#40k-lore-chat
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There's the final duel on the vengeful spirit where we shall see who is truly the Warhammer 40k, then we get to what I'm most excited for, the scouring.
Aka traitors being absolutely massacred as they retreat to the Eye
And then Black Legion happening
Along with the codex implementation and the events of the iron cage where Perturabo made a massive sign that said "Warning: Trap. No one but Rogal Dorn enter."
Tbf anyone who wasn't dorn wouldn't have lasted half the time the fist did anyway
Are there any like normal worlds or is it all just hive worlds, Agri worlds, and forge worlds?
Industrial Worlds are a thing too
They make things
But not Hive World scale
Paradise Worlds are a neat thing too
Always liked the idea of an industrial world
Even in 40k you could for the most part have a shitty boring life
Not violent enough for a hive world not backwards enough for a feudal world, just boring enough for an industrial world
In a damocles crusade short story(i think or novel) a rogue trader mentions selling his Warrant of Trade and buying either an entire paradise world or a small hive spire on Terra
Afaik Feudal world are everything from literal cavemen to Renaissance
Feral Worlds are cavemens
Doesnt have to be cavemen could be a prison world where theres no chance of like
Escaping technologically
Like Rimworld
As a result they’re considered as Deathworlds as well
Feral worlds are good for recruiting imperial guard or astartes
Also free labour for resources like Zardoz or the Time Machine
i forgot to ask most important question
how do i search on lexicarnum
this site
Theres a search bar on the left of the screen
it's weird that humans tend to regress all the way back to primal, while orcs get like knights and swords and stuff
orkz
Orks have an instinctive ability to develop tech and evolve because they’re designed that way. They’re able to salvage random garbage and their meks just know how to smash it together to make things that somehow just work.
By “designed” I mean by the old ones.
Aka: if humans lose tech they have to redevelop it through the painful process of research. Orks just kinda get it
as i mentioned some feral worlds are just like normal, its just mad max level
but people are kinda just trapped there
Though Orks do need the bits to actually make the tech. I.e. if the Orks were somehow prevented from getting their hands on anything made of metal (extremely unlikely in most cases) they wouldn’t be able to progress past a certain point.
remember that weirdboyz are born with literally their abilities hard-wired in their brain
think of it like an insect colony with it's roles
It's not as if Savage Orks exist
also not all orks, especially feral ones will accept the tech
as seen with Boilerboyz beefing with Runt Herders
Snake Bite Klan.
oh also, gretchins are goblins right? they seem to be goblins in every applicable way except they're named after the nerdy girl in Recess
specifically they're like, wotc magic goblins it seems like
They're warhammer goblins
Warhammer goblins are a little more menacing but they're both just ork snacks
give us a Gretchin Revolutionary Committee army you COWARDS
Da red gobbo will ride again!
That happens in the new war boss novel.
i know it's a thing in the lore but we don't have the models damnit!!! james workshop needs to make Codex: Gretchin Revolutionaries or i'm gonna go to his house
probably gonna be on a killteam if it happens
Gretchins are goblins and ogryns are ogres. Supposedly the Imperium used to have trolls too.
imagining space marine message board fights now
BROTHER. THE PLAYSTAION THREE SIMPLY LACKS GAMES. IT IS HERESY TO CLAIM COUNTER.
the Warlords in my current crusade campaign had a moment where they were all arguing on a wideband radio network
because they were in space the delay was ten seconds long so you had a sister of battle, world eater, and thousand son throwing insults at each other through a ten second delay
lol
Okay finials made an idea for my chapter I like
That I’ll extend on
They are obsessed with magical visions and will do everything in their power to make it happen.
Silver Skulls and their prognosticators
except the making it happen thing
Also there is a branch of radical inqusition that does visions things too
Occuluranism
Nice my chapter i unique
Similar but not the same
‘Boss we had a vision that a the imperium guard lose this battle!’
‘Okay then we better make sure it happens’
Also they are hella paranoid
They think if the vision doesn’t come true
Everything’s gonna go to hell
They used to exit even previously in some sorts
That's the half Eldar ?
yeah
i have a new quirk for my custom regiment. their home planet was bombarded with asteroids eons ago so they have an abnormally high amount of gold present. over the millions of years this gold has eroded into dust that formed giant deserts of literal gold powder. the irony is that the gold is worthless to them compared to the caches of weapons
Use the gold to blind the enemies of the imperium
i'm using this as an excuse to paint gold dust instead of dirt on their vehicles
because the paint kit i bought doesn't have dirt flavor
also their plasma weapons are green for the same reason
Ah
it's a necron vs ultramarines paint kit i got on sale
i'm going to stretch its uses
Imagine how hot the deserts of gold get lol
maybe less than sand because it'll reflect a lot of light and act like a giant heat sink
metal is good at conducting heat while sand is good at soaking it up
only for the fact that it doesn't oxidize. it's relatively worthless in huge quantities
and the concept of gold dust naturally forming is already unrealistic because of how malleable it is but idc it's cool looking
Prospecter Mechanicus out there with sifting pan
Doesn’t matter how unrealistic it is
It just needs to look cool
Lol
Or sound cool
Random question
Don't mind the fact it's a Roblox avatar, but think a Psyker can be like this?
Prolly lol
Psykers can dress however they‘re allowed to by their handler generally speaking
So we can basically have a Medieval Inquisitor-like Psyker.
Some of the biggest ones are. Even the only female ogryn I know of is one I think and an inquisitor at that
Remember this is a sci fi verse with its sci fi cultures and sci fi materials where the tech level is so uneven you could go from Neanderthal to standard 40k tech in a planet's distance.
So yeah, if you want to homebrew something it's most surely gonna be possible
Love my giant cemetery worlds
I said Inquisitor-like, as in they're not Inquisitors directly (capital I, not saying they can't be from a local inquisition, feudal or not)
Still works
She’s part of an inqusitors retinue iirc
the only thing that you would need to add to make that outfit work for a psyker is just adding a bunch of neural dampeners
like, these are all psykers, notice how except the tan/green dress guys (who are militarum uniforms) everyone simply dresses with what they/their master can afford, just like RL lol.
i mean, that's standard feudal planet or above attire
Cue the image of a Psyker in game being a Zealot.
Just- imagine if they can do that.
We might have a special Subclass of Psyker with this idea in mind.
She isnt an Inquisitor, she work for one
Would be cosmetics, not really a Class
yeah, think that unless you are under a specific group or similar where uniforms are needed you usually wear your "backstory clothes"
aka equipment from whenever you are from in universe
Hold on a minute.
melee psyker could be fun
I mean, I'm just gonna use Sienna Battle Wizard as an example
Along with Pyromancer
For ability, it'd be something like Sienna's Firewalk, while the Talents could be based on the Pyromancer's.
All of this is an excuse for me to get a true Melee Psyker style
i mean, a melee psyker class could work by stealing some of the inquisitor martyr catalogue
like Biomantic/Aether blades
tbf zealot could also steal things like arc blades and null-rods for a death cult class
or shields/melee combo's for a true crusader class and not that cosmetic that doesn't even have the helmet
Ye, hope the Biomancer end up being melee focused
btw i hate the fact that since martyr came out crusaders literally just became the stormtrooper version of the Frateris Militia basically.
you know, considering crusader houses are already lucky of even existing to begin with as there should not be armed men in the ecclesiarchy
The only outright teleport ability is Gate of Infinity or something
Should just become normal weapons like the Force Sword
yeah i don't mean to lock them obviously
Zealot could take from the Assassin and the Crusader
They always somewhat were, like bodyguard and stuff
yeah but the point of them was that they were like, exclusively melee and said "fuck you" to ranged combat
i mean... what house in lore does use ranged weapons?
We don't really know their name
because i see people bringing up this but i could never find a quote or something mentioning crusaders with ranged weapons except in martyr and darktide
I remember it being on the wiki but now it isn't, maybe it has been retconned
Okay, just maybe something not as direct as teleporting and more like, uh...
Like that High Templar in this Starcraft trailer
Aether blades in martyr gave you like a blink-like ability dishonored style
Firewalk is taken from a gate/teleport from the Bright Order (Never got named iirc, just appeared in one of the book)
dunno, probably, i just go off from the fact that their first appearance in Dark Heresy mentions directly that they don't use them as part of their whole dogma
Still in their older lore made them sound to be very independent and being represented by their House
yeah they are because of the Decree Passive
I mean as in the house decide what they allow and what they don't
Back
Anyway, it's like a sort of Warp phaseshift sort of movement, the ability I mean.
eh, could work if the part of their lore that states their lack of ranged weaponry and reverence to melee was from a specific house and not all crusaders
but yeah, i very much prefer still the full-melee crusaders instead of a modern Frateris Templar
What are we talking about again?
True, but depend on the game, like for Martyr or here, I'd say you need some ranged capacity, but for an Rpg (Owl Cat) i'd say melee only can work
Crusader and their allowance of ranged or not
In general
Ah
Martyr had it with ranged allowed
Well, from what I know, most of the Crusaders are mainly melee, right?
But most lore has it forbiden
Primarily with their swords and shields.
I honestly question why they aren't armed with Power Armour like the SoB if they're restricted to melee combat.
They have plate/carapace ?
Lack of funds
They do have Carapace Armour, yes, but it isn't that tough compared to SoB Power Armour.
Noble houses lacking funds?
Oh wait.
Let me guess - no "standard" Power Armour for humans that aren't SoB?
There's power armour, it's just expensive and not needed for chaff
I know
Even standard issue flak armor is considered luxury by many
I was referring to the fact that Crusaders can be considered elites by virtue of being from noble houses, if Crusader Houses are anything like that.
Because tabletop.
its not that deep, the authors just never gave them any
if you want to homebrew and give your crusader a p-armor go ahead tho
Okay, just want to check
Seeing as they're seemingly tied closely to the Inquisition, and are pretty good on the corruption side, they can probably get power armour if available
yeah also crusaders are like never fielded and are some of the least interesting units in the Sororitas codex
so they're not gonna get much lore
Yeah and because no one cares about normal humans crusaders when sisters, guard and Black Templars exist
Some are, but a lot are religious houses
Yeah Crusaders are basically
"We need a sword shield guy for our dark heresy campaign"
"Uh Im here"
"Okay sure you're in"
normal human crusaders are never going to be relevant because the Sororitas already fulfil the cleric / paladin role
Can see no references to this
so yeah basically as dilara says they exist entirely for the 40k ttrpgs
And Blackstone fortress 
Bodyguards
That's the least I know of their role, basically.
Their entire purpose is basically "we need a space knight"
Yeah but an inquisitor can also get guard vets, ogryn, Sororitas....
I'm gonna wait for a time to get a Zealot Crusader subclass
it's "we need a space knight that isn't a marine but also can be male"
Aren't they for Ecclesiarchy priests?
Imagine their entire gimmick will be blocking things with the shield, and becoming wholly useless
The Crusader, I mean
Normal crusaders yes
Crusader houses seem to be specifically an inquisition thing
Huh
Crusaders are connected more closely with the inquisition
used to be for priests
Normally
Waiting.
but
Also they like
We already have a crusader cosmetic
no man at arms
it sucks
And there's a bit of a difference between a madman plucked out and given a weapon and a madman plucked out, trained to death, and then given a weapon
after the whole goge vandire shtick
Okay, fuck Goge Vandire
Aren’t part of the ecclesiarchy
Ecclessiarchy are not really allowed to have their own "militarry"
...we do?
Men-at-arms, right?
Ye
They can just straight up say no
who
Where?
the ecclessiarchy?
No men at arms(sisters of battle aren’t men)
Is it the one with rags?
Crusaders
Can just say no
its very half-assed
Picture?
Does it even have the helmet
that was the loophole they found yes
Crusaders still exist, priests can have "Battle Conclaves" they just can't be too big else they're murdered
Ah.
No helmet
||daily reminder this implies the ecclesiarchy would have a male or all male force if they could||

the chest piece is bussin
.....
oh yeah it does suck!!
jkfkjdsf THESE REACTIONS
Mostly since they’re like
You know, I kinda want it just for the plate armour
Too bad I spent all my stuff on getting the game.
Also had a fun character in blackstone fortress
Little red riding hood with a side of plastic toys glued on
Lol
I would like to get the armour, but exclude the hood
you can buy thing seperately
Yes. It still does not help that I don't have money.
ive done all i can
Yep
maybe it'd look better if you put the recusants cage on instead of the hood
So unless Aquilas become free in the far future somehow, I'm staying poor.
the sissy cage
but im not wasting money to test that
I'm going to need to go murder my roommate for listening to Garfield on speaker now
as we get better with moulds, we might have to say to goodbye to chibi epic scale proportions
Their outfits are quite varied.
like most inquisitors
Can confirm lol
Generic Ordo Hereticus Inquisitors looked like Witch Hunters
Hereticus/Malleus lean alot into like IRL european witch hunter looks
Xenos is just whatever you feel like wearing
Generic Ordo Malleus often looked like Paladins or Knight Templars or so
Malleus also is like
we got whats his face in Space Marine
Armored up as hell normally
looks like Eisenhorn
Their asthetic is just armor on top of armor
Vail had power armour
She did
Thematically, we don't have a Generic Xenos attire
But xenos never got an overall asthetic on the tabletop
Is my point
Bcs they never got a codex
Yeah
haha owned
The named Inquisitors of that Ordo, they're mostly pretty much varied themselves.
Krazy Pants off looks like a priest
On a walking chair
Speaking of, heres my Ordo Xenos inquisitor
No he doesnt have a hexmark gun, what do you mean 
there you go
Neat
we have an official look at the generic outfit
I feel like I know this artist
mission accomplished lets go home boys
No we don’t die die die die
NOOOO-
also its true, I based his look on a very specific aesthetic
Mmmm Fanta
Oh, Fantastic.
Fantasquisitor
all their equipment is master crafted
master crafted carapace is nothing to scoff at
Yeah carrapace rocks
it's literally the best you can get ouside of power armour
Time for comparisons between it and SoB Power Armour.
something something something forgeworld contracts
Carapace armor is pretty good in universe
"Ok this nice Citroen is good but it can't compare with this high end Lamborghini"
We can attest that to the Crusher, at least.
Yeah I love needing menials to put on my armour and having to do 293938292 rituals daily so it doesn't malfunction and tear me in half
Ferrus Mannus vs the wyrm
power packs explode
since when
Explode no
Time for a few random things
Make you unable to fight yes
They can explode
They provide power
Good luck moving a massive slab of metal stuck to you
Like, Commissar Sabres.
In Darktide, are Commissar sabres the Heavy Swords or the Dueling Sabres?
Neither, or both and more
Doesn't matter, they can probably use both
(And honestly, they looked a little more like cutlasses)
There is no such thing as "standard"
It's still something to guess which ones might fit more in general.
the dueling sword were maccabian from when we still had item descriptions, the heavy swords are vostroyan
Still in the weapon name
The dueling swords, yeah. But not the Heavy ones.
Though it's not Vostroyan but from its moon
Now, something that bothers me so often.
Are the Zealot hammers Power Hammers or Thunder Hammers?
Design-wise, I mean.
SHUT.
They are named Thunderhammer
Are they about twice your size
Thunder hammer are Powerhammer
Yes, for Astartes
they function as thunderhammers, which releases the field on impact
but are not Thunder Hammers
Theyre Moebian made too! Crucis
In theory any SM weapon was adapted from normal weapon
not sure why but the "Mortis" Thunder Hammer skin looks like it was taken directly from the Deathwatch Space Marines, makes me think that some lucky Rogue Trader managed to get their charismatic paws on one which they later sold off to an Inquisitor for their private armies
we have bolters, but not Bolters
Wouldn't work, too big to use a real SM one
Deathwatch is Inquisition 
It's still annoying on how there are basically two weapons that are basically the same but different
Different being in relative sizes.
Technically no
It also technically can ignore inqusitors
Now for something that I'll say is pretty funky, for Psykers.
Imperial weapons use imagery like that a lot
Space Marine kits are almost only ever built and sold with the 1 handed hammers, while terminators and the old sternguard got access to the 2 handed variants
Marine bolters aren’t that different, but imagine the bolter we do have but your character can control the recoil a lot better and have a helmet display for aiming
Inquisitors can ignore inquisitors, they're still inquisition
Gabriel Angelos begs to differ
They explicitly aren’t inquisition snymore
what
Massive Silver I on shoulderpad
Nope, totally not inquisition
Can we get what are basically a pair of Warp caestus?
For Psykers?
Hammerhand exist, doesn't require cestus
I mean are sisters of battle part of the inquisiton?
As a weapon for our Psykers here.
Not like a Warp ability that would probably raise Peril just from using them.
rare exception, same thing with 40k space marine with Captain Titus, but overall GW only ever sold one handed thunder hammers for their kits and only the deathwatch or sternguard kits had access to a genuine 2 handed variant. Gabriel Angelos was a promotional piece for Dawn of war 3 which in of itself was a long forgotten mess, which is sadge because that model looks baller despite being stupid expensive Forge World mini...
Not as closely tied
are grey knights and Exorcists inquisition
Thunderhammer are 2h, Terminator can use them 1h, Deathwatch have access to Heavy Thunder Hammer
Oh yeah. Heavy Thunder Hammer. As if the default one isn't Heavy enough.
Considering how much GK work with inquisitors?
Tbh odds are you might break an arm using it
You know what? On April Fools Day, give us these hammers.
It sucks for marines using it already lore wise
TRUE!
For free.
GK weren't even made by the Inquisition and they still work alongside the Malleus a ton
are the rejects part of the holy inquisition
yES
Technically.
Yes
oh whoops caps
Yeah we're acolytes
By the end of the campaign 100%
Yeah, Level 30, we're Acolytes.
but by Level 30 you take the Hereticus Oath, the characters say as much.
At the start we’re conscripts
Dregs though we may be but members we also are!
suspicious
Idk where this bit about the deathwatch breaking off comes from considering they still work closely with the Ordo Xenos lol
They still have inquisition iconography, they still sponsor a massive Ordo Xenos fortress on Talasa Prime
💀
Only thing I'd maybe say is that inquisitors IG can't boss them around? But that claim would be inconsistent on a good day
terminator TH are technically two handed, they wield them one handed due to you know... terminator armour
Whose rank is higher, a Deathwatch Watch Master or an Inquisitor lord
Neither
The Emperor knows.
deathwatch meanwhile gets the huge fuck off heavy thunder hammer
ye, i know that, their Tactical Dreadnought Power armor allows them to wield heavier wargear with much more ease, even heavy ranged weapons like the plasma cannon and heavy bolter can be mounted up on one arm rather then requiring a second arm for support.
oh no i meant just regarding the "kits are sold with 1h thunder hammer", they are not, it's just that the termie models wield them one handed lol
Dat big boi makes me want Heavy Bolters for Ogryns
That's a below average build Catachan
Sergeant Harker is a very big boi, with a big gun
well, technically close to all models wield them one handed but you can't tell me those handles are one handed lol
thunder hammer wielders are just built different i suppose
gabe's is definetly a heavy thunder hammer
that thing is fucking massive
his armor was also substantially redesigned and rebranded then to just have him live inside a suit of Terminator armor like other Chapter Masters did (looks at Calgar)
strongest human to hold that hammer then
With a neck like that he's pretty marine adjacent
technically a Daemonhammer
its an ordo malleus weapon
hits just as hard regardless
a yes... the fancy thunder hammers
i consider them same as the GK nemesis weapons, literally just "look, my weapon does the same thing as your, but it's also anti-chaos!"
(btw God-Splitter is heretical tech technically as it contains part of an Avatar Of Khaine's weapon)
look the space marines must have the fanciest possible toys, and the GK must have the specialist fanciest possible toys that's why they can't have a force weapon and it has to be a
nemesis force weapon
Nemesis is just a way to say Artificer for me, like it's normal weapons but better quality and stuff
there's a clear hierarhcy for fancy toys it goes:
Emperor
Primarchs
Custodes
Grey Knights
Jimmy Space Marines
Inquisitors I guess
Sororitas
like, everyone else in the setting
Forgetting house Van Saar and their shit
Are Sororitas like genetically engineered like Space Marines? Or it's the armor they wear and skill?
skill
So they're pretty much normal humans in power armor then?
they definitely don't have a gene seed
So underneath their bodies are still "normal"? What augments that they receive?
depends
I think it's case by case
Think it's just the bits that let them use their power armour
most sororitas don't have them to begin with, it's just power armour+skill and equipment
when you equip your human force like space marines and have them incredibly zealous in what they do, you tend to get better results
And there's lots of them
oh wait, one augment they have, and it's the muscle plugs for the armour
Both
Hospitallers and battle sisters are technically separate right?
yep
they're a glorified ecclesiarchy paramilitary special forces unit
but they are armed sometimes because you know, battlefield medic
They also serves as traditional medicae
one of the only orgs that can use space marine vehicles
Well technically it's their own stuff
Like Organ artillery, unique predator/rhino tank
wish the militarum could use rhinos
i always wanted to make a 13/5 Regiment army just to get to use marine/heresy stuff as models
So's thats why I sometimes read that a Sororitas is around Inquisitors
They're the chamber militant of the Hereticus iirc
i mean, you could easily find battle sisters too with inquisitors
So they get grabbed a ton
Kinda like the Hospitaliers yeah
were
And still get grabbed a ton
but you can find the hospitaliers even with guard regiments or on "peaceful" planets with a shrine
Because like, not many would refuse to aid His Holiest of Servants
Unless they're like, a radical
But they probably love Puritans that agree with themv
use their blood as holy protection
also in the elucidian codex hospitallers are said to maintain codes of non-violence while everywhere else they are just as zealous and fighty as normal sisters.
If you mean being racist genocidal psychopaths that invade places and kill lots of people then yeah thats basically them.
The sisters of battle are the official chamber militant of the ordo hereticus.
Something something calls space marines Aberrants
based?
I didnt know that.
But then where's Grendyl's Sister company then?
Why would he need one
Probably no nearby orders
You make do with what you get or want
Inquisitors also get to decide who accompanies them.
And it seems Grendyll is more down with having his own personal warband cult
Like a good inquisitor
they already have a shit ton of cannon fodder prisoners
I AM A WARRIOR xd
Sisters of battle gets added
Sisters of battle are expensive. Prisoners are expendable.
sororitas are like:
real crusaders (as dilara says racist religious shitheads)
fantasy paladins / clerics (holy definitely-not-magic, armoured warriors and hymns and such)
female space marines (because james workshop can't make real female space marines or the fanbase will firebomb his house)
Bye bye psykers
Basically
its because the plot didnt want them
it has nothing to do with resources
Same as how people say Darktide's scenario is beneath marines when Astartes literally do this rebellion quelling on a daily basis on planets
Inb4 people ask wheres sisters of battle rejects
Reminder of how the community reacts to minor stuff
I mean
come to think about it, wtf is up with that servitor in the "I am a warrior" scene and why does its face change
Most heretical uprisings are handled by the AM.
did you know my essay on why the imperium is fascist got one thousand comments on reddit?
We already have female Zealots in the team
Grendyl can be anyone
They are handled by whoever the book wants at the time
there isnt a reason for it
I did not
He is among us
well, it did. it got one thousand comments and a lot of them were hot garbage
Or on the planet doing stuff
SoB rejects are either repentias, penitent engines, arch flagellants
Or dead
Basically not even joking and gonna be blunt.
Thats Grendyl remaining anonymous appearance wise and making what is basically a Zoom/Skycall on a possibly pre-recorded message to hype the penal prisoners up to fight for him.
Yes we know
Grendyl reveal teaser
NOOO
they should just give zealots a repentia costume
Its actually a really good setpiece XD
The real twist is Grendyll doesn't exist and Rannick is the actual inquisitor and it's an elaborate scheme to deflect assassination attempts
zealots are pretty much already repentia, just give us the repentia costume
I AM A WARRIOR
make it female locked if you have to, idc, just let me have it
so who's that noble looking lady in the game's intro cutscene
Sure
It’s not surprising. I’ve seen essays arguing why it isn’t that gets backlash as well. XD
Rogue trader
It's her ship
What is this bot doing
The point is, people will argue over anything.
I AM A WARRIOR
oh shit i thought she was the inquisitor
I thought she was ship mistress
I hecking love being Grendyl's Warrior
people who argue it isn't fascist are highly suspect tbh
I thought she was the inquisitor.
Year of our lord 2023 and i saw hecking being used
not very well communicated huh
Brahms, a rogue trader, is shipmistress of her own ship
Its the SFW version
i actually see hecking being used a lot but it's mostly people being like "ha ha i hate redditors they say 'hecking doggerino'"
Shipmistress Brahms
Brahms need some rejuv treatment
is this stated anywhere in the game or did you have to ask a dev

Imbd and credits lmao
Not funny either.
From what I gather from banter: Brahms owes Grendyl a favor. So thats why Grendyl's using her ship to host Grendyl's own warband
she'd subtitled as "Shipmistress Brahm" i think
The fucking subtitles of the trailer
Her face reminding i need to get new tires
Grendyll has some leverage over her and uses her ship as his personal club house
They mention her by name like 3 times in game
Also this @crystal forum
Smh you people don't play
i play the game
Imagine how Brahms react to the I AM A WARRIOR scene
They aren’t allowed to be in
He’s an inquisitor so he doesn’t even need to do that. An inquisitor can flash his rosette and commandeer the vessel.
i just haven't been playing it much because it's got no new content in 6 months
seasonal content coming soon, eh fatshark?
If the crew don’t kill him first
Why would they
Rogue Traders have their own clout
Commandeering a ship usually requires a level of consent
Because why would they trust some random ass inqusitor who showed up
Demanding to be given command
They may have struck a bargain.
Think it's more the extent to which he uses the ship
Grendyl's also grooming Rannick to be an Inquistor. Possibly succeeding Grendyl. Should they perish.
That is most likely the case
don't need consent when you have a bolter
Sees an inquisitor rosette
Since it's 99% inquisition personnel now and is basically a mobile Inquisition command centre
Everyone on the command deck has a gun + guards
And a company of Sisters
sussy baka
Point being an inqusitor usually can’t just waltz in and say I’m in charge now
For a ship
what almost certainly happened with brahm / grendyl is this:
Grendyl: I'm commandeering your ship.
Brahm: "Oh." (not excited).
Grendyl: "You'll get a massive amount of respect, connections in the Inquisition, a large stipend, protection, and access to a massive amount of authority and resources."
Brahm: "Oh!" (excited).
god damn you eisenhorn
Basically to contrary to what people believe, you can't just wave your Inquisitorial badge aroudn and be expected to have everything fall on your lap.
If you don't have any influence or presence you'll probably just get shot lol
^
In a short story Im reading, an inquisitor makes a deal with a planetary beat cop. When the soldier carried out his end of the bargain, the inquisitor woke up the commander in the middle of the night and made him sign the cop’s promotion papers to lieutenant.
basically its like a DEA officer walking to the middle of a cartel kingping's house
and going
"You are all under arrest"
lmao
So it is possible the inquisitor struck a deal with the ship lady.
An inqusitors authority only goes as far as their reputation
This.
RIP Inquisitor Hank Schrader
except the cartel has a contract with the US that says they can do whatever they want 
Brahms owes Grendyl a favor. I think just hitting up Brahms and goes "yo I need your ship brah" and Brahms just accept it.
Inqusitor bumfuck trying to commandeer a ship is gona get filled with holes by a flechette gun if he tries to shoot the captain
Or if he’s pointing a bolt pistol at your head.
just like a rogue trader
the lore deeepns
that's what i meant
I mean that applies to anything
unless you're a primarch
remember kids, primarch skulls are better than helmets
Idk Guilliman gets a lot of pushback
Depends on the story and the crew. The average ship crew is usually depicted as not brave or stupid enough to try and fight an inquisitor.
Mostly because they don’t know what kind of back up he has watching.
they dont get paid enough for this shit
Again an inqusitors authority only goes as far as his reputation
This is a core rule yeah
Even if you are a strong inquisitor you are risking your life constantly waving that badge around
its not a good idea
what if the Rogue Trader was our favourite fan hero Carlos McConnel
It’s always better to take a diplomatic approach
Not necessarily. If an inquisitor flashes his badge, the average person isn’t going to fight back.
Like even if you are an very well known inquisitor
The crew maybe not, but the loyal voidsmen who've been living on the ship since before the inquisitor was ever born might
imagine walking into like
the HQ of a GSC cult
and saying they will surrender and submit to you
yeah you are getting chopped up
Ship command staff aren’t the average person

A smart inquisitor wouldn’t do that. They’d bring in a purgation unit.
Bad example.
what if the rogue trader is pedro pascal
Not really
most inquisitors are power hungry
and dumb
who
why do you think we see them in lore so much
how dare you

Eh not really. Not in recent books anyway.
Bruh Grendyl should just bring HIS WARRIORS to that 2nd hive city
before Morrow told us the classic
Which warpjack are you
Its pretty much been a setting stable, so yeah really
like the infamous uh
"Never you mind
EMIL DARKHAMMER
Vale. Crowl. Eisenhorn.
The one in the book I’m reading now whose true name we don’t know yet.
Aren't Eisenhorn and Vail from older books
Vail is pretty well respected
Amberley Vail is the best written inquisitor in 40k.
and turns heretic
Same with Eisenhorn before his decent into becoming a radical
Hey remember that Eisenhorn mobile game?
Eisenhorn sane for being juiced up for blank puss
NOOO
Is it because she sleeps with Cain
radical inquisitor doing some sick flips 🛹
But most voidsmen and ship command staff are most loyal to the captain
Which is pretty odd
In 40k
But also meh
No. Because she uses a combination of wit, charm, smarts, and brute force to get her way. She doesn’t threaten exterminatus on everyone. She’s smart enough to vary her approach depending on what needs to be done. She’ll let her hair down but when shit gets serious she’s cold as ice.
Puritan Inquisitor be like: NOOO STOP YOU CANT KEEP SUMMONING DAEMONHOSTS
Radical Inquisitor in question:
because 40k is british so it has a fetish for naval structure
Lmfao fair enough
Beyond just duty they're also the ones who get them paid so lol
Amberley is great.
True!
to a voidsmen the captain is the equivalent of a planetary governor
He's da Chief
i want my p0rno-slates and lho sticks
i get paid exclusively in dead rats
but what about in game tho
After living with my roommate I'm fairly sure I could stomach living on a nurglite vessel
Tbf they’re more loyal then a pdf or personal guard would be to a planetary governor
Which is a bit absurd
dead rats are free. you can bring them home
Personal guards aren't always disloyal
So maybe it isn’t absurd
They aren’t
But they're also like
But they aren’t suicidally loyal like a lot of voidsmen
From a way bigger recruitment pool
And most voidsmen are from straight up families that have lived on the ship for generations iirc
don't voidsmen basically spend multiple generations in ships
so yeah might become tradition to serve
the f's a Voidsmen
Starship crew.
navy crew
oh
what we'd call a seaman
Imagine if the Navy had its own militant hall monitors
space warrior
thats a general term to encompass all the people in a navy ship?
No
seamen?
You mean guys who keep the rabble in line? They have them.
yeah
cannon fodder
Voidsmen specifically are basically marines
Not alwyas.
Voidborn
Voidsmen at arms is the specific name
unlucky
Usually gets shortened to voidsmen
we dont like voidborn folks
Several books show they’ll go on a planet and conscript randos from a planet for the honor of serving on a ship.
By force.
That one warhammer crime short story with a few hundred getting lynched by an angry mob
Then those become the next generation if they survive 

And if they don’t they can just stop on another planet and grab themselves some more.
because voidborn is no good
Tbf long shanks are more mutated then a voidborn
But yeah
imagine being called to change the reactor core
superstition is helluva thing
POV slave
more like soon to die slave
Hey sometimes the voidsmen have it pretty good. In the devastation of Baal book one gunner crew does so well, the space marine captain rewards them with extra rations and an additional 6 minutes of sleep.
Christmas has come early.
I’m just making a dumb joke tbh
i swear you've said this exact same thing before
Voidsmen are treated slightly less terribly then your average manufacotrum slave
It’s my favorite example.
And it’s hilarious.
do i want to step in bird shit or dog shit, its all the same in the end, we die
goddamnit ive been sitting on james workshop's website for five minutes waiting for the imperial guard showcase for 10th and i just realised THEY HAVE A HOLIDAY DUE TO THE FRIGGING KING
bri'ish "people" and their "MONARCHY"
thats good
ruining my daily dose of 10e
You mean that?
I got you.
never pressed F5
probs gonna have to clean out my browser cache lmao
no i kept pressing f5, what probably happened is my browser went "just gonna reload the page same as it ever was to save broadband and time" which caused the page to not update
couldve checked twitter
i only use twitter for furry art
based 😎
here's the first thing i got when i loaded it up
thats just a bird
half life 2 cosplay
id show mine but id get banned
same
im not gonna flood the discord chat with furry art, you get the picture
i get the art actually
ok im stopping now before i get carried away
tail cape
This is a lore channel, you shouldn’t be posting it here anyway.
sorry police officer
better @ our local moderator to ban me
Pathfinder has some neat lore
maybe when dilara comes back she'll do it
Nah it wouldn’t warrant a ban, just deleting the images and a verbal.
we got the verbal from you
At least that’s what I do on the servers I mod.
so one more to go eeh
it does merit a verb
...really?
maybe even a noun
better give yourself a verbal warning
An adjective perhaps
because this is a lore chat not a moderation chat
I won't do it this once but don't make it a regular occurrence
we try to be lax for the most part because if theres one thing i hate its asshole mods who constantly make people move chats 
so ill let it fly this once but yeah back to lore peeps
ive posted the same furry shitpost here three times and all dilara does is just type AAAAA
i mean i don't normally go off on furry art tangents so 🤷
conversations veering off into random places is just what happens when people talk
imagine studying
mods not looking quick post images of corn
oh god i need to study tomorrow
I’m currently reading the vorbis conspiracy which is a warhammer crime novel. It’s really good and interesting. Has that noire grit in the 40k setting.
I have an exam in
3 hours
I hate linguistics
no thanks, i tried software engineering and it wasn't for me
There’s also a short story called dredge runners that is hilarious.
hell yeah a degree in college debt
you have debt?
nope, i live in a sensible country
why would I have debt
university
i have debt except it can't be collected until i hit a certain income level so if i flunk out and become a gravedigger i'll never have to pay it off, thus banishing it to the taxpayer and causing the downfall of western civilization or something
the only debts i have is with the irish mob
I'm apparently indebted to my family so they reserve the right to take all my money at any point

i cant imagine that lmao
my family refuses to take my money no matter how much i insist
The refuse to let me spend a couple euros on a new hard drive to replace my 12 year old one
I hecking love the Imperium
bruh mine is 5 years old and im terrified of it shitting the bed and losing all my data
Oh you're our neighbor from the north xd
innovation is a psyops made by the foul chaos xenos to destroy the imperium and introduce heretical law

Mine is still running Darktide
better just sit in a circle and bang rocks together for the rest of all time
Thank God for the cloud
whatre you singaporean?
ew (jk)
racist
Blue Turkish
I HATE THE SWISS
mods report this person named Dilara
Dont worry

if you're friends with socrates then i don't want to talk to you
i'm knwon for my incredibly racist rants against switzerland and their lovely cheeses and chocolates and all that fuck them
Im an Ottoman boo anyway xd
I technically should despise the ottomans but I'm past the point of caring
i don't trust meat on stick
I trust meat stick
this is my catte
Playing a lot of BF1 got me at least know a few Turkish words
DUSMAN, TESEKULER
Careful inb4 Khailith says no pet pictures
This is a lore chat
lore cat
Does Hayde mean "let's go"?
because this is the second derailment today dilara will return to personally kill me
Im pretty sure I spell Tesekkurler wrong here xd
felinids
yes Source: me playing BF1
is james workshop wasn't a COWARD he'd make felinids furries to appeal to the suspiciously rich furry market
Oh cool so that's where we picked it up from
GW doesn't have the balls to make minis for the lore furries
"Ajde" here is used a ton for "come on" or "alright" or "let's go"
Okay when they say Felinids are hairy but can be mistaken for most humans
Lemme guess. Is that Albanian?
we all agree they look like felicity from darkstalkers right
No
Bosnian?
No
No
in his language
Yes
no is yes
ancient mesopotamian
So Serbian? nice
Not really since I'm not a real Serb 
hehe
dont ask Serbians what their parents did in 1994
MY DAD IS A WAR CRIMINAL is a banger
dont ask your chechen class mate where his uncle is
so much hatred in countries smaller than most US states
So he didn't do much
leave it there
New York alone alone is almost as big as this country
those countries have a history of being angry at each other longer than the US has been a thing
the state or the city
this is a discord channel, no reason you need to put your dads life here out of privacy
I think the city
the state is pretty massive
look at the state of it
+1 point
wait what? the mods requested a full historical record of my p arentage, including DNA samples
Shit we don't even have the tech for DNA
ill show you my dna samples if you dont knock it off
dilara is trying to clone you
No I think it was specifically the city

