40k-lore-chat

[orchid lark]

Space Marines are lobsters

[storm jungle]

as i said above its the fandom thats at fault here

[orchid lark]

There

[storm jungle]

but sorry i hope this explains it Joseph

[near wasp]

Yikes

[orchid lark]

To cure those people youd need to tell them to read some codexes

[near wasp]

I ussually just immerse myself in lore not explore reddit. Reddit pisses me off in general

[orchid lark]

Some@40k books

And have them make some of their own little guys

[storm jungle]

Yeah Joseph dont worry its fine

like this is MAINLY reddit but has basically spread like wildfire into any Space Marine fan corner

as long as you dont involve yourself in that you wont really see much

[orchid lark]

I dont like going to /tg/ but its still okay there

[near wasp]

XD im totally gonne get like the octarias box to get space marines and necrons so i can start my dream armies

[orchid lark]

Tho /tg/ is very game focused tho

[green loom]

It's imperceptible to everyone but Lion and they're acting like it's Siggy or Dante levels of worn down lol

Like he looks old physically

[orchid lark]

Blood Angels dont count for shit for aging

They drink blood

And get youthful

Ez gg no re

[green loom]

Yeah but Dante doesn't want to

Remember how his buddy had to beg him to do it

[orchid lark]

He did drink some before the devastation

[green loom]

That's what I mean

[orchid lark]

“I can resist everything but temptation”

[green loom]

Now I'm thinking of making my marines have a blood tithe on their homeworld

[orchid lark]

All Blood Angel succesor got them for the most part

[green loom]

I'm thinking more Angels Vermillion style

[orchid lark]

Those prisoners are gonna be useful for something

[green loom]

Have you seen the new thing I posted

[orchid lark]

I just wrote mine as a yearly blood drive

But the chapter does abduct a few hundred people

[green loom]

As they say, om nom

[orchid lark]

Its a crusade fleet, no home planet

Listen, my chapter is banking on shitty bureaucracy

[green loom]

Mine are slightly less shitty feudal overlords

[orchid lark]

The governor isnt gonna realise when a thousand boys are missing

They arent gonna miss a thousand more normal people

Decimators aint take shit from no one

[green loom]

Maybe I should write some more lore for the AB

[orchid lark]

I have my lore doc

Thats like 7 years ild

Or 8 years

[green loom]

Mine's at most 3

But it is

Well

I've read better Reddit posts

[orchid lark]

Original name was Firebloods but Decimators sounded better

[odd palm]

Lineage and doctrine?

[orchid lark]

Its your own homebrew

Its supposed to be cringy

That way you know you poured your heart into it

[green loom]

No like

I feel into a lot of the crappy pitfalls

[orchid lark]

Blood Angels and CQC

[orchid lark]

Thats okay

[green loom]

My writing quality has improved considerably since so like

It's due an upgrade

[orchid lark]

Dont worry too much about it

[green loom]

Also due more art

[orchid lark]

You worry too much and get anxious you may end up killing the love for it

[green loom]

I'm fine for now

[odd palm]

Tbh most people when first starting off fall into a number of traps
The biggest one imo is lineage dictates doctrine and culture

Would be surprised how many associate those two together as a rule

[orchid lark]

Decimators are Blood Angels successors that maintain very little of the culture

They have no home

They only keep first names

[odd palm]

Makes sense, do they vibe around a certain sector?

[orchid lark]

Nah, background wise

They exist as a form punishment

Sometime during the scouring and after the codex

Some blood angels took the scouring a bit too seriously

Some folks didnt like that they were acting on their own and just dishing out justice really harshly

But couldnt deny their effectiveness

[odd palm]

Oh what I mean is, have they decided upon a certain sector or sub-sector they have sworn protection of.
Or do they just sail around the galaxy, helping out based upon requests and proximity?

[orchid lark]

They sail everywhere but Segmentum Solar

[odd palm]

Fair enough

[orchid lark]

Move as one fleet a la minotaurs

[odd palm]

Hmm, would raise some eyebrows for sure

[orchid lark]

They’re duty bound to only to fight

So if the crusade ends theyre good as gone for the next

[odd palm]

As they should

[orchid lark]

(Some members of the populace they saved may have disappeared, as will some resources)

But are you really gonna tell these guys to not do that

They also give some spoils to other chapters

“Here you go a battleship we looted”

“Get out there and fight”

Since their Inception back during the end of the Scouring they have bunch of outcasts with them

People who didnt want to be part of the civil war during the heresy

[odd palm]

The reason I asked about if they vibed in one sector is because you could have your crusading chapter have a culture.
But perhaps split it up between a couple companies.
They swore to safeguard sub-sector genericus some time after their founding, early into their oath of protection each company or a couple companies defended planets within and judged the people their worthy of elevation.
So each company or couple companies have preferred recruiting worlds and those worlds shape the cultural mindset of the company, for better or worse

[orchid lark]

Not traitor enough to die, but not loyal enough to be absolved

[orchid lark]

I wanted a no attachments kinda deal

[odd palm]

No that's fair

[orchid lark]

They are meant to show a sense of sanguinius

In that they live and die for the Imperium as a whole

But they know the Imperium is her people not buildings or worlds

(That mindset is not really popular with certain agencies)

[odd palm]

That can still be done even if sworn to a single sector.
Nothing stopping the UMs or BAs from fighting at the other side of the galaxy

But I get what you mean

[green loom]

The Astronomicon doesn't reach Nihilus right?

[orchid lark]

No

[green loom]

Aight ok

[orchid lark]

No lightt for nihilus

Unless youre votann i guess

[green loom]

Might write a short about what the guys were doing during DoB since their homeworld isn't that far

[odd palm]

As with everything. It depends

[orchid lark]

The DoB is one of the few times my chapter split up

They arrived a bit late and as reinforcements the way I see it

So they just filled the gaps

[odd palm]

iirc weren't there only a small handful of BA chapters not present?

[orchid lark]

Atlantean Spears because they had so much shit on their plate

[odd palm]

I remember a recent ultima founding chapter didn't show up because they were busy

That's the one

[orchid lark]

Atlantean werent Ultima

Ultima

[odd palm]

Hmmm

unknown founding

I assumed due their mention only just showing up and using a primaris marine for art

[green loom]

Ultima founding couldn't have made it

[orchid lark]

they would be unnumbered sons still

[green loom]

Because the BA didn't get the reinforcements until the end of the devastation

[orchid lark]

I do have a my own homebrew Sector

[green loom]

Sorely needed it to since like what

3 whole chapters just up and died as a result of the battle

[orchid lark]

80% of everyone just died

[odd palm]

Didn't something like 30-40k perish?

[green loom]

Most of them did

[odd palm]

Might be pulling that number out of my arse

[orchid lark]

its pretty close

[green loom]

It was tens of thousands dead

And the entirety of each of their fleets for the most part

[orchid lark]

a lot had to be rebuilt via primaris alone

[green loom]

Wonder where the Red Tear is hiding

[orchid lark]

Red Tear the Gloriana?

[green loom]

Ye

[orchid lark]

after Signus it was too damaged

[green loom]

Doesn't get blown up as far as I know

[odd palm]

Nothing stopping them from crashing it into another planet

[orchid lark]

its on Baal

[green loom]

Ye but we don't hear about it in 40k

Big sad

[orchid lark]

probably either on Baal again as a fortress

[green loom]

BA lost their flagship in DoB, was pretty sad reading Dante talk about the captain

[orchid lark]

or a part of a defence system

[green loom]

Poor fkn Dante

[odd palm]

Looks like the Red Tear limped it's way back to Sol after Signus and helped in the solar war

[orchid lark]

it got repaired in macragge

then went to Sol

[odd palm]

Created that as an option for a series of wars or to make other imperium 'brews?

[orchid lark]

its my own little mini Nachmund gauntlet

where all my little dudes fight

Orks, Chaos, and Imperium

I got other places for other factions

[green loom]

Same

[odd palm]

Fair enough, good to give yourself a little sandbox

Not sure if you mentioned earlier Ederius.
Your I assume BA chapter, what's their doctrine?

[orchid lark]

BA but less Italian as it should be

[green loom]

Burning me out

[orchid lark]

[odd palm]

[green loom]

I use them 99% for art

[odd palm]

What you draw dictates what you write after?

[green loom]

Rarely write, too lazy and little time

[odd palm]

Fair

[green loom]

The remaining 1% would be models but I can't get any so

[odd palm]

:/

And painting do be time consuming

[orchid lark]

it does

but i love it still

[green loom]

It's expensive and GW shipping policy is absurdly vague

[odd palm]

Tbh I prefer the assembly/kitbashing the most

Oh bruh, tell me about it. GW and especially FW world is stupid expensive here

[orchid lark]

I dont know how but prices for models here is the same as GW in US

and theres also LGS around

[odd palm]

Can?

[orchid lark]

nope

[green loom]

A basic infantry kit here is more than 10% of the average paycheck

[orchid lark]

Im Malaysia based

[odd palm]

Oh

That's mad expensive tho

[orchid lark]

I meann yeah same here but, I managed fine because I live with my parents

and thats it only

Living with parents easy way to live, fast way to hell

[green loom]

It's like 40% of my scholarship also lole

That is

If I could buy any

Which I can't

[orchid lark]

I only buy 40k stuff with the money I earned, so now Im jobless (working at home taking care of my dad, and making a indie game with friends)

I havent bought any in 4 months

ive been paid by my mom for helping around but

thats not a job, if its taking care of family

[terse flume]

is this picture canon

[orchid lark]

kinda

[terse flume]

why did they give the emperor a robot eye

after he was comatose in a chair

[orchid lark]

they thought itd be funny

[signal bramble]

Obviously they connected it to his head because that’s where the psyker power is.

[storm jungle]

Yes it is.

[rose thorn]

Isn’t it how he hooks up to the space compass?

[orchid lark]

Nah hes the lighthouse

Not compass

Like how the Ancestor Votann cores are lighthouses

And the Pharos Beacons

[rose thorn]

Oh yeah my picks for monster hunter chapters atm

White scars
Dark krakens

And another one I’m forgetting

I would make my own chapter but I’d feel better taking another

Oh yeah silver wolves

[orchid lark]

Nothing wrong with making your own

Make more than one

I got me like 13 - 16 homebrew space marine chapters

And thats just space marines

Got me own craftworld, several imperial guard regiments (they’re closer to proxies with slight changes), and loads of chaos warbands

Meddling with a necron empire, on the side of Szarekh (Imotekh followers go away)

[arctic talon]

Average Imotekh L

[orchid lark]

If hes so stormlord how come the Ruinstorm aint his

Checkmate

[crisp heath]

"Eh, I don't know, you're more of a Stormknight, a kind of Stormgentry maybe"

[orchid lark]

Orks, I do love me some pirates and Flashgitz

But I love the idea that a big painboss is leading them

So lots of mekanobs

Im kinda working on Tau but I need to read more into the Tau

[orchid lark]

The true magnus

[green loom]

The Mugnus

[green loom]

[green loom]

"The Tyrant of Cthonia"
Finally, a fist that's interesting

[storm jungle]

Damn that sure is a Marine of all time

[green loom]

Apparently unification war vet, brutal nutjob not!world Eater

[celest cedar]

SIBLINGS. Professional is starting to believe in me!!!

[orchid lark]

new primarch revamped model for horus heresy too

its just Sanguinius in a yamcha pose

[rose thorn]

Ong thats the perfect vibe for fists, reminds me of a LoL character

[green loom]

"You're next, whelp"

[rose thorn]

Also these are perfect for a hunting guild CoS army im planning

[rose thorn]

OMFG ACTUAL OLD WORLD MODELS?!?

ALL OF THR RENOWN BOXES ARE FOR AMRIES I WANT LMAO

gw about to take 400 dollars out of my wallet frfr

[orchid thicket]

fr fr no cap thats bussin on god burger king

[crisp heath]

What was the Imperial Truth reasoning explanation for why the Emperor was all powerful if he wasn’t a God?

In 30k

[green loom]

Because he wasn't all powerful back then

And wasn't toted as such

Naturally being an ungodly powerful psyker who's 12 ft tall in golden armour with an unnatural golden glow will make some people fanatics

But most people didn't think of him as a god

[crisp heath]

How did he portray the source of his authority? Just being the most powerful Psyker alive?

[green loom]

Sheer brute force

And knowledge

He didn't unite earth with diplomacy, he made brutal drugged up death machines that massacred anyone that opposed him

[terse flume]

he's portrayed as weirdly anti religious so like

imagine if god kept telling you "i'm not god, stop woshipping me, wtf"

[green loom]

Ye pretty much how the early cults kept popping up

Then there was Keeler and her visions

And Lorgar

Whether or not emps planned it is up for debate

[terse flume]

there were a bunch of factions ruling ruined terra and he united them all with conventional warfare, abet with biological weapon soldiers he explicitly planned to betray. it is kind of unclear how much of this is literally true and how much is propaganda

but like, he's not doing crazy astromonicon shit until he's conquered the galaxy and has the infrastructure for it, he couldn't do it by default

[green loom]

The Propaganda part is the Thunder Warriors dying a glorious death during the final battle to unite earth

[terse flume]

right, you get the implication that the emp is you know, totally willing to brew up self destructive weapon people and betray them when they cease to be useful, and you're supposed to go "and maybe that was the intent with space marines" i think

[green loom]

Ye

[terse flume]

but if that was the plan he probably should have done old horus a smidge quicker

[green loom]

From Horus Rising it seems they were being prepared to adopt civilian life

But for how long that would last is a good question

Since as far as we understand his ultimate goal was to brute force humanity into an ascendant race of super psykers

[terse flume]

he completely failed, which imo is the kind of irony of the imperial truth, like in every sense someone can fail he failed. the emperor had to be come an abstract christ figure cause the actual guy got stabbed by his son and the imperium turned him into the most expensive lighthouse in the galaxy

because they had to, because their empire is literally impossible to contain logistically without the warp and everyone knows it

[arctic talon]

The imperial truth is a lie

That’s sort of the point of it tbh

It’s ultimately based on flawed logic

[terse flume]

someone once told me one of the books had the implication that the emperor was literally christ, and his anti-clericism comes from how all that went down

which is funny if nothing else

[arctic talon]

Tbh

Malcador has several religious books

All chained up

[summer rover]

all about the hamburgler

[arctic talon]

And he says they enslaved people to the convents within

There is a lot of irony to that

[orchid lark]

He was Alexander the Great, Gilgamesh, Christ, and whole bunch of others

[terse flume]

right exactly so is his motivation to cast down all religious worship foundationally tied to the fear these nutso fuckers will nail him to a tree again

[summer rover]

this led to him getting nailed to a chair, so it's not exactly making him look smart.

[celest dome]

Or so he says, think another Eternal say that he was most of the Tyrants of Mankinds history iirc

[orchid lark]

He tried everything essentially

[coarse pumice]

he's utsuro

from gintama

[terse flume]

so he might have been a quasi religious figure that united a bunch of warring peoples and brought glory, like ghengis khan, or he might have been a brutal tyrant who ruled in bloody fear and killed indiscriminately in his expanding empire, like ghengis khan

[arctic talon]

Ye

[celest dome]

Think Ghengis Khan is someone else, became Doomwheel or something, unless the Daemon Prince is an echo of the Emperor at that time

[coarse pumice]

did someone say Doomwheel?

[orchid lark]

Genghis became Doombreed

[celest dome]

We're getting a new Doomweel ?

[plush mason]

so once again Malcador was right

every religious text is nothing more than a yoke for millions

[plush mason]

well if he was ghengis khan then a lot of the humans would be descendants of him lol

[rose thorn]

Funny that some SKAVEN models age like milk while others aged like wine

SKAVEN keeps going in caps :(

[plush mason]

do not question it

[summer rover]

their computer assisted modeling tools can't make propel mail gauntlets still i see.

[plush mason]

looks like splint mail to me

[crystal forum]

why can't primaris marines use rhinos

[orchid lark]

they might be able to do so now

with 10th edition

[plush mason]

watch them get a hover rhino lol

[orchid lark]

the impulsor?

the pickup truck?

[crystal forum]

but why couldn't they

[summer rover]

didn't fit in the old ones

[orchid lark]

because primaris lists were meant to be seperate

and they wanted to sell more stuff with other stuff

[plush mason]

lol

[crystal forum]

i see why lots of people didn't like primaris marines

[storm jungle]

Corpo Moment

[orchid lark]

it took them a while, but finally

fucking finally, Land Raiders can now fit anyone

curiously even Jump Pack troops

make of that what you will

but soon, Rhinos will be usable for everyone

[plush mason]

do the chaos marines have land raiders?

[orchid lark]

because theres no true Rhino equiv for Primaris

Yes Chaos still do

[summer rover]

i mean that was banned in several earlier editions because it led to cheesing, ut go ahead i guess

[orchid lark]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/398170876022882306/1100767111590183005/rhino01.gif

[plush mason]

wtf is that?

[summer rover]

a metal box

[orchid lark]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/858841057772568576/1023757445773922445/caption-9.gif

[crystal forum]

isn't dismounting also being changed

[orchid lark]

Its the Rhino

[orchid lark]

if the vehicle has the assault rule or somethingg

units disembarking can immediately assault

Land Raiders will have this

so 12 assholes can jump out and beat you to a pulp

[plush mason]

is that what they look like now? i have only seen the ones that are a literal box on tracks with a single stormbolter on top lol

[orchid lark]

its the oldest rhino

its from the 2000s

[plush mason]

oh

[orchid lark]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/398170876022882306/1100767111590183005/rhino01.gif

[crystal forum]

wiki also says this is an STC vehicle which again messes with the idea of humanity being more advanced in the day

still more believable than the leman russ being an STC straight from the dark age

[plush mason]

tbf this older rhino looks a hell of a lot more effective than the box one

[crystal forum]

im seeing a pattern of 2000's additions to lore being annoying

[orchid lark]

wait whats the issue here?

[plush mason]

this thing is a box

[orchid lark]

yes

a metal box

look at them hiding in their

Metal Boxes

We

We shall take their Metal Boxes

SSIIINDRII

[crystal forum]

not really much of an issue. just that it isn't really high tech enough to merit being a dark age vehicle instead of something a tech priest assembled together in a garage

[orchid lark]

its still tech

and its pretty protean

like the Leman Russ

[crystal forum]

it's literally just an armoured box

[orchid lark]

that can be a tank

can be an artillery platform

can siege tank

[plush mason]

maybe it is. iirc sometimes a techpriest will invent something then claim its from an STC to avoid persecution

[orchid lark]

can be a command tank

[crystal forum]

yeah and the leman russ also really should not be an STC design

like who tf in the dark age would use that thing

[orchid lark]

look thats what the STC machines spit out

[summer rover]

pretty sure the point of a russ is cheap and easy to maintail tank for garrisons.

[crystal forum]

nah the rhino specifically has a bunch of lore about its ancient origin

[orchid lark]

there is usability in simplicity

[summer rover]

i mean we still see WWII tanks on the field from places where they can't manage better electronics.

[plush mason]

please remember the humans of the dark ages literally made themselves half wolf to survive on Fenris. no one has ever said they where smart back then

[orchid lark]

its a metal box that transfers objects from one field to the next

we havent changed like what

the 1911

and the M2

[crystal forum]

that's ignoring the fact that the leman russ is bursting with electronic systems

[orchid lark]

hell, we still use the same basis of train tracks

[crystal forum]

it's a lot more advanced than it looks

but why does it look like that

[orchid lark]

hell older than that is roads, we still havent changed that

[crystal forum]

it would make sense if the STC was for the systems instead of the tank itself

[orchid lark]

Rhinos got stuff inside

[plush mason]

because GW is British and they wanted to show off the MK 4 lol

[orchid lark]

like the fact it can be outfitted to be other things

like an APC

[summer rover]

no it isn't, what're you trying to complain about?

[orchid lark]

or a Tank

or a siege tank

[summer rover]

are you talking about the chimera?

[orchid lark]

the chimera is also advanced

it can be a tank

it can hold artillery pieces

it swims too

[summer rover]

i think you're confusing "adaptable" with "advanced"

[orchid lark]

and we can shoot out of it

(like the rhino)

[storm jungle]

its also Armored

and a Personnel Carrier

[orchid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-punch-punching-beat-i-will-beat-you-to-death-gif-25117238

[storm jungle]

AA-

[orchid lark]

we call that

an Personal Armoured Carrier

a Pac

the driver being the Pac Man

[storm jungle]

[plush mason]

its more of an IFV

[orchid lark]

Infinite Fallout Vegas

[plush mason]

infantry fighting vehicle lol

[orchid lark]

those are the Anti Tank fighters

I Fight Tanks

I fight Vehicles i mean

IFV

[storm jungle]

this is getting out of hand

[chilly creek]

MICV

[orchid lark]

[crystal forum]

a leman russ has basically everything a modern tank has. a gun stabilizer, targeting systems... it just doesn't have night vision devices except an additional spotlight and stuff like that

[orchid lark]

so does a Predator Tank

which is a Rhino

[storm jungle]

Just

why are you questioning a 40k vehicle

the makers didnt put thought into this shit

they just wanted to put a turret on a WW1 tank

[orchid lark]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/398170876022882306/1100767111590183005/rhino01.gif

[chilly creek]

Probably "What's easy to kitbash?"

[orchid lark]

Jaghatai Khan used one as a skate board

[crimson kayak]

the defining characteristic of the russ is that it lacks advanced tech and can still be just as relaiable

[orchid lark]

this

[storm jungle]

its like the Imperium is backwards or something

[orchid lark]

if this shithole called Atoma Prime can crap out Leman Russes

[storm jungle]

[orchid lark]

good

[summer rover]

it's not like gun stablizers are advanced tech anyways.

[crystal forum]

im stating that i dislike how leman russ is said to be developed in the dark age when it looks so imperial. my headcannon with pre imperial vehicles is that they're nothing like what the imperium uses

[orchid lark]

you what

[storm jungle]

it wasnt developed in the dark age

its not an STC

[crimson kayak]

I mean, it's the future, for what we know there could be a gun stabilizer that uses the gravitational force of black holes to archieve perfect accuracy

[crystal forum]

says who

[storm jungle]

LITERALLY THE LORE

THE LAST SIEGE BOOK SAYS ITS A PIECE OF SHIT TANK

DO I HAVE TO GET THE EXCERPT

[orchid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/tomy-tomas-peaky-plinders-peaky-blinders-gifs-gif-18709783

[summer rover]

nobody is accusing the russ of being highly accurate.

[crystal forum]

i've got a site that says the opposite here so im just confused

[storm jungle]

bro

why are you reading it off there

💀

[crystal forum]

what am i supposed to buy every book and look for it in the pages themselves

[orchid lark]

back in the old days

[plush mason]

yes

[orchid lark]

We used them Malcador Tanks

[storm jungle]

brb

[crimson kayak]

Nono lol, it was just an example that just because we have tech like stabilizers and such, being sci fi there's always gonna be a better, more advanced and complex version

[storm jungle]

And of all the possible tanks to be stuck in, a Leman Russ was probably the worst. People spoke of it as the Pride of the Imperium, the greatest battle tank in human history, the mainstay of the Great Crusade. Was it shit. A Leman Russ was a rolling deathtrap. Its tall profile was so notoriously awful that no commander ever wanted to be squadron leader – the only thing big enough to shield a Leman Russ during operations was another Leman Russ, so better to keep the command unit ahead of you for as long as you could. Its fragile tracks were exposed and its armour was a mess of easy-to-hit vertical planes. The standard pattern sponson-bulges just presented another flat edge to destroy, another reason to be glad not to have them. The interior was noisy and prone to bursting into flames whenever a loader coughed too loudly. And, if you were truly unlucky enough to have those sponsons, there was only one escape hatch, right at the top of the main turret, and so the chances of getting out alive in case of all-too-likely disaster were practically zero.

No, whoever had designed the Leman Russ – Kaska had always assumed it wasn’t actually the primarch of the VI – was a moron. Or a sadist. Or both. The only things it had going for it were cheapness, mechanical reliability and a certain rugged survivability in numbers. The design was so brutally simple that the Imperium was able to churn them out by the million. It mattered less that each individual unit was a study in self-harm when you could overwhelm a battlefield with hundreds of them. And a front-mounted lascannon at least could keep firing as long as its power packs held a charge, which made running out of shells somewhat less of a disaster.

Still, all in all, the crews had few illusions about the tanks they rode into war. Deathboxes, they were called, and homewreckers, and other, earthier, names too. Infantry troopers would occasionally look askance at them, jealous of all that thick armour they had around them, but a Leman Russ tanker knew how fragile it all was really, and how going out to a las-blast was far preferable to being burned alive or buried under a wall of mud or suffocated by trapped engine smoke.

[orchid lark]

what would a dark age tank even look like

[storm jungle]

The only things it had going for it were cheapness, mechanical reliability and a certain rugged survivability in numbers. The design was so brutally simple that the Imperium was able to churn them out by the million

🫴

[crimson kayak]

Also remember that the leman russ can use Any existing fuel

[crystal forum]

this feels like the author shitting on how the leman russ looks

[orchid lark]

this is like the main thing that stayed the same throughout the lore

[storm jungle]

No this is an infantryman knowing what a death-trap is when he sees it

[orchid lark]

ITs crap and our soldiers are crappier, get them out there

[storm jungle]

^

[orchid lark]

I want that field flattened

[crystal forum]

well shit i guess the wiki is useless

[green loom]

There's a reason WW1 tanks were phased out lmao

[orchid lark]

it takes time to edit wikis and the lexicanum

[green loom]

Which one, Lex or Fandom?

[storm jungle]

Is that the 40k wiki

[crystal forum]

please don't yell at me

[storm jungle]

[orchid lark]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/398170876022882306/1100767111590183005/rhino01.gif

[green loom]

Because Fandom is written by, you guessed it

The Fandom

[storm jungle]

The tricky thing is

everything on those pages are copy pasted

but

nobody edits them correctly

go read the Whirlwind page

it repeats the same 3 sentences

[orchid lark]

Lexicanum has like their own scholarly council shit that goes yeah sure, reword that and add it in but cite it

[storm jungle]

in 3 seperate paragraphs

[green loom]

And sometimes someone's so convinced of their headcanon that they add it

[storm jungle]

yeah lexicanum ALWAYS cites

its not great but its something

if you got no source its not getting put in

[summer rover]

it's like i'm listening to a historical gamer complaining about them in person

[orchid lark]

and lexicanum is like so barebones, because they dont want to be wrong

which academically speaking

is correct

[celest dome]

Lexi used to be much worse, but atm it's quite great.

[summer rover]

they don't care about being wrong, half the damn thing is openly misreading shit, they just won't accept that's anything in the lore contradicts itself.

[storm jungle]

Yeah meanwhile the wiki is word by word copy pasted, its why when people ask "Where can I read about Vraks" I just point them at the wiki.

Since they just took the entire forgeworld book and put everything in from it page by page lmao

[orchid lark]

Lexi was worst because a lot of shit just came out and explanations were needed

[green loom]

But then you have shit like this

[storm jungle]

Anarchist

Still uses Hierarch as a title

no wonder they got kicked out

[crystal forum]

wait no this literally reads like the author glanced at a leman russ model and decided to shit on it. it states that there's only one escape hatch when there's doors on the side

[storm jungle]

😔

[green loom]

There's a reason the Fandom wiki has more shit than most official chapters

While Lex has like

[orchid lark]

those are sponsons

[green loom]

2 sentences

[summer rover]

half of that description is stuff never written into the damn books.

[storm jungle]

this book came out last year so yeah

[orchid lark]

this chapter was referenced in this. Thats it. bye

[crystal forum]

no the sponson mount only hides one door. also a sponson isn't a door lol

[green loom]

It's literally citing Fantasy lore lmfao

Because as I've probably mentioned before

[crystal forum]

i also thought the amount of hatches was low until i saw the side doors

[green loom]

The Mouth breathers see that Malal and Malice share a whole 3 letters

So they just mash the lore together

[crystal forum]

the baneblade on the other hand has a shit ton of hatches, even on the bottom for escaping

[plush mason]

Malal was removed from the lore due to legal issues over who owned him

[green loom]

Ok this is annoying me now lmao

"Choice deity of veteran players"

[orchid lark]

yeah Losers

[green loom]

Mfker had a whole 1 line of lore

[orchid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/xdding-gif-26519990

[crystal forum]

the wiki? yeah some pages feel written by 1 person vomiting their headcannon

[summer rover]

it's funny because the fantasy lore isn't even pretending there's confusion, malal hates the other chaos gods because their existing makes him exist and he wants to destroy the order in chaos so he can finally die.

[vocal drum]

can anyone explain the context of this || https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXvKIyobJ8E || who are the mosquitto army?

possible spoilers maybe

[storm jungle]

they are tau battlesuits

[orchid lark]

Tau

[vocal drum]

are they actually tiny?

oh

[storm jungle]

no

LMAO

[orchid lark]

no

[vocal drum]

lol

[storm jungle]

Thats a fucking titan

[orchid lark]

the titan

is moderately sized

[storm jungle]

DID YOU THOUGHT THAT WAS A PERSON

[vocal drum]

well

[orchid lark]

I mean

it kinda is

[storm jungle]

[orchid lark]

like

[storm jungle]

aaaAA-

[vocal drum]

is it ? lol

[plush mason]

nah he had a whole comic about him and his champion and thats where the legal problems came from lol

[storm jungle]

NO

ITS A GIANT ROBOT

[vocal drum]

sorry lol

[storm jungle]

im joking its fine

its a funny mistake tho

[summer rover]

titans alre like 200 stories tall most of the time

[orchid lark]

but one story book tho

[storm jungle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/745324840097153167/1013152232356724766/unknown.png

[green loom]

For comparison

[storm jungle]

they are true units

[vocal drum]

OKY nvm lol

[orchid lark]

every faction has a titan too

except Tau

haha

idiots

[storm jungle]

yeah tau just have metal gears

[vocal drum]

is there a titan tier list which race has the "strongest"?

titans

[orchid lark]

"why build one giant thing, its so inefficient, stupid humans."

[storm jungle]

Eldar, Imperium and Necrons are the strongest

[green loom]

Only imps and chaos really use titans

[orchid lark]

"what do you mean one titan unloaded everything and beat us."

[green loom]

At least to that scale

[crystal forum]

pictured: somebody's college fund

[celest dome]

Gib us the Tau Biotitan Auxilliary

[green loom]

Most of the other races find smaller and more effective ways to do the same shit lmao

[storm jungle]

Yeah lmao

also like

titans are very open targets too

the moment you take out their escort they are pretty much fucked

[green loom]

The Tau didn't bother with titans, they jury rigged massive ships to fly in atmosphere to kill them

[orchid lark]

except the Tau found bigger things are needed because Tyranids werent giving a shit

[storm jungle]

someone post the tyranid bio-titan

with its skinny ass booty

[orchid lark]

spoiler alert to Attack on Titan

[plush mason]

just nuke them from orbit like the warmaster did lol

[storm jungle]

or that yeah lmao

[storm jungle]

there it is

doing the leg split

[crystal forum]

don't forget that imperators basically don't have a height limit

[storm jungle]

They do tbh

they arent size of mountains

[crystal forum]

i wish

[orchid lark]

some of them can take the punishment

with their void shields

[storm jungle]

not when the rounds they get hit with are Plotlas

[orchid lark]

whether they have power to counter attack is another thing

[vocal drum]

thanks for the info again lol

[celest dome]

Plotlas ?

[plush mason]

the strongest weapon in 40k. plot

[celest dome]

Oh, make sense

[storm jungle]

yeee

[orchid lark]

its called Horus lifting his Mace

[storm jungle]

its laser made of Plotarmorium

[orchid lark]

and summoned his Obibital bombardment

[green loom]

POV, weakest Imperial Army soldiers

[crystal forum]

titans are treated like individually they're distinct and super precious but then you see stories that pit armies of them against eachother and dying all the time

[storm jungle]

that woman yelling her lungs out on the right is my spirit

[vocal drum]

who are those human soldiers fighting?

[orchid lark]

they can be repaired

[storm jungle]

Chaos.

[orchid lark]

the mosquito swatters

[storm jungle]

this is the Siege of Terra™️

[green loom]

Imperial Army troops in the Siege of Terra

Those are the poor sops dumped into the Palace to hold the palisades

[vocal drum]

thats gotta be the worst job ever being in the guard ur literally cannon fodder

[crystal forum]

lmao she looks like she's yelling into a single guy's ears

[vocal drum]

wtf

facing off against chaos with basic armor/guns lol

[storm jungle]

yeah the Siege is wild

in the last book

TITANS ARE CRUCIFIED ON WALLS

[orchid lark]

those titans are a kilometer away

theres troops with them

[green loom]

Meanwhile angry ron

[orchid lark]

you can hold a bunch of people in the legs of some titans

[vocal drum]

so did those dudes win or lose that fight, what happened

[storm jungle]

me stepping into #general-chat

[green loom]

They're all dead

[crystal forum]

wait is that die irae

[vocal drum]

RIP..

[celest dome]

Knee height Knight

[green loom]

Think it's supposed to be yeah

[storm jungle]

you could say its a

Kneeight

[orchid lark]

not so angry when Sanguinius just Kwisatz Haderach his way to beating Angron

oh you cant use that word

its their word

@/mods report this person

[storm jungle]

Okay so you joke

someone actually did that to angron in his new book

lmao

[orchid lark]

i mean yeah

[green loom]

Did what

[orchid lark]

Sang did

he just

[storm jungle]

Grey Knights used his True Name and he fucking DIED

[orchid lark]

Duned everyone

[storm jungle]

Well temporarily

[orchid lark]

oh yeah that too

[plush mason]

i didnt even see them at first lol

[orchid lark]

See you in Eight months everyone says Angron

[storm jungle]

"See you later guys, was fun" says Angron

he then respawns and the Lion kills him again

[green loom]

Is the Emperor alive in our current day as Dark Brandon?

[storm jungle]

[celest dome]

Same as me, had to takke a better look

[storm jungle]

all I know is

Big E created r/atheist

[orchid lark]

nah its Dark Kamala

[storm jungle]

the prototype imperial truth

[crystal forum]

wait so is angron dead for good

[terse flume]

this kind of reads like someone who wrote Deathtraps about ww2 tanks

[green loom]

No

[storm jungle]

Nah

[green loom]

He comes back every 8 etc. etc.

[storm jungle]

daemon primarchs can respawn

[crystal forum]

god fucking damn it why can't we have nice things

[storm jungle]

because loyalists suck

[orchid lark]

8 years and 8 months, 8 weeks, and 8 days

[celest dome]

No, when he die he goes to the warp and respawn after 8 weeks, 8 days, 8 hours, 8 minutes...

[orchid lark]

and then he comes back

[storm jungle]

and gets his ass kicked

repeat

[orchid lark]

i like how we know its 8 something

but cant remember the full date

[green loom]

Flashback to Perturabo utterly trashing his ass like a used towel

[storm jungle]

it cant be as bad as mortarion

[green loom]

Neither will GW I guarantee you

[storm jungle]

who died like 10 times now

[terse flume]

where, the people operating the sherman tanks wound up having extremely negative viewpoints on them, americans specifically, in part because of books like deathtraps but just generally, everyone thought they were bad

[plush mason]

Khorn be hella hooked on that number 8

[crystal forum]

how the fuck do imperials feel like any of their battles have value when demons can't die

[orchid lark]

Perturabo losing to Mortarion, after realising Iron can Rust "hmm I didnt think this through."

[terse flume]

in particular the people who worked on repairs thought they were terrible

[green loom]

See they don't know that

[terse flume]

because they often would be exposed to the most catastophic failures

it was survivorship bias but inverted

[orchid lark]

i mean daemons can DIE die

[crystal forum]

did the 13 black crusades not hint it a bit

[orchid lark]

but those bald bitches gotta wake up and do something

[green loom]

Imagine those guys with German tanks

[orchid lark]

instead of polishing each others heads

[green loom]

Most humans don't have multi millenia long lifespans

You could go your entire life here without seeing a black crusade

[crystal forum]

im talking about the astartes here

[green loom]

Things settle down, horrors fade into myth until the defenders are violently shaken up

[terse flume]

an overwhelming majority of the cheap, cheerful and good enough tanks which for sure won the war did what they were supposed to, and that might have been "be in the field with five buddies so that the axis tanks don't risk one of their idiotically expensive tanks"

[green loom]

They're conditioned and brainwashed

And mentally very strong

[orchid lark]

theyre used to it

its what they do johny

[storm jungle]

also like

[green loom]

And in general the Imperium isn't out to "win"

[storm jungle]

it was only Sigismund who went

"Guys these crusades are kinda bad"

dies in the first one

⚰️

[orchid lark]

he didnt do it right

[green loom]

He was like over a thousand by then at least

[storm jungle]

He was a fucking boomer

he had it coming

[plush mason]

the sherman had poor armor and a gas engine. one round would turn it into a funeral pyre. its why the us tankers called it the Rosson after the lighter

[storm jungle]

[terse flume]

that's the line, yeah

very poorly supported by primary evidence, there are good scholarship around it countering it

[orchid lark]

wake those Culexus assassins up, and we get to strike fear into those Daemons

[green loom]

Imagine being in a T34

"Yuri get the sledge hammer, we need to turn on the intersection!"

[storm jungle]

U.S Governments Not Giving a Shit About Their Soldiers my beloved ❤️

[crystal forum]

bro are you trying to start an arm chair tanker war

[green loom]

WW2 tanks just

Sucked ass let's be real lmao

[terse flume]

people think of them as weirdly foreign but they have a ford american suspension if i recall

[green loom]

The Christie

VERY common now

As I understand anyway

The US didn't want it so the guy went and sold it to the Soviets lol

[plush mason]

imagine being in any Russian tank. as bad as the sherman had it it was loads better than the t34 lol

[terse flume]

well, and bringing it back to that primary source of a fantasy space man complaining about their fantasy space tank

the things you need in a tank that wins wars and the things you need to make tanks that would make tankers optimally happy do not align

[green loom]

Nah bro we may have lost more T34s than the entire german war time economy produced over 6 years but they're amazing tanks with no faults!

[storm jungle]

Im waiting for that one guy with a Space Marine pfp watching this chat right now whos about to say the German Tiger or Russian tanks were epitomes of engineering and totally not being a closeted fascist

🫵

Yes, you. Im watching you.

[green loom]

Hi

Wait

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-infinity-war-im-sorry-little-one-gif-12454554

[crystal forum]

you have no idea how much restraint im showing

[plush mason]

lol

[orchid lark]

wait what

restraint at what

hold on

[crystal forum]

not the fascist part

[orchid lark]

let him cook

oh okay

[green loom]

German tanks broke down like no tomorrow and were underpowered, T34s had fkn dinner plate armour, and the others just mass produced everything

[orchid lark]

here I thought we were gonna have some uh

interesting times

[green loom]

Hey I just have the marine profile pic

[orchid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/cursed-hello-kitty-balloon-hello-kitty-cursed-hello-kitty-gif-25292381

[storm jungle]

Any other server a mod would have just went

https://tenor.com/view/general-chat-meme-discord-moderator-gif-19708760

but i dont like being a party pooper so

[orchid lark]

the other server mod would be talkting to someone younger

[storm jungle]

NOOOO

[crystal forum]

shots fired

[green loom]

lmao

[storm jungle]

[terse flume]

it comes back to how you evaluate the overall objectives of a piece of equipment. it's very possible to make the best equipment and lose to the other guy who made quite a bit more of lower quality equipment

[orchid lark]

i hate to say it

but literally every month

we get one damn case

[terse flume]

quantity has a quality of it's own, as they say

[plush mason]

in ww2 it was as followed. italian tanks sucked. german tanks would break down if you looked at them wrong. american/british tanks where inbetween the first 2 and the russian tanks where the same but way overhyped

[orchid lark]

this youtuber is pedo, this mod is a groomer

it literally never stops

[storm jungle]

I hate it honestly

[rose thorn]

Excuse me what happened?!?

[storm jungle]

Jokes aside we are just fooling around

i made uh

"people who defend german tanks are fascist" joke

[orchid lark]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-40k-warhammer-darktide-gif-26929721

[terse flume]

so maybe leeman russ battle tanks are by design death traps

because the imperium does not value human life

[storm jungle]

YES LETS GO BACK TO THE LEMAN RUSS GUYS

[rose thorn]

Oh yeah I was in a sever before the guy got leaked and nuked all hsi stuff

[green loom]

Someone was calling me a "Braindead tankie who slurps commie propaganda" in meme chat

[storm jungle]

actually wait i need to google something

[storm jungle]

Yeah that guy got banned

[plush mason]

true. to tall and to slow

[rose thorn]

“But he built the railroads”

[green loom]

Really?

[storm jungle]

Was it the guy with the ultramarine pfp

[terse flume]

or maybe they're death traps because that's the optimimum route to making a hundred billion of the things and shooting them at taus

[crystal forum]

i'm going to say you're simplifying 6 years of war to a ridiculous degree

[green loom]

I can't remember honestly lmao, I don't spend much time thinking about guys like that

[storm jungle]

Yeah hes gone lmao

[plush mason]

that was kind of the point lol

[green loom]

But I just said like

[orchid lark]

I blocked a lot of the ai apologists and artists ai people

i dont know what happened with most of them

[rose thorn]

Wasn’t there a guy who thoguht ww2 artillery would beat necrons?

[green loom]

"German tanks sucked"
"Ok commie"
"Russian tanks also suck"
"Tankie moron"

[storm jungle]

god

[storm jungle]

Yeah that guy is gone lmao

[green loom]

My favourite claim is

"A Death Korps regiment could beat the entire Iron Warriors Legion in an open field"

[crystal forum]

to be fair, enough high explosives can win any war

[green loom]

Good riddance

[storm jungle]

in 40k human vs human conflicts can go any way yeah

[terse flume]

i remember vaugely there being a period where 40k fans were defensive that people weren't doing the new sci fi hotness in planetary destruction of chuckin asteroids and such, and then they did it with cadia

[storm jungle]

it entirely depends on the battlefield and equipment

[rose thorn]

‘Comparing warhammer 40k to modern history virgin’ vs ‘comparing warhammer 40k to medieval/ancient history chad’

[green loom]

Marines can die to wooden spears

[orchid lark]

both love Krieg and Black Templars

[plush mason]

that battle is just a matter of what runs out first. the iron warrior's ammo or the DKOK's bodies

[crystal forum]

marines are consistently always dying to the dumbest shit

[green loom]

It's a single regiment, so I'd bet on the bodies running out

[storm jungle]

GET EM

[terse flume]

also i am noticing, thinking about it

[plush mason]

same

[terse flume]

that leman sounds an awful lot like sherman

[orchid lark]

how many times must I say it

[crystal forum]

writers love killing unnamed marines that the main character witnesses for the gore aspect

[rose thorn]

There was a khorne CSM lord who singlehanded murdered everyone in a warlord titan

[orchid lark]

Space Marines are Lobsters

[green loom]

Sure man

[rose thorn]

While he was having a stroke

[storm jungle]

OH YEAH

thats in the new codex

very funny

[orchid lark]

Lobsters?

[rose thorn]

Yeee

[green loom]

I love how

[storm jungle]

No you buffoon

[green loom]

This thing popped up like 2 years ago

[rose thorn]

I like how fuckibg depressing the world eaters codex is

[green loom]

And has not been mentioned since

[storm jungle]

OH YEAH

I legit forgot it exists

[green loom]

I mean

[crystal forum]

look at the rogal dorn heavy tanks. gives me pershing vibes

[green loom]

It looks amazing

[rose thorn]

WHAT THR FUCK IS THAT

[orchid lark]

he looks like he forget he exists

[green loom]

That's the "Warmaster"

[orchid lark]

i dont know how

[rose thorn]

Also the most used forgeworld imperial knight is now plastic

[orchid lark]

but he looks like he has dementia

[storm jungle]

same

[green loom]

Pretty big boy

[terse flume]

the worst, and by extremely, extremely far the funniest was when someone showed me how they named Japan Planet

[orchid lark]

wait wheres Revolver Titan

[terse flume]

no wait was it fantasy?

[orchid lark]

wait what

[crystal forum]

is that the model that's always unavailable on forge world

[green loom]

It was fantasy

[storm jungle]

Nippon?

[rose thorn]

He looks like he’s gonna sell me a 40k vape

[orchid lark]

Japan Planet

[storm jungle]

with Clan Toyota?

[green loom]

The East in fantasy was funny

"Nippon"
"Ind"
and "Cathay"

[terse flume]

where they did lore of like, Japan Continent and literally all the names were 80s names of japanese export companies

[storm jungle]

YES

[terse flume]

yes

[storm jungle]

GOD

[crystal forum]

the what

[storm jungle]

the racism in that shit was insane

[green loom]

They had racist archetypes for units

[plush mason]

for me the funniest tank story in ww2 is the Lee. for the US it was named after General Lee but when they sold it to the british they renamed it the Grant because the british didnt want to drive a tank named for a confederate general

[green loom]

Like the naked ashigaru

[storm jungle]

[orchid lark]

its not racism if he did it with the utmost respect to the japanese hes never met or interacted with

[terse flume]

i was thinking of japan continenent in fantasy, sorry

[orchid lark]

no japanese person is insulted by it if theyve never seen it

[terse flume]

me and my sensei Nintendo Samsung need to rush to the Karaoke Penninsula

[crystal forum]

i love seeing period photos of tank lines and the Lee's are always at the back of the sherman formations because they were dog shit but americans had to use them lol

[orchid lark]

he's five steps ahead of no one

[green loom]

are you guys excited to see

[storm jungle]

average 80's british writer

[green loom]

Traitor Black Templars

[storm jungle]

I am

[green loom]

The cope is going to be wondrous

[plush mason]

yeah

[storm jungle]

that excerpt is gonna make so many people mad

[plush mason]

good

[orchid lark]

theyre called Soul Drinkers

[green loom]

I know a guy who kitbashed one already

I'm gonna draw i t

[storm jungle]

based

[orchid lark]

Evil Black Templars be like, the Codex is good

[green loom]

And then I'm going to do something non 40k in case someone irl finds my sketch books and thinks I've turned into some neo fascist

[plush mason]

hold up now. lets not get too crazy

[orchid lark]

Evil Black Templars be like, the Psyker can live

[crystal forum]

im still trying to make the darktide demolisher russ

[green loom]

Evil Black Templars be like "Psykers are useful and I will NOT massacre someone for having longer legs"

[orchid lark]

Evil Dilara be like, I wont pull out an excerpt from a book

[crystal forum]

for some god forsaken reason the in game leman russ has sponsons with multimeltas but they look different to the ones you get in russ kits

[orchid lark]

its cause theyre Atoman Pattern

[crystal forum]

so i'll have to edit it myself

[green loom]

Ottoman pattern

[orchid lark]

As the Emperor intended

[crystal forum]

ok you're making words up

[orchid lark]

it has a kebab grill at the back

[summer rover]

it might!

[shadow plover]

What's this about traitor black templars? New shit?

[orchid lark]

the Leman Russes made in Atoma Prime

[crystal forum]

where is that

[orchid lark]

Atoma Prime?

[green loom]

Old shit now, Fleet Quartus or whatever had Black Templars

[orchid lark]

The Place in Darktide?

[crystal forum]

yeah

[orchid lark]

where we fight

[crystal forum]

oh shit it's called atoma?

[orchid lark]

Reject, where do you think we've been fighting

[crystal forum]

wait what world are we even fighting in? what kind of hive world has leman russ factories

[shadow plover]

Oh that, the one in Dawn of Fire?

[green loom]

Got the murder curse, now apparently there's a force of those guys who've crudely organized into a warband along with some other marines, knights, admech and guard and are rampaging

[orchid lark]

Leman Russes are so shit, any industrial world and hive world can build them

[green loom]

When you think about it it makes sense, BT are already blood thirsty assholes this just slightly nudged them into acting on their teamkiller instincts

[crystal forum]

you know i never really questioned what hive worlds do

[orchid lark]

they make me miserable

[green loom]

clears throat
G R I M D A R K

Also factories

[orchid lark]

what if we stacked zone 1 london on top of itself ad infinitum

theres PISS everywhere

[green loom]

God anything but Londoners

[crystal forum]

i thought their chief export was guardsmen, organized crime and konrad curze

[summer rover]

russ are a good design if your goal is to have the tanks posted at an entrenched fire line. turret is high up enough you can guard the main body of the tank with the fortifications and fire the cannon freely. for some reason, people run them like armored cavalry.

[green loom]

Because there's lots of them

.

[vocal drum]

um question if ur about to kil a tyranid then u just shout out to it "hivemind speak to me" will it return back to you or do you have to be someone important

[urban spire]

the leman russ is a big box that doesn't die to small arms and can kill basically anything, depending on the variant

that's what it's meant to do

[green loom]

It'll jump on and eat you because it's a more coordinated feral monster that functions 99% on instinct

[vocal drum]

and by return i mean return speech back to you

[crystal forum]

i like that it's bursting with guns because in the 40th millenium you aren't worrying about one hit kills

[orchid lark]

why are we still talking about the blasted Leman Russ

[crystal forum]

i love the leman russ

[summer rover]

tyranids don't talk to their food, and everyone is food

[vocal drum]

oh i thought like the hivemind controls it all at once quadrillions of them

[urban spire]

leman russ <3

[crystal forum]

the only people i see who shit on leman russes are 16 year olds who want it to look more german

[orchid lark]

we call them krieg players

[green loom]

They ARE the hivemind, and the hivemind isn't talkative, and also they'd only really communicate psychically and whenever a psyker tends to encounter anything related to nids that's psychic, they tend to die or go insane so take that as you will

[urban spire]

ww2 german tanks suck shit

[summer rover]

i see old farts do it all the time, mostly to show off how much they know about tank design. like, we all know about sloping, it's just cool to look at dork.

[urban spire]

the only tank designs i like to see from real life are the wild-ass cheese wedge swedish spgs

[crystal forum]

i like the leman russ specifically because of how stupid it is

it's not meant to look subtle

[green loom]

I like STUGs and Leopards and British Cruiser tanks

[crystal forum]

"this thing will kill you"

[vocal drum]

@green loomcan i ask one more question

[summer rover]

the world's most overcompensating cannon design.

[vocal drum]

can i link something

[green loom]

Idk probably

[vocal drum]

ima mark spoiler then just hit play its about what u said before

they tend to die or go insane so take that as you wil"

[orchid lark]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/398170876022882306/1100767111590183005/rhino01.gif

[crystal forum]

you know what tank i really don't like? the rogal dorn

like where did it come from

[orchid lark]

A factory probably

[crystal forum]

it looks too normal

[green loom]

Some intern's ass

Who happens to be a history buff

[crystal forum]

at least it has a stupid amount of guns

[urban spire]

what are those IG armoured cars called?

i'm not a big fan of those

[copper patrol]

Tuarox?

[orchid lark]

Chimeras?

[crystal forum]

weshammer

[vocal drum]

he was looking at the hivemind no?

[urban spire]

chimeras are tracked, taurox sounds right

[orchid lark]

Salamander Recon Vehicles

[crystal forum]

they're 4 tracked lol

[green loom]

You mean Tigurius?

[vocal drum]

yes!

[green loom]

Because he's one of the strongest psykers currently alive

And even he barely managed

[vocal drum]

wait so he was looking at the "main" hivemind? da god of the tyranids?

[green loom]

Note most psykers go nuts just from the PRESENCE of the nids

[urban spire]

armoured cars are a different category of thing than a tracked vehicle, even if there's multiple tracks

[green loom]

If you look at a hivemind, you're looking at ALL the nids

[crystal forum]

no the taurox literally has 4 small tracks

[green loom]

It's why it's so bad

[vocal drum]

oh

[urban spire]

oh

not the taurox then

[orchid lark]

it be the Shadow of the Warp

[green loom]

It's one of those eldritch things

Massive in scope, incomprehensible, maddening

[vocal drum]

i thought tyranids were like sc2 that one girl is in control of them all

[urban spire]

isn't there an IG armoured car? i swear there was

[green loom]

No

[orchid lark]

vroom

[green loom]

The "Hivemind" is ALL the Tyranids

[crystal forum]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/6/60/Taurox01.png/revision/latest?cb=20140914113414

[vocal drum]

ty

[urban spire]

ok that is pretty dumb tho

[crystal forum]

it's funny though

[copper patrol]

some pf them do have wheels iirc

[shadow plover]

Taurox cool

[copper patrol]

or those might be conversions