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i once tried to write an SCP but i just couldn't get it working
it was an anomalous mobile kill team trhat would receive extradimensional orders
from an alternate foundation
the problem with the scp foundation is that it became too developed by a billion different writers into an actual setting which took away from the creepy factor
wait, don't the official scp's have to get approved or somethinG?
SCPs can be removed if they get downvoted too much, or if the mods think it's bad, but you can just throw up an SCP
uh
I only used the SCP setting to run Delta Green game, worked quite well
access denied on the list is just "Here's an open number for your entry."
so i guess they did make 8 series, but didn't fill any of them fully
yeah
the modern version of "an incomprehensible, degenerate, alien gibbering form so horrific that it would drive you mad if I even began to describe it"
i should check back in a few years to see which SCPs get the coveted "9999" and "10000" slots
Reminder that Stormcast are pretty based
Its funny because its true
Its rare cases but they mostly can yeah
I knew there was something like that in Fantasy but not in AoS
yeah obviously i don't think they just go and WOLOLO them
Yeee exactly 
AoS is high fantasy and more spirit-based with sigmar being an actually active god, so he can perform similiar miracles like that
In fantasy it's putting the Chaos Devotee in a large barrel with special flames that burn the Chaos Away
Stormcasts have some Astartes-tier dogmatic hosts but most of them are chosen because they convey good warrior virtues and may offer redemption to some chaos warriors
its when they constantly die and lose their personalities that they become no better than your average joe astartes which they consider a fate worse than death
kek
Or just the Destiny respawn thing
where they can get into spots and die from where they can't get resurrected and die permanently
Then you have Based Bastian who fought Ascendant Archeon while he was mortal, and threw his mortal ass into the anvil to get it over with
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And Vandus
Who is a dick
everytthing i learn about AoS makes me think 40k should get an AoS-style reboot
like, AoS seems so much more cool and fun and while i do love 40k, there's also a big pile of things i dislike
ah well maybe one day i'll just bite the bullet and make an AoS army
Nihilus atm has similar narrative potential to AoS
But 40k narratives are handled so badly that you'll never get a good scenario 
yeah but most of the time when we hear about nihilis it's...
it's "The Imperium of Man continues to badassfully reconquer Nihilis. They're so hot and cool."
i'll do it
i literally cant see half of memes because I blocked a lot of folks
im gonna do it
I wonder if this counts as promoting negativity
youre starting a row at the expense of others
bro i hate to tell you this but 40k is alreayd made to maximise corporate profits
Yeah it's way of doing things is uniquely bad
They pour all the good ideas into AoS and just use 40k to milk SM fans 
^
im happy with that
Its been said all the best model makers are apparently on the AOS department which... explains a lot honestly lmao
if i were to reboot 40k the main thing i would do is make "renegade humans" a viable choice
as well as making your own little xenos empires as well
They are
But they're stomped out in exposure by loyalists so hard both officially and in fan content that you literally just don't see them
this way you could have people play as not-fascists without having a bunch of nerds kick down the door and be all like "THE IMPERIUM WOULD KILL THEM IN TWENTY MINUTES"
if I could reboot 40k I want space marines and eldar to kiss
have my dollies kiss each other
Or the AoS managers are much more lax and give the AoS model maker much more freedom.
Instead of making them do SM 2023 model 10+
Mfw Dawn of War
Love can Bloom ?
I'll play with my dolls how I want
based and cutepilled
Early AoS started with primaris style kits for Stormcast
Where every weapon option was a different fkn box
thjis is really the main thing i'd be doing on a 40k reboot: i'd make it so Your Dudes would be less limited
Now they've moved away from that and have doubled down on it for marines 
well you could always make your dudes
yes, i know
GW likes when people make their little dudes cause its free word of mouth marketing
its just the rest of everyone has something to damn well say
yeah i'd try to reduce this by adding at least a few canonical examples of like, renegade humans, mixed empires, and other fan-controversial ideas
i also like the fact in fantasy/AoS not all daemon princes are colossal monsters
id add more bullshit for other factions, so they can have stupid custodes equivalents
||make harlequins eldar custodes on the tabletop please||
Worth it? Worth it
Gallows humour only works when the comedian and audience are the ones on the gallows.
darktide discord, is it gay if i notice how thicc repentia thighs are while i paint them?
so i should strive for that sororitas body
I mean idk laceration is pretty painful
pain is just weakness leaving the body or something
If i remember the closest named custodes equivalents for the orks is ghazghkull's Goff guard
either that or prime-orks
...why is that so familiar? i mean, outside of being ork batman
its the burton batmobile, might be why lmao
oh no ok, found the culprit, the central turbine made me remember the car of the bad guy from wacky races
even through everything else is completely different
"Bat boy the dark git"
And his vehicle the bat buggy
I like to imagine instead of black he's colored purple
Theyāre already arguably more elite rn
You donāt get many harlequins
And each one hits like a goddamn truck
Yeah Eldar are arguably the only ones with a custodes equivalent in the form of harlequins
Iām excited for 10th itās definitely gonna have the biggest boom in custom subfactions
yeah, i noticed also that 10ed (alongside a couple other wargames) are moving toward more "accessible" models like the new Leviathan box ones or Warmachine's 4th edition ones that are already magnetized, so that would mean people a bit less scared to also bring said custom idea's to tabletop
I think besides CSM I might mostly go with custom shit for all the factions in 40k
And ynnari
And demons
But thatās a givin
I like the white scars
But I think Iād struggle making an army of them
I have some custom stuff for csm but.. Word Bearers and Iron Warriors
Word bearers šāØš
Yea
Its the flavourful feel
Iron Warriors is the cold steel of it
A decent enough foil for the Space Marines own cold steel
But you gotta cultist heavy with both for the flavour
Which adds room to style
Iām stuck between stealing a successor and making a custom
For who
Loyalest
Word Bearers?
Space marine
Nothings stopping you from both
True
I kinda wanted to steal at first
Loved Red Wings for Blood Angels
And Tome Keepers
But ended up making my own
Yea I think Iām gonna be weird and make a successor for each of the non codex not counting DW
Join the club
I have a custom successor for each essentially
Why non codex
Flexible
Space wolves / dark angels / blood angels have their own play styles
Separate from space marines
Dw too
But they re the French vanilla of vanilla marines
People forget Space Wolves is a shooty army
My OC successor for wolves follows the Legion Space Wolves, headhunters and trackers
Kill all Space wolves
I WILL hate space wolves
There are no Wolves on Fenris
āHealing powders
Wink wink
ICE GUNS
Yeah they're mutated humans
Except for Russās wolves
Which are giant wolves
They had more common dna to a rhino
Those are mutated humans according to Magnus 
The same chaos mutations that make beast men in 40k I wonder?
Think not, as they are Wolf like Spirit/Daemon, so would be guided mutation, more akin to the Skin-Wolves of Fantasy
Okay but what if... there are only wolves on fenris
thats the fan assumption on Felinids
like, did human engineering that focused on survivability just made humans change into animals
Wasn't it assumed to be man made modification for reasons
That are unsavoury
i still find it hard to believe grox are more common than livestock we have right now when apparently horses and dogs still see widespread useage
Well Grox are very hardy and easy to mass produce
Plus their hide can be used to make heavy leather
Dogs and horses are useful for warfare, Grox are likely more logistically sound than other livestock, so got spread far and wide to make use of it
Ye grox can adapt to alot of different places
Ooooo Iām gonna consume the prophets of Mercury chapter
And use it for my future seeing dudes
They have been considered martyr extremis
JAGDUSAGAHHAAHHAHDHEHAHA
AHGSGSHAHAAH
āOh hey the abyssal wars what is thisā
āOh cool the judged, the prophets of Mercury are considered one of these dudedā
presses the wiki link to the judged
I see no reason they canāt be refounded
and I can say their home planet is mercury
And all the Mercury lore is that
āThereās mining, and all the pykers were killedā
jhagajjHSHSJAH
NO IYS AMAIZNGgauahshha
This neeeds to be a new warhammer meme
Risen, the
The risen
āWho do you hail from chaos space marineā
āFallen, theā
Also I forgot wasnāt there whacky shit going on with solarās sun?
I mean
What is Terraās solar system called again
Is it still solar?
Sol/Solar
What is etymology
The study of the origin of words I guess
Now read this again
I know I wasnāt sure if they changed the name for 40k
The words sun and moon are referencing the celestial bodies
Sol is the name of the sun
Anyway, wasnāt there like, a fuckinh demon or Catan shard or something in the sol sun?
Much like Rao is the name of the sun for Krypton
Sol System
Oh yeah that too
Much like the Baal System
Huh Baal is 3.4 AU from its sun
Very cold
It takes uh
21 minutes for light to reach Baal
I think?
7 minutes to 1 AU
Iām thinking for my lore it could be like āthe prophets of mercury have been refounded only before a strange discovery of an uptick in pykers on the planet; believed to be caused by it being extremely close to the Sun. Mercury had formed a religious culture due to its proximity to Tera in which pykers are considered sacred figures and guide others with star readings, imperial tarots, and many other similar practicesā
āWhile the newly founded chapter uses the geneseed of its predecessor the founding is still unsureā
And just use
The symbol for mercury for their chapter symbol
And Iām not sure on a color scheme
my chapter's gimmick is that their pykers have visions and they believe they must ensure that the vision happens no mattter what
Oh shit now that you say it its a whole chapter of konrad kurze
the infamous harlequin land raider
Listening to the eisenhorn series for the first time here, are Demons immune to nulls?
Cherubael laughing in the face of a null seemed odd
Guys. are the Elysian Drop Troops inspired by American airborne divisions? 101st? 82nd?
Are they the "American" regiments. alongside the Harakoni Warhawks?
the US isn't the only one with airborne troops, mate. and the stupid carrying handles everywhere suggest they're probably some EU faction.
It depends on their power level and also the Null's one
Cherubael is crazy OP its why hes like "Bitch get out of my face lmao"
Harkoni warhawks are inspired by modern Nato airborne divisions
Something about the name Elysian drop troops immediately made me think 101st airborne.
I thought they were more American
They have elements from all NATO nations but they most closely resemble American yes
The same way krieg is mostly French and British except for the helmet and naming convention
damn
"Justice is a tool poisoned by heretical manipulations, trust only in your righteous faith and let not the arguments of the wicked sway you"
Is how I imagine a particularly Puritan inquisitor would yap about it
What do staves do? Do they just help "ground" the psyker when casting?
I FOUND ANOTHER
SOMEONES FUCKINH WITH IT I SWEAR LMAO
More likely the website's borked
Thereās a parody song of Harakoni Warhawks based off of Sabatonās Screaming Eagles. Last I checked the EDT can have small sized vehicles deployed, which, if I can recall recently(last year), the 82nd AB now employ their Armored component
It happened on both wikis
Tetrarch gaming
Oh wiat
I found a better chaoter to eat
For my future vision guys
The imperial stars
To eat?
It's supposed to be like that though?
Yeah but like that's how an encyclopedia entry is supposed to be formatted
"[Subject], The" so that it can be searched alphabetically, otherwise you'd just have 90% of your articles under "The"
To steal the name and color scheme of them
Since they have zero lore
Ah, fair
Okay hereās all the chapters I picked whoās name fits the theme
Imperial stars
Vorpal Blades
Star scorpions
Silver Swords
And marines August
Knocking off mariens august
Because the name is stupid
Good thing you didn't choose star scorpions XD
Name's got some baggage
Chaos corrupted chapter
Ohh
Okay then yeah imperial stars but Iāll improve the color scheme
Everyone give round of aplaws for the imperial stars
You will be inducted into my leviathan box
Or the space marine combat patrol if itās gets
Scalped as fuck
Not a fan of the purple scheme?
I@liek it
Thereās just
Tooooo much purple
But I did want purple
Gw bless that old as fuck painting guide for random ass chapter
This is prettt good lol
Fair, safe bet is to opt for silver and/or black to break up the purple.
Avoiding gold helps dodge the countless "Are they EC?"
good ol' limemarines....
Mine are grape marines
isnāt this the same person who loves slaneesh faction so much

lmao
Hey so I know first captains for the founding chapters are like
Usually best friends with the chapter master
Does that trend follow for successors?
Why is this picture empty
Favorite weapon pattern? The phaestos pattern flamer and all the Elysian drop trooper variants of weapons are very cool I hope we get more
Krieg trench shotgun and merovech lasgun (sadly this one doesn't have images)
Also the navis las-volley too
Shit, first time I see it
Not sure where it's from though
For the Krieg, you want it as a new pattern or just cosmetic ?
Could work as a new pattern
But even as a cosmetic only it would be good
I just want a revolving shotgun
Like, God damn
Not sure how the special ammo would work i the case of a revolving shotgun, and the reload would take longer
Maybe it would need to be a separate shotgun
Special ammo could work like the doom shotgun and have a full auto mode
Btw I was looking at the lexicanum acolyte page, and just looking at the archetypes there could be some cool ideas for future classes
Umbra
What interst you the most ?
Oh hey the gsc have soemthjng similar
Desperado and Hierophants principally, then Seekers and Pyroclasts
For Vet, Zealot, Zealot and Zealot ?
Vet, zealot, either, vet
When you say seeker, you mean the Daemonine Seeker or the Seeker group (Cult Stalker, Judge...)
Seeker group, basically an arbites/enforcer origin class
Oh ok
Hierophants as a form of support class obviously and well, Desperado would encompass all the Hive ganger/actually a criminal backgrounds
I want to see a Zealot Enforcer as the/a ranged class, maybe with mechanic like the Witch Hunter (Pinged enemy take more damages), and Grail Knight or bounties
Vet I care the least about, but I think a Veteran Commissar,and a Veteran Stormtrooper
Zealto getting Crusader, Enforcer and Death Cult Assassin
it's real
That's a Grenade Launcher though
looks close enough
Oh, there's also the Ryza pattern that I can't manage to comprehend how it's supposed to work
it works by the power of 80's
loads like a garand

Ah yes, the infamous Ryza Ping
Now that I think about it the new cadians also have this one that is really good looking
I mean, not really?
luckily with the new models you get both


it's true lol
Special Powerpack, the thing in front of the trigger is the Power pack
this should be the design going forward
return to rifle stocks
They are shock troopers, they have a carbine version of the lasgun. Makes sense to me 
That's not the carbine version
Oh yeah because theres TOTALLY only one type of carbine lasgun
It's nothing about making sense, I just don't like the way they look 
I genuinely doubt anyone looked at cadians and went "we totally know what shock troops are, give them a gun like this"
Its the same rifle, just a different casing. YOu can see with the barrel and mag
But whatever floats ya boat
Do their lore/rule mention that they have Carbines instead of Lasgun ?
I mean, Its obvious isn't it? I don't think the new shock troopers have their own lore on their lasguns
It's just a rifle stock lasgun, not a carbine or anything practical
lasguns being carbines doesn't make sense anyways, because why would you need to tell if the barrel has threading if it's hooting light....
stupid brits, at least learn about guns if you're gonna use the lingo...
Words can be adapted to mean different things, especially if they refer to similar things on a high level
Or as Orin said its just writers learning terminology from wikipedia
They are laser guns, I think they have different classifications for what a carbine is 38 thousand years in the future
Spoiler: they don't
I think it's just shorter for civilian use or something ? And less powerful
Lascarbines usually have much more exposed barrel
Well the long-las for sure isn't a carbine
Yep, they use both
And you can see that on all different patterns with images about them
??
And not the infantry squad
Cadian shock troopers donāt get heavy weapons they get 2 special weapons
Wait... Weren't the old infantry squad still cadian shock troopers?
They got some different guns in-between tho its mostly just las i think
Like a stub tommy gun
also a beltfed one
Not cadian shock troopers
Poses as well
The shock trooper poses have them running
Thatās actually weird as shit
Ngl
That it doesnāt show the basic infantry squad
Yeah, Infantry squads CAN just be Cadian Soldiers. Shock troopers are special since they are really on the move and arn't used to hold points
Yeah but thereās 2 dif builds for the current guardsmen kit
And itās weird they donāt show both
Imo
every other dual build box shows both
I wonder if itās based on the Eldar one
I mean you could buy the Death Korp kill team for the same price, and catachans if you hate yourself
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Itās just weird
Bcs GW has fully assembled infantry squad minis of the new Cadians
Bcs theyāre shown off in the fucking codex
I mean, they are also moving toward twist-in models seeing the ones on the leviathan box so I mean, at that point just wait and update the models again lol
Do shock troopers have different rules than regular guard squads
I thought cadians just called their infantry shock troops
Sad they didn't do like Warmachine 4.0 and directly go magnetized, but considering how Warmachine got crazy expensive im not that unhappy lol
Apparently yeah lol
Shock troopers have 2 special weapons, and exploding 6's
But now they have sticky objectives
as their special rule
interestin
I'm just happy we can bring them in units of 20 now. I've waited so long
Those are only for launch boxes
Oh really
GW makes non monopose versions later
Yeah
Launch boxes are almost always mono pose
For warhammer
Or they are limited posing
this is correct
Well that just got me way less excited
The only kit thatās always pushfit is the blight hauler iirc
Mostly because itās actual mold
Broke
some units do stay in their launch kits like most the necrons did this edition afaik
But they still have the easy to build one
Itās the doomstalker
The warriors arenāt monobuild
not monobuild but pretty much snap fit with two weapon options
the destroyers also stayed monopose right? They don't require much extra work to do some modifications I recon though
Optimus prime would beat the shit out of an imperial knight fs
Not sure
Yeah they did
yeah the kit is pretty stellar otherwise do I don't really mind at least
With the heavy destroyers yeah they're monopose but I just built 3 last month and you can switch up the poses a bit by cutting and pinning the waist and doing a little cutting and pinning with the arms. And the head
Smaller than a knight and without energy shielding for more mobility... Basically a big Tau battlesuit vs a knight
Nah, optimus prime is cool as fuck
Ah yeah I meant the lokhust destroyers, but good to hear they can be modified with little effort as well
Incredibly underselling Optimus there
hes basically got the mobility of an eldar knight and the firepower of an Imperial knight combined
Good, the gsc deserve good things
also fast for his size, has better range of movement too
(Armada Optimus is best Optimus)
the image of optimus is utterly ruined by the snyder movies sadly
ohshit oh fuck meant bay
I'm too young, I only know the Bay Transformer
I watch the bayverse transformers cause I want to watch machines punching shit
sure but the optimus in it is just horrible
dude fucking brutally murders a defeated enemy
oh and killed humans too
first movie optimus was cool
thats what made the Fall and War of cybertron awesome
War criminal Optimus wrecking shit
wrong link
i mean this link
An Optimus that goes to the deep end to uphold the values he holds dear
is a cool optimus
the bay optimus pretty much abandons those values though
I mean, depends which version


Hey, not my problem if there's 1 gazillion timelines per franchise lol
After all let's remember movie transformers had to hide From humans for a while
best optimus, imperium war crimes optimus
the coolest of coolest optimus was GI Joe Optimus
Him shooting sentinel prime in the face as he begs for mercy will never stop being fucking funny to me
its so good
Optimus post death and rebirth is obviously the best version
Second only probably to armada, but armada it's armada
FUCK
WE posted the same video
"NOO OPTIMUS AUGH-"
i think last year
he didn't have too, he chose too
only thing I don't like is that Optimus doesn't say Optimus Yes when he shoots him
No I meant transformers in general
that seems out of character
Do watch the Pointless Hub videos on the Bay movies, they are entertaining 
its funny cody's second channel is better than his main
Anyhow yeah, I think a movie Optimus could definetly fight off a Questoris or below, but anything over it reaches the "House with chainsaws and guns of the dark age of tech" size and firepower so I guess he would start struggling a lot more with larger classes
I feel like he'd agree lol
he was very critical of his earlier videos
Eldar hellgun ?
the Ryza looks like it's based on this
but the Eldar one has the battery pack and the cable to the suit which has it's own power generator
the battery mag placement puts the forward grip area further forward
no stock or sights, but I assume with the cable there's a helmet hud which shows where the gun is pointing
Isn't that a fire Lance?
Uh
Not sure if I would say that the Ryza Lasgun
is inspired by it
Instead of just Ray Punk aesthetic
I mean, the Ryza is literally the part of the gun after the magazine with an handle and a trigger
the silhouette is like the front part of the Eldar lasgun
but the Eldar one looks less alien (
)
Found the new version of the Eldar one
the ryza just uses the same powerpack as the laspistol. it's in the handle. other than that it's pretty straightforward.
Las-pistols don't have the power pack in the handle?
I mean, except the necromunda one, but that's basically a small ryza
that's the old laspistol style, yes.
Only the Heavy Las Pistol use the normal Mag types
I though the power pack was at the back (Silver part)
whole design is a mess
Yeah I think looking at the pistol that the weird coil part is the mag
In the ryza-styled
As someone also said before I think
they keep making the grips too thin, i wonder why.
In that one it's on the side, sten style
Or Atleast the central grey area looks similar
that's the best laspstol design i've seen yet.
it's even got sights!
why can't we have that one in game.
It's from the old Inquisitor specialist game
Because its much weaker than the one we have
I mean, in the same game that made one of the best lasguns into a peashooter
Wait what ?
lemme dual wield stub pistols pls
But you know, being a drop troop you don't really care as you are basically a 40k odst
Lasgun have different power setting, I assume the Reccon are on low power
Now if only we had a reason to keep them on low power when we also use the heavy maintenance hungry lucius
We don't have Stub Pistols 
Gameplay reason?
I don't know how canon the ffg games still are but in only war the bullpup is the same as the m36 lasgun but with a little less range and weighing slightly less
True, but with the same explanation I go back to point 1 where for the same gameplay reason a normal laspistol shouldn't necessarily be that much weaker than the heavy we have
I know, but seeing as we have a stub revolver and a laspistol and an autopistol I want them to add a stub pistol, but I don't know how they would make it good enough on it's own so let me dual wield it
True
It's basically the only info we have on specific patterns of weapons so it's that or nothing 90% of the time
Hell, half the patterns are specially made for the ffg games
Malekith may say ulthuan is his birth right but that doesn't remove all the arrows in him from my lothern sea guard turning him and his dragon into a pin cushion, which was hilarious seeing a mythical figure of the warhammer fantasy series fall like 10 stories off of his dragon to his likely doom
I kind of feel all the later stuff was kind of weak, like silly superhero stuff
The End Time lire that is the worst is anything portraying the Skaven
You mean using the "skaven shenanigans" plot device that makes you wonder what the point of the other chaos factions was?
Mostly the fact that for most of the Skaven lore pre ET it was told to be basically the biggest force around but more preoccupied on backstabbing each other. And in the ET they work all together
because its rat time
fuck your cathay, fuck your pretty much every faction, the great horned rat knows just how to annoy you because he's the one who wrote the end times skaven lore, yes the great horned rat himself
it is he the great horned rat who unlocked thorgrim grudgebearers chamber doors, it is he who allied with chaos because it would be funny, he was the one who told ikit claw to blow up the moon
At that time nobody cared about Cathay
rathay
the only reason cathay wasn't mentioned in the end times outside of being destroyed by the skaven was because afterwards the skaven did some very racist things pertaining to cathayan ethnicity

It was destroyed by Tzeentchian rebels/incursions and Grimgor I thought
neither were confirmed. grimgor headed that way and died to the ogres, and cathay was attacked but tzeentch cults but nothing implied they were overrun aside from the whole "end times was about fluffing the chaos forces everywehre" thing
Cathay also had almost 0 lore when endtimes was written
Almost all of the Cathay stuff thatās recognizable today is from total war warhammer 3
ye
Based CA
OH, SWEET EMPEROR, DIDN'T KNOW THIS CHAT EXISTS XD
Or at least forgot it exists.
Theorycrafting is alright
The best indeed.
Inhales
Tyranids are the worst faction in 40k. No value whatsoever except cool models.
Right next to Alpha Legion whose whole shtick is knowing nothing about them.
We know about them
It's just very boring
And stupid
The best take.
Alpha Legion had never gone past meme status for 40k
they have individually cool characters and units in 30k, but are just like
whatever for 40k
they wiped out a chapter of space marines over the course of centuries? cool, some shmuck warband did it in a decade
I think Chaos in general had become a giant meme by the time the 2nd edition codex came out
they got some good stand alone
Chaos sucks if its the antagonist for any story
because they're just evil cartoon dudes
Fighting evil cartoon dudes
Chaos as the main characters got some good'uns
Chaos works because you dont have people huffing copium that they are the "good guys"
They are the decepticons of the setting and it works pretty well
Early on chaos was like a hidden corruptions, and chaos marines were more like the renegade chapters
they just need a good comic soundwave for the real evil
Then the 2nd ed book came and they became like a comic book
I wish
I fucking wish
I mean for the better imo
you forget the 10 alpha legion fans
They dont count
because Alpha Legion SUCKS
The Huron campaign was like a retreading of that idea
b-b-but we have plans and agents everywhere, we're the best best
I like the Alpha legionaries Abnett brings up most of the time
but the whole legion is whatever
The Redacted?
Abnett is pretty bad
Wait no
I swear to god the alpha legion is more convoluted than tzeench
Yeah not really
the fandom just literally huffs copium that theres loyalists elements
the problem is they are never mentioned
because tabletop wise they are all chaos alligned
They are all brainwashed with code phrases, this can never backfire at all 
Alpha legionn dont even know the fuck theyre doing because theyre too decentralized
i wont be surprised if they self sabotage one another without realising
Yeah it's like the fan canon The purple color makes orks invisible even though it really just doesn't
The example people use for loyalist AL aren't AL and they aren't loyalists 
Sneaky and stealth dont equate to invisibility
The Dark Angels traitor thing too?
I love how people always make those memes when literally 99% of Alpha Legion lore has been them helping chaos lmao
I donāt mean just the fallen
Nah no more traitors since dads back
The DA traitor thing has mostly gone from an early 2000's era meme to mostly a jab at Dark Angels fan nowadays
Yes, what i mean is that people think that the power of purple gives orks the ability to be sneaky even though that it's not one of the colors that gives orks power
with the Lion back tho as Adam says that meme is entirely null
well there still are those Fallen whom don't join up with Lion
If i remember
blue is lucky
Black is toughness
Yellow is explosions and fire power
And green is best
red ones go faster
Lions back to forgive them so it's null
unless they go against him and worship chaos
Yeah lets do that with a guy who fought chaos spawns his entire early life
If I recall he does almost get got by some sorcerer
I mean going to be honest, going against a primarch can end very very badly, have you seen what happened to the high lords of terra after they tried to defy guilliman?
I'm pretty sure they probably no longer exist
Yeah, the other high lords killed them because the Assassin GM was on Mr blueberry's side
He had a braincell apparently
And the Administratum boss turned tail and joined back with the loyalists, fucking up the entire coup
Because the minotaurs answered to him, and the minotaurs were everywhere
They were willing to go toe-to-toe with Custodes too
Asterion Moloc had some balls
Ah The minotaurs I thought they were something until i realized that they are just very very very bad
Typically to the civilian population
man I'm glad I finished those books last week so y'all didn't spoil all that for me

Sorry buddy i know what it's like
I mean
Nah
this is all really widespread news at this point
Expecting something good only to be spoiled by the internet
I honestly don't really care about the novels i just want to know what happens
also Regent's Shadow came out in 2020
Like any spoilers arent spoiled
I've been on a HH binge since 2018
The warhammer community site spoils shit constantly
New factions you know stuff like that
Oh yeah i entirely forgot about this


I don't really care about the stories i care about you know the structures of the universe
Like its current events
I've never read the book
I just don't read the articles that go on about lore from books that I've not read
Its not spoilers if its something you just need to know
/listened
I just absorb information via osmosis
Oh yes speaking of how do you guys think each faction will react to a talking tyranid
Disgusted
"holy shit KILL IT"
I will exclude the orks because they will just probably laugh at it and just kill it
I can memorize half of lexicanum with decent accuracy, but I can't remember two lines from my workbook 
Also this
its like people remember shit that is fun or something

12 years of school wasted
AAA-
I don't like reading lexi on subjects new to me because it lacks all the weight in the novels
Bro my brain has anatomical failure every time i try math but probably can remember every ork weaponry imaginable
Lmao literally me
University style of educating is the oldest we got
I don't like linguistics 
Where practicals are the main focus of teaching
Especially not phonetics 
The french fucking had it right with their university education
Mandatory Philosophy integration
Also dont the germans have that government thing where at the end of highschool they kinda tell you where you should go
āLike we see you want to do art history, but the engineering field for repairing Machinery is probably a better sector for you, the art can come laterā
That said I cant complain for my high school education, I did the fancy shmancy shit
International Baccalaureate
Fucking hate the kids now who dont have to do mandatory 50 hours of community service to pass
Education sucks, I just want to weld or plow a field or something
And then die young from alcohol poisoning
Well that took a turn
It's what all the sensible people did 
Society always needs a mechanic
Meanwhile I got shuffled to English because "Nooo ur good at it!"
Just don't be disgusted by flesh, it's not weak
I just want to huff gasoline
free education got me a well paying engineer desk job so I'm happy 
Chug some cheap vodka and pass out under a car 
Drinking bad
This is now my headcanon for how the mechanicus gets high
Also never really got pressured to drink
So never ever felt the want for the alcohols
Gotta huff that promethium oil shadow pack
So does anyone have art work Slaaneshi cultist or Khorne Cultists?
@ everyone here
i mean, usually with cults between fantasy/40k you just have to modernize the clothes and they are pretty much identical
I can't believe chainsawman is a 40k character
funny how with the amount of muscle-men, chain weapons and the more red like purple you could easily mistake them for khornates
are you sure these aren't just khornates?
tbf the guy in the down right angle and the the one poseidal mentioned don't help
the khorne bunny ears
yep, that one
oh, it was just a list with khornates; carry on

The Inkhornates
Aight thanks
So that what Khorne Cultists look like?
Always imagined them to be a bit more....cult-y?
Plenty of cults around, plenty of different cult aesthetic
Khorne cults are skulls, blood and meat all over the body
The more savage, the more khornate
From how youāre questioning and wording stuff, are you building a reference pool for something
Best 40k example is
yeah i was gonna drop the Shagal
Tongue Bolter
This polygon article has some bangers ngl
What the
Oh ok it posted late for some reason
Trying to look for something to complete a series of chat bots in character.ai. I have all but khorne
Unfortunately yeah
Angron literally is just a plot device at this point, but id argue hes like the only daemon primarch worthy of a fate
He was a slave then, hes a slave now, hes basically gone
The only thing that angron really recognizes now are whatever the fuck is piloting the conqueror and kharn
(Not mine just stole it from the internet somewhere)
Figured
Always some AI shit
The future is now here, my dude
Oh character ai
I must admit i have spent way too much time trying to see how accurate their recreations of characters are
Malekith Hates Snow by Herald of Tzeentch.
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Guys. Does Holy Terra still uses our own curse words like Fuck. Shit. Blyat. Merde?
So everyone just uses Kark and stuff
Kark you can hear in game, a lot
Because its the Empire's main language?
There is no main language, we just understand everyone in English for convenience
True.
So is the language we're speaking Low Gothic? Its only English for player convenience?
Yesn't
Low Gothic is the main language of the Imperium
But there are more local language still
They aren't speaking low gothic, they're speaking English
Low gothic varies locally as I understand
Fuck and Shit are still used, foreign swear words though no
you can hear them in more gritty 40k stuff like the Crime books
they just arent as said in main books due to UK book censorship law stuff
And as you know if Geedubs can make money by cheaply censoring stuff, they'll do it
UK has book censorship stuff?
All book publishings do
Its a very stupid and very complicated process, especially when you are a "brand" selling and churning out books monthly like GW
Gotta make sure you're not corrupting the youth and retaining authorial decency and shiiii
kek
Also its the ultimate hypocrisy of the thing you see in movies
"Shooting people and gore is fine"
"But no swear words or sexual content"
Blood is bad but legally distinct blue goop coming out of a dessicated robot is perfectly fine
Or they just straight up don't bother with blood like in Dune 
Lmao yeah this
It's more prominent in trailers
For games
Where you'll see literal apocalyptic bullshit
But not a single drop of blood
god im reminded of Spiderman the Animated series
where he wasn't allowed to punch anybody

Violence is okay because it cant be āreplicatedā
Which is a weird mindset
It very much can be replicated
Yeah it sure is hard to swing a baseball bat
It's so hard that my 6 year old cousin nearly took my eye out with one
British Watershed hours is weird af
But at least we get Countdown out of it
Thank you Mr League of Legends
Legally distinct blue goop for the legally distinct goop God!
That the Trynda VA?
Of what
There was a dota mod
Then Steam bought the rights to DotA which made tryndamere and ryze to make league
Valve/Steam same same
I'm surprised there's not more Eldar references
Seeing as we have two literal space Marines
Gotta use those millions for something
Wait.. How many years ago was the AoS accouncement?
personally id use my money to go to ||REDACTED||'s child hunting island where you can hunt real children for sport
Like, the first release
Wait
wasn't AoS released like eight years ago?
2015
No way its that old
Ayyyy spot on the money
You are old hark hark hark
God im good
Well its Warhammer Old World already
what? old is things like harlequin looted land raiders and squat bikers
tau and necrons are pretty new....
B-boomer

Space Wolves fielding leman russ tanks
Don't they already have the "totally legally different and distinct" space marine skin for garen and a couple of ig inspired ones?
i love samurai jack season 5
Its assumed Steel Legion is space marine
ive got no idea how to tell you tau are older than some of the people in this chat
They have chaos marine Darius
you can say reference its ok
I'm pretty sure they're older than me by at least 5 years
Ok nvm
The red coloured skin for garen is just a blood angel
I'm not
HA
Kids man

I'm barely older than the Tau lol
same
Funny cause they were also my very first models
tau have been a part of 40k for longer than a lot of 40k fans have been alive
Tau have been cooler than most of the new fans
Tau basically hand-held my journey through 40k lol
wdym
idk it's weird because me saying like "i enjoy a faction more than some people" seems like a non-sequitur
Footage of irl commander farsight
Jerma is farsight