#40k-lore-chat

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vale shuttle
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literally every single time someone brings up LGBT issues in relation to 40k at all they bring up slaanesh, god of degeneracy and excess and it's like

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bro could you be more of a bastard?

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we both know what you're saying, even if you're too much of a weasel to explicitly say it to my face

rose thorn
orchid lark
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Maidenless Behaviour the lot of them

vale shuttle
crimson kayak
vale shuttle
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nowadays i just ask, "What do you mean by this?"

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i go straight for the socratic method

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because when i ask that they typically retreat to "Oh, y'know..." Or "do I have to explain...?"

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and when i say "Yes." they either shut the fuck up or take off the mask

crimson kayak
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i imagine their minds going blank when this question appears

orchid lark
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I thought youd be on my side kinda behaviour

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when the echo chambers goes silent, the paper man can crumble

vale shuttle
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people will say the most vile shit to you if they think you're a cishet white guy, it's unbelievable

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don't you have any shame?

orchid lark
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I've literally just stopped going to those places and just lived better honestly

copper patrol
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I never went

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I think

orchid lark
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ive stayed in my lane for almost a year now

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and Ive been better

copper patrol
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I still look at grimdank memes

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but I never read the comments

orchid lark
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Im drawing more, writing more, and walking more

vale shuttle
orchid lark
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Grimdank sucks, I just make memes with my friends and lifes good

copper patrol
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i used to find some of them funny

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but not had any funni ones recently

vale shuttle
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i like reading and engaing with 40k stuff, it's fun, but i don't have an infinte amount of models to paint and i don't have the ability to paly games more than once a week

copper patrol
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(like last year recently)

crimson kayak
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i just watch Tek and Mek if i want 40k memes

copper patrol
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I literally don't even play the games

vale shuttle
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so i end up on 40klore on reddit which is fine, like, a decent amount of the time but

queen laurel
copper patrol
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might try to with 10th if the rules are indeed free tho

vale shuttle
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it does have its fair share of "gosh darn the imperium just has to be fash because that's the most effficient form of government"

vale shuttle
orchid lark
copper patrol
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that's such a pain tho

vale shuttle
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10th ed looks like a real improvment, and they've said they're gonna release all the rules + index cards for free

coarse pumice
crimson kayak
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what in first edition's hell is that

coarse pumice
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they're ex-citadel fishmen

vale shuttle
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...space slaan?

orchid lark
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the original Space Marines

green loom
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Deep state lizard marines

queen laurel
crimson kayak
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oh god there's even worse version of it!

orchid lark
vale shuttle
queen laurel
copper patrol
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Turn the frigging fishmen gay

green loom
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Not my manly men with chiseled, muscular bodies who spend all day half naked wrestling!

orchid lark
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Bloodborne but cooler

coarse pumice
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most of the ex-citadel stuff is just historicals though

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but that one stood out as a bit different

vale shuttle
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wtf is this result for 'slaan' on google

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coarse pumice
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a lot of ex-citadels were historicals that could be used as Empire in early Warhammer

copper patrol
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bring back kremlo

orchid lark
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you know, its weird to think

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that if Tolkeinns family allowed for Games Workshop to make LoTR stuff from the get go

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40k wouldnt be here

vale shuttle
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kremlo the slaan is 40 years old

orchid lark
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(and starcraft and warcraft)

crimson kayak
copper patrol
vale shuttle
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if GW had given the rights to their IP to fledgling blizzard, then "World of Warhammer" would be the biggest MMO in the world and warhammer fantasy would never have been blown up

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||and instead we'd have the writers at blizzard slowly destroying the fantasy setting through their sheer incompetence||

vale shuttle
orchid lark
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What if Grimdark was made for not grimdark fans

green loom
coarse pumice
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Blizzard probably would have been become 'license game guys', so WoW might never have come into existence

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which completely changes a lot of things

orchid lark
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Orks would never be green

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think about that

vale shuttle
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life without WoW

orchid lark
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WAIT

vale shuttle
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i have no idea what you're talking about

orchid lark
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Without WoW Etherium wouldnt be a thing either!

crimson kayak
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wot

orchid lark
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Jeff Kaplan wouldve had not made Overwatch either

vale shuttle
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lmao vitalik buterin being a butthuirt warlock main will never get old

queen laurel
copper patrol
orchid lark
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long ago, 2007? or something

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some kid saved his sister by pretending to be dead

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because he rememberd a wow ability

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which prevented the both of them from being mauled by a wild animal

copper patrol
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the fucking big brain

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genius

coarse pumice
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didn't some of the old overwatch concepts (and uniforms) look a bit like Pan-O infantry?

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vale shuttle
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they did

coarse pumice
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those blue beret guys

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Blizzard not using tabletop game concepts challenge: Impossible

green loom
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"Overwatch" the organization had lots of blue and lots of berets

crimson kayak
summer rover
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man i hate infiniy minis. there is SO MUCH highlighting making those looks good and once you actually look at them in person it's clear you'll never do it.

crimson kayak
coarse pumice
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this is one of mine

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I kind of miss some of the older, more adventurous designs

celest dome
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Is that a Van Saar model ?

coarse pumice
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another TAG from later

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TAGs are basically Infinity's Dreadnought equivalent

orchid lark
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very appleseed

copper patrol
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fucken

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little arms

coarse pumice
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yeah, I think appleseed was one of the major inspirations for the setting

copper patrol
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poking out

orchid lark
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good cause Appleseed was fucking awesome

coarse pumice
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and GITS

queen laurel
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And smaller

coarse pumice
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the size is a bridge between heavy infantry and a vehicle, and the big arms mirror the movement of the operator's arms

crimson kayak
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i hate these designs only because the small arms are easy targets for explosives

copper patrol
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or anything really

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that's why I don't like the nundams

crimson kayak
coarse pumice
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xbox ninja, this is normal 28mm on a 25mm base, so the scale is similar to 40k

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meager zinc
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If a SM gets tapped to become part of the Deathwatch, do they have a choice in the matter?

green loom
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They can be sent both as volunteers and as punishment/banishment

summer rover
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if there was any concern they wouldn't do it i doubt they'd consider them

green loom
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Plus

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If you're being selected

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It's for a purpose built team vs a specific threat

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And it probably means you're what they'd consider an "expert"

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Which is high praise and also a massive honour

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So most marines probably wouldn't refuse

crimson kayak
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Didn't knew they remastered the original crimson fist cover and made it both primaris and firstborn

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orchid lark
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some chapters are very isolated and prefer to be on their own, so being sent Deathwatch is a punishment, some chapters love being sent to the deathwatch because its an honour

crimson kayak
coarse pumice
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the original one IMO is more intense

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it's by quite a famous artist

orchid lark
crimson kayak
summer rover
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it's crimson fists, this happens all the time for them.

crimson kayak
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also look at that fucking power fist

green loom
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You use your buddy's corpse as cover

summer rover
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glove-mounted flamers should have been available by now.

orchid lark
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War, war never changes

green loom
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Or does it

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The answer is no

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Unless it is yes

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The war has changed

signal bramble
summer rover
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i mean deathwatch is the same as they already normally do, to space wolves it's probably a good training exercise in cooperating

orchid lark
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Grey Hunters and Longclaws probably go into the Deathwatch and come back to a nice promotion

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Wolf Scouts or Wolfguard

green loom
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iirc

orchid lark
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its a shame they didnt show Cyrus in DoW2 with a silver shoulderpad

green loom
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It's an honour you can wear

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Like how Marneus doesn't wear his

undone zodiac
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They just ask single marine minimum to deathwatch

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They dont specify it further other than hoping veteran personel

green loom
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You wanna know who I want to see modeled/drawn

undone zodiac
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Chaos farsight

orchid lark
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Warp Spiders

heavy bison
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What Chaos god would most suit a druidic theme, Nurgle?

copper patrol
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nurgle or tzeentch

arctic talon
crimson kayak
signal bramble
green loom
orchid lark
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There is a “model” of him

green loom
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He's always been portrayed as the generic termie captain

orchid lark
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But he was the generic termi

green loom
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Want to see him in the new scale

orchid lark
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Yeah that

crimson kayak
orchid lark
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Gotta be whiteshields somewhere, so probably. Creed isnt that much of a dick to expect kids to stay and die

green loom
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I can draw it as well

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More want to see le model;

orchid lark
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I unironically like that movie

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Was nice to have

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But plot shitty

green loom
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What movie thumbsup_ogryn

orchid lark
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I still quote and say “Get up and kill this beast”

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And the way terrence stamp said “we march for macragge!”

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Love it

crimson kayak
green loom
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Yeah but as Tetrach he could be a bit more different now

orchid lark
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A laurel

crimson kayak
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i mean, yeah but we never actually see if tetrarch's have any kind of different stuff

orchid lark
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When in doubt

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Go look at greyall’s 40k art

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The best and most underrated 40k artist we ever had

crimson kayak
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yeah greyall is good

orchid lark
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I miss him

crimson kayak
summer rover
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oh, that's a storm bolter at a weird angle.

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actually, i'ts kinda weird there's not more space marines with storm bolters aside from terminators.

crimson kayak
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Isn't it said that it's unwieldy without terminator armour?

summer rover
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we see captians using them one-handed, so they're probably no that hard for power armor to manage.

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trading away the squad's heavy/special options for a full ten-man storm bolter squad would have some good uses.

celest dome
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White Shield are the younger guardsmen, who are too young to be in the propper Imperial Guard

green loom
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Translation: child soldiers

celest dome
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From what we've seen about 20year

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Other than that is mostly memes

signal bramble
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There were.

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Though keep in mind Cadians don’t have traditional families. They have organized breeding programs.

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They’re also continuing that breeding program aboard their ships as they travel between war zones as they’re now a fleet based regiment.

coarse pumice
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GW pricing lore

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summer rover
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i miss blister packs. and metal. metal alwasy ended up being a better deal over the long run

coarse pumice
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yeah sadbydo

arctic talon
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Metal minis aren’t better then plastic imo

summer rover
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i dunno how highschoolers make armies now.

arctic talon
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But metal minis were better

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Then finecast

arctic talon
shadow plover
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metal minis are way worse to plastic

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the heft is nice though

arctic talon
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Blunt force trauma weapon

coarse pumice
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the older metals like those one piece fire dragons were really nice to build

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the weigh gave a nice premium feel too

midnight ore
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how did people kitbash?

coarse pumice
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same as you do now, just take bits out, chop them up and glue them together

midnight ore
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gotta become a whole ass forge master

arctic talon
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Nah

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The metal is easy to deal with

coarse pumice
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also, for marines it was really easy

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you just swapped arms or guns

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at least for a handful of them which were segmented

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they would have metal/plastic hybrids like that

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and it's not as if these chopped up CAD minis are that easy to do now

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the new plastics go together in quite specific ways

arctic talon
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Tbh

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Kitbashing is still easy imo

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You need to do a lot more cutting tho

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But I never grew up with metal minis

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So shrugpriest

coarse pumice
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metal was the same really (just one piece or two piece), or easy for some marines and a few others

arctic talon
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Sounds about right

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Only metal minis I’ve ever messed around with were some old eldar ones I got in a lot

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Fun to use them for an autarch

coarse pumice
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the difficult ones is when weapons are held close to the body so they're moulded in

summer rover
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those are still a problem tho, it's mostly you've gotta drill the whole thing out which is easier with plasitcs.

near wasp
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I used to have like 200 pewter dnd models.

signal bramble
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The Cadian blood book refers to “an age of majority.”

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So that could be 16-18.

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Since that age is different in different countries.

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But keep in mind Cadian children are taught to use and clean a lasgun at a very young age.

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So even if they don’t join until a certain age, they spend their life prepping for it.

crisp heath
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I mean Cadians specifically have White Shields, but the impression I get from a lot of novels is that most authors consider the age of majority in the Imperium to be around 14, since that's the age characters usually start seeing serious legal consequences or get conscripted

signal bramble
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I imagine it depends on the planet but either way they’re going to make sure the tithe is paid.

crisp heath
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14 is also about the age a lot of chapters start putting potential marines through the trials

summer rover
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it's also the target age of hooking warhammer players

storm jungle
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Also writing about child soldiers in your haha-funny-plastic-men game is not really that favored.

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Remember, brutally murdering adults in fiction is fine

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Kids are much more of a no-no depending on the media

green loom
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You ever read Lightning Run?

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That's pretty depressing

storm jungle
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Yep

green loom
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Not every Hero of the Imperium gets to be like Cain

near wasp
green loom
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He was also a Primarch in the great Crusade and likely massacred many more

storm jungle
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^

storm jungle
near wasp
plush mason
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yeah Vulkan was unironically one of the most xenophobic of the primarchs

coarse pumice
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didn't he give Eldrad a personal gift

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which then was taken by some harlequin to the imperial Palace

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when one of them soloed some custodes

storm jungle
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The War of the Beast was very stupid

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"I have this random ass fang from a Primarch trust me bro"

sonic willow
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How much weed would it take to make a Primarch stoned

copper patrol
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I assume most drugs just wouldn't work on primarchs

coarse pumice
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we don't know anything about primarch physiology

summer rover
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i think they have a gland they can just trigger to get high anyway

coarse pumice
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it could be they are totally immune or extremely susceptible

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or somewhere in between

green loom
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I hope Yarrick doesn't come back

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It'd be pretty great if he gets Martyred in a big battle

coarse pumice
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instead of coming back, have him reborn in a fantasy world

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in a human civilisation roughly similar to our holy roman Empire

green loom
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"My new life as a holy witch hunter of Sigmar"

coarse pumice
green loom
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It's not as complicated as I'd like

storm jungle
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Yarrick is on a 2 way road right now

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Get mini update
Get lore on how he dies

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Mini is most likely

coarse pumice
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"I was killed in battle and reborn as a witch hunter of Sigmar, and I'm still missing an eye"

green loom
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He'll get a mini and he'll die

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Like Sergeant Tycho

summer rover
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be yarrick
fight orks on armageddon for a century
finally die, free from the orks
reborn in averland
life is pretty chill, get to make cheese now
Hear invaders are coming at us from black fire pass
"the orcs will kill us all!"
I'm so fucking done. why do these greencels always ruin things?

storm jungle
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Either way tho yeah we'll see

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my money is on a Warzone: Armageddon book

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yarrick's entire "death" is made like a sus CIA after-action report so we'll see

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he'll deffo get a new mini update because $$$

summer rover
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GW refuses to kill off characters, all the dead dudes in fantasy started dead. they're gonna give him some bullshit primarus treatment

storm jungle
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I mean its Yarrick

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also money

green loom
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I hope we get Steel Legion....

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Hey aren't those reveals tomorrow?

summer rover
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i'd prefer he stay dead at this point because armageddon duex, greenskin boogaloo just isn't interesting. come up with a new conflict instead of dragging this one out for a billion years and making it look like a wet noodle fight

plush mason
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just get that rando space wolf to kill Ghaz for good this time, easy

coarse pumice
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plot Twist: it's a historical one set in the past

summer rover
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at this point armageddon isn't even interesting, does the planet even do anything besides foght orks anymore? doesn't seem to produce things for anyone, which was why it used to be important.

orchid lark
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Its also Ullanor

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So thats why orks want it

plush mason
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its like Krieg afaik. all it can produce is troops

crisp heath
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Let's assume Vulkan is 12 foot even, and thus weighs 368 pounds pounds, which would be overweight by means of muscle. It takes only 3 mg of inhaled THC for a 178 pound male to become impaired, so it would take at least 6.2 mg of THC to impair a primarch. However, let's assume that primarch immunity is not perfect and a trace amount of a substance remains in the system. Assuming it is near 100, we have 100/6.2= 16.12, so we multiply the dose by 16, so it would take 99 mg of inhaled THC to effect vulkan assuming he has never been high before.

storm jungle
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so no

crisp heath
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@sonic willow

orchid lark
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Valhallans are also Ork Killers

crisp heath
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In other words, a primarch would have to smoke a whole gram to get the same effect a normal human would get from one hit their first time smoking

copper patrol
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368 seems

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not right

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for wieght

summer rover
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closer to 600, really

storm jungle
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should have been 420 pounds

green loom
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4/20 is my favourite day of the year

crisp heath
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I also found the density of the Witch King of Angmar one time, let me see if I can find that

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I don't remember the number but I remember he was significantly less dense than air, meaning if he took the armor off he should float away

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Lost the math 😦

orchid lark
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Primachs ought to be overweight for their height

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Like rugby players in real life for the most part

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Theres a lot of muscle and water in their bodies for sure

copper patrol
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they are also likely more dense anyway

orchid lark
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Yeah

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Wolffs law as well

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Their bones may not be like ours

copper patrol
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they definitely aren't like ours

orchid lark
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Some of it would be harder or thicker in some places

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Since 90% of our blood comes from our bones

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There would need to be some changes

copper patrol
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my guess is 600-800 pounds or more

orchid lark
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For sure

uneven temple
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Not much about the primarchs makes that much hard sense even in universe

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Like sangiunius comes to the conclusion that his wings aren't big enough to let him fly but he can

orchid lark
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birds fly because of hollow their bones are

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but Sanguinius breaks daemon bones easier than his own bones broke

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Its just magic

brisk beacon
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Time to hit this PR boys

crimson kayak
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Considering space marines already have to brew toxic alcohol that shuts down both their kidneys and their anti-venom/poison gland just to get drunk, and they have to drink tons of it to stay drunk, I think a primarch could very well just be immune to 90% of substances

plush mason
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saw this in another server. 40k cosplay can get insane

green loom
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If only he'd done a better faction

plush mason
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lmao

storm jungle
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LMAO harsh

storm jungle
orchid lark
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yeah he giblets little thing gives off a very strong star wars look

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maybe its a repurposed cosplay?

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if so thats cool

crimson kayak
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That respirator box is definetly repurposed as the desth korps one is much more old school looking

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It's more like a satchel with the actual box inside

orchid lark
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a lunch pack

crimson kayak
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Yep, can confirm by looking at the veteran guards killteam that it's a satchel with something inside

orchid lark
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its their caprisun packets

green loom
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Being WW1 flavoured, it's probably based on one of these

plush mason
plush mason
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the tube and box is from a british ww1 gasmask

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while the facemask is german

storm jungle
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Those guys under the Murder-Curse aint lookin' so good

green loom
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Maybe it'll pad out the barebones WE Codex

storm jungle
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all I know is

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Black Templar fans are gonna go nuts lmao

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"NOOOO WE CANT FALL TO CORRUPTION WTF GW"

green loom
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They're the ones changed the least by the curse

storm jungle
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I dont know why that made me laugh that bad

green loom
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I mean think about it

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They're into that crazy-fanatic-murder thing by default

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Only thing stopping them from massacring friendlies is them being vaguely aligned, and even that doesn't stop them sometimes

vale shuttle
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aren't black templars just normal spess mareens

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cant they fall to corruption liek any other?

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because chaos corruption seems to be based on what you are not anything else for some reason :|

green loom
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They're very big Religious fanatics which gives them a pass with zeal

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So like sisters they usually die before they get a chance to be corrupted

vale shuttle
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fair enough

green loom
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But yeah

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You nudge them a bit and they go nuts

storm jungle
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yeah the Indomitus Fleet that got corrupted had both sisters and primaris marines fall

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theres an hilarious excerpt on it, 1 sec

green loom
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When other guard regiments though megachingryn

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Also is this what it means by Leviathan?

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storm jungle
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I THINK so

green loom
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I have to decide who's less annoying to validate, obnoxious khorne fans or obnoxious BT fans

storm jungle
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BT fans tbh

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mostly because almost 90% of them turn out to be weird crusade apologists and fascists

green loom
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They at least didn't get a gutted codex and some eh models

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So they're more deserving ig

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How come BT get special sculpts while DA just get stock Bladeguard to go with their literal returned Primarch thumbsdown_ogryn

plush mason
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because BT is a marginally more intersting chapter than DA :P

green loom
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Yeah I totally missed the rampant crappy crusader memes being repeated in a 40k costume....

plush mason
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i mean. its ether that or emo space knights with a secret

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the 2 chapters are 2 of the most uninspired of the all the SMs

vale shuttle
green loom
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DA do the knight monk look better, BT are just space crusaders

plush mason
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agreed

green loom
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Ig Helbrecht is cool, Grimaldus is cool as well but he never shows up anymore

plush mason
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but both are just knights thematically and most people find the crusader knights cooler than the non crusader ones

green loom
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They don't even do the crusader thing right

vale shuttle
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yeah they donit cannablise their troops after failing their logistics arm at all

storm jungle
plush mason
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they kinda do lol. the crusaders in the 1st crusade where just frothing madmen

vale shuttle
green loom
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You also can't forget the Peasant's crusade that marauded it's way through most of Southern Europe

storm jungle
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Crusader fans when they dont wanna accept that their "chad heroes" were just murderers that stole and raided valuables while killing innocent people in the name of Da Pope™️

plush mason
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lol

storm jungle
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ok ill stop KEK

green loom
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"I'm going to offer total divine absolution to a continent of murder-happy killers! What could go wrong?"

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As it turns out, lots of things

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I find it funny how BT and WE are kinda similar

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What with some of their traditions being straight up copied from the World Eaters by Siggy KEKW_ogryn

vale shuttle
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well the cult imperialis worships murder and genocide, so its adherents are already halfway to khorne worship

green loom
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Flashback to that short story of a loyalist cult being beaten out by a thinly-veiled Khornate cult that turned a bunch of guard not long after PA started

thick cedar
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So based on what we know. Whats the likely hood of us winning

green loom
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Who's "us"

orchid lark
thick cedar
green loom
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idfk that's why I'm asking

orchid lark
signal bramble
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Finally.

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I’ve been waiting for it on audible.

rose thorn
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I love necron characters

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I might just buy and paint them and shit

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Even though I don’t play necrons

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Szeras my beloved

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I love him

orchid lark
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One day the awesome as fuck Skorpekh Destroyer Lord will be available on its own

rose thorn
#

And the gay necrons

orchid lark
#

Also, I hope GW makes a Phaerakh model

rose thorn
#

Honestly idk shit about necrons

orchid lark
#

Phaerakh is just the term for female Phaerons

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the top bananas

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the closest I will get to a Phaerakh

rose thorn
#

OHhHh

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You can probably find bits online

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That were 3d printed

orchid lark
#

love their little wars and stuff

thick cedar
orchid lark
#

Im on Team Silent King, Imotekh Simps get out

rose thorn
#

I described them as infinitely powerful beings with sitcom tier issues

green loom
rose thorn
#

I might get that necron killtema

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The one that’s just

coarse pumice
#

this is one I hadn't seen before

rose thorn
#

2 characters and 2 sniper guys

rose thorn
orchid lark
#

Maugan Ra, also cool and badass

rose thorn
#

I LOVE THESE TWO

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AAAAAA

orchid lark
#

Man, I love saying the bodyguards name so much

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Vargard Obyron

rose thorn
#

Zahndrekh is a 10/10 name

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I loveee these old homosexuals

orchid lark
#

also probably the best coloured necrons

orchid lark
rose thorn
#

More like thsoe two form Sesame Street

coarse pumice
#

I think it's possible the sculpts that became the phoenix lords might have started as general senior exarchs
It's been in the back of my mind for years
as the models had just 'EXARCH' written on their slotta base
and only recently have I seen that JG sketch of what became Maugan Ra

signal bramble
arctic talon
#

Also the good old

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Old GW models used to be so unique for posing

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old GW models

topaz gate
#

Do any other races besides humans worship Chaos? Like Eldar, Orks, Tau etc

crimson kayak
orchid lark
#

Eldar cant, Orks cant, and Taus cant

orchid lark
coarse pumice
#

there were chaos Eldar before the fall, who worshipped the nascent Slaanesh

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there were some really old khorne Orks

celest dome
#

Tuska Daemon Killa is still there, though he isn't really a follower of Khorne

green loom
#

A lot of races that worshipped chaos got wiped out in the crusade

orchid lark
#

some Aliens do (maybe)

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the Saruthi were some from the Eisenhorn novels

green loom
#

Wed likely see more if the concept was explored more

signal bramble
#

Like the Laer that were snake aliens and worshipped Slaanesh before the crusade wiped them out. The writers will usually just make up some species solely for the purpose of getting wiped out.

green loom
#

At least the Laer had some plot impact

signal bramble
#

Yeah. :/

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Not sure what else they could do. Maybe a species that managed to survive and holds a grudge. Idk. We do know the crusade wiped out a ton of unnamed xenos species.

true rune
#

hey anyone remember the emperors map were they found a map of old terra on a alien world

crimson kayak
#

The one from Horus Rising?

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It was most probably from old Terra colonists considering its inside a bunker

austere frigate
#

Well what happened to the colonists

arctic talon
#

Dead

austere frigate
#

Good

rose thorn
#

If I were to get an HH army it would probably be alpha legion so I could just use them in 40k and get free upvotes for being semi lord accurate

crimson kayak
#

I'll never have the money to do it through lol

austere frigate
#

No one has money when you play Warhammer

arctic talon
#

False

austere frigate
#

How bout you tell me

arctic talon
#

My secret is I only buy a mini after I finish painting and building everything

kind hatch
#

Impossible, nobody can hold such power.

chilly creek
arctic talon
#

meh

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I work through my stuff fine lol

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and it keeps my costs lowish

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since I only really have 2 boxes of stuff at most

near wasp
#

im gonna get into it sometime

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either biulding necrons or marines

plush mason
signal bramble
#

These are some official objective markers released by GW. But look if you will to the one on the bottom right.

“Loyal men of the Astra Militarum, in the name of the god emperor you will defend the cardinal’s mobility pulpit with your lives!”

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plush mason
#

lol

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funny because true

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oh cool. Atoma Prime has atleast 3 moons

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and they small as fuck for a planet this size. man its rotation must be hella unstable

rose thorn
#

“Emperor protect the clock”

summer rover
#

top right's a clock, center and top are necron junk, pretty sure top right is a child's toy rigged to work a power transformer

#

"we must guard the omnissaih's spin'n'speak!"

plush mason
#

if i had to guess the top left is a cogitator of some kind

crisp heath
#

I mean top center seems to be an eternity gate, which is hilarious because it means that necron is just poking his head out to watch the battle and not really doing anything

plush mason
#

lol

upbeat dagger
#

doesnt darktide take place in like the 43rd millenium not the 41st?

arctic talon
upbeat dagger
#

AH

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oop

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ah

arctic talon
#

But yeah its weird

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or rather

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it can be confusing

plush mason
#

the in-universe date has been in the 41,000s for a few years afaik

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but ofc GW doesnt want to change the IP name to 41k lol

arctic talon
#

also Guilliman isn't even sure

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if the date is right

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and neither is anyone else

plush mason
#

that too

arctic talon
#

It’s off by 1000 years at least

thick cedar
#

Would surge staff be a lot more powerful in lore or is it nurgle resilience fuckery

celest dome
#

Psyker power level are very varied (Depend on the Psyker and stuff)

arctic talon
#

^

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But an actual like in lore full power smite

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Would prolly instantly evaporate most non boss enemies in game

celest dome
#

Smite would be a good Blitz or Ability tbh

arctic talon
#

Yeah

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Also perils are way less impactful in darktide then in lore

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Mostly since actual lore perils of the warp

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Are terrible for gameplay

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Or are too “benign”

celest dome
#

It's like in VT2, where they took 1 Peril only instead of doing them all

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Much easier

arctic talon
#

Ye

#

Also perils can just happen the first time you do anything

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As a psyker

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Which wouldn’t be very fun

celest dome
#

Yeah, you have to roll any time you use Warp power, thankfully in Fantasy you had 3 tables

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4 if you count the divine ones

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But you can still fully lose your character quite rapidly

signal bramble
#

Per the Angron book, the grey knights have maintained a clock and calendar that is 100% accurate even to the current date of the imperium. However they never bothered telling anyone and no one thinks to ask them.

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The book also never states the exact date and time either of course but it is apparently accurate.

crimson kayak
#

wich is why the new calendar is on a system by system basis lol

jagged monolith
#

Bit different from a pulpit

rose thorn
#

hey is the necromunda spider clan still at thing?

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i quite like the necromunda spiders regiemetnal themeing

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wow i selt that wrong

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SPElt

green loom
#

The Van Saar?

rose thorn
#

is that what theya re now?? i saw the necormunda spider regiment and i was like 'thats cool! whats the spider clan?'

#

the only mention on the lex i can find of them is the regiment lmao

celest dome
#

Nah they are a different thing

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Spider gang afaik was broken up, but encompassed many gangs from the different families, iirc the Van Saar for example had been noted of being some of their Weapon Specialist

rose thorn
#

oh cool

celest dome
#

The old Necromunda game had a Spider "faction/gang", I'll have a look again

summer rover
#

it's a pseudo-cult on a few planets with basically no details known about it. the cult of the emperor has given it permission to exist and that's about it.

rose thorn
#

oh god is this one of those situations where theres like 3 mentions of it and they are all completely differnet

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i know of the literal spider that lives on the planet

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i think theres a gang

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and theres the regiment

summer rover
#

now you're getting warhammer lore!

celest dome
#

The Necromundan Spider are still present to the current Necromunda lore, as the Deserter was one

rose thorn
#

sidenote damn the necromunda guard is a cool idea

#

its not a crime if its in the name of the emperor

celest dome
#

The Emp. doesn't really care about what happen in the lower hives

rose thorn
#

fuck i forgot how terrible the necormunda guns are

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WHAT IS THIS

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WTF IS THIS

#

yOUR GONNA FIRE A SHOT AND ALL YORU BULLETS ARE GONNA FALL OUT

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OH HEY THERES ACTUAL NECROMUNDA SPIDER REGIMENT MODELS

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in necormunda

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lady on the right

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has the regimental colors and symbols

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house greim?

#

okay so the House Greim Military Attachés have a link to the necromunda spiders

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or at least the regiment

storm jungle
#

yeah thats where her helmet is from

celest dome
#

Afaik there are 3 that are linked to it

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Her, the Deserter, and iirc one of the Squats ?

rose thorn
#

hey guys, welcome to necromunda theory

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We are gonna ask the question

#

what REALLY happened to the necromunda spider clan?

rose thorn
celest dome
rose thorn
#

The idea that there is at least a small amount of necromunda guard that use to be in the corpse grinder cults

#

is infinitly funny to me

celest dome
#

Not sure they would be in it

#

Like they come from a Merchant Guild

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Like the Water Guild and the Squat Miner guild

summer rover
#

i like how the necromunda regiment's lasguns are clearly laser kalishnikovs.

crystal forum
queen laurel
# storm jungle

Ok that has to be like what, the the fourth soldier group in the imperium that has a gas mask?

summer rover
#

all of them have ti as an option, it's a matter of if they deploy them or not.

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mordians have them but they're not connected to any helmet so you don't usually see them.

crimson kayak
# storm jungle

that's some unholy combination of a lasgun and a bolter if i ever saw one

crystal forum
celest dome
queen laurel
crimson kayak
#

also the spider clan still gives soldier to the 8th regiment doesn't it?

crystal forum
crimson kayak
#

i mean, an underhiver can be just as bad as any other imperial citizen

crystal forum
#

well at least the average imperial trying to stab you for your rations will have less chances of winning

crimson kayak
#

i mean, if you are in an underhive and you are not from the underhive im pretty sure you are either incredibly stupid/desperate or know you have more than a chance against gangers and the like

#

if both are from the underhive then you are just playing on equal footing and your chances to get shanked are just a skill issue

crystal forum
#

i wonder if gentrification of underhives is an issue in 40k

copper patrol
#

define issue

celest dome
copper patrol
#

like an issue that they care about

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no

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something that happens

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probably

crystal forum
#

rich hive nobles buying cheap underhive property and converting it into apartment complexes

#

anybody got any suggestions on what should be the first 40k model i obtain

celest dome
#

Any army in particular ?

copper patrol
#

what ever you think looks the coolest

crystal forum
#

i might do a tank since they don't have a lot of complexe shapes

celest dome
#

Steam tank then clown_hadron

rose thorn
#

okay so

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turns ou

#

t

#

GW yellow

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and army painter yellow

#

are both equally terrible

shadow plover
#

hence you go for vallejo yellow with hobby paints

rose thorn
#

ye a hobby lobby near by sells vallejo

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next tmie ill go pick up thiers

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or use orange

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ok fuck it im getting my orange and going over the yellow

#

OMG OTANGE LOOKS SO FUCKING BETTER

#

WTF I WAS WORRIED ORANGE WOULDNT LOOK RIGHT

summer rover
#

orange looks a lot better if it has a warm undercoat.

#

i think pink works best

rose thorn
#

i just wanted a replacement for yellow

#

i might need to use a lighter red

#

i love the necromunda regiments, just the astra militarum shoving thier hand into hte necromunda gangs, grab a shit load of people, and shove them into unifroms

celest dome
#

The Imperial Fist also do it

rose thorn
#

oh yea

plush mason
# celest dome The Imperial Fist also do it

someone told me that use to be a rule in the TT. had to make a roll at the end of the round and if you failed the highest preforming model in that round would be taken out of the match lol

celest dome
#

Iirc it was a scenario rule

plush mason
#

i dont play the TT so you would know more than me most likely

#

i just find it funny that the fists "recruit" the gangers by watching the gang wars and clubbing the most promising ones over the head after the battle lol

celest dome
#

It's not stranger than what most other Legion does

plush mason
#

yeah but it is funny

celest dome
#

Does mean that they take their recruit while they are older than some other Legion

plush mason
#

yeah

#

but it also means their recruits are better conditioned for warfare i guess

celest dome
#

The Space Wolves do the same as the IF, just that as they don't really have any Hive their ganger are tribal warriors

plush mason
#

iirc the blood ravens hold "blood trials" which are just gladiatorial fights for their prospective recruits

celest dome
#

True, but it mean that its organised like that, while both IF and SW just go and watch actual l/unrelated fights to pick their recruit

plush mason
#

yeah

celest dome
#

I wonder how they take the recruit though. Like do they sprint on the battle field and just yoink them away or do they do it stealthy and just join the prospect at a bar, roofies them and take them away

plush mason
#

good question

orchid lark
#

in space wolves, Wolf Priests wait in Thunderhawks whilst watching two tribes fight to the death

#

surviving boys under 13-15 are then taken

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even if they were mortal enemies

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For Imperial Fists or most chapters who recruit from hiveworlds they kinda do the same

#

wait for a gang war to break out

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look for survivors or arrest them

#

and youre a okay

#

but on Terra and Inwit for Imperial Fists the kids have to go to like some place known for recruitment

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and survive the journey

#

Blood Angels have all the kids leave their villages and journey to Angels Fall

#

if they survive they are then grouped into twos and are then forced to fight each other

#

the chaplain then has to "make" the winner kill the loser

#

if the winner does try to kill the loser, they are not chosen

crisp heath
#

The Chad Night Lords making a planet wide hunger games scenario to collect the 25 strongest people on the world

orchid lark
#

the idea for blood angels is the whole, Sanguinius even in his dying breathe still tried to get Horus to be good again

#

you journeyed through the hell hole that is Baal Primus with these other kids, you should have a sense of camaraderie

#

some of their successors probably do it too

arctic talon
#

Flesh tearers do something similar iirc

orchid lark
#

but Flesh Tearers and Raven Guard got those warrior tests, Turok shit

arctic talon
#

except cretacia is arguably an even bigger shit hole

#

and also they usually don't care if you murder them lmao

gloomy citrus
#

Don't forget the pain glove.

plush mason
#

the magic pain glove

odd palm
#

The perfect meditation device

coarse pumice
green loom
#

I wonder if Grimdank has cooled it a bit on the AoS hate

#

Or if they're still stuck in like 1st Ed AoS and the memes that came with that

plush mason
#

its a sub-reddit. there is no telling

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how long did it take grimdank to go back to being a 40k subreddit btw

summer rover
#

i mean, most people that hated it still hate it, but there's better things to do than care and it seems to keep getting stupider without anyone helping anyway

storm jungle
storm jungle
arctic talon
#

The people who never played the fantasy tabletop game

#

But hate GW over fantasy dying are weird

#

They’re objectively the reason why fantasy died

#

Because it literally wasn’t profitable to maintain as a game

crisp heath
#

To be fair, most people of those probably only ever heard of warhammer fantasy through total warhammer, vermintide, and maybe vermintide

arctic talon
#

Yeah

#

Which don’t make that much money for GW

#

Compared to the miniature market

#

Which is why imo warhammer the old world might be doomed to fail if they don’t fix warhammer fantasy’s fundamental issues as a tabletop game

crisp heath
#

would suck to get invested in that setting then find out it's all pretty much gone with a set storyline that says everyone dies, limiting other potential virtual forays, and the successor setting potentially straight up ignores some of the factions people may have liked

arctic talon
#

The fact that everyone dies in vermintide is an appeal imo

#

What they do is ultimately worthless

#

But they do it anyways

#

Even against the worst odds

#

And as a tabletop game warhammer fantasy sort of sucked ass

#

Mostly since you needed so much chaff

#

Like an insane amount of it

#

Like

crisp heath
#

GW may make most of their money from minis but should that be the be all end all to a setting? And even if it were, it seems obvious GW is trying to expand into other markets regardless, because otherwise they wouldn't be licensing out to literally any dev who asks, trying to start their own streaming service, etc.

arctic talon
#

You’d be looking at buying at least 500$ of chaff infantry per army at least

arctic talon
#

GW as a company has changed a ton

#

Nowadays they don’t only care about selling minatures

#

They communicate to the community

#

And they actually do shit

#

Instead of just not saying a thing and shitting out more crap for consumers to buy

#

GW has improved a ton as a company

#

Old GW wouldn’t even consider rebooting old systems like the current one has

crisp heath
arctic talon
#

Fantasy you had to have that chaff

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Or else you couldn’t play

#

The rules fundamentally didn’t work

#

You could literally play a really simplified 40k game with 2 boxes of units if you wanted

#

That was impossible for fantasy

#

Fantasy was objectively a failure as a game system

crisp heath
#

Fantasy probably should have been made in something closer to an epic scale considering the historical formation fighting it seems to have been made to try to replicate

storm jungle
arctic talon
#

Which is why GW tried their best

#

To turn it into an actual functioning game

copper patrol
#

wasn't warmaster a thing

arctic talon
#

(They failed and they angered their existing fanbase)

#

Because all of a sudden

#

Thousands of dollars of people’s armies

#

Became unplayable

#

Fantasy was a system that was impossible to get into

#

And impossible to change properly

storm jungle
#

I was around when fantasy got nuked and literally everyone hated the game.

#

and now as Elit3 said when its gone they acted like they loved it

arctic talon
#

As a setting

storm jungle
arctic talon
#

It was great

#

A+

storm jungle
#

Yeah and the setting is still great

#

AND

arctic talon
#

As a game

#

uh

storm jungle
#

its still getting RPG supplements and shit

arctic talon
#

Yeah I think I’d rather eat rusted nails

#

Then play WHFB

#

Because rolling a 1

#

And then losing half your battle line

#

Is very funny

#

And not infuriating at all

storm jungle
#

FUN

arctic talon
#

Especially since it’ll make your other battle line

#

Totally not run away

#

Because they now have an exposed flank

summer rover
#

i always enjoy playing WFB, i won't play 8th edition tho. stupudly unbalanced.

arctic talon
#

And then your artillery totally won’t need to take a morale test

arctic talon
#

For fantasy

#

I do wonder what edition warhammer the old world

#

Will build off of

summer rover
#

sounds like someone played skaven and expected them to not be skaven. lul

#

they said it'll be pulled from all editions, but 8th pissed off the most people so probably a mix of 6th and 7th.

arctic talon
#

But it was such an outlier

#

I don’t even care

#

I fucked up

#

Lul

arctic talon
#

If I was playing skaven then yeah

#

I’m beholden to RNG lol

crystal forum
#

twitter found 40k lore the other day huh

uneven temple
#

twitter

arctic talon
#

I haven't seen shit

crystal forum
arctic talon
#

its almost like it has many critiques on Facism

crystal forum
#

it was even dumber than that

arctic talon
#

lol

crystal forum
#

they took a surface level look and concluded that the nids are actually jewish caricatures

arctic talon
#

what

#

How*

#

enj;daw

#

what

#

Jewish people are not an all consuming horde that are hyper adaptive insects part of a hive mind

queen laurel
#

Like what type of f****** thinking did they have to think of that

summer rover
#

man, that is some isreali minister levels of seeking jew-hate.

vale shuttle
#

like i think there's a good dozen or so problems with 40k and how it integrates fascism to the setting, but nids are like...animals.

#

they're not a charicature or allegory for any real group

stable stag
#

if twitter found 40k its just a matter of time before theres a Slaaneshi burlesque revue

#

unrelated, but I found out that although my library doesnt have any WH40k in print, they do have at the very least False Gods in eBook format. I have mixed feelings about ebooks but if it saves me the space of thirty paperbacks and the cost associated, then I am open to it

odd palm
stable stag
odd palm
#

I mean I wouldn’t worry about it.
Audio is my preference tbh, ebooks are just handy for word searching and referencing

desert dust
signal bramble
#

I prefer the book in hand as well but once I made the switch to audiobooks it was just too convenient to not do full time. I listen to it during my commute to work and when I’m doing something that’s physical and doesn’t require a lot of focus.

arctic talon
#

Orks in 40k are literally british

#

like

#

through and through

signal bramble
#

Warhammer Orks were specifically designed to be cockney football hooligans.

#

And every book that looks at their culture is a joy to read.

desert dust
#

Yeah orks are British and orcs from war craft are tribal honour culture's

odd palm
#

Has anyone picked up the new Ork book?
Iirc it’s essentially a Warboss battle royale

desert dust
#

I don't see how Twitter thinks they are just black people.
From where there's like 5 million different cultures that have black people

signal bramble
#

It was great.

#

I just finished it 2~ days ago.

stable stag
signal bramble
#

My audible currently.

odd palm
#

Good to hear, I’ve been eyeing it for a while

signal bramble
#

Thanks to audible I was able to read way more novels than I ever could have otherwise. Plus let’s me pass on my not insignificant amount of lore knowledge. XD

stable stag
#

I'll give it a shot! I've got a few different podcasts I rotate through, my commute now is short enough that that works best. I generally associate audio books with long family road trips, perhaps with the right material I can re-frame htat

crisp heath
#

The "orcs are black people" critique comes from D&D where it's actually a pretty apt observation lol

signal bramble
crisp heath
#

The racism and sexism in old D&D is one of the things pathfinder tried to fix

signal bramble
queen laurel
#

I swear to god some people are so dumb

summer rover
signal bramble
#

This isn’t really the place for it.

queen laurel
summer rover
#

there's a lot of weird people that think it's less racist to make things more racist and i don't get it.

signal bramble
#

I’d rather talk 40k lore. ^_^

queen laurel
queen laurel
signal bramble
#

The nano machines multiplied in their body and very bad things happened.

queen laurel
summer rover
#

the 40k writers are not a clever bunch

desert dust
signal bramble
signal bramble
summer rover
#

also hive tyrants are probably uncontrollable because whatever you do has to overcome the hive mind's connection and if you're that strong it's head will probably pop

queen laurel
#

I wouldn't try putting metal on my stomach

signal bramble
#

15 hours has got some good character moments but you basically know exactly what’s going to happen.

#

You’ll get emotionally invested but it has absolutely no twists or turns.

desert dust
#

Yeah I read the back of the book and it's guardsmen get sent to a warzone where people live a average of 15 hours.
I can guess what happens

#

Probably similar to guants ghost armor of contempt with the young guy

signal bramble
desert dust
#

Will have to listen to it.
I like those books normally

signal bramble
#

It does provide a good look at the difference between what new guardsmen are told vs the gritty reality.

desert dust
#

Yeah I like the guants ghosts books and the latest audio book to come out had a lot of that

#

Also any good iron warriors books?
I like angel exterminartis and storm of iron

crisp heath
#

There are humans who digest steel just fine, I'd imagine metal is part of the kroot diet

signal bramble
green loom
#

Space chicken salmonella

rose thorn
#

Omg with the new hq attached to unit rules if they don’t change the word bearer artifact, crown of the blasphemer, it’s gonna be fucking insanely over powered

#

They are probably gonna change it

#

But 4+ save cultist horde would’ve funny

signal bramble
rose thorn
#

Ah okay

green loom
#

End times is almost 10 years old thumbsup_ogryn

open pumice
#

yet

#

never forget what they took form us

celest dome
#

Never accuse AoS though

#

It's innocent

heavy bison
#

I like the AoS minis, but like, I don't get the trashing of the old lore.

celest dome
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AoS is innocent in the matter to what happened to the Old World

echo vault
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I forget but in fantasy/AoS do orcs follow the same fungal spore thing

celest dome
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Yes

echo vault
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makes sense

vale shuttle
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fungal Orks are cool and im sad they don't photosynthesize

crimson kayak
coarse pumice
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it's why their skin is green

crimson kayak
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yep

copper patrol
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they still eat tho iirc

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have food squigs and everything

odd palm
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If it exists, there's a squig of it.....probably

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Tho everyone knows, the hair squig is the best squig

green loom
copper patrol
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bro got that schmove

coarse pumice
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is that what they call hive tyrants these days?

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or is a new unit?

shadow plover
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tyranid primes are an old unit, now it comes with a winged option

coarse pumice
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is it between a hive tyrant and warrior in size?

shadow plover
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it's pretty much warrior sized

coarse pumice
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ah ok

shadow plover
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the old prime unit was built from the warrior kit

coarse pumice
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like a warrior HQ I guess?

shadow plover
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ye

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iirc the cheapest tyranid HQ

coarse pumice
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i can't remember if I had them when I played tyranids

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I'm pretty sure I ran with a hive tyrant

orchid lark
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Gonna see them a bunch in Space Marine 2 I reckon

signal bramble
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But the arks detachment made that unnecessary.

brisk beacon
# green loom

this mf ripped that damn terminator in half in pieces little too op ngl

green loom
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Genestealers eat terminators regularly

signal bramble
crystal forum
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makes you wonder why they'd waste rare terminators when it doesn't offer any more protection against them

green loom
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I mean it might be because they're usually on space hulks or cqc, and terminators are very well suited for both

summer rover
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it's mostly that if you can get them on an open field they die pretty easy. people tend to forget they're meant to be used on fields with terrian, not their "two hills and a tree" dollar store battlefield.

crystal forum
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it really feels like they use terminators just because you can fit storm bolters on them

languid salmon
storm jungle
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have you seen marine players that get mad that a genestealer can insta-kill them and tear their armor

green loom
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So many things can instakill terminators

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Including wooden spears and rippers thumbsup_ogryn

summer rover
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normal power armor doesn't protect at all, terminator armor provides some protection. also lets them heft around assult cannons and heavy flamers one-handed.

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genestealers do not like heavy flamers.

crystal forum
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named characters don't need helmets because they have plot armour

green loom
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What's his name

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Karlaen

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Goes around boasting he'll die when the Emperor says so, and thus doesn't bother wearing a helmet

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He's gotten acid burns and other random shit mashed into it and he's still kicking

arctic talon
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Tbh

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If it’s worked so far

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Also Tyranid Primes were the best tyranid hq for a bit this edition

summer rover
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i think primes were kinda silly. you could just use warriors as-is

arctic talon
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Tbh

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Cheap 85 points HQ + re-rolling wounds is good

languid salmon
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Tyranid primes are good as people keep forgetting it’s not just a tyranid warrior and can do some damage if people don’t pay attention to it

chilly creek
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I guess this one will be a bit more noticeable unless it's in with some winged warriors tho

green loom
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Wouldn't be surprised, iirc still a lot of Nids left to be revealed

storm jungle
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I need the gene-hunters

chilly creek
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True

storm jungle
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the ones that are eating all that gene-seed

chilly creek
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Though the rules box will probably be known at the weekend

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Since it's Warhammer Fest etc.

green loom
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I want more gurd

storm jungle
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You'll take your fat leman russ and be happy

green loom
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Happy might be pushing it but maybe content

crimson kayak
celest dome
languid salmon
storm jungle
crystal forum
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baneblades are so cool

queen laurel
plush mason
coarse pumice
green loom
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AI art looks like this

crystal forum
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i found the files to print a baneblade

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it will take me like 4 days to print fully staregryn

storm jungle
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A small price to pay

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Also we really need Thanosgryn at some point

versed ledge
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Wait...a full on 3D printed baneblade?

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Nice

meager zinc
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Hit me with dat lore yall: wtf is goin on with the Leagues of Votann?