40k-lore-chat

[vale shuttle]

Okay. Okay, chat - chat - CHAT I'M NOT COMMUNING WITH THE SWORD.

It's EVIL you IDIOTS.

Ahahaha...okay, okay, okay I'll do it.

[orchid lark]

The autarchs

I dont like them

Okay

[celest cedar]

Jerma when he sees a wrecked ship

[vale shuttle]

nah you'vce gotta add jerma's trademarked repetitions

"The autarchs - I don't - I don't like them, okay?!"

[crimson kayak]

He just gotta go to his mental special place to stave off Khorne corruption after all

[green loom]

Aminaaminaaminaamina

[echo vault]

I mean is there a warhammer character most like jerma (besides farsight)

[vale shuttle]

uhhhmmm

[celest cedar]

"If I were to put you in a meat grinder....

[vale shuttle]

jerma's like a normal guy whose been corrupted by his chat

so like any chaos cultist

[orchid lark]

Jerma is a psyker

[vale shuttle]

jerma is an ELITE ALPHUS PLUS psyker

[orchid lark]

But doesnt know about it

[vale shuttle]

yess

[green loom]

His commissar handler is called Ster

[vale shuttle]

no he has no handler

[crimson kayak]

Also btw let's all remember that the orks in farsight book are the winners

[echo vault]

He'd have to be a blank solely for the comedic value like jurgen to caiphus cain (ster)

[vale shuttle]

do you think the guy whose constantly talking to his chat has a handler?

he's too powerful to control

[orchid lark]

He is his own handler

The necklace choker he thought was nice

[celest cedar]

is Jerma you know? Human?

[orchid lark]

Was just a null collar

He’s a substitute teacher

Obviously not human

[crimson kayak]

Jerma is just a Callidus in disguise

[orchid lark]

Jerma is the perfect Kaldor Draigo

[vale shuttle]

jerma is a regular guy who was gaslit by his chat into thinking he was crazy, which then made him a wacky digital clown

[crimson kayak]

Wait... So it's abaddon?

[vale shuttle]

no, jerma does not have the strength of will to hold together the armies of chaos

he's more like horus

[celest cedar]

You mean first name Horus? Last name Heresy?

[green loom]

Jerma vs Star is the jermaverse Horus heresy

[vale shuttle]

yes, Horus Heresy also known as "The Warhammer 40000"

[crimson kayak]

I mean chats do sound like word bearers so it checks out

[vale shuttle]

any sufficiently large twitch chat will act like a cult of demon worshiping psychos

it's why im 80% sure that if i were to go into jerma's chat and say "When's the piss stream Jerma, you promised?" his entire chat would be going "piss stream when?" "piss stream when?" "you promised jerma"

[celest cedar]

I remember that time Horus Heresy asked God Emperor "Name all 39999 warhammers, or I will heresy on Terra"

unforunately

God Emperor could not name all 39999 warhammers

[vale shuttle]

i remember that time where horus was standding over the emperor's body and he was like "Tell me, tell me the secret of the Warhammer!" and the Emperor replied: "It's you, Horus Heresy, YOU are the Warhammer 40000!"

[crimson kayak]

"I destroyed all my warhammers to make you, the true Warhammer 40000"

[celest cedar]

And in that time Sergeant Major Morrow was there, his last words before he disappeared can be heard

he said:

"Never you mind, it aint good asking questions like that"

[crimson kayak]

I swear I heard a new voiceline about morrow being deployed in yet another warzone

[green loom]

You like Warhammer? Name every hammer

[vale shuttle]

uhhh beak hammer

...polehammer

morningstar

...eveningstar

bec du corbain

mace

sledgehammer

[celest cedar]

He was at Macragge I hear

Heavy warhammer

Light warhammer

[vale shuttle]

kinda heavy warhammer

[celest cedar]

Medium Warhammer

[vale shuttle]

rare warhammer

[celest cedar]

Plasteel Warhammer

[vale shuttle]

Plasteel Warhammer (Poor) 78%

[celest cedar]

I trust you are pleased, Varlet Warhammer

[crimson kayak]

Yeah, but last time I heard it was a place with an X?

Xanathos or something like it idk

[celest cedar]

oh its the Xanathros purgation

Genestealers they say

[crimson kayak]

O that's the genestealer one?

[celest cedar]

yes

who would believe this one

[crimson kayak]

Oh yeah because sole survivor of a ship stuck in warp travel it's more believable lol

[celest cedar]

at least that explains the centuries of lifespan

[echo vault]

I'm imagining this video is legit how the Draigo Mortarian fight went, like Jerma Draigo (Drerma, Jraigo) laughing at mortarian fucking up nonstop and nurglings slamming into walls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0fm2lRrEg0

[crimson kayak]

Chaos Gate Daemonhunters storyline be like

[echo vault]

Draigo just losing his shit laughing as the horde of great unclean ones toss nurglings at him and fail constantly

[storm jungle]

Hate Grey Knights

[near wasp]

I dont care very much for the grey knights but they currently are my pcs wallpaper

[vale shuttle]

grey knights were just the very special boys before the custodes were released

which makes them very funny because their niche of "the most specialist space marines ever" has now been invalidated lmao

[storm jungle]

👉 #40k-minis-and-armies

[coarse pumice]

here's some lore from it then:

guardians basically have veteran battle experience

[green loom]

That would be the war masks i think

[vivid turtle]

is the armory guy a servitor?

i honestly can't tell if hes that or just a very fucked up looking admech

[green loom]

They're servitors

[winter vessel]

When a Psyker starts listening to the voice in their head:

[rose thorn]

oh hey didnt pre 8th prism cannons have linked fire?

[coarse pumice]

linked fire has changed over the years

[rose thorn]

ah

[coarse pumice]

I think it might be different in every codex it's been in

[orchid lark]

is linked fire

twin linked?

[rose thorn]

OH yeah question, i see star reading and shit in some 40k lore, can someone shed more detail on this witchy stuff? I want star reading and imperial tarot to be a large part of my chapter's culture

[coarse pumice]

no, linked fire was a fire prism thing where you could fire through another fire prism if you had multiples

it's changed exactly what it does in each edition though

when it first appeared, you could use it to give up a shot to upstrength/ap a shot, which could be handy for dispersed as it made it go from wounding multiple marines under a template on a 3+, while they keep a 3+ save to wounding on a 2+ with no save at all

and while you gave up the shot, you could reroll missed hits if you used the ability

[crimson kayak]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Emperor's_Tarot

[rose thorn]

Yeah dont worry i read through all of that multiple times lmao

[crimson kayak]

Oh ok lol, I linked it because it's a pain to explain

[rose thorn]

i think each of my companies will be called after an imperial tarot

[crimson kayak]

The tl:Dr it's basically you are asking the emperor's 8 ball in the form of tarot cards

[rose thorn]

YAyyy

also uh, hammer and bolter confirms they literally work

[crimson kayak]

As the tarots are psychically connected with whatever shard of the mind of the emperor is on the line at the moment

[crimson kayak]

I mean, you are asking the most powerful Psyker in existence for clairvoyance, not that much of a feat if you don't consider the eternal pain and suffering of the Golden Throne

[rose thorn]

also that either that specific assassin is a pyker or anyone can use them

[crimson kayak]

Only specially trained Psykers can read them well if I remember right

[rose thorn]

so hammer and bolter, why did a callidus assassin be able to use one

[crimson kayak]

Probably retcon

As Theomancers are from dark heresy

So third party material so malleable canonicity

[rose thorn]

ah

oh yeah im making my lore that my chapter's home plant orbits a purple sun that causes pykers to be more common, is there any lore issues with that?

[crimson kayak]

In case of "no reasonable explanation" break the "Warp bullshit" glass

[rose thorn]

yAY

im not sure if my chapter should try to fulfil visions no matter what or like star readings

[crimson kayak]

Ah yes, the decision between standard and reasonable marines

[rose thorn]

LMao

[crimson kayak]

Personally I like the whole "fill shit no matter what" if there's good reason for it

[rose thorn]

their entire culture is built around future reading

and liek the one time they didnt follow it

they hella ate shit

[crimson kayak]

Maybe the planet could have an higher presence of crystal wafers used to make tarots

[rose thorn]

OOOO perfect

[crimson kayak]

And the culture there would be based more around those

[rose thorn]

oh yeah also apart of the right of passage for joining the chapter is that your tarot fortune will be drawn and then you have that tattooed onto you

[green loom]

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/ocjrq5/excerptcadian_blood_raven_guard_treating_an/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

The tarot is taken seriously by Muhreens

[rose thorn]

imagine being the one guy that has the daemon, the warp renegade, the eye of horus, and the despoiler

just across your chest

oh yeah my cahpter is the imperial stars

Hey what’s ‘the silver door’ a reference to?

[orchid lark]

ngl that sounds fucking awesome

[orchid lark]

lexicanum says its the door to the emperors throneroom apparently

[rose thorn]

Thanks!

and that’s why my chapter’s armor is that color of purple, to match their sun

my chapters name and colors are taken form one of those ‘random list of x colorschemes

Based off the ark of omens (and hammer and bolter) it seems that the imperial tarot also includes classic tarot cards

[storm jungle]

its basically just normal tarot with extra cards yeah

[rose thorn]

Baller

I should probably actually crack open my google doc page and start writing shit lmao

[storm jungle]

🫵

[orchid lark]

hell yeah

started on my tyranid minor hive fleet

[rose thorn]

Oooo baller

[orchid lark]

after learning the name of the whale that messed up the roman fleet

Hive Fleet Porphyrios

[storm jungle]

We all know the true starting guide of any Tyranid homebrew

[orchid lark]

they already got Naga

which means Dragon in my language

so I gotta rep that too

[rose thorn]

Lmao

https://tenor.com/view/explaining-gif-22499839

The imperial stars explaining to the inquisition why they were forced to aid the black legion attack an important planet

(The cards said so)

[obsidian pollen]

is there any precedent for a psyker to use a force staff like it was kung fu

[jovial glacier]

Misclick

[storm jungle]

Are you talking gameplay wise or in the lore

[upbeat dagger]

whats up with the "buzzing" that psykers, daemonhosts, and traitor captains talk about

[storm jungle]

As in buzzing

since, you know

they are psychic

and shit literally talks to them

[orchid lark]

headaches

[storm jungle]

Basically

smash your head to a table

and you'll see what we mean

I have tried this many times

[obsidian pollen]

lore

canon

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/speedball-cannon-gif-18004290

[obsidian pollen]

i want kung fu psyker

[storm jungle]

also yes there is

if you want to you can make one but its pretty niche

[obsidian pollen]

so ur saying theres a chance

[storm jungle]

its 40k

theres ALWAYS a chance

[obsidian pollen]

hmmm

heretic

[storm jungle]

Yes.

get shaolin'd

[green loom]

Try brick wall

[orchid lark]

Eisenhorn did some jedi bullshit movements with a force sword

force staffs can definitely be just force bo staffs

[green loom]

Force quarterstaff

[obsidian pollen]

who do i look up in 40k that knows kung fu

or some 40k variant of it

[green loom]

Figure most of the schola are taught martial arts

Alternatively, make them up

[obsidian pollen]

can fatshark do that

just make up their own or do they have to follow someone elses ideas

[celest dome]

They can make up their ideas but GW has to agree with the idea

[obsidian pollen]

so theres a chance

ty

[green loom]

You can make up martial arts and everything

Planets be giga varied

[celest dome]

Force Staves do have a melee template in the TT iirc, but not really something I'm waiting for

[orchid lark]

bayonet combat technically a martial art

[winter vessel]

When you think about it, the art of Bayonet combat surviving up to 40,000 years? It’s kinda impressive

[orchid lark]

Spear combat (arguable) has been around since the dawn on mankind

[crimson kayak]

I mean, when half the universe goes melee, you gotta learn somehow

[terse flume]

before then, actually. proto human ancestors were the first to carry spears, the human race was born with it in hand

[summer rover]

since the dawn of time, we been pokin'

[rose thorn]

Hey is there a lore reason space marine don’t really wear anything on their heads besides helmets

Like smh where’s the head band marines

[arctic talon]

No

[rose thorn]

They just have no fashion sense I see

Oh yeah space marines don’t sweat

So they wouldn’t need like those head bandanas or anutning

[remote widget]

Why is eisenhorn dealing with chaos all the time. He's order xenos and he's barely done a single xenos thing across the trilogy

[minor ingot]

Because Dan Abnett said so

[remote widget]

Also, why is he being tortured by a horse furry

[minor ingot]

Because Dan Abnett said so

[crisp heath]

Ordos don't strictly stick to their preferred prey

The first inquisitor to respond to a threat usually deals with it, and will probably alert the relevant ordo but will continue to pursue on their own

They only really pull back or wait for backup if they're in waaaay over their head, and by the time Eisenhorn realized he was he was chained up on a gladiator pit

[remote widget]

Ahhhh

And he never switched ordos as malleus and hereticus were just full of dickheads I'm guessing

[storm jungle]

Its mostly because Abnett said so as said above

Inquisitors can track other threats but its probably entirely because Abnett just wanted to write about chaos constantly

[remote widget]

Behold, a puritan inquisitor....

[storm jungle]

holy shit

[minor ingot]

And then he wraps it around and when he's writing about a malleus inquisitor, He's fighting aliens

[storm jungle]

its Beta Ray Bill from the critically acclaimed Marvel Comics

[storm jungle]

Eh still too little too late at that point

its like he remembered Eisenhorn is suppose to be Xenos lol

[minor ingot]

Oh I'm not talking about eisenhorn, lol.

Oh yeaaah, the one time eisenhorn actually fights aliens they're also like, chaos aligned

Lol

[storm jungle]

GOD

PAIN

[storm jungle]

Oh man sorry i completely misread

thinking about Eisenhorn just threw my mind into an PTSD/Alcoholic loop

[minor ingot]

Lol

[crisp heath]

Abnett be like: she boobed soullessly down the stairs

[storm jungle]

something-something

"Skintight suit"

[minor ingot]

Cue to a solid 2 pages of describing how much eisenhorn wants to simp, but can't

[storm jungle]

Lmao god

as much as I love Eisenhorn it legit hasnt aged well in some places

[crisp heath]

Eisenhorn be like "no bequin you have to pretend to be my wife it is of vital importance to our mission"

[minor ingot]

Yeah same. It's definitely like a mind-blowing teen book but when you get older you're like "damn this is kinda dumb lol"

Ravenor was a way better trilogy than Eisenhorn ngl

[storm jungle]

100%

totally not because im biased and he looks hot

also ponytail

before he turned into BBQ'd Professor X

[crisp heath]

Anyway Amberley Vail is the best inquistor because she's like a homophobic wine aunt

[storm jungle]

[minor ingot]

We simp for blonde xeno mommy

And she actually fights aliensw

Which is a big W

[crisp heath]

I want to read Amberley's dogshit takes on twitter

[minor ingot]

I want to subscribe to her onlyfans

[green loom]

See I'm free of these opinions, I don't read books

My lore is cold and chronicled, unfettered by narrative drama and context

[minor ingot]

I bet you play necrons

[green loom]

I don't play anything

I am based and don't give geebledubz any moner

[minor ingot]

Based matey, just play online like me with totally normally aquired 60 dollar codex pdfs

Tabletop sim isn't real and can't hurt GW

[green loom]

Yeah but numbers are boring and confuse me so I just play league of legends instead

[minor ingot]

I thought you were cool damn

[astral whale]

Cain totally subscribed to that onlyfans.

[remote widget]

Just finished book three, technically he respects cherubael's pronouns,

Been listening while building somme oldhammer

Whoever designed the build manual for the valkyrie deserves the ministrations of the inquisitions finest interrogators and Flencers

[orchid lark]

The Blankussy

Eisenhorn was definitely a different story before it got 40kfied

Flying cars is a major thing in Eisenhorn

[echo vault]

The defining feature of most space marine chapter masters is that they want to die and make it seem like an accident (Dante, Calgar maybe)

[orchid lark]

Leadership is a burden

When the conflict is unending

And whatever Avitus goes on about in his betrayal

[arctic talon]

Civilian hover tech isn’t that rare lore wise

The stuff used for combat is pretty valuable and hard to replicate

Mostly because it can take a beating

[undone zodiac]

Shame of killing loyal imperials and being praised for it

[celest dome]

Just depend on the specific world. Necromunda has some with the Esher gang and in theory Van Saar

Did they even release Van Saar vehicle ?

[shadow plover]

There are those green goblin gliders for them at least

[celest dome]

Yeah, but they aren't for the Ash Waste module iirc

And still think House Cawdor should have had Servitor vehicle, kinda like the Skitari Dragoon

[crimson kayak]

Escher have flying bikes

[green loom]

Yeah because they live in a crashed dark age ship

[coarse pumice]

Goliaths are uge

Bigger than marines

[crimson kayak]

Yep, except the generic Ridgehauler the only vehicles are Esher flying bikes, Goliath brute bikes from halo, orlock buggies and cawdor chickens

Also the nomads insect riders if you count them

[celest dome]

So what should the Vann Saar and Delague get

[crimson kayak]

Considering Van Sarr have goblin gliders something on that line

Maybe even actual repulsor tech

[green loom]

\oh wait I mixed up escher and van saar

[crimson kayak]

Escher get thesr

[orchid lark]

shits awesome

better looking than custodes ones thats for sure

[crimson kayak]

Delaque I don't really know what vehicle they would get

Considering their whole theme is "spy"

[orchid lark]

black helicopters

[green loom]

They need bond supercars

[crimson kayak]

And I'm pretty sure they are also genestealers

But that's just a theory

[orchid lark]

nah just bald

[crimson kayak]

And psychically linked

[orchid lark]

its the baldness

[crimson kayak]

Run by a nobility that no one has seen

[green loom]

With two serpents as their icon

[crimson kayak]

Oh no wait, the silent ones are Gods apparently now that I'm reading about them?

[green loom]

Even more proof

[crimson kayak]

Oh ok, nono

The Delaque were just unseen xenos species 10472

And they made the gestalt consciousness stuff

House Delaque just stole the name and stuff

Well, looking at their models Delaque too can go full futuristic with their psychic stuff

Imagine this but bigger

[green loom]

Delaque lore is pretty cool

[crimson kayak]

Or dune size psycotheric wyrms lol

[vale shuttle]

funny meme i made

[storm jungle]

Better than half the things i see in #darktide-memes

[vale shuttle]

fuck, im sorry, i didn't mean to make such a bad meme

i was aiming for 80%

[coarse pumice]

are the random hive scum inspired by the old confrontation miniatures?

[crimson kayak]

Confrontation miniatures?

Dafuq are those

[storm jungle]

is this another 1950's miniature nobody but posei remembers from rogue trader

[vale shuttle]

yeah

[celest dome]

Which random Hive scum ?

[coarse pumice]

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/necromunda-hive-scum-2022

[storm jungle]

no

they are just random underhive gangers

[coarse pumice]

the scavvy gangs were even more dishevelled than I remember

I don't think these ever got released

[celest dome]

I don't see any similarity

[storm jungle]

underhivers also got pretty generic looks

so yeah, theres no connection

[coarse pumice]

lol one of the other gangs

the cover of it (even though I don't think Marines were ever in or meant to be in the game)

[shadow plover]

Saved this

[vale shuttle]

make sure to repost it and do your part

[crimson kayak]

Necromundan Marines

also fucking gangers going at him with what's basically flintlocks

[celest dome]

Necromunda does have Imperial Fist on planet

[crimson kayak]

yeah but being a recluiting world it's not the same as "that chapter culture is based on this particular's world culture"

[storm jungle]

aka detroit

[crimson kayak]

i mean, this is the same universe where Birmingham is a planet

[storm jungle]

Thats the joke

[crimson kayak]

the joke was the warhammers we made along the way

[echo vault]

This is the most obvious judge dredd 40k art I've ever seen

[echo vault]

True, it's the shoulderpad that says necromunda that screams dredd more especially with the buildings in the back

It's just mega city one

[storm jungle]

I mean its all completely ripped off

so yeah

[vale shuttle]

dilara seeing someone get oddly defensive when the imperium are called nazis is very funny

also seeing a bunch of people reply "HERESY" in the reacts to emperor dying picture is also funny

[storm jungle]

That was great

[storm jungle]

Honestly my favorite part was

"The writers havent been portraying the Imperium like that for awhile"

Literally still committing atrocities in every book

[vale shuttle]

tell me you haven't read a 40k book without telling me you haven't read a 40k book

i listened to lords of silence recently and they talked about how the imperium is constantly tricking hive folk into moving onto agri-worlds whereupon they are trapped in a hellblasted world full of toxic fumes from fertilizers and gruelling work details until they die

the imperium is bad guys, it's not a hot take

[storm jungle]

I mean that doesnt even or should be needed to be said

every book opening reminds the reader this lol

[vale shuttle]

the imperium is good actually because of moral relativism.you see in 40k everyone is bad so it's cool that the imperium does genocide and kills those filthy minorities xenos. i am very intelligent.

[storm jungle]

this is basically me me in every convo this is brought up in

[vale shuttle]

unforrtunately i havent played gta so i got no idea who these folks are but i definitely vibe with it lmao

[storm jungle]

Lmfao all fine

[near wasp]

All you had to do was follow the damn train cj

[storm jungle]

Average Chasm Terminus Mission

[orchid thicket]

The Imperium is good because of moral absolutism. The moral superiority of the human race trumps the moral quality (or lack thereof) of the minority xenos. Hence, whatever the Imperium does against xenos, is justified.

[vale shuttle]

that's a very healthy attitude to have

[orchid thicket]

Remember - no matter what happens, the Emperor loves you.

[crimson kayak]

You are on the wrong side of the station

[remote widget]

Is this ai generated or a shitpost, throw in your votes please?

Nvm, discord deep-fried it, it seems

[green loom]

The grammar seems screwed up

Also hes eating promethium

And idk about you but eating petrol doesn't usually end well

[storm jungle]

I'm gonna go with Yesn't

[orchid lark]

AI ?

thats a block

https://tenor.com/view/cat-punch-punching-beat-i-will-beat-you-to-death-gif-25117238

[storm jungle]

AUGHH-

[hallow saddle]

It's perfect 40k mate, nice one

[green loom]

The only AI I like is the voice deepfakes because they funny when done right

[orchid lark]

nah cant support that either

[storm jungle]

Finally some update on Mordia

Reads

Entirely about Space Marines and nothing about the regiment

[orchid lark]

Mordians

known for having a baneblade or super heavies equivalents for every company per battalion

still needed space marines

[green loom]

Notice also

It's only marine fleets

Fighting marine fleets

No Navy

No mention of Mordian regiments

God I love 40k writing

[orchid lark]

A hive world with constant gang wars

the gangs are not there

[storm jungle]

Actually yeah Ed makes a great point

its literally just space marines

[green loom]

Yeah it's traitoro buzz lightyears vs loyalisto lightyears

[orchid lark]

no retaking surface to space weapon batteries

[green loom]

They use words like "armada" and shit

[orchid lark]

just kill me

[green loom]

When the battle is maybe 1k marines at most

Since it's one Clan from the IH

And a few other IH succs

[orchid lark]

succ

[green loom]

Vs a "big" coalition of

3 warbands

From one of the most fractured legions

I mean this is still better than some fan stuff I've read

But that doesn't say much kek

[orchid lark]

some 40k fiction

is just

super biased for one faction

GuardBros

and Space Marine weirdos

[green loom]

provided guard even get lore and aren't replaced by irrelevant marine chapter number 555

[orchid thicket]

Damn that's a really generous allotment of superheavies

[orchid lark]

its supposed to be some weird number

like bunch of leman russ tanks or some shit

as well

[summer rover]

excerpt about mordia
no mention of the guard
90% of the excerpt happens off-planet because spess marmems were cockslapping each other to show off
mordia's name mis-spelled as mordian at the end of the excerpt

[summer rover]

every time they write something like this, they should release a new guard mini to apologize. we'd have a mordian regiment in two years.

and an armageddon one i like....a week.

[arctic talon]

lol

[minor ingot]

New lore bad

[remote widget]

Why isn't Tuska daemonkillah a krork yet?

[minor ingot]

Rogue trader good

Space marines were dogshit the moment they got rid of beaks

[remote widget]

Is it because gork and mork don't like him chilling with Khorne

[minor ingot]

Gork and Mork aren't even real

Source: GW never does anything with them

[remote widget]

https://youtu.be/8tqi2QCL7Co

You'll like this then @minor ingot

[storm jungle]

Because he's just a throwaway character for a codex blurb

also because he dies constantly

you need to live long to be a krork

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-skill-issue-gif-22125481

[storm jungle]

Space Marines were always dogshit

get em outta ere

[arctic talon]

they get mentioned in the funny codex

[remote widget]

Auramite over ceramite any day!

[minor ingot]

Honestly they grew on me as I got older, which is like the opposite of what happens. I got into the game as a guard player and now I enjoy me some angels of death

But holy shit are primaris marines dumb

[remote widget]

What about the new termie primaris?

[minor ingot]

Post a pic

I still think primaris is dumb in principle

They just wanted to redesign marines, they didn't need to do all this dumb halo dime serial novel primaris crap lol

[echo vault]

How do they eat with the mask welded to their face

[storm jungle]

They don't.

next question

[remote widget]

Terminators got afflicted with the "tru-scale" curse

[rose thorn]

I know it wouldn’t work in the lore and it would make 1k son players depressed

But I want a unit of pykers for space marines

Not a single model

[storm jungle]

the closest you'll get is Grey Knights

[celest dome]

Have you seen people in hospital that get fed through a tub, just like that

[celest dome]

Kinda like a Wyrdwane Psyker but SM ?

[rose thorn]

Like a squad of pykers

[echo vault]

Do they stick it through an eye hole

[celest dome]

No, usually through the nose, but if that's not possible it's put in the belly

[echo vault]

That must be a shitty job to be the infernal guard cook

[orchid thicket]

You and me and the rest of a grumpy minority

Primaris have ruined Maximus helms for me forever

[echo vault]

I like mk IV better than mk vii

Like way better, so I enjoy it for what it is

[celest dome]

Much better job than to be the one that eat that stuff

[echo vault]

Has there ever been such a shit job at welding the helmet to the dwarf's head that it pops off by accident

[storm jungle]

Yeah its in the chaos dwarves army book

[celest dome]

There are Dwarf whose accomplishment meant they had redeemed themselves so the Mask get ripped out

Don't remember about accidenteal though

[rose thorn]

Damn do I have a problem? Like damn I just like what Reddit hated

I unironically like Cato Sicarius

[storm jungle]

I mean no

other people mostly like him too

[rose thorn]

Oh okay

[storm jungle]

He has improved as a character since the mid 2000's

[rose thorn]

Yee

[storm jungle]

BACK THEN though everyone hated him

it was a mix of him being arrogant and also everyone harrassing/hating anything about Ultramarines

[rose thorn]

He’s just a fucking space marine nerd

It’s great

Okay serious question

Do navigators have pyker powers?

[green loom]

Yes

But also no

They have a very specific flavour of psychic bullshit tied to their mutation

[arctic talon]

They have their own special weird powers

[storm jungle]

^

Also they can do that one thing that one guy does from Avatar

https://media.tenor.com/asa1X9VLYZkAAAAC/combustion-man-avatar.gif

no this is not a joke, its great

[green loom]

I drew some sisters for someone

[rose thorn]

LMAO

[rose thorn]

Okay I misunderstood that for a sec

[green loom]

In what way

[remote widget]

Gor my local society to dig up the size comparison
@minor ingot

[green loom]

New terminators=herculean chads

I didn't like terminators before seeing them

[remote widget]

Does this mean I need to buy all new truescale custodes and custodes terminators, because it is TOTAL BS if they're now the same size as my golden boys, and my local group will only hate custodes more now

[green loom]

"primaris terminators" are just

Terminators

It's just a model facelift

With a lore addon saying "oh yeah the new guys can use them too"

[rose thorn]

I thought you meant you drew someone’s sister

[green loom]

Yeah their sister(s) of battle

[storm jungle]

[green loom]

It's one of my better pieces
And it isn't marines!

[arctic talon]

You can use your current terminators lol

Also custodes terminators size wise

Have always been way larger then marines

[remote widget]

Yes, but not anymore

[arctic talon]

they'll still be larger

or somewhat equal doesn't really matter imo

[remote widget]

Ah ok, I wondered that about when SM went from 28mm to 32mm

[arctic talon]

Its recomended to rebase

but meh

doesn't really matter

and terminator base size isn't changing either

[crimson kayak]

I mean isn't base size always the same?

Yeah as elite said

And even then yeah, at worst just re-base them

[crimson kayak]

I mean, the sternguard come with old helmets too if I remember correctly?

[hallow saddle]

Termies were on a 25(?)mm base before their current 40mm base

If you pop old termies on a 40mm base nobody is going to complain at all in games

It's all good

[crimson kayak]

Uh, I remember it being more like, you look at the third eye and basically collapse on the spot

More like Medusa but instead of stone you turn into pain

[orchid lark]

get rock hard anyway

[crimson kayak]

Anyhow, only a Paternova knows how to actually use the other "mysterious" (aka just vaguely mentioned) warp powers, most navigators can just you know... Navigate the warp and have the "stare at the eye and die" ability

[rose thorn]

Shit was lord Rex the cool inquisitor with a model

Or was it someone else

The resin model*

[green loom]

Which cool inquisitor

[orchid lark]

Torquemada Rex

I think he was gone long ao

torquemada coteaz

wait non

its Hector Rex

jesus the names

[orchid lark]

old man in his robo wheel chair

[jovial glacier]

We need this in darktide

[orchid lark]

nah

[jovial glacier]

You’re opinion is wrong but i respect it

[storm jungle]

We need miniatures in darktide? I agree

[orchid lark]

dont worry

[orchid lark]

i dont respect your opinions

[vale shuttle]

let me paint my little plastic figurines in darktide

[celest dome]

Depend on what you mean.
Power Armour, no
Storm shield and Power Sword yes

[jovial glacier]

Sword and shield

[celest dome]

Could happen, I think it will always be either Sword active or Shield active, depending to the variant

[orchid lark]

Ogryn

[celest dome]

Would be normal swords and Slab Shields
Unless we get Brute shields

[jovial glacier]

Ogryn is not a psyker yet

[orchid lark]

what game do you even want to play at this point

Vermintide 2?

[crimson kayak]

i mean, we do have a melee-centric class in the form of the zealot

[jovial glacier]

I want something better than the shit we got

[crimson kayak]

wich would also be the only one other than ogryn eligible for a shield unless for some unknowable reason we get a navis heavy shotgun

[jovial glacier]

I want a force sword and shield for psyker that isn’t bad

[crimson kayak]

wich in that case would mean endurant shield too

[orchid lark]

ungrateful

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-the-look-frog-what-did-you-say-gif-8287956

[celest dome]

Or Enforcer Shield maybe

[celest dome]

Psyker Shield don't really exist as far as we know

[orchid lark]

i love when glass cannon has shields for some reason

[crimson kayak]

new subclass?

[near wasp]

Pysker makes peoples head explode, why would they need a shield

Zealot doesnt need one because "faith is my shield"

[crimson kayak]

unless you meant psyker, in that case yeah i get the point

[orchid lark]

My Face is My Shield

[jovial glacier]

Have you played psyker

[crimson kayak]

meanwhile crusaders

[near wasp]

Yes i have played psyker

Alot actaully

[jovial glacier]

Would you like a sword and shield then

[near wasp]

No

[orchid lark]

no

why would i want onnne

[near wasp]

[celest dome]

This. And also Enforcer
But Shield with Shock Mace and Shock Flail

[near wasp]

It makes zero sense for them to have a shield, itd only get in there way and a be a burden when it came to calling the warp

[crimson kayak]

i'd prefer a crusader class only because it would make better sense for wielding a good variety of weapons wich could include arbites melee stuff

[celest dome]

True, but I expect the 2 to appear for Zealot

[jovial glacier]

You guys suck

[celest dome]

Why so

[crimson kayak]

lol

[near wasp]

Just because we dont agree, alright bud go far with that additude

[crimson kayak]

i mean, they do have a point, psykers do usually use the free hand to do psychic stuff

[celest dome]

Like even for future Ogryn shield I want them to be different from the current Slab shield

[crisp heath]

Ogryn is the shield class

[celest dome]

No, Ogryn has a shield, but he isn't a shield class

[crisp heath]

I'm a sword and shield fangirl but I don't think it would map well to darktide

[celest dome]

Why so ? Would work just as well as it did in VT2
Same way that a Twin Chain Axe would work just as well as Twin Axe from Bardin

[green loom]

Imagine playing anything other than vet

Couldn't be me

[crisp heath]

If I have a sword and shield I want to fight one tough guy, not a bunch of little guys

It's about the finesse

[celest dome]

Haven't even touched Vet

[orchid lark]

the emperor gave me two hands, one for my laspistol the other for my sword

[crimson kayak]

new enemies can always come along with new classes and weapons

[orchid lark]

to ask for a shield

is dumb

[near wasp]

Sword and shield isnt a defining class trait, its a weapon a tool. It shouldnt be its own class imo

[crisp heath]

Sword and Shield is its own damn genre

[near wasp]

This isnt monster hunter strawberry

[crimson kayak]

lol

[near wasp]

Im just gonna say ive bren up since 3am and im big dumb

I realized they were talking about pokemon right after i hit send

[orchid lark]

?

[celest dome]

Sword and Pistol is much difficult to program and map out than a Sword and Shield
Even if we take in account Assault, Supression or Brute shield

[orchid lark]

were we

[celest dome]

No idea, hadn't though about Pokemon Sword and Shield in a long time

[crisp heath]

Sword and shield only good in game designed to be sword and shield game you can't change my mind

[celest dome]

Have you played VT2 ?

[crisp heath]

I never played a video game before last year so

[near wasp]

I have played vt2

But i had boughten only a few weeks before darktide came out so i didnt play it for long

[celest dome]

Then you don't know how good shielded weapon felt in VT2

Though one of the kit that I want the most is Sword and Maul for the Ogryn.

[green loom]

I like shield + flail

[celest dome]

Would work with the lore and the move pattern is great as a simple copy

[green loom]

Rest is ehh

[storm jungle]

I missed everything

was Meat Man being a dickhead again

[orchid lark]

really wanted to die on the hill of sword and shields for psykers

[celest dome]

The few I want are:

• Fire Flail & Fire Mace -> Become Shock Flail and Shock Mace, with electric DoT
• Fire Sword -> Become Biomantic Sword (Psyker)
• Bolt Staff: Biomantic Staff
• Firedrake Pistol-> Twinned Plasma Pistol
  I love DoT

[storm jungle]

oof now thats a ban worthy statement

[near wasp]

He just didnt want to have a conversation and just got irked when i brought up some points he didnt like about sword and shield

[storm jungle]

Looking at his log he seems to do that in every channel

anyway sorry guys, carry on

[orchid lark]

about shields for psykers?

no

[rose thorn]

Ooo did I miss something?

[celest dome]

The thing about melee weapon for the Psyker, it's that it has such a wide potential, like any weapon can get a Psyker variant, with either Force, Fire, Aetheric, or Biomantic.
So I think we'll see but I expect:
Force: Glaive, Axe, and Hammer
Biomantic: Sword
Other: Psykana Mercy Dagger

[near wasp]

A force glaive would be baller

[jovial glacier]

Foce glaive would be epic

[rose thorn]

Oh so how do the navigator houses work?

I had a dream that navigators got their own amry

And it was just astra militarum

[storm jungle]

Basically they are just noble houses that inbreed with each other to keep the 3rd eye gene intact.

They couple and make more family members and those get to join an Imperial ship based on their status and act as its navigator.

[rose thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-gif-23501265

[storm jungle]

ITS THE ACTUAL LORE

Basically the more prestigious your House is the more power you have and the more badass of a ship you get assigned to.

Navigator Houses have INCREDIBLY big political pull

[rose thorn]

LIKE medieval Europe inbreed or mountain hicks inbreed

Actually it’s the same thing

[coarse pumice]

they literally keep the whole thing moving

[storm jungle]

Literally family inbreeding

like marrying to their relatives etc

If a Navigator bangs another person they lose the 3rd-eye gene

https://tenor.com/view/third-eye-willow-smith-red-table-talk-gif-14155325

[rose thorn]

pls be at least 2 steps away right

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

Idk what I was expecting lmao

[rose thorn]

Fucking he’ll talk about recessive genes

[storm jungle]

Honestly once you read the lore its like

"Eh, I've seen worse."

[rose thorn]

WHAT THE FUCL ISS THISSSS

I was expecting navigator to be hot like the one from the rogue trader game

https://preview.redd.it/4z8bpni0qpf91.jpg?auto=webp&s=9a3b9c1da99ee30e2eeec5a10c8c73955fa467b9

[orchid lark]

they can

[storm jungle]

^

it ENTIRELY depends

[orchid lark]

they live long

BUT

they become frogs

[storm jungle]

Some look gorgeous as hell while others look like monsters yeah

[orchid lark]

or Jabba the Hutt

[storm jungle]

Yeeee

[orchid lark]

there are Beggar Houses

[storm jungle]

like all those pictures are pretty "canon"

[orchid lark]

who are not on Terra

[coarse pumice]

mentats

[storm jungle]

sssh

[orchid lark]

No

[storm jungle]

[orchid lark]

Navigators from Dune

[storm jungle]

Also yeah that

Mentats do like 10 jobs at once

[orchid lark]

Mentats is that dude from Eisenhorn

[rose thorn]

Espern my beloved

[storm jungle]

That cosmetic was in the game files

[viral helm]

But it is hot???

[rose thorn]

(I need to finish the rogue trader books)

[viral helm]

I think you just need to be more open minded 😎

[orchid lark]

Navigators from Beggar Houses are the best lorewise for Navigators

[storm jungle]

Also get more mutations

because NO BITCHES

[orchid lark]

but are more skilled

[rose thorn]

He’s so navigator he lost his other eye lmao

[orchid lark]

they give me that glizzy 5000

[viral helm]

Where we're going, we won't need eyes

[rose thorn]

Oh yeah I should probably read rites of passage

The lore for the navigator army in my dream was that a navigator house got pissed off at another house and bought a small army to storm them

And then every other house copied them

Which

Honestly sounds right

[storm jungle]

Yeeee

Navigator lore is pretty simple too

a simple lexi read sums everything up

[crisp heath]

He is tho?

[storm jungle]

We explained it

Maggie is just a hater

jk

[crisp heath]

My only complaint with Cassia is she could be a little more mutated

[rose thorn]

His brain is covering his other eye

[crisp heath]

Otherwise she's perfect

[storm jungle]

Idk man shes a true waifu material

[rose thorn]

Albino navigators my beloved

[storm jungle]

DYING

[rose thorn]

AAAAAA

[storm jungle]

https://twitter.com/Solanj_t/status/1655693903712985090?t=Dbs_eYF6KcXtsmltJl2w8A&s=19

Solanj (@Solanj_t)

Owlcats still refuse to make a datesim-VN.
But what if?..
Part 1 - Cassia Orsellio, the Navigator
(Dialogues are taken from alpha, they are out of context and don't seem spoilery to me, but proceed with caution)
#warhammer40k #RogueTrader #wh40k #WarhammerArt #Rogue_Artist

Twitter · May 8, 2023, 9:59 PM

SHES SO CUTE

I ALMOST FEEL BAD

💀

[rose thorn]

If she leaves how the fuck do you pilot your ship lmao

[storm jungle]

Oh.

uh

[rose thorn]

Just imagine when you kick her out it just cuts to the end game credits

[crisp heath]

Fun prank to play on imperial vessels: set up a blind date between your navigator and a blank

[rose thorn]

Honestly a navigator merc army sounds really fun

To build

Not the navigators are mercs

But mercs hired by them

Give them purple cloth and nice shiny shit

[near wasp]

Ok tzeentch

[crisp heath]

Navigators are probably too rich to work for mercs tbh

Anything you could pay them would seem like an insult

[rose thorn]

Yeah

So an amry lead by navigators

Get the uhhh,, what’s his name

On the horse

Do ahead swap

Bam

Oh and add navigator symbols

Get an stl of gaurdsmen shoulder pads and add a cool eye symbol

[crisp heath]

Traitor navigator house that's half just mutated inbreds who don't want to pay taxes and half ultrasexy slaaneshi psykers who want even more money for their orgiastic torture feasts

Like the ones that look barely humanoid are still pretty much loyal and just have some selfish political views and then the hot ones are all chaos. Could even angle it as "navigators usually mutate, so staying hot into old age is actually a deformity caused by chaos"

[rose thorn]

Also attaché a pyker as much as possible

[rose thorn]

Oh yeah chaos navigators exist

I should be responsible and listen to my humble bundle audio books thoguh

[near wasp]

Dont most traitors have bound daemons as navigators?

[crisp heath]

I mean the average navigator isn't even loyal to the imperium itself, just to their house which is basically allied to the Imperium. A navigator could go chaos just because they're mad at their dad lmao

[rose thorn]

That’s what the dark angels did

[crisp heath]

They're also constantly staring into the warp so chaos navigators can't be too uncommon, Decimus from the Night Lords is even a child of one.

[storm jungle]

Its a mix of that and sorcerors

just the good old shit of uh

"I just see the way we are going bro trust me, this daemon told me"

[near wasp]

"Ill tell you where to go for your immortal soul"

[storm jungle]

"Wow sounds like a good deal to me!

[near wasp]

[rose thorn]

Ok gonna read the heretic saint next

I heard this one is

Okay

It’s just an audiobook version of the comics is what I heard

I do like thier models

Discord is having a stroke

There

She has that

https://tenor.com/view/blm-gif-25815938

Face

[crimson kayak]

I mean... Navigators don't really need an army?

They have enough political power and protection and mostly just sit on the ship

[celest cedar]

You should treat yourself NOW

[storm jungle]

No this is just pure fiction-within-fiction

a marine will fucking die before he can even get near one lol

Greater Daemons realistically can only be soloed by someone like a Chapter Master.

Otherwise its always a group effort

[coarse pumice]

Warhammer 40,000 was almost called Warhammer 3000

[storm jungle]

[coarse pumice]

and it became Warhammer because the original main title of Rogue Trader would conflict with Rogue Trooper

which they got with a 2000AD license

[celest cedar]

Oh you like 40K? Name all 39999 Warhammers

[celest dome]

@storm jungle Can I ask a little favour, could you ban me from the discord for the week ?

[storm jungle]

Uhh I can't do that no

you should legit just mute the group and toss it in a small folder imo

thats what I do with groups i dont want to spend time in

[celest dome]

Good advice

[storm jungle]

yeah trust me it will do you good

@celest dome

Open one of these and toss it deep in there

[orchid lark]

The coolest chapters master that beat evildoers up are the ones with bodyguards

[jovial glacier]

Then why are you in them?

[storm jungle]

Because they got cool emotes.

[jovial glacier]

That’s true

[obsidian brook]

Anathema Psykana[already wrote]/Departmento Investigates/Divisio Investigates🤨

[copper patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-gif-26460616

that was from literally 2 months ago my man

[green loom]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1037859239516962906/1067204920064868412/cate.gif

[obsidian brook]

= D

[storm jungle]

Awful

someone, kill them

🫵

[near wasp]

will do ma'am

https://tenor.com/view/shame-gun-thats-a-shame-rifle-reload-gif-16005192

[jovial glacier]

do sisters of silence talk to each other or is it no talking at all ever?

[tepid peak]

They use sign-language. Novices still speak until they take their vows of silence, and serve as interpretors to outsiders.

[odd palm]

And if the novices aren’t around, then they can use a small vocaliser device that speaks for them

[storm jungle]

Very proud of this chat 🙏

[tepid peak]

Whut? Why tho?

[crisp heath]

Dilara we argue about plastic men and hit on robots, there's nothing to be proud of here

[tepid peak]

As a former gifted child "proud of you" always came before a "but you're letting yourself down."

[crisp heath]

as a former gifted child, I've never heard "proud of you"

[tepid peak]

Well I am proud of you. You survived being a gifted child.

[storm jungle]

Usually you'll get like 40 messages here trying to answer a simple question.

Meanwhile just 3 people answered and added more info ontop of each other for a perfect reply.

Its just nice to see

[green loom]

That happens even if the answer is just "no"

[storm jungle]

also true

[tepid peak]

I'm glad to have been part of something so good.

[near wasp]

The hivemind had a coherent thought

[near wasp]

Yeahhhh i remember those words.

[vale shuttle]

when i was a kid i told one of the guidance counsellors at my school i wanted to be a video game developer and they said "What a waste"

[orchid lark]

Time for me to ruin Dilaras expectations and just

Spread misinformation

[vale shuttle]

did you guys know that the orks can make a stick shoot bullets? it's true if they all believe it it becomes a gun it's how it works

[orchid lark]

I think it’s interesting that for a bunch of good guys and heroes

The imperium uses a lot of skull iconography

[vale shuttle]

yeah it's well known that the imperium are all good guys and that everyone who says otherwise is a heretic or a xenos

i think they use skulls to be ironic and threatening to all the enemies of man

[orchid lark]

Orks are fungus

[arctic talon]

That one isn’t entirely false tbf

[orchid lark]

they photosynthesize

maybe

[arctic talon]

They produce spores

[orchid lark]

they can pee

oh wait thats canon

[arctic talon]

Them making spores is like

A huge reason why they’re dangerous lol

Anyways the Tau are all communists amiright

[orchid lark]

Taus harsh caste system is proof that they have a communist mindset

[terse flume]

orcs and tyranids are both kind of more like poxes or infestations than reasonably lets-live-in-peace-and-harmony space buddies

they're both very probably long long lost bioweapons

or close enough to not matter

[orchid lark]

thats mostly true for Orks who were once kroaks

maybe

[vale shuttle]

unforetunately this one issn't true, they like eat stuff

i looked it up on lexicanum and there's no reference to them photosynthesising

RIP

[orchid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-sandy-cheeks-photosynthesis-gif-4526738

orks before a battle

[silver pollen]

It sounds like "X being white is proof that X is black".

[celest cedar]

Whats the Tau caste system looks like?

[orchid lark]

They have Air castes for pilots and space pilots

Fire Castes for warriors

Earth Castes for engineers

Water was Merchants?

And the Ethereal Castes at the top or summat

No interbreeding between castes

For some reason

I think they have physiological differences?

Gene bred differences

Whether or not allied factions are secondary citizens I don’t remember

Farsight and his Enclaves has challenged the caste system considering in some level

[echo vault]

Prime example of oopsie daisy
https://youtu.be/maXonXKY4BQ

[green loom]

Water is diplomats in general

Air caste have bird like bones and are tall and lanky

Earth caste are small

Basically Tau dwarfs

[orchid lark]

Yeah thats right

Merchants wouldnt make sense if that was the only thing

Yeah

[celest cedar]

Damn. Didnt know T'au are so rigid.

[green loom]

They're also generally physically weaker than humans iirc but idk the canonicity of that

And that's including fire warriors

[orchid lark]

I feel like thats fanon delusion thing

Like info extrapolated from their stats

[green loom]

It wouldn't really matter

Like they're still probably more martially/physically capable than the average malnourished conscript from Cockus VII

[orchid lark]

When push comes to shove

Its not something youre gambling on

[thick cedar]

Can the god emperor be a little more expensive 😫 😩 😪 I don't have any idea what to do about the fact that I am a little bit concerned that you have to worry about me being a fan of the Albuquerque

[celest cedar]

What

[orchid lark]

You what

get out of NM I guess?

[silver pollen]

Considering, there are steady rumors about chemical sterilization of humans on conquered planets... I think, it is safe to assume that "Greater good" is for everyone but for Tau it's a bit greater than the others.

[vale shuttle]

https://out.reddit.com/t3_13lp47q?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRaW1Yva.jpg&token=AQAAKGFnZBxG5DbQT2kvOON9WLexI3KGkqRuwRyoDnSReea62NzY&app_name=mweb

guys these nids' legs can do a full rotation

[silver pollen]

Those are quite vintage ones.

Wait, why do they have weapons?

[vale shuttle]

most nids have weapons

you can see it in a lot of the gaunts they're holding little guns

[silver pollen]

I mean, modern tyranids have them as integral part of themselves.

Guns included, though, those are usually symbiotic creatures.

[crimson kayak]

Isn't the chemical sterilization a one off quote made a fucklong time ago?

Look at the last two expansion spheres if you want some real bad Tau, with genocide of populations and all

[vale shuttle]

iirc it's the noncanon ending to dark crusade

i don't think it's repeated anywhere though

[crimson kayak]

It's actually said the contrary most of the time

With auxiliaries enjoying more freedom than standard T'au by being outside the caste system

[silver pollen]

I don't like tau because they were brought into the setting to appeal to the weebs with all that mecha shit and such.

Also, their plot armor is stronger than the will of the Emperor. Their puny Empire should have folded when meeting full might of ANY of major factions of 40K but something always happens to miraculously save them in the worst deus-ex-machina fashion.

[vale shuttle]

ok buddy

[crimson kayak]

Oh God I didn't hear the Tau are weeb mecha since the time 1d4chan was still a thing

[vale shuttle]

you know i could say the same about the Imperium you know?

also yeah this is some 2005 era meme

[crimson kayak]

Or about any other faction, with all of them having anime mech designs somewhere lol

[silver pollen]

Imperium is slowly downfalling, you know?

[crimson kayak]

Yes, and the Tau its in the phase right before becoming a big empire and falling

Their whole point is "young civilization repeating mistakes of old"

[vale shuttle]

"slowly" downfalling yet it's lasted longer than all of real human history

it exists due to author fiat

[crimson kayak]

Also yeah this

[vale shuttle]

just like everything in 40k

[silver pollen]

This is because Imperium is that huge.

[crimson kayak]

It's not really

[vale shuttle]

the Mongol Empire famously lasted the longest

y'know cause it was so big!!

[silver pollen]

Incorrect example. Take Rome.

[coarse pumice]

the original ones were space marines, who look like a cross between megaman and mazinger

[crimson kayak]

Even there it's different, as Rome wasn't Literally constantly besieged on all sides

[vale shuttle]

Rome fell as well, also if we want to use Rome as an example we should have a Byzantine Empire soon. (Or guilly's crusade should just fall apart now)

[silver pollen]

6 centuries if we count all the parts of it existing while claiming mandate of inheritors of the Horde. Not so bad for a bunch of nomads.

[vale shuttle]

anyway gotta go second act of the play is starting see ya

[crimson kayak]

Idem the Mongol weren't under invasion for most of their time

[silver pollen]

ORLY? Have you heard anything about the Migration period?

[crimson kayak]

Most empires last because they manage to live in peace a long time between wara

[silver pollen]

They were the invasion, yes.

[orchid lark]

tau came out close to 20 years ago, when there was a lull in mecha genre

[silver pollen]

Imperium is clearly inspired by the late Roman empire slowly descending to its downfall. Like, economic and technological degradation, inability to field proper big armies and etc. Ofc, scale makes the story of Rome a bit shorter than downfall of Imperium. Also there are less nuances with lack of Warp and Dark Four IRL.

[crimson kayak]

Yes, but that's just a veeeery underlying theme that doesn't even apply anymore to current imperium

[orchid lark]

nah the Imperium is based on [THIS ANCIENT CIV] because emperor was leading that empire

[crimson kayak]

As the situation has changed completely than the start

[orchid lark]

wait this guy just unironically ORLY'd you

what fucking year is this

[crimson kayak]

Wait what?

[orchid lark]

when was the last time you saw ORLY being used unironically

[crimson kayak]

... I don't even know what Orly means, I thought he meant only

Lol

[orchid lark]

its Oh Really?

[silver pollen]

I am quite conservative and don't have time to keep up with the latest edition of "Internet memes for a friendly conversation".

[orchid lark]

like the owl face

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-cat-bedtime-naptime-drowsy-gif-9297118

[storm jungle]

Also literally every fascist regime imaginable too