#40k-lore-chat

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SARDURKAR GANG

orchid lark
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coarse pumice
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Admech were like the Tech Men from Foundation

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Though many things owe to Foundation

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16 hours to warhammer fest

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She retreated to Tunisia and sulked there like a coward until the consequences of her actions came to her in the form of Erebus

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Big mistake. Ah well, every major character in the lore has had their L's

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grandbaby erebus

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she tried, Big E was a dipshit, and left

orchid thicket
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shes just a pointless character

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Sure, but for all the brutality of the Emperor's Great Crusade he saved many human lives by lifting people out of the post-apocalyptic states of their worlds

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He didnt save anyone.

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None of the human civilizations the Imperium met wanted to be "rescued", most of them were doing fine before they were slaughtered for resisting lol

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the Emperor is just a guy with a big stick, the entire point of the Last Church book was this.

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It's all for a "greater good" that he screwed up getting too lmao

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Says as much in one of the Ra books, checkmate

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I beg to differ, because the fact is he managed to conquer the entire galaxy for mankind, creating a state that had unlimited potential

green loom
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Hardly the entire galaxy

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There's human offshoots they never got to, entire regions of space uncharted

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It's not a normal sci-fi setting - several human civilizations were tainted by Chaos even before the GC reached them

green loom
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1 million worlds is actually not that much in a galaxy

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^

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also "several"

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several human civilizations were also untained

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and just chilling

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and they were massacred for resisting lol

celest dome
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So much potential that was squandered by him

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Pro tip: Might does not make right

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Well He's not perfect

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Thats one way of putting it.

celest dome
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A tame way to put it

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But between an Imperium that may or may not stay tyrannical or a galaxy full of pocket human kingdoms that'd be brutal in their own ways, especially with Chaos mucking about, it was damned if He did or damned if He didn't either way

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He tried to play god with imperfect precognition against primordial entities that transcend time and are also not bound by the same rules he is

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^

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and

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the Emperor himself outright says humanity is doomed

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and so the Imperium

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and its all his fault

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lmao

copper patrol
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Yeah it was a hail mary and it failed horribly

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Woops

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Yep.

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real oopsie daisy moment right there

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But yeah again you can like the Imperium, they are cool. Just dont try to defend fascist ideals

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or just any evil ideals really

green loom
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And idk the interex and those other human remnants looked to be fine

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Votann too

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Yeah they were lmao

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OH YEAH I FORGOT THE VOTANN

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They are te prime example where uh

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you know

green loom
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you dont need to enslave your entire population

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or use slave labour

green loom
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The Interex were giga paranoid granted but so are the imps

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Yeah thats entirely fair on that part

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The Interex also put a very potent Chaos artifact in a publicly accessible museum so they weren't very smart either

green loom
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Horus may have basically doomed humanity after being stabbed but he DID try diplomacy before that

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They knew what it was and what it could do

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Imperials didnt

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Yeah they weren't expecting them to do something that stupid

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But Erebus was with the fleet so

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Its a museum, where you go to learn things

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from out of nowhere

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erbus

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Imperials aint know shit

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with the something that stupid

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"What is chaos. Me dont get it."

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aged like fine milk

orchid thicket
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orchid lark
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just not interfere

green loom
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lol

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Interex when they hear that Horus used warp travel

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He has questionably made humanity as a race worse

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humans die more to their own race than anything else

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He had choices like so many

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It all failed

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^

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The other perpetuals hated him for doing it

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Thats the point

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Because if he stays passive

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So does chaos and stuff

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You literally cannot control all those variables

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Humanity didn't need His meddling to collapse before he even made the Imperium

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He instigated MASSIVE galactic stuff that gave everything a chance to act and make things worse

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Its hubris

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So instead of letting everything play out naturally, he bloated up everything until it hit critical mass and imploded

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Much like most overwatch teammates, you can not cure stupidity

celest dome
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ngl tho, the whole perpetual illuminati thing is dumb to me but idk much about it

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He even gave each chaos god their own hyper powerful champion that can act in the material world

orchid thicket
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Well see the problem is

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The artifical part spawned the imperium lol

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The Emperor is obsessed with safeguarding humanity from Chaos and considering his actions felt like he was under extreme time pressure to accomplish his goals

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Or its just bad writing

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"Extreme time pressure"
Meanwhile he's immortal

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Yeah, and he was wrong

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to most weird ass things in 40k

orchid thicket
orchid lark
celest dome
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He was not half as smart as he though he was

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But if the Emperor didn't make mistakes, we wouldn't have the grimdark future we'd all love to be in

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No we would have a shittier franchise instead

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Its called Star Trek

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we'd all love to be in
Nope, no, non, no thank you, nada, neine..

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"Why didnt the Emperor rescue Angron"

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"You see this DAOT device is attached to his spine, no can do"

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meanwhile

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Erases a man completely with his hand

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Can change his form to anything at will

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etc etc etc every mary sue power

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has technology on terran vaults that are from the dark age of technology

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LITERALLY

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30k unfortunately suffers a lot from the fact that "the Heresy has to happen"

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"it's too deep in his brain😔 "

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has someone who COULD PROBABLY FIX Angrom but is hiding in tunisia

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Lmao

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Im sorry Little Ang

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She helped design the fucking bastards

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Thing is

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The primarchs went to Terra for protocol training

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like if he was that fucked up, just kill him or something idkKEKW_ogryn that woulda made more sense

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Erda meeting Angron would have been a great moment, not even to heal him, but to see what she would think of what happened to him

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Unfortunately

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Doesnt matter

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The technology in the vaults werent late

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if her being added causes this problem maybe that;s another case

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of le bad writing, but I know nothing about her

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Again, the labs in the Hilmalayas

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They can still make starships

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And terraform planets

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Dan Abnett, while a good writer, has a tendency to add random things that just
Really shouldn't be there

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If the emperor could just give Corax the super speedy space marine build codes

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He couldve done something

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A psyker that deals in Daemon Hosts

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The Helican Subsector

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Yeah but Inquisitors regularly move around

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can't you like

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changes what ordo you are

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KINDA

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You can

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But like you can still investigate any matter you wish

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Technically it's all labling from us

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its how Eisenhorn is Xenos but always deals with Chaos

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Inquisitors are WAAAAY More freeform than people give them credit for

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It was a xenos issue in the first book

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Just with the Puritan/Radical dynamic

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But still Chaos

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lmao

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life really is a bitch

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Eisenhorn was also being groomed for a comfy desk job and also owned properties in the Helican subsector

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So you could call it a case of laziness

copper patrol
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Yeah thats just lame memes

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Inquisitors are way more interesting when you ground them

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also their job is hella bad and depressing

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Amberley Vail was quite nicely written

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Same with the forgeworld ones

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And make them anything other than trigger happy teamkillers, which is what politicians and commissars fill

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I mean comissars are also not trigger happy teamkillers

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Vail is the inquisitor with the nicest personality I've seen so far, though Lord Rorken comes 2nd in a grandfatherly way

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at least the good ones aren't

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Unless you are one of those comic book villain inquisitors you are basically gonna live most of your life with guilt or just suck it up and try to remain stalwart for your "job"

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Yeah the good ones don't die

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The bad ones do and there's always more of them

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^

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military chain of command is kinda shitty

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who coulda thunk

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That are otherwordly

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And rely pretty much on guess work alone to be noticed

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Chaos' greatest power is the ability to spread itself through thoughts alone

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and with very little supporting structures and systems

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Basically need nerves of steel or you'll just cave in

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To be fair

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the Imperium does half of chaos' job

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Meaning free speech is a security threat whatthefuck_heresy

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When you treat your populace so shit half your population is gonna start cults

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True but even the well-off get sucked into Chaos anyway because it's human nature to be fallible

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Eh it depends

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It really is Mankind's archenemy

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theres a reason GSC/Chaos dont prosper too well on stuff like tau worlds

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its the same reason why its cringe when people say paradise worlds are great

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Yeah for rich people

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And rich people are

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Notoriously

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You know

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Well the Tau are an authoritarian surveillance state so they can check for non-conformity very quickly

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Eccentric, glutonous

green loom
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like when things stay the same

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etc

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or want more power

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"You ask for extra rations the arbites will break your knees"

orchid thicket
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Because there are too many people

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basically the only cult rich people wouldn't make sense in is khorne for most worlds

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when you spend your entire life as a abused slave you will always search for an escape

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I also like the idea of reducing Chaos to merely being "exoplanar xenos"

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Which is true

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Vampires whatthefuck_heresy

copper patrol
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They just act like daemons because they're a mirror to the dark parts of the soul

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Oh god theres a quote for this

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brb

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They want to destroy the galaxy because that is what daemons do, not because it benefits them

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"Blood is for the blood god. Not for drinking."

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warhammer fantasy i love u ❤️

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The current state of the galaxy is what benefits Chaos the most since it's eternal conflict

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Also yeah that was the Cabal's plan

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They really are mindless

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chaos is self destructive

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its why the End Times were stupid af since chaos destroys their food source

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but they made the excuse that this always happens like they are stuck in a time loop

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which is uhhhhh

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wasn't that archeon plans tho?

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According to Phil Kelly, their food source doesn't matter thumbsup_ogryn

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They'll just

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Go to another dimension or something

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rather then let chaos actually win he'd just destroy everything

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Uhhh its mixed

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Archeon is so based

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because the writing for it was just so shit

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also he is

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🙏

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fair enough

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He's like a better written Abby

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also

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daily

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Chaos warriors > CSM

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lemme grab the meme

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Hold on I have an image for this

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Smhhhh

copper patrol
green loom
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Im sorry guys i had to

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can we pin that

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lmao

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Chaos Warriors are very aesthetically pleasing

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copper patrol
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Chaos Marines couldve been better designed

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AAA all the pins in this channel are from me, thats cringe

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But nope

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What if we just add more rivets

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And weird curls and spikes

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some flayed skin here and there

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horns

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boom

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chaos marine

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maybe, the chaos dwarves had the right idea

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Thank god for like the seperate legions stuff

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A Chaos Warrior is what you see on the cover of a Finnish Black Metal album

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A Chaos Space Marine is the saturday night bad guy on a kids' show

green loom
orchid thicket
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Punkcyber my beloved

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Like this - this is good

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Karl Kopenski my beloved

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I like the style Dabanaworks uses

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Clean but not cartoonishly so

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Chaos Marines should just be kitbashed space marines at this point

celest dome
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I mean that's generally what they are but you need unique models to sell to get MORE money

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The chaos termies look great

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this is peak CSM aesthetic

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god

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Lewis Jones my love

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im gonna be so sad when he leaves

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also before we move on from Karl Kopenski

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I liked Miguel's works for Darktide

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Oh yeah, that's good

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He made the giga armoured Ogryn

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I dont even blame them for stealing that helmet design

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its great

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The only legion that works good with current chaos space marines stuff is word bearers, im gonna say it. It looks better on them

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I like that chainsword as well

shadow plover
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genuinely

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i recommend everyone here to go look at his Portfolio

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Is he the one that adds random rings to everything?

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I like to think he died of sepsis from that mark he made for himself

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tbh regular chaos cultists(mainly guard ones) are way more interesting then csm

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did he do the CSM codex cover art?

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Lewis? Yeah

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like bloodpact? chads

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basically the way to tell its him is the SPIKES

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one of my favourites

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he fucking adds them EVERYWHERE

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plus the GSC cover

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need more stuff like the bloodpact

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I don't remember who made some of the AoS art

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But they added rings to everything

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Just sticking out of random surfaces

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Oh yeah also one of my favs:

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that guardsman

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AUGGHHHH-

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Axe head Mcgee

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Since when did the Imperial Guard have anti-tank guided missiles?

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Look at him and tell me if his god loves him

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Im PRETTY sure that was on an old mini

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Since forever

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like the 3rd edition

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yeee

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also whoever makes the first australia joke gets banned

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You see the random rings on the shoulder?

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orchid lark
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resisting the urge to type upsidedown

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Kharn always took the spotlight in it

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Same

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its because it gets cut halfway for the cover

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That's Kharn ? I though he had both arms unarmoured

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Uhhhh

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OH wait yeah

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he doesnt have the plasma gun either

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nvm random W.E

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Yeah the Eightbound stole his style

orchid lark
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Was remembering wrong apparantely

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pǝuᴉuǝp ǝq ʇou llᴉʍ I

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Still think this isn't him though

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Also i thought kharn wasnt really allowed near his dad and bulk of the legion (whats left of it)

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Yeeee i doubt Lewis would mess that up, deffo a random world eater

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because like

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the supervisors for the art would not allow that

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Slightly different helmet

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yeah no its a rando

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Doesnt have the hair either

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also no plasma

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AND

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no bitches

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A lot of the world eaters have exposed arms now too

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unless these guys count

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Sleeveless is very fashionable

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"A random world eater!?"

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removes on arm armor

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"KHARN THE BETRAYER!"

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Nah it's the Plasma pistol

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He has pigtails

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im half sure those pigtails had lore

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brb

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YES THEY DID

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Yeah its to be used like handlebars when he gets beaten by some mary sue

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NOOOO

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He didn't win against Azrael
Victory

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Its why Angron disowned him

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wait i forgot

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his entire gear-set gets lore

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Azrael has one of these too

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Tells about the "Faze Rebellion" of leet gamers with snipers

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Same with Dante and Cato

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Honestly love those things

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Cato my beloved

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Little lore added to their stuff

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Makes your dolly all the special

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I dont remember this part in the codex

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Truly exotic, psyker mains are a rare brred

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psyker mains whom can't even play their main class effectively KEKW_ogryn

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I love playing psyker too so im allowed to make these jokes Pepega

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imma slide outta here

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Psyker players never get old

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"nerf" after "nerf" they complain

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That's because they don't exist

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still continue to clear out entire hordes

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ok i guess

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💀

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It's like people complaining about power sword nerfs KEKW_ogryn

orchid thicket
orchid lark
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Chad

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With the Chadstache

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warp perils cooldown on enemy kill my belowed

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He suffers from ultra ptsd

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4 wounds? Sedition?

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can't recall, was a while back

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probably

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wait

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do wounds change on mission difficulty?

celest dome
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i have 1k hours and i still dont know

orchid lark
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bruh

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You get less on higher dificulties

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Time to take your mod status

shadow plover
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I THOUGHT IT WAS TRINKET RELATED

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hence mfers with like 9 wounds

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it is as well

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Ah

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You just get less as base

orchid lark
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The bonus from trinkets stays

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I usually run one extra wound on everything but an ogryn

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max wound ogrynswhatthefuck_heresy

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I don't even run extra wounds, just don't die thumbsup_ogryn

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This reminds me of when people didnt know that the payload heals you in overwatch

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I can't be bothered to change up for grim runs so I just default to it

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I love having more wounds but not changing my health

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I am pretty sure like every new player thought it did KEKW_ogryn

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at least for a little bit

storm jungle
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that's why my chaxe looks like

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tbh

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God i need the chain-axe

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the uhhh longer one

green loom
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There's a longer one?

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two handed chaxe please

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Yeee it was in the leaks

celest dome
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Thats called a rake

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LMAO

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I need Twin Chain Axes

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god if only

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I need

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Checks list

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Same move set as Bardin's Twin Axes

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I just want a bolt pistol

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this will suffice for now

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There so many weapon that I want to see adapted from VT2

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A Beret
Elysian armour
Kasrkin armour
Masked helmet WITH visor
Las carbine
Mods for guns

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if the two handed chaxe has the coghammer moveset

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Like all the Skullsplitter Hammer becoming 1h THammer (Single, Twin, Shield)

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I hope we eventually get a hammer with the Warrior priest 2 hander moveset

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It's so good

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I think it would work quite well for the Ogryn

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Also Ogryn Maul and Knife

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near wasp
astral whale
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So, if I were to get something straight.

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The Revolver we have right now is basically a Smith & Wesson 500.

5 rounds in the cylinder.
Hefty enough to bash enemies' faces in.
Do quite high damage for its size.

near wasp
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Maybe a 44 but yeah a hefty revolver

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We could chalk the firepower to more advanced powder (if that's ever a thing), but if we're gonna have more variants of the revolver...

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There's quite an ancient combi-weapon.

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Imagine this.

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(In case someone doesn't know, this is a LeMat Revolver. I say it's a combi-weapon due to the central barrel, which is for a shotgun shell.)

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I am familar with it

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Give me a semi automatic pistol, as secondary, and I'm a happy camper

signal bramble
plush mason
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Yeah but bolters have stupidly high recoil...follow up shots in game are a pain. Lore wise, they break arms

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Not the big bois.

versed ledge
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Even then, if the standard bolt gun breaks arms, then how insane of a recoil does the baby brother has?

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That’s the size difference.

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It’s fired one handed.

versed ledge
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Bolt pistol the size of an smg

signal bramble
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Bolt pistols are fired one handed so it can’t be that bad.

plush mason
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An Astartes bolter would break your arm.

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Not a normal size one.

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That model is a normal human btw.

versed ledge
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Maybe, then again we play as strong and conditioned forty year olds (or twenty year olds because 40k verse isn't known for relaxation and health)

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remember a bolter is a 2-stage gyrorocket so its 1st stage is the only thing with a kick and that is just enough propellant to get the round out of the barrel

versed ledge
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So maybe it's not that bad

versed ledge
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yeah

versed ledge
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So can a bolter be modified to have a stock, grip, maybe extended mags?

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Also a good reflex scope....

signal bramble
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They make specific patterns for those roles

versed ledge
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Seems rather wasteful to make a whole new line up instead of a modular rifle....then again this is the imperiun

signal bramble
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For normal humans modifying stuff is tech heresy.

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The Admech believe that everything that has been invented is perfect and trying to change it. Is heresy.

versed ledge
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Stupid admechs....they forget that normal humans are what's holding back the tide

plush mason
signal bramble
plush mason
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its basically the whole "the human body is perfect" thing but for machines

signal bramble
#

In the underhive the gangers will nod their weapons and alter them and of course the dark mech and chaos will change stuff. But standard issue gear cannot be modified.

orchid lark
#

it helps having the son of the omnissiah to campaign for your inventions too

signal bramble
#

There is some slight leeway for snipers who calibrate their weapons to their personal specs but that’s about all I can think of off the top of my head.

orchid lark
#

Roboute himself having invented a few things in the great crusade

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The Sicaran tank was made by him and Ferrus

plush mason
versed ledge
#

So the mechanicus is ruled by idiots...

signal bramble
plush mason
orchid lark
plush mason
#

being ruled by idiots is a stable of humanity. both irl and in 40k lol

signal bramble
#

It also gives the devs a convenient a excuse to limit weapon mods.

orchid lark
#

except it wont make sense when Primarchs do come back and not invent shit

versed ledge
orchid lark
#

when they did that some times during horus heresy

versed ledge
#

Explains why we all love Warhammer 40k

storm jungle
#

a bolter is just an automated barrett 50. cal

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if you can shoot that IRL, you can shoot a bolter

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a space marine bolt weapon wont break anyones arm but the punches of the shooting will definitely hurt/ache where you shot from for prolonged periods at best

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id only see an arm breaking if you are like skinny af and never shot a gun before

plush mason
#

the fact it takes a literal cannon sized round just to dislocate a shoulder shows how little recoil can actually effect you

storm jungle
#

its why i always keep this image at hand

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plush mason
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and even then that was down more to failings in the rifle's design than the actual force of the round

storm jungle
#

before Darktide came out people assumed only marines can use bolters

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and that they are some "holy" gun or something

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Guard sergeants have been able to use them on tabletop for like years

copper patrol
#

don't forget sergeant mf harker who uses not just a bolter

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but a heavy bolter

storm jungle
#

YE BOI

plush mason
#

literally the only reason they are not standard issue for the IG is cost and manufacturing requirements

plush mason
storm jungle
#

Lmao yeah

plush mason
#

if the admech made it. its holy. and the admech make almost everything

green loom
#

Did the DA ever get Mk4 maximus?

copper patrol
#

I feel like a lot of the times with stuff like the "bolters can break your arms"

#

it's important to remember

#

40k is stupid, but not that stupid

green loom
#

Astartes use bigger bolters?

plush mason
#

the caliber is the same but the frame is bigger and heavier

#

with most space marine armaments its a case of "take the human sized version and make it bigger"

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tho i think the bolter is inversed of that

copper patrol
#

a normal human wouldn't want to have to lug that fucking thing around

#

solders now will (sometimes) complain if they have an extra like 4 pounds added on to thier gun as an undermounted grenade launcher

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since they have to carry alot of other shit

crisp heath
#

Hey to all the guys who were saying that just because Gideon the Ninth has 10,000 year old undead God-Emperor doesn't mean it's ripping off 40k

plush mason
#

true

crisp heath
#

The necromancer house is led by a guy named Priamhark, who they are all descended from

plush mason
#

?

storm jungle
#

its from

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  1. An old ass mid 200's RPG i think Dark Heresy
#
  1. The author of that stuff is very marine wanky and has been criticized for it beforehand lol
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like he literally refers to the stuff sororitas/humans use as "mortal bolters" which is like...

#

If its master-crafted sure but we are talking about "normal" bolt-weapons here lol

astral whale
orchid lark
#

also bolters werent made for space marines to begin with

orchid lark
astral whale
#

Also the sisters don’t have black carapaces.

orchid lark
#

the carapace is better interface and movement, not strength

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Powered Armour is still powered armour

astral whale
#

Not that getting hit by a cannon caliber is going to be preferable to higher calibers.

#

Godwyn De’az proved its effectiveness against the astartes during Vandire’s little vanity streak.

storm jungle
#

that entire page is just "Get it through your thick skull that astartes bolters are nowhere near as measly as "mortal" bolters"

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I have seen enough faction jerking in 40k to know that at this point

orchid lark
#

the only thing I find believable is Astartes Ammunition is treated and seen as holy, but never considered them to be better

#

if they got the same profiles in the game, theyre the same

storm jungle
#

Yeah pretty much this.

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its the same as how the dressing of a single space marine is made to be like a great ritual

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then they just DIE

#

MISTER SPACE MARINE GET DOWN

orchid lark
#

I get like Space marines should be seen like a ritual, but like thats the same with Aspect Warriors and maybe even the Nobs lmao

storm jungle
#

Lmao yep

orchid lark
#

I want GW to do parody videos of that honestly

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like each faction has their suiting up video

#

but the Ork one is just him yoinking shit or smacking gobs to get the shit fixed onto him

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tyranid ones are just the same tyranid being reborn with new evolutions

orchid lark
#

wth

storm jungle
#

average scarab superiority moment

orchid lark
#

at least back then Games Workshop was like, oh if your soldier goes down, doesnt mean theyre dead

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because its your guys

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you make the story

summer rover
#

other armies: *elaborate battle scene to show how effective and cool they are"
necrons: "hey, can i take an extra 3000 points of scarabs just to see how long it takes to kill everything?"

arctic talon
#

But showing people get killed in ads is cool

vale shuttle
#

in a crusade campaign, which is the ongoing narrative version of 40k, i only know of two ways to lose a character without choosing to. you can fail to ascend to daemonhood as a chaos marine, which turns your character into a chaos spawn instead of a daemon prince, or your living saint in a sisters army can be martyred, which causes her to be removed from your army

placid crown
#

If we can take down plague ogryns and beasts of nurgle, and elite captains armed with iron halos + plasma guns

#

Is it too much to say we could take on a chaos marine?

arctic talon
#

We shouldn’t be able to kill beasts of nurgle

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From a lore perspective

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We’d should just die due to its aura

#

But a marine would prolly give us trouble especially a plague marine

placid crown
#

Personally I'm surprised we never get sick from the thousands of infected we rip and tear apart in melee range lol

arctic talon
#

Something something faith something

#

But yeah we could prolly kill a csm

#

It would suck to fight

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But it would be possible

#

Assuming we don’t engage in melee

placid crown
#

Could make for an interesting assassination mission at least

orchid lark
#

I always thought itd be better for a csm fight to be an escape

placid crown
#

Or maybe a flashpoint mission for how tough they are

arctic talon
#

Also other issue

orchid lark
#

Like you have this amount of time to finish the mission before the astartes gets to you

arctic talon
#

We’d have a pretty difficult time injuring them with autoguns and lasguns

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But we have heavier weapons

#

So

placid crown
#

Or hell, what if we rack up buffs in a chaos wastes/rogue-lite mode that after several missions of powering up, it culminates in a chaos marine boss fight

orchid lark
#

Its a space marine, you ought to feel like youre being hunted down for sport

#

Fighting space marines will cheapen the experience

#

Making it to a horror game will elevate it

placid crown
#

I disagree, having to work extremely hard to take down just a single csm would only highlight how tough they are

arctic talon
#

Make it a multi phase fight

orchid lark
#

You can still take him out in my idea

arctic talon
#

The whole mission is the assasination

orchid lark
#

I just like the idea of a dread building up

#

Like Mazosi or Rannick or whoever warning you to a space marine being spotted

#

Ideally the shouldve done this with the daemonhost

#

Wandering Daemonhosts sounds fun

#

But at higher levels it becomes a death sentence, its possible, but not everyone leaves alive

placid crown
orchid lark
#

They wouldn’t send us rejects

#

Grendl would have a better team for that

placid crown
#

Who else would they send, we're all there is; reinforcements are blocked, and even communication out of system is hard

orchid lark
#

Seeing as Grendl has the time to “look” after us, I would wager Grendl has dedicated knowledgeable folk to look for stuff like that

placid crown
#

I'd say they'd be prepared to send us in once we hit level 30 and are actually trusted

#

We either die trying or they make damn sure to relieve us of any artifacts we find, not like we can keep them

#

The idea would be to ensure the enemy doesn't get them primarily anyway

orchid lark
#

At the point its better on a timescale to just send in Stormtroopers

#

Actual hardcases

celest dome
#

If Grendyl had the people to do that he wouldn't be using us

placid crown
#

Do we have any idea what kind of forces Grendyl has access to ATM anyway? AFAIK not a single astartes at least

orchid lark
#

We’re doing the shittier jobs

celest dome
#

Of all of them, we are the only one that are expendables

orchid lark
#

He could also pull from the Planets own regiments and PDF

#

But they’re fighting the war

#

We’re just little corks plugging little issues

placid crown
#

What's stopping us from becoming auric? I assume by hitting level 30 and becoming officially inducted into the Inquisition we're no longer "just" a reject

celest dome
#

Nah we still are counted among Morrow's Rejects

orchid lark
#

We’re tools maintained by an Inquisitors Interrogators tools

#

Not saying Morrow is a tool

#

But the bastard could help out a bit

celest dome
#

To become an Auric class we would have to be chosen by the leader/officer of the Auric Class, maybe Melk could help us on that

orchid lark
#

We’re not special, we are rejects and the least we can do is die standing

#

An easy stop gap and cork to evergrowing problems

#

For all we know we’re just a temporary solution whilst a part of a battlegroup/battlefleet is coming

#

Its just months before they arrive

#

A lot of moving parts

celest dome
#

Except no one I'd coming as of yet

orchid lark
#

I joked about how Space Marine 2 is the direct Sequel to Darktide

versed ledge
#

I gotta ask, how on earth do we not get infected in Darktide? We're fighting against Nurgle here..the god of all biohazards

#

There's also reason to believe that the contagion may still be active

celest dome
#

Faith and Inquisition medical procedures

orchid lark
#

Ludonarrative dissonance

#

If there was an actual damage tick for the game and like need for medical procedure

#

Takes away from playing the game as its genre is intended

#

If you want a game where you have to be careful of sickness

vale shuttle
#

play pathologic

orchid lark
#

Stalker and Hardcore New Vegas is there

#

That too

versed ledge
#

Never did play pathologic what is it about?

vale shuttle
#

a dying town in rural russia is struck by a terrible plague. you play as one of three doctors and must survive, all while trying to keep your bound protected from sickness by completing a number of tasks each day

#

it's a very painful game to play. it is a game made to hurt you.

orchid lark
arctic talon
coarse pumice
#

nice carnifex

arctic talon
arctic talon
coarse pumice
#

going back to it's roots

arctic talon
coarse pumice
#

i still think this thing was more intimidating, something about those 1st/2nd ed faces

chilly creek
#

The minis were not a delight to put together tho

green loom
#

IM GONNA MORB

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crimson kayak
crimson kayak
arctic talon
#

It would appear so lol

crimson kayak
#

Well im curious to see what they are gonna be like considering for now they are just killteams

green loom
#

Potential Imperial Agents codex?

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crisp heath
#

Don't like the new screamer-killer

#

Old carnifex was the one old tyranid model I liked

#

The new one isn't as cute

#

God I also need to order a box of termies brand new before they swap all their product, the new ones are also less cute

green loom
#

Severus is at least very sexy

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odd palm
#

Gamers

#

New Calgar model just dropped

crisp heath
#

I made a joke a while back about Calgar being increasingly mutilated every time he gets in a duel, I didn't think they'd actually do it

green loom
#

I hate this the most

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odd palm
#

A dedicated flame unit?

green loom
#

Flame only

vale shuttle
#

IT'S THE PRIMARIS BURNINATORS

green loom
#

They're called an "Infernus" squad

vale shuttle
#

BURNINATORS

#

perfect for a salamanders army

coarse pumice
#

it's taking Eldar concepts again

green loom
#

Old world, warcry and underworlds reveals soon btw

#

Very excited

#

Nvm not old world, that's tomorrow

echo vault
orchid lark
#

Infernus Squads shouldve been in Phobos Armour

#

I think that would’ve been neater

#

Fast Attack burning squad

#

Would be closer to stealing from the tau than the eldar

orchid thicket
balmy abyss
#

That box set is going to be expensive

odd palm
orchid lark
#

that would be too cool, cant have that

crimson kayak
near wasp
rose thorn
#

Wow dark angels lore HH lore is much better then I was expecting

#

A death of something beautiful

#

Luther was literally the greatest person born of Caliban, then Lion was found

signal bramble
rose thorn
#

I did lmao

#

That’s my first DA book

#

I usually skip DA a epsiodes on podcasts

#

But I’m actually listening

#

To them now

signal bramble
#

Ah nice.

rose thorn
#

Lion makes a load of sense for his character

#

He’s like a wild animal

near wasp
#

Ive started the son of the forest book and im enjoying it

signal bramble
#

I’ve read it.

rose thorn
#

I think mg question is, was the death of caliban’s culture and individuality worth the death of their planet

#

Before it was nuked by tzeentch

storm jungle
#

Azrael was the main cause of it

near wasp
storm jungle
rose thorn
rose thorn
#

Oh wrong person

#

But still

#

And

near wasp
rose thorn
#

I was so fuckinh confused

#

Why was there a werewolf or something????

#

Wait was it him or that pyker

#

There’s so many named characters I get them all mixed up

green loom
storm jungle
#

YEP

#

Maggie doesnt know that yet

near wasp
rose thorn
#

KNOW WHAT

rose thorn
storm jungle
#

SHE DOESN'T KNOW.

#

🫵

orchid lark
#

The coming change to Caliban was inevitable

storm jungle
#

Okay but all jokes aside

#

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Tuchulcha

Tuchulcha

The Tuchulcha Engine is an ancient sentient device and possible Warp entity. Of Old Ones origin[5a], Tuchulcha is part of a triumvirate of similar entities (Ouroboros and Plagueheart) which when combined can create a rift that bridges space and time. On its own, Tuchulcha is capable of extremely efficient, precise, and accurate Warp jumps.[1]

#

@rose thorn

orchid lark
#

I love that character from Rainbow Six Siege

storm jungle
#

lmao fuck you

#

they murdered my boy Tachanka

orchid lark
#

Youre telling me

#

Well i liked his rewoek

#

But

#

He doesnt do much anymore

storm jungle
#

Removing Tachanka's LMG is like taking away the Emperor's gold armor

#

absolute heresy to our Lord

orchid lark
#

He can roam and anchor but everyone else does those things better

#

At that rate he shouldve been offense

storm jungle
#

alas 😔

orchid lark
#

He should just retire and blow Miras back out

storm jungle
orchid lark
#

You know im right

storm jungle
#

Ok maybe

storm jungle
#

THEY EDITED THE PAGE

#

They removed the part where its literally implied on point that Azrael destroyed Caliban in the past

orchid lark
#

If it wasnt Azrael it would’ve been someone else or something right?

#

Like its implied that Caliban was gonna be destroyed regardless

storm jungle
#

Yeah that

#

but like its been forever since i read the book

orchid lark
#

Also isnt Lion just a character from Neverending Story? He just made his own Fantasia

storm jungle
#

lmao wow

orchid lark
#

He’s the dude from Sharkboy and Lavagirl

#

Mirror Caliban is his happy place

#

Literally

#

Spoiler Alert

#

I guess

storm jungle
#

lksfklddklsdklsdskl

orchid lark
#

Oh I want that Emote

#

His helm too big to fit his goddamn coffin

#

Much like Spider One when he died

#

They had to PUSH IT

#

Primarchs are just man children

storm jungle
#

They really are 😔

orchid lark
#

at this point im surprised they didnt make the Lion come out with like his memory chaos spawn beasts

#

whats the picture

#

Like Circe who made her enemies to wild beasts

#

Lion remembers his hunts and makes them to giant spectral lions

#

but that would be to AOS or something

near wasp
orchid lark
#

we all did

#

we all loved him

rose thorn
#

Also I’m gonna snap you can tell when someone talking about DA hasn’t read first of the fallen

#

I hope they read it by part 2

orchid lark
#

back in my day, all I remember about Dark Angels was them loving Plasma Weapons

#

and that one film that one dude made in youtube

#

wonder what happened to him

storm jungle
#

THEY LITERALLY, HAD PLASMA-FLAMERS

orchid lark
#

Also @rose thorn you got an OC Dark Angel chapter?

orchid lark
rose thorn
#

NaH I’m not a DA fan, I was hoping that they were more medieval monster hunter like

orchid lark
#

wait, didnt the original Ultramarine First Company captain had a double plasma gun

rose thorn
#

But lion’s entire thing was not caring at all about it

orchid lark
#

Yeah he's just an exterminator

rose thorn
#

Vs chad Luther

orchid lark
#

Tarzan but Pest Control

#

What if Superman was like Goku but like Tarzan but like Arthurian

orchid lark
#

they do that for fun on their homeworld

rose thorn
#

White scars do it a lot

#

They are my current favorite

#

Honestly I would like ultra marines

#

But i dislike the Roman vibe

orchid lark
#

inb4 people say Dark Krakens are not really Salamandery without realising that Salamanders and their people also got a Whaling Culture

#

Would you like Atlantean Spears?

green loom
#

I like my knightly blood angels thumbsup_ogryn

orchid lark
rose thorn
#

Or the guys who really like tridents

orchid lark
#

No wait Im thinking of Emperors Spears

green loom
orchid lark
#

Atlantean Spears are Blood Angels

rose thorn
rose thorn
green loom
#

I go heavy on roses and heraldry

orchid lark
#

if you like Ultramarines but dont like the Romanness, theres Imperial Fists with their German Junker (posh-ish) Culture

#

and they like bone scrimshaw

#

Blood Angels have pivoted to being Italian

#

cause I guess Interview with a Vampire was fresh on everyones mind

#

Like Antonio Banderas in Interview with the Vampire is just

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#

Astorath

#

well, Astorath is more like Antonio Banderas from the movie

rose thorn
#

Lmao

#

And I forgot all of them

signal bramble
signal bramble
# rose thorn Are they the cannibals?

Lots of space marines enjoy eating the flesh of humans. I don’t blame the space marines, it’s not their fault there are trillions humans just walking around filled with blood and meat.

crimson kayak
copper patrol
#

nade launcher iirc

crimson kayak
copper patrol
#

(I don't actually play siege) iirc they just gave him the lmg as a weapon he can equip then gave him an incidary grenade launhcer

green loom
#

Didn't realize but AAAA

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celest dome
#

Is it supposed to be a Combi Plasma Bolter ?

green loom
#

Yes

crimson kayak
#

I mean, the main problem seems only to be the box mag hiding the iron sights

celest dome
#

I mean, do the SM even beer Ironsight as they have their Bolter linked to their armour ?

coarse pumice
#

SM and Eldar armour are meant to have auto senses so they can sight with a helmet display

versed ledge
copper patrol
#

that is like

#

one of the most common ones iirc

#

it's def not a new thing

#

just the box mag on top is stupid

summer rover
#

oh cool, the plasma's cooling coils are pressing against the firing mechinism for the bolter so it can blow up while it's blowing up.

green loom
#

Look at the damn magazine

#

WHY

summer rover
#

because they put the plasma's primary reaction chamber on the bottom and putting it on the side would require them to understand it makes sense mechanically.

near wasp
#

Thats soo bad oml

coarse pumice
#

compare with the old combo bolter

gloomy citrus
#

I had this thought about the Silver Knight.
If Slaanesh took a form of a little girl, and people normally see Slaanesh as something that they find attractive, would that mean...

celest dome
#

Isn't necesarilly attractive in the sexual way, just attractive in a way that let your guard fall down.

gloomy citrus
#

Still...

arctic talon
#

I love these weird things

gloomy citrus
storm jungle
#

Floss

arctic talon
storm jungle
#

Im happy to be of service

gloomy citrus
#

Is it strange that the most OP primarchs (Vulkan and Magnus) are the least human looking?

celest dome
#

How are they the most OP ?

near wasp
storm jungle
#

I mean they look pretty human

celest dome
#

More like top 10, but not second

storm jungle
#

one just has charcoal skin and one has red skin

near wasp
#

Whos stronger than magnus besides the emperor?

gloomy citrus
#

Malcador, probably.

celest dome
#

Eldrad

near wasp
#

Ok point taken

storm jungle
#

Hes deffo in the Top 5

celest dome
#

Are we looking at Pre Heresy or Post Heresy ?

gloomy citrus
#

I would say pre, because post is just a part of Magnus.

#

A shard.

near wasp
#

an ittsybittys shard

gloomy citrus
#

And he's a full time plaything of Tzeentch.

versed ledge
#

So what if there's a 40K dating simulator that takes place in noble life, with four potential love interests to choose from, and each representing the respective gods...

gloomy citrus
celest dome
#

Necromunda themed:
Esher (Slaanesh)
Goliath (Khorne)

gloomy citrus
#

For your own good, don't choose the Nurgle option.

versed ledge
#

We just need a nerdy girl to play Tzeentch

gloomy citrus
#

Snatch a shard of Magnus.

versed ledge
#

And a depressed, well meaning, nurse for Nurgle..who will eventually lead to an eldritch disease horror

#

If games workshop reads this, do it! Imagine the potential

gloomy citrus
celest dome
#

Have there 2 end for each, one where they fall tochaos and another when they don't

near wasp
#

and then 1 for chaos undivided

astral whale
crimson kayak
#

Now that I think about it, scouts just disappeared quietly didn't they?

orchid lark
#

They may come back because of the black templar models

#

It would have to coincide with Space Wolf stuff maybe

#

Wolf Scouts and what not

#

Who knows

crisp heath
#

Yes, even the Psyker.

storm jungle
#

they are an integral part of marine lore so GW would never get rid of them, as said above they are just gonna get a HD remake/update at some point

green loom
#

I did it

#

I think I've finally nailed a 40k style

near wasp
#

I dont get people who hate the primarchs. They say it gives too much light into 40k. But like sure the primarch are powerfull, but they are indivuals. They can only be one place at once, 1 planet of a million gets a win, and 500 more are lost. Just because theres some hint of hope doesnt mean its not grimdark.

green loom
#

I hate them because it's all people talk about and takes the light away from other characters

orchid lark
#

Theres a myriad of reasons why people dont like things

#

Like some people not enjoying the god Emperor because of how less mythical he seems

#

People will always have opinions and takes on things.

#

I find it better to just curate your online experience and just block’em

#

(Controllably of course, some discussions are good. )

storm jungle
#

Basically its the fact that they are entirely overexposed by the fandom to an almost Marvel/DC Superman/Batman level.

Go to r/40klore or r/grimdank any day of the week and people talk about nothing but Primarchs.

#

and all the threads are like

#

what would primarch X do

#

what would primarch X smell like

orchid lark
#

Pretty much

storm jungle
#

what would primarch X react to X event

#

what would primarch X do against primarch X

#

like its actually insane

#

actually speaking of

#

let me go take a look

near wasp
#

Lol

storm jungle
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SEE

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FIRST POST

near wasp
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Kekw

orchid lark
storm jungle
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Also 2 posts after

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1 post after

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like holy fuck

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anyway okay im done

orchid lark
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Hate this kind of shit

storm jungle
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Same.

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Like I DO like most Primarchs