40k-lore-chat

[green loom]

I'm asking if you drew it

[storm jungle]

Bruh i cant draw for shit

its this

[vale shuttle]

honestly you gotta wonder what big E's proportions are like when you see things like this

like is his neck super long or do his arms pop out from his ribcage

maybe the emperor was the mutant all along

[storm jungle]

or hes just Anatolian

[vale shuttle]

smh

this is why he had to wipe out the history of humanity or whatever, so no-one knew that all anatolians were space wizards

[green loom]

The Turks were his first scions

[storm jungle]

lmfao

[versed ledge]

Sort of wonder how Big E even infiltrated human society if he is a giant of a man

[terse flume]

he could change form canonically

including presenting as both genders or otherwise as many different historical figures (and in particular tyrants)

[storm jungle]

Yeah hes a biomancer

the fact that he could change his form into anything was revealed as earlier as Master of Mankind, the new Siege book just said it more plainly

[versed ledge]

What was the emperor doing in the 1st millennia early to mid 1900s

[terse flume]

when i last asked i was told he definitely wasn't genghis khan, which is stupid, but there's a ghengis khan demon toy so

[storm jungle]

He isnt represented as any historical figures for the most part because it would be stupid and mostly pretty offensive lol

[green loom]

He's sort of vaguely implied to be Saint George

[terse flume]

i feel like you could get away with some more obscure ones, but really not a great avenue of pursuit

[storm jungle]

Yeah or more just the inspiration for his tapestry

[versed ledge]

lmao, I know...saint George the dragon slayer?

[terse flume]

is he christ, cause he seems a lot like christ

[storm jungle]

No

lmao

No jesus references are made to him in any book

[green loom]

Yes, apparently him fighting the void dragon may have inspired it

It's not said directly

[terse flume]

also iirc the 40k world and ours diverged a long time ago so it's not 1:1

[storm jungle]

The entire lore for him around our era is "he watched humanity from the shadows and sometimes tried to interfere with light pokings but did nothing"

Also nah its basically 1 on 1 until humanity invents space travel

stuff like the gulf war and WW1 still happened

[terse flume]

something something morphogenic historigram echoes something something

[green loom]

Isn't Genghis said to be Doombreed?

[versed ledge]

And the formation of UN happened as sorted insinuated with that confederacy thing

[storm jungle]

No thats not related either

[terse flume]

i wonder if they ever thought about making like, little golden throne necklaces in fiction and stuff but thought that would be too on the nose

[storm jungle]

DAoT humanity wasn't a confederacy

it was more just disjointed human groups inhabiting planets doing their own thing

and sometimes warring with each other because humanity lol

[versed ledge]

Understandable, we mon'keigh be like that

[storm jungle]

We do the monke dance

[terse flume]

it's super ambiguous right? yeah it's definitely clear they fought often but they also shared like, a crazy amount in terms of their magic make anything machines and there's constant expansion etc, so there might have been an or empires over the period that rose and fell

[versed ledge]

Still would be pretty neat if there was an old faction from pre-imperial earth that's still out there in the void

[terse flume]

there was probably not a single coherent polity but there clearly was some kind of trade network eg

[storm jungle]

Yeah basically imagine star trek but no Federation

Humanity just chilled and did their own thing on their own bubbles of influence

[versed ledge]

Like what we do these days

[storm jungle]

LMAO

but more or less we dont know much beyond that

[terse flume]

apparently they did this on one occasion where the early empire found another imperium and another would be emperor?

[vale shuttle]

the emperor is explicitly alexander and suggested to be jesus or his disciples

when i find out he was alexander i laughed and laughed and laughed it was so fucking funny

[storm jungle]

Alexander yes, Jesus no

that was revelaed in the last Siege book i think

along with how he was the one that burned down the Tower of Babel

[vale shuttle]

yeah but doesn't one of the uuuhhhh

[storm jungle]

because memes

[terse flume]

did he like fake killing his dad? was it a changeling thing

[vale shuttle]

doesn't the line include something that suggests he may have been jesus cause horus is like "You were too meek to inherit the Earth"

[terse flume]

was he phillip, did he stage his own possible assassination?

raises so many questions

[vale shuttle]

so it's not like GW is going and saying "THE EMPEROR IS JESUS" but instead "the emperor may be jesus or an early christian oohohohohhooohohhoh"

[versed ledge]

Cool, but still just another crooked imperium. It'll be basically meeting one's own twin like Lindsey Lohan did in parent trap

[storm jungle]

all I know is he founded r/atheism

clearly the early prototype of the Imperial Truth

[terse flume]

my favourite fanon there is that he is christ, and the reason he was so hugely against churches was for how it worked out the first time he tried

[versed ledge]

Only to be the new head of a new religion

[vale shuttle]

i do not like the idea he is jesus tbh

[terse flume]

right you get nailed to something one way or the other

[vale shuttle]

i like the idea that the emperor is a parade of failed warlords

or rather, that he is both failed and successful warlords but because the things he makes falls apart (because all things fall apart) he thinks they're all failures

which is why he keeps making stupid decisoins because he's obsessed with making something permanent when all things are transient

[green loom]

This happens in Horus Rising, the world they invade is decently advanced and the inhabitants are convinced they're on earth

They have their own psyker emperor and golden throne

[versed ledge]

Damn...they conquered Earth...

[terse flume]

i kind of like interpretations where he sucks and the golden throne is kind of a cosmic cuckchair where he can watch the horrible shit he's made forever

[storm jungle]

wow

sounds just like my """job""" in this discord

[versed ledge]

What a fun job

[storm jungle]

i avoid calling it a "job" because ill get people saying "Lmao you consider this a job? Typical discord mod"

[vale shuttle]

"Got this Emoji from r/starcitizen" dilara do you play star citizen?

[storm jungle]

No im just there for emotes

[vale shuttle]

lmao

[storm jungle]

along with uhhh the other 94 servers im in

[vale shuttle]

for a second i thought you were one of the folk fleeced by the wacky guys who made star citizen

[versed ledge]

You're a servant of the imperium...a servant doesn't get compensated for their duty to the imperium

That really puts into question how the manufacturum workers in the hive city even get compensated when they live and eat in the factory

[storm jungle]

Thats kind of it honestly

you get food

lmao

almost nobody in the Imperium working-class wise do it because they got a choice. Its a mix of indoctrination and slave-labor.

[versed ledge]

Sounds like real life....yay

[storm jungle]

Yeah pretty much

IRL at least its hidden with money and a proper workplace with hygiene

https://tenor.com/view/tired-office-cubicle-bob-parr-the-incredibles-gif-7767100

[versed ledge]

I wouldn't be too sure about the workplace and Hygiene, unless upper hiver

Still, a mid-upper hiver can pursue their passions.

Cadian Honour has a good example about a mid-hiver being a painter

[storm jungle]

Oh no I meant IRL

in the Imperium yeah no not happening

[green loom]

You guys have hygiene?

[remote widget]

She was referred to as the late sulla so I think its fine

[green loom]

Cain is well over a hundred years old by the time he's teaching in the schola

[remote widget]

Possibly semi-canon, he has been a religious prophet at least once, and he killed Satan, in the End of the DAOT/Mid unification, which could be considered the end period

[versed ledge]

Oh I know, and the rules still apply too...mid-hiver = middle class after all

[hallow basin]

what are high jeans

[versed ledge]

Jeans that are high?

Like old people jeans

[orchid lark]

Space Marines when they eat tyranid meat

[winter vessel]

has that actually happened before?

[orchid lark]

i wish

despite having the ability to eat almost anything

(even tree bark apparently, as mentioned by Ragnar in some space wolf book)

we dont see Marines eating a lot

[winter vessel]

My money's on the Flesh Tearers doing something like this

[vale shuttle]

give me a story about a marine having to eat a chaos lord / daemon prince's brain in order to find out some crucial information knowing it's a bad idea

then it's a race against the clock to accomplish the objective before they are overcome with the power of chaos and lose control of their mind to the creature they vored

[arctic talon]

eating tyranid meat is a bad idea

mostly since it tries to eat you

[rose thorn]

Isn’t it extremely acidic?

[crisp heath]

My guy, it's not very special to be able to eat tree bark

[arctic talon]

Yes

and its extremely toxic

[rose thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/hungry-patrick-full-spongebob-chomp-gif-3688868

Tyranids eating other Tyranids

[orchid lark]

Not nutritious enough

In the first dark angels book

They ate like

Boring meatloaf

And essentially sugar water

[summer rover]

dark angels once again pissing off everyone else by refusing to make all their rituals edgy and instead chanting in a dark room about their convictions before having a nice midday nap.

[arctic talon]

The dark angels have surprisingly sane rituals

[sharp grove]

Does a blank's effects cease the second they die? And/or if a psyker ate pariah corpse starch, would they feel any more ill than usual?

[crimson kayak]

@hexed trail autocannons ogryn

[hexed trail]

Thought that was an ultra heavy stubber

[crimson kayak]

Nah, that's more similar to the Tommy guns they wielded way way back

[summer rover]

technically, an autocannon is a sort of stubgun, it's just using a large enough caliber it can fire autocannon rounds, which are high explosive anti-tank.

[terse flume]

it's like an immaterium thing, that's the weird part. they don't have souls. so i'd blind guess that the second the meat machine stops moving it stops being eerie

[storm jungle]

Yeah its more about the person and their soul (or lack thereof)

not their body

[orchid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-the-dog-adventure-time-lobster-soul-gif-7462927

[storm jungle]

Lobster Soul my beloved

[random valley]

Mmm lobster soul sandwich my favorite

[silver pollen]

Damn, time to rewatch it... Emperor clearly gave me the sign.

[celest dome]

Haven't eaten lobster inage

[green loom]

I retreat here because gen chat is boring again

[storm jungle]

Im glad people get mad at Fatshark fixing the stuff they asked for again

[green loom]

It's so funny

gets content
Is angry

Like ok bro go play something else then lmfao

[storm jungle]

Yeah like im not even angry

Its just "alright i guess"

[green loom]

Single out "Oh btw this is a cosmetic shop where you can use ducats"
"WTF THEY BRINGING BACK SHOP REEEE"

Its like they want to cry about everything, or something

[storm jungle]

Yeah but lore chat so lets not get too much into it

[orchid lark]

I hate everyone

But you know what I like

Vests

Cant wait for more stuff to dress my dollies for darktide

[green loom]

Yes

I finally get the chest piece I wanted

[random valley]

You know I wonder how many people are praying that Darktide adds Kreig armor

[green loom]

I hope they get thrown off a tall edge(in game)

[orchid lark]

I want a castellan great coat so I can actually dress my character like how I drew mine

[storm jungle]

Its definitely gonna happen

[orchid lark]

Or a nice little hat like a mordian

[storm jungle]

people like tlaking shit but we all know everyone is going to be a sellout and buy it

||Including me||

[jovial glacier]

Why do you say this like it’s a bad thing

[storm jungle]

Because Krieg is cringe

and so is their 90% fanbase

[orchid lark]

Wel

Their fans are cringe

Kriegs on their own

Were fine

Till all the goddamn wehraboos came out

[storm jungle]

like the fire nation

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-dance-fire-fire-nation-fire-bending-gif-15706991

[jovial glacier]

Actually funny story, a friend joined a server a while ago with a krieg as his pfp and someone called him a nazi

He wasn’t doing weird shit he just had the pfp

[orchid lark]

He did weird shit

He had the pfp

[green loom]

[jovial glacier]

He likes krieg

[orchid lark]

[crisp heath]

I should paint some krieg guys with trans masks (an excellent pun) and then post them on reddit so I can harvest the powerful emotions for a slaaneshi ritual

[jovial glacier]

Krieg would never fall to chaos

[orchid lark]

Yeah

Cause they suck

[jovial glacier]

How can fall if already rock bottom?

[crisp heath]

Unironically I really like Krieg. I think there's a lot of potential for good content and characters there, and even the whacked out ultramartyr memes can be funny if they're done right

[green loom]

Yeah the cult of Sacrifice is p cool

[crisp heath]

I'd love a story about a krieger who has a "wait, it's all bullshit?" moment

stfu with that "blah blah it's grimdark because he killed 10 billion people and then stomped around in the blood", give me "it's grimdark because the universe is a joke and this man specifically is the punchline"

[crimson kayak]

So... To talk both about lore and the new update, who you think is gonna be the new traitor?

[pale onyx]

why haven't any perpetuals showed up for so fuckin long now? YOu'd think with how many humans die in the current settings atleast one of them the past 10k years would be a perpetual.

[green loom]

Perpetuals by default sit on the sidelines

Emps was an exception

[pale onyx]

ah okay, I would think the emperor would like send one of them purple custodies to bring them back to terra since they are useful right?

[orchid lark]

You wouldnt know youre a perpetual unless you accidentally die

[pale onyx]

yeah and the billions of humans that die in the guard

over 10k yeaars you would think there was 1

[orchid lark]

Yeah

Anval Thawn

@storm jungle the new space marine 2 stuff

Is it enough for you yet

[random valley]

Space Marine 2?

[green loom]

"They're planning something"
"These beasts? What could they be planning"
"These are but mere drones, something bigger is behind this"
"What could possibly be planning for these things?"
"A worthy foe"
I'm skeptical

[orchid lark]

ill take what i can get

no good living life, complaining too much

[storm jungle]

It showed literally nothing again so

[orchid lark]

lots of stuff for me

[random valley]

[crisp heath]

Just sounds like it's hyping up the Swarmlord, which really wouldn't be a huge surprise

The only other thing I could see is it's chaos again, but it'd be so bad if the plot twist is "Chaos is controlling the tyranids"

[crimson kayak]

Inb4 fucking old one eye is the boss

[crisp heath]

You fought through dozens of stages, epic boss music plays

Cutscene

"you died"

get deathleaper'd

[celest dome]

Old One Eye is a recurring boss

[arctic talon]

That would be funny

[orchid lark]

I do think theyre gonna shoe horn chaos into it somehow

Prolly gonna be stupid but I’ve read dumber shit

[crimson kayak]

I mean, they did it out of nowhere on the first one

They can do it again

Also you know, graia being half chaos corrupted in boltgun

[orchid lark]

Yeah…

Chaos is like

Radiation

Gets to you eventually

[crimson kayak]

That's... Actually the best comparison you could make for warp stuff to real stuff

[orchid lark]

Its like depleted uranium

Youre gonna die even if the big gun missed ya

[crimson kayak]

Constantly present in one way or another, not so dangerous except for specific types, doesn't leave an area without a fuckton of bonification

[orchid lark]

Space Marine 1 was (kinda) Iron Warriors

You think another chaos legion/warband for this one

[crimson kayak]

Was it? Looked more like generic undivided 101

[orchid lark]

Its supposed to iron warriors

But it just seemed like

Nemeroths happy go lucky friends and friends

[storm jungle]

Nah it was just Generic Warband

thats it yeah

[orchid lark]

Little cheeky drop to Graia

Get a power source

And we’re back to medrengard for a pint

Ngl i kinda want Red Corsairs to be the baddies in space marine 2

Pirate Activities

[crimson kayak]

Tbf only ones that could make sense

[orchid lark]

Yaharr we’re here to pillage whilst youre fending off the tyranids

If we get lucky

We’ll see not a pirate captain Huron Blackheart

With his power hook hand and robotic peg leg

And his psychic daemon parrot

And his power claw is his literal firearm

Because of the flamer

[jovial glacier]

Are there any in lore examples of space marines smoking?

[orchid lark]

Smoking is bad

[crimson kayak]

They don't feel any effect of it so I guess no?

[orchid lark]

Dont do it kids

[jovial glacier]

I mean space furries are alcoholics

Why can’t they smoke too?

[orchid lark]

Because its not really integral to anything

[crimson kayak]

Yeah, that alcool is actually infused with venom that literally shuts down their kidneys

[orchid lark]

Also Space Vampires drink wine

Karash

[crimson kayak]

And they have to drink tons of it to stay drunk/drunk-ish

[jovial glacier]

So why can’t someone go to catechan and make the most terrifying blunt ever rolled

[crimson kayak]

Because shutting down your lungs when smoking is not a really good idea lol

[green loom]

I think the sensation just wouldn't click for them

Since their systems are so durable

[orchid lark]

Also they could be busy

[jovial glacier]

Well that’s an answer

[orchid lark]

No time for smoke breaks

[crimson kayak]

Blood wine to be exact

[jovial glacier]

They can’t smoke

[orchid lark]

Monsi said that

As well

[crimson kayak]

Lol

[orchid lark]

Literally the first thing Monsi said

[versed ledge]

So just to sate some strange curiosity, we're mostly against the concept of a servitor right?

A mind wiped, cyborg, "intern"

Because of the price, right?

[summer rover]

what, as a playable character? it'd be a mess. not worth it.

[versed ledge]

I mean it shouldn't be that messy to maintain a servitor

[green loom]

Idk I think most teammates I get are about servitor level

[near wasp]

Same

[versed ledge]

Combat servitor level

[near wasp]

Less than that. I bet the medicae servitor could do a better job than my teammates

[crimson kayak]

Depends on the servitor

[versed ledge]

This, ever notice it's always the bloody veteran mains that rush in and get killed first

[sharp grove]

Thank you! I was imagining a crazy blank weaponising their body. Like a gatling gun that siphons blood into anti-psyker rounds. Very grimdark though sounds more drukhari lol

[storm jungle]

You should read Grey Knight lore

they do exactly this with some of their gear

its fucking hilarous

They use psyker sacrifices for one grey knight bolter round. Hundreds of psykers are killed forging their armor and weapons. Thousands, potentially millions of people die to make one grey knight combat effective.

It was a vast furnace, its every dimension picked out in shimmering lines of light. The sight of it filled Xanthe with revulsion, turning the stomach in her body several decks below. The image was so detailed that Xanthe could shrink her perception and enter it, flitting through its vast vaulted rooms and side chapels. She was drawn to it as if by some appalling gravity of fascination. The pediments of Imperial saints and enormous pipe organ chambers enthralled her, and the yawning maw of the furnace entrance reeled her in as if hooks were latched into her soul.

The cavern of the furnace billowed around her, pure darkness harnessed in the holo-unit's bands of light. Above the furnace, suspended ovre the place where the flames would rage, was a circular platform on which a single suit of armour was mounted on a rack. The armour was beautiful, ornate and massive, too large for a normally-proportioned human. Cables and coils hung everywhere, and servo-skulls hovered ready to manipulate the armour as it was forged.

Xanthe withdrew her mind from the sight. She did not understand why it was at once fascinating and repellent to her. It held meaning, this place, so powerful and concentrated that it affected her even though she did not know anything about it.

The crewmen were talking. Their faces were still cowled by their psychic protection, but their words echoed. Xanthe could not help but listen, even though some cruel precognition told her that she would not like what she heard. Xanthe could not match the voices to the shadowy figures grouped around the map table, but their meaning was clear to her, as if some force wanted her to understand.

'Do they know?'

'Of course they do not.'

'What if they did? It is of no concern anyway. Without them to fuel the forge, the armour's wards will not be imbued with their power. The only concern we have is that the armour is forged and the Grey Knights receive their tithe.'

'The witches are vermin. The galaxy is better off without them.'

'It is a duty we do to mankind. That one Grey Knight fights on is worth a million of these sinners.'

https://tenor.com/view/foekoe-foekoe-gaming-the-greenscreen-room-cats-kitty-gif-21035271

[sharp grove]

Damn at least the Black Ships sacrifice em for humanity itself, not just 1 dude's armour lol. Thanks for pasting that was rad

[storm jungle]

Anytime no worries

a large amount of the fanbase agrees tho that this is very goofy lorewise

[sharp grove]

I think it's ye olde "it's grimdark" handwaving haha

On the other hand, I estimated on the low end that 5 million psykers are born a day so there's plenty to go around :P #40k-lore-chat message

[tough haven]

There’s no analogue to skaven in 40k right?

[storm jungle]

Nope

[green loom]

Unless you count the imperium, anyway

[crisp heath]

Remember, Exorcists are cooler than Grey Knights because overcoming chaos through sheer force of will is 1,000 times more badass than just being immune to it because you got good genes and edgy weapons

[random valley]

Question I feel like i slightly remember but why does Horus Heresy armor have those studs and belts on them?

[storm jungle]

Yep they do

thats where they originate from

lemme get a more accurate armor sheet

[random valley]

I know they have them but why do they have them?

[green loom]

"bonding studs"

The "Heresy" pattern isn't really organized

And is usually a catch all term for jury rigged, scavenged garbage

The studs literally hold pieces together

[random valley]

Yeah I know that part but what about the straps?

[storm jungle]

They were designed as an easy repair during the heresy - they also have the advantage that they would deflect solid rounds without allowing them penetration so are usually useful against other space marines.

[random valley]

Ah that makes sense

[storm jungle]

The straps are also Heresy gear

i think they were just THICC cables

[green loom]

It might just be extra fastening or something

[storm jungle]

let me check, Yeah its just power cabling

[random valley]

Also isn’t Primarus helmet just Mk.4 but flattened

[green loom]

It's based on it iirc

[storm jungle]

Its based on it ye

[green loom]

MKX is better because it isn't fucking impossible to draw

[storm jungle]

also easy nostalgia points

gets marine fans to buy that shit

[random valley]

I always just found it odd that it’s based on Mk.4 and not Aquila

[storm jungle]

Aquila is associated with Firstborn

they needed something new and marketable

[green loom]

And different so they could

You know

Sell it separate

[storm jungle]

^

[random valley]

Yeah :( I want more firstborn models

[storm jungle]

Lore doesn't go into these decisions unfortunately

its all about "how can we make people buy this"

[green loom]

Alas their time has passed

[random valley]

Sadly Primaris is more marketable than Forstborn

Which sucks

I mean primarus models are ok

Just not badass

[green loom]

Imo

They're the same thing

One is just shinier

And not as badly proportioned

[random valley]

And more flamboyant

[green loom]

Primaris BT models are probably the peak

[random valley]

We can agree their Dreadnoughts suck though right?

I’d rather be in a boxnaught

[storm jungle]

Primaris suffer a lot from being tacticool

they literally lack the entirety of the brutalist style of the firstborn

those new DRG rocket launcher unit they got is fucking abysmal

[summer rover]

it looks more like a nerf gun than the DRG stuff.

just hangs off the end of another gun like some kinda toy

[random valley]

I forgot what these guys are called thus why it’s a video instead of an image but holy shit these are dumb

Who looked at this and thought it was a good idea?

[green loom]

Redemptors can look great, when it isn't GW making them

[storm jungle]

They are basically the prime example of whats wrong with primaris essentially

way too sleek and way too generic sci-fi

[green loom]

MKX is fine

But

We don't see the same level of ornamentation we used to

I mean just look at old Sternguard vs new Sternguard

[summer rover]

man, it's like they wanted to screw up everything people liked about the classic dreads with that thing.

[random valley]

Exactly that’s why I like firstborn they are so brutalist it’s cool they are practically knights jacked up to 11 and givin full auto m32 grenade launchers

[random valley]

It’s the worst part of the Venerable and Contemptor

[green loom]

Like MKX can be as brutalist as old marines, and Mk7 can be as bland and boring as Primaris
It's just a difference in priorities IG

[storm jungle]

Like look at the difference between these

[random valley]

They look like they’re from different IPs

[storm jungle]

Pretty much

like the reason Astartes stuff looked so packed/compact was due to modelling issues and restrictions sure but it still kinda worked

[random valley]

It looked cool being all compact

[green loom]

They went from making characters, to making foot soldiers

[minor ingot]

Everything is better when it's a mehtal bawks

[storm jungle]

Man i miss old 40k art

[green loom]

I think my style is headed this way

I hope

[random valley]

90s 40K art was the best

[storm jungle]

this is mid 2000's actually

i got an entire vault of it

[random valley]

Both

[green loom]

You can tell, the identity is set here

[random valley]

I just love 90s too

[green loom]

And the Marines aren't in a police brutality parody

[random valley]

Art for firstborn is the best

[random valley]

Hehehe

[green loom]

I've got some firstborn art

[storm jungle]

they are just like me fr fr

[undone zodiac]

I like how 40k art is usually entangled mess of 2 armies shooting point blank

[storm jungle]

yeah its mostly due to marketing

everyone needs to be at the center

[random valley]

Really where?

[green loom]

In fan art probably

Idk if I posteds

[green loom]

Look at the fucking skull

[storm jungle]

I KNOW

[green loom]

No I meant the other image

[storm jungle]

aw damn it

[green loom]

Where it's in the shoulder pad

[storm jungle]

OH YEAH LITERALLY

my guy legit went 💀

[random valley]

Like boom this is badass love 2000s Astra Militarum art

[storm jungle]

I got an HD version of that too

1 sec

[green loom]

It's the only art we have

[random valley]

:)

Yeah

[green loom]

That isn't fan art

Man I need to get busy

Good thing exams end in 2 weeks

[storm jungle]

"Shit's fucked man"

[random valley]

I’m all ready done with school

[green loom]

I'm not

[random valley]

“Game over man game over!”

[green loom]

I have an exam on fucking Sunday

[random valley]

Yikes

[green loom]

Sunday morning at that

Stupid grammar professor....

[random valley]

Man why the fuck are Steel legion so cool

[green loom]

Because they aren't Krieg

And are dapper chads man handling the biggest Waaagh in the galaxy

[random valley]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

Ironic because this is one of the most german Steel Legion depictions

they got the german helmet stripe and some iron crosses on the officers

but at least its not in your face

[green loom]

They don't have armbands

[storm jungle]

💀

[ripe ravine]

yeah I don't see any lightning bolts

so it can't be the most german

[spark falcon]

i have a lil quemstion about dreadnoughts i had for a while

are Contemptor dreadnoughts around in 40k? or is it just the horus heresy sorta timeframe, because looking at the GW site i never noticed the contemptors until i looked at the horus heresy models

[green loom]

[green loom]

All dreads are around

Contemptors are just giga omega rare

Because the Ironclads are generally better for the purpose people get dreaded for

[spark falcon]

ohhhh, alrighty. that makes a lotta sense

[green loom]

The boxy ones are the ones still produced, but oldies will pop up on occasion

Like Carab Culln

[spark falcon]

huh, that's cool

for a lil while i thought it kinda funny how the dreads are either "the body is grafted into a giant tank mech" or "they dumped the marines remains into a man shaped bucket"

[random valley]

And uhhh I guess Rylanor before Istvaan III

[arctic talon]

Carab is in a fucking Leviathan lmao

Which is even rarer

And also drives you insane and kills you

[green loom]

Just like the Redemptors

[arctic talon]

Leviathans are just older lul

[green loom]

I think redemptors do it because they're based on the uhh

[arctic talon]

So they usually carry nastier guns

Onegar

[green loom]

Dunestrider?

[arctic talon]

yeah

[green loom]

Or whatever

[arctic talon]

Dunecrawler

Strider is the funny chicken

[green loom]

Yes

[arctic talon]

also imo the redemptor looks great

[green loom]

The one where the pilot is a skitarii in a literal acid bath and will die

[arctic talon]

its just got its joints

in a really shitty angle

on the GW one

[random valley]

It looks so so dumb

[arctic talon]

its just located next to a reactor

lol

A nuclear

one

[spark falcon]

isnt the funny chicken the iron strider?

[arctic talon]

Yes

Its also the dunestrider

as a catagory

[spark falcon]

ohhh

[ripe ravine]

me over here thinking all dreadnoughts look kinda goofy

[arctic talon]

Ironstrider is the one with guns

I mean they do look goofy

they're boxes lol

[spark falcon]

s'why i love em all

[arctic talon]

and there's no way in hell the redemptor looks goofier

then the gunnaught

This shit is the goofiest dread of all

[ripe ravine]

not enough missiles

[spark falcon]

liek what i said before, man shaped bucket :)

[random valley]

Needs more gun

[arctic talon]

Tbh

The 2 primaris units I hate

are the Go-kart

and the Desolators

everything else is fine imo

or not any goofier then other crap in 40k

[spark falcon]

ᶦ ᵃᶜᵗᵘᵃˡˡʸ ˡᵒᵛᵉ ᵗʰᵉ ᵍᵒ ᵏᵃʳᵗˢ

[ripe ravine]

i've always liked the primaris look but its hard to argue they didn't drop the ball with desolators

[random valley]

Aren’t those the guys with like 3 missile systems one one gun

[ripe ravine]

idk what the design team was thinking

[arctic talon]

yes

they look dumb

Desolators are just

[ripe ravine]

who approved that

[arctic talon]

too much

[random valley]

Dear god

[arctic talon]

on like

one gun

[green loom]

I think the mono choice squads are stupid

[arctic talon]

this thing is a bit silly

but imo the Eldar War Walker

is way sillier

and the old scout sentinel

[spark falcon]

it's a dreadnought without the dying

[arctic talon]

lol

[green loom]

"Marines are a flexible force, with each battle brother capable of filling numerous roles"
"ok so you're entire squad will only have flamers, if you get cut off then good luck"

[random valley]

Like god damn bro there is such a thing as too much gun

[ripe ravine]

not grimdark enough

[spark falcon]

this shit, i fukn love

[arctic talon]

the funny thing is lore wise primaris don't deploy the way they do on tabletop

its fucking hilarious

They deploy in mixed groups

99% of the time

[green loom]

The Invictor has really grown on me

[arctic talon]

but on the tabletop you just have

[random valley]

They look like actual nerf guns

[arctic talon]

the flamer squad

[spark falcon]

and bolters don't?

[random valley]

Yeah

Bolters look less nerfy than those

[spark falcon]

fair they look less like a nerf gun but like... c'mon

[rose thorn]

Stealth dress naught

[summer rover]

the desolation in the name is speaking about the creative team's skills.

[rose thorn]

Dread

[arctic talon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1110651071237460188/1111441475184640041/69343499-a401-4847-8a9e-e6cd8cd3fd0d.png?width=1193&height=671

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1110651071237460188/1111441474924589169/image0.jpg

THE RETURN

[spark falcon]

YOOOOO

[random valley]

BALL

[summer rover]

terrain that tells you it's gonna be a good time

[spark falcon]

the OUCH ORB

[random valley]

Love old terrain

[random valley]

GREEN BALL OF HURT

[spark falcon]

that's the shit rowley sat on in diary of a wimpy kid 2

[arctic talon]

LMFAO

[vale shuttle]

3rd edition cactus 3rd edition cactus 3rd edition cactus 3rd edition cactus

[queen laurel]

Oh warhammer 40k boltgun

That's looks fun

[queen laurel]

I'm definitely getting this when the right time comes

[green loom]

I think you'll be distracted

https://youtu.be/bGojclTI8vQ

[queen laurel]

Right now the only game that really caught my interest

[queen laurel]

LMAO i was sending a picture of that game

[queen laurel]

From what i see from the game play seems very similar from cross out

And twisted metal of course

Definitely up my ally

[rose thorn]

Super Mario galaxy ass cati

[vocal drum]

tfw..that space marine trailer is holding that bolter with 1 hand..

and yet..my char holds it with 2 hands..

AND Still shakes.

[green loom]

Firing a gun without visible recoil is boring and not fun

[crisp heath]

Honestly not sure if I want to buy Boltgun

I have a policy where I don't buy a game unless I'm sure I can get at least an hour of entertainment out of every dollar spent, and from what I understand boltgun is really short with basically no replay value

[arctic talon]

It’s like

10 hours long

Which is a bit short

Also no auto map

Which is a feature in 99% of boomer shooters

Like

It’s absurd there’s no auto map

For a doom styled game

[terse flume]

I do miss it a lot ngl

[rose thorn]

‘I wonder what twitter has to say about this boomer shooter!’

that one tweet

[arctic talon]

Wdym lol

I do enjoy the time I’ve put in

But it is very user unfriendly navigation wise

[rose thorn]

Content warning; stupidity

||guy was saying that bolt gun was unironically saying it was great way to show the positives of genocide and how it should be brought back||

[crisp heath]

Are there any 40k resource management games that aren't mobile? There's got to be at least a bad one, right?

[rose thorn]

Oh let me pull up the game

I forgot it’s name

[arctic talon]

Excuse me what the fuck

[rose thorn]

Yea

[crisp heath]

Most sane twitter blue buyer

[rose thorn]

Warhammer gladius

It’s pretty good

It’s a settlement builder game but warhammer

40k*

[queen laurel]

I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same person who said the tyranids are a representation of the jews

Holy fuck that's stupid

[rose thorn]

‘You see, the eldar represent the lbgtq community’

[crisp heath]

Oh yeah this is actually pretty positively rated

Huh I'll probably buy it while all these deals are going on

Didn't think there actually was a good one

[rose thorn]

It has paradox style dlc where you really only need the dlc for the faction you play

[queen laurel]

They're basically saying that the lgbtq community made the god of all lust lmao

[rose thorn]

Warhammer twitter is a place no sane person should go

[crisp heath]

How long are these skull deals going to last?

[rose thorn]

I think until June 5th?

[queen laurel]

Shame they only released news about speed freeks now

[crisp heath]

Oh fuck the base game is free rn

[rose thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/explaining-gif-22499839

[queen laurel]

Well i signed up for the alpha playtest hopefully i get accepted

I want to see this game before it fully comes out

Surprisingly it's free anyway

[rose thorn]

Warhammer psychos explain how being racist is okay because it’s lore friendly

[crisp heath]

I'm holding out for the Rogue Trader full release rn, other than that I'm not super hype about new Warhammer games

[rose thorn]

Anyone oppose of me sending my WiP ass chapter lore

[queen laurel]

Hey at least you're excited about something it's very hard to do that in the modern-day gaming industry you have to be very cautious

[rose thorn]

I’m so fucking excited

[queen laurel]

No actually i want to read it

[crisp heath]

Only if i get to send my OC after

[rose thorn]

Hell yeah

Loading

There

Fuck

[queen laurel]

Oh damn invisible marines you are thinking some good stuff

[crisp heath]

My guy is named Murderous Skullfricker and he's the chaosiest space marine to ever chaos and he likes to kick children and he eats planets and drinks blood and he's the coolest

[rose thorn]

Lmao

[rose thorn]

The average EC

[queen laurel]

Can i tell my oc

[rose thorn]

Sure

[arctic talon]

yooo

[queen laurel]

I mean i have nothing else to do

[crisp heath]

Sure but he can't top Murderous Skullfricker

[arctic talon]

OC marine chapter lore

[rose thorn]

I need to make chatacters for my chapter

[rose thorn]

I stole them from one of those old ass books with zero lore and random color schemes

Imperial stars <3

Is such a perfect name

I can’t believe It hasn’t been taken yet

[queen laurel]

Ard'Gob the tank Krusher, a giant warboss he once broke a titan's leg with his power claw and he once killed a baneblade using nothing but grenades and his power klaw the Fingers of Mork

[rose thorn]

The average morka male

[orchid lark]

not a painboss, booo

[queen laurel]

Oh that would be his best mate, Worm brain Naggotz

[orchid lark]

good good

my oc orksz (ocrkz) are just Freebooterz

love pirates

[crisp heath]

Less jokingly, I do have an inquistor OC I want to write about. Ordo Hereticus, blank. She basically nabs wounded kriegers off battlefields to build up an honor guard because they're easily impressionable and will do literally anything if you tell them God wants them to. Her whole schtick is that no one ever sees her, only her acolytes, unless she decides to come out and leverage complete and total terror. Like, the moment she shows her face there's a very real risk of making the Night Lords look like kittens.

The whole reason she's so close to Hereticus is because she's more of a living weapon than an inquistor, she just sacrifices kriegers to get her to the middle of massive chaos rituals and her blank aura shuts the whole thing down.

[queen laurel]

Would you guys believe this is one of the warbosses of belongs to my klan that specializes in rescue the Gitkrusherz?

[queen laurel]

God damn

[rose thorn]

A culexus assassin in inquisitor clothing I see

[crisp heath]

(actually the real reason she's hereticus is because the witch hunter aesthetic is siiick)

[rose thorn]

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/920x950/99070108002_CulexusAssassin01.jpg

Imagine getting the face of this

And slapping it onto an inquisitor

With all the gizmos

Maybe not rveurntjng

But totally the face

[crisp heath]

She's not really a fighter herself though, more of a mastermind, moving acolytes and pawns into positions that make it easy for her to use her powers to create an effortless victory. The only weapon she actually carries is an autogun which is more like self defense because in her mind, if she needs to fight herself, she's already failed.

[rose thorn]

Maybe some of that shit on an arm

Oh shit I have work

I need to sleep

[queen laurel]

I see she's the classic "not very skilled on combat but holy crap good luck trying to outsmart her"

[rose thorn]

Imam sleep

[crisp heath]

good nights :3

[queen laurel]

May Gork and Mork bless your dreams

[orchid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-punch-punching-beat-i-will-beat-you-to-death-gif-25117238

[crisp heath]

Yeah, being a blank means people will immediately know what she is, so her whole deal is having other people do all the legwork and then just showing up next to the target psyker or cultist, rendering them powerless, and letting the firing squad finish the job

[rose thorn]

But yeah open to compliments and creteques just direct message me and il@look when I wake up

[orchid lark]

dont forget to correct psykers there, the word you wrote there is technically a slur towards romani folk in the UK

[rose thorn]

Oh shit

OH SHOOOT

I’m dumb lmao

[rose thorn]

Thank you I’ll fix it when I wake up

[crisp heath]

Her rules are "control through fear, never show weakness, never show your hand, and never let an execution become a fight"

[rose thorn]

Actually

I’ll do it now

There

[orchid lark]

[queen laurel]

I'm pretty sure she would pay very well to make use of Ard'Gob's expertise

Which means blowing up certain stuff

And oddly enough saving people

[rose thorn]

There

[orchid lark]

40k fans making OCs be like: What if our OCs fought or worked together, just kidding, unless..

[queen laurel]

It's an Interesting idea

[crisp heath]

Her right hand is also a Krieger she rescued and who quickly became atheist once he was exposed to literally any other way of life than being born and bred for battle, he genuinely thought she was going to execute him when she found out but her stance on the matter is "I don't care if you blaspheme the right God, as long you don't worship the wrong one"

[rose thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/shuffle-cards-gambling-poker-season3-gif-16424776

[rose thorn]

My chapter getting ready to make any major decision

[queen laurel]

A Krieger that isn't suicidal holyshit

I will say it now that Krieger definitely has the longest living record

[crisp heath]

I think more people need to utiilize rogue traders and inquisitor retinues to have characters that break the stereotypes lmao, unlimited power means weirdos

[queen laurel]

Yes you can recruit just about anyone

[crisp heath]

Well you know how I said "rescued"? he isn't exactly alive, more like "on xenos-based life support"

hang on let me open up the fic I never finished

[queen laurel]

Is he using xenos technology to be alive

[orchid lark]

i have so many inquisitors

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/398170876022882306/1065464044087152670/tumblr_oemss2vFND1szv0l9o1_400.gif

[crisp heath]

Kind of

Eirik sat up, watching the machines in his blood knit flesh together, binding life back into his broken body.
"But I am not a man," Eirik said, "Not anymore. I am the Heretic. I am the Xenos. I am the mutant. And for the good of mankind and the honor of my savior, I will cut you down."```

[orchid lark]

got three main fools

and under each is at least another 2 to 3 inquisitors im also writing about

[queen laurel]

I'm going to write Ard'Gob's story and stuff in word

I've just been saving the information on my mind

[orchid lark]

make bullet points on who ardgob is

its easier and fun

[queen laurel]

Yes all of the information i just said came from my mind

[crisp heath]

Or do mind maps! They're super fun and can lead you down creative roads

[queen laurel]

Yes i'm going to start now

[orchid lark]

oh yeah these two

Xanealle is the youngest person in the war council, but helps

[crisp heath]

I don't have any fleshed-out Rogue Trader characters, but I like the idea of having an absolute madlad background character who gets mentioned in my original content.

Like I never really thought too much about him, but I have thought up a guy with a necron harem, a planet he forgot he owned that is pretty much utopian because the Imperium doesn't know it's there, and has faked his death 5 times because it's easier than divorce

[orchid lark]

at first Xanealle got rejected to help the war effort

so she made a red light district on the fortress world, because she managed to convince it would help morale

it did, soldiers gotta relax too

she didnt want to be rogue trader, but was given it to prevent to being assassinated back home

[crisp heath]

Two word: Microwave. Servitor.

Exists because they were tired of getting a hot plate with cold food on it. Doesn't actually prevent this, it just talks and will warn you about it, which the admech decided causes .001% less stress in people's life and therefore is worth pursuing

[placid crown]

With so many regiments in the guard being "themed" is Cadia's theme just "modern"?

[arctic talon]

no they're meant to be like Starship troopers esque

[placid crown]

Did starship troopers come first?

[orchid lark]

Yes

The book came out 1959

But the overall aesthetic

I think after 2000~ thats when sci fi soldier was kinda just

Starship troopers

Like guard models looked

Had a myriad of influences

(Best regiment theme is Mordian, and Vostroya second, and maybe Valhalla and Catachan third)

[silver pollen]

Mordian is dull...

[placid crown]

I think 40k predates the movie but I've got no idea on when Cadia's theme was created

[orchid lark]

3rd edition came out in 1999

Starship troopers movie came out in 1997

And 3rd edition is when they look like what they do now

[green loom]

It's nice that those chest pieces still pop up here and there in lore

[placid crown]

Damn good sourcing m8

[green loom]

Mechanicus when asked about AI

[sleek wigeon]

Savlar Chem-Dogs are my fave regiment, even though they're a penal battalion
love the whole "resourceful guys getting offed by admech because admech are jelly of their weapon modding"

no STCs?

[orchid lark]

the Chemdogs are pretty cool

id put them in my number 4 alongside tallarn and armageddonn

[rough condor]

I have a question about the Necrons

Before biotransference, they were all getting super cancer from their sun right?

Did they not expand their empire before biotransference? Would they not live longer lives away from their sun?

[pale onyx]

the cancer was so strong it passed onto other generations. And so on

even after they ran awaay from it

[rough condor]

oh man, so the whole species bloodline was ruined

[pale onyx]

yeah

[orchid lark]

rigged from the start

https://tenor.com/view/truth-is-the-game-was-rigged-from-the-start-fallout-new-vegas-gif-14316695

[terse flume]

that's kinda interesting actually - so presumably they're like, idk rats or something and they manage a short lifespan with making lots of offspring and not caring if cancer gets you in a few years

also, lol this bit is funny

It was during their military campaigns that the Necrontyr first came into contact with the Old Ones - one of the first sentient races.[1a] As their empire expanded and grew more diverse, tensions between the Dynasties threatened their unity.[4b] Rebellions known as the First Wars of Secession erupted as entire realms fought for independence.[4b][4c] The Triarch - the ruling council of Necrontyr - realised that only the threat of an external enemy would bring unity once more and saw the Old Ones as the perfect subjects for the wrath of their race.

like the whole hate-them-for-eternal-life thing was broadly secondary to them desperately needing to stop killing each other

[crimson kayak]

Basically skaven without the svaken

[terse flume]

and lol it doesn't work because they start getting their asses kicked too hard immediately

The War in Heaven resulted in unspeakable loss of life over scores of generations: The unity of the Necrontyr began to fracture once more, resulting in the Second Wars of Secession.

these guys are endearingly clownish

[pale onyx]

I thought humans were most like skaven, throwing overwhelming numbers at enemies. Treating their citizens like shit. etc.

[orchid lark]

in 40k

everyone is skaven

[pale onyx]

true

[green loom]

They had a full empire and culture before they decided to prick the old ones

Like Trazyn recalls going hunting and stuff

[vale shuttle]

their short lives may have been soul based

like the Necrontyr were so obsessed about their own short and painful lives they may have stained their own souls and caused the thing to come true due to the nature of the immaterium

note: im making this up and am entirely speculating here

[green loom]

Or they were under their sun for so long it's just how they developed and/or it destroyed their DNA

[orchid lark]

Good ole Zahndrekh and his dinners

[terse flume]

they have silly burial rites for people with mayfly life expectancies, so all the tomb etc stuff reflects the fact that the living were a tiny minority constantly building shrines to the dead

[orchid lark]

come on GW give us some titty Phareakhs

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1058456727021965315/1067564431778775050/FDD1DFEB-2CD1-41E7-A3A8-B9838C7EDEB8-1.gif

[vale shuttle]

GW are COWARDS and will not give us female necrons

[green loom]

Would they look any different?

[orchid lark]

yeah

bone titties

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1058456727021965315/1067564431778775050/FDD1DFEB-2CD1-41E7-A3A8-B9838C7EDEB8-1.gif

or maybe

theyll look like Roodaka

[vale shuttle]

female necrons would be indistinguishable as drones but if they were nobles then they could get custom bodies and therefore could have metal booba

[orchid lark]

ye

anything below the nobility didnt get much

just like real life

[rose thorn]

What about the mother of oblivion or what ever her name

Is

The dommy mommy murderer

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Xun'bakyr

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/3/30/MaynarkhNecronOverlord.JPG/revision/latest?cb=20130614052035

[storm jungle]

Thats not her

Xun doesn't have any official art

[storm jungle]

We DO have them in books

but a mini would be great

[rose thorn]

Yeah

[storm jungle]

warhammer going woke smh

for any future readers this is a joke

[rose thorn]

Isn’t necrons like the most woke army

Well unless they are still asleep

[storm jungle]

Basically

the biggest necron population is drones

the nobility meanwhile are literally anything

theres even a trans necron in the Twice Dead King book

[orchid lark]

smh, even dead nobles get more rights than the common person

[storm jungle]

fr fr

[green loom]

This guy looks cool af

[storm jungle]

Hes great, its from the thousand sons codex

[sleek wigeon]

[green loom]

Is that a Raptor

[vale shuttle]

IT'S WARHAMMER NOT WOKEHAMMER

your message reminded me of one of the yikesest posts ive ever seen related to 40k it was just so awful

[pale onyx]

hey guys so in fantasy there's a famous warhammer, sigmars warhammer. Big deal since the universe is named warhammer and its a warhammer of a god. Is there any warhammer like that for 40k?

[storm jungle]

Nope.

Warhammer gets its name from Sigmar's hammer anyway to begin with

[pale onyx]

damn

if only the god emperors sword was a warhammer

[queen laurel]

ah benny, you are about to become a ghoul because swank gave me my fat man back

[green loom]

Ghal Maraz!!

[shadow plover]

Emperor should've had a hammer true that

[vale shuttle]

it should've been called the Warhammer 40000

and when it hit things it should've blown them up into little giblets

and then he uses it to kill idk some daemon and that's the only exerpt we have of the Warhammer 40000 being used

so we get a constant stream of inane speculation about "why didn't the emperor use the Warhammer 40000 more often"

[orchid lark]

warhammer was called rogue trader long ago

or summat

[terse flume]

it was the first warhammer 40k product, to the point it predated the name

iirc

[orchid lark]

RTWH40K

[celest dome]

Did Rogue Trader predate Warhammer Fantasy ?

[vale shuttle]

no

[terse flume]

warhammer 40k's origins were straight up just fantasy in space

which you see with a ton of very early units, eg orgyn

[stuck kindle]

OG rogue trader

[terse flume]

lollin that paul blart had an OG faction

[rough condor]

This is assuming that necron women had booba

[orchid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-the-look-frog-what-did-you-say-gif-8287956

[rough condor]

Aliens man, the anatomy just can't be expected to be normal

[crimson kayak]

Sooo... Is it just me or the knights from daemonhunters are smol?

[rough condor]

Especially with genetically imprinted super sun cancer

[crimson kayak]

Oh no wait, they are just chaos armingers... Still thought they would be bigger

[orchid lark]

smol

[crimson kayak]

Also we are this close to getting an actual kill team tactics game now that even the guard shows up in missions

[green loom]

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/13sbrv2/lore_bits_about_the_opening_of_the_4th_tyrannic/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

The guard finally gets to do stuff!!!

I'm happy Leontus is actually being used

Instead of being like Ursula or other random chars that are made models and then just disappear

[storm jungle]

She's getting a book

[green loom]

Guard stay winning

[storm jungle]

the issue with these new characters is that they just pop out of thin air, so they basically just got no lore

[green loom]

I like that Guard/Custodes are the main players in the 4th war

I do wonder what the hell Severus is doing on the other side of the Galaxy though, when he's supposed to be in Northern Ultramar dealing with the Nurglites

[orchid lark]

old man dad told him to be useful

[green loom]

Anyway

WOOOO guard

[crimson kayak]

Oh shit white templars get lore

And of fucking course it's their planet getting fucked over by nids lol

Anyway, happy for the guard, but by the looks of it it's the Solblades fleets doing most of the work

[green loom]

Ye and Leontus is in charge of at least one of those

[plush mason]

ngl i was more exited for the guardsmen than i was for the chaos armingers

[plush mason]

who?

[crimson kayak]

One of the random Templar chapters

[plush mason]

im just imagining a reverse color scheme black templar

[crimson kayak]

More or less

They got absolutely no lore until at one point gw went and said "LOL nope you are not imperial fist successors"

Wich with their stoic and relentless nature of fighting and white/grey scheme, makes you really wonder who else it could be lol

(Spoiler it's most probably gonna be Iron Warriors)

[green loom]

Oh man

Titus' new voice is

Err

[sleek wigeon]

tbh I wonder whats happening with white scars

would be nice to see the Khan an his boyz come out the warp to krump some nids

[crimson kayak]

They got the iron hands syndrome

[sleek wigeon]

I'd know
love me iron hands :_(

[plush mason]

didnt know they had released new footage

[green loom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBGt1JP0NTA

[plush mason]

oh yeah. thats gona take some time to get use too

[crimson kayak]

Those ai marines too didn't look too good tbh

Also is it me or the normal bolter he's using looks different from the cawl pattern?

[plush mason]

most of the trailer it looks like he is walking around with some kind of heavy bolter

[crimson kayak]

No yeah I mean at the start

[plush mason]

yeah thats what i mean

[crimson kayak]

At 0:20 to 25 more or less you see a normal hand held weapon being shooted

[plush mason]

ahh

[crimson kayak]

As it has a different animation than the heavy bolter firing at the end

[plush mason]

yeah i see

[crimson kayak]

Dunno the ironsights reminded me of the hammerburst from gears

[uneven temple]

Ai marines look more or less like marines

Though the bar they have to clear is quite low, sidonus'/leandros' ai was hot garbage in 1

[storm jungle]

Its bad

like you really cannot replace Mark Strong

[green loom]

They could've

Literally

Probably gotten James Workshop's VA

And actor

[queen laurel]

I admit it's literally a pale imitation of a legend

[green loom]

But instead they got Rollo from Vikings and he sounds like some teen on Xbox live larping as a marine

[storm jungle]

Yeah like Mark is literally a great and very prominent actor

then you just get this rando

who i never heard of

[random valley]

It’s not great

[queen laurel]

Look i applaud the guy for trying but you just cannot top original

[storm jungle]

Yep

[queen laurel]

There's a certain level of power and command that makes you believe in titus

[storm jungle]

Strong's voice is too memorable

[queen laurel]

This voice doesn't do that

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/kingsmen-kingsman-no-this-is-mine-rifle-merlin-gif-4989402

[green loom]

Topping it is one thing but

You could at least not suck at VAing by default

[storm jungle]

hes not bad hes just VERY Generic Marine™️

[green loom]

As I said they could've gotten the James guy who has a similarly deep voice

[queen laurel]

Oh yes then he is terrible

[green loom]

I mean fuck the guy voices Ghaz in audiobooks

[queen laurel]

[queen laurel]

Wait, the person voicing titus in the new space marine game voiced ghaz in the audio books?

[green loom]

No

[queen laurel]

Oh my bad

[green loom]

You know this guy?

He does VOs for Ghaz and lots of Orks

[queen laurel]

So this guy is THE ork voice

[green loom]

https://youtu.be/P2hmeetI8ww

[green loom]

According to an interview with Bell of Lost Souls yes, he voices a ton of stuff for audiobooks iirc

https://www.goonhammer.com/the-goonhammer-interview-steve-conlin-james-workshop/

This is da interview

[storm jungle]

Orks are great for the swearing part

especially since Fuck/Fucking is Zog/Zogging

[green loom]

He meant this

[storm jungle]

Lmao

[green loom]

Though ig he might be preoccupied with wrestling

[remote fable]

I've been thinking about vashtorr. I think it'd be funny if Vashtorr adopted a race that could lead it to godhood.

It would need to be a race that reproduces at least as fast as humanity, and were at least as twisted as it

Also, it would have to be a sneaky race, to bypass the Imperium scrutiny, at least until they are ready to make a big impact. Maybe once they've infiltrated enough cities and worlds and have enough people.

They would need to also be entirely devoted to himself, and no to other gods/power since vashtorr doesnt align with any warp entities, so if he could instill a heavy dose of paranoia and a lack of work outside of intimidation, that could work.

Then, if we take into consideration the fact he is 'allied' to Abaddon, it would need to be a race that can be really good at playing the cloak and dagger game, particularly when dealing with chaos entities but in general are a bunch of lousy dealmakers.

Then, to reach godhood he'd need a number. Since 6, 7, 8, 9 are already taken, and 11 is Malice's. And he is Chaos Undivided, so he'd take the next prime number, which would be 13 I think. Good enough. No other god uses the number 13, nope.

Talking about Chaos Undivided, this race would need to be adept at and willing to employ all kinds of stuff to keep up as they dint hsve their own true warp boons. Cant rely on brute force so theyd rely on Stealth, chemical warfare, mutation (they are chaos, after all) innovation, and regimental warfare, at the very least. Vashtorr loves innovation.

Finally, since vashtorr is the progenitor to the Forge of Souls, he could maybe gift some of it's materials to his most devoted followers. As a sort of boon as he can't really work souls like the other warp gods. Some sort of crafting ingredient to help them innovate. Maybe some warp steel, or even a stone of some sort

[green loom]

Vashtorr steals Bile's new human project.mp4

[uneven temple]

I scrolled for 3 years trying to get to the bottom of that novel

Tell me more about vashtorr

[crimson kayak]

Isn't Vashtoor way to archieve immortality using the weapon to kill off humanity?

[green loom]

Le shroog
Don't care about the Vashtorr plot

[crimson kayak]

Also Vashtoor does have boons he can give

[celest dome]

Neither will GW in 1 year

[remote fable]

I was hinting at vashtorr being the way they could bring skaven to 40k

[crimson kayak]

Strangely enough the Hrud are mentioned again apparently in the new nids thing

[green loom]

Not everything has to be interconnected and rehashed aaaaaa

[storm jungle]

Why would Vashtorr even be associated with Skaven

[green loom]

Skaven are one part cool concept and 3 parts bad plot device

[celest dome]

Because Fan lore is ever competing to be worse than GW lore
Mostly fail though

[green loom]

I love my Stormvermin

But they as a faction are pretty trash

[celest dome]

Their lore is mostly atrocious

[rose thorn]

Lmao

Pls if people wanna play skaven they would play skaven lmao

[celest dome]

AY it's Mag, how you doing

[rose thorn]

Gooood

How is you

[green loom]

I recently saw a homebrew of Stormcasts as a 40k chapter

It's er

Yes

[celest dome]

Well plenty of people Kitbashed Skaven-Admech

[rose thorn]

Yea which is cool

[celest dome]

Stormcast to SM i suppose

[green loom]

You can count the bad tropes

[rose thorn]

Is BT using a loop hole

[green loom]

Yes

I mean

Sort of

[rose thorn]

Or do they just not care??

[green loom]

It's not really a loophole anyone can use

iirc it's the whole "Eternal Crusade" thing