but why
#40k-lore-chat
vale shuttle
crystal forum
damn serbia is a lot smaller than i thought
green loom
Ok nvm lmao
Must've been the state
People here tend to be really stupid and embellish a ton
Still 1/10th the size so not as small as I thought 
crystal forum
Must've been the state
the state is like 50 000 square km larger than serbia lol
green loom
Yep
crystal forum
man we have so much empty space in north america
celest cedar
everyone pretty much lived in either plains, near lakes, near sea
crystal forum
no no we're talking about merica
storm jungle
god damn it
crystal forum
the ancient terran country
storm jungle
don't get started on the gun-tribes
crystal forum
i'd like to talk about 40k tanks but there's barely any stories about them
orchid lark
i did ask whether felinids look like Felicity from dark stalkers
green loom
Who's Felicity
storm jungle
i'd like to talk about 40k tanks but there's barely any stories about them
Im half sure there ARE tank novels
orchid lark
Battle of Tallarn was a tank battle
storm jungle
here it is lmao
crystal forum
Im half sure there ARE tank novels
i found one literally called baneblade and some redditors talked about tank portions of books
orchid lark
but what about the tank proportions of tanks
crystal forum
problem is there's just a couple of books
orchid lark
tank proportions of books
storm jungle
problem is there's just a couple of books
Yeah well tank books are a niche
space marine time
vale shuttle
problem is there's just a couple of books
some factions only have a couple of books
like dark eldar
vale shuttle
also dilara's right, if they make another tank book that's a space marine book that WASN'T written
orchid lark
fucking tankers man
crystal forum
Yeah well tank books are a niche
i'll be honest, from my time on the internet i've realized that the most rabid fanbase is tank fanatics
orchid lark
but i want more space marine battles books
vale shuttle
jimmy space when he can't read his 25th space marine book
orchid lark
because of that awesome cover art
crystal forum
like dark eldar
yeah but dark eldar are the stereotypical bad guys
orchid lark
nah theyre good
vale shuttle
they're also a whole faction??
crystal forum
tankers are part of the imperium which means they should be a ton more lore
orchid lark
titans are tanks that walk
crystal forum
but 40k is so infantry focused
crystal forum
then you have a chimera
vale shuttle
infantrynaren't in tanks
everyone knows tanks are piloted by little goblins
called tank goblins
orchid lark
oh you cant call them that
vale shuttle
they steal your ammunition at night
orchid lark
thats their word
crystal forum
what i find funny about the leman russ is that all its cannons clearly don't fit the turret
crystal forum
i'm not one to be a tank nerd for fictional tanks but come on the leman russ model could have benefited from a larger turret to attach more shit to it
arctic talon
Old
crystal forum
meanwhile the rogal dorn's turret can fit 3 people on it
crystal forum
ok
but imperial tanks are still wonky on the tabletop
you get 3 options and only the leman russ is worth it
the baneblade is almost useless
worst part is you can't mount autocannons on the sponsons
green loom
Boom
green loom
No
crystal forum
it's like the mastodon
good stats
but the points 
my solution is to print a malcador
HOWEVER
it's in the forge world rules
crystal forum
It’s from 1999
that's recent right?
arctic talon
No
crystal forum
just 10 years ago
arctic talon
It’s pre GW using CAD
arctic talon
just 10 years ago
24 years
arctic talon
vale shuttle
Boom
this thing would just drop a knight instantly
and has a very good chance of dropping a primarch instantly
crystal forum
it's not even the most powerful gun
the shadowsword is made to kill titans
wait no that's a shadowsword
but wahapedia says the volcano cannon has 120" range
green loom
It's from that new index thing or whatever
crystal forum
i remember reading about one of those in a gaunt's ghosts book
they're like massive HQ's that can train, repair equipment and pretty much everything a front needs
they'll probably try to hide potential bad direction with flashy visuals yeah
i just wonder how much say GW will have
arctic talon
i just wonder how much say GW will have
GW is pretty aggressive with things being faithful tone wise
But Amazon could come up with their own vehicles and reasonably pass it off as being in 40k
Tons of barely touched vehicle designs only mentioned in name
orchid lark
the Bezos pattern
crystal forum
books make up vehicles all the time
it's genuinely annoying when they invent a name for a vehicle and you can't find it anywhere in the wikis
arctic talon
Tbh
I’d rather Amazon make their own vehicle then a shitty adaptation
Or just call it a local pattern
(Knock off baneblades my beloved)
rose thorn
Amazon?
crystal forum
oh yeah made up vehicles are great to add variety to a supposedly massive imperium
orchid lark
throwback to when Jay didnt know what Atoman Pattern Leman Russes were
crystal forum
I'm just saying
GW could make a killing by selling custom 3d model files for tank flavors
rose thorn
GW could make a killing by selling custom 3d model files for tank flavors
Until they get leaked
Lmao
orchid lark
different versions of the basilisk tanks
celest dome
GW could make a killing by selling custom 3d model files for tank flavors
Or they can continue making a killing on the longer term with selling the tank parts
orchid lark
covered up the Earthshaker cannons
crystal forum
it was Forgeworld
official subsidiary of GW that can't be used in competitions 
celest dome
Teach a man to fish and all that
crystal forum
Or they can continue making a killing on the longer term with selling the tank p...
but they don't sell much variety because they need to make molds and those suck for small scale production. maybe not selling files but selling 3d printed variants would be great
rose thorn
OHHHHH, THE COMPANY OHHH
celest dome
but they don't sell much variety because they need to make molds and those suck ...
Selling resin is cheaper for smaller batches
crystal forum
i don't know shit about resin tbh
orchid lark
3D prints btw
crystal forum
but FW is overpriced as hell
and yesterday i was looking for an "about us" page on their site to understand wtf they are
for some reason they have a page about "policy on modern slavery"
orchid lark
no prison labour or offsite work
rose thorn
the forest
I thoguht y’all were talking about that fantasy faction
orchid lark
the Amazons?
crystal forum
rose thorn
the Amazons?
The Amazon girls with laser guns
orchid lark
yeah and thats a good thing
crystal forum
yeah i dont disagree
orchid lark
The Amazon girls with laser guns
in 40k, theyre called House Escher
crystal forum
it just took me a second when i saw that
rose thorn
Lmao shsuh
crystal forum
i doubt forge world's fair trade practises merit the massive overcharge
rose thorn
Oh yeah
rose thorn
What chapter should my ‘I had a vision, we gotta make sure it happens no matter what’ be a successor of
crystal forum
not even the guns
crystal forum
What chapter should my ‘I had a vision, we gotta make sure it happens no matter ...
you don't even need one
just keep it ambiguous
orchid lark
what do you want the chapter to be descended from
green loom
Vision from Avengers?
celest dome
What chapter should my ‘I had a vision, we gotta make sure it happens no matter ...
Haven't you already asked that question before ?
rose thorn
that's what they're there for
WERE, then it got scrapped because it was dumb
rose thorn
Haven't you already asked that question before ?
I don’t think I did
orchid lark
WERE, then it got scrapped because it was dumb
nah you still kinda can
crystal forum
the "visions must come true" thing honestly really sounds like soul drinkers and nobody even knows their origin
orchid lark
just not as cool anymore
celest dome
I don’t think I did
Anyway, either Blood Angel, Night Lord or Alpha
crystal forum
WERE, then it got scrapped because it was dumb
how was it scrapped
rose thorn
how was it scrapped
The two were expunged from history and existence
crystal forum
yeah but not their astartes
orchid lark
pray tell
how they managed to survive
sending their geneseed to terra
and not be detected?
Terra Mars, which one kept the geneseed banks?
crystal forum
i thought they were allowed to live
celest dome
yeah but not their astartes
Some theory say that they were put into the other legions, but it's not really something we are sure of
And with Primaris stuff their Geneseeds might still be available
green loom
They got eaten up roman style by the UM
crystal forum
They got eaten up roman style by the UM
we are legion
rose thorn
i thought they were allowed to live
BA were almsot purged from existence for being basically sewer rats in power armor
Then they found Sang
crystal forum
i figured out the ultramarines quirk
rose thorn
And dorn was like ‘fixem clown’
crystal forum
they're the zerg marines
orchid lark
cause theyre known to be bugs?
crystal forum
because they invade the store
green loom
I am the swarm
crystal forum
i bought a paint set on sale for 60$. pretty cheap for like 12 paint pots
main issue is that the paint set is for primaris ultramarines vs necrons
rose thorn
Oh yeah I have a few ideas (mainly thanks to @vale shuttle
crystal forum
so im thinking of how a blue leman russ would look
crystal forum
you know what's funny
rose thorn
My main ideas for my chapter’s name
Oracles blade
Farseers bane
The foreseers
The dreamers
crystal forum
because GW insists on copyrighting literally everything
the colour that's literally called ultramarine is called mccrage blue
however you spell that
rose thorn
the colour that's literally called ultramarine is called mccrage blue
Because it’s mccrage’s blue in lore lmao
orchid lark
My main ideas for my chapter’s name
Oracles blade
Farseers bane
The foreseers
...
dont gotta be about their abilities, again culture of their homeworld or old practices
rose thorn
dont gotta be about their abilities, again culture of their homeworld or old pra...
I was thinking about that, and having a culture built around considering pykers sacred, fortune telling, and all that shit to reinforce the idea that they need to ensure their visions happen is probably the best idea
arctic talon
Fun fact
McCragge blue is too bright to base coat for box art ultramarines armor
Iirc
You need to first base coat in kantor blue
vale shuttle
Oh yeah I have a few ideas (mainly thanks to <@190766928158130178>
i will help anyone with their custom factions because it's fun to make your dudes and ||i want friends 🥺||
arctic talon
rose thorn
Ah
crystal forum
My main ideas for my chapter’s name
Oracles blade
Farseers bane
The foreseers
...
fate sealers
prophets
timeseekers
knights of fate
that's all i have
vale shuttle
anyway not now because im going to sleep bye
vale shuttle
fate sealers
prophets
timeseekers
knights of fate
that's all i have
Fate Sealers is good
rose thorn
Yea
arctic talon
This looks fucking photoshopped lol
Fun fact it’s that color irl
rose thorn
Fun fact it’s that color irl
That’s such a weird blue
arctic talon
It’s more white
rose thorn
What would you use it for?
arctic talon
Then blue
rose thorn
And it’s a layer
crystal forum
is it cyan
arctic talon
Edge hi lighting cold white mostly
soft sable
very nice glow effect using paints
rose thorn
Why are death guard’s plasma guns so fucking weird
arctic talon
Old
crystal forum
that's a cool plasma glow reflection
arctic talon
- gross
rose thorn
crystal forum
personally i've always imagined plasma guns as green in the books before i saw them in models
(fallout ruined me)
rose thorn
that's a cool plasma glow reflection
Yea i wouldn’t expect a blue glow to look good on DG
arctic talon
personally i've always imagined plasma guns as green in the books before i saw t...
They can be green
crystal forum
will people hate me if i use necron green glow for plasma
arctic talon
rose thorn
I think green glow on green armor is a bit much
arctic talon
will people hate me if i use necron green glow for plasma
No
GW has painted green plasma before
rose thorn
I’d probably have done an orange plasma or a red plasma
crystal forum
eeeh red is reserved for lasguns imo
rose thorn
arctic talon
GW likes red for traitor plasma
crystal forum
but lasers can be any colour obviously so...
rose thorn
eeeh red is reserved for lasguns imo
That’s not even true
crystal forum
That’s not even true
that's more orange no?
rose thorn
soft sable
its heated up red, warmer red become orange, followed by yellow in intensity
arctic talon
soft sable
its standard heated metal colors
crystal forum
would be cool if lascannons were green or something to show that they're more powerful than lasguns
jovial glacier
Red has a hard time being bright and turns orange
shadow plover
I will argue for red volkites
shadow plover
''''plasma coils''''
crystal forum
always looked like they copied DOOM to me
shadow plover
so pretty much anything it requires it to be
arctic talon
always looked like they copied DOOM to me
That is pretty much confirmed with rogue trader plasma lol
They look like knock off doom plasma guns
crystal forum
would be cool if 40k shotguns looked like classic hunter guns
GW made them super bulky as if they're combat shotguns but they still look primitive
storm jungle
Gav Thorpe just tweeted this then deleted it
Well we are getting a votann novel finally i guess, heres hoping he doesnt fuck it up
green loom
Well we are getting a votann novel finally i guess, heres hoping he doesnt fuck ...
Oh boy they're giving them the Ynnari treatment, that's gonna go well
undone zodiac
Squad of votann going planetside: "damn, i forgot my lunchbox"
green loom
Duardin
storm jungle
NOOO
Also this is gav so expect lots of
good worldbuilding
book faction getting their ass kicked
which tbh dwarves, so no big loss
crystal forum
imagine writing a word different and then having that word go in the dictionary
storm jungle
imagine writing a word different and then having that word go in the dictionary
Dwarfs™️ is pretty much just so GW can copyright it iirc
like with Duardin
peak cringe
crystal forum
i seriously don't get why they fanatically copyright everything
green loom
So they have more grounds to kill infringing content
storm jungle
Its all about marketing yeah
undone zodiac
Considering they steal all the material for their work
arctic talon
Considering they steal all the material for their work
Inspiration isn’t stealing tbf
arctic talon
Or else it would be stealing all the way down
green loom
Mike Row Software
crystal forum
So they have more grounds to kill infringing content
they'd still have to go to court and prove it if the copier uses a different name
storm jungle
Mike Row Software
THIS
undone zodiac
It aint too far that often
storm jungle
also another thing
most court cases legit
dont wanna bother with this shit
its why GW doesnt go after 3rd companies
that copy their shit
arctic talon
Everyone stole from Dune
undone zodiac
Ane i meant more figuratively anyway
arctic talon
The one time they did was chapter house bcs of how public it was
undone zodiac
So please no pedantry
arctic talon
Too bad 🤓
storm jungle
Everyone stole from Dune
90% of the human population has no idea Lucas made the Force from the Voice in dune and he has admitted to basically stealing it, which is great
arctic talon
The voice is great
undone zodiac
green loom
90% of the population don't know star wars was supposed to be basically samurai sci fi
crystal forum
gotta love when companies take public domain IP's then change a few things and copyright it
green loom
Lightsaber enjoyers when you tell them they're just nerdier weeabols
arctic talon
gotta love when companies take public domain IP's then change a few things and c...
Tbf at least they aren’t trying to copyright public domain
Disney(💀)
crystal forum
the amount of people who are fans of stormtroopers even though they're the literal bad guys
undone zodiac
Stormtroopers got nice asthetics tho
green loom
Clone/stormtrooper and many 40k fans overlap
green loom
Lore is a lie, there is only fanon
uneven temple
crystal forum
star wars fanatics are arguably more irritating than 40k fans
green loom
I mean have you seen the irl Jedi temples
Unless Valrak already funded a cult I don't think there's a 40k equivalent
undone zodiac
star wars fanatics are arguably more irritating than 40k fans
40k fans who dont realise satire tho
crystal forum
i think it's because star wars is so black and white
still more nuance than harry potter
undone zodiac
I prefer more nuance but i still appriciate the clear black and white
Rather than "wouldnt it be great if everything was dark and grey and awful"
crystal forum
i feel like it just becomes stupid for star wars when the empire keeps returning. it's like the movie series is unconsciously saying that the rebels will never last
but that's more because disney refuses to make original content
undone zodiac
Couldnt create story of smaller scale
crystal forum
they did that with rogue one and surprisingly it's one of the most popular movies in the sequels
undone zodiac
Cant say as i havent seen that one
crystal forum
it's genuinely good
crystal forum
Ive only watched the first of the new ones
the blatant copy of empire strikes back?
or wait no the movie before that one
stormtrooper fans are funny to me because there's just 1 regiment they know
crystal forum
people love the old tv series with the clones but god damn the main character syndrome
i know it's made for kids but come on
all main characters running into incoming fire like it doesn't exist
star wars is notorious for bad aim on bad guys lol
crystal forum
https://youtu.be/KOGovv2mveQ
i dont remember that episode's clones but if they're unnamed then yeah obviously they'll die
i think it's pretty genius how they used clones as cannon fodder for gruesome deaths since there's no blood and gore
as a kid i found it fucked up how many get crushed, asphyxiated or eaten alive
but it was so damn cool
summer rover
i mean it isn't but they were the ones blunt enough you didn't need an english professor to explain it.
warhammer is the only one where they decide the represent hell with physical daemons trying to kick in the door, yeah. most of the time they were trying to be highbrow about it, but warhammer ain't highbrow.
coarse pumice
Well we are getting a votann novel finally i guess, heres hoping he doesnt fuck ...
Gav 'Dwarfs' Thorpe
crystal forum
40k didn't "invent" many things, even though 100% original work is next to impossible
but they definitely popularized stuff like space marines
they do blatantly steal stuff though
back in the day they threw shit at the wall and waited for something to stick
summer rover
early games workshop wrote most of 40k as a mockery of then-current sci-fi utopianism that frequently just straight glorified authoritarian governments.
crystal forum
i find it funny when futurists act like classic sci fi writers predicted anything when 95% of the stuff was ridiculous but 5% somewhat sounded like modern technology
oooh george orwell predicted skype oooo
summer rover
like you read older sci-fi and galactice governments have stupid control over things and are still portrayed and the ideal because the writers got lazy and wanted to make their point about the evils of....like, unregulated farming making their yard smell.
crystal forum
yeah some themes are really funny
and then they get super misconstrued by people
early stephen king books were wacky
very sci fi but in his own flavor
one of my favorites is the long walk.
a group of volunteers have to walk without breaks and if somebody slows down they get executed by soldiers. the final survivor gets to have anything they want from the government
i also read rage without knowing about its controversy
yup i killed chat with non 40k books
coarse pumice
A lot were based or owe something to the empire in foundation, but that was just the Roman Empire in space
crystal forum
A lot were based or owe something to the empire in foundation, but that was just...
you really can't blame one single book for stuff like this
it's a classic literature trope to have a falling empire
coarse pumice
It’s not to blame, just everyone copied it and a bunch of other concepts
crystal forum
what other concepts
coarse pumice
Hyperspace
The empire in it is also has some guys who are like admech
The tech men
The planet covered completely in city as well
Foundation is probably my favourite sci-fi book actually
crystal forum
ecumenopolies were definitely not invented by asimov
coarse pumice
What came before?
Also mutants and psychic powers were in it
Maybe not the first time but they were all together in one setting
crystal forum
for hyperspace well as far as i know eistein's theory of relativity was the starting point of sci fi authors to find a way around how fast you can go
coarse pumice
Yeah hyperspace was around elsewhere before
Robot but not from foundation , which has no robots until much later
crystal forum
didn't asimov make robot stories before foundation
that's like one of his main things
coarse pumice
Yeah, I mean robots don’t appear in foundation
Until the sequel series which were decades later
crisp heath
wasn't dune written partially in response to asimov robot stuff tho, wouldn't be surprising
desert dust
the amount of people who are fans of stormtroopers even though they're the liter...
Yeah but all settings will have great looking bad guys since you don't want the bad guys to look lame
crystal forum
Yeah but all settings will have great looking bad guys since you don't want the ...
ok that's cheating. that thing looks sweet
desert dust
Yeah but you could have these as bad guys instead
versed ledge
So are lasguns possible to make? At least possible for combat usage?
storm jungle
IRL?
versed ledge
Yup
I heard something about China making one a long while back, but it was too unstable.....
desert dust
So are lasguns possible to make? At least possible for combat usage?
Irl you could if you had a backpack with a nuclear reactor in it
versed ledge
Meaning it's still a ways off until we can get more portable batteries
desert dust
Lasers in real life are missile defence weapon's
green loom
The most lasers can do is pop missiles and make you sick
versed ledge
Currently, but no anti-personnel or armor capabilities because of the weight and logistics
desert dust
versed ledge
Now only we can put it on tanks
rose thorn
I can’t be the only one who thinks the HH tanks look like hot ass 😭
green loom
No everyone does
rose thorn
Oh thank goodness
green loom
And everyone's tired of marginally different tank variants
desert dust
This one looks pretty good
celest cedar
This one looks pretty good
Leman Russ?
desert dust
Idk was on good images when I looked up horus heresy tanks
green loom
That's a land raider variant I think
crystal forum
So are lasguns possible to make? At least possible for combat usage?
lasguns arent accurate depictions of laser physics so not really
and you'll never be able to hold a laser powerful enough to kill somebody with just your hands
celest cedar
How so
crystal forum
the main issue is power storage. current battery technology is nowhere near the level you'd need to power such a device
it's why sci fi railguns can't work either
celest cedar
The tech isnt there yet
crystal forum
it would be one hell of a day when battery tech gets improved
literally everything could benefit from it from flashlights to your smartphone
until then, laser weapons are exclusive to vehicles that can power them with engines
mostly boats
desert dust
Hence why you need a nuclear reactor in a backpack connect to your gun
crystal forum
i've worked with lasers powerful enough to burn your retinas just by looking at the light reflecting off a surface. they're not small and they require huge power boxes
40k explains this away with basically magic energy magazines
storm jungle
Yup
Yes but as with many sci-fi weapons its just a matter of "Why make this when we got much better shit now already."
Also sadly mostly IRL lasers are usually invisible 😔
crystal forum
wdym
crystal forum
Also sadly mostly IRL lasers are usually invisible 😔
what do you mean invisible
storm jungle
what do you mean invisible
So far, all high energy laser weapons have been infrared between 1.06 microns and 10.6 microns. They are invisible and silent except for a few lasers that were pulsed which made a noise at the target with flashes of light right at the target.
Generally, the shorter the wavelength, the better. However, a visible high energy laser has many problems in terms of eye hazards and announcing exactly where the beam is coming from to everyone.
But this is way too deep of a subject for just laserguns so
crystal forum
no keep going, this is one of the only things i'm educated enough on to have something worthwhile to say
crystal forum
as far as i know most military lasers are pulsed. i assume it's because of overheating issues but i'm not sure
storm jungle
Yeah like i said above its just prob never gonna see action until someone makes some big discovery to miniaturise it. Its usually the fate of most "future" weapons that try to replace current generation equipment
Aka theres always some nitpick issue that the big boys dont like so it always ends up being canned, lasers are a WHOLE can of worms though
crystal forum
the laser itself is already pretty small. like i said before it's the power source that's the issue
we've gone a long way from helium neon lasers
storm jungle
Yee prety much
celest cedar
why do they dont just glow red
crystal forum
Aka theres always some nitpick issue that the big boys dont like so it always en...
it's mostly the US navy having tons of money to waste
storm jungle
YEP
crystal forum
they got giant ship engines to power anything so they try everything
storm jungle
Yeah like half of the money the U.S makes goes to guns of any type lol
crystal forum
even that shitty railgun that didn't work
crystal forum
they went from fully electric powered to electric assisted chemical then said fuck it why are we even doing this
storm jungle
literally "future weapons" in a nutshell yeah
they will waste all these resources on it then drop it on a whim
crystal forum
im still surprised america adopted a new rifle that isn't made by colt
crystal forum
there were tons of programs to change the m4
all absolutely hilarious to read up on
storm jungle
I think the only one I really liked was the XM stuff
I BELIEVE these only got scrapped at the very last moment over something very stupid.
The system was unable to meet performance and weight requirements and was eventually canceled. In the aftermath, the two portions of the OICW were separated, resulting in the XM8 and XM25 projects.
storm jungle
crystal forum
did you see that
i swear i literally just copied a thing to my clipboard and i post that
what
crystal forum
this is what i wanted to post
crystal forum
no the bot didnt delete
storm jungle
Oh lmao
crystal forum
it just straight up posted porn
i think it's just on my end
well anyways that suit is a real thing
this is real
people were paid to work on this
storm jungle
Damn, I do hate it
crystal forum
and conspiracy theorists act like the government has any tech at all
crystal forum
"what aren't they showing us"
crystal forum
welcome to the ACR program
storm jungle
Okay ill say tho
from a "gamer" perspective
these guns are great
the 2nd one was in Black Ops too
they are wack af but still
crystal forum
but look at this
storm jungle
now THAT looks like a Gun™️
crystal forum
funny how the M16 was eventually replaced with the M4 without any trials
not shady at all
imagine if they went with this though
soldiers would be shooting flechettes at eachother
storm jungle
Actually yeah good point i never noticed that lol
crystal forum
Actually yeah good point i never noticed that lol
somebody pointed it out to me and i kept thinking about it ever since
colt has had many deep connections in the military
storm jungle
Yeah thats just how the industry goes unfortunately
crystal forum
one of my favorite prototypes though
crystal forum
XM106
storm jungle
OH CHRIST
crystal forum
this was in the same program that got the m249 adopted
this is literally what the ballistics research laboratory submitted
a motherfucking M16 with a taped mag and a bipod
you know what the best part is
YOU CAN TAKE OUT THE BARREL
storm jungle
this is some Azrael bolter tier eldritch horror
crystal forum
this thing is stupid on so many levels
as if you'd be firing enough rounds with this thing to require a barrel change
versed ledge
Also sadly mostly IRL lasers are usually invisible 😔
Isn't that even better? Sure it doesn't look cool, but traceless munitions
Imagine the mayhem as a sniper or tanker
crystal forum
i don't think the geneva convention has anything about snipers
as long as it's quick and painless
crystal forum
you do know that most ammunition doesn't have tracers right
celest cedar
during daytime right
crystal forum
tracers is just to help a gunner focus their aim
it's not that useful for riflemen
celest cedar
tracers is just to help a gunner focus their aim
I didnt know about that
summer rover
the high inquisitor. so yes.
uneven temple
organizationally, at least in the helican subsector, it goes acolytes -> inquisitors -> lord inquisitors
and i think there's some kind of inquisitorial conclave above the lord inquisitors, or something that can be called if needed, and probably other stuff between them and the actual Inquisitorial representative on the high lords
upbeat dagger
what might happen if an inquisitor failed at their task? like if they were tasked with watching/protecting a dangerous but valuable target and the target escaped
orchid lark
Depending on the severity
They’ll be judged by their peers
And they’ll make a decision there
arctic talon
^
upbeat dagger
im planning on running a dark heresy game and the main premise is that the acolytes are working for an inquisitor who's been tasked with watching a rogue trader- the rogue trader is an uber-powerful psyker who's too dangerous to be around any major anyone, but too valuable to just be executed. Therefore, he has a deal with the imperium where he's allowed to be a rogue trader so long as he has an inquisitor breathing down his neck at all times
orchid lark
oh yeah the romance story
upbeat dagger
yeah those two
i was wondering what might happen to the inquisitor if the psyker escapes- my intent was for him to slowly start going insane over the course of the game, culminating in him making a beeline for holy terra, believing himself powerful enough to "tear down the lighthouse and remake it with himself at the center" (as far as i'm aware if he even made it onto terra's surface the custodes would send him straight to god same day shipping but still)
orchid lark
if he even makes it past the first mandeville point on a segmentum solar planet
whens the game setting?
upbeat dagger
probably shortly after the fall of cadia, got a couple members of the ship's crew that are cadian vets so cant be more than 20-30 years after
orchid lark
because at present, theres like what 10 battlefleets in the good side of the great rift
sometime during after the long night
or during for some unlucky bastards
upbeat dagger
my intent is for gideon (psyker) to make a beeline straight to terra, luckily at this point his ship'd be falling apart and the party would have time to catch up while he commandeers a new ship. Would a "Gideon will not reach Sol. You are going to fix this." (or else implied) to the inquisitor from her superior seem fitting?
orchid lark
yeah
upbeat dagger
ok, i wanna remain semi lore accurate
also totally unrelated but i just had the glorious idea of an orc who found a damaged boltor and has convinced himself that the damaged magazine (its missing its bottom half) is a "bottomless mag"
crystal forum
what might happen if an inquisitor failed at their task? like if they were taske...
depends how high ranking the inquisitor is
inquisitors don't have a set command chain but there's definitely an element of how known you are
summer rover
man, anyone going to terra without express permission to do so is gonna get wiped before they make in-system. there's a whole fleet around the planet to stop random ships from swinging by.
crystal forum
honestly
i bet terra isn't that hard to get into
there must be so much traffic that it's not that hard to slip into another ship's profile undetected
summer rover
the whole thing with astropaths would screw that up.
orchid lark
there must be so much traffic that it's not that hard to slip into another ship'...
tell that to the custodes agents
summer rover
oh right, and then there's those guys.
crystal forum
my point is that the terran security is more on planetside. like what are you going to do on TERRA once you get there
orchid lark
planetside?
summer rover
get nuked, mostly
crystal forum
every citizen is probably monitored 24/7
crystal forum
you can slip into a cargo ship then
summer rover
it's not even probably, it's explictly the case. you on terra, you're being watched by the miulitary and the inquisition.
orchid lark
Custodes Sagittar on Terra can remember faces for decades
crystal forum
like i don't think a genestealer will have that many problems finding a way on terra
but the moment they try making a cult they instantly get rooted out
orchid lark
segmentum solar is tough nut to crack as well
getting into it
segmentum solar fleet is the best equipped (as they say)
summer rover
i mean they get caught before they even land, they inspect any visitors stupdily throughly in case of chaos shapeshifters.
crystal forum
see that's the part i don't think makes sense
have you seen how large 40k ships are
crystal forum
terra must take hundreds of ships every week just to sustain itself
summer rover
yeah, but those ships don't land.
crystal forum
there's always flaws in any screening process, especially for high volume
summer rover
they'd devastate the planet just from gravity. you get a smaller craft that inspects all goods to be taken before loading them.
crystal forum
does terra have a space dock
orchid lark
probably
crystal forum
i thought they just had massive landing pads
crystal forum
idk other planets usually get stated if they have space docks or stations like mars
orchid lark
terra is an ecumenopolis
summer rover
they have a whole flotilla of those huge spacecraft, they probably have a network of space docks.
knowing how silly 40k is there's probably a space elevator that's been built up into a giant shrine.
crystal forum
ok ok actually tangent time: how hard would it be to slip into mars
orchid lark
Mars is the headquarters of the Segmetum Solar Fleet
crystal forum
even the mechanicus doesn't know wtf is in the mars vaults
orchid lark
and is home to the most important Forgeworld
summer rover
depneds, how cool are you with radiation, and how much are the admech willing to break the rules to get what you're offering?
crystal forum
see, i agree with this
mechanicus are the merchant faction
they always have a price
summer rover
more like the nerd collector faction.
crystal forum
come on they're always after more valuables for clout
orchid lark
the Smithsonian, the best Merchant Faction in america
summer rover
"i have the original laserdiscs of the 6 million dollar man"
"The sacred texxxtttssss!!!"
crystal forum
the Smithsonian, the best Merchant Faction in america
but mechanicus don't put shit on display, they just horde it
it's all about clout
orchid lark
(star forts exists, so thats a thing floating in Terra probably)
crystal forum
wouldn't it be stated if it was?
we know for a fact that mars has a ton of orbital stuff
summer rover
they don't put shit on PUBLIC display.
there's probably hangers with whole titans kept just so they can go down and stare at it.
crystal forum
is that what they do with tech
they just stare at it
mmmh that's some good tech right there
orchid lark
like the Smithsonian, the faction of merchants
summer rover
or play with it. might be some arguments about that. "the plasma gun has to be mint-in-box! get your oily hands away from it!"
orchid lark
Mars is the planet of base reference, Techmarines gotta learn somehow
since most gets shipped to mars to earn their right in the priesthood
crystal forum
like the Smithsonian, the faction of merchants
more like the museum of london because they steal everything that looks cool
summer rover
and then misunderstand it
orchid lark
they do it for clout and are merchants, you right
crystal forum
im glad we agree
orchid lark
someone has to agree with you
crystal forum
yeah because i'm usually right 😎
orchid lark
my favourite merchant faction is Dark Angels and how they keep things in the Rock for clout
my other favourite merchant faction is Trazyn
crystal forum
don't forget the blood ravens
crystal forum
is dune that tv show that came out a few years ago
arctic talon
they stole from 40k
I am going to throw you into a sand worm
crystal forum
I am going to throw you into a sand worm
my favorite adaptation is the movie
arctic talon
Which one lol
crystal forum
because sting is in it for like 5 seconds and dies immediately
crystal forum
Which one lol
1984 one
it's an extremely trashy movie
but very fun
literally sting's entire appearance
also apparently patrick stewart is there
arctic talon
Lol
crystal forum
astral whale
also apparently patrick stewart is there
Picard is breaking the first directive again.
crystal forum
Picard is breaking the first directive again.
that old fuck is gonna have to learn some day
coarse pumice
green loom
also apparently patrick stewart is there
He's Gurney if I recall
green loom
celest dome
Cringe
upbeat dagger
are there any powersuits that semi-regular humans could wear?
like something an inquisitor would put on if shit hits the fan
upbeat dagger
oh interesting
crystal forum
are there any powersuits that semi-regular humans could wear?
a lot of of it, archeotech especially
upbeat dagger
i'm wondering what's most likely something an ordo malleus inquisitor would throw on if shit gets wild
crystal forum
depends on what he could buy, steal or trade
a high standing inquisitor definitely has access to his own power armour and maybe even a personal force field
celest dome
But Admech Tech Priest have Power Armour, some rivalling Space Marine or better
Necromunda Spirers/Spyrers have Power Amour, as do some of the Van Saar
Solar Auxillia had access to plenty of Power Armour too
But it's not really something we reject will get
crystal forum
inquisitors right out of training probably barely even have clothes
upbeat dagger
i've explained it a few times in this chat so you might've seen it before but basically i'm gonna be running a dark heresy game and the party's this is assigned to watch over a specific rogue trader.
Said rogue trader is a very powerful psyker, who was essentially given the rogue trader role to keep him away from the rest of the iom without actually getting rid of him. The main condition was that he has to have an inquisitor breathing down his neck at all times, enter Inquisitor Gloria
green loom
i'm wondering what's most likely something an ordo malleus inquisitor would thro...
Terminator armor
crystal forum
how new is the inquisitor
upbeat dagger
Gloria's not a new inquisitor but she's not exactly a vet. She however WOULD have access to a lot of shit cuz she's constantly traveling
celest dome
inquisitors right out of training probably barely even have clothes
Inquisitor are trained by other Inquisitor, so I think it will really depend on who was your teacher
upbeat dagger
and she keeps failsafes on hand incase the psyker loses it
crystal forum
is she a fanatic loyalist or a bit lenient
upbeat dagger
Gloria's not a new inquisitor but she's not exactly a vet. She however WOULD hav...
whats warhammer lifespan
green loom
For inquisitors? Up to a few hundred years
upbeat dagger
is she a fanatic loyalist or a bit lenient
lenient. she's the type to sit down and have coffee with her acolytes
green loom
Provided they don't get killed
celest dome
Gloria's not a new inquisitor but she's not exactly a vet. She however WOULD hav...
Give her a Stake Crossbow and warded Power Armour or if you want to be cheap warded Plate armour
green loom
lenient. she's the type to sit down and have coffee with her acolytes
They mean is she a Radical or Puritan
crystal forum
lenient. she's the type to sit down and have coffee with her acolytes
she'd have access to some exotic shit then like digital weapons
upbeat dagger
what's the difference
green loom
Radical meaning they'll use practically anything to protect the imperium
Puritan being strictly imperial stuff, minimal warpstuff, very traditional
upbeat dagger
she's def radical
green loom
Fuck sake my Hungarian autocorrect decided to turn on for some reason
crystal forum
she's def radical
yup so she might even have xeno tech
celest dome
Digital weapon aren't always xeno tech
crystal forum
they're exotic is my point
green loom
They're used by Chadmech
celest dome
they're exotic is my point
But still a Puritan could also see the use and have some
upbeat dagger
i had a couple xeno mercenaries in mind that i actually was thinking mightve been hired by gideon (psyker) or gloria. main one was an orc freebooter who was gifted a broken heavy boltor by the ship's tech priest.
The orc has been convinced that the magazine is "bottomless" cuz it is in fact without a bottom
green loom
That must be one nutty tech priest
upbeat dagger
she thought it'd be funny to see if it worked
green loom
Just hope she hides when meeting other admech
upbeat dagger
yeah i imagine giving an orc imperium tech is probably pretty taboo
crystal forum
hanging around an ork is heretical to begin with
upbeat dagger
don't rogue traders kinda get special privilege
crystal forum
tell that to a guardsman
upbeat dagger
ik the actual rogue trader rules let u play a few xeno races
green loom
Depends who they meet
Most of the time they tell whoever's asking to go fuck themselves
crystal forum
most people who've ever fought orks would shoot him on sight
upbeat dagger
fair
celest dome
Both Inquisitor and RT have a great value of indepenance and authority where they could try to keep xenos as acolyte, but still would be not trusted
green loom
Imagine trusting an Eldar
crystal forum
Imagine trusting an Eldar
at least the ork is honest
green loom
May as well stab yourself at that point
celest dome
I'd trust an Ork before I trust an Eldar
Same thing for Orc and Elf
upbeat dagger
funny idea: they keep trying to send the ork on obvious suicide missions hoping he'll figure it out and he just keeps coming back unscathed
crystal forum
you know, orks get bigger the more they win battles
upbeat dagger
i did not
terse flume
funny idea: they keep trying to send the ork on obvious suicide missions hoping ...
i had this idea about a military force once
celest dome
you know, orks get bigger the more they win battles
Somewhat, still is very slow
Plus they have an upper limit
green loom
What are we, some kind of suicide squad?
crystal forum
What are we, some kind of suicide squad?
eyyy that's hot
terse flume
based on something that happened with the romans, where sometimes they'd get sent on expeditions that the senate didn't think had a good chance of sucess explicitly to get rid of some ambitious upstart
anyway, then the victorious force came home and the republic fell
green loom
Is that what Jules Cheeser did?
terse flume
it's a very simplified description of one of his earlier campaigns, yeah
upbeat dagger
also yeah i'd rather trust an ork over basically any other xeno race.
Same with khorne followers. A khorne follower's never gonna stab you in the back. They'll wait for you to turn around and then stab you in the face
green loom
No a Khorne follower WILL stab you in the back
terse flume
but it happened a lot, particularly when someone had a bee in their bonnet about something stupid and could rouse up a rabble
senate would go good luck
crystal forum
he won't stab you he'll grab you and tear you in half
upbeat dagger
No a Khorne follower WILL stab you in the back
but they didn't do it out of malice, it was just the closest available part of you
that's what i like, you can always trust a khorne follower to want your immediate and violent death
green loom
"they didn't do it out of Malice"
Yeah they're just screaming their lungs out in rage they can't help it lmao
celest dome
No a Khorne follower WILL stab you in the back
Or the front, but he will mock you for turning your back to him
crystal forum
pro tip: berserkers can't kill you if you throw away your weapon
(sponsored by khorne worshippers)
green loom
Or the front, but he will mock you for turning your back to him
Unless they're too busy foaming at the mouth looking for a baby to step on
coarse pumice
Where?
green loom
pro tip: berserkers can't kill you if you throw away your weapon
Now they'll rip you to pieces first, and then youll bleed out
celest dome
also what kinds of psykers are there?
Difficult to explain, but Psyker/Warp power aren't exclusive to one another like how it is in Fantasy
crystal forum
psyker is space magic in lore
green loom
P- P- P- Plot device!
upbeat dagger
so like one psyker might just have a set of skills they're attuned with, its not like they're a type of psyker?
celest dome
For the Rpg, there are 5 discipline + 2
Telekinesis, Pyromancy, Biomancy, Divination, Telepathy
- an Emperor and Malleus ones
But then you have other things, like the Primaris types, which often take not of those powers
upbeat dagger
is there any form of psyker that focuses more on manipulation?
celest dome
But you also have special cases, like Astropaths, who have some telepathy and freeze power
green loom
Mfkers can barely manipulate themselves let alone others
celest dome
is there any form of psyker that focuses more on manipulation?
Telepathy discipline
And Will Unleashed for Primaris iirc
crystal forum
people underestimate how hard astropaths go
upbeat dagger
Gideon's a very disciplined psyker
he's still batshit insane but he's very disciplined
crystal forum
make sure the person who plays them is good at acting insane
crystal forum
oooh
upbeat dagger
unless the party for some fucking reason sides with him
green loom
NPC
Represented by Psyker Soyjack
green loom
unless the party for some fucking reason sides with him
You're asking the party in a tabletop game not to side with the guy that'd sponsor murder hobos
arctic talon
Navigators aren’t really traditonal psykers
As well
They sort of fall into their own caragory
With their own unique powers
green loom
Caragor riders
upbeat dagger
also for context on how insane, mf thinks he can
A: enter sol
B: get to terra
C: enter the palace
D: somehow enter big e's throne room without getting instantly crushed by the psychic presence
E: kill big e without instantly dying to the psychic scream
F: take the golden throne
G: project the astronomicon himself
when in reality he'd get sent straight to god the second somebody realizes he's there
crystal forum
this man thinks he's the reincarnation of malcador
upbeat dagger
literally the second he enters sol his ship'd get shot down
celest dome
Navigators
Navi aren't Psyker afaik
green loom
Because apparently it's unbelievably painful for them to be near him
upbeat dagger
but my plan is to essentially have gloria and gideon be the main two quests-givers, and have them slowly rift apart and force the party to pick a side
crystal forum
i can see him getting on the planet somehow but the moment he gets within view distance of the golden area he's vaporized
green loom
Why wouldn't he be able to get to the planet, he's still a Rogue Trader
arctic talon
Getting on terra is the easy part
crystal forum
but my plan is to essentially have gloria and gideon be the main two quests-give...
do you have an ocean's 11 style heist if they pick gideon
upbeat dagger
like the intent is for the two to start kinda pitting the party against the other, little shit at first.
Report on this. Spy on that.
Eventually it becomes stuff that the party essentially has to pick a side cuz they can't keep both sides happy
if they decide to help gloria it'd culminate in gideon fucking losing it and trying to make an unprotected warp jump straight to terra
(he's not supposed to be his own navigator also)
crystal forum
so he wants to die
upbeat dagger
he's convinced himself that he can "tear down the lighthouse and rebuild it with him at its center"
what do you think
also gideon likely gets away but his ship gets damaged and it'd turn into the party having to hunt him down because he is technically gloria's problem and gloria is fucked if he actually becomes a problem
crystal forum
actually his ship could merge with a space hulk infested with demons and end up in the solar system. that would cause quite a final battle scene where your characters have to fight him while the solar fleet is shooting shit in the background @upbeat dagger
green loom
I think this is making me want to play Pathfinder, which I can't do 
upbeat dagger
actually his ship could merge with a space hulk infested with demons and end up ...
that's actually dope
whats a space hulk
crystal forum
giant heaps of melted ships that are tumbling in the warp
green loom
It's a big mass of ships lost in the warp that have fused together and emerged in real space
crystal forum
absolutely infested with xenos or demons
green loom
They tend to pop in and out of reality at random
crystal forum
(and full of valuable technology)
celest dome
Space Hulk are gigantic (even compared to Space Ship) things that float in the Warp and real space, often almagation of different ships, astroid, and even often infested by Warp denizen and Genestealers
upbeat dagger
what are genestealers?
green loom
upbeat dagger
aren't they a form of nids or smthn
green loom
Ye
upbeat dagger
ok
green loom
They're the ones that infect other species to make cults
upbeat dagger
i know what genestealers are
celest dome
aren't they a form of nids or smthn
Yes, the naked looking ones
upbeat dagger
i just didn't know which faction they came from
upbeat dagger
also isn't terminator armor actually technically reactor maintenance armor
crystal forum
terminator armour is heavy space marine armour
definitely not something humans can wear
upbeat dagger
wasn't it originally built for reactor maintenance or smthn and marines just modified it
green loom
definitely not something humans can wear
They can
And it was adapted for marine use iirc
Don't remember exactly what it was
crystal forum
yeah like 20k years ago
upbeat dagger
ik a lot of Imperium tech is just repurposed shit
crimson kayak
genestealers can cut through terminator armour like butter
I always find this funny when index astartes mentions that terminator armour can make you survive getting stomped by a titan
celest dome
also isn't terminator armor actually technically reactor maintenance armor
Mining iirc
crystal forum
if your guys find an intact piece of terminator armour made for normal humans then they've hit the motherload of archaeotech
green loom
Malleus inquisitors in particular tend to use termi armour
upbeat dagger
also cool setpiece idea for the first fight with gideon: the fight taking place in a ship frozen in the first instant of its destruction, held together by raw psychic power
green loom
At least the more influential ones
crimson kayak
Malleus inquisitors in particular tend to use termi armour
Human power armour=/termie armour
green loom
They all use power armour
crystal forum
yeah terminator armour is heavy even for space marines
green loom
But malleus specifically get terminator plate sometimes
crimson kayak
Malleus pattern is not a termie plate
But it's still bulky as fuck
Unlike the Ignatus
upbeat dagger
also cool setpiece idea for the first fight with gideon: the fight taking place ...
basically gloria ordered the bombardment of gideon's ship so that he didn't just instantly brain blast the party, cuz she knew he'd focus his power to hold the ship togrther
crystal forum
also cool setpiece idea for the first fight with gideon: the fight taking place ...
sounds cool but idk if a psyker can do that unless they're really powerful
upbeat dagger
i want to specify my intend with gideon is that he is a terrifyingly powerful psyker
like the iom made him a rogue trader to get rid of hum
upbeat dagger
dark heresy campaign character
crystal forum
alpha plus psykers can crush ships like tin cans
crimson kayak
Oh
upbeat dagger
he's an npc possibly villain
that i plan on running
he's INTENDED to be the villain but this is a ttrpg we're talking about
coarse pumice
squat exo armour
upbeat dagger
yeah not an actual character im just rambling about ideas for a dark heresy campaign i wanna run
crimson kayak
Then yeah you should consider that the setpiece also stops holding up once the source of psykic power is defeated
crystal forum
the moment he stops concentrating it goes kaboom
upbeat dagger
Then yeah you should consider that the setpiece also stops holding up once the s...
the first fight probably wouldn't he an attempt to kill gideon, it'd just be Objective: Survive
hold him off from trying to blast his now failing ship into the warp until gloria can get there and fight him head on
crystal forum
but like as a powerful psyker why doesn't he crush them like ants
upbeat dagger
that's why i had the idea of the ship getting hit with bombardments
he has to concentrate like 95% of his power on not instantly dying
crystal forum
interesting
crimson kayak
player manages to luck stun Gideon, subsequently making everything blow up as he's no longer focused
upbeat dagger
Having a single blank
funny you say that
crimson kayak
Having a single blank
Depends on the blank scale? Considering he's supposed to be a very powerful Psyker apparently
upbeat dagger
this is all very late campaign stuff im just throwing out ideas for fun
coarse pumice
crimson kayak
Ovus pattern power Armour!
upbeat dagger
another thing that i was considering was Gloria having a child, that she keeps on her ship at all times, who is in fact a blank
crystal forum
a psyker giving birth to a blank is extremely ironic
coarse pumice
I would avoid using blanks in a story
upbeat dagger
why's that?
upbeat dagger
a psyker giving birth to a blank is extremely ironic
gloria is the inquisitor
gideon's the psyker
crystal forum
gloria is the inquisitor
oh right
crimson kayak
crystal forum
i actually hate those old dreads. why is the head its own thing as if the entombed space marine still has to move it
green loom
Quite literally
For show
upbeat dagger
also curious why i shouldn't use blanks in a story
crimson kayak
i actually hate those old dreads. why is the head its own thing as if the entomb...
I mean, inside the porthole it's the same for a normal dread lore wise
crimson kayak
also curious why i shouldn't use blanks in a story
Difficulty of use and balance, especially if you villains are psykers
upbeat dagger
fair
crystal forum
I mean, inside the porthole it's the same for a normal dread lore wise
yeah but the porthole dreads are clearly fully entombed. the movable head ones are just weird
green loom
They aren't movable
crimson kayak
fair
Also may or may not make the party realize the power bomb he could be and we are getting a second King in Yellow in the making
green loom
Or if they are they're probably a camera
upbeat dagger
Also may or may not make the party realize the power bomb he could be and we are...
?
crimson kayak
?
Tl:Dr King in Yellow is a character that's making himself an army of blanks and space marines with angel wings
crimson kayak
Don't worry... it gets weirder
Like, "trying to find the Emperor's real name to gain power over him like a daemon" weird
green loom
His real name is Aladeen
shadow plover
i actually hate those old dreads. why is the head its own thing as if the entomb...
Not the actual head actually, just a bundle servos and cameras for the entombed marine to better get used to the surroundings from a point of view of a familiar setup
celest dome
His real name is Aladeen
Isn't his oldest name Neoth or something ?
green loom
Fuck if we know
celest dome
well oldest we know of
crimson kayak
Isn't his oldest name Neoth or something ?
i mean, his real name is quite obviously John Warhammer
with his traitor son Horus, the Warhammer 40k
upbeat dagger
with his traitor son Horus, the Warhammer 40k
i thought his son's name was Horus Heresy
crimson kayak
i thought his son's name was Horus Heresy
that's after he changes his Surname
upbeat dagger
ohhh ok
i was really confused as to why the emperor would name his son "horus heresy" thats just asking to get heresy'd
vale shuttle
the emperor's true name wouldn't be neoth, it'd be something stupidly long because a true name isn't just the first name you have it's a name that represents you, everything you are, everything you aspire to be, and everything you've done
upbeat dagger
also unrelated completely but the only thing holding me back from buying an army rn is all the ones i want havent been updated to 10e. But legit if they dropped Corvus Corax i would instantly buy a ravenguard army
crimson kayak
well oldest we know of
yep, seriously speaking Neoth is the first name we know used by the emperor... well, after all powerful human psyker souls got together to make him.
upbeat dagger
the emperor's true name wouldn't be neoth, it'd be something stupidly long becau...
and big e is 41K+yo
vale shuttle
goddamnit the filter killed my funny joke
soi the emperor's true name is probably "fascism" repeated 56 times
crimson kayak
lol
anyhow yeah, Big E true name also probably contains the name of every shaman that off'ed himself to be part of the "New Man"
vale shuttle
also unrelated completely but the only thing holding me back from buying an army...
im sorry to let you know that corvus isn't dropping anytime soon, and that there's gonna be no more major army updates for like a year i'd guess
tyranids got the edition refresh
upbeat dagger
so wtf is happening with 10e then
vale shuttle
uuuhhh
upbeat dagger
is 10th edition backwards compatible?