HERE WE GO
#40k-lore-chat
vale shuttle
every single banishment he gets a little more swole
undone zodiac
Angron waking and smashing the alarm clock demon into pancake
winter vessel
He’s swimming in an Olympic size pool filled with blood doing strokes
vale shuttle
angron bench presses as many bloodthirsters as he can
khorne's there spotting him
they're a team. they're gonna get those loyalist goons in 8 weeks 8 days and 8 hours, just you wait
undone zodiac
Wonder what proteine drink he has
vale shuttle
blood
vale shuttle
he has an infinite supply of it because of tuska daemon killer
green loom
Brb crying for my cities
vale shuttle
khorne's like: "may as well get some use out of this"
undone zodiac
Kharn spiking angrons proteine drink
supple helm
give me perry turbo
supple helm
AYO
undone zodiac
Hell yea 40k beastmen
storm jungle
I think uh
green loom
What the
green loom
Ahsbsnedis
supple helm
ROCK AND STONE
scenic bolt
he posted that disc link in every channel
rose thorn
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/03/23/abandon-ship-kin-and-beastmen-fle...
HOLY FUCKING SHIT A KILLTEAM BOX THAT ISNT FOR THR IMPERIUM?!
undone zodiac
Im gonna get that pack
rose thorn
NO FICKINH WAY
rose thorn
AND IS ONLY ABHUMAN V ABHUMAN
storm jungle
rose thorn
ITS CLOSEST WE ARE GETTING TO XENO V XENO
green loom
Wohoho now that's what I call a CHADcast
Wait
Impossible
Where's the tactical rock
green loom
BASED
green loom
This is my favourite stormcast model now
undone zodiac
I want votann kin with nuke grenade launcher
rose thorn
Oh yeah the lion model is cool
rose thorn
NYEYHAHAHSHS
supple helm
what is bro doing
storm jungle
hes doing his best
rose thorn
I’m exited for their AOS rules
supple helm
he loves casting spells
rose thorn
If I had to take a guess it probably just buffs the chaos spawn style shits
green loom
Domitan took all the style, but good enough
rose thorn
I find the hood on the armor relaly fuckinh funny
green loom
Likely
storm jungle
Animation, called it
rose thorn
OOO?
green loom
OH
rose thorn
I should probably watch the stream
versed ledge
Never seen that before, what is that?
rose thorn
Is this whole animation just nids eating shit against ultra marines lmao
storm jungle
Never seen that before, what is that?
New mini, just got released
Also new edition announced!
green loom
New edition
rose thorn
YayYyy
vale shuttle
ooohh did they give an ETA for 10th?
green loom
Let's see Paul Allen's terminators
vale shuttle
im very interested to see the kinds of changes they have in mind
i like playing 40k but it can be real hard sometimes, and i'd hope they're going to streamline the rules
green loom
The 4th tyrranic war
storm jungle
oh
rose thorn
OR DID I MISSHEAR?
storm jungle
they just said "4th Tyrannic War"
vale shuttle
ALL RILES ARE FREEE
alright who killed James Workshop and replaced him with an impostor
rose thorn
Also they made the data sheets into basically KT cards and it’s hilarious
sleek oak
storm jungle
sleek oak
Rahhhhh
vale shuttle
primaris terminators?
green loom
No
sleek oak
Kinda swag
storm jungle
primaris terminators?
Explicitly said to be not "Primaris" terminators
just the same old termies
they simply went to the gym
storm jungle
rose thorn
I wonder why they are gonna call start collectings
green loom
Explicitly said to be not "Primaris" terminators
Just said, both can wear it
arctic talon
so they're CSM sized
rose thorn
Hmmm
green loom
So they're terminators
But primaris also use them
green loom
Nothing
green loom
"Not even Cawl could improve upon this"
green loom
Unknown
arctic talon
storm jungle
KEK
green loom
Oh they big
rose thorn
Ey nice
green loom
That's some SEXY scale
vale shuttle
grey knights are gonna need a full refresh in a few years at this rate
rose thorn
Yea lol, I’ve seen poeple just replace the legs and they look good
arctic talon
NEW NIDS
rose thorn
IM NOT WTACHING OH SHIT
vale shuttle
4 kits lol
should be an easy job then gary worskhop get on it!!!
green loom
Oh that's exciting
"The Tyranid faction is going to be absolutely spoiled this year"
"Biggest plastic update yet"
green loom
Idk, they've been doing a good amount of refreshes
storm jungle
green loom
And the trailer did have some funky stuff
rose thorn
Im glad that they work well side by side of the old kits
storm jungle
We did see the rumored "gene-hunters"
arctic talon
no
storm jungle
eating marines like they are spaghetti
rose thorn
Now gw reveal soemrhing for Army I play I dare you
storm jungle
arctic talon
Warriors are strong in lore
they eat marines for breakfast
unless the marine has a name
green loom
So, Segmentum Solar might be threatened
green loom
Technically old
storm jungle
damn it
green loom
Since it's Leviathan, just from another side 
rose thorn
Well codexes are free now
arctic talon
Still doesn't excuse them
rose thorn
So it wouldn’t be that bad if they don’t
arctic talon
not being in the codex
rose thorn
pls stratagems are mid
arctic talon
eh
arctic talon
huh
rose thorn
That’s
Okay ig, thousands sons will actually play the game now outside of one phase lol
vale shuttle
command phase and psychic phase are getting glued together arent they?
rose thorn
Moral and and command
vale shuttle
oh wow moral, command, and psychic are all gonna be one phase?
rose thorn
thousand sons have insane shooting phase
True I was just thinking of the first pyker army j can think of
vale shuttle
look im just happy they're making the rules free
vale shuttle
codexes could focus more on lore and stuff maybe??? that'd be cool!!
codexes arent very useful for rules anyway considering all t he errata
arctic talon
we;ll see
rose thorn
Fuck I’m tired I need to sleep I have six ppl
arctic talon
Simplified army building
rose thorn
Shcool*
rose thorn
Simplified army building
Based
storm jungle
Sleep well Mag
vale shuttle
Simplified army building
omega based
green loom
This rules stuff sounds nice
Like I won't play, since there's no one around
But they sound nice
vale shuttle
that just describes genestealer cults
green loom
The one with the very old cursed model
rose thorn
OH yeah and I wanna see the new 10th edition box
vale shuttle
10th edition box will be dark angels vs tyranids
rose thorn
Oh
vale shuttle
im guessing
i dont know if this is true
but i would also bet massive amounts of money on it
rose thorn
I hope there’s like 2 variants
green loom
DA are focused against chaos, Nids are vs Ultras it seems
rose thorn
And tau vs orks
rose thorn
But they are
storm jungle
rose thorn
Xenos*
storm jungle
green loom
Yes that
green loom
I recognized it immediately y
storm jungle
same lmao
green loom
But it's been a while
storm jungle
god too long
rose thorn
Hugger <3
green loom
I'll be woken up anyway to spray trees and mow lawns so I could at least go eat
vivid turtle
hogdamn they brought him back
storm jungle
Everyone knew he was coming back anyway.
Im glad they got the most boring reveal out of the way
vale shuttle
yeah like, lion's reveal isn't really a reveal more of a confirmation
storm jungle
Yeah its pretty much why they revealed him in like what, the first 5 minutes? Then just rolled on like nothing happened, which admittedly surprised me.
vivid turtle
can't wait for the upcoming lore interactions
scenic bolt
possibly also to boost viewership, it worked, viewer numbers climbed after lion
lime sluice
Everyone knew he was coming back anyway.
I just waited for him to come back since the Angels of Death Codex in the mid 90's ffs
heady pine
green loom
Always was
arctic talon
They’re showing it now
Which is a big change
The imperium has taken L’s in every single supplement GW has released
And this is yet another L
vale shuttle
love it when the imperium gets smacked
||i'll always be hoping for an end-times shake up where the imperium is finally brought low and loses its galactic superpower status||
green loom
They've effectively been in a painfully drawn out death rattle since the heresy
arctic talon
Yeah
They’re gona drag it out as long as possible
Hell the imperium lost almost half of itself
During the great rift
vale shuttle
i know the imperium has been on the decline for 10K years i just think that it having a total collapse / massive retraction could lead to alot of new and interesting things
for example, if the imperium collapsed / retracted then that would open the space for new human-but-not-imperial factions, new minor xenos, and chaos empires
green loom
Yeah that's the Imperium Nihilus
Pretty much entirely chaos territory save for the few stable warp routes through and with resistance mainly centered around Baal
Also wonder if thisll have any meaning now that Johnny is back
frigid tundra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV3r6oZb2wI kid named the lion
shadow plover
quite happy with the reveals, loads of cool callbacks in that 10th edition trailer
dense mortar
These really are cool. Question, do people just purchase minis with the intent of building dioramas, with no intent to play the actual TT game?
I dont suspect I would play the game, but would love to build a battle scene
arctic talon
These really are cool. Question, do people just purchase minis with the intent ...
Yes people do that
shadow plover
My hobby is 80% building and painting and 20% playing
I've got 5+ armies of which I pretty much have only played one
scenic bolt
your models, do what you want with them
dense mortar
I have built some large scale dioramas in the past. Battle of Hoth being one I enjoyed quite a bit.
Warhammer seems like its uniquely designed for battle building
scenic bolt
people buy models just to have bits to be used either for basing decoration etc etc
arctic talon
^
vale shuttle
These really are cool. Question, do people just purchase minis with the intent ...
people buy the models just to paint them
uneven temple
yeah a lot of people i talk to never really play, they just hoover up models and paint em
dense mortar
Sweet. I did a pretty intricate Halloween theme'd headless horseman diorama over Halloween. Have all this paint and nothing to do with it now. . . perhaps an army of Space Walves
vale shuttle
while my dad doesn't buy 40k models, he has hundreds of historic models he bought just to paint them put them in a box and eventually resell them at the local wargaming convention
uneven temple
few people commit to dioramas, mostly just paint and then have somewhere
chilly palm
What will lions return have on the economy smh
vale shuttle
increase in GW profits which means that the British economy will finally recover
tight mulch
increase in GW profits which means that the British economy will finally recover
The British economy single handily making a comeback thanks to gw.
But my god seeing the lions model.
Never let a watcher look over you while you sleep.
Bros made him age.
vale shuttle
they'll elect James Workshop to be the new monarch
Gary Workshop will be the prime minister
primaris intercessors will be the new currency
coarse mirage
The British economy single handily making a comeback thanks to gw.
The fandoms economy from importing from the UK is what’s failing
sleek wigeon
they'll elect James Workshop to be the new monarch
I'd be down with that
can't be worse than the tories, surely
green loom
Such a charismatic face, how could you not vote for him
crimson kayak
Sooo, we are getting the lion back and nids are gonna fuck up indomitus
crisp heath
So the lore hasn't been released yet, but the new Lion model does seem to be holding the Lion Sword, meaning Cypher gave it back, whatever that implies
crisp heath
Streams last hours, I'm not watching that shit and will substitute my own reality
green loom
They confirmed that he suicide dives at Angron and Perma kills him while dying himself
crimson kayak
They confirmed that he suicide dives at Angron and Perma kills him while dying h...
Wait who?
Cypher or the lion?
crimson kayak
Ei, what is this, the alpha legion codex?
vale shuttle
Streams last hours, I'm not watching that shit and will substitute my own realit...
based
green loom
Hey Dark Angels are stupid complex on their own smh
vale shuttle
dark angels be like "we have a good dozen conspiracies running, each one based around keeping another conspiracy secret, which is all based around making sure no-one knows about the Fallen, the part of our Legion that went traitor during the Horus Heresy. this is despite the fact that every Legion had portions of it that did or did not join Horus."
dusk patrol
So uh
crimson kayak
(I am deceiving you)
Anyhow it would be funny as fuck if they actually introduced back Angron and the lion just to have them fuck off and die permanently
crimson kayak
We can see a Watcher's hand
Yes but it was painted grey so it's most likely armor
little gust
the combine-weapons in the trailer
crimson kayak
And new termies
hushed kayak
just saw the stream, Gw didn’t disappoint this time
little gust
all this talk of hope and hymns of a imperial victory, but corpse pile of dead sons and their devoured worlds
crimson kayak
all this talk of hope and hymns of a imperial victory, but corpse pile of dead s...
I mean, it's also the first tyranid invasion from the west side of the galaxy
little gust
I mean, it's also the first tyranid invasion from the west side of the galaxy
very true
it was amazing trailer
crimson kayak
And it's set after the hell in a cage match between Vashtoor/Angron/Belakor and the lion
little gust
Love the new lion model
hushed kayak
same, i’m more surprised about the new terminator armour
crimson kayak
I mean, it was basically the last thing missing from the primaris book
As scout basically got shafted by the reivers and such
hushed kayak
That’s true, but didn’t think it would be that different
crimson kayak
That’s true, but didn’t think it would be that different
I mean, they can still be played as firstborn too
little gust
the new nid life-forms are awsome, but horrifying, thank the emperor, its the space marines not the astral militarium
crisp heath
Is the western fleet part of leviathan?
crimson kayak
Yep
hushed kayak
sounds like it
crisp heath
Dope
crisp heath
I was hoping they wouldn't replace leviathan as the main nids, purple is my favorite color and nids are my favorite faction
hushed kayak
western fleet is supposedly near terra so that’s something
little gust
By the throne!
hushed kayak
well on the western fringe
crisp heath
Oh I think they're ramping up for a tyranid invasion of Terra honestly
little gust
they are close the heart of the imperum
crimson kayak
It's basically the confirmation that tyranids are actually all around our galaxy
crisp heath
Lots of stuff is pointed towards that
crimson kayak
Oh I think they're ramping up for a tyranid invasion of Terra honestly
I mean we are getting a full on 4th tyranic war so I guess so for a climax
little gust
10th edition, the nid edition
hushed kayak
they are close the heart of the imperum
after what happen on Baal, they want payback for sho
little gust
after what happen on Baal, they want payback for sho
very true, baal stands
barely, dante wants to die but cant
hushed kayak
lmao so true, and also Dante becoming a primaris is something
crimson kayak
barely, dante wants to die but cant
Get in the Rubicon Dante!
crisp heath
after what happen on Baal, they want payback for sho
Baal was barely an inconvenience, all the successors lost were from chapters made for the novel
crimson kayak
Baal was barely an inconvenience, all the successors lost were from chapters mad...
Then we are lucky we are probably getting a culling of the ultramarines successor plague
hushed kayak
Baal was barely an inconvenience, all the successors lost were from chapters mad...
wow, that just hit me rn. You’re right, only one i remembered proper from the others was the flesh tearers
green loom
The current imperial fists chapter is just the rebranded Fists Exemplar
little gust
The current imperial fists chapter is just the rebranded Fists Exemplar <:KEKW_o...
yup lol
hushed kayak
weirdly enough, lamenters weren’t present during the invasion. Must be too busy repenting 
little gust
weirdly enough, lamenters weren’t present during the invasion. Must be too busy ...
I believe their taking a repenta crusade against chaos?, as to why they weren't there at baal's darkest hour
crimson kayak
Quick question, who are those Diablo 3 Templar looking sororitas?
little gust
if you remember the Baa dap war
green loom
Quick question, who are those Diablo 3 Templar looking sororitas?
Sacrosancts I thijk
hushed kayak
if you remember the Baa dap war
yeah that’s right, after helping the now turned traitors Red Corsairs. I’m assuming they’re to get back on them
crimson kayak
Sacrosancts I thijk
Yep, thanks
little gust
surely
crimson kayak
Lamenters didn't join Baal because they were almost out of marines btw
hushed kayak
it’s mind boggling that they mentioned that a regular combat patrol is enough for 10th edition new objective game
green loom
I like to think they were on their way to Baal but got stuck in the warp, and figured it died
Only to emerge to it while it's being built into a Hub fortress
crimson kayak
It's actually told in the Dante novel
green loom
A nice hopeful moment for our unlucky gamers
hushed kayak
It's actually told in the Dante novel
what was mentioned about them?
crimson kayak
what was mentioned about them?
That they didn't join as their forces where already too fucked up to get to Baal
little gust
Lamenters didn't join Baal because they were almost out of marines btw
legit, but both reasons stand lol
if you catch my drift
hushed kayak
That they didn't join as their forces where already too fucked up to get to Baal
jesus lmao
i shouldn’t be surprised
queen laurel
Lamenters didn't join Baal because they were almost out of marines btw
They have the luck of an average gacha player of course they wouldn't join
queen laurel
My brother in christ if you put them there, all would be left are their blood stains on the floor
hushed kayak
They have the luck of an average gacha player of course they wouldn't join
their chances are so goddamn low lmao
queen laurel
their chances are so goddamn low lmao
They are so unlucky that i have a higher chances of winning the lottery than them winning a battle without losing something
coarse mirage
Lion, you say?
hushed kayak
Remember the Celestial lions
poor bastards, they weren’t like the space wolves
little gust
poor bastards, they weren’t like the space wolves
Justice can't beat the inquisition hereticus
little accident here and there, and going to be killed off by Orks, if it weren't for Grimaldus of the black templar
hushed kayak
Justice can't beat the inquisition hereticus
Unless you’re Logan, or Bjorn.
queen laurel
little accident here and there, and going to be killed off by Orks, if it weren'...
Did you just spell orcs with the c instead of a k?
crisp heath
Lamenters being wiped on Baal right after being reformed would be fucking amazing
little gust
Did you just spell orcs with the c instead of a k?
<:staregryn:10220850838443253...
Fixed'
green loom
poor bastards, they weren’t like the space wolves
Yeah, less plot armour meant a realistic outcome
little gust
Lamenters being wiped on Baal right after being reformed would be fucking amazin...
They weren't at Baal
hushed kayak
Lamenters being wiped on Baal right after being reformed would be fucking amazin...
After what they’re going through i’d say that’s the best peace they can get lol
hushed kayak
Yeah, less plot armour meant a realistic outcome
surprisingly it worked out well.
crimson kayak
surprisingly it worked out well.
less than 96 marines remain alive
"i consider this a tactical success"
Anyhow they are currently busy fucking The Pure up in Elara's Veil with their emperor's Spear pals
Or well, getting fucked up considering how things are going during Spear of the emperor
Like, their chapter master gets decapitated by a callidus
Out of nowhere
crisp heath
Did you know that if Lamenters and Ultramarines work together, their manipulation of chance balances out and the outcome of the battle is based on the quality of their tactics, numbers and equipment?
crimson kayak
Did you know that if Lamenters and Ultramarines work together, their manipulatio...
At that point just field the raptors
Aka the "I'll paint you however the fuck I want because you change Camo" marines
near wasp
Im so glad i joined 40k when i did.
crimson kayak
Wait, when would that be?
near wasp
Came in after guilliman and just in time to see the lion return
near wasp
This also means cyphers identity might be revealed soon
Since he has lions sword and all
crisp heath
Omegon
crimson kayak
Yo mama
crisp heath
"Finally, it's time to find out who Cypher really is"
"I don't know who this is"
vale shuttle
cypher is literally just some guy
"It was me, Dudeus Mannicus."
"Who?"
"Y'know - I - I was in the Fourth Company during the Great Crusade."
"Huh?"
near wasp
crimson kayak
Dudeus Mannicus is gonna get stolen the moment I hop into space marine 2 multiplayer
near wasp
Cypher holding back tears as his primarch has conpletely forgotten who he was because a nap was more important than saving the galaxy
vale shuttle
feel free
crimson kayak
Wich btw, never picked much of the Horus Heresy, why was the lion under the rock again?
near wasp
Coma
vale shuttle
he went sleepy time, was he in a stasis chamber?
crimson kayak
Oh so just like guilliboy
near wasp
No stasis
near wasp
Just stanking up the air with his old man smell
crimson kayak
I hope we get even just a tiny bit of watchers lore
ripe ravine
yeah they're a bit of a mystery box
vale shuttle
yeeeaaahh tbh there's just not muich substance to them they're like
guys
who hang out and watch and that's really it
crisp heath
Watcher lore is pretty robust, it's just intentionally mysterious, like I could write a pretty decent paragraph about them just using stuff that's already basically official
It just seems really insubstantial because it's never all been put in one place
crimson kayak
who hang out and watch and that's really it
And are said to be guiding the dark angels against chaos, know eldrad and a bit of other stuff
crisp heath
Honestly they aren't even that mysterious, pretty much anything you could want to know about them is known, they just don't do very much
vale shuttle
oh no, i have been proven a fool for not knowing as much as i thought about watcher lore
crimson kayak
Yeah, I just want them doing a bit of something, especially considering two are accompanying the primarch
vale shuttle
please do not laugh at me :(
crimson kayak
please do not laugh at me :(
You didn't appease the Lore Gods, your punishment is reading the whole Cato Sicarius omnibus
vale shuttle
oh no that's fine i'll just fucking shoot myself in the head instead
crisp heath
Guilliman, visiting his brother for tea: oh what a cute servitor you have
The Watcher, pouring said tea: cling to your ideals while you can, for I have seen your every possible death, and you never leave this world an atheist
They're genuinely adorable though I could gush all day about them
They're just homesick and want to take care of their friends 😦
near wasp
The most i know about the dark angels is they have jawas, hate the fallen. And nearly killed guilliman
vale shuttle
the dark angels are pretty cool
they might be the edgiest loyalist legion. they have a whole load of dark age weaponry cause the emperor was all
crisp heath
Really like the fact that the first 2 primarchs to come back are The Lion and Guilliman because they're two different ends of the autism spectrum
vale shuttle
"guys i need people to exterminate things. like totally wipe them out. i need things entirely erased from history because i am a reasonable person. y'know."
so he got the dark angels to wipe from history anytthing that he disliked using their DAoT guns and stuff
anyway when the horus heresy happened the dark angels (like every legion) had a bunch of traitors. these guys took over caliban and that made the dark angels loyalists freak out. they killed them and were all "oh no, no-one can ever find out about this stain on our honour!" so they began a conspiracy to make sure no-one found out
minor problem!!! a bucnh of those traitor dark angels, called the fallen, they escaped and got out into the galaxy. so now the dark angels went around hunting them and killing them. they also went around making sure people who found out about the fallen got merked.
so basically as time went on they kept making more and more conspiracies as they killed more and more fallen and fallen-knowers and like, this makes them all super paranoid
since if one of the house of cards collapses then everyone will realise "hey wait these guys keep murdering people and doing bad things to cover up their old bad things. holky shit they've been doing this for 10k yhears what the fuck"
anyway, that's the dark angels.
thank you for coming to my todd talk
obtuse locust
my god....it really happened.
so who do you guys think will come back next? russ or khan?
crimson kayak
they might be the edgiest loyalist legion. they have a whole load of dark age we...
This made me remember the time they dropped 7 men on iron on Conrad kurze
obtuse locust
40k fans are eating well today. lion is back, and a pretty good darktide patch.
crimson kayak
40k fans are eating well today. lion is back, and a pretty good darktide patch.
And new edition with simpler rules, but that may go very good or very bad, we'll see
obtuse locust
dark angels asking the ultramarines for tips on how to err...catch up with their recently awakened dad.
near wasp
40k fans are eating well today. lion is back, and a pretty good darktide patch.
Guess i need to go read the patch notes huh
crimson kayak
dark angels asking the ultramarines for tips on how to err...catch up with their...
Imperium Secundus moment on "how to deal with the fact your dad might be dead"
obtuse locust
Guess i need to go read the patch notes huh
*pretty good patch in my opinion.
crisp heath
Russ is the most popular non-dead loyalist after The Lion, from what I've seen, and GW is really kind to Space Wolves. It'll be Russ next.
sleek wigeon
I get a gut feeling we might see a Ferrus Mannis mini for Horus Heresy/30K
crisp heath
If they bring back all the primarchs, I'd imagine Khan or Dorn to be dead last
obtuse locust
fortifying intensifies
vale shuttle
i dont think khan should ever return
celest dome
Dorn is the most popular I'd have said tbh
crimson kayak
I get a gut feeling we might see a Ferrus Mannis mini for Horus Heresy/30K
we do?
sleek wigeon
wot
crimson kayak
sleek wigeon
holy shit I'm dumb
vale shuttle
poor ferrus manus
sleek wigeon
real
vale shuttle
he's gotta be the least popular primarch
sleek wigeon
fulgrim was such a loser lmao
vale shuttle
ive never met anyone whose ride-or-die for the iron fists
near wasp
Iron fists seems like a cool army to biuld just not my army
sleek wigeon
imagine murking your best friend because a daemon sword offered you the gud suck
pathetic
near wasp
You did this to me
vale shuttle
"The Iron Fists effect"
when something is so not-present in the mind that you replace it with a slightly different thing
vale shuttle
You did this to me
sorry for not being a perfect loremaster please dont bully me :(
near wasp
crisp heath
Ah yes, Mr. Iron Hands who rules over his legion, the Iron Hands, with his literal iron hands, from his flagship, the Fist of Iron
crimson kayak
holy shit I'm dumb
we have all primarch mini's on 30k currently
crisp heath
Gotta love a guy who's whole personality is having iron hands and being self conscious about his iron hands
near wasp
Then he tells his sons not to get iron hands
sleek wigeon
I genuinely wonder what they could do with iron hands
vale shuttle
idk
the iron hands could maybe lean into the mechanicus more
make them "mechanicus marines"
near wasp
You mean tech marines
sleek wigeon
I was thinking that too
near wasp
Which already exist
crimson kayak
Then he tells his sons not to get iron hands
and his sons proceed to go "instructions unclear, im all iron now"
vale shuttle
i mean making all of them not-quite-tech marines
sleek wigeon
iirc their gene seed is scuffed because ferris wheel died
crisp heath
His hands weren't even real iron
crimson kayak
i mean making all of them not-quite-tech marines
i mean being big fans of mechanical shit is already their theme
sleek wigeon
You mean tech marines
basically a chapter of techmarines, like a spec ops group for admech ig
iron hands could fit there tbh
crimson kayak
you know, their whole battlecry being "the flesh is weak"
near wasp
Maybe theyd be able to stall the technological shitfest and keep stuff from completely breaking down. Cawl can only do so much
sleek wigeon
I imagine Cawl hitting them up and offering to try get their gene seeds working well again at the cost of being under new management
sleek wigeon
real
there's also those shark lookin fellas
idk who they belong to but sky's the damn limit for space marines
near wasp
You do not see tyberos!
crisp heath
I mean Cawl would get sanctioned so fast if he tried to pull that shit
crimson kayak
I mean the high lords have the minotuars why shouldnt the admech get a chapter
they do, kind of, cawl's also basically made his own
crisp heath
Like it's a huge part of Cawl's role that he's allowed to keep doing his wacky experiments as long as he never makes a grab for power
sleek wigeon
I mean Cawl would get sanctioned so fast if he tried to pull that shit
Cawl has pulled off so much bullshit at this point I'm convinced he's untouchable
crisp heath
No one in the Imperium wants Cawl in a position of power higher than he has
crimson kayak
Like it's a huge part of Cawl's role that he's allowed to keep doing his wacky e...
meanwhile cawl making the black vipers as his personal chapter
also cawl being any edgy teenager and making his own chapter black with red details
sleek wigeon
bootleg iron warriors
crimson kayak
i mean, the salamanders know they exist
crisp heath
It's not just grabbing a first founding chapter and being like "hey you guys work for me now"
near wasp
But the slamaanders are such good guys they wont tell
crimson kayak
lol
near wasp
ignores the screams of eldar in the backround
crimson kayak
*ignores the screams of eldar in the backround*
ignores also the screams of nocturne slaves descendants
sleek wigeon
tbh I want them as an excuse for more admech minis
adeptus kataphronus is getting a little old
crisp heath
All we really have on them is a bit from the codex, so we don't really know much besides they exist, they're connected to Cawl, they're secret, and some poor chaplain is dead
Knowing Cawl they probably aren't even really salamanders
crimson kayak
also there were the steel confessors as admech heavy chapter but that's retconned i think
urban spire
i don't want admech space marines, i want more and better skitarii
sleek wigeon
both would be nice
anything but more kataphrons
crimson kayak
i don't want admech space marines, i want more and better skitarii
i would like something that isn't skitarii for once lol
sleek wigeon
I wonder if the Xenarites from mechanicus are an actual unit or just made up for heretek?
at least the xenarite tree you can go down
urban spire
weren't xenarites in one of the tabletop rpgs?
i've got literally all the books around here but i don't know if i have the stamina to flip through all of them
sleek wigeon
given what I'm reading up, they may have been a unit in 30K
crimson kayak
nope, they were just a single white dwarf unit
actually a named character
and then got introduced in an inquisition book
sleek wigeon
there's also Scaevola for named xenarites
crimson kayak
yep, also a bunch of others, but the only model sadly is that very old one
sleek wigeon
if they bring em back, i pray they look to the design from mechanicus and mix in some other xenos-influenced bits
crimson kayak
proceeds to kitbash a skitarii army using random weapons from all factions
urban spire
wraithbone mechadendrites and some kind of gauss staff
sleek wigeon
I just picture a kastellan or something with a bunch of ork shit plastered to it
Emperor help us if admech are ever able to make a stable, human-sized shokk attack gun to mount to one of them
crimson kayak
I just picture a kastellan or something with a bunch of ork shit plastered to it
dunecrawlers with railguns
urban spire
that sounds more like a looted kastellan
crimson kayak
that sounds more like a looted kastellan
i would love to see how that would work as non-itinerant kastellans are ordered around by floppy disks
rose thorn
Okay has the new lore for lion drop yet?
crimson kayak
not yet
but he's currently stuck on a three-way between vashtoor/belakor/angron atm
rose thorn
Any guesses for how that is gonna unfold?
rose thorn
but he's currently stuck on a three-way between vashtoor/belakor/angron atm
BELAKOR<33333
OMG HE ACTUALLY GETS TO DO SHIT?!
crimson kayak
yep, he ambushes vashtoor while he invades the rock because unlike him vashtoor is actually doing shit to get god status
rose thorn
LMAO
yeah that’s pretty Belakor
Oooo would Belakor’s legion get real lore?
I hope
crimson kayak
so probably vashtoor and belakor are gonna draw and gtfo, we get a lion vs angron moment and then we get introduced to the new tyranic war
rose thorn
Think imperium is gonna go into even more of a civil war with lion back?
Or think they are just gonna shake hands
And call it a day
crimson kayak
naah, remember that lion was along with guilliman for imperium secundus
so i guess they are gonna be fine
rose thorn
yeah but he also bombed Gulliman’s home planet trying to kill Conrad
crimson kayak
also they are most surely gonna bond over the disgust at what the imperium has become
rose thorn
And killed more@people then Conrad lamo
crimson kayak
And killed more@people then Conrad lamo
i actually want to see his reaction at seeing primaris dark angels
rose thorn
also they are most surely gonna bond over the disgust at what the imperium has b...
Fair
crimson kayak
why the fuck are they bigger
rose thorn
but also, hasn’t the imperium Basically not change since pre heresy?
Like it has all the slavery and shit it does now
rose thorn
*why the fuck are they bigger*
Well he’s posed with a bunch of primaris marines so it’s probably nothing big
I mean his reaction
crimson kayak
but also, hasn’t the imperium Basically not change since pre heresy?
it didn't change, but it's systems became gradually worse and worse
crimson kayak
I mean his reaction
oh yeah i don't think he's gonna hate them or anything, it's just funny to think him waking up after a more or less 10k years coma and literally seeing his "sons" grown up
rose thorn
OH YEAH I really hope Luther actually does soemthing
His book ended at the beginning of the battle for the rock
||And he escaped his cell||
Oh
Spoilers
urban spire
i would love to see how that would work as non-itinerant kastellans are ordered ...
probably the whole head replaced with a grot with a bunch of levers and dials
urban spire
as for how guilliman will get along with the lion
there is literally no way to predict this
it's GW writing
urban spire
they might instantly go for each other like big antisocial cats just because GW wants more OMLY AAR
rose thorn
Even if it’s just a universal 5+ save or soemthing for the legion
Okay that’s pretty strong
But still
Oh yeah think that symbol on farsighted that looks like a DA symbol gonna be important?
sleek wigeon
I think so
crimson kayak
it's most likely one of those rune-thingies the enclaves got against daemons
sleek wigeon
yeqh
rose thorn
Yeah, it does look like a rune that mainly AOS chaos has sometimes
crimson kayak
wich could connect with the da symbol wich could connect to the watchers in the dark going against chaos
but wich could also mean nothing and be geometrical for the sake of being so
sleek wigeon
farsight and lion being friends would be hilarious
crimson kayak
farsight and lion being friends would be hilarious
it's the new necrons helping the blood angels all over again
rose thorn
trazyn and cawl being drinking buds though
To be fair they are both heretics to their own kind lol
rose thorn
Also grey knights are good friends with tryzan actualky
Because they just give him demons and he puts them on display
Which is my favorite lore ever
And sometimes he gives them back a demon they need for tracking or something
In trade
sleek wigeon
it's amazing how many different things are this close to being bros in the lore
sleek wigeon
Which is my favorite lore ever
my favorite tidbit is the custodian and sister of silence dating
crimson kayak
grey knights are the most reasonable guys out here removing the "kill you because you saw me" lore bit
crimson kayak
i mean, cheaper than a bullet
rose thorn
But if there’s too many ppl they wil probably just remove the planet from the map lol
sleek wigeon
lmao
urban spire
i mean, cheaper than a bullet
is it?
rose thorn
Also also; soemtimes people just don’t know what the fuck a grey knight is
sleek wigeon
tbh I hope admech gets more lax sometime
if the whole inventing is heresy and xenos tech is heresy rules get ran back, admech would clean house
crimson kayak
is it?
considering how most forms of indoctrination are spread through the imperium i think so
rose thorn
So they can just call them selves ASTARTES a d ppl will believe them
queen laurel
Lmao they mostly do mind wipes
Better than using the blood of the sisters
rose thorn
‘Oh hey look a space marine!’
queen laurel
If you know you know
urban spire
good old grey knights of khorne
rose thorn
Better than using the blood of the sisters
To be fair that’s fucking hilarious
sleek wigeon
a lasgun crossed with a necron disintegrator would be pants shittingly terrifying
crimson kayak
tbh I hope admech gets more lax sometime
if the whole inventing is heresy and x...
literally just look at what cawl did, alone, in secret and with only his personal funds
rose thorn
Grey knight heresy is the best
As they always do trh worst shit imaginable when need be
queen laurel
a lasgun crossed with a necron disintegrator would be pants shittingly terrifyin...
The versatility of a lasgun give the stopping power of a atomizing gun
Well ain't that terrifying
vale shuttle
lmao i just got done doing some of the writing for my sisters army and we're talking about the sisters getting jobbed by the grey knights
sleek wigeon
The versatility of a lasgun give the stopping power of a atomizing gun
yes
admech unrestrained would be unstoppable
rose thorn
lmao i just got done doing some of the writing for my sisters army and we're tal...
Lmao
sleek wigeon
GW had to nerf them somehow and that's what they chose
crimson kayak
also, imagine how cool it would have it been if Vashtoor was used more like Hashut in fantasy and actually bring a dark mechanicum roster with himself
sleek wigeon
also, imagine how cool it would have it been if Vashtoor was used more like Hash...
please
yes
vashtoor + dark mechanicus as his faction
urban spire
idk who vashtoor is though
sleek wigeon
they would absolutely worship him
rose thorn
I hope ynnari get real lroe
vale shuttle
vashtorr is the new minor chaos god
crimson kayak
idk who vashtoor is though
it's the new daemon guy that wants to become the fifth chaos god
rose thorn
I went from hating them to fucking love them lmao
queen laurel
they are so poorly defined right now
And let me be honest i didn't know they existed until i watched a video specifically made about them
urban spire
ah, malal 2
sleek wigeon
idk who vashtoor is though
essentially the blacksmith/arms dealer of chaos, trying to ascend to godhood and become the 5th chaos god
rose thorn
it's the new daemon guy that wants to become the fifth chaos god
So we have like 5 guys after godhood now
vale shuttle
ah, malal 2
this one's actually canon!!!
crimson kayak
rose thorn
Belakor Vash abba that one necron
sleek wigeon
the cooler malal
urban spire
rad
vale shuttle
he's nothing like malal
crimson kayak
rad
also his whole point is that he doesn't trick
he actually lists out all benefits and things he wants in return on his contracts
queen laurel
Malal is just crying on the corner
urban spire
does he
queen laurel
Poor bastard
urban spire
look a bit like ikit claw?
sleek wigeon
he actually lists out all benefits and things he wants in return on his contract...
AND he has a good work ethic?
are we sure this guy is chaos god material?
crimson kayak
AND he has a good work ethic?
are we sure this guy is chaos god material?
i mean, he wants to become a god out of boredom and not being satisfied with having a monopoly on all chaos military production
queen laurel
i mean, he wants to become a god out of boredom and not being satisfied with hav...
I like him he makes weapons
But i'm pretty sure his brain would explode looking at ork weaponry
sleek wigeon
orks would be literally bulletproof vs him lmao
can't fuck about with someone's tech if they don't have tech to begin with
crimson kayak
does he
basically his whole point as a minor god is that he's powered by unbound curiosity and innovation, without morality or anything like it getting in the way.
sleek wigeon
ork guns are like picking up a stick that looks like a gun and it's an actual, whole ass gun
crimson kayak
and probably got birthed during the DaoT
urban spire
ork guns are like picking up a stick that looks like a gun and it's an actual, w...
that's a meme, it ain't how it works
ork technology is more reliable in ork hands, it still works in the absence of orks, just poorly
sleek wigeon
still, it'd be harder for vash to screw with them given how incomprehensible they are that even admech don't have a clue what they're looking at
queen laurel
that's a meme, it ain't how it works
Yes, they will need a lot of orks to pull that
They can shoot with the stick but they need and I MEAN A LOT OF ORKS
But if they reach that point i'm sure they wouldn't need the stick anyway
sleek wigeon
nids would also have a field trip vs vash, their guns are living creatures and thus unaffected by him
crimson kayak
rogue trader actually explains better how ork tek may work
coarse pumice
the original rulebook?
crimson kayak
no, the ttrpg
in there basically ork weapons have levels going from Poor to Best
Poor weapons basically break apart easily if anything other than an ork tries to use it
Common same as Poor
but from Good to Best it's like, actual tech you can use
remember how Yarrick literally has an ork claw guys
queen laurel
***remember how Yarrick literally has an ork claw guys***
Yes, but as i said they can still break reality they just need a lot of Orks
But if they reach that point they don't really need the reality breaking powers
near wasp
***remember how Yarrick literally has an ork claw guys***
Had
Yes im gonna rip open that wound
crimson kayak
me waiting for ghaz to fuck angron up
near wasp
And how do you knows he did it boss
queen laurel
And how do you knows he did it boss
The papers
IZ SMART
I can read human language
near wasp
Those papers didnt say angry killed yarrick
queen laurel
Those papers didnt say angry killed yarrick
But he is one of the suspects
And nothing else has been reported
So assumption wise we can only assume that it's the red raisin
near wasp
Why dont you go see if you can find tuska im sure hed love to help
crimson kayak
Too busy living in ork valhalla
queen laurel
Why dont you go see if you can find tuska im sure hed love to help
Nah the guy is on vacation that never ends
It's better to let him be
sleek wigeon
world eaters vs ghaz and maybe snickrot would go hard
tbh I get the feeling every ork clan would call a truce just to fuck up world eaters for old bale eye
near wasp
We need to same meme of belakor with a steel chair but with lion fighting angron with ghaz coming out of nowhere
crimson kayak
As long as I get a mini for Bullets I'm happy
crimson kayak
tbh I get the feeling every ork clan would call a truce just to fuck up world ea...
I mean, give it a couple lore bits and Ghaz basically got all orks of note under his command
sleek wigeon
Hammer & Bolter already set up yarrik as a story known by all orks. the fightiest humie an all that
you already know the greenies far & wide would honour him by fighting his killer
crimson kayak
yeah we getting new nids
plush mason
nice
rose thorn
I hope the new box 10th edition box is good, I’ve really wanted to start a nid Army and focus my love for insects into them
sleek wigeon
I'm still trying to find the courage to work on my admech box
definitely picked a hard one for my first
sleek wigeon
thankfully the guy at the shop has admech too (both of us were nerding out about them) and he showed me the best paints and whatnot
sleek wigeon
we love corvus black
rose thorn
Fun fact, these are the stealth based knights
In lroe
Let me check their rules I have the codex
sleek wigeon
how do you hide that fuckin thing
rose thorn
Chaos magic
Apparently shadow pours out of them
Also they can take Belakor in their army
Because Belakor owns them
plush mason
how does 40k Belakor differ from the fantasy version?
rose thorn
how does 40k Belakor differ from the fantasy version?
Nothing!
Literally
Nothing
Except now Belakor lost the soul forges in 40k, so now he doesn’t own shit in both 40k and AOS
He’s a Whiny bitch and he’s great
rose thorn
Yea
He was punished in AOS, but he escaped that punishment
oh in 40k he has a legion of space marines, in AOS he has normal chaos dudes
sleek wigeon
which legion is ol belly though?
arctic talon
which legion is ol belly though?
None
His disciples serve him and him alone
They can wear whatever colors they want
sleek wigeon
they don't even have a name?
arctic talon
Or be from any legion
arctic talon
they don't even have a name?
Disciples of Belakor
Are what his sub faction is called
Daemons, CSMs and cultists all fall under this umbrella
Also a lot of chaos knights
Belakor stole House Ravens homeworld lmao
arctic talon
House Raven isn’t related to the blood ravens
Lmao
They’re connected to the Forge World Metalica
dense mortar
When hell is broke lose, Marines are dying in droves, aliens are pushing further into imperial territory, all hope seems lost, standard tactics and war strategy are not working, lines of communication are broken. Who does the Imperium send in?>
arctic talon
More guardsmen into the meat grinder
Conscripts
Children
Anything to hold the line
dense mortar
No, "Oh shit button", send in the Space Slammers
arctic talon
They’re gona keep on throwing meat into the grinder
Till they can send for help
Human life is the cheapest and most easy resource for the imperium to spend
But if a marine strike force sent to aid you gets wiped out
Odds are you have to just either A. Wait it out
Or B. Ur gona die
dense mortar
Ok, comms has been re-established. Whats at stake here is not just human life. But something more important. Imperium territory.
The Imperium is not gonna want to lose it. Who do we send
arctic talon
A lot
Anything available prolly
If it’s strategically important
Guardsmen regiments mostly
Potentially marines
dense mortar
So in what manner are Marines used?
ground warfare, special operations, counter offensives?
arctic talon
Spearhead forces
They’re shock troops
They can be used as spec ops
But they’re primarily shock troops
dense mortar
So if I am a regular Guardsmen, and I see a squad of Space Marines drop pod in, in the middle of a fire fight. What am I thinking?
gloomy citrus
*fuck*
That's what you would say if the drop pods had spikes and weird symbols on them.
arctic talon
No
You’d still say fuck lol
Bcs if marines show up
Something has gone wrong
In a best case scenario the guardsmen will win the battle
gloomy citrus
That's certainly true if a specific chapter, like the Black Templars jump in.
near wasp
Itd be like seeing a literal angel desend to help in your darkest moment
dense mortar
Are space marines worshipped in any sense? As almost offshoots of the emperors primarchs
gloomy citrus
Are space marines worshipped in any sense? As almost offshoots of the emperors ...
Do people worship angels?
dense mortar
Do people worship angels?
Well, yes they do.
gloomy citrus
Of course, there is a difference between the chapters.
Some chapters like the Salamanders can be beloved.
sleek wigeon
everyone cheers for the drop pod til it's black templars or dark angels
sleek wigeon
that's when you know it's about to suck the emperor's mighty golden balls
gloomy citrus
Or if it's the Grey Knights.
dense mortar
everyone cheers for the drop pod til it's black templars or dark angels
Explain
sleek wigeon
Explain
you have the jehovahs witnesses (templars) and the mindwipe enthusiasts (angels)
at least its not the drukhari though
dense mortar
So I guess the implication is, that they dont really care about teh guardsmen and will exterminate anything in the combat zone?
gloomy citrus
at least its not the drukhari though
Or the Emperor's Children.
sleek wigeon
So I guess the implication is, that they dont really care about teh guardsmen an...
that's more grey knights but yeah, close enough
dense mortar
Ok, I guess its specifc to the chapter, as each chapter carries its own reputation with it. What if it were. . . say the Space Wolves?
gloomy citrus
They're wild cards, as far as I know.
dense mortar
Wild card meaning unorthodox fighters. Dont really follow the codex. Or wildcards meaning, they dont particular care
gloomy citrus
And do the Wolves follow orthodox patterns?
dense mortar
According to my Space Wolf omnbus, of which I am half way through, no they do not.