so they temper their red thirst from eating nids and that style of bullshit
#40k-lore-chat
rose thorn
vale shuttle
damn that's a cool idea
rose thorn
they are so far gone in their vengence that they bascially loop over
into basically being marine nids
in personality
vale shuttle
they'd definitely be earmarked as heretics...? maybe?
rose thorn
Eh,
vale shuttle
hmmmm wait what happens when they send geneseed to mars
rose thorn
Oh no they aren actually infected or anything
rose thorn
they are normal ass BA just instead of the visions of horus they relive the devastation of Baal
rose thorn
or are they genetically fine just-
they probably would either be a fleet based chapter, or draw from the survivors of tyranid attacks
vale shuttle
so they're a bunch of tyranid cosplayers who fucking hate the tyranids?
rose thorn
yeA
vale shuttle
i assume they love biological warfare? they love their chemicals and gasses and stuff? like the death guard except loyalist?
are these the space locusts? should i be afraid of them flyting around and blasting me with acidic goo?
rose thorn
nah they wont be that freaky, they will hunt and consuem waht ever they kill, wear pieces of nids as trophies, and sometimes do schinanniagns with nid corpses
for my chapter master i wanna get a tyranid claw and strap it to the power fist
and call it "embrace of the Lictor King' or something dumb like that
vale shuttle
i mean that dumb name is 100% the kind of stuff relics are named in 40k
||i need a better name for my sororitas canoness superior's weapon. i just called it "The Flamebound Blade"||
vale shuttle
unfortunaetly i dont know cause i havent read it
rose thorn
ah
oH thT happend pre primaris,
uhh, these dudes became primaris in hopes that it would cure them of their animalistic red thirst
but whoopsy daisy that just made things worse
or
didnt change anything
mwah perfect gw tier lore
vale shuttle
mwah perfect gw tier lore
please don't insult yourself like that, i don't like seeing my friends and acquaintances engaging in self-deprecating humour
storm jungle
is The devastation of baal book good?
Having read it id say its okay.
Like its nothing amazing but its a good "war piece" for the entire campaign.
Tho it has a hilarious subplot
where uh
Mephiston gets a vision that Ka'band the bloodthirster is gonna do something bad
so he gets the BRIGHT idea to gather all the librarians of the chapter in a cave underneath the monastery
and as he is using them to astral project himself, the vision gets broken and causes a cave-in
and they all get trapped under there for the entire battle lmao
rose thorn
Mephiston gets a vision that Ka'band the bloodthirster is gonna do something bad
oh hey i know Ka'band! he got shoved in AOS really awkwardly and is just kidna there
storm jungle
as are most daemon characters for the most part
but yeah its a good book id say give it a read
rose thorn
ballin tahnk you Dilara :>
storm jungle
Anytime
rose thorn
do i need to read anything before hand?
rose thorn
okay my only BA knowledge is from podcasts
storm jungle
Yeah you wont miss much, basically just know who Mephiston and Dante are and you will be fine.
rose thorn
and since this is supposed to be the big thing myc hapter's lore comes from
rose thorn
Yeah you wont miss much, basically just know who Mephiston and Dante are and you...
Mephiston is the guy who executes Death company
and Dante is the depressed golden boy?
vale shuttle
mephiston is the super-uber-mega-psyker and dante is the real old boy who just wants to die cause he's been around for like one and a half thousand years
storm jungle
^
rose thorn
ohhhh okay
vale shuttle
dante is chapter master of the blood angels
rose thorn
I know this is stupid, but omg i want it so bad
rose thorn
OHHH okAY
storm jungle
Yeah like its a really fucking goofy idea and totally fits 40k but its not a real thing.
BUT it is by a GW artist
its just concept art
rose thorn
weird and wanna confirm, there was zero consequences for Baal becoming bug food?
it seems like the ultra marines were more offended then the BA lmao
storm jungle
Honestly yeah literally nothing happened
Basically just handwavy "Blood angels and their successors had a lot of losses"
"Anyway primaris reinforcements"
rose thorn
lmao
gothca
,,,oh god to normal space marines get PTSD?
i know CSM have to pay the chaos tax and can get shingles for all i know
storm jungle
,,,oh god to normal space marines get PTSD?
They can, at least somewhat; many of the survivors of the Dropsite Massacre ended up with pretty significant psychological trauma that would be the closest thing to PTSD for Astartes. They're still able to compartmentalize it after the fact when they have to actually do their jobs, but they still end up suffering from it during their downtime.
rose thorn
They can, at least somewhat; many of the survivors of the Dropsite Massacre ende...
okay sick
storm jungle
Theres also this from Plague War:
‘They have breached the hull. They are here.’
They were Sicarius’ last words. After he had spoken those two, short sentences, his world had changed, and he had changed with it. He was no longer who he had been. He wore the same face, and carried the same name, but he was a different man.
He was a man who still heard the screams.
It did not used to be that way. His had always been a world of screams. Screeching xenos, wailing heretics, shrieking monsters to defy the imagination of mankind in the breadth of their horror and the heights of their malice. Dead or dying at his will, at his order, by his hand. Ruptured into extinction by the application of bolt, boot and sword. Deaths, endless and innumerable deaths, they soaked his soul through and through in blood and pain.
Sicarius never remembered the screams of those who died before the rift. He was righteous in their making. They did not trouble him. Those deaths were just.
But the screams of his men – those he could not forget, and they troubled him deeply.
Bitter saliva leaked from his Betcher’s Gland. He swallowed the slow issue of his own poisons. The screams rang in his head. The high screaming of Space Marines in the red claws of agony. He expected normal men without the benefits of Adeptus Astartes gifts to shrill so keenly when faced with death, but his brothers?
rose thorn
so a chapter of BA with Baal PTSD would work
storm jungle
The PTSD would have to be something very horrific
or just dastardly for a space marine
its the same as how the Black Rage is literally just über-psychic trauma from Horus bodying their gene-dad
rose thorn
I was thinking they would just break the fuck down into being primal as fuck in intense battle
rose thorn
its the same as how the Black Rage is literally just über-psychic trauma from Ho...
YEA my idea was the balck rage would make these guys relive Baal
well, hoprefully DoB was as intense as im thnking
pulls up wiki
okay yeah it gets fucked
arctic talon
oh hey i know Ka'band! he got shoved in AOS really awkwardly and is just kidna t...
Did he not betray Khorne in AoS lol
bcs he does that in 40k and fantasy
storm jungle
Nah the khorne betrayal happens in fantasy
so it carries over into AOS since its the same character lmao
arctic talon
oh true
storm jungle
Yeee
storm jungle
you can tell because in the fantasy wiki they have A LOT of lore
arctic talon
bar like
storm jungle
then you go to their 40k wiki page and its like nothing lmao
arctic talon
1 or 2 lol
rose thorn
storm jungle
There he is
arctic talon
just a reminder this guy can solo 99% of people in 40k
storm jungle
WAIT
rose thorn
he does fuck all lol
arctic talon
Kroak my beloved
storm jungle
I DIDNT KNOW KA'BANDHA WAS IN FANTASY
arctic talon
wait really
rose thorn
YEAH
arctic talon
lmao
rose thorn
HE DOES NOTHING
storm jungle
lmao wait
they added him
in the fucking
End Times books
okay yeah that makes sense
storm jungle
💀
But yeah i think almost all the O.G Daemon characters came from fantasy
some didnt really carry over
like N'kari in fantasy is a BIG deal
in 40k he literally does nothing
minus like
banging fulgrim
in 1 book
rose thorn
he has AOS rules. but i think its legends
storm jungle
Yeah deffo
rose thorn
oh you play a blood thirster
rose thorn
he's got a sick ass mini
IMagine running that in AOS adn trying to explain the space marine corspes
arctic talon
lol
my favorite part of endtimes was Kroak not dying
because he decided dying was cringe
again
storm jungle
Kroak was just based like that
rose thorn
HES A 40K CHARACTER THO
arctic talon
rose thorn
HE DOES MORE IN 40k
arctic talon
there's a lot of named characters in 40k
that don't have rules
especially for chaos
rose thorn
BUT HE HAS A MODEL
arctic talon
Its for Daemons of the ruinstorm
you can run it as a generic Bloodthirster
is Forgeworlds answer
they get pissy whenver GW makes rules for something
they make
its really weird
rose thorn
forgeworld doesn't really make 40k rules anymore
fair
arctic talon
honestly
vale shuttle
forgeworld begrudingly make rules for some of the stuff that can be used in 40k
arctic talon
FW's rules are a blight on 40k lol
rose thorn
forge world is jsut for set pieces really
vale shuttle
like my friend fought my brother with a leviathan dread just last thursday
and that's a forge world 30k thingy and not a mainline 40k
arctic talon
Double volkite contemptor dreads 💀
vale shuttle
Double volkite contemptor dreads 💀
||look man death guard need some shooting it's not my fault that i wanted it||
rose thorn
i have afeeling GW is gonna dos omething dumb, but they didnt do nfts
vale shuttle
hwo do you think IRL AI will effect warhammer
not very mucch probably
arctic talon
||look man death guard need some shooting it's not my fault that i wanted it||
man its a real shame they were fine in CSM but batshit broken in LSM
while CSM had really funny melee contemptors
and LSM had dogshit melee contemptors
rose thorn
not very mucch probably
I know they have a points calculator for making points costs
arctic talon
I doubt GW will use AI to determin points lol
as strange as their balance decisions are
vale shuttle
i think people really overestimate how effective modern AI is
arctic talon
that would be a true clusterfuck
arctic talon
i think people really overestimate how effective modern AI is
yeah this
rose thorn
'the new necron book will be written by an AI! for emersion'
arctic talon
it just regurgitates things it scrapes off the internet
vale shuttle
chatGPT is a wonder, a true marvel, but it's also just like eveyr other AI in that it is very very very good at its one task
arctic talon
'the new necron book will be written by an AI! for emersion'
should be a tau book
written from the perspective of a tau drone
crisp heath
Honestly, if I was going to make a BA successor that was so bodied by the Tyranids at Baal that it overwrote the death of their primarch when the Black Rage comes, I'd do it as their flagship being knocked from orbit, the majority of them being slaughtered on the surface as nids swarmed the ship, and the few surivivors locked in a room for the entirety of the battle as a single lictor grabs them one by one at random intervals and they have to spend hours listening to their brother being eaten just outside of the chance to help or escape. The Chapter Master would probably be first to go, maybe all the survivors are scouts?
Just an idea
vale shuttle
deep blue can beat you every single time at chess but deep blue can't help you design a spreadsheet
chatGPT can output a lot of human-sounding text but it can't play chess
rose thorn
trying to figure out how stratgems work
crisp heath
Listen if a human can solve a pokemon game, then an AI can get good at 40k
vale shuttle
pokemon games are basically pure math aren't they?
rose thorn
Honestly, if I was going to make a BA successor that was so bodied by the Tyrani...
maybe they are a msall successor chapter thats like ' dont worry guys we can do this! we are the imperiums finest!'
going in to help during Baal
crisp heath
pokemon games are basically pure math aren't they?
Sort of, there's a lot of rng in them
Just watch, it's insane
rose thorn
and being made into afucking space marine pretzel
crisp heath
maybe they are a msall successor chapter thats like ' dont worry guys we can do ...
I just love the idea of a situation so fucked that a whole chapter of Space Marines in one place are totally helpless and piss themselves as they're nearly totally wiped out
rose thorn
they go from happy go luckyy mairnes to insane tyranid hunters
queen laurel
I wonder how volatile ork ai will be if they make one
crisp heath
Or the opposite: they refuse to ever fight tyranids, but are hardened enough to stare chaos in the face without batting an eye
rose thorn
theres a very specific stupid build iw anna do for a Lieutenant in Reiver armour where you just get a 6 inch -3 leader ship -1 Combat Attrition that would be funny
just wear a genestealer skull on their face
my sorry
-4
not 3
-2 from the model, -1 from a warlord trait, -1 from that one chapter tactic
and + 3 inch from THE VOX ESPIRITUM to auras
its terrible, but i love it
green loom
so a chapter of BA with Baal PTSD would work
Idk how many BA there'd be left to make a chapter of, unless it's an existing chapter that got horrific losses
The BA themselves have been nearly wiped out some 3 times just during Dante's lifetime
green loom
Did he not betray Khorne in AoS lol
That's Skarbrand
undone zodiac
Blood angel lore is to get wiped our every now and then
green loom
Basically
odd palm
Hmm, BAs do that too?
Very good
undone zodiac
Meanwhile ultrasmurf characters
crimson kayak
IMagine running that in AOS adn trying to explain the space marine corspes
Meanwhile belakor model with a full space marine dead in the ground
crimson kayak
hwo do you think IRL AI will effect warhammer
It will not because plastic mini's don't have pc's
celest dome
Meanwhile belakor model with a full space marine dead in the ground
Doesn't the kit let you use either a SM or a Stormcast ?
crimson kayak
Doesn't the kit let you use either a SM or a Stormcast ?
I didn't see a stormcast in mine
I should check in the leftover pile
Ok, it does have a fantasy model
But it's a chaos warrior for some reason
Lol
celest dome
Dunno why I though it was a Stormcast
arctic talon
But it's a chaos warrior for some reason
prolly bcs the chaos warrior was getting too upity lol
celest dome
But why a Chaos Warrior and a Loyalist SM ?
crimson kayak
Oh forgot that stormcast just go /tpbase whenever they die
arctic talon
more like they fucking explode lmao
green loom
Theres also this from Plague War:
> ‘They have breached the hull. They are here...
But Dilara! Cato Sicarius is bad! TTS told me so!
crimson kayak
<@&735928989146939404>
coarse pumice
the regular soldier dudes for some reason remind me of 1st edition
coarse pumice
the agents of the imperium one
green loom
Ye
It has Navy Breachers which are the guys with the coats
And Rogue Trader kill team
rose thorn
Meanwhile belakor model with a full space marine dead in the ground
You can change it for a chaos warrior
Or neither
crimson kayak
"yeah slap two killteams in a box and call it a day"
rose thorn
Every*
crimson kayak
"yeah slap two killteams in a box and call it a day"
But hey, I noticed a free eversor
crimson kayak
They do indeed
Now if only they had something other than a shotgun
Also it's two full killteam+an eversor for less than buying them separate
vale shuttle
...are they planning on making a full "Agents of the Imperium" army?
or is this just them testing the waters
chilly creek
I’m stupid but aren’t thsoe exact models for LoV in like, ever LoV box set?
The LoV list is very small
crimson kayak
or is this just them testing the waters
Probably reboxing stuff and trying to tie killteam models into standard play
vale shuttle
hmmm
crimson kayak
As the February post where they announced the AotI rules would come out they are seen alongside both marines and ogryins
vale shuttle
i missed that post
rose thorn
The LoV list is very small
I would have thought they would wait until the LoV kt drops
vale shuttle
i wonder if they're trying to expand the Agents for more soup lists?
crimson kayak
vale shuttle
ehhh. seems unlikely
crimson kayak
(btw who the fuck are the chapter in that image?)
chilly creek
I would have thought they would wait until the LoV kt drops
That isn't going to add new units to the main list tho, just some more poses/variety to your base troops
green loom
If you mean this those are Black Templars
crimson kayak
Never seen them with the red and blue details
coarse pumice
Shuriken Catapult
green loom
Yeah that's just Draxus
She was leading the charge to the Pariah nexus and then just
Sort of disappeared
signal bramble
...are they planning on making a full "Agents of the Imperium" army?
It’s probably for their new boarding patrol format. However, those are playable in kill team also.
I don’t remember the meta but I think the star striders are pretty good right now.
coarse pumice
What is this new boarding game?
combined with the recent releases, are they kind of sidebooting Rogue Trader?
or event
signal bramble
What is this new boarding game?
40k rules on a kill team board with a few restrictions.
green loom
Still holding out hope for Primaris Sternguard
coarse pumice
I wonder if it's the combination of that size force, plus the releases and teams that make me think of Rogue Trader
maybe I should buy a new Mk6 kit 
crystal forum
i've never seen a bayonet on a bolter before
in fact wouldn't a bayonet just make the bolter worse at close quarters
coarse pumice
shadow plover
i've never seen a bayonet on a bolter before
heresy has rules for them, 40k doesn't sadly
coarse pumice
you could put bayonets on the first space marine plastic box
i don't think they did anything other than your model having counted as having a hand to hand weapon
models that didn't suffered a penalty for fighting in hand to hand
though most models had one or a pistol (which also counted in hand to hand)
so it was aesthetic in practice
crimson kayak
Btw @rose thorn the just revealed phobos lieutenant model has tyranid armour trophies
coarse pumice
i think so though I don't know if they did anything (maybe they counted as a chainsword?)
I have to say, I don't like the new profiles
moving SW and S off model profiles onto weaopns
rose thorn
Btw <@407994636167282701> the just revealed phobos lieutenant model has tyranid ...
OH YEA I saw I love it
shadow plover
I kinda like it, now you don't have to spell out if the weapon hits worse or better or if it has extra attacks but they're just there baked in
vale shuttle
GW: reveals new boarding patrols with no marines at all
GW: ...reveals new primaris lieutenant
crimson kayak
Now if only the boarding patrols actually had new models
Because as they stand they are just value boxes for now
vale shuttle
hey maybe next week they'll reveal some new tyranid models
vale shuttle
what equal attention model do you think they'll reveal for marines?
shadow plover
maybe the gravis apothecary?
vale shuttle
good pick. if i remember this conversation next week ill be sure to check if you were right
shadow plover
Right-o 😄
crimson kayak
what equal attention model do you think they'll reveal for marines?
Primaris lieutenant, but in a different pose and with another helmet
vale shuttle
Codex: Primaris Lieutenants coming soon
storm jungle
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/264016773899223043/1092414819770056704/...
Oh boy
back to the normal schedule
green loom
Polish and Finnish forces got revealed for HLL at the same time so rn can't be bothered by Primaris 
celest dome
HHL ?
green loom
Hell Let Loose, funny ww2 game
versed ledge
At least the marine has his molle webbing and hip pouches on, which oddly enough get rarely translated in the games
arctic talon
Funnily enough there’s 17 primaris lt. Minis in total(if we count the 2 dead ones and the anniversary mini)
I’d question why GW makes that many
versed ledge
Also is he using a Tyranid plate as a pauldron?
arctic talon
But meh
arctic talon
Also is he using a Tyranid plate as a pauldron?
Yeah
He’s got a genestealer claw as a knife on his belt as well
Feels like a reimagining of the tyranic war veterans to me
versed ledge
Seems rather odd to see a space marine do that...let alone an ultramarine
summer rover
the pauldron's still there, they just slapped it on top. more likely as camo than armor
also why does that dude need three knives
storm jungle
because it looks cool
arctic talon
also why does that dude need three knives
Why not
Tbh
Nid plating is just as tough as power armor sometimes
And even tougher for the big ones
green loom
Seems rather odd to see a space marine do that...let alone an ultramarine
Ultras aren't as vanilla as the fandom would have you believe
arctic talon
But memes
If we want true vanilla ice cream something like the Hammers of Dorn
Would fit
storm jungle
Yeah honestly hot take
The Imperial Fists are one of the most generic space marines out there lmao
queen laurel
hes also got strawberry jam stuck on his knife
I would definitely say it would look a lot better if it was red, like actual blood
storm jungle
Oh man
you should see that one grey knight
Not blood in this case but DAMN
look at all that jam
queen laurel
At least you can give this thing a wacky reason like, it's hell magic so don't worry
green loom
The Imperial Fists are one of the most generic space marines out there lmao
Trust, Fists are so cool, they have like this, this flying fortress thing above Terra
And they're, uh, they're in Yellow!
And they uh, they're called the Fists and are like, kinda knightly!
They have one actual character and his entire personality is getting everyone in his company killed(Multiple times) and being the only survivor
plush mason
he unironically is one of the best early units in that chaos gate game
storm jungle
They have one actual character and his entire personality is getting everyone in...
The only thing going for them is:
- "Haha TTS dorn funny because he talk simple"
- "Haha Iron Warriors are such losers"
- "Haha fortify"
queen laurel
Do you guys think i can make a very volatile weapon in warhammer 40k by combining ork waagh magic and warp magic together?
Like use it to power an artificial construct or something
green loom
Doesn't adding Ork waaagh magic to something make it volatile by default?
queen laurel
Doesn't adding Ork waaagh magic to something make it volatile by default?
Yes, but i want it to be even more volatile
So why not
summer rover
imena, considering the WAAGHH!! doesn't normally interact with the warp at alli can't imagine forcing the two together would be anything but less table than either
coarse pumice
The Imperial Fists are one of the most generic space marines out there lmao
I think this is to their favour, as one has to reasonably generic without the baggage of being ultramarines, though I think Crimson Fists being a successor chapter does this quite well too, and both still have a nice history to them
think of it this way: in the entire sweetshop of space marine flavours, sometimes you want vanilla (yellow)
summer rover
the ultramarine's baggage IS they're just generic.
coarse pumice
the issue with that is they have the limelight (and a bunch of special characters because of it), and the codex was from their legion so they're like the 'leaders' - they lose a certain point of genericism (of just taking an 'average' marine chapter picking them out of the pack) because of this
summer rover
the fists were the poster boys a few editions ago for a change, and it really highlighted that they're both just generic and rely on marketing armor to pretend they're interesting.
zenith sinew
They'd be better if the designers leaned more into the space Roman aesthetic
odd palm
Fists and Ultras
Do be just Prussia and Rome respectively
odd palm
Not in their aesthetic that is true
storm jungle
Yeee
odd palm
Their aesthetic is just stock standard, like the raven guard and…..iron warriors
arctic talon
Raven guard at least have the weird feather and bird skull thing going on
summer rover
They'd be better if the designers leaned more into the space Roman aesthetic
every time they do it looks dumb, space-romans just isn't compatible with the established space marine design. i've seen it done a bunch and it just always looks dorky.
zenith sinew
opinion statement
coarse pumice
odd palm
Raven guard at least have the weird feather and bird skull thing going on
I mean….technically but not really
rose thorn
I love the fact that he’s not really that Important to the GK, he’s just a badass with a sword
And he’s such a badass with a sword
That he’s a character
versed ledge
Weird to see space marines conducting "peace keeping" operations.
Then again that art screams early 80s
versed ledge
Nice
storm jungle
Weird to see space marines conducting "peace keeping" operations.
The marines back then were basically space cops.
Lots of busting down areas and arresting or killing sci-fi punks
versed ledge
From space cops to space demi-gods, things sure have changed
arctic talon
Tbh space marines became human only in 2e
Then superhumans in 3e
Pretty funny that 3e and 2e are the origin point for a lot of modern 40k stuff
Including the Land Raider
And Arkhan Land
desert dust
In rouge trader the ultra marine chef librarian was a half elder
Illiyan Nastase
I hear he is current in a museum somewhere
storm jungle
I hear he is current in a museum somewhere
He was reintroduced into the lore so no.
Hes just a normal eldar now 
queen laurel
In rouge trader the ultra marine chef librarian was a half elder
Alright genetically speaking, how fucked is this guy
desert dust
Idk depends if he meets Vulkun
green loom
lol
summer rover
i guess the primogind organs passed down gullible ragamuffin's taste in willowy point-eared ladies along with the other geneseed....
green loom
queen laurel
i guess the primogind organs passed down gullible ragamuffin's taste in willowy ...
WOT'Z YOU'Z RAMBLING ON ABOUT
summer rover
WOT'Z YOU'Z RAMBLING ON ABOUT
I'z said da blue beaky boys gots an itch for then skinny knife-ear gits!
storm jungle
Orks in 40k have sharp ears too
i didnt know Guilliman swinged that way
but those mushrooms are too attractive i guess
queen laurel
Orks in 40k have sharp ears too
Yeah but it's not like skyrim
Skyrim orcs are still elves
queen laurel
the 40k orks literally have sharp ears
Yes but we don't talk about it because knife ears are better on orks
storm jungle
Yes but we don't talk about it because knife ears are better on orks
I dont know chief both look hot to me
summer rover
i like it better when they hire artists that don't dislocate the ork's jawbones
storm jungle
the dislocation is half the fun
queen laurel
I dont know chief both look hot to me
If you're going to blame them by their ears shape ask the old ones
They seem to have a fetish for that if both race they created has pointy ears
summer rover
man, nothin' funnier to see than a frog gif posted in responce to the old ones.
queen laurel
they are literally frogs, its not my fault
Yeah can't blame you
green loom
Monstrous Orks are cool
rose thorn
Damn I love this so much. It’s the exact vibe I love ‘probably not mentally well. But practical’
A blue boy marine who went a little coo coo for Tyranids
crisp heath
You can put an ork in a dress, it is always morally correct
vale shuttle
fem-presenting orks because they got wrecked by sororitas once and they were like "damn these warrior-women are truly pwoerful we should copy them"
crisp heath
Da femboyz
vale shuttle
would the orks craft boob-plate armour to emulate the sisters or would their biology react to their desires due to their psychic-ness and grow ork tiddies?
they already have nipples so they're like halfway there already
crisp heath
It has to be boobplate
They don't even know humans have meat under there, they just think female armor has hollow spheres for an unfathomable reason (it must be where they get their power from)
vale shuttle
so basically orks think booba gives power?
crisp heath
Spheres of power
open pumice
honestly
cheese hits different in a cube
celest dome
Love cheese
But true, shapes have different uses and cubes are for eating as is.
Maybe with some spices but not necessarily
vale shuttle
<@&735928989146939404>
odd tulip
Well that was awful
vale shuttle
thank you
odd tulip
thanks for letting me know
queen laurel
thanks for letting me know
Thank you for your service
open pumice
wha habben
open pumice
<@&735928989146939404>
who got banned at the speed of light
& more importantly
what for
queen laurel
what for
For posting something that they shouldn't have posted here
I'm not going to tell you what it was to help your sanity
green loom
My sanity is long gone, what was it
crisp heath
Furry dick
Seriously y'all are acting like he posted gore or something, it was literally just a bad drawing of a fox-man's weewee
(don't get me wrong it's good he was banned but it's not like something unspeakable happened)
summer rover
truly, the furry is the true enemy of the imperium.
vale shuttle
yeah it's literally just some medioccre furry porn it's not that interesting
queen laurel
truly, the furry is the true enemy of the imperium.
Is that why Felinids should be exterminated because i agree
echo vault
Are grav weapons area of effect weapons? I wanna draw the effects of someone being direct hit in the head with a grav gun beam and their head goes 270 degrees up and behind the person's back like someone snapped their spine backwards
odd palm
I believe they're direct target and not area of effect. Lemme double check what the munitorum volume 1 says
echo vault
That might be what I'm wanting not area of effect just like one guys spine looking like the waluigi symbol
odd palm
It doesn't mention or give off an area of effect like ability. Just that the beam targets individuals be it; astartes, tanks or a bunker
It has a rather detailed example of the effect upon a space marine
The death of an infantryman killed by a grav-gun is equally graphic and a degree more disturbing. At first, the gravity will push the victim’s armour in upon him, along with his weapon, wargear and any other kit he carries, crushing his flesh and forcing blood from eyes, ears and nose. Then, as the field strengthens, the victim’s own muscles will turn their mass against him, snapping bones and pulverising organs. Finally, the target will implode with a wet crimson splat, only falling into a puddle of gore when the field, its terrible work done, disperses.
Pg 195
....a battle-brother needs to know where to hit the building for the maximum effect, the grav-gun still only capable of generating a small-localised gravimetric phenomenon at the point of impact.
coarse pumice
Craftworlds are entirely self sufficient space faring worlds with access to warpgates to teleport around the galaxy. The static territories they protect though are the maiden worlds, bountiful garden planets tended by their country-mouse brethren, the exodites.
The CWE defend them viciously, destroying any imperial or ork or whatnot threats that get close.
They might say "well they'll be staging worlds for rebooting the old Empire", but y'know the CWE's just stay on their craftworlds. So why?
'Cause they produce meat, big juicy pieces of gigantosaurus meat. That's the only thing Craftworlders get from the exodites. They don't need raw materials, they don't recruit the natives, they don't build vacation homes, they get meat. This is the only thing ever mentioned in canon fluff.
Eating steaks is the primary motivation for the CWE to fight. If they ran away and abandoned the exodites, they wouldn't have any steaks and would be eating cup noodles for the rest of eternity.
So remember, the next time an ork waaagh is manipulated to ravage the Imperium rather than get to an exodite ranch world, those 100 billion guardsmen died so Eldrad could have his steak dinner.
hardy root
I dunno much about the weapon distribution among the imperium but what would the odds be that some rejects get melta pistols at some point? You know gotta complete the holy trinity
celest dome
Not that weird, we already have access to Plasma gun, and Melta were leaked.
And they are currently produced by the Imperium
green loom
Aren't inferno pistols mega rare
celest dome
Inferno Pistols are master crafted iirc, so sorta
green loom
Meltas I get, but ye those are specifically rare
coarse pumice
Probably are kind of impractical too
hardy root
Not that weird, we already have access to Plasma gun, and Melta were leaked.
And...
ah okay i dont look at leaks since i sstill enjoy the surprise factor
queen laurel
Not that weird, we already have access to Plasma gun, and Melta were leaked.
And...
And hey if we have access to power swords, a melta doesn't seem that outrageous
celest dome
Meltas I get, but ye those are specifically rare
iirc there are Melta Pistol in Necromunda, and they are considered a different class than the Inferno Pistols
coarse pumice
eldar fusion pistols too
celest dome
Sure, but those would probably be harder to find than Makeshift Metla weapon made by Imperial Denizen
queen laurel
If only we can communicate to the orangutan mechanicus monkeys to make us more
I forgot what they were called
crimson kayak
inferno pistols are 100 times more rare and powerful than standard melta tech
and meltaguns in general can take pretty much any shape
undone zodiac
Hand meltas are quite rarely appearing
crimson kayak
Hand meltas are quite rarely appearing
because basically only blood angels use it and lore-wise they get the upgraded melta's already (inferno)
undone zodiac
Dont chaos raptors also get them
celest dome
I forgot what they were called
Digi weapons ?
coarse pumice
kerillian, fat saltsyre
queen laurel
Digi weapons ?
The orangutans that are very good with technologies
coarse pumice
jokaero
crimson kayak
Digi weapons ?
digi weapons aren't the small frieza style finger-beam of death?
crimson kayak
kerillian, fat saltsyre
the cooler looking elucidian startstriders
vale shuttle
Jokaero are extremely good at making all forms of high technology
celest dome
The orangutans that are very good with technologies
Jokaero
queen laurel
Jokaero are extremely good at making all forms of high technology
That's what i'm saying if we can communicate with them we can definitely make better stuff
A lot of them tend to do what the f*** they want
vale shuttle
They don't want to
why would they ever want to work with the Imperium?
if the Imperium thought they were sapient they'd be exterminated or enslaved
but they're assumed not to be so they don't get attacked
queen laurel
I mean like train them to be companions
You know value them more over the actual people
Treat them better than we treat the citizens in the world
celest dome
"actual people" aren't even valued
vale shuttle
I doubt you could train them to be companions, Jokaero are able to go and do as they please since they can make all sorts of wild shit
In fact I'd hazard a guess that they are intelligent, just that they don't communicate with humans because what would they even say?
queen laurel
I doubt you could train them to be companions, Jokaero are able to go and do as ...
Yes they're practically primate MekBoyz
queen laurel
In fact I'd hazard a guess that they are intelligent, just that they don't commu...
Do you think the imperium will listen to them?
crimson kayak
jokaero literally have ships
vale shuttle
of course I don' think the Imperium would listen to them
crimson kayak
they even set up trade in the blackstone fortress from the game
celest dome
Jokaero are most likely much smarter than any human around
vale shuttle
Jokaero would say something like "I'll work with you for this this and this" and then the Imperial would say "FOUL HERETICAL XENO"
queen laurel
Jokaero would say something like "I'll work with you for this this and this" and...
That's the problem with imperium they are rather very very stupid
They will not take the benefits if it goes against their beliefs
They do not see the point
crimson kayak
(btw the mechanicus rejecting progress in the end revealed itself useful considering that vashtoor is powered by progress)
vale shuttle
right. i don't think the imperials could easily train or communicate with the jokaero because the jokaero are too smart, too capable, and too savvy to be manipulated
queen laurel
(btw the mechanicus rejecting progress in the end revealed itself useful conside...
I swear to god the emperor fucked up with this one
vale shuttle
also i really hope you're joking monsi because...
the benefits of high technolgoy definitely outstrip minorly conveniencing a minor chaos god
queen laurel
the benefits of high technolgoy definitely outstrip minorly conveniencing a mino...
Agreed on this one
You will need progress no matter where you are
or what you are
crimson kayak
depends how much he really benefits from it, wich we don't technically know
vale shuttle
vashtorr wouldn't even get that much strength cause he's had necron biotransference, the DAoT, and the current tau expansion and he's still a minor chaos god
oh also the aeldari empire which was also highly advanced
queen laurel
vashtorr wouldn't even get that much strength cause he's had necron biotransfer...
So he's kind of like hashut from warhammer fantasy?
vale shuttle
vashtorr's domain is small enough that he'll always be a small fish in a big pond.
crimson kayak
we also don't know when vashtoor actually "spawned"
vale shuttle
unfortunately i don't know enough about hashut to comment :(
vale shuttle
we also don't know when vashtoor actually "spawned"
due to the wacky nature of time in the warp he can retroactivelyt gain power. like slaanesh being both born from the aeldari empire and also influencing her own birth in a weird way where she's both her mother-father and also child it's weird man
green loom
Hashut is Vashtorr but cooler
crimson kayak
in the end, it can all be summed up to "warp fuckery, let's move on"
queen laurel
unfortunately i don't know enough about hashut to comment :(
It's the god of the chaos dwarfs
A minor god really
Hashut, called the "Father of Darkness," is the god of fire, greed and tyranny
green loom
Choking industry, profit and progress at any cost
celest dome
Birth might just be a Material way of saying revelation or ascendency, like they aren't truly alive and such
queen laurel
Choking industry, profit and progress at any cost
And with the help of sla- I mean labourers
The chaos dwarfs are also very successful
green loom
And with the help of sla- I mean labourers
People latch on to that and it's actually so stupid
The degeneracy of Grimdank once again makes the world dumber
celest dome
Hashut is the evil of the 1st Industrial Revolution
Great Horned Rat is that of the 2nd
Vashtor is that of the 3rd
vale shuttle
vashtorr is a small enough deal that i feel very confident in saying that no matter how far you advance, he should never be a problem for you (assuming you're doing sensible chaos protection techniques in the first place)
queen laurel
The degeneracy of Grimdank once again makes the world dumber
Yeah they are practically slaves what's the point of calling them laborers
green loom
Yeah they are practically slaves what's the point of calling them laborers
More marketable and not incorrect
queen laurel
More marketable and not incorrect
Our modern-day world is very aggressive
Gotta admit
green loom
The Druchii use slaves for everything, the Dawi Zharr only care about raw labour
queen laurel
The Druchii use slaves for everything, the Dawi Zharr only care about raw labour
Yes, the chaos dwarf is use them for practicality while the dark elves
Well
If you know the lore i'm sure you know where this is going
green loom
Basically it's semantics and it's stupid to be angry about it
queen laurel
Basically it's semantics and it's stupid to be angry about it
Yes, it's a franchise known for it's unbelievably unforgiving brutality
green loom
But you know, Warhammer fans and needless bitching go hand in hand
queen laurel
That's like sugar coating shit
It's still shit no matter how much you sprinkle it with sugar
queen laurel
But you know, Warhammer fans and needless bitching go hand in hand
Some complains are very understandable but some are
Jesus christ
undone zodiac
I want lore of vashter trying to undo grey knight weapons and fail
crimson kayak
also let's remember that vashtoor is pulling all this shit out of literal boredom
green loom
celest dome
Could probably have it pinned here tbh
vale shuttle
40k fans read 40k books as if they're studying for a history exam
it reminds me of the people whining about how in lords of silence there's an exercept about an agri-world and it says "all agri-worlds are like this" and instead of understanding this as like, an emotional metaphor used to highlight the crushing machinery of the imperium they instead take this to be gospel on how the imperium works and then they go "but that's not true look at all these exerccpts" like
c'mon guys haven't you read fiction before?
you don't see these people complaining about master of mankind where the emperor enters the warp and it goes "and the sun rose in a sunless realm"
green loom
Would a God Empress be cooler than the God Emperor
vale shuttle
yes
vale shuttle
||tread on my human rights harder mommy-empress||
green loom
Repost
vale shuttle
look apparently the thing that got me to play imperium was girls so if the god-emperor was the god-empress then maybe i'd be one of those horrible imperiumposters
coarse pumice
right. i don't think the imperials could easily train or communicate with the jo...
iirc it's not they're too smart/capable/savvy, but it's that they seem to actually be like wild animals apart from their ability for engineering and problem solving
celest dome
look apparently the thing that got me to play imperium was girls so if the god-e...
Sister fan ?
coarse pumice
they have no culture, language or motivation other than survival
vale shuttle
yep
celest dome
nice
vale shuttle
Sister fan ?
literally painting a paragon warsuit rn
green loom
I love Paragons
The unification mod for dawn of war gives them badly modeled saggy boobs for some reason though, very cursed
vale shuttle
probably because it was made by a sweaty nerd
celest dome
Love the Paragon, though if I made a Sister force I would probably make it Admech Themed
green loom
probably because it was made by a sweaty nerd
True!
celest dome
I disliked the legs, till I remembered that it's the Imperium and they'd probably cut the legs and graft the sister in it or something
vale shuttle
nah pretty sure the warsuits are mechs they can climb into
celest dome
Sure, but then I dislike the legs
So I ignore that and replace it with Grafted legs in my mind
vale shuttle
based and headcanonpilled
coarse pumice
celest dome
Helmgarth Lady ?
coarse pumice
Lady Haera, 13th Daughter of Lord Helmawr
celest dome
Right, Helmgarth is in fantasy
crimson kayak
btw, the mourningstar vox just spoke about "localized drownyard clan activity"
dafuq's that supposed to mean, only fs can know.
celest dome
Maybe Water Cartel area (Torrent or other) and Clan being either the Water Cartel itself or the Dregs ?
crimson kayak
it could be the other gang that allied with the dregs
(wich btw i would have liked to see on the water cartel missions, as they are supposed to run the place)
celest dome
Drownyard at least feel like it's liquid something
There are Groaners who wear Water Cartel clothes
crimson kayak
oh no i meant like, human enemies, as the briefing says that the water cartel got kicked out because the dregs allied themselves with another gang to take em out
celest dome
Like as a new factions all together ?
crimson kayak
naaah, a couple reskins for the dregs would have been fine
no need to go the extra mile every time
crimson kayak
naaah, a couple reskins for the dregs would have been fine
hell, you could have actually used them for the stalkers now that i think about it
and make them more like dreg special forces than scab weird responce to melee gameplay
celest dome
I think they'll avoid it because otherwise you have to do it for every area (5) and if you introduce new faction you would end up with doing it all again each time
crimson kayak
i mean, the only "reskins" that could be needed would only be Moebian 21th (Pdf) poxxers and the unknown riverside gang.
celest dome
But why would they appear in the other areas ?
crimson kayak
no need to
just make the pdf poxxers appear in the aegis station/logistratum and the "gang dregs" only in riverside
but yeah, i know real terms of cost efficiency of modelling them and animating them for just a single map
and that it wouldn't be worth it
celest dome
Alternatively having much smaller factions that are area based that aren't part of the Scab/Dreg could also work.
Like Water Cartel, Enforcer (Prison area)...
crimson kayak
yep, that too
celest dome
But it's secondary to introducing other big factions to me.
And introducing missing Dreg and Scab units.
Like Dreg Sorcerer Lord, Plaguebearer Chaos Spawn
queen laurel
look apparently the thing that got me to play imperium was girls so if the god-e...
I mean the emperor seems like a person to possess very powerful shapeshifting so if anything he can be a a lot of things
storm jungle
He can, its more that he presents himself as a guy is their point
well that and Warhammer was made in the 80's so you know what that means
rose thorn
Hey besides BT have imperial fists done anything? Besides circle jerking against iron warriors?
In 40K
Not HH lmao
Well, has any of the vanilla marines besides ultra marines do anytning lmao
green loom
Hey besides BT have imperial fists done anything? Besides circle jerking against...
They popped up to Cadia in the Phalanx and nearly screwed up the entire traitor plan
They defended Terra during the Sack of Lion's Gate and lost their Chapter Master
I can't remember much anything else that's specific
celest dome
They have participated in a lot of campaign
rose thorn
They popped up to Cadia in the Phalanx and nearly screwed up the entire traitor ...
Oh yeah their chapter masters drop like flies
celest dome
They worked with Vulkan once
rose thorn
I wonder why.
celest dome
Most active CM, doesn't stay at home
green loom
Well, has any of the vanilla marines besides ultra marines do anytning lmao
The Wolves went and fought the Orks and nearly killed Ghaz, but didn't
The BA have been fighting Tyranids non stop
The Salamanders have..... yes
DA sat on the rock, fought TS during Psychic Awakening for like 5 minutes, and then defended the Rock, twice
The IH haven't really done anything afaik
Raven Guard haven't really done anything
White Scars got some action in Psychic Awakening I think but don't remember what
signal bramble
The Wolves went and fought the Orks and nearly killed Ghaz, but didn't
The BA ha...
Per the Ghaz book, one of them (Ragnar) actually managed to decapitate the greatest war boss.
But he got better.
green loom
Ragnar should have died
signal bramble
Right? But he didn’t.
DA will definitely be getting some love soon obviously. Though there have been a few things they’ve done against the Tau and some other factions while hunting the fallen.
The Raven guard got some action fighting against plague zombies.
The IH and Scars haven’t done much.
I don’t remember how recent it was, but there was a short story where a daemon of tzeentch manipulated kharn and Azrael in to fighting each other. Azrael chose to escape while being hunted by kharn.
But he did leave the daemon to kharn as a present before he departed.
rose thorn
The Wolves went and fought the Orks and nearly killed Ghaz, but didn't
The BA ha...
I know raven guard fought tau for a little bit, but ate shit
vale shuttle
I mean the emperor seems like a person to possess very powerful shapeshifting so...
yeah as dilara ssaid i do ackn owledge this is the case but like, the emperor is alwayhs a big manly man glowing goldenly in a very strong way
if he actually presented himself as something other than that maybe i'd find the argument more compelling but i mean, since it never happens it's just a piece of trivia
rose thorn
casually scrolling through a pictorial list of all the chapters to find one with no lore to adopt and smash into my custom lore
the fact that both lex and the fandom wiki use the old BT art but the new chapter symbol irritates me so bad
and they update the damn red dragons art
storm jungle
if he actually presented himself as something other than that maybe i'd find the...
Yeah its just leftover 80's masculinity stuff
tho the lore has the thing of "the emperor can be worshipped as anything" but thats mostly done as an excuse in-universe to keep those kind of humans sticking to the Imperial Creed
otherwise hes basically always acknowledged as a man
vale shuttle
the only reason i think they added the whole "he shapeshifts and can take any form he likes, and can display himself however he likes" is because that's a very common way to showcase power
they want the emperor to seem powerful. he can be worshipped as anything, he takes many forms, your perception of him is what he wants you to see. that implies a great degree of power.
but, as you say dilara, in the end he is always acknowledged as a man. and he's always portrayed, when push comes to shove, as a big manly man with goldenly golden abs who manlily mans his way through all his problems
oh no i'm rambling again i need to cuirb this habit
storm jungle
All fine no harm done 
green loom
Relevant(question mark)
vale shuttle
this is obviously the canon reason and i wont accept any other explanation
crisp heath
New headcanon: The Emperor is Alucard and was a chick during WW2
rose thorn
Relevant(question mark)
better then the offical reason
celest dome
Which is ?
rich patrol
Why do people say the custodes are incorruptible
celest dome
Because they are made by handcrafted and are made with such loyalty to the Emperor than they can't turn to Chaos
queen laurel
Why do people say the custodes are incorruptible
Look up aegis of the emperor
signal bramble
Why do people say the custodes are incorruptible
They’re also conditioned to have reduced emotions that the chaos gods can’t feed on.
queen laurel
That's the easiest answer basically
rich patrol
They’re also conditioned to have reduced emotions that the chaos gods can’t feed...
But they literally turned on the emperor after horus fucked with their brains
signal bramble
They’re conditioned to have overwhelming loyalty to big E without pesky things like love, ego, etc.
signal bramble
But they literally turned on the emperor after horus fucked with their brains
Nothing is ever completely incorruptible.
And they were in the flagship of Horus who had all four chaos gods on corrupted ground.
rich patrol
if even primachs are corruptible custodes must be
queen laurel
if even primachs are corruptible custodes must be
Yes chaos can even corrupt machine itself
signal bramble
Again, nothing is incorruptible, big E just made them as resistant as he possibly could.
rich patrol
and I really want stories during the dark age of technology
like the power to say nope to a planet and it would get eaten by robot worms
green loom
But they literally turned on the emperor after horus fucked with their brains
They didn't turn
They were being puppeted
Because Chaos is going that rampant on the Vengeful Spirit, combined with ol Horus' influence
rich patrol
but the most important thing is, can humans fornicate with eldars
green loom
Can dogs fornicate with humans?
rich patrol
or would we be crushed or something
green loom
About the same level to the Eldar
queen laurel
but the most important thing is, can humans fornicate with eldars
Long ago there used to be half eldar are half human things
rich patrol
Can dogs fornicate with humans?
ayo
signal bramble
There have been humans who have yes.
queen laurel
But it's no longer canon
signal bramble
There was one fem deldar who mentioned using some of the “666 pleasures” on a human male.
queen laurel
Hell one time there was even the space marine who was half eldar
queen laurel
There was one fem deldar who mentioned using some of the “666 pleasures” on a hu...
Are you sure it's not dark eldar
signal bramble
Yeah. I usually call them “deldar” or “Druks”
queen laurel
There was one fem deldar who mentioned using some of the “666 pleasures” on a hu...
So this was just a basic dark eldar
Good to know
signal bramble
@queen laurel Here’s the sfw part of the excerpt at the end.
It’s from a book called nightbringer.
I had the number wrong.
queen laurel
It’s from a book called nightbringer.
Quick question
Dark eldar still have pointy ears right
signal bramble
Yes.
celest dome
Orks have pointy ears
signal bramble
Not surprised folks don’t know of that excerpt. There are a few pretty graphic ones that GW does its best to hope people forget about it.
There’s a bit in an official book where some Slaanesh marines find a Planetary Governor’s harem and go full hentai demon on them. It’s very graphic.
queen laurel
Orks have pointy ears
Yes but they're orks so they don't count
signal bramble
That excerpt above as well is pretty graphic in its full detail also. >_>;
queen laurel
Not surprised folks don’t know of that excerpt. There are a few pretty graphic o...
Do you remember the massacre of the sisters?
Yeah
I remember
The grey knights
celest dome
Yes but they're orks so they don't count
but you're an ork
signal bramble
But most novels nowadays avoid that and just about any romantic relationships. There are still a few here and there or hints of intimacy but they are around.
queen laurel
but you're an ork
Yes but pointy ears for us don't matter
summer rover
But most novels nowadays avoid that and just about any romantic relationships. T...
i mean, if you've seen 40k tourniments you'd know these people don't understand romantic relationships.
signal bramble
i mean, if you've seen 40k tourniments you'd know these people don't understand ...
I don’t think the setting needs them anyway.
At least not as a focus. Keep it on the battles and combat.
queen laurel
At least not as a focus. Keep it on the battles and combat.
The romans part can be a night side piece
As i say as long as your addition to the story doesn't ruin it, it is fine
summer rover
got it, no allowing dark elves in the story
rich patrol
What happened to the lost primachs???
Did the emperor just gave up looking or did he put them up for adoption
celest dome
Nothing known
rich patrol
lazy writing?
celest dome
They were found then lost
celest dome
lazy writing?
They are there to let people homebrew their Chapters
rich patrol
how the hell do you lose 2 primachs and their chapters like losing your wallet
celest dome
1 purged and 1 lost
rich patrol
maybe legion of the damned is related to the lost primach
celest dome
With the survivor possibly being rolled in the rest of the legion
celest dome
maybe legion of the damned is related to the lost primach
As far as we know the Prinarch of the Legion of the Damned is Ferrus Mannus
rich patrol
I thought it's Guilliman
celest dome
Guilliman is still alive
rich patrol
why would ferrus have 2 chapters
rich patrol
Ferrus magus alreadt has Iron hands
celest dome
And the Legion of the Damned are not a Legion, but composed of Dead or Spirit of SM and not real SM
rich patrol
so it's not a chapter but a mix of daemon marines
celest dome
Basically
rich patrol
And does the sister of battle or black templar know that if the big E wasn't a vegetable he would hate their guts for being religious
celest dome
His loss
rich patrol
like how does the sister of battle perform miracles? It certainly can't be from the emperor's power
celest dome
And tbh Act of Faith of the Sister would imply that the Emperor see their righteousness
rich patrol
So he's like they might be religious nuts but at least they're keeping my imperium together
rose thorn
flipping through chapters with no lore that died to tyranids to adopt
and found these dudes
da shadow wolvees
being refounded as a mostly primaris chapter, and htey are obessed with hunting tyranids orks and chaos
and then i can get the uh combat patrol space wolves
and paitn them pruple and silver
and throw on some nid bits
mwah perfecta
queen laurel
being refounded as a mostly primaris chapter, and htey are obessed with hunting ...
Really
That's it
They don't have any special wacky gimmicks?
rose thorn
Really
oh nah thats my new lore, im gonna jsut make them fucking crazy and all stylized like that new Lieutenant
queen laurel
oh nah thats my new lore, im gonna jsut make them fucking crazy and all stylized...
Oh ok
You're making a homebrew chapter that doesn't have a very specific gimmick
That's new
rose thorn
also they have a good colorshceme and isnt red/blue marines
queen laurel
also they have a good colorshceme and isnt red/blue marines
Ok ok
rose thorn
their strategy will jsut be hunting tacitcs, trophy taking
wear your kills (literally)
queen laurel
their strategy will jsut be hunting tacitcs, trophy taking
Well if we're talking about ideas
Can i talk about you my own Ork clan
If you don't want to hear about me rumbling something of course you're free to go
rose thorn
also the survival of the fittest ideology, the better hunter
rose thorn
Can i talk about you my own Ork clan
nah go crazy, i dont see any acutal custom clanz outside of AOS
queen laurel
nah go crazy, i dont see any acutal custom clanz outside of AOS
Since i can't draw for shit i mostly explain the things i made up through text
rose thorn
(the aos clanz kinda fucking suck anyway lol)
signal bramble
What happened to the lost primachs???
We don’t know. It’s intentionally being kept a mystery.
queen laurel
nah go crazy, i dont see any acutal custom clanz outside of AOS
Ok so this Ork klan is named the Git Krusherz, they specialize in weirdly enough rescue missions
They will offer their services to the imperium for rescue
signal bramble
Sometimes it’s better when we don’t know the answer. There are a few clues here and there about what happened to them but that’s about it.
queen laurel
Of course the places they rescue people from are rather dangerous
rose thorn
"WE BE SAVIN THE LADZ
queen laurel
They get to find something while saving
People
Of course the other Orks find this disgusting
signal bramble
Actually rescuing and being selfless isn’t completely alien to the Orks. It does happen in a book.
crimson kayak
And does the sister of battle or black templar know that if the big E wasn't a v...
It's too late for the big E to even think about staying an atheist when faith is seemingly the only thing keeping him together
queen laurel
"WE BE SAVIN THE LADZ
But Gork and Mork don't really care because the explain this in the classic Orks way
"IF WE'S SAVE THE RUNTZ WE HAVE MORE RUNTZ TO FIGHT"
So basically they are just saving them to make fighting opponents
They will save just about everyone
Eldar, Tau, human
You name it but of course they will want payment
After the rescue they will give the people they saved a note
And what's written on the note this simple
"We will come back to kill you lot, so you runtz be better prepared"
crimson kayak
Lol
queen laurel
So basically they save people to fight them
crimson kayak
Seems like a very convoluted deathskulls plot for choosing who to fight and loot
"yes they can afford payment, that means they got da good stuff"
signal bramble
There are Orks who save others out of genuine solidarity and a bond with each other.
But they wouldn’t hire Orks to do the rescue, just to be the distraction and smash their in to the building.
queen laurel
Seems like a very convoluted deathskulls plot for choosing who to fight and loot
Well some extra loot won't hurt they say, as they raid the entire armory
rose thorn
Ballin
queen laurel
So merc orks but they actually keep their word
Yes the Git Krusherz will save their client and then will come back to kill that client stronger than ever
Basically they will help the client get stronger so that they get a better fight
They are very very specifically doing this
The other orks are very confused
signal bramble
So merc orks but they actually keep their word
Ork mercs keep their word until they decide they don’t want to.
rose thorn
Also what does the new rules mean by ‘enchantments’ in the army building phase Lmao
Are warlord traits and relics enchantments? Is there only 3 warlord traits allowed total?
arctic talon
Are warlord traits and relics enchantments? Is there only 3 warlord traits allow...
Prolly
arctic talon
Meh
I don’t miss them
In game flavor doesn’t matter nearly as much as the actual lore
rose thorn
Yeah I’m glad
It also encourages custom shit more
So your table top subfaction is based purely off lore and not rules
crimson kayak
So we are getting away from having a codex per chapter?
rose thorn
Yes
I assume you can only have like, one chapter master per list
And shit like that
crimson kayak
chapter master army
rose thorn
GULLIMAN AND HIS MARY SUE ARMY
ALSO Gulliman basically gets abbadon treatment
And there’s porbably gonna be faction traits that unlock the non codex chapter shit
Red thirst for blood angels, locks you outta of named non BA characters
Some bullshit for BT and SW
arctic talon
Rite of honor or some shit for BT
rose thorn
Yea
The question is will it take up all their chapter trait slots or just one?
Maybe BT it will take all and BA and SW it just takes one
rose thorn
Oh well
versed ledge
So do Tau gue'vesa have access to all the Tau goodies and toys?
Like heavier weapon platforms, medicine, and food?
Also research
crimson kayak
Mostly nope unless the gue'vesa place is actively invaded
But yeah, "civilian" tech is granted basically the moment you sign the obligations
Gue'vesa can also become battlesuit pilots, granted this is exceedingly rare
rose thorn
Looking at space wolf models hurt my soul
‘I just need minor amount of wolf for my shadow wolves! Let’s see if there’s a good kit for lite wolfness’
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS AAAA
‘The rune gun’
copper patrol
i'll rune your gun
rose thorn
~~it shoots ice but still~~
WHAT
No offense but how do even space wolf fans take space wolves seriously?
summer rover
space wolf fans don't take warhammer seriously.
storm jungle
Theres ones that do, trust me lmao
rose thorn
Frost weapons, its special to their chapter
IS THAT WAS A FROST AXE IS?!?
WHATS THE POINT OF FROST WEAPONS ON A FROZEN PLANET
summer rover
there's too many bits on modern techmarines anyways
summer rover
WHATS THE POINT OF FROST WEAPONS ON A FROZEN PLANET
they bring 'em to annoy slamanders
storm jungle
WHATS THE POINT OF FROST WEAPONS ON A FROZEN PLANET
They use it off-world like most weapons
its just "Viking = Cold"
about as far as the writers went with that idea i think
versed ledge
Mostly nope unless the gue'vesa place is actively invaded
So no vehicles or pulse guns? Or body armor?
rose thorn
They use it off-world like most weapons
What’s even the benefits though ;~;
crimson kayak
So no vehicles or pulse guns? Or body armor?
Pulse guns/very basic equipment in limited supplies mostly, but they still will receive full support and logistics if needed
storm jungle
Helfrost Weapons fire a beam of sub-zero energy that can instantly encase enemies in blocks of ice close to absolute zero, colder than the vacuum of space.
Translation:
crimson kayak
Pulse guns/very basic equipment in limited supplies mostly, but they still will ...
Remember that for the Tau making imperial guard stuff is basically child's play so it's much easier for them to just supply better methods for their current stuff than new shit
rose thorn
Finally, a chapter that is that one scene from despicable me
rose thorn
oh YEAH
storm jungle
where she traps you in an ice cube
and then uh
slowly aims
creates an ice shard
and impales it in your skull
so cute :3
rose thorn
Who tf even wrote space wolves ???
I know they were at least cool in HH because they had a purpose, and had an awareness to their flaw
They were the emperor’s executioners, their job was to make things dead.
versed ledge
Pulse guns/very basic equipment in limited supplies mostly, but they still will ...
Sounds like a fair and reasonable deal
rose thorn
Anything else they were basically incapable of doing lamo
crimson kayak
Sounds like a fair and reasonable deal
Yeah also easier than having to retrain entire pdf/regiments for the new weapons and equipment
versed ledge
Unless the Gue'vesa is from a cept worlx
rose thorn
Excuse me why does Arjac rockfist Foehammer have a shooting profile.
storm jungle
who the fuck-
storm jungle
Lmao