Probably making snide comments to malcador on who to keep an eye on who
#40k-lore-chat
orchid lark
“Hmm perhaps this one could do with a full refresh.”
“Missing genetic augmentations? Start again I guess.” When looking at dorn.
“Why are half of them fucking bald.”
near wasp
"even i the great emperor of man kind cannot stop male pattern baldness"
orchid lark
Just calls the bald ones defects
vale shuttle
someone posted a trans flag colour sister of battle to the 40k subreddit and it's a warground
sometimes i regret being a part of the 40k community, i really do
vale shuttle
but dilara
||this channel isn't active enough for me to get all the 40k content i need injected directly into my veins||
||and neither is sigmarxism||
vale shuttle
"ohohoh. you see, you are not respectful of people who do not believe you deserve human rights. ahahaha, this means YOU are the real bigots. check and mate."
storm jungle
kill me
queen laurel
someone posted a trans flag colour sister of battle to the 40k subreddit and it'...
You see, here's your first mistake you went to reddit
vale shuttle
i wonder what their response would be if i said "Men should be taken to special camps where they'll all be castrated without anaesthetic." probably like "wtf that's so weird you freak" and i'd just be like "how dare you call me a freak, this is the marketplace of ideas and you can't use that kind of language"
fuck im frustrated
vale shuttle
You see, here's your first mistake you went to reddit
i'm sorry i know it's a sin i know, but i got hooked on this shit when i was 14 and playing dark souls 2 and i cant stop
copper patrol
vale shuttle
Slaanesh exists.
What do you mean by this?
gloomy citrus
What do you mean by this?
Do I really need to explain, or even answer?
vale shuttle
Yes.
queen laurel
i'm sorry i know it's a sin i know, but i got hooked on this shit when i was 14 ...
I've use reddit but only solving very specific problems i've had
storm jungle
Do I really need to explain, or even answer?
Is this another lame "haha sex" punchline
queen laurel
If you're going to browse there prepare to at least wear a hazmat suit made of the armor plating
gloomy citrus
Is this another lame "haha sex" punchline
Slaanesh isn't just sex.
vale shuttle
I've use reddit but only solving very specific problems i've had
"xyz computer problem reddit" is the fastest way to find a solution to your tech woes
vale shuttle
Slaanesh isn't just sex.
Okay, and?
What relevance does Slaanesh have to this conversation about transgender people and the 40k community's response to them?
queen laurel
"xyz computer problem reddit" is the fastest way to find a solution to your tech...
Hey they also pretty good at finding specific vr chat skins
And yes i played vr chat
Trust me i am very bored as f***
vale shuttle
Hey they also pretty good at finding specific vr chat skins
And yes i played vr ...
||i've tried to get into VR chat but i just can't||
||i even commissioned a friend to make me a bird in a coat avaatar||
queen laurel
||i've tried to get into VR chat but i just can't||
You did what you think was right
Let me tell you some people there are so stupid
I'm just going to be blunt
I received enough brain damage to deal with this crap everyday
vale shuttle
i just wanted a place to hang out and meet people after the other place i did that kinda stuff became really hostile to me
but VR chat is hard to work with, and i get kinda anxious so that doens't help
queen laurel
but VR chat is hard to work with, and i get kinda anxious so that doens't help
Considering that the place is a breeding ground of many types of people it's very hard to get acquainted with them
Eboys, egirls, people who will assume that you are racist
People who will assume that you are homophobic
It's a lot of people to choose from
Finding very nice people in the game is very refreshing but
Not always the case
green loom
This reminds me of the time Colrouphobia drew a fem marine and a female scion and people went apeshit
green loom
It's hilarious because that's in response to the "Warhammer is for everyone" thing, where it straight up says "we will never condone any form of prejudice, hatred or abuse in our company or hobby"
celest dome
It's hilarious because that's in response to the "Warhammer is for everyone" thi...
It's the tolerance paradox
Usually if someone use it, they deserve to be thrown out
green loom
green loom
Been scrounging through OPs stuff, sadly most of the idiots get banned because theyre too stupid to be subtle, so I can't laugh at them
But I did find this and it's one kickass scheme
crisp heath
whats the lore reason as to why space marines arent sent in to do our missions? One of the characters says "A couple of space marines could clear through this place no problem" and it got me thinking
summer rover
the gets no bitches chapter
crisp heath
are they not as common/only used for higher priority missions
summer rover
whats the lore reason as to why space marines arent sent in to do our missions? ...
they aren't telling us, but i think it's probably because the marines will find out why the admech have made so many dudes with tubes in them that fell to chaos and mutated.
and have medical servitors installed every 300 feet like some kinda luxery world.
i'm like 95% that the offical reports on the main battlefield (there's an actual war going on outside we're not involved in) are "success close" and calling for astartes support would look REALLY suspect if that were true. also the local chapter are dark angels successors who tend to pry.
celest dome
whats the lore reason as to why space marines arent sent in to do our missions? ...
They aren't available
crisp heath
i'm like 95% that the offical reports on the main battlefield (there's an actual...
that makes sense
summer rover
seriously, why are there so many cybered mutant dudes with goo-injectors? even necromunda doesn't do this shit nd they're necromunda.
crisp heath
vermintide had dlc that added new enemy factions, any guesses as to which factions could be added in the future? 😮
summer rover
gangers maybe, i'd expect more varaiety in the existing factions though. there's a LOT of room for new stuff between the guard and cult rosters.
green loom
whats the lore reason as to why space marines arent sent in to do our missions? ...
A)there's only around 1 million Astartes in the galaxy, maybe a bit more now, we're far more plentiful
B)Grendyll likely has no jurisdiction to order an Astartes chapter away from defending something else, and it looks like the Area we're in lacks a chapter anyway
C) it isn't that critical
D) they're busy putting out the raging shitshow that is the 13th Black Crusade
summer rover
haven't even seen the opening mutant yet.
celest dome
vermintide had dlc that added new enemy factions, any guesses as to which factio...
Other Chaos Cults, each with their own origin and mechanic
summer rover
that'd be funny, enter the market and the two cults are going at it while the scabs watch.
celest dome
Well you could have the Cultist argue, like how the Skaven and Northlander sometime can be seen discussing in VT2
summer rover
"are we gonna stop this ricardo?""
"guard doesn't handle domestic disputes, enricque. wait for loyalists to show up and shoot them"
green loom
A scab assassination mission where the scabs are complaining about the two cults clashing in the background, lamenting they don't have anymore regiments at their back
celest dome
I want a Khornate Enforcer Cult, with better melee dudes, kinda like how the BM are in VT2
And having shields and stuff, but at the cost of having less ranged units
crisp heath
im not sure how out of left field it would be, but fighting tyranids would be pretty sick tbh
xenomorph-like specials that crawl above you in vents and you can hear their screeches and thumping before they try to grab you from above
celest dome
I'm against Tyr/GSC, they would make no sense alongside most if not all the current maps and enemies
crisp heath
tru lol
copper patrol
GSC would be the most likely, but they'd also likely be entirely seperate
celest dome
They aren't really the most likely
Like they are somewhat as likely as any of the 3 Chaos Cult
Somewhat less if anything due to not being able to be made allies with the current roster
green loom
Maybe as a big DLC
celest dome
Don't think they will put those kind of content behind dlc
As they don't want to separate thecommunity
crimson kayak
yeah let's remember they were planning for darktide to be a live service
brisk beacon
it would be pretty cool if we can get missions where we see Astartes helping us as a cutscene to learn more about the lore
green loom
We won't
brisk beacon
missions in darktide get repetitive after a while would be cool if they integrate more lore elements
green loom
Maybe scions or other imperium forces
brisk beacon
yeah joint ops with militarium maybe
crimson kayak
maybe a bigger setpiece during an active battle, but i don't think astartes would fit the game
storm jungle
whats the lore reason as to why space marines arent sent in to do our missions? ...
Basically because plot
Marines can and will do any missions assigned to them including cultist uprisings
they just arent here because this isnt their game
green loom
And because why would you waste marines on killing some captain mook
storm jungle
No like marines can d othat
crimson kayak
distance and comms, remember that the mourningstar too arrived late
brisk beacon
open field battle imagine mission wth trecnhes with death korps
green loom
Only if I get to shoot the death korps
crimson kayak
open field battle imagine mission wth trecnhes with death korps
yeah we'll surely not meet other known regiments
brisk beacon
Only if I get to shoot the death korps
brisk beacon
yeah we'll surely not meet other known regiments
you neve know
green loom
German or French I still want them dead
green loom
We'll be bailing them out like the DA
crimson kayak
you neve know
plot wise reinforcement of any kind would render our job moot
green loom
Maybe not after we've gained more trust
Like our guys are still pretty lethal killers and loyal to Grendyll to boot
crimson kayak
Maybe not after we've gained more trust
it's more because it would create a disbalance of forces
green loom
Oh right yeah the 6th would just die
celest dome
German or French I still want them dead
German and French, I want them dead
crimson kayak
yeah, we wouldn't even need to call people far, the moebian domain is chock-full or deployed regiments
shadow plover
we will be going but will we be returning
plush mason
i wonder if this means we could recruit a druhkari to our crew
arctic talon
probably not
shadow plover
maybe a corsair though
plush mason
yeah
rose thorn
i li ke the new pykers
they are doing it kilteam style
where psychic attacks are just weapon profiles
and then some abilities just work
and then others still rqeuire a roll
arctic talon
It’s gona suck for eldar and thousand sons
Unless they get huge compensation buffs
Or the psychic powers are elsewhere
queen laurel
i wonder if this means we could recruit a druhkari to our crew
I would want to recruit an ork
They could be a decent tank
That deal high damage
signal bramble
It’s gona suck for eldar and thousand sons
I assumed their psyker powers would probably be a bit stronger.
Like a higher minimum damage or higher maximum.
rose thorn
It’s gona suck for eldar and thousand sons
If I had to guess there would probably be powerful subfaction/faction locked abilities
That’s like
if model has pyker key word chose x amount below
add so and so to so and so
yadaydada
thick cedar
Is there a reaosn Psyker fire is called "Soulfire" or is it that because it sounds cool
queen laurel
A lot of things in warhammer are just called what they are because it's cool
vale shuttle
if you'd like an in-universe reason it's called "soulfire" because psyker abilities utilise the warp: AKA the sea of souls. indeed, psychic fire is actually burning souls in order to be manifested.
i just made this up but it can be canon in your heart
queen laurel
i just made this up but it can be canon in your heart
Honestly this can be pretty much anyone's assumption
We do convert warp energy as fire
If you're a psyker anyway
vale shuttle
the warp is made up of souls, and since you need to use warp-energy to manifest psychic powers it makes sense that it burns souls. aka soulfire. but honestly the reasonn is probably because it's cool.
queen laurel
the warp is made up of souls, and since you need to use warp-energy to manifest ...
Then Orks use their psychic stupidity to manifest stuff
vale shuttle
but dontr let that ruin your headcanons folks, if your headcanon adds to your enjoyment of the setting love it. tend to it. nurture it. feed it little bits of lore. and watch as it grows until one day you've convinced enough people that your headcanon is real lore that it becomes the community-understood manifestation of the lore. then it'll become the real lore. then you will have won.
queen laurel
but dontr let that ruin your headcanons folks, if your headcanon adds to your en...
That's one hell of a advice
vale shuttle
if you can get enough people to believe your headcanon, eventually it'll become canon.
odd palm
Yalma truly has adopted the greenskin philosophy 😮
worldly gull
why people hating on horus? what he do?
vale shuttle
horus is a bit of a goofy little guy who maybe helped doom the entire galaxy by executing the horus heresy. what a silly!
(i dont udnderstand your question can you please provide more context?)
worldly gull
What is horus heresy?
Why did it doom the galaxy? Doesn't everyone execute everyday? 😮
vale shuttle
the horus heresy was the giant civil war between the "traitor" and "loyalist" primarchs. horus lead the traitor primarchs, and the traitor primarchs were empowered by and manipulated by the forces of chaos. the war began at the end of the great crusade and ended with the emperor being killed and put onto the golden throne.
the horus heresy is one of a few different "galaxy-ruining" events, and if you're the imperium or a big fan of the imperium it's the easiest one to identify. its scale was so vast and its destruction so massive that it irrevocably set the imperium of man on the path to ruin and destitution. it also took the emperor out of the picture, and if you believe the emperor was a cool and good guy that's another reason it ruined the galaxy
crisp heath
Horus got mad at his dad because his nephew stole a knife that a rando used to stab him, so he sold his soul to 4 distinct devils and convinced half the space marines that being soulless kicks ass, actually
odd palm
Doesn’t help that Horus very quickly changed from a character to a plot device shortly into the book series named after him
desert dust
It's when ego and daddy issues collide
vale shuttle
yes horus has a few out-of-universe problems like the fact the reason he decided to start a civil war is because he got chaos'd by a magic ritual instead of anytthing more substantial
unfortunately when they started the 1349 book series that is the horus heresy they thought it'd be llike 6 books long so they kinda rushed horus' conversion
crisp heath
The first horus heresy book had him complaining about taxes and I was so hoping that the Horus Heresy started as a tax dispute
desert dust
I don't mind it because at least to where I have read up to.
Horus has such a big ego that he thinks he's still in control and is just using them as tools to end the civil war as fast as possible
odd palm
The first horus heresy book had him complaining about taxes and I was so hoping ...
Lodges a court dispute XD
The HH turns out to just be a class action lawsuit
crisp heath
Horus "No Taxation Without Representation" Heresy
worldly gull
wait so he was taxed and didnt like it?
So after he started shit, did the imperium turn into the bad guys?
don't they just nuke the invested hive planets usually?
Is the emporer a god or a dead dude on the golden throne? Are pyshkers the golden child cause they feed the throne energy to keep the magic going? Is it the emporer or is it the psykers keeping it going? Whats the truth? Why doesn't any give a straight answer?
Ima be real, this game is my first introduction to 40k, i only know orks cause they cute
Do humans get made in science labs cause slanish is heresy, so like is making babies bad?
worldly gull
): That's why i struggle with the lore, these types of videos disengage me. Warhammer is so ugly, sadly, so it's hard to get into the series, especially with visual videos showing the uglyness!
People are going to think I'm trolling but i try to talk to people online, cause its easier to digest, there's also soooooo much lore, it's easier to just talk about it slowly when possible.
Anyways, its ugly AF to look at, took me a month to not be afraid of playing this game. I come from cozy games like animal crossing, this is my first scary shooting game. 😮
The game is hella fun though! After getting over the gore and uglyness, I love doing a quick mission with friends or randos on discord. 😄
signal bramble
don't they just nuke the invested hive planets usually?
They do not.
worldly gull
Also love everyone shouting out random lore bits for the meme
signal bramble
Tertium is just one hive city on a planet with multiple. It doesn’t make sense to wipe out a whole planet for that.
The whole destroy every planet thing is a meme. In reality, they’d rather retake a planet and its infrastructure intact whenever possible.
worldly gull
Who's cleaning up the messes? The hives cities look nasty AF
signal bramble
Who's cleaning up the messes? The hives cities look nasty AF
No one.
worldly gull
Is that why theres incense everywhere? To mask the nasty smells? XD
signal bramble
If it’s chaos corrupted they will send in teams with flamethrowers.
crisp heath
The incense is for prayers
signal bramble
Is that why theres incense everywhere? To mask the nasty smells? XD
Incense is needed to run the machines as well.
worldly gull
how does the incense run the machines?
crisp heath
Tech priests and normal priests both burn incense
signal bramble
Is the emporer a god or a dead dude on the golden throne? Are pyshkers the golde...
We don’t know.
It’s never confirmed one way or the other.
worldly gull
I bet its so they smell around them better, they just made it up so they can get access to good scents
crisp heath
They pray to the machines, and believe the incense helps cleansing prayers
They may not be wrong
worldly gull
Why do they have a religion, don't they know the emprorer didn't like that?
signal bramble
how does the incense run the machines?
Because the tech priests believe the reason a car works is because you pray to it and burn the right kind of incense. Not because of the engine or wiring, etc.
signal bramble
Why do they have a religion, don't they know the emprorer didn't like that?
That knowledge was lost.
worldly gull
Because the tech priests believe the reason a car works is because you pray to i...
WAIT SO TECHPRIEST HAVE HUGE ORK ENERGY THEN!!!
worldly gull
That knowledge was lost.
Was that horus's fault?
signal bramble
WAIT SO TECHPRIEST HAVE HUGE ORK ENERGY THEN!!!
Not exactly.
signal bramble
Was that horus's fault?
I guess, yeah?
crisp heath
Tech priests got to keep their religion because they struck a deal with the Emperor, Imperials have a religion because Emperor worship became big during the Horus Heresy and then Emps died so no one was around to tell them no
signal bramble
Big E being a deity spread over time and his desire to have a rational science driven society was forgotten about.
signal bramble
Tech priests got to keep their religion because they struck a deal with the Empe...
Also because big E wouldn’t have been able to take Mars that easily.
It wasn’t practical.
worldly gull
Tech priests got to keep their religion because they struck a deal with the Empe...
DAYUM so the whole imperium is like a cult made up to keep hierarchies then?
crisp heath
Yeah pretty much
signal bramble
DAYUM so the whole imperium is like a cult made up to keep hierarchies then?
That’s pretty accurate yes.
worldly gull
SIGN ME UP
Do humans get made in science labs cause slanish is heresy, so like is making babies bad?
signal bramble
The power of ork belief makes things like physics a little more loose and such. The tech priests practicing their rituals is because they’re losing the knowledge needed to maintain the actual tech.
signal bramble
Do humans get made in science labs cause slanish is heresy, so like is making ba...
No.
crisp heath
Oh yeah and Space Wolves are Norse pagans in SPESS, Salamanders also have their own weird little personal religion, Carcharodons are Maori for some reason...
signal bramble
On some planets yeah. But not all of them.
Slaanesh isn’t about experiencing any sort of casual pleasure, it’s about becoming obsessed with it and going far beyond to the point of excess.
worldly gull
Cause they don't have boobie armour so idk how they're getting sexy in these nasty hive cities, not the mood, ya know. I guess thinking about the emprah is THE MOOD.
signal bramble
Cause they don't have boobie armour so idk how they're getting sexy in these nas...
There are political and romantic relationships, brothels, people that hook up, people that fall in love, planets with breeding programs where feelings don’t enter in to the equation, etc.
worldly gull
Slaanesh isn’t about experiencing any sort of casual pleasure, it’s about becomi...
Are brothels not heresy?
signal bramble
Cause they don't have boobie armour so idk how they're getting sexy in these nas...
signal bramble
Are brothels not heresy?
No.
The priests and sisters of battle are allowed to have sex if they want as well.
worldly gull
Ok so now is the emporer a god or a dead dude on the golden throne? Are pyshkers the golden child cause they feed the throne energy to keep the magic going? Is it the emporer or is it the psykers keeping it going? Whats the truth? Why doesn't any give a straight answer?
sisters of battle arn't nuns?
They look and act like it
signal bramble
Ok so now is the emporer a god or a dead dude on the golden throne? Are pyshker...
I already answered your question. We don’t know.
signal bramble
sisters of battle arn't nuns?
They are. But there is no vow of chastity.
worldly gull
Have they check on him or is he just bones? Some old meme video showed him as bones, he looks dead
signal bramble
I’m sure some orders do but not all of them.
signal bramble
Have they check on him or is he just bones? Some old meme video showed him as bo...
He’s a tiny frail shell locked in the throne.
worldly gull
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xMMcKUi8NsI/VQDEXm-sToI/AAAAAAAAHGw/iJCU4vBSSUw/s1600/Warhammer_God_Emperor.jpg He look pretty dead, maybe the pysker juice is just making it look like he's alive iono
seems sus
signal bramble
His soul is very much alive.
But his physical body is dying yes.
The golden throne was keeping him alive but the systems are failing.
worldly gull
How do souls work in this universe? Whats the lore on that?
signal bramble
How do souls work in this universe? Whats the lore on that?
I’m a be real with you. Souls work however a particular author wants them to in the stories.
It’s never consistent.
worldly gull
I have a theory that the orks know that the humans think he's a god, and so because they know that, then its true in the universe cause of their cute lil powers, so then he's a god because of the orks. BOOM solved!
How many authors are there?
signal bramble
I have a theory that the orks know that the humans think he's a god, and so beca...
That’s an old meme.
signal bramble
How many authors are there?
Dozens?
worldly gull
ah man i thought i was OG on that! I just thought of it in jan lmao
Orks are cute babies, they should make orktide!
signal bramble
The Orks believe in Gork and Mork and they know the humans worship big E but they don’t worship him.
worldly gull
But they know he's a god to the humans so then he becomes a god
signal bramble
Also what exactly constitutes a “god” is also inconsistent in the setting.
The chaos gods are in fact, supremely powerful warp entities.
Big E was mortal enough in that his physical body could be slain and injured. But his soul which is in the warp fighting the chaos gods and fueled by belief? My personal theory is that when his body dies, some kind of massive warp entity will come out.
The forces of chaos refer to him as the Anathema. The bane to their very existence so… his power is significant.
worldly gull
WOAH WOAH how tf is he two timing like that? Is the warp a dimension or realm? Or is it a location? If his soul is not in his body but fighting in the warp, then he dude on the throne, what is that?
crisp heath
Ork powers don't really work like that
signal bramble
WOAH WOAH how tf is he two timing like that? Is the warp a dimension or realm? O...
He split his soul in to multiple parts.
crisp heath
If you got an Ork surrounded by 10,000 of his best friends, and you gave him a broken gun, he might be able to fire a couple shots before he notices
worldly gull
ah, so JK rowling stole that from 40k, i see.
signal bramble
It’s hard to describe the warp because things like physics and linear time don’t function there.
worldly gull
orks did nothing wrong
signal bramble
They do lots of things wrong.
They are a race of sadists that will happily murder and enslave everything and everyone.
worldly gull
They do lots of things wrong.
aaayyye watch yo self
signal bramble
There are no good guys in this setting.
worldly gull
they just wittle mushroom babies, they dont know any better
crisp heath
Orks did nothing wrong
worldly gull
party in the usa was a song made for them
signal bramble
The imperium from day one was about dominating the entire galaxy and anything that stood in their way or resisted would be wiped out.
crisp heath
Necrons and Tyranids are also innocent
signal bramble
Lewl
crisp heath
Tyranids just want a snack, and Necrons were here first and are just clearing out the galactic trash from their rental properties
worldly gull
oh yea, Necrons are cool. Did bionycles steal from that or vice versa?
signal bramble
Tyranids just want a snack, and Necrons were here first and are just clearing ou...
Recent books have characterized the hive mind as having emotions. Specifically hatred. :/
signal bramble
oh yea, Necrons are cool. Did bionycles steal from that or vice versa?
They were originally Chaos cyborgs and were changed to an ancient Egypt inspired faction.
crisp heath
The only emotion that matters
worldly gull
stawrberry is on a roll lmao
signal bramble
The only emotion that matters
It hates the blood angels for defeating it, views the gene stealer cults as abominations, and a few other things.
signal bramble
The Aeldari?
worldly gull
aeldari are hotties lets goooo
crisp heath
It hates the blood angels for defeating it, views the gene stealer cults as abom...
Yeah I've read DoB. Genestealers also are abominations
God I hate genestealers so much
worldly gull
Why. dont they make more content with the hot races, why is 40k all about the ugs?
genestealers? 😮
crisp heath
The Tyranids are the hot species
signal bramble
Why. dont they make more content with the hot races, why is 40k all about the ug...
Human faction makes the most money.
Sales wise.
So they focus on that because it’s what the majority of fans want.
signal bramble
genestealers? 😮
The tyranids have a bio form which infects people and turns them in to breeders under its control that it uses to conquer a planet and overthrow the government. It then sends out a psychic beacon to the hive fleet to eat the planet.
That is the very short explanation.
Also once the nids attack the planet they also eat the genestealer cultists.
Everything is just biomass and the hybrid humans were just misguided slaves.
worldly gull
The tyranids have a bio form which infects people and turns them in to breeders ...
So does it screw its way into the government and overthrows it that way? breeding? like does it screw everything it sees?
crisp heath
Pretty much
worldly gull
Also once the nids attack the planet they also eat the genestealer cultists.
Oh good, they don't waste, they're good guys 😄
signal bramble
So does it screw its way into the government and overthrows it that way? breedin...
It’s two fold. It infects them, that brings the person under their control and ensures every child will be an abomination.
worldly gull
Is it easy to tell if someone is a breeder or does it go unoticed easily?
signal bramble
The child is a horrible abomination so it has to be kept hidden but some can pass for human.
It changes for each generation and I honestly don’t know the specifics off the top of my head.
The infection is easily detected with a dna scan and leaves a very specific type of wound where the stealer infected them.
But the wound can be hard to see.
Can’t hide from a scan though.
Also once a person is infected there is no cure besides death.
worldly gull
so like the last of us!
is this canon? https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/55ef0e29e4b099e22cdc9eea/1484667050688-HJANAJTMGLS2AAA8DA87/stainglass4.jpg?format=1500w
signal bramble
The last of United States. Yeah like that.
signal bramble
is this canon? https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/55ef0e29e4b099e22cd...
No. It’s a costume someone made. But it’s very much believable to the 40k aesthetic.
The SoB have a tank that has an organ and stained glass windows.
worldly gull
ah man, i'd pay hella for this in game LMAO need more female representing armour IMO
ya'll cool AF, thanks for helping me out! ❤️
signal bramble
ah man, i'd pay hella for this in game LMAO need more female representing armour...
Human faction armor tends to be more unisex in design.
Not counting specific special characters that is.
I usually love elves in any setting but the 40k ones don’t do anything for me. You either get the sadistic torturers, the ascetics, or the clowns.
queen laurel
I usually love elves in any setting but the 40k ones don’t do anything for me. Y...
I mean you can also have the primitive ones but they don't really do anything else but just ride dinosaurs
thick cedar
why do eldar even need guns
signal bramble
I mean you can also have the primitive ones but they don't really do anything el...
True but I was thinking tabletop representation.
queen laurel
True but I was thinking tabletop representation.
Oh yeah, they do not exist in table top
celest dome
why do eldar even need guns
Cause guns are easy to train for and safer to use
orchid lark
I mean you can also have the primitive ones but they don't really do anything el...
The primitive ones still have the same tech as the craftworld eldar
They just farm more
coarse pumice
they raise dinosaurs to export to the Craftworlds so Eldrad can have his steak dinner
thick cedar
Hives were build during the golden age right?
celest dome
some yes, other are even older
uneven temple
some were built a long time ago, some a few thousand years ago, some are being built now
orchid lark
Ecumenopolises (the term for a hive world) are made over time like everyone said
Necromunda started out as an industrial scarp world
But people going there and what not
And cities kept being built
Theres a world in 40k that has walking hive cities
Moving hive cities
Think the mobile fortresses that the iron hands have but bigger
crisp heath
Hm...how stable are our Psykers here are compared to most other Psykers?
orchid lark
What do you mean?
celest dome
To TT PSyker, they are quite much weaker, compared to rpg Psyker, they are about the same level
I'd say on the assignment scale, about at Iota to Eta
coarse pumice
what kind of TT psyker?
like compared with a space marine librarian or eldar warlock?
thick cedar
So is the shit we pull off in game the norm in lore?
celest dome
Well in the lore we usually see even stronger Psykers
vale shuttle
||not relevant to this conversation but a """CENTRIST""" in the 40k community decided to hit me with "if a nazi created a cure for cancer but never did any nazi things they were just a nazi would that make them a bad person?" after i said that having nazi opinions makes you a bad person like oh my fucking god way to miss the point moron||
||and they said i was not tolerant towards others' opinions. that too.||
desert dust
||not relevant to this conversation but a """CENTRIST""" in the 40k community de...
||no joke it's not like most nazis were not even bad people it was mainly higher ups that pushed in certain directions and massive social pressures of the state. They were just people in a "society"||
||if your a willing neo nazi now you really do stand for hate and believe in some awful things||
vale shuttle
||no joke it's not like most nazis were not even bad people it was mainly higher...
||sure, yeah, i understand the social pressures of the civilians living in nazi germany. umberto eco, who wrote one of the most in-depth essays on fascism from an outside persepctive was literally in the italian hitler youth (i cant remember what it was called)||
||but this guy's point wasn't that, his point was that you need to be accepting of people's "opinions" and that if people had nazi opinoins but never acted on them they're cool. which is stupid, because that's valuining the opinons of nazis over the safety and comfort of everyone the nazis want to exterminate||
crimson kayak
||not relevant to this conversation but a """CENTRIST""" in the 40k community de...
||did... Did you rebout with "if nazi didn't do nazi things they weren't nazis to begin with? It's like saying "Yeah but what if that serial killer didn't kill 40 people and resolved world hunger?" like thanks I can too live with hypotheticals lol||
vale shuttle
||did... Did you rebout with "if nazi didn't do nazi things they weren't nazis t...
||no i responded with an extremely ghoulish hypothetical to drive the point home that hypotheticals like that are dumb.||
crimson kayak
Good
vale shuttle
i'm not stupid enough to think he made a good point. you can live in hypotheticals all you want, but hypotheticals aren't real and what matters is how we treat real people who really exist
not hypothetical people who dont exist
desert dust
Let's reword this if your whole society is corrupt in some massive way but your just some dude who lives in it trying to survive and build a good life are you a bad person for simply living in that system.
vale shuttle
that wasn't the question, that wasn't the argument.
orchid lark
So is the shit we pull off in game the norm in lore?
The psykers we play are “sanctioned” psykers. Folks that can use/channel their abilities in what we can consider usable
Librarians and Eldar Warlocks are different levels for sure
Warlocks using runes to better control themselves
Librarians have their enhanced physiology and force hoods to better control and wield their powers
Normal psykers get force hoods too
Can a normal human psyker be stronger than a warlock or librarian? Yes.
Eisenhorn on the other hand is an example of a weak psyker. He could read minds and speak telepathically but he couldnt pull or push things
orchid lark
||no i responded with an extremely ghoulish hypothetical to drive the point home...
Did you block him?
You should
Majority usable psykers are just humanity’s telephone lines tho
thick cedar
I mean like is it the norm for 4man squads to pull of what we do?
orchid lark
Yeah
Actual Imperial Guard Regiments do field squads of psykers
Some places, the love and kiss of a leman russ cant reach
But a gaggle of hardassed sanctioned psykers
Do about the same
I dont know if its still true (probably retconned) but the Mordians love having sanctioned psykers
Fielding alongside their leman russes and grenade launcher wielding troops
Space Marine Librarians arent typically a battlefield role, they are a support communications role
green loom
Primaris psykers are the most based
orchid lark
Telephones
orchid lark
Primaris psykers are the most based
Not to be confused with primaris marines psykers
Not sure why Games Workshop couldnt find a better word but here we are
desert dust
What?
coarse pumice
Hopefully they’ll just roll the marines together and realise it was all just a dream
desert dust
You got human psykers and librarians?
Now it's human psykers with upgrades and librarians with upgrades?
crimson kayak
Nope
orchid lark
Primaris Psykers came first
then primaris marines
its just, I dont like having to use the same words
because now, we associate Primaris with the space marines, not the primaris psykers
crimson kayak
Psykers are usually divided in Wirdwane (groups of Psykers that can't channel powers alone) and Primaris (Psykers that can use powers alone)
Then you have Marine Librarians, wich Primaris upgrades don't upgrade their psykic power
orchid lark
Marine Librarians are seperated in more ranks, that thankfully arent used in tabletop games.
Lexicanum, Codicier, Epistolary, and Master Librarian
crimson kayak
Psykers are usually divided in Wirdwane (groups of Psykers that can't channel po...
Btw this classification is only for sanctioned psykers
orchid lark
thats following codex formations of course
orchid lark
Lexicanums are the rookies, they got on psychic hoods. typically learning their powers, writing history, and being used as the telephones for the psykers in the field below
orchid lark
Primaris tend to be decently powerful and sane right
not neccessarily.
Commissars are always nearby
just in case
crimson kayak
Primaris tend to be decently powerful and sane right
Count that our psykers are technically primaris
Now count how many of them are sane lol
celest dome
Count that our psykers are technically primaris
While they aren't Wyrdwane I'm not sure if they would be consider ourself to be Primaris
As they are supposedly Delta + Psyker iirc
crimson kayak
While they aren't Wyrdwane I'm not sure if they would be consider ourself to be ...
Technically we are Mystics as we are under Inquisitorial service and seemingly constantly harassed by daemonic visions in our minds, we just can't sense daemons before they appear but I count that as gameplay balance+lack of most daemons.
anyhow primaris are just Psykers that can do Psyker things alone, it's just that they received the space marine treatment of losing the fact they are an incredible rarity lore wise
As Psykers battle teams (Wyrds) are close to never represented
(also remember that power wise all primaris and our character are equipped with neural inhibitors who also decrease their psykic power level)
celest dome
Think Primaries have a special thing though, like a communion with the Emperor or something
orchid lark
A lot of psykers go have a meeting with the Emperor
Most get blinded
Those who dont and seem to be stronger than before
Become guard psykers
If found young maybe sent to a schola to be picked up by an inquisitor
But a lot end up as astropaths
The unlucky ones?
Die
I think the darktide psykers make reference to being combat psykers or astropaths that did some crime (they didnt commit)
Either or
green loom
The French one worked with enforcers
crimson kayak
Think Primaries have a special thing though, like a communion with the Emperor o...
Primaris are Wyrds that complete training, it's just that 80% of battle Psykers take a long ass time or for them is directly impossible to finish it due too lacking enough talent/basically skill issue
gloomy citrus
A lot of psykers go have a meeting with the Emperor
Thousand psykers a day.
crimson kayak
A lot of psykers go have a meeting with the Emperor
That's only Astropaths btw
orchid lark
That's only Astropaths btw
i thought it was all of them (barring anyone from astartes worlds)
crimson kayak
i thought it was all of them (barring anyone from astartes worlds)
Nope, Astropaths do the Soul Binding so they can become warp-based satellite phones.
During that meeting they actually get a small fraction of the emperor's power
As normal Psykers can't send messages with the warp
Then I mean, there's the black ships but they bring Psykers for another kind of "meeting"
Btw, get some Golden Throne art from when it wasn't even a throne
vale shuttle
god i love how ugly and decrepit big E looks here
celest dome
That's only Astropaths btw
Don't they get blinded by the Astronomicon and not the Emperor ?
vale shuttle
no glorious golden god here, just a corpse on a throne
crimson kayak
Don't they get blinded by the Astronomicon and not the Emperor ?
Nope, they get blinded due to communing with the most powerful existing psyker
Some also lose other senses
But they get a good bunch of Psyker abilities, more resistance to possession/corruption and a "near sense" that substitutes the missing ones
Also fun fact Malcador is technically the first Astropath as he was the first to do the Soul Bind, but he's built different and didn't lose anything in the process
green loom
Prolly cus he was also a powerful psyker mayhaps?
coarse pumice
the old emperor gives a different feel, and RT has a kind of classic empire in decline feel to it
signal bramble
Nope, they get blinded due to communing with the most powerful existing psyker
Navigators can see the emperor in the warp.
But they can’t look directly at him.
near wasp
Looking at the emperor makes you depressed from all the pain hes emmitting. I bet if a dark eldar was in the same room as the golden throne, the eldar would become immortal from the sheer suffering
crimson kayak
Looking at the emperor makes you depressed from all the pain hes emmitting. I be...
...there's been multiple dark eldar in the same room as the throne
hell, they are making their own golden throne
summer rover
"holy shit, we need this for the den. get down to ikea and get this built then find me the biggest psychic monkey they have!"
near wasp
...there's been multiple dark eldar in the same room as the throne
Oh, i knew 1 eldar tried to break in to the throne room but i didnt know any had ever been in it
crimson kayak
Oh, i knew 1 eldar tried to break in to the throne room but i didnt know any had...
an haemonculi was brought inside by a secret group of high lords and other important imperial figures
to see what the fuck is wrong with the throne
near wasp
Yeah vaults of terra but it never made it there
storm jungle
That haemonculus didnt made it inside the throne room
he just went on a pain-high and ran away to the dungeons
and made monsters there
crimson kayak
oh wait, then it was later when they go to commoragh was it?
near wasp
Just finished that book
storm jungle
oh wait, then it was later when they go to commoragh was it?
Nobody went inside the throne room
crimson kayak
uh
storm jungle
it was just a botched and dumb plan
crimson kayak
i do remember one
near wasp
crimson kayak
nope you guys where right, dark eldar only had dealings with the mechanicum to build the Black Throne
green loom
Some inquisitors walked up to force their way inside with some scions
The custards massacred most of them
storm jungle
^
The fandom overblows the plot but it was basically a failure and didnt go anywhere.
||Same as how all the conspirators were killed alongside Inquisitor Erasmus and his entire retinue who were investigating it all the way to commorragh lmao||
crimson kayak
||Same as how all the conspirators were killed alongside Inquisitor Erasmus and ...
yeah, i confused the mechanicus giving the schematics and components and mixed up with the haemoncolus encounter.
storm jungle
Yeah that book is very weird and rushed
the dark eldar throne plot literally comes out of nowhere, I doubt it will ever get brought up again
green loom
Maybe when they get a book(they won't)
crimson kayak
Yeah that book is very weird and rushed
yeah remember when the haemonculi listened to Bach and cried in that book lol
copper patrol
storm jungle
This is all in the plot
no memes here
Also im glad in 40k nothing happened between the 21st century and M30-40, no great crisis, no great inventions, no great historical figures, nothing.
Its all just fucking pre-history nonsense that the books reference 
green loom
Strange relic in a monastery only known as "The Malevolent Dragon"
storm jungle
That took me a second ngl
green loom
It's not as bad as Mortal Engines showing fucking Minions in a museum and calling them "American Deities"
storm jungle
WHAT THE FUCK
green loom
celest dome
I think in the books it's another thing but it's not that far off, I think it was beany babies or something
Was Mikey Mouse and Goofy
queen laurel
https://youtu.be/ouLwECLH6cY
Why in the name of cherry cream cake flavored cookie does that thing exist
And how did that get approved
crimson kayak
btw im fucking hating that the rogue trader alpha doesn't have voices
green loom
Far as I remember no
crimson kayak
if you liked their other products they seem to be on the right track of adapting the tabletop
copper patrol
aight
celest dome
And how did that get approved
The Minion creator is someone that like to have fun, so I don't see it being weird for him to agree to it.
And in the book it's also a thing (But with Disney Property)
crimson kayak
but i think it's gonna be a Kingmaker/Path of the Righteous situation where the second game is gonna blow the first away
copper patrol
put way way too many hours into wrath
queen laurel
The Minion creator is someone that like to have fun, so I don't see it being wei...
You know what, that's a good point
crimson kayak
anyhow yeah, having industrial background sounds while in the ship with no music reading dialogue is bad
celest dome
Would love to see a game set in Mortal Engine, like the Wasteland/older Fallout games
arctic talon
is it good otherwise tho?
It’s good if you like rogue trader(the tabletop)
crimson kayak
yeah as usual it's more of a direct adaptation of the game than a game set in rogue trader
worldly gull
are there any lore videos that dont have fugly art, and hot babes only and a womans voice over and not a monotone dude? Cause I need those ):
signal bramble
are there any lore videos that dont have fugly art, and hot babes only and a wom...
Not really. No.
You’re in the wrong setting for that.
plush mason
WHY
basically the earth's crust ripped itself apart and reformed and is still unstable so all the cities had to be made mobel
some fly. some are city ships but the greatest move on the land
plush mason
why not?
storm jungle
AAA
plush mason
its funny and perfect way to show how history progresses
odds are a lot of what we think of as religious objects where anything but when they where actually used
10k years from now an antenna dish will likely be misidentified as a ritual tray of some kind lol
plush mason
also the movie came out shortly after despicable me iirc so the minions where all the rage
storm jungle
I hate it.
storm jungle
Honestly all Cain books are good
just dont read them back to back thats when it gets frustrating
plush mason
Despicable Me 1 and 2 are pretty fun
no i meant mortal engines lol
green loom
Except me apparently
But ye I'm digging through Cain excerpts rn and I just want to read more Jurgen
plush mason
nobody remembers it even got made
i literally forgot it existed shortly after it was announced
crisp heath
Does rogue trader have a release date yet?
plush mason
ngl i find it funny that shortly after the heresy the imperium almost get wiped out by 2 non-descript xenos threats
well maybe less so with the pale wasting
versed ledge
no i meant mortal engines lol
What's Mortal Engines?
plush mason
What's Mortal Engines?
a movie where all the cities move and London is a giant hunter that consumes any smaller city it finds
i dont know much more beyond that
versed ledge
Sounds like a great premise for a series or game, but not so much for a movie
plush mason
yeah
signal bramble
a movie where all the cities move and London is a giant hunter that consumes any...
It’s based on a book I think.
plush mason
makes sense
summer rover
there's a LOT of different "nurgle zombie" plagues, so it's probably totally different aside from being plague zombies.
plush mason
k
summer rover
like, the poxwalkers are hilariously benign in darktide.
they don't even seem to be infectious, they're just full of maggots.
storm jungle
like, the poxwalkers are hilariously benign in darktide.
Gameplay =/= Lore
nobody wants to fight fodder enemies that chip away your health by just being near them
plush mason
tbf the poxwalkers do add corruption to you with every hit
summer rover
it's just so damn easy to not get hit by them.
plush mason
yeah and its not a lot of corruption
you have to be hit by a lot of them to even notice it
why did i watch these videos this late at night? im not getting to sleep because of this
also
i just now realized that Tzeench's titles are contradictory lol
desert dust
It's kinda funny how out classed we would be in real 40k
Like everyone would probably need some real powerful blessings from the emperor or a full hazmat combat suit to even survive in a lot of levels around all that corruption
plush mason
yeah its a classic horde shooter power fantasy on that front
we are 4 shmucks that kill over 1k people on average every single time we set foot in that hive
desert dust
And in real 40k we would be swarmed by poxwalkers that are stronger than regular humans and move with the power of the warp and if we survived any cut would probably kill us
storm jungle
It's kinda funny how out classed we would be in real 40k
Not necessarily
A lot of these people are pretty combat-experienced
the veterans literally mention going against Tau gunlines and also fighting orks.
Ogryns can meanwhile rip apart tanks
desert dust
Yeah it's the writing to be honest.
Poxwalkers can rip apart space marines in HH2 I think
storm jungle
HH2?
desert dust
The one horus gets stabbed by the knife fighting on a plauge moon
desert dust
No I mean thr Luna wolves end up fighting the nurgle forces that are super OP for some reason
desert dust
Probably since it's the most important part of the plan
jovial glacier
Good morning lore cretins, how do I explain warhammer lore to a friend who knows nothing about it
vale shuttle
does your friend have an interest in a specific part? maybe tell him about some fun aspect of that lore.
it's really difficult to start 40k lore cause you don't wanna sit there like "AT THE DAWN OF THE UNIVERSE THE C'TAN CAME INTO EXISTENCE FROM THE SUNS. NOW, THE OLD ONES WERE THE FIRST-" like it's just not interesting and is in fact a way to get people un-interested.
but if they like, for example, the necrons, maybe tell them about trazyn the infinite and his wacky museum. if they like chaos tell them about the 13th black crusade. if they like the imperium tell them about, idk, the emperor and the great crusade
but you dont need to go very in-depth, try and remain at a higher level of explanation - broad strokes and general vibes instead of specific details
jovial glacier
He knows about the big sword guys as he calls them and blood for the blood god
vale shuttle
wtf is big sword guys?
jovial glacier
Marines
vale shuttle
ahh
jovial glacier
He calls them the big sword guys
vale shuttle
do you know what kinda stuff he likes? is he into demons, or undead, or paladins and clerics, or sci-fi federation-y stuff?
since at a level of total novice, like that, it's really hard to give a solid recommendation without knowing things like that
jovial glacier
He likes big man with big sword
vale shuttle
alright, tell him about the custodes or the space marines
jovial glacier
He like the weapon stuff
vale shuttle
"big man with big sword" sounds like he'd enjoy loyalist marines, custodes, maybe knights? if you know an interesting story from one of them try and talk about it like that
jovial glacier
Yeah probably
plush mason
desert dust
Good morning lore cretins, how do I explain warhammer lore to a friend who knows...
Easy tell him think of any regular dark fantasy setting with magic and sword fighting and evil creatures.
Then add technology and scifi horrors into the mix and a giant overwhelming religion.
rose thorn
Hellos fellows
orchid lark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K84LBcyI5k
As explaining
Lore goes
Wes aint so bad
He reminds me of a middle school teacher hyping kids up
torpid narwhal
coarse pumice
Good morning lore cretins, how do I explain warhammer lore to a friend who knows...
from the into paragraph in the rulebook
the rulebooks (the ones that contain background) have always served to give this overview
then after that, the codex for any specific faction they are interested in
anything beyond those would be too specialised or weird
queen laurel
They come from the warp obviously
That explains this one that i found that has four arms and three mouths
brave anchor
Would Biles clone of Vulcan be able to resurrect like a perpetual?
celest dome
Maybe, we don't know if it's tied to the soul or the Physiology
green loom
I'm going to say no seeing as Vulkan has been reduced to basically nothing before
And the only way to really kill them is psychic bs
orchid lark
i think biles clones for primarchs are not 100%
considering how easy they die sometimes
crimson kayak
Bile's clones managed to get perfect copies of the Primarch's Body, consider them body doubles without any of the actual abilities
Basically he made space marines with primarch bodies and memories (because a primarchs memories are stored in their blood apparently)
orchid lark
I always like to think someday
Corax and Leman managed to spirit away with A ferrus clone
And bring it back to terra
And have the emperor like
crimson kayak
Man I hope if ferrus ever comes back he becomes an Helfather
orchid lark
Reverse exorcise
crimson kayak
Man I hope if ferrus ever comes back he becomes an Helfather
Just imagine a literal skynet terminator styled primarch coming at you, wich would also probably be extra depressed as he didn't want his legion to go full bionics and shit.
orchid lark
I dont think he could ever convince them anymore to be less augmented anymore
He could convince them to be more mindful and embrace humanity
Chances are thatd just make them feel more like shit and do something crazy like
“Dads mad at us, I know we all go out on an unending crusade protecting humanity.”
crimson kayak
Can't really go back after having people like Helfathers (black terminator armour that doesn't need an astartes to do astartes things) or people like iron father Kristos who's over 80% metal, doesn't have a face and says "fuck you" to any concept of human limitations in limb mobility
hallow saddle
Kristos was a dick
Feirros and Kardan Stronos are sound and believe in embracing one's humanity
Cause they've seen how iron hands end up otherwise!
"what if Iron Hands got therapy?"
coarse pumice
Craftworlds are entirely self sufficient space faring worlds with access to warpgates to teleport around the galaxy. The static territories they protect though are the maiden worlds, bountiful garden planets tended by their country-mouse brethren, the exodites.
The CWE defend them viciously, destroying any imperial or ork or whatnot threats that get close.
They might say "well they'll be staging worlds for rebooting the old Empire", but y'know the CWE's just stay on their craftworlds. So why?
'Cause they produce meat, big juicy pieces of gigantosaurus meat. That's the only thing Craftworlders get from the exodites. They don't need raw materials, they don't recruit the natives, they don't build vacation homes, they get meat. This is the only thing ever mentioned in canon fluff.
Eating steaks is the primary motivation for the CWE to fight. If they ran away and abandoned the exodites, they wouldn't have any steaks and would be eating cup noodles for the rest of eternity.
So remember, the next time an ork waaagh is manipulated to ravage the Imperium rather than get to an exodite ranch world, those 100 billion guardsmen died so Eldrad could have his steak dinner.
orchid lark
I can respect that
storm jungle
Craftworlds are entirely self sufficient space faring worlds with access to warp...
Craftworlds trade with corsairs.
crimson kayak
old Eldar empire: seeds a barren rock for thousands of years so that it can become a perfect settling world
Craftworld: Steak
storm jungle
Also I get that this is a meme post but
self sufficient
relies on others to get meat
coarse pumice
i guess it's difficult to grow gigantosaurus in a craftworld
need to ranch them riding eldar knights
storm jungle
Its a world-ship so I kinda doubt it.
coarse pumice
I can imagine some miscreant let the gigantosaurus into the city-section like godzilla
green loom
Mfkers can't spare a section to ranch some prime Miyazaki Grox
jagged monolith
Eat ze gigantosaurus
near wasp
Eldar probably think grox isnt fit for the table since is an animal farmed by the mon kiegh
crimson kayak
Btw let's all remember that this is a grox and that to be safely herded you must lobotomize them because otherwise they act like basically giant honey badgers that can kill shit
orchid lark
but they taste like beef
signal bramble
Since the Eldar have the webway, I wouldn’t be surprised if they had gates to some very well hidden and secluded resource worlds as well.
rose thorn
Btw let's all remember that this is a grox and that to be safely herded you must...
I had an idea for a mission where it’s like, a 500 point game and it’s just tug a war with a flock of these guys
It’s like
Idk it’s dumb
I only had the idea when I first got into warhammer
near wasp
You guys think grox jousting is a thing on some feudal world
near wasp
Lol
crimson kayak
I mean we do already have a rough rider regiment riding big lizards If I remember correctly
So it's definetly possible
storm jungle
tho its like old lore but still a thing
orchid lark
I wish Flesh Tearers used Dinosaurs too, seeing as Cretacia is just T-Rex land
crimson kayak
I wish Flesh Tearers used Dinosaurs too, seeing as Cretacia is just T-Rex land
Ah yes, the land of reptiles as big as scout titans, insects large as a man that can pierce power Armour and primitive humans that could easily beat catachans if they werent basically cavemen and they also Thrive on the planet
orchid lark
If Seth really did care about Baal and the incoming devastation, he shouldve somehow dropped those dinosaurs onto baal
that wouldve been freaking cool
"Dante, my brothers number few, but these dinosaurs should do just the trick."
rose thorn
You guys think grox jousting is a thing on some feudal world
“NAY DEAR SIR YOUR GROX IS AS FAT AS IT IS USEFUL”
“I SATH SLAYTIH YOU ON THE GROX JOUSTING FOR YOUR WORD AGAINST THE GROXITIAN EMPIRE”
near wasp
Lol
coarse pumice
'plundering the ships of humans, orks and even other eldar'
'orks'
the corsair captain/prince sees a green blip on the radar matrix "yarr me hearties, 'tis time to raid the ork ship'
what do they loot from ork ships, I wonder?
queen laurel
what do they loot from ork ships, I wonder?
The best bet i think they would have is the scrap area
Basically the place where they keep the shiny bitz
You know weapon parts, modules for vehicles, scrap
Basically materials that the orks would use to make something
coarse pumice
gubbinz?
queen laurel
gubbinz?
Yes, i bet the storage area would have a lot of materials that haven't been broken down yet
And hey Orks will collect valuable things but they might call the thing trash because it doesn't interest them
plush mason
Also Tau have Istant noodles for rations
they are weebs so ofc they do
ofc thats better than whatever slop the SM/IG eat lol
crimson kayak
ofc thats better than whatever slop the SM/IG eat lol
I mean, ig rations are so localized and varied that someone in a book mistook tanith camouflage as nutrient paste
astral whale
what do they loot from ork ships, I wonder?
Gold, oil, precious metals, looted Eldar technology.
desert dust
Corax and Leman managed to spirit away with A ferrus clone
I was thinking about that the other day when I found out that malcador said they could bring primarchs back even dead ones.
Imagine if they try to bring ferrus or sang back to life and they ||screw up and bring back Konrad since no one knows how it really works anymore so they just grab a primarch soul and shove it into a body.||
crisp heath
Test
green loom
Failed
summer rover
it's built for campaigns, but you can do random pickup games fine.
as long as you don't want to include the weirder stuff like hiring mercenaries from special campaign events, since those are usualy unbalanced
signal bramble
A campaign game
It is. You pick a gang and basically they gain exp/money between battles to get more models and war gear.
But it sounds difficult to organize.
summer rover
....yeah sure, it's like age of sigmar if it wasn't stupid.
rose thorn
…?
rose thorn
It is. You pick a gang and basically they gain exp/money between battles to get ...
That sounds pretty neat tbh
plush mason
so a primaris inceptor is just a flying terminator? why and what role do they normally fill in battle
summer rover
selling new minis
plush mason
lol
rose thorn
so a primaris inceptor is just a flying terminator? why and what role do they no...
I’m pretty sure they have that rule where you can place them on the edge of the board 9 inches away from what ever
I know salamders use the flamer variants a lot
Wait did I get them mixed up
I did lmao
Let me pull up their rules
But I know they aren’t bad
Yeah they have that reinforcement rule
versed ledge
I just realized the hive city mentality and design works wonders for city builder games
If one doesn't account for beauty and comfort....
versed ledge
And....now caused a workers strike by using imperial doctrine
uneven temple
send in the arbites
versed ledge
Did..got overrun
Which begs the question. Agriworld relies on exterior trade still for mechanical components, right? In exchange they export food and manpower
summer rover
more food than manpower. this said a lot of that trade isn't economic. the imperium likes to make sure things run regardless. hence IG regiments being a tithe to the imperium....
versed ledge
But they do get some form of raw material in exchange for feeding the imperium, right? Or something...or is the imperium just straight up oarasitic
If it's the latter, how the hell is the imperium still running
signal bramble
But they do get some form of raw material in exchange for feeding the imperium, ...
There is bartering being done constantly between planets.
Knight worlds harvest produce and ore and send them to forge worlds in exchange for new knight suits and ammo. To the greater imperium they’re providing their services.
An agriworld would trade part of its produce and raw materials to a forge world. The imperial tithe isn’t every last drop of resources, it’s a portion.
summer rover
also most likely the planatary governers are able to requisiton raw materials to ensure production continues. materials might not be of good quality, but that's another problem
desert dust
Which begs the question. Agriworld relies on exterior trade still for mechanical...
The agriworlds are mostly giant plant factories.
You got massive areas that just grow thr food with processing plants and then they ship off world.
They must fill there tithe at a minimum and extra means extra cash money or rewards of other fancy stuff.
They automatically without pay get stuff to run the world from off world and also get the protections of the human forces if they hit the panic button. (Aka slap the athropath really hard)
orchid lark
Agriworlds are also shittier than most worlds.
not a lot of people because theres machines to help you
city sized tractors i guess
air is filled with chemicals
orchid lark
low tech industrial worlds too
just work till you die
but at least its nice out
and maybe have a yearly trip somewhere on the planet that isnt so shit
and if youre lucky a little pilgrimage action
vale shuttle
how big are the fleets of the various non-IG arms of the imperium? custodes, astartes, sororitas?
crimson kayak
so a primaris inceptor is just a flying terminator? why and what role do they no...
Inceptors are ranged assault marines in heavy armour, dropped from low orbit directly behind enemy lines/in the thick of battle (being mistaken as stray warheads and falling space debris during the fall)
Also their boots/jetpack make them able to jump and fly around more seamlessly despite the fuckton of plus armour
green loom
how big are the fleets of the various non-IG arms of the imperium? custodes, ast...
IG don't have fleets, custodes and Astartes have small, mobile fleets
Sororitas idk
crimson kayak
Sororitas have their own landers/orbital vehicles but are attached to the navy for larger transportation
green loom
Marines mostly use strike cruisers and battle barges i thinks
crimson kayak
Yep
crimson kayak
Then there's the custodes but they can just requisition whatever they fuck they want because they are above every law in the imperium
green loom
The Emperor's Spears use a salvaged navy ship iirc
orchid lark
Space Marines and probably Custodes have “faster” and more dangerously more rounded ships
I dont know how fast they can travel in the warp
But in realspace they are slightly faster
Glorianas are another thing entirely
Monsters in their own classifications
And specially designed to be speccd up for the Primarchs Taste
40k does do the thing where the ships upon exiting the warp have to be in the Mandeville points
Which is the closest point that is on the edge of a star system
For safety
Where as star wars has ships exiting hyperspace between planetary orbits
Mass effects got those cool Massive relays tho
crimson kayak
Tbf they are also all vastly different methods of space travel
Even more considering the warp is not always precise both regarding time and space
So it makes sense that the more dangerous methods has the biggest safety locks
Meanwhile mass effect relays are basically galactic scale baseball pitching machines
orchid lark
Meanwhile mass effect relays are basically galactic scale baseball pitching mach...
The only goodish thing that ME had was the world building
Loved it
Like how the guns worked
pine wedge
Do you think anyone in the Imperium wonders why their calendar began 41 millenia ago?
I doubt they remember
orchid lark
I think they just chalk it up to Ancient Terra history
not a lot of people now know why the gregorian calendars are called that now
let alone the other calendar systems that are used now anyway
green loom
That's assuming they're using the same calendar as everyone else
orchid lark
in 40k? yeah theyre still using the gregorian calendar
but with the great rift theyve modified it
storm jungle
Basically it boils down to
Common citizen stupid
Common citizen too preoccupied with everything else to really care.
green loom
Like it's already an issue where time is inconsistent between planets
orchid lark
like in Mass Effect, they have the Terran Standard
or in Star Wars with Galactic Standard
in Mass Effect its Citadel/Galactic Standard
100 minutes and 100 days or something
vale shuttle
planets in 40k are significantly more isolated so it wouldn't surprise me if every sector spoke a different language or w/ever
storm jungle
They more or less do
orchid lark
yeah
storm jungle
nobody in 40k also speaks english
but like
i just headcannon that Low Gothic is english
because no 40k game bothers to make it that way
orchid lark
thats why they have Ordo Dialogus, and the not bene gesserit
vale shuttle
high gothic is just the administrative language
storm jungle
Yeee
green loom
People think High Gothic is Latin and Gothic just english
orchid lark
I mean Arabic to some degree exists
storm jungle
People think High Gothic is Latin and Gothic just english
Thats the way to go about it tbh
orchid lark
as well as Russian
vale shuttle
and low gothic is just Common It's Common Because We Don't Want To Deal With Everyone Not Being Able To Talk To Each Other in Our Fantasy Setting™️
green loom
But High Gothic is a mish mash of Lingua Franca and Gothic is inconsistent as fuck
storm jungle
and low gothic is just Common It's Common Because We Don't Want To Deal With Eve...
Also this
like
if the creators dont bother why should you
vale shuttle
i dont
storm jungle
Exactly.
vale shuttle
my custom factions all speak gothic or low gothic as required
green loom
They just have to be suitably accented to match their ethnic stereotype
vale shuttle
im not gonna sit there being like "mmmyesss this section of the planet speaks flimflam and this one speaks bongletanian"
orchid lark
They just have to be suitably accented to match their ethnic stereotype
in some way, this is super inclusive in a weird weird way
green loom
Or horribly racist depending on what we're talking about
storm jungle
im not gonna sit there being like "mmmyesss this section of the planet speaks fl...
Yeah its just not worth it lmao
vale shuttle
it works as long as the- yeah
near wasp
Everybody is invited to die for the god emperor
orchid lark
i mean 40k hasnt reached like Star Wars prequels level of racist stereotypes
vale shuttle
if you roll up to my table and when we're having fun voicing our characters if you suddenly do an extremely racist stereotype i'll be frowning
vale shuttle
40k's only issue is mostly just sexism/fascism
DONT GET ME STARTED
storm jungle
near wasp
Oml
vale shuttle
right now my current army are ancient greek themed so i need to like
boot up assassin's creed odyssey and try to copy the charactesr from that lmao
orchid lark
right now my current army are ancient greek themed so i need to like
Space Gyros
storm jungle
Its the same as people who go "Imperials wouldnt care whats in your pants or your race"
They absolutely would.
People that say that really do not get how far human bigotry can go no matter the timeframe
green loom
I prefer doner
orchid lark
I prefer doner
like the Emperor
storm jungle
Emperodöner
vale shuttle
Its the same as people who go "Imperials wouldnt care whats in your pants or you...
yeah that argument is really stupid because fascism absolutely loves attacking its own people as much as the outsiders
storm jungle
yeah that argument is really stupid because fascism absolutely loves attacking i...
Yeah its not just mentioned in lore because nobody wants to read about that shit which is absolutely fair as far as escapism goes
vale shuttle
but like nobody wants to hear that argument because "The Emperor was almost certainly extremely sexist." makes them uncomfortbale
vale shuttle
we're just so similar
storm jungle
near wasp
storm jungle
But yeah 40k's only glaring issue was the male dominated roles/characters in lore which has mostly thankfully been really subverted in the last few years
orchid lark
nearly every admiral for space marine fleets are women
storm jungle
Also everyone just being white
vale shuttle
||not to start this conversation again but the only good argument for "no female space marines" is that the emperor was super duper sexist and hated women and made it that way because he hates women, but no-one ever wants to make that argument||
brisk beacon
would be pretty cool if couple primarch were female honestly
vale shuttle
But yeah 40k's only glaring issue was the male dominated roles/characters in lor...
as long as space marines are the main faction and theyh're gender locked we'll have this problem
storm jungle
Pretty much but we'll see
storm jungle
GW has been pretty open to change
mostly because more money
so it makes sense for them to move in different inclusive locations
orchid lark
the closest we'll ever get to female space marines is Stormcast
vale shuttle
space marines are both the priamry antagonist and primary protagonist...
brisk beacon
hope they wont get affected by woke culture tho and change just cuz
storm jungle
Stormcast are basically bugfixed marines yeah
they can be as big as a legion, they arent ethnicity locked, anyone can be one, etc
vale shuttle
the more i learn about AoS the more i want a 40k end times to propel 40k into like, warhammer 45k or warhammer 50k or something so we can shake off all the old baggage
storm jungle
Its prob gonna happen at some point
vale shuttle
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storm jungle
40k's biggest issue is its incredibly bloated
orchid lark
but Ill say it again, any discussion for Female Space Marines always seem like a gotcha moment for me, because it feels like anyone who starts that convo are just trying to get a rise from people
near wasp
As long as 40k makes money the end times wont happen
storm jungle
Yeah that too
Fantasy ended because it wasnt making money
and
as much as people bitch about it
it was their fault lmao
Literally nobody liked the current edition of fantasy
orchid lark
youre right and it should be echoed forever
storm jungle
but when its gone they act like it was the best thing ever
coarse pumice
GW made 8th edition hostile to players
orchid lark
fantasy stagnated so bad and the players did little to help
storm jungle
^
vale shuttle
but Ill say it again, any discussion for Female Space Marines always seem like a...
even though i dont want to get a rise out of people i'll still argue it because it's one of my weak points, but like...i get why it's banned on tonnes of forums and discords, the discussions always boil down into steaming garbage
coarse pumice
it's not stagnation, there were key things in 8th in particular
orchid lark
even though i dont want to get a rise out of people i'll still argue it because ...
its more of, the people who start those arguments are always the bigots, like they just want to start something, so im very cautious when i see that talking point
coarse pumice
unit sizes were encouraged in the rules to be increased 20-25%
orchid lark
thankfully no one here is bigotted to the extremes
coarse pumice
meaning you needed to buy more/re-arrange units
sometimes it encouraged massive blobs
like literally 100 skaven slaves
on top of adding massive monsters to become centrepieces (unbalancing the game)
vale shuttle
thankfully no one here is bigotted to the extremes
ya we're obviously not real 40k fans. sign up to my new blog www.fortheemperor.com.ru for hot takes about how 40k is becoming too woke or whatever
orchid lark
meaning you needed to buy more/re-arrange units
oh god im reminded when GW tried to have people try xenos races in horus heresy, that was literally the same thing
storm jungle
Yeah to re-phrase GW started the fall of Fantasy but the fans entirely hated it and wanted it gone, so they were pretty much as big of a cause as to why it got nuked.
Now they make this fake nostalgia around it
as if it was perfect
crimson kayak
oh god im reminded when GW tried to have people try xenos races in horus heresy,...
...wot
coarse pumice
and literally purposeful bad balance with the Daemon army severely undercosting it in points
orchid lark
yeah when the first two books of HH came out, years ago, they kinda noted that YOU COULD (but shouldnt) try to make xenos armies for HH
coarse pumice
"People say the daemon army is overpowered"
"It would be a shame if it weren't"
anyway, if I were to reboot, I wouldn't go to 50,000 or whatever
I would revert it to be more RT like
orchid lark
40k has the benefit of a time frame that could work (arguable), Fantasy felt like they had few weeks left or something
vale shuttle
god i'd love to doa 40k reboot but i feel like if i start rambling i'll go on for hours and no-one will be interested at me droning on and on
coarse pumice
RT was grittier but cheekier
orchid lark
i dont think 40k could be rebooted, its not sound enough
I love 40k, but there is no saving it lmao
crimson kayak
How do you know a random planet in Pacificus even uses the same calendar
there was a standardized calendar based on Terra, post great rift it's based around the time-dilation of the single system since the appearance of the cicatrix
vale shuttle
40k has baggage that'll follow it everywhere, you're right adam
orchid lark
its just gonna be like Spiderman where his life seems to get worst every new iteration
coarse pumice
going back: but prior to 8th edition Fantasy, in the area I played Fantasy was the more dominant game
vale shuttle
more like its fandom is too stubborn and set in its ways
coarse pumice
but 8th had players drop out, and one player noting some of the fiddly movements prior (in 7th and before) felt much better than 8ths 'massive overweight units roll dice against each other'
crimson kayak
i dont think 40k could be rebooted, its not sound enough
you definetly can't touch the 40k setting with a 10 foot pole without receiving massive backlash by the plastic addicts that will still buy official kits after complaining
coarse pumice
so from my perspective, 8th sabotaged Fantasy
vale shuttle
||im gonna behonest with you, female spcae marines would've been a thing years ago if 40k fans weren't STRANGELY attached to this piece of lore||
crimson kayak
||im gonna behonest with you, female spcae marines would've been a thing years a...
a lot of things would work if fans weren't more entrenched than the Iron Cage.
orchid lark
||im gonna behonest with you, female spcae marines would've been a thing years a...
im just scared of rampant misogyny if it actually went through
vale shuttle
i dont envy being the lore-manager for 40k. that guy has to deal with the 40k lore, uh, fans, and i think that as a group they're a little uuuhhhhhhh
unreasonable
vale shuttle
im just scared of rampant misogyny if it actually went through
wdym?
near wasp
Wouldnt all the augments get rid of most if not all the feminine traits with how much growth hormones and other shit gets put in a space marines body.
vale shuttle
like genuinely interested, this isn't me asking you "What do you mean?" like i think you have a garbage opinion and im trying to get you to admit to it
orchid lark
I just know, the second Female Space Marines even become a thing, its just gonna sprout some really really bad takes from some of the more questionable fans
crimson kayak
Wouldnt all the augments get rid of most if not all the feminine traits with how...
not necessarily
vale shuttle
i mean we already have those bad takes lmao
crimson kayak
and in droves too
vale shuttle
i've literally had people argue to me that women are too weak to be space marines
orchid lark
i know and I dont like seeing it
vale shuttle
they don't say that explicitly, but they make that argument essentially
crimson kayak
i've literally had people argue to me that women are too weak to be space marine...
well that's a new one
orchid lark
i've literally had people argue to me that women are too weak to be space marine...
Sisters of Silence arent even augmented and they're stronger what
vale shuttle
well that's a new one
you've probs seen it. the argument is "The Emperor wouldn't select the weaker sex to be the Space Marines because he wanted only the strongest to be part of his warriors."
which at its core is just "women are too weak to ever pass the trials to become space marines"
orchid lark
at some point the internet got so infested with just opinionated people who somehow felt emboldened to just say some rancid shit, and im just tired of seeing it
vale shuttle
at some point the internet got so infested with just opinionated people who some...
i don't want to get waaaay off topic but nerd communities have this extremely bad
crimson kayak
you've probs seen it. the argument is "The Emperor wouldn't select the weaker se...
lol never saw it, but it's one of the funniest ones when your remember close to all space marines are not even adults when they start the process
vale shuttle
lol never saw it, but it's one of the funniest ones when your remember close to ...
lucky you, i've seen it a few times. it's never nice to see.
orchid lark
I delete and curate my history on my social media sites often
the second I see shit like that
vale shuttle
i'm a stupid dumb idiot who for some reason feels the need to visit trash-garbage 40k community spaces where i always get a faceful of sexism
rose thorn
like literally 100 skaven slaves
ah yes, 90 points of skaven
orchid lark
I dont need Nerd Ben Shapiro to give me his hot take and assumptions
Blocked, and start my youtube curation from the beginning
vale shuttle
i'm a stupid dumb idiot who for some reason feels the need to visit trash-garbag...
also transphobia, and genocide apologia. i remember this past week someone in this very channel decided to do the whole "haha trans slaanesh" thing which was fun to see :|
rose thorn
also transphobia, and genocide apologia. i remember this past week someone in th...
yeah...
rose thorn
theres this person i see on reddit and twitter alot
who makes these lbgtq flag color schemes on space marines and shit
copper patrol
anthropomorphizing(yes this is the right term) any human traits on literally being of evil isn't typicaly a good way to win any browny point
vale shuttle
oh i know who you're talking about and i love that person!!!
orchid lark
good painter
rose thorn
its so funny seeing how stupid phobes sound in comments