#40k-lore-chat

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arctic talon
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In most instances

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But some are nastier and give you horrific diseases

gloomy citrus
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They just look like shit.

arctic talon
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Yeah

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Tbh nid weapons are nightmare fuel

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In general

languid salmon
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its great

arctic talon
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Most of them fire out smaller creatures that eat you

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It is great

rose thorn
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yee its great

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i hate that most of the guns use a muscle to launch it and not a natural combustion chamber like alot of irl bugs use

languid salmon
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honestly one of my favorite descriptions was of a tyranid psykic power that turns peoples brains into bioforms that eat them from the inside out

rose thorn
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but bugs are my hyper fixation

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so its litearlly only me complaining

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'alot' as in mostly variatns of stink bugs

gloomy citrus
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Man. Chaos > Tyranids.

rose thorn
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honestly every 40k faction is cool

languid salmon
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yep and which one is the best ends up being personal preference.

rose thorn
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i honestly prefer AOS lore more but thats because everything is sligthly less stupid

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but the stupidity is why 40k is fun

languid salmon
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unless you are GW then it is obviously marines

rose thorn
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ah yes dont you wanna play the space marine game hours heresy?

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space marines v space marines v space mairnes

coarse pumice
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rogue trader had something about it that was lost even in 2nd edition

rose thorn
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DAmn i love rogue traders

languid salmon
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begins psykicly screaming

coarse pumice
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interestingly, most marines pictures were them being blasted

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though they had some cool moments

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maybe that's just an impression because them being blasted isn't so common these days I guess?

arctic talon
rose thorn
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yeaA

arctic talon
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It’s more about the grand alliances

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40k has always been about humanity

rose thorn
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and also every faction can fight every other faction

arctic talon
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For better or for worse

rose thorn
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and it doenst feel weird

arctic talon
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Tbh same applies to 40k

rose thorn
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unliek half of the factions in 40k is locked off without some weird over explained bullshit

arctic talon
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Ehh

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Disagree

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The guard and marines fighting each other could be as simple as

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One pissed off the other

languid salmon
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or one turned traitor

arctic talon
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Yeah

summer rover
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imperium fights itself all the time, their orders are not organized

arctic talon
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Admech try not to backstab everyone challenge(impossible)

iron locust
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Even tyranid fleets kill each other to prove who is strongest

near wasp
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What

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That goes against everything the tyranids are. Thats so dumb

arctic talon
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No it doesn’t?

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Whichever one comes out on top

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Is the same size as both of them

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And has both adaptations

languid salmon
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less to prove which is strongest but instead exchange DNA, or absorb biomass from a destroyed fleet remenants

arctic talon
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^

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They don’t lose anything

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99% of the time

near wasp
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But why? Isnt it just a waste of energy

arctic talon
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It isn’t

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They aren’t losing much energy

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Fighting each other

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Especially since they don’t always have a place to go fast

languid salmon
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the hive fleets are united but sometimes its good to reclaim lost biomass while testing your own stock

arctic talon
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^

near wasp
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Ah yes the orc practice of inflight entertainment

languid salmon
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hive fleet hydra is most well know for this

coarse pumice
near wasp
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Dudes more machine than the average tech priest

rose thorn
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That’s the most cursed point cost I’ve ever seen

desert dust
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I wonder what I can spend that half point on.
Think of the possibilities.

summer rover
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autogun, some grenades, i think you can get a knife but he's already got one so-

versed ledge
coarse pumice
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1st edition

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when they were kind of creepier tbh

versed ledge
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How creepy

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And what did they do to their "captives"

coarse pumice
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their deformed heads and blobby looks had a disturbing feel that 'cool bugs' we get now don't have

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I think there needs to be some sort of oddness for the effect, and not look cool or disgusting for coolness or disgusting's sake

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the face of the original hive tyrant seems more intimidating than its modern counterparts

summer rover
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they threw out the alien feel for being more marketable, which is weird for an army of alien monsters.

crimson kayak
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alien monsters from another galaxy

big weird reptile bugs

languid salmon
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They look more alien than than other xenos in the galaxy

rose thorn
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wAIT IS THE CHAOS WARRIORS FROM VERMINTIDE SUPPOSED TO BE NORSCA

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OMG I JSUT REALIZED

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LMAO

storm jungle
rose thorn
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CHAOS WARRIORS LOOK LIKE VIKINGS

storm jungle
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THEY LITERALLY GOT THE HORNED HELMETS

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WHAT DID YOU THINK THEY WERE

rose thorn
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THE NROMAL ASS CHAOS FACTION

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IN TTWH

storm jungle
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NO YOU DOOFUS THEY ARE ROTBLOOD CHAOS WARRIORS

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PEOPLE OWE ALLEGIANCE TO STUFF

rose thorn
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IT HOUGHT THEY WERE THESE GUYS

storm jungle
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No they are just chaos warriors

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CW can be a part of any specific warband

rose thorn
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slavest o darkness

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thats whom i thought they were

midnight ore
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good old fantasy

rose thorn
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and just a large amount of them liked nrugel lam

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lmao

midnight ore
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slavest o darkness susgryn

rose thorn
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OH

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lmao

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pls every chaos fantasy warbands look exactly the same

storm jungle
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the dark armor look is for the "generic warrior" for artwork purposes

plush mason
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speaking of fantasy. what is up with the chaos dwarves' hats?

midnight ore
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its their thing

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bigger hat higher status

plush mason
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i can only assume its a status symbol and/or its the same thinking like with the bearskins the French/English royal guard wore into battle

crisp heath
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Ah man I missed nid talk

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I'm going to stockpile the old gants while brand new boxes are available just because they're so much cuter than the new ones

storm jungle
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After that the design just kinda stuck and GW went ham with it

plush mason
plush mason
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anyone know if there is any lore on who or what Azgorh was?

queen laurel
# storm jungle

After learning about the chaos dwarves, i fell in love with them, if someone can give choo-choo Charles a run for his money it would be them

celest dome
topaz gate
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I really wanna get some context on this. So I got an Ultramarine army (yeah I know crucify me later) and I did know that people really don’t like the Ultramarines but like… why? What did these blueberries do to earn such disgust?

celest dome
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Gary Sue symptom and over representation

topaz gate
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Can you elaborate?

shadow plover
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people are butt hurt from things that happened 10 years ago

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a codex writer embellished them a tad bit too much, calling them the best of the best of the space marines and so on

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so not anything really worth caring about

topaz gate
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Yeah that would do it

shadow plover
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it's honestly really silly how people still get their knickers in a twist about it

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Ultras are cool and Guilliman is a great character in modern 40k chadogryn

vale shuttle
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yeah it's just ancient meme shit

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ultramarines are fine. a tad overrepresented but they're the designated 40K Representative Faction™️ soooo

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🤷

shadow plover
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yeah they just happen to be the box art subfaction for the most represented faction which also seems to bother people

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people would be complaining about Blood Angels in the same manner if they'd still be the box art faction for space marines

shadow plover
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well true, I still live in the 2010s

green loom
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Same staregryn

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looks at video from 2015
"Oh that must be like 3 years old"
8 years ago

shadow plover
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yyeaah

green loom
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But yeah people parrot old memes as usual

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TTS made it worse

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Ironically they meme on Cato but he's one of their better characters chadogryn

coarse pumice
near wasp
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I like the ultramarines

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But ive always been super into logistics and stuff so thats understandable

vale shuttle
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if you want to win a duel, study combat. if you want to win a battle, study tactics. if you want to win a war, study logistics.

near wasp
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Yep troobs cant fight if they dont have gear food and water

crimson kayak
astral whale
heavy bison
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Anyone know of any Roman-esque worlds that have space marine chapters outside the Ultrasmurfs and Fists.

Torn between Smurfs and something else.

green loom
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Most Ultras successors

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BA can have some similar style too

crimson kayak
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3/4 of ultra's successors, then there's a bunch of greek/mediterranean civ. based chapters lookwise

vale shuttle
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you could always homebrew your own Banath!!!

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make up your own not!Ultramarines

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on a world of not!Rome

crimson kayak
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iron snakes too now that i think about it

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oh wait they are ultra successors

heavy bison
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Mostly just want to justify adding a bunch of wolf pelts to vanguards (velites) bear to standard bearers and Lion to comms men. Plumes and pelts for officers etc. also a bunch of leather straps and rondels (the old Roman equivalent of a medal, I forgot what they were called.)

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And maybe play with like, grape vines as base decorations.

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Might just go smurfs.

celest dome
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You could just homebrew?

green loom
heavy bison
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Home brew is an option. Maybe when I’m done working my brain muscle writing more lore for the SO’s Heretical Sisters of Khorne.

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Still need to design an icon for their order. Current working name is Order of the Bloody throne.

celest dome
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Order of the Bloodied Saint

near wasp
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Order of the Flensed Skull

gloomy citrus
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Order of the Bloody Rose?

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No, wait. One already exists.

crisp heath
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Sisters Stabby

gloomy citrus
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And how would the leader be called?

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A daemon princess?

celest dome
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Valkia

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But run it as a Living Saint

gloomy citrus
green loom
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Khorne doesn't care

gloomy citrus
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He does care if the blood is spilled by magic.

heavy bison
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Current Leader is Living Saint Carmine.

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Only I’ve got Morathi’s wings to kitbash onto a Zepyrim to make her. Using Khinerai wings for the Geminae and other Zephyrim.

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Geminae Sisters Elisabeth and Bathory.

heavy bison
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Figured out concepts for most units except for tracked vehicles. Just figuring out how to design the novitiates.

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Arco flagellants and penitent engines are all Ecclesiarchy members and Ordo members that deny the saint’s truth.

Mortifiers are used by sisters who are not content just giving the blood of the heathens to Khorne but their own as well.

Warsuits will either be like their own dreadnoughts or overly mutated sisters.

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I largely plan for being able run them as sisters though, but all their Faith based stuff can be handwaved to chaos boons easy enough.

rose thorn
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I’m so sad kroot aren’t their own army, they are literally the perfect aesthetic for what I like

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And then learning they were gonna be their own army but ran out of ideas

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Is the saddest shit ever

queen laurel
celest dome
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Gore mage don't use magic to kill though, only to locate or possess people

queen laurel
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If you use magic to kill sure khorne will hate you

plush mason
celest dome
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If you do it cowardly, but otherwise you could be fine

queen laurel
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Like in Skyrim when using clairvoyance and then bringing out a large hammer

signal bramble
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Or just play killteam.

rose thorn
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Yeah I was thinking killteam

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I’m not very very into tau

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But I’m not a big fan of the gundam atheistic

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huge knight fan
doesn’t like gundum

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hasn’t wtached gundum In years

signal bramble
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I don’t like gundam either and I’m a knights main. :p

queen laurel
rose thorn
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Okay Ballin

signal bramble
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I had a friend whose huge in to Gundam though, was massively obsessed in fact before he sadly passed. I was tempted to create a mechanized Tau army and paint them zeon colors in his honor.

rose thorn
queen laurel
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Pacific rim

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Imperial knights

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Stuff like that

rose thorn
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The cowboy kroot :,(

rose thorn
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It seems good

crimson kayak
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Technically speaking, outside of the soulstorm cinematic do we have any official animation of battlesuit combat?

queen laurel
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When you have time

queen laurel
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But you want you can watch the exodite crap

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That's what it was called

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I think

heavy bison
queen laurel
heavy bison
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He goes through what all the conversions are.

crimson kayak
queen laurel
heavy bison
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I mean its Counts-as a Ta'unar

queen laurel
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Thinking outside the box

crimson kayak
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even through now i want to do get a squiggot just to make it into a brastoise

queen laurel
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Now that's

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An image

signal bramble
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In the exodite animation we see some.

crimson kayak
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oh shit that's some bad animation

rose thorn
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OH YEAH EXOFITE EXISTS

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Exodites*

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Expodite*

crimson kayak
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that stealth suit do be acting like a dreadnought lol

rose thorn
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I forgot that ever released

queen laurel
rose thorn
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I forgot Tau speak like good translate

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Google*

signal bramble
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Exodite has krieg vs Tau at some point. I didn’t watch it because I think warhammer + is a ripoff but I am aware of it. XD

rose thorn
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I have no clue how to describe the kroot vibe

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But it’s literally perfect

crimson kayak
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well, just looked at what bigger battlesuit animated combat looks in the exodite and apparently it's minecraft players with the fly command

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also for some fucking reason they send xv8 battlesuits against titans when their armour is not made against heavy weapons

queen laurel
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That's what i see

crimson kayak
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orks, but avian and intelligent

rose thorn
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It’s like a space cowboy bandit vibe

crimson kayak
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western aliens

rose thorn
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It’s scrappy but not in an orky way but a survivalist way

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I love it

signal bramble
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Also they eat people.

copper patrol
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well they eat almost anything

signal bramble
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And just about anything else.

copper patrol
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that they determine would be usefu;

signal bramble
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Though they did try eating necrons before. It ended badly.

copper patrol
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they are basically nids but not "muh galaxy ending bug monsters"

signal bramble
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They had their dude that carries their stuff eat beasts of burden to make him strong but too dumb to complain.

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Their shapers will carefully pick what trait. Like having their tracker eat a dog for the bloodhound nose. Etc.

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The kasrkin novel has some interesting kroot lore.

rose thorn
queen laurel
rose thorn
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I also adore the beast tamer vibe

crimson kayak
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and they actually turn green and jacked

crimson kayak
rose thorn
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I understand why gw didn’t go full ham and make a full army

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Because it would mostly be infantry and be very mute colors

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And kinda blob together

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But like

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Damn :(

queen laurel
copper patrol
queen laurel
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Kroot assault squad with wings for mobility and striking

rose thorn
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It would be alot of animalistic units

queen laurel
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Ork kroots for muscle

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Breaking the frontline

crimson kayak
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kroot psykers are a thing too

queen laurel
copper patrol
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like how sparkling water tastes

crimson kayak
queen laurel
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Considering that they have a lot of adaptation capabilities

rose thorn
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Weird that the tau leader guys aren’t pykers

queen laurel
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They could field a lot of tactics

crimson kayak
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btw i would think a kroot full army more akin to 40k lizardmen

queen laurel
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Out of all the factions they definitely the most lizard like

copper patrol
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I mean the tau havelike

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tiny baby souls

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in the warp

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so they can't have psykers afaik

crimson kayak
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for the big colored recognizable bits they would just have to mix more native-american looks into the western look so it would be feasible

rose thorn
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Yesss

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I’ve been trying to motivate my self to do warhammer shit and I need to finish a project

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So I wanna start a new project and detach my self form everything else until I finish it lol

signal bramble
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Or if it's an infantry unit try doing one model or part of a model per day.

rose thorn
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maybe jsut a killteam or warcry or even just 250 points

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aka like

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a battleline adn an hq lol

balmy tusk
dense mortar
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Went to the Warhammer store this past couple weeks in Tokyo. Was not disappointed.

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I take that back. I was disappointed. Not ONE space wolf mini on display.

summer rover
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games workshop trying to keep them from adopting the best chapter like EU and US fanbases have.

odd palm
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Best chapter?

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🤨

summer rover
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you heard me.

dense mortar
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You heard him!

thick cedar
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What does the average citizen know about the emperor

storm jungle
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aka either

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Made up shit

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Hes a great figure

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Anything the locals perceive and worship him as

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the Imperial Creed is as flexible as possible to make sure every human under the Imperium worships him

near wasp
odd palm
summer rover
odd palm
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It is with a grim heart that I must inform you, that the statement is objectively wrong.
I am sorry that no one has told you this sooner, it is regrettable

summer rover
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what chapter could you possibly think is better than the space wolves?

odd palm
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It depends

summer rover
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depends on what, how fast i'm going to mock your awful taste?

odd palm
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Depends on what needs to be done

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But overall the UMs are the best chapter by a margin none can match

summer rover
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the nerds whose main trait is "there's a fuckton of us because we have a billion successor chapters that are exactly the same"? i'm sure if you roll the dice enough you'll end up with more total wins just by brute forcing it.

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isn't their defining growth trait male pattern baldness?

odd palm
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They are the premier chapter who all others are compared against for a reason.
The Space Wolves hardly stack up being.....a melee chapter as their only trait?

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Got to many of those who do it better

summer rover
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they also drink and party, which is way cooler. and therefore best.

odd palm
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So....they get drunk and party instead of doing their job?
And that makes them better?

summer rover
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also i'm pretty sure all the others are compared to them because their stupid book is used for comparison.

odd palm
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Huh

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Well I'll be

summer rover
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they get drunk and party while doing their job! rock stars, baby!

odd palm
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We have the guard for that

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Next

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I'll write that down, not the best chapter. Good chat

crimson kayak
odd palm
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Space Wolf fans don't know that, they can't read

summer rover
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they must act nothing like ultramarines, i bet i mistake 'em for dark angels

crimson kayak
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Like, pre primaris there was like, 3 wolf "successors" and either got the Inquisitorial blamming or outright fell to chaos

crimson kayak
odd palm
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The SWs is an under performing lineage with a gene-seed to match

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Also, you'd be hard pressed to find many successors being a 1 for 1 copy of their progenitor

signal bramble
crimson kayak
summer rover
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with GW's current writers, that's a scary though

odd palm
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Indeed espcially with || The Lion returning and bringing non corrupted Fallen (Risen) back into the fold||

signal bramble
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Yep, ||non-chaos corrupted Fallen are now welcomed back in to the fold. They are redeemed.||

odd palm
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The DAs governing personality trait is gone

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Or I would presume will be gone

signal bramble
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The arks book ||doesn't show their reaction to being reunited with their primarch,|| that will probably be in the new Lion book.

odd palm
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Yeah, good chance

signal bramble
odd palm
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I would presume the book will also show Johnson and Guilliman catching up

signal bramble
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It is pretty funny to imagine it, Azrael says, "my lord these are Fallen!"

Lion: "I said they're cool, now hug it out. We've got monsters to hunt."

crimson kayak
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Tbf the Loyal fallen probably did a better job than the dark angels at defending the imperium anyway

signal bramble
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We don't know what they were doing, if they're on the run, if they're with Luther, etc.

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That Lion primarch book better have a lot of lore. >_>;

queen laurel
crimson kayak
odd palm
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Hard to say how much good the Fallen have done.
But it's hard to say the DAs are a consistent boon for humanity whenever they're on the hunt, as anyone or thing in the way of them and their target is an acceptable casualty

summer rover
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i mean, they hunt evil, they're just....usually very picky about how much the help directly.

midnight ore
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the problem should be solved soon

dense mortar
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I shall return in full Space Wolf force soon battle brother.

coarse pumice
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Craftworlders are mentally stable

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Eldar made the webway

summer rover
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i mean, we knew they made the webway. they don't exactly hide it.

odd palm
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Yeah the Eldar inherited the webway from the old ones and developed it based on their needs

coarse pumice
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I've heard that a lot but never any canon/true source, but to entertain it, in the same way when you learn to make clay pots, you're inheriting how to make the pot, but you still made the pot

odd palm
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Apparently the DE 5th ed codex and the Eldar 4th ed codex make reference to this

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I haven't read the newer ones so I have no clue if this has been retconned

coarse pumice
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the 4th Ed codex states it how I said it

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they made it from techniques learnt from the old ones, but they still made it

green loom
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Whoever thoughts of calling them "The Risen" should probably be shot

odd palm
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Well they stopped falling

green loom
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At least it isn't "The Forgiven" KEKW_ogryn

crimson kayak
cinder meadow
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let's continue here @orchid lark catbop

orchid lark
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also all primarch homeworlds are heavily fortified to some extent

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in devastation of baal, Baal has like

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millions on millions of people making pilgrimage to Sanguinius birth world

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that said the Space Wolves/ Ragnar Black Mane books never make notice of it. So maybe no one wants to go make a pilgrimage to Fenris, maybe Leman Russ is not popular on the who should we worship ladder

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it can be assumed that Prometheus and Nocturne, Nocturne already being fortified to hell and back, are probably places with some pilgrims

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We know from some codex space marines, people go visit Roboute Guillimann when he was still frozen in stasis too

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but they dont recruit from the pilgrims, I dont think

cinder meadow
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hmm, they could be considered strong ?

orchid lark
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it might have something to do with the uh

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im trying to remember the term

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Rite of Conquest

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where it may be considered illegal for them to recruit from strangers

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because they have a planet already technically

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also, you dont want to recruit people not from your culture

cinder meadow
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don't want or absolutely forbiden ?

orchid lark
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dont want, like I said, the promethean cult is such an important thing to Salamanders

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Space Wolves only recruit from the island vikings on their planet

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they have a group of people that arent vikings in the volcanic north of their homeworld

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but they dont have

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a certain culture

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even for ultramarines

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Uriel Ventris is very "different" compared to the others

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because he was born on the dead world, and isnt noble or middle class

cinder meadow
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does class matter for every chapter ?

orchid lark
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for a lot not really because of their homeworlds

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like blood angels, space wolves, and salamanders

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they come from death worlds

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its a shitty world

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same for Cretacia for Flesh Tearers

cinder meadow
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didn't search anything related but i just deduced they just take the best fitted candidates for the space marine process

orchid lark
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some space marines own and look after hive worlds

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they prefer low class hive gangers

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because they have that killing instinct and survival instinct

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Ultramarines dont care about class

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but the middle class and high class tend to be the ones who survive long enough

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to finish the test

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also in for Ultramarines and their worlds

cinder meadow
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saw that hive worlds are really harsh, kinda wonder how they keep chaos at bay

orchid lark
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your family goes up in class if you become a space marine

cinder meadow
orchid lark
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in the arbites novel, the main character is shown to have some respect because they found out her great great great great great granduncle was a living space marine sergeant still serving in the ultramarinens

orchid lark
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you can read the Marneus Augustus Calgar comic for a better idea

cinder meadow
#

ah yeah it's wild how you can stay really old for space marines

orchid lark
#

Blood Angels dont really care where they recruit from on their world, everyone is weak and tired from the radiation and harsh life of Baal Primus

cinder meadow
#

also find it funny, is it the space wolves ? drinking the absolutely most poisonous plant just to get drunk

orchid lark
queen laurel
#

So yes definitely

orchid lark
#

post great rift I think its lower

queen laurel
#

The amount of cultist

cinder meadow
queen laurel
#

And probably tyranids around the place is not to be underestimated

cinder meadow
#

TYRANIDS ?!

orchid lark
#

Yeah, cleaning the underhives is a daily job

cinder meadow
#

how could they get there ?

orchid lark
#

Gene-stealers

cinder meadow
#

ah just heard the names

queen laurel
cinder meadow
#

don't know much else

orchid lark
#

Mordia a hive world that sends out Mordian Iron guard regiments, typically make their first tours on the planet give or take

#

or rather

#

a regiment comes back for a bit

#

and has a little war with the hive gangers

#

whoever survives and gets caught

#

congratulations, welcome to the Guard

#

(mordian Iron Guard book)

cinder meadow
#

rofl, just warhammer things ✨

orchid lark
#

for space marines its also training exercises

#

wiping out bad hive gangs, budding cultists and what not

green loom
#

Should be noted

#

Space Wolves can only recruit from Fenris

cinder meadow
#

i mean they couldn't do shit hahaha, almost feel bad for em

#

heard that if they added a Space Marine boss in Darktide, lore accurate, we just couldn't kill it, no matter what we would do

#

more like death guard space marine, mb

green loom
#

Well in theory we have guns that can kill them

#

Problem is

orchid lark
#

even on fenris they have to wait for recruitment, gotta wait to see what boys survive brutal clan wars

green loom
#

Marines tend to be

#

Very fast

cinder meadow
green loom
#

And very accurate

#

And very durable

green loom
cinder meadow
#

i mean yeah, even if we got plasma guns and stuff, we would be one shotted easily

green loom
#

I forget the exact details

orchid lark
#

every book I read where a normal human witnesses a space marine fighting, they are never in awe, they become afraid

green loom
queen laurel
# cinder meadow more like death guard space marine, mb

Those guys are tough as shit for space marines back when they were loyal and added with nurgle's gift they become walking tanks in terms of durability, and with the disease of nurgle there is a very low chance you will come out unscathed if you kill one

green loom
#

So they can't walk around grabbing whoever from wherever

#

Like in Dawn of War

#

All the planets in Aurelia are Blood Raven recruiting worlds

cinder meadow
#

which btw, how the hell in Darktide are we able to survive going into infected hives without protective gear ?

green loom
#

Gameplay mechanics

cinder meadow
#

prob the plotanium dogekek

orchid lark
#

it be the mortarion teachings

#

fight in any conditions

#

as long as you fight

cinder meadow
#

i mean, i'm not sure, but i think even tech priest can be affected ? in Mechanicus, when they're in infested Necron tombs, they can get weakened by the toxic fumes

orchid lark
#

bolter, combat blade, and pistol

queen laurel
orchid lark
#

(which Guilliman wrote and used in the codex astartes, tactical marines are by design Mortarions)

cinder meadow
orchid lark
cinder meadow
#

were just so focused in the fight we forget there's toxicity and just go throught unafected 🙏

#

or the emperor blesses us dogekek

queen laurel
copper patrol
#

the plogryns have skill issues

orchid lark
#

if the main character in bioshock was a normal person, he wouldnt see a syringe and stick himself with it

copper patrol
#

true lore

orchid lark
#

Last of Us 2, is also ludo-narrative dissonance

#

you can play through the whole game killing people but not kill Abby

#

what the fuck

#

fuck you Neil Druckmann

cinder meadow
#

yeah true lol

orchid lark
#

if you play like a pacifist, you should be rewarded with the choice of sparing abby

#

if you killed everyone

#

you shouldnt have the choice

#

stupid fucking story writing

cinder meadow
#

that's what i like about warhammer stuff, the community will be very harsh if not the little detail isn't respected, they don't let themselves be walked upon by inaccuracy, at least not as much as others

orchid lark
#

the community also likes to think fanon is real, so dont like us that quick

#

a lot of people dont read the books or codexes

cinder meadow
#

what's that ?

orchid lark
#

fanon?

cinder meadow
#

yeah

orchid lark
#

fan thinkings,

cinder meadow
#

like imagining stuff related to the license ?

orchid lark
#

like Salamanders are the goodest good boys

#

when not really

cinder meadow
#

eh i don't really mind tbh

#

das just me dogekek

orchid lark
#

nah i like the accuracy bit more, its more "modern" myth

#

got to treat it like Tolkeinn fans treat their stuff

cinder meadow
#

hate the "weird part" of every community, or like a big toxicity community, kinda like that one, thought i'm baffled by the talent of the avg artist, thought of participating in the recent art challenge, i saw some stuff and i went like "nah i'm not even gonna be on the top 500" risitorded

orchid lark
#

Keep drawing tho

#

Hasnt stopped me

#

The true 40k experience is making your little guys

cinder meadow
#

i'l definitely do, but i'm sure the community got high standarts coming to fan art, so i'm feeling complexed with my shitty skills pahaha zoomlol

orchid lark
#

not really

#

you see the stuff people paint?

cinder meadow
#

since the insane skill here is absolutely insane, ive never seen that much skilled individuals in one community

#

miniature painting and all

orchid lark
#

and plus its a skill, you get better as long as you do it

cinder meadow
#

yeah true

orchid lark
#

i can bet like more than two thirds of this community here dont even got the minis

#

or draw

#

or write anything 40k related

cinder meadow
#

yeah i'm sure, tho the rare ones that do are very talented 😳

orchid lark
#

i have a google doc of my space marine chapter

#

that I started

#

like

#

8 years ago

cinder meadow
#

damn

#

i usually either finish stuff or give up dogekek

odd palm
#

In fairness this is a tide community server with a 40k coat of paint

storm jungle
#

Even then most 40k lore fans don't own any minis.

#

It's not that different here.

odd palm
storm jungle
odd palm
#

All depends on money, time commitment and desire to delve into the mini hobby

orchid lark
#

reading comprenhension is also another thing

#

insert pissing on the poor joke here

green loom
queen laurel
orchid lark
#

“If it has been done, then even you can do it.”
Marcus Aurelius or some shit

vale shuttle
#

GW has been pretty clear that everything exists to serve plastic sales

orchid lark
#

and their paint range

coarse pumice
queen laurel
pseudo depot
green loom
#

I can't afford/can't order them Sitgryn

pseudo depot
#

Hey I’m broke too doesnt stop me from making incredibly poor financial decisions

coarse pumice
#

though maybe they were changed into Necrons later?

queen laurel
#

Also i'm just a stupid moron

pseudo depot
queen laurel
crimson kayak
dense mortar
#

I gotta tell ya. When it hits the fan . . .and I mean REALLY hits the fans. There's only one chapter I want running point when chaos breaks lose. One chapter that makes the darkness shiver in fear. One chapter that stares deep into the oncoming storm and says, "Do your worst! For I shall do mine!". You guessed it folks. I'm calling the Space Wolves.

orchid lark
#

Ragnar Blackmane the mary sue of space wolves will be there

dense mortar
#

Blood Angels. Grey Knights. Ultramarines. There is a reason they look up to the wolves.

storm jungle
orchid lark
dense mortar
#

Plus, with Lemans imminent return, you can bet the Wolves are gonna take center stage soon.

pseudo depot
orchid lark
#

you actually used a twillight gif

#

go team jacob i guess

dense mortar
#

I'm not sure whats more concerning. The fact that I realized that. Or the fact that you did almost immediately.

orchid lark
#

Twillight had awesome soundtrack, I liked it a bit too much

#

also its memey

#

the first one is anyway

pseudo depot
#

The next primarch to return is going to be Ferrus Manus. He will just be an angry floating head

dense mortar
pseudo depot
#

Can you show your work?

orchid lark
#

Sanguinor is getting a "primach-sized" model because of some Avatar of Sanguinius shit. Some leaks suggest

signal bramble
#

Unless you meant loyalist.

pseudo depot
orchid lark
#

Dante's model was completed back in 2019 funnily enough

#

he shouldve been out for a long time lmao but so many delays

signal bramble
orchid lark
signal bramble
#

I imagine a lot of the old models are getting a relaunch little by little.

#

Tbh the new Cadians are what got me in to collecting AM.

orchid lark
#

no Grimnar yet, but since Termies can be either primaris vs firstborn

#

hes gonna be there I guess

pseudo depot
#

Fulgrim should be the next overall primarch to make an appearance though, I agree

orchid lark
#

nah I kinda want Lorgar

signal bramble
orchid lark
#

see whats cool with him

signal bramble
#

We already know the next primarch is Fulgrim. :x

orchid lark
#

oh really?

#

ill take that too

#

I want the deredeo to get a plastic kit tho

#

I think thats my top want so far

#

the dickbikes are already plastic which is nice

#

so just the good ole walking gunboat

signal bramble
#

Emperor’s Children have been confirmed a long time ago to be getting their own codex in 10th around the same time they announced the WE. They wouldn’t make an EC codex without snakey boi.

orchid lark
#

its weird how Wings seem to be the "natural" evolution for primarchs

copper patrol
pseudo depot
#

Oh I’d love to have Lorgar back soon. I’m just finishing up Apocalypse which goes fairly deep into the current situation of the Word Bearers, and I’d love to see how pissed Lorgar gets at Kor Phaeron and Erebus.

signal bramble
#

The lion became the green knight from warhammer fantasy for some reason.

copper patrol
#

I think that's like baby daemon princes first gift

#

is wings

signal bramble
#

Lorgar didn’t get them when he ascended.

orchid lark
#

like primarch zero

signal bramble
#

Neither did Peter turbo.

orchid lark
#

Perturabo will definitely have a fucking jet strapped to his back instead of organic wings

#

that would be fucking awesome

copper patrol
#

tbh hopfully perty is just

#

a big fuck off obliterator

#

visually

orchid lark
#

Titan grade weaponry on that badboy

#

then again he "lost" to mortarion in the war of rust and ruin

pseudo depot
#

Daemon primarch Perturabo is just a chaos Baneblade with a face ala Thomas the tank engine

copper patrol
#

i'd also like to see what corvus looks like

orchid lark
#

Perturabo during the war of rust and ruin, "superior tanks and tactics will win fights no matter what"
mortarion - "He shouldve coated it all with anti-rust watch this."

green loom
#

Shame we don't see more well animated warhammer fights

dense mortar
#

Who is this.

celest dome
#

Horus

orchid lark
#

Leman Russ but bald

celest dome
#

Primarch of the best wolf named legion

dense mortar
#

He sure does like that wolf pelt

orchid lark
#

Luna Wolves was the name of the sons of horus before they called themselves that

#

rebels on the moon told the emperor to tell his wolves to stop attacking after the early legion assaulted it

#

when Horus was reunited he kept the name Luna Wolves

#

like most wolf based themes

#

the moon symbol appears often in the legion

#

the Mournival

storm jungle
#

Basically its because of Roman wolf symbolism

orchid lark
#

ye

dense mortar
#

Guess its no coincidence thr SW have a group called Mooneaters

storm jungle
#

AAAA

orchid lark
#

thats because of the myth on fenris

#

Remember there are no wolves on Fenris.

celest dome
#

Isn't Fenrir supposed to eat the sun though ?

storm jungle
#

Ssssh

#

different lore

pseudo depot
#

Why are they called Space Wolves when their defining characteristic is their Wet LEOPARD Growl

dense mortar
green loom
#

Still waiting for Ottoman chapter

storm jungle
#

If only.

#

tho british people are the last person i trust with handling that

copper patrol
pseudo depot
storm jungle
#

idfk how many times they can write "wet leopard growl"

copper patrol
#

as many times as requiredwhatthefuck_heresy

storm jungle
green loom
#

This reminds me of a book I read about early WW2 where the words "Hitler had surpassed Bismarck" were repeated at least 50 times in the first few dozen pages

storm jungle
#

Lmao

copper patrol
#

well did you know

#

that

orchid lark
#

Dan Abnett is well

#

a writer.

copper patrol
#

Hitler surpassed Bismark

#

some authors just find a phrase or word

#

and massively overuse it

orchid lark
#

Again, Eisenhorn is an inquisitor of the Ordo Xenos, but he deals a lot of time with heretics and cultists

pseudo depot
copper patrol
#

like doesn't lovecraft basically have a different word he spams in every book

storm jungle
#

its very funny when you consider they are "Fuck" equilavents

#

then see half the characters in Darktide constantly swear

#

"USELESS FUCKING GUN"

green loom
pseudo depot
#

Different era of Black Library

#

Couldn’t say “fuck” in 2002

copper patrol
#

sci fi swears are great tbh

orchid lark
#

also its a battlestar galactica thing

#

frak?

copper patrol
#

Frak

orchid lark
#

yeah

copper patrol
#

"bunch of Fraking skinjobs"

green loom
#

I need to pay someone to animate Guilliman waking up

pseudo depot
#

I like how Dan later on retcons this and says something like “uhhh yeah Feth was actually some pre-imperial Tanith forest deity lol”

orchid lark
#

they are making that man write too much

#

from then till now

signal bramble
#

Don’t forget about the veteran saying “karking”

#

That’s probably my favorite.

copper patrol
#

Kark and Grut are the ones for this area

#

Fanatic calls people "Clarty head" which Ithink is a real phrase

storm jungle
#

Its funny because other swear words are in there

orchid lark
#

bombaclat

storm jungle
#

Oh shoot the bot didnt let me say them

celest dome
#

I though the Warden were immune from the bot

storm jungle
#

🅱️itch

#

there we go

copper patrol
#

b1 tch

storm jungle
#

but yeah as I was saying its funny because "fuck" isnt allowed in the books

orchid lark
#

@/wardens theyre swearing in here

storm jungle
#

AAA

celest dome
#

Accent don't work

signal bramble
#

“Throne damned” and “throne cursed” are popular in the books.

pseudo depot
#

I’m glad they’ve loosened up on allowing profanity in the books

storm jungle
#

yeah same

#

because writers should know people swear a lot

pseudo depot
#

We wouldn’t have gotten the best line in the Siege of Terra series without that happening

storm jungle
#

"Eat shit traitor."

copper patrol
#

who says thatKEKW_ogryn

pseudo depot
#

Amit

#

The original Flesh Tearer

orchid lark
#

Old Man Flesh Tearer

copper patrol
#

dang I was kinda hoping it was a primarch

pseudo depot
#

It was actually Big E to Horus

copper patrol
#

the mental image of Dorn or someone saying "eat shit"

#

is really funny to me

orchid lark
#

Dorn is legally not allowed to swear

#

he enforces that himself

copper patrol
#

that's based as hell

near wasp
#

damn

#

savage af

orchid lark
#

Blood Angel commanders were some of the of the most savage fucks during the siege of terra

green loom
#

Don't marines recycle their waste for food

#

Thus "eating shit"

copper patrol
#

whatthefuck_heresy old imperial fist lore

storm jungle
#

AUGHH-

orchid lark
#

its not Halo with their autojacking armour

pseudo depot
#

Ian Watson and Wet Leopard Growls, how many annoying 40k things can we talk about in one morning

copper patrol
#

I think my favorite line (that I know of) in 40k is still "get up" from kharn

storm jungle
#

Does Guilliman's armor jerk him off?

green loom
#

Judging by how frustrated he is in one of the books, no

storm jungle
#

Lmao i hate it

green loom
pseudo depot
#

The Armor of Cumtempt

green loom
#

Just Erebus, who's pretty formidable at that point, getting utterly bodied

orchid lark
#

I dont think Primarchs were designed for that, Erda and Emperor probably had like psychic blockades in their mind

#

sucks being primarchs, your parents just like

#

mentally neutering/block your inhibitions

storm jungle
#

Fulgrim canonically had a lot of wives

green loom
#

Weren't they political mostly

orchid lark
#

yeah

storm jungle
#

Yeah but like sex is sex my dude

#

if you had Fulgrim as a husband would you just ignore him

#

lmao

copper patrol
#

think it's like witchers

#

where they can

storm jungle
#

Yeah this.

green loom
#

Idk man I wouldn't risk it with something that big

orchid lark
#

having sex with 12ft tall people

storm jungle
#

LMAO

copper patrol
#

we are also probably thinking too deep into whether or not primarchs can fuck

orchid lark
#

I think ive seen this in furaffinity

green loom
#

The only question, do the members scale?

storm jungle
#

its just, not mentioned

#

because not important

#

lmao

orchid lark
orchid lark
green loom
#

Judging by an inquisitor's description of marines as "equine" iirc, they probably do yeah

storm jungle
copper patrol
#

huh

green loom
#

Yeah I think it's one of the Grey Knight books

storm jungle
#

honestly tho i know people into that so im not gonna judge

#

could be worse

orchid lark
#

why is it everytime someone sees a space marine without armour they immediately feel something

storm jungle
#

Because muscular man hot

#

I say this as a woman too

orchid lark
#

who was it

storm jungle
orchid lark
#

Keeler in the first horus heresy book?

copper patrol
#

on top of them being like basically demi gods to normal humans

orchid lark
#

oh his back muscles, like mountains so flat and rigid...

#

or something

vale shuttle
#

primarchs can fuck

pseudo depot
#

I thought the Space Marines didn’t have dongs

storm jungle
#

Thats never been said

#

because again, BL being BL

#

they are only told to be sterile

orchid lark
#

abstinent

summer rover
#

aside from space wolves, which have had kids for some reason.

pseudo depot
#

Ah I must’ve misunderstood then

storm jungle
#

Nah

#

that was just Lukas

green loom
storm jungle
#

and the book is very loose with its wording

copper patrol
#

and wheren't they from before he was a SM

storm jungle
vale shuttle
#

prrof primarchs can fuck:

  1. the emperor made sure there were no ||female space marines|| to prevent breeding, or whatever
  2. he knew there would only ever be male primarchs
  3. he's such a super smart and sensible rational logical reasonable guy that he wouldn't waste time doing something pointless, like removing primarchs' reproductive organs since there'd only be male ones
  4. therefore primarchs have reproductive organs that function
  5. therefore primarchs can fuck
storm jungle
#

tho like

#

if any Marines have sex it would be SW

#

they literally have humans serving them drinks as bar boys/girls

#

its literally a viking hall lol

orchid lark
#

man, Kid Lukas was a pimp...

green loom
#

Adult Lukas is also quite based

vale shuttle
storm jungle
#

Lukas the Trickster is a great book btw id recommend anyone a read of it

pseudo depot
#

Alright this begs the question, can Kor Phaeron and Luther have children since they weren’t technically full Astartes?

orchid lark
#

Blood Angels playing instruments making women gush themselves

#

like what

storm jungle
green loom
orchid lark
#

Luther rebelled because he didnt want to be abstinent

green loom
#

I figure to make them that juiced they had to be a bit more intrusive than with regular marines

storm jungle
#

Luther WANTED bitches

green loom
#

Lukas being based

pseudo depot
#

The Watchers in the Dark are actually just all of Luther’s weird bastard children

orchid lark
#

all this horus heresy shit wouldve gone away if Emperor and Erda made 20/21 12ft tall Blank super human wives for the primarchs

storm jungle
#

You can literally just take normal recruits normally and put them through the meat-grinder instead

orchid lark
#

i mean blood angels kinda do that

green loom
#

They got chewed out for it

orchid lark
#

because of their jesus quiz at the end of the selection

green loom
#

Albeit politely

#

By Guilliman

#

Gist is "Mfker why are you making these poor morons live in a rad blasted hellscape while you sit in a majestic fortress, it literally makes no difference"

vale shuttle
storm jungle
#

Yeah which is fine

#

but when you try to argue with people about it

#

"NUUU IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE"

copper patrol
#

that is kinda the point of the imperium isn't it

storm jungle
#

Yeee

copper patrol
#

shooting itself in the foot constantly

vale shuttle
#

yeah the imperium is a stupid idiot

storm jungle
#

BUT looks cool

#

so its fine

green loom
#

Fitting that many of it's fans are stupid idiots

storm jungle
#

like me

green loom
#

And me

storm jungle
copper patrol
#

I am only one of those things, you choose which

vale shuttle
vale shuttle
#

I WAS A CHAOS FAN

#

I WAS PURE

vale shuttle
#

AND THEN ||GIRLS|| MADE ME INTO A GODDAMN IMPERIAL ARMY COLLECTOR

green loom
vale shuttle
copper patrol
#

fantasy chaos > 40k chaos

#

and I will not be moved from that stance

green loom
vale shuttle
#

40k chaos should be less stupid goddamnit

orchid lark
#

i kinda like...the light elves in AOS more than the Fantasy counterparts...

pseudo depot
#

How could someone genuinely argue that there are no women on death worlds lmfao. There are some real winners in the 40k fandom

storm jungle
#

Female chaos warriors my beloved

vale shuttle
#

no no no that's not what the argument was mosin

orchid lark
#

Catachan women are tough as shit

#

imagine being in your third trimester AND wrestling the fauna on that planet

copper patrol
#

shout out to khornate daemons getting killed by catachan flora and fauna

vale shuttle
#

the argument was that in order to be a space marine you needed to be so tough and strong that you had to have like

#

you needed to be so tough and strong to survive becoming a space marine you had to be a man because they have a slight biological advantage in building muscle, basically

storm jungle
#

god

vale shuttle
#

that was the argument, which is like - patently stupid

orchid lark
storm jungle
#

Its basically just sexist lol

pseudo depot
#

Oh yeah that’s still super dumb

vale shuttle
#

the argument isn't logical

storm jungle
#

Marines are only guys because of lore. End of story.

#

its not that deep

vale shuttle
#

the actual argument is "women are weak and couldn't be space marines"

green loom
#

because of lore sales thumbsup_ogryn

orchid lark
#

there is bone size difference but muscles? man fuck that sexist

vale shuttle
orchid lark
#

there were female marines in the 80s tho

green loom
#

Yeah and they didn't sell well so they got dumped

vale shuttle
orchid lark
pseudo depot
#

The real reason there are no female Space Marines is because when they did exist in Rogue Trader days, no one bought them unfortunately

vale shuttle
#

they got dumped, and then a bunch of nerds got SUPER attached to the "no female spcae marines" lore

copper patrol
storm jungle
#

Yeah as with anything in 40k "it doesnt exist because money"

copper patrol
#

true lore

vale shuttle
#

so now if GW were to change it there's a bunch of people who would throw a shitfit over it, y'know, for some reason

storm jungle
#

Honestly thats the thing

storm jungle
#

they would

#

whine

#

then buy them

#

thats how the 40k fandom is

orchid lark
#

I feel like "why no Female Space Marines now" is like a bait now because some assholes just want to argue

green loom
#

Remember that time the community got all pissed because GW put out a post that said "Nazis bad"?

copper patrol
vale shuttle
#

||tbh i think no female space marines would be okay if it was because the emperor and imperium was a sexist society, like nearly all fascist societies are but honestly thhat's probs a controversial opinion||

orchid lark
vale shuttle
storm jungle
#

their BLM announcement

#

"Warhammer is for everyone"

copper patrol
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I am glad the worst I have had to deal with for 40k fans is people aggressively yackin off certain factions and characters

orchid lark
storm jungle
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Austrian Painter yep

pseudo depot
orchid lark
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like if GW did nothing thats just bad optics

storm jungle
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basically he got into almost no trouble because Spain's laws with fascism is really weird

celest dome
storm jungle
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GW never DIRECTLY addressed it but

orchid lark
green loom
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I mean they were a Fascist country until like what, the 80s?

storm jungle
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you could tell it was from that incident

orchid lark
storm jungle
vale shuttle
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yeah nazis aren't very clever

pseudo depot
vale shuttle
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"oohoo i'm so edgy and cool, austrian painter, i bet it'll go under everyone's noses"

orchid lark
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this is some actual 40k lore i didnt know lmao

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that arch dude i mean

orchid lark
green loom
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You didn't know Arch may or may not be a neonazi?

orchid lark
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dont even know him

copper patrol
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i don't even know who that is

vale shuttle
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arch is a real fucker

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ArchWarhammer WAS a very popular loretuber

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he is also a nazi

green loom
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I think the most recent shitshow is one of his mods being caught with CP/grooming someone

pseudo depot
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He used to be called ArchWarhammer spouting his terrible opinions until GW told him to drop the Warhammer part of his handle cause they wanted nothing to do with him

orchid lark
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the only warhammer channel i watch on youtube is Warhamme Community

storm jungle
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Long story short, Arch basically made lots of offensive content.

||Like calling Gnoblars from Fantasy the "house n-word."||

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Also deleted like 60% of the videos on his channel

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I wonder why

orchid lark
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jesus

green loom
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Hey anyone remember Commissar Gamza?

storm jungle
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OOF

orchid lark
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thank god GW cares about their optics

topaz gate
orchid lark
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who

vale shuttle
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ive not heard of this one

topaz gate
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Tell me about him

copper patrol
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that someome in here or a youtuber

topaz gate
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I love Commissars

green loom
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I've mostly repressed my memory of him but he was a character to be sure

pseudo depot
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Gamza is another Arch adjacent content creator

topaz gate
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Why would you repress the memory of a commissar

green loom
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He looked like Yandev in a commissar outfit, it was hilarious

vale shuttle
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oop

topaz gate
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Oh my god

vale shuttle
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youjust reminded me yanderedev exists

topaz gate
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Fuck

storm jungle
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I just went to check his channel

vale shuttle
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i have to go check in on yandere simulator's development

storm jungle
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Bruh these clickbait titles

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💀

topaz gate
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I think it’s actually finished

vale shuttle
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LMAO

green loom
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Oh ffs

vale shuttle
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"the lion came back and 40K got destroyed" ok buddy

green loom
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My clipboard is broken

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He was one of those goons that

storm jungle
copper patrol
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skill issued

green loom
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Was complaining about 40k "Losing it's Grimdark"

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Like the guy that made Death of Hope

vale shuttle
pseudo depot
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MajorKill is not only a racist but he’s also incredibly annoying

topaz gate
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I legit don’t care about Grimdark anymore

orchid lark
green loom
topaz gate
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That’s why I play guard and ultramarines

green loom
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OH FFS

copper patrol
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skill issued