#40k-lore-chat

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storm jungle
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i dont get how lmao

vale shuttle
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they've got a team doing it now

near wasp
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I am the great and mighty Kevin!

vale shuttle
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your brain is made of bad meat

crystal forum
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alfa is an entire team of people

vale shuttle
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NO IT'S GOOD

storm jungle
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HOW, WOULD YOU, KNOW THIS????

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HTP also has that thing where its definitely quotable but people don't spam it everywhere.

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unlike TTS which is cancer

crystal forum
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why do you hate it so much

vale shuttle
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TTS isn't the problem it's the 40k fanbase

storm jungle
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that yeah

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better worded

near wasp
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Also htp's story is better instead of just being a shitpost for the greater half of it

vale shuttle
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i feel like 80% of the conversations we have is "why is the 40k fanbase so bad"

crystal forum
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guess im lucky that i didn't interact with the TTS fanbase

storm jungle
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like one second haha vampires fighting each other

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then you got pyotr beating the face in of shitbeard

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its horrible KEK

near wasp
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I must have a messed up sense of humor because i laughed at it

storm jungle
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"Do I mean it? Come on... what do you think?"

crystal forum
storm jungle
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very Evil Dead where its funny but also "jesus christ"

crystal forum
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this is my BOOMstick

storm jungle
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but yeah ill say while i do miss TTS i like HTP a lot more

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maybe it will come back one day when Alfa wants it

crystal forum
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i like how cozy HTP is

vale shuttle
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gimmie more HTP

crystal forum
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they're going for 2000's nostalgia and i love it

storm jungle
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This.

vale shuttle
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it's more focused which is better for a studio that can't put out a lot of episodes

storm jungle
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it definitely really captures the time capsule feel

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and yeah pretty much

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TTS has a lot more shit going on

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also way too many useless sideplots

vale shuttle
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TTS had a lot going on because it started as a silly shitpost and evolved into something serious

crystal forum
vale shuttle
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whereas HTP started as something serious

crystal forum
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there's a lot of mentions of big things about to happen

near wasp
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Ima go rewatch htp thsnks guys, there goes my day

storm jungle
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lmfao owned

storm jungle
vale shuttle
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enjoy the Kevin and Big D argument about blenders

storm jungle
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OH YEAH

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they made a fucking episode about Big D going to buy a blender actually engaging

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idk what kind of sorcery you need to do for such writing

vale shuttle
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YOU CANNOT BUY A BLENDER AT THE 99p STORE

near wasp
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And it has story signifigance

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Like bruh

storm jungle
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"Senile old freak"

"What did you just say-"

"SEEN AISLE 3?"

vale shuttle
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in 1922 Steven Plopawski mounted an agitating element in a simple glass container

storm jungle
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its either that or him injecting weird substances into his brainstem to like cats

vale shuttle
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not to like cats

crystal forum
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idk how alfa find so many talented voice actors

vale shuttle
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to not kick Mr. Smerples into a chimney

storm jungle
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or just "work" colleagues

crystal forum
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that's insane

storm jungle
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yeah lmao

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actually i dont think ANY of the cast members are outsiders

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like literally all of them are more or less in the same circle

vale shuttle
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damn i want friends like that

crystal forum
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maybe they're all D&D vets so they're good at roleplaying

orchid thicket
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Alfa is apparently friends with ADB

storm jungle
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id believe it

orchid thicket
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He has an acklowledgement at the very end of Echoes of Eternity

storm jungle
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YES THAT

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I forgot about that

vale shuttle
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what a legend

storm jungle
vale shuttle
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im so jealous

storm jungle
near wasp
green loom
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Chris Metzen? The WoW guy?

green loom
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I really love the TTS creators, they're generally fun and epic

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They just spawned a monumental group of idiots

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Oh and ThunderPskyer makes good reviews

storm jungle
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Entirely good and great points here.

orchid thicket
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When he makes them every 4 years

green loom
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Worth the wait

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I dove deep into the whole "Alfa Legion" thing they had going on before they left it

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What a weird ass group

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They even made a game

vale shuttle
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tbh i don't think they spawned the idiots i think 40k fans are just awful

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like as dilara said i ain't seen anyone overquoting HTP

green loom
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Yeah but every other monkey you meet says they got into it via TTS and are still annoyingly obsessed with it

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I'm still of the opinion that Alfa saw the copyright shit going on and took the opportunity to put TTS in hold to focus on things that are fun

near wasp
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I got into it from tts i just know how to seperate a fan project from the main franchise

green loom
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I mean just look at how much more frequent uploads were after

vale shuttle
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yeeeaaaahhh

crystal forum
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this is why i don't interact with 40k fandoms

near wasp
crystal forum
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this is the only exception

vale shuttle
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i'm eternally cursed to interact with 40k fandoms because all my other fandoms are either dead or became hostile to me

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PITY ME

near wasp
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No

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There is no pity only war

vale shuttle
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i get it it's a reference to the "in the grim darkness of the far future there is only war" part of the intro!

green loom
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I'm only here to hate on Krieg and meme in this chat

near wasp
green loom
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And occasionally post fun art thumbsup_ogryn

storm jungle
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he has a family to feed too so jumping ships and not taking a chance is good

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I dont ever blame him for doing it lmao

green loom
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I mean I doubt he'd be touched anyway

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Since parody

storm jungle
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Yeah pretty much

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TTS was never really under threat

vale shuttle
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he might've got a bit spooked and then bailed

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or he might've used it as an excuse

crystal forum
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you don't need to be legally in the right to take down youtube videos

vale shuttle
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but he made like, a big video about it and iirc he sounded sincere

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so i feel like he was genuinely spooked

green loom
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Yeah but people don't give enough credit to GW for how aware they are or this stuff

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At least their marketing and PR

crimson kayak
storm jungle
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he does like TTS a lot

green loom
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Which is still fair

storm jungle
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and Speaker D (Big D's voice actor) has said Alfa and co have been into World of Darkness for a very long while, so it makes sense to jump onto another IP for a bit

crystal forum
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alfa is the only creator i've seen who makes advertisements interesting

storm jungle
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that too

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but i still skip them

green loom
storm jungle
green loom
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From one of the first episodes

crystal forum
storm jungle
near wasp
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Didnt alfa get some sort of deal with WoD for the license?

storm jungle
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Less deal and more just acknowledgement

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since hes basically doing free advertisement

crystal forum
storm jungle
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yeah that

green loom
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Purdy based

storm jungle
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and people watching the vids have said a lot of people have gotten into Hunter/VtM thanks to him

green loom
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You know who I don't like though

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The podcast Bricky runs

near wasp
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Who

green loom
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I LOVE Bricky

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And I like the art they have

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But please go to hell

storm jungle
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LSDFKDLKDS

vale shuttle
storm jungle
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pro tip

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wiki

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youtubers

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VtM has been around as long as warhammer so theres a shit ton of lore

near wasp
green loom
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I've been watching Bricky since he was Brickyorchid8, and when he was still a League YouTuber in Gold Elo

vale shuttle
green loom
near wasp
green loom
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No that would be me

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In the last month

vale shuttle
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hrmmm the only things i think i've recently got into was a new sisters of battle army and now VtM

green loom
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I've gone from SWTOR, to Mass Effect, to Dragon Age, to WoW, to FFXIV, to Darktide, to Vermintide, to Cyberpunk, and now to Pathfinder

near wasp
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I see ill just assume im confused

vale shuttle
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but that's to replace the death guard army and the dnd group that both fell apart after i ||had a total mental breakdown for about four months and lived the life of a wretched hermit and constantly thought about killing myself all the time all the time all the time||

green loom
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Oh right War Thunder should be in there as well

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I'm consistent I promise KEKW_ogryn

near wasp
green loom
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.....and Albion

crystal forum
vale shuttle
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im running a crusade campaign now

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with some of my old friends

crystal forum
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i've ordered paints (60$!!!) and now i'm eagerly awaiting them to arrive

green loom
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I was going to get models from a local store I found but they didn't respond to my emails and got shouted at for wanting to buy stuff before I'm done with exams thumbsup_ogryn

vale shuttle
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my sisters of battle are engaging in a heated war over the Book of the First Sorceries, an Old Ones tome sealed away by the Silent King and forgotten. now the sisters, necrons, thousand sons, and world eaters do battle on the lost planet of Yaishash IV to claim this relic

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ederius what models do you want? is it spess mareens?

near wasp
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That sounds like a clusterfuck

vale shuttle
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it's just a backdrop for crusade games

green loom
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Was going to be one of those cheap starter kits with a few paints and like 3 models

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To try it out

crystal forum
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im starting with 3d printed models so i'm pretty happy

green loom
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But again the store didn't respond, and GW shipping policy is vague AF

crystal forum
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not much investment if i end up disliking the hobby

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paints are so expensive though

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does GW use crushed rare egyptian beetles or something

near wasp
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Im just gonna by a octarius box from amazon or something

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Because everything gw sells is over priced

vale shuttle
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buy vallejo

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when i reach for a paint i want a vallejo

crystal forum
vale shuttle
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GW has some good technical paints that i like like uuuhhhhhhh their dry paints and shades and stuff

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but im still moving over to vallejo

green loom
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Apparently the uhhh

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New paint thing

crystal forum
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my current problem is sanding down my 3d printed parts. takes a lot of time

green loom
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Duncan Rhodes made

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Is good

crystal forum
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i wonder how the tabletop community treats 3d printed armies

green loom
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From what I understand, unless you go to a very hardcore GW store they don't care

vale shuttle
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i've heard rhodes' poaints are more expensive than GW

crystal forum
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"bad STC template" modifier

summer rover
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you would be considered an ass if you enforced those rules, really.

orchid lark
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The rule was more or less dont use fully 3rd party stuff for official events

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If youre shooting the shit for fun in the gw store

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I doubt they care

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Essentially dont bring count as stuff

arctic talon
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every GW store I’ve been to doesn’t care

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Just don’t start screaming about how you printed it

crystal forum
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just feels like gatekeeping to me if you only allow stuff that costs hundreds of dollars

arctic talon
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Going great so far lol

plush mason
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hobby gaming is plagued with gatekeeping sadly. a lot like some online games lol

green loom
crystal forum
summer rover
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to be fair, i prefer to gatekeep people that post about warhammer on social media out of warhammer communities, vastly improves things.

plush mason
summer rover
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:3c

signal bramble
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Gatekeeping is not inherently bad. It depends on the context.

plush mason
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true

summer rover
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warhammer is inherently bad, that's the context.

signal bramble
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🙄

plush mason
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some gatekeeping can be good. to much and its like poison for the community and all to often these communities become filled with toxic gatekeepers

green loom
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Do you guys remember that time Starscream betrayed Megatron in Dawn of War 2

near wasp
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40k shouldnt be gatekept as you dont have to play the game to be a fan, only enjoy the world and stories.

signal bramble
green loom
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And so it was with Araghast and Eliphas

balmy abyss
# plush mason some gatekeeping can be good. to much and its like poison for the community and ...

I do think Gatekeeping and the toxic side of the community has gotten worse with how much more competitive the game has gotten via the editions and less about fluff and creativity. I hear horror stories for instance, usually pertaining to women and how they are treated by their local communities and frankly, I find it to be a very sad state and that I myself was lucky to be apart of communities that were open to anyone as long as you were not toxic to others.

storm jungle
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Its basically a two sided coin.

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You got lots of shitty and toxic people both on the lore and tabletop front.

plush mason
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yup

crystal forum
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i've been called a gatekeeper for a lot of things but i'll never do it for somebody who straight up can't afford a hobby

balmy abyss
crystal forum
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how many kids even play tabletop these days? a single unit is like a birthday present

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so expensive

balmy abyss
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Is 40k for everyone? No. Should it change for everyone? No. You either enjoy some aspect of it or you dont. I dont go over to the YuGiOh adults and demand their hobby changes to my interest.

celest dome
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The only people Warhammer isn't for are Fascists
GW has already said it

balmy abyss
balmy abyss
crimson kayak
crimson kayak
balmy abyss
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Pretty much everyone anyone that plays or dives into the 40k Universe know how absolute trash it would be to live in that universe. There is very little to praise or strive for

balmy abyss
green loom
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Then there's the average BT fan staregryn

celest dome
crimson kayak
balmy abyss
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It just how bizarre the article was.

crimson kayak
green loom
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Yeah the implication is they die

languid salmon
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The fact that people would even entertain the idea that tyranids represent a minority makes me think they should look to themselves for racism

celest dome
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No idea what minority it would even represent

crystal forum
signal bramble
green loom
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I am getting a growing urge to draw Darktide stuff loregryn

crystal forum
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i've had the constant urge to abuse my printer with 40k models for 2 weeks now

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somebody needs to stop me it's unhealthy

green loom
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I've done 2 pieces that are hilariously above my standards so I'm real confident rn

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Eeee I even have an idea for the composition

languid salmon
crystal forum
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not yet

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waiting for the paints i've ordered

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i've never painted minis before so im excited and terrified

languid salmon
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plan out your painting scheme

crystal forum
languid salmon
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fair. what faction are your models?

crystal forum
arctic talon
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Have fun painting

signal bramble
arctic talon
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^

signal bramble
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And that’s ok.

arctic talon
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Something something thin your paints something

crystal forum
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honestly what i'm more scared of is if i've sanded down the details correctly

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i don't want printer lines and stuff

crystal forum
signal bramble
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Bad idea.

signal bramble
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You’ll drown out the details if your paint is too thick and they sell modeling putty to fill gaps.

crystal forum
arctic talon
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That works

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You can fill in gaps

crystal forum
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funny how i can explain away some imperfections as intentional battle damage too

signal bramble
crystal forum
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should i glue the tank together then paint or paint first then glue

signal bramble
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A standard russ can be glued together and painted. There aren’t really any hard to reach spots.

crystal forum
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even the sponsons?

signal bramble
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Nah.

arctic talon
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Use the 2 feet away rule

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Imo

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If you’re 2 feet away and can’t see it

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It won’t matter

signal bramble
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The sponsons go over the side panels so you can paint them without needing to paint the parts below.

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Also the sponsons won’t stick properly if paint is in the way.

crystal forum
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ooooh true

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thanks i'll get to gluing then

signal bramble
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My painting on my russ has been slow but I’ve been magnetizing.

crystal forum
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see i wanted to magnetize

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but i also want to make an entire army of tanks

coarse pumice
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what if instead of the current young king sacrifice to summon the Avatar, you have six Exarchs perform a dance, and then they fuse and become the Avatar, some kind of Fusion Dance.

crimson kayak
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Ah yes, a Megazord

plush mason
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so yes this article compared giant man eating bugs to the jews in the camps.

green loom
crimson kayak
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wot

plush mason
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yeah it was SJW brainrot at its finest

orchid thicket
plush mason
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yup

celest dome
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Every person with 2 neurons know that Orcs are the British

crystal forum
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it's just twitter being twitter

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people seeking to be outraged about something that doesn't matter

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and in turn causing us to be outraged

plush mason
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yup

dapper cloak
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Orks are british football hooligans

plush mason
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that has been true basically from day one

coarse pumice
desert dust
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I'm half way though the book warboss it's pretty fun

crystal forum
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i need to read some ork stuff

green loom
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Brutal kunnin is good I hear

signal bramble
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I finished it about 2~ weeks ago.

crisp heath
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Can the Furries serve the Imperium?

arctic talon
crisp heath
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👍

arctic talon
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Behold gor half horn

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Very (in)famous necromunda bounty hunter

arctic talon
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He’s not that ugly

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For a beastman

balmy abyss
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he is an abomination

vale shuttle
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the people are asking to play their wolf fursonas as space wolves

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who are GW to say no

arctic talon
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And is one of the best imperial bounty hunters to ever live

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Also he’s got approval from the administratum and ecchlesiarchy to operate

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(This doesn’t stop some zealots from trying to kill him)

balmy abyss
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such an uncivilized profession for such a monstrosity like him it is fitting

crisp heath
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Furries are sexier than humans tbh

orchid lark
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We got Cat people

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Dont know about now

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But Scalies are a thing in Necromunda way back when

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Maybe Scalies will come back as mercernaries for Necromunda

summer rover
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man i know beastmen in 40k are dumb, but what the crap is that thing he's pointing with supposed to be?

dapper cloak
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Plasma Pistol

orchid lark
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Mercs make do with the shit they got

summer rover
dapper cloak
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Yeah its some weird variant

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Necromunda has alot of weird stuff like that

arctic talon
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He’s got a plasma gun, a stub gun, and a shotgun

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His plasma gun looks very goofy

orchid lark
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Everytime you finish a mission you get executed before entering the Mourning Star

thick cedar
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Why dont the Eldar just leave the galaxy

vale shuttle
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because the void between the galaxies is vast and dangerous, the craftworlds move at sublight speeds so they'd need to go through webway to exit near the edge of the galaxy which is risky since the webway isn't properly mapped, has breaches, and could lead to somewhere with threats, and Aeldari farseers suspect slaanesh would follow them out of the galaxy

celest dome
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Because outside the home galaxy there are even worse things around

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Aeldari farseers suspect slaanesh would follow them out of the galaxy
Doesn't Chaos fear something even more dangerous outside the Galaxy ?

vale shuttle
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not to my knowledge

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what's outside the galaxy is like, vague spooky things and tyranids (which are spooky but not vague)

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there's also no warp outside the galaxy there's just the quiet tides of the realm of souls. so while the milky way may be like a raging tempest due to all the emotions, the intergalactic void is more like a dead still lake. so there's nothing in there for the chaos gods to care about

orchid lark
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Staying inside the webway is ill advised

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They themselves cant really traverse most of it

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Cept the Blank Harlequins or something

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They seem to know the ins and outs better

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Or was it harlequins in general

arctic talon
orchid lark
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Not to mention the fastest 12 ft tall kinda human moving round

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I like to think Khans actually in the black library just chilling and reading

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Some actual peace and quiet

open pumice
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whcih is cool as hell IMO

orchid lark
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If its like Dune there will be humans in other galaxies as well

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Well kinda like dune

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As long as they dont pull a Mass Effect Andromeda itll be fine

open pumice
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40k is Dune but legally distinct lmao

orchid lark
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40k is just the less environmentally friendly version of Dune

open pumice
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yes

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you could tell me dune takes place in the 40k milky way

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and I would have 100% believed you

coarse pumice
vale shuttle
astral whale
coarse pumice
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what could have been

upbeat dagger
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it just dawned on me that the servitor in the I AM A WARRIOR cutscene switches faces for two reasons

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1: to conceal grendyl's identity
2: it's using the faces in the room

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cuz grendyl could be anyone

orchid lark
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Grendyl was Rannick the whole time

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Rannick is a puppet

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Inb4 Grendyl was a student of Ravenor or some shit

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Uses Eldar Soul Stones and shit

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On to you Abnett

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This fan hypothesis would only hold water if Darktide was still against Genestealer infestations

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Now with combatting plague related stuff

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We’re definitely under the mixed leadership of Hereticus and Malleus, with some elements of them whatsits

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Ordo Sepulturum

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Then again Grendyl could be just head inquisitor appointed by the regional Conclave

celest dome
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We're under Hereticus

orchid lark
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Good

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They got the nicer hats

celest dome
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The Order don't really mix together

orchid lark
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I almost said Ordo Necros but we dont know the fuck they do

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The orders dont mix well, they mix worst when Inquisitors of different philosophies are added

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Puritans and Radicals

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Hell certain Puritans dont like certain other Puritans

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Grendyl does strike me as a Puritan

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Probably the bog standard Amalanthian

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Seeing as Ogryns and Psykers are being used

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What we need are some good old Seculous Attendous Inquisitors to really tear shit up

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Every institution is flawed and requires heavy fixing

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No waits the Recongregationism

celest dome
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Those are Cabals, they aren't really unique/exclusive to one ordo or another

orchid lark
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You mean the radical beliefs?

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Its a philosophy of thought

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It can be an individual to a conclave

celest dome
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The different belief, puritan and radiacal have a few different ones

orchid lark
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Yeah minor forms of the schools of thought within the two separations

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Its not tied to a singular cabal

celest dome
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Cabal are informal group of Inquisitor and analogue that work together, usually becuse they are of the same belief

orchid lark
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No

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Cabals are varied

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Typically

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Dark Heresy points this out specifically

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I hate ssing lexicanum

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A summary of page 319 of Dark Heresy rulebook

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(Assuming its still canon, but we arguably have less evidence of it being non canon)

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As Motoko Kusanagi once said

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“Overspecialize, and you breed a weakness.”

upbeat dagger
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ive been meaning to run dark heresy but the rules bring me pain

orchid lark
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Yeah the old books were ug

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Uh not ideal for most things

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The Rogue Trader stuff kinda holds up

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And is more fun

green loom
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Waiting for Owlcat to adapt it to cRPG form thumbsup_ogryn

orchid lark
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Ive played it and its enjoyable

upbeat dagger
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DH2e is painfully complex with no resources to make it easier

orchid lark
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The tabletop

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Not the game

green loom
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I know, I'm saying I'm waiting for them to do a Dark Heresy one

orchid lark
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Isnt there already an Inquisitor crpg?

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Kinda the same

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Martyr right?

celest dome
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Different

green loom
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That's a diablo clone

upbeat dagger
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i've had an idea in mind for a while now of a party working for a rogue trader who's a massively powerful psyker (basically he's too useful to get rid off but too dangerous to keep around so he's a rogue trader) with the caveat of he has to have an inquisitor breathing down his neck at all times

orchid lark
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Or interregator

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Or just a space marine company

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(Thats a thing and possible.)

coarse pumice
upbeat dagger
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i was planning on using dark heresy kinda flavoured like rogue trader, except the party is actually working for the inquisitor (unless they choose to betray her and work behind her back with the trader)

upbeat dagger
green loom
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You're dealing with a rogue trader who's a massively powerful psyker
That has no way of going wrong whatsoever and is totally trustworthy

upbeat dagger
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was planning on having the trader be like, bombastic and waay overly friendly, but also super manipulative

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with his end goal being to dispose of his assigned inquisitor quietly and vanish before the imperium takes notice

green loom
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This will in no way shape or form backfire

upbeat dagger
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sort of mission of the week based working for both Gideon (psyker) and Gloria (inquisitor), having to slowly over time pick a side

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like if anyone here's played destiny imagine Calus as a psyker

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completely lore-breaking? probably

orchid lark
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what if they fall in love

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because thatll be nice too

green loom
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The only lore breaking part is that "very powerful psyker" and "human" usually result in "batshit insane"

upbeat dagger
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sadly i tried to learn DH2e and gave up after like 3 days

green loom
green loom
upbeat dagger
#

by the time of the campaign gideon and gloria have actually already been together, but somethings caused them to split

orchid lark
#

if abnett could make a psyker inquisitor love a blank

#

anything is possible

upbeat dagger
#

and they had a kid together, who's now like 12
except uh
the kid's a blank

orchid lark
#

cant believe they both hate the kid

upbeat dagger
#

gloria loves the child

orchid lark
#

no wait

#

thats just like me

upbeat dagger
#

gideon hates it

orchid lark
#

a relatable character

green loom
#

"loving" a blank is certainly a character trait

upbeat dagger
#

i mean, the blank's still her kid blank or not

orchid lark
green loom
#

Jurgen, a relatively weak blank, is reviled by all around him

orchid lark
#

are we talking like Null, or Blank Blank

green loom
#

Except Cain

orchid lark
#

and Vail

upbeat dagger
orchid lark
#

but Vail saw a useful asset and friend

orchid lark
upbeat dagger
#

im talking like makes a psyker want to implode blank

green loom
#

Doesn't stop at Psykers either

upbeat dagger
#

i know psykers are particularly vulnerable to it

green loom
#

This one time they sent a Culexus to deal with Aunva or whoever the Tau pope was

#

And the other Tau near the assassin began clawing their eyes out

upbeat dagger
#

Culuxes are also trained to draw out the blank gene to an extreme degree

green loom
#

Strong blanks are difficult to find because their parents usually neglect, throw them out, or straight up kill them

upbeat dagger
#

kid wouldn't be a strong blank most likely

green loom
#

Doesn't matter, if theyre naturally that bad it'll make everyone around them feel it

orchid lark
#

a Null

#

just constant headaches and pain

celest dome
orchid lark
#

blanks have negative traits that are probably exagerrated

#

our mind finds something bad and exagerrates it

coarse pumice
#

Priestley confirms blanks shouldn’t have been added to the setting

celest dome
#

Null are just the highest echelon of Blank/Pariah
Usually they become Sister of Silence or the Blank Assassin

upbeat dagger
#

also gloria being ordo mallius would likely find having a blank on board super useful considering she's afraid gideon's gonna undergo evolution into a daemon or warp storm at any given moment

orchid lark
#

you heard it here folks

#

blanks are not canon

coarse pumice
#

From the creator of 40k itself

upbeat dagger
#

give me my little pocket of hope

celest dome
green loom
#

As an inquisitor she's probably uniquely placed to be aware of blanks so maybe that'd negate it

coarse pumice
#

Doesn’t in some book, a blank get ‘burned out’ and become normal?

celest dome
#

I remember a Psyker having such happen, but not about Blank

upbeat dagger
#

also i remember having a whole little crew lined out for the ebony pillar (gideon's ship)

coarse pumice
#

If there is, it’s actually not being ‘soulless’ but just a weird phenomena, like a powerful organic null field

orchid lark
#

soulless is just the term associated

#

because souls are "psychic energy"

orchid thicket
#

damn ghosts

coarse pumice
#

It’s also the real ‘consciousness’ which is why you can get tortured in the warp

orchid lark
#

insert ppart from Outcast Dead where the Librarian gazed upon the two Thunder Warriors

#

burned brighter than astartes souls

upbeat dagger
#

i don't know how on holy terra those two could've met without killing each other but the concept was funny enough to me that i'll figure out a way

celest dome
orchid lark
#

holy terra

#

what

upbeat dagger
#

not physically on terra

orchid lark
coarse pumice
#

And don’t soul ripping weapons also leave the bodies basically inert (so being actually soulless is like being a piece of wood)

upbeat dagger
#

im coming up with warhammer themed swears see

orchid lark
#

thats how i see it

#

they just say Terra

coarse pumice
orchid lark
#

good heavens

celest dome
upbeat dagger
orchid lark
orchid lark
upbeat dagger
#

tho thats preachers and preachers are weird

odd palm
#

Throne! Seems to be a stand in for damn

celest dome
#

Kark for Fuck

orchid lark
#

1 and 0 are equal opposites, 1 and -1 are opposite equals

#

or was it the other way around...

#

theres dead and alive, and theres dead and undead

upbeat dagger
#

love me sparking all this conversation about blanks and nobody's questioning me mentioning a powerful psyker having a blank kid

orchid lark
#

if the emperor can have bunch of kids of varying psychic levels, its fine

orchid thicket
#

Sometimes people just get mutations man

upbeat dagger
#

fair enough

celest dome
upbeat dagger
#

figured that psyker/blank gene might he genetic

orchid lark
#

primarchs, dont know if the sensei stuff is still a go ahead

celest dome
#

Some are linked to genetic work from Necron, but for most we don't know, like with the Psyker too

upbeat dagger
#

also now im curious totally off topic but what primarchs can still possibly return?

orchid lark
#

all of them

#

cept horus

celest dome
orchid lark
#

youu tell him that

upbeat dagger
#

afaik aren't vulkan, corvus, leman, kahn, and maaaaaaaybe ferrus manus the only remaining living primarchs that aren't already back

celest dome
orchid lark
#

i dont want to talk about how the primarchs were a reminder of the emperors core humanity again

upbeat dagger
orchid lark
#

no

odd palm
#

Up in the air

orchid lark
#

only his hand

#

Dorn literally lost a hand and dissapeared

upbeat dagger
orchid lark
#

not rumours

odd palm
#

Still not Manus tho

orchid lark
#

that was horus heresy story

#

bunch of angry iron hands destroyed it

celest dome
upbeat dagger
#

wiki says found skeleton

upbeat dagger
#

wiki says odd things then

odd palm
orchid lark
#

Was Vulkan who did it?

odd palm
orchid lark
#

i know someone smashed it because they were insulted

odd palm
#

Vulkan

orchid lark
#

you right

upbeat dagger
#

wiki says there's rumours of admech trying to revive ferrus manus that both admech and iron hands vehemently deny

orchid lark
#

Fulgrim had the cloning tech that Bile made for him to constantly make Manus clones

#

so Fulgrim can have a moment where he succeeded in getting manus to join the chaos side

#

cept Manus even when cloned still said no

upbeat dagger
#

lmfao

orchid lark
#

turns out if you make a decently good copy of a good person

#

theyll still be a good person

upbeat dagger
#

also shoutout to the random imperial fist that saw horus in the battlefield and went "fuck it we ball"

odd palm
#

Oh the age of darkness trailer?

orchid lark
#

i mean shoutout to the Iron Hands who almost succeeded in assassinating horus a bunch

odd palm
#

Meduson?

orchid lark
#

yeah

#

True to form Badass

odd palm
#

I think he made.....two attempts?
Maybe only one

green loom
orchid lark
#

the remnants of what was left had a lot of attempts

#

only a few were close

green loom
#

I think Vulkan smashed it

upbeat dagger
#

imagine having that conversation
"Ah, brother chadicus, where have you been?! we were looking for you!"
"war's over"
"i... what? brother chad what do you mean?"
"i killed horus. his body's right there"
"WHAT"

green loom
#

They nearly got the entirety of the traitors' high command once

#

The Shattered Legions were some tough bastards

orchid lark
#

Meduson and his Shattered Legion are the best shit from horus heresy

#

even if we lose, win

green loom
#

Then you had guys like uhh

odd palm
#

I mean the """""revived"""" Ferrus during the HH was little more than cogs and machinery with their fathers hands and a cloak covering it all

green loom
#

Autek Mór?

orchid lark
#

Mor was cool too

odd palm
#

Autek Moon you mean?

#

Based

upbeat dagger
#

if corvus comes back i will straight up buy a ravenguard army

orchid lark
#

Red Talons answer to the Moirae schism?

#

kill the moirae believers

green loom
#

The fkn

#

Tech zombies

orchid lark
#

Mor's influence to the end

upbeat dagger
#

didn't corvus corax turn into a warp demon after playing WARP Eternal for like 8000 years

orchid lark
#

he understood his lineage and origins

#

he unlocked his true potential as I see it

odd palm
#

He's been hunting for a minute

green loom
#

Less, he was a creepy bird monster during the scouring already

#

Iirc that's when the Lorgar fight happens

odd palm
#

Hmmm, I thought that was later

upbeat dagger
#

love my man/creepy bird monster corvus

orchid lark
#

having wings is the natural evolution of all primarchs

#

wings and humanity is connected

#

i feels it

upbeat dagger
#

hoping he's next cuz i'd buy his mini in a heartbeat

orchid lark
#

next primarch would be chaos again i feel

upbeat dagger
#

never bought a mini before

orchid lark
#

gotta get the big four out first

upbeat dagger
#

would fucken preorder corvus

odd palm
#

If it's based on popularity?
Leman
Though Corvus and Jaghatai are better plausible contenders

orchid lark
#

Leman popular

#

what

upbeat dagger
#

didn't leman straight up dive into the eye of terror

odd palm
#

More so than Jag and Corvus

upbeat dagger
#

like full freebird

orchid lark
#

he was sick of life

odd palm
#

Magnus threw a bone into a warp rift I guess

orchid lark
#

poor guy

odd palm
#

He went chasing it

upbeat dagger
#

vulkan also probably could come back, he's a perpetual

#

mf cant be dead

orchid lark
#

all primarchs are "perpetual" Vulkan is Perpetual Perpetual

odd palm
#

There's to much......uncertainty surrounding him tbh

hallow saddle
#

Fulgrim comes back in 10th

hallow saddle
#

prediction

odd palm
#

No only Vulkan is a perpetual

hallow saddle
#

Then Russ

orchid lark
#

something something Primarchs are semi perpetual because of how they were made or someshit

hallow saddle
#

Russ is gonna come back I think!!

upbeat dagger
#

id also be happy to have russ baxk

odd palm
#

There is a difference between perpetual and effectively, physically immortal

orchid lark
#

Space Marines and Primarchs are Lobsters

hallow saddle
#

The other primarchs aren't perpetuals lol, how many of them are dead?

odd palm
orchid lark
#

Sanguinius is technically in a stasis coffin

hallow saddle
#

Like at least 4 + the redacted ones

odd palm
#

Manus, Curze, Sanguinius and Horus

#

The two lost? Who knows

orchid lark
#

they wanted to maintain Sanguinius immortal beauty

upbeat dagger
#

also am i correct that a solid description of big e's current predicament is "he's not on the brink of death, he's dangling over death being held in place by a single thread"

hallow saddle
#

yeah

#

And the throne is definitely failing too

#

It's all mechanicus duct tape down there

odd palm
#

Has been for....millennia. The last few centuries seem to have been in the fast lane

celest dome
upbeat dagger
#

what happens if the throne fails

#

isnt terra gonna get nuked

hallow saddle
#

Yeah

orchid lark
#

maybe

#

we dont really know

hallow saddle
#

The warp overtakes terra

orchid lark
#

the lighthouse just goes dark seems to be the only thing we know for sure

hallow saddle
#

It's all fucked!

odd palm
#

I mean Custodes and the High Lords were so desperate they almost gave the Drukhari Big E dna without even really knowing it

upbeat dagger
#

i mean either the warp rift or the talisman is gonna obliterate terra

#

my hope is for the warprift to open just in time for the full holy force of the talisman of seven hammers to drop right on khorne's ugly face

hallow saddle
#

The long secret game is to charge the emperor up to super Saiyan warp god levels through worship then let him die...but if it happens before he's ready it's all gonna go wrong....

odd palm
#

Bruh Drukhari were the closest they've even been to being able to make their own Big E

upbeat dagger
#

he's starting to ascend isn't he?

orchid lark
#

dont know

celest dome
upbeat dagger
#

didnt he fucken torch nurgle's garden recently

orchid lark
#

he's ascended something

#

he did yes

#

to save guiliman

odd palm
#

Yeah, but the garden shall bounce back

orchid lark
#

he resurrected Guilliman at the same time too

#

theres some crazy shit with his powers

odd palm
#

He resurrected Jaghatai too

orchid lark
#

yeah

odd palm
#

Before being on the big toilet

#

forever

orchid lark
#

Turkish Magic Conan the Lighthouse does many things

#

we can all agree on that

upbeat dagger
#

also something about a little girl somehow allowing space marines to survive nurgle's worst poisons

odd palm
#

Indeed

hallow saddle
#

He has to be insanely powerful to take on all 4 gods

orchid lark
#

wait what

#

little girls

upbeat dagger
#

didnt he posess a child

orchid lark
#

a living saint thing?

odd palm
#

Do you mean an eldar god or an actual child?

upbeat dagger
#

lemme check

#

i forget the actual excerpt but i remember someone being able to fight off nurgle's worst toxins and it being described as a radiant holy light

odd palm
#

Hmm

storm jungle
#

Its probably just a saint in a random book

celest dome
#

Doesn't Saint Sabath possess/reincarnate as a little kid at some point ?

orchid lark
#

she did yes

#

that was a crucial part of the Sabbat storylines

#

miss you Slaydo

storm jungle
#

I will continue to forever hate his name

#

Dora the Explorer ass name

orchid lark
#

we're just normal men

odd palm
#

Slaydo?

storm jungle
#

Adrian Smith art my beloved

orchid lark
#

thats Warmaster Slaydo to you punk

odd palm
#

True, he really is a warmaster, mfer dead as hell

storm jungle
#

he Master'd some War's thats for sure

odd palm
#

True

celest dome
storm jungle
#

No Sabath is a badass name

#

i meant SLAYDO

orchid lark
#

Sabbat is the Sector

odd palm
upbeat dagger
#

just saw a fucked theory

odd palm
#

Oh boy

celest dome
#

Good, I love Saint Sabbat

storm jungle
#

the Sabbat are my favorite faction in Vampire the Masquerade so i agree

orchid lark
storm jungle
#

Im lying they suck

upbeat dagger
#

the lighthouse is the emperor's soul slowly burning away, like a candle instead of a supernova. The golden throne and the psychic choir steady it and keep it from going nova

storm jungle
#

thats the literal lore

upbeat dagger
#

oh is that it?

storm jungle
#

but the Emperor is doing 90% of the hard work

#

the 10% are all the choirs/battery-people psykers

upbeat dagger
#

what i mean is it's essentially the emperor dying, but instead of the warp-nuke it should be its just a candle

storm jungle
#

Oh no it is a warp nuke. The moment he dies Terra will explode.

#

and all FTL travel for humanity will be gone

upbeat dagger
#

thats not what im saying

orchid lark
#

long distance ftl travel

#

jumps can be done

#

dangeously

#

but you can do it

storm jungle
#

if you got the spirit i agree

#

literally

orchid lark
#

We're burnign through the navigators

upbeat dagger
#

im saying the lighthouse is him dying. the slow burn of his soul fading away and reconstituting back into his golden hell

orchid lark
#

whats next captain

upbeat dagger
#

also when big e dies is the new eye of terror
A: the emperor's psychic scream
B: the warp-rift bouncing back after millenia of being held shut
or C: both

#

cuz as far as i can tell from the fall of cadia warp rifts REALLY dont like being held shut or supressed

storm jungle
#

We dont really know if a rift will open or not

#

only that Terra is gonna go kaboom

orchid lark
#

maybe an opposite rift

odd palm
#

Hang on

#

Why not

storm jungle
#

as long as more Imperials die im alright

odd palm
orchid lark
#

Emperor dies and its just Age of Sigmar

#

hold up

storm jungle
#

LOL

#

id like that tbh

odd palm
#

Setup necron pylons on terra

#

Just in case

orchid lark
#

they are studying the pylons

celest dome
upbeat dagger
#

tbf i feel loke the necrons could be a huge ally to us

orchid lark
#

cadia wasnt the only planet with pylons

storm jungle
#

Necrons dont care about humanity

odd palm
#

There are hundreds if not thousands with 'em

storm jungle
#

they are racist like us

upbeat dagger
#

ah

orchid lark
#

Necron Phaerons and Phaerakhs have a workable mind

#

the rest dont

storm jungle
#

Yeah its more that like

celest dome
storm jungle
#

why would you help someone who wants you dead

#

also to erase your entire existence because uh

#

some religious book said so

orchid lark
#

We help you and you give us bodies and flesh yes?

odd palm
#

I say we teach the necrons a lesson and chuck flayed ones at their tomb worlds

#

That'll learn 'em

upbeat dagger
#

i do feel like 40k is heading towards some sort of end times

orchid lark
#

nah its the beginning

#

its only just begun

odd palm
#

Tbf people have been saying that for a looong time

storm jungle
#

40k will basically only get nuked if its not making money

#

a reboot is hard to tell but might happen at some point

orchid lark
#

40k 2

odd palm
#

Nah just skip to 50k

upbeat dagger
#

we have 2 primarchs back, big e is set to die out within a century, rifts tearing the galaxy apart

orchid lark
#

also the silliness of 40k is just good

storm jungle
#

theres no stakes

#

the Imperium usually always wins and defeats the other faction

orchid lark
#

no steaks?

storm jungle
#

aka chaos

orchid lark
#

whats for dinner then

upbeat dagger
#

isn't shit so bad that the grey knights are actually considering the terminus decree

green loom
storm jungle
#

these are random plot points

upbeat dagger
storm jungle
#

that will never get brought up again

odd palm
#

The Imperium has for essentially it's entire existence from the HH onwards has been a couple minutes from midnight and midnight being it's destruction

green loom
#

I've never had steak megachingryn

orchid lark
#

Terminus Decree be like lol lmao look behind you

storm jungle
orchid lark
#

and its just Rogal

upbeat dagger
#

rogal?

green loom
#

Mogal

storm jungle
#

Bogal

orchid lark
#

Rogal Dank, Master of the Imperial Sheesh

#

Rizzgal Dank

celest dome
#

Bocka

upbeat dagger
#

also my theory is that the terminus decree is a method of wiring up the talisman and the golden throne to the webway gate

#

let big e die and have his psychic scream just shred the warp as a last ditch effort

orchid lark
#

The Terminus Decree is just "Go ask your grandma Erda for help"

green loom
#

The Sheesh kebab

#

I could go for some kebab rn

upbeat dagger
#

who knows

orchid lark
#

Emperor be like you shouldve it when the fucking Nova Terra Interregum fucking happened you morons

green loom
#

It's confirmed what the terminus decree is in the new vook

upbeat dagger
#

is it?

celest dome
upbeat dagger
#

also speaking of how'd lion get ressed

orchid lark
#

he literally just woke up

odd palm
upbeat dagger
#

ah

orchid lark
#

we had this discussion

#

he made his own fantasia

#

because he's a big fan of the Neverending Story

upbeat dagger
#

cant he teleport to like any forest

orchid lark
#

you know sharkboy and lavagirl

#

there

#

thats the Lion waking up

odd palm
#

Now why he woke up and what he's been doing since he woke up until the book kicks off?
Who knows

orchid lark
#

the forest is the nexus point

#

Mirror Caliban is the Fantasia

#

as long as he feels it

#

he can appear from anywhere via the forest

#

its like Chalkzone

storm jungle
#

I do love how the Lion had like what 2 books prepped for his return a few years in prior

#

meanwhile xenos still get shit

#

*god kill me

odd palm
#

Hang on

orchid lark
#

The Lion is Rudy from Chalkzone

#

there

odd palm
#

C'mon Dilara. This Tyrannic War will be impactful I swear.
Please believe me, the Tyranids are a threat!

upbeat dagger
#

imagine your just a random imperial guard on patrol and fucking lion'el johnson walks out of the forest

storm jungle
#

"Holy shit, its a space marine but bigger!"

orchid lark
#

"ive seen stained glass windows of him"

storm jungle
#

Lmao

upbeat dagger
#

also is alpharius dead?

storm jungle
#

Omegon is

#

Alpharius is alive

orchid lark
#

I thought Alpharius died, and Omegon is Alpharius now

storm jungle
#

Nah the other way around

upbeat dagger
#

on one hand ive heard he's dead but on the other hand hasn't he been reported as being killed by like 3 different primarchs

storm jungle
#

since Omegon was the more reasonable one

#

so he uh

#

you know

#

got shanked

odd palm
#

Also I legitimately thought GW just skipped from 1 to 4
The other two Tyrannic Wars were real everyone, they happened and did something lasting to the imperium

orchid lark
#

got personally kissed by Rogals Chainsword

storm jungle
#

Lmao yeah thats another thing

#

the tyrannic wars were literally just a few pages in the nid codex

odd palm
#

Baal was the third War

storm jungle
#

they werent massive campaigns like what we get these days

orchid lark
#

oh no Ultramar was attacked

#

but now is okay

odd palm
storm jungle
#

yep

#

literally instantly recovered

#

lol

orchid lark
#

Baal got instantly recovered too

odd palm
#

And the third war got overshadowed by Khorne

storm jungle
#

Nowadays you get a Warzone book and shit

odd palm
#

Lmao

orchid lark
#

We made Baal Primus beautiful again

storm jungle
#

good job nids, you are the most gardeners of all time

orchid lark
#

oh no the Tau are fighting the nids

#

huh

odd palm
#

And the second war was uhhh.....checks

orchid lark
#

wheres the lore for it

#

fuck you thats where

odd palm
#

Sotha getting nommed. Pharos world ded

storm jungle
#

the tyrannic wars are INCREDIBLY handwavy

odd palm
#

That's an understatement XD

storm jungle
#

lmao true

orchid lark
#

Literally every space marine got more out of the war than lost anything

storm jungle
#

that too

#

like literally nothing happened

#

"thousands of world were consumed"

#

waow what a loss

odd palm
#

The only Tyrannic war that anyone remembers is the first one, unless you're a nid fan

storm jungle
#

Yeah this

orchid lark
#

alright admech get the big farming tractors again

scenic bolt
#

nother instance of 40k moving the plot by spinning the wheels in place

orchid lark
#

hell the Tyranid Invasion in Dawn of War 2 was also like a foot note lmao

storm jungle
#

oh yeah that happened

orchid lark
#

Blood Ravens had more trouble dealin with chaos than the bugs

#

Tyranids aint shit

storm jungle
#

i will say at least DoW2 presented it really well

#

otherwise yeah

odd palm
#

Lmao

orchid lark
#

Every tyranid fights with space marine be like

odd palm
#

True

orchid lark
#

"alright whoever was in the deathwatch make a team and get some venom, we will make a poison for them."

#

"Librarians start stand fighting"

#

then Imperium won

#

wahhoo

#

mission accomplished lets go home boys

odd palm
#

But trust me gamers, the 4th Tyrannic Wars is going to be a big deal. Guilliman said so.
Now I swear it won't be overshadowed and instantly forgotten because chaos is fighting the Lion

#

Trust me it won't happen

orchid lark
#

fucking Cyrus even went, the tyranids are easier to fight lmao than the Necrons

storm jungle
#

Let me give another example

#

all these marines should be dead

odd palm
#

XD

storm jungle
#

but the scarabs just fly past them

#

lmao

odd palm
#

YES

orchid lark
#

"Attack the monolith!!"

storm jungle
#

LMAO

#

to be fair

#

at least in that cinematic they get butchered

#

because 10 IQ strat

orchid lark
#

I like when they dramatize Space Marines as running head long like idiots

#

whilst in books space marines use fucking tier 1 tactics

odd palm
#

Mfw the Tyranids are just gonna be the Necron """""""threat"""""""" all over again

storm jungle
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they did it in DoW1 intro too

orchid lark
storm jungle
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also wow bad bot

odd palm
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XD

orchid lark
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damn bots

odd palm
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Necrons trying to fight back irl

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Smh

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Still getting swatted away

odd palm
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Oh god

storm jungle
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a true hero

orchid lark
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love my American space Marines

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I keep forgetting that Blood Ravens have just

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American Accents

odd palm
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Huh

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No wonder no one likes them

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All makes sense now

orchid lark
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more british accents

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"THE POWER OF THE MONADO"

odd palm
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I'll just take accents

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Spice it up

storm jungle
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No bri'ish???

odd palm
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Gib kiwi marines

orchid lark
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what about Welsh Catgirls?

storm jungle
odd palm
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Bruh

orchid lark
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if we have Kiwi accents

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americans will think its british