#40k-lore-chat

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orchid lark
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now everyone and their mothers got a SCP

vale shuttle
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i once tried to write an SCP but i just couldn't get it working

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it was an anomalous mobile kill team trhat would receive extradimensional orders

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from an alternate foundation

orchid lark
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The Base

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(get it cause, a base is a foundation, and vice versa...)

crisp heath
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the problem with the scp foundation is that it became too developed by a billion different writers into an actual setting which took away from the creepy factor

crimson kayak
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wait, don't the official scp's have to get approved or somethinG?

vale shuttle
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SCPs can be removed if they get downvoted too much, or if the mods think it's bad, but you can just throw up an SCP

crimson kayak
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uh

celest dome
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I only used the SCP setting to run Delta Green game, worked quite well

crimson kayak
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i mean

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if you go look at the list

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3/4 are just ACCESS DENIED

vale shuttle
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access denied on the list is just "Here's an open number for your entry."

crimson kayak
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so i guess they did make 8 series, but didn't fill any of them fully

crisp heath
vale shuttle
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i should check back in a few years to see which SCPs get the coveted "9999" and "10000" slots

green loom
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Reminder that Stormcast are pretty based

storm jungle
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Its funny because its true

crimson kayak
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wait they can also redeem people fallen to chaos?

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i didn't knew that

storm jungle
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Its rare cases but they mostly can yeah

celest dome
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I knew there was something like that in Fantasy but not in AoS

crimson kayak
storm jungle
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Yeee exactly KEK

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AoS is high fantasy and more spirit-based with sigmar being an actually active god, so he can perform similiar miracles like that

celest dome
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In fantasy it's putting the Chaos Devotee in a large barrel with special flames that burn the Chaos Away

storm jungle
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Stormcasts have some Astartes-tier dogmatic hosts but most of them are chosen because they convey good warrior virtues and may offer redemption to some chaos warriors

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its when they constantly die and lose their personalities that they become no better than your average joe astartes which they consider a fate worse than death

storm jungle
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kek

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Or just the Destiny respawn thing

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where they can get into spots and die from where they can't get resurrected and die permanently

green loom
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Then you have Based Bastian who fought Ascendant Archeon while he was mortal, and threw his mortal ass into the anvil to get it over with

storm jungle
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šŸ™

green loom
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And Vandus
Who is a dick

vale shuttle
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everytthing i learn about AoS makes me think 40k should get an AoS-style reboot

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like, AoS seems so much more cool and fun and while i do love 40k, there's also a big pile of things i dislike

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ah well maybe one day i'll just bite the bullet and make an AoS army

green loom
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Nihilus atm has similar narrative potential to AoS

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But 40k narratives are handled so badly that you'll never get a good scenario KEKW_ogryn

vale shuttle
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it's "The Imperium of Man continues to badassfully reconquer Nihilis. They're so hot and cool."

green loom
orchid lark
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you know how I feel about those dumbasses

vale shuttle
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i'll do it

orchid lark
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i literally cant see half of memes because I blocked a lot of folks

vale shuttle
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im gonna do it

green loom
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I wonder if this counts as promoting negativity

orchid lark
vale shuttle
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bro i hate to tell you this but 40k is alreayd made to maximise corporate profits

green loom
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Yeah it's way of doing things is uniquely bad

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They pour all the good ideas into AoS and just use 40k to milk SM fans KEKW_ogryn

storm jungle
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^

orchid lark
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im happy with that

storm jungle
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Its been said all the best model makers are apparently on the AOS department which... explains a lot honestly lmao

vale shuttle
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if i were to reboot 40k the main thing i would do is make "renegade humans" a viable choice

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as well as making your own little xenos empires as well

green loom
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They are
But they're stomped out in exposure by loyalists so hard both officially and in fan content that you literally just don't see them

vale shuttle
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this way you could have people play as not-fascists without having a bunch of nerds kick down the door and be all like "THE IMPERIUM WOULD KILL THEM IN TWENTY MINUTES"

orchid lark
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if I could reboot 40k I want space marines and eldar to kiss

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have my dollies kiss each other

celest dome
green loom
celest dome
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Love can Bloom ?

orchid lark
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I'll play with my dolls how I want

vale shuttle
green loom
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Early AoS started with primaris style kits for Stormcast

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Where every weapon option was a different fkn box

vale shuttle
green loom
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Now they've moved away from that and have doubled down on it for marines KEKW_ogryn

orchid lark
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well you could always make your dudes

vale shuttle
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yes, i know

orchid lark
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GW likes when people make their little dudes cause its free word of mouth marketing

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its just the rest of everyone has something to damn well say

vale shuttle
crimson kayak
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i also like the fact in fantasy/AoS not all daemon princes are colossal monsters

orchid lark
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id add more bullshit for other factions, so they can have stupid custodes equivalents

vale shuttle
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||make harlequins eldar custodes on the tabletop please||

green loom
orchid lark
vale shuttle
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darktide discord, is it gay if i notice how thicc repentia thighs are while i paint them?

storm jungle
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No its not

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Sororitas are pretty physically peak

vale shuttle
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so i should strive for that sororitas body

green loom
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I mean idk laceration is pretty painful

vale shuttle
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pain is just weakness leaving the body or something

storm jungle
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my favorite TF2 quote

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no wait-

queen laurel
storm jungle
crimson kayak
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...why is that so familiar? i mean, outside of being ork batman

storm jungle
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its the burton batmobile, might be why lmao

crimson kayak
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oh no ok, found the culprit, the central turbine made me remember the car of the bad guy from wacky races

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even through everything else is completely different

queen laurel
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I like to imagine instead of black he's colored purple

arctic talon
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You don’t get many harlequins

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And each one hits like a goddamn truck

crimson kayak
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Yeah Eldar are arguably the only ones with a custodes equivalent in the form of harlequins

rose thorn
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I’m excited for 10th it’s definitely gonna have the biggest boom in custom subfactions

crimson kayak
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yeah, i noticed also that 10ed (alongside a couple other wargames) are moving toward more "accessible" models like the new Leviathan box ones or Warmachine's 4th edition ones that are already magnetized, so that would mean people a bit less scared to also bring said custom idea's to tabletop

rose thorn
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I think besides CSM I might mostly go with custom shit for all the factions in 40k

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And ynnari

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And demons

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But that’s a givin

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I like the white scars

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But I think I’d struggle making an army of them

orchid lark
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I have some custom stuff for csm but.. Word Bearers and Iron Warriors

rose thorn
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Word bearers šŸ’•āœØšŸ’•

orchid lark
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Word bearers are very much in my feel

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Chaos full force

rose thorn
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Yea

orchid lark
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Its the flavourful feel

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Iron Warriors is the cold steel of it

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A decent enough foil for the Space Marines own cold steel

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But you gotta cultist heavy with both for the flavour

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Which adds room to style

rose thorn
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I’m stuck between stealing a successor and making a custom

orchid lark
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For who

rose thorn
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Loyalest

orchid lark
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Word Bearers?

rose thorn
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Space marine

orchid lark
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Nothings stopping you from both

rose thorn
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True

orchid lark
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I kinda wanted to steal at first

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Loved Red Wings for Blood Angels

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And Tome Keepers

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But ended up making my own

rose thorn
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Yea I think I’m gonna be weird and make a successor for each of the non codex not counting DW

orchid lark
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Join the club

rose thorn
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But make a custom for normal marines

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Idk I haven’t found a successor im sold on

orchid lark
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I have a custom successor for each essentially

rose thorn
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I had an idea I liked for a da successor

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Who are on a quest to find a new Caliban

green loom
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Why non codex

orchid lark
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Flexible

rose thorn
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Space wolves / dark angels / blood angels have their own play styles

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Separate from space marines

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Dw too

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But they re the French vanilla of vanilla marines

orchid lark
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People forget Space Wolves is a shooty army

rose thorn
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Shame I don’t like Vikings

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Or

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Space wolves

orchid lark
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My OC successor for wolves follows the Legion Space Wolves, headhunters and trackers

green loom
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Kill all Space wolves

rose thorn
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Also technically WS are non codex but it’s only in name

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Agreed

green loom
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Except Lukas

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Being non codex compliant is skill issue ong

rose thorn
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I WILL hate space wolves

orchid lark
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There are no Wolves on Fenris

rose thorn
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ā€˜Healing powders

orchid lark
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Wink wink

rose thorn
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ICE GUNS

green loom
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Yeah they're mutated humans

rose thorn
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Except for Russ’s wolves

orchid lark
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Thunderwolves were like what

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Rhinos right?

rose thorn
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Which are giant wolves

orchid lark
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They had more common dna to a rhino

green loom
orchid lark
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There are no wolves on fenris

rose thorn
celest dome
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Think not, as they are Wolf like Spirit/Daemon, so would be guided mutation, more akin to the Skin-Wolves of Fantasy

crisp heath
orchid lark
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thats the fan assumption on Felinids

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like, did human engineering that focused on survivability just made humans change into animals

celest dome
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Wasn't it assumed to be man made modification for reasons
That are unsavoury

orchid lark
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probably

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like isnt the Grox like the most widespread animal

crisp heath
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i still find it hard to believe grox are more common than livestock we have right now when apparently horses and dogs still see widespread useage

celest dome
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Well Grox are very hardy and easy to mass produce

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Plus their hide can be used to make heavy leather

green loom
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Dogs and horses are useful for warfare, Grox are likely more logistically sound than other livestock, so got spread far and wide to make use of it

dapper cloak
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Ye grox can adapt to alot of different places

rose thorn
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Ooooo I’m gonna consume the prophets of Mercury chapter

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And use it for my future seeing dudes

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They have been considered martyr extremis

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JAGDUSAGAHHAAHHAHDHEHAHA

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AHGSGSHAHAAH

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ā€˜Oh hey the abyssal wars what is this’

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ā€œOh cool the judged, the prophets of Mercury are considered one of these dudedā€

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presses the wiki link to the judged

green loom
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Martyrdom usually means dying

rose thorn
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I see no reason they can’t be refounded

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and I can say their home planet is mercury

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And all the Mercury lore is that

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ā€˜There’s mining, and all the pykers were killed’

storm jungle
rose thorn
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jhagajjHSHSJAH

storm jungle
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anyway im done sorry

rose thorn
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NO IYS AMAIZNGgauahshha

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This neeeds to be a new warhammer meme

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Risen, the

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The risen

rose thorn
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ā€˜Who do you hail from chaos space marine’

ā€˜Fallen, the’

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Also I forgot wasn’t there whacky shit going on with solar’s sun?

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I mean

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What is Terra’s solar system called again

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Is it still solar?

green loom
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Sol/Solar

rose thorn
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Ah ok

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Wiat isn’t sol the sun?

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OH NOOO

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ā€˜Sol of the sol solar system’

green loom
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What is etymology

rose thorn
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The study of the origin of words I guess

green loom
rose thorn
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I know I wasn’t sure if they changed the name for 40k

orchid lark
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The words sun and moon are referencing the celestial bodies

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Sol is the name of the sun

rose thorn
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Anyway, wasn’t there like, a fuckinh demon or Catan shard or something in the sol sun?

orchid lark
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Much like Rao is the name of the sun for Krypton

rose thorn
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Okay so

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Sol of the sol solar system is correct

orchid lark
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Sol System

rose thorn
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Oh yeah that too

orchid lark
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Much like the Baal System

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Huh Baal is 3.4 AU from its sun

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Very cold

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It takes uh

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21 minutes for light to reach Baal

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I think?

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7 minutes to 1 AU

rose thorn
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I’m thinking for my lore it could be like ā€˜the prophets of mercury have been refounded only before a strange discovery of an uptick in pykers on the planet; believed to be caused by it being extremely close to the Sun. Mercury had formed a religious culture due to its proximity to Tera in which pykers are considered sacred figures and guide others with star readings, imperial tarots, and many other similar practices’

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ā€œWhile the newly founded chapter uses the geneseed of its predecessor the founding is still unsureā€

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And just use

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The symbol for mercury for their chapter symbol

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And I’m not sure on a color scheme

orchid lark
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Quicksilver

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The colour mercury

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And red

rose thorn
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Oooo

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Good idea

rose thorn
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my chapter's gimmick is that their pykers have visions and they believe they must ensure that the vision happens no mattter what

crimson kayak
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Oh shit now that you say it its a whole chapter of konrad kurze

coarse pumice
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the infamous harlequin land raider

coarse pumice
remote widget
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Listening to the eisenhorn series for the first time here, are Demons immune to nulls?

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Cherubael laughing in the face of a null seemed odd

celest cedar
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Guys. are the Elysian Drop Troops inspired by American airborne divisions? 101st? 82nd?

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Are they the "American" regiments. alongside the Harakoni Warhawks?

summer rover
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the US isn't the only one with airborne troops, mate. and the stupid carrying handles everywhere suggest they're probably some EU faction.

storm jungle
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Cherubael is crazy OP its why hes like "Bitch get out of my face lmao"

arctic talon
celest cedar
celest cedar
arctic talon
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The same way krieg is mostly French and British except for the helmet and naming convention

celest cedar
astral whale
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Isn’t that the Arbites whole thing?

green loom
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"Justice is a tool poisoned by heretical manipulations, trust only in your righteous faith and let not the arguments of the wicked sway you"

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Is how I imagine a particularly Puritan inquisitor would yap about it

thick cedar
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What do staves do? Do they just help "ground" the psyker when casting?

rose thorn
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SOMEONES FUCKINH WITH IT I SWEAR LMAO

green loom
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More likely the website's borked

winter vessel
rose thorn
rose thorn
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Oh wiat

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I found a better chaoter to eat

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For my future vision guys

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The imperial stars

odd palm
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To eat?

crisp heath
rose thorn
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I mean lex and fandom

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I DONT KNOW

crisp heath
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Yeah but like that's how an encyclopedia entry is supposed to be formatted

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"[Subject], The" so that it can be searched alphabetically, otherwise you'd just have 90% of your articles under "The"

rose thorn
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Since they have zero lore

odd palm
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Ah, fair

rose thorn
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Okay here’s all the chapters I picked who’s name fits the theme

Imperial stars
Vorpal Blades
Star scorpions
Silver Swords
And marines August

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Knocking off mariens august

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Because the name is stupid

odd palm
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Good thing you didn't choose star scorpions XD

rose thorn
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They were on my list

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Why?

odd palm
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Name's got some baggage

rose thorn
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Star scorpions?

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Why

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??

odd palm
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Chaos corrupted chapter

rose thorn
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Ohh

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Okay then yeah imperial stars but I’ll improve the color scheme

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Everyone give round of aplaws for the imperial stars

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You will be inducted into my leviathan box

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Or the space marine combat patrol if it’s gets

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Scalped as fuck

odd palm
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Not a fan of the purple scheme?

rose thorn
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I@liek it

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There’s just

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Tooooo much purple

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But I did want purple

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Gw bless that old as fuck painting guide for random ass chapter

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This is prettt good lol

odd palm
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Fair, safe bet is to opt for silver and/or black to break up the purple.
Avoiding gold helps dodge the countless "Are they EC?"

rose thorn
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Yeah the black totally

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Black pauldren purple lines

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In the symbol

summer rover
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good ol' limemarines....

rose thorn
hushed kayak
rose thorn
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Well they are royal purple broken by gold and white

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This is koolaid purple

hushed kayak
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lmao

rose thorn
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Hey so I know first captains for the founding chapters are like

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Usually best friends with the chapter master

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Does that trend follow for successors?

orchid lark
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Yes

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First Captains are typically Regents

queen laurel
echo vault
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Favorite weapon pattern? The phaestos pattern flamer and all the Elysian drop trooper variants of weapons are very cool I hope we get more

crimson kayak
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Krieg trench shotgun and merovech lasgun (sadly this one doesn't have images)

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Also the navis las-volley too

crimson kayak
celest dome
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Not sure where it's from though

crimson kayak
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It should be from a rogue trader expansion

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Into the storm if I remember right?

celest dome
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For the Krieg, you want it as a new pattern or just cosmetic ?

crimson kayak
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Could work as a new pattern

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But even as a cosmetic only it would be good

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I just want a revolving shotgun

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Like, God damn

celest dome
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Not sure how the special ammo would work i the case of a revolving shotgun, and the reload would take longer

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Maybe it would need to be a separate shotgun

crimson kayak
celest dome
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Could work

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Could be fun

crimson kayak
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Btw I was looking at the lexicanum acolyte page, and just looking at the archetypes there could be some cool ideas for future classes

crimson kayak
rose thorn
crimson kayak
celest dome
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For Vet, Zealot, Zealot and Zealot ?

crimson kayak
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Vet, zealot, either, vet

celest dome
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When you say seeker, you mean the Daemonine Seeker or the Seeker group (Cult Stalker, Judge...)

crimson kayak
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Seeker group, basically an arbites/enforcer origin class

celest dome
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Oh ok

crimson kayak
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Hierophants as a form of support class obviously and well, Desperado would encompass all the Hive ganger/actually a criminal backgrounds

celest dome
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I want to see a Zealot Enforcer as the/a ranged class, maybe with mechanic like the Witch Hunter (Pinged enemy take more damages), and Grail Knight or bounties

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Vet I care the least about, but I think a Veteran Commissar,and a Veteran Stormtrooper

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Zealto getting Crusader, Enforcer and Death Cult Assassin

compact crescent
celest dome
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That's a Grenade Launcher though

compact crescent
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looks close enoughKEKW_ogryn

crimson kayak
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Oh, there's also the Ryza pattern that I can't manage to comprehend how it's supposed to work

storm jungle
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it works by the power of 80's

orchid lark
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loads like a garand

storm jungle
crimson kayak
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Now that I think about it the new cadians also have this one that is really good looking

storm jungle
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Its basically a more HD kantreal

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hate it

crimson kayak
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I mean, not really?

storm jungle
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I hate it.

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i like the old one more

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brutalist and blocky

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even Darktide uses it

crimson kayak
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luckily with the new models you get both

storm jungle
crimson kayak
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it's true lol

celest dome
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Special Powerpack, the thing in front of the trigger is the Power pack

orchid lark
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return to rifle stocks

rare knoll
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They are shock troopers, they have a carbine version of the lasgun. Makes sense to me Shrug

green loom
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That's not the carbine version

rare knoll
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Oh yeah because theres TOTALLY only one type of carbine lasgun

storm jungle
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I genuinely doubt anyone looked at cadians and went "we totally know what shock troops are, give them a gun like this"

rare knoll
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Its the same rifle, just a different casing. YOu can see with the barrel and mag

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But whatever floats ya boat

storm jungle
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I'm entirely aware

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I just like the old blocky version

celest dome
rare knoll
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I mean, Its obvious isn't it? I don't think the new shock troopers have their own lore on their lasguns

green loom
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It's just a rifle stock lasgun, not a carbine or anything practical

storm jungle
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^

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Theres only like 3-4 guns in the tabletop/lore outright called carbines too

summer rover
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lasguns being carbines doesn't make sense anyways, because why would you need to tell if the barrel has threading if it's hooting light....

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stupid brits, at least learn about guns if you're gonna use the lingo...

spare quartz
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Words can be adapted to mean different things, especially if they refer to similar things on a high level

storm jungle
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Or as Orin said its just writers learning terminology from wikipedia

rare knoll
green loom
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Spoiler: they don't

celest dome
crimson kayak
orchid thicket
arctic talon
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Also the current guard minis

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Still have the old karental lasgun

crimson kayak
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Yep, they use both

crimson kayak
arctic talon
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Wait

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Lmfao

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The GW storefront only shows the shock trooper build

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For guardsmen

crimson kayak
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??

arctic talon
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And not the infantry squad

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Cadian shock troopers don’t get heavy weapons they get 2 special weapons

crimson kayak
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Wait... Weren't the old infantry squad still cadian shock troopers?

arctic talon
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Yes

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But they were called infantry squad

storm jungle
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They got some different guns in-between tho its mostly just las i think

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Like a stub tommy gun

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also a beltfed one

arctic talon
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Not cadian shock troopers

arctic talon
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The shock trooper poses have them running

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That’s actually weird as shit

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Ngl

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That it doesn’t show the basic infantry squad

coarse pumice
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Lasguns?

rare knoll
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Yeah, Infantry squads CAN just be Cadian Soldiers. Shock troopers are special since they are really on the move and arn't used to hold points

arctic talon
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Yeah but there’s 2 dif builds for the current guardsmen kit

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And it’s weird they don’t show both

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Imo

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every other dual build box shows both

coarse pumice
rare knoll
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I mean you could buy the Death Korp kill team for the same price, and catachans if you hate yourself

arctic talon
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šŸ’€

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It’s just weird

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Bcs GW has fully assembled infantry squad minis of the new Cadians

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Bcs they’re shown off in the fucking codex

crimson kayak
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I mean, they are also moving toward twist-in models seeing the ones on the leviathan box so I mean, at that point just wait and update the models again lol

crisp heath
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Do shock troopers have different rules than regular guard squads

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I thought cadians just called their infantry shock troops

crimson kayak
crimson kayak
rare knoll
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But now they have sticky objectives

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as their special rule

crisp heath
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interestin

rare knoll
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I'm just happy we can bring them in units of 20 now. I've waited so long

arctic talon
crimson kayak
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Oh really

arctic talon
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GW makes non monopose versions later

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Yeah

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Launch boxes are almost always mono pose

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For warhammer

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Or they are limited posing

shadow plover
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this is correct

crimson kayak
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Well that just got me way less excited

arctic talon
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The only kit that’s always pushfit is the blight hauler iirc

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Mostly because it’s actual mold

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Broke

shadow plover
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some units do stay in their launch kits like most the necrons did this edition afaik

arctic talon
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But they still have the easy to build one

arctic talon
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The warriors aren’t monobuild

shadow plover
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not monobuild but pretty much snap fit with two weapon options

arctic talon
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I mean yeah

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That’s old warriors as well

shadow plover
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the destroyers also stayed monopose right? They don't require much extra work to do some modifications I recon though

rare knoll
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Optimus prime would beat the shit out of an imperial knight fs

shadow plover
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yeah the kit is pretty stellar otherwise do I don't really mind at least

hallow saddle
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With the heavy destroyers yeah they're monopose but I just built 3 last month and you can switch up the poses a bit by cutting and pinning the waist and doing a little cutting and pinning with the arms. And the head

crimson kayak
rare knoll
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Nah, optimus prime is cool as fuck

shadow plover
storm jungle
#

hes basically got the mobility of an eldar knight and the firepower of an Imperial knight combined

echo vault
orchid lark
#

(Armada Optimus is best Optimus)

shadow plover
#

the image of optimus is utterly ruined by the snyder movies sadly

orchid lark
#

Snyder Optimus

#

This guy is from another universe

#

Dilara kick him out

shadow plover
#

ohshit oh fuck meant bay

shadow plover
#

they're basically the same dude

#

both make awful movies from good ideas

orchid lark
#

nah

#

they make cool as fuck movies

celest dome
#

I'm too young, I only know the Bay Transformer

orchid lark
#

I watch the bayverse transformers cause I want to watch machines punching shit

shadow plover
#

sure but the optimus in it is just horrible

orchid lark
#

nah he's cool

#

not Armada Cool

#

but cool

shadow plover
#

dude fucking brutally murders a defeated enemy

#

oh and killed humans too

#

first movie optimus was cool

orchid lark
#

thats what made the Fall and War of cybertron awesome

#

War criminal Optimus wrecking shit

#

wrong link

#

i mean this link

#

An Optimus that goes to the deep end to uphold the values he holds dear

#

is a cool optimus

shadow plover
#

the bay optimus pretty much abandons those values though

crimson kayak
storm jungle
crimson kayak
#

Hey, not my problem if there's 1 gazillion timelines per franchise lol

#

After all let's remember movie transformers had to hide From humans for a while

crisp heath
orchid lark
#

the coolest of coolest optimus was GI Joe Optimus

storm jungle
#

Him shooting sentinel prime in the face as he begs for mercy will never stop being fucking funny to me

#

its so good

crimson kayak
crimson kayak
#

Second only probably to armada, but armada it's armada

storm jungle
#

YES

#

YES

orchid lark
#

FUCK

storm jungle
#

THAT CLIP

#

GOD

orchid lark
#

WE posted the same video

storm jungle
#

"NOO OPTIMUS AUGH-"

orchid lark
#

i think last year

crisp heath
orchid lark
#

or the year before

#

i watched that video

#

like daily

crimson kayak
# storm jungle GOD

only thing I don't like is that Optimus doesn't say Optimus Yes when he shoots him

crimson kayak
orchid lark
#

Optimus Prime Gaming

#

yeah...Cobra Optimus

crisp heath
#

that seems out of character

green loom
#

Do watch the Pointless Hub videos on the Bay movies, they are entertaining thumbsup_ogryn

crisp heath
#

its funny cody's second channel is better than his main

crimson kayak
#

Anyhow yeah, I think a movie Optimus could definetly fight off a Questoris or below, but anything over it reaches the "House with chainsaws and guns of the dark age of tech" size and firepower so I guess he would start struggling a lot more with larger classes

green loom
crisp heath
#

he was very critical of his earlier videos

green loom
#

He's quite the funny individual

#

A joker you could say

coarse pumice
celest dome
#

Eldar hellgun ?

coarse pumice
#

the Ryza looks like it's based on this

#

but the Eldar one has the battery pack and the cable to the suit which has it's own power generator

#

the battery mag placement puts the forward grip area further forward

#

no stock or sights, but I assume with the cable there's a helmet hud which shows where the gun is pointing

crimson kayak
#

Isn't that a fire Lance?

coarse pumice
#

and as a laser weapon, no recoil so it would be just hipfired

#

it's just a lasgun

crimson kayak
#

Uh

celest dome
#

Not sure if I would say that the Ryza Lasgun

#

is inspired by it

#

Instead of just Ray Punk aesthetic

coarse pumice
crimson kayak
#

I mean, the Ryza is literally the part of the gun after the magazine with an handle and a trigger

coarse pumice
#

the silhouette is like the front part of the Eldar lasgun

#

but the Eldar one looks less alien (kerbe)

crimson kayak
#

Found the new version of the Eldar one

summer rover
#

the ryza just uses the same powerpack as the laspistol. it's in the handle. other than that it's pretty straightforward.

crimson kayak
#

Las-pistols don't have the power pack in the handle?

#

I mean, except the necromunda one, but that's basically a small ryza

summer rover
#

that's the old laspistol style, yes.

celest dome
#

Only the Heavy Las Pistol use the normal Mag types

#

I though the power pack was at the back (Silver part)

summer rover
#

whole design is a mess

crimson kayak
#

Yeah I think looking at the pistol that the weird coil part is the mag

#

In the ryza-styled

#

As someone also said before I think

summer rover
#

they keep making the grips too thin, i wonder why.

celest dome
crimson kayak
#

Or Atleast the central grey area looks similar

summer rover
#

that's the best laspstol design i've seen yet.

#

it's even got sights!

#

why can't we have that one in game.

crimson kayak
#

It's from the old Inquisitor specialist game

celest dome
crimson kayak
celest dome
#

Wait what ?

crimson kayak
#

Recons are much better in lore

#

They just have shorter range than other lasguns

crisp heath
#

lemme dual wield stub pistols pls

crimson kayak
#

But you know, being a drop troop you don't really care as you are basically a 40k odst

celest dome
#

Lasgun have different power setting, I assume the Reccon are on low power

crimson kayak
#

Now if only we had a reason to keep them on low power when we also use the heavy maintenance hungry lucius

celest dome
crisp heath
#

I don't know how canon the ffg games still are but in only war the bullpup is the same as the m36 lasgun but with a little less range and weighing slightly less

crimson kayak
# celest dome Gameplay reason?

True, but with the same explanation I go back to point 1 where for the same gameplay reason a normal laspistol shouldn't necessarily be that much weaker than the heavy we have

crisp heath
crimson kayak
#

Hell, half the patterns are specially made for the ffg games

arctic talon
#

Or they show up in art

#

And are unnamed

#

Forever

echo vault
#

Malekith may say ulthuan is his birth right but that doesn't remove all the arrows in him from my lothern sea guard turning him and his dragon into a pin cushion, which was hilarious seeing a mythical figure of the warhammer fantasy series fall like 10 stories off of his dragon to his likely doom

coarse pumice
#

I kind of feel all the later stuff was kind of weak, like silly superhero stuff

celest dome
#

The End Time lire that is the worst is anything portraying the Skaven

green loom
#

You mean using the "skaven shenanigans" plot device that makes you wonder what the point of the other chaos factions was?

celest dome
#

Mostly the fact that for most of the Skaven lore pre ET it was told to be basically the biggest force around but more preoccupied on backstabbing each other. And in the ET they work all together

echo vault
#

fuck your cathay, fuck your pretty much every faction, the great horned rat knows just how to annoy you because he's the one who wrote the end times skaven lore, yes the great horned rat himself

#

it is he the great horned rat who unlocked thorgrim grudgebearers chamber doors, it is he who allied with chaos because it would be funny, he was the one who told ikit claw to blow up the moon

celest dome
#

At that time nobody cared about Cathay

echo vault
#

rathay

#

the only reason cathay wasn't mentioned in the end times outside of being destroyed by the skaven was because afterwards the skaven did some very racist things pertaining to cathayan ethnicity

celest dome
echo vault
#

rat, ratcist

green loom
#

It was destroyed by Tzeentchian rebels/incursions and Grimgor I thought

summer rover
#

neither were confirmed. grimgor headed that way and died to the ogres, and cathay was attacked but tzeentch cults but nothing implied they were overrun aside from the whole "end times was about fluffing the chaos forces everywehre" thing

arctic talon
#

Almost all of the Cathay stuff that’s recognizable today is from total war warhammer 3

echo vault
#

ye

burnt maple
#

OH, SWEET EMPEROR, DIDN'T KNOW THIS CHAT EXISTS XD

Or at least forgot it exists.

storm jungle
#

Probably the only safe channel in the group

green loom
#

The best chat

celest dome
#

Theorycrafting is alright

burnt maple
#

The best indeed.

Inhales

Tyranids are the worst faction in 40k. No value whatsoever except cool models.

#

Right next to Alpha Legion whose whole shtick is knowing nothing about them.

green loom
#

And stupid

storm jungle
#

The best take.

orchid lark
#

Alpha Legion had never gone past meme status for 40k

#

they have individually cool characters and units in 30k, but are just like

#

whatever for 40k

#

they wiped out a chapter of space marines over the course of centuries? cool, some shmuck warband did it in a decade

coarse pumice
#

I think Chaos in general had become a giant meme by the time the 2nd edition codex came out

orchid lark
#

they got some good stand alone

#

Chaos sucks if its the antagonist for any story

#

because they're just evil cartoon dudes

green loom
#

Fighting evil cartoon dudes

orchid lark
#

Chaos as the main characters got some good'uns

storm jungle
#

Chaos works because you dont have people huffing copium that they are the "good guys"

#

They are the decepticons of the setting and it works pretty well

coarse pumice
#

Early on chaos was like a hidden corruptions, and chaos marines were more like the renegade chapters

orchid lark
#

they just need a good comic soundwave for the real evil

coarse pumice
#

Then the 2nd ed book came and they became like a comic book

storm jungle
orchid lark
storm jungle
#

because Alpha Legion SUCKS

green loom
#

You must have seen the guys defending chaos/traitors as good

#

I've met so many

coarse pumice
#

The Huron campaign was like a retreading of that idea

orchid lark
shadow plover
#

I like the Alpha legionaries Abnett brings up most of the time

#

but the whole legion is whatever

green loom
#

The Redacted?

storm jungle
#

Abnett is pretty bad

green loom
#

Wait no

queen laurel
storm jungle
#

they arent tho

#

thats the thing

#

they are all traitors

green loom
#

Yeah not really

storm jungle
#

the fandom just literally huffs copium that theres loyalists elements

#

the problem is they are never mentioned

#

because tabletop wise they are all chaos alligned

green loom
#

They are all brainwashed with code phrases, this can never backfire at all staregryn

orchid lark
#

Alpha legionn dont even know the fuck theyre doing because theyre too decentralized

#

i wont be surprised if they self sabotage one another without realising

queen laurel
green loom
#

The example people use for loyalist AL aren't AL and they aren't loyalists KEKW_ogryn

orchid lark
coarse pumice
#

The Dark Angels traitor thing too?

storm jungle
coarse pumice
#

I don’t mean just the fallen

orchid lark
#

Nah no more traitors since dads back

storm jungle
#

The DA traitor thing has mostly gone from an early 2000's era meme to mostly a jab at Dark Angels fan nowadays

queen laurel
storm jungle
#

with the Lion back tho as Adam says that meme is entirely null

green loom
#

I said it a while ago

#

I'll say it again

#

The Ork colours may not even do anything KEKW_ogryn

shadow plover
#

well there still are those Fallen whom don't join up with Lion

queen laurel
#

If i remember

blue is lucky
Black is toughness
Yellow is explosions and fire power
And green is best

shadow plover
#

red ones go faster

green loom
shadow plover
#

unless they go against him and worship chaos

orchid lark
#

Yeah lets do that with a guy who fought chaos spawns his entire early life

green loom
#

If I recall he does almost get got by some sorcerer

queen laurel
#

I'm pretty sure they probably no longer exist

green loom
#

Yeah, the other high lords killed them because the Assassin GM was on Mr blueberry's side

storm jungle
#

He had a braincell apparently

green loom
#

And the Administratum boss turned tail and joined back with the loyalists, fucking up the entire coup

#

Because the minotaurs answered to him, and the minotaurs were everywhere

storm jungle
#

They were willing to go toe-to-toe with Custodes too

orchid lark
#

Asterion Moloc had some balls

queen laurel
#

Typically to the civilian population

shadow plover
#

man I'm glad I finished those books last week so y'all didn't spoil all that for me

orchid lark
#

I didn’t read the books

#

So you spoiled me

shadow plover
queen laurel
storm jungle
#

I mean

orchid lark
#

Nah

storm jungle
#

this is all really widespread news at this point

queen laurel
#

Expecting something good only to be spoiled by the internet

orchid lark
#

I treat 40k lore like current events

#

I just need to know

queen laurel
#

I honestly don't really care about the novels i just want to know what happens

storm jungle
#

also Regent's Shadow came out in 2020

orchid lark
#

Like any spoilers arent spoiled

queen laurel
#

I'm just looking for new additions really

#

New monsters

shadow plover
orchid lark
#

The warhammer community site spoils shit constantly

queen laurel
#

New factions you know stuff like that

storm jungle
orchid lark
queen laurel
#

I don't really care about the stories i care about you know the structures of the universe

orchid lark
#

Like its current events

green loom
#

I've never read the book

shadow plover
#

I just don't read the articles that go on about lore from books that I've not read

orchid lark
#

Its not spoilers if its something you just need to know

shadow plover
#

/listened

green loom
#

I just absorb information via osmosis

queen laurel
#

Oh yes speaking of how do you guys think each faction will react to a talking tyranid

orchid lark
#

Disgusted

storm jungle
#

"holy shit KILL IT"

queen laurel
#

I will exclude the orks because they will just probably laugh at it and just kill it

green loom
#

I can memorize half of lexicanum with decent accuracy, but I can't remember two lines from my workbook thumbsup_ogryn

storm jungle
#

Also this

#

its like people remember shit that is fun or something

#

12 years of school wasted

orchid lark
#

Nah Dilara youre just a bad student

storm jungle
#

AAA-

shadow plover
#

I don't like reading lexi on subjects new to me because it lacks all the weight in the novels

queen laurel
storm jungle
#

Lmao literally me

orchid lark
#

All ork weaponry are made up

#

Thats not fair

storm jungle
#

so is education to be fair

orchid lark
#

Modern education is made up

#

Yes

#

Fuck you Industrialism

queen laurel
#

I love the fact that homework used to be a punishment but became commonplace

orchid lark
#

University style of educating is the oldest we got

green loom
#

I don't like linguistics thumbsdown_ogryn

orchid lark
#

Where practicals are the main focus of teaching

green loom
#

Especially not phonetics thumbsdown_ogryn

orchid lark
#

The french fucking had it right with their university education

#

Mandatory Philosophy integration

#

Also dont the germans have that government thing where at the end of highschool they kinda tell you where you should go

#

ā€œLike we see you want to do art history, but the engineering field for repairing Machinery is probably a better sector for you, the art can come laterā€

#

That said I cant complain for my high school education, I did the fancy shmancy shit

#

International Baccalaureate

#

Fucking hate the kids now who dont have to do mandatory 50 hours of community service to pass

green loom
#

Education sucks, I just want to weld or plow a field or something

#

And then die young from alcohol poisoning

queen laurel
#

Well that took a turn

orchid lark
#

That sounds realistic

#

I wish I learned how to be a mechanic

green loom
#

It's what all the sensible people did KEKW_ogryn

orchid lark
#

Society always needs a mechanic

green loom
#

Meanwhile I got shuffled to English because "Nooo ur good at it!"

queen laurel
orchid lark
shadow plover
#

free education got me a well paying engineer desk job so I'm happy thumbsup_ogryn

green loom
#

Chug some cheap vodka and pass out under a car whatthefuck_heresy

orchid lark
#

Drinking bad

queen laurel
orchid lark
#

Also never really got pressured to drink

#

So never ever felt the want for the alcohols

queen laurel
#

Gotta huff that promethium oil shadow pack

orchid lark
#

We should get Amasec equippables in dark tide

#

Make all our shots unsteady

versed ledge
#

So does anyone have art work Slaaneshi cultist or Khorne Cultists?

celest dome
#

Fantasy/AoS/40k ?

#

And official or not ?

green loom
#

@ everyone here

crimson kayak
green loom
#

I can't believe chainsawman is a 40k character

crimson kayak
# storm jungle

funny how with the amount of muscle-men, chain weapons and the more red like purple you could easily mistake them for khornates

storm jungle
#

Yup

#

Slaanesh though is more about body mutilation and hedonism but Khorne is close

coarse pumice
#

are you sure these aren't just khornates?

crimson kayak
coarse pumice
#

the khorne bunny ears

crimson kayak
#

yep, that one

coarse pumice
#

oh, it was just a list with khornates; carry on

green loom
#

The Inkhornates

versed ledge
versed ledge
#

So that what Khorne Cultists look like?

#

Always imagined them to be a bit more....cult-y?

celest dome
#

Plenty of cults around, plenty of different cult aesthetic

green loom
#

Khorne cults are skulls, blood and meat all over the body

#

The more savage, the more khornate

orchid lark
crimson kayak
#

yeah i was gonna drop the Shagal

coarse pumice
#

check out the chaos dude

crimson kayak
green loom
#

This polygon article has some bangers ngl

#

What the

#

Oh ok it posted late for some reason

versed ledge
storm jungle
#

Angron literally is just a plot device at this point, but id argue hes like the only daemon primarch worthy of a fate

#

He was a slave then, hes a slave now, hes basically gone

arctic talon
#

The only thing that angron really recognizes now are whatever the fuck is piloting the conqueror and kharn

crisp heath
versed ledge
#

The future is now here, my dude

queen laurel
#

I must admit i have spent way too much time trying to see how accurate their recreations of characters are

orchid lark
#

As I always say

#

Block them AI fucks

echo vault
celest cedar
#

Guys. Does Holy Terra still uses our own curse words like Fuck. Shit. Blyat. Merde?

celest dome
#

Most likely not

#

As the ancient languages are mostly lost to the time

green loom
#

Feth, Frak, Kark

#

Though I think feth is a tanith thing

celest cedar
#

So everyone just uses Kark and stuff

green loom
#

Kark you can hear in game, a lot

celest cedar
#

Because its the Empire's main language?

green loom
#

There is no main language, we just understand everyone in English for convenience

celest cedar
#

True.

#

So is the language we're speaking Low Gothic? Its only English for player convenience?

celest dome
#

Yesn't

#

Low Gothic is the main language of the Imperium

#

But there are more local language still

green loom
#

They aren't speaking low gothic, they're speaking English

#

Low gothic varies locally as I understand

storm jungle
#

you can hear them in more gritty 40k stuff like the Crime books

#

they just arent as said in main books due to UK book censorship law stuff

green loom
#

And as you know if Geedubs can make money by cheaply censoring stuff, they'll do it

ivory canyon
#

UK has book censorship stuff?

storm jungle
#

All book publishings do

#

Its a very stupid and very complicated process, especially when you are a "brand" selling and churning out books monthly like GW

green loom
#

Gotta make sure you're not corrupting the youth and retaining authorial decency and shiiii

storm jungle
#

kek

#

Also its the ultimate hypocrisy of the thing you see in movies

#

"Shooting people and gore is fine"

#

"But no swear words or sexual content"

green loom
#

Blood is bad but legally distinct blue goop coming out of a dessicated robot is perfectly fine

#

Or they just straight up don't bother with blood like in Dune KEKW_ogryn

storm jungle
#

Lmao yeah this

green loom
#

It's more prominent in trailers

#

For games

#

Where you'll see literal apocalyptic bullshit
But not a single drop of blood

storm jungle
#

god im reminded of Spiderman the Animated series

#

where he wasn't allowed to punch anybody

green loom
orchid lark
#

Violence is okay because it cant be ā€œreplicatedā€

#

Which is a weird mindset

#

It very much can be replicated

green loom
#

Yeah it sure is hard to swing a baseball bat

#

It's so hard that my 6 year old cousin nearly took my eye out with one

orchid lark
#

British Watershed hours is weird af

#

But at least we get Countdown out of it

#

Thank you Mr League of Legends

crimson kayak
green loom
orchid lark
#

No

#

That is Tryndamere

#

As in one of the two founders

green loom
#

Of what

orchid lark
#

The OG Dota mod

#

And league of legends itself

green loom
#

There was a dota mod

orchid lark
#

Tryndamere and Ryze

#

Yeah

#

DotA

#

As in

#

DotA 1

green loom
#

Defence of the Ancients

#

I preferred that one warcraft 3 mod

crimson kayak
#

...

#

That's dota

#

Dota1 is the war craft mod

orchid lark
#

Then Steam bought the rights to DotA which made tryndamere and ryze to make league

#

Valve/Steam same same

green loom
#

I'm surprised there's not more Eldar references

#

Seeing as we have two literal space Marines

orchid lark
#

He kinda got into 40k and AoS like

#

4 years ago

#

I think he likes AoS more

green loom
#

No surprise there

#

Correct opinion

orchid lark
#

Gotta use those millions for something

crimson kayak
#

Wait.. How many years ago was the AoS accouncement?

green loom
#

Waiting for Warhammer/League Collab tbh

#

What AoS announcement

vale shuttle
crimson kayak
orchid lark
#

Wait

vale shuttle
#

wasn't AoS released like eight years ago?

orchid lark
#

When did AoS start anyway

#

Really?

green loom
#

2015

orchid lark
#

No way its that old

storm jungle
#

It is that old

vale shuttle
#

Ayyyy spot on the money

green loom
#

You are old hark hark hark

vale shuttle
#

God im good

orchid lark
#

Well its Warhammer Old World already

orchid lark
coarse pumice
#

what? old is things like harlequin looted land raiders and squat bikers

#

tau and necrons are pretty new....

green loom
#

B-boomer

coarse pumice
orchid lark
#

Space Wolves fielding leman russ tanks

crimson kayak
orchid lark
vale shuttle
green loom
echo vault
#

tau came out 5th edition so 2003?

#

no 3rd

green loom
#

Ok nvm

orchid lark
#

The red coloured skin for garen is just a blood angel

echo vault
#

Tau were introduced late 2001

#

Yes i'm older than the tau

green loom
#

I'm not

echo vault
#

HA

orchid lark
#

Kids man

green loom
crimson kayak
#

I'm barely older than the Tau lol

vale shuttle
#

same

crimson kayak
#

Funny cause they were also my very first models

vale shuttle
#

tau have been a part of 40k for longer than a lot of 40k fans have been alive

orchid lark
#

Tau have been cooler than most of the new fans

crimson kayak
#

Tau basically hand-held my journey through 40k lol

vale shuttle
orchid lark
#

I prefer the tau over some people in our hobby

#

Whats there to get

vale shuttle
#

idk it's weird because me saying like "i enjoy a faction more than some people" seems like a non-sequitur

echo vault
#

Footage of irl commander farsight

orchid lark
#

Jerma is farsight