#40k-lore-chat

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green loom
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But i figure they'll make scouring books next

signal bramble
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There's the final duel on the vengeful spirit where we shall see who is truly the Warhammer 40k, then we get to what I'm most excited for, the scouring.

green loom
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Aka traitors being absolutely massacred as they retreat to the Eye

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And then Black Legion happening

signal bramble
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Along with the codex implementation and the events of the iron cage where Perturabo made a massive sign that said "Warning: Trap. No one but Rogal Dorn enter."

crimson kayak
fervent rose
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Are there any like normal worlds or is it all just hive worlds, Agri worlds, and forge worlds?

orchid lark
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Industrial Worlds are a thing too

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They make things

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But not Hive World scale

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Paradise Worlds are a neat thing too

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Always liked the idea of an industrial world

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Even in 40k you could for the most part have a shitty boring life

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Not violent enough for a hive world not backwards enough for a feudal world, just boring enough for an industrial world

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In a damocles crusade short story(i think or novel) a rogue trader mentions selling his Warrant of Trade and buying either an entire paradise world or a small hive spire on Terra

celest dome
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Afaik Feudal world are everything from literal cavemen to Renaissance

orchid lark
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Feral Worlds are cavemens

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Doesnt have to be cavemen could be a prison world where theres no chance of like

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Escaping technologically

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Like Rimworld

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As a result they’re considered as Deathworlds as well

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Feral worlds are good for recruiting imperial guard or astartes

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Also free labour for resources like Zardoz or the Time Machine

lament prism
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i forgot to ask most important question

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how do i search on lexicarnum

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this site

orchid lark
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Theres a search bar on the left of the screen

lament prism
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im so fucking blind

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thank you

terse flume
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orkz

signal bramble
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By “designed” I mean by the old ones.

vale shuttle
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Aka: if humans lose tech they have to redevelop it through the painful process of research. Orks just kinda get it

orchid lark
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as i mentioned some feral worlds are just like normal, its just mad max level

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but people are kinda just trapped there

signal bramble
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Though Orks do need the bits to actually make the tech. I.e. if the Orks were somehow prevented from getting their hands on anything made of metal (extremely unlikely in most cases) they wouldn’t be able to progress past a certain point.

crimson kayak
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think of it like an insect colony with it's roles

celest dome
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It's not as if Savage Orks exist

crimson kayak
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as seen with Boilerboyz beefing with Runt Herders

signal bramble
terse flume
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oh also, gretchins are goblins right? they seem to be goblins in every applicable way except they're named after the nerdy girl in Recess

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specifically they're like, wotc magic goblins it seems like

crisp heath
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They're warhammer goblins

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Warhammer goblins are a little more menacing but they're both just ork snacks

vale shuttle
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give us a Gretchin Revolutionary Committee army you COWARDS

crisp heath
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Da red gobbo will ride again!

signal bramble
vale shuttle
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i know it's a thing in the lore but we don't have the models damnit!!! james workshop needs to make Codex: Gretchin Revolutionaries or i'm gonna go to his house

crimson kayak
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probably gonna be on a killteam if it happens

orchid thicket
terse flume
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imagining space marine message board fights now

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BROTHER. THE PLAYSTAION THREE SIMPLY LACKS GAMES. IT IS HERESY TO CLAIM COUNTER.

vale shuttle
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because they were in space the delay was ten seconds long so you had a sister of battle, world eater, and thousand son throwing insults at each other through a ten second delay

terse flume
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lol

rose thorn
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Okay finials made an idea for my chapter I like

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That I’ll extend on

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They are obsessed with magical visions and will do everything in their power to make it happen.

orchid lark
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Silver Skulls and their prognosticators

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except the making it happen thing

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Also there is a branch of radical inqusition that does visions things too

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Occuluranism

rose thorn
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Nice my chapter i uniquepogryn

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Similar but not the same

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‘Boss we had a vision that a the imperium guard lose this battle!’

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‘Okay then we better make sure it happens’

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Also they are hella paranoid

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They think if the vision doesn’t come true

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Everything’s gonna go to hell

orchid thicket
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Coolest Khornate character ever simply because of his dialogue and voice acting

orchid lark
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love my psyker khornate daemons

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dow2 just forgot about it

celest dome
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They used to exit even previously in some sorts

coarse pumice
celest dome
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That's the half Eldar ?

coarse pumice
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yeah

crystal forum
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i have a new quirk for my custom regiment. their home planet was bombarded with asteroids eons ago so they have an abnormally high amount of gold present. over the millions of years this gold has eroded into dust that formed giant deserts of literal gold powder. the irony is that the gold is worthless to them compared to the caches of weapons

arctic talon
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Use the gold to blind the enemies of the imperium

crystal forum
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i'm using this as an excuse to paint gold dust instead of dirt on their vehicles

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because the paint kit i bought doesn't have dirt flavor

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also their plasma weapons are green for the same reason

arctic talon
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Ah

crystal forum
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it's a necron vs ultramarines paint kit i got on sale

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i'm going to stretch its uses

arctic talon
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Imagine how hot the deserts of gold get lol

crystal forum
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metal is good at conducting heat while sand is good at soaking it up

orchid lark
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Gold is valuable for most electronics

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Also is very soft

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Thats gotta be annoying

crystal forum
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and the concept of gold dust naturally forming is already unrealistic because of how malleable it is but idc it's cool looking

orchid lark
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Prospecter Mechanicus out there with sifting pan

arctic talon
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Doesn’t matter how unrealistic it is

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It just needs to look cool

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Lol

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Or sound cool

crisp heath
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Random question

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Don't mind the fact it's a Roblox avatar, but think a Psyker can be like this?

arctic talon
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Psykers can dress however they‘re allowed to by their handler generally speaking

crisp heath
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So we can basically have a Medieval Inquisitor-like Psyker.

arctic talon
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Yeah

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Inqusitors can be psykers

hardy root
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Some of the biggest ones are. Even the only female ogryn I know of is one I think and an inquisitor at that

crimson kayak
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Remember this is a sci fi verse with its sci fi cultures and sci fi materials where the tech level is so uneven you could go from Neanderthal to standard 40k tech in a planet's distance.

So yeah, if you want to homebrew something it's most surely gonna be possible

orchid lark
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Love my giant cemetery worlds

crisp heath
arctic talon
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Still works

arctic talon
crimson kayak
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the only thing that you would need to add to make that outfit work for a psyker is just adding a bunch of neural dampeners

crimson kayak
crisp heath
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Full medieval plate armour and two-handed broadsword included?

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Okay.

crimson kayak
crisp heath
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Cue the image of a Psyker in game being a Zealot.

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Just- imagine if they can do that.

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We might have a special Subclass of Psyker with this idea in mind.

celest dome
celest dome
crimson kayak
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aka equipment from whenever you are from in universe

crisp heath
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Hold on a minute.

crimson kayak
crisp heath
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I mean, I'm just gonna use Sienna Battle Wizard as an example

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Along with Pyromancer

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For ability, it'd be something like Sienna's Firewalk, while the Talents could be based on the Pyromancer's.

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All of this is an excuse for me to get a true Melee Psyker style

crimson kayak
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i mean, a melee psyker class could work by stealing some of the inquisitor martyr catalogue

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like Biomantic/Aether blades

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tbf zealot could also steal things like arc blades and null-rods for a death cult class

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or shields/melee combo's for a true crusader class and not that cosmetic that doesn't even have the helmet

celest dome
crimson kayak
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btw i hate the fact that since martyr came out crusaders literally just became the stormtrooper version of the Frateris Militia basically.

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you know, considering crusader houses are already lucky of even existing to begin with as there should not be armed men in the ecclesiarchy

celest dome
celest dome
crimson kayak
celest dome
celest dome
crimson kayak
celest dome
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Weren't all

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Depend on the House

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Same thing for DCAssassin

crimson kayak
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i mean... what house in lore does use ranged weapons?

celest dome
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We don't really know their name

crimson kayak
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because i see people bringing up this but i could never find a quote or something mentioning crusaders with ranged weapons except in martyr and darktide

celest dome
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I remember it being on the wiki but now it isn't, maybe it has been retconned

crisp heath
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Like that High Templar in this Starcraft trailer

crimson kayak
celest dome
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Firewalk is taken from a gate/teleport from the Bright Order (Never got named iirc, just appeared in one of the book)

crimson kayak
celest dome
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Still in their older lore made them sound to be very independent and being represented by their House

crimson kayak
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yeah they are because of the Decree Passive

celest dome
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I mean as in the house decide what they allow and what they don't

crisp heath
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Back

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Anyway, it's like a sort of Warp phaseshift sort of movement, the ability I mean.

crimson kayak
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eh, could work if the part of their lore that states their lack of ranged weaponry and reverence to melee was from a specific house and not all crusaders

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but yeah, i very much prefer still the full-melee crusaders instead of a modern Frateris Templar

crisp heath
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What are we talking about again?

celest dome
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True, but depend on the game, like for Martyr or here, I'd say you need some ranged capacity, but for an Rpg (Owl Cat) i'd say melee only can work

celest dome
crisp heath
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From the Inquisitor Martyr game?

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Or the Crusaders in general?

celest dome
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In general

crisp heath
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Ah

celest dome
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Martyr had it with ranged allowed

crisp heath
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Well, from what I know, most of the Crusaders are mainly melee, right?

celest dome
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But most lore has it forbiden

crisp heath
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Primarily with their swords and shields.

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I honestly question why they aren't armed with Power Armour like the SoB if they're restricted to melee combat.

celest dome
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They have plate/carapace ?

green loom
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Lack of funds

crisp heath
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They do have Carapace Armour, yes, but it isn't that tough compared to SoB Power Armour.

crisp heath
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Oh wait.

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Let me guess - no "standard" Power Armour for humans that aren't SoB?

green loom
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There's power armour, it's just expensive and not needed for chaff

crisp heath
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I know

soft sable
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Even standard issue flak armor is considered luxury by many

crisp heath
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I was referring to the fact that Crusaders can be considered elites by virtue of being from noble houses, if Crusader Houses are anything like that.

storm jungle
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Because tabletop.

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its not that deep, the authors just never gave them any

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if you want to homebrew and give your crusader a p-armor go ahead tho

green loom
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Quickly skimming the lex

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They're not "noble houses"

crisp heath
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Okay, just want to check

green loom
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Seeing as they're seemingly tied closely to the Inquisition, and are pretty good on the corruption side, they can probably get power armour if available

vale shuttle
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so they're not gonna get much lore

green loom
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Yeah and because no one cares about normal humans crusaders when sisters, guard and Black Templars exist

celest dome
storm jungle
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Yeah Crusaders are basically

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"We need a sword shield guy for our dark heresy campaign"

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"Uh Im here"

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"Okay sure you're in"

vale shuttle
green loom
vale shuttle
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so yeah basically as dilara says they exist entirely for the 40k ttrpgs

green loom
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And Blackstone fortress thumbsup_ogryn

storm jungle
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You can get like 50 bodyguard types

crisp heath
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That's the least I know of their role, basically.

storm jungle
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Their entire purpose is basically "we need a space knight"

green loom
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Yeah but an inquisitor can also get guard vets, ogryn, Sororitas....

crisp heath
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I'm gonna wait for a time to get a Zealot Crusader subclass

vale shuttle
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it's "we need a space knight that isn't a marine but also can be male"

crisp heath
green loom
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Imagine their entire gimmick will be blocking things with the shield, and becoming wholly useless

crisp heath
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The Crusader, I mean

green loom
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Crusader houses seem to be specifically an inquisition thing

crisp heath
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Huh

arctic talon
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Crusaders are connected more closely with the inquisition

orchid lark
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used to be for priests

arctic talon
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Normally

crisp heath
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Waiting.

orchid lark
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but

arctic talon
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Also they like

storm jungle
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We already have a crusader cosmetic

orchid lark
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no man at arms

storm jungle
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it sucks

green loom
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And there's a bit of a difference between a madman plucked out and given a weapon and a madman plucked out, trained to death, and then given a weapon

orchid lark
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after the whole goge vandire shtick

crisp heath
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Okay, fuck Goge Vandire

arctic talon
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Aren’t part of the ecclesiarchy

orchid lark
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Ecclessiarchy are not really allowed to have their own "militarry"

arctic talon
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They’re connected in some ways

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But like

vale shuttle
crisp heath
green loom
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Ye

arctic talon
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They can just straight up say no

orchid lark
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who

crisp heath
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Where?

orchid lark
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the ecclessiarchy?

arctic talon
crisp heath
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Is it the one with rags?

arctic talon
storm jungle
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but like

arctic talon
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Can just say no

storm jungle
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its very half-assed

crisp heath
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Picture?

arctic talon
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Does it even have the helmet

orchid lark
storm jungle
green loom
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Crusaders still exist, priests can have "Battle Conclaves" they just can't be too big else they're murdered

crisp heath
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Ah.

arctic talon
vale shuttle
arctic talon
orchid lark
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the chest piece is bussin

crisp heath
vale shuttle
arctic talon
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Tbh

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Crusaders are cool

storm jungle
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jkfkjdsf THESE REACTIONS

arctic talon
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Mostly since they’re like

crisp heath
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You know, I kinda want it just for the plate armour

arctic talon
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Idk

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They look cool

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I like their drip

crisp heath
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Too bad I spent all my stuff on getting the game.

arctic talon
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Also had a fun character in blackstone fortress

green loom
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Little red riding hood with a side of plastic toys glued on

arctic talon
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Lol

crisp heath
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I would like to get the armour, but exclude the hood

orchid lark
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you can buy thing seperately

crisp heath
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Yes. It still does not help that I don't have money.

orchid lark
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ive done all i can

crisp heath
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Yep

vale shuttle
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maybe it'd look better if you put the recusants cage on instead of the hood

crisp heath
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So unless Aquilas become free in the far future somehow, I'm staying poor.

vale shuttle
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but im not wasting money to test that

green loom
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I'm going to need to go murder my roommate for listening to Garfield on speaker now

crisp heath
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Poorer than Hive church mice.

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Unrelated, I had this.

orchid lark
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as we get better with moulds, we might have to say to goodbye to chibi epic scale proportions

arctic talon
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The only Ordo who never really got an established look in 40k is like

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Xenos sorta

orchid lark
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Eisenhorn

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Ravenor

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Vail

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its black

crisp heath
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Their outfits are quite varied.

orchid lark
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like most inquisitors

crisp heath
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Generic Ordo Hereticus Inquisitors looked like Witch Hunters

storm jungle
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Hereticus/Malleus lean alot into like IRL european witch hunter looks

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Xenos is just whatever you feel like wearing

crisp heath
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Generic Ordo Malleus often looked like Paladins or Knight Templars or so

arctic talon
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Malleus also is like

orchid lark
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we got whats his face in Space Marine

arctic talon
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Armored up as hell normally

orchid lark
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looks like Eisenhorn

arctic talon
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Their asthetic is just armor on top of armor

orchid lark
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Vail had power armour

arctic talon
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She did

crisp heath
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Thematically, we don't have a Generic Xenos attire

arctic talon
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But xenos never got an overall asthetic on the tabletop

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Is my point

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Bcs they never got a codex

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Yeah

storm jungle
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haha owned

arctic talon
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It always seems to be

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More high tech then hereticus

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Less armored then malleus

crisp heath
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The named Inquisitors of that Ordo, they're mostly pretty much varied themselves.

arctic talon
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Hereticus is witch hunters in space

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Malleus is totally not space paladins

orchid lark
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Krazy Pants off looks like a priest

crisp heath
storm jungle
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Speaking of, heres my Ordo Xenos inquisitor

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No he doesnt have a hexmark gun, what do you mean staregryn

orchid lark
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there you go

arctic talon
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Neat

orchid lark
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we have an official look at the generic outfit

green loom
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I feel like I know this artist

orchid lark
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mission accomplished lets go home boys

arctic talon
storm jungle
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NOOOO-

arctic talon
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I will never forgive GW

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For not releasing codex xenos hunters

storm jungle
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also its true, I based his look on a very specific aesthetic

arctic talon
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Mmmm Fanta

crisp heath
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Oh, Fantastic.

orchid lark
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Fantasquisitor

crimson kayak
crisp heath
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Yes, I am aware of that.

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But Carapace Armour...

crimson kayak
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master crafted carapace is nothing to scoff at

green loom
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Yeah carrapace rocks

crimson kayak
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it's literally the best you can get ouside of power armour

crisp heath
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Time for comparisons between it and SoB Power Armour.

orchid lark
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something something something forgeworld contracts

arctic talon
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Carapace armor is pretty good in universe

green loom
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"Ok this nice Citroen is good but it can't compare with this high end Lamborghini"

arctic talon
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Like

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That stuff can eat a bolter shot

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And sometimes be fine

crisp heath
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We can attest that to the Crusher, at least.

orchid lark
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but dont you get it

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its not power armour

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muh space knights

green loom
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Yeah I love needing menials to put on my armour and having to do 293938292 rituals daily so it doesn't malfunction and tear me in half

arctic talon
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Also you forgot the power pack

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That thing gets damaged enough

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Ur done

orchid lark
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power packs explode

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since when

arctic talon
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Explode no

crisp heath
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Time for a few random things

arctic talon
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Make you unable to fight yes

celest dome
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They can explode

arctic talon
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They provide power

green loom
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Good luck moving a massive slab of metal stuck to you

crisp heath
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Like, Commissar Sabres.

orchid lark
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nah theyre strong enough to move without the power packs

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faith and shit

crisp heath
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In Darktide, are Commissar sabres the Heavy Swords or the Dueling Sabres?

celest dome
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Neither, or both and more

green loom
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Doesn't matter, they can probably use both

crisp heath
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(And honestly, they looked a little more like cutlasses)

green loom
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There is no such thing as "standard"

crisp heath
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It's still something to guess which ones might fit more in general.

scenic bolt
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the dueling sword were maccabian from when we still had item descriptions, the heavy swords are vostroyan

celest dome
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Still in the weapon name

crisp heath
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The dueling swords, yeah. But not the Heavy ones.

celest dome
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Though it's not Vostroyan but from its moon

crisp heath
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Now, something that bothers me so often.

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Are the Zealot hammers Power Hammers or Thunder Hammers?

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Design-wise, I mean.

storm jungle
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thunders are for marines

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the ones we use are power-hammers

orchid lark
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ahmmers

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whatre we french

storm jungle
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SHUT.

celest dome
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They are named Thunderhammer

crisp heath
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But are they Thunder Hammers?

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(Names are a different story)

green loom
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Are they about twice your size

celest dome
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Thunder hammer are Powerhammer

crisp heath
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Yes, for Astartes

orchid lark
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they function as thunderhammers, which releases the field on impact

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but are not Thunder Hammers

celest cedar
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Theyre Moebian made too! Crucis

celest dome
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In theory any SM weapon was adapted from normal weapon

soft sable
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not sure why but the "Mortis" Thunder Hammer skin looks like it was taken directly from the Deathwatch Space Marines, makes me think that some lucky Rogue Trader managed to get their charismatic paws on one which they later sold off to an Inquisitor for their private armies

orchid lark
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we have bolters, but not Bolters

celest dome
green loom
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Deathwatch is Inquisition staregryn

crisp heath
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It's still annoying on how there are basically two weapons that are basically the same but different

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Different being in relative sizes.

arctic talon
orchid lark
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its the military arm, so yeah, technically no

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they work alongside

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not for

arctic talon
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It also technically can ignore inqusitors

crisp heath
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Now for something that I'll say is pretty funky, for Psykers.

storm jungle
soft sable
coarse pumice
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Marine bolters aren’t that different, but imagine the bolter we do have but your character can control the recoil a lot better and have a helmet display for aiming

green loom
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Inquisitors can ignore inquisitors, they're still inquisition

orchid lark
arctic talon
orchid lark
green loom
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Massive Silver I on shoulderpad
Nope, totally not inquisition

crisp heath
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Can we get what are basically a pair of Warp caestus?

arctic talon
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The inquisition had them founded

crisp heath
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For Psykers?

celest dome
arctic talon
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But they literally don’t fall under their authority or command anymore

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So

orchid lark
crisp heath
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As a weapon for our Psykers here.

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Not like a Warp ability that would probably raise Peril just from using them.

soft sable
# orchid lark Gabriel Angelos begs to differ

rare exception, same thing with 40k space marine with Captain Titus, but overall GW only ever sold one handed thunder hammers for their kits and only the deathwatch or sternguard kits had access to a genuine 2 handed variant. Gabriel Angelos was a promotional piece for Dawn of war 3 which in of itself was a long forgotten mess, which is sadge because that model looks baller despite being stupid expensive Forge World mini...

green loom
orchid lark
celest dome
crisp heath
green loom
arctic talon
crisp heath
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You know what? On April Fools Day, give us these hammers.

arctic talon
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It sucks for marines using it already lore wise

crisp heath
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For free.

green loom
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GK weren't even made by the Inquisition and they still work alongside the Malleus a ton

orchid lark
storm jungle
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yES

crisp heath
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Technically.

arctic talon
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Yes

storm jungle
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oh whoops caps

green loom
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Yeah we're acolytes

arctic talon
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By the end of the campaign 100%

crisp heath
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Yeah, Level 30, we're Acolytes.

storm jungle
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but by Level 30 you take the Hereticus Oath, the characters say as much.

arctic talon
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At the start we’re conscripts

green loom
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Dregs though we may be but members we also are!

orchid lark
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suspicious

storm jungle
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you are suspicious

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sus even

green loom
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Idk where this bit about the deathwatch breaking off comes from considering they still work closely with the Ordo Xenos lol

green loom
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They still have inquisition iconography, they still sponsor a massive Ordo Xenos fortress on Talasa Prime

orchid lark
storm jungle
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💀

green loom
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Only thing I'd maybe say is that inquisitors IG can't boss them around? But that claim would be inconsistent on a good day

crimson kayak
orchid lark
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Whose rank is higher, a Deathwatch Watch Master or an Inquisitor lord

green loom
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Neither

orchid lark
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who knows

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Watch Masters dont leave the watch fortresses

crisp heath
#

The Emperor knows.

crimson kayak
#

deathwatch meanwhile gets the huge fuck off heavy thunder hammer

soft sable
orchid lark
#

nah we call it Terminator Armour

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Strong as one terminator arm

crimson kayak
soft sable
#

Dat big boi makes me want Heavy Bolters for Ogryns

green loom
#

That's a below average build Catachan

soft sable
crimson kayak
#

thunder hammer wielders are just built different i suppose

orchid lark
#

gabes hammer was also a gift from an inquisitor

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if i remember correctly

crimson kayak
#

that thing is fucking massive

soft sable
#

his armor was also substantially redesigned and rebranded then to just have him live inside a suit of Terminator armor like other Chapter Masters did (looks at Calgar)

orchid lark
#

strongest human to hold that hammer then

green loom
#

With a neck like that he's pretty marine adjacent

orchid lark
#

its an ordo malleus weapon

soft sable
#

hits just as hard regardless

crimson kayak
#

i consider them same as the GK nemesis weapons, literally just "look, my weapon does the same thing as your, but it's also anti-chaos!"

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(btw God-Splitter is heretical tech technically as it contains part of an Avatar Of Khaine's weapon)

vale shuttle
#

look the space marines must have the fanciest possible toys, and the GK must have the specialist fanciest possible toys that's why they can't have a force weapon and it has to be a

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nemesis force weapon

celest dome
#

Nemesis is just a way to say Artificer for me, like it's normal weapons but better quality and stuff

vale shuttle
#

there's a clear hierarhcy for fancy toys it goes:
Emperor
Primarchs
Custodes
Grey Knights
Jimmy Space Marines
Inquisitors I guess
Sororitas
like, everyone else in the setting

orchid lark
#

Forgetting house Van Saar and their shit

celest cedar
#

Are Sororitas like genetically engineered like Space Marines? Or it's the armor they wear and skill?

crystal forum
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skill

celest cedar
#

So they're pretty much normal humans in power armor then?

crystal forum
#

they definitely don't have a gene seed

green loom
#

Mostly

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Like they get augments iirc

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But nothing as invasive as marines

celest cedar
#

So underneath their bodies are still "normal"? What augments that they receive?

crimson kayak
#

depends

crystal forum
#

I think it's case by case

green loom
#

Think it's just the bits that let them use their power armour

crimson kayak
#

most sororitas don't have them to begin with, it's just power armour+skill and equipment

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when you equip your human force like space marines and have them incredibly zealous in what they do, you tend to get better results

green loom
#

And there's lots of them

celest cedar
#

Oh. Makes sense

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So are the Sororitas like the IRL Templars or more Hospitaliers?

crimson kayak
#

oh wait, one augment they have, and it's the muscle plugs for the armour

green loom
#

Both

crimson kayak
#

depends of the order

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same as how not all space marines are not romans or knights

green loom
#

Hospitallers and battle sisters are technically separate right?

crimson kayak
#

yep

crystal forum
crimson kayak
#

but they are armed sometimes because you know, battlefield medic

green loom
#

They also serves as traditional medicae

crimson kayak
#

yep

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they can be found within most imperial organizations

crystal forum
#

one of the only orgs that can use space marine vehicles

green loom
#

Well technically it's their own stuff

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Like Organ artillery, unique predator/rhino tank

crystal forum
#

wish the militarum could use rhinos

crimson kayak
#

i always wanted to make a 13/5 Regiment army just to get to use marine/heresy stuff as models

celest cedar
green loom
#

They're the chamber militant of the Hereticus iirc

crimson kayak
green loom
#

So they get grabbed a ton

celest cedar
#

Kinda like the Hospitaliers yeah

green loom
#

And still get grabbed a ton

crimson kayak
#

but you can find the hospitaliers even with guard regiments or on "peaceful" planets with a shrine

green loom
#

Because like, not many would refuse to aid His Holiest of Servants

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Unless they're like, a radical

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But they probably love Puritans that agree with themv

crystal forum
#

use their blood as holy protection

crimson kayak
#

also in the elucidian codex hospitallers are said to maintain codes of non-violence while everywhere else they are just as zealous and fighty as normal sisters.

storm jungle
signal bramble
orchid lark
#

Something something calls space marines Aberrants

crystal forum
#

based?

celest cedar
#

But then where's Grendyl's Sister company then?

orchid lark
#

Why would he need one

green loom
#

Probably no nearby orders

orchid lark
#

You make do with what you get or want

signal bramble
green loom
#

And it seems Grendyll is more down with having his own personal warband cult

orchid lark
#

Like a good inquisitor

crystal forum
#

they already have a shit ton of cannon fodder prisoners

celest cedar
#

I AM A WARRIOR xd

orchid lark
#

Sisters of battle gets added

signal bramble
#

Sisters of battle are expensive. Prisoners are expendable.

vale shuttle
orchid lark
#

Bye bye psykers

storm jungle
#

Basically

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its because the plot didnt want them

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it has nothing to do with resources

#

Same as how people say Darktide's scenario is beneath marines when Astartes literally do this rebellion quelling on a daily basis on planets

orchid lark
#

Inb4 people ask wheres sisters of battle rejects

green loom
celest cedar
#

I mean

crystal forum
#

come to think about it, wtf is up with that servitor in the "I am a warrior" scene and why does its face change

storm jungle
#

Oh god here we go

#

🍿

signal bramble
vale shuttle
celest cedar
storm jungle
#

there isnt a reason for it

orchid lark
#

He is among us

vale shuttle
orchid lark
#

Or on the planet doing stuff

green loom
#

SoB rejects are either repentias, penitent engines, arch flagellants
Or dead

storm jungle
celest cedar
#

I AM A WARRIOR

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I AM A WARRIOR

storm jungle
#

Yes we know

orchid lark
storm jungle
#

NOOO

vale shuttle
#

they should just give zealots a repentia costume

celest cedar
#

Its actually a really good setpiece XD

green loom
#

The real twist is Grendyll doesn't exist and Rannick is the actual inquisitor and it's an elaborate scheme to deflect assassination attempts

vale shuttle
#

zealots are pretty much already repentia, just give us the repentia costume

celest cedar
#

I AM A WARRIOR

vale shuttle
#

make it female locked if you have to, idc, just let me have it

crystal forum
celest cedar
#

I AM A WARRIOR

#

I AM A WARRIOR

signal bramble
green loom
#

It's her ship

orchid lark
#

What is this bot doing

signal bramble
#

The point is, people will argue over anything.

celest cedar
#

I AM A WARRIOR

crystal forum
orchid lark
#

I thought she was ship mistress

celest cedar
#

I hecking love being Grendyl's Warrior

vale shuttle
signal bramble
orchid lark
#

Year of our lord 2023 and i saw hecking being used

crystal forum
#

not very well communicated huh

orchid lark
green loom
#

Brahms, a rogue trader, is shipmistress of her own ship

celest cedar
vale shuttle
#

i actually see hecking being used a lot but it's mostly people being like "ha ha i hate redditors they say 'hecking doggerino'"

storm jungle
orchid lark
#

Brahms need some rejuv treatment

crystal forum
signal bramble
vale shuttle
#

it's stated in the uuuhhh

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subtitles

storm jungle
signal bramble
#

Not funny either.

celest cedar
#

From what I gather from banter: Brahms owes Grendyl a favor. So thats why Grendyl's using her ship to host Grendyl's own warband

vale shuttle
#

she'd subtitled as "Shipmistress Brahm" i think

arctic talon
orchid lark
#

Her face reminding i need to get new tires

green loom
#

Grendyll has some leverage over her and uses her ship as his personal club house

arctic talon
#

Tbh

#

She might just work for him

green loom
#

They mention her by name like 3 times in game

storm jungle
green loom
#

Smh you people don't play

arctic talon
#

That also

#

Aparantly inquisition members keep on getting into places

vale shuttle
#

i play the game

celest cedar
#

Imagine how Brahms react to the I AM A WARRIOR scene

arctic talon
#

They aren’t allowed to be in

signal bramble
vale shuttle
#

i just haven't been playing it much because it's got no new content in 6 months

#

seasonal content coming soon, eh fatshark?

arctic talon
orchid lark
coarse pumice
#

Rogue Traders have their own clout

arctic talon
#

Commandeering a ship usually requires a level of consent

arctic talon
#

Demanding to be given command

signal bramble
green loom
celest cedar
#

Grendyl's also grooming Rannick to be an Inquistor. Possibly succeeding Grendyl. Should they perish.

arctic talon
#

That is most likely the case

crystal forum
orchid lark
#

Sees an inquisitor rosette

green loom
#

Since it's 99% inquisition personnel now and is basically a mobile Inquisition command centre

orchid lark
#

I dont know walt

#

Seems sus

arctic talon
celest cedar
crystal forum
arctic talon
#

Point being an inqusitor usually can’t just waltz in and say I’m in charge now

#

For a ship

orchid lark
#

Eisenhorn did it

#

Vail kinda did it to a regiment

vale shuttle
#

what almost certainly happened with brahm / grendyl is this:
Grendyl: I'm commandeering your ship.
Brahm: "Oh." (not excited).
Grendyl: "You'll get a massive amount of respect, connections in the Inquisition, a large stipend, protection, and access to a massive amount of authority and resources."
Brahm: "Oh!" (excited).

crystal forum
#

god damn you eisenhorn

storm jungle
#

Basically to contrary to what people believe, you can't just wave your Inquisitorial badge aroudn and be expected to have everything fall on your lap.

If you don't have any influence or presence you'll probably just get shot lol

arctic talon
#

^

signal bramble
#

In a short story Im reading, an inquisitor makes a deal with a planetary beat cop. When the soldier carried out his end of the bargain, the inquisitor woke up the commander in the middle of the night and made him sign the cop’s promotion papers to lieutenant.

storm jungle
#

basically its like a DEA officer walking to the middle of a cartel kingping's house

#

and going

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"You are all under arrest"

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lmao

signal bramble
#

So it is possible the inquisitor struck a deal with the ship lady.

arctic talon
#

An inqusitors authority only goes as far as their reputation

crystal forum
celest cedar
#

Brahms owes Grendyl a favor. I think just hitting up Brahms and goes "yo I need your ship brah" and Brahms just accept it.

arctic talon
#

Inqusitor bumfuck trying to commandeer a ship is gona get filled with holes by a flechette gun if he tries to shoot the captain

signal bramble
orchid lark
#

the lore deeepns

crystal forum
arctic talon
crystal forum
#

remember kids, primarch skulls are better than helmets

green loom
#

Idk Guilliman gets a lot of pushback

signal bramble
#

Mostly because they don’t know what kind of back up he has watching.

orchid lark
#

they dont get paid enough for this shit

arctic talon
storm jungle
#

Even if you are a strong inquisitor you are risking your life constantly waving that badge around

#

its not a good idea

orchid lark
#

what if the Rogue Trader was our favourite fan hero Carlos McConnel

arctic talon
#

It’s always better to take a diplomatic approach

signal bramble
storm jungle
#

Like even if you are an very well known inquisitor

green loom
#

The crew maybe not, but the loyal voidsmen who've been living on the ship since before the inquisitor was ever born might

storm jungle
#

imagine walking into like

#

the HQ of a GSC cult

#

and saying they will surrender and submit to you

#

yeah you are getting chopped up

arctic talon
storm jungle
signal bramble
#

Bad example.

crystal forum
#

what if the rogue trader is pedro pascal

storm jungle
#

most inquisitors are power hungry

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and dumb

orchid lark
storm jungle
#

why do you think we see them in lore so much

crystal forum
storm jungle
green loom
signal bramble
celest cedar
#

Bruh Grendyl should just bring HIS WARRIORS to that 2nd hive city

#

before Morrow told us the classic

green loom
#

Which warpjack are you

storm jungle
#

like the infamous uh

celest cedar
#

"Never you mind

storm jungle
#

EMIL DARKHAMMER

signal bramble
#

Vale. Crowl. Eisenhorn.

storm jungle
#

again

#

you are picking the sane well known ones

signal bramble
#

The one in the book I’m reading now whose true name we don’t know yet.

green loom
#

Aren't Eisenhorn and Vail from older books

arctic talon
#

Vail is pretty well respected

storm jungle
#

Eisenhorn uh

#

gets fired twice

signal bramble
#

Amberley Vail is the best written inquisitor in 40k.

storm jungle
#

and turns heretic

arctic talon
#

Same with Eisenhorn before his decent into becoming a radical

green loom
#

Hey remember that Eisenhorn mobile game?

arctic talon
#

Tbf

#

He was pretty well respected

#

Before he

#

Yeah

orchid lark
#

Eisenhorn sane for being juiced up for blank puss

storm jungle
#

NOOO

green loom
arctic talon
#

There’s a level of respect that’s required

#

To just have someone listen

crystal forum
arctic talon
#

But most voidsmen and ship command staff are most loyal to the captain

#

Which is pretty odd

#

In 40k

#

But also meh

signal bramble
# green loom Is it because she sleeps with Cain

No. Because she uses a combination of wit, charm, smarts, and brute force to get her way. She doesn’t threaten exterminatus on everyone. She’s smart enough to vary her approach depending on what needs to be done. She’ll let her hair down but when shit gets serious she’s cold as ice.

storm jungle
crystal forum
arctic talon
green loom
signal bramble
#

Amberley is great.

orchid lark
#

need my throne scrips

#

dont give a fuck whose manning the ship

crimson kayak
#

to a voidsmen the captain is the equivalent of a planetary governor

green loom
#

He's da Chief

orchid lark
#

i want my p0rno-slates and lho sticks

crystal forum
#

i get paid exclusively in dead rats

orchid lark
#

but what about in game tho

green loom
#

After living with my roommate I'm fairly sure I could stomach living on a nurglite vessel

arctic talon
#

Which is a bit absurd

crystal forum
#

dead rats are free. you can bring them home

arctic talon
#

Then again the captain could just

#

Vent the airlocks and kill everyone

green loom
#

Personal guards aren't always disloyal

arctic talon
#

So maybe it isn’t absurd

arctic talon
green loom
#

But they're also like

arctic talon
#

But they aren’t suicidally loyal like a lot of voidsmen

green loom
#

From a way bigger recruitment pool

#

And most voidsmen are from straight up families that have lived on the ship for generations iirc

crystal forum
#

don't voidsmen basically spend multiple generations in ships

green loom
#

Yep

#

So they're basically fighting for their home as much as the captain

crystal forum
#

so yeah might become tradition to serve

celest cedar
#

the f's a Voidsmen

signal bramble
crystal forum
celest cedar
#

oh

crystal forum
#

what we'd call a seaman

green loom
#

Imagine if the Navy had its own militant hall monitors

orchid lark
#

space warrior

celest cedar
#

thats a general term to encompass all the people in a navy ship?

green loom
#

No

orchid lark
#

seamen?

signal bramble
orchid lark
#

yeah

green loom
#

Voidsmen specifically are basically marines

orchid lark
#

Voidborn

arctic talon
#

Voidsmen at arms is the specific name

orchid lark
#

unlucky

arctic talon
#

Usually gets shortened to voidsmen

orchid lark
#

we dont like voidborn folks

signal bramble
#

Several books show they’ll go on a planet and conscript randos from a planet for the honor of serving on a ship.

#

By force.

arctic talon
green loom
#

Then those become the next generation if they survive thumbsup_ogryn

arctic talon
green loom
#

Remember that time

#

The Black Templars killed a bunch of Longshanks

signal bramble
orchid lark
#

because voidborn is no good

arctic talon
#

But yeah

crystal forum
#

imagine being called to change the reactor core

orchid lark
#

superstition is helluva thing

arctic talon
crystal forum
#

more like soon to die slave

signal bramble
# arctic talon POV slave

Hey sometimes the voidsmen have it pretty good. In the devastation of Baal book one gunner crew does so well, the space marine captain rewards them with extra rations and an additional 6 minutes of sleep.

Christmas has come early.

arctic talon
#

I’m just making a dumb joke tbh

crystal forum
arctic talon
#

Voidsmen are treated slightly less terribly then your average manufacotrum slave

signal bramble
#

And it’s hilarious.

orchid lark
#

do i want to step in bird shit or dog shit, its all the same in the end, we die

vale shuttle
#

goddamnit ive been sitting on james workshop's website for five minutes waiting for the imperial guard showcase for 10th and i just realised THEY HAVE A HOLIDAY DUE TO THE FRIGGING KING

#

bri'ish "people" and their "MONARCHY"

orchid lark
#

thats good

vale shuttle
#

ruining my daily dose of 10e

vale shuttle
#

!!!

#

thjank you khalith it literally is still not appearing on my page

signal bramble
#

I got you.

orchid lark
#

never pressed F5

vale shuttle
#

probs gonna have to clean out my browser cache lmao

vale shuttle
# orchid lark never pressed F5

no i kept pressing f5, what probably happened is my browser went "just gonna reload the page same as it ever was to save broadband and time" which caused the page to not update

orchid lark
#

couldve checked twitter

vale shuttle
#

i only use twitter for furry art

orchid lark
#

what

#

like

#

Ezoid

#

or Meesh

crystal forum
vale shuttle
#

here's the first thing i got when i loaded it up

orchid lark
#

thats just a bird

crystal forum
#

half life 2 cosplay

orchid lark
#

id show mine but id get banned

crystal forum
#

same

vale shuttle
#

im not gonna flood the discord chat with furry art, you get the picture

crystal forum
#

i get the art actually

vale shuttle
#

ok im stopping now before i get carried away

crystal forum
#

tail cape

signal bramble
#

This is a lore channel, you shouldn’t be posting it here anyway.

orchid lark
#

sorry police officer

vale shuttle
#

better @ our local moderator to ban me

green loom
#

Pathfinder has some neat lore

vale shuttle
#

maybe when dilara comes back she'll do it

signal bramble
#

Nah it wouldn’t warrant a ban, just deleting the images and a verbal.

orchid lark
#

we got the verbal from you

signal bramble
#

At least that’s what I do on the servers I mod.

orchid lark
#

so one more to go eeh

crystal forum
#

it does merit a verb

vale shuttle
#

...really?

crystal forum
#

maybe even a noun

vale shuttle
#

better give yourself a verbal warning

green loom
#

An adjective perhaps

vale shuttle
#

because this is a lore chat not a moderation chat

storm jungle
#

we try to be lax for the most part because if theres one thing i hate its asshole mods who constantly make people move chats KEK

#

so ill let it fly this once but yeah back to lore peeps

orchid lark
#

ive posted the same furry shitpost here three times and all dilara does is just type AAAAA

vale shuttle
#

i mean i don't normally go off on furry art tangents so 🤷

storm jungle
#

I DIDNT SEE IT

#

IM DOING UNI SHIT

vale shuttle
#

conversations veering off into random places is just what happens when people talk

orchid lark
#

imagine studying

crystal forum
#

mods not looking quick post images of corn

vale shuttle
#

oh god i need to study tomorrow

signal bramble
#

I’m currently reading the vorbis conspiracy which is a warhammer crime novel. It’s really good and interesting. Has that noire grit in the 40k setting.

green loom
#

I have an exam in
3 hours

orchid lark
#

just get a game design degree and an animation diploma lmao

#

its that easy

green loom
#

I hate linguistics

vale shuttle
signal bramble
#

There’s also a short story called dredge runners that is hilarious.

crystal forum
orchid lark
#

you have debt?

crystal forum
#

nope, i live in a sensible country

orchid lark
#

why would I have debt

crystal forum
#

university

orchid lark
#

shame that

#

imagine having debts

vale shuttle
#

i have debt except it can't be collected until i hit a certain income level so if i flunk out and become a gravedigger i'll never have to pay it off, thus banishing it to the taxpayer and causing the downfall of western civilization or something

crystal forum
#

the only debts i have is with the irish mob

orchid lark
#

gravedigging is a noble profession

#

honorable if you will

green loom
#

I'm apparently indebted to my family so they reserve the right to take all my money at any point

orchid lark
#

i cant imagine that lmao

crystal forum
#

my family refuses to take my money no matter how much i insist

green loom
#

The refuse to let me spend a couple euros on a new hard drive to replace my 12 year old one

celest cedar
#

I hecking love the Imperium

orchid lark
#

just straight up named Malay

#

which I am

crystal forum
celest cedar
vale shuttle
#

innovation is a psyops made by the foul chaos xenos to destroy the imperium and introduce heretical law

vale shuttle
#

better just sit in a circle and bang rocks together for the rest of all time

green loom
#

Thank God for the cloud

orchid lark
green loom
#

Though if it kicks it I'll lose my Wrath of the Righteous save

#

Which will hurt

celest cedar
storm jungle
#

As long as you aren't greek we'll have no problems

orchid lark
#

racist

green loom
#

Blue Turkish

vale shuttle
#

I HATE THE SWISS

orchid lark
#

mods report this person named Dilara

celest cedar
#

Dont worry

storm jungle
crystal forum
#

if you're friends with socrates then i don't want to talk to you

vale shuttle
#

i'm knwon for my incredibly racist rants against switzerland and their lovely cheeses and chocolates and all that fuck them

celest cedar
orchid lark
#

im muslim i gotta side with the turks

#

damn it

green loom
#

I technically should despise the ottomans but I'm past the point of caring

orchid lark
#

and cats

#

i love cats

crystal forum
#

i don't trust meat on stick

green loom
#

I trust meat stick

vale shuttle
#

this is my catte

green loom
celest cedar
#

Playing a lot of BF1 got me at least know a few Turkish words

crystal forum
orchid lark
celest cedar
#

DUSMAN, TESEKULER

orchid lark
#

Careful inb4 Khailith says no pet pictures

celest cedar
#

HAYDFE

#

HAYDE

orchid lark
#

This is a lore chat

crystal forum
#

lore cat

green loom
#

Does Hayde mean "let's go"?

vale shuttle
#

because this is the second derailment today dilara will return to personally kill me

celest cedar
#

Im pretty sure I spell Tesekkurler wrong here xd

vale shuttle
celest cedar
vale shuttle
#

is james workshop wasn't a COWARD he'd make felinids furries to appeal to the suspiciously rich furry market

green loom
#

Oh cool so that's where we picked it up from

crystal forum
green loom
#

"Ajde" here is used a ton for "come on" or "alright" or "let's go"

orchid lark
#

Okay when they say Felinids are hairy but can be mistaken for most humans

celest cedar
orchid lark
#

we all agree they look like felicity from darkstalkers right

green loom
#

No

celest cedar
#

Bosnian?

green loom
#

No

celest cedar
#

Greek?

#

xd

green loom
#

No

celest cedar
#

Serbian

#

OMEGALUL

orchid lark
#

in his language

green loom
#

Yes

orchid lark
#

no is yes

crystal forum
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ancient mesopotamian

celest cedar
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So Serbian? nice

orchid lark
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Serbian? He was really insulted on the Bosnian comment

green loom
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Not really since I'm not a real Serb thumbsup_ogryn

celest cedar
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hehe

orchid lark
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dont ask Serbians what their parents did in 1994

celest cedar
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I know where this is going if we decide to go further xd

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but I cant lie

celest cedar
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MY DAD IS A WAR CRIMINAL is a banger

orchid lark
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dont ask your chechen class mate where his uncle is

crystal forum
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so much hatred in countries smaller than most US states

green loom
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So he didn't do much

orchid lark
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leave it there

green loom
vale shuttle
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those countries have a history of being angry at each other longer than the US has been a thing

crystal forum
orchid lark
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this is a discord channel, no reason you need to put your dads life here out of privacy

green loom
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I think the city

crystal forum
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the state is pretty massive

orchid lark
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look at the state of it

crystal forum
vale shuttle
green loom
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Shit we don't even have the tech for DNA

orchid lark
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ill show you my dna samples if you dont knock it off

crystal forum
green loom