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They just look like shit.
its great
yee its great
i hate that most of the guns use a muscle to launch it and not a natural combustion chamber like alot of irl bugs use
honestly one of my favorite descriptions was of a tyranid psykic power that turns peoples brains into bioforms that eat them from the inside out
but bugs are my hyper fixation
so its litearlly only me complaining
'alot' as in mostly variatns of stink bugs
Man. Chaos > Tyranids.
honestly every 40k faction is cool
yep and which one is the best ends up being personal preference.
i honestly prefer AOS lore more but thats because everything is sligthly less stupid
but the stupidity is why 40k is fun
unless you are GW then it is obviously marines
ah yes dont you wanna play the space marine game hours heresy?
space marines v space marines v space mairnes
rogue trader had something about it that was lost even in 2nd edition
DAmn i love rogue traders
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interestingly, most marines pictures were them being blasted
though they had some cool moments
maybe that's just an impression because them being blasted isn't so common these days I guess?
AoS lore is also less focused on one faction
yeaA
and also every faction can fight every other faction
For better or for worse
and it doenst feel weird
Tbh same applies to 40k
unliek half of the factions in 40k is locked off without some weird over explained bullshit
Ehh
Disagree
The guard and marines fighting each other could be as simple as
One pissed off the other
or one turned traitor
Yeah
imperium fights itself all the time, their orders are not organized
Admech try not to backstab everyone challenge(impossible)
Even tyranid fleets kill each other to prove who is strongest
No it doesn’t?
Whichever one comes out on top
Is the same size as both of them
And has both adaptations
less to prove which is strongest but instead exchange DNA, or absorb biomass from a destroyed fleet remenants
But why? Isnt it just a waste of energy
It isn’t
They aren’t losing much energy
Fighting each other
Especially since they don’t always have a place to go fast
the hive fleets are united but sometimes its good to reclaim lost biomass while testing your own stock
^
Ah yes the orc practice of inflight entertainment
hive fleet hydra is most well know for this
Dudes more machine than the average tech priest
I’m sorry 589.5 points
That’s the most cursed point cost I’ve ever seen
I wonder what I can spend that half point on.
Think of the possibilities.
autogun, some grenades, i think you can get a knife but he's already got one so-
"Human prisoners"?
When did the bug took prisoners
their deformed heads and blobby looks had a disturbing feel that 'cool bugs' we get now don't have
I think there needs to be some sort of oddness for the effect, and not look cool or disgusting for coolness or disgusting's sake
the face of the original hive tyrant seems more intimidating than its modern counterparts
they threw out the alien feel for being more marketable, which is weird for an army of alien monsters.
alien monsters from another galaxy
big weird reptile bugs
They look more alien than than other xenos in the galaxy
wAIT IS THE CHAOS WARRIORS FROM VERMINTIDE SUPPOSED TO BE NORSCA
OMG I JSUT REALIZED
LMAO
Why did you think they looked like VIKINGS
CHAOS WARRIORS LOOK LIKE VIKINGS
good old fantasy
slavest o darkness 
the dark armor look is for the "generic warrior" for artwork purposes
speaking of fantasy. what is up with the chaos dwarves' hats?
i can only assume its a status symbol and/or its the same thinking like with the bearskins the French/English royal guard wore into battle
Ah man I missed nid talk
I'm going to stockpile the old gants while brand new boxes are available just because they're so much cuter than the new ones
Its because they are HEAVILY Sumerian
After that the design just kinda stuck and GW went ham with it
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anyone know if there is any lore on who or what Azgorh was?
After learning about the chaos dwarves, i fell in love with them, if someone can give choo-choo Charles a run for his money it would be them
Doesn't seem to have much. Might be more present in the Old World though
I really wanna get some context on this. So I got an Ultramarine army (yeah I know crucify me later) and I did know that people really don’t like the Ultramarines but like… why? What did these blueberries do to earn such disgust?
Gary Sue symptom and over representation
Can you elaborate?
people are butt hurt from things that happened 10 years ago
a codex writer embellished them a tad bit too much, calling them the best of the best of the space marines and so on
so not anything really worth caring about
Yeah that would do it
it's honestly really silly how people still get their knickers in a twist about it
Ultras are cool and Guilliman is a great character in modern 40k 
yeah it's just ancient meme shit
ultramarines are fine. a tad overrepresented but they're the designated 40K Representative Faction™️ soooo
🤷
yeah they just happen to be the box art subfaction for the most represented faction which also seems to bother people
people would be complaining about Blood Angels in the same manner if they'd still be the box art faction for space marines
More like 20
well true, I still live in the 2010s
yyeaah
But yeah people parrot old memes as usual
TTS made it worse
Ironically they meme on Cato but he's one of their better characters 
it went into the book of grudges
I like the ultramarines
But ive always been super into logistics and stuff so thats understandable
if you want to win a duel, study combat. if you want to win a battle, study tactics. if you want to win a war, study logistics.
Yep troobs cant fight if they dont have gear food and water
Ench why no one wins wars in 40k
If you want to troll the fuck out of an enemy you study intelligence & sabotage.
Anyone know of any Roman-esque worlds that have space marine chapters outside the Ultrasmurfs and Fists.
Torn between Smurfs and something else.
3/4 of ultra's successors, then there's a bunch of greek/mediterranean civ. based chapters lookwise
you could always homebrew your own Banath!!!
make up your own not!Ultramarines
on a world of not!Rome
like the minotaurs (greek), emperor's spears (barbarian pop auxiliaries), probably sons of the phoenix could easily be converted into a byzantine look ecc...
iron snakes too now that i think about it
oh wait they are ultra successors
Mostly just want to justify adding a bunch of wolf pelts to vanguards (velites) bear to standard bearers and Lion to comms men. Plumes and pelts for officers etc. also a bunch of leather straps and rondels (the old Roman equivalent of a medal, I forgot what they were called.)
And maybe play with like, grape vines as base decorations.
Might just go smurfs.
You could just homebrew?
Yeah that's just Smurfs
Home brew is an option. Maybe when I’m done working my brain muscle writing more lore for the SO’s Heretical Sisters of Khorne.
Still need to design an icon for their order. Current working name is Order of the Bloody throne.
Order of the Bloodied Saint
Order of the Flensed Skull
Sisters Stabby
I don't know if Khorne prefers stabbing.
Khorne doesn't care
He does care if the blood is spilled by magic.
Current Leader is Living Saint Carmine.
Only I’ve got Morathi’s wings to kitbash onto a Zepyrim to make her. Using Khinerai wings for the Geminae and other Zephyrim.
Geminae Sisters Elisabeth and Bathory.
Figured out concepts for most units except for tracked vehicles. Just figuring out how to design the novitiates.
Arco flagellants and penitent engines are all Ecclesiarchy members and Ordo members that deny the saint’s truth.
Mortifiers are used by sisters who are not content just giving the blood of the heathens to Khorne but their own as well.
Warsuits will either be like their own dreadnoughts or overly mutated sisters.
I largely plan for being able run them as sisters though, but all their Faith based stuff can be handwaved to chaos boons easy enough.
I’m so sad kroot aren’t their own army, they are literally the perfect aesthetic for what I like
And then learning they were gonna be their own army but ran out of ideas
Is the saddest shit ever
haven't Heard of a gore mage?
Gore mage don't use magic to kill though, only to locate or possess people
Yes, but all i am saying is
If you use magic to kill sure khorne will hate you
dang thats a let down. ty tho
If you do it cowardly, but otherwise you could be fine
Yes, it's okay to use magic as long as you punch your enemies to kill them
Like in Skyrim when using clairvoyance and then bringing out a large hammer
You can make an army of them if you really want though.
Or just play killteam.
Yeah I was thinking killteam
I’m not very very into tau
But I’m not a big fan of the gundam atheistic
huge knight fan
doesn’t like gundum
hasn’t wtached gundum In years
I don’t like gundam either and I’m a knights main. :p
Oh you don't like anime Mecha look in general?
Okay Ballin
I had a friend whose huge in to Gundam though, was massively obsessed in fact before he sadly passed. I was tempted to create a mechanized Tau army and paint them zeon colors in his honor.
Idk something doesnt feelright for me with the gundum vibe
Yes me too, i prefer the Western philosophy in mechas
Pacific rim
Imperial knights
Stuff like that
The cowboy kroot :,(
Technically speaking, outside of the soulstorm cinematic do we have any official animation of battlesuit combat?
No, I mean in general this can be applied to a lot of table top stuff
But you want you can watch the exodite crap
That's what it was called
I think
This guy did them as Counts-as Tau
Bring on the chickens baby! this is everything i have completed so far for the kroot and boy oh boy do they look hungry...
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That's a weirdly shaped great knarloc
He goes through what all the conversions are.
when you forget kroot want to keep their tech to a minimum and proceed to strap two big fuck off guns to the knarloc
It's Tau tech, it's maybe the classic case of breaking from tradition, kind of like the blood axe for orks
I mean its Counts-as a Ta'unar
Thinking outside the box
even through now i want to do get a squiggot just to make it into a brastoise
A Blastoise shaped squiggoth?
Now that's
An image
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In the exodite animation we see some.
oh shit that's some bad animation
that stealth suit do be acting like a dreadnought lol
I forgot that ever released
A dreadnought is a lot more mobile than that
Exodite has krieg vs Tau at some point. I didn’t watch it because I think warhammer + is a ripoff but I am aware of it. XD
well, just looked at what bigger battlesuit animated combat looks in the exodite and apparently it's minecraft players with the fly command
also for some fucking reason they send xv8 battlesuits against titans when their armour is not made against heavy weapons
Bird people with guns and food
That's what i see
orks, but avian and intelligent
It’s like a space cowboy bandit vibe
western aliens
Also they eat people.
well they eat almost anything
And just about anything else.
that they determine would be usefu;
Though they did try eating necrons before. It ended badly.
they are basically nids but not "muh galaxy ending bug monsters"
They had their dude that carries their stuff eat beasts of burden to make him strong but too dumb to complain.
Their shapers will carefully pick what trait. Like having their tracker eat a dog for the bloodhound nose. Etc.
The kasrkin novel has some interesting kroot lore.
If you find a kroot tribe that ate a lot of orks they will be very very jacked
I also adore the beast tamer vibe
there's actually Green Kroots who regularly eat ork fungi
and they actually turn green and jacked
Fun fact krootox come from when a kroot eats too much and they become too primal
I understand why gw didn’t go full ham and make a full army
Because it would mostly be infantry and be very mute colors
And kinda blob together
But like
Damn :(
If they did make an army the variety would be insane
ooh the bottom left one is cool
Kroot assault squad with wings for mobility and striking
It would be alot of animalistic units
kroot psykers are a thing too
I swear psyker meat tastes like tv static
like how sparkling water tastes
basically they would get mutations instead of most equipment
Yes
Considering that they have a lot of adaptation capabilities
Weird that the tau leader guys aren’t pykers
They could field a lot of tactics
btw i would think a kroot full army more akin to 40k lizardmen
Definitely
Out of all the factions they definitely the most lizard like
I mean the tau havelike
tiny baby souls
in the warp
so they can't have psykers afaik
for the big colored recognizable bits they would just have to mix more native-american looks into the western look so it would be feasible
Yesss
I’ve been trying to motivate my self to do warhammer shit and I need to finish a project
So I wanna start a new project and detach my self form everything else until I finish it lol
Do it in smaller steps. Do a basecoat or two one day, then shade it the next day, etc.
Or if it's an infantry unit try doing one model or part of a model per day.
maybe jsut a killteam or warcry or even just 250 points
aka like
a battleline adn an hq lol
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Went to the Warhammer store this past couple weeks in Tokyo. Was not disappointed.
I take that back. I was disappointed. Not ONE space wolf mini on display.
games workshop trying to keep them from adopting the best chapter like EU and US fanbases have.
Agreed
you heard me.
You heard him!
What does the average citizen know about the emperor
Same as we know about god
aka either
Made up shit
Hes a great figure
Anything the locals perceive and worship him as
the Imperial Creed is as flexible as possible to make sure every human under the Imperium worships him
ah theres the resident wolf poster, welcome back 
I did and unfortunately I must inform you of some grave news. Take a seat

It is with a grim heart that I must inform you, that the statement is objectively wrong.
I am sorry that no one has told you this sooner, it is regrettable
what chapter could you possibly think is better than the space wolves?
It depends
depends on what, how fast i'm going to mock your awful taste?
Depends on what needs to be done
But overall the UMs are the best chapter by a margin none can match
the nerds whose main trait is "there's a fuckton of us because we have a billion successor chapters that are exactly the same"? i'm sure if you roll the dice enough you'll end up with more total wins just by brute forcing it.
isn't their defining growth trait male pattern baldness?
They are the premier chapter who all others are compared against for a reason.
The Space Wolves hardly stack up being.....a melee chapter as their only trait?
Got to many of those who do it better
they also drink and party, which is way cooler. and therefore best.
So....they get drunk and party instead of doing their job?
And that makes them better?
also i'm pretty sure all the others are compared to them because their stupid book is used for comparison.
they get drunk and party while doing their job! rock stars, baby!
We have the guard for that
Next
I'll write that down, not the best chapter. Good chat
To be fair there's a good bunch of cool UM successors
Space Wolf fans don't know that, they can't read
they must act nothing like ultramarines, i bet i mistake 'em for dark angels
Like, pre primaris there was like, 3 wolf "successors" and either got the Inquisitorial blamming or outright fell to chaos
Literally applies only to Howling Grypphons and Knights Errant lol
The SWs is an under performing lineage with a gene-seed to match
Also, you'd be hard pressed to find many successors being a 1 for 1 copy of their progenitor
The DA are going to be a lot different now, it's especially noticeable in the new arks book.
And only because of knight looks btw
with GW's current writers, that's a scary though
Indeed espcially with || The Lion returning and bringing non corrupted Fallen (Risen) back into the fold||
I love the irony of this
Yep, ||non-chaos corrupted Fallen are now welcomed back in to the fold. They are redeemed.||
The arks book ||doesn't show their reaction to being reunited with their primarch,|| that will probably be in the new Lion book.
Yeah, good chance
There are still Chaos corrupted Fallen to hunt, but hopefully now that isn't their sole focus.
I would presume the book will also show Johnson and Guilliman catching up
It is pretty funny to imagine it, Azrael says, "my lord these are Fallen!"
Lion: "I said they're cool, now hug it out. We've got monsters to hunt."
Tbf the Loyal fallen probably did a better job than the dark angels at defending the imperium anyway
We don't know what they were doing, if they're on the run, if they're with Luther, etc.
That Lion primarch book better have a lot of lore. >_>;
I swear imperium is good at having outside sources defending them
Probably gonna be scattered, with the Lion meeting them alone or with their warbands and redeeming them for a knight of the round table style roster
Hard to say how much good the Fallen have done.
But it's hard to say the DAs are a consistent boon for humanity whenever they're on the hunt, as anyone or thing in the way of them and their target is an acceptable casualty
i mean, they hunt evil, they're just....usually very picky about how much the help directly.
the problem should be solved soon
Spring break in Japan.
I shall return in full Space Wolf force soon battle brother.
i mean, we knew they made the webway. they don't exactly hide it.
Yeah the Eldar inherited the webway from the old ones and developed it based on their needs
I've heard that a lot but never any canon/true source, but to entertain it, in the same way when you learn to make clay pots, you're inheriting how to make the pot, but you still made the pot
Apparently the DE 5th ed codex and the Eldar 4th ed codex make reference to this
I haven't read the newer ones so I have no clue if this has been retconned
the 4th Ed codex states it how I said it
they made it from techniques learnt from the old ones, but they still made it
Whoever thoughts of calling them "The Risen" should probably be shot
Well they stopped falling
At least it isn't "The Forgiven" 
When the Kratos meme finally ends after 10k years
let's continue here @orchid lark 
also all primarch homeworlds are heavily fortified to some extent
in devastation of baal, Baal has like
millions on millions of people making pilgrimage to Sanguinius birth world
that said the Space Wolves/ Ragnar Black Mane books never make notice of it. So maybe no one wants to go make a pilgrimage to Fenris, maybe Leman Russ is not popular on the who should we worship ladder
it can be assumed that Prometheus and Nocturne, Nocturne already being fortified to hell and back, are probably places with some pilgrims
We know from some codex space marines, people go visit Roboute Guillimann when he was still frozen in stasis too
but they dont recruit from the pilgrims, I dont think
hmm, they could be considered strong ?
it might have something to do with the uh
im trying to remember the term
Rite of Conquest
where it may be considered illegal for them to recruit from strangers
because they have a planet already technically
also, you dont want to recruit people not from your culture
don't want or absolutely forbiden ?
dont want, like I said, the promethean cult is such an important thing to Salamanders
Space Wolves only recruit from the island vikings on their planet
they have a group of people that arent vikings in the volcanic north of their homeworld
but they dont have
a certain culture
even for ultramarines
Uriel Ventris is very "different" compared to the others
because he was born on the dead world, and isnt noble or middle class
does class matter for every chapter ?
for a lot not really because of their homeworlds
like blood angels, space wolves, and salamanders
they come from death worlds
its a shitty world
same for Cretacia for Flesh Tearers
didn't search anything related but i just deduced they just take the best fitted candidates for the space marine process
some space marines own and look after hive worlds
they prefer low class hive gangers
because they have that killing instinct and survival instinct
Ultramarines dont care about class
but the middle class and high class tend to be the ones who survive long enough
to finish the test
also in for Ultramarines and their worlds
saw that hive worlds are really harsh, kinda wonder how they keep chaos at bay
your family goes up in class if you become a space marine
better life conditions ? (better food, shielded from danger, kinda lol, etc...) ?
in the arbites novel, the main character is shown to have some respect because they found out her great great great great great granduncle was a living space marine sergeant still serving in the ultramarinens
more prepared
you can read the Marneus Augustus Calgar comic for a better idea
ah yeah it's wild how you can stay really old for space marines
Blood Angels dont really care where they recruit from on their world, everyone is weak and tired from the radiation and harsh life of Baal Primus
also find it funny, is it the space wolves ? drinking the absolutely most poisonous plant just to get drunk
average age for a middle class citizen PRE-Great Rift is like what 200ish years old
It's like zaun in arcane but a billion times worse
So yes definitely
post great rift I think its lower
The amount of cultist
lmao great example 
And probably tyranids around the place is not to be underestimated
TYRANIDS ?!
Yeah, cleaning the underhives is a daily job
how could they get there ?
Gene-stealers
ah just heard the names
Genestealers
don't know much else
Mordia a hive world that sends out Mordian Iron guard regiments, typically make their first tours on the planet give or take
or rather
a regiment comes back for a bit
and has a little war with the hive gangers
whoever survives and gets caught
congratulations, welcome to the Guard
(mordian Iron Guard book)
rofl, just warhammer things ✨
for space marines its also training exercises
wiping out bad hive gangs, budding cultists and what not
i mean they couldn't do shit hahaha, almost feel bad for em
heard that if they added a Space Marine boss in Darktide, lore accurate, we just couldn't kill it, no matter what we would do
more like death guard space marine, mb
even on fenris they have to wait for recruitment, gotta wait to see what boys survive brutal clan wars
nurgle gift 
Yeah and if they recruit a non-fenrisian they just die or something
i mean yeah, even if we got plasma guns and stuff, we would be one shotted easily
I forget the exact details
every book I read where a normal human witnesses a space marine fighting, they are never in awe, they become afraid
They take the best candidates on worlds designated as "Recruiting worlds" for them
Those guys are tough as shit for space marines back when they were loyal and added with nurgle's gift they become walking tanks in terms of durability, and with the disease of nurgle there is a very low chance you will come out unscathed if you kill one
So they can't walk around grabbing whoever from wherever
Like in Dawn of War
All the planets in Aurelia are Blood Raven recruiting worlds
and add the pestilences and smell they got, enough to insta kill you with a wiff, really OP 
which btw, how the hell in Darktide are we able to survive going into infected hives without protective gear ?
Gameplay mechanics
prob the plotanium 
i mean, i'm not sure, but i think even tech priest can be affected ? in Mechanicus, when they're in infested Necron tombs, they can get weakened by the toxic fumes
bolter, combat blade, and pistol
Because we can, let me tell you, everytime we fought an plague ogryn we should have died and be unable to f****** fight
(which Guilliman wrote and used in the codex astartes, tactical marines are by design Mortarions)
yeah, let alone survive each and every attack 
in the game design world, we call that ludo-narrative dissonance (bioshock 1)
were just so focused in the fight we forget there's toxicity and just go throught unafected 🙏
or the emperor blesses us 
I had to google that real quick
the plogryns have skill issues
if the main character in bioshock was a normal person, he wouldnt see a syringe and stick himself with it
true lore
Last of Us 2, is also ludo-narrative dissonance
you can play through the whole game killing people but not kill Abby
what the fuck
fuck you Neil Druckmann
yeah true lol
if you play like a pacifist, you should be rewarded with the choice of sparing abby
if you killed everyone
you shouldnt have the choice
stupid fucking story writing
that's what i like about warhammer stuff, the community will be very harsh if not the little detail isn't respected, they don't let themselves be walked upon by inaccuracy, at least not as much as others
the community also likes to think fanon is real, so dont like us that quick
a lot of people dont read the books or codexes
what's that ?
fanon?
yeah
fan thinkings,
like imagining stuff related to the license ?
nah i like the accuracy bit more, its more "modern" myth
got to treat it like Tolkeinn fans treat their stuff
hate the "weird part" of every community, or like a big toxicity community, kinda like that one, thought i'm baffled by the talent of the avg artist, thought of participating in the recent art challenge, i saw some stuff and i went like "nah i'm not even gonna be on the top 500" 
Keep drawing tho
Hasnt stopped me
The true 40k experience is making your little guys
i'l definitely do, but i'm sure the community got high standarts coming to fan art, so i'm feeling complexed with my shitty skills pahaha 
since the insane skill here is absolutely insane, ive never seen that much skilled individuals in one community
miniature painting and all
and plus its a skill, you get better as long as you do it
yeah true
i can bet like more than two thirds of this community here dont even got the minis
or draw
or write anything 40k related
yeah i'm sure, tho the rare ones that do are very talented 😳
In fairness this is a tide community server with a 40k coat of paint


All depends on money, time commitment and desire to delve into the mini hobby
Some not by choice 😦
Yeah because let's be honest if I were to paint a mini it would look worse than an average nurgle worshipper
“If it has been done, then even you can do it.”
Marcus Aurelius or some shit
even though the lore exists only to make people want to buy expensive plastic
GW has been pretty clear that everything exists to serve plastic sales
and their paint range
Is that thing on the right supposed to be a necron?
I thought the same thing, but I’ve painted one space marine and while it’s not gonna be winning any awards it was pretty easy to make halfway decent looking.
Also I don't have money
I can't afford/can't order them 
Hey I’m broke too doesnt stop me from making incredibly poor financial decisions
Apparently it's a chaos android made by chaos squats
though maybe they were changed into Necrons later?
I make poor financial decisions but not that poor
Also i'm just a stupid moron
I don’t think you’re stupid at all friend, you’re already smarter than me because you didn’t buy into the Lore -> Plastic pipeline like I did lmao
Brother if you put me next to an average ork, that ork looks like Einstein
Considering it's... 1st edition or whatever I guess it's a chaos android
I gotta tell ya. When it hits the fan . . .and I mean REALLY hits the fans. There's only one chapter I want running point when chaos breaks lose. One chapter that makes the darkness shiver in fear. One chapter that stares deep into the oncoming storm and says, "Do your worst! For I shall do mine!". You guessed it folks. I'm calling the Space Wolves.
Ragnar Blackmane the mary sue of space wolves will be there
Blood Angels. Grey Knights. Ultramarines. There is a reason they look up to the wolves.

Plus, with Lemans imminent return, you can bet the Wolves are gonna take center stage soon.

I'm not sure whats more concerning. The fact that I realized that. Or the fact that you did almost immediately.
Twillight had awesome soundtrack, I liked it a bit too much
also its memey
the first one is anyway
The next primarch to return is going to be Ferrus Manus. He will just be an angry floating head
If my calculations are correct, Russ is next on deck.
Can you show your work?
Sanguinor is getting a "primach-sized" model because of some Avatar of Sanguinius shit. Some leaks suggest
It’s going to be Fulgrim.
Unless you meant loyalist.
Idk how I feel about that. Dante should be given way more time in the spotlight imo
Dante's model was completed back in 2019 funnily enough
he shouldve been out for a long time lmao but so many delays
He ||brings the lion back to the DA and attempts to 1v1 Angry Ron.||
Leaks Suggested anyway, its been rumoured for a long damn time
I imagine a lot of the old models are getting a relaunch little by little.
Tbh the new Cadians are what got me in to collecting AM.
no Grimnar yet, but since Termies can be either primaris vs firstborn
hes gonna be there I guess
Saw that in Valrak’s video. Just hope this doesn’t mean Dante’s going to be a bit part to other characters going forward.
Fulgrim should be the next overall primarch to make an appearance though, I agree
nah I kinda want Lorgar
He is the de facto ruler of nihilus so he will always be relevant.
see whats cool with him
We already know the next primarch is Fulgrim. :x
oh really?
ill take that too
I want the deredeo to get a plastic kit tho
I think thats my top want so far
the dickbikes are already plastic which is nice
so just the good ole walking gunboat
Emperor’s Children have been confirmed a long time ago to be getting their own codex in 10th around the same time they announced the WE. They wouldn’t make an EC codex without snakey boi.
its weird how Wings seem to be the "natural" evolution for primarchs

Oh I’d love to have Lorgar back soon. I’m just finishing up Apocalypse which goes fairly deep into the current situation of the Word Bearers, and I’d love to see how pissed Lorgar gets at Kor Phaeron and Erebus.
The lion became the green knight from warhammer fantasy for some reason.
Lorgar didn’t get them when he ascended.
I feel like thats just the evolved form of humans who are naturally mixed with the warp thing
like primarch zero
Neither did Peter turbo.
Perturabo will definitely have a fucking jet strapped to his back instead of organic wings
that would be fucking awesome
Titan grade weaponry on that badboy
then again he "lost" to mortarion in the war of rust and ruin
Daemon primarch Perturabo is just a chaos Baneblade with a face ala Thomas the tank engine
Perturabo during the war of rust and ruin, "superior tanks and tactics will win fights no matter what"
mortarion - "He shouldve coated it all with anti-rust watch this."
Shame we don't see more well animated warhammer fights
Who is this.
Horus
Leman Russ but bald
Primarch of the best wolf named legion
He sure does like that wolf pelt
Luna Wolves was the name of the sons of horus before they called themselves that
rebels on the moon told the emperor to tell his wolves to stop attacking after the early legion assaulted it
when Horus was reunited he kept the name Luna Wolves
like most wolf based themes
the moon symbol appears often in the legion
the Mournival
Basically its because of Roman wolf symbolism
ye
Guess its no coincidence thr SW have a group called Mooneaters
AAAA
Isn't Fenrir supposed to eat the sun though ?
Why are they called Space Wolves when their defining characteristic is their Wet LEOPARD Growl
Unless you count wulfen
YOU HAD TO FUCKING SAY IT

Still waiting for Ottoman chapter

Dilara if I had to read that series of words the amount of times that I did, everyone deserves to suffer
I entirely relate to this
idfk how many times they can write "wet leopard growl"
as many times as required

This reminds me of a book I read about early WW2 where the words "Hitler had surpassed Bismarck" were repeated at least 50 times in the first few dozen pages
Lmao
Hitler surpassed Bismark

some authors just find a phrase or word
and massively overuse it
Again, Eisenhorn is an inquisitor of the Ordo Xenos, but he deals a lot of time with heretics and cultists
Like FETH and GAK
like doesn't lovecraft basically have a different word he spams in every book
its very funny when you consider they are "Fuck" equilavents
then see half the characters in Darktide constantly swear
"USELESS FUCKING GUN"
It's a set of words, most of which mean "idk"
sci fi swears are great tbh
Frak
yeah
"bunch of Fraking skinjobs"
I need to pay someone to animate Guilliman waking up
I like how Dan later on retcons this and says something like “uhhh yeah Feth was actually some pre-imperial Tanith forest deity lol”
Kark and Grut are the ones for this area
Fanatic calls people "Clarty head" which Ithink is a real phrase
Its funny because other swear words are in there
bombaclat
I though the Warden were immune from the bot
b1 tch
but yeah as I was saying its funny because "fuck" isnt allowed in the books
@/wardens theyre swearing in here
AAA
Accent don't work
“Throne damned” and “throne cursed” are popular in the books.
I’m glad they’ve loosened up on allowing profanity in the books
We wouldn’t have gotten the best line in the Siege of Terra series without that happening
"Eat shit traitor."
who says that
Old Man Flesh Tearer
dang I was kinda hoping it was a primarch
It was actually Big E to Horus
that's based as hell
Blood Angel commanders were some of the of the most savage fucks during the siege of terra
old imperial fist lore
its not Halo with their autojacking armour
Also gib animated
https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/9o5n6i/excerptgs_iii_rise_of_the_primarch_guilliman_rise/
618 votes and 111 comments so far on Reddit
Ian Watson and Wet Leopard Growls, how many annoying 40k things can we talk about in one morning
I think my favorite line (that I know of) in 40k is still "get up" from kharn
Judging by how frustrated he is in one of the books, no
Lmao i hate it
Also this was so good yeah
I liked how "power fantasy" that was
The Armor of Cumtempt
Just Erebus, who's pretty formidable at that point, getting utterly bodied
I dont think Primarchs were designed for that, Erda and Emperor probably had like psychic blockades in their mind
sucks being primarchs, your parents just like
mentally neutering/block your inhibitions
Fulgrim canonically had a lot of wives
Weren't they political mostly
yeah
Yeah but like sex is sex my dude
if you had Fulgrim as a husband would you just ignore him
lmao
Yeah this.
Idk man I wouldn't risk it with something that big
having sex with 12ft tall people
LMAO
we are also probably thinking too deep into whether or not primarchs can fuck
I think ive seen this in furaffinity
The only question, do the members scale?
Jokes aside realistically speaking they 100% could
its just, not mentioned
because not important
lmao
probably
oh like Johnny Bravo
Judging by an inquisitor's description of marines as "equine" iirc, they probably do yeah

WH-
WHA

Yeah I think it's one of the Grey Knight books
why is it everytime someone sees a space marine without armour they immediately feel something
who was it

Keeler in the first horus heresy book?
on top of them being like basically demi gods to normal humans
this question can never be considered too much
primarchs can fuck
I thought the Space Marines didn’t have dongs
Thats never been said
because again, BL being BL
they are only told to be sterile
abstinent
aside from space wolves, which have had kids for some reason.
Ah I must’ve misunderstood then
and the book is very loose with its wording
and wheren't they from before he was a SM
SUS
prrof primarchs can fuck:
- the emperor made sure there were no ||female space marines|| to prevent breeding, or whatever
- he knew there would only ever be male primarchs
- he's such a super smart and sensible rational logical reasonable guy that he wouldn't waste time doing something pointless, like removing primarchs' reproductive organs since there'd only be male ones
- therefore primarchs have reproductive organs that function
- therefore primarchs can fuck
VERY likely yeah
tho like
if any Marines have sex it would be SW
they literally have humans serving them drinks as bar boys/girls
its literally a viking hall lol
man, Kid Lukas was a pimp...
Adult Lukas is also quite based
||emperor's children||
Lukas the Trickster is a great book btw id recommend anyone a read of it
Alright this begs the question, can Kor Phaeron and Luther have children since they weren’t technically full Astartes?
They would have been sterilized when they became astartes
More than likely before the mods
Luther rebelled because he didnt want to be abstinent
I figure to make them that juiced they had to be a bit more intrusive than with regular marines
Luther WANTED bitches
Lukas being based
The Watchers in the Dark are actually just all of Luther’s weird bastard children
all this horus heresy shit wouldve gone away if Emperor and Erda made 20/21 12ft tall Blank super human wives for the primarchs
Yeah jokes aside most people dont know the darwinistic selection process of the Marines is entirely pointless lol
You can literally just take normal recruits normally and put them through the meat-grinder instead
i mean blood angels kinda do that
They got chewed out for it
because of their jesus quiz at the end of the selection
Albeit politely
By Guilliman
Gist is "Mfker why are you making these poor morons live in a rad blasted hellscape while you sit in a majestic fortress, it literally makes no difference"
just the imperium shooting itself in the foot over and over and over again
Yeah which is fine
but when you try to argue with people about it
"NUUU IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE"
that is kinda the point of the imperium isn't it
Yeee
shooting itself in the foot constantly
yeah the imperium is a stupid idiot
Fitting that many of it's fans are stupid idiots
like me
And me

I am only one of those things, you choose which
||i once had someone argue to me that women couldn't be space marines because they wouldn't survive the death worlds + meat grinder and the space marines only n eeded the tippy-top .0001% of humanity||
i cant fucking believe im a part of this group
I WAS A CHAOS FAN
I WAS PURE
thats stupid
AND THEN ||GIRLS|| MADE ME INTO A GODDAMN IMPERIAL ARMY COLLECTOR
"How do they reproduce"
"Wym"
"How do they reproduce"
"Uhh"
yeeeppp
40k chaos should be less stupid goddamnit
i kinda like...the light elves in AOS more than the Fantasy counterparts...
How could someone genuinely argue that there are no women on death worlds lmfao. There are some real winners in the 40k fandom
Female chaos warriors my beloved
no no no that's not what the argument was mosin
Catachan women are tough as shit
imagine being in your third trimester AND wrestling the fauna on that planet
shout out to khornate daemons getting killed by catachan flora and fauna
the argument was that in order to be a space marine you needed to be so tough and strong that you had to have like
you needed to be so tough and strong to survive becoming a space marine you had to be a man because they have a slight biological advantage in building muscle, basically
god
that was the argument, which is like - patently stupid
except blood angel legions pre-sanguinius proved otherwise. considering they even recruited from mutants and weak humans
Its basically just sexist lol
Oh yeah that’s still super dumb
HUH
the argument isn't logical
the actual argument is "women are weak and couldn't be space marines"
because of lore sales 
there is bone size difference but muscles? man fuck that sexist
as i always say: it's because of sales pressures in the 80s and 90s
there were female marines in the 80s tho
Yeah and they didn't sell well so they got dumped
||the worst part is that this argument was presented to me on this discord (not in this channel but on another)||
RIP
The real reason there are no female Space Marines is because when they did exist in Rogue Trader days, no one bought them unfortunately
they got dumped, and then a bunch of nerds got SUPER attached to the "no female spcae marines" lore
it's becuase big E made the "girls are icky sign" and put in on the door of where he made the space marines
Yeah as with anything in 40k "it doesnt exist because money"
true lore
so now if GW were to change it there's a bunch of people who would throw a shitfit over it, y'know, for some reason
Honestly thats the thing
lmao
I feel like "why no Female Space Marines now" is like a bait now because some assholes just want to argue
Remember that time the community got all pissed because GW put out a post that said "Nazis bad"?

||tbh i think no female space marines would be okay if it was because the emperor and imperium was a sexist society, like nearly all fascist societies are but honestly thhat's probs a controversial opinion||
suddenly the sales for Krieg Troopers stopped
yeah i hgonestly try to avoid it and 90% of the time i bring it up it makes me regret even talking about it
It was that and uhhh
their BLM announcement
"Warhammer is for everyone"
I am glad the worst I have had to deal with for 40k fans is people aggressively yackin off certain factions and characters
also that dude wore a straight up swastika to the GW shop
Austrian Painter yep
Arch and his fans worst nightmare
like if GW did nothing thats just bad optics
basically he got into almost no trouble because Spain's laws with fascism is really weird
Wasn't it in Spain ?
GW never DIRECTLY addressed it but
huh?
I mean they were a Fascist country until like what, the 80s?
you could tell it was from that incident
wait huh
Thats what he went by 
yeah nazis aren't very clever
Oh Arch the YouTube guy is a huge racist lol
"oohoo i'm so edgy and cool, austrian painter, i bet it'll go under everyone's noses"
i didnt know that lmao wtf
You didn't know Arch may or may not be a neonazi?
dont even know him
i don't even know who that is
arch is a real fucker
ArchWarhammer WAS a very popular loretuber
he is also a nazi
I think the most recent shitshow is one of his mods being caught with CP/grooming someone
He used to be called ArchWarhammer spouting his terrible opinions until GW told him to drop the Warhammer part of his handle cause they wanted nothing to do with him
the only warhammer channel i watch on youtube is Warhamme Community
Long story short, Arch basically made lots of offensive content.
||Like calling Gnoblars from Fantasy the "house n-word."||
Also deleted like 60% of the videos on his channel
I wonder why
jesus
Hey anyone remember Commissar Gamza?
OOF
thank god GW cares about their optics
No but I wanna
who
ive not heard of this one
Tell me about him
that someome in here or a youtuber
I love Commissars
I've mostly repressed my memory of him but he was a character to be sure
Gamza is another Arch adjacent content creator
Why would you repress the memory of a commissar
He looked like Yandev in a commissar outfit, it was hilarious
oop
Oh my god
youjust reminded me yanderedev exists
Fuck
I just went to check his channel
i have to go check in on yandere simulator's development
I think it’s actually finished
LMAO
Oh ffs
"the lion came back and 40K got destroyed" ok buddy
skill issued
Was complaining about 40k "Losing it's Grimdark"
Like the guy that made Death of Hope
||bro im so sorry to let you know but it's not, i just checked||
MajorKill is not only a racist but he’s also incredibly annoying
I legit don’t care about Grimdark anymore
you got a virus, all the letters got fucked up 
At least they eat eachother
He is ?
That’s why I play guard and ultramarines
OH FFS
skill issued



