Idk is Mizukami Satoshi still obscure? Lucifer and Biscuit Hammer got an anime so I guess he's on the map now.
terse flume
life is too short to watch stuff you don't immediately become obsessive over due to quality
ya'll should watch barry too
orchid lark
Been thinking about that
minor ingot
Getting a girlfriend will do that
And yes. It's why I told all my friends who would cry at not having gfs to shut the fuck up and enjoy all the extra money and time they have not doing gay shit
terse flume
it's good, and the further it goes the darker it gets and that's muuuuch funnier to me personally
barry i mean
orchid lark
I enjoyed Ozark tho
minor ingot
Small brain moment, breaking bad was good
Not the best show ever
But good
Here's a tip
odd palm
It was just slow
Fr, the first two eps didn’t hook me
terse flume
better call saul was better i'd evaluate
minor ingot
It saves a ton of time too
orchid lark
Skylars actress is so good it made it hard to stomach most of her scenes
arctic talon
don't skip the one in ozimandiyus imo
or whatever the fuck
that episode is called
minor ingot
Yeah
arctic talon
its pretty important
orchid lark
Ngl she does look good tho
arctic talon
and also her actress does a great job
minor ingot
Like there's 3 or 4 Skylar white scens that are important
crisp heath
Honestly I gave up relationships willingly and now I am genuinely torn between devoting my life to a higher calling in the monastery or becoming the scrungliest weeb to ever exist, and I don't know what that being my major life juncture says about me.
minor ingot
The rest are complete fuckong wastes od time
terse flume
all skylar scenes are important
minor ingot
I skipped the Skylar scenes on my 2nd watch through
terse flume
it's just the carwash ones are dumb
crisp heath
Oh Robert Eggers finished filming Nosferatu if anyone's been waiting on that
minor ingot
Honestly if you want like
terse flume
u gotta see the core emotional betrayl that underpins the inherent contradiction of the ww character where he thinks he can both constantly lie to and abuse his wife and also be a loving husband
orchid lark
I had a profound moment of sadness in one episode because i saw a lot of old cars from the 2000s and the general aesthetic of me being 8 years old
minor ingot
An express VPN version of breaking bad
orchid lark
And i just felt sad
minor ingot
Just skip any time there's no drugs going on
Tiny brain zoomtertainment
Very enjoyable
orchid lark
I watched that new Arnie show
FUBAR
Not really good
But pleasantly surprised at the movie level cinematography and budget
Just kinda hoping for another Modern Family and Arrested Development
I hated B99 and those types
Samberg just played such an annoying character
Just too much attempts at being relatable it genuinely sucked
terse flume
i only like comedies that make me get those horrible wrenching nihilistic belly laughs when something abjectly terrible is happening and it only gets worse
like, did you ever watch three lions
terse flume
ideal comedy for me
crisp heath
There's like, this brand of dry comedy
crisp heath
That's just people either remaining very calm as the situation slowly gets more absurd
terse flume
AD was alright
orchid lark
AD was alright
crisp heath
Or becoming extremely unhinged in totally normal situations
orchid lark
Good enough for me
crisp heath
And that's what does it for me
crisp heath
Yeah trailer park boys is good
orchid lark
A very much a snapshot to how chaos gods should actually be
crisp heath
Like it's a funny guy/straight man scenario but the situation itself is the straight man or funny guy
terse flume
there is a sequence in the recent season of barry where a character nihilistically drinks store brand vodka while on the phone to her husband with absolute clear i'm-going-to-kill-myself-the-fun-way bleak horrible intent
and i don't think i've laughed that hard at a show all year
minor ingot
you need one of these friend
crisp heath
terse flume
it was so grim but so fucking funny
crisp heath
This kills me
orchid lark
Oh man
terse flume
bojack horseman
orchid lark
I should rewatch danshi no nichijou
terse flume
my ideal comedy is something like: a severely psychologically damaged individual slowly self destructs, realizes their patterns of behaviour and improves only to slide back and find themselves even uglier than they thought. then, in their moment of most pain and darkness, their pants fall down
orchid lark
That speaks volumes about you
I just enjoy schadenfreude
But theres something weirder about what you describe
crisp heath
Literally bojack horseman
orchid lark
The slowburn of bad choices
At least no one here said rick and mortg
God is in his heaven
All is right in the world
crisp heath
The ideal comedy comes from alcoholic anime reviewers on YouTube who haven't uploaded since 2013
orchid lark
Demo?
crisp heath
Demo
terse flume
Literally bojack horseman
l]
crisp heath
I'm so glad you immediately knew it was demo
minor ingot
At least no one here said rick and mortg
I'm pickle rick
orchid lark
I'm so glad you immediately knew it was demo
My friends love Demo
Im a demo enjoyer by association
crisp heath
He did actually upload a couple years ago and read the racist HP Lovecraft poem
Don't know if you saw it
orchid lark
Dont think I did
I did consider reading his book
Give him a little sumn sumn from amazon
crisp heath
I didn't know he wrote a book?
crisp heath
Gonna be real here didn't know he could read anything more intensive than subtitles
orchid lark
Im surprised he was lucid enough to write a book
crisp heath
Honestly writing a novel is much easier if you're blitzed, I stopped writing when I got sober
crisp heath
Then consider that free advice
orchid lark
Just shitty romance short novels
Nah I don’t drink
Nor do drugs
Dont got money for thag
Nor is in my religion
crisp heath
Man bodice rippers are fueled by alcohol and self loathing I swear
terse flume
in theory my religion prohibits intoxicating substances too
minor ingot
Honestly writing a novel is much easier if you're blitzed, I stopped writing whe...
Dude. When I was reading the dark tower books I swear some of the cocaine Steven King was snorting was stuck in the binder
The manic pace and exposition made ME feel high while reading
crisp heath
I still find it hilarious he doesn't even remember writing Cujo
minor ingot
Lol
terse flume
he also can't remember performing in creepshow, even though it was his best acting performance by far
crisp heath
Honestly Dr. Sleep is bizarrely touching when you take into account his own substance abuse, especially if you're recovering yourself
I highly recommend the movie purely for the scene between Danny and Jack
orchid lark
Can pair the experience with listening to linkin parks meteora and nin the fragile
For the ultimate recovery whiplash
minor ingot
King should be in 40k
Fuck please no
crisp heath
Y'all seen Maximum Overdrive?
Steven King decided to write and direct a second movie about evil cars, he had AC/DC make the soundtrack, and then he went completely off the deepend because he was too high to actually make a movie, and you end up with one of the most insane movies ever made that the producer only released because he was desperate to make a single penny off this catastrophe
He says it was a learning experience, and the lesson was to never direct another movie
Like I'm going to spoil the plot twist because this movie barely has a plot: ||Aliens brought machines to life to kill humans because they want to repopulate Earth. The aliens are defeated by a soviet satellite with space lasers off-screen in a block of text at the very end after a 2 day long war.||
It is absolutely one of the films of all time
crimson kayak
well, a new voiceline from the mourningstar vox apparently confirms we do salvage heretic stuff
green loom
I'm increasingly in the mood to write some homebrew stuff
Anyone know a good app I can compile it in
orchid lark
I just docs
crimson kayak
google docs are fine as long as you don't want to be extremely fancy with visuals and such
green loom
At most just reference images for certain things
Like characters and colour schemes
Should work fine
tropic olive
I have a question Can eversor assassins take down Space Marines or even Custodes?
orchid lark
yeah
tropic olive
I'm somewhat new to the lore of Warhammer 40,000, so my question might sound a bit silly
orchid lark
dunno about custodes
but the goge vandire thing
like a hundred eversors or something wrecked through a lot of space marines
orchid lark
uh kinda
green loom
Not HH level, it was more of a power struggle
orchid lark
its an ecclesiarchal thing
a high lord got a lot power
abused it
did a lot of really fucked up things
tropic olive
high lord vs space marine ?
orchid lark
high lord vs other high lords
tropic olive
okk i see
tropic olive
ok thanks
orchid lark
more or less led to the inception of Sisters of Battle too
fast sonnet
Doge Vandire, the dog who loves feet
tropic olive
I understand better now
fast sonnet
@tropic olive Also fun fact, the animal, Seal, is called Blubber Dogs in WH40K
tropic olive
lmao
minor ingot
Custodes get the emperors own plot armor
orchid lark
Custodes arent supposed to lose
orchid lark
only geneseed tithe
celest dome
Depend, some don't pay any other at all, while other pay smaller Tithe (Necromunda)
green loom
Necromunda is a recruiting world, I mean stuff like Macragge and Baal
uneven temple
Exempted iirc
green loom
That's how I remember it
Aight
Going to do a quick summary after I finish notes for today
orchid lark
Aptus non
torpid narwhal
i had a dream nergal released a plague and it killed my puppy 
its what i get for reading before bed
celest dome
Well better get to killing it's follower
coarse pumice
Custodes arent supposed to lose
Don’t they lose to Harlequins?
plush mason
lol
orchid lark
they lose more often than not
when in stories
anytime they do win
its very plot armour
hexed pilot
Idk if this counts as lore but I thought it would make an interesting discussion. So as we know the Boltgun (both the smaller and the Astartes weapons) are extremely powerful and devastating especially against infantry. In todays warfare there are many things that are considered banned due to its “inhumane” way of affecting battles. Do you guys think the Boltgun or Bolter would be permitted for usage?
orchid lark
in real life?
hexed pilot
Yes
orchid lark
maybe
one of those things where you get hit, its hard to get fixed issues
cruel to human life
tropic olive
Idk if this counts as lore but I thought it would make an interesting discussion...
I believe so, as I have just verified the caliber, and the bolter utilizes artillery ammunition
crimson kayak
He can't infect you without your consent
Ah yes, the bile method
hexed pilot
I believe so, as I have just verified the caliber, and the bolter utilizes artil...
Wouldn’t it technically more of an auto cycling RPG with how the munitions work?
I mean I can see caliber and what not but as a hand held infantry weapon..
terse flume
the things banned on the basis of inhumane warfare is legit one of the most politized and incoherent policies of the last century and change, and also is one of the most persistant jarhead myths of the "we don't shoot the person we shoot their belt buckle 
" nonsense vareity
like, germany considered flamethrowers insanely inhumane on the basis they are, but they lost the war
they were on the prohibited list but the US never agreed to it so
a boltgun has some shared characteristics with like, explosive rounds? which i think are broadly used by most modern combatants. it would be fine
it's not like a flechette or hollowpoint where it has no function other than maiming, which is sometimes a loose criteria
tropic olive
Wouldn’t it technically more of an auto cycling RPG with how the munitions work?
Yes, but the problem is that the bullets fired are so powerful that the individuals hit would be nearly impossible to recover, whereas with an RPG, you potentially might not end up as minced meat, whereas with a bolter, you have zero chance of survival
terse flume
also a lot of these things that are banned for warfare use are permitted for policing use, so it's not like they're foreign to most governments
undone zodiac
Rocket propelled grenade machinegun. Its bit hard to say
I mean explosive and incendiary bullets i belive are illegal on normal firearms
But boltgun is so another tier its hard to define
hexed pilot
I mean explosive and incendiary bullets i belive are illegal on normal firearms
Explosive is still permitted. Incendiary is frowned upon at best
terse flume
I mean explosive and incendiary bullets i belive are illegal on normal firearms
you've probably heard about the first clause, use on civilians, which is very routinely accused of one side or the other doing in conflicts
using them on civilians is a warcrime. using them otherwise is very broadly permitted
undone zodiac
I also wonder how would the litanies and other nonsense like that to be treated
hexed pilot
it's not like a flechette or hollowpoint where it has no function other than mai...
From what some of the stories are in 40k (I mostly note the thunder warriors vs the militia as per the story of that priest of the lightening stone) it seems that the bolter does a substantial job at maiming too so your aren’t guaranteed a swift death like the RPG
undone zodiac
Like how rubbing pig fat on bullets is considered very uncooth for reasons i wont delve into
tropic olive
We must not forget that the bolter is significantly advanced in terms of technology. On a battlefield like ours, it would be a devastating weapon, much like the shotgun during WW1 or the flamethrower in WW2
plush mason
using them on civilians is a warcrime. using them otherwise is very broadly perm...
targeting civilians is both a war crime and a massive waste of munitions. nether fact stops armies from doing it sadly
terse flume
From what some of the stories are in 40k (I mostly note the thunder warriors vs ...
it's fine if it maims in the service of doing something else, it's a problem when designed explicitly and only to maim is the insanely fucking loose, inconsistently applied basis i think
or, it's more likely to wind up in a treaty
hexed pilot
We must not forget that the bolter is significantly advanced in terms of technol...
Isn’t the bolter just a metal brick that uses a gas powered system that “ignites” the munitions? I’m not at all familiar with the bolter design but I get the jist of it
hexed pilot
Lol
undone zodiac
In 40k it was rarely addressed. Only things like rad and phosphour weapons have been considered as far im aware of inhumane and not to be used, at least vs humans
hexed pilot
10 round mags that hold 50 rounds for some reason
tropic olive
Isn’t the bolter just a metal brick that uses a gas powered system that “ignites...
yeah but its WH40k lmao
terse flume
10 round mags that hold 50 rounds for some reason
a magazine on the back of the weapon that supposedly somehow gets coke can sized projectiles through a tiny grip
hexed pilot
a magazine on the back of the weapon that supposedly somehow gets coke can sized...
Lol facts
undone zodiac
I really like the idea of melta gun
Just super hot beam that evaporizes whatever it shot at to ash
Or molten slag
terse flume
we have plasma lance style weapons for cracking armour, i'm not much of an armour nerd these days
plush mason
Isn’t the bolter just a metal brick that uses a gas powered system that “ignites...
its a 2 stage gyro rocket so the first stage is just your standard gas powered gun but once the round leaves the barrel its on board rocket motor fires and propels the round down range
hexed pilot
Just super hot beam that evaporizes whatever it shot at to ash
We do have something similar in the real world that is like that to neutralize Inc missiles/rockets
undone zodiac
We do have something similar in the real world that is like that to neutralize I...
Well not as a just firearm
hexed pilot
Fair
hexed pilot
its a 2 stage gyro rocket so the first stage is just your standard gas powered g...
Gotchya. Even then it seems feasible maybe not with magic accuracy like in 40k but seems like it can be doable
But I digress.
storm jungle
Yeah the bolter is not advanced by any means
one of the biggest points of 40k is that a lot of human weaponry is brutal and primitive 
storm jungle
yeah but its WH40k lmao
Would you consider a Leman Russ advanced
terse flume
i dunno i think it's supposedly insanely finnicky, which sounds kind of like it has some kind of internal mechanism somehow? it's weird
summer rover
the russ isn't finicky. some of the turret weapons are, but the tank itself is brute stupid.
terse flume
no the bolter sorry
summer rover
bolters aren't complex (except for the one combi-plasma the DA have).
summer rover
literally built so spess mareens can club people with them if needed.
i meant azazel's gun. the weird lookin' one.
undone zodiac
Older one at least made sense
storm jungle
god no
plush mason
....
storm jungle
that one was meme to death
undone zodiac
New one is just plain stupid
terse flume
terse flume
this is one of the ones that loads via magic
undone zodiac
Prefer that way more
storm jungle
i uploaded the non-english version
summer rover
the bolter rounds inflate when they reach the firing block.
storm jungle
Prefer that way more
this one is better i think
makes a lot more sense
very 40k
terse flume
why is limiting the bullet travel...good
storm jungle
its a joke
summer rover
it ain't
storm jungle
incase you didnt get it
terse flume
oh lol
terse flume
it's 40k
storm jungle
no
plush mason
Prefer that way more
yeah no that mag could never work. no feed system could ever work at that angle and the "neck" bit is to small for the rounds to fit thru even if one could lol
summer rover
i like their choice to retain the trigger guard, but edit the trigger our of it.
storm jungle
even 40k has its limit of "stupid"
terse flume
honestly it makes more mechanical sense than the first one you posted, legit
undone zodiac
Theres is reason 40k guns look stupid. Theyre created by brits
plush mason
they invented bullpup so yeah hard disagree
astral whale
Brits cant make guns
The finest gun they’ve ever made was the Lee-Enfield. Everything after that has been garbage.
storm jungle
summer rover
finally, a bolter for the ogryn
storm jungle
plush mason
i will never understand the bullpup hate
undone zodiac
Bren was chezc design, stens was garbage pipe, germans had to remake l85 for them
terse flume
probably pretty close to acheivable with real world firearms
summer rover
i will never understand the bullpup hate
ar-15 autists insisting anything else is a step back from progress.
storm jungle
probably pretty close to acheivable with real world firearms
stop lmao
terse flume
reminds me of those like barbie doll guns that people buy and get a million accessories for
astral whale
Bren was chezc design, stens was garbage pipe, germans had to remake l85 for the...
The Sten was designed to be a piece of garbage. The Germans made a better sten in the late war.
summer rover
the sten was designed to be made with scraps in a toolshed.
undone zodiac
Lancaster was ok for a mp 28 rip off
tropic olive
Would you consider a Leman Russ advanced <:KEK:984899442454970368>
I'm currently reading about what a Leman Russ is, and it seems quite powerful btw im new in wh40k lore
undone zodiac
I want guard regiment with lasguns stylized as stens
astral whale
Lancaster was ok for a mp 28 rip off
That’s the problem with gun designs in the 30’s everyone ripped off the Mp28
terse flume
u can bolt all kinds of goofy crap to ur guns
storm jungle
I'm currently reading about what a Leman Russ is, and it seems quite powerful bt...
Its not
its a death trap
undone zodiac
And guards stealing other lasguns to replace
storm jungle
Also like
literally half of that is nonsense
lmao
And of all the possible tanks to be stuck in, a Leman Russ was probably the worst. People spoke of it as the Pride of the Imperium, the greatest battle tank in human history, the mainstay of the Great Crusade. Was it shit. A Leman Russ was a rolling deathtrap. Its tall profile was so notoriously awful that no commander ever wanted to be squadron leader – the only thing big enough to shield a Leman Russ during operations was another Leman Russ, so better to keep the command unit ahead of you for as long as you could. Its fragile tracks were exposed and its armour was a mess of easy-to-hit vertical planes. The standard pattern sponson-bulges just presented another flat edge to destroy, another reason to be glad not to have them. The interior was noisy and prone to bursting into flames whenever a loader coughed too loudly. And, if you were truly unlucky enough to have those sponsons, there was only one escape hatch, right at the top of the main turret, and so the chances of getting out alive in case of all-too-likely disaster were practically zero.
No, whoever had designed the Leman Russ – Kaska had always assumed it wasn’t actually the primarch of the VI – was a moron. Or a sadist. Or both. The only things it had going for it were cheapness, mechanical reliability and a certain rugged survivability in numbers. The design was so brutally simple that the Imperium was able to churn them out by the million. It mattered less that each individual unit was a study in self-harm when you could overwhelm a battlefield with hundreds of them. And a front-mounted lascannon at least could keep firing as long as its power packs held a charge, which made running out of shells somewhat less of a disaster.
Still, all in all, the crews had few illusions about the tanks they rode into war. Deathboxes, they were called, and homewreckers, and other, earthier, names too. Infantry troopers would occasionally look askance at them, jealous of all that thick armour they had around them, but a Leman Russ tanker knew how fragile it all was really, and how going out to a las-blast was far preferable to being burned alive or buried under a wall of mud or suffocated by trapped engine smoke.
plush mason
I'm currently reading about what a Leman Russ is, and it seems quite powerful bt...
its a powerful tank but its also a massive leap backwards in tank design and as such is a death trap
storm jungle
^
A single abrams could literally entirely steamroll it
or any modern tank for that matter
plush mason
^
storm jungle
its basically a WW1 tank with a turret
astral whale
The Leeman Russ is a joke. Pretty sure it was named in jest of the Primarch because of how shit it is.
astral whale
its basically a WW1 tank with a turret
It’s more like an interwar tank.
storm jungle
It’s more like an interwar tank.
its literally the british WW1 tank
because GW is based in Engerland
astral whale
its literally the british WW1 tank
In that it reaches WWII tank speeds and on paper has WWII tank levels of armor.
storm jungle
🏴
terse flume
do other forces even field tanks?
plush mason
minus necrons because they are chads
they field floating death pryamids
astral whale
🏴
It’s a mark V chassis with a panzer IV turret and a SU-152 tank destroyer Gun.
undone zodiac
I really want some battalion wars 2 anglo isles design to guard tanks
storm jungle
It’s a mark V chassis with a panzer IV turret and a SU-152 tank destroyer Gun.
Its really not
i legit doubt whoever designed the Leman Russ IRL knew any of those at all
its literally a fucking brick with a turret, again
tropic olive
> And of all the possible tanks to be stuck in, a Leman Russ was probably the wo...
okk ty
tropic olive
its a powerful tank but its also a massive leap backwards in tank design and as ...
i see
undone zodiac
undone zodiac
This
storm jungle
DONT DO IT
undone zodiac
Is tank design
storm jungle
AA-
undone zodiac
storm jungle
storm jungle
What did they do to my dad's truck
undone zodiac
True imperial design
plush mason
it really is
plush mason
where does the crew sit?
storm jungle
they do it flintstones style
sit at the bottom of the tank and use your feet to move the tracks
plush mason
lol
undone zodiac
One guy sits outside with gas thrower
plush mason
i do wonder how GW is able to make some of the best and most practical/realistic stuff and some of the most stupid stuff all at them same time lol
undone zodiac
I like imperial fliers being flying freight containers
plush mason
imperial aircraft are unironically flying bricks with so much armor and weapons they shouldnt be able to fly
a valk has 45mm of armor
plush mason
It was like over 15 tons or something
because the whole bloody thing is armored lol
plush mason
thunderhawk is probably like 50 tons just in armor weight or something even more stupid
undone zodiac
plush mason
they are gigantic
summer rover
typical british aeroplane design.
undone zodiac
Hans ve need to make it more ergonomic!
More armour you say?
Nein hans!
More payload?
Gott verdamnt!
Battleschlappe cannone?
... ja hans. JA
astral whale
Its really not
Look at the muzzle break and tell me they didn’t take inspiration from Soviet artillery pieces.
plush mason
Look at the muzzle break and tell me they didn’t take inspiration from Soviet ar...
if it is that was ether pure accident or who ever made it use to know war hobbiysts
summer rover
carry over from the design team kitbashing it from leftover testors kits.
plush mason
because no actual/self respecting military hobbyist would ever make a tank like that lol
summer rover
who could respect themselves working in GW's design team?
plush mason
vaild point
summer rover
"rehash this 80s design, but make it more generic" "okay, now add skulls and balance it on this pointy rock"
the new ultramarines hero, looking good.
plush mason
when you are GW and you need to make a model more generic, just make it an ultramarine
@storm jungle so have you seen the new Ogryn helmet?
astral whale
if it is that was ether pure accident or who ever made it use to know war hobbiy...
IMO it is someone who likes this kind of stuff but is neither a hobbyist, engineer or historian.
“Oh, that’s a big gun.”
“Oh. That’s a sleek looking turret.”
“Haha. Funny ww1 hull design.”
Combine the three and you get a Leman Russ.
plush mason
true
storm jungle
<@166943308231344128> so have you seen the new Ogryn helmet?
I have
I hate it
lmao
plush mason
and then they get someone that knows some military history because they literally made a mortor cannon for the russ lol
and then they get someone that is a hobbyist to make the SM siege vic
viral halo
The reason they look the way they do is the original test kits were converted from WWI and WW2 model kits and they just stick with it
I believe the OG russ tank was a conversion of a b1 bis model
plush mason
I believe the OG russ tank was a conversion of a b1 bis model
so when did they switch over the british mk4 for the chasses and tracks?
viral halo
so when did they switch over the british mk4 for the chasses and tracks?
The original concept pieces were converted WWI and WW2 model kits, they took bits and pieces of each and once they reached a universal design that looked cool enough and sold well they just stuck with it
Just a bunch of dudes playing w models and sculpts until they found something they agreed upon
plush mason
looking at the turret. its clear its a scaled up char b1 turret lol
viral halo
looking at the turret. its clear its a scaled up char b1 turret lol
that is where they drew a ton of inspo from
as it was one of the cooler looking kits
viral halo
"They were converted and mocked up originally from airfix kits. The Leman Russ is a Char B1, the Land Raider a back to front Mark IV, the rhino an M113 APC, the predator ditto with a soviet style bubble turret and WW1 style sponsons whacked on."
plush mason
looks at the DKOK kit just being the result of throwing the ww1 western front in a blender lol
viral halo
Spikeybits did an article about it a few years ago
astral whale
"They were converted and mocked up originally from airfix kits. The Leman Russ i...
I was partially correct!!
plush mason
it looks awesome if you ignore all its flaws yeah. but then thats true for most of 40k lol
viral halo
Looking cool > being functional
plush mason
yup
astral whale
When we getting irl mechs smh
Never.
viral halo
Never.
Yea lol even in gundam they had to make bs up for mechs to be viable
minovsky particle
or some shit
plush mason
i wonder what inspired this because it is unironically one of the best designed vics in 40k lol
astral whale
Mechs are a stupid idea. Like the only place they’d be useful is in cities and you NEVER want to take armored vehicles into urban environments.
viral halo
i wonder what inspired this because it is unironically one of the best designed ...
they saw a really big tractor and went WOAH
terse flume
killdozer with a fixed turret
plush mason
they saw a really big tractor and went WOAH
which is unironically how the idea for a tank came about lol
summer rover
no, someone saw the guard had an actual good assault cannon and they couldn't let them keep it.
undone zodiac
I mean standard predator is basically m113 turned to tank
and it looks a bit functional
viral halo
which is unironically how the idea for a tank came about lol
Did you know the kaiser really hated shotguns?
Hilarity ensues
astral whale
Fun fact: the “Cope Cages” you see on Russian tanks in Ukraine were an attempt to protect crews from the verticality of urban fighting.
Not top attack munitions.
viral halo
Urban fighting is a nightmare for armored vehicles
Russians had to deal w that quite a lot in the past 50 years
And got wrecked every time
plush mason
Fun fact: the “Cope Cages” you see on Russian tanks in Ukraine were an attempt t...
well even then they are worthless against most of the weapons they are going up against lol
undone zodiac
Rhino immolator
astral whale
well even then they are worthless against most of the weapons they are going up ...
Not really. The cope cage is meant to protect the crew from things like Molotovs and small arms. Not anti tank weapons.
plush mason
Not really. The cope cage is meant to protect the crew from things like Molotovs...
then why is it being put on tanks going into field combat?
astral whale
then why is it being put on tanks going into field combat?
Counter to drone dropped munitions.
plush mason
Counter to drone dropped munitions.
which the Ukrainians arent doing lol. like i get what you are saying but the point is the Russians are just using those cope cages all wrong and thats the main reason they are being memed
undone zodiac
Those cages do make exiting seem to become harder
plush mason
yeah they do
but ofc crew survivability has never been a factor in Russian tank design
astral whale
which the Ukrainians arent doing lol. like i get what you are saying but the poi...
Oh no I’m not praising them. They’re a fucking poor man’s solution to a problem that should be solved with better doctrine and newer tanks.
@plush mason Both sides are using civilian quad copter drones for great effect to drop bombs on both infantry and armored targets.
plush mason
oh i know
but with the Ukrainians of they spot a tank with a cope cage with the drone they just call in atry or other AT weapons
green loom
My glorious T34 is the epitome of tank design, and if you disagree you are a Nazi!
My glorious Tiger I is the epitome of tank design, and if you disagree you are a commie!
plush mason
My glorious T34 is the epitome of tank design, and if you disagree you are a Naz...
it really does get to that level a lot
summer rover
ukraine's latest offensive against the russians
astral whale
My glorious T34 is the epitome of tank design, and if you disagree you are a Naz...
The AMX-13 is glorious tank design.
plush mason
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/375816806939754497/1113535286195011645/28...
please tell me the glass tints once you get in
astral whale
It is the most tank design ever created.
summer rover
please tell me the glass tints once you get in
that's why it's an attack, the russians have nowhere else to shit in the field, so they have to live with it.
green loom
it really does get to that level a lot
Truly a very sensible lot, arguing how good the T34 was, despite the number lost eclipsing German tank production throughout the war
plush mason
that's why it's an attack, the russians have nowhere else to shit in the field, ...
hell iirc 25% of all Russian houses dont have in-door pluming so that drone would be the first time many of them had even seen a toilet out side of pics lol
astral whale
Wait
Didn’t the Soviets steal a bunch of toilets and plumbing shit from Berlin when they sacked it?
plush mason
yeah
summer rover
you- you think they stole them to develop plumbing tech?
astral whale
What are the odds that an old house in Moscow has a German Toilet in it?
plush mason
thats part of why its only 25% lol
astral whale
you- you think they stole them to develop plumbing tech?
No, the average Soviet soldier was dirt poor and probably wanted to bring some luxuries home. Being able to flush your shit away is a VERY nice luxury.
plush mason
yes
its also funny and sad that Russians stealing toilets during war has happened since ww2
astral whale
Not just toilets. Faucets, fixtures, piping, everything.
plush mason
yeah
its really really fucked up that those poor sods have to do that
but we have gone way off topic here
summer rover
for the best really
green loom
Anyone wants to talk homebrew?
astral whale
crimson kayak
Anyone wants to talk homebrew?
Go on
orchid lark
i wonder what inspired this because it is unironically one of the best designed ...
i love you vindicator
green loom
Debating names for le region
I used to call it the Pannonian Gate but that might be a bit too boring
plush mason
i love you vindicator
its great lol
its just a brick with a siege mortar and a prow on the front. literally perfect for its job
orchid lark
I used to call it the Pannonian Gate but that might be a bit too boring
just called mine Ym'lasa Sector
green loom
And I'm thinking about details for my Chapter's homeworld, Khordona
I want it to be similar to some ultramarine worlds with like nobility
Just more knightly/later european than Roman
celest dome
Take Imperial France, with Not Napoleon
green loom
Also working on a better Icon
near wasp
I asked him if he was intrested in any xenos and he replied they must all die....
Ive created a monster
near wasp
Ill see, but its the viking aesthetic that draws him to the wolves. Im more drawn to the holy crusader vibe
celest dome
So 30k Space Wolves ? That's somewhat better at least
storm jungle
I asked him if he was intrested in any xenos and he replied they must all die......
Damn hes gonna become cringe personified