ah shit
#40k-lore-chat
crystal forum
crystal forum
a bunch of horus heresy
orchid lark
Youre the one to talk
orchid lark
Nothing 40k?
crystal forum
like 4 books of the gaunts ghosts
crystal forum
some other random books that have no say in the main lore
storm jungle
and ghosted all over the Bloodpact
rose thorn
I wouldn’t curse my greatest enemies with starting 40k with soul drinkers
crystal forum
gaunts ghosts have such main character syndromes
orchid lark
Prove it
crystal forum
liberates entire chaos planet
not a single death
rose thorn
Of an entire regiment
orchid lark
Ciaphas Cain is kinda uh
rose thorn
Of like, 12 guys and a mild annoyance
orchid lark
Main character in his stories
rose thorn
liberates entire chaos planet
not a single death
Ok I agree with you that’s dumb, but it happens a lot in imperium books
orchid lark
I love reading books where the main characters dies halfway through
crystal forum
yeah but gaunts ghosts are unaugmented humans lol
orchid lark
what the hell is this, Looking For Alaska?
rose thorn
Read assassinorum king maker if you can
orchid lark
or Bridge To Teribithia
celest dome
Take the lore books as in setting propaganda
rose thorn
It’s my favorite imperium book
signal bramble
or Bridge To Teribithia
crystal forum
it depends on the writer, the importance of the characters to main lore and how much GW wants to sell models
crimson kayak
yeah but gaunts ghosts are unaugmented humans lol
Meanwhile catachans doing this any Thursday
crystal forum
nah the shit gaunt's ghosts pulls off is like an entire regiment of sly marbos
signal bramble
*Meanwhile catachans doing this any Thursday*
Catachans aren’t normal humans.
It’s an army of 90’s action heroes.
Who Naruto run.
orchid lark
theyre Expendables
crystal forum
Arnold genetic strain
orchid lark
just because it isnt pride month, you cant just say stuff like that Dilara
storm jungle
Schwarzenegger.
Awful
tho i say this
i got a catachan OC
with a cut off face
so im a hypocrite
crystal forum
that's fucking metal
signal bramble
The catachans Naruto run. They could never be Gary Stu.
It’s way too lame a thing to do.
orchid lark
nah its faster
storm jungle
that's fucking metal
he basically had a parasite attach to his face and he cut his own face off before larvae could be put in his brain
Its dumb as shit but i was like half-drunk when i came up with it watching Aliens
orchid lark
sounds Catachan
rose thorn
Wasn’t there some writer’s oc chapter that wiped out an entire craft world?
storm jungle
god
crisp heath
Gaunt's Ghosts was my first 40k book, like it was for many, and I'll never forget my first exposure to chaos being a giant cartoon demon yeeting a silly little man quickly followed by a chaos space marine getting one shotted by random guardsman #2492
crimson kayak
The invaders
orchid lark
yeah them
orchid lark
thats actually sizeable
crimson kayak
Strength: A dozen marines
rose thorn
Oh yeah didn’t grey knights let them live for literally zero reason
orchid lark
let 12 live, and mind wiped them
crystal forum
i wonder how big a book store would be if it sold every single 40k book
crisp heath
Here's the lore for my Guy: he's 12 foot tall and evil and he's responsible for 4,890,076,327,009 deaths and he likes to destroy planets and he likes to stomp around in the blood
crimson kayak
let 12 live, and mind wiped them
"let 12 live" they were literally the only remaining ones alive lol
rose thorn
let 12 live, and mind wiped them
I’d love to see the grey knights just chop them up and fuel their runes
orchid lark
at some point they got better
rose thorn
Yeah
storm jungle
if it wasnt written on codexes everyone would call it mary sue writing
orchid lark
the invaders i mean
crystal forum
Grey Knight lore is like the most mary sue shit ever
that one guy in the warp who's killing literally everything
storm jungle
"THEY ARE THE 666TH CHAPTER"
crimson kayak
Anyhow yeah basically the only cool thing the invaders did was attacking a minor Craftworld, losing half their forces and then getting shitted on by the rest of the galaxy
orchid lark
Grey Knights getting the biggest blue balls yet
storm jungle
"THEIR RECRUITS GO THROUGL 666 TRIALS"
orchid lark
no new shit for them
celest dome
if it wasnt written on codexes everyone would call it mary sue writing
Don't many people consider the GK and Caldor Draigo to be the biggest Gary Stue ?
crystal forum
"THEIR RECRUITS GO THROUGL 666 TRIALS"
"this isn't your mom's space marine chapter"
storm jungle
Don't many people consider the GK and Caldor Draigo to be the biggest Gary Stue ...
Theres people that think they are cool so beats me
rose thorn
At least the lore isn’t as circle jerky as custodies
orchid lark
Custodians are literally the most mary sue shit
crimson kayak
Theres people that think they are cool so beats me
I like the looks personally
Never cared of their lore
orchid lark
if they were so good, whyd they still die fighting orks back in the day
rose thorn
There’s this chapter I fucking hate I forgot what it’s called
But like
They are super edge lords
crystal forum
see that's why i don't want custodies getting lore
crystal forum
by definition they're made to be mary sues
orchid lark
Knights of Blood
rose thorn
And only recruit children who’s parents were uh
crimson kayak
They are super edge lords
What kind of edge?
rose thorn
I think it was either the mother died during birth
orchid lark
the fuck how would the marines know that
green loom
Iron Snakes?
pale onyx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKlKUr7HUeY I want a book about this, obviously the death korps aren't as extreme as everyone memes them to be but seeing something like this in a book would be amazing
orchid lark
whats this Krieg shit
rose thorn
FORES AGAISNT THEIR WILL there we go
crimson kayak
Oh shit now I want to make a chapter who only recluits on backward planets by posing as big bads attacking villages and leaving only one alive
rose thorn
Forced agaisnt their will to bear a child
And they have a bunch of slaves for siad purpose
orchid lark
what the hell
rose thorn
It’s really gross and weird
orchid lark
Marines Malevolent?
rose thorn
Let me pull up the name
green loom
No Marines Malevolent are violent pragmatists
coarse pumice
what about the 888th chapter?
crystal forum
Oh shit now I want to make a chapter who only recluits on backward planets by po...
making sure every marine has a sad backstory so they all have plot armour 
vale shuttle
yeah you are
orchid lark
what about the 888th chapter?
Chinas favourite
celest dome
No Marines Malevolent are violent pragmatists
Violents dick, more like
vale shuttle
the imperium uses slaves on the reg
crimson kayak
what about the 888th chapter?
I mean they are just marine beta testers what do you have against them?
vale shuttle
if you don't use slaves it's seen as gauche and a flaunting of wealth
pale onyx
the imperium uses slaves on the reg
TRUE but it's for the holy god emperor so its okay
vale shuttle
like "ooohhh la laa you pay your workers"
rose thorn
DEATH SPECTERS
crystal forum
remember bros it's not human rights abuses if you say "for the emperor"
pale onyx
yes
rose thorn
Fucking hate the death specters
pale onyx
all those traitors joining the TAU empire for human rights are filth and just as bad as chaos cultists
vale shuttle
those gosh darn traitors joining the tau empire!! dont they want to live in filth and pain and squalor
pale onyx
love the line of the zealot preacher saying how she is envious of those who live in the slums because they only rely on the emperors givings
crystal forum
how dare they not eat processed corpses and be happy
green loom
storm jungle
love the line of the zealot preacher saying how she is envious of those who live...
that line made me delete my zealot and go for Judge ngl
POOR PEOPLE ARE AT FAULT
RICH PEOPLE ARE GREAT
yeah no
green loom
I like Kratos Zealot
storm jungle
Kratos Zealot is intense
vale shuttle
love the line of the zealot preacher saying how she is envious of those who live...
i just got out of a mission where the zealot was like "ahhh these workers have made their habs in their factory, what faith and duty i am in awe"
pale onyx
that line made me delete my zealot and go for Judge ngl
I still stick with preacher for that reason. Really gets me in the mood to server the emperor
storm jungle
WEEETCH OUT KINDRED
vale shuttle
POOR PEOPLE ARE AT FAULT
||average american be like||
storm jungle
Y O N B AR R E L
pale onyx
Also, lore question about the game
orchid lark
Lore
crystal forum
hustler zealot
vale shuttle
this game has lore?
green loom
The irish one is the one that talks about abhumans not having souls right
pale onyx
There's a freak peronality that keeps insulting the holy religion of the emperor. Why don't we just shoot her on sight for it
orchid lark
if youre gonna ask what planet we're on
pale onyx
like once okay
storm jungle
There's a freak peronality that keeps insulting the holy religion of the emperor...
Because hes more useful than half the team
green loom
There's a freak peronality that keeps insulting the holy religion of the emperor...
Like most of the other personalities, she's useful
queen laurel
There's a freak peronality that keeps insulting the holy religion of the emperor...
Meat shield supply is low
queen laurel
Don't want to waste them now do we
pale onyx
Because hes more useful than half the team
yes but they are a freak and not to be trusted
rose thorn
Yeah it’s the death specters s
orchid lark
says who
storm jungle
yes but they are a freak and not to be trusted
says who
crystal forum
this game has lore?
- you're trash
- you're less trash because you're not dead
- there's a chao agent
- the chaos agent has been killed
entire lore spoiled
storm jungle
the Emperor is a psyker too
green loom
Most of our characters were basically due execution before we got lucky
pale onyx
the Emperor is a psyker too
he's a god
storm jungle
everyone in the god emperors religion.
the Emperor was a psyker
orchid lark
this guy thinking he has more authority than Morrow
storm jungle
he's a god
and he didnt want religion
orchid lark
send him to the butchers block boys
storm jungle
Turn this frog into my DINNER
green loom
Turn this frog into my DINNER
Now now, we don't want to be French now do we?
crystal forum
Most of our characters were basically due execution before we got lucky
until we all conveniently got saved by the same lady
pale onyx
and he didnt want religion
okay like memeing aside I think the emperor is actually okay with this religion now. Because he is getting god like powers from all this.
storm jungle
I mean yeah its like the actual catholic church
all the money
all the worshippers
I MEAN-
pale onyx
he is literally the only thing keeping humanity together
storm jungle
queen laurel
okay like memeing aside I think the emperor is actually okay with this religion ...
My brother in christ he is a sitting corpse and he just wants to die
orchid lark
the emperor has no choice but to get used to it
vale shuttle
i mean we can't ask the emperor his opinion he's too busy being a giant lamp
pale onyx
My brother in christ he is a sitting corpse and he just wants to die
clearly doesnt want to die since if he dies humanity is fucked
orchid lark
he cant die, because he doesnt know how to die
green loom
HUmanity is already fucked
queen laurel
clearly doesnt want to die since if he dies humanity is fucked
With the state of humanity
green loom
It was fucked before he got fragged
vale shuttle
humanity was past its expiration date in M30
queen laurel
Honestly fair trade
pale onyx
cap, the indominus crusade and the lion returning, humanity is making a comback
vale shuttle
humanity should've been done and dusted after the long night. great try, time to fade away, it's over. everyuthing ends
orchid lark
yeah the non human humans are leading us to greatness
vale shuttle
but then the emperor was like "NO WAIT THIS IS MY CHANCE" and decided to go full golden fash god
green loom
The Indomitus Crusade is doing it's most to keep the entire stack of cards from falling over, it's not a glorious reconquest
pale onyx
wow a bunch of chaos and xenos loving heretics here
orchid lark
literally a dune plot point
pale onyx
BUT TO BE FAIR
crystal forum
yeah the non human humans are leading us to greatness
once again humanity being lead by their own creations instead of themselves
pale onyx
I am a loyalist fan, nothing can tempt me astray from serving the emperor and collecting his armies. GW releases plague toad models I might just switch to nurgle
queen laurel
wow a bunch of chaos and xenos loving heretics here
Dude the celestial orrery is not something you want to mess with
pale onyx
Dude the celestial orrery is not something you want to mess with
idk what that is
crystal forum
until chaos gets cool vehicles im sticking to imperium
queen laurel
idk what that is
It's a holographic map of the galaxy
vale shuttle
Blow up Fenris
BLOW UP TERRA ALREADY
orchid lark
theyre already cool
pale onyx
It's a holographic map of the galaxy
why dont we wanna mess with a map of the galaxy? the galaxy literally belongs to humanity anyways
crystal forum
theyre daemon engines
they look ugly
vale shuttle
WARHAMMER 40000: THE RHANA DANDRA
queen laurel
why dont we wanna mess with a map of the galaxy? the galaxy literally belongs to...
Clicking at the hologram of a sun will explode
crystal forum
also a bunch of them are just fugly imperium vehicles
pale onyx
Clicking at the hologram of a sun will explode
oh shit
queen laurel
Example i click the sun at holy terra
orchid lark
nothing pleases this dude
crystal forum
literally just said i like imperium tanks
pale onyx
literally just said i like imperium tanks
but are u a xenos/chaos loving heretic
orchid lark
he isnt
pale onyx
based
orchid lark
he literally he is the furthest
crystal forum
i like some eldar tanks
pale onyx
cringe
queen laurel
oh shit
Here is a very quick explanation of what it does
Its representation of the galaxy is not just a model, because the Orrery is directly connected to the galaxy it represents in some unknown way. For instance, altering the Orrery's image will also physically change that same region of the galaxy in the same way.
The Orrery can be used to predict the strategic flow of coming events, or even alter them outright.
pale onyx
Here is a very quick explanation of what it does
Its representation of the gala...
who has this
vale shuttle
necrons
queen laurel
who has this
Necrons
pale onyx
why haven't they used it to dominate the galaxy
queen laurel
why haven't they used it to dominate the galaxy
It's manipulating the galaxy one wrong move and it could f*** up the entirety of existence
crystal forum
why haven't they used it to dominate the galaxy
you could say that about a lot of necron shit
pale onyx
ah okay
queen laurel
you have to maintain proper balance
storm jungle
The dynasty that has it also defends it from other necrons
because they know they are psychopaths that wanna blow every planet willy nilly
crystal forum
answer is they're petty and infight a lot
vale shuttle
the necrons are sitting on a lot of ubertech but they're all madmen
storm jungle
Nah these ones got a legit good reason
vale shuttle
youu mean complex characters and reasons?>
average 40k character be like
"grrr i hate people who aren't me"
end character
pale onyx
because they know they are psychopaths that wanna blow every planet willy nilly
yeah can't believe there are psycho paths that can actually do that in the 40k universe. Not the Imperium of man tho, they exterminatus with the most holy guidance
orchid lark
exterminatus comes in many flavours
storm jungle
No joke
crystal forum
can i get a strawberry exterminatus
orchid lark
space marines can do Exterminatus, its not holy that way
pale onyx
forever stuck between being a 100% loyalist fan and being a nurgle fan, their daemonsa re so cute. And their mortal models are alright looking
mutations are cool
pale onyx
space marines can do Exterminatus, its not holy that way
they are literally His Angels
queen laurel
forever stuck between being a 100% loyalist fan and being a nurgle fan, their da...
Looks at the prisoner of the emerald cave
Uh yeah
Definitely
pale onyx
*Looks at the prisoner of the emerald cave*
Every daemon is adorable from nurgle, the only exception is the rot fly
crystal forum
exterminatus is just part of the job description
crystal forum
soul drinker became religious and that didn't turn out well 
queen laurel
Every daemon is adorable from nurgle, the only exception is the rot fly
If so then what do you think of this guy
vale shuttle
Nurgle has some serious drip
mortarion looks so cool definitely my favourite primarch model so far
pale onyx
Space Marines are religious
some of them aren't sure, but they are loyal to the emperor and the emperor alone. They don't practise the faith but they are doing the god emperors will so their actions are holy
celest dome
Every daemon is adorable from nurgle, the only exception is the rot fly
Plaguebearers ?
Vile Savants ?
orchid lark
some?
pale onyx
If so then what do you think of this guy
what kinda fuckin daemon is this in the lore?
crystal forum
come to think of it, has there ever been a situation where religious space marines didn't cause many problems
queen laurel
what kinda fuckin daemon is this in the lore?
An overly mutated plague marine
pale onyx
Plaguebearers ?
Vile Savants ?
Plaguebearers are kinda cute
crystal forum
He got blessed way too many times
mans overblessed
pale onyx
oh yeah I remember that, he was banished to a plague planet since morty didnt want to kill something so loved by nurgle
storm jungle
he was farming those Mafia City points
pictured Lv.1 Cultist to a Lv.100 Chaos Marine
green loom
Lvl1 reject to Lvl100 Varlet
crystal forum
level 1 reject to level 30 shmuck
vale shuttle
yeah but you have to kill a lotta people to get daemon prince
pale onyx
like a couple of worlds
vale shuttle
all the while you're killing people someone else is probably planning to kill you
crystal forum
just a couple billion. nothing special
vale shuttle
and your underlings are gonna betray you because CHAOS
green loom
If someone wants to kill you that's just saving you the trouble of finding them duh
vale shuttle
it's a hard time being a chaos marine, they truly are the most oppressed minority
pale onyx
and your underlings are gonna betray you because CHAOS
lower chance if ur nurgle tho since nurgle loves all his children
storm jungle
If someone wants to kill you that's just saving you the trouble of finding them ...
Average Sigma Megatron Grindset
green loom
Look it's Megatron Griffin
vale shuttle
for a second i thought you said "Average Metatron grindset" and was so excited i could go off about the scribe of god
pale onyx
hey guys I find it really cool the salamanders retain their humanity and are about protecting human life, might be my 2nd favorite chapter actually. BUT this doesn't extend to icky xenos life alright
green loom
He collects Bretonnians and paints them in oblivion city colours
storm jungle
Actually deranged
pale onyx
based*
green loom
It's like a broken record that gets flung at you daily
But hey I haven't seen any shovel jokes for like 5 minutes so that's progress!
queen laurel
hold on lemme make a meme
All right looks like someone is about to cook
pale onyx
let him cook
crystal forum
i'll make a krieg tank that uses shovels as add on armour
pale onyx
amazing
crystal forum
"sir there seems to be a pile of shovels firing at us"
ok i now know what my first tank model will be
proceeding to print a shit ton of shovels
pale onyx
I forgot which video it was but the Kriegs get ambushed by TAU and one of the tau was like humans are so fragile and then a krieg came behind her and kept smacking her over and over with a shovel even though he knew he was gonna die like seconds after
queen laurel
I forgot which video it was but the Kriegs get ambushed by TAU and one of the ta...
It's the same faction that will bomb a City even though it surrendered 10 years ago
pale onyx
It's the same faction that will bomb a City even though it surrendered 10 years ...
gotta make sure they stay down
storm jungle
I forgot which video it was but the Kriegs get ambushed by TAU and one of the ta...
that was a trench club
pale onyx
that was a trench club
oh well still works
storm jungle
vale shuttle
i was gonna put the imperial eagle on the white flag but i only have ms paint and it was too difficult to work with
crystal forum
based ms paint user
pale onyx
Accuraate
pale onyx
y'all think we gonna fight a GUO eventually ingame? Because like lorewise it doesn't make sense we can take out so much shit so us taking out a GUO isnt too far reach. Maybe we drop a tank on it first to weaken it or something
coarse pumice
Mr Mime isn't the solitaire, who's the next entry
celest dome
y'all think we gonna fight a GUO eventually ingame? Because like lorewise it doe...
Most likely not, a Herald would already be pushing it
pale onyx
what's his stats?
coarse pumice
celest dome
Also Servitor Archetype/Class is really gonna be Darktide's Vampire Saltz and Sienna Ice Wizard
pale onyx
Most likely not, a Herald would already be pushing it
yeah but think about it, it doesnt make sense we can get rid of soooo many things with just 4 ppl. So it doesn't really matter anymore lorewise what we could handle. like a chaos space marine or something
celest dome
Everything we beat is something that isn't impossible for a team of the 4 to beat on its own, the reject have no ways of beating a GUO even if it's alone
crystal forum
maybe if we got bigger guns
celest dome
yeah but think about it, it doesnt make sense we can get rid of soooo many thing...
A CSM is in the alley of things we could beat
vale shuttle
Everything we beat is something that isn't impossible for a team of the 4 to bea...
yeah think of the team not as "four random goons" but as like, "four low-teir character-level guys."
im sure if i spent enough time digging through wahapedia i could find four datasheets that matched our characters and they could PROBABLY reasonably beat everything on the roster
storm jungle
also the veterans have fought shit like nids and orks, they say this in their voicelines
some people have the perception thinking these guys are homeless people with guns
celest dome
im sure if i spent enough time digging through wahapedia i could find four datas...
Of the current one, yes, but a GUO, id be difficult
vale shuttle
oh yeah no way we can fight a GUO
pale onyx
yeah but even trained what we're facing and how many of them there are it's still far fetched to say 4 well trained ppl ccan do that
vale shuttle
a GUO is like, what, 300 points? it's a greater daemon lmao
crystal forum
some people have the perception thinking these guys are homeless people with gun...
yeah i think it's implied that the rejects are a lot more durable than everybody else in the plot treats them
pale onyx
a GUO is like, what, 300 points? it's a greater daemon lmao
yeah and a squad of poxwalkers can take out 1 space marine for example
yet we take out waaayyyy more than that
vale shuttle
a squad of poxwalkers is 100 points. a single space marine is like 21
yeah true yeah true
but also, a GUO is such a step up in power that it strains disbelief
celest dome
There is also size to mind, like a GUO wouldn't work on more then 80% of the maps part
crystal forum
maybe if after level 30 we get a cutscene of our characters undergoing genetic upgrades
celest dome
What about when you face the GUO before being level 30 ?
pale onyx
maybe if after level 30 we get a cutscene of our characters undergoing genetic u...
I think that plus dropping a leman russ on its head to weaken it we would have a chance
pale onyx
What about when you face the GUO before being level 30 ?
not playable before 30 maybe
crystal forum
you really want to drop a tank on something don't you
pale onyx
yes
celest dome
not playable before 30 maybe
Not an Rpg, doesn't fit the model of the game
pale onyx
you really want to drop a tank on something don't you
but do u know what I want more than that
for the game
crystal forum
Not an Rpg, doesn't fit the model of the game
could be elite missions
something to do for the tryhards
pale onyx
Plague toads. They need to be in the game and darktide won't reach its full potential until they add them into the game
celest dome
could be elite missions
Seeing as FS has said they didn't want to gate things to difficulty and that they don't want to separate the community
I'm gonna say no
crystal forum
huh
coarse pumice
what's his stats?
crystal forum
so i guess they like having everybody unhappy
celest dome
Do you have the Plague Toads stats closeby ?
coarse pumice
iirc this is pre realm of chaos
let me see if there's a toad creature in the monsters section though
vale shuttle
im sure if i spent enough time digging through wahapedia i could find four datas...
woops i did it (it was very easy)
https://wahapedia.ru/wh40k9ed/factions/adepta-sororitas/Preacher (25)
https://wahapedia.ru/wh40k9ed/factions/astra-militarum/Primaris-Psyker (60)
https://wahapedia.ru/wh40k9ed/factions/astra-militarum/Bullgryns (30)
https://wahapedia.ru/wh40k9ed/factions/astra-militarum/Cadian-Shock-Troops (maybe 7ish-8ish this one was actually hard there's not really any "lone gunman" IG characters)
total: 120 points
basically, the darktide gang is worth about 120ish points on the tabletop.
coarse pumice
no specific toads
vale shuttle
for reference: a beast of nurlge is 70 points so on "the point market" it adds up
celest dome
I have their army rules/stats
crystal forum
basically, the darktide gang is worth about 120ish points on the tabletop.
damn psyker is expensive
vale shuttle
psychic powers in tabletop are expensive in general
celest dome
Only HQ in the list ? No ?
vale shuttle
especially if you're not a designated psyker faction like the grye knights or thousand sons
vale shuttle
Only HQ in the list ? No ?
no. there are no HQs on this list
oh wait
the primaris psyker is one actually
hush my mouth
coarse pumice
The veteran would be more like a regional Kaskrin
vale shuttle
yeah i was considering the kaskrin but idk 🤷
im not an IG player tbh so i kinda fumbled when i got to them
coarse pumice
what happened to the old 'hardened veterans' entry? 
vale shuttle
idk i guess it got axed
celest dome
The veteran would be more like a regional Kaskrin
Kaskrin count as Stormtrooper
coarse pumice
hmm, looks like veterans were put in HQ as command squad
weirdly, the veterans aren't any better at shooting, but they are better at close combat
pale onyx
Hey guys is there a lore reason why only crippled marines get put into dreadnoughts? Or is it only so the emperor doesn't have to pay for their retirement
celest dome
SM don't really have a retirement plan, the IoM isn't really good with it's peoples
crisp heath
Death is the retirement plan
celest dome
Even sometime it isn't
coarse pumice
do you think Maugan Ra talks ONLY IN ALL CAPS?
celest dome
||I think he only talk in spoiler||
coarse pumice
pale onyx
what
crystal forum
are they built small or are they meant to grow up
celest dome
The Tech Priest is just very big
crystal forum
am i crazy or is that skitarii armed with a fallout laser rifle
crystal forum
huh
crystal forum
speaking of which, i read something about a skitarii having a grenade launcher that shoots EMP's. is that an actual thing?
celest dome
With a Galvanic Rifle, an Arc Pistol and a Blaster Pistol
arctic talon
speaking of which, i read something about a skitarii having a grenade launcher t...
They have emp bombs
But they don’t get them on the tabletop anymore
crystal forum
anymore?
arctic talon
In fact they don’t get any of their grenades anymore
celest dome
Mind Scrambler grenades ?
Work the same way iirc
arctic talon
They had them in 7e
arctic talon
Mind Scrambler grenades ?
Work the same way iirc
Arc bombs
crystal forum
were they OP or something
crystal forum
can't those pretty much immobilise space marines
arctic talon
No haywire didn’t work on marines gameplay wise
celest dome
Arc bombs
Aren't Arc Bomb supposed to release a blast of electricity in the lore ?
And iirc the Flyer one still have them
arctic talon
But it made every vehicle shit themselves
arctic talon
Aren't Arc Bomb supposed to release a blast of electricity in the lore ?
And iir...
The pteraxii have them but they aren’t grenades
It’s weird
The pteraxii have a specific stratagem to drop them
So you can’t chuck 10 million of them
crystal forum
the story in question is one of the first soul drinker books
celest dome
No haywire didn’t work on marines gameplay wise
Haywire is Eldar stuffno ?
arctic talon
Haywire is Eldar stuffno ?
Haywire is a generic rule
Along with being an eldar grenade type
celest dome
But still the Emp for the Admech seem to be Mindscrambler, not Arc Grenades ?
arctic talon
But still the Emp for the Admech seem to be Mindscrambler, not Arc Grenades ?
Mindscrambler was for rust stalkers and infiltrators
Normal skitarii had their own grenades
That caused haywire
crystal forum
thanks bot
well that was a whole minute wasted
anyways the skitari has a nade launcher and has a ton of text explaining his connection to it then he gets speared in the face
i love when that happens
way better than the rememberancers in the first horus heresy books who take up half the damn volume and get killed in throwaway lines
pale onyx
with the final book coming out eventually for the siege of terra I really hope the fan theory is correct, that it was Sanguis (I cant spell for shit) who killed Horus and the emperor had to kill Sanguis which is why he hesitated.
crimson kayak
...why would he have to kill sanguinius for killing horus?
that makes... zero sense?
odd palm
Another crackpot fan theory…..last thing I want to see
celest dome
You want another ?
Alpharius never existed
He is a scheme from Omegon which went to far
crimson kayak
Only way to make it work
yes, let's forget everything that happens to Sanguinius during the Battle Of Terra just to focus on something derived from no-where yes yes
celest dome
Skaven ?
odd palm
Ngl if the Hawkboy is killed by Big E theory proves true (which it won't, it's insane). BA fans gonna burn down BL
crimson kayak
Ngl if the Hawkboy is killed by Big E theory proves true (which it won't, it's i...
don't they actually relive sanguinius memories during the black rage?
or it's just the berserker rage that sanguinius had?
odd palm
Nah you're right, they relive his las moments iirc
coarse pumice
pale onyx
Another crackpot fan theory…..last thing I want to see
Here's another fan theory for ya, all the primearchs actually have minor warp gods as their souls. Since the big E went into the warp to make some sort of deal or steal something from there to make the primearchs. And it kinda makes sense since what we know about Sanguis has angel of dark and light. As well as why normal primearchs usually beat daemon primearchs, because daemon primearchs should be just more powerful but if they ascend to daemon hood they "loose" the part of their soul thats a minor warp god.
odd palm
Heard that one before, r/40k lore do be a detriment to the fandom
pale onyx
how so? I think its fun to come up with these theories with what we know about the lore
odd palm
I mean if that's your primary enjoyment of the setting, go for it.
I'd just like to see more receipts than often one or two excerpts and headcanon to bridge the gap when pedalling these tbh
pale onyx
not my primary enjoyment by far for this setting. But yeah these are theories, not confirmed offically obviously. Just fun to talk about
arctic talon
Heard that one before, r/40k lore do be a detriment to the fandom
If we wana talk about detriments to the fanbase 1d4chan wins that award imo
but meh
odd palm
Fair, that and grimdank
arctic talon
Tbh grimdank is a meme sub
So it can be excused a bit more
But meh
I’d rather people get their lore from primary sources
Rather then secondary ones
odd palm
Not really, just posting decade old memes and people thinks it's lore
odd palm
topaz gate
Rough estimates, how many people died in the War in Heaven
celest dome
Untold number, way higher than the whole of Mankind who died since we crawled put of the sea
storm jungle
how many people are in heaven, start counting
crimson kayak
A lot
crimson kayak
I mean if that's your primary enjoyment of the setting, go for it.
I'd just like...
What I mostly hate is how they decide to use the least logical headcanon to bridge said gaps
odd palm
I don't get it
fierce pendant
how many people are in heaven, start counting
Just Horus
storm jungle
💀
plush mason
how many people are in heaven, start counting
iirc there are some text that state is only like 130k
like that is all that will ever be allowed into heaven
for the rest its limbo or hell
plush mason
yeah the bible is very clear that nothing you do in life will ensure you get into heaven
celest dome
for the rest its limbo or hell
Well see yall in hell or something
plush mason
it only offers ways to improve your odds
celest dome
Wait does it mean that you could end up in heaven and then be booted because someone take your place ?
plush mason
i guess
or it could mean that less than 1% of all those that die have even a change to get in in the first place
the afterlife is a very very raw deal when you actually look at what the texts say about it
celest dome
How many ppl died in either WW ?
plush mason
10 million in ww1 and 60 in 2
and rn there is 8 billion people on earth
and growing
130k isnt even a fraction of us
astral whale
how many people are in heaven, start counting
You’ve gotten me thinking. How is heaven organized? We need a divine comedy that takes place in heaven.
plush mason
that show would get canceled before its pilot even aired lol
celest dome
Divine Comedy already has parts that take part in Heaven iirc
green loom
You ever notice that the Hierophant is doing the Jack O pose?
astral whale
Divine Comedy already has parts that take part in Heaven iirc
Do they go over how heaven is organized? Is heaven even organized?
celest dome
Honestly I dont remember
storm jungle
You ever notice that the Hierophant is doing the Jack O pose?
Someone told me of it and i cannot unsee it
crimson kayak
or it could mean that less than 1% of all those that die have even a change to g...
wait, isn't limbo a temporary place? (unless you are talking about the divine commedy version)
coarse pumice
Jack-O?
coarse pumice
it is Jack-O from Armored Core
crimson kayak
that is one
arctic talon
Jack-O from guilty gear
plush mason
wait, isn't limbo a temporary place? (unless you are talking about the divine co...
nah it is an permeate waiting room for those that dont belong in ether heaven or hell
another name for it is purgatory
crimson kayak
just read it up, it's temporary for everyone except unbaptized people
plush mason
must be from a different text then
crimson kayak
yeah limbo never was a clear thing from the bible
plush mason
yeah some texts say its a place of damnation where you wait forever and others says its just a waiting room while you are sorted
so yes even heaven has a waiting que lol
crimson kayak
like, there's also texts and such that describe people in limbo actually being happy
plush mason
yeah
crimson kayak
so yeah, tl:Dr Limbo is whatever you want at that moment
plush mason
yup
arctic talon
Veteran guardsmen minatures
Pretty neat that they’re based on the old minis from inquisitor
arctic talon
I think I'd blow my own fucking brains out
versed ledge
Come on it can't be that bad....
celest dome
wait, isn't limbo a temporary place? (unless you are talking about the divine co...
No in all case while Limbo is a passage place you can end up stuck in it, like if you have not been bad enough for hell but not pious enough for heaven
celest dome
Veteran guardsmen minatures
Dunno about the top one but the bottom one is from a John Blanche Art
arctic talon
Come on it can't be that bad....
I too wish to be worked to death in a manufacotrum
versed ledge
Doesn't that already happen
celest dome
I'd rather have Biblical hell and heaven be real than live in a 40k universe
summer rover
So what if we make Warhammer 40k verse a reality
pretty sure that's just poland right now
versed ledge
Come on, Poland ain't that bad
crystal forum
40k is just sci fi streets of london
is there anybody here who can describe every astartes chapter and something they've done
signal bramble
is there anybody here who can describe every astartes chapter and something they...
There are literally hundred if not thousands of chapters.
crystal forum
yes but im wondering how knowledgeable somebody can be of 40k lore
is it possible to read every book
versed ledge
That means there's potential a chapter filled space marine girls but as anime maids
bright anvil
Consider, existing in wh40k offeres the opportunity to be fucked up, evil, and immortal
Could be fun
versed ledge
And even in death, don't expect to have a cozy after life....or to have one's body buried
crisp heath
Do they go over how heaven is organized? Is heaven even organized?
I've been sleeping all day but I can talk about this in alarming depth
orchid lark
yes but im wondering how knowledgeable somebody can be of 40k lore
Something something not about reading everything but reading the right amount and actually understanding stuff
Carl Sagan said that
shadow plover
Think the GW loremasters whom the writers confirm and reference stuff are the most well versed in the Warhammer lore and pretty sure even they aren't 100% knowledgeable of everything in it
orchid lark
They themselves chalk it up to unreliable narration/propaganda revisions
shadow plover
Actually not sure if they still exist but I recall them being mentioned in an interview with a Black Library writer some time ago
orchid lark
The high lords
hallow saddle
is there anybody here who can describe every astartes chapter and something they...
there are 1000 chapters in 40k, plus entirely new primaris ones, the vast majority are unnamed and are basically left as room for people to create their own.
If someone can name even 50 chapters they'd be super sensei level loremaster. Lots are only mentioned once by name in a white dwarf article or a codex just to add flavour to a story
Wish that pic was available in a way where you can read the text
tawny kite
dry epoch
https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/SMCustomChapterTa...
I used to have that poster up above my desk.
orchid lark
I wish I had that as a poster
storm jungle
I wish I had a poster
green loom
You people are allowed to buy stuff?
pale onyx
there are 1000 chapters in 40k, plus entirely new primaris ones, the vast majori...
Yeah new chapters of primaris marines and primaris marines filling old chapters spots since a shit ton of firstborn marines died when the great rift happened I think there’s way more primaris marines now than first born
orchid lark
I hope so
pale onyx
And almost all famous named firstborn marines getting the surgery to become primaris
orchid lark
Or died
pale onyx
Yeah
orchid lark
RIP to most of the space wolves lords lmao
Teach them to be written better than Ragnar
pale onyx
I would love to see a revival of the space wolves with new units and such. Or their prime arch returning from the warp, maybe finding what he was looking for
green loom
Hard not to, but then again it's Space Wolves
pale onyx
Actually does primaris blood angels have the red thirst and black rage?
orchid lark
Hopefully Ragnar isnt integral to that plot
orchid lark
Actually does primaris blood angels have the red thirst and black rage?
Yeah they still do
pale onyx
Okay good but how come? I thought their geneseed was more stable or something
orchid lark
Their geneseed has always been “stable”
But the flaw
Is just
That much stronger
Also Black Rage is like what a psychic echo?
crimson kayak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi6Xgtm9OX8 <:PES_Cry:493359762432327691>
For a second I read "sons of the forest" and confused it for the game
crimson kayak
Okay good but how come? I thought their geneseed was more stable or something
It was thought so, but then there's been a bad situation where a lot of primaris suddenly succumbed
(aka they had to release primaris death companies and didn't know how)
orchid lark
(And they still fucked that up)
pale onyx
The black rage is when they see everyone as horus and go ape shit right
crimson kayak
The black rage is when they see everyone as horus and go ape shit right
More or less
orchid lark
They are reliving the last moments of Sanguinius
crimson kayak
Basically they think they are Sanguinius during the Terran Siege
orchid lark
So yeah more or less
pale onyx
And what’s the red thirst exactly?
crimson kayak
Vampires basically
orchid lark
Bloodlust
That they can
Somewhat fight back
Its always a losing fight
Unless youre mephiston
Who was once Callistarius
(From the hit game Space Hulk)
Raven Guard has their own version kinda thinig
Ash Blindness
a more focused version of the Red Thirst
they lose self preservation but become focused killing machines
pale onyx
crimson kayak
now that i think about it, the new penance cosmetic sets seem to be a defining line in the operative types aboard the mourningstar, with the old cosmetics representing Auric's, pre-order set Mortis and the new sets the Rejects
vale shuttle
Darktide lore chat, do you guys think everything should be chaos corruptible?
i recently learnt about the murder curse and got mildly peeved the grey knights and Custodes got to dodge it while the sisters of battle and Primaris marines didn't
it felt inconsistent since all four are ALLEGEDLY meant to be incorruptible
storm jungle
Custodes and GK are weird because they are the most mary sue people in the setting.
Custoes get away with it due to handwavy nonsense and GK are just equipped with 3029450 anti-chaos mcguffins
vale shuttle
thats totally correct, they're the super special boys everyone else must be lesser in comparison to
imo it kinda lessens the idea of chaos if there are two groups who are just immune to y'know the thing that preys on emotional instability
it kinda implies the grey knights and Custodes literally never doubt themselves or get lost in bloodlust or get tricked or etc etc etc
celest dome
Blank should be untoucheable for Chaos, but still become Chaos Allied/wanting
vale shuttle
yeah blanks make sense in being unchaosable
crimson kayak
it kinda implies the grey knights and Custodes literally never doubt themselves ...
with custodes this could be appliable, with grey knights you can attribute it to walking around with only equipment designed for the sole purpose of staving away chaos
storm jungle
their literal bones are etched with warding runes iirc
but they CAN be tempted, they are just way too strong willpower wise
crimson kayak
and even then, with custodes we may not yet know considering the whole city of dust affair
vale shuttle
it's why i bring up the murder curse, since it made everyone go "oohhh im a khorne guy now time to stab everyone"
storm jungle
that chapter is pretty funny
it has like
a sororitas gun down a repentia whos gone crazy
then shes like
YES IM CHOSEN
I WILL MAKE IT OUT OF HERE
THE EMPEROR AS MY WITNESS ILL-
gets gunned down by a knight and instantly dies
crimson kayak
btw, it's not even specified who's resistant or not
storm jungle
the new White Dwarf article also reveals a blood crusade of chaos black templars with some other chapters and guard regiments are rampaging through a sector
its post Murder Curse
vale shuttle
yeeeaaaahhhh idk im not super hyped by the idea of sisters of battle who are meant to be just as if not more fanatical and incorruptible as the grey knights getting shown up by them because they're The Most Special Boys™️
crimson kayak
yeeeaaaahhhh idk im not super hyped by the idea of sisters of battle who are mea...
that probably gets down to equipment and not zeal
vale shuttle
alas thats 40k in a nutshell
mmmmm i can't argue with that
storm jungle
Luv me lazy writers
crimson kayak
the new White Dwarf article also reveals a blood crusade of chaos black templars...
yep, basically most if not all fleet Quartus is now a khorne army
crimson kayak
https://tenor.com/view/kunleinho-kunleinhogifs-family-guy-beating-assault-gif-20...
khorne afflicted to the milions of fleet quartus still loyal soldiers left behind and declared traitors
vale shuttle
gosh im glad i don't know any Black Templars fans since im sure they're angry about their special boys being chaos affilia- oh no im a hypocrite
storm jungle
Black Templar fans are just... bad
vale shuttle
storm jungle
I have been in this fandom for 10 years and I've yet to meet a normal one.
storm jungle
LMAO yeah...
Basically they are always one of these things
- Racist
- Fascist
- Homophobic
or just all 3
or thinking IRL crusades were good
vale shuttle
it's because black templars are the ultimate "purgebros"
storm jungle
yeah that
crimson kayak
meawnhile me in my corner with my red templars
storm jungle
LIKING templars is fine dont get me wrong, they are cool
vale shuttle
communist templars(a very large amount of question marks)
storm jungle
as the general rule applies just dont be a sociopath 
vale shuttle
liking krieg or the black templars or even the imperium as a whole is FINE
but being like "yes yes yes yes kill those filthy dirty xenos scum" all the goddamn time is
suspicious and also boring
and black templars superfans do that a lot
storm jungle
40k draws the worst kind of people
its harder to do with Fantasy and Age of Sigmar thankfully
vale shuttle
||this is why 40k needs its own end times||
storm jungle
It will happen once it stops making money
so not for long while at least
we need all the primarchs back first
vale shuttle
it'll NEVER HAPPEN
40k is too big to fail!!!!
im stuck in this heeeelllll!!!!!!
i've even become that which i hate: an imperium player!!!! oh god!!!!
storm jungle
signal bramble
liking krieg or the black templars or even the imperium as a whole is FINE
Indeed. You can appreciate an aesthetic or fictional faction without supporting the underlying philosophy.
vale shuttle
(or spamming a channel / forum / page with "hahaha purge the xenos")
storm jungle
A lot of 40k artists friends I have who draw xenos deal with that lmao
storm jungle
40k makes me wish the word "heresy" didnt exist
signal bramble
I never took people posting that meme stuff seriously anyway.
vale shuttle
hahaha heresy, haha purge hahaha
damn sean this is so funny!!! when'd you become so funny!!!!???!! i think you're the funniest person in this channel
vale shuttle
I never took people posting that meme stuff seriously anyway.
it's rarely serious, but it is intensely annoying to anyone who spends time in 40k spaces (me)
storm jungle
DAMN YOU GREECE
vale shuttle
the fucking greeks ruin my life again
signal bramble
40k makes me wish the word "heresy" didnt exist
Well then Dilara I have a surprise for you.
vale shuttle
this is just like 1996 all over again
storm jungle
oh nooooo
signal bramble
This an actual word that exists.
crimson kayak
well, choice becoming heresy seems extremely fitting for both religion and the imperium tbf lol
storm jungle
This an actual word that exists.
AUGHHH
vale shuttle
BUT HERESIARCH IS SUCH A COOL WORD
vale shuttle
i first heard it in a destiny lore doc and it was so good
signal bramble
BUT HERESIARCH IS SUCH A COOL WORD
Right? I’m surprised they didn’t use it.
vale shuttle
if my sisters of battle ever go renegade they're gonna call their leader the "Heresiarch"
orchid lark
So his name was actually Horus Heresiarch
Not Horus Heresy
Thats a mystery solved
vale shuttle
just like how the emperor was named Jimmy Space
"They will be my Jimmy Space Marines, and they shall Know No Fear (buy now on Audible)."
crimson kayak
So his name was actually Horus Heresiarch
tbf Heresiarch Horus Lupercal sounds good
orchid lark
Eddy M. Peter
signal bramble
Not Horus Heresy
Horus Heresiarch the Warhammer 40k
vale shuttle
Exerpt from Page 429 of The End and the Death Part 2:
"Father! How dare you! How dare you not tell me who the Warhammer 40000 is!"
"...Horus...Horus, it's you. HORUS HERESY, YOU ARE THE WARHAMMER 40000!"
"WHAT?! NO! IT CAN'T BE!"
copper patrol
so deep😔
vale shuttle
and then a few pages after that we get:
"Rogal, you must help me...this is my End and the Death Part 2."
storm jungle
'What do you think of the light now?' Guilliman asked.
'I like it well enough,' said Gantulga. 'It is not the trap I feared. But I marked your words to the Imperial Fist. The actions of Horus...'
He said the name like a snake-hiss, as if it burned his mouth and he wanted to spit it out.
'Heresy, I would say,' said Guilliman. 'It was treachery at first. To turn against brothers, to kill for personal advancement and power. But we have seen them, seen how their minds and bodies have been corrupted. their very belief systems have been warped. This is no longer Horus' treachery. It is his heresy.'
vale shuttle
GUILLIMAN REALLY DID IT, HE GOT THE TITLE DROP
storm jungle
ALSO YOU JOKE
vale shuttle
this is why he got to come back first
orchid lark
The late title card lmao
storm jungle
But in the End and the Death book, they repeat the fucking title like 6 times in the novel
ITS SO BAD
vale shuttle
But in the End and the Death book, they repeat the fucking title like **6 times*...
dilara can i have the excerpts please please pretty please with heresy on top
orchid lark
I appreciate that
signal bramble
You know GSC suddenly topping the win rates in 9th really surprised me. They were kind of a meme for a long time and you never really hear about any new releases or updates for them. Then suddenly they have the highest win rate. They popped up and won out of nowhere.
Which, perhaps most ironically, is exactly how they work in the lore.
vale shuttle
genestealer cults are weird
orchid lark
Theyre my favourite Mad Max spin off
vale shuttle
they've gotta be one of the least popular armies, i rarely see people who're ride or die for them
orchid lark
GSC is definitely one of the nicer things we got
And i think everyone just sees them like a nice plate of fries
A perfect thing to have on the side
Thanks GW
signal bramble
The gsc are getting a lot more representation in the novels also. Mostly because they have a mix of cannon fodder, elites, and giant monsters. But are much more organized as opposed to Chaos.
orchid lark
Votann is a salad
storm jungle
yeah GSC are HELLA organized
orchid lark
Its nice but why do I want this Salad?
storm jungle
mostly because they literally share a psychic mind
compared to Chaos cults who always infight
orchid lark
Group Hysteria
vale shuttle
GSC are a political paramilitary worshipping hungey space bugs
storm jungle
signal bramble
compared to Chaos cults who always infight
Yep it makes them a much more dangerous opponent than the random chaos cultists.
vale shuttle
i have no idea what this pyrocynical event is and i dont even know if i want to ask
chaos armies can be beaten the same way orks can be: by killing their leader and watching them infight it to death
orchid lark
Genestealers Cults are if Twitch Subscribers decided to work together and not kekw
Chaos Cultists are Twitch Subscribers
Thats all
vale shuttle
ive got no fucking idea why the imperium in the great crusade was so scared of ullanor when they knew they just needed to wait long enough and there was a 95% chance they'd fall apart before making it out of their segmentum
vale shuttle
Chaos Cultists are Twitch Subscribers
who are the streamers
orchid lark
who are the streamers
Whichever Streamer you think has the most unhinged followers
vale shuttle
i constantly hear "ohhh the emperor was scared of the ullanor orks cause they were special and gonna evolve into krorks" but ive never seen an excerpt that justifies that
vale shuttle
Whichever Streamer you think has the most unhinged followers
jerma
orchid lark
Nah Jermas is GSC, he is the patriarch for sure
vale shuttle
jerma's followers are so unhinged they convinced the world that A Normal Guy™️ is a serial killer
orchid lark
Except at some point he lost contact of the hive mind
But has to play it off
“Trust me, I KNOW what im doing”
vale shuttle
"Chat - chat - chat - what do you mean contact the Hive Mind? W- WHAT HIVE MIND?! There's nothing out there, guys! G-guys!"
"Urgh, whatever, let's just get back to overthrowing the government, hah..."
orchid lark
Proceeds to have the cult ransack a mining rig but forgets to mention to not blow up the entrances
vale shuttle
"...YOU BLEW UP THE ENTRANCES?!"
orchid lark
So they all get stuck in there
vale shuttle
"How're we gonna get out?!?!?!"
orchid lark
“I WAS BEING SARCASTIC CHaT
vale shuttle
"Chat - I'M SERIOUS THIS WAS A BAD IDEA."
orchid lark
“Talk more about the Hive Mind”
vale shuttle
"WHAT HIVE MIND?!"
"I TOLD YOU I CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING."
i joke with a friend that if i went into a jerma stream and said "Jerma when's the piss stream you promised?" it'd take 15 minutes before his chat would be flooded with "piss stream when"
orchid lark
Points to a four armed emperor statue, now loogadis
crimson kayak
i constantly hear "ohhh the emperor was scared of the ullanor orks cause they we...
basically he wanted to prevent what happens (ironically on ullanor too) with the beast waagh
but by doing so the "normal" way, aka slaying their leader then cleaning up, they actually went and made so the beast could rise lol
btw let's remember one of the prime orks reached the size of a hab-block basically making him atleast knight sized
crisp heath
i constantly hear "ohhh the emperor was scared of the ullanor orks cause they we...
isn't the war of the beast(and maybe margaret thatcher) a justification tho
vale shuttle
iiiiii ggggguuuuessssss ssssoooorrrtttt oooofffff
i suppose it's a retroactive justification i GUESS
except neither of them wiped out the human race or galactic civilization and that the argument line goes that if the emperor hadn't done the great crusade the orks would've done that sooooo 🤷
green loom
It happened like three thousand years after
vale shuttle
oh lmao ok nevermind it's not a justification for thast
i reject the idea that you can justify doing xyz thing because if you dont in 3000 years the world will end because that's just silly
uneven temple
It's the endgame of orks, they only fall apart if they have no other entity to go up against
crimson kayak
except neither of them wiped out the human race or galactic civilization and tha...
neither of them did because they were dealt with before they could
with the war of the beast being an especially costly endeavour that threatened terra itself
dapper cloak
The whole point is getting the Orks before they come to get you
The Emperor understood the threat of allowing Orks to be left alone. Only the strongest will emerge among their infighting, and the horde will grow. That’s exactly what happened during the War of the Beast, the prime example of Orks left alone for an extended period of time
From Ullanor to the War of the Beast, Orks were overall absent and diminished to frontier world minor threats.
dapper cloak
with the war of the beast being an especially costly endeavour that threatened t...
Also this. Terra herself was surrounded and had Attack-moons in its orbit
crimson kayak
also remember that vulkan died in said war, consider him lucky he's also a perpetual
dapper cloak
Also that. While we might not have any specific passage about the Emperor judging the threat of the Orks, we can safely assume he had his worries.
He lived through the Age of Strife, witnessing the fall of mankind. He knew of Orks, and how many worlds they had destroyed. He knew how much of a threat they were, a reason why they were such a big target during the Great Crusade
A reason why Xenos overall were such a target. A result of what they had done to Mankind prior
molten brook
hot take but..... perturabo is a real tactical chad, dorn is lame
undone zodiac
Currently occupied haunting walls of the lorgar
molten brook
Yessir, mutated space bird is hunting him down like american drones over the middle east
pretty big win
molten brook
lorgar is literally osama big laden in hiding, only time will tell
undone zodiac
Lorgar brushing his teeth realising it is corvus holding the toothbrush
molten brook
my question is, when gw does bring back corax, which they will do eventually. how will the imperium react to him being a mutant?
🤔
signal bramble
my question is, when gw does bring back corax, which they will do eventually. ho...
That’s assuming knowledge of him becomes widely known which doesn’t strike me as his style.
undone zodiac
my question is, when gw does bring back corax, which they will do eventually. ho...
Im going to assume it will include massive plateful of retcon ravioli
molten brook
well yea, i was thinking that the inquisition gets reformed through a violent coup brought on by one of the current primarchs and they do it that way.....
but yea.... retcon ravioli sounds about right
green loom
Can't happen
The "Inquisition" isn't a thing
You have an ever bloated number of ordos and enclaves with their own agenda constantly killing each other
molten brook
Fair, just trying to think about how gw would have to handle that to bring back corax
tough haven
Has there ever been a time when Necrons and Eldar fought against a larger threat? (Eg. Chaos/orks/tyranids)
I doubt it, but sometimes I’m surprised
summer rover
no, both those factions are too ooooooookie to make the moves needed to work together. there's gotta be a middleman.
orchid lark
i dont think they could be friends
or even look at each other without raising a gun
too much bad blood
dapper cloak
Has there ever been a time when Necrons and Eldar fought against a larger threat...
They did in the book Wild Rider, to prevent Daemonic stuff
Idk if its canon any more because the bookline was dropped but ye
crimson kayak
my question is, when gw does bring back corax, which they will do eventually. ho...
Probably gonna be as some sort of imperial daemon, after all it's not like the ecclesiarchy is punching Celestine for having wings
orchid lark
All Saints have wings more or less
Not all of them
Like that one dude
Some Guardsman commander who became a saint
But then Abaddon destroyed his coffin and remains preventing him from being summoned again
Also an asshole or something
crimson kayak
Tbf after the plague wars and having both Mathias and that other ecclesiarchy guy pull Living Saint powers out of their bum we can't even be sure what's a living Saint anymore lol
orchid lark
Also Macharius (or Slaydo, cant remember) had something that projected wings like a hologram
orchid lark
Tbf after the plague wars and having both Mathias and that other ecclesiarchy gu...
I wish there was more stuff on Saints cause its cool
But i feel like if theres too much lore on them
It takes away the magic (lmao)
crimson kayak
I mean... I see them being called imperial daemons since forever so I think the magic is long gone lol
orchid lark
when people say Humanity is gonna become a psychic race like the eldar, they think itll be like the old ways of Eldar
but whatever we got here is better
crimson kayak
We just skipping to the "Birthing a God" Part
coarse pumice
when people say Humanity is gonna become a psychic race like the eldar, they thi...
That might be like the old ways, where the Eldar gods walked among us before the separation
orchid lark
doubt wed reach that far into the lore
but who knows
maybe warhammer 50k will be right around the corner
(probably not)
crimson kayak
Btw for everyone who yesterday was discussing about the leman russ... It just got added to world of tanks proper
orchid lark
cant wait for an admech priest to leak blueprints about it
crimson kayak
Lol
Wich btw makes me wonder why no one yet attempted a vehicle based game for 40k
Like, the only ones we got that don't use mechs are Dakka Squadron and Aeronautica Imperialis
coarse pumice
As in video game?
As for tabletop there’s adeptus titanicus
BFG when they made it
crimson kayak
Technically both, I don't count titanicus and BFG because those are Mechs and Spaceships, I mean more in terms of planes/tanks
orchid lark
and planes too
tough haven
or even look at each other without raising a gun
I would hope survival would be enough encouragement, or to not fight two fronts at once, I was mostly meaning like they are in a skirmish with each other and then a larger threat shows up, and then they focus on that for the time being, and then maybe go back to killing each other
crystal forum
Wich btw makes me wonder why no one yet attempted a vehicle based game for 40k
I think it's because conventional vehicles in 40k are boring.
coarse pumice
Gorkamorka
celest dome
Gorkamorka
signal bramble
Wich btw makes me wonder why no one yet attempted a vehicle based game for 40k
My dream 40k game is an imperial knights game in the vein of armored core.
crimson kayak
My dream 40k game is an imperial knights game in the vein of armored core.
i would expect it to be more like a simplified mechwarrior with more flashed out melee
signal bramble
i would expect it to be more like a simplified mechwarrior with more flashed out...
That could work to. I’d also want it to be a fully fleshed out branching story with imperialis, mechanicus, freeblade, and chaos paths.
coarse pumice
My dream 40k game is an imperial knights game in the vein of armored core.
I’ve been thinking about this, I would even like a ‘retro’ style one like that fps does with 90s shooters, but this does for AC1
orchid thicket
hot take but..... perturabo is a real tactical chad, dorn is lame
Hey now, Dorn's defense of the Solar System was pretty good considering he was outnumbered at least 3 to 1
Though it's true Perturabo was carrying the traitors hard towards the end of the heresy
storm jungle
In the newest Siege book Horus says he wishes he got Dorn to his side instead of Perturabo
which is incredibly funny lmao
celest dome
That is a hottake, and a bad one at that
Like the only failure on Dorn's part is the Iron Cage tbh
orchid thicket
Yeah lmao Perty's personality makes him unreliable
storm jungle
To be fair he still carried the Siege on his back while Horus literally did nothing.
I dont ever blame him or leaving lmao
dapper cloak
“My primarch, the traitors are descending onto Terra. Where do we send our Tactical squads”
Dorn: “To war..”
“That doesnt help”
storm jungle
Also that too.
orchid thicket
Is that an actual line?
dapper cloak
No its just a meme on Dorns one liners and shit
dapper cloak
Yeah literally
storm jungle
Half the reason dorn is this popular as a primarch is also because of TTS' perception upon the fandom, otherwise hes a very mid-tier Primarch
dapper cloak
Oh god TTS
storm jungle
dapper cloak
I understand why people like it, i personally cant stand it. The amount of people i deal with who quote it as lore kills me
storm jungle
Yeah same.
orchid thicket
I reckon it's due to nostalgia
storm jungle
Alfa is a good writer and comedian but its the fanbase which really ruined it for me.
orchid thicket
Or otherwise, people watched it when they were younger and liked it
storm jungle
His perception is "Oh im just gonna write this one off joke because it seems funny."
meanwhile people go
near wasp
Tts is fun but its not a good scource for lore
dapper cloak
The main issue overall is people relying on YT and anything like that for lore. When really, you should just read
storm jungle
Or just use the lexi tbh
crimson kayak
Alfa is a good writer and comedian but its the fanbase which **really** ruined i...
oh god this made me remember i used to roleplay in the alfa legion forum
crystal forum
my headcannon dorn is the one from TTS because he's actually interesting
storm jungle
If you want to see a better 40K Dorn look at the Dorn in Hunter the Parenting
which isnt 40k
but its basically the same character
crystal forum
don't you mean door
near wasp
Thats Door, hes 100% a different person than rogal dorn
crystal forum
storm jungle
near wasp
vale shuttle
i just got finished rewatching an episode of hunter the parenting
such a good series, can't wait for more
storm jungle
the production quality is actually incredible