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they've got a team doing it now
I am the great and mighty Kevin!
your brain is made of bad meat
alfa is an entire team of people
NO IT'S GOOD
HOW, WOULD YOU, KNOW THIS????
HTP also has that thing where its definitely quotable but people don't spam it everywhere.
unlike TTS which is cancer

why do you hate it so much
TTS isn't the problem it's the 40k fanbase
Also htp's story is better instead of just being a shitpost for the greater half of it
i feel like 80% of the conversations we have is "why is the 40k fanbase so bad"
guess im lucky that i didn't interact with the TTS fanbase
I think its because it keeps true to the core of the setting where one second its haha hilarious then goes to fucking horror movie
like one second haha vampires fighting each other
then you got pyotr beating the face in of shitbeard
its horrible 
Trapping vampires in your cellar as your Sunday morning activity turns out to be a poor idea.
This is the worst chapter-title in the series, for the record, but it was worth it.
Base Script/Story by Alfabusa and SpeakerD
Script Writers: SpeakerD, Alfabusa
https://twitter.com/SUPERSNAKEKICK
Script Editors: O...
I must have a messed up sense of humor because i laughed at it
"Do I mean it? Come on... what do you think?"
because there's an alarming amount of people who inject their politics into it and it started as a hobby for nerds
its definitely working both ways
very Evil Dead where its funny but also "jesus christ"
this is my BOOMstick
but yeah ill say while i do miss TTS i like HTP a lot more
maybe it will come back one day when Alfa wants it
i like how cozy HTP is
gimmie more HTP
they're going for 2000's nostalgia and i love it
This.
it's more focused which is better for a studio that can't put out a lot of episodes
it definitely really captures the time capsule feel
and yeah pretty much
TTS has a lot more shit going on
also way too many useless sideplots

TTS had a lot going on because it started as a silly shitpost and evolved into something serious
it still remains to be seen what happens once HTP gets out of the "setting the theme" stage
whereas HTP started as something serious
there's a lot of mentions of big things about to happen
Ima go rewatch htp thsnks guys, there goes my day
lmfao owned
also yeah pretty much but we'll see
enjoy the Kevin and Big D argument about blenders
OH YEAH
they made a fucking episode about Big D going to buy a blender actually engaging
idk what kind of sorcery you need to do for such writing
YOU CANNOT BUY A BLENDER AT THE 99p STORE
"Senile old freak"
"What did you just say-"
"SEEN AISLE 3?"
in 1922 Steven Plopawski mounted an agitating element in a simple glass container
its either that or him injecting weird substances into his brainstem to like cats
not to like cats
idk how alfa find so many talented voice actors
to not kick Mr. Smerples into a chimney
90% is his friends
or just "work" colleagues
that's insane
yeah lmao
actually i dont think ANY of the cast members are outsiders
like literally all of them are more or less in the same circle
damn i want friends like that
maybe they're all D&D vets so they're good at roleplaying
Alfa is apparently friends with ADB
id believe it
He has an acklowledgement at the very end of Echoes of Eternity
what a legend
im so jealous


Chris Metzen? The WoW guy?
Callback to that time Karl the Deranged stole his dad to voice cultists
I really love the TTS creators, they're generally fun and epic
They just spawned a monumental group of idiots
Oh and ThunderPskyer makes good reviews
Entirely good and great points here.
When he makes them every 4 years
Worth the wait
I dove deep into the whole "Alfa Legion" thing they had going on before they left it
What a weird ass group
They even made a game
tbh i don't think they spawned the idiots i think 40k fans are just awful
like as dilara said i ain't seen anyone overquoting HTP
Yeah but every other monkey you meet says they got into it via TTS and are still annoyingly obsessed with it
I'm still of the opinion that Alfa saw the copyright shit going on and took the opportunity to put TTS in hold to focus on things that are fun
I got into it from tts i just know how to seperate a fan project from the main franchise
I mean just look at how much more frequent uploads were after
yeeeaaaahhh
this is why i don't interact with 40k fandoms
Why you here then 
this is the only exception
i'm eternally cursed to interact with 40k fandoms because all my other fandoms are either dead or became hostile to me
PITY ME
i get it it's a reference to the "in the grim darkness of the far future there is only war" part of the intro!
I'm only here to hate on Krieg and meme in this chat

And occasionally post fun art 
Its DEFINITELY possible and makes total sense
he has a family to feed too so jumping ships and not taking a chance is good
I dont ever blame him for doing it lmao
you don't need to be legally in the right to take down youtube videos
but he made like, a big video about it and iirc he sounded sincere
so i feel like he was genuinely spooked
Yeah but people don't give enough credit to GW for how aware they are or this stuff
At least their marketing and PR
imagine Tek and Mek received a Ceise and Desist
It was majorily to not take the risk yeah
he does like TTS a lot
Which is still fair
and Speaker D (Big D's voice actor) has said Alfa and co have been into World of Darkness for a very long while, so it makes sense to jump onto another IP for a bit
alfa is the only creator i've seen who makes advertisements interesting
"I will remind you, I own multiple ILLEGAL firearms!"

From one of the first episodes
but... crabs

Didnt alfa get some sort of deal with WoD for the license?
Less deal and more just acknowledgement
since hes basically doing free advertisement
from the legal disclaimers it seems like they got express permission
yeah that
Purdy based
and people watching the vids have said a lot of people have gotten into Hunter/VtM thanks to him
Who
LSDFKDLKDS
||im looking into doing a VtM thing now even though i really dont have th etime and shouldnt||
pro tip
wiki
youtubers
VtM has been around as long as warhammer so theres a shit ton of lore
You get into to much stuff frequently dont you
I've been watching Bricky since he was Brickyorchid8, and when he was still a League YouTuber in Gold Elo
ehhhhhhh...not really? what gives you that impression?

Seen you talk about doing to much more than once
hrmmm the only things i think i've recently got into was a new sisters of battle army and now VtM
I've gone from SWTOR, to Mass Effect, to Dragon Age, to WoW, to FFXIV, to Darktide, to Vermintide, to Cyberpunk, and now to Pathfinder
I see ill just assume im confused
but that's to replace the death guard army and the dnd group that both fell apart after i ||had a total mental breakdown for about four months and lived the life of a wretched hermit and constantly thought about killing myself all the time all the time all the time||
🫂
Sounds about how my instrests go too
.....and Albion
getting into 40k tabletop has been pretty therapeutic to me
i've ordered paints (60$!!!) and now i'm eagerly awaiting them to arrive
I was going to get models from a local store I found but they didn't respond to my emails and got shouted at for wanting to buy stuff before I'm done with exams 
my sisters of battle are engaging in a heated war over the Book of the First Sorceries, an Old Ones tome sealed away by the Silent King and forgotten. now the sisters, necrons, thousand sons, and world eaters do battle on the lost planet of Yaishash IV to claim this relic
ederius what models do you want? is it spess mareens?
That sounds like a clusterfuck
it's just a backdrop for crusade games
Was going to be one of those cheap starter kits with a few paints and like 3 models
To try it out
im starting with 3d printed models so i'm pretty happy
But again the store didn't respond, and GW shipping policy is vague AF
not much investment if i end up disliking the hobby
paints are so expensive though
does GW use crushed rare egyptian beetles or something
Im just gonna by a octarius box from amazon or something
Because everything gw sells is over priced
i bought my primer from them
GW has some good technical paints that i like like uuuhhhhhhh their dry paints and shades and stuff
but im still moving over to vallejo
my current problem is sanding down my 3d printed parts. takes a lot of time
i wonder how the tabletop community treats 3d printed armies
From what I understand, unless you go to a very hardcore GW store they don't care
i've heard rhodes' poaints are more expensive than GW
i thought about this actually. GW could curb 3d printing by adding official rules for printed units that gives them debuffs 
"bad STC template" modifier
you would be considered an ass if you enforced those rules, really.
The rule was more or less dont use fully 3rd party stuff for official events
If youre shooting the shit for fun in the gw store
I doubt they care
Essentially dont bring count as stuff
every GW store I’ve been to doesn’t care
Just don’t start screaming about how you printed it
yeah so only competitive players will enforce it 
just feels like gatekeeping to me if you only allow stuff that costs hundreds of dollars
I’ve never had it enforced on me and I’m a comp player so

Going great so far lol
hobby gaming is plagued with gatekeeping sadly. a lot like some online games lol
hey gatekeeping a community because of skill, difficulty or niche experiences is one thing, gatekeeping because of money is a whole other thing
to be fair, i prefer to gatekeep people that post about warhammer on social media out of warhammer communities, vastly improves things.
tbf most of life gatekeeps because of money lol
:3c
Gatekeeping is not inherently bad. It depends on the context.
true
warhammer is inherently bad, that's the context.
some gatekeeping can be good. to much and its like poison for the community and all to often these communities become filled with toxic gatekeepers
Do you guys remember that time Starscream betrayed Megatron in Dawn of War 2
40k shouldnt be gatekept as you dont have to play the game to be a fan, only enjoy the world and stories.

Of course. Starscream betrays megatron in every setting they’re in.
And so it was with Araghast and Eliphas
I do think Gatekeeping and the toxic side of the community has gotten worse with how much more competitive the game has gotten via the editions and less about fluff and creativity. I hear horror stories for instance, usually pertaining to women and how they are treated by their local communities and frankly, I find it to be a very sad state and that I myself was lucky to be apart of communities that were open to anyone as long as you were not toxic to others.
Its basically a two sided coin.
You got lots of shitty and toxic people both on the lore and tabletop front.

yup
i've been called a gatekeeper for a lot of things but i'll never do it for somebody who straight up can't afford a hobby
Yeah was part of a forum ages ago, Librarium Online, and they were very toxic when it came to the lore side of 40k. On the tabletop side of things I think its just been getting worse with the change of the game going from more casual to more competitive as the editions go along.
how many kids even play tabletop these days? a single unit is like a birthday present
so expensive
Is 40k for everyone? No. Should it change for everyone? No. You either enjoy some aspect of it or you dont. I dont go over to the YuGiOh adults and demand their hobby changes to my interest.
The only people Warhammer isn't for are Fascists
GW has already said it
I actually dont mind kids playing 40k or enjoying the 40k universe. What I dont care are for people that lack the temperament for the game. Seen enough adults act like children and children act more mature than some adults
agreed. I cant stand that people on the outside straight up call warhammer Fascist propaganda and latest one I heard was antisemitic because Tyranids represent a minority.
gw proceeds to make every faction fascist as it says so
/S
Tyranids, who literally probably outnumber the planets in the galaxy, are the minority here? Lel
Pretty much everyone anyone that plays or dives into the 40k Universe know how absolute trash it would be to live in that universe. There is very little to praise or strive for
yeah because the big bad Nazi Astartes were beating them up in the most recent trailer
Then there's the average BT fan 
Weren't the SM getting shredded by the Tyr though ?
So wait.... Following this reasoning both aliens and predator are Americans derooting illegal immigrants, yes yes
yeah
It just how bizarre the article was.
Yeah it's more of a last stand by that squad than anything else
Yeah the implication is they die
The fact that people would even entertain the idea that tyranids represent a minority makes me think they should look to themselves for racism
No idea what minority it would even represent
the thing with kids is they're the ones who will grow up to enjoy the game as an adult. if the game is too expensive for them then inevitably the community will get smaller and smaller over time
Especially when they outnumber the other factions.
I am getting a growing urge to draw Darktide stuff 
i've had the constant urge to abuse my printer with 40k models for 2 weeks now
somebody needs to stop me it's unhealthy
I've done 2 pieces that are hilariously above my standards so I'm real confident rn
Eeee I even have an idea for the composition
well are your models painted?
not yet
waiting for the paints i've ordered
i've never painted minis before so im excited and terrified
plan out your painting scheme
i'll probably just follow a tutorial since i've literally never done this before
fair. what faction are your models?
leman russes. imperial
Have fun painting
Alright here’s the first and most important rule of painting. Be kind to yourself, it’s a skill like any other that has to be developed. You’re not going to make them as good as the codex ones on your first try.
^
And that’s ok.
Something something thin your paints something
honestly what i'm more scared of is if i've sanded down the details correctly
i don't want printer lines and stuff
i might have to not thin them because i want the paint to fill some gaps
Bad idea.
Get putty if you can
You’ll drown out the details if your paint is too thick and they sell modeling putty to fill gaps.
i use wood glue
funny how i can explain away some imperfections as intentional battle damage too
Most imperfections won’t even be noticeable tbh.
should i glue the tank together then paint or paint first then glue
A standard russ can be glued together and painted. There aren’t really any hard to reach spots.
even the sponsons?
Nah.
Use the 2 feet away rule
Imo
If you’re 2 feet away and can’t see it
It won’t matter
The sponsons go over the side panels so you can paint them without needing to paint the parts below.
Also the sponsons won’t stick properly if paint is in the way.
My painting on my russ has been slow but I’ve been magnetizing.
combined
what if instead of the current young king sacrifice to summon the Avatar, you have six Exarchs perform a dance, and then they fuse and become the Avatar, some kind of Fusion Dance.
Ah yes, a Megazord
quite literally the Jewish minority
so yes this article compared giant man eating bugs to the jews in the camps.

wot
yeah it was SJW brainrot at its finest
Reminds me of when the same vein of person compared orcs to black people lol
yup
Every person with 2 neurons know that Orcs are the British
it's just twitter being twitter
people seeking to be outraged about something that doesn't matter
and in turn causing us to be outraged
yup
Orks are british football hooligans
that has been true basically from day one
oxford rugby klub
I'm half way though the book warboss it's pretty fun
i need to read some ork stuff
Brutal kunnin is good I hear
It is.
I finished it about 2~ weeks ago.
Can the Furries serve the Imperium?
Abhumans can IE beastmen so yes
👍
he is an abomination
if GW finally gives us furry models maybe
the people are asking to play their wolf fursonas as space wolves
who are GW to say no
He is a loyal servant of the imperium
And is one of the best imperial bounty hunters to ever live
Also he’s got approval from the administratum and ecchlesiarchy to operate
(This doesn’t stop some zealots from trying to kill him)
such an uncivilized profession for such a monstrosity like him it is fitting
Furries are sexier than humans tbh
We got Cat people
Dont know about now
But Scalies are a thing in Necromunda way back when
Maybe Scalies will come back as mercernaries for Necromunda
man i know beastmen in 40k are dumb, but what the crap is that thing he's pointing with supposed to be?
Plasma Pistol
Mercs make do with the shit they got
awh hell nah, they gave him the PS1 polygon plasma...
Everytime you finish a mission you get executed before entering the Mourning Star
Why dont the Eldar just leave the galaxy
because the void between the galaxies is vast and dangerous, the craftworlds move at sublight speeds so they'd need to go through webway to exit near the edge of the galaxy which is risky since the webway isn't properly mapped, has breaches, and could lead to somewhere with threats, and Aeldari farseers suspect slaanesh would follow them out of the galaxy
Because outside the home galaxy there are even worse things around
Aeldari farseers suspect slaanesh would follow them out of the galaxy
Doesn't Chaos fear something even more dangerous outside the Galaxy ?
not to my knowledge
what's outside the galaxy is like, vague spooky things and tyranids (which are spooky but not vague)
there's also no warp outside the galaxy there's just the quiet tides of the realm of souls. so while the milky way may be like a raging tempest due to all the emotions, the intergalactic void is more like a dead still lake. so there's nothing in there for the chaos gods to care about
Staying inside the webway is ill advised
They themselves cant really traverse most of it
Cept the Blank Harlequins or something
They seem to know the ins and outs better
Or was it harlequins in general
Only harlequins know the whole path and there’s also frequent breaches or chaos incursions
Not to mention the fastest 12 ft tall kinda human moving round
I like to think Khans actually in the black library just chilling and reading
Some actual peace and quiet
this raises the posibility of other galaxies having their own gods of chaos and daemons of the warp
whcih is cool as hell IMO
If its like Dune there will be humans in other galaxies as well
Well kinda like dune
As long as they dont pull a Mass Effect Andromeda itll be fine
40k is Dune but legally distinct lmao
40k is just the less environmentally friendly version of Dune
yes
you could tell me dune takes place in the 40k milky way
and I would have 100% believed you
yeah it's one of those things which is rad as hell but will never be explored ||unless they do 40k end times GW get to it||
Nah. Warp probably extends to other galaxies but there are likley other gods in the warp already.
it just dawned on me that the servitor in the I AM A WARRIOR cutscene switches faces for two reasons
1: to conceal grendyl's identity
2: it's using the faces in the room
cuz grendyl could be anyone
Grendyl was Rannick the whole time
Rannick is a puppet

Inb4 Grendyl was a student of Ravenor or some shit
Uses Eldar Soul Stones and shit
On to you Abnett
This fan hypothesis would only hold water if Darktide was still against Genestealer infestations
Now with combatting plague related stuff
We’re definitely under the mixed leadership of Hereticus and Malleus, with some elements of them whatsits
Ordo Sepulturum
Then again Grendyl could be just head inquisitor appointed by the regional Conclave
We're under Hereticus
The Order don't really mix together
I almost said Ordo Necros but we dont know the fuck they do
The orders dont mix well, they mix worst when Inquisitors of different philosophies are added
Puritans and Radicals
Hell certain Puritans dont like certain other Puritans
Grendyl does strike me as a Puritan
Probably the bog standard Amalanthian
Seeing as Ogryns and Psykers are being used
What we need are some good old Seculous Attendous Inquisitors to really tear shit up
Every institution is flawed and requires heavy fixing
No waits the Recongregationism
Those are Cabals, they aren't really unique/exclusive to one ordo or another
You mean the radical beliefs?
Its a philosophy of thought
It can be an individual to a conclave
The different belief, puritan and radiacal have a few different ones
Yeah minor forms of the schools of thought within the two separations
Its not tied to a singular cabal
Cabal are informal group of Inquisitor and analogue that work together, usually becuse they are of the same belief
No
Cabals are varied
Typically
Dark Heresy points this out specifically
I hate ssing lexicanum
A summary of page 319 of Dark Heresy rulebook
(Assuming its still canon, but we arguably have less evidence of it being non canon)
As Motoko Kusanagi once said
“Overspecialize, and you breed a weakness.”
ive been meaning to run dark heresy but the rules bring me pain
Yeah the old books were ug
Uh not ideal for most things
The Rogue Trader stuff kinda holds up
And is more fun
Waiting for Owlcat to adapt it to cRPG form 
Ive played it and its enjoyable
DH2e is painfully complex with no resources to make it easier
I know, I'm saying I'm waiting for them to do a Dark Heresy one
Different
That's a diablo clone
i've had an idea in mind for a while now of a party working for a rogue trader who's a massively powerful psyker (basically he's too useful to get rid off but too dangerous to keep around so he's a rogue trader) with the caveat of he has to have an inquisitor breathing down his neck at all times
Rogue Trader though
Inquisition appointed commissars
Or interregator
Or just a space marine company
(Thats a thing and possible.)
He could be among us
i was planning on using dark heresy kinda flavoured like rogue trader, except the party is actually working for the inquisitor (unless they choose to betray her and work behind her back with the trader)
GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD
You're dealing with a rogue trader who's a massively powerful psyker
That has no way of going wrong whatsoever and is totally trustworthy
was planning on having the trader be like, bombastic and waay overly friendly, but also super manipulative
with his end goal being to dispose of his assigned inquisitor quietly and vanish before the imperium takes notice
This will in no way shape or form backfire
sort of mission of the week based working for both Gideon (psyker) and Gloria (inquisitor), having to slowly over time pick a side
like if anyone here's played destiny imagine Calus as a psyker
completely lore-breaking? probably
The only lore breaking part is that "very powerful psyker" and "human" usually result in "batshit insane"
oh gideon's absolutely batshit insane, he's just very good at keeping it together
sadly i tried to learn DH2e and gave up after like 3 days
Be like
I can't judge, I find DnD 5e confusing
see, here's the fun part
by the time of the campaign gideon and gloria have actually already been together, but somethings caused them to split
and they had a kid together, who's now like 12
except uh
the kid's a blank
cant believe they both hate the kid
gloria loves the child
gideon hates it
a relatable character
"loving" a blank is certainly a character trait
i mean, the blank's still her kid blank or not
all custodes OCs be like
And still a blank
Jurgen, a relatively weak blank, is reviled by all around him
are we talking like Null, or Blank Blank
Except Cain
and Vail
whats the difference
but Vail saw a useful asset and friend
theres empty, and theres the void
im talking like makes a psyker want to implode blank
Well one smells bad, the other causes you excruciating pain to be around
Doesn't stop at Psykers either
i know psykers are particularly vulnerable to it
This one time they sent a Culexus to deal with Aunva or whoever the Tau pope was
And the other Tau near the assassin began clawing their eyes out
Culuxes are also trained to draw out the blank gene to an extreme degree
Strong blanks are difficult to find because their parents usually neglect, throw them out, or straight up kill them
kid wouldn't be a strong blank most likely
Doesn't matter, if theyre naturally that bad it'll make everyone around them feel it
Being a Blank doesn't iherently make you smell bad, it's just that Jurgen smell bad
It's an example
blanks have negative traits that are probably exagerrated
our mind finds something bad and exagerrates it
Priestley confirms blanks shouldn’t have been added to the setting
Null are just the highest echelon of Blank/Pariah
Usually they become Sister of Silence or the Blank Assassin
also gloria being ordo mallius would likely find having a blank on board super useful considering she's afraid gideon's gonna undergo evolution into a daemon or warp storm at any given moment
From the creator of 40k itself
it gives her a tool and also yknow, is still her child
give me my little pocket of hope
Don't care, there are much worse lore from him still existing
As an inquisitor she's probably uniquely placed to be aware of blanks so maybe that'd negate it
Doesn’t in some book, a blank get ‘burned out’ and become normal?
I remember a Psyker having such happen, but not about Blank
also i remember having a whole little crew lined out for the ebony pillar (gideon's ship)
If there is, it’s actually not being ‘soulless’ but just a weird phenomena, like a powerful organic null field
There are spooky ghosts in the webway
damn ghosts
It’s also the real ‘consciousness’ which is why you can get tortured in the warp
insert ppart from Outcast Dead where the Librarian gazed upon the two Thunder Warriors
burned brighter than astartes souls
including a mercenary pair of orc freebooter and exiled tau firewarrior under the employ of gloria. still haven't figured out what caused those two to meet and not murder each other any ideas
i don't know how on holy terra those two could've met without killing each other but the concept was funny enough to me that i'll figure out a way
Soulless has always been a weird way to view it, like Blank like Psyker have different level of psychic interference and stuff
I prefer it as a different frequency of soul
not physically on terra
its a 1 to -1, not a 1 to 0 kinda thing with blanks
And don’t soul ripping weapons also leave the bodies basically inert (so being actually soulless is like being a piece of wood)
im coming up with warhammer themed swears see
Yeah, I think the term they use is misleading but it works ‘in universe’ where they don’t know wtf is going on
good heavens
If normal human are 0
Then Psyker should go from 1 to 10
And Blank from -1 to -10
i hear them say holy terra on darktide a bunch
well yeah if you want to go like that, but thats not the example I was going for, but thank you
yeah good heavens
tho thats preachers and preachers are weird
Throne! Seems to be a stand in for damn
Kark for Fuck
1 and 0 are equal opposites, 1 and -1 are opposite equals
or was it the other way around...
theres dead and alive, and theres dead and undead
love me sparking all this conversation about blanks and nobody's questioning me mentioning a powerful psyker having a blank kid
Because why would it ?
if the emperor can have bunch of kids of varying psychic levels, its fine
Sometimes people just get mutations man
fair enough
Sensei or the Primarch ?
figured that psyker/blank gene might he genetic
primarchs, dont know if the sensei stuff is still a go ahead
Some are linked to genetic work from Necron, but for most we don't know, like with the Psyker too
also now im curious totally off topic but what primarchs can still possibly return?
Aren't really his kid, they are lab rat that he modified
youu tell him that
afaik aren't vulkan, corvus, leman, kahn, and maaaaaaaybe ferrus manus the only remaining living primarchs that aren't already back
Loyalist:
Leman, Dorn, Corvus, Vulkan, Khan
i dont want to talk about how the primarchs were a reminder of the emperors core humanity again
Manus is dead
isn't dorn dead and gone
no
Up in the air
isn't there rumours of admech making a mechamanus
not rumours
Still not Manus tho
Was dead (Found whole skeleton) retconned as MIA (only found the hand)
ah ok
wiki says found skeleton
No ?
wiki says odd things then
Talking about the one Vulkan smashed to pieces?
Was Vulkan who did it?
Use the Lexicanum, better sourced
i know someone smashed it because they were insulted
Vulkan
you right
wiki says there's rumours of admech trying to revive ferrus manus that both admech and iron hands vehemently deny
Fulgrim had the cloning tech that Bile made for him to constantly make Manus clones
so Fulgrim can have a moment where he succeeded in getting manus to join the chaos side
cept Manus even when cloned still said no
lmfao
turns out if you make a decently good copy of a good person
theyll still be a good person
also shoutout to the random imperial fist that saw horus in the battlefield and went "fuck it we ball"
Oh the age of darkness trailer?
i mean shoutout to the Iron Hands who almost succeeded in assassinating horus a bunch
Meduson?
I think he made.....two attempts?
Maybe only one
They tried reviving him right after he died
I think Vulkan smashed it
imagine having that conversation
"Ah, brother chadicus, where have you been?! we were looking for you!"
"war's over"
"i... what? brother chad what do you mean?"
"i killed horus. his body's right there"
"WHAT"
They nearly got the entirety of the traitors' high command once
The Shattered Legions were some tough bastards
Meduson and his Shattered Legion are the best shit from horus heresy
even if we lose, win
Then you had guys like uhh
I mean the """""revived"""" Ferrus during the HH was little more than cogs and machinery with their fathers hands and a cloak covering it all
Autek Mór?
Mor was cool too
if corvus comes back i will straight up buy a ravenguard army
Mor's influence to the end
didn't corvus corax turn into a warp demon after playing WARP Eternal for like 8000 years
He's been hunting for a minute
Less, he was a creepy bird monster during the scouring already
Iirc that's when the Lorgar fight happens
Hmmm, I thought that was later
love my man/creepy bird monster corvus
having wings is the natural evolution of all primarchs
wings and humanity is connected
i feels it
hoping he's next cuz i'd buy his mini in a heartbeat
next primarch would be chaos again i feel
never bought a mini before
gotta get the big four out first
would fucken preorder corvus
If it's based on popularity?
Leman
Though Corvus and Jaghatai are better plausible contenders
didn't leman straight up dive into the eye of terror
More so than Jag and Corvus
like full freebird
he was sick of life
Magnus threw a bone into a warp rift I guess
poor guy
He went chasing it
all primarchs are "perpetual" Vulkan is Perpetual Perpetual
There's to much......uncertainty surrounding him tbh
Fulgrim comes back in 10th
wdym
prediction
No only Vulkan is a perpetual
Then Russ
something something Primarchs are semi perpetual because of how they were made or someshit
Russ is gonna come back I think!!
id also be happy to have russ baxk
There is a difference between perpetual and effectively, physically immortal
you right
isn't big e both
Space Marines and Primarchs are Lobsters
The other primarchs aren't perpetuals lol, how many of them are dead?
Didn't save him from getting put on the gold plated toilet XD
Sanguinius is technically in a stasis coffin
4 I think
Like at least 4 + the redacted ones
they wanted to maintain Sanguinius immortal beauty
also am i correct that a solid description of big e's current predicament is "he's not on the brink of death, he's dangling over death being held in place by a single thread"
yeah
And the throne is definitely failing too
It's all mechanicus duct tape down there
Has been for....millennia. The last few centuries seem to have been in the fast lane
Hard Shell, scrumptious meat, make sense
Yeah
The warp overtakes terra
the lighthouse just goes dark seems to be the only thing we know for sure
It's all fucked!
I mean Custodes and the High Lords were so desperate they almost gave the Drukhari Big E dna without even really knowing it
i mean either the warp rift or the talisman is gonna obliterate terra
my hope is for the warprift to open just in time for the full holy force of the talisman of seven hammers to drop right on khorne's ugly face
The long secret game is to charge the emperor up to super Saiyan warp god levels through worship then let him die...but if it happens before he's ready it's all gonna go wrong....
Bruh Drukhari were the closest they've even been to being able to make their own Big E
he's starting to ascend isn't he?
dont know
New Eye of Terror, so whole Solar System would be gone.
Mars and a few other would survive because they can move around
didnt he fucken torch nurgle's garden recently
Yeah, but the garden shall bounce back
he resurrected Guilliman at the same time too
theres some crazy shit with his powers
He resurrected Jaghatai too
yeah
also something about a little girl somehow allowing space marines to survive nurgle's worst poisons
Indeed
He has to be insanely powerful to take on all 4 gods
didnt he posess a child
a living saint thing?
Do you mean an eldar god or an actual child?
lemme check
i forget the actual excerpt but i remember someone being able to fight off nurgle's worst toxins and it being described as a radiant holy light
Hmm
Its probably just a saint in a random book
Doesn't Saint Sabath possess/reincarnate as a little kid at some point ?
Adrian Smith art my beloved
thats Warmaster Slaydo to you punk
he Master'd some War's thats for sure
Sabath ?
Sabbat is the Sector

just saw a fucked theory
Oh boy
Good, I love Saint Sabbat

Im lying they suck
the lighthouse is the emperor's soul slowly burning away, like a candle instead of a supernova. The golden throne and the psychic choir steady it and keep it from going nova
thats not a theory
thats the literal lore
oh is that it?
but the Emperor is doing 90% of the hard work
the 10% are all the choirs/battery-people psykers
what i mean is it's essentially the emperor dying, but instead of the warp-nuke it should be its just a candle
Oh no it is a warp nuke. The moment he dies Terra will explode.
and all FTL travel for humanity will be gone
thats not what im saying
We're burnign through the navigators
im saying the lighthouse is him dying. the slow burn of his soul fading away and reconstituting back into his golden hell
whats next captain
also when big e dies is the new eye of terror
A: the emperor's psychic scream
B: the warp-rift bouncing back after millenia of being held shut
or C: both
cuz as far as i can tell from the fall of cadia warp rifts REALLY dont like being held shut or supressed
maybe an opposite rift

they are studying the pylons
A whole revamp of 40k ?
Though it would be painful for a time
tbf i feel loke the necrons could be a huge ally to us
cadia wasnt the only planet with pylons
Necrons dont care about humanity
There are hundreds if not thousands with 'em
they are racist like us
ah
Yeah its more that like
The Necron don't care about us, we're just pest on their lawn
why would you help someone who wants you dead

also to erase your entire existence because uh
some religious book said so
We help you and you give us bodies and flesh yes?
I say we teach the necrons a lesson and chuck flayed ones at their tomb worlds
That'll learn 'em
i do feel like 40k is heading towards some sort of end times
Tbf people have been saying that for a looong time
40k will basically only get nuked if its not making money
a reboot is hard to tell but might happen at some point
40k 2
Nah just skip to 50k
we have 2 primarchs back, big e is set to die out within a century, rifts tearing the galaxy apart
also the silliness of 40k is just good
okay so one thing you need to know about 40k
theres no stakes
the Imperium usually always wins and defeats the other faction
no steaks?
aka chaos
whats for dinner then
isn't shit so bad that the grey knights are actually considering the terminus decree
Me irl
Yeah but again
these are random plot points
seems like the IoM is getting fucked rn
that will never get brought up again
The Imperium has for essentially it's entire existence from the HH onwards has been a couple minutes from midnight and midnight being it's destruction
I've never had steak 
Terminus Decree be like lol lmao look behind you
It has been getting fucked for 30 years since 40k was made
and its just Rogal
rogal?
Mogal
Bogal
Bocka
also my theory is that the terminus decree is a method of wiring up the talisman and the golden throne to the webway gate
let big e die and have his psychic scream just shred the warp as a last ditch effort
The Terminus Decree is just "Go ask your grandma Erda for help"
who knows
Emperor be like you shouldve it when the fucking Nova Terra Interregum fucking happened you morons
It's confirmed what the terminus decree is in the new vook
is it?
Welp that's sad but she's dead
also speaking of how'd lion get ressed
he literally just woke up
Revived? He just woke up and went for a long walk
ah
we had this discussion
he made his own fantasia
because he's a big fan of the Neverending Story
cant he teleport to like any forest
Now why he woke up and what he's been doing since he woke up until the book kicks off?
Who knows
the forest is the nexus point
Mirror Caliban is the Fantasia
as long as he feels it
he can appear from anywhere via the forest
its like Chalkzone
I do love how the Lion had like what 2 books prepped for his return a few years in prior
meanwhile xenos still get shit
*god kill me
Hang on
C'mon Dilara. This Tyrannic War will be impactful I swear.
Please believe me, the Tyranids are a threat!
imagine your just a random imperial guard on patrol and fucking lion'el johnson walks out of the forest
PAIN.
They literally would have no idea who he is
"Holy shit, its a space marine but bigger!"
"ive seen stained glass windows of him"
Lmao
also is alpharius dead?
I thought Alpharius died, and Omegon is Alpharius now
Nah the other way around
on one hand ive heard he's dead but on the other hand hasn't he been reported as being killed by like 3 different primarchs
Also I legitimately thought GW just skipped from 1 to 4
The other two Tyrannic Wars were real everyone, they happened and did something lasting to the imperium
got personally kissed by Rogals Chainsword
Lmao yeah thats another thing
the tyrannic wars were literally just a few pages in the nid codex
Baal was the third War
they werent massive campaigns like what we get these days

Baal got instantly recovered too
And the third war got overshadowed by Khorne
Nowadays you get a Warzone book and shit
Lmao
We made Baal Primus beautiful again
And the second war was uhhh.....checks
Sotha getting nommed. Pharos world ded
I've been in this hobby for 10 years and even I cannot remember what happened lmao
the tyrannic wars are INCREDIBLY handwavy
That's an understatement XD
lmao true
Literally every space marine got more out of the war than lost anything
that too
like literally nothing happened
"thousands of world were consumed"
waow what a loss
The only Tyrannic war that anyone remembers is the first one, unless you're a nid fan
Yeah this
alright admech get the big farming tractors again
nother instance of 40k moving the plot by spinning the wheels in place
hell the Tyranid Invasion in Dawn of War 2 was also like a foot note lmao
oh yeah that happened
The hive fleet got somewhat rebuffed by a company of SMs and a battalion of guardsmen essentially?
Lmao
Every tyranid fights with space marine be like
True
"alright whoever was in the deathwatch make a team and get some venom, we will make a poison for them."
"Librarians start stand fighting"
then Imperium won
wahhoo
mission accomplished lets go home boys
But trust me gamers, the 4th Tyrannic Wars is going to be a big deal. Guilliman said so.
Now I swear it won't be overshadowed and instantly forgotten because chaos is fighting the Lion
Trust me it won't happen
fucking Cyrus even went, the tyranids are easier to fight lmao than the Necrons
XD
YES
"Attack the monolith!!"
LMAO
to be fair
at least in that cinematic they get butchered
because 10 IQ strat
I like when they dramatize Space Marines as running head long like idiots
whilst in books space marines use fucking tier 1 tactics
Mfw the Tyranids are just gonna be the Necron """""""threat"""""""" all over again
they did it in DoW1 intro too
the strongest space marine scream ever
and get reduced to White Dwarf articles
also wow bad bot
XD
damn bots
there also a few extras in the video
Oh god
a true hero
love my American space Marines
I keep forgetting that Blood Ravens have just
American Accents
No bri'ish???
Gib kiwi marines
what about Welsh Catgirls?

Bruh




