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#40k-lore-chat
dense mortar
coarse mirage
dense mortar
Oh yes, thanks. Need to visit there more often
dense mortar
Not all Daemons are evil:
I enter two pieces of evidence for the record
Euphrates Keeler and M'kar
Doing the work of Big E, which is unquestionably the work of righteousness and good.
remote loom
I'm still kinda new to WH40K, and I have a question on Purity Seals. What seal best fits this game's faction we play in Darktide please?
gloomy citrus
Corvus is pretty much a daemon.
storm jungle
I'm still kinda new to WH40K, and I have a question on Purity Seals. What seal b...
Only the Imperium uses purity seals
and every faction within it more or less
open pumice
Euphrates Keeler and M'kar
Yeah Euphrati Keeler isn't a demon, I think you mean celestine
dense mortar
Yeah Euphrati Keeler isn't a demon, I think you mean celestine
Yep, you are right.
open pumice
I'm still kinda new to WH40K, and I have a question on Purity Seals. What seal b...
There isn't a particular disctinction between each imperium factions purity seals
open pumice
For purity
storm jungle
Its in the name
gloomy citrus
But what does it purify?
open pumice
whatever you glue it too
gloomy citrus
Would something happen if one was somehow slapped onto a Death Guard marine?
storm jungle
No lol
open pumice
No
storm jungle
its just a parchment
storm jungle
so it wouldnt do much of anything
gloomy citrus
So its just a ruse made by the Inquisition/whoever is in charge of the Imperial Cult?
storm jungle
its mostly to show off the Imperium's superstition, that and it looks cool
open pumice
So its just a ruse made by the Inquisition/whoever is in charge of the Imperial ...
chaplains
they are dolled out by chaplains
storm jungle
So its just a ruse made by the Inquisition/whoever is in charge of the Imperial ...
Its not really a ruse
they just believe it works
its the same as us using censers IRL
it doesnt really do anything
its just ceremonial
open pumice
Your not being bamboozled
gloomy citrus
I wonder if that works the same as with Orks.
storm jungle
It doesnt
open pumice
your just getting wax glued to your gun
storm jungle
Orks "power of belief" is also memed to death
gloomy citrus
If it was, I would have laughed my ass off.
storm jungle
their belief power works more akin to psychic duct-tape
mostly for machinery and weapons
open pumice
It's also important to note that some draw spiritual strength from their purity seals
gloomy citrus
Orks "power of belief" is also memed to death
At this point, basically everything 40k-related is memed.
arctic talon
The censers are 99% of the time doing nothing
storm jungle
At this point, basically everything 40k-related is memed.
Eh kinda but also no
arctic talon
True
open pumice
i.e. space marines recanting the prayers on their seals will give them a burst of resolve
arctic talon
It makes a mechanicus workshop not smell like metal and oil
gloomy citrus
they also smell nice
How would you smell it among the battlefield? Especially if the enemy worships Nurgle?
gloomy citrus
They do look dope.
storm jungle
you're gonna rot to death the moment a death guard marine walks to you
a nice smell wont do much 
gloomy citrus
arctic talon
Or puke to death lol
storm jungle
arctic talon
Being around plague marines isn’t pleasant
gloomy citrus
Fucking Typhus.
gloomy citrus
Even in imperium bolter porn
The what, now?
arctic talon
And gross
open pumice
Fucking Typhus.
Typhus is based, Mortarion should have been less of a bitch if he didn't want to loose control of his legion
arctic talon
The what, now?
It’s when the book is 99% action
dense mortar
*Khârn grinned at the daemon, his eyes burning with an unholy fire. ‘I am a son of Angron,’ he said, and slammed his forehead into the daemon’s face.
The impact echoed through the chamber, and Khârn felt the daemon’s grip falter. He punched it with his free hand, hitting it again and again, tearing free of its grasp. The daemon staggered backwards, reeling from the attack, and Khârn followed it, bringing his chainaxe to bear.*
storm jungle
Bolter Porn is the fandom term for space marines doing generic actions/plotlines
arctic talon
And is very biased towards one side
storm jungle
yeah that
dense mortar
This man is just punching Daemons?
arctic talon
Yeah
storm jungle
This man is just punching Daemons?
Yes.
arctic talon
Kharn is built different
arctic talon
Yeah
open pumice
Kharn is based
gloomy citrus
Typhus is based, Mortarion should have been less of a bitch if he didn't want to...
They both fucking suck.
dense mortar
I need this book
open pumice
They both fucking suck.
Disagree, typhus is rad
i mean yeah he's a bad person
but he was written really pog
gloomy citrus
That's true.
storm jungle
Typhus pulled an Amogus on the entire Death Guard Legion, gotta respect the Nurgle venting hustle
arctic talon
Typhus is the weakest of the 4 god aligned chaos champions
Ironicially
He’s not stronger then Kharn, as good a dualist as Lucius or as potent a psyker as Ahriman
gloomy citrus
Lucius is a class of his own.
storm jungle
most people barely would know he exists unless you read 30k
arctic talon
Mortarion takes up a lot of attention yeah
storm jungle
or are a deathguard fan
arctic talon
Tbf grey knight players would know about typhus
gloomy citrus
Lucius is a class of his own.
He makes the Drukhari look pleasant if you'd ask me.
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Mostly since he uh
storm jungle
I mean
storm jungle
the stuff Emperors Children do are really not that extreme
that might just be me being bored against violence tho lol
open pumice
the stuff Emperors Children do are really not that extreme
Have you read fulgrim
arctic talon
The funny druhkari books are funnier
storm jungle
or the opera concert scene
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And by funny I mean it’s just torture
open pumice
"omg she used blood and shit to make a painting"
Respect the damn cum painting
gloomy citrus
The Emperor's Children turned out the worst.
storm jungle
And by funny I mean it’s just torture
Its great
storm jungle
The Emperor's Children turned out the worst.
To be fair
they were made of europeans
storm jungle
no this isnt a joke
Bile also literally came from Frankenstein's birthplace i think
which is the most meme lore ever
but Bile is a pimp so i like it
gloomy citrus
Then where did Saul and Rylanor hail from?
storm jungle
Fabius was born on Terra to Europan nobility. He spent at least part, if not all of his childhood in a region named Ingolstadt; potentially related to the Bavarian city but this is not expanded upon [12]. As a child, he learned the art of fleshcrafting from one of his families servants. Among his first experiments was modifying mice to duel each other in elaborate garb and was inconsolable when they disobeyed his orders and killed one another. Shortly after, he was inducted into the III Legion.
gloomy citrus
> Fabius was born on Terra to Europan nobility. He spent at least part, if not a...
Bavarian.
gloomy citrus
The 40k's version of Mengele.
open pumice
Man
arctic talon
40k mengele is urien rakarth
open pumice
the legion really saw bile putting alien organs in legionares and went
yeah thats cool, me next
storm jungle
"Ayo gimme some of that shit"
near wasp
open pumice
Saul Tarvitz is based
gloomy citrus
No one did much about Bile's shenanigans.
open pumice
And was also only a captain lmao
near wasp
"I hear you do strange things to your warriors"
open pumice
When even the primarch is like
"Thats cool"
theres not much some random captain can do
dense mortar
Do we know where the empeors armor came from? And why is lore so vague, and/or just simply not there, about the emperor? Like it or not, its very clear to me (a newcomer) that his is very central to the motivations of the universe.
dense mortar
Well this is the majority of peoples involvement in the franchise, is it not?
storm jungle
Ehhh idk
gloomy citrus
It is.
open pumice
Do we know where the empeors armor came from? And why is lore so vague, and/or ...
It's best to think of the emperor as a plot device, and not a person
storm jungle
This
arctic talon
The emperor is meant to be a vague background character
He’s never in the forefront
You aren’t meant to fully understand or sympathize with him
open pumice
Even in his own book, his story is told thru his custodians
gloomy citrus
You aren’t meant to fully understand or sympathize with him
The latter, especially.
remote loom
Okay, let me put it this way, what seal appears on our gear? I want to know so I can do some light cosplaying, please.
open pumice
Okay, let me put it this way, what seal appears on our gear? I want to know so I...
Make one up :)
honestly thats the solutioon
near wasp
The aquilla first and foremost
open pumice
there aren't specific purity seals
Find a prayer you like, and write it onto some parchment, hit ti with an oversized wax seal
skulls, aquillas, etc are common
storm jungle
^
arctic talon
Regiment symbols as well
open pumice
Okay, let me put it this way, what seal appears on our gear? I want to know so I...
there isn't exactly a standard code or other organization for a purity seal
near wasp
If you wanna really be a troll hide a chaos symbol in there. See if anybody notices
open pumice
they are highly personal
and are usually tailored toward the soldier by the regimental chaplain
gloomy citrus
If you wanna really be a troll hide a chaos symbol in there. See if anybody noti...
As long as it's not Slaanesh.
near wasp
Undivided all the way
gloomy citrus
That's the best Chaos option.
remote loom
If you wanna really be a troll hide a chaos symbol in there. See if anybody noti...
I know enough about the universe to know that is a serious troll.
near wasp
I mean its no better than youtube pranksters
open pumice
still waiting for nurgle to take a pass at corrupting the blood angels
so far every other god has made an attempt
(and failed)
gloomy citrus
And they will keep failing.
open pumice
Yes, because the sons of sanguinius are too based
gloomy citrus
Unless they enter the black rage.
open pumice
Never heard of it
Sounds like heresy to me
there are no black armored marines in the so called "death company" these are lies
gloomy citrus
What.
near wasp
The blood angels are not vampires. There are not death companies. There are no flaws with sangiunious
arctic talon
Why not
near wasp
I mean not like hes doing anything with it anymore
coarse mirage
why is calgars hand an emote
open pumice
Monch
dense mortar
So what are the chanes we see an animated warhammer movie?
near wasp
Low given how gw is but supposedly henry cavil will have a 40k show but its being funded by amazon so take that with a grain of salt
dense mortar
Low given how gw is but supposedly henry cavil will have a 40k show but its bein...
Live action or is he just voicing a character? Or do we even know?
And, further more, do you think Cavill has enough star power to bring warhammer from the fringes into mainstream?
near wasp
Honestly its all unknown at this time supposedly hell be an exc director, and honestly i just dont want 40k to be turned soft.
dense mortar
Cavill seems pretty comitted to source material of the stuff he does
I doubt he lets it go soft
That was a big reason he left Witcher wasnt it? They were straying to far from the source for his liking
near wasp
I mean by it being brought into the mainstream
arctic talon
40k isn’t soft tbh
Even with era indomitus
Setting is still terrible
If anything it’s gotten more harsh
For the average civilian lul
near wasp
When dark franchises have a light shown on them sometimes they go soft.
arctic talon
Eh
dense mortar
To appeal to a wider audience
near wasp
I hope they dont but theres always that fear
dense mortar
That would be Amazons second blunder with a fan favored franchise if they do
LOTR was not good
arctic talon
I hope they dont but theres always that fear
Eh
They’ll always Persue a steady flow of profit
Over a risk
dense mortar
At anyrate, you can bet it will be centered around Blood Angels or Salamanders, as Henry has stated those are his main factions
open pumice
So what are the chanes we see an animated warhammer movie?
there is one :)
it is bad :)
near wasp
Thats a lie. His main is custodes
arctic talon
At anyrate, you can bet it will be centered around Blood Angels or Salamanders, ...
It won’t
open pumice
Custodes is not really a faction
Bruh what
open pumice
Custodes are more of a faction than anything else in the imperium
namely
because they are not part of the imperium
at all
dense mortar
Im three days in here, give me some slack. But i DID just watch an interveiw where he name drops Salamanders and Blood Angels as his favorite factiosn
arctic talon
And if we do get a live action 40k show
It isn’t gona be about marines
That’s really expensive
open pumice
That’s really expensive
It is amazon
open pumice
Marines done poorly are booring
but yeah
were likely going to get an inquisitor series
dense mortar
open pumice
something that is "human" enough to be approachable for non 40k people, but that will allow the writers to go and explore deep into 40k
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^
dense mortar
interview of him basically foreshadowing
arctic talon
An inqusitor is the best choice
Marines are too isolated
Compared to the wider imperium
dense mortar
He strictly states it would be a shame to play a Inquisitor
when so many other characters exist
open pumice
He strictly states it would be a shame to play a Inquisitor
Don't take youtubers opinions for things :)
dense mortar
Its just a play of his interview
dense mortar
not really a youtuber
open pumice
idk
open pumice
i can't think of a better gateway for 40k
dense mortar
he talks about hsi favorite chapter as well
arctic talon
I’d assume he’d be fine with a normal inqusitor
Mostly since Eisenhorn is uhh
Not a great fit for cavil overall tbh
open pumice
They shouldn't do an existing book or story
arctic talon
Just the type of person Eisenhorn is
arctic talon
They shouldn't do an existing book or story
Yeah this
open pumice
or if they do it should be something like the horus heresy
where there is plenty of room to focus on non story characters
open pumice
I will be dissapointed if we get a live action version of caiphas cain
arctic talon
Low hanging fruit
arctic talon
Fair
open pumice
I think a live action/animated HH series could be good if handled correctly
but def not as the first ever mainstream 40k series
arctic talon
he talks about hsi favorite chapter as well
Blood angels/salamanders aren’t his favorite faction they’re his favorite chapter
storm jungle
Im late but like
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Considering his preface
near wasp
Hi witch
storm jungle
KEK
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Better then the comics
near wasp
True they did liquify an entire crowd of people
arctic talon
Off of gas fumes
storm jungle
Garth Ennis is a piece of shit so its true
storm jungle
True they did liquify an entire crowd of people
I mean
also drove through a whale
with a speedboat
and then had a heart to heart inside its guts
arctic talon
Also some other scenes
storm jungle
thats as 40k as it gets
near wasp
also drove through a whale
All i can think of rn is the void whales from the plague wars
arctic talon
I will not elaborate on the hospital scene from the boys
But if you know
You know
near wasp
But i was referring more to after the show ends or finishes. I hope the limelight doesnt soften 40k. But its dumb to think that ik. Just sometimes i think the worst for things i care about because sometimes shit does get ruined.
open pumice
I like this notion that GW will listen to popular demand
GW doesn't listen to the current playerbase lmao
you think if GW cared about what people think, they would have made the fucking despoilers kit resin only
open pumice
I weep
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They do what makes $$$ and doesn’t piss people off too much
open pumice
fuckin
arctic talon
At least we know HH
open pumice
you have to buy 2 of those kits
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Is getting more plastic infantry
open pumice
just to have 1 squad
open pumice
Please assault marines
I have been waiting for a mk VI assault kit for 8 months
I play blood angels, and I weep
mystic geyser
😭
open pumice
it very much felt like
here your goddamn melee models
shut the fuck up
We want to print more anti tank vehicles
arctic talon
They totally feel like a temporary thing
mystic geyser
Managed to make 20 using my bits box and old chaos stuff
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Inb4 we get a full plastic despoiler/assault marine kit
open pumice
oh shit people will actually stop playing the game if we don't give them the models they need
most of the book is FW only, but they want to keep moving tanks over
despite the fact that they don't sell
yeah i'm
gonna wrap up the rest of my 30k blood angels
before getting assault marines
unfortunately it means my army will be unplayable for months :/
arctic talon
despite the fact that they don't sell
Tanks sell based on my LGS’s stock
But it’s 40k players/collectors who buy them
open pumice
But it’s 40k players/collectors who buy them
Not even players
also
your LGS probably just isn't getting mroe tanks in
arctic talon
Nah they restocked them twice now
open pumice
ah
open pumice
then your area is wierd lmao
open pumice
because for us here
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So
open pumice
you very rarely see vehicles lists
arctic talon
So lots of traffic
open pumice
because of jsut
how busted lascannons are
and how awful most vehicles are
why take a land raider, when can isntead take the same slot and take heavy support lascannons for less points
open pumice
Yeah
because drednaugths are cracked
and lascannon teams are cracked
theres a 20% chance your opponent gets turn one
and deletes your landraider from the table
along with 18 tac marines
HH needs a balance pass
big time
but it wont get one
and it will just flounder
big zadge
coarse mirage
I've listened to some of what one of the psyker voices talks about and he sounds like he genuinely talks to the Emperor
And then he goes "What if I'm the dream and not the dreamer!?" and my head implodes
fleet parcel
what is a sanction redactus
mystic geyser
Kill mission
open pumice
I've listened to some of what one of the psyker voices talks about and he sounds...
He does not btw
He is talking to someone or some thing
But its highly unlikely its the emperor
arctic talon
Probably a warp creature pretending to be the emperor lol
versed ledge
What if it's the emperor
The emperor works in mysterious ways, just like the changer of ways
storm jungle
Its unclarified as far as I can tell
a fun one is that hes talking about the Player which is also funny lol
versed ledge
Heh, but what are the odds the psyker will become a daemonhost? At least the variant that's half mad, not the ex-cop one
storm jungle
To become a daemonhost he'd need to openly welcome it and go through a ritual
a random possession is not too likely since almost every psyker cosmetic has a dampening device
versed ledge
Karking hell....if that's the case, shouldn't we be prioritizing those nutjobs rather than some random captain? They have the capacity to destroy a planet
storm jungle
Yeah daemonhosts are a huge deal but its a case of gameplay =/= lore
versed ledge
Fair enough, gameplay makes them just witches from l4d
Lore wise, no doubt they're in the top of the to be redacted list
crisp heath
Daemonhosts are even way more manageable than witches
arctic talon
Lore wise daemonhosts would slaughter us all tbh
open pumice
To become a daemonhost he'd need to openly welcome it and go through a ritual
You dont need to be consentual for a daemon host
It is a ritual, so your not getting random possesions
But its not consentual
storm jungle
You dont need to be consentual for a daemon host
I meant for the easier means of possession
I know its mostly forced in lol
versed ledge
So how come we can't use warp daemons to fight chaos in the name.of the emperor?
Or use daemons to fight the xenos?
open pumice
So how come we can't use warp daemons to fight chaos in the name.of the emperor?
They are unreliable at the beat of times
And downright traitorus at worst
But there are aome impwrial daemons oit there
Like the sanguinor and celestine
open pumice
I meant for the easier means of possession
Sure
open pumice
@versed ledge essentially, your aaking "why doeant the us solve all its problema with nuclear weapons" because even if it did work, the concequences would cause even worse problems
signal bramble
So how come we can't use warp daemons to fight chaos in the name.of the emperor?
Because using daemons is forbidden lore in the imperium.
Doing that would make you look very heretical.
open pumice
Translation: Plot.
I mean i guess, but its fairly well establish daemons dont have their pact holders best intentions in mind
After all the are daemons
Not happy funtime friends
that is, ofcourse, unless they are slaaneshi
in which they are a bit too much of the happy funtime friends
coarse mirage
So how come we can't use warp daemons to fight chaos in the name.of the emperor?
The Saints are kinda daemons
orchid thicket
open pumice
Damn the lex imperialis then
Damning the lex is against the lex, thats a heresy, calling the arbites
dense mortar
I actually think I love The Masque, and want to worship her.
uneven temple
open pumice
I actually think I love The Masque, and want to worship her.
My brother in emperor
dense mortar
My brother in emperor
The Grim Dark is a dark and lonely place. Mans gotta make decisions.
open pumice
The Grim Dark is a dark and lonely place. Mans gotta make decisions.
You belong in a oubliette
orchid thicket
I prefer redheaded hospitalier nuns from the Ecclesiarchy myself
dense mortar
I prefer redheaded hospitalier nuns from the Ecclesiarchy myself
Momma always said I had a bad habit of bringing home bad girls. Granted, this particular one has trapped people in mirror dimensions, destroyed civlizations, and killed an untold number of people through orgiastic frenzies and bloodshed.
But maybe I can change her. Bring her to the light.
orchid thicket
Bros I can fix her...
open marsh
Momma always said I had a bad habit of bringing home bad girls. Granted, this p...
Why change her. She sounds perfect already
crimson kayak
Why change her. She sounds perfect already
literally holds a grudge with Harlequins because she lost a dance-off with a solitaire
storm jungle
Damn the lex imperialis then
near wasp
Momma always said I had a bad habit of bringing home bad girls. Granted, this p...
Look at what this chat did to this man. It turned him into a heretic
open marsh
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1014695948376604723/1081394441501282325...
Oh look. Average cop in the USA
copper patrol
they ain't got no buisness having that much drip
grim thunder
Wait
storm jungle
damn son
celest dome
What could be happening ?
The lion waking up ?
near wasp
Do you guys think gw would add a primarch back to the setting so soon
chilly creek
Sure
"I don't like Guilliman, but am jealous of all those daemon Primarchs. Loyalists need more choice!"
near wasp
Valid i guess
celest dome
Aren't they making the Chaos Primarch more active again ?
ripe ravine
they haven't announced anything but its pretty likely that the Lion is coming back
the main aligned chaos legions at least are getting more active. Mortarion (nurgle), Angron (khorne), Fulgrim (slaanesh), and Magnus (tzeentch)
isn't so crazy to think they will eventually bring back 4 loyalist primarchs
near wasp
Mortarion is basically back out of the setting at this point
ripe ravine
mortarion has a pretty dope tabletop model so don't count him out just yet
near wasp
Hes in nurgle manor being punished for letting the gsrden burn. Hes in moth time out
near wasp
Eventually yeah but not anytime soon
dense mortar
This is Eldrad Ulthran? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMLG54WrXQo
ripe ravine
Is... Isn't that a far sight battlesuit?
yeah new farsight model revealed today. the symbol is probably a talisman of arthas moloch
bears a striking resemblance to the dark angels rune of hexagrammaton
dense mortar
I got a feeling, deep down in my Gold Throne room if ya catch my drift, that Henry Cavill is gonna carry Warhammer to the next level of pop culture
storm jungle
That would take a lot.
Warhammer has been an unknown fandom to the larger populace for like 30 years.
And still kind of is.
arctic talon
^
signal bramble
Aren't they making the Chaos Primarch more active again ?
We already know the emperors children are getting a codex in 10th edition so Fulgrim will be back sooner or later.
dense mortar
Warhammer has been an unknown fandom to the larger populace for like 30 years.
Same can be said for Witcher. he managed to do it. The guy is gold right now.
and most importantly, he KNOWS and RESPECTS the source material
takes it very serious
dense mortar
Popular with gamers
sure
not with people like my daughter, who ended up loving it
Strictly bc that hansome son of a bitch was in it
storm jungle
Eh again no.
Even before Cavill came in people knew of the Witcher
even by little
40k in comparison is almost non-existant due to it being mostly a tabletop game and an old IP.
That and its a very niche market.
dense mortar
Point being, he can bring it into the mainstream. Consider this. His face on it, an actual GOOD show, and billions in Amazon branding
That niche market goes out the window
celest dome
The Witcher's saga is more known in literature than the Black Library
arctic talon
^
dense mortar
Well I am not denying that one IP is more known than the other. My take is that star power and unlimited marketing dollars can take something unknown and make it very known.
dense mortar
<<<
storm jungle
Even with the new Dune movie people were overwhelmed by the lore and scale of the universe.
40k is like 10x that and your average stream/moviegoer will literally understand nothing.
dense mortar
Im going to counter real quick. Your not wrong, but HBO made some mistakes. Amazon has proven that they can take heavy lore IP and make it palatable for average viewers; Wheel of Time is my example.
The niche fans may not have LOVED it, but anyone outside of the die hards thought it was pretty darn good.
I am a big robert jordan fan, and quite enjoyed it
outer wave
Guys so we have confirmed that Beasts of Nurgle likely dont mate, but what about Great Unclean Ones? They keep saying they're fathers so could there be a gay couple in Nurgle's Realm????
celest dome
There are going to be people who are going to be introduced and become fan for the Ip, but most people will only have cursory knowledge for it
It's not going to become a Marvel or DC household name
The Witcher will be a bit more famous, but not that much
outer wave
I do think Henry Cavill will have some push towards 40k being more well known, though it also depends on how well the show is recieved
dense mortar
Superman was a really bad movie on paper, but people still takl about it like its great solely because of him
copper patrol
I am pretty sure a lot of people have heard blood for the blood god
dense mortar
I think he can do it
outer wave
I am pretty sure a lot of people have heard blood for the blood god
That and WAUGH
copper patrol
or have heard of space marines
etc
many people are aware of 40k
I think is a good way to put it
but no where near as many are into it
dense mortar
This is most peoples idea of space marines
atleast is was for me before I descended into this cacophony of misery and darkness.
celest dome
That and WAUGH
Waaagh
storm jungle
People also know orks from british people
outer wave
Waugh.....
storm jungle
celest dome
And the warhammer Ip is a bit much, so while some people know about it, it's also from a further standpoint
copper patrol
it's fantasy in space
dense mortar
but 40k was never my first thought
storm jungle
40k is fantasy disguised as sci-fi
storm jungle
DnD has a lot
copper patrol
warhammer fantasy
dense mortar
no i mean DND like
storm jungle
GW started out selling DnD stuff
dense mortar
thats what I always thought it was
storm jungle
They arent
celest dome
Dungeon Quest was the 1st part of Warhammer Fantasy iirc
storm jungle
in the past they were but the settings were a lot more goofier then
after the End Times they decided to sever the connection
since it makes no sense and undersells the settings
dense mortar
Nurgles are a playable race in the game
storm jungle
Yes the chaos gods/demons are shared but thats it
thats mostly also due to being able to play both armies in the settings, makes it easier for any chaos players
dense mortar
they must have the ability to leap between realities
near wasp
The daemons although close to there 40k conterparts are different
signal bramble
thats mostly also due to being able to play both armies in the settings, makes i...
You can play most of the daemons in both settings.
There are a few exceptions.
storm jungle
Same minis same thing YEET
signal bramble
But there are a few daemons exclusive to 40k and a few to AoS.
storm jungle
Im not gonna be specific and single out like 3-4 special daemon minis whos names i cant remember
near wasp
near wasp
That name gave me a stroke
storm jungle
same
outer wave
Oh I do love the story of Syll'Esske
signal bramble
Syll can be played in both.
storm jungle
They are couple goals
outer wave
Its very cute for a daemon/human couple
celest dome
`Syll'esske`
Aren't they available in 40k now ?
celest dome
Syll would be great in Total War Warhammer, Slaanesh getting the AoS stuff would be good for it
And they aren't in Fantasy, just AoS
storm jungle
Only way to know for sure
celest dome
At least yet
storm jungle
time to open the store
near wasp
i dont follow chaos minis
That suprises me given what youve said about the god emperor
storm jungle
Yep him and her are in here
near wasp
storm jungle
That suprises me given what youve said about the god emperor
I only hate the Emperor when people think hes a good person
near wasp
There are no good people in 40k
dense mortar
I wonder if the emperor is sitting on the throne, unable to communicate, like "Did these people seriously turn me into a God?"
signal bramble
Aren't they available in 40k now ?
They are.
The daemons of Slaanesh in AoS that you can’t use in 40k are Synessa and Dexcessa.
outer wave
I only hate the Emperor when people think hes a good person <:KEK:98489944245497...
"But erm... The Emperah brought humanity up to what we see in 30k and 40k and thats based????"
near wasp
I mean hes talked a few times. Notibly with a sister of battle and guilliman. But his talks whoch each arnt detailed but his talk with gilliman was. Lets just say it wasnt a heartfelt convo
storm jungle
I dread the next person whos going to defend these point while having a black templar pfp
those guys are always healthy individuals (:
outer wave
I want them to come in so I can laugh at them
dense mortar
Trying to find hope and happiness in this universe is like a dream I had when I first started working at a grocery store. I had this restless dream that seem to go on forever. It was scary persay. . . but relentless unforgiving. I was bagging groceries, and all I had to do was get to the end of the groceries and I could go home and relax. . . but the conveyer belt had an infinite amount of groceries that slowly made there way down to me. All unlike items as well, so couldnt box and pack at a respectable pace.
near wasp
storm jungle
Basically best way to approach 40k (unless you read the books) is as a morbid comedy
I just got done reading a kill-team page where a dark eldar severs the achilles tendons of a chaos cultist he caught and has to return to the mission while he was previously flaying him so he can find him later on once the job is done
Its pretty silly
near wasp
Bruh said "im saving you for later"
outer wave
Kabalite Gunners be like when they shoot at someone and the camera zooms in on the victim's face: 👁️ 👄 👁️
near wasp
So guys its me ya boy ghostscreecher554 and were back on a filthy mon kiegh world purging it of the taint from she who thirsts.
outer wave
Anyway back to my original question: Can Great Unclean Ones ma--
versed ledge
So if Tau have instant noodles for rations, how come the imperium can't have that
near wasp
Because people are a better food scource apperently, and grimdark. Also its filthy xenos food the humans dont trust it
outer wave
I mean, dont the Guard get desperate for food? Couldnt they try eating some Tau or Tau rations?
near wasp
grim thunder
Is... Isn't that a far sight battlesuit?
yes, with a new icon on it
hexed burrow
I like the wings
signal bramble
I mean, dont the Guard get desperate for food? Couldnt they try eating some Tau ...
Not necessarily. It depends on the situation.
Not every warzone is a desperate situation where their supply lines are cut and they’re surrounded on all sides.
outer wave
Of course not but sometimes there are
I know that its been reported that guards have eaten Ork meat
Which is apparently very tough
signal bramble
I’m sure they’ll try rations from Tau they kill or plunder it somehow.
Far as we know the Tau diet isn’t that different from a person. They’re omnivores, drink water, etc.
outer wave
I wonder how they taste though
chilly creek
Better than human rations. After all, Tau are brought up on a diet of the greater good 😛
coarse mirage
I dont get why people think commisars are so cool
near wasp
Have you heard of yarrick?
celest dome
And Cain ? Or what ever he is called
near wasp
Also they keep morale up
gloomy citrus
Also they keep morale up
Via friendly fire.
near wasp
If they flee they are a traitor and traitors deserve death
Its no longer friendly fire at that point
gloomy citrus
One commissar attached to the Kriegsmen got shot because he stayed behind.
near wasp
That shits funny af.
dense mortar
I said this yesterday, but I am re-reading it and I just need to take a moment and ask. . . Kharn really be punching and headbutting Daemons? With a smile?
gloomy citrus
He did beat the shit out of Erebus, likely with a smile too.
near wasp
The only way world eaters can be happy is fighting
gloomy citrus
The only way world eaters can be happy is fighting
Thanks to the nails and Khorne's influence.
dense mortar
Someoen primarch this man
gloomy citrus
Primarchs are like the Kriegsmen: test tube babies.
dense mortar
Next your gonna tell me that Daemonettes seduce men to ensnare them in an eternity of torture
gloomy citrus
Next your gonna tell me that Daemonettes seduce men to ensnare them in an eterni...
The Slaaneshi ones do.
I don't know about the other Gods daemonettes.
If they have ones.
dense mortar
The Slaaneshi ones do.
How does that bode for me? I pledged my loyalty and my ❤️ to The Masque at about 3pm todayt.
near wasp
Daemonettes are specifically slaaneshi
near wasp
How does that bode for me? I pledged my loyalty and my ❤️ to The Masque at abo...
Good luck with the depravity
gloomy citrus
You'll make the Drukhari look nice in comparison.
dense mortar
You'll make the Drukhari look nice in comparison.
aka the Cenobites?
gloomy citrus
Who?
near wasp
Same thing really
gloomy citrus
If Slaanesh wasn't a Chaos God, and just an Eldar God, the Drukhari would likely worship her.
uneven temple
People usually forget slaanesh isn't really the sex god but the sensory overload/ ultimate debauchery god, and a ton of that has jack shit to do with sex
Also yes, you right
uneven temple
Ofc ofc we're just enlightening the poor cultist in our midst
Not that it's gonna help
Too late for him 
near wasp
He wont be able to learn much when the inquistors show up
Well either hell become a daemonhost or hell get inquistor'd
dense mortar
Spend a life time wrapped in orgiastic misery or spend every day anxious awaiting some horror of battle to consume me
I know where I am going. Sorry boys.
gloomy citrus
Well either hell become a daemonhost or hell get inquistor'd
It's better to get a bolt to the skull rather then get molested for the rest of eternity by an entity of Hell.
gloomy citrus
In 5 short days slaanesh claimed his soul
Whose soul? Fulgrim's?
near wasp
No @dense mortar 
uneven temple
Like the cenobites kinda screwed that one dude over in the latest film, basically maxed out his pain receptors
dense mortar
In 5 short days slaanesh claimed his soul
Well once you guys completely removed compassion and the hope of soem sort of light at the end of the tunnel, what choice did I have.
near wasp
Well once you guys completely removed compassion and the hope of soem sort of li...
You were supposed to accept your fate and serve!
dense mortar
Like the cenobites kinda screwed that one dude over in the latest film, basicall...
As a cenobite fan, I think they did the reboot pretty well.
gloomy citrus
Well once you guys completely removed compassion and the hope of soem sort of li...
Chaos is the problem.
And the Tyranids.
Chaos is the reason why the galaxy sucks.
near wasp
Necrons for life
gloomy citrus
It's the reason for the Horus Heresy.
gloomy citrus
Necrons for life
Souless cyborgs.
near wasp
They still have more emotion than half the chaos crew
gloomy citrus
Khorne: Anger, Fury, Hatred.
Tzeentch: Curiosity.
Nurgle: Happiness, Disgust.
Slaanesh: Do I need to explain?
near wasp
I know that exists in lore but in practice that doesnt always work out with the writers
Im kinda just messing around now since im bored at work
near wasp
hey tzeench can i get some help
ya sure its just gonna cost you a can of paint, a jar of toenails, 2 fish swim bladders and a grox eye
open pumice
hey tzeench can i get some help
ya sure its just gonna cost you a can of paint,...
Can i get that on a 9 year payment plan
near wasp
no, payment upfront
open pumice
Damn
near wasp
tough timber
Oi, 'eard a Spark'ead talkin' bout how our lads use Daemon Weapons. First: wot In-quiz-itters use Daemon Weapons, and Second: Ya fink we'll get Daemon Weapons later?
near wasp
as a fellow spark head. a shifty inquisitor might use one and i doubt it boss. daemon weapons would damn our souls for we dont have what my beloved calls "plot armor" what ever that means
signal bramble
Oi, 'eard a Spark'ead talkin' bout how our lads use Daemon Weapons. First: wot I...
The inquisition is split in to multiple factions but they generally fall under the label of "Puritan" or "Radical." The former are the kind that want to kill all the heretics, banish daemons, and destroy heresy while also treating any psykers or xenos as enemies. Radical Inquisitors on the other hand will use chaos artifacts, bind daemons to their service, and will use xeno tech or even have them as part of their retinue.
tough timber
So if Spark'ead is right, Grendyl's a Radical
signal bramble
We aren't sure exactly what kind of Inquisitor we're dealing with however but giving daemon weapons to random plebs like us would be a bad idea. They only entrust those chaos artifacts to those they believe can actually be trusted not to get corrupted by them. Becoming corrupted is the biggest risk because a daemon taking over a mortal host can inflict untold horrors upon the world.
tough timber
Right. So if we's be real big good uns and kill a lotta heretics, we get daemon weapons so can kill more heretics better
So far as can tell, the Shouty who yells bout Blood n Skulls is prolly out. Same wit Sparky wot screech "worship me or die"
But am think Pals is prolly solid, can hit heretics hard, can handle the goo good, and luv emprah.
vale shuttle
I think Grendyl is a radical. The evidence we have is that he has us capture grimoires.
But that's the only evidence I have.
Still I want to use daemon weapons so let me hope
crisp heath
The only people a decent inquisitor would give daemon weapons to would be someone on a sisters of battle or grey knight level of purity and dedication
Hell, one of the grey knight champions actually has a daemonic sword and he can just barely control it
Logan Grimnar also has a khornate axe that he uses without any issue, but he's... uh... you know... he can control it because he's... an alcoholic?
vale shuttle
Alcohol famously doesn't lead to people doing stupid and hotheaded things
tough timber
maybe he be depressive alcoholic.
vale shuttle
Depression famously doesn't make you want to give up and let it all go
(I should know I have major depressive disorder)
tough timber
well am think maybe depressive in comparison to Wolves usual demeanour.
vale shuttle
Lmao a depressed space wolf
"Brother are you well? You only drank three barrels of mjod today!"
tough timber
"ach not even the blood of the xenos can improve my mood this day."
vale shuttle
"Brother you need to get outside to cure your mood. Go and slaughter a few hundred chaos cultists that'll cheer you up"
tough timber
"perhaps. perhaps..." picks up Khornate Axe "hmm, perhaps it just might. I feel better thinking about the slaughter already!"
vale shuttle
Space Wolves prove that daemon weapons are a viable solution to mental illness
tough timber
High Anxiety Marine "here brother, take this Plague Scythe"
sneezes "you know, maybe there's nothing to worry about"
vale shuttle
maybe the reason why Space Marines convert to Chaos is because they refuse to go to therapy
and Chaplains don't count as therapists considering their advice is always: "have you tried murdering someone to get over it?"
tough timber
"your humours are out of order, Adeptus"
Even Space Fascism can't get over its disdain of taking care of your mental health.
vale shuttle
space fascism 100% makess it worse cause it's like
versed ledge
Does the guard even have therapists?
tough timber
"Revile the Weak"
vale shuttle
"i am a big strong manly space marine man nothing can hurt me"
and then they get traumatised or PTSD or w/ever which ruins their fucking life but they're never gonna talk about it because of afforementioned "Revile the weak"
tough timber
ya know the old Winnie the Pooh meme about each character being a mental illness archetype?
vale shuttle
Does the guard even have therapists?
i don't think they have therapists. i know there's like a pleasure world some guardsmen are sent to for therapy
this world also has a very high production of combat servitors
tough timber
that's the Chaos Gods in Warhammer, and they're hitting the fascists where they're weakest.
vale shuttle
for some reason
tough timber
in the feels.
vale shuttle
when you're fighting an enemy that preys on emotional instability, maybe setting up a society that absolutely scorns emotional vulnerability is a bad idea
tough timber
and heaven forbid you try to make alliances with other cultures to spread awareness of mental health-er chaos corruption.
vale shuttle
lmao
if the Imperium wasn't a racist nightmare-state then they could perhaps learn from craftworld eldar who have been forced to be emotionally stable to combat slaaneshi corruption
or like, any of the various human civilizations / alien civilizatoins they wiped out during the great crusade
or even the tau in a pinch
tough timber
the Tau are out here like "everyone is just having communication problems" and the Imperium is like "I will slaughter your entire civilization filthy Xenos" "oh those silly Imperials"
vale shuttle
on a long enough timescale im fairly certain the tau would be able to weaken chaos significantly
but that'd require the imperium to stop making people go "zamn i need to worship chaos because of this 19 terrabyte list of reasons i believe i should do it"
tough timber
Aye, pretty much the only "good outcome" would be for the Tau to broker some kind of deal between the Imperium and the Eldar through long term influence. But hah.
vale shuttle
unfortunately for the entire galaxy the imperium is filled to the brim with racist, ignorant, stubborn, frothing, angry madmen
idk if the tau could negotiate with that on a long timescale
tough timber
Imperium could moderate the naivety of the Tau in regards to shit like Chaos, the Tyranids, and the Orks. Cuz sometimes you can't talk it out.
But yeah, getting over the Xenocidal shit is, er, a lil unfeasible.
vale shuttle
that's true, there are existential threats, but the tau are beginning to understand that
iirc they've stopped trying to negotiate with orks and they recently fought off a death guard invasion
tough timber
ah good for them.
vale shuttle
they've had their teeth cut on the nightmares of the galaxy
they're still standing, they're still growing. they're in a dangerouis position but like
who isn't? lmao
tough timber
ayep
like in the current setup the Imperium is partly a stabilizing force mitigating Tyranids, Orks, and Chaos but fucking over potential improvement of the strategic situation by being aggro against Tau and Eldar.
and thusly stretching itself too thin
vale shuttle
yea
it's an unenviable position. chaos is definitely more focused on the imperium due to ideaological / cultural reasons, and the imperium definitely tanks more ork and tyranid assaults than the tau or any other regional power
tough timber
from sheer size
vale shuttle
yep
but the imperium is also a threat to all thje other factions due to its uuuhhhhh
gestures at everything
if the imperium collapsed or disintegrated i'm like, fairly sure the regional powers would be in a better place
tough timber
for the short term perhaps
vale shuttle
naaah i disagree
if the imperium collapsed trhe tau would basically be in the situation the imperiujm was after the long night
the galaxy is fractured, the bones of a dead empire are ready to be settled in, whoever can get the war engine running fastest can gain primacy
tough timber
I think the most feasible start to improving the situation might be Tau and Eldar alliance, maybe? I don't know enough to say if that's any more feasible than anything else.
vale shuttle
the tau would probably win and become the next big superpower, probably alongside the necrons. this would lead to a galaxy more able to deal with the tyranids, orks
and uh chaos too
tough timber
Oh I agree but a shattered Imperium would also be the breeding ground for all sorts of fuckery
vale shuttle
true that
if the imperium disintegrated into a bunch of petty kingdoms you can guarantee that a lot of them would keep their fascist tendancies
tough timber
Genestealers would be a menace, and Chaos Worlds would be set up so damn quick
vale shuttle
you can guarantee a lot of them would become military juntas lead by space marines
and yeah we can guarantee chaos worlds cropping up like weeds
tough timber
ayep.
Tau: "ah, the Imperium has fallen, perhaps now is the time to unite the-"
"oh what in the everloving fuck"
just a tidal wave of Chaos and Tyranid expansion
vale shuttle
the good thing about chaos and tyranids is that chaos is extremely fractured and fights with itself more than anyone else and that tyranid / genestealer cults could probably be more easily contained by the tau
i have to imagine the tau offer a far more robust healthcare system than the imperium which would probably be able to catch genestealers more effectively than the imperium's uuuhh
tough timber
entirely possible but alternatively the Tau might have entirely the wrong initial strategy
vale shuttle
distinct lack of caring about lmao
totally true!
but i think the tau would be able to adapt, whereas the imperium refuses to change even a little tiny bit
tough timber
"ah new potential friends!" hiss- "yesssss"
vale shuttle
lmao
tough timber
Genestealer Cults join the Tau and just immediately gain so much genetic material
"why didn't we do this sooner, these fools don't even know"
vale shuttle
genestealer cults are very dangerous, but i think that they'd struggle more in tau spaces
cause like, genestealer cults are often worker revolts or gangs or other insurgent forces
tough timber
once the danger is understood for sure
vale shuttle
yeah
the tau actually give a shit about quality of life, so they'd probably be able to prevent the kinds of groups the genestealer cults tend to prey on
unlike the imperium who are all like "suffering builds character"
tough timber
for sure, but the Tyranids are also very adaptable, and would likely be able to try the "diplomatic" route
tough timber
that is, infiltration
vale shuttle
i thought of the best idea for a genestealer cult army
scientology genestealer cult
tough timber
"yessss, we are definitely just a fellow peace-loving species who wish nothing but mutual support and understanding, very intimate understanding"
tough timber
"perhaps we might share colonists"
vale shuttle
lmao like that one time the tau did a cultural exchange with the dark eldar
one hopes they'd be sensible enough not to fall for the same trick twice
tough timber
"what could possibly go wrong"
words uttered precisely 15 minutes before catastrophic shit went wrong
vale shuttle
"what could possibly go wrong" is practically 40k's tagline
tough timber
imagine being a Gue'vesa and seeing a Genestealer Cultist as the newest ambassador at the meeting
vale shuttle
the good news is that even tau humans probs dont know that much about genestealer cults
the bad news is that that's perfect for genestealer cults in general :|
tough timber
the one Gue'vesa who knows anything about Genestealers at the Tau Celebration of the latest addition to the Empire
vale shuttle
andrew tate 🤢
tough timber
ayep lmao
but a perfect wojak face
like that face almost perfectly encapsulates the feeling I imagine a Human Trafficker Crime Lord Influencer would have when everything comes crashing down
vale shuttle
he's also so ugly in that picture lmao
tough timber
exactly
vale shuttle
like just, no thanks, what an unattrative man
vale shuttle
i can see it
it's the beard that does it
shaving the beard wouldn't make him look better but it would make him look less like a mole rat
tough timber
would prolly add more twink energy.
and tbh he also has the energy of a mole rat queen
if one could derive ethics from the behaviour of a Mole Rat Queen it would manifest like Tate lmao
vale shuttle
would prolly add more twink energy.
that's because of his weak chin which is like
it's fine to have a weak chin, but he definitely doesn't think it's fine because it's not like
a manly manly man man thing to have
tough timber
aye, it's always the fuckers who push toxic masculinity or racial supremacy that are just the most disgusting and pathetic examples of it.
like fuckin' beardless Gavin McInnes
dude looks like a Worms character
vale shuttle
yeeaaahhhh it's kind of uncanny
tough timber
tough timber
definitely looks like the kind of pedo who'd talk about the fertility of girls
vale shuttle
lmao yeah
it's kinda sad, like they're definitely compensating for a low self-esteem
but also they're hateful little ratfuck bastards so fuck 'em
tough timber
back to less disgusting entities, Genestealers infiltrating the Tau would have a fucking smorgasbord
vale shuttle
genestealers dont really use the genetics they take though, they just kind offff
integrate into the society.
tough timber
looking at the list of Tau species and it's like 3 Majors and like 2 dozen Minors.
vale shuttle
if the tyranids got into a tau core-world we'd have a problem
but genestealers themselves don't really adapt the genetic traits of their victims in the same way tyranids do
tough timber
well yeah, but you know if they had that kind of access the Tyranids would be incoming real fast
vale shuttle
i think that the tyranids can arrive centuries after a genestealer cult rises up
which while not a super long timescale wrt 40k which has about 10k years of history, it is fairly long for the tau
i think there's a decent chance the tau could nip it in the bud
unfortunately it would mean the tau would probably still have to fight a tyranid fleet but
i mean they're going to need to do it eventually anyway
tough timber
aye but I think the possibility of Genestealers being able to be open about their existence would be a key difference
without the stigma of the Imperium they could probably ramp up their overall goals
orchid thicket
From a meta perspective it wouldn't mean much for genstealers to get into a Tau core world I think
Considering that GW likes to throw Chaos daemons at Terra itself because they don't know how else to raise the stakes
vale shuttle
this is absolutely true
orchid thicket
It's insulting that the Solar System, which is arguably the most fortified star system in the galaxy, just gets infiltrated by Chaos over and over again
vale shuttle
but the 40k timeline moves so erratically and unpredictably that speculating on what's likely to happen next feels
kind of pointless
vale shuttle
now for my essay on why we should have a 40k end times to really shake up the whole affair, and then get booed out of the room for it lmao
orchid thicket
but the 40k timeline moves so erratically and unpredictably that speculating on ...
I think there's one constant thing throughout the timeline in the last 10,000 years
It's that all the factions are set up to gain a power level or two
tough timber
Emperor's Box of Troubles gets brought out and opened, inside is a lil holo recording. "Well fuck, good luck."
orchid thicket
with Chaos getting stronger, the Imperium getting its primarchs back, the Eldar with Ynnead, Necrons waking up, Tyranid main hive fleets approaching, etc.
I don't know about Ynnead though, I heard he was a no-show
and once again Chaos is the favored son of GW for some reason
tough timber
Chaos looks cool I spose.
vale shuttle
ynnari are basically fucked
GW wrote them into a corner and i think they've shelved the entire thing
ynnead cant be born unless the next crone sword is gotten and it's in slaanesh's palace so the ynnari are left spinning wheels
since obviously that's an impossible ask.
tough timber
"If there's something lost, and ya need it bad, who you gonna call?"
"Thief Trazyn!"
orchid thicket
GW wrote them into a corner and i think they've shelved the entire thing
That's so unfortunate
vale shuttle
the necrons are definitely not going to help the eldar lmao
orchid thicket
Who's in charge of this stuff anyway?
vale shuttle
idk whose in charge, this is just what i've heard / observed
the eldar are generally one of the more poorly-treated factions
ynnari really drew the shortest straw however, i can't think of any other faction that has like
a big goal that's literally unworkable
orchid thicket
Well, there's rousing the Emperor from the Golden Throne
actually isn't the Golden Throne slowly failing? Much like my computer monitor of 10+ years
vale shuttle
nah even the emperor getting up is more likely than the ynnari getting the cronesword
if the emperor dies there's a chance he gets up. if he 'ascends' to godhood via worship he gets up. if the golden throne is repaired maybe he gets up.
also yeah the golden throne has been slowly failing since forever.
vale shuttle
no but i have read the spoilers of it cause i knew i was never ever ever gonna read it
orchid thicket
oh lol
vale shuttle
i dont read enough as is!!! im not starting a 900 book series!!!
orchid thicket
Well it's great. I feel the urge to help the Emperor and save Horus even if it costs me my life
orchid thicket
Hmm maybe
Also funny and tiny little lore tidbit
There's a certain adventurer party that's trying to get into the Imperial Palace
and they have a proto-Astartes with them
vale shuttle
thunder warrior??
orchid thicket
Nope, prototype for the space marine legionary
His geneseed is unique, its from before the Primarch bloodstock was split up
He has a "Union M66 Autobolter" chambered for 0.75 bolts
tough timber
Union Strong, can't go wrong.
orchid thicket
which is obviously from before Legiones Astartes standard issue boltguns
and I just find it funny that that's the last sci-fi sounding weapon in the franchise
After that it's all "Godwyn-pattern" or "Phobos-pattern"
orchid thicket
Nope, prototype for the space marine legionary
He's ||the Emperor's wife's/mistress'/scientific partner's personal bodyguard||
tough timber
Sounds like good lad.
orchid thicket
Personality-wise, he's flatter than the ||Alpha Legionnaire|| who tags along with them but perhaps that's intentional
tough timber
Needs more Ogryn. Like Gav Daemonslayer.
orchid thicket
Oh yeah I haven't seen even a single Ogryn throughout the Siege
tough timber
y'see, thas why all is gone to gruttin' hel. Not nuff Ogryn bein' allowed to do what Ogryn do best.
Be best lads and smash bads.
open pumice
actually isn't the Golden Throne slowly failing? Much like my computer monitor o...
sort of
It is
but it's one of those background plot points that will never be expanded upon
Much like the emperor will never get off the golden throne
or ynnead will never be born
Or the great waaaaagh will never form
those are
end times level, setting ending events
orchid thicket
Or rather
Setting upgrading events
Everyone gets a tech level so everyone is still equal anyway
open pumice
No those are
the end of 40k
theres tone shifts and status quo shifts
and then theres
doing a 180 and completely leaving the identity of a setting behind
any one of those does the latter
or gets written poorly and is ulktimately disapointing
"the ynnari find the last crone sword and make ynnead, but because we can't just kill off 1/4th of the already laughably small chaos codex, not to mention EC marines, dakr elves, etc, he sits around and does nothing ever for some dumb ass contrived reason"
"The great waaagh finally happens, but we can't justify killing off atleast half of the setting, and most of the major characters, so like, they don't actually accomplish anything, and its all a great bust"
orchid thicket
Honestly it would be the perfect excuse to release more models
If the Imperium gets its primarchs back, the Necrons wake up more, and the tips of the Tyranid main hive fleets start pouring into the galaxy, no-one would have the military advantage since everyone is just flat-out more powerful
odd palm
I’d prefer if the Primarchs didn’t slowly force their way back into the setting, the loyalists ones that is.
I’m concerned the line between 30k and 40k will start to blur
open pumice
Honestly it would be the perfect excuse to release more models
More models isn't always better
open pumice
If the Imperium gets its primarchs back, the Necrons wake up more, and the tips ...
OK but like
why
"Everyone is more powerful now, so absolutely nothing has changed!"