40k-lore-chat

[gloomy citrus]

And got Erebus to get Horus to undo many of his projects.

Not to mention the two sons who he sent to the backrooms.

[celest dome]

Even to the Primarch that turned alright he was mostly a dick
It's just that those were not needing a fatherly figure

[pulsar mango]

The emperor denied him his kill when saving his life from his doucebag adoptive father

Even tho HE SAVED HIS LIFE

[gloomy citrus]

My point exactly.

[pulsar mango]

Morty just never let that grudge go

Speaking of grudges

Perturabo

Man is just done with the universe

[gloomy citrus]

Though he tries to keep himself alive.

[open pumice]

Morty is a pos

[celest dome]

The Emp is a pos

[crimson kayak]

Me with Severan Dominate be like

[storm jungle]

Too soon

[crimson kayak]

Also: What's your favorite chapter

Picks an unknown chapter with nothing more than a single lore mention somewhere in 2nd edition

[open pumice]

Correct

[urban spire]

salamanders are the only good space marines

part of the community, not genetically awful people

[copper patrol]

bUt ElDaR ChIlDrEn

[urban spire]

what

[copper patrol]

fucken vulcan killing one

gets massively overblown and people bring it up a lot when people say salamanders are nice

[urban spire]

isn't he ten thousand years dead

[copper patrol]

maybe cause you know he is a perpetual, he also regreted it afterward

it was like

a violent outburst after the nightlords killed a close friend(preheresy)

[urban spire]

idk i'm gonna say there's not really a "good enough" excuse for murdering a child but again, dude's been gone for an extremely long time

[copper patrol]

for sure

and it was vulcan that did it not the salamanders themselves

the whole story iirc was the eldar (it wasn't jsut the teenager she is just the only one that lived until after) ran into a crowd of human civilians

and the nightlords just went

lol, lmao

and opened up on them

and in the crossfire killed a close friend of vulcans

and after the shooting stopped the teen was the only one left because the other eldar like shielded her or something

[urban spire]

yeah could definitely have just not killed the child there

seems like a pretty easy decision to make

i constantly don't kill children

literally every day

it's super easy

[copper patrol]

again, killing children is bad, but vulcan was seeing red after this so I can see what would have caused the outburst, not that said outburst was an acceptable thing (at least by our standards)

and the nightlord probably woulda kill them anyway

[urban spire]

having a better dad might have made the difference

[dusk patrol]

The Emperor didn’t make him kill the kid

[copper patrol]

emps was pretty decent to vulcan iirc

[signal bramble]

The primarchs wiped out several xeno species. Im sure that involved killing children.

[urban spire]

did the emperor ever say "son, don't kill children"?

[dusk patrol]

Did he tell Vulkan to kill that kid?

[copper patrol]

it was probably like

son don't kill human children

[signal bramble]

Besides what’s the big deal? Kids die all the time, it’s easy. Especially when you tie them to the back bumper of a car.

[dusk patrol]

Do you know the context of the scene?

[signal bramble]

And don’t read too much in to that statement.

[copper patrol]

remember it was a xenos

[dusk patrol]

The point being it’s more complex than Vulkan just BBQing kids and he breaks down after it

It’s more than the memelore of it

A lot leads up to it

[copper patrol]

it was also a xenos

and humans in 40k are very racist

[urban spire]

at the point where emps was trying to make an alliance with the eldar, i think maybe the xenophobia would be a bad call

[copper patrol]

the fact that vulcan felt really bad for killing a xenos teen

is like

insane compare to the other primarchs

[dusk patrol]

My only point is it’s a lot more complex a scenario than people make it, that doesn’t make it right or good but it’s a lot less simple than Vulkan just blasting Eldar kids as it’s made out

[copper patrol]

the main explination was that people like to meme on the salamanders overall

[urban spire]

idk i'm gonna say you always have the power to not kill children

[copper patrol]

when people say they are nice

and be like

ElDaR cHiLdReN

[urban spire]

salamanders are still cool

relatively cool

[dusk patrol]

You know it’s possible for it to be wrong and also not simple right?

[crimson kayak]

everyone proceeds to forget how orbital bombardment doesn't save women and children

[dusk patrol]

Like the point of the scene is Vulkan thinks it’s wrong and shit got way out of hand

[copper patrol]

also this is in 40k terms

[dusk patrol]

The issue is 99% of the fanbase never even read the scene

[copper patrol]

so a lot of stuff that is morally right be our ideals

[dusk patrol]

Don’t even know what it’s from

[copper patrol]

aren't by thiers

like if this was the lion or something, he wouldn't have given a single fuck

[urban spire]

siblings i am not being serious, i do not care what vulkan did 10k years ago, it has very little bearing on my current opinion on salamanders

if there's anything to criticise the salamanders for it's for using incendiaries a lot more than strictly necessary

[dusk patrol]

Well they have to keep to branding

[copper patrol]

[open pumice]

Ok but can you look me in the eye and tell me they don't play golf with crozius' and eldar children

they are still xenos, and salamanders are still emotionally stunted murder machines

I would doubt their effectiveness as space marines if they wouldn't

You think that the eldar children scene is blown out of proportion because it makes vulkan look bad

I think the eldar children scene is blown out of proportion because it's what any self respecting space marine should do

We are not the same

[winter vessel]

was there a story how some guardsmen discovered an STC by accident and were rewarded by being given their own individual planet?

[storm jungle]

Its not a story but uh

its more a side-mention in a Gaunt's Ghosts book

[winter vessel]

and the STC database on it was just for a combat knife used by Astartes...yep! Heroes of the Imperium I'll say.

[storm jungle]

They are enjoying their sanctioned servo-martinis as we speak

🍹

[vale shuttle]

Iirc the combat knife was used by the Guard as well

but that's just needless pedantry

[winter vessel]

I can just imagine what went through their heads, yesterday you were just a standard grunt doing some scout work. All of a sudden you're a planetary governor. But I understand finding an STC is like highly valued.

[vale shuttle]

any usable and uncorrupted STC is just immensely valuable

since the only way the Imperium can rapidly advance is by finding them

an STC for a slightly better knife is 100% worth at least a planet. maybe more.

but i doubt those guardsmen would complain about their payment

[signal bramble]

I find it more funny as it being this huge horrible thing when that’s pretty mild by 40k standards.

[crimson kayak]

also let's forget how the surviving civilian population of the planet was herded into Xeno-collaborator camps

[vale shuttle]

basically vulkan is just as much as a bastard as the rest of the primarchs he just has a better PR campaign

[crimson kayak]

he is, just not nearly as often

[vale shuttle]

true

[winter vessel]

No one is ever really considered good, everyone is horrible for something in 40k. At the very least, Vulkan and the Salamanders hold the title of 'The Lesser of MANY EVIL factions" in the universe. The Lamenters, for all the hell they've been through, I consider to be a beacon of hope for the Imperium cause all it would take is a declaration of converting to Chaos, but they have not break.

[odd palm]

I would argue that the Orders Hospitaller are far lesser evil than transhumans who's whole purpose is to kill. By that standards of the astartes they are gentler, not by much tho

[crimson kayak]

also he did order a full cleanse of an entire planet of norturne descendants and eldar exodites

[odd palm]

arguably the raven guard or some of their descendants are gentler due to their doctrine. Opting for subtlety and precision over bulldozing your way through the enemy

[winter vessel]

Are they the ones who field the use of Lightning claws more when compared to other Astartes Chapters?

[vale shuttle]

yes if i recall!

i just checked, the raven guard have their own special pattern the aptly named "Raven's Talon" and there is also a special lightning claw called the "Raven's Talon" just to be confusing that was made by corax

loyalists have the wolverine-style claws and chaos use the finger-style claws

(i love lightniing claws if it wasnt obvious lmao)

[odd palm]

Night Lords and Raven Guard love their claws

[storm jungle]

Half the reason they are acquisitioned by other Imperial parties is because they are very good at torture and keeping people alive so

[odd palm]

The job must be done by someone, who better than a doctor?

But still a lesser evil than those two astartes chapters

[storm jungle]

I dunno man

bombing civilians seems like a pretty good gig

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/373256424068874260/1078681796163686450/image0.jpg?width=622&height=622

[odd palm]

A small price to pay for success

[open pumice]

Your also not supposed to really argue about who is the least evil, its pedantic at best. This is a setting about bad people doing needlessly bad things that are completely unreasonable and unjustifiable

Trying to find the good guys of 40k, or trying to find the "least bad guys" of 40k is missing the point entirely

[open pumice]

Imo, one of the few bad parts about BL doing so many Space Marine stories for 40k, is they've gotten a noble knight syndrome.

Space marines need to act a lot more evil imo, see my above comment about eldar children

[winter vessel]

Oh I get that, no one is good in 40k at ALL. Mine is biased on an Imperium standpoint:/scale. As an optimist for anything I have interest in, it’s just a habit of mine.

[uneven temple]

that veers too far into grimderp, and the misery/horror porn debacle that was death of hope. wew lads was that bad

[open pumice]

Death of hope was bad for so many reasons

It wasnt particularly well animated it didnt have a coherent story and it was, as you said, just horror porn

Good animation thats still grimdark is Astartes

[open pumice]

I think the biggest thing with death of hope is they were trying too hard to fight something that really didnt exist. This was around the time of warhammer adventures, those effectively childrens 40k books, and so there was this thought going around that GW was going to basically advertiser/family-friendly warhammer (which they definitely didnt, they just grounded alot of its more extreme concepts). Death of hope was supposed to be rebelling against that and just became mediocrely animated horror porn.

[astral whale]

Misery porn.

[astral whale]

Tbf… there needs to be more Xenos factions.

[open pumice]

No there should he one minor xenos faction in a book called the greater good

The tau should be in there, and then just a bunhc of the other minor xenos that we see every once and a while like jokaero or ambulls

[astral whale]

I mean there are tens of thousands of Xenos in the galaxy and there are only a handful of prominent ones?

Like.

C‘mom.

[viscid basin]

I kind of find it funny WH40k is ironically less willing to do orbital bombardment because its a ground based genre and its or. bombardment is less precise than Star Trek.

With improved mass teleportation and precision orb bombardment, they’re far more willing yo wipe out civilizations authorized at the ship captain level

Ship focused series, better orb bombardment precision means more willing to go ham on it as a solution

[viscid basin]

No nut november guy eh? /s

every SM armor is their coffin regardless

[urban spire]

not a guy, and no

non-stop nut november for me, please

[urban spire]

apothecary just waves the tech marine over to staple on some extra plating and a life support suite

[open pumice]

I mean, there used to be plnety of prominent ones

see: great crusade for more details

You have to remember technically the imperium owns a solid 75% of the galaxy, and at one point that was more like 95%

Pmuch the only xenos in our galaxy to have made it past the great crusade are the Aeldar. The Necrons weren't around (though they would have undoubtably made it through aswell) and the tau didn't exist yet. The nids were not from our galaxy

Pre great crusade there were plenty of aliens mucking about

[chilly creek]

Orks?

[open pumice]

Ah yeah i forgor about them tbh

[urban spire]

humanity does not own 75% of the galaxy, humanity CLAIMS the entire galaxy and occupies a small fraction of it

you can find humans in any part of the galaxy, but you will not find humans in, say, 75% of star systems, or 75% of celestial bodies

[serene mist]

Because 75% of stellar bodies aren't worth the colonization effort

[crimson kayak]

for you says minor xenos faction 4274

[serene mist]

Shhhhhh

Filthy xenos lover

[crimson kayak]

Anyhow, only info for saying the size of the imperium is that sometimes it's said they hold around a million worlds atleast

But those worlds are mostly spread out so you can't really draw a "border" of the imperium

Ench why all galaxy maps of the imperium are literally just the whole galaxy with important planets put on the front

[gloomy citrus]

Where's Isstvan?

[crimson kayak]

Dropsite Massacre Flashback ensues

[shadow plover]

In the galactic north, close to the halo stars

https://thehorusheresy.com/explore-the-galaxy

[lunar heron]

why is it called a data-interrogator and not a hacking-thingie?

and is it a servitor's skull they've made to pocket-size gadgets?

[near wasp]

The servoskull is called a data interrogator likely due to the process data interrogation.
Data Interrogation refers to the manual process of querying the source data for such purposes as investigating anomalies or confirming relationships between source entities.

[storm jungle]

Also it just sounds cool

"hacking-tool" is just very generic lol

[signal bramble]

Because it sounds more sci-fi and 40k that way.

[dense mortar]

So the people of Fenris live in pre-technological times, and certain people are selected to become warriors and Space Marines?

[dusk patrol]

Uh kinda

[chilly creek]

Either by a Wolf going round Odin style, or else yoinked from battle, ala the Valkyries

[crimson kayak]

Also considering servo skulls are actually skulls and not ai they technically are literally interrogating the data

[dense mortar]

Im a few chapters in the Space Wolves omnibus, and they really portray them as almost premitive Vikings

[crimson kayak]

A lot of chapters recluit from feral worlds

Or even death world sometimes

[dense mortar]

But it seems everyone on Fenris worships Russ

[crimson kayak]

I mean, worshipping a son of the emperor is still worshipping the emperor in our book

Emperor's Spear recluiting planet thinks that they are ghosts stealing children

[chilly creek]

That's because they (the Fenrisians) are, pretty much

[crimson kayak]

Technically marines don't even have to be in good relations with the recluiting world, if they want they could literally just steal the candidates

[dense mortar]

Interesting. I am sure the book will show me how they become Space Marines. But apparently the Space Wolves chapter is a carbon copy of the mentalitiy and characteristics of the tribesmen on Fenris

[chilly creek]

Rock up and steal some dudes for hypno-indoctrination

[dense mortar]

So they maintain their "Wolf Brother" mentality when they are conscripted

[crimson kayak]

Schola Tempestus style

[dense mortar]

Am I not looking in the right places, or is there a lack of fantasy art as it pertains to Warhammer? You can google just abotu any significant event in Wheel of Time or LOTR and find an artist rendition of it or a place. Does warhammer not have this?

[near wasp]

There are far to many battles to have art made of all of them

Even the death of a planet sometimes isnt a significant event

Barely a blip on the cosmic radar

[chilly creek]

You can probably find X vs Y artwork

But outside of certain large events, there probably isn't much

So it becomes a question of what you're after

[dense mortar]

Space Marines stomping mudholes and burning down star systems

[chilly creek]

Who's in the mudholes?

[topaz lynx]

Is it me or does the Cadia voiceover for Darktide seem more Vengeful than full of pride?

I just got finished listening to one of the Cadia audiobooks and there's a LOT of lines in here that if they hadn't known about already, I feel they'd use. Specifically "Cadia Stands!" it's like their moniker, but I've honestly haven't heard it through a single playthrough to level 30

Maybe it's just my voice trigger RNG hating me lol

[storm jungle]

Its a mix of both

A lot of people complained about the Cadian because he just won't shut the fuck up

Hes also more vengeful than prideful yeah thats the thing with him

he doesnt act like a soldier too much and more like a tryhard

[topaz lynx]

My message got yeeted lol but yeah I can see it being kind of campy, but I don't hate it really. I just wish there were more lines, or even some cheap dlc replacements to switch to or something

I really like the VOs though, I don't mind the frequency

[storm jungle]

Yeah I have grown to like the Cadian but I don't blame people for disliking him.

Its an entirely fair opinion

[topaz lynx]

Right on

Everyone has different tastes/to each their own, no shade

[storm jungle]

And yeah the voicelines are a bit problematic tho as you say, the burden of having 21 actors doesn't help

compared to just like... 5

[topaz lynx]

Yeeeeah lol that's big fair

That "Cadia Stands!" just hits different y'know?

Does "Cadia Stands!" get sparkles?

HA

[gloomy citrus]

Failbaddon.

[topaz lynx]

Scrubbadon

[storm jungle]

My favorite voiceline has to be when hes downed

YOU ARE GONNA LEAVE ME TO DIE?

JUST LIKE MY PLANET?

Gets gang-beaten to death

https://tenor.com/view/the-shield-dean-ambrose-seth-rollins-roman-reigns-bo-dallas-gif-10361076

[rich patrol]

I've been wondering what makes sisters of battle so strong

They're not genetically modified like the golden boys or have artificial organs like the primach simps

yeah they have power armor, but that doesn't explain why naked sister repentia are just as strong

[topaz lynx]

They're not genetically modified per se, but they do use high tech weaponry/armor that augments their battle capability. On top of literal fanatical devotion paired with cybernetics for a constant flow of adrenaline, which even in real world contexts allows for (some) superhuman feats

[storm jungle]

^

They basically get elite-tier gear

Also are more or less a shock-combat army that drives into the enemy with heavy firepower/armor

[topaz lynx]

Overwhelming force, burning in both determination and weaponry

[storm jungle]

Yeah basically imagine the Guard but not as numerous but more hard-hitting

[topaz lynx]

And y'know, everybody likes a good combat stim 😉

[storm jungle]

Repentia are suicide troops

when a person is charging at you with a giant chainweapon yelling at the top of their lungs they are just going for it

So they arent THAT OP

[topaz lynx]

Look at the Eversore. No where near the level of a Space Marine, yet to subtle genetic manipulation, which is also done to the Sisters of Battle, their bodies can be shaped into living manufactorums of the stimulants needed to overcome and overwhelm

Granted, not to the extent of an Eversore. A sister of battle won't Last Laugh you when she dies

[storm jungle]

Yeee

but thats mostly the gist of it

[topaz lynx]

they do good burny stuff

[signal bramble]

Probably because they’re crazy and have a giant two handed chainsword.

Also not all repentia are like that. It’s why anchorites are a thing.

[storm jungle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1005083131939934218/1032414452643008572/unknown.png?width=705&height=518

[topaz lynx]

I actually have all of the Warhammer Decks and Sisters of Battle have some insane abilities lol

(That's the art for one of the cards)

[gloomy citrus]

They look like they just landed on a Nurgle world.

[storm jungle]

Whys that

[topaz lynx]

It's Necrons 😮

[gloomy citrus]

They're kinda pale.

And the sister on the left looks a bit green.

[storm jungle]

Thats kinda how Caucasian people are

and for the left sister thats just shadow/shading

[dense mortar]

My only issue with the Space Wolves are they are CLEARLY written with Viking or norse mythology in mind, even down to the naming mechanics. Not that there are anything wrong with that mythology or names, but it takes me out of the universe because I keep think of Ragnar Lodbrok everytime I read Ragnar Thunderfist

[astral whale]

Wolf Wolf Wolf Wolf Wolf Wolf and Wolf is all I see out of the Space wolf naming mechanics

[gloomy citrus]

Furries.

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/space-wolves-magnus-the-red-40k-warhammer-warhammer40k-gif-22331444

[open pumice]

Wait till you find out that the dark angels are all named after biblical dark angels

or that perterabo's home world is called olympia

or that the great crusade straight up used the roman naming standard for their legiones lmao

[dense mortar]

So the writers didnt dig very deep for a lot of the ideas in this world im taking it

[chilly creek]

No

[open pumice]

Go read dune: the god emperor

it's like the 4th book in the dune series

it's not very good

but like go read that

and then read any 40k book

[chilly creek]

For example, Lion El'Johnson is named after Lionel Johnson, a poet who wrote a poem called The Dark Angel

[open pumice]

.

Sanguinius

Of the blood angels

Ferus manus, whos name translates to iron hands, who is known for having iron hands, who leads a legion known as the iron hands

@dense mortar 40k really likes on the nose naming

mostly

because ti was originally written as a satircal parody of thatcher era england

so the naming dind't have to be like

good

[near wasp]

Gazkull is also a thatcher reference

[open pumice]

Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka

[near wasp]

Yeah i dont speak ork

[open pumice]

i'm just posting his full name

the resemblance is a bit stretched

but it's there

Fantasy is even better

the naming convention for fantasy is "What is it, and who does it belong too"

Crown of nagash, reikland runefang, etc

[gloomy citrus]

Fits in with his job.

But not the desired career.

[crisp heath]

Tbf Ragnar isn't the most popular name anymore but it was still used as a given name before Vikings came out

[south gorge]

The entirety of 40k is political satire I'd argue.

[urban spire]

tbf if you tell an eversor to kill a space marine

the eversor will immediately kill you

BUT

if you had the authority to get the thing hypno indoctrinated with its target or whatever, it would most definitely result in a dead space marine

[sleek garden]

https://tenor.com/view/fall-of-cadia-cadia-battlefleet-gothic-gif-25242351

[dense mortar]

Are those fireworks? Some sort of celebration?

[sleek garden]

yeah 👍

after the big celebration they all went home and slept really well

[odd palm]

Ah, you love to see it

[copper patrol]

they coulda stopped the blackstone fortress if they used the bulwark's shield

[open pumice]

No

[near wasp]

Cadia is not a bunch of fireworks. Why i outa!

[open pumice]

That's what it is

[near wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-bark-gif-20068634

[open pumice]

thats not an argument thats just a fact

[urban spire]

at this point if blowing up my planet would get me a full nights sleep, i'm not saying i'd do it, but i'd stop and think for a while before saying no

[dense mortar]

Slowly, the married couples were coming out to join in the dancing. Dogs barked. Geese honked. Goats bleated. The festivities stirred them up like nothing else could

<Me thinking, OH JOY! I have found a pocket of hope in the Grim Dark. A place where people can truly live peacefully and happily, away from the horrors of the universe>

.... literally ONE paragraph down, in the same festival.

Strybjorn needed no more provocation. He lashed out with his axe. There was a horrid sucking sound as the blade bit home and then was withdraw. Strybjorn lashed out again, feeling warm blood spurt out the man's body that fell at his feet. He pressed forward into the bodies.

[near wasp]

[near wasp]

We warned you about this.

[rose thorn]

Like 2 models away from finishing my dark Angel veteran Tactical marine killteam

If only I liked dark angels

[near wasp]

Then why did you biuld them

[rose thorn]

Because I had the kit and I’m burning through. My pile of shame

Some of the bits make good word bearer bits

[near wasp]

Are you at least gonna do something cool with them or they just gonna rot on a shelf unpainted

[rose thorn]

I’m annoyed that they are the best looking space marines I have lmao

As I haven’t built my CSMs lol

When I get home I’ll send pic

[open pumice]

You should read know no fear, it has a perfectly wholesome and happy tech priest couple that does not at all end in tragedy and have aome amazingly tragic emotional beats :)

[rose thorn]

Only 2 tactical marine fighters left

Left is gunner with plasma, then Sargent, then fighter, then heavy gunner with heavy bolter

[crimson kayak]

Multiple and multiple times in fact

[crimson kayak]

I want to make a far sight gue'vesa kitbash for my killteam so bad but I'm still hoarding the necessary money

[rose thorn]

AH DAMN last month GW's free model was a guardsmen

[crimson kayak]

Damn it

[rose thorn]

im pretty sure on ebay you can get a human had fo rlike

2 dollars

or buy someone's old guard head model

old guard model

honeslty a deptest scion ehad would look baller

OH YEAH FEET

they cant have hooves lol

[crimson kayak]

Lol, ench why I'm most probably kitbash the guards with tau stuff

[rose thorn]

lmao some of these pirces are fucked

[crimson kayak]

also looking at that combat patrol with the new farsight

[rose thorn]

cant wait to make the new guard combat patrol into GSC!

[crimson kayak]

Honestly I'm on a love hate with the new cadians

[rose thorn]

now guard players get to be primarised!

[crimson kayak]

On one hand yay space ww2 murrica, on the other some models seems to be a weird in-between from old
guard armor and new guard

[echo vault]

Trying to make a praetor weapon have lore being a custodes weapon but some balance since it's used by a marine:

Pyrithite Destructor (twin linked pyrithite gun) "Death of Stars"
Smaller than custodes weapons to fit scale
Uses more common melta fuel

[crimson kayak]

I mean isn't Asterion spear already a custodes weapon or something?

[echo vault]

It'd be like this with melta nozzles, and more wings and filigree

[crimson kayak]

You could use one of the flying custodes pistols and use that as a base

[echo vault]

The kinetic destroyer? Sure! There's ones attached to staffs too

[crimson kayak]

Yep, that one

It's more revolver like, but it's manageable

[echo vault]

My praetor is first captain Julius kaesoron so they have some privilege due to being the top EC praetor

So they can get fancy guns

Just maybe a noise gun

An underslung blast master

More mechanical than fancy due to prototype

[arctic talon]

It’s a guardian spear

But not all guardian spears are custodes

[rose thorn]

Finished!

I barely know any da lore

But eh these guys are baller

also im 90% sure i fucekd up all the heardly

heardry

OH WRONG CHAT

whoops sorry

[open pumice]

Adrasite spear and yes

[open pumice]

You mean adrasite, pytherite guns are meltas

[open pumice]

this is an adrathic destructor

I'm pretty sure what your looking for is a disintigrator

which rules and models for already exist

[rich patrol]

Well we can wield the eviscerator but we're nowhere near as strong

After seeing a sister heal her hand in the cinematic by praying I think sororitas is strong because of magic

[signal bramble]

It's not magic it's faith.

[rich patrol]

Don't really know the distinction in 40k universe

They train to pray so hard that miracles starts to happen at will

[storm jungle]

Its magic, don't worry about it.

The term "psychic" just gets thrown around because its a sci-fi setting when actual sorcery exists

[rich patrol]

I just wish there's a imperial guard cinematic, since you only see marines and SOB once every blue moon

[storm jungle]

Cinematic?

[crisp heath]

A sister in the Pariah Nexus is basically Jesus, don't worry about it

[rich patrol]

The guard held the line for 10000

[open pumice]

The distinction is in the fact that i dont have yo roll a psychic check when using sororitas stuff

[storm jungle]

Eh same thing

i dont really care much about the tabletop so YEET

[open pumice]

I mean yes rhey are "magic"

But they are different from the settings inate magical system

That is to say psykers

[rich patrol]

Yeah like a series similar to angels of death

[open pumice]

@rich patrol the only practical difference is that praying super hard doesnt get you killed sometimes

[storm jungle]

I'd say stick to fan animation

[open pumice]

I wouldnt lmao

[storm jungle]

I would

theres good stuff out there lmao

better than half the stuff on WH+

[open pumice]

I just wouldnt pay.for WH+

[rich patrol]

A cadia movie would SLAP

[storm jungle]

If you want that just go play Cutthroat

just like Cadia

(:

[open pumice]

Most fan anination is ok

[rich patrol]

I can imagine the climax of the flim when the planet cracks open

[open pumice]

Its good in ita own right, but tends to be short and not have much story to it

[storm jungle]

I mean

its made by fans

and not a studio

[open pumice]

The only major counter example I can think of is Astartes

[storm jungle]

so not really their aim to start with

[open pumice]

Yea

Which is rad

[storm jungle]

Actually i say this

but like

[open pumice]

And they do good work

[storm jungle]

the ones made by actual studios on WH+ suck ass too

Angels of Death more like Angels of Shaky Cam and Awkward Mocap

[open pumice]

I mean for a company that explicitly doeant do animations or videography of any kind

Theyve come out good imo

[rich patrol]

Angels of death hints at second season when they stuffed their captain in a sarcophagus

Hopefully it will be better

[open pumice]

Angels of death was OK

[storm jungle]

Ah yes more of this, I can't wait

https://tenor.com/view/adam-koralik-koralik-adam-shaky-shaky-cam-gif-20905868

[open pumice]

it wasn't terrible and told a cohesive story that didn't make me want to die

There was definitely alot left to be desired

especially in combat scenes

[storm jungle]

It was basically another marine wank animation

so not much beyond it sadly

[open pumice]

but being their first actual series other than hammer and boltor

(which gets too much shit IMO, hammer and boltor was rad)

[rich patrol]

The thing that pissed me off is how weak the dreadnought was

[open pumice]

telling a cohesive story is an important bridge to cross

[crisp heath]

I'm actually really excited for the Pariah Nexus, not in the least because every Ultramarine in the trailer is dead lol

[storm jungle]

I got faith in that

because uh

[open pumice]

the Pariah Nexus looks good

[storm jungle]

its cleraly made by the guys that did the 9th edition trailer

[open pumice]

getting more necron stuff is rad

[rich patrol]

It was supposed to be a walking tank but it was ripped apart by normal enemies

[storm jungle]

I dont even remember what happened in that scene

did it eat any rockets

[rich patrol]

I don't think so it just got swarmed

[storm jungle]

Eh close enough

they hit him with the Dawn of War strat

never fails

[open pumice]

Everything in 40k is supposed to be nigh indestructible, until the plot or the gameplay demands otherwise

[rich patrol]

I don't care if it got swarmed if everyone in this discord server 30,000 people swarmed an m1 abarams we'd all be dead

[open pumice]

I had a bunch of custodes kill a fuckin battlewagon with daggers

[rich patrol]

We're not gonna rip apart an abarams with our hands

[storm jungle]

You really underestime what 30,000 people against a tank can do

[open pumice]

yeah like

15-30 guys and a grenade beats a tank crew with relative consistency actually

[storm jungle]

^

Its the same as how GSC use advanced mining equipment made to destroy diamond-hard ores and can kill astartes and other elite Imperial units no problem

[rich patrol]

The dreadnought in the flim got swarmed by like 8 people

[open pumice]

this isn't a game thing, this is just something the US has learned thru IRL experience

[storm jungle]

Thats just bad movie making

id say ignore it

[open pumice]

the plot said he needed to die

[storm jungle]

Its basically the knight getting shot by an arrow through the visor thing

[open pumice]

refer back to this comment

[open pumice]

A marine in a good position is a deadly ass weapon lmao

[storm jungle]

Rockgrinder saw goes brrrrr

[rich patrol]

And how do they obtain consent for putting someone in a dreadnaught

[open pumice]

they dont

this is explicitly stated

[versed ledge]

What's consent for a space marine?

[open pumice]

not that it maters

[open pumice]

the first thing you need to do, stop considering space marines as people

they are more tools than people

[crisp heath]

Most dreadnoughts fucking hate being dreadnoughts

[storm jungle]

They can either choose to die or be forcefully entombed.

It depends on the Chapter, some see it as an honor, some see it as damnation, and some can just ask to be killed.

This is the most general and correct answer.

[rich patrol]

Da hell you fight and give your life and after you die a glorious death they use your corpse for fighting again

[storm jungle]

Again, depends on the Chapter

you can just ask them to kill you

[open pumice]

Do you stop using an effective hammer, because the handle splinters?

[signal bramble]

It doesn't work that way. Being chosen to be a dread is an honor in the eyes of the marines.

[open pumice]

this is a rarity

[storm jungle]

Nah its not

as usual "it depends"

Most dreads are just forced into their position because it makes for better drama/writing

[rich patrol]

In this case the hammer is in pieces and is dead

[open pumice]

from the chapters we have lore on, most of the time it's not a choice thing, its a "we need a walking tank, so your going in the walking tank machine"

[storm jungle]

and yeah most people I know will just get a new hammer

[signal bramble]

They're taught that being put in a dread is for the wise and dedicated marines that want to honorably serve the chapter.

[storm jungle]

Theres just way too many answers for a definine one.

[signal bramble]

So it's more likely they'll view it as an honor rather than a punishment.

[open pumice]

ok but you can upgrade that hammer to carry a multi melta and heavy plasma destroyer

[storm jungle]

Or you can just be a hellbrute

[open pumice]

this is an upgrade

[storm jungle]

that ends well

: )

[crisp heath]

A big theme with a lot of the life support tech is that if someone is so damaged that they should realistically be dead, they aren't going to be too happy that you're stopping them from being dead

[rich patrol]

So only in death does duty end, except when you do your duty so well you are forced to serve after death

[storm jungle]

Its a matter of perspective really

[open pumice]

your not dead

get in the life support system

[versed ledge]

I never understood why the guard never just breed ogryns in test tubes to use as a primary infantry unit

[open pumice]

your duty aint finished

[storm jungle]

Because plot

its the same as how everyone doesnt get power armor

[open pumice]

they're unreliable

[storm jungle]

even tho Sisters get them in millions

[crisp heath]

Wraithguard are barely even sentient and they aren't really happy in their more lucid moments, so at least dreads are conscious enough to suffer consistently ❤️

[storm jungle]

theres excuses but in the end its just plot

[versed ledge]

Or use the same methods the krieg use to increase their number (test tube gestation)

[rich patrol]

And what about the black rage? Do blood angel dreadnaught go crazy?

[storm jungle]

Yes

[open pumice]

ye and its rad

[storm jungle]

its hilarious

about as funny as a wulfen dreadnought

literally no logic behind it

[open pumice]

sometimes the psykers do it aswell

[storm jungle]

but it exists

and its funny af

[rich patrol]

Crazy friendly fire dreadnaught doesn't sound fun

[storm jungle]

Yeah its not

but it could be a werewolf dreadnought

[crisp heath]

There's even a unique Death Company Dreadnought mini

[storm jungle]

so pick your poison

[open pumice]

several

[uneven temple]

just turn the dreadnought off 5head

[open pumice]

just stick them on the enemy and forget to pick them up later

[storm jungle]

You gotta reach the ON/OFF button first

https://tenor.com/view/feelings-on-off-switch-gif-12183036

[open pumice]

it's done remotely

[uneven temple]

one of those techpriests dendrites finally found a usage

[storm jungle]

fr fr

[open pumice]

the dreads have internal systems that go

nappy wappy time

and put the 'naught to sleep

[rich patrol]

After 10000 years they still haven't fixed the black rage bug

[open pumice]

I mean, it's incredibly effective to have an angry dreadnaught running around

[crisp heath]

Me, an innocent Eldar, seeing a big black box on the horizon screaming about horses

[echo vault]

I'm making the pyrithite destructor a weapon it doesn't exist yet! But it's not impossible to exist

[storm jungle]

Just shoot it with a D-Cannon

its not that hard

[echo vault]

Because melta things fit with terminators

[open pumice]

your just making an inferno pistol or melta gun

[echo vault]

So?

[open pumice]

a pytherite weapon is just a melta gun

actually

it's a worse melta gun

[echo vault]

It's like a plasma blaster

[open pumice]

no
it's a melta gun

[echo vault]

Where it's 1.5x the plasma

It's equivalent to the plasma blaster, melta blaster

[open pumice]

whut are you on about

[rich patrol]

Warhammer is truly a gold mine for film makers

[echo vault]

Idea

Weapon idea for the character

[storm jungle]

Warhammer is a goldmine for MEMES

[rich patrol]

Idk why is it not as mainstream as star wars

[storm jungle]

Because its a tabletop game

[echo vault]

Newer

[open pumice]

it absolutely is not

[storm jungle]

and not that popular

[rich patrol]

Yeah it's not but it should be

[storm jungle]

Eh it depends

[open pumice]

becuase no studio will pick up an R rated scifi fil;m with no good guys

[echo vault]

You're confusing me I'm talking about a weapon that doesn't exist and what it's the same as and related to, and lore for this new weapon

[storm jungle]

They can tbh

40k's problem is its size

your average audience member wont give a shit about anything

[open pumice]

they can, but no major studio will

[rich patrol]

I think it transcended the tabletop and became something more

[storm jungle]

I know, as said above

[storm jungle]

It hasnt

[open pumice]

it's too small, to controversial

[crisp heath]

I was about to say "Dune" but "Dune" is pg-13

[rich patrol]

We have books, cinematics and games

[storm jungle]

Warhammer will always be a tabletop game

GW wants it that way

it makes them money

[open pumice]

why start with pytherite weapons then? i'm so confused

[storm jungle]

Its the same as how most people dont realise lore comes in 2nd or 3rd place

Its always the minis first

[crisp heath]

(and yes, the latest Dune adaptation was terrible and upholds the novels status as "unadaptable")

[storm jungle]

It was pretty great

the problem is DUNE is long

[open pumice]

you are on crack my good sir

the problem with dune

is only the first novel is good

and the second is passable

[rich patrol]

I would buy minis if they weren't so expensive

[open pumice]

everything after that is fucking awful

[storm jungle]

That Sardaukar battle ritual scene beats most 40k media and its like 2 minutes long

[crisp heath]

The first 3 are good, but each is only half as good as the one before it, and everything after that doesn't exist and you can't make me believe it does

[storm jungle]

to be fair

[rich patrol]

Not gonna max out my credit card trying to buy an imperial guard legion

[storm jungle]

Herbert was on shrooms when writing it

give the man a break

he was chilling

[open pumice]

the onyl dune novels worth reading are the first one, and the one labeld "the god emperor"

mostly because the latter is actually good for understanding 40k lore

[storm jungle]

Let him live his fantasies of a secret society of women breeding bloodlines for thousands of years

[crisp heath]

Anyway the movie doesn't have a 15 minute monologue about what happens if you shit your pants in the stillsuit so it's therefore vastly inferior

[echo vault]

Because adrasite is exclusively exclusively custodes

[storm jungle]

Also no minecraft looking personal shields

immersion ruined

[open pumice]

so is pytherite supposedly, it just happens to be a shit ass god awful melta gun

[echo vault]

So the other equivalent energy weapon for custodes is the pyrithite

[storm jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/dune-1984-shield-gif-18397416

[rich patrol]

But yeah they aren't gonna be showing chainsaws in action to little kids that's bad PR

[uneven temple]

Dune: Roblox

[echo vault]

The rules suck but it's more about the lore

[storm jungle]

Just

use

a

melta

[open pumice]

your making up more custodes lore than actually exists for these weapons

there is

no lore

[rich patrol]

What the hell is a melta anyway I've only seen SOB using it

[open pumice]

for pytherite wapons

[versed ledge]

Are meltas even effective?

[storm jungle]

yes

[open pumice]

thye have never appeared in a book

[storm jungle]

LMAO

[open pumice]

yes

[storm jungle]

It literally shoots a concentrated heat ray

[echo vault]

It's potential but ultimately non canon lore

[crisp heath]

Also do not make Paul likable in any way, Paul is a little piece of shit and you should suffer every moment he is visible

[open pumice]

basically a really hot flame thrower

like

[open pumice]

really fucking hot

like

it shoots raw magma

hot

its also

[versed ledge]

Wow....but short range right?

[rich patrol]

Like a mining beam but weaponizrd

[storm jungle]

observe the dreadnaught on the top right

[open pumice]

@echo vault NOT AN ENERGY WEAPON

[storm jungle]

its cheese

[open pumice]

yes

ahem

8" table top

[echo vault]

Specialist weapon that shoots heated studf

[open pumice]

USE A NORMAL MELTA

or a combi plasma

both of these re objectively better options than

"well this guy has a shit ass melta thats worse than anything else he could possibly use"

[echo vault]

It being pyrithite makes it fancy and fit the role of a first captain the highest rank marines

I'm the legions

[rich patrol]

Man I hope Warhammer goes more mainstream so there's more SOB fan art

[storm jungle]

Just make it mastercrafted

[open pumice]

THIS IS EVEN WORSE

[open pumice]

theres already too much

[echo vault]

My original idea was combi graviton

[storm jungle]

That also works

as usual just make sure you got a good excuse for it

[open pumice]

actually a good idea

[storm jungle]

like it being a gift from some forgeworld etc

[rich patrol]

Especially repentia with only essential cloth coverings

[storm jungle]

Not anymore

but the fans ignore that so

[open pumice]

Gift from the custodes in the time of the legiones? not a fuckin chance lmao

[echo vault]

I like it, I just like fancy gun but combi graviton I legit wanna see

[rich patrol]

How do they tank hits while naked

[storm jungle]

Yeah do not make it a custodes gift

custodes hate marines

[open pumice]

they don;t

they have faith in the emperor

[echo vault]

Kaesoron in the idea I have is the leader of the sunkillers

[open pumice]

who protects

[storm jungle]

Wait until the driver comes out and kill them

this happens in a novel

[open pumice]

based

[echo vault]

Sunkillers are energy weapon speckalists (las,plasma,volkite,melta,flamer)

[rich patrol]

We wield an eviscerator in game and we get 2 shot

Guess a zealot doesn't have emperahs protection

[storm jungle]

A heavy weapons squad damages a chimera, the driver crawls out and he just sees the 3 half-naked repentia towering over him before one kneels, puts his hand on her heart to make some prayer then chainsaws him

pretty neat

[versed ledge]

Also plasma weapons are in game too, though more of an anti-armor.role

[open pumice]

is this a custom chapter or a legiones astartes?

i.e. 40k or 30k

[versed ledge]

Hey "Faith and Fire" I remember that scene

[storm jungle]

Yeah its great

an oldie novel but still a classic

[echo vault]

Legion astartes special unit (like palatine blades, phoenix guard, kakophoni)

[open pumice]

for what legion lmao

[versed ledge]

Sucks it was imperials vs Imperials, damn shame the SOBs aren't keen on taking prisoners or diplomacy

[echo vault]

Emperor's children

[storm jungle]

Yeah i mean they are basically fascist nutcase nuns

[rich patrol]

SoB must be in incredible shape from hundreds of years of fighting

[storm jungle]

even if you surrender they will probably burn you ona wooden log

so might as well off yourself at that point

[open pumice]

why does it not surprise me

[storm jungle]

Its basically just athletic physique

but they get to eat actual food

and do lots of training

so better than Hiver Joe who looks like starving skeleton

[open pumice]

they also tend to not live hundreds of years

like for a start

[rich patrol]

Oh right cause they aren't modified

[open pumice]

especially repentia

[storm jungle]

They can get rejuv treatments

but thats mostly for like

[versed ledge]

But really what pushes a repentia to enter battle frenzy?

[storm jungle]

top brass Sisters

[open pumice]

well no it's more because they're frontline combatants

[open pumice]

drugs

[storm jungle]

Basically to want to redeem themselves

they are basically hammered to think they fucked up

[open pumice]

and also drugs

they're called "combat stimms"

[storm jungle]

also uhhh

[open pumice]

the SoB make

[storm jungle]

theres a big lady behind you

[versed ledge]

I believe the drugs part

[open pumice]

heavy use of them

[rich patrol]

But 40k technology should give you pretty good life span right?

[storm jungle]

theres also a worse woman behind you hitting you with whips

you either go kill the traitors

[rich patrol]

It's 2023 and we can expect to live 80+

[open pumice]

yes, but a long life spam doesnt solve boltor to the face

[storm jungle]

or taste the shock

[open pumice]

unfortunately 88% of these are terminal cases

[storm jungle]

[open pumice]

with rejuvenat treatments people can live up to about 500
but you need alot of money and to be in a position of decent power

[versed ledge]

True, but expect to enjoy life being mostly soggy and grumpy

[storm jungle]

EZ just be a custodes

🧠

problem solved

[versed ledge]

Which is why Rejuvenae treatment must be made IRL

[storm jungle]

I mean

it will be same as 40k

[open pumice]

live well over 5000 years as centurion longinus, be based

[storm jungle]

only rich people will get it

average joes like us get nothing

[rich patrol]

Oh and custodes have normal number of organs right?

[storm jungle]

Yes

[open pumice]

we dont know

we think so but like

[rich patrol]

They don't go through any surgery as far as I'm aware

[storm jungle]

Custodes are perfected through "gene-alchemy"

[open pumice]

we aren't specifically told either way

[storm jungle]

its left very obscure

[rich patrol]

They are literally built different

[open pumice]

correct

[storm jungle]

LITERALLY

compared to uh

the astartes process

where you learn everythig

down to the shit they take at this point

[open pumice]

as the stratagem goes
"Arcane Genetic Alchemy"

[storm jungle]

the best 40k writing

put "gene" on something

instant super-surgery

[rich patrol]

The ultimate result of thousands of years of eugenics

[storm jungle]

that too

[open pumice]

yeah the process of being a custodian is simple

step 1: be born rich, or to a major criminal leader on terra

step 2: let the wierd basement men touch you

step 3: become custode

[rich patrol]

Gene editing can happen after you're born??

[storm jungle]

Yes

Your parents basically need you offer you to the custodes on a special gate on terra as a baby

[open pumice]

yes, it exclusively does

[storm jungle]

unlike astartes you gotta be very young

[open pumice]

or you get stolen form your parents after they are brutally murdered

[storm jungle]

accidents happen 👀

[rich patrol]

You're gonna have to edit the gene of trillions of cells in your body tho

[open pumice]

yeah you aren't born a custodian

you become one

[open pumice]

and?

my man

we can teleport using hell itself

[storm jungle]

Its space-magic dont question

[open pumice]

thats easy

[versed ledge]

So who here would want to live in the imperium as a noble?
Say I

i

[rich patrol]

I thought they were crispr babies

[open pumice]

no

[storm jungle]

Bruh no dont do this to yourself

[open pumice]

you aren't born a space marine or a custodian

[versed ledge]

Why?

[storm jungle]

its literally living in Kowloon but make it an entire planet

[odd palm]

A small price to pay for Custodes and their ignorance

[storm jungle]

Terra has literally no clear surface

its all hives

imagine Coruscant but choking with smog

[open pumice]

Yeah terra sucks unless you a high lord or a custodian

[storm jungle]

^

[versed ledge]

But as a Noble, you get better treatment...just at the cost of inviting the ruinous powers and or pissing off the imperium

[storm jungle]

Yeah but like

as a noble you are also

• constantly udner threat

• everyone wants to kill you

[open pumice]

yeah until you get killed by an arbite who dind't know your name

[storm jungle]

Not even that honestly

being nobility sucks just as much

[open pumice]

or an assassin becuase you got to spiffy

[storm jungle]

^

The best job in the Imperium is being a rogue trader

[versed ledge]

Yeah....the imperium sucks for all, but sucks more for others

[open pumice]

or some inquisitor who expected you to be part of a slaaneshi cult

or a custodian because you took one to many steps in the direction of the eternity gate

[versed ledge]

Or a chaos entity who will literally eat your soul

[open pumice]

the list goes on

[open pumice]

fax

that is where the fun stuff is

[versed ledge]

Or gene stealer cultist because one got honey potted

[storm jungle]

Yeah being a rogue trader is really not that hard

just dont fuck up

or get kidnapped by aliens

$$$

[open pumice]

i mean it's hard in other ways

[storm jungle]

Yeah pretty much

as long as you dont go in over your head you're good

your job is literally being a privateer in space

aka do what england has done in decades

go colonize poor helpless humans

[open pumice]

Be rogue trader

make money
get bitches
avoid inquisiton
repeat

[storm jungle]

also that too

Its literally built like an RPG

do stuff

[open pumice]

yes

[storm jungle]

get recognition

get big women

[open pumice]

as a matter of fect

[versed ledge]

But a noble in an agri world sounds nice

[storm jungle]

get big money

[open pumice]

it is an rpg

[open pumice]

no it does not

[storm jungle]

Trust me yeah

farmworlds suck just as much

Some novels describe it really well

[open pumice]

agri worlds are worse

[versed ledge]

Finished reading "The Oubliette"
Almost forgot I was reading a 40k novel

[storm jungle]

that novel is great

[open pumice]

this is an agri world

[versed ledge]

I mean what's so bad about living in Georgian era england?

[storm jungle]

basically

[open pumice]

what you really want

[storm jungle]

The overuse of chemicals to constantly grow food-products, the constant gruelling harvesting of wheat literally destroys the soil

it has a lot

[versed ledge]

Okay, rogue trader or Gue'vesa it is then

[open pumice]

is to be the planetary governer of a paradise world in segmentum solar or in the 500 worlds

thats where the good life is

[storm jungle]

Yeah but lets be honest RG still the best

just get some trustworthy pals

and you are set

[open pumice]

yeah thats where the bitches are

[storm jungle]

also maybe find an STC along the way

like its literally Mafia City

https://tenor.com/view/level-up-dancing-victory-dance-happy-dance-transformation-gif-15004862

[open pumice]

find STC
get skitarii femboy bitches

simple as

[storm jungle]

the fact that you can get almost anyone as a crew member from the Imperium is great

literally only thing you cannot get is a Custodian pal

lmao

[open pumice]

Not just from the imperium

[storm jungle]

Sshhhhhhhh

[open pumice]

so long as the ordo xenos doesn't find out

[storm jungle]

okay true

[open pumice]

theres no limit to the amount of ass you can tap

[daring plinth]

I want our rejects to find an STC after defeating the big demon boi.

[storm jungle]

just write your own cannon on it

[open pumice]

eldar booty, tau booty, hell even ork booty if your into that sort of thing

[daring plinth]

So Hadron will reward me later in the crafting room 😉

[storm jungle]

they are called Freebootas for a reason

[open pumice]

fax

[versed ledge]

Hot take
Tzeentch and Slaanesh are chaos gods for rich people
But Nurgle and Khorne are for us average and or poor schmucks

[storm jungle]

Thats not a hot take

thats entirely true and in the lore

🤝

[open pumice]

nah

slaanesh doesn't care if your rich or poor

[daring plinth]

Nurgle should be more powerful lorewise then khorne. Everything's a shithole and there's no hope

[open pumice]

just if your willing to actively cum while being mowed down by boltor fire

[storm jungle]

Slaaneshy worshippers almost always tend to be nobility however

because just like IRL

rich people get bored

and do fucked up stuff

not even a joke

[open pumice]

yeah but theres also war, rage, and anger fucking everywhere

[versed ledge]

Ideally neither would care, but, @storm jungle , she's right

[storm jungle]

Yeah pretty much

also like

theres a reason i nthe game

the cultists look like homeless people

[open pumice]

true, but they bring all the poor people along with them in their bad decisions, just like real life

[storm jungle]

damn

[versed ledge]

Which game is that, because they all look like homeless people

[storm jungle]

AUGHH-

Also Darktide

was talking about the dregs

[open pumice]

ye

[storm jungle]

mfers walking around with footwraps

[open pumice]

was kinda sad it was nurgle again TBH

was hoping for like

[versed ledge]

Damn never noticed their foot wear

[open pumice]

khorne, or tzeench

slaanesh would have been fun, but hard to sell

[storm jungle]

Khorne is just generic daemon man

also tzeentch would just have people bitch

"WHY DID THIS ENEMY SPLIT INTO 5 MORE ENEMIES"

"BROKEN GAME"

[open pumice]

I was more or less hoping it would be different from vermin tide lmao

[storm jungle]

honestly its their second time using nurgle

if it was like 3rd/4th then id complain

[open pumice]

it's their 3rd

[storm jungle]

Vermintide 1 didnt have nurgle

[daring plinth]

Nurgle its the easiest for this kind of game

[open pumice]

didn't it?

[storm jungle]

Nope

[open pumice]

or am I on crack

[storm jungle]

it was ALL skaven

[open pumice]

aight

[storm jungle]

The rotbloods join on 2

[versed ledge]

At least Nurgle is something understandable. People don't want to die and want pain-pain go away

[open pumice]

it's only been a while

[storm jungle]

only been like 90 years

aka 2015

same thing

[open pumice]

it is

and I get why they went with nurgle and not like

[storm jungle]

the poxwalkers help a lot

[open pumice]

slaanesh

[daring plinth]

That and games workshop has pushed nurgle on the frontline since the plague wars lore

[storm jungle]

Yeah that too

[daring plinth]

so its ez to get the rights

[open pumice]

and they definitely did nurgle alot better than they did in V2

[storm jungle]

Slaanesh is doable, people just assume shes all about porn

compared ot like

[versed ledge]

If it's Slaanesh or Tzeentch we would be in a horror mystery game

[storm jungle]

skin-stretched fucked up hellraiser troops

Also yeah this

Slaanesh and Tzeentch arent like

"big horde army"

[open pumice]

important to note

[versed ledge]

They're more of the whispers in the back of your mind, hallucinations of love ones, memories being exploited

[open pumice]

fatshark is owned by another company

[versed ledge]

And eventually falling to the based of pursuits

[open pumice]

trying to sell an overly corperate company that as your bbeg

[storm jungle]

No thats just IRL

oh wait

[versed ledge]

Emperor preserve us all

[summer rover]

too twiggy. a true servent of the emprah wants some MEAT on them bones!

[crisp heath]

Well, finally going to read the Carcharodon novels to see if I really like the space sharks or if I like the idea of space sharks

[uneven temple]

robbie macniven's two books are great

unfortunate he went off to do other stuff, big sadge

[tiny sundial]

[crimson kayak]

Let's forget that we are in the setting where the main supersoldiers is used as a growing pod for his additional bazillion organs already

[crimson kayak]

Just play the battlefleet Gothic 2 intro for that

[crimson kayak]

At a certain point the tank would stop due to sheer amount of gore in its gears and stop moving.

The imperial guards considers this a tactical success.

[chilly creek]

The M1 isn't going far without it's logistics train

Simply wait for it to run out of gas/ammo and it's doing nothing

[crimson kayak]

just literally sit on it

[storm jungle]

Do the Indiana Jones routine

stuff a rock in its barrel

[short steeple]

Why do kriegsmen use Lucius pattern guns and not get their weapons from Graia, much closer to Krieg?

[celest dome]

"Beneath Krieg's blasted exterior entire subterranean cities had been founded, tens of thousands of miles of bunkers and passageways dug, and a vast underworld of industry and manufacture geared specifically to the production of arms and equipment, but most of all to the production of soldiers, soldiers who proved to be as implacable as the factory lines that armed them and as pitiless as their blasted radioactive world."

[short steeple]

Oh

That makes sense

[celest dome]

They have access/authorisation to Lucius Patterns Lasgun production

[short steeple]

Didn't think about that yeah

[versed ledge]

Do you guys ever get the urge to mercy kill the medicae servitor?

[near wasp]

No because he must continue to do his duty

[crimson kayak]

I mean, go on, you'll make a perfect substitute for it

[uneven temple]

[dense mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/drmanhattan-watchman-delete-erase-gif-4932378

This Big E and Horus?

[near wasp]

Pretty much

[little willow]

Are there any good books with the Sisters of Silence as the main character? I am reading through the heresy and found out after the Flight of the Eisenstein that i wanted to read more about them

[crimson kayak]

watchers of the throne has a SoS narrator

and it's set during 40k

[little willow]

Will add both of them to my reading list, thank you!

[urban spire]

tzaangor and slaangor

if you need a big horde of slaanesh or tzeentch

[celest dome]

Tzaangor and Slaangor are more Elites than lower horde

But all 4 Chaos Gods do make use of thralls that are just civies that are whipped into frenzy and then thrown into the battlefield

Like in VT2, the different units are either adapted or even created, though taking a lot of inspiration from the lore

[urban spire]

also i'd love some khornate rep

[celest dome]

As the game is gonna be a live service, I hope we will end up with the 4 Chaos God represented in the end

But each would start with some similar units (Bruiser, Stalker/Shooter, Gunner...) With exception when needed

And their own specials and stuff

[iron locust]

Putting in Tzeentch may have some difficulties they’d need to sort out, like a good corrupted environment

[celest dome]

Not all the maps are overly corrupted, and they already had a map where the different heroes saw different things in VT1 so I could see them do it again for a Tzeentch themed map (Or for Slaanesh)

[crisp heath]

Well, Valraks finally convinced me, even the WH youtube channel is lampshading how obvious it is the last Arks of Omen book is going to be The Lion

The new card is literally a Dark Angel, in a forest, fighting a chaos creature, and it's called The Knight.

The only rug-pull I can see is that it turns out to be Cypher or Luther, since they're characters we already know are big deals and as fallen they could be called "Fatherless Sons"